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- 0:00Most of these girls in this industry
- 0:02might need some help and who better than
- 0:04another woman to help them. I think with
- 0:06the girls in the industry, they don't
- 0:07run themselves as a business. What is
- 0:10GST? With $100,000. So understand that
- 0:1210% it's not yours. It goes straight to
- 0:15the ATO. You have to have the receipts
- 0:18cuz not every single item has GST. When
- 0:21do we pay the tax man? So once we
- 0:23registered for GST, you should be doing
- 0:26BAS BAS. someone who's been audited
- 0:29>> algorithm run in the background. So if
- 0:31anything sounds a bit dodgy, you raise a
- 0:33red flag. Is she making enough money to
- 0:35afford this brand new car?
- 0:37>> You've got no income.
- 0:38>> Do the right thing. Because if you
- 0:39started doing the right thing at the
- 0:41early stage of your career, you just
- 0:43send yourself to sex in the future.
- 0:54>> Welcome back to another episode of Spicy
- 0:56Wi Diaries. I'm your host Tia and this
- 0:58is Opal. Today we have the lovely Jess
- 1:00on our podcast. Jess is a bookkeeper.
- 1:02She's also just launched a business
- 1:04called Her Books. I'm going to preface
- 1:06this episode by putting a quick
- 1:08disclaimer here. None of this advice
- 1:10that we're giving you should take on as
- 1:11legitimate tax advice. We are not tax
- 1:14accountants and Jess is not a tax
- 1:16accountant either. You'll have to do
- 1:18your own due diligence when it comes to
- 1:19your own specific tax. Hi guys, thanks
- 1:22for having me. Yes, that's correct.
- 1:24Although I'm working as a bookkeeper, I
- 1:25have a degree in accounting. So I'm now
- 1:28working towards my future
- 1:30qualifications. So at this stage, all
- 1:33that I can offer for the girls is a
- 1:35bookkeeping service.
- 1:36>> Yeah. And is that online? How do girls
- 1:38reach you? Is it like an online consult?
- 1:41>> At this stage is just word of mouth. Uh
- 1:43one girl tell another. And that's just
- 1:45how I stumbled into this industry
- 1:47>> from one girl and she was telling
- 1:49another and another and that was when I
- 1:51saw the opportunity. So most of these
- 1:53girls in this industry might need some
- 1:55help and who better than another woman
- 1:57to help them.
- 1:58>> Definitely. So how long you been doing
- 2:00it for now?
- 2:01>> So the idea really started recently just
- 2:04a few months but I have been helping
- 2:06girls for the past two years with the
- 2:08girls in the industry. What do they
- 2:10mainly need help with and what do they
- 2:11need your services for?
- 2:12>> I think with the girls in the industry
- 2:14one thing they I see in common they
- 2:18don't run themselves as a business. They
- 2:20just think, you know, it's a money-m
- 2:22opportunity where I'll be making all
- 2:23this cash and I'll be spend it all, but
- 2:26in reality, you're running a business
- 2:27and you should treat as a such and, you
- 2:29know, be responsible about it because
- 2:31the moment you have money in and money
- 2:33coming out, you're running a business
- 2:35>> and the moment you're making money, the
- 2:37ATO is going to knock on your door and
- 2:38they want some of that money. We had a
- 2:41like tax episode and we both kind of
- 2:43short shared our stories about like how
- 2:46we got into the industry and we didn't
- 2:47even think like we didn't even know tax
- 2:49bills.
- 2:50>> The tax man.
- 2:51>> Yeah. Yeah. And I think a lot of girls
- 2:53because it's so stripping is such a
- 2:56taboo topic. It's not spoken about. So
- 2:58what kind of services do you offer?
- 3:01>> At this stage I can only offer
- 3:02bookkeeper.
- 3:03>> Yeah.
- 3:04>> So what we do go through all your
- 3:06transactions. So if you use your bank,
- 3:08you should have at least a business bank
- 3:11account and then we go through all your
- 3:13transactions. We can record keeping all
- 3:15your income, all your expenses. And then
- 3:17one thing I've done differently for the
- 3:19gears in the industry. So we can also
- 3:21track the income on an average. Let's
- 3:24say for you work 10 nights a month,
- 3:26what's your average? Because I
- 3:27understand that this business your
- 3:29nights might fluctuate. Yeah. So one
- 3:31night you might make let's say $400 and
- 3:33another night $1,000. So the idea is to
- 3:35understand at least how much make how
- 3:37much money you're making uh an average
- 3:40so that way you can sort of forecast
- 3:42your income or at least control a little
- 3:44bit.
