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0:00all right good morning everybody and
0:03welcome back to true crime loser how you
0:06doing I hope you're doing well
0:08I really do all right I'm not gonna
0:11waste any time we're gonna get into this
0:12so this is part three of my Steven
0:15McDaniels coverage the troll head
0:18himself today I wanted to talk about his
0:23crazy interview that he did and kind of
0:26just talk about when killers do
0:28interviews in general TV interviews and
0:33I was thinking about I think there's two
0:36types of people that do interviews after
0:41they commit murder the first type is
0:44they're just appearing to be they're
0:46trying to appear to be innocent
0:48so they commit the murder and then right
0:50after the murder they're forced to start
0:54doing the I'm innocent little monkey
0:56dance so in their head they're
0:57constantly filtering every decision with
1:01how would an innocent person look and as
1:05we know it's real hard to do the I'm
1:07innocent monkey dance and not look
1:09stupid and to be doing that dance and
1:16having a news crew point a giant camera
1:19and zoom in in your face is just makes
1:23for unbelievably crazy clips so like I
1:27said first type of person they just want
1:30to appear innocent you know that's like
1:32the Chris Watts up there going like like
1:36if someone has them and they're not safe
1:39I just want everybody to come home I
1:44just want everybody to be safe you know
1:46he's up there and usually what happens
1:49to in these interviews is you end up
1:51doing way to you end up trying to push
1:55the narrative that you're going with way
1:57too much so in the McDaniels one he's
1:59doing a lot of like I mean no one's seen
2:03her hiyee I haven't seen her since
2:06Saturday I mean you know he's doing this
2:08like I mean just acting weird
2:12and the first type of people that are
2:16just trying to appear innocent and
2:17trying to get away with it they probably
2:20don't want to do the interview but in
2:22their head they're just thinking this
2:25you know I'm trying to appear innocent
2:27an innocent person would do this
2:29interview so therefore I'm going to do
2:31it so again I think Chris looks like he
2:34just does not want to be there just
2:36going like like I just want everybody to
2:40be safe and then the second type are the
2:47people that want to appear innocent but
2:48also they're trying to insert themselves
2:51into the narrative as to be a part of
2:55their creation I think a lot of the
2:57murderers like serial killers and stuff
2:59they they look at it is they're like
3:02painting a picture of this murder you
3:05know it's their creation and they I
3:07think almost can't help themselves
3:09by not wanting to be a part of the
3:15official story I think anything that
3:16gets into press like if Steven got away
3:19with this murder I think he ki would
3:20have sat there for the rest of his day
3:23you know looking at that clip of him
3:25being like oh no one's seen her since
3:31Saturday and just being like hey I got
3:35away with it and again he's pushing the
3:40narrative also he's really pushing the
3:42narrative that him and Lauren were
3:44friends a lot of this like yeah we you
3:47know her friend group work we don't know
3:50where she is you know we've been looking
3:52around and he even starts talking about
3:54her family and how he met her family and
3:57it's like Jesus Stephen Stephen come on
4:00Stephen I think Stephen was living out
4:08this crazy sex murder killer fantasy and
4:15like I said just couldn't help himself
4:17seeing a news crew down there and just
4:19be like I need to be you know a part of
4:22this official
4:24huh it's kind of like when killer send
4:27like a puzzle to the newspaper or
4:30something or try to get something
4:31publish like send Clues in or something
4:33I think they just want to be a part of
4:36their what they call their creation like
4:41I just want everyone to be safe okay so
4:45why it's insane to do an interview if
4:49you committed murder and it's very
4:52simple because your face and your body
4:54do strange things when you're pretending
4:57to do the monkey dance of being innocent
5:00like if you watch Chris if you watch the
5:03Chris Watts one there's times where you
5:05like closes his eyes
5:07weirdly for a while the point is is if
5:11you're gonna lie that you didn't if
5:13you're gonna lie and try to convince
5:14everyone you didn't commit murder it's
5:17probably a good idea not to let someone
