Tesla: The Next Peloton | Bankruptcy Coming. — Transcript
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- 0:00is Tesla the next Peloton let's talk
- 0:03about that in this video and we're going
- 0:05to make comparisons not only between the
- 0:07cash flows of the two companies the
- 0:09income of the two companies but we'll
- 0:11also be analyzing lead times what news
- 0:13did we hear about Tesla today that we
- 0:16need to address and
- 0:18what about Congress what did they have
- 0:20to do with all of this especially on an
- 0:23election day well let's analyze if Tesla
- 0:26is the next Peloton stock set to lose 80
- 0:30percent of its value in just a one-year
- 0:33time frame and boy oh boy if you look at
- 0:37Peloton stock it's not a roller coaster
- 0:39you would have wanted to ride down you
- 0:41would have started at an IPO level of
- 0:43somewhere around
- 0:4532.26 to 32 you would have ridden the
- 0:48wave up to 171 and dropped all the way
- 0:51down to sub ten dollars again now that
- 0:55is a roller coaster but it's one that
- 0:57some say is coming for Tesla and that
- 1:00this run that we've had for Tesla is now
- 1:03not only in a downtrend but it's just
- 1:05the beginning of the downtrend
- 1:08let's analyze the differences between
- 1:10Peloton and Tesla in this video right
- 1:12after I mention that thank you for being
- 1:15here I really appreciate you okay so the
- 1:18Peloton disaster we remember that I've
- 1:22made multiple videos about Peloton back
- 1:24when it was around 113 dollars per share
- 1:27talking about why I was changing my mind
- 1:29and selling my Peloton stock
- 1:32unfortunately I didn't sell it at the
- 1:34top at 171 but I did sell right around
- 1:36113. and the reasons that led up to me
- 1:39selling Peloton stock were massive
- 1:42inflections in the fundamentals of the
- 1:45business first we saw that Google search
- 1:48Trends were dropping off a cliff for
- 1:50Peloton bikes in addition to that
- 1:52alexa.com reviews showed that the
- 1:55website analytics for Peloton were
- 1:57starting to suffer we noticed that page
- 2:00hits and average time on website were
- 2:02both declining substantially more than
- 2:04they previously had suggesting that
- 2:06consumers were changing their tastes and
- 2:09preferences maybe not being so
- 2:11interested in exercise bikes that are
- 2:14useful for when you're stuck at home and
- 2:16under under lockdown or quarantine
- 2:19so we noticed this at the same time as
- 2:22all of a sudden peloton's lead times for
- 2:25their bikes dropping from about 6 to 12
- 2:28weeks all the way to one to two weeks
- 2:31which is almost just your basic shipping
- 2:34time
- 2:34in addition to that Peloton slashed the
- 2:37price of the Peloton bike from over
- 2:39twenty five hundred dollars to the lower
- 2:412000s and eventually under two thousand
- 2:43today they have so many of these bikes
- 2:46in inventory which inventory is the
- 2:48worst thing to have because what happens
- 2:49is inventory needs to be maintained you
- 2:52ended up having rustgate and the
- 2:54disasters that Afflicted Peloton
- 2:55regarding rustgate of Peloton bikes
- 2:57starting to rust they had not only a
- 2:59death involving their new treadmill
- 3:01which led to the freezing of sales of
- 3:04their treadmill which is also not very
- 3:05good for the company overall but the
- 3:07there were a lot of things that
- 3:09suggested uh oh we've got some
- 3:11problematic headwinds ahead of us and
- 3:14sure enough Peloton did and the stock
- 3:16plummeted from 113 dollars down to under
- 3:1910 dollars
- 3:20so
- 3:22what is similar between Peloton and
- 3:25Tesla and then let's compare what's
- 3:29different and the different part is
- 3:31going to be very very important because
- 3:32right now Tesla is trading for 194
- 3:35dollars at the time of this recording
- 3:36and I hate to say it their vehicles are
- 3:39just becoming more available now while
- 3:43it's nice that people might not have to
- 3:44wait as long for a Tesla the biggest
- 3:47concern that individuals have is not
- 3:49that they won't get their Tesla soon
- 3:51enough if they want to order a Tesla but
- 3:53rather that going into a recessionary
- 3:55environment or likely being in a
- 3:57recessionary environment already and and
- 3:59that environment being very uncertain in
- 4:01terms of how long it'll last could
- 4:03ultimately lead to
- 4:05well less people buying Teslas and when
- 4:08demand goes down obviously lead times
- 4:10are going to go down like Peloton now
- 4:12there is another reason lead times could
