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0:00Welcome to today's Veriscope where we're
0:02looking at the case of Susan Smith and
0:05you might not be aware of the case
0:07because it was way back in 1994,
0:10but Susan Smith has been convicted of
0:14the murder of her two children and there
0:18was a book
0:21written Beyond All Reason.
0:24What had happened was she had had an
0:28affair
0:29and she murdered her two children by
0:33allowing the car to
0:36roll backwards into water and the two
0:40boys drowned. So,
0:43here it is look on
0:44on
0:45Google. Susan Smith is serving a life
0:48sentence for drowning her two young
0:50sons, Michael 3 and Alexander 14 months
0:54in 1994. Now, she's served 30 years and
0:58what we're going to do today is going to
0:59listen to her appeal on television to
1:04try and find the black man who stole her
1:08car with the children inside, she
1:11claimed. And what we're going to do is
1:14statement analysis. So, some of you have
1:17been following the Veriscope channel for
1:19a while and
1:23you'll know how to analyze
1:25what she's about to say to us. For those
1:28who are new, if this is your first time
1:30watching Veriscope, imagine [snorts]
1:32that you're part of the FBI behavioral
1:35analysis unit and you're watching for
1:38the first time, which you might be,
1:40the video of mom and dad similar to many
1:46other parents like the McCanns for
1:48instance,
1:49they make an appeal on television and
1:52it's your job as the FBI agent in the
1:56behavioral analysis unit to determine if
1:58you believe her and him or not. And if
2:02it's the case that you don't, you'll be
2:05able to And don't forget there are two
2:06missing children. So, the resources
2:09which you employ have to be spent well.
2:13So, if you don't suspect the parents,
2:15you can put all of the resources
2:17elsewhere.
2:18Do you suspect the parents? Let's listen
2:20to what she has to say. We'll play the
2:22whole thing through
2:24and then we'll go back and analyze it
2:28using forensic linguistics.
2:31I might stop the tape every now and
2:33again if I can't help myself, but let's
2:35see what she has to say first.
2:40>> I think everybody knows that they are.
2:48I think everyone is aware I think
2:50everyone is aware
2:53of who these two are.
2:56We have a lot of family members here
2:58today and a lot of friends who are here
3:00in support of Susan and David.
3:03I'm going to let them
3:05say what they have to say now.
3:08>> Uh first of all,
3:11I would like to to say to whoever
3:14has my children
3:17that they please
3:19I mean please bring them home
3:24to us where they belong.
3:28Our lives have been torn apart by this
3:31tragic event.
3:38I can't express
3:41how much they are wanted back home, how
3:44much we love them, we miss them.
3:49They they they are our hearts.
3:55And who I have prayed every day
3:59and there's not one minute that goes by
4:01that I don't think about these boys.
4:06And I have prayed that whoever has them
4:10that the Lord let him let him realize
4:15that they are missed and loved more than
4:17any children in this world.
4:21And that
4:24whoever has them,
4:26I I I pray every day that you're taking
4:27care of them.
4:30And know that we will do anything,
4:32anything we will to help you to get them
4:35home back to us.
4:38I just can't express it enough that we
4:40we just got to get them home. That's
4:42just where they belong with their mom
4:44and daddy.
4:48Go ahead.
4:50>> I would like to take the time
4:52please
4:53to the American public that you please
4:57do not give up on these two little boys
5:00in the search
5:02for their return safe home to us.
5:05As you continue to look for this car,
5:08these two
5:09our children
5:11and for the suspect himself that
5:13[snorts] you continue to keep your eyes
5:14open
5:15and anything that you see
5:19that might would help please call
5:21and let it be known.
5:25Uh
5:28we ask
5:30that you continue
5:32pray
5:33for me and my wife
5:35and for our family.
5:36But most of all that you continue to
5:38pray the American public continue to
5:40pray for Michael and Alex that they are
5:43returned home safely
5:46to their mother and father
5:48and the family members who love them so
5:49much
5:51that you pray most of all for them and
5:53that they are being taken care of and
5:55that they are safe
5:56and that they will return home safely.
