Stephen Colbert on the End of 'The Late Show,' What's Next & Why CBS Might Have "Saved" His Life — Transcript
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- 0:00The show is like a flaming toboggan ride
- 0:01every day and you know, the trick is to
- 0:03not hit any trees on your way down the
- 0:05mountain you know, before 12:30. There's
- 0:07so much to think about every day to do
- 0:09the show that I do actually don't have
- 0:10that much time to think about the show
- 0:11ending. So we're just going to run as
- 0:12fast as we can right through the tape or
- 0:15right into the brick wall. Whatever it
- 0:17feels like when we get there.
- 0:21The minute I found out I was lying down
- 0:23on my couch with I think a sock over my
- 0:26eyes cuz I was trying to rest when my
- 0:28manager came in and said do you have do
- 0:30you have 15 minutes to talk I'm like in
- 0:31person? We never talk in person. What is
- 0:34this about? And he said that this is
- 0:35this is the last season. So I took the
- 0:37sock off and I sat up and I said I'm
- 0:40sorry. I'm awake. Could you say that one
- 0:41more time? Next year will be our last
- 0:44season. The network will be ending the
- 0:46late show in May. It's getting much
- 0:48realer every moment getting a little
- 0:50more precious. I tried never to take for
- 0:52granted like being in the Ed Sullivan,
- 0:54having a Broadway theater, having that
- 0:56tremendous audience or have the ability
- 0:57to work with the funniest people I know
- 0:59every day and make jokes about the
- 1:02things that make me most anxious
- 1:04every day. But at the same time you
- 1:05can't really dwell on that ending
- 1:07because you don't have time for. Any any
- 1:09more you can think about
- 1:11walking and still walk or swallowing and
- 1:14not you know, choke on your own tongue.
- 1:16You just have to do the show.
- 1:17>> We'll meet again. [singing]
- 1:21Don't know where. Don't know when. It's
- 1:25funny thing with the Colbert Report I
- 1:26knew how I wanted it to end because
- 1:29well, I picked the date. Somehow about
- 1:31me picking the date and picking the year
- 1:33and everything. I'm like okay, it's
- 1:34going to be December 18th, 2014. I
- 1:37remember went to my assistant Amy
- 1:38[clears throat] Cole
- 1:40and I said Amy, what's the last day of
- 1:412014?
- 1:42In production. And she said it was
- 1:44December 18th. I said oh good to know.
- 1:45And I went down and sat at my desk and I
- 1:46thought for a second and I thought of
- 1:47the entire show. I'm like oh okay,
- 1:49that's what it'll be. Kind of all came
- 1:50in in one. And you know, we rewrote and
- 1:52noodled everything, but I had the idea.
- 1:54This time you know, wasn't my choice,
- 1:56wasn't my date. I think that's why it
- 1:58didn't come all at once. And one or two
- 2:00elements came to me like, what about
- 2:02this, what about that? And then we've
- 2:03had meetings over the last few months
- 2:05and recently it all just
- 2:07it all just gelled. It's not written,
- 2:10but I know what I want to have happen.
- 2:11And
- 2:12luckily it looks like it's going to. You
- 2:14can't do this forever. You have to think
- 2:16about it, well, when is the right time
- 2:18to end your
- 2:20tenure.
- 2:22I didn't think this soon. Who knows?
- 2:24Maybe
- 2:25CBS saved my life
- 2:27because it takes a lot of bone marrow to
- 2:29do the show every day. Now I'll be
- 2:31stepping down with enough time and
- 2:33enough energy to do other things that I
- 2:34want to do. The thing I found myself
- 2:36reading over and over again were the six
- 2:38chapters early on in the fellowship that
- 2:40y'all never developed into the first
- 2:42movie back in the day. Then I thought,
- 2:44oh wait,
- 2:45maybe that could be its own story that
- 2:47could fit into the larger story. This
- 2:49Lord of the Rings thing I was working on
- 2:51before
- 2:52the show was canceled. This has been
- 2:54years I've been thinking about it. I've
- 2:55been working on it with my son since
- 2:57COVID actually and then working on it
- 2:59with Peter Jackson, Philippa Boyens and
- 3:01and Fran
- 3:03Walsh for almost two years now. So that
- 3:05wasn't a post-show idea. That was an
- 3:07idea and I'm glad they liked it and now
- 3:11I'll have time to work on it, but that
- 3:12wasn't part of the what what will I do
- 3:15next feeling. That was I wonder if I
- 3:17could do any of this while I was still
- 3:18doing the show. We'll land this plane
- 3:20and we'll we'll check out the view from
- 3:21there. But I I don't think I could
- 3:23really have a big plan beyond this. I
- 3:27can finally speak unvarnished truth to
- 3:29power and say what I really think about
- 3:32Donald Trump starting
- 3:34right now. I don't have any fear of the
- 3:37administration doing anything to me.
