Technoland : comment l'IA change la géopolitique — Transcript

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12. 0:28Romanity, to the permanence of Rome
13. 0:31throughout time, particularly today in
14. 0:34Russia, the United States, and Europe.
15. 0:37So today, I am taking you to Asia,
16. 0:40specifically to China, to address a
17. 0:42fundamental subject regarding power and
18. 0:45independence. It is the question of
19. 0:49technology, the question of artificial
20. 0:51intelligence, and also the question of
21. 0:52robotics. Conflit recently went on a
22. 0:56study trip to China. At the end of
23. 1:00September, we accompanied about fifteen
24. 1:03business leaders and executives. We
25. 1:07were in three cities in particular:
26. 1:09Shenzhen, Hangzhou, and Shanghai, which
27. 1:12are three tech hubs. We had the
28. 1:15opportunity to meet people at Huawei,
29. 1:19BYD, and Alibaba, as well as people
30. 1:21from the company Unitree, the world
31. 1:24leader in robotics, particularly
32. 1:27humanoid robots, with some very
33. 1:30impressive demonstrations. And this
34. 1:34stay in China and these demonstrations
35. 1:38allow one to realize the extent of the
36. 1:42massive gap between China and Europe. A
37. 1:47gap that many political leaders are not
38. 1:50aware of, and that is extremely
39. 1:53concerning. I don’t know, among the
40. 1:57presidential contenders, how many of
41. 2:00them have been to China, how many have
42. 2:03visited these factories, or how many
43. 2:05have spoken with engineers and
44. 2:07directors from Huawei, BYD, and Unitree
45. 2:10. I fear, unfortunately, that the
46. 2:13answer is very few, if not very, very
47. 2:16few. And it is worrying because it is
48. 2:19in these companies, in these cities of
49. 2:21Shenzhen and Shanghai, that the world
50. 2:24of today and the world of tomorrow are
51. 2:26being built. And the European lag is
52. 2:29something extremely worrying. On the
53. 2:32map that will appear before you, we
54. 2:35have produced a Conflit map that we
55. 2:37titled "Another World." This other
56. 2:40world, what is it? It is the Western
57. 2:43pole, the pole specifically of Europe
58. 2:45and the United States. Then there is
59. 2:48the pole of Asia, obviously, marked by
60. 2:51India and China. In this radius of
61. 2:55India, China, Southeast Asia, the
62. 2:58Philippines, Indonesia, uh Hong Kong,
63. 3:01uh Japan, you have uh 50%of the world's
64. 3:04population that uh lives there. So that
65. 3:09shows you the importance of this, this
66. 3:11weight of this region. And today, we
67. 3:15have a world that is increasingly
68. 3:17divided between two completely opposite
69. 3:20trends. On one side, Kaosland, and on
70. 3:23the other, Technoland. Kaosland, you
71. 3:27see it on the map, is a vast zone that
72. 3:29starts from Mexico, northern Latin
73. 3:32America, Bolivia, Venezuela, Colombia,
74. 3:34which includes a large part of Africa,
75. 3:37notably the Gulf of Guinea, and Central
76. 3:39Asia, which obviously touches the
77. 3:42Middle East and has a long trail
78. 3:44reaching as far as the Philippines.
79. 3:48Kaosland, as its name suggests, is
80. 3:50therefore a zone of chaos, a zone with
81. 3:52significant deaths, particularly
82. 3:54civilian deaths. Mexico is, in this
83. 3:57respect, one of the most dangerous
84. 3:58countries in the world. You have almost
85. 4:0236,000 deaths by gunfire each year,
86. 4:04mainly due to settling scores uh linked
87. 4:06to criminals and drug traffickers.
88. 4:0936,000 deaths per year, that gives you
89. 4:12more than 360,000 deaths over the last
90. 4:1510 years. You have the Philippines at
91. 4:18the other end of this Kaosland. There
92. 4:20too, a country where the annual death
93. 4:22toll is extremely high. We are
94. 4:24approaching 200,000 deaths per year.
95. 4:26200,000 deaths is equivalent to a
96. 4:28territory like Corsica. In Corsica, we
97. 4:30have about 330,000 inhabitants. So you
98. 4:33can imagine that the equivalent of the
99. 4:35population of Corsica disappears every
100. 4:37year in settling of scores. And then
101. 4:39you obviously have the Gulf of Guinea
102. 4:41and Central Africa, also affected by
103. 4:44this Kaosland. This Kaosland is also
104. 4:47the zone of the return of voodoo, of
105. 4:48the deployment of voodoo. I had notably
106. 4:52analyzed in a book published in 2022, "
107. 4:55The Decline of a World," and since 2022
108. 4:57, this phenomenon has only continued to
109. 5:00grow and increase. I am thinking in
110. 5:04particular of the war in Sudan, which
111. 5:07is a frightening conflict. You have the
112. 5:10conflict in the Congo, particularly in
113. 5:12the Great Lakes and Kivu region. The
114. 5:16estimated number of deaths today is
115. 5:17nearly a million. You have the
116. 5:21resumption of the war in Ethiopia in
117. 5:23the Tigray region. You have Nigeria,
118. 5:27where the center of the country, the
119. 5:29Jos Plateau, is marked by extremely
120. 5:32savage wars with population
121. 5:34displacement. The same goes for the
122. 5:37Gulf of Guinea, Mauritania, Niger,
123. 5:40northern Ivory Coast, also with the
124. 5:42return of human trafficking, the return
125. 5:44of the slave trade, along with the
126. 5:47dimension of cartels and the dimension
127. 5:49of drug trafficking. So here we are in
128. 5:52Kaoland. Kaoland is the return and the
129. 5:56expansion of archaism. Voodoo,
130. 6:00sacrificial rites, human sacrifices
131. 6:03essential to understanding these
132. 6:06criminal networks, massacres with
133. 6:09machetes or archaic weapons. And then,
134. 6:13alongside Kaoland, you have another
135. 6:16world, which is Technoland. Technoland
136. 6:19is Silicon Valley in California. It is
137. 6:22the new Silicon Valley in Texas, in
138. 6:24that triangle around Austin and Houston
139. 6:27. And then it’s Shenzhen, and it’s
140. 6:29Shanghai, and it’s also Beijing.