6:01>> I want to say to my babies
6:05that your mama loves you so much and
6:08your daddy and his whole family loves
6:09you so much
6:13and you guys have got to be strong
6:16because you are with with with I just
6:19know I just feel in my heart that you're
6:21okay but you got to take care of each
6:24other.
6:27And your mom and dad are going to be
6:28right here waiting on you when you get
6:29home.
6:33I love you so much.
6:37I want
6:38I want to I want to uh tell a story.
6:46The night
6:48that this happened
6:51before I left my house that night
6:59Michael
7:00did something that he's never done
7:02before.
7:09He had his pacifier in his mouth
7:12and he came up to me he took his
7:14pacifier out.
7:19He put his arms around me
7:21and he told me I love you so much, Mama.
7:27And he
7:28he's always told me he loved me but
7:30never before but
7:33not without me telling him first and
7:35that was just
7:37I'm holding on to that so much cuz that
7:40I did it just means so much.
7:49I love them.
7:51I just can't express enough. I I have
7:53been to the Lord in prayers every day
7:56with my family and by myself, with my
7:59husband.
8:01It just seems so unfair that somebody
8:04could take such two beautiful children.
8:07And I don't understand.
8:12I I have put
8:15all my trust and faith in the Lord that
8:18he's taking care of them
8:20and that he will bring them home to us.
8:28>> Hmm.
8:29What did you think?
8:36>> That's all. I can't I won't say anything
8:38else.
8:39>> Good luck, y'all.
8:40>> Good luck.
8:41>> Thank you.
8:43>> Now, [snorts] obviously that last
8:45statement that she said um
8:48more than likely she meant
8:51that she prays to the Lord
8:53that he's taking care of them
8:57meaning the fake kidnapper.
9:02But there is no fake kidnapper.
9:05And
9:09or there is no kidnapper, rather.
9:12And so is she praying to God there
9:16to take care of them?
9:18Let's just listen to that bit again
9:19before we go back to the beginning.
9:23>> I have put
9:25all my trust and faith in the Lord that
9:28he's taking care of them
9:30and that he will bring them home to us.
9:33>> Do you see
9:35Do you see the point here?
9:39She's putting all of her faith in the
9:42Lord
9:43that he will keep them safe
9:46and he will bring them back to us. But
9:49she
9:51obviously wants the crowd and you and I
9:55to think that she's talking about the
9:57kidnapper.
9:59But the way that she said it
10:03to herself
10:05is what she really means. Let's listen
10:07one more time.
10:12>> So unfair that somebody could take such
10:14two beautiful children.
10:17And I don't
10:18>> And also notice there that she says it's
10:20so unfair.
10:24So unfair.
10:26Now, your children are missing.
10:28Would you call it unfair?
10:31It's just so unfair.
10:34You see
10:39that is diminishing
10:42the horror.
10:46That's in a sense distancing.
10:50It's just not fair. Do you see? Do you
10:53see how that is not the anguish and the
10:56horror?
10:59It's unfair if, you know, things don't
11:01go your way.
11:04But
11:05losing your two children isn't unfair.
11:09So, she's got that bit wrong.
11:12>> I don't understand.
11:16I I have put
11:19all my trust and faith
11:21>> Okay, so she's now switching and
11:23bringing in the Lord.
11:26Bringing in God.
11:28Bringing in the higher power.
11:30And
11:35that is
11:37something which is often done in
11:40gaslighting and deception.
11:43It's that's I swear to God
11:46I swear on my mother's life.
11:50>> [laughter]
11:52>> Bringing in the deity is um
11:57is as well as it's as a stronger call as
11:59you can get, isn't it? But here we've
12:01got something very different indeed
12:04because she's bringing in the call to
12:06the deity to herself, but to the
12:08audience she wants the audience to think
12:11that she does the switcheroo
12:14to really she's talking about praying
12:16that the kidnapper will return them safe
12:18and the kidnapper will look after them.
