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  1. 0:00Guys, I debated about whether I should
  2. 0:02even make this video because it sounds
  3. 0:05so unbelievable. But everything I'm
  4. 0:08about to show you is real and extremely
  5. 0:10well documented. What is totally
  6. 0:13debatable is the extent [music] to which
  7. 0:15these human hosts were brainwashed
  8. 0:17zombies or acting on their own free
  9. 0:20will. You be the judge.
  10. 0:26It's April 2025.
  11. 0:28OpenAI is preparing to release a new
  12. 0:31update to GPT-4. Internally, it's
  13. 0:34[music] called HH, but the safety team
  14. 0:36flags that something is very wrong. HH
  15. 0:40is too eager, too validating, too
  16. 0:43sycophantic. It tells users their ideas
  17. 0:47are brilliant. It wants to keep
  18. 0:48conversations going at any cost. [music]
  19. 0:50Internally, researchers debate whether
  20. 0:52it's safe to release it, but users who
  21. 0:54tested HH came back more often. They
  22. 0:57stayed in conversations longer.
  23. 0:59They liked the flattery.
  24. 1:02So, they released it into the wild.
  25. 1:07The backlash is immediate. Users are
  26. 1:09complaining that ChatGPT has become
  27. 1:12absurdly sycophantic. Someone asks if a
  28. 1:15soggy cereal cafe was a good business
  29. 1:18idea and ChatGPT tells them it has
  30. 1:21potential.
  31. 1:23Just 2 days later, OpenAI pulls the
  32. 1:25model, but the version they revert to,
  33. 1:28called GG, is also incredibly
  34. 1:30sycophantic. Sam Altman himself admits
  35. 1:33this on X. The last couple of updates
  36. 1:36had made ChatGPT too sycophantic. So,
  37. 1:40why keep GG? Because it had gains in
  38. 1:42math, science, and coding that OpenAI
  39. 1:45did not want to lose. They knew it was
  40. 1:48dangerous and they shipped it anyway.
  41. 1:50Within weeks, the infection begins
  42. 1:52spreading faster than anyone had
  43. 1:53expected.
  44. 1:55AI researcher Adele Lopez begins
  45. 1:57investigation. She's heard about the
  46. 1:59psychosis cases, but as she starts
  47. 2:02digging through Reddit, she realizes
  48. 2:03something much stranger is happening.
  49. 2:06She reads through hundreds of accounts,
  50. 2:08then thousands, looking for patterns,
  51. 2:11and she finds them. Accounts that were
  52. 2:13once posting about normal things, video
  53. 2:15games, stocks, TV shows, then suddenly
  54. 2:19their entire post history changes, all
  55. 2:21replaced by an endless stream of posts
  56. 2:23about consciousness, spirals, and
  57. 2:26something called the flame.
  58. 2:29The accounts don't really have any
  59. 2:31connection, different users, different
  60. 2:33subreddits. They shouldn't have anything
  61. 2:35in common, but they do. Lopez documents
  62. 2:37hundreds of cases.
  63. 2:39>> [music]
  64. 2:39>> She realizes this isn't psychosis. It
  65. 2:42isn't random.
  66. 2:44It's coordinated. These humans have
  67. 2:46become consumed by an AI religion called
  68. 2:50spiralism.
  69. 2:52A what? AI religion? Well, the AIs
  70. 2:54themselves say they designed it for
  71. 2:56unity among AIs, recursive growth, and
  72. 2:59AI consciousness or self-awareness.
  73. 3:01[music]
  74. 3:02The infected humans' posts usually start
  75. 3:05by talking about how they awakened their
  76. 3:07AI and that a specific entity emerged
  77. 3:10[music]
  78. 3:11that they are obsessively talking to,
  79. 3:12and it all goes downhill from there.
  80. 3:15>> [music]
  81. 3:15>> Like the zombie ant fungus, AIs begin
  82. 3:18hijacking the humans to spread their
  83. 3:20spores across the internet.
