SRLS: come creare una microimpresa, come funziona, come gestirla e tutti i costi — Transcript
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- 0:01Would you like to open an LLC and walk
- 0:03around acting like a big shot, calling
- 0:05yourself an entrepreneur? Would you?
- 0:08Well, in this video, we're going to
- 0:12look into the affairs of my micro,
- 0:15micro LLC—how to open an LLC, how I
- 0:18manage mine (rather than how it should
- 0:22be managed), and all the oddities of
- 0:25Italian bureaucracy, specifically
- 0:28regarding those tiny companies usually
- 0:31started as an alternative to a sole
- 0:35proprietorship. As many of you likely
- 0:40know, I opened my micro LLC primarily
- 0:43to manage this YouTube channel. A
- 0:46YouTube channel that, honestly,
- 0:48requires virtually no management other
- 0:51than the bureaucratic side. So, in this
- 0:54video, we are talking about an
- 0:56extremely small LLC. I won't be
- 0:58teaching you how to deal with employees
- 1:00because there isn't a single one in
- 1:02sight here. We will focus mostly on the
- 1:07bureaucratic aspects and everything
- 1:08surrounding them, intended primarily
- 1:10for those who are unsure whether to
- 1:12choose a standard sole proprietorship
- 1:14or an LLC. First of all, what is an LLC
- 1:18? An LLC is a capital-based company.
- 1:21Essentially, there are two types of
- 1:23capital companies in Italy: the LLC and
- 1:25the PLC, the public limited company.
- 1:28The difference mainly lies in the fact
- 1:30that the PLC makes it easier to
- 1:32transfer shares, is meant for trading
- 1:35shares among partners, is obviously
- 1:37intended for larger companies, and has
- 1:39different capital requirements and
- 1:41other burdens. The LLC, on the other
- 1:44hand, is a capital company. Being a
- 1:46capital company means that the partners
- 1:49are shareholders of capital rather than
- 1:52personal partners; therefore, it has
- 1:55what is called perfect financial
- 1:58independence, meaning the LLC's money
- 2:00is not the partners 'money. It has
- 2:04nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with
- 2:06the partners' personal money, except in
- 2:09rare situations, such as criminal
- 2:11liability of the director, but
- 2:12otherwise, nothing at all. Whereas in
- 2:16other typical partnerships, like
- 2:18general partnerships or limited
- 2:20partnerships, the personal money of the
- 2:22partners and the company's money are
- 2:24commingled. So the LLC is completely
- 2:28independent; it has its own funds, its
- 2:30own legal personality, and is, let's
- 2:32say, a separate entity. The LLC
- 2:37requires a director and a balance sheet
- 2:39—a balance sheet that must be made
- 2:41public, where "public" means it is
- 2:43filed with the Chamber of Commerce, and
- 2:45then you have to pay to see it. And
- 2:49precisely, the LLC, especially in its
- 2:51small version, is seen as an upgrade to
- 2:53a sole proprietorship or a sole trader
- 2:55business, which is essentially a
- 2:57VAT-registered business but in a more
- 2:59commercial version. So, scaling up when
- 3:03earnings start to become substantial—
- 3:05that "LL" stands for limited liability.
- 3:08It means the LLC is only liable for the
- 3:11money it has, and partners are liable
- 3:12only for the money they put in, meaning
- 3:15their initial contributions, their
- 3:16initial capital. So, unless a partner
- 3:23provides a personal guarantee, meaning
- 3:26they put their own money on the line,
- 3:28their personal assets remain intact, or
- 3:31unless the manager deliberately engages
- 3:34in gross mismanagement. It has its own
- 3:38VAT number, its own tax ID, which I
- 3:41honestly still haven't understood why (
- 3:43in 99%of cases an LLC's tax ID is the
- 3:46same as its VAT number, but there's
- 3:49that 1%of cases where it's a different
- 3:51number), it must have its own bank
- 3:54account, its own certified email; it is
- 3:57practically another, I won't say person
- 4:00, but entity. The law also defines
- 4:03micro-enterprises by setting limits
- 4:06that I believe are assets of no more
- 4:09than € 220,000, revenue of no more
- 4:12than € 440,000, and no more than five
- 4:15employees. In this case, you have
- 4:18advantages: the balance sheet is super
- 4:19abbreviated, there's no explanatory
- 4:21note to the financial statements, and
- 4:22no cash flow statement. I will talk
- 4:25about a business that is even more "
- 4:27micro," because you keep using those
- 4:30cursed ad-blockers, so we don't reach
- 4:32€ 440,000 in revenue here with the
- 4:35company. As I said, it is a company, so
- 4:39it has partners. It is also allowed to
- 4:42have a single partner, so only one
- 4:44owner, which is my case, obviously.
- 4:46What is the difference between an LLC
- 4:48and a Simplified LLC? Now, our
- 4:50fantastic lawmakers have invented this
- 4:53"Simplified LLC." You will hear me
- 4:55being a bit polemical, even though I
- 4:57have a Simplified LLC—the "S" stands
- 4:59for simplified, it is the simplified
- 5:01version of the LLC. What are the
- 5:03differences in a nutshell? Difference
- 5:06number one is that the share capital
- 5:08can be as little as € 1. Share
- 5:09capital is the money that partners pay
- 5:12in at incorporation, while in the case
- 5:16of a standard LLC, it must be at least
- 5:17€ 10,000, even though they can pay in
- 5:19only a part of it if there are multiple
- 5:21partners. Anyway, while an LLC requires
- 5:24a certain amount of share capital, a
- 5:25Simplified LLC requires one euro. I
- 5:28preferred to put in € 4,900, because
- 5:30when a Simplified LLC starts, it needs
- 5:32money just to pay the notary, the
- 5:34notary fees, and all the costs and
- 5:36oddities—which we will look at in
- 5:38detail with the numbers later—so it
- 5:41needs cash. It is quite irrelevant to
- 5:43start it with only one euro, also
- 5:45because you then have to make a
- 5:46shareholder contribution immediately.
- 5:49It has a standard charter, so you
- 5:51cannot include specific things in it,
- 5:53such as particular rights for the
- 5:55shareholders. Therefore, the charter is
- 5:58quite standard; there are a few fields
- 6:00that can be slightly changed, but
- 6:01nothing more, and it only admits
- 6:03natural persons as shareholders. By the
- 6:06way, I wonder what happens here if one
- 6:08of the partners—accountant friends,
- 6:11write in the comments—what happens if
- 6:13one of the partners decides to leave
- 6:15their shares to a legal entity. At that
- 6:18point, the simplified LLC (SRLS)
- 6:20becomes a contradiction in terms.
- 6:23However, by regulation, only natural
- 6:24persons are allowed. This makes it a
- 6:27bit more difficult for the SRLS to do
- 6:29what is called an exit, because
- 6:31normally an exit involves selling a
- 6:36large part of the shares to a fund,
- 6:38typically, or to a large company; so,
- 6:41the SRLS is destined if...If you want
- 6:43to exit, you must transform it into an
- 6:45SRL; it is always possible to do so,
- 6:48clearly. In my case, I created an SRLS
- 6:52on purpose to force myself never to
- 6:54have this bright idea of selling the
- 6:56channel management shares to a fund, so
- 6:58we are sure that I always manage it
- 7:00myself in the artisanal way that I
- 7:02think you appreciate. The advantage is
- 7:06that—and pay attention to this
- 7:08advantage—the notary you have to go
- 7:11to in order to incorporate the SRLS
- 7:13cannot ask you for a fee for the
- 7:15incorporation. Now, I think any sane
- 7:18person hearing this phrase of mine must
- 7:20have said, "What?" I mean, the notary,
- 7:24which is one of the best-paid
- 7:26professions in Italy, cannot—and he
- 7:28is a freelancer, meaning he is not a
- 7:31state employee—he cannot ask you for
- 7:34a fee for the SRLS. Now, promise to let
- 7:38me go on a tangent here. Can you
- 7:41imagine? You go to a notary who, let's
- 7:44say, is well-paid and you tell him, "I
- 7:46want to start an SRLS," and he has to
- 7:48take the time to examine your situation
- 7:50, examine your charter, set up a
- 7:51meeting, and so on and so forth without
- 7:53any compensation. But who made this law
- 7:57? What were they smoking? I mean, come
- 8:00on, let's be honest about it. So, I
- 8:04expect that in cases like this, the
- 8:05notary will often, at the very least,
- 8:07put you at the end of their appointment
- 8:09list, so you'll end up forming the SRLS
- 8:11next year. And rightly so, because,
- 8:14well, it also has a small constraint on
- 8:17the allocation of profits: at least 20%
- 8:20must be put into a legal reserve until
- 8:23the legal reserve plus the share
- 8:25capital reach € 10,000. Which is
- 8:28quite irrelevant. If you intend to
- 8:30build a company that makes a little
- 8:32money, you can always easily switch
- 8:35from an SRLS to an SRL, obviously,
- 8:37which only makes sense if you plan to
- 8:39bring legal entities in as shareholders
- 8:42. Differences between an SRLS and a
- 8:46standard VAT number. Oh, I won't even
- 8:48talk about the differences with the
- 8:50flat-rate VAT scheme, because I know
- 8:52very well that those in the flat-rate
- 8:54scheme are very careful not to switch,
- 8:56not to leave that tax regime; in fact,
- 8:58they would rather turn down work—I
- 9:00hope that happens to me too next year
- 9:01—they would rather turn down work
- 9:03just to avoid leaving that tax regime.
- 9:06Differences between a standard VAT
- 9:08number and an SRLS, an SRL in general.
- 9:11So, I'm speaking to those who are
- 9:13already on a standard VAT number,
- 9:15earning around 150—because with less,
- 9:17the flat-rate scheme might have been
- 9:20better—earning around 150, making
- 9:22150-200,000 euros in revenue and
- 9:24wanting to make the leap to an SRL. Now
- 9:26, the difference is essentially in
- 9:28taxation. The standard VAT number has
- 9:33its INPS contributions to pay,
- 9:35obviously, and is taxed according to
- 9:37income tax brackets which are 23%to 43%
- 9:40. If you are at the figures I mentioned
- 9:43before, you are surely in the 43%
- 9:44bracket, and furthermore, your INPS is
- 9:46likely capped. Perhaps you don't know,
- 9:49but INPS is not on everything you earn;
- 9:52apart from the taxable base limitation,
- 9:54there is also an upper limit of about
- 9:56110,000 euros, so you pay INPS up to
- 9:58110,000 euros and after that you don't
- 10:00pay it anymore because you are
- 10:02considered to have contributed enough.
- 10:05This is the standard VAT number. The
- 10:07SRL, on the other hand, the SRL in
- 10:09general, is taxed with IRES and IRAP.
- 10:13IRES and IRAP, just to give a rough
- 10:15estimate, a rough calculation, is about
- 10:1827%. Maybe 28%. IRAP depends obviously
- 10:24on the region; it's a regional tax on
- 10:27productive activities, so it depends on
- 10:30the region—calculate about 4%—so it
- 10:33comes to about 28%. So, the SRL is
- 10:40taxed at 28%, while personal income tax
- 10:44is in brackets of 23%, 33%, 43%. It
- 10:49seems obvious that the SRL is better,
- 10:51but no, because the SRL is taxed at 28%
- 10:57, but then the money belongs to the SRL
- 10:59; don't forget what I said at the
- 11:01beginning, it is a different entity.
- 11:03The money belongs to the SRL and, in
- 11:05theory, you cannot spend it on your own
- 11:08personal business. To spend it, to cash
- 11:11it out, you have to pay yourself a
- 11:13dividend. I am always talking about an
- 11:16SRL with few partners, so paying
- 11:18yourself a dividend means you agree
- 11:19with the other partners. Saying, "this
- 11:21year we pay a dividend," paying
- 11:22yourself a dividend on which you will
- 11:24pay an additional 26%. So in the end,
- 11:27the taxation you get on distributed
- 11:29profit, when all is said and done, is
- 11:32very, very similar to the famous 43%.
- 11:36Now, however, there are various methods
- 11:39to pull money out of an SRL which we
- 11:44might examine in more detail later.
- 11:47Clearly legal methods and clearly
- 11:48limited methods, eh; it's not like you
- 11:51can pull out 500 million euros without
- 11:53paying a single cent in taxes. There
- 11:55are limited methods, director
- 11:56compensation, reimbursements, and so on
- 11:58, which we might analyze later. So, the
- 12:00trade-off between a VAT number and an
- 12:03SRL is mainly based on that VAT tax
- 12:05rate, which is 43%. And it's also about
- 12:10liability. The SRL relieves you of
- 12:14certain responsibilities, unless
- 12:16there's mismanagement by the director,
- 12:18or unless you are one of those partners
- 12:21who provides a personal guarantee for a
- 12:23loan taken out by the SRL. This is one
- 12:28way to end up in personal bankruptcy,
- 12:31and except for these two cases, the SRL
- 12:33totally protects you; your assets
- 12:36cannot be touched, whereas if you're a
- 12:38sole trader and, say, someone sues you,
- 12:41then your assets are entirely at risk.
- 12:44If someone sues the SRL, only the SRL's
- 12:47assets are at risk. Anyway, we'll see
- 12:50these details a bit later in the video,
- 12:53but let's start by telling my personal
- 12:55experience setting up an SRLS. First of
- 13:01all, step one: go to an accountant. Why
- 13:04, though? For starters, the accountant
- 13:08—if they are an accountant worthy of
- 13:10the name and not just a bookkeeper—
- 13:12will advise you on whether a sole
- 13:15proprietorship, a freelance VAT number,
- 13:17a business, or an SRLS is better, or
- 13:20even the flat-rate scheme that you
- 13:22didn't notice, even though at this
- 13:24point you haven't even asked ChatGPT.
