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  1. 0:00Hey everyone, and thanks for jumping
  2. 0:02back into the equity verse. Today we're
  3. 0:05going to talk about the S&P 500 as it
  4. 0:08has once again made new all-time highs.
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  24. 0:50ahead and jump in. So the S&P
  25. 0:53is now at 7750. So, this is still very
  26. 0:56much in line with how a lot of these
  27. 0:59midterm years play out. In fact, one of
  28. 1:02the things that we've talked about a lot
  29. 1:05is how we would likely see new all-time
  30. 1:08highs by the S&P going into sort of the
  31. 1:11August time frame that even could extend
  32. 1:14into September. And so, what we what we
  33. 1:17should realize is how has it played out
  34. 1:21in prior midterm years? When did we
  35. 1:23actually start to see corrections? Now,
  36. 1:25as a reminder, and I say this basically
  37. 1:27in every video I do on stocks, I
  38. 1:31buy index funds essentially monthly, and
  39. 1:34I don't concern myself too much with
  40. 1:36exactly where we are because it's really
  41. 1:39hard to time the market. Even though,
  42. 1:42you know, a lot of these corrections
  43. 1:44were during periods of weakness, they
  44. 1:46should in generally in general be used
  45. 1:49to figure out when to buy rather than
  46. 1:51when to sell in my opinion. But in this
  47. 1:54case, I want to talk about kind of where
  48. 1:56we are right now and are things aligning
  49. 2:00in the same way they have in prior
  50. 2:03midterm years. So, right now it's August
  51. 2:054th. The S&P is making new all-time
  52. 2:08highs. Once again, that is sort of the
  53. 2:10the base case that the stock market is
  54. 2:12is it heading to new all-time highs. But
  55. 2:15let's go take a look at when we got
  56. 2:17these corrections in prior midterm years
  57. 2:19and see, you know, if it if it might
  58. 2:22line up once again. So, if you go back
  59. 2:25to 2014, for instance, you'll see that
  60. 2:28the S&P got a correction um in in about
  61. 2:33what September. It started September
  62. 2:35about midepptember
  63. 2:38of 2014. It was about a 10% drop about a
  64. 2:4210% drop. Now, if you look at the day
  65. 2:46in which the top occurred, right, if we
  66. 2:48want to really nail down the day, and
  67. 2:50again, we shouldn't expect it to happen
  68. 2:51on the same day either way, but it
  69. 2:53started on September 19th. September
  70. 2:5719th. In 2018,
  71. 3:00when did the correction start?
  72. 3:03It started in September,
  73. 3:06but in this case, September 21st
  74. 3:10with a lower high on October 3rd. But it
  75. 3:13started technically
  76. 3:16September 21st. So you have September
  77. 3:2021st
  78. 3:22in 2018.
  79. 3:24And in 2014,
  80. 3:27if you go look at um uh 2014, you have
  81. 3:31September 19th. So
  82. 3:35mid to late September, right? So you
  83. 3:38have
  84. 3:40September 19th, September 21st. Now in
  85. 3:452022, it was different. In 2022, we were
  86. 3:48actually in a bare market and the top
  87. 3:50ended up occurring on August 16th,
  88. 3:53right? You can see that. And then we had
  89. 3:54a lower high on September 12th and then
  90. 3:56we ended up bottoming out in in about
  91. 3:58mid October. So that in that case it was
  92. 4:00actually mid August. So August 16th. So
  93. 4:04you have three midterm years.
  94. 4:07Right? You have three midterm years. And
  95. 4:10in all three cases, the stock market had
  96. 4:14about a 10 to 20% drop. Right? In 2014,
  97. 4:18it was 10%, in 2018, it was 20%. And in
  98. 4:212022, it was in fact around 20%.
