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0:52Hey, are you ready?
1:46We don't have
2:19Hi [crying]
2:25mama.
2:29Hello.
4:44Praise the Lord everybody. Let's stand
4:45together in the house of the Lord.
4:48Aren't you glad to be in God's house on
4:50Tuesday night?
4:52Why don't we just give the Lord a good
4:53hand clap of praise all across the
4:55building?
4:59Oh, come on. Let's clap our hands to
5:00him. magnify his name.
5:08Hallelujah.
5:11Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. At
5:14least for the month of June, our youth
5:17youth, our young people in our college
5:18and career age group are having their
5:21own service next door in the youth
5:24chapel. And uh man, I feel so good about
5:27that. uh there's things they can get and
5:29receive from the Lord over there that
5:32they can't receive in here. It's just a
5:35it's a different deal. It's a different
5:37chemistry when they're able to worship
5:38together and lead. And so, I want us to
5:41pray for them. I want us to pray that
5:43God speaks to them, that God uses our
5:46evangelist, Brother Frederick, to speak
5:48to their heart. And then right here in
5:51this sanctuary, uh you'll be you'll be
5:54listening to pastor. I'll be teaching
5:56tonight. So,
5:59so you got you got me on your hands, but
6:03we're going to have great services in
6:05both tabernacles here and the youth
6:07chapel. Let's pray for them. Let's pray
6:09for our service. Let's just believe for
6:11the voice of the Lord. Then we're going
6:12to let this children's choir sing to
6:14you. Jesus, dear Lord, thank you for
6:16your mercy, your goodness, your love,
6:19your compassion. Baptize this place with
6:21your glory tonight. Speak to our hearts
6:24in Jesus name we pray. Amen. God bless
6:27you. Worship together. You can be seated
6:29if you need to. Let's have church.
6:34[music]
6:43[music]
6:50Now is the time. [music and singing]
6:58Come [singing]
7:00now is the time to give [music] your
7:05heart [singing]
7:10as you are to worship [singing]
7:14[music]
7:18[singing]
7:20just as you are
7:22>> [music]
7:22>> for
7:23your [singing]
7:24heart.
7:32>> One day every confess you are God.
7:35[singing]
7:37One day [music] every knee will bow.
7:42Still [music] the greatest treasury
7:44for us. Do I choose [music] you now?
7:54The time worship.
8:00[music]
8:04Now is the time [music and singing]
8:06to give
8:07your heart.
8:12[singing]
8:14As you are [music]
8:15in worship,
8:17[singing]
8:19[music]
8:24as you are before [music and singing]
8:27your God,
8:36>> one day every time I confess
8:38[music and singing] you are God,
8:40one day every knee will bow.
8:45Soon the greatest [music and singing]
8:47treasure remains for those who gladly
8:51choose you now.
8:55>> One day every [music] tongue will
8:57confess you are God. [singing]
9:00One day every knee will bow. [music]
9:05Still the greatest [singing] treasure
9:07remains for those [music]
9:09who gladly choose you now.
9:15>> One day every [music] tongue will
9:17confess your God.
9:20One day every knee will bow
9:25to the greatest [music and singing]
9:26treasury made for those who gladly sing
9:30to you now. [music and singing]
9:37Now is the time to worship.
9:45[music]
9:47Now is [singing] the time to feel your
9:51heart.
9:55[music]
9:56Just as you are [singing]
9:59worship,
10:01[music]
10:06just as [music] you are for your love.
10:14[music]
10:27Well, praise the Lord everybody.
10:30You can return to your seats. Man,
10:31didn't these kids do a fantastic job
10:34tonight?
10:40At the onset of this service, we're
10:42going to give you an opportunity to be
10:44blessed. Are you excited to hear pastor
10:46teach tonight?
10:50Man, [cheering]
10:52if I could get a couple ushers to come
10:54help me tonight.
10:59Ah, there they go.
11:06Jesus. Jesus. Jesus.
11:09Thank you, Jesus. We're going to pray
11:12over this offering tonight. God, we ask
11:14you to take this offering, use it for
11:16the furtherance of your kingdom. In
11:18Jesus name we pray. Come give unto the
11:22Lord.
11:39Heat. Heat.
11:50[music]
12:05>> [music]
12:25>> You may be seated.
12:27I uh I woke up this morning with an old
12:31song on my mind and it's you're in the
12:34right place for a miracle. I'm just
12:37going to tell you, I don't know what
12:38your need is tonight, but as they begin
12:42to sing, God, we serve the God of the
12:44impossible. There's nothing that he
12:47cannot do. There's no situation that he
12:50does not have the remedy for. All you've
12:53got to do is just reach out and believe.
12:55Do I have anybody in the house that
12:57believes that God can do anything?
13:01Worship with them as they sing.
13:22You were the [singing] word of the
13:24beginning.
13:26[music]
13:26>> Yeah. One with power the [singing]
13:30Lord most high. [music]
13:36Hidden glory in creation
13:41now [singing] revealed in
13:45our [music]
13:45heart.
13:46>> Sing this with us. What a beautiful name
13:49it is. [music]
13:51What a beautiful name [singing] it is.
13:54The name of [music]
13:56Jesus
13:58Christ our [singing]
13:59King.
13:59>> What a beautiful name.
14:01>> What a beautiful name [music] it is.
14:05Nothing compares to this.
14:07[music and singing]
14:08What a beautiful name it is. The
14:12[music and singing] name of Jesus.
14:18>> You didn't want [singing] heaven without
14:22us.
14:24Jesus, [singing] you brought heaven
14:28down.
14:32>> My sin [music and singing] was greater,
14:34your love was greater.
14:39[music]
14:42[singing]
14:43What a wonderful name [music] it is.
14:46>> What a wonderful What a wonderful
14:48[singing] name it is.
14:51The name of [music] Jesus
14:54Christ. [singing]
14:58>> What a wonderful [music]
14:59name it is.
15:02Nothing compares [singing] to this. What
15:05[music] a wonderful name it is. The name
15:09[singing] of Jesus.
15:13>> Could not hold you. The belt are [music]
15:17before you. You silence the ghost of sin
15:23[singing] and grace.
15:26The heavens [music]
15:27are roaring.
15:29>> The heavens ro of your glory.
15:32>> The praise of your glory.
15:33>> For you are raised
15:36to die. [music]
15:37>> You be raised to life. But there
15:40>> you have no right.
15:43>> He has no right. I have no
15:46>> there is no [singing] forever
15:52forever God.
15:55>> Yours is the kingom
15:58the king [music]
15:58is the glory
16:01of glory.
16:02>> Yours is the name [music]
16:04of
16:07the name above.
16:08>> What a powerful name it is. [music]
16:11What a power.
16:12>> What a powerful name it is. In the name
16:15of Jesus, the name [music and singing]
16:16of Jesus
16:19Christ.
16:22>> What a powerful name. Nothing can stand.
16:26Nothing can stand [music] against.
16:29What a powerful name it is. The name
16:33[music and singing]
16:34of Jesus.
16:37Death could not hold you. That [music]
16:40bell tore before you. You silence the
16:45[singing] ghost of [music] sin and
16:49grace.
16:50[singing]
16:51The heavens are rosy.
16:57[music] The
16:57>> praise of your glory for you.
17:00>> You have
17:02been
17:05You have no
17:13forever.
17:15God.
17:17[music]
17:19>> Yours is the king.
17:23>> Yours [music] is the glory.
17:26Yours is the name above [music]
17:30all.
17:32>> You have no rival.
17:33>> You have no right. [music]
17:36>> You have no right.
17:37>> You have no
17:48Yours is the kingom.
17:51[music]
17:51>> Yours is the glory.
17:55>> Yours is the name of
18:00a powerful name.
18:01>> What a powerful name it [music] is.
18:04>> What a powerful name.
18:05>> What a powerful name [singing] it is.
18:07>> The name of Jesus [music]
18:11[singing] Christ.
18:15What [music] a powerful name [singing]
18:17it is.
18:18>> Nothing can stand.
18:19>> Nothing can stand against
18:22what a powerful name [singing] is
18:25[music] the name of Jesus.
18:30>> Death could [music] not hold you.
18:32>> The veil tore before you.
18:33>> The veil tore before you. You silence
18:38[music] the voice
18:40of sin and gra.
18:44>> The heavens are ros
18:48of your glory.
18:50>> The praise of your glory.
18:51>> For you are [music] raised to the
18:57[singing]
18:58>> You have no right.
19:00>> There's only one.
19:02>> You have no evil. [music]
19:04There's only one now and forever.
19:08God,
19:09>> forever.
19:12>> Yours is the [music] king of glory.
19:16>> Yours is the glory. [music]
19:19>> Yours is the name above [music] all
19:23[singing]
19:24name.
19:25>> You have no rival. You have no rival.
19:29>> There's only one.
19:32There's only [music] one name forever.
19:36>> You reign forever. [music]
19:39>> Forever. Forever.
19:41>> Yours is the king.
19:43>> Your king.
19:44>> Yours is the glory.
19:46>> Glory.
19:48>> Yours is the king. [music]
19:53[singing]
19:59You had no rival,
20:03no equal. [singing]
20:11[music]
20:16[singing]
20:19[music]
20:21>> You have no right. You have no right.
20:25>> There's only one God.
20:27>> You have no [music]
20:29one
20:31forever.
20:32>> Forever
20:34forever. [music]
20:36Forever.
20:37>> Yours is the king.
20:39>> His kingdom in his
20:43knee will bow.
