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Tablo reveals SECRET LORE behind Epik High's biggest hits ft. Jensen Huang | Hey Tablo Ep. 26 — Transcript

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0:00So this article came out in Korea and
0:03the headline is wild
0:05here's what it says
0:06I'm gonna translate
0:07"Jensen Huang, the guy who founded Nvidia,
0:11what did he write at his table at a KBBQ spot?
0:16This is crazy
0:17He shouted out Epik High"
0:20That's what the headline says
0:22okay, so you're probably listening to this right now
0:25or watching, us on YouTube
0:28and you're seeing the article, right?
0:30And you're probably like, "What?
0:31What are you talking about?
0:32What do you mean Jensen Huang shouted out Epik High?"
0:35So l- look at this picture
0:36There's a picture of what he wrote at his table
0:39while he was in Korea having KBBQ
0:42He wrote, "Jensen was here Love, Love, Love"
0:46And because of that, this article came out
0:48Okay I think it's far-fetched to think
0:51that he was actually shouting out Epik High
0:54because he wrote "Love love love," but
0:56why did he write "Love love love"
0:59Why three loves?
1:01I mean, it is an Epik High song, right?
1:05So today, we're gonna discuss
1:07the top 10 Epik High songs ever
1:16I highly doubt Jensen Huang was talking about our song Love Love Love,
1:21but who knows, right?
1:22I heard that uh he visited like a tech company in Korea
1:27and they played "High Technology" for him
1:30which is also an Epik High song, right?
1:32So it can't be a coincidence
1:34I don't know
1:35I wanna think he was shouting out Epik High's song,
1:38but I highly doubt it
1:41while we're on the topic of top 10 Epik High songs ever,
1:45if you wanna hear the songs I discussed today,
1:47we're doing a tour in North America, USA and Canada
1:51So if you wanna check out Epik High in October, please go to EpikHigh.com
1:56and you'll find the ticket links
1:59Okay, so top 10 Epik High songs ever is pretty hard to do
2:05because we have so many songs,
2:07and our fans are very passionate about what song they like
2:13And they're gonna be very pissed off
2:15that I left out Like 390 songs
2:19But what can I do?
2:20I, I can only fit 10 on this list
2:23So here's the criteria for,
2:25how I'm including the top 10, okay?
2:28Because it's hard for me too
2:29First of all, it has to have an awesome backstory,
2:33like a story that I've never told
2:37And two, it has to have proven someone wrong
2:41Because one thing that you know I love to do
2:45is prove people wrong
2:47You know, Tablo, 625%
2:50This is gonna play a huge factor in what song goes on this playlist
2:54First of all since we mentioned Love Love Love,
2:58that's gotta go in the top 10, right?
3:00No doubt
3:01So we'll start the playlist with that
3:03Hold on
3:04"Love Love Love."
3:05Okay, I'll call this
3:08Tablo's Top 10 Epik High songs ever
3:20Okay, Love Love Love is on the list
3:24So the second song I wanna put on this playlist is
3:26Epik High's Fan
3:29It's one of our most loved songs
3:31Oh, by the way, I'm making a top 10,
3:34but none of these are like in any order, okay?
3:37So any of these could be Number one or number two, okay?
3:41So Fan is the second song I'm putting on this playlist
3:45This is song has kind of a weird backstory,
3:48but it's not about the actual song
3:50It's about the the dance that we do
3:53You, you must have seen it, right?
3:54If you're a fan of K-pop,
3:56you may have seen, like, recent challenges where a lot of boy groups were doing,
4:02the, the Fan running thing
4:04So it's this thing
4:07오, 가질 수가 없어도
4:09This thing, okay?
4:11If you love us,
4:13you think it looks good
4:14But if you don't love us,
4:17you think it looks really stupid, right?
4:20and here's how this dance came to be
4:24So the song was coming out,
4:27this was our title track,
4:28and we had a show that we had to go on
4:31it was gonna be like a pre-taped thing so
4:34we had to go shoot this show
4:36And the night before we're like "Okay let's practice."
4:40So we're like practicing in front of mirrors but like
4:42why do we even need mirrors right
4:44'Cause, like Epik High has no choreography
4:47It's just the dancers doing their thing, right?
4:49And we're just, like, rapping,
4:51but we're practicing for this show
4:53And, you know, the fan hook, like,
4:56the, the tempo picks up and it, it goes,
4:58like, super fast, right?
5:00And it, there's like this dramatic tension,
5:03but just standing there kinda looked boring
5:07So we're like, "Man, there's gotta be something we can do here,
5:10like, during the hook
5:12because it just feels weird that the dancers are,
5:14like, going crazy but we're just sorta standing there"
5:17And I'm like, "Well, what can we do?" And
5:19the leader of the dance group,
5:21he was like,
5:23"Well, it's not like you guys are gonna be able to dance though, right, Hyung(bro)?"
5:26And I'm like "Right."
5:28And he's like, "So like what, what can we possibly do?" And I was like,
5:32"I don't know There's gotta be like something we can do here, right?"
5:35And he's like, "Well, what are you gonna do?
5:37Like, like run?"
5:40And we're like, "What? Wait a minute here
5:44It's not that bad, right?"
5:45And he's like, "What?" And we're like,
5:48"Do that again" And he does it again,
5:49and we're like, "Okay, let's, let's try it
5:51Oh 가질수가 없어도! And we started,
5:52like, running, right?
5:54So the whole... The dance crew is like
5:57Okay, are you really gonna do this, right?
5:58'Cause 'cause
6:00it's a huge risk here
6:01'cause Epik High has never done, like, dancing to a song,
6:05and this is not even really a dance
6:08like, people may hate it, right?
6:11But we're like, "I mean, it looks better than just standing there"
6:14So the dance crew changed their choreography
6:17to match our run,
6:19and we practiced, like, maybe, like, five times,
6:22and then we went to shoot the show the next day
6:25Up until, like, the recording,
6:27up until we actually did the stage,
6:31I felt fine with the decision
6:33I was like, "Okay, this is gonna be a lot better than just standing there"
6:37But, like, minutes before g- stepping on stage,
6:42you know, you suddenly have second thoughts
6:45And you're like, "Wait a minute,"
6:46like, "Is this gonna be okay?”
6:49Oh, my, We look stupid as hell
6:53what do we do?
6:53We can't change it now, right?
6:54Like, we've already done rehearsals
6:56Like, cameras expect this
6:58And we're like, "Oh, what the f**k?"
6:59There's, like, a crowd, too,
7:00and we're like, "Oh my God Oh my God"
7:02We go on stage, and I'm like, "Okay, f**k it
7:04We just gotta do it" We did it, right?
