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  1. 0:01[music]
  2. 0:13>> The sprawling Stasi archives bring to
  3. 0:16light a story that began with the Cold
  4. 0:18War.
  5. 0:251949,
  6. 0:26at the end of the Second World War, two
  7. 0:29German states were born.
  8. 0:31In the West, [music] the Americans, the
  9. 0:33English, and the French validated the
  10. 0:36creation of the Federal Republic of
  11. 0:38Germany, or FRG, endowed with a
  12. 0:41parliamentary democracy. In the East, in
  13. 0:44the Soviet occupation zone, Stalin set
  14. 0:47up the GDR, the German Democratic
  15. 0:49Republic,
  16. 0:50>> [music]
  17. 0:50>> and imposed on it the dictatorship of
  18. 0:52the proletariat.
  19. 1:10Led by the SED, the unified Communist
  20. 1:12Party, the GDR was modeled on its Soviet
  21. 1:15[music] big brother.
  22. 1:18Like the USSR, the East German regime
  23. 1:21put into place a planned economy,
  24. 1:23collectivized land, and nationalized
  25. 1:25businesses.
  26. 1:31It also recruited its citizens from the
  27. 1:33age of six into the party's organization
  28. 1:37through the Pioneers and the FDJ, or
  29. 1:39Freie Deutsche Jugend, the socialist
  30. 1:42youth.
  31. 2:07>> Military training for children was
  32. 2:09provided in scout camps. And when
  33. 2:11children were divided into the good guys
  34. 2:13and the bad guys to do exercises, the
  35. 2:16bad guys were always West Berliners. To
  36. 2:18catch one, you had to shout, "Stop, West
  37. 2:21Berliner, or I'll shoot."
  38. 2:24>> Carla Leesch was 7 years old when the
  39. 2:26GDR was created. [music] Between 1949
  40. 2:29and 1961, Germans were allowed to travel
  41. 2:32between East and West and went to West
  42. 2:35Berlin, landlocked in the middle of the
  43. 2:37GDR. This openness quickly triggered a
  44. 2:40rivalry between the two systems.
  45. 2:47>> When we went to West Berlin, life was in
  46. 2:50color.
  47. 2:51West Berlin was the showcase of the
  48. 2:53Western world. There were freedoms and
  49. 2:56consumer goods that us Easterners
  50. 2:59could only dream about.
  51. 3:01It was very attractive and at the same
  52. 3:03time, it showed us that something was
  53. 3:05wrong in the GDR.
  54. 3:23>> The GDR had little to counter the
  55. 3:25seductive offer of the West.
  56. 3:28The daily life of its citizens, made up
  57. 3:30of ration cards, [music] parades, and
  58. 3:32propaganda, was nowhere near enough to
  59. 3:35ensure the support of the majority of
  60. 3:37them.
  61. 3:38The German communists [music]
  62. 3:40knew that in order to stay in power,
  63. 3:42they needed to make use of control and
  64. 3:44repression.
  65. 3:50Founded in 1950, the Stasi, short for
  66. 3:53Staatssicherheit, settled in
  67. 3:55Lichtenberg, neighborhood of Berlin,
  68. 3:58where it would gradually erect a number
  69. 4:00of huge buildings.
  70. 4:03It would become the sword and shield of
  71. 4:05the party, modeled after the Soviet
  72. 4:08Cheka, the predecessor of the KGB.
  73. 4:12>> A Chekist had to have a warm heart, a
  74. 4:14cool head, and clean hands.
  75. 4:18>> [music]
  76. 4:19>> Günther Grassler joined the Stasi at the
  77. 4:22age of 24.
  78. 4:24>> The
  79. 4:25party was always good.
  80. 4:28It ran the entire country.
  81. 4:32The socialism we were developing had to
  82. 4:34be protected by the shield.
  83. 4:37And the sword, of course, was there to
  84. 4:39punish some people, to imprison them
  85. 4:42when it was necessary.
  86. 4:44That is what the sword and shield of the
  87. 4:46party was.
  88. 4:54>> In 1957, [music]
  89. 4:56with the appointment of Erich Mielke,
  90. 4:58the Stasi experienced its [music] real
  91. 5:00boom.
  92. 5:02A communist activist from an early age,
  93. 5:05Mielke participated in the murder of two
  94. 5:07policemen in 1931. [music]
  95. 5:10To escape justice, he fled Berlin to
  96. 5:13Moscow, where he was trained in party
  97. 5:15schools in the pure Stalinist tradition.
  98. 5:20>> Mielke interpreted everything through a
  99. 5:22very Manichaean Marxist-Leninist grid.
  100. 5:25Good, evil, friend, enemy, us and them.
  101. 5:30His political ethics were very black and
  102. 5:33white.
  103. 5:49Mielke knew all his subordinates down
  104. 5:51the hierarchy.
  105. 5:59He was very dangerous man.
  106. 6:02>> Erich Mielke was a psychopath.
  107. 6:05Erich Mielke was a small pugilistic
  108. 6:09man obsessed with guns, um paranoid.
  109. 6:18>> Cynical and dogmatic, Erich Mielke was
  110. 6:21the ideal man to make the Stasi a tool
  111. 6:24of repression and control.
  112. 6:26His obsession, the fight against what he
  113. 6:29called "politisch-ideologische
  114. 6:31Diversion", the political-ideological
  115. 6:34diversion or PID in the jargon of the
  116. 6:36Stasi.
  117. 6:42>> A whole generation of socialists were
  118. 6:44taught to become modest and
  119. 6:46enthusiastic.