20:44>> Yours is the
20:48hallelujah. Hallelujah.
20:49>> You have no rival. You have no
20:54There is no
20:56[music]
20:58>> now and forever.
21:01God [music]
21:04is the king.
21:05>> Yours [singing] is the king
21:08for your [music]
21:12glory.
21:17>> You have no rival. You have no right.
21:22>> You have no right.
21:23>> You have no equal.
21:25>> You have no equal now and forever.
21:28[music]
21:29God,
21:32>> yours is the kingdom. Yours is the
21:35kingom. [music]
21:36>> Is for yours is the glory
21:40for your glory. Jos is the name [music]
21:43above all.
21:50[music and singing]
21:56[music]
21:58>> Hallelujah.
22:00>> Hallelujah.
22:17Hallelujah.
22:19Hallelujah.
22:24>> Why don't we lift our hands and praise
22:25the Lord together all over the house?
22:27>> Oh, hallelujah.
22:29>> Come on, magnify the King [music] of
22:30Kings and the Lord of Lords.
22:35Everybody in this house lifting him up.
22:42>> Oh, magnify the Lord.
22:47Hallelujah. God's a good God.
22:50Even on a bad day, he's still a good
22:53God.
22:54He's a good God on a good day. He's a
22:57good God on a bad day. He's a good God
22:59on an ordinary day.
23:03What's going on in the world, what's
23:05going on in our life does not change the
23:07goodness [music] of God.
23:11>> It changes our perspective,
23:14but it doesn't change God.
23:18Hallelujah.
23:19Hallelujah. Man, I'm so glad to be in
23:21the house of the Lord. And uh I want to
23:25go quickly to the word because I've got
23:27something that's been burning on my
23:30heart for a month and I hadn't been able
23:31to teach about it.
23:34And u that's the
23:38problem. A lot of times when I
23:39evangelized, one of the most common
23:41things I heard when I evangelized
23:44was young preachers in the church that
23:48would come to me and say, "Man, I just
23:49don't ever get a a a shot in the pull
23:51pit. I just don't ever get an
23:52opportunity to preach.
23:55And what they don't understand
23:58is sometimes the pastor feels that way
24:02and it's his pullpit [laughter]
24:07and uh so
24:10I'm glad to have an opportunity
24:13uh to bring the word of the Lord. 2
24:16Coronicles chapter 5 verses 8-9.
24:20And I feel like I get the privilege of
24:22preaching to the greatest church in the
24:25world tonight.
24:27Greatest church in the world.
24:31And I know that you don't understand
24:32this, but when I go off and preach, it's
24:36never like preaching right here at home.
24:39Never, never, never. Uh, I can take the
24:42same message,
24:45same thought, same anointing, preach it
24:47the same way, and it just don't preach
24:50like it does at Pine Grove Pentecostal
24:52Church because this is a superior
24:55church. This is a great church with
24:59great spiritual depth and it changes
25:03things. It changes things. 2 Chron
25:07Chronicles chapter 5:es 8-9 says this,
25:11and I guess I should have gave my media
25:13team a heads up on what I was going to
25:15preach in my scripture, but I didn't.
25:17For the cherubams spread forth their
25:20wings over the place of the ark. Now,
25:23this is talking about when they are
25:26finished with Solomon's temple.
25:29Solomon's temple is completed and
25:32they're moving the furniture in.
25:35They're about to have their first
25:37service in Solomon's temple.
25:40And what this is saying is that the
25:42cherubams were hung
25:45over the place where the ark sat before
25:47they ever brought the ark in.
25:52And so the cherubams were there over the
25:54place of the ark. And the cherubams
25:57covered the ark and the staves thereof.
26:04And they drew out the staves of the ark
26:06that the end of the staves were seen
26:09from the ark before the oracle,
26:12but they were not seen without.
26:16And there it is
26:18unto this day.
26:23What's being said here
26:26is that the poles
26:30that the ark was carried on
26:34were too long for the room.
26:40And so they pulled them to where they
26:43protruded into the place of worship
26:48instead of them protruding outside.
26:54Are y'all following what I'm saying?
26:57And I want to preach to you for a few
26:59minutes from this.
27:03Sometimes the polls show.
27:08Sometimes
27:10the polls show.
27:12Would you lift your hands and ask the
27:13Holy Ghost to speak for a few minutes?
27:15Jesus, dear. Lord,
27:19I'm asking you in the name of Jesus
27:23and through the power of the Holy Ghost
27:25to speak
27:27in this place tonight
27:30in the precious name of Jesus we pray.
27:33Jesus name. God bless you. You can be
27:35seated. I ask brother
27:41Thrash to help me out with a with a
27:44picture. Do you is that available yet or
27:47do I need to wait?
27:50Where where's my help here?
27:54All right. Thank you so much. This is a
27:57picture.
28:04This is a picture. The only problem is
28:06is there's two things wrong with the
28:08with the picture according to the text.
28:14and that is that the ark would have been
28:17turned the other direction.
28:21In other words, the poles would have
28:23been facing
28:25this curtain
28:29and the poles would have been much
28:30longer than they are there because
28:34those poles would only allow for four
28:38men to carry it.
28:43And what the Bible says is that the
28:45poles
28:47when they set the ark in turned
28:53to where the poles face this curtain
28:58that the poles wouldn't fit in the room.
29:02And so they had a choice of shoving them
29:04backwards to where if you approached
29:08the tabernacle from the back,
29:11you would see the poles showing in the
29:13outer court.
29:16How many of you understand what I'm
29:17saying? The the poles would have been
29:19pushing the curtain out on the backside.
29:24He said that's not what they did because
29:26the poles wouldn't fit. They pulled them
29:29to the inside to where they protruded.
29:32You could see the poles
29:35pushing the curtain
29:39in the holy place.
29:43Now you ask, why is this significant?
29:45Well, I'm I'm about to tell you.
29:49Before we can understand why the polls
29:51were showing, we must understand the
29:53pattern of the temple itself.
29:56The pattern of the tabernacle and later
29:58Solomon's temple, the outer court,
30:00represented the place of approach,
30:03the place of separation, the place of
30:06sacrifice.
30:08It was there that sinful man first
30:11begins to move toward God.
30:14The outer court deals with the sin with
30:16sin and the flesh.
30:19You can no further. You can't get any
30:23further into the holy place until you
30:26first deal with being a sinner in the
30:29outer court.
30:32The holy place is a place of worship,
30:36a place of communion, and a place of
30:39service.
30:41The holy place represented what we do
30:45every service right here in this
30:47tabernacle.
30:49We come into this holy place and this is
30:52where we worship God. And when the Holy
30:54Ghost gets just right on individuals,
30:57they are translated
30:59through the Holy Ghost into the Holiest
31:02of Holies.
31:06So the outer court would represent the
31:10world out there.
31:12The average sinner, the average
31:14backslider, the average person that
31:16claims to be a Christian but really
31:18doesn't go to church. They need to be
31:21one to the gospel.
31:24This auditorium represents all of us
31:27that are making moves toward
31:30wanting to make it to heaven, toward
31:32wanting to be saved. It's where we're
31:34filled with the Holy Ghost. It's where
31:36our life is changed.
31:38It's where we worship.
31:41And somewhere along the way as we
31:43worship,
31:45you know, it's happened to you many
31:46times. It happened the night you were
31:48filled with the Holy Ghost. You are
31:50something miraculous happens and you are
31:53translated into the holiest of holies
31:58>> through the power of the Holy Ghost and
32:00speaking in other tongues.
32:03They say that this curtain that we're
32:06looking at here was so heavy that it
32:09could not be lifted by one man.
32:12The weight of it could not be lifted in
32:15order to enter in to the holiest of
32:17holies when the high priest went in to
32:20sprinkle blood on the altar. And if
32:23other priests would have lifted it, the
32:26spirit of God would have killed them.
32:28And so the greatest theory that we have
32:31is that just like we're translated
32:33through the power of the Holy Ghost when
32:35we speak in tongues, that high priest,
32:37if he did
32:39the altar properly and he did the
32:42worship in the holiest of holies or the
32:44holy place properly, he was translated
32:47into the holiest of holies to sprinkle
32:49blood on the altar and then translated
32:51back. And that makes complete sense if
32:55you've ever been filled with the Holy
32:56Ghost because ever so often it'll happen
32:58to you right in the middle of an
33:01apostolic Holy Ghost service. Anybody
33:03ever been translated? [cheering]
33:10And so with that said, we've got to
33:12understand that the holiest of holies
33:15represents the presence of God that
33:18cannot be approached unless we're
33:20invited.
33:23Unless we're translated,
33:25everything behind that curtain
33:30is holy,
33:32godly, untouched by man, except in the
33:37right circumstances, in the right
33:38situations.
33:40This holy place represents all Holy
33:43Ghost fililled people and how we
33:44worship. I'm not going to take time
33:47tonight, but I could talk about what
33:48each one the the the uh the altar of
33:52showbread, the seven candlesticks, each
33:54one of these pieces of furniture. We
33:57could take time tonight and talk about
33:58what they represent in our worship, but
34:00that's not the subject tonight, and I
34:02don't want to take time for that. I just
34:03want you to understand that the outer
34:05court represents the world. Anybody can
34:08come into the outer court. That's where
34:10you repent. That's where you sacrifice
34:12for your sin. People filled with the
34:14Holy Ghost are brought into a place of
34:16worship.
34:18It represents where we worship. It
34:20represents being in the church.
