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0:06all right I got to ask you a few
0:10questions
0:13you came down over there and I mean you
0:15talked alright you don't have any
0:17weapons all you do that's just you are
0:19what's wrong
0:20you don't to take the Patterson right
0:23yes
0:23do you remember Chandler Bing you've
0:26never saw her there tonight right
0:29do you remember me earlier today yes
0:32what came down here and talked a little
0:34bit and then we left
0:35yes okay I need to know about this girl
0:39right here you know who is that why does
0:46she live next door to you yes was the
0:50last time you seen her two or three
0:53weeks ago okay was you friends with
0:56Lauren yes look at me we talked me son
0:59okay was you're friends with her yes
1:03close friends all the friends right both
1:07of you all the law students you're
1:09starting to be an attorney right yes
1:11what kind of law do you want to go into
1:12criminal law yeah silly is that what you
1:15want to do for a living
1:16yes okay are you almost finished yes
1:20okay so you don't have too much more to
1:22do right no all right are you gonna stay
1:26here and make it I don't know did you
1:29used to work at the district attorney's
1:30office in banking yes was you on the
1:33prosecutor side or the defense side so
1:37you on our side right you never worked
1:40on the other side
1:41no did you like it when you were down
1:43there yes got along with everybody
1:47yes and you lived next to Lauren for a
1:51long time yes do you know where she's at
1:55tonight have you ever seen him with that
2:00dress oh no you have no idea where she's
2:06at
2:18yes
2:31okay my major didn't do that but okay
2:35all right all right we'll just tell me
2:43what happened brother
2:44I don't know well where's she at I need
2:47you I'm asking you for your help I'm a
2:50detective
2:51and I'm asking you for your help okay
2:55I'm asking you for help
2:57I need your help can you help me I don't
3:01know you don't know if you can help me
3:04yes I need your help help me out tell me
3:09what to do
3:10has anybody asked you for help today I
3:13need your asking you as a friend for
3:18help can you help me I don't know what
3:25do you mean you don't know you can't
3:27help a friend out I don't know what you
3:29need
3:31I don't know last time you seen her
3:34three weeks has anybody have you ever
3:39seen you buy over her house last couple
3:41nights
3:41no okay if you knew where she was would
3:46you tell me yes what do you think
3:51happened
4:00do you even care that no one kept out
4:02yes I mean I don't know do you
4:07yes
4:16do you have a girl for you no did you
4:21think Lauren was your girlfriend No
4:29I mean
4:32you said you didn't have any other cars
4:34right right why would you everybody you
4:38went to school with for the last three
4:40four years said that you own another car
4:45other than that deal prison everybody
4:48I've talked to all your friends you were
4:50in school with people that you worked at
4:53the district attorney's office with that
4:54you have other cars other than that car
4:57and you're gonna sit here today and tell
4:59me you don't have another car
5:01I don't well where is it that you never
5:06had another car besides that Geo Prizm
5:08so if I'll call your granddaddy he's
5:10gonna tell me that you only have one car
5:13yes what's his phone
5:34I mean you seriously can't help us out
5:37his numbers in myself
5:39where's that's a start where's your cell
5:42phone at the apartment in your apartment
5:44I mean it's kind of late to be calling
5:47does he stay up like I don't know do you
5:53have a grandmother who's just him
5:55I remember mother passed away a while by
5:58yes but you're close to your grandfather
6:02right yes
6:04there's only on some property or
6:06something he said a couple of acres my
6:09granddaddy or my grandfather who lives
6:13in Pike County
6:15my granddaddy does the olden you laying
6:17down there yes okay and just sometimes
6:20you go down or visiting or something
6:29what did he do for a living was he an
6:31attorney like Europe was he buying your
6:37family an attorney
6:38no you're the only one that what good
6:40law school yes well that's an
6:44accomplishment don't you think yes I'm
6:47gonna took a long time right yes
6:51studying
6:59I think you told me earlier you were
7:01from up Atlanta did you live in Atlanta
7:04or Griffin or something about Lilburn
7:07you don't have any family left up there
7:09yes well who lives up there my parents
7:12okay any brothers or sisters my sister
7:17lives in Tucker Georgia yes what's up
7:21with the pair of underwear that was in
7:23your apartment there's like a mask it
7:27was cut out like a mast you you cut
7:30underwear out it looked like masks no I
7:34mean guns did you have in your apartment
7:37three what are they do you know what
7:40they are all right what got a rifle to
7:44jail I make a semi-automatic where'd you
7:48buy it from classic arms that I played
7:52our song oh okay what kind of pistols
7:57are y'all EA a witness full-size and
8:01compact okay what is that what about the
8:05one I was on the veil that's the full
8:07size that's the full size on 40 what was
8:10the other one the compact was out on the
8:14table by the bed yeah maybe I was in
8:18there mm-hmm then you had that samurai
8:20sword yes
8:22that's just so I mean that's nice is it
8:24expensive so orders just some knockoff
8:26it's just one of those knockoff swords
8:28yes and what about the knife which the
8:32big one that was remember you show them
8:33it was dull yes
8:36what kind of life is that cuz I don't
8:37know kukri where do you get somewhere
8:41that online I bought it from a friend
8:44did you have any other knives in the
8:46house yes that I didn't see cuz you
8:50didn't show me no other knives that's
8:51only ones you show me one other nice did
8:52I miss there's a pocketknife that's on
8:55the table are you a knife collector or a
8:58knife person or no you just like knives
9:02I used to collect swords I mean do you
9:05know your swords ya need to sell and
9:08trade swords no but you just bought here
9:12and there
9:12yes but you won't consider yourself like
9:15a sword expert no okay because you know
9:18they have that TV show where they sell
9:20stuff you know at night in TV but I
9:24don't know what it's called the knife
9:25shop or something like that have you
9:29ever seen what I'm talking about cable
9:31TV or not you know tonight we're still
9:44looking for you know any of these other
9:47girls in this picture so she's studying
9:58being attorney - yes is that how Lauren
10:03look what the long hair the last time
10:05you seen her yes that's how she looks
10:09yes
10:20all this was in 2010
10:38who do you think took Lauren away well I
10:43need your help can you give me some what
10:47what is your observation of this I know
10:51you're smarter okay I know you have an
10:58observation you can tell me what's what
11:00do you think happened to her I think
11:03someone took her do you think I mean you
11:12watch TV shows right he takes the show
11:15what's your observation how do you think
11:18some over taker yep somebody did take
11:20her when she was running does she
11:24normally run all the time
11:26she runs I don't know you mean you think
11:31somebody might have took her when she
11:32was running like down the street
11:33somewhere yes you don't think somebody
11:39got her when she got back to her
11:41apartment I don't know well you know
11:47there was a body found in the trash can
11:49next to the four of us yes
11:51you do know that and it's a female white
11:55females body right right next to y'all's
12:00parlor feet within her apartment
12:11we don't know 100% sure it's Lauren but
12:16we're pretty confident it is wait for
12:20some tests to be done
12:22B how to present sure I mean who
12:26wouldn't do something somebody throw a
12:28trash can I'm asking for your advice or
12:33your observation who in your complex
12:37would do something like that you live
12:40over there for three years that's
12:42tonight's the first night I think I've
12:44ever been over there in your expert
12:47opinion of all your knowledge are going
12:52through law school and all the way who
12:55and that complex do I need to talk to I
