Stephen McDaniel FULL Police Interrogation — Transcript

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7. 0:26now enough rambling let's get into it [Music]  thank you all right brother all right brother
8. 0:43all right I just got to ask you a few more  questions oh you came down earlier than I mean
9. 0:51you talked all right you don't have any weapons  on you do you no that's just you are what's wrong
10. 0:57you don't detective Patterson right yes do you  remember put your hands up here you remember us
11. 1:02talking earlier tonight right you remember me  earlier in the day yes we came down here and
12. 1:10talked a little bit and then we left yes  okay I need to know about this girl right
13. 1:16here you know her yeah who is that Lauren  gettings does she live next door to you yes
14. 1:26when's the last time you seen  her two or three weeks ago
15. 1:31okay was you friends with Lauren yes  look at me and taught me son okay
16. 1:38was you friends with her yes close friends we were  good I mean y'all were friends right both of y'all
17. 1:44were all students are starting to be an attorney  right yes what kind of law do you want to go into
18. 1:49criminal law yes is that what you want to do for  a living yes okay are you almost finished yes okay
19. 1:57so you don't have too much more to do right no no  all right are you gonna stay here and make them I
20. 2:04don't know did you used to work at the District  Attorney's Office in Macon yes yes was you on
21. 2:09the prosecutor side or the defense side prosecuted  so you on our side right you never worked on the
22. 2:17other side no did you like it when you were down  there yes uh got along with everybody yes okay
23. 2:26and you live next to Lauren for a long time yes  yes do you know where she's at tonight you know
24. 2:35have you ever seen her with that dress  on no you have no idea where she's at no
25. 2:54[Music]
26. 2:55yes
27. 3:08oh okay uh my major didn't do  that but okay all right all right
28. 3:16look just tell me what happened brother  I don't know well where's she at I need
29. 3:24you I'm asking you for your help I'm a  detective and I'm asking you for your help
30. 3:31okay I'm asking you for help I  need your help can you help me
31. 3:37I don't know you don't know if you can help me yes  I need your help help me out tell me what to do
32. 3:47has anybody asked you for help today I need  you I'm asking you as a friend for help
33. 3:57can you help me I don't know what do you mean you  don't know you can't help a friend out I don't
34. 4:05know what you need I need to know where Lawrence I  am I don't know when's the last time you seen her
35. 4:11two or three weeks ago has anybody have you ever  seen anybody over her house last couple nights
36. 4:21if you knew where she was would you tell me yes
37. 4:27what do you think happened to her
38. 4:37do you even care that no one can find yes
39. 4:43I mean I don't know do you yes
40. 4:53you have a girlfriend no
41. 4:57did you think Lauren was your girlfriend no
42. 5:06I mean
43. 5:09you said you didn't have any other cars right  right well why would your everybody you went to
44. 5:15school with for the last three and four years said  that you own another car other than that geoprism
45. 5:24everybody I've talked to all you friends  you were in school with people that you
46. 5:29worked at the District Attorney's office with  said you have other cars other than that car
47. 5:34and you're gonna sit here today and tell me you  don't have another car I don't well where's it at
48. 5:40I don't have one you never had another car  besides that geoprism yeah so if I call
49. 5:46your granddaddy he's going to tell me that you  only have one car yes what's his phone number
50. 5:53I don't know yeah because I already have a  moment you don't know his phone number no
51. 6:04hmm
52. 6:10I mean you seriously can't help us  out his number is in my cell phone
53. 6:16where's the best so start where's your cell  phone at the apartment in your apartment
54. 6:22I mean it's kind of late to be calling  him does he stay up late I don't know
55. 6:29do you have a grandmother or just him my  grandmother passed away a while back yes
56. 6:37but you're close to your grandfather right yes  I mean don't he own some property or something
57. 6:43he said a couple of Acres my granddaddy or  my grandfather who lives in Pike County my
58. 6:52granddaddy does he own any land down there  yes okay okay and just sometimes you go down
59. 6:57to visit him or something last time we met I  went down and visited with my aunt and uncle
60. 7:05what did he do for a living was he an  attorney like you're he worked for the
61. 7:11Southern Railroad Company does anybody in  your family an attorney no you're the only
62. 7:16one that went through law school yes well  that's an accomplishment don't you think
63. 7:22yes I mean it took a long time  right yes a lot of a lot of studying
64. 7:36I think you told me earlier you were from  up Atlanta or did you live in Atlanta or
65. 7:41Griffin or something like that Lilburn  you don't have any family left up there
66. 7:46yes well who lives up there my parents okay any  brothers or sisters my sister lives in Tucker
67. 7:55Georgia yes what's up with a pair of  underwear that was in your apartment
68. 8:01it was like a mask it was cut out like a mask do  you you cut underwear out it looked like a mask no
69. 8:11how many guns did you have in your apartment  three what are they do you know what they are
70. 8:18a rifle what got a rifle did you have an  AK semi-automatic where'd you buy it from
71. 8:26Classic Arms is that Atlanta or something online  okay what kind of pistols are you on EAA Witness
72. 8:36full size and compact oh God what is that what  about the one that was on the bed that's the full
73. 8:44size that's the full size one where's the what  was the other one the compact where was that at on
74. 8:50the table by the bed yeah remember I was in there  then you had that samurai sword yes that was just
75. 8:59a I mean that's not is an expensive sword or it's  just a knockoff it's just one of those knock-off
76. 9:04swords yes and what about the knife the big  one that was remember you showed me it was dull
77. 9:11yes what kind of life is that because I don't  know kukri so where do you get something like that
78. 9:18online I bought it from a friend did you have any  other knives in the house yes that I didn't see
79. 9:26because you didn't show me no other knives that's  the only one you showed me what other knives did
80. 9:29I miss there's a pocket knife that's on the table  are you a knife collector or a knife person or no
81. 9:37you just like knives I used to collect swords I  mean do you know your swords yeah I mean to sell
82. 9:44and trade swords no but you just bought here and  there yes but you wouldn't consider yourself like
83. 9:51a sword expert no because you know they have  that TV show where they sell stuff you know
84. 9:58at night yeah on TV with I don't know what it's  called The Knife shop or something like that
85. 10:05have you ever seen what I'm talking about I  don't know if you have cable TV or not all right
86. 10:15you know tonight
87. 10:20we're still looking for Lauren you know any  of these other girls in this picture okay
88. 10:29I know that she goes to the law  school and I can't remember her
89. 10:33name so she's studying to be an attorney too yes
90. 10:39is that how Lauren looked with the  long hair the last time you've seen her
91. 10:43yes that's how she looks yes
92. 10:56oh this was in 2010.
93. 11:08hmm
94. 11:14who do you think took Lauren away  I don't know well I need your help
95. 11:22can you give me some what what is your observation  of this I know you're smarter okay I know you have
96. 11:34an observation you can tell me what's what do you  think happened to her I think someone took her
97. 11:45if you think
98. 11:48I mean you watch TV shows right like you  take the shows what's your observation
99. 11:53how do you think somebody would  take her if somebody did take her
100. 11:57when she was running [Music] does she normally run  all the time she runs I don't know how often you
101. 12:07mean you think somebody might have took her when  she was running like down the street somewhere yes
102. 12:15you don't think somebody got her when she  got back to her apartment I don't know
103. 12:23well you know there was a body found  in the trash can next to the apartments
104. 12:27yes you do know that and it's  a female white female's body
105. 12:33right hand right next to y'all's  apartment feet within from her apartment
106. 12:44I mean
107. 12:48we don't know 100 sure it's Lauren  but we're pretty confident it is
108. 12:55we'll wait for some tests to be done to be 100  sure I mean who would who would do something with
109. 13:04somebody throw them in a trash can I don't know  I'm asking for your advice or your observation
110. 13:11who in your complex would do something like  that you live over there for three years
111. 13:18that's tonight's the first night I think I've  ever been over there and your expert opinion
112. 13:26of all your knowledge are going through law  school and all that who in that complex do
113. 13:33I need to talk to I don't know no names come  to mind you can't help me out a little bit huh
114. 13:46you can't help me out I don't  know you don't know anybody
115. 13:53at all
116. 13:56that lives in that complex you know earlier you  told me about a guy that lives in apartment 15.