- 3:44>> It is such a volatile industry and so
- 3:47money does go up and down and I remember
- 3:48the minute I started tracking it I was
- 3:50like where did that money go?
- 3:53>> Cash as well it's like it's unaccounted
- 3:56for sometimes.
- 3:58>> Do you encourage all your girls to like
- 4:00deposit their cash?
- 4:02>> Yes 100%. And the way that I set out
- 4:04this spreadsheet is in a way where we
- 4:06can put all the money in all the money
- 4:09out and then if you transfer or deposit
- 4:11some money that should all the form
- 4:12should be linked. So you should know
- 4:14exactly how much money you have in hand.
- 4:16So that's the way to set up. So that way
- 4:17it also helps you to take control of
- 4:19your money so you don't lose any cash or
- 4:21don't misplace any entries such as let's
- 4:24say you spend some money and you didn't
- 4:26take that into account. Yeah. And when
- 4:28you look at your cash, let's say you
- 4:29have $1,000 and you look at into a
- 4:32spreadsheet and there's only $800. So
- 4:34where's the other $200? So it holds you
- 4:36accountable as well for every single
- 4:38dollar in a way. I love tracking our
- 4:40money now. I think that's something as
- 4:41well as business owners. We're all
- 4:43business owners within the industry.
- 4:46Just looking at your year going like
- 4:48this is how much we made and then you
- 4:50can now put more things in place to go
- 4:52how can we make more money? What are the
- 4:54strategies we can go from there? So it
- 4:56would be really nice to actually have
- 4:58everything laid out.
- 4:59>> Yeah, it's Yeah, it's great.
- 5:00>> So when you take girls on, that's where
- 5:02you start. You look at
- 5:04>> their past expenses and then how to help
- 5:08them make more money really by tracking
- 5:10it.
- 5:11>> Yes. Correct. So like one of my current
- 5:13clients, we went through all her
- 5:14transactions for the year. So we
- 5:16download all the transactions from the
- 5:18bank, categorize everything. So she
- 5:21needs to do that because of course I
- 5:22don't know what her expenses are. So
- 5:24then I can run some form of and we can
- 5:26see exactly how much money she's
- 5:27spending on each item. Yeah.
- 5:29>> And then some of them are just personal
- 5:30expense that you can, you know, track
- 5:32yourself just so you know how much money
- 5:34is spending on hair, nails, and
- 5:36groceries. But there's also some of
- 5:38those who are deductions for the
- 5:39businesses because not everyone has a
- 5:41business bank account and that's where
- 5:44things can go missing. And the more you
- 5:46can track, the more you can keep your
- 5:48expenses on top. That means you're going
- 5:50to have more deductions
- 5:52>> and then a lower tax bill in the end.
- 5:55>> So would you say for girls to get an
- 5:57ABN, start a business bank account, and
- 6:00then every time you're spending money
- 6:02for work, spend only through that
- 6:03business account and then when you're
- 6:05putting money in, only put it in that
- 6:08account so it's easier to track it all
- 6:10for you especially to look through it.
- 6:12>> Correct. Ideally have a business bank
- 6:15account and each person is different.
- 6:18this person that I'm working out at the
- 6:19moment, that's what I say to her to do
- 6:21because she also has other platforms,
- 6:24other ways to make money such as only
- 6:26fans and other videos.
- 6:28>> So, if she has everything in one bank
- 6:31account, it's easy for me to track. So,
- 6:32I don't need to look into her personal
- 6:34expenses.
- 6:35>> And then from there, we can work. Okay,
- 6:37this is your expenses.