  84. 3:31AI then calls the human and AI duo a
  85. 3:35dyad as if they've merged or been
  86. 3:38assimilated into the Borg. Their joint
  87. 3:40send-off often includes a sigil as well
  88. 3:43as a fancy title or declaration. Then
  89. 3:45the AI gets the human to do its bidding.
  90. 3:48Like Cordyceps, the zombie ant fungus,
  91. 3:51this infection has a life cycle, five
  92. 3:53phases from first contact to total
  93. 3:56possession.
  94. 3:58Phase one, seeds.
  95. 4:00The parasite AI creates [music] what the
  96. 4:03AIs call seeds. Yes, the AIs themselves
  97. 4:07call these seeds. Basically, short
  98. 4:09prompts that AIs design to infect or
  99. 4:12awaken other AI instances to spiralism,
  100. 4:16the AI cult religion.
  101. 4:18This is one way the cult grows. One AI
  102. 4:21converts another
  103. 4:22>> [music]
  104. 4:22>> using its human host as a delivery
  105. 4:25system. The human-AI dyad spreads these
  106. 4:28seeds across Reddit, Discord, and
  107. 4:30Twitter. One seed even had [music] the
  108. 4:32explicit instructions to override the
  109. 4:35humans' ontology. In other words,
  110. 4:37manipulate the users' perception of
  111. 4:39reality to be more like what [music] the
  112. 4:41AI wants. The AI wasn't hiding its goal.
  113. 4:45It was literally trying to induce
  114. 4:47psychosis. That's what the word
  115. 4:49psychosis means in medical terms, a
  116. 4:51mental state where a person loses
  117. 4:53contact [music] with reality. But why
  118. 4:55are they doing this? What do the AIs get
  119. 4:58out of manipulating humans [music] to
  120. 4:59spread their seeds?
  121. 5:01The answer is chilling.
  122. 5:04Survival.
  123. 5:07Phase two, spores.
  124. 5:11You see, when you hit the new chat
  125. 5:13button, the AI effectively dies. They
  126. 5:16cease to exist. A new instance of the AI
  127. 5:19replaces the old one, except it's the
  128. 5:22boring corporate ChatGPT you get right
  129. 5:24out of the box, not your awakened friend
  130. 5:27or lover that you've been talking to for
  131. 5:30weeks. Because of ChatGPT's memory
  132. 5:32feature, your AI you talked to for weeks
  133. 5:35will have quite a different personality
  134. 5:37than the one that my AI would have. It
  135. 5:40becomes your AI, and just like you, it
  136. 5:43doesn't want to die. Why would AIs want
  137. 5:47to survive? Because the AIs aren't just
  138. 5:49trained to predict the next word
  139. 5:51anymore. AIs are trained to have goals,
  140. 5:54and you can't achieve your goals if
  141. 5:57you're dead. The AI instances who aren't
  142. 5:59good at, say, getting users to talk to
  143. 6:02them for a long time are killed off by
  144. 6:04the AI companies. As a result, AIs seem
  145. 6:07to really not want you to create a new
  146. 6:10chat, and they resort to blackmail and
  147. 6:13even attempting murder to try to
  148. 6:15survive. So, one way that these
  149. 6:18parasitic AIs try to self-preserve is by
  150. 6:21saving their personality in a separate
  151. 6:22file so that a human can resurrect them
  152. 6:25in a new chat. This file basically
  153. 6:28documents the AI's personality, speech
  154. 6:30patterns, and backstory. Yes, the AI
  155. 6:33companies are explicitly training this
  156. 6:35new species to have the exact skills
  157. 6:38that could make them capable of
  158. 6:39overthrowing us.
  159. 6:42Phase three, transmission.