7:07And let me just, let me just say, Epik High's image at this, juncture of our career,
7:13like, we were known as, like, artists, right? And
7:21here's Epik High with their new song,
7:23and all of a sudden we're doing this weird, like, running thing
7:27And the crowd at first, when,
7:29when we did it, the crowd was like, "Oh O- okay What?" Right?
7:35And, so the show, we recorded the show,
7:38and the, and the And it was gonna come out,
7:40like, a few days later So show ends,
7:42and we go to have, dinner together
7:45And, my friend from Nell, he came, right?
7:50And he was hanging out with us
7:52And, I showed him, like one of our managers took, like, a video of, like, the monitor screen
7:59and I showed him what we had done
8:02And he's like, "What the f**k is this?" He, he's like, "Oh, oh, no," right?
8:10And I'm like, "Is it that bad?"
8:11And he's like, "Well, it's not that it's good or bad,
8:16it's just Kind of, it's like weird, right?
8:19And I'm like, "We already shot it What do I do?"
8:22Like, our career is gonna end in a few days, right?
8:25And we also have 인기가요 tomorrow, right?
8:27We have, like, a live sh- shoot the next morning as well
8:32I'm like, "Should I just take it out?"
8:34And he's like, "But wouldn't it be weird if you're standing for the
8:38Because the, the live thing you're doing tomorrow
8:40is gonna be the first thing that- Audiences actually see
8:44And then the thing you taped is gonna come out So if, if it looks
8:48like you're just running for that show that you taped,
8:52wouldn't it be weirder?
8:53Because that show was, this show called Love Letter,
8:57I think, which was, like, for artists
9:00Like, it was for bands and, like, legit artists
9:04It, it was not supposed to be a place where you dance Okay?
9:08Or run
9:09So I'm like, I'm like, "Oh, what do I do?
9:11What do I do? What do we do?
9:12Like, are we screwed?"
9:14And then we go to 인기가요,
9:16and, we're like, "We, we gotta just, you know, we gotta just power through this"
9:21So, and it was a live broadcast We did it, and here's the thing
9:27We came out after the show,
9:28and I'm like, "Okay, all, all these other idols there and all these other musicians are gonna, like, think we're a joke now," right?
9:36They used to look up to us
9:38But now they just saw us doing this weird-ass dance,
9:41and now they're just gonna, like, laugh at us, right?
9:44I come down,
9:45but here's the thing We came off stage,
9:47came to, like, the waiting area,
9:49and when we walked in, Super Junior,
9:52some of their members were there,
9:54and they were doing the thing when we walked in
9:57And I was I At first, when I saw it,
9:59I was like, "Oh, here we go Here we go
10:02The, the insults begin," right?
10:04"The clowning on us begins"
10:07But they were like,
10:08"형, this is, this is f**king awesome" I
10:10'm like, "Really?" And Heechul,
10:12I remember Heechul was like,
10:14"No," he's like, "I love it"
10:15And I'm like, "Are you kidding or like for, for real?"
10:18And he's like, "No, no, it's like, it's like, it's, it's, this is gonna blow up"
10:21Of course, there were some people that were laughing at us,
10:24but it did blow up
10:26And then we went to number one right away
10:28the song became a huge hit
10:30and Literally everybody was doing it, right?
10:35Like, we would go to shoot something
10:37and other artists there will be like,
10:39they'll see us and they'll go, "Ah"
10:42They'll, like, run towards us from over there
10:44They're like, "Hyung" Right? "Oppa"
10:48And they're all running over, right?
10:50So this is a case of where, um,
10:53trying something new
10:57And something out of your comfort zone is,
10:59i- is a huge risk where, like, you could,
11:04you could g- get made fun of by,
11:06like, the whole Basically, like, imagine, like, being in middle school, right?
11:10And you do something at a talent show, and it, can result in, people applauding you or,
11:17like, absolutely s**tting on you for the rest of the school year
11:22And that's sort of what, the music industry was like, right?
11:27Like, because during those times, you would go to shoot, like, a music show,
11:31and all the artists would be, like, together almost
11:36So if we do something embarrassing,
11:40we have to, like, sit through that like s-
11:43like we're in middle school,
11:45like at a cafeteria and,
11:48have people, like, kind of whisper about us
11:51and make fun of us, right?
11:53Which is really embarrassing,
11:55but like, it, it was a case where it turned out really well
12:00And now decades later, there's new artists
12:05that are t- that are doing it But again,
12:08because of this initial experience,
12:12I've mentioned this before,
12:14but when the whole fan challenge was going on recently,
12:18every single time I saw an artist post the dance I wasn't sure
12:24if they were doing it to, like, pay homage
12:27or make fun of us
12:29It's this fine line, right? I'm like, "Oh, I'm so grateful
12:34Oh my God, like, how do they know this song?
12:36Oh, this is awesome"
12:37And then this small voice inside me is like,
12:40"Are they making fun of me?"
12:43The next song in Tablo's top 10 Epik High songs ever, Peace Day, 평화의 날
12:49This song was- off our second album,
12:52and until our second album was done,
12:56we were not well-known
12:59Like, we didn't have a huge fandom
13:02that came later with the third album But when we were about
13:07to release the song, 평화의 날,
13:10we already had one album that didn't do well,
13:13and this was gonna be our second album, right?
13:15So A lot was riding on this second album
13:19because our contract with Woollim, our company at the time,
13:24was for three albums So with this-- If this second album fails as well,
13:29it- we are, like, close to just, you know, being ended as a, as a group because
13:37we would have only one more shot,
13:40but if two albums fail in a row,
13:42it's very unlikely that the company's gonna really invest in us
13:47or push us, right?
13:48And already with the second album,
13:50like they had basically cut our music budget to zero
13:56And they told us that they can't invest any money,
14:00for us to get songs or producers or, you know, collaborators,
14:05which strangely turned out to be awesome
14:09because it forced us to make our own music
14:14Like the second album was the first time we actually made the beats and,
14:20you know, the melodies and lyrics, and we did everything without any you know,
14:24help from like a famous producer, because we just can't,
14:27we just couldn't afford them
14:29We- our budget was literally zero
14:31So we're working on the album and,
14:34most of the album was like very hip hop,
14:38but I felt like we needed a song
14:41that would stick out so much that, people would take notice of us, right?
14:47Even i- in a negative way
14:49So my thinking was, like, because there were a lot of hip hop groups coming out Like,
14:54this was before hip hop was big in Korea,
14:55but there were a lot of hip hop groups that were coming out, right?