117. 14:04I mean he's a decent guy I think so don't y'all  have a laundry room there or something yeah
118. 14:12but everybody has access to the laundry  room yes has anybody been working on the
119. 14:19apartments below you in the last couple  weeks that you've noticed seen anyone
120. 14:28but you don't you don't know if they've been  doing work on that apartment number one no
121. 14:39I mean earlier today me and you sit here  and talk normal what's going on with you now
122. 14:43why are you acting like this I need to know  why all of a sudden you're acting like this
123. 14:50hmm I don't understand okay earlier  today we sat here and talked
124. 14:59but now you're acting like you  don't know what's going on hmm
125. 15:09when did something happen or something to you
126. 15:14I mean why are you not why are you  shutting down why are you not talking to me
127. 15:19I don't know you don't know are you scared no
128. 15:27I mean you're not scared are you no
129. 15:31are you sad that something happened  alarm if that's her in that trash can yes
130. 15:44once last time you you said you can't remember  the last time earlier today that you took the
131. 15:49trash out to the trash can right am I wrong  that's right I mean because you said you liked
132. 15:56stayed inside the whole the whole weekend I think  because you had all your food and all that you
133. 16:03never went to Kroger over the weekend or Walmart  or anything I don't remember but you could have
134. 16:14when you go to Kroger when you do go  to the store to get your food do you
135. 16:18use a credit card or you pay cash cash  do you have a Kroger card yes okay so
136. 16:26the crowler card should be able to tell if  you were at Kroger this weekend right yes
137. 16:37do you swipe your card and just enter your  cell phone number let's scan it well because
138. 16:43I enter my phone number because I  can't never remember Brian mccarth
139. 16:50but you don't remember if you went over the bank  you drive your car or you walk over there I drive
140. 16:56if you ever go to Walmart on Easter the  Great Highway or which Walmart do you go
141. 17:01to when you go to Walmart Gray Highway  you don't ever go out to Zebulon Road
142. 17:06I don't think so you know I've been out there  you know where Zeppelin wrote the new Walmart
143. 17:12no you know so you just basically  go to the long Railway yes
144. 17:18okay do you know where you're at tonight  yes where are you at detective Bureau okay
145. 17:29and you know why we've been working all day trying  to find Lauren right yes because her family wants
146. 17:36to know where she's at yes and I don't know  what to tell her family so I'm asking you what
147. 17:43do I need to tell her family I don't know but  what do you want me to tell them I don't know
148. 17:51um
149. 17:53you're gonna have to tell me what to tell the  family it's all on you brother well he wanted
150. 18:00me to tell the family huh I don't know  well I need to know I need to know okay
151. 18:15if something happened to Lauren  and you know you need to tell me
152. 18:21if you know something because I need to  know because their families down here
153. 18:29want to know what happened to her I don't know
154. 18:38you don't know no that's what you want  me to tell her mother and her father
155. 18:43that you don't know I don't know not that  you're sorry that she's missing I thought
156. 18:49you've been trying to help me all day find her  but you just wanted me to tell her I don't know
157. 18:55I don't know are you a sorry piece of  shit that you want me to tell her that
158. 19:02you got your ass on that fucking news stood out  there and gave a media report that her mother saw
159. 19:13about her missing daughter
160. 19:17and you want me to sit there and  tell them that you don't know
161. 19:22is that what you want me to tell  them because you're all over the news
162. 19:28you sure stood out there and ran your mouth to  the news media but now you're going to get out
163. 19:33here and you don't fucking know you know you're  just a sorry piece of shit that don't give a fuck
164. 19:44right yeah Well why'd you  tell the media everything
165. 19:49do you need to see what you told the media today  it was on 11 o'clock news while I'm asking you
166. 19:56tell me I want to know I don't know where  she is that ain't what you told the media
167. 20:07you didn't stand in front of that camera and  say I don't know I don't know I don't know
168. 20:24right you buy all these weapons  was you ever in the military no
169. 20:33what do you need all these weapons for  are you scared somebody's gonna hurt you
170. 20:37no what do you need all these weapons  for to have why there's a reason why
171. 20:45were you molested as a child no then  why do you need all these weapons
172. 20:52why give me one good reason [Music] Just Give Me  One Reason why does it make you feel important no
173. 21:04hmm are you a big guy because you got a  weapon no do you even know how to use it yes
174. 21:14I need you to tell me what  you want me to tell her mother
175. 21:18and that I won't ask you another thing I'm  not going to tell her mother that you don't
176. 21:22know because her mother saw you on the news  tonight and she cried all the way down to Macon
177. 21:30because you had the balls to get on  the news and tell everybody everything
178. 21:37you didn't have no problem talking to  the news when I asked you questions
179. 21:42I'm asking you questions where's  Laura yes you do know you do know
180. 21:54you do know you know you know
181. 22:02you do know
182. 22:05and everybody in making those you knows  because you got your sorry ass on the
183. 22:09news and told everybody so every friend  you have in Macon knows that you know
184. 22:20everybody go to school with every  one of your professors everybody
185. 22:26knows that you know because you got on the  news tonight and told everybody that you know
186. 22:35how do you think
187. 22:41you think you're gonna be a walk down  the street tomorrow and nobody bother you
188. 22:45huh think nobody's gonna come over and  knock on your door to see if you want
189. 22:53to talk to the meeting again I don't know  oh they're going to be over there brother
190. 23:01so this little act that you're doing right now
191. 23:04ain't working with me okay because you  didn't have no problem talking to the media
192. 23:14no problem so you just snap out of it and tell  me what the hell happened so we can move on
193. 23:25I don't know well how many times you gonna say  I don't know huh how many times you gonna say it
194. 23:38what are you going to say I remember I  don't want to remember what happened to her
195. 23:44how many times you gonna say that
196. 23:49if you did something
197. 23:52that you regret
198. 23:55and you let me know I didn't oh dear I don't  know well a body was found over here right
199. 24:06next to where you live and what do you  have in your apartment a lot of knives
200. 24:15a lot of guns
201. 24:18right yes
202. 24:28and I'm asking you about it and  you're just saying I don't know
203. 24:34that's all that's the only answer  you can give is I don't know
204. 24:38but six hours or a couple hours ago you was  out there telling the media everything you
205. 24:42didn't stand in front of that camera and say I  don't know you were actually answering questions
206. 24:48right
207. 24:51how many interviews you give three I don't know  you gave like three do you think that was a
208. 25:00proper thing to do when a mother's looking for  her child they asked me what happened and what
209. 25:07did you tell them what did you tell them that  Lauren was missing okay what else did you tell
210. 25:16we're going looking for her okay and  what and that we hadn't found her
211. 25:26what else do they ask to I don't remember why  don't you remember I don't you're telling me that
212. 25:36you went through Law School well you went through  college first right you graduated from college yes
213. 25:42now you're in law school did you graduate from law  school yeah but you don't fucking remember what
214. 25:46they asked you this afternoon no huh I just don't  fucking believe that shit don't say enough yet
215. 25:58what's up buddy
216. 26:01you talked to him about his guns yeah when was  the last time you shot those guns all right
217. 26:06you've never shot a gun no have you ever  shot any gun in your whole life no no
218. 26:15so you bought three guns that  you've never shot yes why
219. 26:21for what to have for what I'm asking  for what do you want to have them what
220. 26:30makes did they give you I mean tell me why  it's important to you to have three guns
221. 26:40that's an easy question Come on talk to  me buddy me and you talked all day today
222. 26:45we ain't had a problem communicating why  is it important for you to have three guns
223. 26:54do you not know okay um you got a girlfriend no