- 3:41I mean how silly would it be?
- 3:44How silly would it be? I mean, listen.
- 3:48My present situation aside, like the
- 3:50ending of the show aside, which people
- 3:52can speculate all they want and I can't
- 3:54argue with their speculations, you know?
- 3:56But
- 3:58we're clowns.
- 4:00How much does it diminish
- 4:03the office of the presidency to even
- 4:05notice what we say?
- 4:07You know?
- 4:09That guy needs to know how to pick his
- 4:10battles.
- 4:11I mean, metaphorically and literally.
- 4:18I'm an actor.
- 4:19You know, I'm a actor and a writer and I
- 4:21became a writer because nobody would
- 4:22cast me in anything and I had to write
- 4:24for myself. And I always imagined that's
- 4:26what I'd be doing after the Colbert
- 4:27Report because that was
- 4:30an acting job. And when I got this, at
- 4:32first it was like, "No, I can't go do
- 4:34that job. That's That's I'm not a
- 4:35stand-up. I've never been myself." My
- 4:37mom had studied to be an actress. I got
- 4:40the bug of
- 4:42wanting to perform
- 4:44by hearing her talk about it. She had
- 4:46She had um
- 4:48been accepted to uh CIT, Carnegie
- 4:50Institute of Technology, now Carnegie
- 4:52Mellon, to that program. And then got
- 4:55very sick
- 4:56and had to delay going for a year.
- 4:58And
- 4:59right as she was getting better, my
- 5:00father asked her
- 5:02to marry him. And she said yes and had
- 5:0411 children
- 5:05rather than having an acting career. I
- 5:07was at Northwestern University and this
- 5:09guy named Chris Path
- 5:11uh
- 5:12who was I was friends with there said,
- 5:13"Hey, there's this thing in Chicago
- 5:16called the Harold Improv. They're doing
- 5:18it this club called Crosscurrents under
- 5:20the Belmont L. And it sounds really
- 5:23interesting. Do you want to go check it
- 5:24out?" So, I I went and the first night I
- 5:28saw it, I had a deep feeling and I don't
- 5:31know why, but I thought, "I have to do
- 5:33this."
- 5:34I was drawn to it immediately.
- 5:37And it wasn't just you know, that I was
- 5:38lazy and didn't have to learn lines, but
- 5:40that was attractive. But I I loved it.
- 5:43There was a guy I saw on stage that
- 5:44first night named Dave Pasquesi, who's
- 5:46an incredible performer. And I saw him
- 5:48and I went, "Oh, I kind of want to I
- 5:49want I don't know what he's doing up
- 5:51there,
- 5:52but
- 5:53he's got a secret, and I would like to
- 5:55know what that secret is."
- 5:56And so, that was a I maybe that might be
- 5:58the moment that turned me to into sort
- 6:00of the direction of of what the rest of
- 6:01my career was. Stephen. John. How are
- 6:04you? And you know what?
- 6:05In this new spirit of bipartisan
- 6:07compromise in the Senate, is is there
- 6:09still a lot of partisan bickering over
- 6:10witnesses and trial procedure? No, John.
- 6:12Now, it's over merchandising and product
- 6:15placement. I was at The Daily Show
- 6:16before John got there. Craig Kilborn
- 6:18leaves. We don't know who's going to
- 6:20take over for The Daily Show, and then
- 6:23it gets announced
- 6:25that it's Jon Stewart. And Evie and I
- 6:28are watching like, I don't know, maybe
- 6:30Entertainment Tonight or something like
- 6:31it, and it's announced that it's it's
- 6:32going to be Jon Stewart.