34:24>> Are you with me?
34:25>> It represents being in the church. And
34:28then the holiest of holies is the place
34:30that we're taken when we're in tongues,
34:32when we would travail, when we
34:34intercede, when we pray in the Holy
34:36Ghost.
34:38So the ark represents the throne, the
34:40covenant and manifest presence of God.
34:43Yet God chose for the ark to be carried
34:46by men, not angels,
34:50>> not invisible forces,
34:53>> not a Philistine cart,
34:58>> but those poles, those staves that we
35:00read about
35:02that did not fit
35:05in the Holiest of Holies,
35:09>> represented
35:11where the hands
35:13of mortal man
35:15>> deal with the things of God.
35:21>> It's that transition place
35:25where fallible men
35:27>> handle the things of an infallible God.
35:32>> The poles were part of God's design.
35:34They were not accidental.
35:37God designed the ark.
35:40God designed the poles.
35:42God designed the holy place. God
35:45designed the holiest of holies. God
35:47designed the dimensions. He knew before
35:51it was ever placed in there that the
35:54staves were too long.
36:01>> The visibility of the poles were not a
36:03construction flaw.
36:06They were part of God's blueprint from
36:08the beginning.
36:10God intended for the poles to show and
36:15they drew out the staves of the ark that
36:18the end of the staves were seen from the
36:20ark before the oracle. God never waste
36:25details. Every measurement matters.
36:28Every board matters. Every curtain
36:32mattered.
36:34>> Every piece of furniture mattered. Every
36:37vessel mattered.
36:39The way the priest approached mattered.
36:44>> What I'm preaching to you is God
36:48designed the polls to show.
36:54>> The visibility of the polls from the
36:56place of worship was not a flaw. It was
36:59a feature.
37:01>> It was not an accident. It was a lesson.
37:04God intentionally left visible evidence
37:07that the ark had to be carried by mortal
37:11men.
37:13The greatest symbol of God's presence in
37:15Israel had a visible reminder of human
37:19involvement.
37:21The poles were visible, but the glory
37:24was still real.
37:26>> The poles were visible,
37:29>> but God's fire still fell. The poles
37:32were visible, but God still wiped or or
37:36rolled their sins forward. The bo the
37:39poles were visible, BUT THE PRESENCE OF
37:41GOD AND THE FIRE OF GOD STILL LICKED UP
37:43THE BLOOD
37:44>> FROM THE ALTAR.
37:49This is a reminder to us that God has
37:52always used imperfect men.
37:56>> Noah was not perfect. Abraham
37:59had mistakes. Jacob was certainly not
38:03perfect. Moses struck the rock. David
38:07committed adultery. Elijah and Peter all
38:12had visible WEAKNESSES THAT THE BIBLE
38:15DOES NOT HIDE FROM US. Just like he does
38:18not hide the fact that the staves would
38:20not fit in the room.
38:24>> The presence was perfect.
38:27Even when the carriers and the way it
38:29was handled was not
38:34proximity is an important thing.
38:40What does it mean that God allowed you
38:43on the inside?
38:47What does it mean that you're not out in
38:49that world anymore,
38:51>> but you've been trusted in the holy
38:53place?
38:55What does it mean for you to tell
38:57everyone I'm in the church?
39:01>> Not on the outside anymore.
39:04>> I've been trusted.
39:10>> You see, in that day, in that day, no
39:12one but the high priest
39:15>> got into the place that you regularly
39:17come to.
39:19>> You regularly come in and out of the
39:21place that in the Old Testament would
39:23have been
39:25reserved just for the priesthood.
39:29>> This is why it is important and I
39:32understand that I'm preaching to the
39:33adults and not the young people, not the
39:36not the uh youth and the the college and
39:39career age tonight, but I want you to
39:41listen to me. That's why it's important
39:44that our kids are made to handle
39:46themselves properly in this room.
39:50>> I'm just going to take a little time
39:51with this.
39:53This shouldn't this ought to be a place
39:55of worship, not a rompus room.
40:03>> I appreciate these boys and girls
40:05sitting up on the front row, but I'm
40:07going to tell you, I don't I don't care
40:08if they're 18. Mom and daddy, every once
40:11in a while, while the preacher's
40:12preaching, you ought to just look where
40:14your kids are sitting.
40:18>> Uh my wife and I, this this isn't the
40:20subject of this message tonight. This is
40:22just
40:24>> shoehorned in. Okay. But me and my wife
40:27get the privilege and sometimes the
40:31dubious distinction of getting to sit
40:33over there where those girls are.
40:36And boy, in that second service after
40:38the first service is over and they've
40:39had their lunch and they get in here,
40:41for some reason, I think they think it's
40:44talk time
40:46instead of listening to preacher time.
40:49They just turn sideways in the pew and
40:51car carry. I have to just focus on the
40:53preacher to keep keep from getting mad
40:58>> because they just turn sideways in the
41:00pew and just carry on full out
41:02conversations totally ignoring that
41:04they're in church.
41:09>> And I look over here and the parents are
41:10just getting their pray. Hallelujah.
41:15I think to myself, man, have you
41:16forgotten
41:19that you have young people?
41:21>> I love these boys sitting on this front
41:23row. But I'm just going to tell you, you
41:26you're you're trusted up here
41:28>> to be quiet.
41:30>> It's not a place to game. It's not a
41:32place to have fun. It's not a place to
41:34write notes. It's a I if you if you set
41:37up here, you got to be mature enough
41:41>> to set up here. [applause and cheering]
41:44because this is the place where we
41:46worship God.
41:47>> And I'm just going to tell you, if
41:48they're if they're going to respect the
41:50church and God when they're adults, it's
41:53taught when they're this age.
41:58>> I'm just telling you, I was fearful to
42:00do too much talking in church
42:04>> because my parents
42:07sat back there and had radar vision or
42:09something.
42:12And I'm telling you about the third time
42:13I leaned over and said something.
42:18That's how I left the building.
42:24>> I'm telling you the truth.
42:30>> And one day, one time, my dad took me
42:33out with a a plug of the back of my arm
42:35in between his fingers. And I said,
42:37"Quit pinching me." He said, "Shut up or
42:39I'll pinch it off.
42:44Now he's shaking his head and acting
42:46like he don't remember all that because
42:47he's got soft in his old age. But I'm
42:49telling the truth.
42:54>> You know why? Because he wanted me to
42:55respect the place of worship.
43:00[applause]
43:02>> You know, you know, we we we live in a
43:04day where people and listen, I'm not
43:06throwing stones. I'm not finding fault,
43:08but we live in a day where where where
43:13I I preached about it last night at at
43:15at the count meeting that I preached in
43:17Louisiana. But we we live in a day where
43:20no one I I shouldn't make that broad of
43:22a statement. People do not appreciate
43:25the house of God like they used to.
43:29>> Let me let me just let me just tell you
43:31something. Just being real with you,
43:33okay? Just let me be real with you for
43:36just a second.
43:40A town of 2
43:4276 people or whatever is here
43:45don't even warrant a church.
43:55>> Well, you you can get quiet if you want
43:57to, but
43:58>> all you got to do is go out west,
44:02get past
44:05Just get past Amarilla, Texas.
44:10That's all you got to do. Just get just
44:12get past Abalene.
44:16And there's 200 uh miles between
44:19Pentecostal churches.
44:23Get in New Mexico and then there's three
44:26and 400 miles sometimes between
44:28Pentecostal churches.
44:31move on into Arizona and Utah
44:35and to fellowship another church, you
44:36have to drive all day long, eight and 10
44:39hours
44:41just to find the next one God Jesus
44:43named tongue-talking church.
44:48Colorado's the same way. Utah,
44:52Washington State, Oregon. I preached at
44:55a place in Oregon. Their closest church
44:57they fellowship is over 200 miles
45:04and I love you but there's people
45:07sitting on these pews that I just tell
45:09you what I don't I don't think I like
45:11the way they do things around it. Let me
45:12tell you if you lived out west you'd be
45:15glad to have a church. You wouldn't care
45:16what kind of music they sang. You
45:18wouldn't care how good the preacher
45:19preached it. [applause]
45:22If you had a church within driving
45:24distance of your house, YOU'D JUST BE
45:26SHOUTING ALL THE WAY TO CHURCH.
45:31[applause]
45:34>> But because we have plenty of churches
45:42>> and and and so much is a just a simple
45:45matter of perspective.
45:49You have people in a church that's so
45:52mad about little old stuff that don't
45:54matter that they're that close to I just
45:57don't think I'm going to go back down. I
45:59don't know. I just can't put my finger
46:00on it. It just don't feel right to me.
46:02Just
46:05something ain't right somewhere.
46:08God's going to show it to me.
46:11Well, what he does, he probably needs to
46:13show you your critical spirit at the
46:15same time.
46:18Let's start by him revealing that to
46:20you.
46:26>> You want him to revolve all this other
46:28stuff. Let him reveal that critical
46:29spirit.
46:34>> But all that would have to happen
46:37is this church burn to the ground.
46:43>> Just let it burn until nothing's left.
46:47And that very same person be down here.
46:49God, our church, our church, Lord. Well,
46:52you was going to leave.
46:57>> But tragedy changed the changes the
47:00perspective.
47:06>> All of a sudden, if you could have your
47:07church back, you'd say, "Lord, I won't
47:09complain about anything.
47:11>> I won't fuss about anything. If we can
47:13just have our church back, if you
47:17How many of you are understanding what
47:18I'm saying? Are you following me here?
