Susan Smith Cried On TV For 9 Days. One Detail Gave Her Away — Transcript
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- 0:00She has been crying
- 0:00on national television
- 0:01for nine days.
- 0:03Watch her eyes.
- 0:04There are no tears.
- 0:06Here is the mother much of the country is watching tonight.
- 0:10I would like to say to whoever has my
- 0:12children, please bring them home to us where they belong.
- 0:16That is a mother, on national television,
- 0:20begging a kidnapper for the lives of her two little boys.
- 0:24Michael, who is three years old.
- 0:27And Alexander, who is fourteen months old.
- 0:31And while she says it to the cameras,
- 0:33her car, with both boys still inside,
- 0:37is already at the bottom of John D.
- 0:39Long Lake. There is no body on screen.
- 0:43There is no witness.
- 0:45There is no weapon.
- 0:46There is no dramatic interrogation tape,
- 0:49and there is no magic lie detector.
- 0:52There is only a story,
- 0:53told for nine days, and a single sentence from
- 0:57one sheriff that finally left that story nowhere to stand.
- 1:02Because here is the part almost everyone gets
- 1:05wrong about Susan Smith.
- 1:06The legend says a clever sheriff cracked a
- 1:09grieving mother and pulled a confession out of her.
- 1:12That is not what happened.
- 1:14What happened is that a lie was failing from
- 1:16the very first hour, in front of the only
- 1:18audience that mattered, the investigators sitting
- 1:21with her while
- 1:21the cameras rolled,
- 1:22and it took nine days for the gap between
- 1:25her story and the truth to grow so wide
- 1:28that the story simply could not stand up anymore.
- 1:31This was not a woman being broken.
- 1:34This was a performance running out of room.
- 1:37And the reason investigators still study this
- 1:40case is that you can watch the seams.
- 1:42You can see exactly where the mask does not
- 1:45quite fit, tell by tell, day by day.
- 1:49So watch the performance with me,
- 1:51and count the seams.
- 1:53A lie this big has to hold in a
- 1:55dozen places at once, and we are going to
- 1:57watch it come apart in five.
- 2:01Five seams. And then the one sentence that made the sixth
- 2:06one impossible.
- 2:07One thing before we go any further.
- 2:10Two small children died in this case,
- 2:13and we keep those details off screen,
- 2:15out of respect for them.
- 2:17What we are here to
- 2:18study is the performance,
- 2:19and the patient, honest way real investigators
- 2:23took it apart.
- 2:24So let us start where the country started,
- 2:27on a dark road in a small town,
- 2:29with a story that mobilized a nation.
- 2:32It is the evening of October twenty fifth,
- 2:36nineteen ninety four.
- 2:37Union, South Carolina.
- 2:39A town of about ten thousand people,
- 2:43the kind of place where everyone knows everyone.
- 2:47Susan Smith reports something that will lead
- 2:49the news for the next nine days.
- 2:52She says a man carjacked her.
- 2:54She says she was stopped at a red light
- 2:57at an intersection out by Monarch Mills,
- 2:59alone, late at night, when a Black man got
- 3:02into her car, pointed a gun at her,
- 3:05and told her to drive.
- 3:07She says he eventually ordered her out of the car.
- 3:10And then, she says, he drove away with her
- 3:14two sons still strapped into the back seat.
- 3:18Hold onto those two boys for a moment,
- 3:20because everything
- 3:21that matters here starts
- 3:22with them, not with her.
- 3:25Michael was three, a talker,
- 3:27a little boy who loved his grandmother.
- 3:30Alexander was barely more than a baby,
- 3:32still in the car seat,
- 3:34still learning words.
- 3:35And the entire reason this became a national
- 3:38story is the thing any decent person feels
- 3:42when they hear it, which is that nothing on
- 3:44earth is more sympathetic than a mother who
- 3:47has lost her children to a stranger.