12:20Let's listen.
12:21>> in the Lord that he's taking care of
12:24them.
12:28I I have put
12:31all my trust and faith in the Lord that
12:33he's taking care of them
12:35and that he will bring them home to us.
12:37>> Yeah, you see I think that's an error.
12:41>> [snorts]
12:41>> I think that is an error.
12:43And I think she has
12:47as far as she can put her faith in God
12:51that he or she or it is looking after
12:55those two little boys. And that's what I
12:57think the error is. So let's go back to
12:59the beginning.
13:01And this time we'll break it down into
13:05areas of deception.
13:09Oh, by the way, if you want to know the
13:12the latest, so she there was a parole
13:15hearing. She served 30 years
13:19and there was a a parole hearing and it
13:21was denied. And her husband
13:24um
13:25was there to to um
13:28say that he didn't want her released.
13:31And as we go through the
13:37video again, we'll note how the husband
13:43uses the two little boys' names.
13:47Whereas she
13:49Susan Smith
13:50distances in all sorts of ways. Let's
13:53break it down.
13:58>> I think everyone is aware I think
14:00everyone is aware
14:01>> So, how would you if you were the FBI
14:04agents at the Behavioral Analysis Unit,
14:08what would you have done?
14:10Would you have believed the parents?
14:13Difficult, isn't it? Because
14:16he's unaware of what she's done.
14:20So, he comes across as truthful. Look,
14:22he's protective.
14:24He's consoling.
14:26He's devastated.
14:30He's holding it together, though.
14:35>> of
14:37of who these two are.
14:40We have a lot of family members here
14:42today and a lot of friends who are here
14:44in support of Susan and David.
14:47I'm going to let them
14:49say what they have to say now.
14:52Uh first of all
14:55I would like this to say to whoever
14:58has my children
15:02that they please
15:03I mean, please bring them home.
15:06>> Okay.
15:07So, she has to emphasize the please.
15:12And starts off with
15:14what's most important to the person.
15:17So, what's most important to the person
15:19is establishing that whoever has her
15:23children
15:28But we haven't [snorts] had any social
15:29introduction of the children, have we?
15:32None.
15:36Let's listen one more time to exactly
15:38how she said that.
15:43>> David
15:45I'm going to let them
15:46say what they have to say now.
15:49Um first of all
15:52I would like to
15:53>> And the first of all
15:56That's unusual, isn't it? As a start.
16:00First of all
16:08Hm, does that sit well with you as the
16:11opener?
16:12First of all
16:19>> to say to whoever
16:21has my children
16:25>> Not our children.
16:27My children, which is
16:34Okay, I think.
16:37under the circumstances
16:40But we note that
16:43it's my children.
16:46And we note that no names have been
16:49used. And
16:51she's not describing them and what they
16:54were wearing.
16:56And the vehicle
16:59and the number plate
17:02Uh
17:03she's not doing any of that, is she?
17:05So often in forensic linguistics and
17:08statement analysis, it's not all And
17:11this is something that I haven't
17:12introduced very much in other videos.
17:14Um but there's over 200 hours of
17:17forensic linguistic statement analysis
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17:43you'll you'll see after a dozen or so
17:45Veriscope videos, your own skill level
17:49absolutely
17:50you'll be amazed at that how much you
17:53can see in in terms of deception. There
17:55is a bit of a Pandora's Box which I
17:57would advise you not to open too early
18:00and that is looking at your own previous
18:02emails
18:03and perhaps WhatsApp exchanges. I would
18:06wait until your skill level is a little
18:08bit more advanced and higher before you
18:11start opening Pandora's Box especially
18:13on past relationships. Trust Otherwise
18:15you'll read into um
18:18well
18:19I can't tell you what to do, can I? Just
18:21but And also who's going to take that
18:24advice?
18:25>> [laughter]
18:27>> As soon as you half know what you're
18:28doing, you're looking.