224. 27:02who's your best friend Michael Quinn Michael  who Quinn who is he he was a law student with me
225. 27:11is this y'all does he still a lawsuit no he  graduated when was the last time you talked to him
226. 27:19Dr Boston how long ago was that a few weeks like  a month two months two weeks three weeks what
227. 27:28the beginning of June beginning  of June beginning of June okay
228. 27:38so let me ask you a question how you  say you don't know where Lauren is right
229. 27:45you said you told me earlier  you alone were friends right yes
230. 27:49how would you describe y'all's relationship
231. 27:54she was your friend what did you ever  do things for she ever do things for
232. 28:00you what did she ever do for you we talked we  talked what'd y'all talk about news the news
233. 28:10okay um earlier you was telling me something  about you fixed your computer before
234. 28:16I couldn't fix it you couldn't fix it what  was wrong with it how long ago was that
235. 28:28but how long ago was that little of May so you  were over in her apartment in the middle of
236. 28:35May yes have you been over there since then  yes when was the last time you rode there
237. 28:43before last night have you ever been  over there with Lauren since the time
238. 28:48you worked on her computer in the middle of May no
239. 28:51how many times have you been in  her apartment with her hanging out
240. 28:56I don't know
241. 29:02if you don't know
242. 29:06if you had to guess what was just I  mean one time two times three times what
243. 29:15maybe two two maybe two see if  I had only been somewhere twice
244. 29:21I could remember that if I had been there  over 50 times and you asked me how many
245. 29:26times I've been like I don't know I lied but  the fact that you've only been there twice
246. 29:30when I say how many times has been you  say you don't know that's just odd to me
247. 29:35does that make sense to you yes that does make  sense so what I'm saying right now makes sense no
248. 29:47when was the last time you saw the lawn two  or three weeks ago and you have you been on
249. 29:53vacation for the last couple weeks no you've been  home every night yes has she been at home every
250. 29:59night I don't know has she been on vacation I  think she was she was a for a while how long
251. 30:08were you looking for no let me tell you  even if I didn't talk to my neighbors I
252. 30:16know if my neighbors have been in and  out I hear them come in I hear them go
253. 30:20out I see him when they walk by my window  I've lived in apartments most of my life
254. 30:25so the fact that you haven't seen her in  two or three weeks that's just odd to me
255. 30:30I'm gonna be out it makes me feel like  you're not being honest with me Stephen
256. 30:36why would you not be honest with me I am being  honest Stephen it just doesn't feel like it buddy
257. 30:42you know I get the sense that
258. 30:47there's something weighing heavy on your  heart right now and it's breaking you down
259. 30:55and you feel bad about it I can tell you haven't  slept much have you in the last few days have you
260. 31:02no like something's Weighing on your mind ain't  it we were looking for Lauren you started looking
261. 31:09for Lauren yesterday but you haven't slept in  several days have you yes you have yes earlier
262. 31:16when I talked to you you said you hadn't slept  been days that this morning was the first time
263. 31:20he was able to get any sleep was this morning  for a little bit no yes that's what you said
264. 31:30that's what you told me
265. 31:35so I asked you well if you  haven't been able to sleep
266. 31:37in several days what have you been  doing studying you said yes studying
267. 31:42you don't remember that
268. 31:53what I want you to do I'm  going to ask you this question
269. 31:57I want you to describe to  me how you feel right now
270. 32:09you don't know how to answer that with a yes  or no do you I don't know what's going on
271. 32:18Lauren's missing
272. 32:22this this pretty little girl  right here your neighbor
273. 32:29she's missing I know you went looking for  her last night yes did you hurt Lauren no
274. 32:41Stephen did you hurt Lauren no I know this  is hard for you to tell it but it's Weighing
275. 32:49on you right now ain't it Stephen I didn't do it  but I know you can probably help me with who did
276. 32:59can't you buddy I don't know
277. 33:05just didn't you know and I me and you both  know it's no different than when you was a
278. 33:11little kid right and you reached in that  cookie jar and you got caught after your
279. 33:16mama told you not to get that cookie you know  did you get a cookie no and whenever you tell
280. 33:23a lie you feel bad about it right then one with  every light is a chance you're gonna get called
281. 33:32and that weighs on you because  you know you did something bad
282. 33:39am I right I didn't do it  you didn't take the cookie no
283. 33:51what'd you do buddy
284. 33:55I didn't do anything would you do the Lord I  didn't do anything it's all going last night
285. 34:03though yesterday no what time was it that she  went out to do her laundry I don't know where
286. 34:12were you at yesterday at home what'd you do  at home tell me everything you did yesterday
287. 34:20from the time you woke up to  the time you went to sleep
288. 34:28I checked the news that what uh I  don't remember was it yesterday morning
289. 34:36remember what'd you do when you woke up
290. 34:40I think I checked the news all  right you check the news okay
291. 34:51what'd you do after that
292. 34:55I watched some videos online
293. 34:59to clean up no you didn't no you smell like  you've been cleaning up like you've been using
294. 35:08cleaner to clean up I know what that smells like  my wife smells like that all the time when she
295. 35:13cleans the house you've been using some kind of  cleaner to clean up your apartment haven't you no
296. 35:20Stephen did you tell me you live it like  a man how does your apartment get cleaned
297. 35:25I cleaned it okay when was the  last time you cleaned it Stephen
298. 35:30I don't remember was it this week no you mean you  go a whole week without cleaning yes why that's
299. 35:40horrible Stephen was it possibly over the weekend  last weekend no it wasn't if you can't remember
300. 35:50then how is it that you can tell me that you  didn't clean up your apartment last weekend
301. 35:55a minute ago you couldn't remember
302. 36:02I don't remember cleaning last weekend
303. 36:05so you it isn't that you didn't  it's that you just don't remember
304. 36:12right
305. 36:19help me out buddy right I don't  understand I just don't understand
306. 36:34I don't know how else to say it  Stephen let me tell you what I think
307. 36:39I think that she was a friend of yours look at her  right here I think that she was a friend of yours
308. 36:48and I think something happens to you
309. 36:56used to watch her come in and  out of her apartment didn't you
310. 37:01no I mean then how would y'all friends if  y'all if me and you friends we live next
311. 37:07door to each other every time I see look  I want to see oh there's my buddy going in
312. 37:13because we friends I'm gonna pay attention to when  you come in and out didn't you just tell me that
313. 37:18y'all were friends yes but you don't you didn't  pay attention to when she came in and out no
314. 37:25no Stephen you're lying now you're  lying you're just lying that's a lie
315. 37:33you you ever see her come in and out of her  apartment yes you did when was the last time
316. 37:42you don't remember like last week maybe  I don't think so you don't think so
317. 37:50Stephen you understand that everything that you're  saying it doesn't make any sense at all none none
318. 37:58you totally contradict everything that relates  to human behavior we have skills to be able to
319. 38:06observe things to hear things to see things  there are natural things out there that draw
320. 38:11our attention every day such as when you're  driving down the road if somebody hits the
321. 38:15horn you look around you know what I'm saying  this is a natural reaction if you're sitting in
322. 38:21your living room you hear the door standing next  to you you automatically think my neighbor's home
323. 38:26right you're you're telling me that those  kind of things don't happen in your life
324. 38:33I asked if I watch I didn't watch
325. 38:37have you noticed that she's came in and out of  her house in the last week or two I don't remember
326. 38:51foreign
327. 38:55the last time I saw her was two or three weeks  ago dude where at she was going out running
328. 39:02when I was coming in what were you coming  in from for our preparation bar preparation
329. 39:09what's the bar preparation oh you're  preparing for the bar exam yes okay
330. 39:18well how y'all doing we're just talking  he doesn't seem to remember our whole life