5:20with a big camera zoom in and tape your
5:23face all right I think people like Chris
5:29that lie all the time
5:30think they're so good at it but in
5:33reality people that lie all the time
5:34they think they're like getting it past
5:36everyone and most of the time everyone
5:38just knows you're a liar but they don't
5:40care enough to call you out on it it's
5:44just like oh all right yeah whatever you
5:47say but but and they're not like looking
5:53usually so say like if chris watts and i
5:56are friends and he's sitting there lying
5:58to me you know when i'm not making eye
5:59contact with him the whole lie you know
6:02looking at his face I'm just like oh
6:05he's lying okay I look down I look over
6:07here okay yeah no problem man Thanks and
6:10that's the end of it but with a camera
6:14zooming in on your face it's just your
6:17face and it's being taped for eternity
6:19and you're up there like I just want
6:21them to be safe and you know Stephens up
6:25there I don't know we'll get into it
6:27just go hunt who could do something like
6:31this stay even cried too we'll get to it
6:36I'm getting there
6:38I saw singing even the best actors
6:44probably wouldn't nail a realistic
6:49interview after they just killed someone
6:52and you know actors rehearse for hours
6:56if an if Meryl Streep was doing a scene
6:58where she was crying about somebody that
7:03had been taken from her life she would
7:09rehearse for a long time and also
7:12probably not nail it on the first take
7:15and also probably not nail it while in
7:20their head trying to get away with
7:22murder I mean it the stakes are never
7:25hire for this acting you know live on
7:28camera their life's on the line they're
7:31playing for keeps and to get up there
7:34and to think you're just gonna nail a
7:35perfect take while some news person
7:38while not having any experience acting
7:40is just it shows you how delusional
7:45these killers are that they just think
7:48they're smart and they think how good of
7:50Liars they are and really it's just a
7:52troll head and a monkey boys sitting
7:54there going no one's seen them doing
7:57weird face stuff okay then the second
8:02reason other than just to appear
8:10innocent or to put themselves into the
8:12story to do one of these interviews is
8:16they attempt to get their narrative in
8:19so Chris Watts was rambling about how
8:22she could have left or how you know how
8:24she went on a play day and he doesn't
8:26know where she is
8:27and Stephen died even his narrative that
8:32he was pushing was that over and over
8:37again that maybe she went running and
8:39someone snatched her you know she runs a
8:41lot and no one's seen her so he was
8:45really pushing the she was running and
8:49someone snatched her but both Chris
8:51Stephen push it way too hard you end up
8:56just saying too much that's really you
8:58end up saying too much and doing like
9:00weird stuff with your hand like Stephen
9:02will kept pointing back every time he
9:05lied it and it's like what is back there
9:07no nothing you know he's like yeah we
9:09were both lost dude and so we can't find
9:11her and she went running and you know
9:15the whole time the people shoot in the
9:17news are just like yeah so this guy has
9:23troll hair yeah so they're trying to
9:31push the narrative that is not them
9:35murdering the people and usually end up
9:40looking like an idiot okay so let's get
9:44into Stephens actual actual interview so
9:52he starts by saying no one's seen her
9:55about 45 times okay
9:58one how do you know that no one's seen
10:01her Stephen you haven't seen her but
10:04maybe someone else is sceners diving any
10:09you know rambles about how good of a
10:12person she was and how personable she is
10:15I was funny he's it's like Stephen
10:21they're gonna talk to her friends
10:23they're gonna talk to her her real
10:25friends and they're gonna say that she
10:28wasn't friends with Stephen they're
10:31gonna say no one was really friends with
10:32Stephen but he's up there being like she
10:35was as nice as can be so lots of
10:39rambling that no one's seen her and the
10:47news people are like was there anyone
10:49does she have any Eman and enemies or
10:52does anyone want to hurt her and
10:55Stephens like I mean we don't know where
11:00she is
11:00that was his answer to is there someone
11:03that would want to hurt her and he
11:05in there just with a troll head going no
11:10one has seen her I mean I haven't seen
11:14her I mean she went running and maybe