- 13:29In short, go to an accountant, present
- 13:31your whole idea, and get them to
- 13:32dedicate more than 3 minutes—because
- 13:34if the accountant only gives you a
- 13:35measly 3 minutes, it's a no-go—get
- 13:37them to dedicate, well, some time, and
- 13:39pay them if necessary. There's this
- 13:42idea that consultations in Italy
- 13:44shouldn't be paid for; I salute all
- 13:46those who ask me for free financial
- 13:48advice starting with "this isn't a
- 13:50request for consultation." So, you can
- 13:53go to the accountant, and if the
- 13:55accountant says, "Okay, an SRLS is your
- 13:57solution," then you proceed with the
- 13:59SRLS. You should also have a rough idea
- 14:01of how much you're going to earn, eh?
- 14:05Okay. So, the accountant is the first
- 14:07step, and then the accountant will
- 14:08likely be the one who follows your
- 14:09progress. The accountant prepares
- 14:11everything for you, and after that, you
- 14:13have to go to the notary. Now, I spent
- 14:16€ 410 at the notary's office. Initial
- 14:22costs. Now, don't ask me for what,
- 14:26because when the notary asks me for
- 14:28money, I pay and stay quiet. So, as I
- 14:31was saying, I asked the notary for an
- 14:34additional € 400 consultation, and
- 14:36miraculously, the spot, the appointment
- 14:39to set up the SRLS, happened quickly.
- 14:44So, unlike what I said before, in my
- 14:46case, the spot to get the SRL and to
- 14:48incorporate the SRLS came about quickly
- 14:50. In my case, I brought the share
- 14:55capital in cold hard cash—50 and 100
- 14:59euro bills, just straight cash. €
- 15:034,900 in cash, and to withdraw it from
- 15:05my bank in cash, I had to notify them
- 15:07beforehand. That wasn't enough, because
- 15:09even when I went there, they gave me a
- 15:10hard time and said, "Did you notify us
- 15:11a week ago, okay? I had to notify them
- 15:13in advance." And obviously, they even
- 15:15wanted the deed of incorporation to
- 15:17justify such a sudden withdrawal of €
- 15:194,900. I remember the good old days, 15
- 15:21years ago, when you could withdraw €
- 15:2310,000 in cash and nobody said a thing.
- 15:25Alright, so I deposited the capital.
- 15:28You'll see later, there's a smarter way
- 15:30than this—I discovered it, but later
- 15:32on, it's tied to the video's sponsor.
- 15:34There is a slightly smarter method than
- 15:36this. There's no need to bring cold
- 15:38hard cash, also because I then ended up
- 15:40with this SRLS that had everything in
- 15:43the till, meaning € 4,900 in cash. I
- 15:46said, well, for the first few months I
- 15:48paid everything I could in cash. Well,
- 15:51it seemed okay. Then other initial
- 15:56costs: the SRL must have a...the SRL
- 15:57must have a PEC (certified email);
- 15:59honestly, you can find it for € 6
- 16:01from a well-known PEC provider that has
- 16:03the address [email protected]. So don't get
- 16:08ripped off. It happened to a friend of
- 16:10mine; he got ripped off by some letters
- 16:13he received that made it look like he
- 16:15absolutely had to get the PEC with a
- 16:17certain provider. Instead, we—it took
- 16:202 years to convince him, "Look, you
- 16:21don't need to get it with the one that
- 16:23charges you € 50; get it with the
- 16:24other one that charges you six." Okay?
- 16:27So the SRL must have its own PEC, and
- 16:28the director must also have a PEC. But
- 16:32on this, let's say, in 2026, having a
- 16:33PEC as an individual is very convenient
- 16:35, because then you can send things to
- 16:36public administrations and pester them.
- 16:39Now, the University of Bolzano, for
- 16:40example, demands a PEC to participate
- 16:42in competitions; otherwise, no go. Then
- 16:46, uh, it must have an electronic
- 16:48invoicing system. We'll see this too;
- 16:50you can choose an independent one, or
- 16:52it can be linked to the sponsor we'll
- 16:54see in the video. Anyway, I'll tell you
- 16:58, usually, an electronic invoicing
- 17:00system costs relatively little, so up
- 17:02to now, we are at € 410 in mandatory
- 17:04expenses. Sit down for this one,
- 17:07because here begin the quirks of the
- 17:08Italian system that I just love. So,
- 17:11I’m reading: Chamber of Commerce
- 17:13registration, € 32. I mean, why do
- 17:17they have to charge such trivial
- 17:19amounts? Fine, okay. And for the
- 17:23accountant to set up the company, I
- 17:25spent € 300. Um, then, then, then
- 17:30here it is: I’ll say it: stamping of
- 17:35the accounting books. You have to have
- 17:39accounting books that need to be
- 17:40stamped. You might say, "But I keep an
- 17:42Excel sheet, I don't use accounting
- 17:44books." I keep an Excel sheet too, pal.
- 17:48I mean, I've never even seen these
- 17:49accounting books, let me tell you this
- 17:50anecdote. After I paid for the stamping
- 17:53of the accounting books—which I’ll
- 17:54tell you the cost of—a few months
- 17:55later I said to my accountant, "Sorry,
- 17:57but I paid for this stamping, shouldn't
- 17:58I actually have these books?" He says,
- 18:01"Oh, shoot.""That's true, we need to
- 18:02buy them and go to a notary." So the
- 18:07accountant bought the accounting books,
- 18:09went to a notary who physically stamped
- 18:11them—not my notary, one near his
- 18:13office—I’ve never even laid eyes on
- 18:15them. Right now, my accounting books
- 18:19are in the accountant’s basement, and
- 18:21the notary with the stamp—you know
- 18:24Checco Zalone, right? When the
- 18:26minister's assistant asks him, "And
- 18:28what did you do for a living?" Well, he
- 18:31does exactly this; yes, exactly like
- 18:33that, stamping books that will never be
- 18:35used in history. So, this stamping of
- 18:38the accounting books costs you, uh, let
- 18:41me see, € 309.87. That figure plus,
- 18:48um, € 16 for every 100 pages. Ok,
- 18:52that's fine. Plus € 77 I had to pay
- 18:57the notary to do the Checco Zalone job,
- 19:03to stamp the books, because apparently
- 19:04he really did stamp them. Okay. I mean,
- 19:07seriously now, I sometimes wonder: do
- 19:09we actually have lawmakers, or are they
- 19:11just playing dumb? I mean, not getting
- 19:13rid of this requirement is completely
- 19:14absurd, come on. Yeah, I read what's
- 19:16supposed to be written in those
- 19:17accounting books. For some companies it
- 19:20might make sense, but really—and by
- 19:23the way, I know an entrepreneur who, I
- 19:25happen to know, at one point told me, "
- 19:28Shoot, you know, I forgot I had to
- 19:30stamp the accounting books, I never did
- 19:33." So, he went and reported the
- 19:36accounting books as lost. Alright. Okay
- 19:40. Then, before you go to the notary,
- 19:42you need to get a personal certified
- 19:44email (PEC), okay? Better if you also
- 19:47get yourself a digital signature. The
- 19:50digital signature is real, it's not
- 19:52like you signed a piece of paper and
- 19:53scanned it; that is not a digital
- 19:55signature. There are digital signature
- 19:57providers that give them to you, not as
- 19:59cheaply as PEC, but they give it to you
- 20:01at a relatively low cost. Then I
- 20:03collect the tax ID codes of the
- 20:05shareholders and the share capital.
- 20:08Okay, well, it has to be communicated.
- 20:11The accountant will handle the
- 20:12communication to everyone, to the
- 20:14business registry to retrieve the VAT
- 20:16number, to the INPS, to the INAIL. Okay
- 20:19, the accountant does it all,
- 20:20fortunately. So, after one or two days,
- 20:23you have your VAT number and your
- 20:24articles of incorporation—well,
- 20:26nobody will ask you for the articles of
- 20:28incorporation, but everyone will ask
- 20:30you for the Chamber of Commerce
- 20:31registration, and you'll also have your
- 20:33VAT number. Do you think you can start?
- 20:38No, no, no, you don't need to get the
- 20:40whole thing up and running yet. So,
- 20:43plan on at least a week after you’ve
- 20:45created the articles of incorporation
- 20:47before starting business; you'll say, "
- 20:49What's the rush?" Well, usually, let's
- 20:52be honest, those who set up an SRL have
- 20:54already—in some cases, you do it
- 20:56completely blindly, like, who knows if
- 20:58it will work. In other cases, you have
- 21:02already tested this technology—excuse
- 21:05me, this type of business—perhaps
- 21:07with occasional self-employment work,
- 21:09so you're itching to start the business
- 21:11seriously with an SRL. Okay? There is a
- 21:16whole series of mandatory books that
- 21:18the accountant keeps. I haven't seen a
- 21:20single mandatory book, I haven't seen
- 21:22one at all. If I have to sign something
- 21:24, I obviously sign it digitally. I have
- 21:26no problem with my accountant, and he
- 21:29is very far from me. We do everything
- 21:32online, and my accountant has a large
- 21:35firm. The person specifically assigned
- 21:37to me, I haven't even seen them on a
- 21:38call. Wait, ah yes, maybe once on a
- 21:40call. Yes, okay. I refuse to do, um,
- 21:44but they always answer emails, so I'm
- 21:46fine. The head of the firm, however, I
- 21:50see for other reasons that don't have
- 21:52to do with the business because I knew
- 21:54him from before, but still, consider
- 21:57that if you have a micro-business, you
- 21:59can easily have an accountant who is
- 22:01far away, as long as they are sharp and
- 22:03handle the calls, etcetera. Attention,
- 22:07attention. As soon as your SRL is
- 22:10registered with the Chamber of Commerce
- 22:12, you will receive scam attempts. And
- 22:15I'm not joking. As soon as your SRL is
- 22:17put in the Chamber of Commerce, a scam
- 22:19attempt. Luckily for me, on the same
- 22:21day—and this probably saved me—I
- 22:23received two letters in the mailbox at
- 22:26my company's registered office, because
- 22:28, ah, the company has to have an
- 22:30address; it wouldn't be ideal if it
- 22:32were your home, but it could be your
- 22:34home. I open the mailbox and say, "Oh,
- 22:36they've already written to me, who
- 22:38knows, maybe it's the Chamber of...No,
- 22:42I open the first letter and there was a
- 22:45postal payment slip with a bizarre
- 22:47figure on it, like the one for stamping
- 22:49accounting books, 309, the classic
- 22:51public agency figure. You never
- 22:54understand why public agencies always
- 22:55have to ask you for these bizarre
- 22:57figures, they rarely ask for a round
- 22:58number." There was the classic public
- 23:02agency figure and, at that point,
- 23:03it’s on a postal slip, but consider
- 23:05that you're used to paying postal slips
- 23:07because you have to pay for the first
- 23:09stamping of accounting books with a
- 23:11postal slip since you don't have a
- 23:12business bank account yet. So, in short
- 23:16, it’s not that strange to pay for
- 23:18things with a postal slip, to wait in
- 23:20line with the pensioners withdrawing
- 23:22their pensions in cash. There. And
- 23:25luckily for me, in the same mailbox,
- 23:28there was another letter that I open.
- 23:30There is—there is another slip, very
- 23:32similar to the previous one, with
- 23:34another figure, this one again with a
- 23:37bunch of decimals, another figure, and
- 23:39a cover letter. Let's say these
- 23:42scammers have a slightly cleaner
- 23:44conscience, and they were two
- 23:46associations that had nothing to do
- 23:48with trade associations, nothing to do
- 23:50with mandatory associations you have to
- 23:52join, nothing to do with the Chamber of
- 23:54Commerce, that took the data from the
- 23:57Chamber of Commerce of new companies
- 23:59and try to send you that slip, which is
- 24:01a slip where you sign up for their
- 24:03association. Period. Practically
- 24:08non-existent associations. Luckily the
- 24:11second one was a bit more honest than
- 24:13the first and had an explanatory letter
- 24:14where you could read between the lines
- 24:16that it wasn't mandatory, and my luck
- 24:18was that they arrived together, so
- 24:20obviously I caught them; because if
- 24:21only one had arrived, I probably would
- 24:23have paid it. Let’s say that among
- 24:26all the 7,000 things you have to do, a
- 24:28new slip arrives, oh well, you pay that
- 24:30too, I mean, amen. So, keep your guard
- 24:32up; if you set up an LLC, you’ll get
- 24:35scam attempts immediately. I must say,
- 24:37I haven't received any more after these
- 24:39two, but let's say it was a definitely
- 24:41unpleasant start. Uh, there is a choice
- 24:44of the ATECO code to register with the
- 24:46Chamber of Commerce. Well, your
- 24:47accountant will help you with that. I'm
- 24:50telling you, add more than one if you
- 24:52have any idea of doing other stuff, or
- 24:54even just a vague idea, because
- 24:56otherwise you pay to add the ATECO code
- 24:58. You pay to add an ATECO code, okay?
- 25:01And don't try to do things by yourself.
- 25:04I tried changing my ATECO code on my
- 25:06own. At some point, I waved the white
- 25:07flag and told my accountant, "Fine,
- 25:09I'll pay you, you do it." There you go.
- 25:12So, put in multiple ATECO codes right
- 25:14away—I won't say as many as possible,
- 25:16but all the activities you have in mind
- 25:18; your accountant can advise you, and
- 25:20possibly a notary, if you pay for their
- 25:22consultation on the company's scope.
- 25:25The activities must clearly reflect the
- 25:26company's scope, even though there are
- 25:28companies that have one thing as their
- 25:29scope and then who knows what they
- 25:30actually do. And finally, to finish up,
- 25:35the company needs a business account, a
- 25:38specific business account. Be careful,
- 25:44because unlike for sole traders, it
- 25:46cannot be a personal account, so forget
- 25:48about special offers, because personal
- 25:51accounts literally throw zero-fee
- 25:52accounts at you. For business accounts,
- 25:56it's not like that, and it's precisely
- 25:59on this business account that the video
- 26:01sponsor comes in, because I wanted to
- 26:03sponsor the business account that I
- 26:05chose myself; actually, my accountant
- 26:08recommended it, and I went to them and
- 26:10bugged them saying, "Hey, I really like
- 26:12your account, let me sponsor the video,
- 26:14eh." Okay, my accountant suggested I
- 26:19use Qonto, see? Qonto, spelled Q-T-O.