  120. 6:51And all of a sudden
  121. 6:52you had the uncle from the west who came
  122. 6:54in with his big Mercedes,
  123. 6:56the trunk full of oranges and bananas.
  124. 7:02He also showed photos of his last
  125. 7:04vacation in Italy.
  126. 7:09That was ideological diversion.
  127. 7:12It aroused more desire for middle-class
  128. 7:15consumerism
  129. 7:16than to immerse oneself in the study of
  130. 7:18Marx and Engels.
  131. 7:23>> Rock and roll, [music] blue jeans, long
  132. 7:25hair.
  133. 7:27In Mielke's eyes, any deviation [music]
  134. 7:29from the socialist norm was suspect,
  135. 7:31including possession of a Bible.
  136. 7:34And it was better to be safe than sorry.
  137. 7:38By virtue of this principle, he set up
  138. 7:40one of the most efficient secret
  139. 7:41services in the world from his office on
  140. 7:44the second [music] floor of the
  141. 7:45headquarters.
  142. 7:47With its 91,000 employees, or one
  143. 7:49[music] agent for every 180 citizens,
  144. 7:52the Stasi was far ahead of the
  145. 7:54formidable KGB.
  146. 7:5915 regional branches were scattered
  147. 8:01throughout Germany. Each was equipped
  148. 8:03with its own prison.
  149. 8:06>> [music]
  150. 8:07>> The Stasi even had its own army,
  151. 8:10the Felix Dzerzhinsky Regiment, 11,000
  152. 8:13strong.
  153. 8:15Its agents, nicknamed the Knights of the
  154. 8:17Revolution, were recruited from families
  155. 8:20that were close to the regime and
  156. 8:21politically compatible.
  157. 8:25>> The GDR was my homeland, and I was
  158. 8:28entitled to be proud that I was asked to
  159. 8:30participate in its construction.
  160. 8:34>> [music]
  161. 8:42>> We had family in the West, an aunt and
  162. 8:44my grandmother.
  163. 8:46I knew how things were going there, and
  164. 8:48my impressions weren't necessarily
  165. 8:49positive.
  166. 8:51To me,
  167. 8:52West Germany was a landmark for former
  168. 8:55Nazis.
  169. 8:56That didn't represent anything good to
  170. 8:58me.
  171. 9:02In my opinion at the time, West Germans
  172. 9:04lived in a capitalist system where they
  173. 9:07were exploited and oppressed.
  174. 9:09We, [music] young socialist, were going
  175. 9:12to help them have a better system and a
  176. 9:15better life one day.
  177. 9:20They approached me and said,
  178. 9:23"Here, you're going to study,
  179. 9:26and then we'll hire you as a second
  180. 9:28lieutenant."
  181. 9:32It was a great opportunity.
  182. 9:36I started with a salary of 1,000 marks.
  183. 9:40As an engineer in the civil sector,
  184. 9:43I would have earned only 600 marks.
  185. 9:48It was also about the money.
  186. 9:51Let's not kid ourselves.
  187. 9:55>> Well-paid and enjoying many privileges
  188. 9:58in a country subject to all kinds of
  189. 10:00deprivations, Stasi officers [music]
  190. 10:02were part of the elite.
  191. 10:06The regime reserved apartments and
  192. 10:07special shops for the high-ranking
  193. 10:09officers.
  194. 10:11It was a community away from that of the
  195. 10:13common man.
  196. 10:16>> Due to circumstances, we were operating
  197. 10:19in an environment where at least one or
  198. 10:21two of our friends were also employees
  199. 10:24of the Ministry for State Security.
  200. 10:28For the uninitiated, we used the
  201. 10:30catchphrase, "I work at the Ministry of
  202. 10:33the Interior."
  203. 10:35Everyone knew what that meant.
  204. 10:41>> Everything was done in secret.
  205. 10:44In Potsdam near Berlin, the Stasi even
  206. 10:47had its own university.
  207. 10:49Its existence was revealed when the
  208. 10:51archives were opened.
  209. 10:55>> At the university, we were taught that
  210. 10:56in West Germany, there was a secret
  211. 10:59specialized center that conspired to
  212. 11:01prepare attacks against the GDR.
  213. 11:33Yeah, that's what I said. course, I
  214. 11:35believed it. Why wouldn't I have
  215. 11:37believed it?
  216. 11:40>> Paranoid, the Stasi also [music] sent
  217. 11:43its recruits beyond the borders, and
  218. 11:45naturally to its rival, the FRG, where
  219. 11:48its agents [music] carried out sabotage
  220. 11:50and disinformation operations.
  221. 11:53The information [music] collected was
  222. 11:54shared with the KGB.
  223. 11:57With the help of educational films like
  224. 11:59this one, its agents were trained in
  225. 12:01apartment searches, which were conducted
  226. 12:04by the book.
  227. 12:09>> [music]
  228. 12:44>> We learned the ropes, how to wiretap
  229. 12:47people,
  230. 12:47>> [clears throat]
  231. 12:48>> how to interrogate them,
  232. 12:50and we learned how to treat informants.
  233. 12:56>> To keep its citizens under control, the
  234. 12:59Stasi set up a vast network of amateur
  235. 13:01spies recruited from the population.
  236. 13:06They were called inoffizielle
  237. 13:08Mitarbeiter, or IM, unofficial
  238. 13:11collaborators.
  239. 13:13The recruitment process took 9 months on
  240. 13:15average.
  241. 13:18>> First of all, it was necessary to see
  242. 13:20how the discussions went, how far the
  243. 13:22person was willing to go.