331. 39:26everything's yes or no I don't remember
332. 39:31a lot of things aren't making anything  I got to be honest with you Stephen
333. 39:36me personally I don't feel like you're being  honest okay well Stephen you said you're gonna
334. 39:43help me out right with this investigation because  we needed your help we're asking you for help
335. 39:49right that's what we remember I told you that yes  and you told me you're gonna help man yeah right
336. 39:57you're gonna help me find Lauren right yes and  ask for your opinion your observation of what
337. 40:03happened there to her yes right and what what  did you tell me I thought someone snatched her
338. 40:11all right where do you think someone might have  snatched her from if you're the detective you're
339. 40:19the police detective it's your investigation  where would you start your investigation
340. 40:29come on now you watch TV right yes okay you made  it through college right yes you made it just
341. 40:39about through law school right yes so you should  know where would you start your investigation
342. 40:48where she was last seen okay
343. 40:53so in this case where was she last seen
344. 40:56at garen's house Karen that's the guy that  lives up on street right friend of hers yes okay
345. 41:07all right and that was on I think she left  there on Saturday morning yes am I right
346. 41:15now where do you think she went from their house  I don't know all right you're the detective now
347. 41:24all right it's your case what would you do check  at her home okay we did that with you know that's
348. 41:37what we did today right yeah so you saw us out  there when we knocked on your door she's not there
349. 41:49you know I need your help in finding her
350. 41:54and what do we need to do what do we need to do  that we haven't done I don't know you don't know
351. 42:04so if you had this case you wouldn't be able  to solve it is that what you're saying because
352. 42:08you're not smart enough to solve it I don't know  or you think you're smart enough to be Detective
353. 42:15I don't know no
354. 42:18you got to be killing me Stephen
355. 42:24so Stephen listen to me we're real people and  we're here to talk to you we're trying we're
356. 42:32I'd like to think that we're friends okay friends  communicate back and forth the only thing you've
357. 42:39said is yes or no and I don't know okay it makes  me feel like you're treating me like you don't
358. 42:45like me and I feel like I've looked out for you  today everything you said you wanted I've given
359. 42:51you I've tried to give you food several times you  know I feel like we talked you told me about how
360. 42:57you like to look at porn on the internet um you  expressed to me that you're a virgin correct yes
361. 43:03I mean that's the kind of stuff you tell friends  you know what I'm saying right yes we we need to
362. 43:10know where your other car is at I know you  have I already know you own another car okay
363. 43:20you've been using somebody else's car  yeah everyone I interviewed today say
364. 43:27you have another car these people aren't  making this up you have another vehicle
365. 43:38so your grandfather's a liar  is that what you're saying
366. 43:44you're calling your grandfather  a liar I just talked to her
367. 43:48and he said you own another car I don't
368. 43:54oh he's lied to me Stephen we're telling  way too many lies again so you're telling
369. 44:00me they're like you're willing to tell me  that you're a virgin and that you you told
370. 44:05me you jack off the porn on the internet but  you don't want to admit to having another call
371. 44:09that makes me think you got something to  hide Stephen that concerns me you tell me
372. 44:14things that most people wouldn't tell somebody  else but yet you lie about something I'm trying
373. 44:19to hide if you have another car what's the big  deal I don't have it I got three calls do you
374. 44:24that's the only car you've ever had  in Macon yes okay let me go talk to
375. 44:33him again because that's not what he's saying
376. 44:43Stephen
377. 44:48what happened alone yeah you like her don't you  she's my friend did you ever think about having
378. 44:55sex with her no you never tried to talk to her on  a dating level yeah let me go talk they got his
379. 45:03grandfather let me go talk make sure that he owns  another car because he's telling us he doesn't
380. 45:17be right back so you telling me she got a  pretty girl right there yes you're telling
381. 45:23me you looked at a pretty girl like  that you never once thought ever man
382. 45:30she looks good you never thought that
383. 45:43what do you mean you don't understand did you  know how when you're sitting there you see a
384. 45:46girl walking down the road and he said man that  girl looks good you ever said good looking girl
385. 45:52where you think to yourself man that girl looks  good yes you never thought that about her yes
386. 45:59so you mean to tell me you  look at porn on the internet
387. 46:04and get off to that but you  never looked at her and said
388. 46:08man I wonder would it be like to  have sex with her yes you have no
389. 46:16have you ever thought about what it  would be like to have sex alone no
390. 46:20you've never imagined having sex alone  no no have you ever had sex before no
391. 46:29what do you know about that body we  found today I don't know you don't know
392. 46:46what if I told you
393. 46:50that I believe that you do know I don't  what if I told you that I could prove it
394. 46:58I don't know you don't know is there a chance but  you do admit there's a chance that I possibly have
395. 47:08evidence to show that you do have something to do  with that body correct I don't know you don't know
396. 47:16because if I hadn't done anything I say  nope there's no way but you say you don't
397. 47:23know why is that why do you say you don't know  is there a chance that maybe something's there
398. 47:28no why did you say you don't know because I don't  know because you're worried about something maybe
399. 47:34something happened that maybe something got mixed  up with something you're worried about that no
400. 47:41now why you say I don't know because I don't
401. 47:46how would you not know
402. 47:52if I was asking you did you just  rob a bank if you didn't you'd say
403. 47:56no not I don't know right right  so why do you say I don't know
404. 48:02because I don't know you don't know if you  had anything to do with that body I didn't
405. 48:07you didn't no are you sure yes what if I  said I could prove that you did I don't know
406. 48:19could you explain it I don't know
407. 48:25today you told an investigator  that you were worried
408. 48:31about us possibly finding blood in your apartment
409. 48:35didn't you I don't remember you did it  now why would you be worried about that
410. 48:44we all looked in Lauren's  apartment did you see blood
411. 48:48no then what would make you think that  that there was blood taken over there
412. 48:53nothing would make you think that unless  you saw it because see I didn't see no blood
413. 49:01none of other large friends saw blood but I know  now that blood was there and now I believe you
414. 49:09saw it you saw that blood you know that blood was  there and that's why you're worried about it no
415. 49:21did you know why do you have blood up  in the inside of your nose I don't know
416. 49:33you don't know but you saw that  blood that's the only way that
417. 49:39you would be worried about it because  that's like saying I'm worried about
418. 49:47Red Rose is being under my pillow but yet I never  put on that that doesn't make any sense you know
419. 49:55um your brain doesn't even think to operate  like that unless you knew something was there
420. 50:02does that make sense that makes  sense that you're a smart guy right
421. 50:10I don't understand
422. 50:15you knew that there was blood in  that apartment no yes you did Stephen
423. 50:22yes you did
424. 50:26there's blood in your apartment Stephen
425. 50:33that's right there's blood in your apartment
426. 50:39Stephen this is hard buddy I know this is hard
427. 50:43and I can tell it's only you want to let it go  there's blood in your apartment Stephen you didn't
428. 50:49get it all up it didn't all come off you scrubbing  you wiped but we can tell that don't you watch CSI
429. 51:02yeah we know it
430. 51:09Stephen why is there blood in your bathroom
431. 51:15yes you do know why Steven I don't  has anybody else been in your bathroom
432. 51:22because we're in there other than  the police who else has been in there
433. 51:29and no one and you recently cleaned  your bathroom didn't you no how long ago
434. 51:37I don't remember a couple days ago over the  weekend no you don't know I don't remember
435. 51:45cleaning it do you use drugs no no you ever  use acid no are you you're on medication no