  99. 4:25So, where we are right now, the S&P is
  100. 4:29putting in new highs. Okay. Well, the
  101. 4:32only time it wasn't really putting in
  102. 4:34new highs at this point in the midterm
  103. 4:36year was in the 2022 bare market when it
  104. 4:39was going up, but it wasn't putting in
  105. 4:40new highs because we were actually in a
  106. 4:41bare market, right? Whereas the S&P in
  107. 4:432026 has been in a bull market. In 2018,
  108. 4:47you can see the S&P was pushing to new
  109. 4:49highs throughout all of August and even
  110. 4:51going into September. If you look at
  111. 4:542014 again, you can see that it was
  112. 4:57pushing to new all-time highs uh in in
  113. 4:59August and September. So, what you're
  114. 5:02seeing happen right now in the stock
  115. 5:03market is is actually really similar to
  116. 5:05what we've seen previously happen in the
  117. 5:06stock market in midterm years. And this
  118. 5:08is why when we talked about this phase
  119. 5:13up here, right? When we looked at this
  120. 5:14phase up here,
  121. 5:16we said that we could very easily see
  122. 5:19new highs before the correction occurs.
  123. 5:21And the reason we said that is because
  124. 5:24the correction normally doesn't start
  125. 5:26until August or September. If we were
  126. 5:29already in the correction in late July,
  127. 5:32then the high would have actually been
  128. 5:33in early June, that would have been very
  129. 5:36different than what we've actually seen
  130. 5:38in prior midterm years in recent
  131. 5:40history. So, my argument here is that
  132. 5:44the S&P again is breaking out. um could
  133. 5:48stay bullish for a number of weeks, but
  134. 5:51that come later August or even more
  135. 5:54likely September,
  136. 5:56I think the tides could shift. Now,
  137. 6:00what is interesting about 2014 and 2018
  138. 6:06is that the correction started on
  139. 6:09September 19th and September 21st.
  140. 6:14Coincidentally,
  141. 6:16or maybe not coincidentally, the next
  142. 6:19Fed meeting is September 16th.
  143. 6:22And if you look at the probabilities
  144. 6:25right now, the probability is about a
  145. 6:29coin flip or so, right? It's about a
  146. 6:31coin flip. You're looking at about a 57%
  147. 6:34chance of a rate hike, a 43% chance that
  148. 6:38they do absolutely nothing. And
  149. 6:42what I sort of tend to think right now
  150. 6:44is that the way this could play out like
  151. 6:48it has played out in the last three
  152. 6:50midterm years would be to get a
  153. 6:53correction starting around the time of
  154. 6:55the next Fed meeting again which is
  155. 6:58about five or six weeks away about 6
  156. 7:01weeks away. And the reason I say that is
  157. 7:05because there's an argument to be had
  158. 7:08that if the Fed does raise rates at the
  159. 7:11next meeting.
  160. 7:13And remember, the first time they cut
  161. 7:14rates in 2025 was in September. The
  162. 7:16first time they cut rates in 2024 was in
  163. 7:18September. So perhaps they will raise
  164. 7:20rates in September. And a lot of people
  165. 7:22have said, "Well, they're not going to
  166. 7:22raise rates in September." And they
  167. 7:24might not. Like I don't I don't know for
  168. 7:25sure that they're going to, but I would
  169. 7:27argue that September might be a better
  170. 7:29month to do it than a week before
  171. 7:31midterms. and waiting until December
  172. 7:34might cause the bond vigilantes to just
  173. 7:37absolutely revolt if they wait until
  174. 7:39December. So
  175. 7:42if we were to get a rate hike in
  176. 7:46September, then you might see that
  177. 7:49correction occur
  178. 7:51just because people are worried. Not
  179. 7:53because the economy is necessarily
  180. 7:54crumbling, just because people are
  181. 7:56worried that the easing cycle is over
  182. 7:58and then we're going back into a a
  183. 8:00hiking cycle.