- 3:49That sympathy is the single most important
- 3:52thing to understand about why this took nine
- 3:56days, because it cuts both ways.
- 3:58It is exactly what made the country open its heart.
- 4:02And it is exactly what made her story so
- 4:06hard to question out loud.
- 4:09You do not accuse a grieving mother.
- 4:11Every instinct in a decent person says comfort
- 4:15her, believe her, find the monster who did this.
- 4:19So that sympathy is the cover the lie hid behind.
- 4:23It made the whole country look outward,
- 4:26for a stranger, while the investigators quietly
- 4:29began to look at the story itself.
- 4:31And that is the room we are walking into.
- 4:35Now watch what the story does,
- 4:38because the first seam is in the story,
- 4:41before anyone has gathered a single piece of evidence.
- 4:44A carjacker, the story goes,
- 4:47gets into the car, takes the car,
- 4:51and drives off with two toddlers still in the back.
- 4:54Sit with that for one second the way a
- 4:56detective has to.
- 4:58A man stealing a car wants the car.
- 5:01He wants to be gone, fast,
- 5:03alone, with the thing he came for.
- 5:06Two small children in the back seat are not
- 5:09part of what he came for.
- 5:11They are the opposite of it.
- 5:13They are noise, and risk,
- 5:16and the single most heavily searched for kind
- 5:19of victim there is.
- 5:20The likeliest thing in the world is that a
- 5:23carjacker pushes the kids out with the mother,or
- 5:26never touches a car with kids in it at all.
- 5:28A version where he keeps the babies and lets
- 5:30the only witness go free is the least likely
- 5:33shape the story could take.
- 5:36That does not make her a liar.
- 5:38People in shock tell jumbled stories,
- 5:41and the truth is sometimes stranger than the lie.
- 5:45But it is the first place a trained investigator's
- 5:48eyes stop and stay.
- 5:50Seam one. The story serves the teller a little too well,
- 5:55because in her version,
- 5:57the children are gone,
- 5:59there is no body, no evidence,
- 6:01and a suspect who can never be found.
- 6:04Now the second seam, and this is the ugliest
- 6:07one, so we are going to be precise about
- 6:10it and we are not going to sensationalize it.
- 6:14The man she described was not just any stranger.
- 6:17She gave police a specific description.
- 6:19A Black man, around forty years old,
- 6:23wearing a plaid jacket,
- 6:25a dark shirt, jeans, and a dark knit cap.
- 6:29Police released a sketch.
- 6:31And here is what that description did in the real world.
- 6:35It sent officers across Union and across the
- 6:38region hunting for a man who did not exist.
- 6:41Black men were stopped.
- 6:43Black men were questioned.
- 6:45Innocent people were
- 6:46pulled into the search
- 6:47for a crime that had never happened,
- 6:49because of a description that had been built,
- 6:52not remembered.
- 6:53The lead prosecutor on this case,
- 6:56a man named Tommy Pope,
- 6:58said something years later that should sit
- 7:02with all of us.
- 7:03He said the description was so generic,
- 7:05and then he added, it is terrifying to think
- 7:09if she had really named somebody.
- 7:11Think about what that means as a tell.
- 7:14Of all the stories she could have invented,
- 7:17she reached for the one she was most confident
- 7:19the country would believe without a second
- 7:22thought, because that was the story she expected
- 7:24people to accept.
- 7:27That is not grief.
- 7:28Grief does not engineer a suspect.
- 7:33Seam two. The lie was not just false,
- 7:36it was strategic, and the strategy tells you
- 7:39there was a designer behind it.
- 7:41And still, you cannot arrest someone for a
- 7:44story that sounds wrong.
- 7:46So watch what the investigators actually do,
- 7:49because this is where the professionals and
- 7:51the public start to split.
- 7:53The public is watching the television.
- 7:56The investigators are watching her.