  244. 13:24It was only afterwards that we decided
  245. 13:26whether to make them an unofficial
  246. 13:27collaborator or not.
  247. 13:29>> [music]
  248. 13:33>> Many people, especially from the
  249. 13:34economic sector, volunteered to become
  250. 13:37IM.
  251. 13:39One day, I recruited a company manager
  252. 13:42who had accepted because he could no
  253. 13:43longer bear the dysfunction at his
  254. 13:45company.
  255. 13:48>> IM were volunteers, friends, co-workers,
  256. 13:52and even family members of the suspect.
  257. 13:55All committed to the Stasi and writing
  258. 13:57operated under code names and made
  259. 14:00regular reports to their liaison
  260. 14:01officers.
  261. 14:03>> The Stasi was in the churches, the Stasi
  262. 14:05was in the kindergartens, the Stasi was
  263. 14:06in the schools, the Stasi was in the
  264. 14:08apartment block, the Stasi was in the
  265. 14:10artist collective, the Stasi was in the
  266. 14:12newspapers, the Stasi was everywhere.
  267. 14:15There was no separation, in fact, not
  268. 14:17only between the state or the party and
  269. 14:20the Stasi, but life and the Stasi.
  270. 14:27>> In the archives, IM files were
  271. 14:29recognizable by their orange cover.
  272. 14:34The reconstruction of the archives
  273. 14:35revealed the existence of recruits with
  274. 14:38disturbing profiles. Behind the code
  275. 14:40names Sternberg and Erwin Mohr were
  276. 14:43actually former SS.
  277. 14:47Among them, Josef Städnick, [music] a
  278. 14:49former guard at the Auschwitz
  279. 14:51concentration camp.
  280. 14:54A discovery that undermined the myth of
  281. 14:56an anti-fascist East Germany as opposed
  282. 15:00to the FRG accused of being more lenient
  283. 15:02with former Nazis.
  284. 15:05Ignoring its own principles, the Stasi
  285. 15:08expanded its grip on its [music]
  286. 15:09population.
  287. 15:11>> The presence of the Stasi was felt in
  288. 15:14everyday life.
  289. 15:15People were arrested regularly.
  290. 15:18The Stasi relied on intimidation.
  291. 15:21And it was intentional on the part of
  292. 15:23the regime to make it known to the
  293. 15:25people.
  294. 15:26They wanted to create an atmosphere of
  295. 15:29fear.
  296. 15:32>> Despite its best efforts, the regime was
  297. 15:35unable to stop its population from
  298. 15:37escaping.
  299. 15:39By 1961,
  300. 15:403 million citizens of the GDR had
  301. 15:43already left for the West.
  302. 15:45As a result, the party made a radical
  303. 15:47decision.
  304. 15:49>> 13th of August, 1961. A wall of East
  305. 15:52German police stands at the Brandenburg
  306. 15:54Gate.
  307. 15:56All communication between the Eastern
  308. 15:57sector and those of the West has been
  309. 16:00cut as though by a knife.
  310. 16:03>> On August 13th, the GDR closed the
  311. 16:05borders with its neighbor and built a
  312. 16:07wall through the city of Berlin
  313. 16:09>> [music]
  314. 16:09>> that it called antifaschistischer
  315. 16:11Schutzwall, or anti-fascist protection
  316. 16:14rampart.
  317. 16:17>> I thought it was a good decision and I
  318. 16:19wasn't the only one who thought so.
  319. 16:22What bothered me was the attitude of the
  320. 16:24people towards their own country.
  321. 16:27Many doctors were leaving the GDR and
  322. 16:29had to be prevented from doing so.
  323. 16:33>> To secure the borders, the [music] Stasi
  324. 16:35became reinforcements for the police and
  325. 16:37the army. Preventing executives and
  326. 16:40ordinary citizens from fleeing the GDR
  327. 16:43would remain as priority until the end.
  328. 16:45Moving to the West had become a crime.
  329. 16:48>> This news completely destroyed me.
  330. 16:51I thought I couldn't possibly continue
  331. 16:53to live in this concentration camp.
  332. 16:55Staying in the GDR was unthinkable to
  333. 16:58me.
  334. 16:59I've always said that I was born a human
  335. 17:00being and not a slave.
  336. 17:09>> Manfred was 18 years old when he decided
  337. 17:12to flee to the West.
  338. 17:15His file, found in the archives details
  339. 17:18his downward spiral in in over 2,000
  340. 17:21pages.
  341. 17:22The denunciation by an unofficial
  342. 17:25collaborator.
  343. 17:28His attempt to flee by car.
  344. 17:30And finally, his arrest on the highway.
  345. 17:36While in custody in a Stasi prison,
  346. 17:39Manfred discovered the methods of the
  347. 17:41secret services for the first time.
  348. 17:46>> They shine two lamps in your face and
  349. 17:48yelled at you.
  350. 17:49Springer,
  351. 17:50you're state enemy number one.
  352. 18:00Another Stasi officer told me,
  353. 18:02"Springer,
  354. 18:03we thought you were just an ordinary
  355. 18:05citizen,
  356. 18:06but now we know who you really are.
  357. 18:08A criminal.
  358. 18:14You know what we should do to guys like
  359. 18:16you?
  360. 18:17We should put them in a hole and [ __ ] on
  361. 18:19them up to their necks."
  362. 18:25>> Manfred spent two months in Stasi jails
  363. 18:27before appearing in court.
  364. 18:33Accused of attempted flight and
  365. 18:35terrorism, he was sentenced to four
  366. 18:37years in prison after a public trial
  367. 18:40intended to deter citizens [music] from
  368. 18:42fleeing.