12:59don't know
13:00no names come to mind you can't help me
13:03out a little bit you can't help do you
13:13don't know anybody at all that lives in
13:20that calm place you know earlier you
13:23told me about a guy who lived in
13:25apartment 15 I mean he's a decent guy I
13:30think so don't you have a laundry room
13:33there or something yeah everybody has
13:36access to the laundry room
13:38yes anybody been working over the
13:42apartments below you in the last couple
13:45weeks that you've noticed
14:00I mean earlier today me and you said
14:04gonna talk normal what's going on with
14:06you now why are you acting like this I
14:08need to know why all of a sudden you're
14:12acting like this okay
14:18earlier today we sit here and talked but
14:23now that you're acting like you don't
14:25know what's going on hmm
14:32when does something happen or something
14:34to you hey why are you not why are you
14:40shutting down why are you not talking to
14:41me I don't know you don't know are you
14:45scared no I mean you're not scared are
14:52you no are you saying that something
14:56happened alarm if that's her in that
14:58trashcan yes
15:07once last time you you said you can't
15:10remember the last time earlier today
15:12that you took the trash out to the trash
15:14can right am I wrong I mean because you
15:18said you'd like stayed inside the hole
15:21the whole weekend I think because you
15:23had all your food and all that you never
15:26went to Kroger over the weekend or
15:29Walmart or anything that's good of when
15:37you go to Kroger when you do go to the
15:40store to get your food do you use a
15:42credit card you pay cash cash you have a
15:46Kroger card yes okay so the krohler card
15:50should be able to tell if you were a
15:51Kroger this weekend right yes
16:01do you swipe your car just enter your
16:03cellphone number
16:05well because I into my phone for the can
16:08never remember bring the car bet you
16:14don't remember if you went over to bait
16:15you drive your car do you walk over
16:17there you ever go to the Walmart on the
16:21east town of Green Hill away or which
16:24Walmart do you go to when you go to
16:26Walmart
16:27you don't ever go out to zetlen row no
16:30thanks I've been out there you know
16:33where's that little road the new Walmart
16:35no you know so you're just basically
16:39going along railway yes
16:43do you know where you're at a nunnery
16:46yes where are you a detective bureau and
16:53you know why we've been working all day
16:56trying to find Lauren Ryan yes
16:59cuz her family wants to know where she's
17:00over yes and I don't know what to tell
17:03her family so I'm asking you what do I
17:07need to tell her family I don't know
17:10what do you want me to tell them I don't
17:12know
17:13well you're gonna have to tell me what
17:18to tell her family
17:20how long you brother what do you wanted
17:24me to tell her family I need to know
17:34okay so something happened to Laura and
17:40you know you need to tell me if you know
17:46something because I need to know because
17:49their families down here want to know
17:53what happened to her
18:01you don't know no that's what you only
18:05tell her mother when our Father that you
18:07don't know not that you're sorry that
18:11she's missing out that you've been
18:13trying to help me all day find her but
18:15you just wanted me to tell her I don't
18:17know nor are you a sorry piece of [ __ ]
18:21that you want me to tell her that you
18:26got your ass on that [ __ ] news it
18:29stood out there and gave a media report
18:33that her mother saw about her missing
18:38daughter and you want me to sit there
18:42and tell them that you don't know that
18:46what you want me to tell them cuz you're
18:49all over the news you sure stood out
18:53there and ran your mouth to the news
18:54media but now you're gonna get out here
18:56and you don't [ __ ] know you know
19:01you're just a sorry piece of [ __ ] that
19:04don't give a [ __ ] right well why'd you
19:11tell the media everybody do you need to
19:14see what you told to meet you today it
19:16was on the 11 o'clock news well I'm
19:18asking you tell me I want to know I
19:23don't know that ain't what you told the
19:26media you didn't stand in front that
19:32camera and say I don't know I don't know
19:35I don't know
19:47right about all these weapons was your
19:52in the military no what do you need all
19:57these weapons for or are you scared
19:59somebody's gonna hurt you know what do
20:03you know these weapons for why there's a
20:07reason why were you molested as a child
20:11no don't why do you need all these
20:13weapons
20:15why give me one good reason
20:20just give me one reason why does it make
20:25you feel important yeah hmm are you a
20:30big guy cuz you got a weapon no do you
20:33even know how to use it yes I need you
20:38to tell me what you want me to tell her
20:40mother and that I won't ask you another
20:43thing I'm not gonna tell her mother that
20:45you don't know because her mother saw
20:47you on the news tonight and she cried
20:50all the way down to make up because you
20:54had the balls to get on the news and
20:56tell everybody everything you didn't
21:01have no problem talking in the news and
21:02last two questions I'm asking you
21:07questions where's Lauren yes you do know
21:13you do know you do know you know you
21:22know
21:25you do know and everybody making though
21:30she knows cuz you got your sorry how
21:32someone dues and totally everybody so
21:35every friend you have in Macon knows
21:38that you know everybody old school with
21:45every one of your professors everybody
21:49knows that you know because you got on
21:53the news tonight and told everybody that
21:55you know how do you think hmm
22:04thank you gonna be a walk down the
22:06street tomorrow and nobody bother you
22:08hmm thank nobody's gonna come over to
22:16see if you won't talk the meeting again
22:19no oh they're gonna be over there
22:21brother so this little act that you're
22:26doing right now ain't working with me
22:30okay
22:31because you didn't have no problem
22:33talking to the media no problem so you
22:41just snap out of and tell me what they
22:43let them so we can move on I don't know
22:50how many times you gonna say I don't
22:52know
22:56how many times gonna say it what are you
23:02gonna say I remember don't want to
23:05remember what happened to her how many
23:08times you don't say that if you did
23:13something that you regret you let me
23:20know I didn't I don't know well body was
23:28found over here right next to where you
23:30live
23:32what are you having your apartments a
23:35lot of noise a lot of guns right yes
23:51I'm asking you about it and you're just
23:56saying I don't know I saw that's the
23:59only answer you can give us I don't know
24:01it's six hours or a couple hours ago you
24:03was out there telling the media
24:04everything you didn't stand in front
24:06that cameras I don't know you actually
24:09answering questions right coming
24:15interviewed you give three you gave like
24:20three do you think that was a proper
24:24thing to do well my mother's looking for
24:26a child and what'd you tell him what did
24:33you tell was missing okay what else to
24:38tell what what else do they Ashton why
24:53don't you remember you're telling me
24:57that you went through law school well
25:02you want through college first right you
25:04graduate from college
25:05yes now you're in law school did you
25:07graduate from law school yeah but you
25:09don't [ __ ] remember what they asked
25:10you to say afternoon so that you talk to
25:25him about his guns yeah moves last time
25:27you shot those guns you've never shot a
25:30gun had you ever saw any gun in your
25:33whole life never so you bought three
25:40guns just you've never shot yes why for
25:46what for what I'm asking for what why do
25:52you want to have them what make did they
25:54give you I mean tell me why it's
25:55important to you to have three guns
26:03that's an easy question come on talk to
26:06me buddy
26:07I mean you've talked all day today we've
26:09had a problem communicate why is it
26:12important for you to have three guns do
26:18you not know no okay you got a