141. 6:31Technoland is humanoid robots, and it
142. 6:34is truly very impressive to see. When
143. 6:37you have...we saw this in China in
144. 6:39particular, a person who had had their
145. 6:42hand amputated and who was fitted with
146. 6:44a robotic hand—or rather a robotic
147. 6:46arm, or more precisely a robotic
148. 6:48forearm and hand. And with that hand,
149. 6:52well, they could hold a brush and
150. 6:54perform calligraphy more precisely than
151. 6:56I could with my own real hand, though I
152. 6:58am far from mastering calligraphy. Uh,
153. 7:01that is Technoland. Technoland is
154. 7:04Huawei phones that fold out into three
155. 7:07parts. So, for a format that is the
156. 7:10size of my iPhone, but you unfold it
157. 7:13into three. And so you have three
158. 7:16screens that form one large, fully
159. 7:17functional screen. Technoland is the
160. 7:21same cars from Huawei that are fully
161. 7:23autonomous and circulate in the streets
162. 7:26of Shenzhen. Shenzhen has 25 million
163. 7:29inhabitants, and so the driver has no
164. 7:32hands and no feet on the controls, and
165. 7:34the steering wheel turns by itself,
166. 7:36stops at red lights, at crosswalks, and
167. 7:39even moves aside when a cyclist or
168. 7:41someone on a scooter or motorcycle
169. 7:43approaches from the front. So the
170. 7:46autonomous car works perfectly. Today,
171. 7:49the only thing preventing autonomous
172. 7:51cars in France and Europe is the
173. 7:53legislation. It is legislative
174. 7:55prohibitions, but it is not a technical
175. 7:57problem at all; it is a legal problem.
176. 8:01Technoland is these robots that we were
177. 8:03able to see at Unitree and other
178. 8:05manufacturers. Robots, notably wheeled
179. 8:09ones, a type of dog that can climb
180. 8:12stairs, that move through forest-type
181. 8:15or slightly swampy areas. You also have
182. 8:20robots that go underwater and are
183. 8:22therefore used specifically for
184. 8:24security issues, for example, to
185. 8:26intervene in parking garage fires, to
186. 8:28go and retrieve people in high-risk
187. 8:30areas where human lives might otherwise
188. 8:32be put in danger. And then Technoland,
189. 8:37it's everything to do with drones,
190. 8:38obviously, which is developing
191. 8:39enormously. It is also everything
192. 8:42involving application development and
193. 8:45technological progress. And so the
194. 8:47world today, this 2026 world, and this
195. 8:50is the great challenge for 2027, is the
196. 8:53fact that we have two worlds unfolding.
197. 8:56Chaoland on one side, with archaism and
198. 8:59violence, and Technoland on the other,
199. 9:01which is technological development
200. 9:04pushed to its paroxysm. And the big
201. 9:06question being asked is where France
202. 9:08and Europe stand in all this. We are
203. 9:11moving further and further away from
204. 9:14Technoland because China has a lead
205. 9:16that is truly abyssal, which
206. 9:18unfortunately few people are aware of.
207. 9:22So we are drifting away from Technoland
208. 9:25and unfortunately Chaoland is arriving
209. 9:27more and more through criminal
210. 9:29trafficking, mafia networks, and
211. 9:31migratory waves. France and Europe are
212. 9:36being caught in Chaoland and moving
213. 9:38away from Technoland. So, for me, one
214. 9:42of the major challenges of 2027,
215. 9:44particularly in view of the
216. 9:46presidential and legislative elections
217. 9:49that will take place in 2027, will be:
218. 9:52does France wish to have a resurgence
219. 9:54to rejoin Technoland, or will it let
220. 9:57itself be absorbed by Chaoland, in
221. 9:59which case it would obviously be a
222. 10:02major decline that could, unfortunately
223. 10:04, last a very long time. So, that is
224. 10:08going to be one of the big issues. And
225. 10:10to meet this challenge, well, the
226. 10:12priority of priorities is to become
227. 10:14aware of it and to understand this
228. 10:17opposition between Technoland and
229. 10:19Chaoland, and the importance of
230. 10:21artificial intelligence, drones, robots
231. 10:23, and robotics, especially regarding
232. 10:25issues of power. And behind that, to
233. 10:29develop all of this, well, you need
234. 10:32engineers, you need technicians, and
235. 10:35you need capital. So it is also a race
236. 10:39for education, training, and innovation
237. 10:41, a race for energy that is abundant
238. 10:44and as cheap as possible. Therefore,
239. 10:48you need an entire ecosystem that is
240. 10:50necessary to enable the development of
241. 10:53technology. So it is not enough just to
242. 10:57file patents or to want to develop
243. 10:58businesses here or there. You need the
244. 11:01entire educational, energy, and
245. 11:04financial ecosystem to get there. That
246. 11:07is what China has succeeded in doing,
247. 11:09what Japan and South Korea are
248. 11:10developing, what the United States is
249. 11:12developing, and all that remains is for
250. 11:14France and other European countries to
251. 11:16develop this in their turn. Thank you
252. 11:19for your loyalty. I will see you very
253. 11:21soon for another episode of Conflits.