- 6:34And Evie says,
- 6:36"Jon Leibowitz?
- 6:38He's not funny."
- 6:40And what I didn't know was that she had
- 6:42known John when he first came to New
- 6:45York to be a comedian. And she was like,
- 6:46"John would be the guy at the party not
- 6:49talking to anyone, like nursing an
- 6:51Amstel Light in the corner." And she was
- 6:52like, "No, his roommate was the funny
- 6:54one."
- 6:55And John was just this quiet guy who
- 6:57like never over his voice. And then
- 6:59later, when I finally met John in
- 7:00person,
- 7:01first of all, John
- 7:04John at his press conference. There was
- 7:05a press conference at Comedy Central to
- 7:06announce that Jon Stewart was going to
- 7:08be the guy. And John and I hadn't met at
- 7:10this point. I said
- 7:12to my producer at the time at The Daily,
- 7:16I said, "Wait a second, isn't this sort
- 7:18of thing that we at The Daily Show would
- 7:19go cover? Aren't we self-important
- 7:21enough that we would think whoever new
- 7:22host is is going to be Why aren't one of
- 7:25us there in the press gaggle?" Cuz I
- 7:27knew there was going to be one at this
- 7:29press conference at Comedy Central.
- 7:31And they said, "You want to go? You can
- 7:32go." So, I went over there, got the cube
- 7:34that said Daily Show on it, and put on
- 7:36my little tie and everything like that,
- 7:37and got the lanyard and everything, and
- 7:38I stood up, and I said, uh "Stephen
- 7:40Colbert, Daily Show. Um,
- 7:42can you please uh address I said to Doug
- 7:45Herzog, the president of Comedy Central.
- 7:47This is this is for our president of
- 7:48Comedy Central, Doug Herzog.
- 7:50Mr. Herzog, uh
- 7:52could you address how John being named
- 7:55today the host affects my ability to get
- 7:58that job?
- 7:59And John looked to Doug Herzog and said,
- 8:02you told me he wasn't funny.
- 8:04And that's how we met.
- 8:07And then afterwards I went up and said,
- 8:08hey. And then
- 8:10uh it turns out we knew each other much
- 8:11before he he was like, wait, you know
- 8:12Evie McGee?
- 8:14I said, I know her very well, actually.
- 8:16And and then I wasn't there for almost
- 8:18the first year of John at The Daily
- 8:21because uh you know, writing, producing,
- 8:23and starring in Strangers with Candy,
- 8:25which we did not know how to do. And so
- 8:27we would work 24 hours a day. Whenever I
- 8:28was back, we'd have a good time
- 8:29together. They'd say, can't you come
- 8:30back? I'm like, hey, minute shows are
- 8:33when the doors open that big, I come
- 8:34flying back. Cuz here's the thing. The
- 8:36Daily Show with Craig Kilborn was good,
- 8:39you know, it made really made a name for
- 8:40itself. And then great writers and
- 8:41producers and a great game and
- 8:43everything. But when John came in, it
- 8:44turned into a totally different beast.
- 8:46He turned it into something where he
- 8:49would invited us to mean what we were
- 8:50saying, or rather to do satire, which is
- 8:53not quite the same thing as
- 8:55jokes about current events. He invited
- 8:57us to do satire.
- 8:58And that was really attractive to me.
- 9:02And so I flew back to work with him. And
- 9:06we immediately hit it off. The first
- 9:07thing I came back for was the Republican
- 9:09convention
- 9:10in Philadelphia in 2000. And then I
- 9:13never left again. I came back for that.
- 9:14And then I was there solidly for the
- 9:16next 5 years. This is the very first
- 9:18time I'm sitting behind my new desk.