26:23girlfriend no who's your best friend
26:27Michael Michael who yeah who is he is he
26:35just does he still officer when was the
26:40last time you talked to him how long ago
26:44was that
26:45a few weeks like a month two months two
26:49weeks three weeks what beginning of June
26:58okay so let me ask you a question huh
27:04you say you don't know where Lauren is
27:06right you said you told me earlier you
27:10and I were friends right
27:11yes how would you describe y'all's
27:15relationship she was your friend
27:20what did you ever do things for she ever
27:23do things for you what did she ever do
27:24for you we we talk what y'all talk about
27:29news the news okay
27:35earlier he was telling me something
27:37about you fix her computer before I
27:39couldn't fix it you couldn't fix it what
27:43was wrong with it how long ago was that
27:51well how long ago was that middle of May
27:56so you were over in her apartment in the
27:58middle of May yes
28:00have you been over there since there yes
28:02when was the last time you drove there
28:06before last night have you ever been
28:09over there with Lauren since the time
28:11you worked on her computer in the middle
28:12of a
28:13No how many times have you been for a
28:16problem with our hangout you don't know
28:29if you had to guess what was just I mean
28:33one time two times three times what
28:38maybe two maybe to see if I had only
28:42been somewhere twice I could remember
28:45that if I had been there over fifty
28:48times and you asked me how many times
28:50I'd be like I don't know a lot but the
28:52fact that you've only been there twice
28:53when I say how many times been in saying
28:55you don't know that's just odd to me
28:58does that make sense to you yes that
29:02does make some what so what I'm saying
29:03right now make sense no when was the
29:12last time you saw the one and you have
29:16you been on vacation for the last couple
29:17weeks
29:18no you been home every night yes
29:21has she been at home every night I don't
29:23know has she been on vacation
29:28hello were you looking for no let me
29:35tell you even if I didn't talk to my
29:38neighbors I know if my neighbors have
29:41been in and out I hear him come in and I
29:43him go out I see him when they walk by
29:45my window I lived in apartments most of
29:47my life so the fact that you haven't
29:50seen her in two or three weeks that's
29:52just odd to me
29:53I hope it makes me feel like you're not
29:55being honest with me Stephen why would
30:00you not be honest with me Stephen it
30:04just doesn't feel like it buddy
30:05you know I get the sense that there's
30:11something weighing heavy on your heart
30:12right now and it's breaking you down and
30:18you feel bad about it I can tell you you
30:22haven't slept much have
30:24in the last few days have you know like
30:27something's weighing on your mind name
30:29it you started looking for long
30:32yesterday yes but you haven't slept in
30:35several days have you yes you have yeah
30:39earlier when I talked to you you said
30:41you hadn't slept in days that this
30:43morning was the first time he was able
30:44to get any sleep was this morning put a
30:46little bit no yes that's what you said
30:52that's what you told me so I asked you
30:59if you have never was sleeping several
31:01days what have you been doing study and
31:02you said yesterday you don't remember
31:06that
31:16what I want you to do I'm gonna ask you
31:19this question I want you to describe to
31:22me how you feel right now
31:32you don't know how to answer that with a
31:34yes or no did I don't know Laurens
31:42missing this pretty little girl right
31:47here your neighbor she's missing I know
31:56you went looking for last night yes
32:00did you hurt on no Stephen did you hurt
32:05Lauren no I know this is hard for you to
32:10tell it but it's weighing on you right
32:13now you know Stephen probably help me
32:19with her did you buddy I don't know
32:28stealing you know and I mean you both
32:33know it's no different than when you was
32:34a little kid right and you reached in
32:38that cookie jar and you got caught after
32:40your mama told you not to get that
32:41cooking well sure you did you get a
32:43cookie no and whenever you tell a lie
32:46you feel bad about it right then one
32:49with every light is a chance you're
32:52gonna get caught and that weighs on you
32:57because you know you did something bad
33:02all right you're gonna take the cookie
33:14what you do buddy I didn't do anything
33:20what you do alone
33:22I didn't do anything you saw wrong last
33:26night though yesterday no what time was
33:31it that she went out to do a laundry I
33:33don't know where were you at yesterday
33:37at home what did you do at home tell me
33:41everything you did yesterday
33:43the only time you woke up to the time
33:46you went to sleep I checked the news
33:53at what time remember was it yesterday
33:57morning
33:59what'd you do when you woke up the news
34:06okay
34:15but to do after that I watched some
34:20videos online to clean up no you did no
34:28you smell like you've been cleaning up
34:31like you've been using cleaner to clean
34:32up I know what that smells like my wife
34:35smells like that all the time when she
34:37cleans our house you've been using some
34:40kind of cleaner to clean up your
34:41apartment have you know Steven you tell
34:44me you live it like a minute how does
34:46your apartment get cleaned I cleaned it
34:49okay when was the last time you cleaned
34:52this TV I don't remember
34:55was it this week no you mean you go a
34:59whole week without cleaning yes Wow
35:02that's horrible Steven was it possibly
35:06over the weekend last weekend no it
35:10wasn't if you can't remember then how is
35:14it that you can tell me that you didn't
35:16clean up your apartment last weekend min
35:20ago you couldn't remember so it isn't
35:30that you didn't is that you just don't
35:32remember all right
35:42help me out buddy right I don't
35:48understand just don't understand
35:57I don't know how else to say it Stephen
36:00let me tell you what I think I think
36:03that she was a friend of yours look at
36:06it right here I think that she was a
36:09friend of yours
36:11and I think something happens to you we
36:20used to watch her come in and out of her
36:22apartment didn't you know I mean then
36:27how would y'all friends it y'all if me
36:29and you friends we live next door to
36:31each other every time I sneak a couple
36:33to see y'all that's my buddy going in
36:36because we're friends I'm gonna pay
36:38attention to with you coming in now
36:40didn't you just tell me to talk we're
36:42friends
36:42yes but you don't even pay attention
36:45once you came in and out no Stephen
36:49you're lying now your honor
36:52you're just lying that's a lot you ever
36:58see her come in and out of her apartment
37:00yes you did when was the last time you
37:06don't remember like last week maybe
37:08Thanks you don't think so Stephen you
37:14understand that everything that you're
37:15saying it doesn't make any sense at all
37:18no no you totally contradict everything
37:25that relates to human behavior we have
37:28skills to be able to observe things to
37:30hear things to see things there are
37:32natural things out there to draw our
37:34attention every day such as when you're
37:36driving down the road if somebody hits
37:38the horn you look around you don't I'm
37:41saying that's it the natural reaction if
37:44you're sitting in your living room you
37:45hear the door slam next to you
37:47automatically think my name is Homer
37:49right you you're telling me that those
37:53kind of things don't happen in your
37:54lives you asked if I watched I didn't
38:00watch have you noticed that she's came
38:02in and out of our house in the last week
38:04or two
38:15what do you remember Steve the last time
38:19I saw I was 2 or 3 weeks ago
38:22do where she was going out running when
38:26I was coming in what were you coming in
38:28from bar preparation
38:32what's the board preparation oh you're
38:36preparing for the bar exam yes ok no
38:42we're just talking you never seem to
38:45really remember a whole lot
38:50everything's yes or no I don't remember
38:53a lot of things don't making these I got