- 4:14be going down but let's take a look at
- 4:16what we can analyze regarding demand
- 4:18first we notice that the model y
- 4:20performance has a November potential
- 4:23estimated delivery date we can see that
- 4:24right here the long range has a December
- 4:27estimated delivery date that essentially
- 4:30means if you wanted to get a model y you
- 4:31could get it within the next month the
- 4:34model X has a little bit more extended
- 4:36lead times if you want the regular model
- 4:39X all going all the way out to March
- 4:41before these become available that's
- 4:43about five months but that's where the
- 4:45lead times end all of the other lead
- 4:47types for the model X plaid all of the
- 4:50Model S's available and the model 3s
- 4:53available all have lead times that
- 4:55include potential delivery in November
- 4:58which means they're essentially
- 4:59immediately available and If there are
- 5:03Teslas that are immediately available we
- 5:04would expect there would be some kind of
- 5:06existing inventory under existing
- 5:08inventory in this tab which there didn't
- 5:10used to be an existing inventory this
- 5:12used to be zero a few weeks ago there
- 5:14were six cars available within 200 miles
- 5:17of my ZIP code now unfortunately when I
- 5:20click on model threes there are over 20
- 5:24model threes available within 200 miles
- 5:27of my ZIP code not only that though if I
- 5:31type in
- 5:3233324 which is a South Florida ZIP code
- 5:34I also get vehicles available about six
- 5:37if I go to let's go to Chicago we throw
- 5:41in a Chicago zip code what do we get we
- 5:43also get about seven Vehicles available
- 5:45so we're starting to see more
- 5:48availability of vehicles
- 5:50on Tesla's website and Lead times for
- 5:54new vehicles that aren't just hanging
- 5:56out are also coming down substantially
- 5:59and this is leading a lot of people to
- 6:01say that's it Tesla's the next Peloton
- 6:04he's going down
- 6:05but what's different between the two
- 6:07companies and that's really important
- 6:10and we're going to talk about that
- 6:11difference right now talk about
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- 8:25what's different between Peloton and
- 8:28Tesla look at this Peloton was losing in
- 8:31the quarter ending September 30th 2021
- 8:35four million dollars per day
- 8:38and in the quarter ending September 30th
- 8:40this year they're still losing four
- 8:43million dollars per day from operations
- 8:46they can't figure out how to make money
- 8:49on top of that they've had a CEO
- 8:51transition and they're totally clueless
- 8:54in terms of how to manage their cash
- 8:57because they have so much inventory that
- 9:00they're burning their inventory almost
- 9:03at an opera well they are an operating
- 9:05loss just to try to figure out how to
- 9:09keep the Pelton system spinning
- 9:12this is really different from Tesla
- 9:14instead of losing four million dollars
- 9:16per day Tesla's cash provided in Q2
- 9:20which is when Shanghai their most
- 9:22productive Factory was shut down was
- 9:24about 25 million dollars per day and in
- 9:27Q3 when Shanghai came alive again it
- 9:29bumped up to about 50 million dollars
- 9:33per day in cash that Tesla is generating
- 9:37operating profits not losses and these
- 9:41numbers are getting better and expected
- 9:44to be even larger in the fourth quarter
- 9:46this is phenomenal and even if you
- 9:49subtract out the amount of money they're
- 9:50investing into factories like the 1.8
- 9:52billion dollars they spent in Q3 they
- 9:54still had over three billion dollars of
- 9:55free cash flow left over so already
- 9:57you've got two massively different
- 9:59companies one that actually prints money
- 10:02Tesla and one that doesn't Peloton now
- 10:06sure lead times are going down for
- 10:08Teslas but that could be for a good
- 10:11reason see Elon Musk has told us he
- 10:13thinks the wait times are actually
- 10:15really bad for Tesla because they just
- 10:17encourage somebody to go buy another
- 10:19electric vehicle from another dealer or
- 10:21another manufacturer because hey people
- 10:24don't want to wait for the for a new car
- 10:26when they make the decision to buy a new
- 10:28car they want a new car now so they can
- 10:31go buy a fuel efficient Prius from
- 10:33Toyota they might go do that instead of
- 10:36waiting for a Tesla now maybe they'll
- 10:39buy a Ford Maki or they'll buy a pickup
- 10:42truck or whatever they want to buy so
- 10:43this is where some are saying that
- 10:45Tesla's falling lead times are actually