- 7:58A South Carolina law enforcement agent named
- 8:01Pete Logan sits with Susan Smith and talks
- 8:03with her, more than once,
- 8:05over those nine days, and she is given a polygraph.
- 8:10Now I need to be careful and honest with
- 8:12you here, because this is exactly the kind
- 8:15of case where the myth is more dramatic than the truth.
- 8:19The myth is that she failed a lie detector
- 8:22and that is what caught her.
- 8:25That is not what the record shows,
- 8:27and it is not how good investigators talk.
- 8:31A polygraph is not a magic truth machine.
- 8:35What the agents had was not a green light
- 8:37or a red light on a dial.
- 8:39What they had was days of sitting across from
- 8:42a woman and watching the way her account moved,
- 8:45the small things that did not line up.
- 8:48And the thing several of them noticed,
- 8:51the thing that became one of the most quoted
- 8:54observations in this entire case,
- 8:57was about her crying.
- 8:58An agent described it like this.
- 9:01She would make the sounds of crying,
- 9:03but there would be no water,
- 9:05no tears, nothing.
- 9:08Now here is where I have to stop you,
- 9:11because this is the exact place where true
- 9:13crime usually lies to you,
- 9:15and we are not going to.
- 9:17Tearless crying is not proof of guilt.
- 9:20Shock flattens the body.
- 9:22Innocent, devastated people have stood in front
- 9:25of cameras looking strangely calm,
- 9:27or strangely theatrical, or strangely flat,
- 9:31and been completely innocent.
- 9:33And decades of research on deception are humbling
- 9:36and consistent, that the way a person looks,
- 9:39calm or nervous, crying or dry eyed,
- 9:43is a famously unreliable guide to whether they are lying.
- 9:47So the no tears observation was never proof.
- 9:52It was a compass.
- 9:54And the compass was pointing at the one thing
- 9:56she could not act her way around.
- 9:59The record. Seam three was a place to look.
- 10:03Seams four and beyond are where the looking pays off.
- 10:08Because while the country
- 10:09argued about whether
- 10:10that poor mother was telling the truth,
- 10:12the investigators went and checked the one
- 10:14thing she could not perform her way around,
- 10:17which is the physical world.
- 10:19She had said she was stopped at a red
- 10:21light, at that intersection,
- 10:23late at night, with no other cars around,
- 10:26when the man got in.
- 10:28And someone who knew that intersection looked
- 10:31at that claim and saw a problem in it
- 10:33that has nothing to do with feelings.
- 10:37The traffic light at that spot did not just
- 10:39cycle on its own in the dead of night.
- 10:41It changed for cross traffic.
- 10:45Which means for her light to have turned red,
- 10:47stopping her therethe way she described,
- 10:50there should have been
- 10:51another vehicle present
- 10:52to trigger it.
- 10:53But she had said she was alone,
- 10:55no other cars, an empty road.
- 10:58The light and the story could not both be true.
- 11:02By itself, that is a small thing.
- 11:05Lights malfunction, memories blur,
- 11:08and you do not break a case on a traffic signal.
- 11:11But that is not what it was for.
- 11:14It was a crack in the one surface she
- 11:16could not repaint.
- 11:18Everything else, the tears,
- 11:20the fear, the description,
- 11:22she could perform and adjust and perform again.
- 11:26The intersection could not be performed.
- 11:30The road was just the road.
- 11:33Seam four. For the first time, her story was colliding
- 11:36with a fact that existed whether she cried or not.
- 11:39Now the fifth seam, and it is not about
- 11:43how she looked at all.
- 11:45For nine days, Susan Smith had to tell the
- 11:47same story over and over,
- 11:50to two completely different audiences,
- 11:52the cameras and the investigators.
- 11:54And a true account can be repeated forever,
- 11:58because it is only a memory being recalled.
- 12:01An invented one is different.
- 12:03An invented account has to be rebuilt every
- 12:06single time it is told,
- 12:07and every rebuild is a chance for a detail
- 12:10to shift, to contradict the last telling, to drift.