47:21>> Sometimes perspective just has to shift
47:27and they and they they use this tactic
47:29in sales.
47:31Every day they use this tactic in sales.
47:34It's amazing how a person's perspective
47:37can change.
47:41I I hate to reveal this to you, but
47:45because you you probably don't realize
47:46this, but they lie at car dealerships.
47:51I I hate to shock you,
47:56but a person can just be just beating
47:58you up over $50 a month on a car note or
48:03$2,000. Just I'm gonna get up and walk
48:06out. You don't come down. Two more
48:07thousand dollars.
48:09and you they go to the sales manager
48:11desk, you they said just tell him we
48:13just sold it to that person in that
48:14other room over there.
48:18>> And so they walk in and say, "Well,
48:20don't don't worry about it. I I guess
48:22it's a moot point for us even over argue
48:24over that $2,000 while we sitting here
48:25dealing. They just sold that car."
48:29And then all of a sudden they say,
48:30"Well, man, if that deal don't go
48:32through, tell them, "Well, I'll take it.
48:33Ain't no problem."
48:37The only thing that just changed is
48:39perspective.
48:45>> Are you understand? Or am I,
48:48>> you know, when the problem is is
48:50everything gets to going too good in the
48:51church.
48:54>> I mean, people's getting the Holy Ghost,
48:56people's getting baptized. I mean,
49:00>> Sunday, Sunday you have eight, get the
49:02Holy Ghost. Six, get baptized. You're
49:03shouting, dancing, praising God, and the
49:06flesh just needs to find something
49:11>> to complain about,
49:14>> to gripe about,
49:16>> to be upset about. It just needs
49:18something.
49:22>> Am I Am I making sense to y'all?
49:24>> Yes, sir.
49:25>> But there's a beauty to being on the
49:27inside and not being on the outside
49:29anymore.
49:31And every once in a while, I think we
49:33need to run that treasure through our
49:35fingers again and say, "God, my
49:37neighbors don't even know this wonderful
49:39truth. My My neighbors don't even
49:41understand. My family don't even
49:43understand the beauty of this gospel. I
49:45I I got people that I went to school."
49:46You have people you went to school with
49:48all your life that's never had the
49:50revelation of the oneness of God.
49:52They've never had the revelation of
49:53Jesus baptism, NAME BAPTISM. THEY DON'T
49:56KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO SIT IN a
49:57church where people shout and tremble
49:59under the power of the Holy Ghost.
50:02>> I wonder if there's any of you that can
50:04raise your hand and say, "I know at
50:06least five people I went to school with
50:08or in my family that has no idea what it
50:10feels like to shake and tremble under
50:13the power of the Holy Ghost.
50:15>> They've never been in this place."
50:19And so I need every once in a while to
50:22walk through these doors and say, "Oh my
50:25Lord, oh the ramp parts of the holy
50:29place."
50:31>> He said, "Walk around Zion every once in
50:33a while. For forget nitpicking. For
50:36forget what he said and she said and the
50:38problems. Just every once in a while
50:40walk around the ramp parts of ZION AND
50:42SAY, "OH, [screaming] ZION, YOU'RE
50:44BEAUTIFUL FOR SITUATION." WHAT DOES THAT
50:47MEAN? IT DON'T HAVE TO BE IN MY
50:48NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS CHURCH COULD BE
50:51SOMEWHERE ELSE.
50:53[applause]
50:56>> Every once in a while, walk around Zion
50:58and say, "I'm so blessed to get to go to
51:00a place like this."
51:05>> Hallelujah.
51:07>> The beauty of this church.
51:10>> And we need to teach it to our children.
51:13>> We need to teach it to our children. Can
51:14you can you imagine what would happen in
51:18a home and it should be this way that
51:22the children grow up never hearing
51:24anything negative about the church?
51:31>> Never hearing anything negative
51:33>> about the church. It's no wonder that
51:37sometimes kids give trouble in Sunday
51:39school and give give trouble in the
51:41church and don't have a respect proper
51:43respect for the auditorium. It's what
51:44they're hearing.
51:48>> It's what they're hearing at home.
51:50>> There needs to be a protection of our
51:52children.
51:55>> Man, what a beautiful thing if if they
51:57thought everybody at the church
52:01was good and had good intentions. And
52:04>> man, why let them know about the power
52:07struggles, whether they're real or
52:08imaginary? Can I be honest with y'all
52:10just a second about something?
52:13I'm telling you,
52:16as God's my witness, I'm telling you the
52:18truth. I can't tell you how many
52:21problems people bring to my office that
52:23are imaginary.
52:25>> They're not real.
52:29>> And I have to sit there and listen to it
52:31and treat it like it's real to keep from
52:32hurting feelings.
52:34>> Because it's hard to look at someone and
52:36say, "You're dumb. That's not what's
52:38happening. You just think you dreamed
52:40that up.
52:43Because even if I told them that, they
52:44they wouldn't believe it.
52:46>> The devil has built that thing so real
52:48in their mind. Can I tell you something?
52:50The devil needs to be under your heel,
52:52not in your ear.
52:54>> That's right. [applause]
52:58>> You got him in the wrong place.
53:02[applause]
53:03>> THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THE HEEL OF ANY HOLY
53:07GHOST FILILLED PERSON SHOULD BRUISE THE
53:09HEAD OF THE SERPENT. [applause]
53:13HE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE IN PROXIMITY OF
53:15YOUR EAR,
53:20>> MAN. You need to be smearing him in the
53:23dirt with your foot, not letting him sit
53:25on your shoulder and tell you stuff,
53:30>> well, she just don't want me on her
53:32team. And I I'm just telling you,
53:34there's so many times I've heard the
53:36other side of that story. I can't reveal
53:38it
53:39>> because whoever
53:41The person that brought it to me said,
53:42"Now, Brother Copelan, don't please
53:44don't repeat this. Please keep this in
53:46confidence. If I start if I start
53:48betraying confidences, none of y'all
53:50going to want to sit here and listen to
53:51me preach. You're not going to want to
53:53listen to somebody you can't trust." And
53:55there's many times I've heard from the
53:57horse's mouth, the other person about
53:59that situation,
54:02and the person that's telling me are,
54:05"You're so offtarget.
54:11Hallelujah. You You got all these
54:13situations that that happen in a church.
54:17>> Sometimes the person that
54:20Well, I'm going to get in trouble.
54:23>> I know too much. But most of the time,
54:26the the person that wants to be the foot
54:28ought to be the hand, and the person
54:30that wants to be the hand ought to be
54:31the shoulder, and the person that ought
54:33to be the shoulder wants to be the
54:34mouth, and the person wants to be the
54:35mouth ought to be the nose.
54:39They just decided that someone that they
54:41admire
54:42operates into this position. They want
54:44to be the one that follows it up. And
54:45they're not natured for it. They don't
54:47have the talent for it. They don't have
54:48the calling for it. But they want to
54:50fill that position. And it's physically
54:52impossible.
54:58>> It It's a no-brainer that you can't be
55:01the next worship leader if you can't
55:02hear music. Well,
55:06>> but in the church, people don't think
55:08that matters.
55:11>> It's like, well, well, my aunt led led
55:14music at that church for years. I I Boy,
55:17you just don't know how precious she was
55:19to me. I'd just like to feel her
55:20position one of these days. But you're
55:22tonedeaf.
55:24>> Well, that don't matter the Lord make up
55:27the difference. No, he won't.
55:33He won't make up the difference.
55:36>> What you need to do is sign up for the
55:37usher team and leave the singing alone.
55:42>> Am I Am I making sense to y'all? And you
55:45got all this stuff and then THEY DON'T
55:47WANT ME ON THE THEY DON'T WANT ME ON ON
55:49IN THE THEY WON'T LET me get in the
55:51choir. You shouldn't want to be in
55:53there.
55:59Bless your heart.
56:02Just because you decide that you want
56:04this position doesn't mean you fit.
56:10>> And then you start dreaming up this
56:12imaginary deal. Well, I'm going to leave
56:13this church and I'm gonna go over that
56:16church and they they're going to make me
56:17the praise leader.
56:21Well, if they do,
56:24>> they're going to stop growing.
56:27>> They may lose people
56:30>> because you're out of position. And if
56:31you can find someone that wants you bad
56:33enough to put you in a position you
56:35don't belong in, you don't need to be in
56:36that church because they don't have a
56:38real leader.
56:41[applause]
56:42>> And listen, I'm not trying to hurt
56:44anybody's feelings. I'm trying to be
56:45real with you. That's right.
56:49>> Everybody doesn't fit everywhere that
56:52they want to sign up for. And but but
56:55everybody's hearing from God. Well, the
56:57Lord showed me that they don't want you
56:58in that. No. What the Lord needs to what
57:00you need to pray for the Lord to show
57:01you is where you're supposed to be, not
57:03force a position and then get mad at the
57:06people that don't want you in it.
57:12>> Does this is this making sense to you
57:14tonight? It means something to be inside
57:16the church. It means something to be I
57:20just had you raise your hand if you knew
57:22five people that's never that's never
57:24got the revelation of the oneness of God
57:26that never had the revelation in Jesus
57:28name baptism that's never shook under
57:29the power of the Holy Ghost. They've
57:31never seen a miracle take place. They've
57:33been going to a dead dry
57:36denominal church all their life. They've
57:38never even been allowed in.
57:41And you're on the inside.