436. 52:04you're lying Stephen I wanted to  give you an opportunity to tell it
437. 52:11I wanted to be here with you to go through that  process because I know you're not a monster man
438. 52:18I know you're not a bad guy just a hard-working  student trying to pass a bar as I imagine
439. 52:25you ain't got a lot of support  from your family do you yes you do
440. 52:30a lot of people can't say that and the fact  that you do have support from your family
441. 52:36should make things easier to do your family  wants to feel like they've raised somebody
442. 52:40that tells the truth and is honest right  yes did you hurt that girl Stephen no
443. 52:48have you ever heard anyone Stephen yeah
444. 53:04never hurt anyone no I've heard people Stephen
445. 53:12I've made mistakes in my life that's not  even normal to say you've never heard
446. 53:16anybody sometimes people get mad they say things  they don't mean to say it hurts you never keep
447. 53:24the dog or a calf you know you ever hurt your  the kids that live up there with your parents
448. 53:31do you love those kids don't you yes okay if  something happened to one of those kids you 'd
449. 53:39be upset right yes well something happened though  this lady's child Lauren okay you love Europe
450. 53:51all the kids up there with your mom all right yes  and you do anything for them right yes I mean they
451. 53:58called and said hey we need you help us out you'd  help them out right yes we need you to help us out
452. 54:07okay
453. 54:11tell me about your family before adopted  siblings let you love very much right yes
454. 54:19okay what about your mama she's a homemaker  okay what about your daddy he's a painter
455. 54:29close family y'all close yes was the last time  you talked to him we'll move back together what
456. 54:40was that a few weeks ago did you go up  there to see him or they come down and
457. 54:47see you we went to Buckner's I like both of us  chicken place where the table spins around yes
458. 54:56you just drove up that metal yes foreign
459. 55:05they bring all the kids with them yes
460. 55:10they didn't come back and make them
461. 55:14well they asked you how you was  doing in school whatever yes
462. 55:24you had total detector Chapman that you've  never shot any of those guns that were in your
463. 55:31apartment yes have you no well you never went to  the shooting range here in Macon did some shooting
464. 55:40huh no any gun no
465. 55:48you never had did you made the mistake  and told people at school that you used
466. 55:51to go to the shooting range and  shoot no you've never said that no
467. 55:58do you even know how to load yes SKS is that that  was an SKS right no what was it an AK same well
468. 56:07same thing just different you don't even know  how to load it yes what kind of rounds to take
469. 56:14762-39 okay what's the capacity of that clip that  you had 30 rounds what's it loaded is it loaded
470. 56:27the magazine is full okay got a round  in the chamber no why not safer that way
471. 56:36Cipher it's just you in the apartment right
472. 56:41why do you think it's safe for that one
473. 56:44no chance of it getting knocked over and going  off I mean no one lives with you just you
474. 56:53bullets can travel distance well how  do you know that I've read up about it
475. 57:03on what the computer yes okay what about your  pistols you never fired any of those pistols no
476. 57:15or they load it tonight the magazine  is full on the 10 millimeter okay
477. 57:22there's one around in the chamber and  nine millimeter and a full magazine
478. 57:27it was the nine millimeter the full  size one with the compact one compact
479. 57:35and you've never even fired any of those  weapons no where do you buy your ammo
480. 57:40have you ever purchased an animal  here make them yes from where
481. 57:45A to Z guns was that on viable Avenue yes  when's the last time he was lazy guns years ago
482. 57:54do you have a a permit yeah to carry  on what you do here in Bibb County yes
483. 58:05you applied when you was  working down at the county or
484. 58:08something applied last fall okay so you have  your card yes is it with you yes can I see ya
485. 58:19to make they still make you take your  fingerprint dollar yes let me see your car
486. 58:27how much does it cost now you  remember around eighty dollars
487. 58:37so it expires in 2016. yes
488. 58:43do you have any pictures of  the kids yeah no they didn't
489. 58:48give you no pictures when they were in  school got a picture of your parents no
490. 58:53you got no pictures no at all you  have so much your apartment some
491. 59:03what do the kids call you Stephen okay  so you're just a brother or uncle or
492. 59:10brother brother Stephen none of them  ever come visit you here in Macon now
493. 59:33about this car when you first moved to  Macon did you have another automobile no
494. 59:40never no when you moved to making us  you brought that Geo prison with you yes
495. 59:47you never left a car back there at your  mother's no why'd you tell everybody at school
496. 59:53that you had that other vehicle I didn't so  everyone we talked to just made that story up
497. 1:00:02about you talking about your other  vehicle I don't have another vehicle
498. 1:00:11when's the last time you've  been to Kroger in Bakersfield
499. 1:00:16I don't remember okay because I asked you  that when's the last time you were at Walmart
500. 1:00:22I don't remember it's been a long time can  you even give me that much no a week or so
501. 1:00:32Maybe do you even have a credit card yes which  credit card do you use the most Visa it's just
502. 1:00:42as a bank name or just a Visa First Financial  Bank is that here in Macon no First Financial
503. 1:00:51you got a bank account with them no well  who's accountant they just sent you a Visa
504. 1:00:57you don't have no bank account s
505. 1:01:02you putting all your money in your house with  all the food you got in there I have an account
506. 1:01:07covia you're in Macon yes is do you buy your  uh stuff at Walmart with this Visa card no well
507. 1:01:17how do you usually pay for stuff at Walmart with  cash do you have a job no well how do you get cash
508. 1:01:26student loans so you're just  living off your student loans yes
509. 1:01:41so you hadn't worked like a job in a while no
510. 1:01:47okay are you planning on getting a job yes
511. 1:01:54because your loans are going to  run out sooner or later right yes
512. 1:02:05how long you got left to finish your  school up are you finished completely yes
513. 1:02:11why don't you plan on living out of that apartment
514. 1:02:15around July 15th where you plan on uh
515. 1:02:20going when you move out back to my  parents and where is that at Lilburn
516. 1:02:32do you even know your mother's phone number I  know the home phone number what's that what's the
517. 1:02:38area code over there 770 uh three eight one five  zero three one what's your mother's line Glenda
518. 1:02:52has she ever had a drug problem now
519. 1:02:56you know she's been home your whole entire  life raising you mostly where was she when
520. 1:03:01she was mostly raising you preschool  oh she has school teacher as well yes
521. 1:03:19do you know how I've already told  you that there was a body discovered
522. 1:03:25right in the trash containers  over there near your apartment
523. 1:03:31do you know how that body got in the trash can no
524. 1:03:38do you have any black trash bags in your  apartment like uh that you use for trash no
525. 1:03:46do you can you help me do you know where any  black trash bags are in that apartment complex
526. 1:03:52have you ever seen any around has  someone been over there cleaning up or
527. 1:03:59have you ever seen anybody painting an apartment
528. 1:04:02have you seen any painters because  you're home most of the day right yes
529. 1:04:07have you seen any of that no do you know where  the garbage man usually comes over there no
530. 1:04:15do you know anything yes well you know  I asked you for help what do you know
531. 1:04:23you haven't provided me with nothing
532. 1:04:27I mean when's the last time  you were in that laundry room
533. 1:04:32Apartments last night what  were you doing last night
534. 1:04:36Luke and I were looking for Lauren did  y'all see anything unusual or out of place
535. 1:04:44okay there was one washer that had clothes in  it which calls were lady you know Luke said they
536. 1:04:51looked like a guy's clothes but you didn't  look in the machine I didn't look into tail
537. 1:05:06what kind of knife did you have on you tonight
538. 1:05:09a little throwing knife where'd you  have it in your front pocket yes
539. 1:05:19do you own any saws or anything like that no
540. 1:05:26there's not anything in your car is  there no in the trunk or anything
541. 1:05:32when's the last time you've actually drove  your car like went somewhere in the car
