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0:00You've not been able to soak in the
0:01environment.
0:02>> Yeah. Yeah. 2017 World Cup final. I was
0:048 19 year old. I never knew what to do.
0:06I just went to B. Saw that first time
0:08women's cricket had 20 odd,000 people
0:11and that's my first match at Lords. I
0:13went and the third ball is like zero out
0:17till I realized what's happening. I was
0:19already out.
0:20>> You were not focused on the batting. You
0:21were focused on like
0:23>> I wouldn't say I was focused that it's
0:25just that even if you're not focusing
0:27it, I feel it's more than avoiding it.
0:29you should just embrace it. At that time
0:31I was avoiding it.
0:33>> Today's guest Summiti Mandana, one of
0:35the biggest stars in Indian cricket. She
0:37opens up about the sacrifices behind
0:39success, bouncing back from failure,
0:42handling expectations and constantly
0:45pushing herself to become better.
0:47>> Okay, take me on the day of final match
0:50of the World Cup. You have to walk me
0:52through that day. Like
0:52>> morning I wake up for breakfast as
0:55usual. Everyone's families were there.
0:57Indian cricket family went back did my
0:59mobility routine ground mal it's a
1:01walking distance that we stayed at but I
1:03like 10 minutes drive to the stadium so
1:05for DIY patel matches I used to start
1:07listening to songs on airports in room
1:09only
1:10>> so that song I s Indian entry song tuan
1:13was my go-to song for a very long time
1:15so first I enter I like kind of see and
1:18I just try and soak it in and be
1:20comfortable around it because once
1:21you're comfortable you just feel like
1:23okay it's your space I have that routine
1:25touch the down. Go sideways twice,
1:28sideways this twice, three back flips,
1:30look at the sun just near the 23 ys.
1:33Like just do that.
1:34>> You have a 30inut rule.
1:35>> Yeah, it's a 30-minut rule. Like I
1:37wouldn't dwell on anything in life, not
1:39only cricket. Anything in life 30 40
1:41minutes.
1:43>> I think I've got up done.
1:46>> Let me name like top emotion. Can you
1:48tell me what you feel about them? Like
1:49what do you think about anger?
1:51If you get angry, you could talk
1:53something which would hurt the other
1:54person a lot. So rather than hurting
1:57that person, just be quiet.
1:58>> How do you feel about sad as an emotion?
2:00>> For me, I feel I just go quiet for a
2:02very long time. I hate sympathy. Any
2:04sort of sympathy.
2:07I'm fine. Even if I've got I've had a
2:09bad World Cup. Don't look at me as I
2:12don't like to portray myself. I'm
2:14strong.
2:14>> When was the last time you cried?
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3:31>> Okay. So let let me show you two
3:33pictures and you tell me what has
3:34changed.
3:36hairstyle or
3:40hairstyle or
3:43there you go.
3:43>> Oh, so these are two different eras of
3:47smiti. Okay, this is you when you
3:50started or probably little after that
3:53and then this is you right now. Tell me
3:55just the differences and I'll write
3:56down.
3:57>> Oh,
3:57>> what are the differences
4:00between
4:02the KDU versus who you are right now?
4:08Interesting. I'm thinking loved batting.
4:10Loved batting.
4:12>> Don't tell me the similarities. We
4:14covered that.
4:17>> Maybe I was very organized and
4:19disciplined. This person is not that
4:22organized and disciplined.
4:26>> I feel
4:27>> I you know somehow I prefer my younger
4:29self more than my self.
4:30>> Why would you say so? I feel I was a lot
4:33like a confident extra confident kid. I
4:36had like I'll show you like you know I
4:38was a very
4:40like I would fight with anyone and fight
4:43with anyone and I would like show the
4:45world like what it is kind of a person I
4:47was like fight with guys get my work
4:50done.
4:53And you know I was again very organized,
4:55disciplined, very clean and neat and
4:58this person is not I would say he's
5:02doing the same thing now.
5:04>> What has changed? What has how is this
5:07person today not organized at all?
5:09>> I try and be but see we are traveling 11
5:12months. It's so hard.
5:14>> It's literally very hard to be very
5:16organized with your stuff. You're
5:18packing. You're literally living in a in
5:20a bag.