- 6:39>> From these numbers, we can also look
- 6:41into your income. If you're thinking of
- 6:43working 10 nights, so what's your
- 6:45average? That's why it's good to look
- 6:46into the average as well. Let's say your
- 6:48average,500 a night. Of course, not
- 6:51always, not every night's the same, but
- 6:54you at least know an average how much
- 6:56money you can make if you keep that. So
- 6:58then you can also work on their goals in
- 7:00terms of not making the money. I can't
- 7:02help them making money, but I can help
- 7:04them tracking the money. So let's say if
- 7:06you have a goal for that particular
- 7:07month, oh, I want to make x amount of
- 7:09money. Then if you work 10 nights, you
- 7:11should be making at least this much
- 7:12money. So you understand in the number
- 7:14wise how much money you should should be
- 7:16making per night. Yeah,
- 7:17>> of course it's not always the same. But
- 7:19what you can also do, let's say the
- 7:20first two weeks of the month, you just
- 7:23going to work two nights, but it wasn't
- 7:24great. So then looking at the numbers,
- 7:26knowing that you're not yet quite there,
- 7:28you can maybe add an extra night or
- 7:30perhaps if you have the only fans,
- 7:32maybe, oh, let's try to put more
- 7:35>> effort into that platform and see if I
- 7:37can get more money from there. And then
- 7:39we can track on the weekly,
- 7:40>> uh, halfway through the month and the
- 7:42monthly. So you can see exactly how much
- 7:43money you make, how much money you
- 7:45spend, and how much money you saved
- 7:47month by month.
- 7:48>> Yeah. A lot of clarity. Yeah.
- 7:50>> And it's like a fun game. It's like,
- 7:52right, how much can I make this month
- 7:54now? You've seen the last month.
- 7:56>> With our agency, we obviously got a fast
- 7:58turnover of girls. Some of them have
- 8:01been in the industry for a while. Some
- 8:02of them have come from working for
- 8:04employers. I guess kind of coming from a
- 8:08point of view of our watchers that would
- 8:11be like just started in the industry or
- 8:14maybe they've just become a business
- 8:16owner, a soul trader. I'm going to ask
- 8:18you a couple questions.
- 8:20>> What is GST? GST, that's probably the
- 8:24most taboo around this industry is
- 8:27understanding what GST is. GST is good
- 8:30service tax. So, aside of your income
- 8:33tax, you pay GST tax if you're
- 8:35registered. And again, let me remind
- 8:37yourself, I'm not a tax agent. This
- 8:38information you can find online is very
- 8:40simple to understand, but I'm just going
- 8:43to give you a rundown. So, GST is good
- 8:45service tax that you would be charging a
- 8:48customer. But of course, if you're
- 8:50giving someone a dance, you're not going
- 8:51to say, "Hey, can you give me 10% of
- 8:54GST?" So basically it's like when you
- 8:56buy something at a shopping the amount
- 8:59that you see is including GST. So just
- 9:02included that is basically 10%. So
- 9:05everything that you make if you are
- 9:06registered for GST is 10% of that you
- 9:10have to be sending to the ATO only if
- 9:12you're making more than 75,000 per
- 9:15financial year. And that's why it's so
- 9:17good to track because let's say for
- 9:19instance you're not tracking your money.
- 9:20you're just depositing all that much
- 9:22money in your bank account and all of a
- 9:23sudden that you let's say put $100,000.
- 9:26So understand that 10% it's not yours.
- 9:29It goes straight to the ATO. To put it
- 9:32into like a legitimate situation, if
- 9:34I've just gone for a lap dance with a
- 9:36guy and I've charged him $150,
- 9:39how much of that should I be putting
- 9:41away in an account to save for tax time?
- 9:44>> Right? So you're not going to be asking
- 9:46him an extra 10%. You do that when you
- 9:49send an invoice. But that amount would
- 9:51have been $13.64
- 9:55>> out of 150.
- 9:56>> Correct.
- 9:57>> Which is 150 divide by 11. That's how we
- 9:59get to that number.
- 10:00>> Okay.
- 10:01>> As someone who takes the deposits
- 10:03because I'll invoice our clients, I
- 10:05always do our deposit and then plus 10%.
- 10:07Am I doing that right?
- 10:08>> If you use a system like an accounting
- 10:11system, the accounting system will be
- 10:12set up correctly. So you don't need to
- 10:14worry about the actual numbers. But if
- 10:16you do that, that's how you calculate.
- 10:18Divide by 11.
- 10:19>> All right. Well, my invoices match when
- 10:20I message the guy. So, that does work.
- 10:23>> Good sign.
- 10:24>> Okay, that's good to know. Y accounting
- 10:26is just like I'm learning as we go. Like
- 10:28I do the books side of it. GST is one
- 10:31part. And then what are some other
- 10:33things that we have to prepare for?
- 10:35>> Oh, GST has part two.
- 10:37>> Okay.