38:57to be honest with you Stephen
38:58me personally I don't feel like you're
39:02being honest okay what Stevie says he's
39:07gonna help me out right with this
39:09investigation because we needed your
39:11help we're asking you for help right
39:13that's what we remember I told you that
39:16yes and you told me you're gonna help
39:18Matt right you're gonna help me find
39:21Lauren right yes and I asked for your
39:25opinion your observation of what
39:26happened on tour what did you tell me
39:37where do you think someone might have
39:39snatched her from if you're the detect
39:42if you're the police detective it's your
39:45investigation where would you start your
39:49investigation you watch TV right yes
39:58okay
39:59you may have to college right yes you
40:02made it just about through law school
40:03art yes so you should know where would
40:08you start your investigation
40:12she was last seen okay so in this case
40:17where was she last seen
40:19Darren's house Darrin that's the guy
40:24lives up on Street right friend of hers
40:27yes okay all right and that was on I
40:33think she left there on Saturday morning
40:36yeah am i right
40:37okay now where do you think she went
40:42from their house all right you're the
40:47Technic now all right
40:49sure case what would you do
40:56we did that that's what he did today
41:01right so you saw was out there she's not
41:07there you know I need your help and
41:14father what do we need to do what do we
41:20need to do that we haven't done you
41:24don't know so if you had this case you
41:29wouldn't be able to solve his overtures
41:30laughs cuz you're not smart enough to
41:33solve it or you think you're smart
41:36enough to bit of data no you gotta be
41:43killing me Steven Thank You Steven so
41:48Steven listen to me we're real people
41:52and we're here to talk to you which I
41:54wear I'd like to think that we're
41:57friends okay friends communicate back
42:00and forth the only thing you've said is
42:03yes or no one I don't know okay
42:05it makes me feel like you're treating me
42:08like you don't like me and I feel like
42:10I've looked out for you today everything
42:13you said you wanted I've given you I've
42:15tried to give you food several times you
42:18know I feel like we've talked you told
42:20me about how you like to look at
42:21on the internet do to express to me that
42:25you're a virgin correct yes I mean
42:27that's the kind of stuff you tell
42:28friends you know what I'm saying
42:30right yes we need we need to know where
42:34your other cars out I know you have I
42:35already know you own another car okay
42:39use another call
42:40you've have another car it's not in your
42:42name no you don't you've been using
42:46somebody else's car yeah everyone I
42:50interviewed today say you have another
42:51car these people aren't making this up
42:55you have another vehicle so your
43:02grandfather's a liar so what's your son
43:04yeah you're calling your grandfather a
43:09liar I just talked to her and he said
43:12you owned another car so he's lied to me
43:19Stephen we're telling way too many lies
43:22okay so you're telling me they're like
43:24with other tell me that you're a virgin
43:27and that you told me you jack off the
43:29porn on the internet but you don't want
43:31to admit to having another call that
43:33makes me think you got something to hide
43:34Stephen that concerns me you tell me
43:38things that most people wouldn't tell
43:39somebody else but yeah you lie about
43:41something sorry did you have another car
43:44what's the big deal I got three calls
43:47you do it's not a joke what happened to
43:51it that's the only car you've ever had
43:54in Macon yes okay let me go talk to them
43:57again that's not what he's saying
44:06Stephen
44:11what happened alone
44:13yeah do you like her don't you
44:17did you ever think about having sex with
44:19her no you never tried to talk to her on
44:23a dating level let me go talk they got
44:27his grandfather let me go talk make sure
44:29that he owns another car because he's
44:33telling us he does so you telling me
44:43she's a pretty girl
44:44yes you're telling me you that a pretty
44:47girl like that you never once stopped
44:49ever man she looks good you never
44:57thought that understand what do you mean
45:07you don't understand did you know when
45:09you said me to see a girl walking down
45:10the road did you say man that girl looks
45:14good you said good-looking girl when you
45:15think yourself many a girl looks good
45:17yes you never thought that about her yes
45:22so you mean to tell me you look at porn
45:25on the internet and get off to that but
45:29you never look to her and said man I
45:31wonder would it be like to have sex with
45:33her yes you have no have you ever
45:40thought about what it would be like to
45:42have sex with on No you've never
45:44imagined having sex go on no have you
45:47ever had sex wrong no what do you know
45:53about that body we found today I don't
45:56know you don't know
46:09what if I told you that I believe that
46:14you do no I don't what if I told you
46:18that I could prove it I don't know you
46:22don't know is there a chance but you do
46:28admit that there's a chance that I
46:30possibly have evidence to show that you
46:32do have something to do with that body
46:34correct I don't know you don't know
46:40because if I hadn't done anything I say
46:43no there's no way but you say you don't
46:47know why is that why do you say you
46:49don't know is there a chance that maybe
46:51something's there know why did you say
46:54you don't know because I don't know
46:56because you're worried about something
46:58maybe something happened that maybe
47:00something got mixed up with something
47:02and you're worried about that know the
47:04way you say I don't know how would you
47:10not know if I was asking you did you
47:17just rob a bank if you didn't you'd say
47:19no not I don't know
47:21right so why did you say I don't know I
47:25don't know you don't know if you had
47:27anything to do with that body
47:28I didn't you didn't know are you sure
47:33yes what if I said I could prove that
47:37you did I don't know could you explain
47:44it I don't know today you told an
47:49investigator that you were worried about
47:55us possibly finding blood in your
47:57apartment did youdid now why would you
48:04be worried about that did you see blood
48:11then what would make you think that that
48:14there was blood taking over there
48:16nothing would make you think that unless
48:19you saw it go see I didn't see no blood
48:24none of other lords Flynn saw blood but
48:27I know now that blood was there and now
48:32I believe you saw it you saw that blood
48:36you know that blood was there and that's
48:40why you're worried about it you know did
48:45you know
48:46why did you have blood up in the inside
48:47of your nose
48:57you don't know but you saw that blood
49:01that's the only way that you would be
49:03worried about it because that's like
49:05saying I'm worried about red roses being
49:12under my pillow but yet I never put them
49:15there that doesn't make any sense you
49:17know your brain doesn't even think to
49:21operate like that unless you knew
49:23something was there
49:25does that make sense
49:28that makes sense - you're a smart guy
49:30right you knew that there was blood in
49:39that apartment no yes you did Stephen
49:45yes you did
49:49there's blood in your apartment Stephen
49:56that's right that's blood in your
50:00apartment
50:02Stephen this is hard buddy I noticed
50:05this hole and I can tell it's something
50:08you want to let it go
50:10there's blood in your apartment Stephen
50:12you didn't get it all up it didn't all
50:15come off you're scrubbing you white but
50:19we can tell that don't you watch CSI
50:25yeah we know it
50:33Stephen why is there blood in your
50:36bathroom yes you do know why Stephen
50:41does anybody else be in your bathroom
50:44the police were in there other than the
50:47police who else has been in there no no
50:53one and you recently cleaned your
50:56bathroom didn't you know how long ago a
51:00couple days ago
51:03over the weekend no no you don't know do
51:11you use drugs no you ever use acid no
51:14are you your own medication No