542. 1:05:41last few days all right today's was now Friday but  yesterday was Thursday that's when you met me yes
543. 1:05:51have you drove driven your car this week at all  yes what day I don't remember you don't remember
544. 1:06:01what do you remember about your car drove  to Kroger in bagansville across the river
545. 1:06:09when when do you think that might have  been I don't remember you don't remember
546. 1:06:25why would you go to Kroger get something what
547. 1:06:30dinner you got a lot of  food in your house right yes
548. 1:06:37what day do you think that might have been
549. 1:06:41was it over the weekend no was it Monday I  don't think so was it Tuesday well thanks
550. 1:06:52what day would you think it was if you had  to pick a day what day was you hungry on
551. 1:07:04Wednesday maybe Wednesday
552. 1:07:10you don't remember what you  bought a dinner frozen dinner
553. 1:07:16I like the frozen section microwave dinner no
554. 1:07:24oh Frozen day cook in the oven yes okay  did you go over there by yourself yes
555. 1:07:34did you go anywhere else that night yeah that uh  just doing the program came home yes would you go
556. 1:07:43anywhere this week like I don't know shopping  at the mall or looking at guns and ANZ or
557. 1:07:51you go anywhere else no when's the last time you  cleaned your car I haven't since I got it back
558. 1:08:00and where'd you get it back from my parents how  would they have before their van was in a wreck
559. 1:08:09so what'd they do come get your car or yes
560. 1:08:14so they came to make and got your car  and then left the wreck was down here
561. 1:08:20oh and make them yes so they were staying  with you when they were in the wreck no
562. 1:08:27well what were they doing in making the  van was going to be worked on here I'm
563. 1:08:32making them yes well where's the van at  now do they got it back it was totaled
564. 1:08:40so they were in Macon and they got  they were in a rack in Macon my mom was
565. 1:08:46and she was down here making because the air  conditioner was malfunctioning why was she a Macon
566. 1:08:54though because there's a place in Macon that's the  best at air conditioning repair and you told her
567. 1:09:03about to come down and making to get our air  conditioners fixed no well how do you know that
568. 1:09:09she told me oh so she just drove to  make it to get her air conditioner
569. 1:09:13fixed yes she was in a wreck yes  totaled out her car her van yes
570. 1:09:20came to your house to get your car  I drove her back I was following
571. 1:09:30he drove her back to where to my  apartment where was the van it was towed
572. 1:09:37okay because it's told she's to stay at  your apartment spend the night with you no
573. 1:09:43she stayed just a few minutes and  leave or what she stayed about an hour
574. 1:09:50when's the last time you talked to your mother  Glenda I don't remember it's been a while
575. 1:09:56in a few days do you call her every  day no you don't check on the kids no
576. 1:10:07show me that scratch again that  you showed me earlier that wasn't a
577. 1:10:16what what'd you say happened there I  think I scratched myself in my sleep oh oh
578. 1:10:27are you gonna be able to help me  with this case or not because I
579. 1:10:30need to tell my parents something huh I don't know
580. 1:10:36you don't know what you don't  know what happened to her
581. 1:10:40why don't you know if you can help because  I don't know if I know what you need
582. 1:10:46I need to know if you know where Lawrence yeah  or do you know who took alarm I don't you told
583. 1:10:55me that if you were working the case you would  think somebody would take her when she was running
584. 1:10:59why would you say that when we looked in her  apartment there was no sign that was broken into
585. 1:11:10okay so you're figuring some I might have took  her while she was out running yeah is that what
586. 1:11:15you're saying did you see her go running this  weekend at all no well that would help if you did
587. 1:11:23what time does she normally  run on at night or daytime
588. 1:11:28can you at least tell me that I don't know did you  like to run in the early morning or the late night
589. 1:11:36the last time I saw her was Midday like  noonish yes okay she was going running
590. 1:11:44when I was coming back from bar prep  has that been a while two or three weeks
591. 1:11:55she speak to you no you just just  saw her outrun I was in my car
592. 1:12:05well did you see her when you're like pulling
593. 1:12:07in the parking lot or you just  saw her running down the road
594. 1:12:12was she outside her apartment getting ready to
595. 1:12:14go run or was she already running at  the time you saw her already running
596. 1:12:18okay she was about running by herself yes  she didn't have a dog with her did she no
597. 1:12:28did you get along with everybody when you  worked down with the District Attorney's
598. 1:12:32Office yes no problems no would you like doing  what you used to do down there or what yes
599. 1:12:46who did you work for I mean who was your help  out everybody or were you assigned to just
600. 1:12:54a certain person mainly Jonathan Adams
601. 1:12:59okay how long did you work down there was spring  semester and you enjoy doing that kind of work
602. 1:13:07yes so you should be able to help me right yes  because you're on our side right yes all right
603. 1:13:15what do you think I need to do I don't know  there we go again with that I don't know come
604. 1:13:22on now you can give me some advice  right you can't give me some advice
605. 1:13:32or what I should do next hmm
606. 1:13:41you can't tell me what you think I should do next
607. 1:13:45I don't know well we found a body outside  the apartment right we know that right yes
608. 1:13:54you saying you didn't hear or see anything  but like the whole time you've been there
609. 1:13:59over the weekend right right we've talked  to you right right we've taught the most of
610. 1:14:05all her friends is there anybody else we need  to talk to that you might know that we didn't
611. 1:14:14let's talk about the apartment complex anybody  in that complex anybody else we need to talk to
612. 1:14:36who lives below you an older woman and  her son were they home tonight or today
613. 1:14:43I don't know you didn't see  him no do you ever see him yes
614. 1:14:54but you don't know if they were home today yeah
615. 1:14:58she doesn't have a car so it's really hard to  tell if they're home yes you ever talk to her yes
616. 1:15:08does she work anywhere I don't know do  you ever get tired of saying I don't know
617. 1:15:18hmm
618. 1:15:25what else you got in your wallet there brother
619. 1:15:28my bear card what's that used  for to get into the building
620. 1:15:37what else you got my bank card
621. 1:15:43my Kroger card is that the  car you use to grow it yes
622. 1:15:55come on right down this number
623. 1:15:59since you don't know the last time you were  there I'm assuming you used your card when you
624. 1:16:05were there yes right I always use my card  that's what I'm gonna write down another
625. 1:16:19you can remember that you always use your card  but you can't remember last time you were there
626. 1:16:23I always use my card well what if you  didn't use them what else you got in there
627. 1:16:31my borders card
628. 1:16:43an ink cart
629. 1:16:49my ID
630. 1:16:58what's that voter registration
631. 1:17:06what's up Mercer what's that though Mercer law  cap card what's that use a free camera at home
632. 1:17:11oh that's just the phone numbers for cab companies  here in Micah come on what's that car right there
633. 1:17:22Can't Stop
634. 1:17:28no phone numbers or anything yeah
635. 1:17:40okay put your money back up in there  there's a hundred dollar bill up over there
636. 1:17:44what do you roll with all that money you  buy it for my granddaddy gave it to me
637. 1:18:00do you take any medication no have  you ever taken any medication no
638. 1:18:07do you have any kind of mental problem no
639. 1:18:18you know what's crazy I was talking to people that  he works with and everything they talk about hype
640. 1:18:23he's always expresses himself but he don't know  he's vague talkative didn't they say you're so
641. 1:18:29talkative buddy that you always so friendly  you stop in and say hello and you talk what
642. 1:18:35why is it that you're acting so short with us  tonight if you if you have all this captain of
643. 1:18:39Personality about you why is it that everything  that we get from you is yes nor I don't know
644. 1:18:46I don't know were you sure we're  talking to the media tonight weren't you
645. 1:18:55they asked what happened yeah that's what we're  asking you what happened what'd you tell them
646. 1:19:00I told them you just knew that you didn't know hmm
647. 1:19:09do you drink at all do you drink beer no
648. 1:19:15well at least I gotta know stuff I don't know
649. 1:19:21Stephen