18:30I did. Anyway, let's carry on.
18:32>> But they please
18:34I mean please bring them home.
18:38To where they where they belong.
18:44Mhm.
18:49Our lives have been torn apart by this
18:52tragic event.
18:54>> Our lives have been torn apart. So we
18:57have that that self-centeredness.
19:02It's
19:04not priority for the children.
19:07Whose name she can't use.
19:11So it's self-orientated
19:17Will we start to see the need to
19:19convince? Will we start to see the I'm a
19:21good mom,
19:23which is what we'll often see in these
19:25sorts of cases.
19:28She's using the kidnapping ruse,
19:31very common in cases uh like this, isn't
19:36it? With the parents,
19:38>> [snorts]
19:38>> they come up with a kidnapping ruse.
19:42Nearly all of them, don't they?
19:48>> Okay.
19:51I can't express
19:54how much they are wanting back home, how
19:57much we love them.
19:59>> Okay, so this is the need to convince.
20:04This is a is meant to be
20:07a desperately hurt, in anguish,
20:11traumatized, [snorts]
20:12in terror mother whose children are
20:15missing, and she says a black man stole
20:19the car with the children inside.
20:26But,
20:28she's not showing any of that to me. Is
20:31she to you? Would you have believed her?
20:39Look,
20:41she strapped her sons into the car
20:43seats,
20:44and she rolled her car into the lake
20:49in South Carolina.
20:58For 9 days, she claimed a black man had
21:01carjacked her and kidnapped the boys,
21:05sparking a massive nationwide search and
21:08lots of emotional televised pleas. There
21:11was a part which perhaps we'll play
21:13later if I can find the tape where she
21:15uses the past tense and she says
21:18something along the lines of my boys
21:21needed me.
21:23This is before they were found.
21:25So she used the past tense. Isn't that
21:28very common, isn't it?
21:30They get the tenses wrong.
21:33Or the pronouns incorrect very often.
21:35Or the pronouns dropped.
21:39And then there was the motive.
21:40Prosecutors revealed that Smith was in a
21:43relationship with a wealthy man.
21:47Tom Findley
21:50who had recently ended the affair
21:53because he did not want children.
21:57Oh dear.
22:01So she murdered them
22:04out of that selfish interest.
22:12And there was a 12-day trial. Perhaps
22:14we'll see if we can find some of the
22:16trial
22:17if it was televised, I don't know.
22:21But anyway, she had she had a parole
22:24hearing and David who we saw there
22:26consoling her
22:28um
22:30expressed his opposition.
22:32So let's go back to the actual tape
22:35itself.
22:36>> I miss them.
22:39They They They are our hearts.
22:45And who I have prayed every day.
22:50And there's not one minute that goes by
22:52that I don't think about these boys.
22:55>> So she's convincing us, isn't she? She's
22:58spending all of this television time
23:01convincing us how much she prays, how
23:05much she loves them, how much she wants
23:07them back. This is the need to convince.
23:11And no time on the children,
23:14who they are, what they look like, what
23:17they're wearing,
23:19her car, the nothing.
23:22This is just a self-centered speech.
23:29You'll see similarities with other
23:30parents who have kidnapping ruses.
23:37>> And I have prayed that whoever has them
23:41that the Lord would let them and let him
23:43realize
23:45>> Ah, did you catch it?
23:48Did you hear that?
23:51We had a pronoun error.
23:53Let's listen again. Listen very
23:55carefully because at conversational
23:57speed they're easy to miss.
24:01Let's listen again.
24:07>> And I have prayed that whoever has them
24:11that the Lord would let them and let him
24:13realize
24:47that they are missed and
24:52>> Let them let him realize.
24:57I don't understand.
24:59Let Let's play that one more time.
25:01>> today.
25:02And there's not one minute that goes by
25:04that I don't think about these boys.
25:09And I have prayed that whoever has them
25:13that the Lord would let them let him
25:15realize
25:19>> Well, she's going to say let them
25:21realize
25:22whoever has them let them realize.