- 12:14The investigators were not watching one performance.
- 12:18They were watching the same story told again
- 12:21and again, comparing every version to the one before it.
- 12:25Seam five. The lie had to survive repetition,
- 12:30and repetition is exactly where invented stories come apart.
- 12:35And that is the situation on the morning of
- 12:37November third, nineteen ninety four.
- 12:40Five seams open.
- 12:42A story that serves the teller.
- 12:45A suspect built from an old prejudice.
- 12:48A grief that arrives as sound without water.
- 12:51A traffic light that will not agree with her.
- 12:54A story wearing thin from being told too many times.
- 12:58And a nation that still,
- 13:00overwhelmingly, believes her.
- 13:03The sheriff of Union County is a man named Howard Wells.
- 13:08And Wells understands something the loud version
- 13:11of this story always misses.
- 13:14He understands that he cannot win this in a
- 13:17shouting match.
- 13:18You do not break a grieving mother by accusing
- 13:21her, because if she is innocent you have committed
- 13:24a cruelty the whole country will hate you for,
- 13:27and if she is guilty, an accusation just tells
- 13:30her where your evidence is weak.
- 13:33So Wells does not accuse her.
- 13:35He does something quieter,
- 13:37and it is the move the entire case turns on.
- 13:40He tells her a lie.
- 13:42He tells her that the intersection where she
- 13:45said the carjacking happened,
- 13:47that exact spot, had been under police surveillance
- 13:50that night, part of an unrelated operation in the area.
- 13:54Which means, he tells her,
- 13:57that officers would have seen the carjacking happen.
- 14:00And they did not.
- 14:02Now feel the architecture of that,
- 14:04because it is the whole game.
- 14:06He has not raised his voice.
- 14:08He has not called her a liar.
- 14:11He has simply placed one more fact on the
- 14:13table, a fact she cannot perform her way around,
- 14:16and it is the same kind of fact as
- 14:19the traffic light, only this one is fatal.
- 14:22Because if that corner was being watched,
- 14:25then the man in the plaid jacket and the
- 14:27knit cap was never there.
- 14:30The car was never taken.
- 14:31And there is only one place those two little boys can be.
- 14:35He has closed the gap between her story and
- 14:39the record all the way to zero.
- 14:41There is no longer any room for the performance to stand in.
- 14:45The lie needed somewhere to exist,
- 14:48and he has just told her there is nowhere left.
- 14:51This is the sixth seam,
- 14:53and it is the one she cannot leave open,
- 14:56because it does not depend on how she cries
- 14:58or what she says.
- 15:00It depends on a world that either contained
- 15:03that crime or did not,
- 15:04and he has told her the world was watching.
- 15:08And this is the moment,
- 15:09after nine days, that the performance ends.
- 15:13Not with a scream.
- 15:16Not with a dramatic breakdown under a hot lamp,
- 15:18the way the movies would do it.
- 15:20What the people in that building described
- 15:23is much smaller, and much heavier.
- 15:26She does not argue the surveillance.
- 15:28She goes quiet.
- 15:30And then she asks the sheriff to pray with her.
- 15:33Wells, who has known this family,
- 15:35who has lived in this town, prays.
- 15:37And then he looks at her,
- 15:39and he says four words.
- 15:41It is time. And she drops her head.
- 15:45And the woman who has lied to a nation
- 15:47for nine days says, I am so ashamed.
- 15:50I am so ashamed.
- 15:52She asks the sheriff for his gun.
- 15:55He does not give it to her.
- 15:57There is no recording of this.
- 15:59I want to be accurate with you,
- 16:01because the accuracy is the whole point of
- 16:04what we do here.
- 16:05There is no dramatic interrogation tape rolling in this room.
- 16:09What there is, is a confession given to a
- 16:13sheriff, and then something she writes down
- 16:16in herown hand.