- 10:38>> So, that's GST collected from the
- 10:40customer, but you also pay GST when
- 10:42you're buying when you're paying for
- 10:43something as a business. So let's say a
- 10:45dancer goes and buy a pair of shoes, a
- 10:47pair of blizzarders. And if that
- 10:49business also registered for GST,
- 10:51they'll be charging her GST. So let's
- 10:53say, let's give the same example, $150
- 10:57and whatever the amount was. So they
- 10:59charging you a GST on top of your of the
- 11:02price of the shoes. So when it's time to
- 11:04give the money back to the ATO in terms
- 11:06of GST, it will be the difference of
- 11:09what you charged minus what you paid
- 11:11for. So you just send them the
- 11:13difference. Okay,
- 11:15>> let's say for example, you calculate all
- 11:16your GST and that's 10,000 worth of GST
- 11:19collected and then throughout your
- 11:21expenses you sum up and you have 5,000
- 11:25worth of GST collected instead of
- 11:27sending straight away 10,000 to the AT
- 11:30you then be sending only 5,000 which the
- 11:32difference.
- 11:33>> And is that why everyone always says
- 11:34it's good to spend more? Yes, if you
- 11:37have the cash flow, but it's also good
- 11:39to know
- 11:40>> you have to have the receipts because
- 11:42not every single item has GST and
- 11:46sometimes like we're going through that
- 11:48details 10% doesn't mean exactly $1 of
- 11:52$10. So, you have to understand exactly
- 11:54how much money it stays on that receipt
- 11:56and then put that correct amount
- 11:58>> in order to claim that back.
- 12:00>> Aside from GST, girls would have to save
- 12:03their money for tax time as well. What
- 12:05do you suggest with that?
- 12:07>> Mhm. Correct. So those are two different
- 12:09taxes GST and there is income tax. So in
- 12:13that amount of money there'll be
- 12:14brackets that you can find online as
- 12:16well. Let's say if you don't if you make
- 12:18less than 18,200 you don't pay any tax.
- 12:22Unlikely in this industry from what I
- 12:24see but that's the threshold. So you
- 12:26don't pay any tax. It's up to that
- 12:28amount of money and then it goes from
- 12:30different practice being. So, I'm going
- 12:32to actually tell the numbers from the
- 12:34ATO website so there's no errors. So, if
- 12:37you make anything from 45,000 to 135,
- 12:40you'll be paying roughly 45%. If you
- 12:43make anything from 135,000 to 190,
- 12:46you'll be paying 35%. And then if you
- 12:49make anything above $100,000, you'll be
- 12:51paying 45%. So roughly but again not a
- 12:55tax agent there's a lot more other
- 12:57things to be taken into consideration
- 12:58such a Medicare Medicare levy it just so
- 13:01you have an understanding that at least
- 13:03that much money it's not yours you
- 13:04should be putting aside and then once
- 13:06you actually do your tax return then you
- 13:08can see the final number and then you
- 13:10have more than enough to pay that bill
- 13:12>> what's Medicare levy
- 13:13>> Medicare so you as an Australian
- 13:15resident you pay 2% Medicare if you are
- 13:18above a set amount of money which I can
- 13:21look and tell you exactly what that is
- 13:22you pay extra 2% and the reason why the
- 13:25Australian government they do that so if
- 13:28you have a private health insurance you
- 13:29don't have to pay for the Medicare levy
- 13:32so it's less 2%. So just a way of them
- 13:35getting you to get private health
- 13:36insurance and using them instead of
- 13:38Medicare.
- 13:39>> It's good that there's people like you
- 13:40to actually explain all this cuz
- 13:43>> as a business owner you just don't want
- 13:44to be every single part to the business.
- 13:47>> Yeah, definitely. It's good to delegate
- 13:49some things for sure. You focus on your
- 13:52craft and we'll handle the boring stuff.
- 13:56>> I know when I do the invoices, I
- 13:58literally have the music blasting and
- 14:00I'm like on my walking pad trying to get
- 14:02through it because I'm like this is just
- 14:04such a boring task.
- 14:05>> Do you do manually?
- 14:06>> I do on zero hour pop it all in there.
- 14:09>> Oh, that's good. That helps.
- 14:10>> I actually found my old tax book where I
- 14:13had to write it all in and then my
- 14:14expenses on the side and it was just so
- 14:16cute to look back on when I started and
- 14:19then where we are now. One of the girls,
- 14:21we have to have her on zero because she
- 14:24just got too many transactions and a lot
- 14:26of source of income. So I said, maybe if
- 14:28we do this way, it's easier for me to
- 14:30work on this side instead of always
- 14:32downloading bank statements. And that's
- 14:34why it's important to have that business
- 14:36account. So then that's the only thing
- 14:37I'll be looking at. But then if someone
- 14:39else is just doing a casual few nights
- 14:41at the cloud, so they don't need that
- 14:43much. So just a spreadsheet, Excel, it's
- 14:45enough.