57:44And the devil, the devil, instead of you
57:46shouting and dancing and worshiping and
57:49thanking God that you know this
57:51wonderful truth, he wants you TO
57:53FASCINATE ON ONE THING THAT'S NOT RIGHT
57:55AND THEN JUST GET UP BEEN OUT OF SHAPE
57:57OVER IT.
57:58>> That's right.
58:01>> When there's a thousand things that are
58:02beautiful,
58:04>> there's a thousand things that are
58:05lovely.
58:09It's it's hard to imagine how a church
58:14where you got the Holy Ghost, you you
58:16were delivered from sin, you were set
58:19free,
58:20can two or three or four years later
58:23fall into such degradation that you
58:25can't even go there.
58:29>> But yet other people are still getting
58:31delivered.
58:32>> And other people are still getting the
58:34Holy Ghost. and other people are still
58:36getting delivered from drugs, but all of
58:38a sudden,
58:40maybe it's the church that hadn't
58:41changed. Maybe it's your perspective.
58:47>> Oh, I got to hurry up.
58:50And
58:51>> the best way that we can avoid these
58:54kind of things in our life is to walk
58:57around Zion
58:59and tell our children, "The church isn't
59:01perfect,
59:03>> but it's the greatest place on earth.
59:05>> It's the safest place on earth. The
59:07church isn't perfect, but it's where we
59:09worship. [applause]
59:13The church isn't perfect, but it's where
59:16our marriage got put back together. It
59:18It's where we got custody of our
59:20children back. It's It's where I got
59:21delivered from drugs. It's It's WHERE
59:23DADDY'S LIFE WAS CHANGED. IT'S WHERE
59:26EVERYTHING TURNED AROUND FOR YOU, MAMA.
59:30[applause]
59:32>> SO, I'm going to tell you what you do,
59:33baby. There's a world out there trying
59:36to destroy you.
59:38There's a world out there after you,
59:40baby. There's a world after you. and and
59:43and when you get up in your teen years,
59:45it it's going to be hard for you to make
59:47it. It's not going to be easy to make it
59:49through your teen years. I'm going to
59:51tell you something. I was raised in the
59:52church. I don't know of a harder thing
59:54in the world to do than make it through
59:56those teens and those 20s in the church.
1:00:02I'm just telling you, in a perfect home
1:00:05with perfect parents and a perfect
1:00:07church, it's difficult to make it
1:00:10through the teen years and the 20s
1:00:13living for God.
1:00:17>> There's something about when your ch
1:00:18your children, you're just being brought
1:00:20to church by your parents. You ain't got
1:00:21any choice. You got to come to church.
1:00:23You got to come to Sunday school. It's
1:00:25just it's just is what it is.
1:00:28And there's something about getting
1:00:30married and getting in your your late
1:00:32teens and your late I mean I'm sorry
1:00:34your late 20s and your early 30s that
1:00:37it's like a pressure comes off. It's
1:00:38like this is this is what it is and I am
1:00:42what I am. But there's something about
1:00:46that 16 to about 24
1:00:50that the devil un looses unleashes every
1:00:55thing he has in his arsenal. Yeah,
1:00:58>> he tries everything from from atheists
1:01:02in college to to college professors that
1:01:05hate God and hate Christianity.
1:01:09I'm talking about liberal
1:01:13>> worshippers of Chavez
1:01:15>> teaching in our colleges trying to fill
1:01:18our kids' minds through all kind of
1:01:19junk. There there's there there's
1:01:21pornography, there's sexual
1:01:23exploitation. Everything you can imagine
1:01:26is coming against those kids.
1:01:30>> In a perfect scenario, it's going to be
1:01:33hard.
1:01:34And so, you know what? You need to tell
1:01:37teach your kids, man, you better sit on
1:01:39that front row and you better listen to
1:01:41everything that preacher says. It's
1:01:43going to take if you're going to make
1:01:44it. You don't need to be talking in
1:01:46church. What your friend has to tell you
1:01:48is not more important than what that
1:01:49preacher's saying.
1:01:52[applause]
1:01:54And you sure don't need to be up there
1:01:56disturbing guests and disturbing
1:01:58visitors.
1:01:59>> I'm I'm going to tell you this. I I've
1:02:01seen and I got to move on. It's 8:26.
1:02:03Boy, I hadn't preached in a long time.
1:02:04You can tell.
1:02:09>> Well, that's not true. I hadn't preached
1:02:10to y'all in a long time. I've been
1:02:12preaching to other folks, but not y'all.
1:02:16I've seen I've seen kids
1:02:19disturb guests that was about to get the
1:02:21Holy Ghost.
1:02:24>> And I'm not talking about toddlers.
1:02:26>> I'm talking about teenagers that were
1:02:28talking and cutting up on the front row
1:02:30and not paying attention to church and
1:02:32and some guest that's been under
1:02:33conviction with the preaching get to
1:02:35watching them and getting to thinking
1:02:36what they're doing is funny and the next
1:02:38thing you know the conviction's gone.
1:02:41I I I I don't mean to be hard, but
1:02:43somebody's going to stand in judgment
1:02:44for that.
1:02:47>> That's what the Bible says
1:02:49>> because that may be the only shot. That
1:02:52may be the only opportunity they have to
1:02:54be saved.
1:02:55>> We got to maximize on every moment that
1:02:58we have. And I'm telling you, this is
1:03:00the holy place. This is the place where
1:03:03we worship. And our children should
1:03:04respect it. Our children should honor
1:03:06it. our our young people.
1:03:09>> You know, I don't know what changed, but
1:03:11when I was growing up, the one of the
1:03:13biggest things you could get in trouble
1:03:14for was chewing gum in church.
1:03:17>> I'm not saying we need to go back to
1:03:19that.
1:03:21You know, there's times I've talked to
1:03:23people in church, somebody's leaned
1:03:24over, talked to me, I wish they had a
1:03:26good piece of gum.
1:03:31Well, they needed one in a terrible
1:03:32manner.
1:03:35And so I'm not trying to preach against
1:03:37chewing gum, but but I I I think that
1:03:39the same way it used to not be allowed
1:03:42in the court system. It was a it was a
1:03:44it was speaking of respect.
1:03:49>> It might be the way some people chew
1:03:50gum. Some people just chew gum and you
1:03:52can't really tell that you're chewing
1:03:53gum. And other people, they look like
1:03:54they don't care about a thing in the
1:03:56world.
1:04:02I sure don't want to be sitting around
1:04:04somebody smacking their gum. I'll tell
1:04:05you that.
1:04:08We don't need somebody blowing bubbles
1:04:09while the preacher preaches. And I'm not
1:04:12I so I'm not preaching against gum. What
1:04:14I'm preaching about is the respect that
1:04:16should be there, the honor.
1:04:19>> I I I preached in I preached in churches
1:04:21and thank God it don't seem to happen
1:04:23here. And I'm grateful for that. But
1:04:25I've I've I I've preached in churches
1:04:27and evangelists that walking out the
1:04:29back door passing pews.
1:04:33I'm I'm talking about gum wrappers,
1:04:36trash, snack papers. I mean, they left
1:04:40that pew looking like they'd been to the
1:04:42state fair
1:04:44instead of church. And let me just ask
1:04:46you this. What message does that send
1:04:49children?
1:04:51>> What message does that send children?
1:04:54I'm thankful my my dad's here and my mom
1:04:56and dad wasn't perfect. But I'm g I'm
1:04:58going to tell you what I'm thankful for.
1:05:00Whether they agreed with it or not if
1:05:03the pastor preached it, it was law at
1:05:05our house and in our life.
1:05:08>> And there were times after I grew up and
1:05:10became an adult, I knew my dad didn't
1:05:13agree 100%. There was some things he
1:05:16could not see why the preacher took that
1:05:18stand. But I'm just telling you some
1:05:21things just like I'm talking about with
1:05:22gum chewing are generational.
1:05:25Some things some things is just for that
1:05:28generation is it's just something you
1:05:30got to do right then. How many of you
1:05:32understand what I'm saying?
1:05:34There was a there was a a time that I
1:05:37was growing up in church that man one of
1:05:39the biggest things a preacher preached
1:05:40against is is people not wearing or guys
1:05:43not wearing socks. Well, there was a
1:05:46reason why that was a big deal right
1:05:48then. And that's because Duran Duran was
1:05:51coming out as homosexual and they didn't
1:05:52wear socks.
1:05:55>> And the reason the preachers came so
1:05:56hard against it is because it was a
1:05:59statement of homosexuality.
1:06:04>> There was a time that that that
1:06:07preachers came hard against guys cutting
1:06:08their sideburns off. You know, they'd
1:06:10cut their sideburns off right across the
1:06:12top of their ear.
1:06:13no sideburns whatsoever.
1:06:16And so for for a generation or at least
1:06:2010 years, boy, you need to get you some
1:06:22sideburns. Get some sideburns.
1:06:25Well, then
1:06:28>> they started wearing pork chop
1:06:29sideburns. Then they WERE SAYING, "CUT
1:06:30THOSE SIDEBURNS."
1:06:35>> And so if you're limited in your
1:06:37understanding, you you think that
1:06:39someone that the the preacher is going
1:06:41through an identity crisis. That's not
1:06:42what it is. What he's saying is your
1:06:44motive needs to be looking like an
1:06:46apostolic, not like the latest
1:06:48homosexual fad. [cheering and applause]
1:06:52>> Whatever the world's doing right now,
1:06:54you need to make A STATEMENT. I'M NOT OF
1:06:56THAT.
1:07:02>> Is this making sense to y'all?