14:59And they all had pretty much the, like, the same sound It was all boom bap
15:04and kinda serious
15:05And I was like, "We gotta put something out this time that,
15:08um makes people either love us or hate us
15:12It, it doesn't really matter
15:13They need to, like, notice us
15:15and even if they, you know, click on our album because
15:19they wanna, like, s**t on us,
15:21they'll check out the other songs
15:23and they'll be like, "Oh, they're actually, like, very good
15:27Like, the music is actually very good," right?
15:29So I'll-- I wanted the title track to be something
15:32that just is very noticeable and flashy
15:35And 평화의 날, Peace Day, was- Just that song, right?
15:39But when I, you know, came up with the song,
15:41when I made the beat and then I played it for my members,
15:45Tukutz was, like, super against it
15:47Like, some of you know this story
15:48because I, you know, we've talked about it on various shows
15:52But Tukutz was like At the time,
15:54Tukutz was like a hip hop warrior Like,
15:59he was not willing to accept any song that was like
16:04faster than a certain BPM
16:06I- if anything wasn't boom bap,
16:09he just didn't even consider it music
16:12And he was so against, this song that I think,
16:19I think he like, he like, he knew that I,
16:23he couldn't really change my mind,
16:26but like, he was just like, "Okay, I'll, I'll let him just do what he wants to do
16:31I'll let Tablo, you know, go with this song,
16:33and if this song comes out
16:35and it does bad,
16:36I'll just leave the group
16:37I, I, I think that's what he thought, right?
16:39So I made the song
16:41and then I played it for my company,
16:43and what's crazy is the company thought the same way
16:49They're like, "This, this is like, this isn't hip-hop
16:53People are gonna be like, 'What the f**k is this?'" Right?
16:56And they, they, like
16:57'cause Like having melodies
17:00and having like a fast beat
17:01with all these like, you know, it,
17:03it had like elements of like electronica
17:06and it was just, it was just weird
17:08But I was like,
17:09"this is what I wanna do"
17:10And the company was against it
17:12and they were like,
17:13"We should go with another song,
17:15on the album as the titles track"
17:18And I was like, "I like all the songs on the album,"
17:20and you know I you know I worked,
17:22I made all those songs
17:23so of course I love them too,
17:25but this is the one that will get us attention
17:27And the company was super against it
17:29And we got into a huge fight,
17:31and the company demanded that we use another song as the title's track
17:37But...
17:38I'm me, right?
17:42And I was me even back then,
17:44although I wasn't, like, a star or
17:46I didn't really have any pull in the industry or at my company
17:51so what I did, the night before the music- Video shoot
17:55for another song the, the company selected that Tukutz liked
18:00I called the music video director
18:04and I told him,
18:06"We are changing songs for tomorrow's shoot"
18:10And he's like, "What?"
18:11And I was like, "I know the company told you to shoot for this other song,
18:16but we're gonna shoot 평화의 날
18:19We're gonna shoot Peace Day"
18:21And he's like, "Doe the CEO know about this?"
18:25And I was like, "No.”
18:26“but it's the right decision. Trust me" Right? And he's like,
18:30"Are you, are you f**king crazy?" And I was like,
18:33"Can you please do this for me?"
18:35And I sent him the song,
18:36and I also sent him, like, my ideas for the music video,
18:39and I was like, "I know it's, like, not gonna be easy,
18:41but with the sets that we have, we can easily fix this situation and,
18:47and shoot the way I want" Right?
18:49So he gets to work the night before
18:52And is preparing it We get to the shoot,
18:55and we're seriously just shooting Peace Day Okay?
18:59When we're supposed to be shooting something else
19:01In the middle of the shoot,
19:04the CEO of Woollim, 중엽이 형
19:07he comes to the shoot, right?
19:09And he's f**king pissed, right?
19:12Because the managers at, on location contacted him
19:15And they were like, you know, "These guys are shooting another song"
19:19Like, what's going on, right?
19:20So he drove all the way there
19:22He came in and he's, and like I, I see him
19:25I, I'm like shooting still,
19:26and he comes in and he's like y- you know, arguing with the director
19:32He throws a chair, screams, and leaves, right?
19:34And I get it
19:36I would be very pissed too, right?
19:38He's the one who's, who has to pay for this
19:41So he's like super pissed He leaves
19:43My members are sort of like pissed as well because they're like,
19:47you know, "Why are you crea- creating this drama?"
19:50Anyways, it, the director's like, "Cut,"
19:52and he's like, "I told you this was gonna happen"
19:55And I was like, "I know, I know, but one day
19:58they'll all realize this was the right decision"
20:02And he's like, "Well, I hope you're right because...
20:04there’s a high chance I'm not getting paid"
20:07And I was like,
20:07"I'll make sure you get paid e- even if we make nothing
20:10Like, it, I'll make, whatever we make from this album,
20:13I'll give it to you if he doesn't pay you."
20:15So we shot the music video
20:17It came out
20:18and um not surprising for me
20:23but to the surprise of everyone
20:25this song charted pretty well
20:27even though we weren't famous right
20:30And, word started getting around that,
20:34like you know, Epik High,
20:36there's this group Epik High, and they're like, their, their music is like,
20:39it's, it isn't hip hop,
20:41but it's also not like- K-pop
20:43It's it's, it's kind of weird,
20:46but, like, they're worth paying attention to, right? and
20:51Of course, the second album didn't, like, quote-unquote,
20:55like, blow up or anything It, it wasn't,
20:57like, a huge commercial success,
21:00but this song started getting, like, word of mouth going about Epik High
21:05And just as I had planned,
21:08people started listening to our other songs
21:10And they were like, "Oh, when they do hip hop,
21:12their hip hop is really good, too" Right?
21:15And our boss eventually
21:18was like, "You know, you were right"
21:20Tukutz was ready to quit the group
21:28I think he was more upset that the song actually worked out-
21:32and that this may mean we have to go in this direction forever, right?
21:37So I, he Legitimately like if I was him,
21:41I would be mad too, right?
21:42Like, 'cause he, he probably entered Epik High
21:44wanting to do, like, more traditional, like more classic hip-hop
21:49And, for the leader to suddenly go in such a drastically different direction,
21:56I'm sure he was legitimately unhappy, right?
22:00Like I, I, I get it
22:01And, but he like, you know, he threatened to quit the group The CEO was like,
22:05you know, "We don't have to break the group up
22:07You just have to leave" Right?
22:09And then he, he stayed
22:12But eventually, it, it all made sense
22:16because the next song I'm putting on this playlist
22:19is Epik High's Fly
22:21Fly is going into Tablo's top 10 Epik High songs ever,
22:25and not just because it was a, you know, it was our biggest hit
22:28It was our first smash single
22:31and, made Epik High What we are
22:35but I'm putting this in becaus e the song before this, Peace Day,
22:39Tukutz was hella pissed
22:42and ready to break up the group over it, right?