11:18someone snatched her
11:20he uses the word snatched like six times
11:27okay and then he really hammers home the
11:33things that he has going for him in the
11:34case so we really hammers home he's like
11:37yeah I mean her friends came over and
11:40had a key so had a key that's where they
11:45got in they had a key his friends came
11:48over and had a key so there's no forced
11:50entry I think he even says that which I
11:52guess kind of makes sense because he's a
11:53lawyer so everyone's gonna think he's
11:55kind of trying to be a lawyer but and
11:58then he goes out of his way to say the
12:00door was locked when everyone got here
12:03being like whoever whatever happens the
12:06door was locked so there was no struggle
12:08no forced entry and the door was locked
12:11and then we get to the infamous part
12:16where the news lady goes you know did
12:19you hear up that they found like a body
12:23and stive in goes body
12:33I think I need to sit down and he goes
12:37over and plops down and I think a lot of
12:40people are gonna disagree with me a lot
12:42on this a lot of people think that the
12:44body and that the whole thing of going
12:48to sit down is genuine I've watched it a
12:52bunch of times and I don't think that
12:55it's genuine I think that that's his bad
12:57acting I can spot bad acting a mile away
13:02okay I did a I did I did a pilot for MTV
13:08okay I worked with MTV I know bad acting
13:12all right and it's almost like you know
13:18when one of those movies is so bad
13:22it turns awesome it's like troll two is
13:25one and then whatever the movie that the
13:27disaster artist is about that's the type
13:30of acting as it looks like like in the
13:31movie where the killer finds the body
13:34and the body can't you picture just like
13:37a whole movie theater of like a cult bad
13:41b-movie and the star goes body and
13:44everyone cheers favorite part here's why
13:49I don't think it was real cuz if
13:50anyone's not surprised that there's a
13:52body in the trash it's Steven just Ivan
13:56put the body there and sorry I got a
14:03text and so I you know he of course he's
14:09not he's gonna be the least surprised
14:11that there's a body in the trash because
14:13he just put a body in the trash and I
14:16mean I'm sure he's real bummed that they
14:18didn't find it but I think that I don't
14:22think that that news wouldn't make him
14:24actually need to sit down I mean he just
14:28dismembered a body with a saw in a
14:32bathtub a few days before so someone
14:35that can pull that off doesn't need to
14:37sit down when they hear that there's a
14:39body I think that he launched into
14:43pretending I'm innocent that was his
14:46little monkey dance
14:47could be
14:47wrong I'm just a dude on YouTube you
14:50know but I really think that that's his
14:53body just his bad acting and then is
14:59where the this is where the interview
15:01just goes into crazy land
15:05it's just crazy after that whole body
15:09and then having to go sit down and after
15:11everything that he said already and he's
15:14already set I mean like 40 times he
15:17comes back he comes back and he starts a
15:23lie cry
15:26we got a lie cry people official lie cry
15:29I didn't know how long it would take to
15:32stumble in to another one but if you
15:34haven't been following the channel what
15:36a lie cry is it's where you're lying but
15:39also you're crying the cry lie was it a
15:42cry lie or a lie crack doesn't matter
15:44you're crying
15:46but also you're lying it's not a good
15:49place to be in it really isn't
15:51if if you find yourself like crying it's
15:55probably time to just take a deep breath
15:58and just start apologizing to everyone
16:01around you and just face the music it's
16:04not a good place to be in but we got a
16:07lie cry and so it's just nuts that he
16:10comes back and is crying and going who
16:15do this maybe if I heard something I
16:19could have a helped it's like Steven why
16:26are you crying
16:27that's why I wanted to be the whole
16:29that's why I wanted to say the whole
16:31time is diving diving the [ __ ] are you
16:35crying for listen I've had a look I like
16:39my neighbours all water their plants all
16:42pet their cat and feed their dog while
16:45they're gone I'll check their place you
16:48know but if my neighbors died I'd just
16:51be like man that sucks you know dang
16:56that is rough I hope they went down
16:58fighting you know I I wouldn't cry
17:01and he sit there going who it is