650. 1:19:25you know
651. 1:19:30we had to go to our best resources  when we're trying to do anything
652. 1:19:34you know it's kind of like the guy who wants  to get his oil changed he goes to Jiffy Lube
653. 1:19:38you know what I'm saying we're looking for Lauren  and you said you were her friend onto her friend
654. 1:19:44yes y'all good friends yes how good of friends  are y'all for your friends like how do the France
655. 1:19:56you don't understand you don't  understand how good a friend's all are
656. 1:20:02you understand what you're asking  how good of friends are y'all
657. 1:20:09are y'all close friends or  y'all just acquaintances
658. 1:20:15um not study I mean how good of friends y'all  we're friends friends are y'all really good
659. 1:20:21friends I don't know you don't know how do you  not know if you're not a really good friend
660. 1:20:27let me ask you this maybe you're saying that  because you don't know how she feels about you
661. 1:20:35how do you feel about her do you  consider her a really good friend
662. 1:20:42but not a really good friend
663. 1:20:46you don't know how do you not know
664. 1:20:53are y'all really close no no you're not  no so y'all you never told her in your
665. 1:21:00personal business no she ever tell you  any of hers no you ever see her upset
666. 1:21:09no she was always a happy person wasn't she yes
667. 1:21:21why are you acting like this Stephen
668. 1:21:26you see how I'm able to talk in complete  sentences like we're having a conversation
669. 1:21:33but the only thing you're bringing to  the table is a yes no or I don't know
670. 1:21:41why is that Stephen
671. 1:21:46don't understand what don't you understand
672. 1:21:53I want to be able to help you to commit to be  able to communicate with me better than that Steve
673. 1:21:58I feel like we can help each other
674. 1:22:07Stephen did you hurt that girl no
675. 1:22:14do you know where she's at no
676. 1:22:18would you tell me if you did yes
677. 1:22:31have you lied to me at all in this  interview no yes you have Stephen
678. 1:22:40you says you have when you say you don't know  when the last time you cleaned your bathroom is
679. 1:22:50that's a lie
680. 1:22:53when you say you don't know the last time you  saw her coming out of her apartment and you don't
681. 1:22:58notice whether or not she comes in and out that's  another lie your door is only a few feet from hers
682. 1:23:10you've told some lies in this interview Stephen
683. 1:23:16without a doubt when was the  last time you did laundry
684. 1:23:22a few weeks ago you ain't washed clothes in a few  weeks why clothes no you don't that's another lie
685. 1:23:39that's right that's three lives Stephen you  don't have a lot of clothes yes I do nope
686. 1:23:50you got enough underwear to last you  three weeks yes do you wear the same
687. 1:23:56pair of underwear more than one day yes  why because it's so clean enough to wear
688. 1:24:12student I appreciate you coming down  here today I'm talking to is okay
689. 1:24:17I appreciate you cooperating with us and  and helping us along but you've lied to me
690. 1:24:24about at least three things in this interview and  people don't lie unless they got something to hide
691. 1:24:32why would you lie to me Stephen I didn't lie sure  you did you said you don't even notice when she
692. 1:24:39comes in and out of her apartment that's a lie  Steven I said I didn't remember the last time
693. 1:24:47have you ever watched her going to our  apartment no you've never how long y'all
694. 1:24:52been neighbors three years three years you've  never watched her walk through her front door yes
695. 1:25:01five six I said you ever watched  her walk into apartment you said no
696. 1:25:09so I'm gonna ask you again if you ever watched her  walk into our apartment yes when was the last time
697. 1:25:19how long before graduation it's been  that long and you graduated when in May
698. 1:25:32beginning of May into May in the middle and you  hadn't sitting there walking her apartment since
699. 1:25:40did you ever help her carry up  groceries and stuff like that no no
700. 1:25:47you have an Apple Care laundry no
701. 1:25:52she's never needed your help with anything
702. 1:25:56she asked for help with the computer you have  all for help with her for anything K and stuff
703. 1:26:02or anything like that yes like what Stephen  when she was moving out during the first summer
704. 1:26:11what did you do she needed help  moving stuff to her car and you
705. 1:26:16helped her yes so you went and out  of her apartment moving stuff yes
706. 1:26:24how long did you help her few  minutes that's it yes do you
707. 1:26:30realize how you're talking right  now does it not feel weird to you
708. 1:26:35would you say that this is how you  talk all the time I don't understand
709. 1:26:45you're just not expressing yourself  at all everything's with you is yes no
710. 1:26:52I don't remember I don't understand
711. 1:26:59you can't help me out with anything you there's  nothing you can tell me to help me about this
712. 1:27:03beautiful girl right here  Stephen that was your friend
713. 1:27:09nothing you don't let things go down like this
714. 1:27:16I don't know what you want I want the  truth Stephen I don't know where she is
715. 1:27:23let me ask you this you I truly believe  you don't know where she is right now
716. 1:27:30where was she yesterday I don't know liar
717. 1:27:44that's right you're lying
718. 1:27:55why are you lying Stephen yes you are lying
719. 1:28:00how long do you continue to do it she's  got a mother and a father and a family out
720. 1:28:04there that is sick over everything where's  that little girl Stephen Stephen you know
721. 1:28:16where Steve you're going to look at this  right here at this little girl right here
722. 1:28:25and you're gonna say you don't know I know  you know yes you know what are you going to
723. 1:28:32say tomorrow when I say we got your hair with  the body what are you gonna say to me then
724. 1:28:40because you know like I go like that  look at my hair that's how easy it
725. 1:28:47falls out look at all that on your head  you don't think nothing fell out they did
726. 1:28:56it did Stephen
727. 1:29:01we just want to give you an opportunity to tell  it so you didn't look like a monster at the end
728. 1:29:06because you know what I don't believe that you're  a monster Stephen I believe that you're a good
729. 1:29:11guy you've been pinked on girls didn't show you  the respect that you deserved you did something
730. 1:29:17stupid and I believe you feel bad about it  and that's why y'all freaked out right now
731. 1:29:24but I'm giving you the opportunity to get  right I'm giving you an opportunity to show
732. 1:29:29everybody you're not a monster that you feel  bad about what happened your head is there man
733. 1:29:36your hair is there we got your head with the body  how is that Stephen I don't know yes you do know
734. 1:29:49yes you do know Stephen
735. 1:29:55that's right buddy see that
736. 1:30:00look at it
737. 1:30:05see how easy
738. 1:30:10it happens and it happened to you
739. 1:30:16why Stephen
740. 1:30:20I don't understand oh you understand you  understand exactly what I'm saying see this
741. 1:30:27stuff right here your hair yeah it fell out of  your head when you was moving the body Stephen
742. 1:30:38that's right do you remember moving  the body yeah yes you do Stephen
743. 1:30:50why man what happened
744. 1:30:56why
745. 1:31:01tell me bud I didn't do it yes you did  Stephen your heads with the body quit lying
746. 1:31:11we want you to tell it so that  way people are understanding not
747. 1:31:15a monster things just you got  out of control it's a sickness
748. 1:31:23why'd you do it Stephen
749. 1:31:25why are you gonna keep telling that  you heard that girl yes you did Stephen
750. 1:31:38you heard her man she was  screaming screaming Stephen
751. 1:31:48why and I know you feel bad about  it I can see it in your face
752. 1:31:57what came over you man
753. 1:32:01what happened Stephen no I know you don't know you  can't you couldn't control it could you I didn't
754. 1:32:11do it even how long will we continue to do this  you did why is what I want to know I didn't do
755. 1:32:27it Stephen you heard that girl  man and you got on the news today
756. 1:32:33that's right you know what you been  talking like this on the news buddy
757. 1:32:45you hurt this girl no idea yes you did
758. 1:32:51you hurt that girl
759. 1:33:07why'd you hurt her Steven you heard that girl  did you try to make her have sex with you
760. 1:33:14I didn't know who did it they got your hair  they steal your hair and take it over there
761. 1:33:25Stephen they steal your hair
762. 1:33:31they didn't did they
763. 1:33:36did they Stephen
764. 1:33:40that's right it's all sinking in right  now he knows is what you're thinking
765. 1:33:48Stephen I don't want it to  be a game between me and you