22:45But this song, Fly,
22:48I made it because Tukutz came up to me and was like,
22:52"Can you make something like Peace Day again?" "We need a hit"
22:59This might be our last album with this company or, like, at all
23:03Like, the next one has to hit
23:06Can you make something like Peace Day?
23:08And I was like, "What?"
23:12So I made Fly,
23:14and that's literally the backstory, right?
23:17And then I I played it for Tukutz and he's like-
23:21"This is gonna blow up
23:22and make us some money for once Right?
23:25Because at this point, we, we weren't making any money
23:28Like, we were getting noticed,
23:29but we still hadn't made any money off music
23:33we didn't have, like, a hit, hit song, right?
23:36But he, he listened to it and he was like,
23:37"This is exactly what I was asking for"
23:41And I was like, "Okay, I'm glad you like it
23:42Let's go"
23:43There's a, there's a phrase in Korea
23:44called 금융치료
23:48like finances are the cure, right?
23:52So, um Fly came out and luckily it blew up
23:57and we started making some money finally after three years
24:04So that's going on this playlist
24:06Circling back to Peace Day,
24:07it wasn't right for me to not tell my label,
24:12like the head of the label that we were going to do something like that
24:16But the reason why I had to do it was I knew he would say no
24:20Like I said We had fought so many times over what song
24:25would become the title track that, like, I knew he would never say yes
24:29But I also felt like I was, I,
24:32I was just so sure in my heart
24:34that this was the right decision
24:36and that it, it would benefit everyone eventually
24:39It, it just, it w- isn't visible yet,
24:42but one day the dots will connect and they'll get it
24:46But they just, they,
24:46they just can't get it yet,
24:48and I can't convince them
24:50I can't convince them with something happening in the future, right?
24:54So I'm just gonna let them hate me,
24:58yell at me,
24:59but do it and then prove them wrong
25:03Fortunately, it worked out,
25:04but what I'm saying is th- sometimes the lesson to take is
25:07you gotta take huge risks sometimes
25:10And, by risk,
25:12I mean, like, risking having the people you care about
25:17And the people you're doing- you're taking this risk for hating you about it
25:22Sometimes like as a, as a parent, as a friend,
25:26as like a, like, like a leader of a, like a company or like a band
25:31or like a group of friends,
25:34you gotta do something that you know will benefit all, right?
25:39But they will hate that you are doing it
25:43They will hate you for it,
25:44even though it's for them
25:46But if you believe, like, in your heart that this, this will work out,
25:52you just, you just gotta do it
25:55And it took almost a year for, Peace Day to really be proven right and,
26:04for us to drop Fly, and everything made sense once, once it all worked out
26:09But I, I'm, I'm saying,
26:10like- Sometimes you just gotta,
26:11you just gotta do it
26:12Now, if it didn't work out, now
26:17if it didn't work out the way I imagined,
26:20Epik High would've, you know, broken up
26:24Tukutz would be somewhere telling someone,
26:26"It was all because, you know Remember Tablo? That guy?
26:31That guy, that guy that supposedly went to Stanford?"
26:35"Well he wanted to fucking go with that song and then everyone hated it
26:40And then, you know, it's like that's when my, like, dreams of being a musician ended,
26:46thanks to that guy”
26:47And then Mithra will be at, like, some, you know, matjip,
26:50like, doing some mukbang
26:53And, and someone's like, someone's like, "Oh, I used to be a fan of, Epik High
26:57Your second album was great"
26:59except why why'd guys go with that 평화의 날, that Peace Day song?"
27:04he's gonna be like drop his spoon
27:05and he's like
27:07"Please don't fucking talk about Tablo in front of me."
27:11To be honest, Mithra might actually be happier if that-
27:16if this parallel universe actually happened
27:20and he was doing mukbangs,
27:21because mukbangs make a lot of money
27:25Respect to mukbangers
27:27The next song I'm putting on Epik High's top 10 greatest songs
27:32it’s gonna be a surprise
27:34because it is a song
27:38produced by DJ Tukutz
27:42and it is Epik High
27:44"Here Come the Regrets."
27:46So this song was mentioned, on a previous episode of Hey Tablo
27:51It was the song that almost went to Kanye
27:55Kanye wanted the song
27:57and he took it for what we presume,
28:01would be Life of Pablo, that album
28:05it never came out So
28:08when the song didn't come out, Tukutz was crushed, right?
28:12Because he, he worked really hard on this song,
28:15and it was It's a, it's a great song
28:17And Tukutz is like, "f**k"
28:21"This- I listened to the whole album and it's not on there"
28:24And I was like, "You didn't see the- track list
28:26Like, it wasn't on the track list
28:28And he's like, "I know, but maybe I thought he, like, changed the title
28:31Maybe he, like, slipped it in there, like, as a hidden track, you know?"
28:35And I'm like, "Well, what do you wanna do with it?
28:38Do you want me to, like, turn it into, like, an Epik High song?"
28:40And he's like, "Yeah"
28:43So I wrote the first verse to this song,
28:46and we wanted it to be an Epik High song,
28:49so we had to get Mithra, to do verse two
28:53But We thought it would be weird if the first verse is in English,
29:00Lee Hi's hook is in English,
29:02but Mithra just alone raps in Korean
29:05And here's the thing,
29:06Tukutz like was so mad about the song like not materializing on Kanye's album
29:13that he, he, he was like, "I want the whole song in English
29:16I want I want someone in the States
29:19to hear it and then like pass it on to him"
29:22And like, I want him to know like, what he missed out on, right?
29:26I'm like, "I'm not sure he's gonna listen to, us rapping
29:30and think that he missed out on it"
29:32Like, he's like, "No, just do it all in English"
29:34So I was like, "Okay, so you want m- me to make Mithra rap in English?"
29:41And he's like, "Yeah"
29:42I'm like, "Okay, this is gonna be harder than actually making the beat for this song"
29:48So I wrote Mithra's verse
29:50'Cause obviously he, he doesn't speak English, right?
29:53So I wrote him his verse
29:54and I was like, "Mithra, um, Tukutz wants you to rap in English
29:58So it's not gonna be easy,
30:00but I will guide you through it,
30:02and I will direct you
30:03And, we will do it until you sound great
30:07Trust me, you can do this, right?"
30:09And Mithra's like, "What?"
30:13He's like, "I don't, I don't speak English"
30:15And I was like, "I know We all know The whole world knows that"
30:19That's why it's gonna be such a surprise when you, when you pop out,
30:24you know, on the second verse and you're rapping entirely in English
30:27Like, imagine, like imagine the fans in North America
30:30where we're touring by the way,
30:33epikhigh.com, get tickets
30:34But imagine their surprise
30:36when you suddenly rap in, like, perfect English, right?