17:05and it's again the cops they're gonna
17:06talk to her friends and they're gonna be
17:08like Stephen didn't really ever hang out
17:12with her well why is he crying maybe I
17:20could have helped it's just like what
17:24are you doing Stephen go in your
17:26apartment and figure out how you're
17:28gonna get rid of the key to her
17:30apartment and her underwear sitting
17:34there cly crying this might be - I heard
17:37that
17:38what part of this interview was live so
17:40people this is big this is a possible
17:43live cry lie I don't know if that has
17:49ever been done before just a live cry
17:51lie anyway bah bah bah yeah he's the
17:59nicest person that there is and he
18:04rambles on all the hot the most cringe
18:06part of the whole interview he starts
18:07rambling on about her family like how we
18:13met him once and just what a creep job
18:19you know why would anyone do this maybe
18:24if I heard something that could have
18:25helped said that a bunch of times maybe
18:30it sounded like yeah he just was trying
18:32to make it sound like they're best
18:34friends like you know a lot of we and
18:36I'm in her friend group and I was
18:42thinking before I even watch the
18:45interview last night is I don't know
18:52after doing Russell Williams and now him
18:55I think if you're a female and you live
18:57alone you got to get yourself a dog you
19:01know get yourself a 50 pound you know 50
19:0460 pound dog that's gonna bark if it
19:06hears a noise and you're good it's worth
19:11it you know that's what we that's what
19:13us humans have used
19:14for for hundreds and hundreds of years
19:19of just like alright Fido we're going to
19:23bed so if you if a bear comes or if
19:26something scary comes out of the woods
19:28you bark like hell and let us know and
19:30we'll come out with you know we'll come
19:32out with weapons and save the day but
19:34your job is to let us know and the dogs
19:36like yeah yeah they love it I can't help
19:41but think if Steven started coming
19:44through that door and a in a fifty pound
19:46dog barked a few times I think the door
19:48would have just closed and locked and he
19:50would have been out of there and staying
19:51with same with Russell you know and then
19:55so I'm thinking about that just be like
19:58god I'm getting my daughter if I ever
20:00had one a dog and get it get it like if
20:02you don't feel like raising a puppy get
20:04a seventy five to seven-year-old dog
20:06they'll be totally trained all they want
20:09to do is sit there and just guard you
20:11basically so I was thinking about that
20:15and then I started watching the
20:16interview and he actually tells a story
20:19about how Lauren had a dog and it got
20:21hit by a car and I was like damn so he
20:27even knew that she she even knew that
20:29she wouldn't have had a dog that was
20:31gonna bark that's like living next to a
20:35troll face for that long it's just
20:39nothing good is gonna happen from that
20:46okay where am I
20:48oh yeah he tried to insert her boyfriend
20:51they were like do they have a boyfriend
20:52and he's like he's like crying like and
20:55then he immediately stops crying was
20:57like yeah she has a boyfriend in Atlanta
20:59and we're trying to talk see if he's
21:01seen her she's trying to you know get
21:04everybody looking everywhere else I
21:07mentioned she thought oh yeah you know
21:11just a terrifying part that to me shows
21:16that this wasn't just to appear to be
21:18innocent that he wanted he wanted to you
21:24know get over on all of us and to be
21:26like I did the interview he
21:28like rambling and cry lying about how
21:32somewhat she has she had told her
21:34friends that she had thought that
21:35someone had been in her apartment which
21:37it's obvious least Ivan and he's like
21:42like I wish I would have lend her a
21:44handgun that I have for protection it's
21:48like the only person the only troll hair
21:50that she needs protection from is you
21:53so put your gun down and just keep your
21:57hands to yourself porn boy and then he
22:03has this line that's like if she's
22:04scared in her apartment then get her out
22:06of the apartment and it's like yeah yes
22:09Steven that's what we all wish would
22:11have happened and then I had forgotten
22:15this until I watched the interview but
22:21this he killed her the lap the day
22:23before she was gonna move out
22:25so I think that supports my theory that
22:31he didn't want to lose her and he didn't