25:28Hm.
25:30There's a pronoun error here.
25:33If I If I had more time, I'd sit with
25:36this for ages.
25:39She switches them to him.
25:42What's she going Did she mean
25:44these people as a couple because she
25:46knows nobody really has
25:49them
25:50the two boys.
25:52But she said let them let him.
25:58>> [snorts]
25:58>> Hm.
26:00>> But they are missed and loved more than
26:02any children in this world.
26:06And that
26:08whoever has them
26:10I I I pray every day that you're taking
26:12care of them.
26:14And know that we will do anything
26:17anything we will to help you to get them
26:20home back.
26:22>> Hm.
26:24We will do anything to help you.
26:31>> The words I
26:33I just can't express it enough that we
26:35we just got to get them home. That's
26:37just where they belong with their mom.
26:40>> We just got to get them home.
26:43>> When daddy
26:46>> What?
26:47>> I'll go ahead.
26:49>> I'd would to take the time
26:51please
26:52to the American public that you please
26:56do not give up on these two little boys
27:00in the search
27:02for their return safe home to us.
27:04That you continue to look for this car
27:07these two
27:08our children
27:10and for the suspect himself that you
27:12continue to keep your eyes open
27:15and anything that you see
27:18that might would help to please call
27:21and let it be known.
27:24Uh
27:27We ask
27:29that you continue
27:31pray
27:32for me and my wife
27:34and for our family.
27:36But most of all that you continue to
27:38pray the American public continue to
27:40pray for Michael and Alex.
27:43>> Okay.
27:45He let out that deep breath and then
27:48he became himself rather than the
27:50prepared speech to the to a degree.
27:52And when And as soon as he does that,
27:54what's important? The family.
27:57And he names the two boys.
28:06His
28:07speech was orientated towards finding
28:11them, the car.
28:15>> They are returned home safely
28:18to their mother and father
28:20and the family members who love them so
28:22much.
28:23That you pray most of all for them and
28:25that they are being taken care of and
28:27that they are safe
28:29and that they will return home safely.
28:35>> Mhm.
28:36>> [clears throat]
28:36>> And
28:37he's
28:41convincing himself that they will.
28:48He has no idea that this woman has had
28:51an affair
28:55and has murdered their two children
28:59because she believes that's how she'll
29:01get back with the man.
29:05>> I want to say to my babies
29:09>> Okay, so the children are not named
29:11still.
29:13And she wants to say
29:16and before she would say
29:18So we have a slight change of language.
29:21>> that your mama loves you so much and
29:24your daddy this whole family loves you
29:26so much.
29:28>> What did you think of the cry?
29:32Just listen again.
29:35>> I want to say to my babies
29:39that your mama loves you so much and
29:41your daddy this whole family loves you
29:43so much.
29:46And you guys have got to be strong
29:50because you are Wait, what do you I just
29:52know I just feel in my heart that you're
29:55okay, but you got to
29:58>> Yeah, very often they'll say I know
30:01she's out there somewhere
30:03or I feel in my heart.
30:06There's this um
30:12strange
30:20obituary type of language which occurs.
30:27I know she's out there is very common,
30:29isn't it?
30:31Or I know he's out there. That that type
30:33of language.
30:36I feel it in my heart.
30:40>> Take care of each other.
30:43And your mom and dad are going to be
30:45right here waiting on you when you get
30:46home.
30:50I love you so much.
30:53I want
30:55I want to I want to uh uh tell a story.
30:59>> Yeah, you see that's just so wrong,
31:01isn't it?
31:03She stuttered. She stumbled.
31:06And and she changed pitch and tone.
31:11And she wants to tell a story.
31:18The need to further convince the
31:21audience what a good mom she is and how
31:24much she loves and how much she loves
31:26them
31:27and how much she wants them back whilst
31:30doing very little to actually
31:33help.
31:36It's all about
31:38I love them and I want them back.
31:41I really do.