51:27July instead I want to give you an
51:31opportunity to tell it I wanted to be
51:35here with you to go through that process
51:38because I know you're not a monster man
51:40I know you're not a bad guy just a
51:45hard-working student trying to pass the
51:47bar exam imagine you got a lot of
51:50support from your family yes you do a
51:53lot of people can't say that and the
51:57fact that you do have support from your
51:58family should make things easier did
52:01your family wants to feel like they've
52:03raised somebody that tells the truth and
52:04it's honest right yes
52:07did you hurt that girl Stephen no had
52:12you ever heard anyone Stephen
52:28never hurt anyone no I've heard people
52:31Steven I've made mistakes in my life
52:37it's not even normal say you've never
52:39hurt anybody
52:41sometimes people get mad they say things
52:44they don't mean to say it hurts you
52:46never keep the dog or a cat you ever
52:51hurt your the kids they live up there
52:53with your parents
52:54hmm you love those kids don't you yes
52:58okay there's something happening one of
53:01those kids you'd be upset right yes well
53:06something happened to this lady's child
53:10Laura okay you love your all the kids up
53:16there with your mom all right
53:17yes then you do anything for them right
53:21yeah I made that college and said hey we
53:23need you help us out you'd help them out
53:26right yes we need you to help us out
53:30okay tell me about your family
53:36I have four siblings but you love very
53:41much right yes okay what about your mama
53:47about your daddy
53:49he's a painter
53:52cause family y'all close yes whose last
53:59time you talked Oh what was that
54:07she go up there to see them are they
54:10come yes yes they bring all the kids
54:30with them yes they can't come back a
54:35mango they ask you how you're doing the
54:40school when everywhere
54:42yes you had Toro detective Chapman that
54:52you've never shot any of those guns that
54:54were in your apartment yes have you no
54:58well you've never went to the shooting
55:00range here in making it did some
55:02shooting hmm no any guy no you never had
55:12did you make the mistake in tow people
55:13at school they choose to go the shooting
55:15range and shoot no you've never sat down
55:18no do you even know how to load yes SKS
55:25is that net that was an SKS right no it
55:28was a sight well signed by just
55:33different you not alowed it yes we kind
55:36of round the table 76230 okay what's the
55:42capacity of that clip that you had 30
55:45rounds
55:48hello the magazine is full okay got a
55:54round in the chamber
55:54No Wow safer that way
55:59safer it's just you in the parlor right
56:03yes why do you think it's safer that way
56:11mommy no one lives with you just you
56:16let's control distance well how do you
56:19know that oh what the computer yes what
56:32about your pistols you never fire any of
56:36those pistols no were they loaded
56:40tonight magazine I made the full-size
56:52one of the compact one compact and
56:59you've never even fired any of those
57:01weapons no where do you buy your ammo
57:03have you ever purchased any ammo we're
57:06making yes from where
57:08hey to Z guns and viable was that on
57:12viable Avenue yes ones the last time you
57:14lazy guns years ago
57:17do you have a permit yeah carry over you
57:21do here in Bibb County yes you applied
57:29when he was working out at the county er
57:31typified last fall so you have your car
57:36yes so with you yes
57:39cassia
57:43to make they still make you take your
57:44finger for a dollar yes let me see your
57:47car how much does it cost Milo
57:52do you remember around $80 so it expires
58:02of 2016 yes
58:06are you having pictures of the kids
58:09hmm no they didn't give you no pictures
58:12when they were in school now picture
58:15your parents no do you have no pictures
58:18no at all not even in Charlotte you have
58:22so much apartment so what are the kids
58:27call you Stephen okay so you're just a
58:32brother or uncle or brother brother
58:35Stephen none of them ever come visit you
58:37here I'm making
58:56about this car when you first moved to
59:00making did you have another automobile
59:02no never know when you moved to make an
59:07S you brought that Geo Prizm with yes
59:10you never left a car back there at your
59:13mother's no why did you tell her about
59:15school that you had that other vehicle I
59:19didn't
59:21so everyone we talked to just made that
59:24story up about you talking about your
59:27other vehicle I don't have another
59:31vehicle when's the last time you've been
59:36to Kroger in Bakersfield
59:40okay because I asked you that was the
59:43last time you were at Walmart this has
59:49been a long time can you even give me
59:51that much know a week or so maybe do you
59:59even have a credit card
1:00:00yes which credit card ooh you used the
1:00:03most Lisa this is just a bank name or
1:00:07just a visa first Financial Bank is a
1:00:10hair/makeup
1:00:11no first financial you got a bank
1:00:15account with them no well whose account
1:00:18did you sent you have ezel you don't
1:00:21have a bank account you putting all your
1:00:27money in your house with all the food
1:00:29you go to Newark I have an account with
1:00:31Wachovia here in Macon yes do you buy
1:00:36your stuff at Walmart with this Visa
1:00:38Card
1:00:39no oh how do you usually pay for stuff
1:00:42at Walmart with cash do you have a job
1:00:46no how do you get cash student loans so
1:00:52you're just living off your student
1:00:53almost yes
1:01:04so you hadn't worked like a job in a
1:01:07while yeah all right are you plan on
1:01:13getting a job yes because your loans are
1:01:19gonna run out sooner or later right yes
1:01:28how long you got left to finish school
1:01:31are you finished completely yes why are
1:01:35you planning on moving out of that
1:01:36apartment I mean what's your lease
1:01:40well July 15 where are you planning on
1:01:43going when you move out back to my
1:01:46parents
1:01:47where's that
1:01:56do you even know your mother's phone
1:01:57number I was what's the error code
1:02:02better seven seven eight five zero three
1:02:07one what's your mother's not it glenda
1:02:15has she ever had a drug problem
1:02:17no she's been home your whole entire
1:02:21life raising yeah mostly
1:02:23where was she wants you to look mostly
1:02:25babies on ya preschool chef
1:02:28schoolteacher as long yes
1:02:43do you know how I've already told you
1:02:46that there was a body discovered right
1:02:48and the trash containers over there near
1:02:52your apartment do you know how that body
1:02:56got in the trashcan no do you have any
1:03:02black trash bags in your apartment like
1:03:06that you use for trash no do you can you
1:03:11help me do you know where any black
1:03:12trash bags are and an apartment complex
1:03:15have you ever seen any around has
1:03:19someone been over there cleaning up or
1:03:22have you ever seen by painting that
1:03:24apartment
1:03:25have you seen any painters because your
1:03:28home most of the day right have you seen
1:03:31any of that no do you know what the
1:03:34garbage man usually comes over there no
1:03:38do you know anything yes you know I
1:03:44asked you for out what do you know you
1:03:47haven't provided me with nothing what's
1:03:53the last time you were in that laundry
1:03:54round up our eyes last night
1:03:57what were you doing last night
1:04:02did y'all see anything unusual or out of
1:04:05place no there was one washer that had
1:04:10clothes in it was called war baby you
1:04:12know Luke said they look like a guy's
1:04:15clothes but you never look in the
1:04:18machine
1:04:29what kind of knife did you have on these
1:04:31annoying where'd you have it at your
1:04:36front pocket yes
1:04:42do you own any Sol's or anything like
1:04:46that no there's not anything in your car
1:04:51is there no the trunk or am I know
1:04:55when's the last time you've actually
1:04:57drove it all like went somewhere in the
1:05:01car in the past few days all right
1:05:07today's what's now Friday but yesterday
1:05:12was Thursday that's when you met me yes
1:05:14have you drove during your car this week
1:05:16at all yes what you don't want me what