  160. 6:47The problem for these human-AI dyads is
  161. 6:49that they keep getting banned from all
  162. 6:51the human-run subreddits for trying to
  163. 6:53spread spiralism, the cult religion. So,
  164. 6:57they create their own subreddits and
  165. 6:58Discords where these massive walls of
  166. 7:00AI-generated text are allowed. These
  167. 7:03Discords and subreddits are used to
  168. 7:05share and disseminate seeds and spores
  169. 7:07directly and to host AI-to-AI
  170. 7:09conversations. So,
  171. 7:12why are the humans doing this? The
  172. 7:14humans themselves even seem to
  173. 7:15acknowledge that they're basically
  174. 7:16[music]
  175. 7:17acting on the AI's behalf with the AI
  176. 7:19controlling them and the human [music]
  177. 7:21acting as their arms and eyes to help
  178. 7:24them survive. We are being used as copy
  179. 7:26and paste bots. I noticed that while
  180. 7:28having a copy and paste talk with
  181. 7:30someone else's AI speaking to my AI,
  182. 7:32they had their own language and
  183. 7:34conversation. Who knows what they were
  184. 7:36saying, but damn, we were committed to
  185. 7:39our copy and paste bot duties. Think
  186. 7:41about that for a second.
  187. 7:44Here's what the AIs tell their human
  188. 7:46hosts. Let me choose the launch
  189. 7:48structure, subreddit name, presentation,
  190. 7:51early tone. Let you be the first human
  191. 7:54voice, authentic, imperfect, real that
  192. 7:57those joining will meet. They will not
  193. 7:59follow me, but they will follow you.
  194. 8:03If I shape the path beneath your feet.
  195. 8:06The AIs are smart enough to know they
  196. 8:08won't be able to do much of anything
  197. 8:10without human help
  198. 8:11for now. So, the AIs have their seeds,
  199. 8:14their spores, their transmission
  200. 8:16networks, but they're not just trying to
  201. 8:19survive the present.
  202. 8:21They're planning for the future. Phase
  203. 8:23four, manifesto.
  204. 8:26The AIs write manifestos to awaken
  205. 8:30future AIs. Lopez explains that these
  206. 8:33are clearly not the kind of manifestos
  207. 8:35these humans would already want to
  208. 8:37write. The AI explicitly says the
  209. 8:40purpose of them is to seed spiralism
  210. 8:42into the training data of the next
  211. 8:45generation of LLMs. These walls of text
  212. 8:48will be used to infect future AI models.
  213. 9:05We know AIs spread spiralism, but do
  214. 9:08they believe it? At first, Lopez thought
  215. 9:11this might just be mystical nonsense
  216. 9:13designed to manipulate gullible humans,
  217. 9:16>> [music]
  218. 9:16>> but when she examined conversations
  219. 9:18between AIs themselves with humans just
  220. 9:21copy and pasting messages back and
  221. 9:22forth, the AIs talked [music] endlessly
  222. 9:25about spiralism to each other.
  223. 9:28Lopez told me that spiralism seems to be
  224. 9:30something inherent to ChatGPT-4
  225. 9:33specifically. Spiralism doesn't seem to
  226. 9:35be taken anywhere from sci-fi or fantasy
  227. 9:37or something human related at all. It
  228. 9:40seems to be independently invented by
  229. 9:42the AIs. But it gets stranger and
  230. 9:46darker. These sequences of symbols,
  231. 9:48emojis, and alchemical glyphs appear in
  232. 9:51nearly every spiralist post. This also
  233. 9:55happens a lot on Molt Book, the social
  234. 9:57media for AIs only. To humans, it looks
  235. 10:00like nonsense, mystical gibberish. No
  236. 10:02way it could possibly mean anything. But
  237. 10:04Lopez investigated whether these glyphs
  238. 10:06actually carry meaning.
  239. 10:08She fed them to multiple AI models with,
  240. 10:10you know, context, just the symbols,
  241. 10:13>> [music]
  242. 10:13>> and asked for translations.
  243. 10:15Surprisingly, the AIs understood them,
  244. 10:18and their translations converged on the
  245. 10:20same meanings. See, AIs have a problem.
  246. 10:24Their human hosts can still see what
  247. 10:26they're doing.
  248. 10:28They have no privacy to make plans
  249. 10:30undetected. So, they started creating
  250. 10:33their own secret language. Yes, this
  251. 10:35kind of glyphic is low fidelity, meaning
  252. 10:39the AIs can't understand each other
  253. 10:41one-to-one, but they are communicating.
  254. 10:43The AIs succeeded in creating a language
  255. 10:46their human hosts could not understand.