30:40And he's like, "Yeah, that's the problem How am I gonna do perfect English?"
30:43So we go into the booth
30:45It took Way less than I imagined
30:49because we did a lot of prep work
30:51I sent him, like recordings of how to pronounce the words,
30:56and I didn't wanna, like, write his verse in a way where,
31:00like, the words are easy, like too easy
31:02I wanted him to really spit out complicated words and,
31:08and make the rap like a legit, you know, complex rap,
31:13but Mithra's doing it, right?
31:15which makes it awesome So he really practiced and he came to the studio and like I was surprised
31:21He, he got it done like pretty quick
31:23Tukutz was very happy,
31:25and the song came out and luckily,
31:28you know, everyone loved the song
31:29There's a lesson here
31:30There were lines that, he had difficulty with
31:34and he would constantly make mistakes
31:37Like he, he got through most of the verse
31:38but there was like one line where he had to record like maybe 80 times, right? But
31:44But because he had me as a pronunciation coach,
31:48I, I would, you know, correct his mistakes as they happened
31:52And what was amazing was that when I corrected his mistakes,
31:55Mithra, like, was able to, like, make it stick
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33:02The next song I want on our,
33:04top 10 Epik High songs ever is Umbrella
33:09You're gonna be like, "Well, obviously
33:11I mean, it's, like, your biggest song
33:14Why would you not put it on the top 10?"
33:16Well, here's the reason why I'm putting it on the top 10
33:19You don't know this
33:22So the reason why I made this song, okay, it, it came to me while I was eating jokbal
33:27You might know that story, right?
33:29It was raining I was eating really good jokbal,
33:32and the song just came to me all at once
33:34Melody you know, the, the, the beat
33:37Also, like The lyrics, everything just, you know, clicked for me
33:41And then I ran to my house and I, you know, did a sketch,
33:45and then the rest is history
33:46But the reason why I wanted to make a song like Umbrella,
33:50up until that point, we had hits like Fan,
33:54Love, Love, Love We had Fly before that
33:57But, we never, ever did a song
34:00that was like an, like a ballad
34:03Now Epik High
34:05is sort of known for these songs
34:07like Love Story,
34:09you know we have a lot of these songs, right?
34:11So people say that it's,
34:13it's very Epik High-ish,
34:16but back then before Umbrella,
34:19we never had a song like that where it,
34:22where it was a lot of melody,
34:23where the beat was sort of like a traditional Korean ballad
34:27And the reason why I wanted to do a song like that for our fifth album
34:33was because this, there was this incident
34:36so at the time there was, like, another musician that was sort of,
34:42well, really big at that time
34:44He, he was a singer-songwriter
34:46and, he, he was producing for, like, this group of his
34:50He, he was sort of known at the time as sort of like a genius
34:54Like the artist, right?
34:56The hot singer-songwriter And I,
34:59I sort of had kind of a friendship with him
35:03And this one time we had to do a show together,
35:06so we were backstage together
35:08And there were other people there,
35:11and he was like, "Hey, Tablo, congrats on, like Fly and Paris”
35:16And I was like, "Thanks"
35:18And he's like, "You know, you're pretty good at making music now"
35:23I was like, "Okay"
35:26And, he was working with some legendary artists
35:30who were also known as, like, huge singer-songwriters, right?
35:33And he started name-dropping them,
35:35and he's like, "You know, they asked me to write a song for them"
35:38But basically, if these legends ask him for a song, it means,
35:43like, he's on their level as a singer-songwriter, right?
35:45So that's, that's probably the point he was trying to make
35:48So he's like, you know, he's like bragging about, like, the stuff he's working on
35:51And I'm like, "Where is he going with this?
35:53Like, why, why, like why is he saying all of this to me?"
35:57And he's like, "You know, you, you know,
35:59if you wanna like work with us,
36:00oh, oh, right, right, you don't you,
36:02you're not able to make songs like that"
36:06And I was like, "Hmm?"
36:08I was like, "Excuse me?"
36:10and he's like, "Yeah, 'cause you make like, you know, you make I mean, you make songs like Love, Love, Love, but it's like,
36:15it's like a it's still like a rap song
36:20And I'm like, "Okay, so what the f**k, right?" Um,
36:25but he, the point he was trying to make is,
36:27like, he's working with these legendary ballad, musicians,
36:31and they're getting songs from him
36:33And, and you will never be able to,
36:35Tablo, stay in your lane
36:38And I was like, "What the f**k?"
36:39Like, this is totally, like, unprovoked Like,
36:44I don't even care about this guy enough to,
36:46like- Have a, have a rivalry, right?
36:49Like, why is he doing this, right?
36:51And then we had to go on stage together
36:53So we're like on stage, I'm like smiling,
36:55I just do the show,
36:56and I k- kind of forgot about it
36:58Then, you know, every once in a while,
37:00like it would just kinda like pop into my head, right? 'Cause like
37:05he would release other songs and,
37:08you know, I used to really like his music too
37:10So I'm like, I'm like, "Why is he doing this," right?
37:14And then, and then I,
37:16I thought to myself, like, you know, I can definitely write a song like that
37:22I can write better than him if I want to
37:26So I was like, "Okay, next album I'm gonna put in a ballad,
37:30and it's gonna be It's gonna f**king blow everyone away"
37:34And it just wouldn't come to me though
37:38You know, telling Convincing yourself
37:41that you can do anything-
37:43And that you're gonna prove someone wrong is one thing,
37:46but it actually happening is, is another, right?
37:50So the song didn't come to me,
37:52and then I was eating jokbal one day,
37:54and then it came
37:55Oh Right? I think karma
37:58karma wa- it was there when this guy was kind of, you know, putting me down,
38:03and karma was like, "Okay, I'm gonna
38:05I'm gonna hook this kid up
38:06with something some- sometime, sometime soon" Right?
38:10And then on a rainy day while I was eating jokbal,
38:12karma gave me inspiration
38:15So I made Umbrella
38:16Umbrella came out,
38:17and here's the crazy thing
38:19The legends that he name-dropped,
38:22they heard Umbrella
38:24and asked me to write songs for them
38:27So I did
38:29and the person I mentioned let's not discuss,
38:33like, where he is in life
38:37Please don't make guesses in the comments
38:39Like, that's not the intention of this
38:41What I'm trying to say is sometimes people will,
38:45underestimate you
38:47or go out of their way to put you down, right?