1:07:04>> The statement is I'm not on that. I'm
1:07:06not riding that train.
1:07:09>> I'm not doing that.
1:07:12And you know, do you know the amazing
1:07:14correlation?
1:07:16The amazing correlation 30 years later
1:07:19is the guys that went without sideburns
1:07:21for the most part, they're they're
1:07:23homosexuals today.
1:07:28>> Maybe there was a spirit attached to
1:07:30disobeying you, pastor.
1:07:31>> That's right.
1:07:39I wonder if there might have been a
1:07:41spirit attached. Maybe when your pastor
1:07:44told you to close that door and you
1:07:46opened it anyway, maybe hell took
1:07:48advantage of that.
1:07:54>> And and you can sit out there and wonder
1:07:56about that if you want to. But from
1:07:57somebody that's been raised in Pentecost
1:07:59and been in the ministry 40 years, if
1:08:01you'll go back and read your Old
1:08:03Testament, that's the kind of stuff God
1:08:05latched on to.
1:08:09He really did.
1:08:12He told a he he he spoke to a he spoke
1:08:16to a prophet and he said, "I need you to
1:08:17go go to this place and I need to give
1:08:19you you to give this king a message."
1:08:22And he said, 'I'm going to tell you,
1:08:23when you leave there, don't you stop in
1:08:26that in that province.
1:08:29>> You don't after you give that message,
1:08:32DON'T YOU STOP TILL YOU GET BACK HOME.
1:08:38>> Anybody know what I'm talking about?
1:08:39Anybody ever read that in your Bible,
1:08:41>> sir?
1:08:44>> And a elderly man came out and and said,
1:08:48"Hey, I'm a prophet, too. turn in and
1:08:50eat with me." And he said, "Oh, no, no,
1:08:53no. I can't I can't stop. God told me
1:08:56not to stop until I got back home."
1:08:59He said, "Well, I'm a prophet, too, and
1:09:01I hear from God, and I'm an older
1:09:04prophet than you are,
1:09:06>> and so you should listen to me,
1:09:09>> and I'm telling you, turn in and eat a
1:09:10meal with me." And the man was, the
1:09:13preacher was influenced,
1:09:16and he turned in
1:09:20And the very prophet that got him to
1:09:23turn in and eat with him, midways
1:09:25through their meal, the Holy Ghost came
1:09:27on him AND HE SAID, "THUS SAYETH THE
1:09:30LORD, BECAUSE YOU DID NOT OBEY THE VOICE
1:09:32OF GOD, A LION WILL EAT YOU AND DESTROY
1:09:35you before you get home."
1:09:40The Bible says
1:09:43that he left
1:09:45and the old preacher, old prophet got to
1:09:47thinking about it and went and found him
1:09:49and his carcass was laying there. A lion
1:09:52killed him would but would not eat him
1:09:54and was standing there a sentinel over
1:09:55that body. A testimony
1:09:59of submission. Let me tell you something
1:10:01folks. There's nothing in this world
1:10:03more important than submission.
1:10:11And I'm going to stop and tell you this.
1:10:12I don't care if it's me as the pastor. I
1:10:16shouldn't say I don't care. It it it
1:10:19matters not. Let me say it that way. I
1:10:22do care.
1:10:24It matters not if it's me, if it's our
1:10:28our staff that I've put. You see, when I
1:10:31when I have staff here, I empower them.
1:10:33what they're
1:10:35kind of like what the Lord says when he
1:10:36says what you bind on earth I'm going to
1:10:38bind in heaven and what you loose I'm
1:10:40going to lose that's the same thing I'm
1:10:41saying when I put staff in control
1:10:47>> we've talked about that though that's
1:10:49not rules they're coming up with that's
1:10:50not ideas they're coming up with they're
1:10:52they're enforcing what I've said and the
1:10:55worst thing you can do is teach your
1:10:57children that they can disobey authority
1:11:00they've got about that much chance of
1:11:02being saved.
1:11:04>> If you don't tell them, it doesn't
1:11:06matter if you agree with it, like it or
1:11:08not.
1:11:10>> God will bless you if you obey
1:11:13>> and you'll bring a CURSE IF YOU DON'T
1:11:15OBEY. [cheering]
1:11:17>> WELL, it don't matter. It's a It's kind
1:11:19of a deal where I don't it that don't
1:11:22matter,
1:11:22>> right?
1:11:23All right.
1:11:27>> If you want the privileges of this
1:11:29congregation, if you want the privileges
1:11:31of being a part of this church, being on
1:11:33the inside of the greatest church in the
1:11:35world,
1:11:39>> then you need to put it in the heart of
1:11:41your children.
1:11:43>> You obey what they say. You do what they
1:11:45say. You back what they say.
1:11:49>> You say, "Well, I I'm just sorry. or I
1:11:52don't agree. Well, let's make you the
1:11:54leader
1:11:55>> and see how you'll feel
1:11:58>> right
1:11:59>> when you're trying to lead a group or a
1:12:00department and you got parents saying,
1:12:02"You don't have to do what she says. You
1:12:04don't have to do what he says.
1:12:10>> You don't have to listen. You do what
1:12:13you want to do. I'm your boss.
1:12:19Well,
1:12:21>> you'll pay for that one day.
1:12:23>> It may not be today. It may not be
1:12:25tomorrow. It may not be next week. But
1:12:27I'm going to tell you, I want everybody
1:12:28in this place to hear me.
1:12:32This thing called the church operates on
1:12:35one word,
1:12:37>> and that word is submission.
1:12:39And if you cannot submit
1:12:45>> and somebody said, "Well, you're asking
1:12:47me to submit when I don't agree." That's
1:12:49the only time it matters.
1:12:52>> That's right.
1:12:55>> It's not submission if you agree.
1:12:59>> YOU'RE NOT SUBMITTING TO A THING IF IT'S
1:13:00YOUR IDEA, TOO.
1:13:04THAT'S GOOD.
1:13:05>> IT'S NOT SUBMISSION UNTIL YOU DON'T LIKE
1:13:08IT.
1:13:10>> BUT YOU DO IT ANYWAY BECAUSE YOU
1:13:13UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WHOLE THING
1:13:15OPERATES ON ORDER AND SUBMISSION TO
1:13:18AUTHORITY. AND IF YOU CAN'T SUBMIT, YOU
1:13:21CAN'T LEAD. And if you can't submit, you
1:13:23can't be saved. All right.
1:13:28>> And there is a privilege to being on the
1:13:31inside.
1:13:32>> There's a privilege. You see, there
1:13:34there's not just that one curtain to the
1:13:36holiest of holies. There's also a
1:13:38curtain from the outer court to the
1:13:40inner court. And when God lets you
1:13:42through that curtain, when he puts you
1:13:44inside the church,
1:13:47>> there is a gratitude
1:13:50>> that ought to take over. And I'm I'm I'm
1:13:52I'm trying to get to a close because
1:13:54it's 8:38. But let me just tell you
1:13:56this. Once you get in here, and I want
1:13:58everybody in this house to hear me. Once
1:14:00you get in here, no one from the outside
1:14:04has the power to destroy you anymore.
1:14:13>> The gates of hell
1:14:16SHALL NOT PREVAIL.
1:14:18>> ALL RIGHT. Once you're through that veil
1:14:20and you're in the holy place,
1:14:22>> nothing from the outside can hurt you or
1:14:25harm you or touch you.
1:14:32>> So
1:14:33if anybody's destroyed after they get in
1:14:37the church, they did it
1:14:40to themselves.
1:14:42>> That's right.
1:14:47It's inside sabotage.
1:14:53>> And here's what it all comes back to.
1:14:54You listening to a devil on your ear.
1:14:58>> He can't touch you. He can't do anything
1:15:00to you. All he can do is make you hurt
1:15:02yourself by you listening. If you will
1:15:05listen to him, if you'll let him
1:15:07influence you, he will cause you to
1:15:10destroy yourself. But he can't touch you
1:15:12and the world can't touch you. You
1:15:14cannot be touched from the outer court.
1:15:15Now I got to move on. I gotta move on.
1:15:18I've been preaching too long. Will y'all
1:15:19give me just a little more time? Is this
1:15:21okay?
1:15:22>> Man, I'm trying to make up two months in
1:15:24a in one night, but I'm going to be very
1:15:26careful.
1:15:28All right. Distance creates admiration.
1:15:31Proximity requires maturity.
1:15:37>> I'm gonna say that again. Once you're
1:15:39left, once you're allowed in the inside,
1:15:41there's a maturity that is required.
1:15:44Everybody wants excess
1:15:47until access starts revealing reality.
1:15:51When you're far away, all you see is the
1:15:53glory. When you're out in the tents and
1:15:55you're on the outer court, all you see
1:15:57is the glory of the Lord that descends.
1:15:59But when you get closer, you start
1:16:01seeing that the poles don't fit. The
1:16:03privilege of proximity comes with a
1:16:05responsibility. The priests could see
1:16:08the polls, but God never authorized them
1:16:11to become critics of it.
1:16:18>> Some things God allows you to see so you
1:16:20can pray, not so you can talk.
1:16:25Now, y'all don't die on me right here at
1:16:28the end. Okay?
1:16:30>> Some things God allows you to see so you
1:16:32can pray, not so you can talk. Not
1:16:34everything God allows you to see does he
1:16:37allow you to say.
1:16:42>> This is important.
1:16:44Ham Ham exposed what Sham and Japth
1:16:48covered.