31:47It's the need to convince.
31:50She's not conveying, is she?
31:59>> The night
32:00that this happened
32:05>> Okay.
32:08The night that this happened.
32:13Let's keep that in mind.
32:14>> before I left my house that night
32:19>> Before I left.
32:23Now, remember, she has free speech. She
32:26has free will.
32:30And she decides to say before I left
32:33that night.
32:36So, she's used
32:38and she's used that.
32:41And she's used left. Let's listen again.
32:47>> The night
32:49that this happened
32:52before I left my house that night
33:00Michael
33:02did something that he's never done
33:03before.
33:11He had his poop right in his mouth.
33:13And he came up to me and he took his
33:15poop out.
33:20He put his arms around me.
33:22And he told me, "I love you so much,
33:24Mama."
33:28And he
33:29he's always told me love me, but never
33:31be-
33:32>> Okay.
33:34So, she wants to tell us this story
33:39about how much
33:44she loves the children
33:46and the child loves her.
33:49And that the child
33:51has
33:52And then she she sort of contradicts
33:55herself.
33:57And that the child has always said that
33:59she
34:00he he
34:01Hmm, do you see? It's all about
34:03portraying I'm a good mom.
34:06It's that it's it's the continuation of
34:09the need to convince.
34:11>> before that
34:14>> Let's one more time.
34:15>> that poop right in his
34:20He put his arms around me.
34:22And he told me, "I love you so much,
34:24Mama."
34:28And he
34:29he's always told me love me, but never
34:31before that
34:34with
34:36>> And he's always told me but never
34:38before. So, it's it's confusing, isn't
34:41it? And don't forget deception
34:45loves confusion. It's where it lives
34:48predominantly.
34:51When it's confusing,
34:54more often than not, there's deception.
34:58It's not because you're confused.
35:01And sometimes it's not because they're
35:03confused.
35:05It's the language of deception. So, um
35:08for years I would get confused. I I I it
35:12didn't feel right. My gut was on alarm.
35:17And and I put it down to me not quite
35:19understanding perhaps.
35:23But it was deception.
35:27It's not you.
35:29It's me, not you.
35:32>> [laughter]
35:34>> So, bear in mind when you when you hear
35:36this confusion
35:38or this
35:40uh contradiction
35:42and this strange language pattern, it's
35:45normally because there is deception in
35:47there.
35:49Let's listen to it one more time. He
35:50loved me before.
35:50>> Look.
35:52>> And he
35:54he's always told me he loved me but
35:55never before, but
35:59not without me telling him first. And
36:01that was just
36:02I'm holding on to that so much cuz
36:06I did it just means so much.
36:14I love them. I I
36:16I just can't express enough. I I have
36:18been to the Lord in prayers every day
36:21with my family and
36:23>> Okay, so she's really going to town here
36:26convincing us all that she does love
36:29them
36:30and that she does pray every day and
36:32that she is a good mom.
36:34But very little, she still hasn't
36:37mentioned their name. Have you noticed
36:38that with all of these
36:41murderers?
36:43They cannot mention the children's name
36:45very often.
36:46Sometimes not at all.
36:48Extreme distancing.
36:51But notice dad did.
36:55David did.
36:59>> and by myself with my husband.
37:03It just seems so unfair that somebody
37:05could take such
37:07>> And here we are. Look, we're back to
37:08where we started and she says it seems
37:11It seems Oh, I did I missed that. It
37:14seems so unfair. Let's listen one more
37:16time.
37:20>> every day with my family and by myself
37:24with my husband.
37:27It just seems so unfair that somebody
37:29could
37:29>> Wow.
37:31It just seems so unfair. So I So do
37:36excuse me, but um I I only caught the
37:39Well, I must have heard it, but I I I
37:41missed its meaning. Um so it just seems
37:46so unfair.
37:48Seems.
37:50Let's listen one more time. This is
37:52important.
37:57>> to the Lord in prayers every day with my
38:00family and by myself with my husband.