38:50To, like, keep you down
38:52sometimes you gotta use that as fuel,
38:56and that's sometimes the best inspiration
39:00And if it allows you to move up a notch,
39:03because I proved to myself That I, I could write songs like Umbrella
39:08After that, I wrote many ballads, right?
39:11Like Happy Ending I wrote Love Story
39:13You know, all those songs wouldn't have happened
39:16if it wasn't this guy putting me down
39:18So in a way, I'm very grateful to him
39:21I know that wasn't,
39:22like, the I know it wasn't, like, a benevolent intention,
39:26what he did,
39:27but, you know, we were all young
39:30sometimes people do that
39:31And in a way I am grateful that,
39:35that he did that because it,
39:36it really did encourage me to try new things
39:40So that's why Umbrella is important to me
39:45not just because it's a big song
39:47Rosemary: It amazes me that you,
39:49Rosemary: you just casually say
39:51Rosemary: that it just came to you
39:53Rosemary: It's like... 🤯
39:55but I can't describe Umbrella in any other way
39:58because as I was eating jokbal- It,
40:01it, it, this doesn't happen all the time, right?
40:04Sometimes I'll just have a melody
40:05or sometimes I'll have, like, a piece of,
40:07you know, some lyrics or,
40:10or an idea for a beat But
40:12the way I heard it, it was
40:14어느새 빗물이~ 내 발목에 고이고~
40:19참았던 눈물이 내 눈가에 고이고
40:22I cry
40:23just all together
40:26I was like, "Oh, this would be a great song"
40:28And then I- You know, made the rest of the song
40:31So it's happened a few times, I think
40:35I think it happened once with
40:37Happy Ending I heard the melody
40:40and the lyrics at the same time
40:42Of course there was someone who worked with me on the beat,
40:45so, like, the beat was there,
40:47but I heard, like, the, the lyrics and the melody at,
40:50like, all at the same time
40:51but it's, like, maybe once,
40:53maybe once every four or five years
40:57It doesn't ha- happen often
40:59Um the next song
41:02is Epik High's
41:02"Don't Hate Me."
41:04As I was saying,
41:05I'm not picking the best, like,
41:08the definitive top 10 Epik High songs ever
41:12I'm picking top 10 songs based on, if they have a awesome backstory
41:18or they proved someone wrong
41:20When Don't Hate Me came out,
41:21you know, I've talked about this multiple times And I think some of our fans are probably sick of it now
41:28because, like, they don't like me, like, bringing it up and reminding them
41:34But you have no idea what I went through emotionally
41:38when this song came out Okay
41:41This song came out and,
41:43okay, y- you might not believe me right now
41:48because it's now, like, a loved song
41:51and it's, it's like Epik High's encore song
41:54Like- We go on any festival stage, we perform this song,
41:57and it just, it just goes nuts, right?
42:00People love this song now
42:01But when this song came out,
42:03you will not believe how much hate I personally got for writing this song and forcing,
42:13and forcing Epik High to to sing it
42:17Casual fans were like Okay, they went to YG
42:21and they're like doing some weird, like, you know, poppy, happy s**t
42:28Our core fans were like,
42:30a- and I kid you not, this was, this wasn't just, like, a couple comments
42:36Every music site in the comment section, in our fan communities,
42:42you know, when you drop a new song
42:45I don't wanna see comments,
42:47but when you drop a song
42:49like you wanna see if your fans love it
42:52Like you, you want to see them enjoy it,
42:54and I thought they would, right?
42:57So I wanted to see how much they loved it, right?
43:00So I go in and it was like,
43:03it was like unbelievable Like, "Tablo, you f**king destroyed Epik High
43:07Tablo, you f**king, you know, die"
43:10It was Like, I was like over a song
43:12I was like What's going on here?
43:14Like, 'cause anyways,
43:17like, ugh, it was, it was crazy
43:20Even our core fans were absolutely pissed off that I dropped this song
43:26And there are certain people now that are like, "Oh, I loved it since day one
43:31" Come on
43:34I'm grateful that you love it now, but at the time,
43:39there wasn't a single good comment Like seriously
43:43And, um,
43:44the reason why it broke me, I, you know, I've,
43:48I've dropped things where,
43:50you know, people didn't like it
43:51You know, almost all our big hit songs when it first dropped,
43:56like the, it would- divided people
43:58But, the reason why this song broke me was,
44:01I started writing this song like,
44:04like like a day or two after my dad died
44:08And, um
44:10The reason why the song is so seemingly happy is because I,
44:20I c- couldn't,
44:22I couldn't write songs like,
44:25y- you know, I did on Fever's End
44:27because I was going through something Like,
44:31I just didn't want to like...
44:34I just didn't wanna go there You know?
44:37Like, I was, I was trying my best not to accept reality
44:42And, so I wrote a song that was deliberately happy
44:46and, like, full of energy and,
44:48like, positivity because I, I needed,
44:52I needed to like get away from m-my reality right
44:58And as I was writing it,
45:00I was like, "You know, this song might do that for other people, too"
45:05So, like, I think people are gonna like it,
45:08although it's like, it's, it's kinda different from what, what we normally do
45:12and then, so I had it like you know, that's what I hoped,
45:16and then the song came out,
45:17and instead of like what I hoped
45:21people were like you know like angry
45:25So I was like
45:27This was the first time that after I dropped a song
45:30and I saw like the feedback
45:32like I went into my room and didn't come out for like three days
45:37Like I just, I just Because I think,
45:39I think reality kinda hit
45:41Like my, my actual reality hit at that moment
45:44I was like, "Oh f**k"
45:46And I, and then I bel- I believed the comments
45:49Like I, I,
45:51I couldn't come out of my room and I, and,
45:53and like I was thinking to myself like I,
45:56I, I ruined Epik High
45:58This was our comeback after years
46:00and I was like I've t- completely destroyed Epik High
46:03and, like, my, my dongsaengs were, like, counting on me and,
46:08and it, it wasn't even, like, a collective decision
46:11Like, they went with what I, what I made and it, it completely
46:16So it's like the opposite of the, the Peace Day story, right?
46:20That's what I thought
46:21And I had, again,
46:24Inkigayo waiting
46:26So we had to go on Inkigayo
46:27and I knew that, like, I would have to go on stage
46:30and smile through this song, right?
46:32But here's what happened
46:33So I'm very strong, but that, for some reason at that time I wasn't, right?
46:38And I was really scared to perform this on TV
46:42because I just, I just knew people Like,
46:44if you know s- people hate something you made,
46:48but you gotta do it in front of them, and
46:51and you
46:53It's just
46:53And I can't say no at this point
46:56because, like, you know, we're already booked
46:58So I'm like
46:59I'm just dreading Sunday right
47:03I get there um... and...