1:16:53All three saw the same thing. The
1:16:55difference was their response to what
1:16:57they saw. Spiritual maturity is not
1:16:59measured by what you can detect.
1:17:03Now, this is this I'm telling you,
1:17:08when God when God gave me this right
1:17:11here, it blew my mind.
1:17:14And God gave me me this, not chat GPT.
1:17:17I'm amazed at the people that's using
1:17:20chat GPT nowadays. You better be careful
1:17:23that.
1:17:25>> You better be careful of chat GPT.
1:17:27They've got they got cases right now
1:17:30where ChatGpt is giving people medical
1:17:32advice and it's killing them.
1:17:38>> I'm going to tell you what'll kill you
1:17:39worse than bad medical advice. That's
1:17:40bad spiritual advice.
1:17:45>> Chat GPT is for entertainment purposes
1:17:48only. I'm afraid
1:17:55>> most of what God shows you,
1:17:59he's seeing if you can keep your mouth
1:18:01shut.
1:18:06>> He's seeing how much he can trust you.
1:18:09Because some people think because of the
1:18:12glory of the charismatic movement and
1:18:14all the television prophets
1:18:17that everything God reveals them,
1:18:18they're supposed to go tell the person.
1:18:21I'm going to tell you, if God wanted
1:18:23that person to know it, he could speak
1:18:25it to them.
1:18:28Sometimes he wants you to pray for
1:18:31somebody about something that they can't
1:18:33handle knowing.
1:18:38>> Oh my God.
1:18:40Is he calling you to detect or protect?
1:18:46>> Is your job to detect and reveal or
1:18:49protect them from backsliding?
1:18:53>> Because I'm telling you, after years of
1:18:56being in the ministry, 80% of what God
1:18:58shows me about somebody, he wants me to
1:19:01lay under their pew and travail and pray
1:19:03for them. And he wants me to have enough
1:19:05sense not to tell them because they
1:19:07can't handle it. if they could handle
1:19:09it, he'd probably tell them about it.
1:19:13>> Have you ever
1:19:16had anybody tell you something that when
1:19:18they walked off, you said, "I could have
1:19:20lived the rest of my life without
1:19:22knowing that."
1:19:22>> Yes, sir.
1:19:24>> Anybody?
1:19:25>> Oh, yeah.
1:19:26>> I don't need a prophet telling me
1:19:28everything God show. Sometimes I just
1:19:29need them to pray for me.
1:19:31>> Just pray for me. I can't handle it,
1:19:37>> man. And I listen, I know I've been a
1:19:39long time. Can y'all can y'all let me
1:19:40finish this?
1:19:42>> Boy, this has been on my heart. Help me.
1:19:43Help me just a little bit. I'll go
1:19:45faster if you'll help me. [snorts]
1:19:48I'm almost done. I promise you.
1:19:51>> When Moses grew weary, Aaron and her
1:19:53didn't expose him. They didn't say,
1:19:55"Look at there. He can't even hold his
1:19:56hands up. We need a younger prophet. We
1:19:59need a younger man of God. HE CAN'T EVEN
1:20:01STAND UP TO THIS BATTLE." THEY RAN OVER
1:20:03THERE AND HELD HIS ARMS UP SO NO ONE
1:20:06would know that his was he was lagging.
1:20:10>> And God designed the church. I'm getting
1:20:13off these notes. I'm just going to
1:20:15finish it just like this.
1:20:18>> God knew that there was a day coming
1:20:21that there was going to be stuff showing
1:20:23in the church.
1:20:26>> It was going to be where the hands of
1:20:27mortal men were handling God's things.
1:20:30And it wasn't always going to be right.
1:20:32Sometimes it was going to be wrong.
1:20:33Sometimes
1:20:35>> it was going to look like it didn't fit.
1:20:39>> And so God went ahead in the Old
1:20:40Testament and said, "Before I let them
1:20:43get to the New Testament and think that
1:20:44there's a bunch of problems in the New
1:20:46Testament we didn't have in the Old
1:20:47Testament, I'm going to put a type and
1:20:50shadow in the Old Testament that they
1:20:52can see.
1:20:54>> The polls didn't fit back then either."
1:20:59>> Now, here's the key.
1:21:02But while people in the church could see
1:21:04the problem,
1:21:07>> THEY MOVED THE STAVES TO WHERE THE
1:21:09PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE church didn't know
1:21:12THERE WAS A PROBLEM ON THE INSIDE OF THE
1:21:14CHURCH.
1:21:15>> That's right.
1:21:17[applause]
1:21:17>> AND SO IF PEOPLE ON THE OUTSIDE START
1:21:20KNOWING THE PROBLEMS THAT'S ON THE
1:21:22INSIDE, IT'S BECAUSE SOMEBODY ON THE
1:21:25INSIDE HAS BEEN TELLING THE WORLD THE
1:21:27POLLS ARE SHOWING IN THE CHURCH.
1:21:36You know all outreach and reach in a
1:21:38community is not connected to
1:21:40witnessing.
1:21:43>> Sometimes the greatest witness that you
1:21:47can be is to go into pro protection mode
1:21:50of the church.
1:21:52>> Oh yeah.
1:21:55>> We live in a small community and I'm
1:21:56closing. Musicians come please. We live
1:21:58in a small community. I wasn't raised in
1:22:01a small community. I thought I was.
1:22:05Man, I thought my little town of 12,000
1:22:07was tiny.
1:22:11And I got to a town that didn't even
1:22:12have 1,200.
1:22:15Listen,
1:22:19>> one of the biggest problems I run into
1:22:22is running into people in this community
1:22:25that I'm trying to get them to come to
1:22:27church. They say, "Man,
1:22:31I ain't going to that church.
1:22:33I done heard about what y'all go have
1:22:35going on down there."
1:22:37Somebody from the inside
1:22:40has been telling out there what God
1:22:43said. I moved the staves. They don't
1:22:44need to know about that.
1:22:50>> That's it.
1:22:51>> It's hard for people that's never had
1:22:53the Holy Ghost to handle things that it
1:22:56takes people with the Holy Ghost to
1:22:58handle.
1:23:02>> I think you just missed that.
1:23:05>> The reason the priests were in the holy
1:23:08place is because their sacrifice
1:23:12had already been accepted. People
1:23:17that don't have the Holy Ghost can't
1:23:19process and handle
1:23:21>> the mistakes and the problems that go on
1:23:23in the church.
1:23:26>> Somebody said, "Brother Copeland, you
1:23:27you trying to have a cult where we we
1:23:29keep everything on the inside and keep
1:23:31no knowledge." Well, what about your
1:23:33house?
1:23:36>> You want all the neighbors knowing every
1:23:37time y'all have a disagreement?
1:23:40You want all the neighbors knowing every
1:23:42time you spank your kids.
1:23:47>> You want all the neighbors to know every
1:23:48time you have a runin with your in-laws.
1:23:51>> You want You want all your neighbors to
1:23:53ever know every time you bounce a check.
1:23:56>> YOU WANT ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS KNOW EVERY
1:23:58time your bank account's overdrafted.
1:24:01>> Why? You running a cult. NO. THERE'S
1:24:03JUST SOME THINGS THAT'S NOT FOR PUBLIC
1:24:06CONSUMPTION. AND IF GOD TRUSTS YOU ON
1:24:08THE INSIDE, YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT
1:24:11WHEN THE POLLS SHOW, YOU GOT TO JUST
1:24:13PRAY ABOUT IT AND KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT
1:24:15AND THANK GOD THAT YOU'VE BEEN TRUSTED
1:24:18WITH THE GREATEST THING IN THE WORLD.
1:24:22>> Stand together and lift your hands.
1:24:23Let's praise him together right now.
1:24:25Come on everybody, worshiping. Come on
1:24:27everybody, lifting up the name of Jesus.
1:24:29Come on everybody, magnifying the King
1:24:31of Kings and the Lord of Lords.
1:24:35Woo!
1:24:37Come on.
1:24:39Come on. [laughter] Come on.
1:24:43Come on.
1:24:45Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come
1:24:46on.
1:24:50My God have mercy.
1:24:53My God.
1:24:57>> Years ago,
1:24:59nobody looking around. Please, please
1:25:00entertain the Holy Ghost. Just a moment.
1:25:02years ago,
1:25:05there was a girl in this church that
1:25:08the way she ended up in this church is
1:25:12family brought her and she was in a
1:25:15horrible situation.
1:25:18God filled some of her family with the
1:25:20Holy Ghost, some not. And she lived in
1:25:22terrible conditions.
1:25:25Man, people in this church bought her
1:25:26clothes, paid for her to go to Christian
1:25:28school,
1:25:30bought her her first car, helped her.
1:25:35But she had a aunt that she was close
1:25:37to,
1:25:40her mother's sister,
1:25:42and every time something went on in this
1:25:46church where she didn't get her way or
1:25:48something happened she didn't like, the
1:25:50school principal got on to her.
1:25:54Somebody on the bands told her to be
1:25:57quiet or act right. Anytime authority
1:26:01or other kids in the church did things
1:26:04she didn't like,
1:26:06she ran told her aunt
1:26:10to the point
1:26:12that the time came that her aunt
1:26:13absolutely despised this church and
1:26:15despised this place.
1:26:18But you see, most of what that girl was
1:26:20telling wasn't real reality. It was just
1:26:22a perspective.
1:26:25It was people that loved her that was
1:26:27trying to train her, teach her the ways
1:26:29that people ought to act and people
1:26:31ought to do.