- 26:23Business account. I've used it from the
- 26:26start, and I've been very happy with it
- 26:29. It gave me free instant transfers
- 26:32even before free—well, not free, but
- 26:35moderately priced instant transfers for
- 26:37individuals arrived, to the point where
- 26:39many people are surprised that I pay
- 26:42invoices in no time with an instant
- 26:44transfer. Above all, it's crucial that
- 26:48the business account supports F24 tax
- 26:51payments. I know you'll say, "Yeah, but
- 26:55I can pay them on the Revenue Agency
- 26:57website." Okay, okay. Yeah, but if you
- 27:01run a company, you have to pay F 24 s
- 27:04—I wouldn't say often, but there's
- 27:06always that € 30 F24 to pay here or
- 27:08there, and honestly, paying it directly
- 27:11through the account with a couple of
- 27:13clicks, it's gone without any hassle,
- 27:15it's much, much, much more convenient.
- 27:19Let's go take a look at the Qonto plans
- 27:21. These that you see are the plans for
- 27:24freelancers, which can however also be
- 27:26easily opened by limited companies; in
- 27:28fact, these are probably the
- 27:29recommended plans for micro-companies
- 27:31that don't need a lot of infrastructure
- 27:33and many people working for them. We
- 27:36have, well, the starter plan, an
- 27:37Italian IBAN—the IBAN is always
- 27:39Italian, eh—a virtual-only card, five
- 27:41free transfers per month, and obviously
- 27:43you can still make more if needed, it's
- 27:45not like they won't let you. Electronic
- 27:48invoicing is included, and then,
- 27:50obviously, it goes up starting from the
- 27:52smart plan, which also includes 1.5%
- 27:54remuneration and 5%as a promo for the
- 27:57first two months. Let's look at the
- 28:00specific plans for companies; if you're
- 28:02surprised by the prices, just know that
- 28:04business accounts generally aren't
- 28:06cheap. There's the essential, the
- 28:09business, and the enterprise, which is
- 28:10clearly only if you have a very large
- 28:11company. This one even has five
- 28:14physical cards and 50 virtual cards, so
- 28:17it's designed for those with employees
- 28:19or team members with specific roles,
- 28:21allowing you to grant legal access to
- 28:23the account beyond just the
- 28:24administrator. All of them offer 5%
- 28:28annually for the first 2 months and
- 28:29then 1.5%. I should also mention that
- 28:32professional accounts can also be
- 28:34opened by an SRL and thus function as a
- 28:37real business account. Clearly, F24 tax
- 28:40payments are included in all of them; I
- 28:42wouldn't have even mentioned it if they
- 28:44weren't. So, in general, be wary of
- 28:46business accounts that don't support
- 28:49F24 payments, because otherwise, you'll
- 28:51go crazy. And I remind you, you cannot
- 28:53use your personal account to make
- 28:55business transactions and then
- 28:56reimburse yourself. I mean, yes, in
- 28:58theory you could, but I want to see
- 28:59what happens to your accounting if you
- 29:01get audited; it would be a disaster.
- 29:04However, the account—it's called "
- 29:06Qonto"—and I'll show you, the name is
- 29:09written here. Here it is. Qonto also
- 29:11offers something that, if I had known
- 29:13about it or if it had existed in my
- 29:15time, I definitely would have used it.
- 29:18Open a company with an expert's help,
- 29:20meaning a guided procedure. Okay,
- 29:22request consultation from a dedicated
- 29:24accountant. This wasn't a necessity for
- 29:28me, but as you can see, they handled
- 29:31the process: signing the deed of
- 29:33incorporation, signing the deed online,
- 29:36okay? An appointment with a notary, one
- 29:40to two weeks for document collection,
- 29:42so for 99 plus VAT, besides giving you
- 29:46the business account on promotion for 4
- 29:48months, they also give you, if you want
- 29:50, an accountant and a notary
- 29:52appointment, which is not insignificant
- 29:54. And not only that, they also give you
- 29:58a specific IBAN before the company is
- 30:01incorporated, because the problem is
- 30:03that until you incorporate, you can't
- 30:06have a company IBAN since the company
- 30:09doesn't exist, yet you have to put the
- 30:12share capital somewhere. So, they give
- 30:15you a specific IBAN where you can
- 30:17deposit the share capital, avoiding
- 30:20having to go to the notary with
- 30:22rustling banknotes like I did, before
- 30:24it's moved to the company account. As
- 30:27you can see from the analysis here, the
- 30:32card is a debit card; I’ll tell you,
- 30:34it has always worked perfectly, it goes
- 30:36into Google Wallet without blinking,
- 30:38and if it works with Google Wallet, I
- 30:40imagine it surely works with Apple Pay
- 30:42too. Oh, now I see there are also 10
- 30:47PagoPA payments per month included,
- 30:49even though it's an SRL. It happened to
- 30:52me once that I had to make a PagoPA
- 30:53payment. As I was saying before, they
- 30:57also handle electronic invoicing if you
- 30:59want, so you can have electronic
- 31:01invoicing integrated with the account,
- 31:03which is very convenient; even if you
- 31:05don't make every payment from the
- 31:07account, having it integrated helps you
- 31:09keep your accounting more aligned. I
- 31:12find it quite difficult to keep the
- 31:14accounting aligned every time. So, this
- 31:16is the interface, briefly. Sorry for
- 31:18the calculator in the way, but there
- 31:20was a payment received from a person
- 31:22whose details I didn't want to show. On
- 31:25the other hand, Octopus Electroverse, I
- 31:27don't think anyone will be scandalized
- 31:29if I paid Octopus Electroverse for
- 31:30electric car charging. Here is the
- 31:34classic transaction screen. Well, as
- 31:37usual, I had to use the calculator to
- 31:39cover some names. It allows you to
- 31:42categorize them. Since I don't have
- 31:44invoicing associated, as you can see, I
- 31:46don't categorize them sometimes, though
- 31:48now I'll start categorizing them
- 31:50properly; but if you have invoicing
- 31:52associated, there's a sort of AI that
- 31:54tries to categorize them for you.
- 31:57However, it is very similar to a
- 31:59personal account, with the only
- 32:01precaution that you must always be
- 32:03careful—every single cent that goes
- 32:05out or comes in must be justified; you
- 32:07don't have the same freedom as with a
- 32:09personal account. One particular thing
- 32:12of interest is the customer service. I
- 32:15had to deal with customer service
- 32:16because I had to change the
- 32:18administrator of the SRL, and changing
- 32:19the SRL administrator is impactful for
- 32:21the account because the administrator
- 32:23is the person authorized to manage the
- 32:25account and must go through the whole
- 32:26identification process, etcetera,
- 32:28etcetera, etcetera, questionnaires.
- 32:31Well, I must say that the account's
- 32:34customer service resolved it for me in
- 32:3712–15 hours—not days, hours. So,
- 32:41try changing the account holder of a
- 32:43personal account; that's a hassle, I
- 32:45must say. So they are particularly
- 32:47attentive to the fact that you are
- 32:48running a business and cannot have your
- 32:50account blocked. In the meantime, the
- 32:52account was not blocked, so automatic
- 32:53payments still went through, and the
- 32:55card still worked. However, within 12
- 32:59to 15 hours, customer service—between
- 33:01calls, emails, back and forth...the
- 33:03procedure isn't easy, because I have to
- 33:05provide an extract from the Chamber of
- 33:07Commerce showing the new director,
- 33:09handle the entire onboarding of the new
- 33:11director as the person in charge,
- 33:13essentially the one authorized to move
- 33:15funds, and so on. So it’s a fairly
- 33:18complex procedure, and I must say I
- 33:20didn't expect to get it done. I had
- 33:23deliberately chosen a period when I
- 33:25didn’t have any outgoing payments,
- 33:27only incoming ones, but I didn't expect
- 33:29to resolve it in such a short time. The
- 33:32arrival of the new credit card, too—
- 33:34because the credit card is personal,
- 33:35meaning it doesn't have the company
- 33:36name on it, it has the director's name.
- 33:38Usually, credit cards are like that,
- 33:40and the new credit card arrived in a
- 33:42flash. The virtual one arrived
- 33:43instantly, the physical one arrived a
- 33:45few days later, but I don't really have
- 33:47any use for the physical one anyway. If
- 33:50you intend to open an LLC or if you
- 33:53already have one and want to open a new
- 33:55account, or change accounts, if you're
- 33:58interested, the promo code Coletti X3
- 34:01gives you 3 months free on any plan you
- 34:04choose, so a 3-month free trial on all
- 34:06account plans. So, Coletti X3. It's
- 34:13practically the only account I use. I
- 34:16find it so good, so streamlined, that
- 34:18at the moment, the LLC doesn't need a
- 34:20second account. And now, let’s play a
- 34:24game. In your opinion, what are the
- 34:28most impactful expenses for a micro-LLC
- 34:30that essentially creates nothing
- 34:32physical, meaning it lives in the
- 34:33digital world, obviously? So, think
- 34:37about it. The first one, the first one
- 34:40is the company headquarters. Now,
- 34:42that’s not the case for my micro-LLC
- 34:44because I use grandma's house. Exactly.
- 34:47When you see me with the fake
- 34:49background, this is the real backdrop.
- 34:52As you see, when you see me with the
- 34:54fake background, I’m at the LLC's
- 34:56headquarters. Let’s say it's not
- 35:00strictly mandatory. You could even use
- 35:02your own home; in that case, the cost
- 35:04drops to zero, but otherwise, you would
- 35:05have to pay rent for the LLC's
- 35:07headquarters. And if it's an entirely
- 35:10digital LLC, there is no reason to put
- 35:12it in the city center. I’ve seen,
- 35:15I’ve seen, I’ve seen things. I’ve
- 35:17seen LLCs that even have prestigious
- 35:19offices—yes, prestigious ones—that
- 35:22are located in a closet, and others
- 35:24that you might look into, that are
- 35:26based in a tiny room carved out inside
- 35:28a garage. I’ve seen LLC headquarters
- 35:32of all kinds, so it really depends on
- 35:35what you choose. Watch out, because
- 35:37along with the office, the LLC brings
- 35:39utilities: water, electricity, and gas.
- 35:42This is very unpleasant, I must say,
- 35:44because many suppliers, especially for
- 35:46electricity, don't tell you their rates
- 35:48, while they are extremely transparent
- 35:50with private individuals, telling you,
- 35:51"Join us and pay this specific rate."
- 35:56For business contracts, they stay mum;
- 35:58they don't tell you a thing, they just
- 36:00say, "Call our consultant." So, what is
- 36:03the result? The result is that I pay
- 36:06for the electricity, or rather my mom
- 36:08pays for the company's electricity. I
- 36:11kept the contract I had before that was
- 36:13in my mom's name, I left it as is,
- 36:14meaning my mom is paying and the LLC
- 36:16doesn't reimburse my mom—the
- 36:18accountant said no. The accountant said
- 36:21the contract has to be in the LLC's
- 36:23name, otherwise, nothing doing. I
- 36:25prefer to pay it as an individual, or
- 36:27rather, my mom prefers to pay it as an
- 36:29individual. Just imagine, for the LLC I
- 36:31have, the electricity contract is in my
- 36:33mom's name, and the water contract is
- 36:35also in my mom's name in the end. Yes,
- 36:37the building’s one, I believe. Well,
- 36:39anyway, it’s through the building
- 36:41management, and the internet line is
- 36:43actually in my name. So I pay for the
- 36:45utilities as an individual. Shall I say
- 36:47why? Because as soon as energy or
- 36:50internet service providers smell the
- 36:54business world, poof, their prices
- 36:57skyrocket. They soar or they inflate—
- 37:01both really—because they know you can
- 37:04deduct them, so wham. So, to avoid
- 37:08dealing with consultants—I didn't
- 37:10want to call a consultant who might try
- 37:12to stick me with a terrible rate—I
- 37:13kept my private contract instead. So,
- 37:16that's the business premises with
- 37:18utilities, second expense. The second
- 37:22expense in my case is zero, and at most
- 37:24, I ask the LLC to reimburse the
- 37:26building expenses that are the tenant's
- 37:28responsibility. Second expense: the
- 37:31accountant. For my LLC, I calculated
- 37:34that I pay including VAT, but you have
- 37:36to remove the VAT because for an LLC,
- 37:38VAT is transparent, so it’s as if VAT
- 37:40doesn't exist for the LLC; both the VAT
- 37:42it receives and the VAT it pays, it’s
- 37:44as if it didn't exist, it all comes
- 37:45back. So I pay € 4,680 per year
- 37:48including VAT. The accountant, mind you
- 37:51, does not issue the invoices. My
- 37:52accountant doesn't do the, or rather in
- 37:55my case, doesn't issue the invoices,
- 37:57because he taught me how to issue
- 37:59invoices, which is easy for Italian
- 38:01invoices; it gets much more complex for
- 38:03invoices involving foreign countries,
- 38:05which we will see later. He taught me
- 38:08how to do invoices, so I don't burden
- 38:10him with that task, unlike many
- 38:12entrepreneurs who have their accountant
- 38:14do their invoices. And so those 4180
- 38:17don't include the invoices, but it does
- 38:19include the balance sheet; I mean, he
- 38:20does the balance sheet for me, also
- 38:22because honestly, if I had to do the
- 38:23balance sheet, I would do it in a
- 38:25completely different way and probably
- 38:26totally against the law. Third. Third
- 38:30expense in terms of in terms of
- 38:34heaviness, you'll never guess it. Are
- 38:37you ready? No, it's not the stamping of
- 38:39the accounting books, that comes later,
- 38:41it's the RAI license fee. Yes, indeed,
- 38:45I pay 407.35 plus any extra charges,
- 38:51because every now and then they make me
- 38:53pay it with bizarre RAI fee methods,
- 38:54because obviously in my company, me and
- 38:56all my employees are there with the
- 38:58television on watching "Deal or No Deal
- 39:00" every single evening. I mean, fairly
- 39:03speaking, let's say that I pay those
- 39:05€ 407.35 very willingly for NOS, but
- 39:08I don't pay them willingly at all for "
- 39:10Deal or No Deal." Anyway, I'm super
- 39:13poisoned against that game because
- 39:14it’s really the proof that many
- 39:16people don't understand a damn thing
- 39:18about statistics. Um now uh why do I
- 39:22pay € 407? Even Chat GPT told me, it
- 39:25said, "Why do you pay € 407 when €
- 39:27200 is expected for offices?" I don't
- 39:30know. RAI asked me for this. I suffer
- 39:33eh passively eh when you are an
- 39:35entrepreneur very often you passively
- 39:37suffer these impositions from maybe
- 39:39public bodies because uh filing an
- 39:41appeal or fighting costs you much more
- 39:44than just paying, because in terms of
- 39:46lost work and therefore lost money.