22:33want anyone else to have her and he
22:35wanted kind of their stories to be
22:37married for the rest of time and this
22:40was the only way to do it and I think he
22:42freaked out and was living this crazy
22:43murderer lawyer I'm gonna get away with
22:49the perfect murder fantasy and it's just
22:54it's just tough to do that yes that's
23:00all I got that interview is just crazy
23:04it's just I can't imagine I can't even
23:07believe that it exists him crying and
23:11saying that if he heard something he
23:13could have held it's just mind-blowing
23:15that he did it one last thing that I
23:18wanted to talk about in this video
23:20someone had left a comment or there's
23:22been a couple comments saying that the
23:27way that he dismembered the body with
23:29the saw is gonna leave so much blood
23:31splatter and so much just material
23:35that's going to be impossible to clean
23:37up that that alone is going to be almost
23:41impossible
23:42to get you know to get away with the
23:45murder and that was one of the most you
23:48know they're looking around her
23:49apartment that there's no forced entry
23:50and no anything they haven't found her
23:52body yet so they're like I don't know is
23:54this even a crime and then it was
23:57finally seeing the bathtub where it just
24:00looks like a blood bath where they are
24:04like all right you know something grisly
24:06happened but it reminded me someone was
24:08like you know how would you dismember a
24:10body like that and think you're gonna
24:13get away with it I reminded me of a case
24:15in 2000 I think my UK people will
24:19remember this case it's Lucy Blackmon
24:23who was a pretty blond woman with long
24:28blonde hair was having money trouble in
24:32the UK and she learned that you could go
24:38if you're a pretty blond girl you can go
24:41to Japan and make a bunch of money being
24:43a hostess so it's not like a prostitute
24:46but you work in a hostess club and rich
24:50Japanese men pay to sort of just hang
24:54out with you to flirt with you and you
24:58know I'm not gonna get into it but Lucy
25:01ends up dead and the same thing is this
25:03crazy rich Japanese guy cuts her up with
25:08the same type of saw right dismembers
25:11are with the same type of saw and in
25:14Japan they have very little violent
25:17crime and the crime that they do have
25:20it's just part of the culture that the
25:21person admits it immediately there it's
25:24just no one it's not like America where
25:29everybody tries to weasel out of it and
25:32there's a lot of cunning you know it's
25:34just like everybody admits it so the
25:36Japanese police were not ready for a
25:38cunning rich murderer that wasn't going
25:42to admit to it and so this just turns
25:44into the whole trial and everything
25:45turns into this giant fiasco right
25:49and the defense team he's arguing that
25:54there's no way that you could dismember
25:57a body in an apartment and not have any
26:03blood and splatter or anything because
26:05they're the prosecution's arguing that
26:07he cut her up in her in his apartment
26:09but there's no splatter or anything and
26:13what's crazy is the prosecution figured
26:17out that he had bought in a bunch of
26:19camping supplies like a few days prior
26:23to when they think that he dismembered
26:27the body so the prosecution team went
26:30and bought the same tent that he bought
26:32and they bought a dead pig just this is
26:37crazy and they filled the dead pig
26:39because a dead pig like they take all
26:40the fluids out they fill the dead pig
26:43with water with red food coloring or
26:46something red and they bring it into the
26:50tent zip up the tent
26:51dismiss the [ __ ] lawyers dismember
26:54this pig inside the tent and prove that
26:57it's possible to cut to dismember a body
27:00inside a tent and not have the blood get
27:03out into the apartment isn't that crazy
27:05there's a whole book about it I'll
27:07probably do a video on this story
27:11there's a book about it a really long
27:13like if you can get past the really dry
27:15first chunk it's a really good book but
27:17it's called the people who eat darkness
27:20and it's just about this insane Lucy
27:22Blackmon case if you're from UK and you
27:25actually remember that case let me know
27:27I would be very interested but anyway
27:30that wraps up the video for today with
27:34Stephen thanks for subscribing everybody
27:36I love you all
27:38true crime loser out

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