- 10:47just going to enable Tesla to expand the
- 10:52number of customers they could have at
- 10:54Tesla and actually capitalize more
- 10:58market share during the recession than
- 11:00any other Electric Vehicle Manufacturer
- 11:03can during the recession think about
- 11:05that from an exciting point of view that
- 11:07basically means Tesla could eat the
- 11:10competition alive
- 11:12while printing cash taking more market
- 11:15share in a recession while the other
- 11:17companies can't even produce a
- 11:20profitable electric vehicle look at Ford
- 11:22for example they don't have a profitable
- 11:24electric vehicle they ate it they lost a
- 11:27lot of money on the uh Mach e model and
- 11:30they're still losing money that's scary
- 11:34contrast that with Tesla it means Tesla
- 11:36can just continue to make more cars and
- 11:38hopefully take away customers from
- 11:40companies like Ford or GM or other
- 11:42electric vehicle companies and then when
- 11:44we come out of this recession and it's
- 11:46boom time for everyone again Tesla's now
- 11:48already so much further ahead because I
- 11:52truly believe once people get into the
- 11:54Tesla ecosystem they don't leave it's
- 11:57kind of like you get into apple and then
- 11:59you feel like you're stuck I don't see
- 12:02people trading out of a Tesla once they
- 12:05own a Tesla and this brings up this idea
- 12:07that maybe in the short term we're
- 12:10seeing a little bit of fun because some
- 12:11believe a republican-controlled congress
- 12:13which could potentially happen might end
- 12:16up trying to unwind the inflation
- 12:18reduction act which promises large tax
- 12:20credits for electric vehicles with
- 12:22certain conditions and electric
- 12:24batteries and so on as well as solar
- 12:26panels and everything starting in 2023
- 12:29which could also be a big Catalyst for
- 12:30more sales however as long as Joe Biden
- 12:33as president I don't believe that Biden
- 12:37will actually sign something to overturn
- 12:40the inflation reduction act so I
- 12:41actually don't believe that's a very
- 12:43good reason to suggest that that EV
- 12:45stocks are falling because Republicans
- 12:47might try to end the inflation reduction
- 12:48act which again has has a large uh
- 12:51energy tax credit component to it but
- 12:54what you do have is fud from a recall
- 12:58this morning yet another recall led to
- 13:00yet some more fud over at Tesla and and
- 13:03the world of people who like to bag on
- 13:05Teslas take a look at this tweet that I
- 13:07sent this morning I sent this tweet
- 13:09headlines everywhere Tesla steering
- 13:12failure recall stock drops Tesla down
- 13:16five percent panic and then those are
- 13:19like the headlines I mean look at some
- 13:20of these headlines okay recall plagued
- 13:23Tesla calls back another 40 000 cars
- 13:27over possible steering issue
- 13:30then none of these say this in the
- 13:33headline but when you read the actual
- 13:34article you see a little note at the
- 13:36bottom of all these fud stories that say
- 13:39this is a voluntary recall that requires
- 13:42an over-the-air software update
- 13:44could you imagine seeing all of these
- 13:46alerts when Apple sends you a software
- 13:49update for your phone
- 13:51recall plagued Apple requires users to
- 13:54install update
- 13:57voluntarily
- 14:00it's quite sad honestly it's quite sad
- 14:03so what do we actually think for Tesla
- 14:07like bottom line what do we actually
- 14:09think for Tesla well I actually think
- 14:11this is a phenomenal opportunity
- 14:14to understand that the market is
- 14:16emotional the market is like a little
- 14:18child it's stupid in the short term in
- 14:22the short term it's gambling that's all
- 14:24the market is is in the short term it's
- 14:26just gambling it's a casino
- 14:28in the long term we can actually
- 14:30evaluate what true fundamentals are and
- 14:32my belief is that you don't even need to
- 14:35give any dime of credit to full
- 14:38self-driving revenues from Tesla
- 14:42uh you give some obviously in the
- 14:44revenue per vehicle but you don't have
- 14:46to give anything to semis cyber truck
- 14:48insurance Robo taxis the the bot that
- 14:53can't walk which I'm actually really
- 14:54optimistic on uh but you know people
- 14:57like to make fun of it you don't have to
- 14:58give any credit to that as long as Tesla
- 15:00can maintain about a 29
- 15:02uh profit margin gross profit margin on
- 15:05on the sale of vehicles
- 15:07Tesla should be worth
- 15:10should be worth about 481 dollars at the
- 15:14end of 2025.