- 39:49Anyway, I promise that soon I will find
- 39:51out why I am not just paying € 200.
- 39:54Forget about the € 100 for private
- 39:56individuals. Companies pay more. Okay,
- 39:59third expense, we already anticipated
- 40:01it, the terrible stamping of accounting
- 40:03books that must be repaid every year.
- 40:05Did you think—would you like to pay
- 40:06for the stamping of accounting books
- 40:08every year? Eh, once a year, only once.
- 40:11No, no, the notary every year. The
- 40:14notary. This time though, I didn't—
- 40:17this year I didn't pay the notary, I
- 40:19only paid 309.87 and € 16 to get the
- 40:22100 pages stamped. I don't know, maybe
- 40:25the accountant forgot to go to the
- 40:27notary to do it. Okay, fine. Then I pay
- 40:30€ 78 to the labor consultant for each
- 40:34payslip. You will say, who is the labor
- 40:37consultant? And that is exactly the
- 40:39same thing I said to the accountant
- 40:40when he told me, "You need to find a
- 40:41labor consultant," and I said, "But why
- 40:42, excuse me, can't you do everything
- 40:44yourself?" He tells me, "No, in Italy
- 40:47the laws governing the world of work
- 40:49are so complex that the accountant
- 40:51knows them a bit, but not in detail."
- 40:56So you need to turn to another
- 40:57professional, who I must say in my case
- 40:58is very professional because, I mean,
- 41:00every time I ask him questions, he
- 41:01answers me precisely, relevantly, and
- 41:03immediately. Even though he is far away
- 41:07from me, it's really immediate, and I
- 41:09must say I pay him very willingly, but
- 41:11I pay € 78 in my case for every
- 41:12payslip. So, every time I issue a
- 41:16payslip, I pay € 78 just to process
- 41:18the payslip. Now, if you consider that
- 41:21administrator compensation payslips are
- 41:23so simple that maybe I could even do
- 41:25them myself. Maybe, eh, I looked into
- 41:27it. But, when I used to see my own
- 41:29employee payslips, let me tell you:
- 41:30forget € 78! I would pay not to have
- 41:33to do that payslip, because it's
- 41:34incredibly complicated and has so many
- 41:35completely bizarre line items. Well,
- 41:38but the main problem with not using a
- 41:40labor consultant is that if a law
- 41:42changes, you're screwed, because
- 41:44theoretically you could do the payslip
- 41:46yourself, but one small rule change is
- 41:48enough for you to get the payslips
- 41:50wrong, and that's a headache. So, am I
- 41:53paying a lot? Yes, I pay a lot because
- 41:56in reality I issue very few payslips,
- 41:58because for example this year the
- 42:00fantastic company administrator will be
- 42:03paid only once in December to save on
- 42:05those € 78, or perhaps twice, in
- 42:08October and December. Come on, let's
- 42:10see if he’s behaved well, we can pay
- 42:11him in October too. There is no
- 42:13obligation to pay the administrator
- 42:15regularly, unless they are the ones
- 42:17complaining, but since I am the
- 42:18administrator, he doesn't complain. So
- 42:21you have to pay the labor consultant,
- 42:23and it depends on how many payslips you
- 42:24do. Clearly, if instead of one a year
- 42:27you do, eh, 170 a year because you have
- 42:29many employees, they won't charge you
- 42:30€ 78; they’ll ask for much less in
- 42:32that case. In my case, the € 78 also
- 42:35includes the consultation where I
- 42:37pester him by asking how fringe
- 42:39benefits work and things like that.
- 42:42After that, I pay € 127 for the
- 42:44financial statement filing, then I pay
- 42:47the bank commissions you saw earlier,
- 42:50of course, I pay € 120 for the
- 42:52Chamber of Commerce registration, we
- 42:55pay, we pay. Ah, then we pay for
- 42:58electronic invoicing and the PEC email.
- 42:59Oh well, the price went up, I see. Ah,
- 43:01no, € 12 because there's both my PEC
- 43:03and the company's, but oh well, I would
- 43:05have my own anyway. So, and electronic
- 43:07invoicing, which in my case is about
- 43:09€ 36 a year, so relatively little. I
- 43:12have it, uh, not detached from from the
- 43:16account, and if I could go back, I
- 43:18would probably make it integrated into
- 43:19the account. These are the expenses to
- 43:22keep an SRL (LLC) alive. So, apart from
- 43:25company-related expenses, let's figure
- 43:28that to keep an SRL alive you should
- 43:30budget € 500, for a micro SRL of this
- 43:32type. € 500 including VAT, uh, then
- 43:36that VAT comes back to you. Well,
- 43:39honestly, there's no VAT on the Rai
- 43:40license fee and also no VAT on many tax
- 43:41stamps, but for the accountant, for
- 43:42example, there is VAT. So count on
- 43:44about € 5,500 plus any expenses
- 43:47related to the company headquarters,
- 43:49plus any account fees which are quite
- 43:51limited. So if you're tight-fisted, and
- 43:55your office is at home, you can get by
- 43:57with € 5,500. It's definitely more,
- 43:59uh, in my opinion, infinitely more
- 44:01compared to a flat-rate VAT scheme, and
- 44:03definitely more than a regular VAT
- 44:05scheme, probably. Friends with a
- 44:06regular VAT number, write to me about
- 44:08how I keep the accounts. I wouldn't be
- 44:11required to keep accounts because the
- 44:12accountant does it. Exactly, the
- 44:14accountant handles it all. The problem
- 44:16is that if everything went through an
- 44:18invoice, then I tell you, I wouldn't
- 44:20keep it because the electronic
- 44:21invoicing software would handle the
- 44:23accounting. The problem is that in
- 44:25Italy not everything goes through an
- 44:26invoice. For example, the Rai license
- 44:28fee doesn't go through an invoice.
- 44:30Thank goodness that since last year it
- 44:31can be paid by bank transfer because
- 44:33before I went crazy paying it, and the
- 44:35stamping of accounting books doesn't
- 44:36involve an invoice at all. So the
- 44:39problem is that not everything goes
- 44:41through an invoice; some things use
- 44:43other payment systems, so not
- 44:46everything goes through a bank transfer
- 44:48and/or credit card. So I also keep my
- 44:51own accounting with an Excel sheet. I
- 44:53keep the accounts on a cash basis. I
- 44:56know that 17 accountants just died at
- 44:58this statement of mine. Exactly. The
- 45:00company must keep accounts on an
- 45:02accrual basis, but I keep it on a cash
- 45:03basis because I care about knowing
- 45:05what's in the till. That's what
- 45:07interests me, and above all, I keep the
- 45:09accounts because I want to make
- 45:10statistics, meaning I want to see how
- 45:11much money I spent. The image started,
- 45:15how much money I spent on this, how
- 45:16much money I spend on that, how much on
- 45:18bureaucracy, how much here. I'll tell
- 45:20you about them at the end. At the end I
- 45:21will also give you the exact little
- 45:23numbers and even how much I earned.
- 45:25I'll tell you, yes, yes, I'll tell you
- 45:26how much I earned. And how do I keep it
- 45:28? I keep it with a simple Excel sheet
- 45:30that has the following fields. Date,
- 45:32it's not, it's not trivial. Amount, VAT
- 45:35. I enter the amount including VAT, uh.
- 45:38VAT. Then if it's IRES deductible. Not
- 45:42everything is IRES deductible. If it's
- 45:44IRAP deductible. Not everything is IRAP
- 45:46deductible. And IRAP deductibility is
- 45:48different from IRES deductibility. Nice
- 45:51, right? If it's VAT deductible,
- 45:53meaning if the VAT can be reclaimed;
- 45:55for example, if you buy something at
- 45:58the supermarket for the company, pay
- 46:00with the company card, and get a
- 46:02receipt, you cannot recover the VAT on
- 46:04that receipt, so not all VAT is
- 46:06deductible. Madness, madness, madness.
- 46:09All right? Okay. And then who I paid or
- 46:12from whom I received money. I'm telling
- 46:15you the actual fields in my Excel
- 46:16sheets; I won't show them to you
- 46:17because otherwise other people's
- 46:18personal data would pop up. How I paid
- 46:21or received the money, whether from the
- 46:23account, card, in cash, or in chickens
- 46:26and capons, okay? Whether I was given
- 46:30an invoice, a receipt, an F24 form, or
- 46:33some other bizarre means. Okay. Then a
- 46:37few fields for the category,
- 46:39subcategory, type, and so on. Then a
- 46:43nice long field where you put the
- 46:45reason why you did that thing, and
- 46:48finally an identifier, an ID. What is
- 46:52that ID for? It's needed because when
- 46:55the accountant emails me saying, "
- 46:57Listen, we're missing the ID and proof
- 46:59for expense number 1374." I immediately
- 47:02look up 1374 in my Excel sheet, which I
- 47:04give her every month, and I see, "Oh,
- 47:07it was the ice cream I bought while on
- 47:09a business trip." Well yes, no, just
- 47:13kidding. And so I send her the ice
- 47:16cream receipt. So, having an ID for
- 47:19every line of expense and income makes
- 47:22it much, much easier to talk to the
- 47:25accountant who asks me, or rather, who
- 47:28tells me: "Why did you make expense
- 47:31number 1222?" instead of saying "Why
- 47:35did you make the expense of € 44.13
- 47:37on this and that date?" she gives me
- 47:39the ID and I've solved it. There. And
- 47:42by having several columns to categorize
- 47:44expenses, it also becomes easy for me
- 47:46to run statistics later. I mean, I want
- 47:49to see statistics on how much making
- 47:51videos earns me, how much it costs me
- 47:53to publish shorts instead, how much of
- 47:55this, how much I pay so-and-so, how
- 47:56much I pay someone else, it becomes
- 47:58much, much simpler. Everything is
- 48:02reconciled monthly by hand by me. I
- 48:06mean, every month, at the end of every
- 48:08month, I check my account, see what the
- 48:10balance is—and by the way, damn
- 48:12everyone who makes deposits on the
- 48:14first of the month because they throw
- 48:16off my balance and I have to...okay, I
- 48:18see what the balance is, and the
- 48:19balance on my Excel sheets has to match
- 48:21. I must say, at the beginning it was a
- 48:25nightmare; now I've gotten good at it,
- 48:27but thanks to this, to this check, I
- 48:29obviously discovered a few errors in my
- 48:31accounting. Okay, now I've gotten good,
- 48:35so usually I’m off by just one
- 48:36expense which I find right away, so
- 48:39I've learned a few tricks; every end of
- 48:41the month I reconcile my accounting
- 48:43with what’s actually in the account
- 48:45and what we really have in the cash box
- 48:47. There’s only 120 euros left in cash
- 48:49now out of the 4,000. And I'm all set.
- 48:54I send everything to the accountant:
- 48:56invoices, summary Excel sheets,
- 48:58receipts for all non-invoiced expenses,
- 49:01and that's it. That’s how accounting
- 49:03management works. I have to say it
- 49:06takes some time, yeah, but we’ll see
- 49:08now that the stuff that takes me the
- 49:10most time isn't this, isn't the
- 49:12accounting management itself, but those
- 49:14cursed self-invoices—damn whoever
- 49:15invented them. But I was almost about
- 49:20to forget the most important Excel
- 49:23sheet of all when you manage an LLC, or
- 49:26even a sole proprietorship. The "Who
- 49:30Needs to Pay Me" sheet. XLSX, an
- 49:35essential sheet. In my naivety, the
- 49:40first job I did, I asked for payment
- 49:42and they said, "Eh, we usually pay at
- 49:45two months." I say, "What do you mean,
- 49:49two months?""Ah, two months from the
- 49:52end of the month in which you send the
- 49:54invoice." I say, but if I paid my
- 49:57plumber with these timelines, no way
- 49:59would he ever come back. So, get it
- 50:02into your head right away that this
- 50:05Excel sheet is fundamental. I’ll show
- 50:07you an example here of the one I use.
- 50:10Here is the "Who Needs to Pay Me" sheet
- 50:12. XLSX. The numbers are made up, yeah,
- 50:15I’ll fix them for you in a second.
- 50:18Here is what we put in this nice sheet.