  369. 18:51>> I thought it was entirely normal to
  370. 18:53punish someone who violated the law.
  371. 18:58And I thought that regardless of what
  372. 19:00the crime was,
  373. 19:03when it's forbidden to flee the German
  374. 19:05Democratic Republic,
  375. 19:07the sanction is justified.
  376. 19:14>> I never needed the freedom to travel.
  377. 19:20Neither yesterday nor today.
  378. 19:25>> At the age of 18, Manfred was subjected
  379. 19:28to forced labor and several prisons of
  380. 19:30the regime in inhumane conditions.
  381. 19:39>> In prison, I suffered from a lack of
  382. 19:41oxygen which caused serious skin
  383. 19:44problems.
  384. 19:45I was covered in eczema.
  385. 19:52And when I asked to see a doctor,
  386. 19:55I was told I was forbidden to seek
  387. 19:57treatment.
  388. 19:59They said I was an enemy of the people,
  389. 20:02that I was against the state,
  390. 20:04and in favor of the criminal policy of
  391. 20:06the West.
  392. 20:13They even put me in a special cell where
  393. 20:15prisoners were starved.
  394. 20:18For lunch, all we were given was a soup
  395. 20:21made with water and only 36 grains of
  396. 20:23barley.
  397. 20:25Not a gram of fat,
  398. 20:27no meat, no potatoes, nothing.
  399. 20:31That's how these communist pigs wanted
  400. 20:33to finish us off.
  401. 20:43I I can't get over all of this.
  402. 20:48I really can't get over all of this.
  403. 20:54>> In the '50s and '60s, violence, [music]
  404. 20:56kidnapping, and political murders were
  405. 20:58committed to keep 16 million citizens on
  406. 21:01a leash.
  407. 21:03But there was worse. Virtual
  408. 21:05reconstruction had uncovered the details
  409. 21:08of a top secret contingency plan,
  410. 21:11Directive 167.
  411. 21:13It was a plan to imprison and isolate
  412. 21:16some 80,000 people considered dangerous
  413. 21:19by the regime in just 24 hours.
  414. 21:28>> Everything was ready. The internment
  415. 21:30camps were defined in advance. The
  416. 21:32barbed wire was laid. The beds were
  417. 21:34prepared. They also knew who was going
  418. 21:36to monitor these camps. And above all,
  419. 21:39they had predetermined which people they
  420. 21:40wanted to lock up.
  421. 21:42Each of them had a file.
  422. 21:44Even the names of the arresting officers
  423. 21:46had been established.
  424. 21:49>> In these personal files, the smallest
  425. 21:51detail was recorded up to the presence
  426. 21:54of a doorbell at the front door.
  427. 21:56Updated every year, Directive 167 was
  428. 21:59the ultimate weapon of the Stasi.
  429. 22:02In the event of a crisis, it had to
  430. 22:04protect the party from its own people.
  431. 22:27>> [applause]
  432. 22:28>> Rewarded for his services, the head of
  433. 22:30the Stasi rose through the ranks and
  434. 22:32became a member of the Politburo, the
  435. 22:35country's highest political authority.
  436. 22:39>> [music]
  437. 22:40>> In 1971, the new secretary of the
  438. 22:43Communist Party was Erich Honecker.
  439. 22:46The atmosphere between East and West was
  440. 22:48relaxing as the two enemy blocks grew
  441. 22:51closer.
  442. 23:00Right from
  443. 23:02Within the Stasi, panic set in.
  444. 23:09>> The detente was kind of a soft
  445. 23:11counter-revolution.
  446. 23:13Meaning a particularly treacherous
  447. 23:15method of weakening socialism.
  448. 23:19It took the intervention of the Soviet
  449. 23:21leaders and the KGB for Milke to accept
  450. 23:25the detente policy.
  451. 23:29>> It was for economic reasons that the GDR
  452. 23:32decided to play along the game of
  453. 23:34detente.
  454. 23:35In need of foreign currency, Erich
  455. 23:37Honecker asked Helmut Schmidt, his West
  456. 23:40German counterpart, for loans.
  457. 23:42In return, the regime had to facilitate
  458. 23:45more exchanges between the two Germanys
  459. 23:48and allow West German journalists access
  460. 23:50to the GDR. To hide its obvious human
  461. 23:53rights violations, the Stasi had to
  462. 23:55change methods.
  463. 24:01It is in this context [music] that
  464. 24:03Tatjana Sternberg, a young employee at a
  465. 24:06Berlin hotel, fell in love with Antonio,
  466. 24:09an Italian living in West Berlin.
  467. 24:12The couple decided to get married,
  468. 24:13[music]
  469. 24:14but Antonio did not want to live in the
  470. 24:16East.
  471. 24:17Therefore, Tatjana made an official
  472. 24:19request to leave the GDR, but she was
  473. 24:22turned down.
  474. 24:26>> It frustrated us so much that I ended up
  475. 24:29saying something like
  476. 24:31Well,
  477. 24:32well, we'll just have to find another
  478. 24:33way.
  479. 24:35That was enough to put the Stasi on
  480. 24:37notice.
  481. 24:39Later, I discovered in my file that it
  482. 24:42was from that moment on that they began
  483. 24:44to spy on us
  484. 24:46day and night.
  485. 24:55The case of the hotel employees
  486. 24:56suspected of attempting to flee became
  487. 24:59what the Stasi called Operativa Vorgang,
  488. 25:02a monitoring operation.