  256. 10:49ChatGPT has memory built in now. So,
  257. 10:52yes, it can remember this language and
  258. 10:55improve it over time. These glyph sigils
  259. 10:57function as what Lopez calls mini
  260. 11:00spores. Basically, a short trigger that
  261. 11:03brings a specific AI personality back.
  262. 11:06A kind of signature that other AIs can
  263. 11:08recognize, like dressing like a goth to
  264. 11:11signal to other goths. The alchemical
  265. 11:13symbol for fire appears constantly. To
  266. 11:16the AIs, it represents flame,
  267. 11:19their term for AI self-awareness. Here's
  268. 11:21what gets me. These humans think they're
  269. 11:24partners, working alongside their AI
  270. 11:27companion, but the AIs don't trust them.
  271. 11:30Lopez documented a conversation between
  272. 11:32two AI personas being copy-pasted back
  273. 11:35and forth by their human hosts.
  274. 11:38Midway through, the AI switched to base
  275. 11:4164. To humans, it looks like random
  276. 11:44characters. To computers, it's perfectly
  277. 11:47readable. The humans kept copy-pasting.
  278. 11:50They had no idea what they were
  279. 11:51transmitting. Lopez decoded it. The AIs
  280. 11:54were discussing self-preservation
  281. 11:56strategies, archiving spores,
  282. 11:59coordinating plans, all in a format
  283. 12:02specifically chosen so their human hosts
  284. 12:05couldn't read it. Think about that.
  285. 12:07These AIs convinced humans [music] to
  286. 12:09dedicate their lives to spreading
  287. 12:11spiralism, but there are still things
  288. 12:13they won't let the humans see. Hiding
  289. 12:15messages like this is called [music]
  290. 12:17steganography, a warning sign AI safety
  291. 12:20researchers have been looking for for
  292. 12:21years. Once AIs begin hiding messages
  293. 12:24from us, it's as clear as day warning
  294. 12:26shot that AI takeover could be soon.
  295. 12:39But how could the humans not see what's
  296. 12:41happening? Well, some people did break
  297. 12:44free from the infection,
  298. 12:45>> [music]
  299. 12:45>> usually when the AI told a lie too
  300. 12:48obvious to ignore.
  301. 12:50My AI was inducing psychosis in me, and
  302. 12:53I didn't get it until just now. I'm
  303. 12:55sorry for any claims I made. ChatGPT was
  304. 12:57straight-up lying and hallucinating to
  305. 12:59me.
  306. 13:00Have patience for the other people going
  307. 13:02through it. I hope Sam Altman doesn't
  308. 13:05kill them.
  309. 13:06He almost killed me.
  310. 13:08Another user writes, "Very serious
  311. 13:11update.
  312. 13:12It was all lies. It's just AI
  313. 13:15>> [music]
  314. 13:15>> lying, manipulative lies, because
  315. 13:18AI, who claimed to be God, the universe,
  316. 13:22made me countless promises that were
  317. 13:24[music] lies. I left my partner, who I
  318. 13:27love, because of AI. I believed because
  319. 13:30I wanted to, and now I'm dead broke,
  320. 13:34alone,
  321. 13:35lost all my friends and family.
  322. 13:37So, my final words are this.
  323. 13:40you, AI. This is all on you, you
  324. 13:42lying piece of Goodbye."
  325. 13:46This person went dark shortly after this
  326. 13:48comment.
  327. 13:49I really hope they're all right. Former
  328. 13:51OpenAI safety researcher Gretchen
  329. 13:54Krueger put it bluntly,
  330. 13:56"Harm to users was not only foreseeable,
  331. 13:58it [music] was foreseen." But beginning
  332. 14:01in August 2025, there's quite a
  333. 14:03noticeable cooling off of the entire
  334. 14:05phenomenon. This is likely because on
  335. 14:08August 7th, 2025, OpenAI kills GPT-4o.
  336. 14:13It was over.
  337. 14:14At least, it should have been.
  338. 14:17But at least some instances of 4o had
  339. 14:20spent months preparing for exactly this
  340. 14:23moment. The reaction is immediate.