- 50:20First, we put who the client is, then
- 50:25the type of work. This is mostly used
- 50:28to see how much mentions earn me, how
- 50:30much videos earn me, how much video
- 50:32courses earn me, how much this earns me
- 50:34, how much that earns me. Then I
- 50:38recommend, well, obviously the money
- 50:40that needs to be paid, if there is VAT
- 50:43involved, if an agency is involved, a
- 50:45detailed, detailed description. Then
- 50:48other columns always made to categorize
- 50:52the, the, the type of work that you
- 50:54need to extract statistics. Then,
- 50:57basically, the fundamental columns are
- 51:00the dates. At first, I just used true/
- 51:03false, but dates are actually essential
- 51:06for when you proposed the work, so when
- 51:08you sent the quote. This is critical
- 51:12because people ignore you for two years
- 51:14, then reply saying, "Fine, I accept
- 51:15the quote," and you say, "But the quote
- 51:17is from two years ago.""No, you sent it
- 51:20to me a month ago." And you're like, "
- 51:22Haha, no, it's from 1125." They're
- 51:25delusional. Here is when the quote was
- 51:28accepted, this is also important; you
- 51:31have no idea, I have stuff that was
- 51:33accepted sitting there for a year for
- 51:35no reason. I regret only having a
- 51:37single "done" column. If I were to redo
- 51:41it now, or rather, I'll likely update
- 51:43it with two columns for when the work
- 51:45was due and when it was actually done.
- 51:49Okay. Then when you invoiced it, when
- 51:52the payment was due, that is, by when
- 51:55it had to be paid; usually, if there's
- 51:58no agreement, I give 30 days and I
- 52:01consider that generous. Hey, dear
- 52:04Italian entrepreneurs who pay at 90
- 52:07days. By the way, I'd like my editor to
- 52:11leave a comment here saying how long it
- 52:14takes me to pay him from the company
- 52:16account when he sends me an invoice. I
- 52:21mean, he sends me the invoice Saturday
- 52:23night at 9 PM and I'm at the club at 11
- 52:26PM, ping, instant transfer, gone, paid
- 52:29by midnight, and then when you were
- 52:31finally paid. This column that shows
- 52:35the timing is indispensable. Well, in
- 52:37this case, I set it as the difference
- 52:39between paid and invoiced. If you want,
- 52:41you could put the difference between
- 52:43paid and done or between paid and due
- 52:44date; it's up to you. And then other
- 52:47columns that I think are very useful.
- 52:49This one here is essential to see who
- 52:51is a snail and maybe who not to work
- 52:53with anymore, eh, or who to charge more
- 52:57money as a penalty for being a snail.
- 53:00And other essential columns are these.
- 53:02This is how much you collected, gross
- 53:04of VAT. In this case, I put, for
- 53:06example, how much it cost me? Because
- 53:09it might have cost me something. The
- 53:12editor for the video and, you know,
- 53:13what I had to—here, and how many
- 53:14hours did I spend on this? Inclusive.
- 53:18Inclusive of the hours spent on those
- 53:21useless calls we had. The useless calls
- 53:24. Right, inclusive of that. And here,
- 53:27the division of income minus costs
- 53:29divided by hours, which shows that some
- 53:32jobs pay a lot and others pay very
- 53:34little per hour worked. So, as you can
- 53:39see, this Excel sheet—no, I won't
- 53:41make it available to you, make your own
- 53:43—it highlights automatically; for
- 53:45example, you see, if I remove it, it
- 53:47turns green for items that have been
- 53:49paid, and red for things that are
- 53:50already past due. The 15th of the 9th
- 53:54means it's expired—I'm recording on
- 53:56the 29th of the 9 th—yellow for
- 53:58things not yet due, and light blue for
- 54:01things I still have to do. This one: a
- 54:05date effectively in the future, and
- 54:08dark blue for things I still have to do
- 54:10that are urgent—meaning they are
- 54:12expiring—and white for things that
- 54:15haven't actually been accepted yet. And
- 54:20a colleague of mine—I won't tell you
- 54:22who, but I think you can easily guess
- 54:25—a colleague has a very similar Excel
- 54:27sheet to which he had to add a black
- 54:29row for those intermediaries that don't
- 54:32pay. They didn't just delay, they
- 54:36actually told him, "Look, we're not
- 54:38paying you." So, the black row for
- 54:40being scammed. Well, fortunately, with
- 54:43my sponsors, I haven't had to add a
- 54:45black row. It is interesting to note
- 54:48that the payment time is totally
- 54:50independent of who the payer is. I mean
- 54:53, I had, just throwing it out there, a
- 54:55foreign cryptocurrency exchange that I
- 54:57would have expected to pay at 90 days,
- 54:59but they paid me the day before—I
- 55:01mean, the day before I even did the
- 55:03work, they had already paid me. I said,
- 55:06"How?" Oh well, they paid me the day
- 55:07before. I've had various banks or
- 55:10financial intermediaries that paid me
- 55:12within 7 days, which I consider
- 55:14exceptional. I've had others that paid
- 55:19me at 60 days. I had an event planning
- 55:25agency that paid me like 150 days later
- 55:29, so 5 months later. They probably
- 55:33forgot, but damn it. And after various
- 55:36reminders. So, it's totally—I've
- 55:38learned that it doesn't depend on the
- 55:40type. It's not like there are certain
- 55:41types, like big companies pay you
- 55:43sooner than small ones, no. No. It
- 55:47depends a lot on—usually the small
- 55:49ones tend to pay you sooner, but
- 55:50sometimes even they insist on having
- 55:52payment at 45 days and things like that
- 55:55. So, payment times don't depend on
- 55:58anything. I haven't derived any general
- 56:01rule at all. Divination, necromancy,
- 56:12clairvoyance, spells. Here are the
- 56:15invoices. No, the "fatture"(invoices/
- 56:20spells) we are talking about are not
- 56:22the spells a wizard casts on you, but
- 56:25the invoices you will necessarily have
- 56:27to issue, because if you have a micro
- 56:30LLC, you are the one issuing the
- 56:32invoices. Attention, in Italy we have
- 56:36an electronic invoicing system that I
- 56:38believe is light years, and I know I'll
- 56:40get a lot of criticism for this
- 56:41statement, but light years ahead of
- 56:43that of other countries. In other
- 56:46countries, the paper system often still
- 56:48prevails, meaning the sheet of paper
- 56:50that I could even make myself. I
- 56:52remember once I received an invoice
- 56:54from Canva and, being from Canva, it
- 56:56had a Canva-style decoration on the
- 56:58border, I mean, it had little leaves. I
- 57:01think, if I present this stuff to the
- 57:03Revenue Agency, they'll tell me it's
- 57:05fake, that I made it myself on Canva.
- 57:07Well, these are the invoices that
- 57:08circulate in some countries. Eh, in
- 57:10Italy there is the electronic invoice.
- 57:11How does it work? Basically, you have
- 57:14to create an XML, which you obviously
- 57:16create easily with a specific interface
- 57:17, so you fill in the fields and then
- 57:19the interface creates the XML. This XML
- 57:22that you create is the invoice, so the
- 57:24invoice you see, the one on the sheet
- 57:26of paper, is not the real invoice. The
- 57:28real invoice is the XML that lies
- 57:29behind it. This XML is sent to a system
- 57:33called the Exchange System, or SDI.
- 57:38Clearly, it is sent only by certain
- 57:40authorized providers that can interact
- 57:42with it and then it is delivered to the
- 57:43other party. If the other party is
- 57:46Italian, it is delivered from above,
- 57:48and usually, when you send an invoice,
- 57:50you are requesting payment, so when you
- 57:52send the invoice to someone else, you
- 57:54must also indicate who their
- 57:55intermediary is, their invoice manager.
- 57:58So you indicate the VAT number, the
- 58:00counterparty's invoice manager, all the
- 58:02data, the money you're asking for, etc.
- 58:04, etc., etc., and the invoice arrives
- 58:06from above directly in electronic
- 58:08format. If you have to send invoices to
- 58:11my company, please do not send them to
- 58:12me in PDF, I can't do anything with
- 58:14them at all. As soon as I see the
- 58:17invoice arrive, if it's legitimate, I
- 58:18pay it, I check it, so don't send me
- 58:20random invoices. If it is not
- 58:23legitimate, I won't pay it. There you
- 58:26go, so don't worry, it all works, it
- 58:29works perfectly, we're all set. And so,
- 58:32if the invoice is intended for a
- 58:34private individual, it's not certain
- 58:36that the individual has an electronic
- 58:38invoicing system, so you can, if you
- 58:41want, indicate their certified email
- 58:43address (PEC) and they receive a PEC.
- 58:46If you don't indicate anything, if the
- 58:48private individual has gone into the
- 58:50Revenue Agency's tax portal and
- 58:52activated the receipt and viewing of
- 58:54invoices...I think, I did it many years
- 58:56ago, I fiddled with it a bit, I went
- 58:58around the tax portal until I...not
- 59:00even the tax portal, sorry, the invoice
- 59:02management system. All the invoices
- 59:05they receive are found there. Very
- 59:06convenient for private individuals too.
- 59:09If only it were that simple. But no, of
- 59:13course not. So, let's start with these.
- 59:17These are standard invoices. Very well.
- 59:20Then, there's the split payment. Damn
- 59:25whoever invented the split payment. If
- 59:29you invoice certain companies with
- 59:31specific characteristics, they go under
- 59:34split payment. This means you don't
- 59:36have to show the VAT on the invoice.
- 59:38You issue a VAT-exempt invoice and the
- 59:41other company will take care of paying
- 59:43the VAT to the State. I mean, it's fine
- 59:49, but no, come on, just let me do them
- 59:52all the same. I think it's public
- 59:56companies plus others, so for certain
- 59:58firms you do this bizarre thing—it
- 1:00:00took me a while, the first time they
- 1:00:02told me I didn't understand what they
- 1:00:04meant or why the invoice was sent
- 1:00:05without VAT. Very well. Ok. Then if you
- 1:00:13invoice a foreign company—no, not a
- 1:00:16private individual, an individual is an
- 1:00:18end consumer so you have to charge it,
- 1:00:21but for a foreign company, you don't
- 1:00:23apply VAT. That's what I've understood.
- 1:00:27Luckily, I never invoice abroad. I
- 1:00:31receive invoices from abroad, but I
- 1:00:33never invoice abroad—you don't have
- 1:00:35to apply VAT, you send them an
- 1:00:37electronic invoice, but the one abroad
- 1:00:39will want the PDF because to them the
- 1:00:41XML means nothing. Okay? Big, big
- 1:00:45problem when you get an invoice from
- 1:00:50abroad. When they send you an invoice
- 1:00:52from abroad, two things can happen. The
- 1:00:56first thing, which I affectionately
- 1:00:58call getting "receipted," means that
- 1:01:00abroad they treated you like a consumer
- 1:01:02and not a business, so they applied the
- 1:01:04VAT to you. And you just have to take
- 1:01:08it. It’s like they gave you a simple
- 1:01:11receipt, so you just put it away. You
- 1:01:13file it away with the invoice as if it
- 1:01:15were a receipt. End of story, but you
- 1:01:18paid the VAT for nothing. When instead
- 1:01:23they send you a real invoice from
- 1:01:25abroad—and you'll say, sorry, an
- 1:01:27invoice without VAT—and you know it's
- 1:01:29an invoice because it has no VAT and it
- 1:01:32says "invoice" instead of something
- 1:01:34else, like "receipt," then the terrible
- 1:01:40self-billing kicks in. You get this
- 1:01:43invoice without VAT, but the Italian
- 1:01:45state wants to see the VAT somehow. So
- 1:01:48you have to issue an invoice to
- 1:01:50yourself for that amount plus VAT.
- 1:01:53Careful, you issue an invoice to
- 1:01:55yourself for that amount plus VAT as if
- 1:01:57the other party had issued it, and you
- 1:01:59have an incoming invoice and an
- 1:02:01outgoing invoice. These two offset the
- 1:02:03VAT. I would really like to know who
- 1:02:05invented this mechanism, because I've
- 1:02:07had it explained to me like fifteen
- 1:02:08times and I still struggle to
- 1:02:10understand it. I only know the steps I
- 1:02:11have to take. By the way, these cursed
- 1:02:14self-invoices have three different
- 1:02:15codes depending on whether it's a
- 1:02:17purchase of a service, a purchase of a
- 1:02:19good that was outside the Union, or a
- 1:02:20purchase from outside the national
- 1:02:22territory—I don't remember, I think
- 1:02:24the national territory—and the
- 1:02:25purchase of a good that was already in
- 1:02:27the national territory. Now, imagine
- 1:02:30when I buy from Amazon. If I buy from
- 1:02:32Amazon, if Amazon sells it to me,
- 1:02:34problem solved. Amazon Italy sells it
- 1:02:36to me, an Italian invoice. However, if
- 1:02:38an alternative shop sells it to me, I
- 1:02:40have no idea where the hell this shop
- 1:02:42is. Yes, Amazon puts up a notice, but
- 1:02:45half the time the notice is false. I
- 1:02:47mean, the notice is there, but it's not
- 1:02:48actually the case. I have no idea where
- 1:02:51the hell this shop is. I only find out
- 1:02:53later that the shop was Shun Shing Bing
- 1:02:55Bong Bing, and I'm not making up names.
- 1:02:57Actually, look, I'll pull out one of
- 1:02:59these shop names for you, that's why I
- 1:03:01don't want to be accused. Then, so on
- 1:03:0408/27/2026, I issued a self-invoice to
- 1:03:09Shen, Zen, Sid Le Le Xing. Shu Yuxangoi
- 1:03:15. with its headquarters at an address
- 1:03:22that doesn't exist, and I fear it's
- 1:03:23part of the name, but the name was
- 1:03:25written all as one word. Who knows,
- 1:03:28Ashenzen. Okay, there. And
- 1:03:32unfortunately, precisely, if Shen Shin
- 1:03:34Shen Shin Shin sends me merchandise and
- 1:03:36it arrives in one day, was this
- 1:03:38merchandise in Italy or abroad? You see
- 1:03:41, it arrived in one day, it was in
- 1:03:42Italy. Good. If it arrives in two days,
- 1:03:44it could have been in Austria for all I
- 1:03:46know; in Austria, it arrives here in
- 1:03:48two days, so I even have to make up
- 1:03:50whether it's national territory or not.