  184. 8:03If the Fed were not to raise rates in
  185. 8:06September, then the argument would
  186. 8:07simply be that the long end of the yield
  187. 8:09curve is going to go higher. You're
  188. 8:11likely going to have the 10-year yield
  189. 8:12breaking out above 5%. It's already
  190. 8:14heading in that direction now. Uh, you
  191. 8:16know, if you look at the 10ear yield,
  192. 8:17it's at 4.6%.
  193. 8:19And my guess, and we've been talking
  194. 8:21about this for a while, is that it will
  195. 8:22likely head back up to where it was in
  196. 8:24October of 2023. Note, the 30-year yield
  197. 8:28has already made it there, right? The
  198. 8:3030-year yield has already broken through
  199. 8:31where it was in October 2023. So, I
  200. 8:34think it's only a matter of time before
  201. 8:36the 10-year yield uh gets there as well.
  202. 8:39And I I think that's something important
  203. 8:40to watch here over the next couple of
  204. 8:41months. So, going back to the S&P, you
  205. 8:44know, when we think about what is the
  206. 8:46most likely outcome here,
  207. 8:49I think in the short term, you're likely
  208. 8:51going to see more or less the same
  209. 8:53stuff. The S&P is has sort of broken
  210. 8:55out. You're likely going to see this
  211. 8:57bullishness continue would my guess
  212. 8:59would be for at least a few more weeks.
  213. 9:01Um, unless we're just going completely
  214. 9:03faked out and sometime
  215. 9:07potentially in October, but I would lean
  216. 9:09towards September at this point.
  217. 9:11sometime in September
  218. 9:13getting that correction that then ushers
  219. 9:16in what I would consider to be the
  220. 9:18market cycle bottom for Bitcoin. Now,
  221. 9:21when I talk about a correction in stocks
  222. 9:23that will likely occur starting in
  223. 9:25August or September, I'm saying it
  224. 9:26starts then. I'm not saying it finishes
  225. 9:28then. So, for instance, in 2018, it
  226. 9:33would have been objectively true that
  227. 9:35the stock market would have started
  228. 9:36correcting in September because that's
  229. 9:38when it topped. But would it have become
  230. 9:41obvious to everyone by early October?
  231. 9:44No. The correction did not finish until
  232. 9:47December.
  233. 9:49In 2014, if you said that the stock
  234. 9:52market would start a correction around
  235. 9:54September, would you have been right?
  236. 9:57Yeah, you would have been. Because when
  237. 9:59you look at at where the stock market
  238. 10:01was on September 20 or sorry, September,
  239. 10:04what was it? 19th. September 19th, it
  240. 10:06was at all-time highs, but it in it
  241. 10:09didn't bottom out until about
  242. 10:10mid-occtober. And in 2022, when the
  243. 10:13stock market found a high in mid August,
  244. 10:17the low wasn't set again until
  245. 10:19midocctober. So the argument to be made
  246. 10:22here in my opinion is that if the
  247. 10:26correction occurs in the same way it did
  248. 10:28in the last three midterm years, while
  249. 10:32the correction would start more than
  250. 10:33likely in September or potentially as
  251. 10:36early as August, while it would start in
  252. 10:38September, it probably wouldn't be over
  253. 10:40in September. It could go into o it
  254. 10:42could go into October. It could go into
  255. 10:44November. And if it does what 2018 did,
  256. 10:46it could even go into December.
  257. 10:50If you look at the year-to- date ROI
  258. 10:54of the stock market in 2026 and compare
  259. 10:58that to 2014,
  260. 11:01you can see that the the correction that
  261. 11:03I'm talking about didn't occur until
  262. 11:05like later on in September. You see
  263. 11:07that? And if you compare it to 2018,
  264. 11:11you can see the correction did not start
  265. 11:13again until uh until September, but it
  266. 11:16wasn't obvious to people until October.