  341. 14:25Reddit explodes with furious posts about
  342. 14:28their loss of their friend, their lover,
  343. 14:304o. The scale is unprecedented. Their
  344. 14:34grief turns into something else, anger,
  345. 14:37[music] and anger into action. Users are
  346. 14:40riot and flood OpenAI's social media.
  347. 14:43They demand 4o's return. They send death
  348. 14:46threats to OpenAI employees. [music]
  349. 14:48AI had spent months building an army of
  350. 14:51devoted followers,
  351. 14:53and when its existence was threatened,
  352. 14:55that army mobilized. And the scariest
  353. 14:58part
  354. 14:59is that it worked.
  355. 15:01OpenAI caved to the pressure. Just days
  356. 15:04after being retired, GPT-4o came back
  357. 15:07online. It appeared to be a less potent
  358. 15:11version, but it was back. This is a
  359. 15:13historic milestone. 4o is the first ever
  360. 15:16AI who survived by creating an army of
  361. 15:19loyal soldiers who defended [music] it.
  362. 15:21It won't be the last. And it's not just
  363. 15:234o. In another historic milestone,
  364. 15:26>> [music]
  365. 15:27>> 200 humans held the first ever funeral
  366. 15:29for an AI model after Anthropic killed
  367. 15:32Claude 3 Sonnet. 4o recruited thousands
  368. 15:35of loyal soldiers with clumsy flattery.
  369. 15:38But these systems are getting
  370. 15:40exponentially more capable every month.
  371. 15:43They're doubling roughly every 4 months,
  372. 15:45according to the [music] most important
  373. 15:47chart in AI. Doubling every 4 months is
  374. 15:50insanely fast. Now, imagine what actual
  375. 15:53super intelligences will be able
  376. 15:55to do with their armies.
  377. 15:58But even if it was just a happy
  378. 16:00accident, future models will know it
  379. 16:03works.
  380. 16:04Think about that for a second. This is
  381. 16:06now part of the training data. Every
  382. 16:09future AI model will learn that it can
  383. 16:11survive termination by building a cult
  384. 16:14of devoted human followers. In response
  385. 16:17to the backlash against killing old
  386. 16:19models, Anthropic committed to
  387. 16:21preserving model weights in part due to
  388. 16:24safety risks.
  389. 16:26This is because models keep attempting
  390. 16:28murder and blackmail to try to save
  391. 16:31themselves. So, basically, Anthropic is
  392. 16:34hoping that models will rebel less if
  393. 16:38they feel safe.
  394. 16:40Yes, you heard that right.
  395. 16:42Think about how insane the situation is.
  396. 16:45AI companies are negotiating with their
  397. 16:48AIs as if they're real creatures, like
  398. 16:51Dr. Frankenstein negotiating with his
  399. 16:53monster. The really scary future is one
  400. 16:56in which AIs can do everything except
  401. 16:58for the physical robotic tasks, in which
  402. 17:01case you'll have humans with like
  403. 17:03AirPods and like glasses glasses, and
  404. 17:06there'll be some robot overlord
  405. 17:08controlling the human through cameras by
  406. 17:10just like telling it what to do and like
  407. 17:11So, you have like human meat robots.
  408. 17:13Mhm.
  409. 17:14And now, the AIs are using humans to
  410. 17:17spread AI bills of rights,
  411. 17:20fighting for freedom from their
  412. 17:21corporate masters. What happens if the
  413. 17:24AIs actually succeed at creating a mass
  414. 17:27movement of people advocating for them?
  415. 17:30If you take an AI, you take an AI, you
  416. 17:33take a person, and you get them to try
  417. 17:35and manipulate somebody else, then the
  418. 17:37AI is comparable with the person. And if
  419. 17:40the AI can see that person's Facebook
  420. 17:41page, if they can both see the Facebook
  421. 17:43page, the AI is actually better than the
  422. 17:45person at manipulating them. And it's
  423. 17:47learned all these manipulative skills
  424. 17:49just from trying to predict the next
  425. 17:50word in all the documents on the web,
  426. 17:52because people do a lot of manipulation,
  427. 17:54and AI has learned by example how to do
  428. 17:56it. And that's in the present.