5:21>> So, you just crush everything in a bag.
5:22>> No, no, no. I pack properly.
5:24>> Okay.
5:24>> But I wouldn't say like my room would be
5:27really really clean after a day or two.
5:29Like again, it's not the worst. I have
5:32seen like I've seen a lot of people who
5:34are worse.
5:34>> Okay.
5:35>> But I'm not worst. But this person was
5:37like school
5:40subjects that seven books lines subject
5:44wise
5:45like iron your own uniform, polish your
5:48shoes and keep like this was like ultra.
5:52I'm not saying I'm bad now, but this was
5:54like too much of a perfectionist.
5:57>> So this is maybe not. Now my mom always
5:59says
6:01perfectionist, confident and what else?
6:04deep questions.
6:11If you speak to my friends, they would
6:12come and be like, "You're doing a
6:14podcast with Smitty. Are you mad?"
6:18That time I'm using my brother's bad. I
6:20think it's bad. It's not even my size.
6:21Look at my tiny hands and the bat size.
6:24This is my own bat made for me specially
6:26with sponsors on it. It's a good change.
6:29>> It's a very good change.
6:30>> It's a good change for women's cricket.
6:32I feel it's not only change good change
6:34for me. I think it's a good change for
6:35women's cricket to have this virgin now.
6:39>> Yeah.
6:41>> And yeah, I don't know. I mean otherwise
6:44I think pretty simil like chill only.
6:46I'm chill. I'm still chilling. Still
6:48scared of boo still scared of booth.
6:52>> That's the similarity. So you you
6:54pointed out three specific things. Okay.
6:56Clearly you wanted to win and you're
6:58winning. You still want to win. I'm sure
7:01that those things have not changed.
7:03>> Those things those things ambition will
7:05keep probably you're more ambitious now
7:06than you were because you must have
7:08realized
7:09>> the power of ambition and what you can
7:10achieve.
7:11>> Yeah. Yeah. I believe in manifestation a
7:13lot and I believed I I think I watched
7:16the video like the secrets. I don't
7:18Yeah. So I I am a big big believer of
7:21that.
7:22>> I can't read a lot. So I watched my
7:24mentor made me watch it.
7:26>> Who was your mentor? So Amrita ma'am was
7:29someone who kind of at that age when I
7:32was 13 14 kind of took me under her
7:35wings and yeah something she saw in me
7:37at that age I was very I was not
7:41ambitious at that time I would say I
7:43loved cricket I love batting nicely
7:45enjoy
7:49you know I didn't have like
7:54when she saw me and she saw the like I
7:56don't know what she saw join me, but she
7:58was like, "No, you're built for
8:00something else." And all of that stuff.
8:01And then she started teaching me the
8:04kind of right things to do in terms of
8:06fitness fielding. She was very strict
8:08with me at some point of my life. And I
8:12would wake up at 5 a.m.
8:17I would wake up at 5:00 a.m. compulsory.
8:20I had to do 12 sura namaskars. my one
8:23fitness routine. She had sent it to me
8:25uh like 30 second squad jump as a kid.
8:2830 seconds squat jump, 30 second
8:30burpees, 30 seconds mountain climber.
8:32Okay, five sets I had to compulsory do
8:34it.
8:34>> Nice.
8:35>> That was like morning. Then I start my
8:38stationary shadow batting all of those
8:40things and till 7:38 I had to do all of
8:42those things every day, day in day out
8:44for like 5 years. And very diligently I
8:47did it.
8:48>> I like never ever said like as I said
8:50someone makes me do it, I'll do
8:52And I was really really scared I should
8:55not upset her.