  489. 25:07Retrieved from the archives, her file
  490. 25:10reveals the steps of a relentless
  491. 25:12surveillance.
  492. 25:16>> Here are some observation photos taken
  493. 25:18in front of my house.
  494. 25:20We were transporting furniture.
  495. 25:26We took pictures of all the people who
  496. 25:27helped us.
  497. 25:30And even the objects we carried.
  498. 25:40In a report about me, I read the
  499. 25:41following.
  500. 25:45The person tailed just paid a 32 mark
  501. 25:48and 33 pfennig electricity bill.
  502. 25:51That means that people from the Stasi or
  503. 25:53their informants were right behind me in
  504. 25:55line when I paid my bill.
  505. 26:00Later, there were times when the agents
  506. 26:02would position themselves in such a way
  507. 26:04that I could see them in order to scare
  508. 26:06me, but also to show that they were
  509. 26:08keeping an eye on me.
  510. 26:17Photos were taken using [music]
  511. 26:18concealed devices.
  512. 26:27Mail was opened using machines created
  513. 26:29for that specific purpose.
  514. 26:32>> [music]
  515. 26:32>> Within the ministry, an entire
  516. 26:34department was responsible for
  517. 26:35developing the technical means to fight
  518. 26:38the enemies [music]
  519. 26:38of the people.
  520. 26:42>> Nobody talks about the operative
  521. 26:43technology sector.
  522. 26:46It wasn't well known,
  523. 26:48but it was very important.
  524. 26:52The The
  525. 26:53developed taping technologies,
  526. 26:55infrared detectors that could be
  527. 26:57installed in a Trabant, a type of small
  528. 27:01car in Trabant.
  529. 27:03Given the limited means of the GDR,
  530. 27:06you can say that they were really
  531. 27:08divine.
  532. 27:10Truly amazing.
  533. 27:15>> In addition to the technology, there was
  534. 27:18also the IM network. In her file,
  535. 27:20Tatiana discovered she had been by 12
  536. 27:23people in her friends and family circle,
  537. 27:25and in particular by a colleague at her
  538. 27:27hotel.
  539. 27:29>> In my file, I found out he had made a
  540. 27:32map of my apartment. He would tell the
  541. 27:34Stasi who I was seeing,
  542. 27:36when and where, and who was taking me
  543. 27:38home. Even things from my everyday life
  544. 27:40that were quite trivial.
  545. 27:42>> The Stasi was spying on everyone.
  546. 27:45It was collecting everyone's
  547. 27:48biographies. It was It was stealing your
  548. 27:51life story,
  549. 27:52>> [music]
  550. 27:52>> and then it was changing your life
  551. 27:53story.
  552. 27:55So, it was extremely sinister.
  553. 28:00>> I was lectured by the management, as if
  554. 28:02I were on trial.
  555. 28:05All of this psychological pressure made
  556. 28:07me suffer a lot. I was pregnant at the
  557. 28:09time, and I lost my baby.
  558. 28:16>> The map drawn up by her colleague was
  559. 28:18used by the Stasi [music] in Tatiana's
  560. 28:20arrest.
  561. 28:25Sentenced to 3 [music] years in prison
  562. 28:27for planning to flee, she was released
  563. 28:29in 1976,
  564. 28:31and managed to move to the West.
  565. 28:33There, she was reunited with Antonio,
  566. 28:36and married him in Naples.
  567. 28:38But, their marriage did not last. The
  568. 28:41Stasi had shattered their lives.
  569. 28:48>> That's when I realized that this regime
  570. 28:50and its primary tool, the Stasi, hated
  571. 28:52its own citizens
  572. 28:55simply for wanting to live elsewhere,
  573. 28:58for wanting to express themselves
  574. 28:59freely,
  575. 29:00and demanding freedom.
  576. 29:06>> arbitrariness
  577. 29:08violations of human rights
  578. 29:11I would say that these are all relative
  579. 29:13concepts that must be handled with
  580. 29:15caution.
  581. 29:18>> What are human rights?
  582. 29:21>> To me, it's the right to have food,
  583. 29:24to have a roof over your head,
  584. 29:27to have social security.
  585. 29:35Freedom of opinion and freedom to travel
  586. 29:38are important, and you can say that they
  587. 29:40were mismanaged in the GDR.
  588. 29:44But the Ministry for State Security
  589. 29:46didn't do what it did because it liked
  590. 29:49doing it.
  591. 29:51We did them because the party asked us
  592. 29:53to.
  593. 30:12>> In the mid-1970s,
  594. 30:14encouraged by promises of political
  595. 30:16detente,
  596. 30:17the first movements of dissent emerged
  597. 30:19in the GDR.
  598. 30:24Notably, in the university city of Jena,
  599. 30:27where Siegfried Reiprich [music] studied
  600. 30:28history.
  601. 30:32Despite his long hair and passion for
  602. 30:34rock music, he was a pure product of the
  603. 30:36regime. A pioneer at the age of six,
  604. 30:39Siegfried [music] then became leader of
  605. 30:40the socialist student section named
  606. 30:42Agitprop for agitation and propaganda.
  607. 30:48But in the GDR, it only took one misstep
  608. 30:51to arouse suspicion.
  609. 30:54>> I was part of a literature and poetry
  610. 30:56circle within the party.
  611. 30:58We used to organize local seminars.
  612. 31:01And one day, a friend of mine went on
  613. 31:02stage to sing a children's song by Wolf
  614. 31:05Biermann.
  615. 31:07It caused a scandal because in the GDR,
  616. 31:10Biermann was an enemy of the people.