766. 1:33:54I know it hurts and I know you're not  an awful person and you want to tell
767. 1:33:58it your hair was there Stephen  we've all known it all along
768. 1:34:05we wanted just to give you an  opportunity to tell what happened
769. 1:34:12y'all have sex no to try to have sex  no think about having sex no liar
770. 1:34:25kind of man didn't think about having sex
771. 1:34:33you said earlier you like girls right yes you said  she's a pretty girl right yes what'd you do to
772. 1:34:40her Steven I didn't do anything you're lying you  hurt that girl no I didn't sure it didn't that's
773. 1:34:46why you're having this massive meltdown right now  because you can't live with yourself can you it's
774. 1:34:53overwhelming you isn't it tell the truth Stephen I  didn't do it who did it I know yes you do Stephen
775. 1:35:19why
776. 1:35:22why did you hear that girl I didn't  why'd you heard of Steve I didn't
777. 1:35:43you heard that girl now I'm sure you did
778. 1:35:48you know it and I know it you just don't want  to tell it Stephen but that's okay I know it I
779. 1:35:57just want to give you an opportunity to tell  it so people didn't think you were a monster
780. 1:36:06you're not a monster are you Stephen no
781. 1:36:12I know buddy I know you're not a monster
782. 1:36:19tell me what happened I don't know you tried  to have sex with her no she didn't want to have
783. 1:36:26sex with you I didn't do it she didn't want  to have sex with you Steve I don't know you
784. 1:36:33don't know if she wanted to have sex with  you I didn't do anything yes you did Steve
785. 1:36:44he went into her apartment Stephen
786. 1:36:49and you hurt that girl no I didn't
787. 1:36:55you did Buddy
788. 1:37:01you heard of Stephen no I didn't they did
789. 1:37:09why won't you tell me Stephen I didn't do it
790. 1:37:23we'll take this from me you don't deserve  to look at it just stay right here okay okay
791. 1:37:32I appreciate all your  cooperation tonight okay okay
792. 1:42:51oh all right we're getting ready to go I just  need to discuss a few more things with you
793. 1:42:59you know the reason why we're down here is because  Lauren's missing right yeah I just need you
794. 1:43:07to please tell me
795. 1:43:11give me a where you I know earlier today you told
796. 1:43:16me you stayed home all weekend  right in your apartment yes
797. 1:43:22and uh did anybody see you talk to  anybody over the weekend were you
798. 1:43:30on your computer all weekend is there  anything I can look at that I can say
799. 1:43:39he couldn't be involved because he was on the  computer or he was online on a porn site or he was
800. 1:43:49online doing College work or anything that would  exclude you as being involved altogether I mean
801. 1:43:57did anybody see you this weekend at the  house did you go out to get a newspaper
802. 1:44:04did you wave to a neighbor or you just locked  yourself in all week yes nobody saw you
803. 1:44:11no I mean wouldn't you just stay in the house all  day yes I mean what do you do all day in the house
804. 1:44:19play video games by yourself yes
805. 1:44:24you never talk to anybody on the phone or  anything if they call me well who called you
806. 1:44:31parents I mean you've always done that  your whole life you don't have no friends
807. 1:44:37how can you go your own life without  a friend I have friends where they at
808. 1:44:45huh where they at
809. 1:44:52any friends here making yes  name one because everybody
810. 1:44:56I talked to said they ain't your friend  hi Granger Cass Lawson Ashley Morehouse
811. 1:45:04those same people I talked to today  and they're not your friend okay
812. 1:45:13we're not your friend
813. 1:45:21I mean it's all over anyways
814. 1:45:27I just want to know what was going on tonight
815. 1:45:33the game's over I mean
816. 1:45:37we know what you did to her so we just want to  know what you if you were going to tell us or not
817. 1:45:42I didn't do anything that's what you say well  we know different so you're fucked either way
818. 1:45:54you're fucked
819. 1:45:57we already know
820. 1:46:02and everybody out there all your friends  know that you're down here because of what
821. 1:46:07happened to harm so all those friends that you  thought you had are not your friends anymore
822. 1:46:17okay there'll be no more video games
823. 1:46:21all right
824. 1:46:27This Is the End
825. 1:46:31is there anything you want to say  I didn't do it that's what you say
826. 1:46:40that's what you say stick to your story  because it's over we're tired of talking to you
827. 1:46:49okay we know you killed her we know you put  her body in the trash can simple as that
828. 1:47:00news media knows it Glenda knows it's your  mother your sister knows it sister's husband
829. 1:47:09knows the one that used to beat your  sister he knows it you know what he said
830. 1:47:17he's a crazy motherfucker is what he said what I  call him that's your own family calling you crazy
831. 1:47:29your old family said you're crazy
832. 1:47:40nobody wants to see you  nobody's coming to visit you
833. 1:47:49so you can sit there with that dumb  look on your face but it's over
834. 1:47:56you enjoyed yourself and it's all over now
835. 1:48:01okay
836. 1:48:05anything you want to say I don't know I  didn't do anything well that's what you say
837. 1:48:12but I'm telling you you did okay simple  as that you're not in charge I am
838. 1:48:20I just took it away from you that's one thing  you can't change brother you can't change that
839. 1:48:30you will no longer in charge of anything
840. 1:48:39okay you understand that
841. 1:48:44foreign
842. 1:48:50talk to Glenda she's crying
843. 1:49:01she's supposed to be coming down here
844. 1:49:06I told him the whole story
845. 1:49:11and they told me what you used to tell  them about your next door neighbor too
846. 1:49:21yeah what what you can't say  nothing now you're speechless huh
847. 1:49:32yeah she should be in a little bit
848. 1:49:36I promised her I'd let her see you and the kids I
849. 1:49:39don't know if she's bringing them all  or not before you go on down all right
850. 1:49:45okay I didn't do anything doesn't  matter what you think you did
851. 1:49:51doesn't matter it's what I can prove okay
852. 1:49:59okay Mr Smarty Pants hmm
853. 1:50:05promised her I'll let her see you I'm  waiting on them to get out here all right
854. 1:50:17okay I'm taking glinda's statement about  what you used to tell her about your neighbor
855. 1:50:26about what you tell her about  your guns and your knives and
856. 1:50:30your sister's husbands coming  because he said you're crazy
857. 1:50:39your sister is married still right yes  he used to beat her back in the day I
858. 1:50:46don't know huh [Music] well you sit there  and think about it for a little bit okay
859. 1:50:58got plenty of time to think now don't you hmm
860. 1:51:04yeah got plenty of time to think you thought you  were smarter than everybody else but you're not
861. 1:51:15you're not
862. 1:51:18a sad thing about it is you probably  could have made something with your life
863. 1:51:22she chose a different route because one
864. 1:51:26you don't have a girlfriend and two  you're never going to get a girlfriend
865. 1:51:41[Music]
866. 1:51:42I'm listening
867. 1:51:45I'm all ears
868. 1:51:49I don't know what you want me to say I want  you to say nothing you're fucked either way
869. 1:51:59do you understand that I didn't do anything  that's what you that's your salad story
870. 1:52:12not your side of the story
871. 1:52:22works both ways brother
872. 1:52:26birth ways
873. 1:52:30ain't gonna be no more yellow ain't nobody  gonna yell at you they're gonna come in
874. 1:52:36here and cry kiss you goodbye I'm gonna  take their statement and it's all over
875. 1:52:46you do understand that right I didn't  do anything that's what you say
876. 1:52:55that's what you say because  you haven't told us anything
877. 1:53:06do you realize what I'm telling you
878. 1:53:12um
879. 1:53:15okay well you sit there and think about it a  little bit okay I'll come back and check on you
880. 1:53:34I thought you were smarter than everybody
881. 1:53:39fucked up
882. 1:53:43fucked up somebody always leaves  something in a crime scene fucked up
883. 1:53:58I fucked it up
884. 1:54:02first I didn't really believe  you had anything to do with it
885. 1:54:10foreign
886. 1:54:12's office with us he's a good guy he used  to help us out a friendly guy and everything
887. 1:54:22could have been him he could  have done something like that
888. 1:54:41well we're through talking to you just  waiting for them to come visit you
889. 1:54:51are you through with your little show you've  been putting on all day huh how are you doing
890. 1:55:00hmm
891. 1:55:04you're not gonna win
892. 1:55:08too much evidence
893. 1:55:11too much evidence
894. 1:55:17foreign
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