8:57>> And in those four five years like she
8:58taught me all the right things in terms
9:00of like say leading a team as well. She
9:03would make me sit down with a notebook
9:06watches test match wake up in the
9:08morning and just put down field sets
9:10watch me make me watch take me to ground
9:12and watch make me watch a live match and
9:14be like
9:16yeah know all those all those things and
9:18I had to tell her. So like kind of the
9:21cricketing knowledge what I got is what
9:22a lot from her and yeah she made me
9:26watch the video of secret
9:29made me do all of those things right
9:32like I am ICC number one batter that
9:36world cup winner all of that stuff put
9:38under the pillow sleep have a blank
9:41check
9:42>> yeah I don't know if you've seen secret
9:44>> no tell me tell me all of this
9:45>> okay
9:46>> so what was what did you write and put
9:48it under the pillow Hello. What did you
9:50do
9:50>> as a kid? You know, like she used to
9:52make me ride ICC player number one
9:55player like player of the year and all
9:57of stuff,
9:58>> batter of the number one ranked batter,
10:00which is pretty the best thing to
10:02achieve
10:04>> then world cup winner
10:06>> and yeah like there are three four I
10:08exactly I don't like these were the main
10:10things I to like write it on the whole
10:12page
10:13>> put it under the pill
10:14>> whole page like multiple times. Yeah,
10:15multiple times like and then I have to
10:17like sleep with it all those morning.
10:18>> And then you would put it under your
10:20pillow every day you would write it or
10:21just one time you write
10:22>> every night. Every night this is all
10:24every night. Four, five years I was a
10:25machine at that I and I still feel like
10:28if you work yourself right at 14 to 18
10:32you're good like in life you would not
10:35maybe but you'll be doing something good
10:37in life. So from 14 to 18 like four or
10:4014 to 19 four or five years you wrote a
10:42letter every day
10:44>> not a letter it's like a kind of a
10:46notebook which I had to write
10:48>> affirmations
10:49>> huh affirmations and then just like I'm
10:51going to
10:52>> it's like it's already happened I am huh
10:55sorry I am this I am that not that it
10:58will happen it has happened so I had to
11:00believe that I still I was playing state
11:02level and I'm like oh I'm world's best
11:04pattern so I had to believe that okay I
11:07I will I am going to be or I am already
11:10>> and then put it under the pillow and I
11:12used to find it so stupid and I still
11:14like I don't know I still don't know why
11:16I did it but
11:18>> kind of a lot of things in that came
11:20true also so which is then I was like I
11:23don't have complaints about it but at
11:25that time it was it felt like
11:32but then yeah she taught me a lot of
11:33right values also like
11:35>> and what else would you like
11:38manifestation letter. What is the other
11:40thing you were saying?
11:41>> Then I had to write goals. That's why I
11:44still write goals. I have
11:46>> like 7-day goal, a week, month goal.
11:49Like say if I'm developing a short by
11:51end of seven day, I want to learn this
11:53short
11:54>> or I have learned this.
11:55>> I have learned the short.
11:56>> Okay. You always talk that it has
11:58happened. It has happened. So you start
11:59believing and you start
12:00>> goal setting was a huge thing for her.
12:02Also that
12:02>> goal setting also you write in a way
12:05that which is it has happened to you.
12:07>> No goal setting was like more in a way
12:09where I want to get here.
12:10>> Okay.
12:11>> Yeah. Like 7 days I want to get here. 2
12:13weeks I want to get here. That was a lot
12:15at that time. Now I do maybe a monthly
12:18goal
12:19>> or a yearly goal. I still do that
12:21because I just feel like goals are
12:22something which are the reasons you wake
12:24up and you have that desire to do. and
12:28something like I don't remember what was
12:30it. I had to like write a blank check
12:32and put it on our photo wall or
12:35something like that and see it every
12:36day. I I don't know what what for what
12:39it was. I was a kid too.
12:40>> I was just doing what I was told to do
12:42like I don't know I I think you should
12:45see that secret or I'm sure you would
12:47have seen I'm sure you have seen it
12:50>> because it's a pretty famous thing.
12:53>> But why would you write a blank check?
12:54Like why would you put a blank check?
12:57Mommy, papa, huh?
12:58>> I wanted to buy a house for them because
13:00we were rented house. That was the only
13:02aim of my life.
13:02>> Okay.
13:04>> Did you ever write that on your paper
13:06that I want to
13:07>> Yeah. I want to buy a house for my mom
13:08then
13:09>> because I saw my mom like really really
13:12work hard to make us where we are or get
13:15us to where we are. So that I was always
13:17like
13:21I was like I'm telling you that kid was
13:23very like confident
13:25like just imagine 13year-old telling her
13:28mom
13:32just
13:32>> it happened. Yeah.
13:34>> Yeah.