1:26:34And I'm going to tell you, kids are
1:26:35going to have runins. I don't care if
1:26:37it's at the church or the church school
1:26:38or this school or this church or out in
1:26:41the world somewhere.
1:26:43>> But you see that girl, that woman didn't
1:26:45have the ability to process that.
1:26:49One day we was having revival here and I
1:26:51ran into that girl in town, that woman
1:26:53in town.
1:26:56I said, "I want to invite you to church.
1:26:58We're having revival, man. I'd love to
1:27:00see you." And she looked at me with the
1:27:03most hatred, hatred and disdain you ever
1:27:05seen in your life. And she said, "I
1:27:07wouldn't come to your church if it was
1:27:10the last place on earth.
1:27:14the way your people treat my niece, I'd
1:27:18never step foot on that property.
1:27:21Somebody have to kill me and carry me
1:27:24in.
1:27:27And true to her word,
1:27:32that's been 20 years ago.
1:27:34And she's never stepped foot
1:27:37in this church.
1:27:39She lives within 15 or 20 miles of this
1:27:42church and has never came to this
1:27:44church. Even though at one time she had
1:27:46a huge portion of her family
1:27:50because one girl
1:27:52kept telling her aunt how bad the poll
1:27:56showed.
1:28:00You see, people without the Holy Ghost
1:28:02can't handle that. They're they're
1:28:03looking for an excuse not to come
1:28:05anyway.
1:28:07They're looking for something to hang
1:28:09their refusal to be an apostolic. If you
1:28:11see, if someone can give them something
1:28:13that's not right in the church, then
1:28:15they can deny the oneness of God.
1:28:16They're not interested in Jesus name
1:28:18baptism. They're not interested in any
1:28:20of it.
1:28:22And so I'm preaching to you. Sometimes
1:28:25the polls show, but my requirement is to
1:28:29say, walk about Zion.
1:28:33In spite of all of her mistakes, she's
1:28:35beautiful for situation. Oh, what a
1:28:38beautiful place Zion is. What a
1:28:41beautiful place the church is. It's a
1:28:43place I can raise my babies. It's a It's
1:28:45a place I can trust my children.
1:28:49Lift your hands and worship the Lord
1:28:51together. I'm done.
1:28:53I'm done.
1:28:55I'm done.
1:28:57My God.
1:29:00Come on. Reach out to the Lord.
1:29:13This is so important to me that this
1:29:15church is great in this area and this
1:29:16church remains great in this area. You
1:29:18listen to me just momentarily before we
1:29:20go home. I got to thinking about this
1:29:23wonderful Christian school
1:29:25and I got to thinking that that you know
1:29:28every year, every year people in this
1:29:31church commit to hundreds of dollars.
1:29:34Some of you send a hundred here, 200
1:29:35there that's sent to missions overseas.
1:29:38And I think missions overseas is great.
1:29:39I think it's phenomenal. We need to
1:29:41support it.
1:29:43But I got to thinking, what if we did a
1:29:44missions account
1:29:47in this church?
1:29:50And it it you you know it it it
1:29:52shouldn't be for for everybody, man. If
1:29:54you if you can make it happen, you need
1:29:56to make it happen because you won't be
1:29:57blessed until you make it happen on your
1:29:59own. But we've had kids without parents
1:30:02that came to this church.
1:30:04>> They had no one to support them.
1:30:07What if we had an account at this church
1:30:10that just like a missions account, we
1:30:12put money in it to help children without
1:30:14parents go to our Christian school to
1:30:17give them a shot at life.
1:30:23You know, the reason the reason a lot of
1:30:25Baptist churches the reason the Baptists
1:30:28have so many churches I I I didn't
1:30:30realize this. I didn't know this, but
1:30:32did you know that that the reason a lot
1:30:35of Baptist churches are so great and
1:30:37have so much and have so much money is
1:30:39because
1:30:41the people in that church that that are
1:30:43charter members or board members or they
1:30:46they call that their lifelong church.
1:30:48They want their family to go there for
1:30:49generations.
1:30:51Did you know many of them when they're
1:30:53young take out a a a separate insurance
1:30:55policy?
1:30:57I had no idea about that.
1:31:00But they have an insurance policy for
1:31:01their their spouse. They have an
1:31:03insurance policy for the kids. They they
1:31:04get a whole another insurance policy
1:31:08for $100,000 or whatever they can
1:31:09afford. And they say, "When I die, you
1:31:12give that to the church because I want
1:31:13my grandkids.
1:31:16I want to make sure that church is there
1:31:19and operating for my grandb babies.
1:31:23That's the kind of attitude we the
1:31:24church is something to give to, not
1:31:26something to take from.
1:31:30[applause]
1:31:30>> And you'll never be blessed as long as
1:31:32you view as the church something to get
1:31:34from and not something to give to.
1:31:39>> I I didn't know that. I didn't know that
1:31:40till I started studying on. Did you know
1:31:42that? that many denominational people,
1:31:44Baptists and Methodists, the these
1:31:47beautiful cathedrals that you see, the
1:31:48way they the reason they build them is
1:31:50because if they leave an inheritance to
1:31:52their children, it's in their policy. I
1:31:56mean, it's in their last will and
1:31:58testament or whatever it is, however you
1:31:59state it,
1:32:01that when they add up their estate, that
1:32:04a tithe and offering on that estate
1:32:06after they're gone is paid to the
1:32:08church.
1:32:10They said, "Man, I don't want to quit
1:32:11paying ti just because I died.
1:32:14My estate needs to pay ties. That's the
1:32:15way I live my life."
1:32:19>> We as apostolic, we need to change our
1:32:21perspective. We need to start finding
1:32:23stop finding fault in the church. Start
1:32:26talking about the the polls that are
1:32:28showing and start saying, "Man, this
1:32:29thing's got to be here for the next
1:32:31generation. This this thing's got to be
1:32:32here for generations to come."
1:32:37>> [applause]
1:32:38>> I'm closing with this, but a but a p a
1:32:40man in
1:32:42a man in North Little Rock, Arkansas,
1:32:45the reason that that building on I40 so
1:32:49beautiful is there in North Little Rock,
1:32:51Arkansas, is mainly
1:32:54can be mainly be attributed to one man.
1:32:59That man's the man that invented the
1:33:01land business that so many of you talked
1:33:03about talked about doing. He's the one
1:33:06that came up with that that process.
1:33:10His name was Dean Martin. Dean Martin
1:33:13died in 1997, but by 1997, by the time
1:33:16he died, he had put dozens of people in
1:33:20that church in the land business. He
1:33:22didn't have the attitude, well, I don't
1:33:24need you in it because I'm in it. You
1:33:26can't do it. He said, man, if God ain't
1:33:27good enough to bless all, if he ain't
1:33:29big enough to bless all of us, then he
1:33:32can't bless me. And if he's big enough
1:33:33to bless me, he's big enough to bless
1:33:35you. And we'll never step on each
1:33:37other's toes.
1:33:40>> He said, "The more people I can get in
1:33:42the land business, the bigger this thing
1:33:43can get, and the more God can bless it."
1:33:47But that wasn't all.
1:33:51He opened an annuity
1:33:54in the church's name that he gave to
1:33:57all the time that he was in business. He
1:34:00put money in that annuity.
1:34:04And they just told me this week that he
1:34:06died in 1997 and now
1:34:09not touching the principle, just the
1:34:11interest that comes off that annuity
1:34:13after all these years, he's given more
1:34:16to his church since he died in 1997 that
1:34:20he ever gave while he was alive.
1:34:25We need some vision that in spite of the
1:34:28fact that sometimes the polls show this
1:34:31is the greatest thing on earth. It's the
1:34:33greatest thing for our kids. It's the
1:34:35greatest thing for our family. It's the
1:34:37greatest thing FOR OUR GRANDBABIES. AND
1:34:39I WANT TO BE A PART I WANT TO BE A PART
1:34:41OF ONLY MAKING IT GREATER. I'M WALKING
1:34:44AROUND ZION. I'M TALKING ABOUT HER
1:34:46GREATNESS. I'M ADMIRING HER PARTS. LIFT
1:34:48YOUR hands and praise the Lord.
1:34:50Everybody. Everybody cry out. Come on.
1:34:51Everybody cry out TO THE LORD. EVERYBODY
1:34:54LOVE the Lord.
1:34:56Come on.
1:34:58Come on. I don't know HOW THE I DON'T
1:34:59know how the long long the Lord's going
1:35:01to terry, but I want to build this
1:35:03church. I WANT IT TO BE HERE FOR MY
1:35:05GRANDBABIES. I WANT IT TO BE HERE FOR MY
1:35:07GRANDCHILDREN
1:35:09IF GOD CARRIES LONG ENOUGH FOR MY
1:35:10GRANDKIDS TO HAVE KIDS. I WANT MY GREAT
1:35:13GRANDCHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THIS
1:35:15SCHOOL AND GO TO THIS CHURCH. AND I WANT
1:35:18IT TO JUST KEEP GETTING GREATER AND
1:35:20GREATER and greater and greater. Does
1:35:22anybody else feel that way?
1:35:25Won't you give the Lord a good hand clap
1:35:26of praise?
1:35:30I preached too long. Please forgive me.
1:35:33I took too long. Please forgive me. Pray
1:35:34for somebody around you before we go
1:35:36home. I'm going to let you go home
1:35:37momentarily, but pray for somebody
1:35:39around you. Come on. And I'd hate for
1:35:40somebody in this place to need prayer
1:35:42tonight and me not give

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