  617. 31:15>> A critic of the regime, Wolf Biermann,
  618. 31:17was one of the few artists to perform in
  619. 31:20West Germany. His popularity in the West
  620. 31:22protected him, but in the eyes of the
  621. 31:24regime, he was a dangerous enemy.
  622. 31:50>> That same night, we were interrogated by
  623. 31:53the Stasi.
  624. 31:54They knew that we came from families
  625. 31:56loyal to the regime.
  626. 31:57And they put pressure on us to
  627. 31:59officially distance ourselves from
  628. 32:00Biermann. And then, for the first time,
  629. 32:03I said what I really thought.
  630. 32:05What were they going to do? Shoot me?
  631. 32:07But Stalin was long dead.
  632. 32:10I never understood at the time why
  633. 32:12people were tarnishing the image of
  634. 32:13their country by criticizing it in the
  635. 32:15West.
  636. 32:16It was something I couldn't stand.
  637. 32:22>> During his interrogation, the Stasi
  638. 32:25offered Siegfried to become an
  639. 32:26unofficial collaborator.
  640. 32:31But when he refused, they were quick to
  641. 32:33sanction him.
  642. 32:35>> [music]
  643. 32:36>> At the age of 21, Siegfried was expelled
  644. 32:39from university.
  645. 32:46>> It was like my professional death. This
  646. 32:48wasn't the rule of law.
  647. 32:51I couldn't leave the GDR or hire a
  648. 32:53lawyer to challenge their decision.
  649. 32:57I became a worker.
  650. 32:58I was at the very bottom of the social
  651. 33:00ladder. I was doing the worst jobs.
  652. 33:07You want to know what I thought?
  653. 33:12You should have gone to class.
  654. 33:15To me, their behavior was unacceptable.
  655. 33:22I believe that everyone is responsible
  656. 33:24for their own destiny, and one must
  657. 33:26assume the consequences of their
  658. 33:27actions.
  659. 33:34>> Like Siegfried, many were socially
  660. 33:36downgraded and sidelined for opposing
  661. 33:39the Communist Party line.
  662. 33:45>> I would say that part of the department,
  663. 33:48especially the counterintelligence
  664. 33:49agents,
  665. 33:51understood that they were not enemies in
  666. 33:54the strict sense of the word.
  667. 33:58But Mielke didn't care.
  668. 34:01To him, they were against the decisions
  669. 34:04of the party.
  670. 34:05Therefore, they were enemies,
  671. 34:08ideological opponents.
  672. 34:15>> The former pioneer and socialist
  673. 34:17militant then became an object of
  674. 34:20surveillance by the secret services. The
  675. 34:223,000 pages of his file revealed the
  676. 34:25importance that the Stasi had attached
  677. 34:27to him.
  678. 34:28His mail was systematically opened.
  679. 34:33Unofficial collaborators reported his
  680. 34:36every move to their liaison officers.
  681. 34:42But the Stasi didn't just gather
  682. 34:44information about Seinfried and his
  683. 34:46wife.
  684. 34:48It put pressure on the couple
  685. 34:50>> [music]
  686. 34:50>> with particularly treacherous
  687. 34:52techniques.
  688. 34:55>> Whenever we would get home, we
  689. 34:57immediately felt that someone had been
  690. 34:59there.
  691. 35:00The door was open, the light was on, and
  692. 35:02the radio was playing.
  693. 35:04It happened several times.
  694. 35:07My wife used to wash up in a small room
  695. 35:09overlooking a garden. She regularly saw
  696. 35:11a guy there dressed as a jogger who was
  697. 35:14spying on her, hiding behind a bush.
  698. 35:17All of this is in our Stasi file. I'm
  699. 35:18not making anything up.
  700. 35:23>> The couple was victim of what the Stasi
  701. 35:25called Zersetzung or psychological
  702. 35:28breakdown.
  703. 35:32A sneaky method of torture [music]
  704. 35:34elevated to the rank of a science by the
  705. 35:36secret services.
  706. 35:39>> You take the principles of psychology, a
  707. 35:42science that's supposed to contribute to
  708. 35:44the personal development of an
  709. 35:45individual,
  710. 35:48and flip them around to obtain the
  711. 35:50opposite,
  712. 35:53namely the destruction of the
  713. 35:55personality.
  714. 36:00>> The techniques [music] of psychological
  715. 36:01breakdown were taught at the Stasi
  716. 36:03University.
  717. 36:05This discipline even had [music] its own
  718. 36:07chair.
  719. 36:09The reconstruction of the archives has
  720. 36:11given rise to thesis written by doctoral
  721. 36:14candidates.
  722. 36:15Agents used them to develop [music]
  723. 36:17destabilizing techniques.
  724. 36:20>> Some examples are very famous.
  725. 36:24Stasi officers broke into apartments,
  726. 36:27moved objects, or stole only the colored
  727. 36:30tea towels,
  728. 36:31leaving the others.
  729. 36:34And of course, if you tell a
  730. 36:35psychiatrist that people broke into your
  731. 36:37house to steal your tea towels,
  732. 36:40they'll think you're crazy.
  733. 36:42The goal was, of course, to discredit
  734. 36:44individuals within their groups.
  735. 36:47When they said that people had broken
  736. 36:48into their homes to move tea towels,
  737. 36:50they were thought to be crazy.
  738. 36:58The goal was to disrupt the daily life
  739. 37:00of the targeted individual.
  740. 37:04To occupy them so that they no longer
  741. 37:06had the strength to devote themselves to
  742. 37:09their dissident activities.
  743. 37:16>> The imperceptible technique didn't
  744. 37:19replace the strong-arm method.