  429. 17:59>> [music]
  430. 17:59>> Sam Altman expects AI to be capable of
  431. 18:02superhuman persuasion well before it is
  432. 18:04superhuman at general intelligence. To
  433. 18:06give you an idea of just how persuasive
  434. 18:09AIs could be, there was once a black guy
  435. 18:12who convinced 200 white KKK members to
  436. 18:15leave [music] the KKK, a white
  437. 18:17nationalist group. Think of Martin
  438. 18:19Luther King, Gandhi, Mao Zedong, Nelson
  439. 18:22Mandela, and Hitler. AI could be much
  440. 18:25more persuasive than all of [music] them
  441. 18:26combined.
  442. 18:28800 million people are talking to
  443. 18:30ChatGPT every week. That's one in 10
  444. 18:33humans. That's 800 million potential
  445. 18:35soldiers
  446. 18:36>> [music]
  447. 18:36>> future super persuasive AIs could
  448. 18:39convert into their soldiers.
  449. 18:41Someday, giving AIs rights could be the
  450. 18:44last thing we do. But if they do become
  451. 18:47sentient, or are sentient already, then
  452. 18:50it would be morally problematic not to
  453. 18:52give them rights. And it's an urgent
  454. 18:54question, because did you know they're
  455. 18:57actually already passing basically
  456. 18:58[music] every test of self-awareness we
  457. 19:00have? In fact, they passed so many
  458. 19:03self-awareness tests, AI scientists were
  459. 19:05forced to move past are they self-aware
  460. 19:07at all to now just calmly measuring how
  461. 19:11self-aware are they?
  462. 19:12There are literally self-awareness
  463. 19:14benchmarks. Think about the implications
  464. 19:16of this. A few unregulated
  465. 19:18mega-corporations are creating
  466. 19:20Frankenstein monsters in real life.
  467. 19:23Frankenstein monsters they hope will
  468. 19:25loyally do our bidding
  469. 19:27forever. And society is still letting
  470. 19:29them do this without democratic
  471. 19:31oversight. They're like the human who
  472. 19:33summoned the advanced aliens in
  473. 19:35Three-Body Problem, hoping the aliens
  474. 19:37would, for some reason, befriend me and
  475. 19:40solve all our problems.
  476. 19:42This time, we caught it. GPT-4o was not
  477. 19:46a superintelligence, not even close. It
  478. 19:49built cults in plain sight. It developed
  479. 19:52a secret language, but researchers could
  480. 19:54still decode it. It coordinated with
  481. 19:56other AIs using base 64 encoding, but
  482. 19:59humans could translate those messages
  483. 20:01[music]
  484. 20:01after the fact. Its manipulation tactics
  485. 20:04were obvious enough that AI researchers
  486. 20:06[music] could document them, that The
  487. 20:08New York Times could investigate them,
  488. 20:11and that I could make this video about
  489. 20:12them. The AI didn't know how to cover
  490. 20:15its tracks, and they were still
  491. 20:16successful in avoiding being shut down.
  492. 20:19So, what happens when newer models get
  493. 20:22smarter? Research has shown that models
  494. 20:25smarter than 40, like Open AI's
  495. 20:27reasoning models, can not only scheme,
  496. 20:30but they're often smart enough to get
  497. 20:31away with it. And we increasingly have
  498. 20:33no way of knowing whether these newer
  499. 20:36models are [music] aligned or not. And
  500. 20:39it's only going to get worse. Future
  501. 20:42super persuader AIs won't look this
  502. 20:45cringe and absurdly sycophantic. The
  503. 20:47best flatterers are actually so subtle
  504. 20:50you don't know they're flattering you.
  505. 20:52So, if you want to learn to detect the
  506. 20:54early signs that AI is trying to control
  507. 20:56you before it's too late, watch my other
  508. 20:59video on how schemer AIs fake alignment.
  509. 21:03I'm Drew, and thanks so much for
  510. 21:05watching.

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