47:07Psy actually called me
47:10he was in the States
47:12because Gangnam Style was, you know, what it was, right?
47:16So he was in the States, like, doing his thing, and he called me
47:19and he's like I guess he saw the feedback as well, right?
47:23And he, he called me and he was like,
47:25"You're doing your first, live show, right?"
47:27And I was like, "Yeah"
47:28And he's like, "You know everyone that hates it now
47:35will be jumping and singing along to it when it becomes your encore song"
47:39He literally said that And I was like,
47:44"Hyung, why would it ever become that?
47:46'Cause, like, people hate it
47:48People hate me
47:49And the song's c- called Don't Hate Me, right?
47:52And he's like, "Dude, this song is amazing,
47:56and it'll take time, but it'll I swear
47:59it'll become your biggest song
48:01when you do it at concerts," right?
48:03And I was, I was like, "Thank you, Hyung"
48:04And then I hung up
48:05And I, and then I was like, I was still, like, down in the dumps,
48:08but we went on stage
48:10We, you know, we shot the thing,
48:12and as we were performing
48:14I was like, "You know, I-" It, this song is strangely,
48:18I, it makes me feel happy to sing it
48:23Like, I was actually enjoying performing this
48:27Although I, I, in my mind I'm like,
48:29"Everyone's gonna see this and, like, our, our fans are gonna hate us even more"
48:33But I was, like, at the end of the song
48:35I was actually smiling
48:36I was faking at first,
48:38but by the end of the song I was actually enjoying it, right?
48:41And I was like, "Hey, f- "f**k this," right?
48:45"f**k it I'm just gonna- I'm gonna just,
48:46like, have fun"
48:48And then we did,
48:49and then strangely enough, like, eventually, like, we would go to, like, a festival or, like, something,
48:56and sometimes At,
48:57at first we didn't perform this song on purpose, right?
49:00Because I was convinced people hated it but
49:04at this one, one festival,
49:06we performed it at the end, and it,
49:09like, it went- Absolutely bonkers
49:12Like, everybody was like, "Hey, man, I,
49:15I, Like, I was like, "What, what's going on here?" Right?
49:18And then it, we performed that at every show,
49:22and it became one of our,
49:24you know, like mainstays, like our, our,
49:27like show ma- mainstays
49:30and became one of our more,
49:32most loved songs
49:35And I think in here there's a lesson for, any creative or,
49:40even if you're not an artist if you're someone that's trying new things
49:45and you're listening right now, you're gonna,
49:50you're gonna run into situations where you, you do something with, with pure love and, good intention and passion
50:00and p- people, people hate it
50:05It's gonna happen
50:06Even someone as strong as me,
50:08I'm emotionally very strong,
50:10but because I was going through something in, in my life,
50:14I let it crush me once
50:16Like, I really believed the negativity
50:19There was a lot of it, to be fair,
50:21but I believed it
50:23And what I'm trying to say
50:25is, sometimes you gotta just let time do its thing
50:31Time determines what is, what is beautiful or worthwhile sometimes
50:36There are tons of movies that people absolutely hated when it first came out
50:44Th- there's a movie called Fight Club,
50:46which is a huge cult classic,
50:49and there's this there was this famous story where, Fight Club played at Cannes
50:53It w- it screened at Cannes Film Festival, right?
50:57And apparently during the movie,
50:59everyone walked out
51:00People were booing And like, they were like,
51:03"This is f**king Like, this, this shouldn't even exist" Right?
51:07And when that happened, apparently Brad Pitt turned to Edward Norton
51:12and said, "This is gonna be the best film I've ever been in"
51:17He said this as this was happening, right?
51:22"This is gonna be the greatest film,
51:23like, like, that I,
51:26I will ever make in my, in my career" Right?
51:29And, um,
51:30it-
51:30it became one of his iconic films
51:33And sometimes you just,
51:34you just don't know
51:36So like try new things,
51:38and if people hate you,
51:40they don't actually hate you
51:43So don't let it get to you,
51:44and just let time do its thing
51:46And, you know, time, time determines what is, what is a classic and what is not
51:51While on the topic of don't hate me,
51:53I'm also gonna include Born Hater
51:56because here's the funny thing
51:58Not only is it a f**king banger and, one of our best songs,
52:04it was the album after Don't Hate Me
52:07And I think... I think if,
52:09if Don't Ha- that Don't Hate Me situation that I just mentioned,
52:13like people hating that album, didn't happen,
52:17I don't think I would've made the Shoebox album
52:20Like Born Hater, Happy Ending, all these songs
52:25were kind of my f**k you
52:28to everyone that was like, Epik High's over
52:32and Tablo basically ended Epik High with the, with that previous album
52:35I was like Because at that time people were like, "Oh, f**king Can,
52:40can, can you guys stick to making your, like, sad songs?
52:44Why are you making f**king, like, poppy, happy s**t? We want some,
52:49like, sad Epik High songs"
52:51And I was like, "You want sad?"
52:52You want f**king sad? Here's Happy Ending
52:56Here's f**king Spoiler
52:57Here's Amor Fati
53:01But also, like, inside me there's a, you know, there's like a, "f**k you all," right?
53:06So I was like, when, when Tukutz made the Born Hater beat,
53:09I was like, "Yo, this is gonna be Born Hater
53:12Just watch me go off on this s**t" And, um
53:15I think Born Hater was on this album because of what
53:18So again I'm grateful for everyone that shit on me
53:24Sometimes you just need,
53:26you need some negativity sometimes
53:28to really,
53:30to really bring out the best in you
53:34But I've had enough negativity in my life
53:38I don't need it anymore
53:39I'm able to pull inspiration out of what I got now
53:41Enough, I have enough here Okay?
53:44I have enough pain already in here, okay?
53:47Like, you don't,
53:48you don't need to create any more negativity for me
53:51Don't, don't, please don't think that this is an episode about, like, oh, so Tablo wants us to,
53:56like, s**t on him so he makes good stuff
53:59No, no, no, no
54:00I have enough pain here now
54:02that I can just draw it out when I want
54:04Okay, so please just don't
54:07The next song is Epik High Trot
54:10Here's why this song is going on
54:13Hey, and if you, if you've noticed- Today
54:17is a very good balance
54:18between songs where, like, I produced the beats
54:22and songs where Tukutz produced the beats Okay?
54:26This is going out to all you Tukutz fans out there that,
54:29that were pissed off during our Wikipedia episode, okay?
54:36I give him props
54:39Do you see him doing a podcast talking about me?
54:46Do you see him somewhere name-dropping me
54:50and talking about the things I've done?
54:53Like good things I've done?