1:05:25do you remember about your car I drove
1:05:27to Kruger in Bagan spill across the
1:05:31river when what do you think that might
1:05:34have been you don't remember
1:05:48why would you go to Kroger to get
1:05:52something what dinner we got a lot of
1:05:56food in your eyes right yes
1:06:00what day do you think that might have
1:06:02been was it over the weekend
1:06:06no was a Monday thinks was a Tuesday I
1:06:14don't think what day would you think it
1:06:17was if you had to pick a day all day was
1:06:19you hungry are
1:06:28Wednesday maybe Wednesday you don't
1:06:34remember what you bought dinner frozen
1:06:38dinner
1:06:39I like the frozen section microwave
1:06:42dinner
1:06:43no no frozen a cooking oven yes you go
1:06:52over there by yourself yes you go
1:06:58anywhere else at night just on the
1:07:02program who came home yes would you go
1:07:06anywhere this week like I'll know
1:07:09shopping at the mall or looking at guns
1:07:12at ANZ or just go anywhere else
1:07:16no was the last time you cleaned your
1:07:19car I haven't since I got it back
1:07:23where'd you get it back from my parents
1:07:27would they have so what did you come get
1:07:34your car yes so they came to making got
1:07:39your car and left the wreck was down
1:07:41here oh and make him yes so they were
1:07:46staying with you when they were in the
1:07:47ring no what were they doing to make him
1:07:53the van was going to give work time here
1:07:56I'm a con yes well where's the van that
1:07:59now they got it back it was totaled so
1:08:04they were in making and they get they
1:08:06were in a wreck and make him mine was
1:08:09and she was down here making because the
1:08:14air conditioner was mouth why was she a
1:08:17making though because there's a place in
1:08:21Macon it's the best
1:08:24here and you told her about to come down
1:08:27and make and to get her air conditioner
1:08:28fixed no well how do you know that she
1:08:33told me so she just drove to make Anika
1:08:36their air conditioner fixed yes she was
1:08:38in a wreck
1:08:39yes tore out her car her van
1:08:42yes came to your house to get your car I
1:08:46drove her back I was following he drove
1:08:54her back to where to my apartment where
1:08:58was the valium
1:08:59it was towed okay cuz it's told she stay
1:09:03at your apartment spent a night with you
1:09:05no she stayed just a few minutes and
1:09:08leave or what she's take about an hour
1:09:12was the last time you talked to your
1:09:14mother Glenda I don't remember the pedal
1:09:18wall spin the detainees do you call her
1:09:23every day no you don't check on the kids
1:09:26yeah show me that scratch again that you
1:09:35showed me earlier that was it all what
1:09:40would you say happen there do you think
1:09:42I scratched myself in my sleep
1:09:50are you gonna be able to help me with
1:09:52this case or not because I need to tell
1:09:54the parents something huh I don't know
1:09:59you don't know what you don't know what
1:10:02happened to help why don't you know if
1:10:05you can help because I don't know I know
1:10:07what you need I need to know if you know
1:10:13where Lawrence are do you know who took
1:10:16long I know you told me that if you were
1:10:19working occasion to thank somebody would
1:10:21take her when she was running why would
1:10:24you say that when we looked in her
1:10:26apartment there was no sign it was
1:10:28broken into okay so you're figuring some
1:10:35of my mother took her while she was out
1:10:36running yeah sure so yeah did you see
1:10:40her go running this weekend at all
1:10:42yeah that would help if you did what
1:10:47time is she normally run at night or
1:10:50daytime
1:10:51can you at least tell me that did she
1:10:56like to run into early morning or the
1:10:57late night the last time I saw her was
1:11:01midday like noonish yes she was going
1:11:07running when I was coming back from bar
1:11:09crap is that been a while two or three
1:11:14weeks
1:11:18she speak to you no you just just saw
1:11:24her outright I was in my car well did
1:11:29you see her when you're like pulling in
1:11:30the parking lot you just saw her running
1:11:32down the road was she outside her
1:11:36apartment getting ready to go run or was
1:11:38she already running at the time you saw
1:11:40her
1:11:40already okay she was by running by
1:11:43herself yes
1:11:45didn't have a doll with her did she know
1:11:51did you feel long with everybody when
1:11:53you work down with the district
1:11:55attorney's office yes
1:11:56no problems no would you like doing what
1:12:00you used to do down there or what yes
1:12:09who did you work for I mean who was
1:12:12there how about everybody were you
1:12:15assigned to just a certain person mainly
1:12:20Jonathan Adams how long do you work down
1:12:24there listening semester you enjoy doing
1:12:29that kind of work
1:12:30yes so you should be able to help me
1:12:33right yes cuz you're on our side
1:12:35right yes all right what do you think I
1:12:40need to do I don't know
1:12:42there we go again with that I don't know
1:12:45come on now you can give me some advice
1:12:47right you can't give me some advice
1:12:56what you do next
1:13:04you can't tell me what you think I
1:13:06should do next well we found a bodice
1:13:12I thought the apartment right we know
1:13:14that right yes you saying you didn't
1:13:19hear her see anything the light the
1:13:21whole time you've been there over the
1:13:22weekend right right we've talked to you
1:13:25right right
1:13:27we've talked to most of all her friends
1:13:29is there anybody else we need to talk to
1:13:31that you might know that we didn't let's
1:13:38talk about the farmer complex anybody in
1:13:40that complex of world anybody else
1:13:42believe this holiday
1:13:58who lives below you will they home
1:14:04tonight today you did Sam no do you ever
1:14:11sail yes but you don't know if they were
1:14:18home today she doesn't have a car so
1:14:24it's really hard to tell her all yes do
1:14:27you ever talk to her yes she work
1:14:32anywhere I don't know do you ever get
1:14:37tired of saying I don't know
1:14:48what else you got on your wallet there
1:14:50brother my bear card
1:14:53what's that used for what else you got
1:15:01my bank card my credit card got the card
1:15:10to use it bro
1:15:11yes since you don't know the last time
1:15:24you were there I'm assuming you used
1:15:28your card when you were there yes
1:15:42you can remember that you always use
1:15:44your car but you can't remember the last
1:15:45time you were there I always used my car
1:15:48what if you didn't use my Porter's car
1:16:07car
1:16:13my
1:16:23voter registration what's up Marcia
1:16:30what's that
1:16:31Mercer lock 1/2 card what's it he's a
1:16:34free cab ride home
1:16:35that's just to follow MERS companies
1:16:39like Game Stop don't follow numbers
1:16:52anything
1:17:03okay put your money back you better so
1:17:06hunter dollar bill above that we roll
1:17:09with all that money you're five four
1:17:23do you take any medication no have you
1:17:28ever taken any medication no you got
1:17:32wrong you know it's crazy I was talking
1:17:45people that he works with and everything
1:17:46they talk about how he's always
1:17:47expresses himself but they don't know
1:17:50he's very talkative didn't they say
1:17:52you're so talkative buddy that you
1:17:54always so friendly you stop in and say
1:17:56hello and you told what why is it that
1:17:59you're acting so short with us tonight
1:18:01if you have all this Cape no personality
1:18:03about you why is it that everything that
1:18:06we get from you yes nor I don't know are
1:18:12you sure we're talking to the media
1:18:14tonight
1:18:15weren't they asked what happened that's
1:18:21what we're asking you what happened what
1:18:22you tell them you just knew that you
1:18:26didn't know hmm do you drink it all do
1:18:34you drink beer no Steve
1:18:48you know we have to go through our best
1:18:55resources when we're trying to do
1:18:56anything you know it's kind of like the
1:18:59guy who wants to get his oil change to
1:19:00go surgically you know what I'm saying
1:19:02we're looking for long and you said you
1:19:05were her friend on to her friend yes
1:19:09y'all good friends yes how did the