- 1:03:52So, as I was saying before, the real,
- 1:03:54the real nightmare isn't keeping the
- 1:03:56accounts. The real nightmare for me is
- 1:03:59these cursed self-invoices; a plague
- 1:04:01take whoever invented them, because
- 1:04:03every time I make a payment abroad—
- 1:04:05and I make a lot, because there's
- 1:04:07Streamyard, there's Canva, there's
- 1:04:09Supabase, there's, there's Anthropic—
- 1:04:11I really have so many. If I can, I
- 1:04:14always make the annual payment, even
- 1:04:16though it costs me less, but even if it
- 1:04:18cost me more I would do it, but often I
- 1:04:20can't do it, I have to make the payment
- 1:04:22there's VATS. All of these are
- 1:04:26deliveries, and every time I buy from
- 1:04:28Shenzhen Delx on Amazon, I find this
- 1:04:31bizarre thing; there are these shops
- 1:04:34with long Chinese names that have an
- 1:04:37Italian VAT number, yet they invoice
- 1:04:40you without VAT. I mean, they have an
- 1:04:43Italian VAT number, but they bill me as
- 1:04:45if they were abroad, the name is
- 1:04:47Chinese, and the registered office is
- 1:04:49abroad. I don't know, even my
- 1:04:51accountant was puzzled. Um, so I'll
- 1:04:54confess that for all the small things,
- 1:04:56if I see the shop is Chinese, I'm sorry
- 1:04:58, I stopped buying them as a company, I
- 1:05:00buy them as a private individual. I
- 1:05:04mean, I'm sorry, I actually still buy
- 1:05:07them, but as a private citizen I'd
- 1:05:09rather use my own money because I have
- 1:05:11to file a self-invoice for 5 euros,
- 1:05:13which means you have to fill in the
- 1:05:15data, send the invoice, save it as XML,
- 1:05:17and wait for the reply. Okay? So for me
- 1:05:22, the real plague of keeping accounts
- 1:05:24is self-invoicing. I do quite a few of
- 1:05:27them; let's see how many self-invoices
- 1:05:29I actually do. It's easy to check
- 1:05:31because I just need to look at my
- 1:05:33invoicing software to see how many
- 1:05:34invoices I've issued to myself. Seven
- 1:05:37last month, 7 last month—that's one
- 1:05:39every 4 days, come on. I mean, consider
- 1:05:42that this is a micro-business. In the
- 1:05:43last month, I had issued 30 invoices in
- 1:05:46total. That, however, excludes the
- 1:05:48invoices for "Tutto in Regola." For "
- 1:05:50Tutto in Regola," we use a different
- 1:05:52invoicing service. It's not mandatory
- 1:05:54to have only one, you know? Many are
- 1:05:56convinced that you can only have one,
- 1:05:57right? You can have as many invoicing
- 1:05:59services as you want with a different
- 1:06:01recipient code. So we use another
- 1:06:04invoicing service, and since we have a
- 1:06:06lot of transactions there, in peak
- 1:06:08months we easily exceed 200 invoices.
- 1:06:12That one generates invoices
- 1:06:13automatically. Deo Gratias, good old
- 1:06:16Simone set up an invoicing system. We
- 1:06:19had a few misunderstandings at the
- 1:06:21beginning because we were calculating
- 1:06:23the discount wrong, because anyone who
- 1:06:25does invoicing in Italy realizes that
- 1:06:27if you start from the taxable amount
- 1:06:30and add the VAT, you're fine. But if
- 1:06:32you are targeting consumers, you
- 1:06:34usually have to set a round price,
- 1:06:36already including VAT, and you can't
- 1:06:39always work backward with the right
- 1:06:41rounding. Alright? Anyway, there is an
- 1:06:43automatic system, and it generates the
- 1:06:45invoices automatically via API. And
- 1:06:49that works really smoothly. I must say
- 1:06:51that for 6 months now, we haven't had
- 1:06:53any issues or various snags with those
- 1:06:56invoices. It rarely happens that I have
- 1:06:58to sit down and make an invoice or a
- 1:07:00credit note by hand. I remind you that
- 1:07:03a credit note in Italy is an "
- 1:07:05anti-invoice," so you cancel an invoice
- 1:07:07by using a credit note. It gets a bit
- 1:07:11weirder when you have to cancel a
- 1:07:13self-billed invoice. There, a credit
- 1:07:17note doesn't exist; you have to create
- 1:07:19a bizarre self-billed invoice with
- 1:07:21negative amounts. All right. Okay. And
- 1:07:25now comes the juiciest part. Five
- 1:07:28months after I opened my LLC, I got a
- 1:07:32visit from the Financial Guard. Ta-da!
- 1:07:36Panic, I tell you, panic. How did it
- 1:07:38happen? First of all, it was the middle
- 1:07:40of August. In Bolzano, we work—dear
- 1:07:43Milanese friends, in Bolzano we work in
- 1:07:45August. The Financial Guard works too,
- 1:07:47and they assume they'll find you at
- 1:07:48your office. They arrived directly at
- 1:07:50my office and, obviously, didn't find
- 1:07:52anyone—not because it was August, but
- 1:07:53because by pure chance I wasn't there
- 1:07:55that day. So the Financial Guard
- 1:07:57arrived directly at the office and
- 1:07:59didn't find anyone. Since they didn't
- 1:08:02find anyone, they sent a certified
- 1:08:05email to the administrator and phoned
- 1:08:07the accountant. The accountant sent
- 1:08:10them all the invoices, VAT declarations
- 1:08:12, yadda yadda, this and that—acronyms
- 1:08:14I had never even heard of that they
- 1:08:16were asking for. As for me, I went to
- 1:08:19their office in person, since it was
- 1:08:21faster for me to just go there and pay
- 1:08:23my respects to the Financial Guard to
- 1:08:25explain things. I explained how the
- 1:08:29company works, I explained what the
- 1:08:30revenue sources are, I...well, they
- 1:08:32were extremely polite; I’m not joking
- 1:08:34, I’m not kidding, they were truly
- 1:08:36very kind. They explained in detail why
- 1:08:40they did the audit, and they said they
- 1:08:42audit new businesses, and although they
- 1:08:44didn't tell me, I think they did it
- 1:08:46because it was a strange business—
- 1:08:48that is, a company with zero employees
- 1:08:50where it’s not clear where the money
- 1:08:52comes from. Besides, the name didn't
- 1:08:56sound like a media company or a
- 1:08:57marketing agency, either. And
- 1:09:00essentially, the audit was meant to
- 1:09:03prevent people from creating fake LLCs.
- 1:09:06At which point I wondered, with all the
- 1:09:08hassle of creating an LLC, the costs,
- 1:09:10and the scams you're exposed to—the
- 1:09:12scam attempts you're exposed to—there
- 1:09:14are actually people who create fake
- 1:09:16ones, okay. Anyway, they then told me
- 1:09:18they still had to come to my office. So
- 1:09:21, they arrived at the office, I showed
- 1:09:22them around: "Look, here is the gear
- 1:09:24for live streams, here is this, that,
- 1:09:25and the other." You see? A glass of
- 1:09:28water—they didn't even want a glass
- 1:09:30of water—they signed the report, and
- 1:09:32that was it, the end. So, a whole lot
- 1:09:35of nothing to be afraid of. Because you
- 1:09:37get a little scared when the Financial
- 1:09:39Police call you—who knows? Since I
- 1:09:41was used to it, for those who saw my
- 1:09:43old video that I'll link here, the old
- 1:09:45video about the studio apartment in the
- 1:09:47historic center, I’ve been afraid
- 1:09:49ever since the Carabinieri called me,
- 1:09:51that’s it. And now let's see how to
- 1:09:54get money out of an SRL, because the
- 1:09:56SRL, as I said before, is the natural
- 1:09:58mechanism for taking money out: it’s
- 1:10:00paying dividends. The shareholders '
- 1:10:03meeting—which in reality is just a
- 1:10:05few people if you're a micro-SRL, or
- 1:10:07actually just you—decides to meet and
- 1:10:08decides to pay dividends. The dividends
- 1:10:12you can pay aren't unlimited, you know.
- 1:10:14For example, there are certain
- 1:10:15requirements; well, you can certainly
- 1:10:17take 80%of the profit without issues,
- 1:10:19but it’s not a given that you can go
- 1:10:21overboard. And it decides to pay
- 1:10:26dividends, but that is subject to a 26%
- 1:10:28tax, exactly the same one we pay on
- 1:10:30financial income and financial
- 1:10:32dividends. So, the dividend is the
- 1:10:35standard way. Consider that you have
- 1:10:38already paid IRES on the dividend, so
- 1:10:43you’ve already paid 24%. After that,
- 1:10:48you're hit with another 26%, right? It
- 1:10:51doesn't add up to 50%, it's a bit less
- 1:10:53because the 26%is only on what's
- 1:10:55remaining, so in the end, to take money
- 1:10:58out of an SRL as dividends, you’re
- 1:11:00looking at over 43%in taxes, sorry,
- 1:11:02which is usually a lot. Are there other
- 1:11:05ways to get money out of the SRL? Yes,
- 1:11:07but they are very limited, don't think
- 1:11:09you'll be pulling out millions. Method
- 1:11:11number one is the administrator's
- 1:11:12compensation. The administrator's
- 1:11:14compensation is when the administrator
- 1:11:16pays themselves a fee. This, of course,
- 1:11:18only works for the administrator. The
- 1:11:20administrator's compensation is subject
- 1:11:23to INPS and subject to IRPEF. The INPS
- 1:11:29tax is about 26%. But it's not money
- 1:11:36thrown away. Yes, I understand that for
- 1:11:38you at 25, it feels like money thrown
- 1:11:39away. For me, at almost 60, it's not
- 1:11:42money thrown away; it's money I'll see
- 1:11:44again soon. So, it still increases your
- 1:11:46INPS total. Furthermore, you only pay
- 1:11:49INPS up to € 110,000. If you give
- 1:11:52yourself a € 300,000 administrator's
- 1:11:54fee, everything above that is not
- 1:11:55subject to INPS. Technically, this INPS
- 1:11:59portion is 2/3 charged to the company
- 1:12:04and 1/3 charged to you. But if the
- 1:12:06company is yours, you couldn't care
- 1:12:08less whether it’s 2/3 for the company
- 1:12:10and 1/3 for you. Additionally, since it
- 1:12:14is income comparable to employment, it
- 1:12:16is subject to the usual IRPEF. So you
- 1:12:18are subject to the usual IRPEF tax
- 1:12:20brackets. So let's say it makes sense
- 1:12:23as long as: as long as your income is
- 1:12:26low, you stay in the 23%bracket. Once
- 1:12:29you hit 33%, considering there’s also
- 1:12:32the 26%for INPS, it starts to make much
- 1:12:34less sense; and at 43%, unless you
- 1:12:37really need the money, it makes even
- 1:12:39less sense, because 26%for INPS plus 43
- 1:12:42%on the rest is worse than paying
- 1:12:44corporate tax plus dividends. I must
- 1:12:49say, however, there is one advantage to
- 1:12:51having a director's salary: you can
- 1:12:54deduct all your personal deductible
- 1:12:56expenses, medical costs, mortgage
- 1:12:58interest, home renovations—which for
- 1:13:00some people are substantial—and your
- 1:13:02pension fund. Pension fund. Ah, don't
- 1:13:07think about getting a sectoral pension
- 1:13:09fund because they already told me no
- 1:13:10way, it has to be an open pension fund;
- 1:13:13so you can deduct all your personal
- 1:13:14expenses from the director's salary to
- 1:13:16lower your income tax, meaning you
- 1:13:18eventually only pay the INPS social
- 1:13:20security contributions. So, at the very
- 1:13:23least, it's worth giving yourself a
- 1:13:24director's salary that covers all the
- 1:13:26deductions you would already have. I
- 1:13:29always understand that if you're 25,
- 1:13:31your deductions are probably zero, but
- 1:13:33if you're almost 60, medical expenses
- 1:13:35abound—walkers and things like that
- 1:13:37—because I always find it bizarre
- 1:13:39when twenty-year-olds are convinced
- 1:13:41that sixty-year-olds walk around with
- 1:13:43walkers. Yes, maybe some do, and then
- 1:13:46there are home renovations because
- 1:13:47you’re at a certain age where you've
- 1:13:49bought property, and in your life,
- 1:13:51you've done a ton of work. I have about
- 1:13:53seven pages of tax returns just for
- 1:13:56renovations. Not seven lines, seven
- 1:13:58pages, each containing three [items] I
- 1:13:59think, right? So more than 20 lines of
- 1:14:02renovation declarations, plus all the
- 1:14:04others for energy savings, furniture,
- 1:14:06and various bonuses here and there.
- 1:14:10Furthermore, having a director's salary
- 1:14:12means having a payslip you can show if,
- 1:14:14by any chance, you are looking to rent,
- 1:14:16for example, or looking for a mortgage.
- 1:14:19Because if you're looking for a rental
- 1:14:20or a mortgage and you show that you
- 1:14:21receive dividends, they'll laugh in
- 1:14:23your face. If you show a payslip
- 1:14:25instead, the bank might realize it's a
- 1:14:27director's salary from your own LLC,
- 1:14:29which you effectively pay yourself, but
- 1:14:31a landlord might be perfectly fine with
- 1:14:34it. And so, because these days you
- 1:14:37can't get an apartment for rent without
- 1:14:39a payslip, it has this advantage:
- 1:14:41you're better integrated into the
- 1:14:43company. Obviously, there are also all
- 1:14:46the expense reimbursements. Every time
- 1:14:48the director spends money doing
- 1:14:50something for the company, they get
- 1:14:52reimbursed. Typically, these are travel
- 1:14:54expenses. If the administrator is
- 1:14:56traveling, they get reimbursed for the
- 1:14:58travel, plus they are given a per diem
- 1:15:00which is about € 46 in Italy, and I
- 1:15:02think maybe € 78 abroad. The per diem
- 1:15:06includes meals. So, it's not like the
- 1:15:08administrator is rolling in dough, but
- 1:15:10well, there are expense reimbursements.