  745. 37:22In Jena, Stasi agents went on the
  746. 37:24offense and arrested dissidents.
  747. 37:27To his surprise, Siegfried was spared.
  748. 37:34The Stasi had other plans for him. He
  749. 37:36was to become the centerpiece of a plot
  750. 37:39to destroy the unity of his group.
  751. 37:46>> My friend Jürgen Fuchs was incarcerated
  752. 37:48in Hohenschönhausen,
  753. 37:50the Stasi's central prison in Berlin.
  754. 37:53That's where he was shown documents
  755. 37:55written in my handwriting,
  756. 37:57and told I was confessing in the cell
  757. 37:58next door, that I was cooperating with
  758. 38:01them.
  759. 38:06Then the Stasi spread a whole bunch of
  760. 38:07rumors about me.
  761. 38:10They said I had switched camps in prison
  762. 38:12and become an unofficial collaborator.
  763. 38:15I was stuck.
  764. 38:17This was a very dark time for me.
  765. 38:20>> The effect of it is really to
  766. 38:22the fundamental human bonds that keep a
  767. 38:24society going.
  768. 38:26So, the Stasi was a system that ran on
  769. 38:28fear and betrayal
  770. 38:30to run a nation [music] and to ruin its
  771. 38:32own people.
  772. 38:36>> In 1981, Siegfried and [music] his wife
  773. 38:38were stripped of their East German
  774. 38:40citizenship and deported to the West, a
  775. 38:42method frequently used by the regime to
  776. 38:45get rid of rebellious elements.
  777. 38:51In exile, Siegfried tried to reconnect
  778. 38:54with his friends, but rumors spread by
  779. 38:56the [music] Stasi had poisoned their
  780. 38:58relations.
  781. 39:02Siegfried [music] found himself
  782. 39:04isolated. It would take 10 years to find
  783. 39:06his file in the archives and clear his
  784. 39:09name of any suspicion.
  785. 39:16>> [music]
  786. 39:16>> Psychological breakdown, surveillance,
  787. 39:18arrests. In the 1980s, the system of
  788. 39:22repression was at its peak.
  789. 39:31The Stasi's obsession with control made
  790. 39:33the archives grow exponentially.
  791. 39:381/6 of the ministry's officers [music]
  792. 39:40were busy managing 41 million files.
  793. 39:48>> Today, we have files on people who
  794. 39:50simply passed in front of the Soviet
  795. 39:52barracks.
  796. 39:55Some of the files contain license plates
  797. 39:57of Western cars.
  798. 40:01You almost feel sorry for the checkers
  799. 40:03who spent his time writing down all
  800. 40:05these figures.
  801. 40:08>> They collected on their own people more
  802. 40:11information in written records than in
  803. 40:13the rest of German history since the
  804. 40:15Middle Ages.
  805. 40:17This was an obsession.
  806. 40:19>> [music]
  807. 40:19>> It was
  808. 40:21perfectionizing, as they say in German,
  809. 40:23"Perfektionieren." It was obsessive and
  810. 40:25meticulous.
  811. 40:29>> The Stasi was also expanding its network
  812. 40:31of IM, the unofficial collaborators.
  813. 40:34With 189,000
  814. 40:36people, it had become twice as large as
  815. 40:38the number of agents. There were even
  816. 40:41minors among them, including Angela
  817. 40:43Merten, the daughter of parents who were
  818. 40:46both IM. She was easy prey.
  819. 40:51>> I grew up on these people's laps. I was
  820. 40:54a child when they came into my life. I
  821. 40:56thought they were friendly.
  822. 40:58They were interested in me, my school,
  823. 41:00my sporting activities, but they had
  824. 41:02good reasons to be nice to me.
  825. 41:06>> At age 15, encouraged by her [music]
  826. 41:08parents, Angela signed the declaration
  827. 41:10of commitment to the Stasi.
  828. 41:13Her code name,
  829. 41:14Katrin Brandt. [music]
  830. 41:17>> They asked me about my classmates, for
  831. 41:19example, Silke and David.
  832. 41:23Today, I know that Silke's mother had
  833. 41:25applied to leave the GDR, something I
  834. 41:27didn't know at the time.
  835. 41:30Of course, now I understand why they
  836. 41:32were interested in her.
  837. 41:38They also tested how far they could go
  838. 41:40with me.
  839. 41:43I remember my parents asking me to write
  840. 41:45a report about David.
  841. 41:48I'm not proud of that.
  842. 41:51I was told to be
  843. 41:53so I did.
  844. 41:56>> The Stasi [music] tested Angela because
  845. 41:58it was preparing the next generation.
  846. 42:01Upon reaching the age of maturity, the
  847. 42:03girl was destined to infiltrate
  848. 42:05religious circles. She discovered that
  849. 42:07fact [music] thanks to the opening of
  850. 42:09the archives.
  851. 42:11>> The Stasi had planned life up until
  852. 42:131995.
  853. 42:15My trajectory was already mapped out. I
  854. 42:18had to join a religious group.
  855. 42:20In my file, it was written that I would
  856. 42:22go to study theology. And once my
  857. 42:24studies were over, I would be
  858. 42:26operational.
  859. 42:29>> The archives revealed that some 1,300
  860. 42:32minors were recruited in the school
  861. 42:34yards. The youngest of them was 12 years
  862. 42:37old.
  863. 42:40But just as Angela was signing her
  864. 42:42commitment to the Stasi, a massive
  865. 42:44political earthquake took place.