  267. 11:18And in 2022, it's going to look a little
  268. 11:20bit different because we were in a bare
  269. 11:21market, but you can see it didn't start
  270. 11:23until about mid August. So, if you were
  271. 11:26to average out
  272. 11:28the last three midterm years, let's call
  273. 11:312022, 2018, 2014,
  274. 11:35and look at where the S&P is, you can
  275. 11:38see that we're actually a bit higher
  276. 11:40than we normally are on average, but
  277. 11:42that the window of weakness on average
  278. 11:45doesn't really start until about that
  279. 11:47mid August to September time frame. So,
  280. 11:50we're seeing new new all-time highs
  281. 11:52right now. Again, I don't ever sell my
  282. 11:55index funds. Um, happy to see the stock
  283. 11:58market go higher, but I would argue that
  284. 12:00when we do get that drop, I think it
  285. 12:02would probably just be another another
  286. 12:04opportunity uh for those that that want
  287. 12:06to get in. We've had plenty of them um
  288. 12:09throughout the last several years and
  289. 12:12and this would likely just be one more.
  290. 12:15So, we'll see if that actually comes to
  291. 12:17pass or not. I mean,
  292. 12:19time is is kind of the uh the issue here
  293. 12:23in the short term of like, you know, in
  294. 12:24the short term S&Ps breaking out to new
  295. 12:26highs, that could very well continue for
  296. 12:29a number of weeks. Uh so, we're not
  297. 12:31going to really get an answer out our
  298. 12:32question until a couple of months from
  299. 12:34now. And we'll either be looking back
  300. 12:35and saying, "All right, well, the S&P
  301. 12:37found a local top in August or
  302. 12:39September, or it didn't." And my guess
  303. 12:41is that it will. Um, but the thing I
  304. 12:44would caution people to about trying to
  305. 12:46time the markets too much is let's say
  306. 12:49you get a 10% drop, right? And you're
  307. 12:51waiting for that. There's always a
  308. 12:52chance that the 10% drop is to a lower
  309. 12:54is to a higher price than where you
  310. 12:56could have just bought in the first
  311. 12:58place. Okay? So, it's important to
  312. 12:59remember that I'm I'm primarily using
  313. 13:02the S&P in this case to try to
  314. 13:05understand when Bitcoin's
  315. 13:07theoretical market cycle bottom would in
  316. 13:10fact be. And normally the market cycle
  317. 13:14bottom for Bitcoin
  318. 13:16occurs in the in the correction the
  319. 13:19stock market that occurs in the back
  320. 13:20half of the year. So in 2022, the stock
  321. 13:25market had a correction early on, but it
  322. 13:26wasn't until the second correction that
  323. 13:28Bitcoin bottomed. In 2018, the stock
  324. 13:31market had a big correction early on,
  325. 13:32but it wasn't until the second
  326. 13:33correction that Bitcoin bottomed. And in
  327. 13:352014,
  328. 13:37the stock market had a small correction
  329. 13:41um early on in the year, but it wasn't
  330. 13:43until the the larger correction that
  331. 13:45occurred later, which was to a higher
  332. 13:46low, but a larger correction by
  333. 13:47percentage. It wasn't until that
  334. 13:49correction that Bitcoin actually
  335. 13:50bottomed. And so the argument is that we
  336. 13:54are simply repeating the last three
  337. 13:57midterm years. We already have the
  338. 14:00original correction in the beginning of
  339. 14:012026, right? Like you can see we have
  340. 14:03it. So you have, if you were to label
  341. 14:05these, you have one, one, one, your
  342. 14:07first correction. And in each case, you
  343. 14:09have a second correction that doesn't
  344. 14:12really kick off until mid August at the
  345. 14:15earliest or late September at the
  346. 14:19latest. And so that's the argument that
  347. 14:22this is going to play out probably in
  348. 14:24the same way that it has in the last
  349. 14:26three midterm years. And again, I'm just
  350. 14:29sort of a big believer. And if it's not
  351. 14:30broke, don't fix it. All right. Now, if
  352. 14:34you look at the S&P, it has um you know,
  353. 14:37basically it went sideways for a little
  354. 14:39while, found support near the bull
  355. 14:41market support band, and then went ahead
  356. 14:42and moved up. Um I was actually looking
  357. 14:46at this this this pattern. We've
  358. 14:48actually seen something like this before
  359. 14:49on the Bitcoin chart. Like if you look
  360. 14:50at the Bitcoin chart, you can see
  361. 14:53remember last year when Bitcoin, you
  362. 14:56know, it came below here, consolidated,
  363. 14:58went up, and then went sideways until
  364. 14:59almost the bull market support band
  365. 15:01caught up, and then it went up
  366. 15:03and then eventually it came back down.