- 16:17In that written statement,
- 16:19she does not describe a kidnapper.
- 16:21She describes herself.
- 16:24She writes that when she left her home that
- 16:26Tuesday, October twenty fifth,
- 16:28she was, in her words,
- 16:31very emotionally distraught, that she did not
- 16:34want to live anymore.
- 16:35And she writes the line that tells you the
- 16:38truth had been sitting
- 16:39underneath the performance
- 16:40the whole time.
- 16:42She writes that she dropped to the lowest point
- 16:45when she allowed her children to go down the
- 16:47ramp into the water without her.
- 16:50That evening, divers go into John D.
- 16:52Long Lake. They find her car.
- 16:55And they find Michael and Alexander inside
- 16:58it, exactly where the confession said they would be.
- 17:02And here is something that complicates the
- 17:04easy version of this story,
- 17:06and I think you should sit with it.
- 17:09Investigators who were in that room said that
- 17:11once the performance was over,
- 17:13her remorse looked genuine,
- 17:15and an FBI agent would later testify to exactly that.
- 17:20That is the unsettling truth the legend leaves out.
- 17:23The same person can engineer a lie for nine
- 17:27days, and feel real shame the moment it ends.
- 17:30But the shame is not what closed this case.
- 17:33What closed this case is that her words finally
- 17:37led somewhere real, to a lake,
- 17:40to a car, to a truth that could be checked.
- 17:44Because that is the
- 17:44only reason a confession
- 17:46is worth anything at all.
- 17:48It can be tested against the world.
- 17:51Hers was tested, and the world confirmed it.
- 17:54In July of nineteen ninety five,
- 17:57Susan Smith was convicted of murdering her two sons.
- 18:00The jury declined to sentence her to death.
- 18:04She received two life sentences,
- 18:05to be served at the same time.
- 18:09Decades later, when she first became eligible,
- 18:13parole was denied.
- 18:15Now let us go back through the room one
- 18:17more time and name what we actually watched,
- 18:20because if you can see it here,
- 18:22you will see it everywhere.
- 18:24We did not catch her by how she cried.
- 18:27Hold onto that, because it is the part that
- 18:31protects the innocent.
- 18:32The tears, or the missing tears,
- 18:35were never the proof, and a world that convicts
- 18:39people on how they grieve convicts the wrong people.
- 18:43What we watched was a story being checked against
- 18:47reality, one surface at a time.
- 18:51The shape that served the teller.
- 18:54The suspect built from a prejudice because
- 18:56it was convenient.
- 18:57The grief that arrived as sound without water.
- 19:01The traffic light that would not lie for her.
- 19:04The story that wore thin from being told too many times.
- 19:08And finally, the one sentence that told her
- 19:10the world had been watching the exact spot
- 19:12where her story said the crime occurred.
- 19:15That is how a real lie comes apart.
- 19:18Not in a single dramatic gotcha,
- 19:21but in the slow, patient,
- 19:24unglamorous closing of the distance between
- 19:26what a person says and what the world can confirm.
- 19:30The performance can be perfect.
- 19:33It does not matter, because the performance
- 19:36is not what gets checked.
- 19:39The record is.
- 19:40There was a second room,
- 19:42in another case, where investigators ran almost
- 19:45this same playbook on a man who was just
- 19:48as composed, and just as sure he was the
- 19:51smartest person watching.
- 19:53He held his performance far longer than she did.
- 19:57We will walk into that room next.
- 20:00If this is the kind of breakdown you want
- 20:02more of, the patient kind,
- 20:04the kind that respects the victims and refuses
- 20:06to lie to you about what the evidence does
- 20:09and does not prove, then subscribe,
- 20:11and the next room is waiting.
- 20:13The voices in this video are reconstructed
- 20:16for study, and every quote we placed on screen
- 20:19is drawn from the public record,
- 20:21the court file, and contemporary reporting of the case.
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