- 9:20Isn't this beautiful, Jimmy? Can we get
- 9:21a shot of this? This was a happy
- 9:23accident. I mean, this gig was never the
- 9:24goal. I mean, I love
- 9:27the I mean, I grew up on Johnny Carson
- 9:29and I was first generation David
- 9:31Letterman. Like his first year in late
- 9:33night was my first year in college. And
- 9:36so we perfectly, you know, overlapped. I
- 9:38was just a core audience for him. Just
- 9:40for the record, I'm not replacing David
- 9:42Letterman. His creative legacy is a high
- 9:45pencil mark on a door frame that we all
- 9:47have to measure ourselves against.
- 9:49>> They basically offered it to me, and
- 9:50then 4 months later Dave stepped down.
- 9:52And they said, "Hey, we meant that. You
- 9:54want to do it?" And I went, "Yeah, I
- 9:55do." But in between,
- 9:57I I basically did 4 months of therapy
- 9:58about, "Hey, why wouldn't I want to do
- 10:00this?" My sister Mary was sort of the
- 10:02deciding factor for me. I would have
- 10:04talked to my mom about this, but she had
- 10:06passed
- 10:07at this point. And so, uh nobody knew
- 10:09that I had been offered this job by my
- 10:11family. And I asked my sister Mary. I
- 10:13said, "Mary, could you come up?" She
- 10:14lives in DC. I said, "Could you come up
- 10:16to New York? I just want to talk to you
- 10:17about something." She said, "Sure." So,
- 10:18she she gets on the train, she comes up
- 10:20the next day. She goes, "What's going
- 10:21on, kiddo?" Well,
- 10:24you know, David is stepping down. And
- 10:25she just burst into a huge smile.
- 10:27And I said, "Okay.
- 10:29Okay,
- 10:31Mary,
- 10:32if this show works out, CBS should send
- 10:34you a bouquet of flowers, cuz I'm going
- 10:36to take the job because you just smiled.
- 10:37Her happiness for me getting the gig is
- 10:39the thing that really sealed it for me."
- 10:41You wrote me a letter after my mom died,
- 10:43and in it you said, "I I hope you find
- 10:45peace in your grief." When Anderson came
- 10:47in to talk to me for his show, I know
- 10:50that his mother had passed recently. And
- 10:53I had written to him about that. And I
- 10:55didn't know he was going to talk about
- 10:56it, but he brought it up and we talked
- 10:58about it. And
- 11:01had a good conversation, I thought. Your
- 11:03dad was killed in a plane crash when you
- 11:05were 10 years old, along with your two
- 11:06brothers, Peter and Paul. I was out of
- 11:08the country when it actually went up.
- 11:10And my daughter
- 11:12joined us. We were family vacationing in
- 11:14Iceland. She goes, "Dad, did you see
- 11:15what's going on online?"
- 11:17It was like It was like 10 million
- 11:19people had seen it in the first 24 hours
- 11:20or something. I was very surprised. I
- 11:22had no idea that I mean, it makes sense,
- 11:24cuz everybody experiences grief, if
- 11:27you're lucky.
- 11:28You know? If you love someone enough to
- 11:30feel the great loss
- 11:32of that. But, I was very surprised
- 11:35because it's not something that I had
- 11:37talked about
- 11:40publicly.
- 11:42And it felt innate to my view of the
- 11:46world,
- 11:47but I didn't realize that experience
- 11:49that I had had
- 11:51would be so meaningful to other people
- 11:53um because so many other people
- 11:55experience it. It seems obvious and a
- 11:56very simple thing to realize, but it did
- 11:58take me by surprise. It's like a pearl?
- 12:00>> Because the 30th anniversary's pearl.
- 12:02>> For the people out there who do who
- 12:03don't who do not know, this is actually
- 12:05tonight is actually our 30th
- 12:07anniversary. One of the joy
- 12:10for the audience is that she takes the
- 12:11piss out of me
- 12:12because she sure can. Do you ever fight?
- 12:15Oh.
- 12:17I know. Did you not read my email that I
- 12:19sent you? We've got to make some
- 12:21decisions about whatever it is. No, we
- 12:22don't really fight.
- 12:24We don't really have donnybrooks. She's
- 12:25great company.
- 12:27I try to be
- 12:28equally good company. I don't think I am
- 12:30as good company she is. We laugh a lot.