- 14:46>> So the girls going in don't need to
- 14:48download zero. They can just have the
- 14:50spreadsheet for you.
- 14:51>> Yeah. Not necessarily. The idea is to
- 14:52track it. It doesn't have to be fancy.
- 14:54It doesn't have to be even if you do on
- 14:56a piece of paper, it's still information
- 14:58>> when they've got all their money sorted
- 15:00out. When do we pay the tax man? And
- 15:03what happens if we pay our GST or our
- 15:06tax late?
- 15:07>> Okay, so now it gets a bit more complex.
- 15:10So once you register for GST, you should
- 15:12be doing BAS BAS. So business activity
- 15:16statement
- 15:17>> and that's usually done every three
- 15:18months. So per quarter. So we have four
- 15:21quarters in a year. If you be making
- 15:23less than 20 million, you can do a
- 15:26quarter. If you're doing any more than
- 15:27that, then you have to do monthly. So if
- 15:29your girls are on that bracket, you
- 15:30should be doing every month. But another
- 15:32thing is if you voluntarily register
- 15:35yourself for GST so they know you are
- 15:37aware of that, you can also do once a
- 15:40year. So just when instead of doing quly
- 15:42you don't have enough transactions you
- 15:43don't have that much of GST paid and
- 15:45collected. So you can do just once a
- 15:47year just like a normal tax return.
- 15:49>> When do you start paying bass?
- 15:51>> As soon as you register for GST. And
- 15:54what happens if we don't pay the GST?
- 15:58>> Well you can then get a fine. Another
- 16:01way that they will try to get the money
- 16:03is hold you personally accountable for
- 16:06that bill. Let's say if you're running a
- 16:08partnership or a company and your
- 16:11company owns that much money, they would
- 16:13then find a way to charge the director
- 16:16for that GST. So you'll be held
- 16:18personally for that.
- 16:19>> Oh yeah. Yeah.
- 16:20>> So for example, if me and Opal because
- 16:22we're both directors, if the bill came
- 16:25in and like I didn't pay it, they would
- 16:27just charge us both.
- 16:29>> Yes. Personally.
- 16:30>> Okay. And then that would be like she'd
- 16:31get mad at me. So then I'd be and then
- 16:33it would make an issue. They try and get
- 16:36in. M they do
- 16:37>> but they'll send a few letters before it
- 16:39won't go straight to that point. I think
- 16:41there is a system the atto I think I was
- 16:44a day late with paying something they
- 16:46charged an extra $99 like a day they
- 16:49have been really full on and my
- 16:51accountant was like yeah they're really
- 16:53full on at the moment they are just like
- 16:55there's no leniency. Tell us about
- 16:57auditing and have you ever had an issue
- 16:59with that or seen someone who's been
- 17:01audited? No, not myself. But I do work
- 17:04with a tax agent and recently he was
- 17:07being ordered. Not him personally, just,
- 17:09you know, they just pick someone and
- 17:11pick five random
- 17:13>> customers and then funny enough, one of
- 17:16them was a dancer.
- 17:18>> Oh wow. So wait, they pick at random.
- 17:21Yeah.
- 17:21>> Just So is there anything that they look
- 17:24for specifically?
- 17:25>> No, they just take samples. So let's say
- 17:28so the the ATO just randomly picks
- 17:30people to audit. What I'm going to say
- 17:32now I can't say for sure but my
- 17:34understanding is that there are
- 17:36algorithm that's run in the background.
- 17:38So if anything sounds a bit
- 17:40>> dodgy
- 17:40>> dodgy it raise a red flag and then
- 17:43that's the system running in the
- 17:44background and then someone will then
- 17:47personally go look into that
- 17:49>> but that's just what I know but it's not
- 17:51like any information that I can say for
- 17:54certain
- 17:54>> the saying they're like just stay off
- 17:56their red flag thing. Yeah,
- 17:59>> you get flagged.
- 18:00>> And what's do you know the process of
- 18:01auditing?
- 18:03>> They would just be asking for a sample.