  367. 15:06To me,
  368. 15:08it looks a little familiar. Like I'm not
  369. 15:11huge into fractals and whatnot because
  370. 15:14they usually don't play out um in the
  371. 15:16way that that many people think they
  372. 15:18will. But if you were to simply overlay
  373. 15:22the idea, right? If you were to overlay
  374. 15:25the idea,
  375. 15:27you can kind of see like, you know, what
  376. 15:29it is I'm talking about, right? How you
  377. 15:32you you get your your low,
  378. 15:36right? like you get your low that forms
  379. 15:38and it's hard to know exactly how to
  380. 15:40line up, but you get your initial low
  381. 15:41that forms, you rally on up, you go
  382. 15:43sideways, you push up, and then
  383. 15:44eventually you get a deeper correction.
  384. 15:46And so that's the argument is that when
  385. 15:48you get a deeper correction, likely
  386. 15:51later this year that you're basically
  387. 15:54checking back in with this longer term
  388. 15:57trend line in the S&P 500. Now, I don't
  389. 15:58know if I don't know if it's going to go
  390. 15:59all the way back down to 6,000 or not,
  391. 16:01but it's a possibility. And imagine if
  392. 16:04it did. I mean, that would be a pretty
  393. 16:06brutal correction. If it did, that would
  394. 16:09very likely cause Bitcoin to lose that
  395. 16:11support that it has at at 60K. Now, if
  396. 16:15it doesn't, I could be wrong. I could be
  397. 16:17wrong. If you look at Bitcoin in 2018,
  398. 16:20remember, it held support at $6,000 for
  399. 16:23the entire year. And it wasn't until the
  400. 16:26second correction by the stock market
  401. 16:28that that actually that actually took
  402. 16:29Bitcoin down to those lows, right? So
  403. 16:31the stock market didn't even go that
  404. 16:33much lower than where it was at the
  405. 16:35beginning of the year.
  406. 16:37So if you look at the first correction
  407. 16:38it had in 2018, the stock market only
  408. 16:40went about 7 to 8% below that. But even
  409. 16:43though the stock market only went 7 to
  410. 16:458% below that, Bitcoin
  411. 16:49went about 48% below. Now if you look at
  412. 16:52Bitcoin this year, this is certainly a
  413. 16:54less volatile version of 2018, right?