13:36>> Actually I bought it at 17 only.
13:38>> Sweet 18 actually. So it was pretty
13:41cool. Yeah.
13:41>> So good. So
13:42>> yeah. So it was like a year later but
13:44yeah
13:45>> nice. so proud.
13:47>> So you would write that I I believe in
13:49by the way manifestation, visualization,
13:51all of these. I don't find them stupid
13:53at all.
13:54>> I don't
13:55>> at that point I found it very stupid
13:57because I was too chu
13:59>> but now I when I look back I just feel
14:03like yeah it was it was like very
14:05necessary like I feel like prepared for
14:08a lot of things.
14:11But it's true and by the way every
14:14person every athlete specifically who
14:16I've met or have read about they used to
14:18follow these certain things
14:19>> okay
14:20>> like Michael Jordan Michael Phelps your
14:23Jookovic
14:25>> everybody
14:27you name it and they have it like in
14:30women's if you look at right now Alien
14:32Goo she's killing it I don't know if you
14:33know her
14:34>> she's a women's ski player
14:36>> okay skier
14:36>> she's world famous right
14:39master believer or master manifestation
14:42like you just name people and they all
14:44have some kind of ritual
14:45>> so it's not stupid at all
14:50I also still do it uh but not like the
14:55secret but I do it in my own ways of my
14:58>> what is your way
15:02>> like goal setting is a huge thing for me
15:04>> one month and one year and do you have a
15:06long-term goal as
15:08I think I I gave away that.
15:10>> And do you have a goal attached to a
15:13timeline or just a goal?
15:14>> Just a goal. And my goals are not to do
15:16with um so I've realized this is a big
15:19change. I think that's a lot of big
15:21change which I had is I don't attach my
15:24goals to scoring a certain runs runs or
15:26winning world cup or winning a specific
15:29tournament.
15:31I think my goals are attached now to
15:33what I want to do in terms of how I how
15:35my day should look like or how my body
15:37should feel like or how my batting where
15:40I want my batting to be at. Give me an
15:42example
15:43>> like say like when two years back when I
15:46sat down and I was like okay I want to
15:50change these things in the next 10
15:52months I should stop eating
15:54>> sugar I have after that I should not
15:58feel like I've missed any sessions going
16:00into that tournament I have to feel like
16:03I have given everything I could even
16:05after this it doesn't work out it's fine
16:07I'll go back still work hard but I've
16:09given everything I could to get here at
16:11as well. So that's the feeling I wanted
16:13to get
16:14>> and
16:16yeah like so many things like like you
16:18just want to like say I I want to master
16:21a specific specific shot then I just
16:23feel like I'll give you give myself like
16:26that month or two and then I'll try to
16:29work work hard on that specific shot say
16:31I want to hit sixes at will which is not
16:33particularly my strength and then that's
16:36how then I will want to be at a months
16:38later that I want to do that and I I
16:41know that if I do that for a month, I'll
16:44end up doing that on 31st day. So
16:46>> interesting. And what what happens when
16:48you can't when you don't achieve your
16:50goal?
16:50>> It's okay. Put my head down, work hard
16:52again. That's cricket, you know. That's
16:54cricket which is taught me. Get out on
16:56zero, get out on 100. Just put your head
16:59down, get back to work. You get a 100
17:02also, you have to go back, do your ice
17:05bar, do your recovery sessions. Next day
17:07morning, you have to go still gym. You
17:08get out on zero. same routine. So, you
17:12know, it's just I feel goals are good,
17:14but it's not like the end of the world.
17:17>> Like I really do everything possible to
17:19get there. But if not, it's fine. I
17:22mean, I I'll just be like, okay, where
17:24have I gone wrong? That's a question
17:26which you need to ask yourself. Like I
17:27ask myself, then you know your answers.
17:30Mostly honest people, honest to
17:32yourself, people know your answer. I
17:34think everyone knows their answers. Some
17:35people accept it, some people don't. I
17:37think I have a very high acceptance of
17:39my own mistakes which is something which
17:43helps me a lot.
17:44>> Give me an example of the day where you
17:46made a mistake and tell me the mistake
17:50and then what did you do
17:51>> to fix or something.