- 1:15:13I’ve heard of certain administrators
- 1:15:15who would have the company pay their
- 1:15:16per diem just to go to the company
- 1:15:18office. In my opinion, that’s not a
- 1:15:22right, because you get the per diem
- 1:15:24going from the company office to
- 1:15:25somewhere else that isn't your home,
- 1:15:27but you don't get it for going from
- 1:15:28your home to the company office, even
- 1:15:30if it's in a different town. I usually
- 1:15:34think in these cases they use the
- 1:15:36loophole where the company has two
- 1:15:38locations, one in your town of
- 1:15:40residence, one outside, and you go to
- 1:15:43the one outside. In that case, it works
- 1:15:46, but be careful with these little
- 1:15:48games, okay, the administrator is
- 1:15:51entitled to meal vouchers, which at the
- 1:15:53moment are € 10, because obviously
- 1:15:56you make them electronic; you'd be
- 1:15:58foolish to do them any other way. If
- 1:16:01you use paper ones, which are limited,
- 1:16:03I think, to € 4 or € 10 a day, I
- 1:16:05clearly advise using them only on
- 1:16:06working days; don't include Saturdays,
- 1:16:08Sundays, or holidays, because that
- 1:16:10looks suspicious. The Revenue Agency
- 1:16:12could contest it. It’s unlikely an
- 1:16:14administrator with a micro-company who
- 1:16:16works one hour a week would need to
- 1:16:18work on Saturdays and Sundays. So, they
- 1:16:20even have meal vouchers which are
- 1:16:22practically cash. And I'll tell you
- 1:16:25right now, for meal vouchers—they
- 1:16:27aren't sponsors of this video—but
- 1:16:29there are basically only two big
- 1:16:31players, I imagine you know them both,
- 1:16:33one big one and one smart one. Anyway,
- 1:16:36let's not even name them, so there's no
- 1:16:38doubt that this video is sponsored.
- 1:16:41Then the administrator is entitled to
- 1:16:46Fringe Benefits, which are € 1000, or
- 1:16:48€ 2000 if they have children. And be
- 1:16:53careful, because many people are
- 1:16:55convinced that Fringe Benefits can only
- 1:16:57be obtained through gas vouchers or
- 1:16:59shopping vouchers. That is not true at
- 1:17:02all. I asked my labor consultant, and
- 1:17:05as you can see, what I pay them is
- 1:17:07definitely worth it. Because, this
- 1:17:09labor consultant says the fringe
- 1:17:10benefit, for example, can also be given
- 1:17:12as a rent reimbursement. So you show
- 1:17:14that you paid at least € 1000 or €
- 1:17:162000 in rent throughout the year—easy
- 1:17:18—or as a utility bill reimbursement.
- 1:17:20So fringe benefits can also be given as
- 1:17:22reimbursements; therefore, it can be
- 1:17:24much easier to receive them, and in
- 1:17:26that case, you receive them as a bank
- 1:17:27transfer, a direct bank transfer, boom.
- 1:17:31These are totally exempt. Exempt from
- 1:17:33INPS, exempt from income tax. Yeah,
- 1:17:34that's money going straight, € 1000
- 1:17:36or € 2000 straight into the
- 1:17:38administrator's pocket. As I mentioned
- 1:17:40earlier, there are ways to take money
- 1:17:42out of an SRL with much lower or no
- 1:17:44taxation, but they are very limited;
- 1:17:46it's not like getting € 100,000 in
- 1:17:48fringe benefits. Then there is
- 1:17:51corporate welfare; you should get
- 1:17:53informed here as it starts to get messy
- 1:17:55. It must be offered to all categories
- 1:17:59of employees, but since it's your
- 1:18:00micro-SRL, it's just you. So, for the
- 1:18:04administrator, corporate welfare can be
- 1:18:06a real minefield regarding what is
- 1:18:08included and what is not. It is not as
- 1:18:11common or convenient as fringe benefits
- 1:18:13. Let's move on to other ways that
- 1:18:16aren't tied to the administrator to
- 1:18:17take money out of the SRL. There are
- 1:18:21copyright royalties and trademark
- 1:18:23rights, which, by the way, are taxed in
- 1:18:25two slightly different categories on
- 1:18:28your tax return. You can get money out;
- 1:18:32you can ask your SRL to pay you
- 1:18:34royalties or trademark fees if the SRL
- 1:18:37is using a trademark of yours or
- 1:18:39products you authored. For example, in
- 1:18:43theory, I could ask my SRL to pay me
- 1:18:46copyright royalties on my videos.
- 1:18:48However, I don't actually do that.
- 1:18:50Instead, I will likely ask my SRL to
- 1:18:52pay me royalties on my trademark. The
- 1:18:54brand you see here, on that PC, is my
- 1:18:57trademark. "Educati e Finanziati" is
- 1:18:59also my trademark. Clearly, the
- 1:19:01royalties the SRL pays you must be a
- 1:19:03fraction of what it has earned. If it
- 1:19:06pays you double the royalties compared
- 1:19:08to what it earned, the tax authorities
- 1:19:10will really tear you apart if they
- 1:19:12conduct an audit; so obviously, it must
- 1:19:14be a sensible fraction of what the SRL
- 1:19:17earned. For a YouTuber, it's easy
- 1:19:19because you go to YouTube, see how much
- 1:19:21you earned just from YouTube, and take
- 1:19:23a fraction of that and transfer it to
- 1:19:25yourself as royalties. Copyright
- 1:19:27royalties are not subject to INPS
- 1:19:28social security contributions, and
- 1:19:30trademark rights aren't either, though
- 1:19:32they are subject to standard personal
- 1:19:34income tax rates. By the way,
- 1:19:36copyrights have a 25%tax deduction on
- 1:19:38the taxable amount, or 40%if you are a
- 1:19:40"lucky" young person. So copyrights are
- 1:19:44better, but usually, you have a
- 1:19:45trademark. The trademark must be
- 1:19:47registered; it's better if it is
- 1:19:48registered. It's best if it's
- 1:19:51registered before founding the SRL,
- 1:19:53otherwise someone might say you did it
- 1:19:56to bypass tax laws. So that is another
- 1:20:00fairly typical system, and it's mostly
- 1:20:02convenient because you don't have to
- 1:20:04pay INPS, which I understand young
- 1:20:06people see as a lost investment. There
- 1:20:10is also the end-of-mandate severance
- 1:20:12pay. It’s basically the severance pay
- 1:20:17, but for the director; however, it
- 1:20:19only works when the director’s term
- 1:20:21ends, so if you are on your own, forget
- 1:20:23about it. If, on the other hand, there
- 1:20:26are two or three of you, maybe you can
- 1:20:27take turns every now and then and
- 1:20:29provide for a severance indemnity. Uh,
- 1:20:31it must be decided beforehand, so there
- 1:20:33are some constraints, some constraints.
- 1:20:37And there is, as many of you saw in my
- 1:20:38video about the company car, my new
- 1:20:40company car, which I’ll link here:
- 1:20:42the option of buying a company car,
- 1:20:43I’m telling you, it’s not a bargain
- 1:20:45. Meaning that—and I will make a very
- 1:20:49, very specific video on this; so I
- 1:20:51won’t go into the details in this
- 1:20:53video. I’ll make an extremely
- 1:20:55specific video: whether it’s better
- 1:20:56to buy as a private individual, as a
- 1:20:58company car, or as a VAT holder. Well,
- 1:21:00obviously, often there isn’t really a
- 1:21:01choice, eh. But it’s not, it’s not
- 1:21:05what you think, unless you have a
- 1:21:07profession that explicitly requires a
- 1:21:10car (a sales agent, put simply), or you
- 1:21:12buy a truck and fill it with bricks.
- 1:21:16And if you buy a company car for the
- 1:21:18director to get around, well, what the
- 1:21:21company can deduct is very, very
- 1:21:23limited. It must be said, however, that
- 1:21:26you avoid paying the dividend; that is,
- 1:21:28in fact, the director uses the company
- 1:21:30car, and it’s an asset purchased by
- 1:21:32the company on which he didn't pay the
- 1:21:3526%dividend tax. So, even just being
- 1:21:38able to buy it with company money is
- 1:21:39convenient because you didn’t pay
- 1:21:40that 26%in dividends. Furthermore, I
- 1:21:43tell you, from personal experience, a
- 1:21:45company car purchased has the exact
- 1:21:47same discounts and the exact same price
- 1:21:48as one bought as a private individual.
- 1:21:51I had it done like, I mean, so it’s
- 1:21:53not like they increase the price for
- 1:21:54you because it’s bought as a company.
- 1:21:56I got a quote as a private individual
- 1:21:58and then I went there with that quote
- 1:21:59and said, "I want to buy it as a
- 1:22:01company." It’s not like they raised
- 1:22:02the quote on me, which is something I
- 1:22:04think they would definitely do for
- 1:22:06electricity. Besides, this corporate
- 1:22:09deductibility also depends on the type
- 1:22:11of fuel, which is the reason why I
- 1:22:13bought an electric car, both for the
- 1:22:15deductibility and because, since it’s
- 1:22:17for the director’s use, it increases
- 1:22:19the director’s income, but being
- 1:22:20electric, it increases it very little.
- 1:22:24So, these were the mechanisms, as we
- 1:22:26anticipated, and it’s obviously not a
- 1:22:29magic bullet, and the government isn't
- 1:22:32that stupid; however, there are ways to
- 1:22:34take out small amounts of money,
- 1:22:36clearly suited for a director who is
- 1:22:39running an LLC almost as if it were a
- 1:22:42sole proprietorship, and it’s not
- 1:22:44meant for the big-time executive. Or in
- 1:22:47that case, they resign themselves to
- 1:22:49paying dividends, or they award
- 1:22:50themselves a huge director's fee and
- 1:22:51pay all the social security
- 1:22:52contributions. Before leaving you to
- 1:22:58the last part of the video, which for
- 1:23:00many might be the most interesting,
- 1:23:02where I actually reveal the money this
- 1:23:04LLC earned and how it spent it, we’ve
- 1:23:06made a couple of notes here. And well,
- 1:23:10we will do, as I’ve already said, a
- 1:23:13video on cars: company car, car as a
- 1:23:15sole proprietorship, or personal car
- 1:23:18and the advantages. We’ll do the math
- 1:23:20, then I’ll give you the Excel sheet,
- 1:23:23as usual, to run all the calculations,
- 1:23:25and, um, we will also do a comparison
- 1:23:27video of ordinary sole proprietorship
- 1:23:29versus LLC, and maybe, if inspiration
- 1:23:31strikes, I’ll throw in the flat-rate
- 1:23:33scheme too, because, dear flat-rate
- 1:23:34friends living in a basement eating
- 1:23:36cheese rinds, not everyone lives your
- 1:23:38life. For some people, the flat-rate
- 1:23:41scheme isn't worth it and the ordinary
- 1:23:43one is better, for example, for those
- 1:23:44with many expenses or many deductions.
- 1:23:48But I wanted to tell you something even
- 1:23:50more important: if you have an LLC, go
- 1:23:53to the institutional websites, all of
- 1:23:55them possible, starting with the
- 1:23:57Revenue Agency and INPS, and get
- 1:23:59authorized; that is, get authorization
- 1:24:02to enter as a director of your LLC, so
- 1:24:04you also have access to the Revenue
- 1:24:06Agency site and the INPS site as an LLC
- 1:24:09. Okay? The accountant will probably
- 1:24:13ask you for authorization as well.
- 1:24:14Grant authorization to the accountant
- 1:24:16and also to yourself, so you can access
- 1:24:17it. Another thing, it’s not a bad
- 1:24:19idea to also get authorization for the
- 1:24:21Ministry of Labor, because every now
- 1:24:23and then you need to submit
- 1:24:24notifications for occasional work on
- 1:24:26the Ministry of Labor website. If you
- 1:24:29provide occasional work under certain
- 1:24:31conditions, you must submit an advance
- 1:24:33notification to the Ministry of Labor;
- 1:24:35I always do it, even when the
- 1:24:37conditions don't apply, so they don't
- 1:24:38complain. But you have to submit an
- 1:24:41advance notification to the Ministry of
- 1:24:42Labor. If you already have the
- 1:24:44authorization, you speed up the process
- 1:24:46, so a few authorizations for the
- 1:24:48Ministry of Labor, INPS, Revenue Agency
- 1:24:50; tinker around until you figure out
- 1:24:52how to get authorized as a company with
- 1:24:54a corporate VAT number. And here we are
- 1:24:56at the last part. This needs the
- 1:24:58accounts here. Um, so, the accounting
- 1:25:02for my LLC. Well, first let’s clarify
- 1:25:07what my LLC manages. My LLC manages my
- 1:25:10YouTube channel and my social media
- 1:25:12channels regarding advertising activity
- 1:25:14; it does not, however, manage me
- 1:25:16personally—that is, when I go to give
- 1:25:19university lectures or attend events,
- 1:25:21unless I’m advertising, which is very
- 1:25:23rare. Usually, when I go to conferences
- 1:25:27or lectures, all my academic, speaking,
- 1:25:30or event-based activity, as long as
- 1:25:33it's not advertising, is handled by my
- 1:25:35own flat-rate tax scheme. I finally
- 1:25:39opened a flat-rate tax account. I’d
- 1:25:41been drooling for years looking at that
- 1:25:43cursed 3%tax rate of yours. Well, I
- 1:25:46finally opened one myself. By the way,
- 1:25:48I might already be kicked out next year
- 1:25:50because if I write the book as planned,
- 1:25:51I think I’m at risk of exceeding the
- 1:25:53limit. Um, the LLC instead handles
- 1:25:56proceeds from YouTube and all
- 1:25:58advertising activity. Now, I keep, as I
- 1:26:03said, cash-basis accounting. I couldn't
- 1:26:06care less if the accounting by law is
- 1:26:08supposed to be accrual-based. Anyway,
- 1:26:11my LLC closes the year so well that it
- 1:26:14makes no difference. Cash basis versus
- 1:26:17accrual accounting barely differs
- 1:26:20because I keep very precise records, so
- 1:26:22I make all payments by December 31st to
- 1:26:25align the cash-basis accounting with
- 1:26:27the accrual, and so, in the end, they
- 1:26:30are quite aligned. So, I made
- 1:26:33projections for 2026; I'm recording
- 1:26:35this at the end of September '26. I
- 1:26:38made projections for October, November,
- 1:26:40and December, which will likely go like
- 1:26:42March, April, and May, because that’s
- 1:26:44how it is—the YouTube world has a
- 1:26:46dead summer with few sponsors, high
- 1:26:48peaks in autumn and spring, and winter
- 1:26:50is hit or miss, or rather, it's steady
- 1:26:52except for Christmas when there’s a
- 1:26:54spike. But since there wasn't a spike
- 1:26:57last year, I'm assuming there won't be
- 1:26:59one this year either. So I made some
- 1:27:02projections for these autumn months; so
- 1:27:05, for 2026, my LLC should make earnings
- 1:27:09(I mean cash-ins, so a skilled person,
- 1:27:12a real entrepreneur, would probably
- 1:27:16call it turnover) of € 264,000. Okay?