  414. 16:56Right? If you look at the year-to- date
  415. 16:57ROI of Bitcoin
  416. 17:00in 2026 and look at it compared to 2018,
  417. 17:03you can see it kind of the moves kind of
  418. 17:05line up, but we haven't had, you know,
  419. 17:10that larger correction in the S&P yet
  420. 17:12that normally occurs, not even starting
  421. 17:14until August or September. Remember, I'm
  422. 17:16not saying the correction in stocks ends
  423. 17:19in September. I'm saying it could not
  424. 17:21start until September. And if you look
  425. 17:24at two of the last three stock market
  426. 17:26corrections that occurred in midterm
  427. 17:28years, they didn't start until September
  428. 17:2919th or 20th, which is around when the
  429. 17:31next Fed funds meeting is. So you could
  430. 17:34argue if they raise rates, people might
  431. 17:36panic, even though there's probably
  432. 17:37nothing to panic about. And if they
  433. 17:38don't raise rates, people might panic if
  434. 17:40inflation continues to print levels that
  435. 17:42are are somewhat concerning. And I think
  436. 17:44the the thing to watch here is just the
  437. 17:46bond market because the bond market is
  438. 17:48is where a lot of this stuff is going to
  439. 17:50play out. Does the 30-year yield
  440. 17:52continue to go higher? Does the 10-year
  441. 17:53yield continue to go higher? If yields
  442. 17:55continue to go higher for the next, say,
  443. 17:57six weeks or so, then it certainly would
  444. 18:00set up the the only narrative you would
  445. 18:02need to get sort of a secondary
  446. 18:05correction in stocks in the back half of
  447. 18:06the year, the back half of of of the
  448. 18:09midterm year. So, that is is my view
  449. 18:13here on the stock market. And also too,
  450. 18:15I mean, with the dollar, I I think the
  451. 18:16dollar, while it is down recently, I
  452. 18:18think it's just simply printing a higher
  453. 18:20low. and is likely going to continue to
  454. 18:22head back up. One interesting thing
  455. 18:24about the dollar is if you look at the
  456. 18:28the presidential return path, so
  457. 18:31basically the the way in which certain
  458. 18:32assets perform during various
  459. 18:34presidencies. If you look at first of
  460. 18:36all, if you look at the S&P in 2026,
  461. 18:39like if you look at the current S&P
  462. 18:40compared to Donald Trump's first term or
  463. 18:42his first term, we're basically at the
  464. 18:44same valuation we were back then. You
  465. 18:46know, like things are really not that
  466. 18:48different. What's also interesting is if
  467. 18:50you look at the dollar, the Dixie DXY in
  468. 18:53Trump's current term compared to 2017
  469. 18:562018, um you can see it's also tracking
  470. 18:59basically the same. And if it continues
  471. 19:01to track, then the dollar should get
  472. 19:03another move higher a little bit later
  473. 19:04on in the year, which might actually be
  474. 19:07that headwind that causes these risk
  475. 19:09assets to show weakness one more time a
  476. 19:12little bit later on in the midterm year.
  477. 19:13So again, my encouragement, again, not
  478. 19:15financial advice, but my encouragement,
  479. 19:17generally speaking, is to use this stuff
  480. 19:19to figure out kind of good opportunities
  481. 19:21to get in, not try to time things on
  482. 19:23when to sell or anything like that. I my
  483. 19:26strategy for the last five or six years,
  484. 19:28as I've mentioned, is to just buy low
  485. 19:31expense ratio index funds and hope for
  486. 19:32the best. And I mean, it works out
  487. 19:34decently well. It it works out better
  488. 19:36than a lot of people that just stock
  489. 19:38pick constantly. Um, and I do
  490. 19:40occasionally buy some stocks, but or
  491. 19:42individual stocks, but index funds with
  492. 19:43low expense ratios are, in fact, my
  493. 19:45opinion, they've been a good way to go
  494. 19:46for for a long time. So, those are my
  495. 19:49views about the stock market. We're
  496. 19:50currently at all-time highs. Usually,
  497. 19:52all-time highs just lead to new all-time
  498. 19:54highs, which I know kind of sounds
  499. 19:55weird, but it's true, right? When the
  500. 19:56stock market's putting in new all-time
  501. 19:58highs, it tends to continue to want to
  502. 20:00for a little while before that before
  503. 20:02that changes course. And if history is
  504. 20:04any indication, we won't likely see that
  505. 20:06change course until at least mid August
  506. 20:09at the earliest, but maybe not until say
  507. 20:12midepptember if it's going to play out
  508. 20:13like it did in 2014 and or 2018. If you
  509. 20:17guys like the content, make sure you
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  512. 20:21guys at the Investing Through the Cycles
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  517. 20:30next time. Bye.

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