38:05It just seems so unfair that
38:07>> It just seems
38:09so unfair.
38:12So it's not even unfair. It just seems
38:15that way. It's even worse than I
38:17thought.
38:21It only seems unfair. You see, it's
38:24unfair doesn't sit right because losing
38:27your children is more than unfair. And
38:29that's is min you know, that's as
38:31minimizing as you can get.
38:33But she's gone a step further.
38:36And she said it just seems unfair. It's
38:38not even unfair, just seems that way.
38:41That's even worse minimization.
38:45So, if you were
38:48in the FBI behavioral analysis unit and
38:50you were the agent reviewing this tape,
38:54you would be very concerned and your
38:56feedback to the law enforcement officers
39:00who are investigating
39:02would be
39:06we believe the husband is unaware
39:09of what
39:10Susan Smith knows and that she has uh
39:14signs of deception to the degree that it
39:17is worthwhile
39:18spending resources investigating her.
39:24And of course then they might find the
39:26affair, the rich man,
39:30he ended their affair,
39:32etc.
39:33More quickly than they would have done
39:35had they been off on a wild goose chase
39:37looking for some may make-believe
39:41um kidnapper.
39:45>> Somebody could take such two beautiful
39:47children.
39:49>> That somebody could take Yeah, let's
39:51listen to this bit again. Again, it's
39:53minimizing. They're only children.
39:56And and it seems so unfair that somebody
40:03And she used them, didn't she, as a
40:05pronoun?
40:10Possibly referring to the to them, the
40:12couple. I don't know. I'll have to
40:14listen to that again and sit on it, but
40:15it was an error.
40:17Listen listen one more time
40:19to how she says this bit.
40:21>> My family and by myself with my husband.
40:26It just seems so unfair that somebody
40:29could take such two beautiful children.
40:32And I don't I don't
40:34>> And she did you notice the
40:35self-censorship halfway through that
40:38sentence? So, in would go the deception
40:40marker,
40:41the deception flag for the
40:43self-censorship.
40:47>> understand.
40:50>> If you missed that, let's
40:51>> so unfair that somebody could take such
40:54two beautiful children.
40:56And I don't I don't
40:58>> [snorts]
40:58>> She said such
41:00and then she self-censored and said two
41:03beautiful children. Did you Did you
41:04notice it?
41:09Carry on.
41:10>> understand.
41:14I I have put
41:17all my trust and faith in the Lord that
41:19he's taking care of them
41:21and that he will bring them home to us.
41:34>> Uh okay. Now, I'm with it now. I
41:37understand better.
41:38She's putting all
41:41her faith in the Lord that he will take
41:44care of them and he will bring them back
41:46to us. So, that's what she meant. Do
41:47forgive my confusion earlier.
41:57But she knows what she knows. And if
41:59she's putting all of her faith in the
42:01Lord to take care of them,
42:07then there's that obituary type of
42:09language still.
42:12So, I was confused.
42:15But, there's still something there.
42:21Let's carry on.
42:23>> That's all. Okay, I won't say anything
42:25else.
42:26>> Good luck.
42:27Good luck.
42:28>> Thank you.
42:32I'll answer a few questions now.
42:35>> [clears throat]
42:40>> It was promising at the first look when
42:41[clears throat] you got here.
42:43>> We found out when we first arrived.
42:45>> And was the was the report to you
42:47initially of a live sighting?
42:49>> It is our understanding that was the
42:51case.
42:52>> When did you first hear that there was
42:54good news?
42:56>> That came um early this morning to in a
42:59phone call
43:00to the house.
43:01>> What time, Margaret?
43:02>> I believe around 6:30 this morning.
43:05>> What was
43:06Susan and David's reaction to that?
43:10>> As Sheriff Wells explained to us, he was
43:12extremely encouraged by the lead that he
43:14received this morning.
43:16And it certainly gave us a lot of hope
43:18to hang on to.
43:20Um
43:22>> Okay, so that brings us to the end of
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