- 12:34And she's the best laugh. She's the
- 12:35laugh I want to get more than anybody
- 12:36else.
- 12:37That's the best.
- 12:40We grew up in the same town.
- 12:42Like, wow, half and a key, I must be
- 12:43doing okay. I can't believe half and a
- 12:46key is going out with me. We went on our
- 12:48first date was December 26th, 1990, and
- 12:52then we got engaged
- 12:53uh December 22nd, 1992.
- 12:57I was going to wait till December 26th,
- 12:59but my friends got weary. He said, "No,
- 13:02man, you got to ask her before Christmas
- 13:04cuz she's going to want to show that
- 13:05ring on Christmas morning to everybody
- 13:07at church." And I said, "You're
- 13:09absolutely right." So, December 22nd. I
- 13:12remember when my daughter Madeleine was
- 13:14born, she was born in September in
- 13:17Chicago, and so by the time we were
- 13:20taking her out in the world, it was
- 13:22getting chilly.
- 13:24We had her in a little buggy
- 13:26and just tucked in and bundled with just
- 13:28only her little face showing that little
- 13:30thing and walking her along and I
- 13:32remember walking her outside and going,
- 13:34"Is that's a tree?
- 13:36That's a tree. That's that blue thing is
- 13:38that that's the sky. Those are clouds."
- 13:40And we're going, "I can't wait till you
- 13:42can talk back." And, you know, people
- 13:45say like, "Oh, there's certain ages that
- 13:47are perfect, you know, like six is
- 13:49perfect, you know, or like right before
- 13:52they become a teenager and they still
- 13:53think you're pretty great, you know,
- 13:55like 11 or something like that or 12 or
- 13:57something like that." But, having an
- 13:59adult child,
- 14:01you know, if you've got a good
- 14:02relationship with them,
- 14:03is the best to lose an argument
- 14:07with an adult child over something you
- 14:09thought you knew about.
- 14:11I mean, if you can take it, it's pretty
- 14:13great. I think my son turned in his last
- 14:16assignment today.
- 14:17His thesis, his senior thesis, I think
- 14:19it got turned in today. But, the last
- 14:21week of the show is Monday he graduates,
- 14:23Thursday's my last show, and Saturday my
- 14:25brother gets married. All my brothers
- 14:27and sisters and their husbands and wives
- 14:28and everything are coming to the last
- 14:29show and then we're all getting on the
- 14:30train the next day and going down to DC
- 14:33to go to Tommy's wedding. The next day
- 14:35focus is not on me. Focus is on my
- 14:36brother. So much better. And we'll get
- 14:38drunk and we'll sing. We all We all
- 14:41think we have good voices. That's the
- 14:43great danger of our family, especially
- 14:45the men. They really really think that
- 14:47we have good voices. We'll get drunk and
- 14:48we'll sing on the dance floor. It'll be
- 14:49great. I want to thank everybody who
- 14:50reached out to me over the weekend
- 14:53including one text from an unknown
- 14:54number offering a high-paying IT
- 14:56work-from-home job for only two to three
- 14:58hours a day. Yes, I am very interested.
- 15:02I
- 15:03love going out every night and talking
- 15:04about what happened today because again,
- 15:06it's a selfish endeavor. I want the
- 15:08audience
- 15:09to feel better. I'm the host. It's like
- 15:11I'm hosting a party.
- 15:12That's That's the idea, but I'm also
- 15:14getting a lot out of it. We're all
- 15:15getting a lot out of it. I'll miss that
- 15:17as much as I'll miss the audience, that
- 15:18camaraderie
- 15:20of us feeling better about our day,
- 15:22being able to talk about it. So, that's
- 15:23it.
- 15:24I'm gone. Just like
- 15:27I hope they laughed. I hope they felt
- 15:29better at the end of the day. I mean,
- 15:30that's it. We're there. We're the last
- 15:32thing you see.
- 15:33You know, a lot of things happen in a
- 15:34day,
- 15:35but we bat last.
- 15:37And so, we get the last
- 15:40take
- 15:41that people hear before they go to bed.
- 15:43And I hope it made their day better.
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