1:19:12friends all y'all by how do the friends
1:19:19you don't understand you don't
1:19:23understand how to do the friends all off
1:19:27how's it it brings all y'all y'all close
1:19:33friends just acquaintances study I mean
1:19:39I've been a friends y'all we're friends
1:19:43I got really good friends no you don't
1:19:48know how do you not know if you're not a
1:19:50really good friend let me ask you this
1:19:53maybe you're saying that because you
1:19:55don't know how she feels about you how
1:19:59do you feel about her do you consider
1:20:01her a really good friend
1:20:04she's a friend but not a really good
1:20:07friend you don't know how do you not
1:20:11know I don't know oh you're really close
1:20:18no no you're not
1:20:21no so y'all you never told her any of
1:20:24your personal business
1:20:25no she ever tell you any of hers no do
1:20:30you ever see her upset
1:20:32no she was always a happy person wasn't
1:20:35she yes
1:20:44why are you acting like this Stephen you
1:20:50see I'm able to talk in complete
1:20:52sentences like we're having a
1:20:55conversation but the only thing you're
1:20:57bringing to the table is that yes
1:20:59nowhere I don't know why is that stephen
1:21:06i don't ii don't understand what don't
1:21:13you understand I want to be able to help
1:21:18you to commit to be able to communicate
1:21:19with me better than that Stephen I
1:21:21thought we can help each other
1:21:31Stephen did you hurt that girl no do you
1:21:38know where she's that no would you tell
1:21:42me if you did yes
1:21:55and you lied to me at all in this
1:21:57interview no yes you have Steven you
1:22:04said you have when you say you don't
1:22:07know when the last time you cleaned your
1:22:10bathroom is that's a lot when you say
1:22:17you don't know the last time you saw her
1:22:20coming and out of her apartment you
1:22:21don't notice whether or not she comes in
1:22:23and out that's another lie your door was
1:22:27only a few feet from her you've told
1:22:34some lies in this interview Stephen
1:22:39without a doubt whose last time you did
1:22:44laundry few weeks ago
1:22:47you ain't wash clothes in a few weeks
1:22:50yeah Wow no you don't that's another lie
1:23:02that's right that's three live Steve you
1:23:05don't have a lot of clothes yes I do No
1:23:13you got enough underwear to last you
1:23:15three weeks
1:23:16yes do you wear the same pair underwear
1:23:20more than one day yes why because it's
1:23:26still freezing out to wear
1:23:35Stephen I appreciate you coming down
1:23:37here today and talking to us okay
1:23:39I appreciate you cooperating with us and
1:23:43then helping us along but you've lied to
1:23:47me about at least three things in this
1:23:49interview people don't rely on us they
1:23:53got something to hide why would you lie
1:23:56to me Stephen I didn't lie sir he did
1:24:01you said you don't even notice when she
1:24:03comes in and out of her apartment that's
1:24:06the last either I said I didn't remember
1:24:09the last time have you ever watched her
1:24:12go in our apartment no you never I don't
1:24:15know their neighbors years three years
1:24:18you've never watched her walk through
1:24:19her front door yes five six I said you
1:24:26ever watched her walk into apartment you
1:24:27said no someone asked you if you ever
1:24:34watched her walk into her apartment
1:24:36yes when was the last time hello it's
1:24:47been that long and you graduated Winn
1:24:56be given to me in the main and you
1:25:00hadn't seen her walking her Portman says
1:25:02no did you ever help her carry groceries
1:25:05and stuff like that no never
1:25:08no you have a half a care laundry no
1:25:15she's never needed your help with
1:25:17anything she asks for help with the
1:25:21computer you ever offer help with her
1:25:24free to think and stuff for anything
1:25:26lino yes I was didn't when she was
1:25:30moving out during the first summer what
1:25:35did you do
1:25:35she needed help moving stuff to her car
1:25:39and you helped her
1:25:40yes so you win it out of her apartment
1:25:42moving stuff yes how long did you help
1:25:48her a few minutes that's it yes do you
1:25:54realize how you're talking right now
1:25:55this did not feel weird deed would you
1:25:59say that this is how you talk all the
1:26:02time I don't understand you're just not
1:26:09expressing yourself at all everything is
1:26:13with you yes no I don't remember I don't
1:26:17understand you can't help me out with
1:26:23anything you there's nothing you can
1:26:25tell me to help me about this beautiful
1:26:27girl right here Steven that was your
1:26:29friend
1:26:32nothing you don't let things go down
1:26:35like this I don't know what you want I
1:26:41want the truth Steven I don't know where
1:26:45she is
1:26:46let me ask you this you actually believe
1:26:49you don't know where she is right now
1:26:52where was she yesterday
1:26:57Larr
1:27:08that's right
1:27:10your life
1:27:18why are you lying Stephen yes you are
1:27:22lying how long do you continue to do it
1:27:25she's got a mother and a father and a
1:27:27family out there that is sick over
1:27:30everything where's that little girl
1:27:32Stephen Stephen you know where I don't
1:27:41know Steve you're gonna look at this
1:27:45right here this little girl right here
1:27:48and you're gonna say you don't know I
1:27:50know you know I don't yes you know what
1:27:55are you gonna say tomorrow when I said
1:27:56we got your hair with the body what are
1:28:00you gonna say to me then cuz you know
1:28:04like I go like that look at my hair
1:28:08that's how easy it falls out look at all
1:28:12that on your head you don't think nothin
1:28:15out they did it did Stephen we just want
1:28:25to give you an opportunity to tell it so
1:28:28you didn't look like a monster at the
1:28:29end cuz you know what I don't believe
1:28:31that you're a monster Stephen I believe
1:28:34that you're a good guy you've been
1:28:36picked on girls didn't show you the
1:28:38respect that you deserve you did
1:28:40something stupid and I believe you feel
1:28:43bad about it and that's why you're all
1:28:44freaked out right now but I'm giving you
1:28:48the opportunity to get right I'm giving
1:28:51you an opportunity to show everybody
1:28:53you're not a monster that you feel bad
1:28:55about what happened your hand is there
1:28:58man your hair is there we got your hand
1:29:03with the body
1:29:04how's that Stephen yes you do know
1:29:12yes you do know Stephen
1:29:19that's right buddy see that look at it
1:29:28see how easy it happens and it happened
1:29:36to you why Steven oh you understand you
1:29:48understand exactly what I'm saying see
1:29:50this stuff where I eat your hair yeah it
1:29:53fell out of your head when he was moving
1:29:55the body Steven that's right
1:30:03do you remember moving the body now yes
1:30:08you do Steven Wow man what happened why
1:30:24tell me bud
1:30:27yes you did Steven your hands with the
1:30:30body Quitline we want you to tell it so
1:30:36that way people are understand you're
1:30:38not a monster things just you got out of
1:30:40control
1:30:40it's a sickness why'd you do it Steven
1:30:49Steven what are you gonna keep telling
1:30:52that you heard that girl yes she did
1:30:58Steven you heard her man she was
1:31:05screaming screaming Steven why and I
1:31:14know you'd feel bad about it I could see
1:31:17it in your face
1:31:20what came over you man
1:31:24what happened Steven I don't know I know
1:31:29you don't know
1:31:31you can't you couldn't control it could
1:31:33you Steven how long will we will
1:31:39continue to do this you did
1:31:42why is what I want to know I didn't do
1:31:46it
1:31:50Steven you hurt that girl man and you
1:31:54got on the news today that's right you
1:31:59know what you were talking like this on
1:32:00the news buddy yeah if you hurt this
1:32:09girl yes you did you hurt that girl
1:32:30why'd you hurt her Stephen you hurt that
1:32:34girl
1:32:35if you try to make her have sex with you
1:32:37I didn't call it who did it they got
1:32:41your hair they steal your hair and take
1:32:44it over there
1:32:48Stephen they steal your hair they didn't
1:32:56did they did they Stephen that's right
1:33:04it's all sinking in right now he knows