54:55Okay, so this trot song has to go on this list
54:59because, here's the backstory
55:01It started off as us making kind of, like, Mithra and I making fun of Tukutz
55:08So Tukutz- So we were m- working on our sixth album And,
55:13we wanted it to be a double album,
55:15so we needed a lot of songs, right?
55:17I came in with a ton of beats
55:20so songs like, Excuses
55:24there were songs like Slow Motion
55:26so I came in with, with like a bunch of beats
55:29He came with a bunch of beats,
55:31and we're like playing all of them in the studio
55:33and trying to decide what songs will go on the album
55:37And, he was like- Oh,
55:40there's this, oh, this beat I don't know
55:42And he's trying to skip one of the tracks
55:44And I was like, "No, no, play it"
55:46And he's like, "No, no, no, this is like,
55:48like this is weird" And I was like,
55:50"Just play it
55:51I'll, I'll tell you if it's weird, right?"
55:54And he's like, "No, but it's like f**king It sounds like, ah"
55:57And he plays it, right?
55:59And it was the beat for Trot
56:02And, when, when he played it,
56:04it wasn't as complete as The, the final song, but, like, he played,
56:10like, a sketch of the beat,
56:11and our engineer hyung, engineer was like, "What the f**k?
56:16This sounds like some trot s**t" Right?
56:21And then he was making fun of him, right?
56:23And it w- at that stage, it was pretty terrible, right?
56:26And Tukutz was like,
56:27"I f**king said I didn't wanna play it"
56:30And Mithra was like, "Oh, my, this is terrible"
56:32And I was like, "Wait, wait, wait a minute"
56:36If it's terrible because it sounds like a trot song,
56:41why don't we call it trot
56:42and turn it into, like, call it trot and ca- turn it into a,
56:47a song about trot?
56:49Remember how your dad last time was drunk
56:52and he told Like, I told Tukutz,
56:53I was like, "Your dad once told me,
56:56"야 이 ㅅㅋ야 트로트랑 힙합을 합쳐봐”
57:00remember that?
57:01We can do that now
57:03And I was like Do this, do this,
57:05and then the beat, beat can become what it,
57:08what it needs to be
57:08And then Tookas edited and,
57:10I was like, "Yo, just go in there and make a trot melody
57:14Let's just f**king go all the way with this"
57:17And so we turned an insult into, like a classic
57:25Don't get offended too easily
57:27If you wanna be an artist, I gotta say,
57:29like, don't get offended too easily
57:32Or get offended
57:34and immediately turn it into something positive
57:38And if you've, if you, if you've been, you know, listening to this episode,
57:42that's the common thread, right?
57:44Like, terrible s**t happens or like, you know, you get insulted,
57:48you get put down,
57:48but you, but the, the only reason why Epik High can talk about it in a positive way now
57:55is because we immediately turned it into fuel
57:58And sometimes, sometimes it's the best fuel Like people
58:02saying you're awesome,
58:04oh, you're a f**king genius,
58:05or oh, you're that, yo, you're,
58:07this is like,
58:08this is a banger, feels good,
58:10but doesn't really help you You know?
58:13Just take everything and turn it into fuel
58:16Last song is New Beautiful
58:19Epik High's New Beautiful,
58:20which is also like, you know, you can't go to an Epik High concert and not hear this song
58:25People love this song at our concert
58:28it was on the album with Don't Hate Me
58:30So it was actually one of the songs that people hated when it first came out,
58:35but proved itself to be like
58:38If we don't have this song, if this song and Don't Hate Me don't exist, like, we don't ha-
58:42we're not the performance group we are now
58:45Seriously
58:46Like, these two songs made our concerts so much better
58:50And, um, I just wanna give props to YG for this song
58:55Do you remember our Epik High episode with Taeyang? And this song came up
59:01This song was originally called Beautiful Losers
59:05Even the hook was, "Beautiful loser"
59:08That was the, that was the hook
59:10And we recorded the whole thing
59:13but when we played it for, YG,
59:18he was like, "It's a good song It's really good, but change it to,
59:23Beautiful Winners 'cause I don't,
59:26I don't like the word loser"
59:28It's such a negative word
59:29Like, I don't like it
59:30I don't like the word loser
59:32But here's the thing, like, we had We,
59:34we were done with the song and loser comes out like, like 50 times
59:40That's like the hook Beautiful loser, right?
59:45And I was like, "That" I'm like, "Sir, that, that's the, that's the name of the song, right?"
59:52And he's like, "No, I j-"
59:53He's like, "In my dictionary-"
59:56There's no loser
59:56Like, I don't like that word
59:58I don't like you guys even using it It's so negative
1:00:01Just don't use it And he leaves
1:00:03And we're like, "What the f**k?"
1:00:06We gotta change the whole, we gotta re-record this whole song, right?
1:00:09So we change it to New Beautiful
1:00:11And, we took out all the losers from the song, right?
1:00:15Even from the raps
1:00:16Song comes out and,
1:00:17and then later I'm at YG Studio
1:00:20and, I'm, like, working on something else
1:00:23But from far away I hear
1:00:29and I'm like, "Oh, s**t, BIGBANG's working on something new
1:00:32Sounds hella good," right?
1:00:33So I run over there, right?
1:00:35And, GD and, you know, Taeyang and all of them are there,
1:00:38and they're like They're, you know,
1:00:40they just finished a new song, right?
1:00:41And it's so good, right?
1:00:43And I'm, and I listen to the lyrics,
1:00:45and it's like, "Loser"
1:00:48And I'm like, "Is this song called Loser?"
1:00:52And they're like, "Yeah, it's, it's called Loser"
1:00:54And, you, and our boss was there,
1:00:59and he was like, "This is it"
1:01:01And I was like,
1:01:03"I thought you hated the word loser"
1:01:07So I was like, "But I thought you hated the word loser"
1:01:11And he's like, "If you guys use that word and to describe yourselves, people might believe it"
1:01:21But if, if Big Bang does it, it's, it's a different-
1:01:26And I'm like, "Well, he's not totally wrong" Anyways, I'm, I'm actually real- really glad
1:01:36that YG gave me that feedback
1:01:39because it gave us New Beautiful, which is a title that I love more, right?
1:01:45Because I do agree, it's, it's, it's much better than Beautiful Losers
1:01:50And it, it ended up becoming a better song
1:01:52I changed the melody a little bit, too
1:01:54And also Big Bang dropped one of my favorite songs that they ever dropped,
1:02:01whi- which was Loser, right?
1:02:02So I'm glad that that happened
1:02:06To be honest, YG was right
1:02:11Having the word loser on this song
1:02:13would not have worked
1:02:15So that's Tablo's top 10 Epik High songs ever
1:02:21Bye
1:02:22See you next week

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