- 15:16and since Tesla right now is trading for
- 15:18about 190 bucks that would represent a
- 15:2126 percent compounded annual return over
- 15:24the next four years
- 15:26that's actually pretty incredible 23 24
- 15:2925 wait a minute
- 15:31that's only three years away oh oh I'm
- 15:34gonna change that to three years that
- 15:36would represent a
- 15:3836.3 percent compounded annual rate of
- 15:41return and if Tesla can get that margin
- 15:44back and maybe even above 30 percent
- 15:46let's change this to uh 31 margin so 69
- 15:50expense oh my gosh Tesla stock could
- 15:54shoot up to 546 dollars per share a
- 15:58compounded annual rate of return over
- 15:59the next three years of 42 every single
- 16:02year this is phenomenal this is
- 16:04phenomenal now what could hurt this is a
- 16:06lower p e ratio but I don't believe that
- 16:09Tesla's p e ratio in the future can
- 16:12really be lower than their growth rate
- 16:14in fact their p e ratio could be as high
- 16:17as two times their earnings growth rate
- 16:19and right now we expect Tesla earnings
- 16:21to be growing roughly at about 50
- 16:23percent so about 1.1 times for a PEG
- 16:27ratio Tesla has pricing power Tesla has
- 16:31substantial growth and it makes little
- 16:34sense to see that Tesla's p e ratio
- 16:37would converge anytime soon to levels as
- 16:41low as what you see with Google or Apple
- 16:43which Apple's usually around you know 27
- 16:46to 30. Google's uh relatively low but
- 16:49then again their growth has slowed
- 16:51substantially they're somewhere around
- 16:5112. we don't actually expect to see
- 16:53numbers like that or like the stagnant
- 16:56vehicle manufacturers who are around
- 16:57like nine times earnings right
- 17:00uh we don't expect to see that for Tesla
- 17:03uh until probably in the 2030s when
- 17:06Tesla's growth actually slows but in the
- 17:09short term there are a lot of fears that
- 17:11Tesla is not a good company to invest in
- 17:14during a recession because people won't
- 17:16buy cars and so far that's being
- 17:17evidenced by lower lead times I think
- 17:19that is a reasonable concern
- 17:22but I actually think
- 17:24these lower lead times are a huge
- 17:27benefit to Tesla and the Tesla Community
- 17:28because this recession is going to be
- 17:30the time where Tesla just eats up all
- 17:33the competition obviously not all of it
- 17:35but I expect their market share to
- 17:37substantially increase during the
- 17:38recession whereas other companies will
- 17:40likely see their market shares decline
- 17:42during the recession as they panic
- 17:44because of recessionary costs and losses
- 17:46which Tesla doesn't have they're
- 17:47printing money so have I changed my
- 17:50opinion on Tesla not at all if anything
- 17:53it looks even juicier right now than it
- 17:56did at you know 210 or 220 or 230 or 240
- 18:02but hey you know what that's what the
- 18:05market does it goes up and down
- 18:07and folks thank you so much for watching
- 18:09check out those programs on building
- 18:11your wealth down below especially the
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- 18:15next one
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