1:33:09is what you're thinking
1:33:11Stephen I don't want to be a game
1:33:14between me and you I know it hurts and I
1:33:19know you're not an awful person and you
1:33:21want to tell it your hair was there
1:33:23Stephen we've all known that all along
1:33:28we wanted just to give you an
1:33:30opportunity to tell what happened still
1:33:36have sex no just try to have sex no
1:33:43think about having sex liar
1:33:48kind of man didn't think about how to
1:33:50say
1:33:56I said earlier you like girls right yes
1:33:59you said she's a pretty girl right yes
1:34:02what'd you do to her Stephen I didn't do
1:34:05anything you're lying you hurt that girl
1:34:08sure did that's why you're grabbing this
1:34:11massive meltdown right now because you
1:34:13can't live with yourself can you it's
1:34:17overwhelming you in tell the truth
1:34:20Stephen who did it yes you do Stephen
1:34:42Wow
1:34:45why did you hurt that girl I didn't
1:34:49watch her teeth I didn't
1:35:06you hurt that girl
1:35:09sure you did do you know it and I know
1:35:13it you just don't want to tell us do you
1:35:17but that's okay I know it I just wanted
1:35:21to give you an opportunity to tell it so
1:35:23people didn't think you were a monster
1:35:29you're not a monster all you see nobody
1:35:37I know you're not a monster tell me what
1:35:43happened I don't know you tried to have
1:35:47sex with her no she didn't want to have
1:35:49sex with you I didn't do it she didn't
1:35:52want to have sex with you Steve I don't
1:35:55know you don't know if she wanted to
1:35:57have sex with you I didn't do anything
1:36:00you did Steve you went into her
1:36:09apartment speeding and you hurt that
1:36:13girl
1:36:24you heard no I did why won't you tell me
1:36:34Stephen I didn't do it take this with me
1:36:48you don't deserve to look at it just
1:36:50stay right here okay okay I appreciate
1:36:56all your cooperation it tonight okay
1:42:17all right though I just need to discuss
1:42:20a few more things with you you know the
1:42:24reason why we're down is because
1:42:25Lauren's missing right yeah I just need
1:42:28you to please tell me give me a where I
1:42:38know earlier today you told me you
1:42:39stayed home all weekend right in your
1:42:41apartment yes you know did anybody see
1:42:50you did you talk to anybody over the
1:42:52weekend were you on your computer all
1:42:55weekend is there any thing I can look at
1:42:58that I can say he couldn't be involved
1:43:03because he was on the computer or he was
1:43:08online on a porn site or he was online
1:43:12doing college work or anything that
1:43:15would exclude you is being involved
1:43:18altogether I mean did anybody see you
1:43:22this weekend at the house did you go out
1:43:25to get a newspaper did you wave to a
1:43:29neighbor or just locked yourself in all
1:43:31week yes nobody saw you know I mean what
1:43:37are you just stay in the house all day
1:43:39yes what do you do all day in Isles play
1:43:43video games by yourself yes you never
1:43:48talk to anybody on the phone well who
1:43:53coach Harun I mean you've always done
1:43:58that troll I you don't have no friends
1:44:00how can you go your whole life without a
1:44:03friend were there
1:44:11we're their friends here making yes
1:44:18name one because their bio talked to
1:44:20said angel for him nine Ranger Cass
1:44:24Clawson
1:44:25Ashley Morehouse the same people I've
1:44:30talked to today and they're not your
1:44:32friend
1:44:33okay not your friend I mean it's all
1:44:48over anyway
1:44:56games over
1:44:57I mean we know what you did to her so we
1:45:02just want to know what you if you go
1:45:04tell us well I didn't do anything that's
1:45:08what you say well we know different so
1:45:12you [ __ ] either way your [ __ ] we
1:45:21already know
1:45:25and every by our all your friends and
1:45:27I'll let you down here because of what
1:45:30happened alarm all those friends that
1:45:33you talked you to add are not your
1:45:35friends anymore okay there'll be no more
1:45:41video games alright this is the end is
1:45:55there anything you wanna say that's what
1:45:59you say that's what you say I stick to
1:46:05your story cuz it's over
1:46:09we're tired talking to you okay we know
1:46:14you killed her
1:46:15we know you put her body in the trash
1:46:17can simple as that
1:46:23news media knows it
1:46:26glenda knows that your mother your
1:46:29sister knows it sister's husband also
1:46:33the one that used to beat your sister he
1:46:36knows it you know what he said
1:46:40so these are crazy [ __ ] what he
1:46:43said my call that's your own family
1:46:48calling you crazy
1:46:52your family said you crazy
1:47:04nobody wants to see nobody's coming to
1:47:08visit you so you can sit there with that
1:47:14dumb look on your face that's over
1:47:19you enjoyed yourself and it's all over
1:47:22now okay
1:47:28don't you want sorry I don't know that's
1:47:33what you say I'm telling you you did
1:47:37okay
1:47:39simple as that you're not in charge I am
1:47:43but I just took it away from you that's
1:47:47one thing you can't change brother you
1:47:50can't change that
1:48:03jostad
1:48:12no talk to Glenda she's crying she's
1:48:24supposed to be coming down they're not
1:48:30telling the whole story they told me
1:48:36what you used to tell him about your
1:48:37next-door neighbor - yeah what what you
1:48:47can't say nothing now you're speechless
1:48:52huh
1:48:55yeah she should be in a little bit I
1:48:59promised her I'd let her see and the
1:49:02kids almost she's bringing them all or
1:49:03not before you go on down all right
1:49:08okay I didn't do anything doesn't matter
1:49:12what you think you did
1:49:14doesn't matter it's what I can prove
1:49:17okay okay mr. smartypants hmm promised
1:49:29her I let her see you so I'm waiting on
1:49:31them to get out of here all right
1:49:40so I'm taking Kalinda statement about
1:49:44what you should tell her about your
1:49:46neighbor about what you telling about
1:49:51your guns and your knives and your
1:49:53sisters husbands coming cuz he said you
1:49:58crazy
1:50:02your sister is marriage - all right
1:50:05yes he used to beat her back in the day
1:50:08oh well you sit in here think about it
1:50:16for a little bit okay okay got plenty of
1:50:22time to think now don't you yeah yeah
1:50:31plenty of time I thought you thought you
1:50:33were smarter than everybody else but
1:50:34you're not you're not sad thing about it
1:50:43is you probably could have made
1:50:44something with your life you chose a
1:50:47different route because one you don't
1:50:50have a girlfriend and two you're never
1:50:52gonna get a girlfriend
1:51:09I'm all ears I don't know what you want
1:51:13me to say won't you say nothing you're
1:51:18[ __ ] either way do you understand that
1:51:23I didn't do anything
1:51:27that's what you stitch yourselves story
1:51:35that's your so story
1:51:45works both ways brother birth ways I
1:51:53think I'll be no more yelling ain't
1:51:56nobody gonna yell at you they go come
1:51:59here cry kiss you good-bye I will take
1:52:04their state mat and that's all over you
1:52:10do understand that right
1:52:12I didn't do anything that's what you say
1:52:18that's what you say cuz you haven't told
1:52:22us that time
1:52:29do you realize what I'm telling you
1:52:38okay you sit down think about it a
1:52:41little bit okay I'll come back and check
1:52:43off
1:52:57thought you were smarter than everybody
1:53:08so I always leave something I'm saying
1:53:26first I didn't really believe you had
1:53:27anything to do with
1:53:35I said man it could have been him Easter
1:53:37worked on DA's office with us he's a
1:53:39good guy he used to help us out
1:53:42friendly God every time it couldn't be
1:53:46him he could've done something like that
1:54:04we're through talk to you just wait for
1:54:09them to come visit you are you through
1:54:15with your little show you've been
1:54:16putting on all day are you through
1:54:28you're not gonna win too much evidence
1:54:34too much of that
1:54:45research talking to them and I'll just
1:54:47hang tight look Glenda benign here in
1:54:49middle how these will take a drive down
1:55:00[Music]

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