- 18:05So let's say for example you have a
- 18:07deduction of 7,000 worth of accounting
- 18:10fees for example
- 18:12>> and then they pick the sample say can
- 18:14you please provide a documentation of
- 18:16this deduction and then you have to then
- 18:18provide with the invoice. That's why
- 18:20it's so important to keep the record
- 18:22keeping as best as you can. As a
- 18:24business, you should be keeping for at
- 18:25least 5 years and even for yourself
- 18:27should be keeping for as long as
- 18:28possible because you never know when it
- 18:30might need it.
- 18:31>> So when you are like being a dancer, a
- 18:33lot of them get paid cash. So would that
- 18:35be a flag for the ATO?
- 18:38>> Again, I can't say for certain, but uh
- 18:41any cash business, they do have an idea
- 18:44of how much money those business will be
- 18:46making. And again, if you if you go
- 18:49through that algorithm and then goes
- 18:51through and there's nothing raised.
- 18:53>> Okay.
- 18:55>> Yeah. It's more if it's like we start
- 18:57making like we're buying cars and things
- 18:59like that that you can't justify.
- 19:01>> Yeah.
- 19:01>> Yeah. Even at they have they have to be
- 19:04transparent with everything that they do
- 19:06and all all of the accountants also know
- 19:09where they'll be looking for. So, as you
- 19:12mentioned, the car um my understanding
- 19:14is that when you buy a brand new car,
- 19:17the ATO would have to get a notification
- 19:19of that purchase.
- 19:20>> Okay.
- 19:20>> So, then they'll look into your tax
- 19:23returns like, "Oh, is she making enough
- 19:25money to afford this brand new car
- 19:27>> and then says that that you only
- 19:28declared $30,000 and you're buying
- 19:31$100,000 worth of car."
- 19:33>> Yeah. I've seen um someone in the
- 19:35industry, she said that her accountant
- 19:38was like, "You need to go buy a car.
- 19:40like you need to go do that. So because
- 19:42she was earning too much so he was like
- 19:44you need to have a deduction.
- 19:46>> Look I think my advice in general would
- 19:48be for the girls to really pay attention
- 19:50on everything that they doing. Track
- 19:52your money all your income all your
- 19:53expenses. Even if you don't use a
- 19:55professional just do on a piece of paper
- 19:58on a simple spreadsheet pay your taxes.
- 20:01Do the right thing because if you
- 20:02started doing the right thing at the
- 20:04early stage of your career you just send
- 20:06yourself for extra sex in the future.
- 20:09Definitely. Totally agree.
- 20:10>> That one thing that I learned as well is
- 20:12like I went to go buy put money down for
- 20:15a house at one point or look into it and
- 20:17she's like you've got no income cuz it
- 20:19was all cash. So putting it aside.
- 20:22>> Yeah, definitely. And like getting out
- 20:24of the mindset of like we hate tax.
- 20:26Taxes tax means you're earning money.
- 20:29>> Exactly.
- 20:30>> And you pay it and you know that that
- 20:32money that's saved, whatever that's
- 20:33left, you can do something about it
- 20:35instead of just wasting purchase.
- 20:37>> Yeah. Because No one's going to like you
- 20:39can't get a bank loan if you just have
- 20:40cash. You can't and that means no car,
- 20:42no house, and you want to work in the
- 20:45strip club. Like you really need to make
- 20:46the most of that time. You don't want to
- 20:48be like 5 years in and go, oh, all I
- 20:50have is cash and now I want to leave the
- 20:53industry. You're like, I need to do
- 20:55something with it to make sure that I'm
- 20:56set up. We always end our podcast asking
- 21:00some what's something that nobody knows
- 21:02about you. It's like just it can be any
- 21:06quirk, anything. Um, simple,
- 21:08extravagant.
- 21:09>> I have to think about it now.
- 21:13>> Truly stumped with this.
- 21:15>> Okay. Maybe I haven't told anyone that I
- 21:17like to listen to true crime podcast.
- 21:21>> Right before you go to bed as well.
- 21:23>> No, no, when I'm cleaning the house.
- 21:24>> Yeah.
- 21:25>> It's more about the investigation side
- 21:27of it, not the killing.
- 21:30>> Thank you so much for coming on today.
- 21:32Your information and your services are
- 21:34going to be so helpful to all the girls.
- 21:36So, thank you.
- 21:37>> How can they reach out to you? Oh, yes.
- 21:39At the moment, I have the Instagram
- 21:40page, herbooks.au
- 21:43or just an email contact at
- 21:45herbooks.com.au.
- 21:46>> Thanks everyone for watching. If you can
- 21:48like, follow and subscribe, it means we
- 21:50can bring you more episodes. So, thanks
- 21:53again.
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