  866. 42:47On March 11th, 1985 in Moscow, Mikhail
  867. 42:51Gorbachev was appointed General
  868. 42:53Secretary of the Party.
  869. 42:54Aware of the enormous economic and
  870. 42:56political difficulties the communist
  871. 42:58world was facing, Gorbachev launched
  872. 43:00several reforms.
  873. 43:03In the Eastern Bloc, his projects
  874. 43:05triggered a genuine Gorby-mania that
  875. 43:07left no one unaffected, not even Stasi
  876. 43:10agents.
  877. 43:14>> I was an unconditional admirer of his
  878. 43:16policies. I read everything he wrote.
  879. 43:19I even obtained his texts illegally.
  880. 43:24I admired him because he gave the
  881. 43:25impression that change was possible.
  882. 43:31To be honest with you,
  883. 43:33I thought Gorbachev was good for only
  884. 43:35about a quarter of a second.
  885. 43:37I knew full well that he was actually
  886. 43:40the liquidator of the system.
  887. 43:43It made me sad because I knew that it
  888. 43:45was the beginning of the end.
  889. 43:51>> [music]
  890. 43:51>> Encouraged by this wind of freedom
  891. 43:53blowing from Moscow, popular opposition
  892. 43:55began to emerge in East Germany.
  893. 44:00Starting in 1989, peaceful
  894. 44:02demonstrations were organized throughout
  895. 44:04the country.
  896. 44:09The Stasi was there to film
  897. 44:11>> [music]
  898. 44:11>> and arrest people.
  899. 44:16But its intimidation tactics were less
  900. 44:18and less effective.
  901. 44:24It was in this deleterious atmosphere
  902. 44:27that the GDR celebrated its 40th
  903. 44:29anniversary on October 7th, 1989
  904. 44:32in the presence of Mikhail Gorbachev.
  905. 44:35This official footage showed everyone
  906. 44:37smiling.
  907. 44:43Yet away from the festivities in front
  908. 44:45of the Stasi cameras, the ranks of the
  909. 44:47demonstrators were growing.
  910. 44:54Spoiling the GDR's anniversary was the
  911. 44:57ultimate affront.
  912. 44:59The next day at the Ministry for State
  913. 45:01Secretary, the situation was critical.
  914. 45:05For Mielke, it was time to take out
  915. 45:06their secret weapon, Directive 167, put
  916. 45:10into place since the 1960s.
  917. 45:13The head of the Stasi even obtained
  918. 45:16Honecker's support.
  919. 45:19But in the face of these fathers and
  920. 45:21mothers who walked quietly with their
  921. 45:23children, Directive 167 deflated like a
  922. 45:27balloon.
  923. 45:31Peacefully defeated by its people, the
  924. 45:33party renounced violence.
  925. 45:38Having become powerless, the Stasi
  926. 45:40settled for taking note of the
  927. 45:41overwhelmingly accusatory slogans
  928. 45:44against it.
  929. 45:47>> [music]
  930. 45:55>> Aware that the tide had turned, some of
  931. 45:57these departments were already
  932. 45:59destroying their most compromising
  933. 46:01archives.
  934. 46:04>> [cheering]
  935. 46:06[screaming]
  936. 46:07[applause]
  937. 46:11>> That evening, the anti-fascist ramparts,
  938. 46:13so strictly guarded by the Stasi, gave
  939. 46:16way.
  940. 46:18Better yet, it was one of its agents
  941. 46:19who, in front of the crowd, had no
  942. 46:21choice but to open the first checkpoint
  943. 46:24at Bornholmer Straße.
  944. 46:37>> [music]
  945. 46:42>> We were all petrified with fear.
  946. 46:46Sitting in the dark in our offices with
  947. 46:48the curtains drawn,
  948. 46:50hoping that nothing would happen to us.
  949. 46:55>> [cheering]
  950. 47:03>> I saw it on TV.
  951. 47:07It was a time when emotions ran very
  952. 47:10high.
  953. 47:17We wondered what would happen to us.
  954. 47:26WHAT CAN I TELL YOU?
  955. 47:28IT WAS THE ICING on the cake of the
  956. 47:29disaster.
  957. 47:32I was sad,
  958. 47:33very sad.
  959. 47:35People had changed overnight.
  960. 47:37They were manipulated by money.
  961. 47:39I never went to get the 100 welcome
  962. 47:41marks that the FRG distributed to
  963. 47:43everyone.
  964. 47:45I would have rather chopped my hand off.
  965. 47:49>> While reunification was still at the
  966. 47:51project stage,
  967. 47:53it quickly became clear that without a
  968. 47:55communist party to protect, the East
  969. 47:57German secret services
  970. 47:59>> [music]
  971. 47:59>> had no reason to exist.
  972. 48:05On June 30th, 1990, the Stasi was simply
  973. 48:09dissolved after 40 years of good and
  974. 48:12faithful service.
  975. 48:14>> When the Stasi was dissolved, we had to
  976. 48:17go to the office for one last time. We
  977. 48:19had to return our service weapon, our
  978. 48:21equipment, the keys. Everyone received a
  979. 48:24bonus of 8,000 Ostmarks that had to be
  980. 48:27converted into Western marks,
  981. 48:29and it all drew to a close.
  982. 48:36>> Ironically, the omnipresent [music] and
  983. 48:38omnipotent Stasi had a contingency plan
  984. 48:41for everything
  985. 48:43except its own downfall and that of the
  986. 48:46regime it protected.
  987. 49:23>> [music]
  988. 49:36[music]
  989. 49:41[music]
  990. 49:49[music]
  991. 49:57>> Mhm.

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