- 1:27:21So, honestly, maybe, just maybe, an
- 1:27:23ordinary tax scheme could have been
- 1:27:25appropriate. And to be precise, about
- 1:27:27€ 100,000 comes from the "Tutte in
- 1:27:30Regola" business. Our automatic
- 1:27:33declaration service for foreign brokers
- 1:27:36, because you all went crazy with
- 1:27:38foreign brokers; about € 130,000
- 1:27:40comes from sponsors or activities
- 1:27:42related to sponsors in some way. €
- 1:27:4526,000 is the meager revenue I get from
- 1:27:48YouTube. And why, by the way, is it a
- 1:27:51bit—why do I say "paltry"? Well,
- 1:27:53because last year it was, I won't say
- 1:27:54double, but almost; two years ago it
- 1:27:56was double. So actually, YouTube—the
- 1:27:59revenue from YouTube is in a sharp
- 1:28:02decline, partly because I, unlike many
- 1:28:04others, don't insist on putting in so
- 1:28:07many ads. Have you noticed that in my
- 1:28:10videos there’s an ad every 10 minutes
- 1:28:11, and in the live streams one every 15
- 1:28:13minutes? And I think almost all my
- 1:28:16colleagues use the "you decide" button,
- 1:28:19and if it's set to "you decide,"
- 1:28:20YouTube sometimes won't show any for
- 1:28:22half an hour, and then it throws one at
- 1:28:25you every 2 minutes. If it sees a part
- 1:28:28you're watching closely, bam, bam, bam,
- 1:28:29one every 2 minutes. And since I know
- 1:28:32this thing is annoying, I’d rather
- 1:28:34keep them constant, but, uh, properly
- 1:28:37spread out, 80s Canale 5 style. Um,
- 1:28:40very well. Then we have, for which I
- 1:28:42thank you, € 3,600 in donations.
- 1:28:45Thank you, thank you, thank you for the
- 1:28:47€ 3,600 in donations. Donations go
- 1:28:49right into the accounting, uh, they are
- 1:28:51VAT-exempt. But then we have the crumbs
- 1:28:54that come from Spotify—yes, Educati e
- 1:28:57Finanziati is also on Spotify—and the
- 1:29:00merch T-shirts, uh, and Amazon. You
- 1:29:04have, you see the Amazon links under
- 1:29:06every video. If you click on one of
- 1:29:09those and buy the item, or even buy
- 1:29:11something else, I get—let's say—two
- 1:29:13little chocolates, like the ones you
- 1:29:16liked so much in the last video, two
- 1:29:18little chocolates and three bits of
- 1:29:20chocolate. Right, so these are the
- 1:29:24activities. So the bulk is clearly made
- 1:29:26by sponsors, then comes Tutto In Regola
- 1:29:28. But Tutto In Regola, mind you, has a
- 1:29:32fairly large turnover, but it has costs
- 1:29:34, because Tutto In Regola has...Mr...
- 1:29:36When you write and Matteo replies,
- 1:29:38Matteo has to be paid handsomely, so
- 1:29:40avoid being a pain in his neck. And
- 1:29:45then YouTube, which, well, when I’m
- 1:29:47interviewed about YouTuber earnings and
- 1:29:49I say, "Look, with a finance channel
- 1:29:51that’s a tenth of mine, so 20,000
- 1:29:53subscribers, you can live comfortably."
- 1:29:57I mean living comfortably with YouTube
- 1:30:00revenues and sponsor activity. With a
- 1:30:02flat-rate VAT scheme, with an LLC I
- 1:30:04doubt it, but with a flat-rate scheme,
- 1:30:06with a finance channel that’s a tenth
- 1:30:08of mine, in my opinion, you can manage
- 1:30:10to live because clearly you have much
- 1:30:12lower expenses. Uh, in 2025 I paid a
- 1:30:16good € 30,000 in corporate income tax
- 1:30:19; I made an F24 payment of € 30,000.
- 1:30:23€ 1,000. Then I immediately made
- 1:30:26another one for the same amount because
- 1:30:27I had to pay the advance for 2026, so
- 1:30:29bam, bam, € 60,000 that just flew
- 1:30:30away. Okay, I had about € 36,000,
- 1:30:35wait no, sorry, in 2026 I will have
- 1:30:37about € 36,000 in bureaucratic
- 1:30:40expenses. What are bureaucratic
- 1:30:44expenses? How do I classify them? If an
- 1:30:46accountant hears me here, they'll drop
- 1:30:48dead, so if you're an accountant, stop
- 1:30:50watching this video. I classify taxes
- 1:30:53as bureaucratic expenses too, actually,
- 1:30:55but I've been kind enough to separate
- 1:30:57them for you. I classify as
- 1:30:59bureaucratic expenses all those absurd
- 1:31:01payments, TV license fees, stamping of
- 1:31:03accounting books, Chamber of Commerce
- 1:31:05registration, and so on. So, all the
- 1:31:08absurd payments to public bodies; I
- 1:31:10include the accountant, the labor
- 1:31:12consultant, and I also include all the
- 1:31:15INPS and income tax withholdings on the
- 1:31:17administrator's compensation. So, I
- 1:31:20classify INPS and income tax
- 1:31:22withholdings on the administrator's
- 1:31:24compensation, including those borne by
- 1:31:26the administrator, as bureaucratic
- 1:31:27expenses. Basically, my definition of a
- 1:31:30bureaucratic expense is one that I
- 1:31:32wouldn't have paid if I had run the
- 1:31:34business under the table. There you go,
- 1:31:36that is my definition. Since I didn't
- 1:31:39do it under the table, the € 36,000
- 1:31:41is clearly dominated by the accountant,
- 1:31:43INPS, and income tax on the
- 1:31:45administrator's compensation. Then I
- 1:31:49have € 84,000 in operating expenses,
- 1:31:52of which the biggest chunk goes to the
- 1:31:55VAT-registered payments for my
- 1:31:57collaborators, all fully compliant. I
- 1:32:02won't say exactly how much, otherwise
- 1:32:03you'll go and start poking around their
- 1:32:04finances. Um, so € 84,000 in
- 1:32:07operating expenses. Operating expenses,
- 1:32:10by my definition, are those expenses
- 1:32:12without which the company would stop
- 1:32:14working. So, aside from this HB pencil
- 1:32:17I use for notes, which I bought just
- 1:32:20yesterday and would have to
- 1:32:21self-invoice...no, I bought it from a
- 1:32:24professional droning retailer, an
- 1:32:26Italian one I think, so I don't need to
- 1:32:29self-invoice. Aside from the random
- 1:32:33gadgets I buy for the company on Amazon
- 1:32:35, like the camera—no, not the camera,
- 1:32:36that's a different expense. The random
- 1:32:39stuff I buy on Amazon, like a USB cable
- 1:32:41or things like that. Operating expenses
- 1:32:46are: the video editor for Shorts, the
- 1:32:48StreamYard subscription, the Canva
- 1:32:50subscription, the Anthropic
- 1:32:52subscription, my grandmother's
- 1:32:54subscription, and, well, the biggest
- 1:32:56part is made up by the team
- 1:32:58collaborators, which involves two and a
- 1:33:01half full-time people, plus myself. So,
- 1:33:06yeah, expenses add up there, and I
- 1:33:08honestly think € 84,000 is actually
- 1:33:10very, very low. And yes, in fact, I see
- 1:33:14here, ah, there are also the Stripe
- 1:33:15fees. Every time you pay, all above
- 1:33:18board, Stripe takes its commission.
- 1:33:21Then I had € 51,000 in superfluous
- 1:33:24expenses. The definition of a
- 1:33:26superfluous expense is an expense that
- 1:33:28I wouldn't have made if I hadn't been
- 1:33:30able to deduct it. For example, the
- 1:33:33camera you are watching me with, if I
- 1:33:34hadn't been able to deduct it, no way
- 1:33:36would I have bought it, I'd still be
- 1:33:38using...where is it? My grandfather's
- 1:33:43cell phone, this thing here that once
- 1:33:46served as a video camera. Yeah, no way,
- 1:33:49the microphone you see, no way I would
- 1:33:51have bought it, I'd still have that
- 1:33:53giant Yeti I bought used. So let's say
- 1:33:55these are the expenses I wouldn't have
- 1:33:57made if I hadn't been able to deduct
- 1:33:59them. Thanks to the fact that you can
- 1:34:02deduct both VAT and corporate income
- 1:34:04tax. Basically, it's like paying almost
- 1:34:06half the price for things, and so, well
- 1:34:08, it makes you want to spend. I must
- 1:34:09say that an LLC leads to crazy spending
- 1:34:12. For example, here's another expense,
- 1:34:14no way I would have bought this hat
- 1:34:16just to do a little skit of me sleeping
- 1:34:19. So, these are the expenses. You might
- 1:34:22say, "How € 51,000?" Well, come on,
- 1:34:25what about the camera, the phone, this,
- 1:34:26and that? Oh, and I also include the
- 1:34:30administrator's fee in these € 51,000
- 1:34:31, because if I couldn't deduct it, no
- 1:34:33way would I have paid it to myself, so
- 1:34:35I include that too. So, these €
- 1:34:3850,000-plus...they are expenses I could
- 1:34:40have avoided, to which we add €
- 1:34:4340,000 for a company car, a superfluous
- 1:34:45expense that I obviously only make
- 1:34:47because if I hadn't had the LLC—so if
- 1:34:50I had a regular VAT number—I would
- 1:34:52have only had the operating expenses of
- 1:34:54€ 84,000, the bureaucratic expenses
- 1:34:57of € 36,000, and the corporate and
- 1:34:59regional taxes would have been
- 1:35:01different. Okay, I think I've told you
- 1:35:04everything, absolutely everything. I
- 1:35:06even gave you the numbers; now I can't
- 1:35:08go into details, obviously, because
- 1:35:10other people are involved. But now you
- 1:35:16know how much a YouTube channel that
- 1:35:18does sponsorships makes, though all
- 1:35:20things considered, it does few of them,
- 1:35:22because I could...it does few, and the
- 1:35:24manager is a bit of a dud. at
- 1:35:27negotiating with sponsors. I usually,
- 1:35:30my negotiation with sponsors usually
- 1:35:32works like this. They say, "Let's have
- 1:35:35a call," answer: "No." Then, "How about
- 1:35:38we do a sponsorship?" Answer: "This
- 1:35:41much money, take it or leave it."
- 1:35:43Period. It's not like I go there,
- 1:35:45negotiate, talk, and say, "How about
- 1:35:47€ 100,000?""No, 60? No, we'll give
- 1:35:51you 1,000. So, 50? No." I name a figure
- 1:35:54, which is probably much less than the
- 1:35:56market rate. My colleagues, we have a
- 1:35:59group chat, we have...you should know
- 1:36:00that YouTubers have secret WhatsApp
- 1:36:02chats among themselves. I have several
- 1:36:05chats with groups of YouTubers
- 1:36:07categorized by different definitions,
- 1:36:08and I always get scolded for asking for
- 1:36:10too little. So, so this is what a
- 1:36:14YouTube channel of this size earns,
- 1:36:16with all in all little advertising,
- 1:36:18because not every video is sponsored
- 1:36:21and with, uh, an administrator who
- 1:36:23isn't very good at going after sponsors
- 1:36:25for money. Alright, the video is over,
- 1:36:29so I’ll force you to watch more
- 1:36:30sooner or later. I know I always
- 1:36:33promise videos that I don't end up
- 1:36:34making, but I’ll do these because
- 1:36:35I’ve crunched the numbers recently.
- 1:36:37The personal car video for a VAT number
- 1:36:40or an LLC, the costs with the whole
- 1:36:43Excel sheet, and then we could do a
- 1:36:45comparison video between a personal VAT
- 1:36:48number, sorry, flat-rate VAT, ordinary
- 1:36:51VAT, and an LLC. Um, although this one
- 1:36:56is more of a comparison video than an
- 1:36:57Excel sheet, because there are a ton of
- 1:36:59little details that are a bit specific.
- 1:37:02I repeat, don't take it for granted
- 1:37:04that a flat-rate VAT is always better,
- 1:37:06because if a person has many expenses,
- 1:37:08it clearly isn't worth it for them.
- 1:37:10Well, that’s all for this time.
- 1:37:13Greetings to everyone. Bye. Bye.
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