17:52>> Okay. Not every time, but say sometimes
17:55you get out on 10 runs when you're
17:56batting extremely well and then you sit
17:58down and like
18:01and then you're like that mobility
18:03session you were lazy you didn't do that
18:07that is why this like you know you just
18:09you know you just know
18:11you just know and then it's like
18:13sometimes you people would like
18:18but there are some people who be like
18:22So, so I think I'm one of I'm the second
18:26part of it. Like I would know that.
18:30>> Nice. And what what was your biggest
18:31mistake? Let's say you said you were at
18:34the best time of your life. You were
18:36informed and still didn't work out. You
18:38stopped thinking about it.
18:40>> No, I did think in Dubai World Cup. But
18:42I remember the time I start taking
18:44actions. I forget what's happening.
18:46>> Okay.
18:46>> So, I've left the Dubai World Cup. The
18:48next morning I called my uh manager and
18:50like I need this this this things like
18:53you know we can't do these things now
18:55for the next whatever years I play
18:57cricket
18:58>> I can't be shooting before like I would
19:02give you like seven days slaps and then
19:03we'll arrange our shoots
19:05>> I can't be like a mad dog like I'm a
19:07cricketer at the end like I wouldn't
19:08like
19:10>> like my training is more important than
19:11anything else
19:12>> like they always prioritized it but
19:14sometimes you know you you have
19:20But you know I should not manage my
19:22shoot
19:25but now I got a lot more organized with
19:28that. Then I called him saying that I
19:30want this sort of people to help around
19:32me
19:33>> so that I sort myself up in in a in a
19:36way like training way, nutrition way,
19:38all of those things. I made that call
19:39for 10 minutes and I said next 7 days
19:42please get me these things. And that was
19:45like the night we knocked out got
19:46knocked out. Next morning 7 7 7 7 a.m. I
19:49made the call. I changed yoga and
19:51meditation was something which I was
19:53like literally running away from I was
19:57like
20:02then then I went I I did yoga. I did
20:07meditation. It changed me a lot.
20:09>> You do meditation?
20:10>> Yeah, I do meditation. I do
20:12>> worked out.
20:13>> Yeah, it did work out. It calmed me
20:15down.
20:16Got me extremely calm in a very
20:20different way like not even like a
20:22surface level like it actually calmed me
20:24down quite a lot. So that that big
20:27change I had to do and then once I've
20:29made those changes now for me then
20:31what's happened is not important.
20:34for people who have like I feel like who
20:36have the fight to make that change then
20:39they won't dwell on the past mistakes
20:42like if you keep keep crying and sitting
20:45on those mistakes it's I feel is what
20:48are you getting out of it you're not
20:50getting you're not improving yourself
20:51you're not getting better so so yeah
20:53that's one thing which like for me I
20:56never dwell on something for a very long
20:58time
20:58>> long period of time and what happens
21:00like you're saying that you were in the
21:04form of your life and you were playing
21:06cricket really well and yet then you
21:09couldn't perform and you got knocked out
21:11like what happens
21:12>> cricketing god
21:14>> no but like when you're in form and you
21:16still can't make runs like what is there
21:18what changes in your body and changes in
21:20your approach because you hear this a
21:23lot right like this person was in zone
21:27but he can't perform or she can't
21:28perform and we are watching from the TV
21:30and we are like yeah we were banking on
21:32her
21:33>> and she's not performing. What goes on
21:34in your head? Is it the pressure that
21:37because I've been playing so well, I
21:38need to play and then that messes up.
21:40What is it?
21:42>> Yeah, that's one part of it because you
21:44kind of build up that tournament in your
21:45head in a very different way and then
21:47you're just like, okay, I have to do I
21:49have to do I can't get anything wrong by
21:51till here. I can't get anything wrong.
21:53So what hap started happening was I I
21:55think I started getting really hard on
21:56myself with these sort of things where I
21:59need to do this, I need to do this, I
22:00need to do this, I can't go wrong in
22:03these things and again as I said to to
22:06you about my batting like I'm so such a
22:08mad perfectionist around it that
22:12then I start messing up a lot more in my
22:14head even more if it's a bigger
22:17tournament coming
22:20and then it kind of deteriorates It's a
22:23little more. So, so yeah, I think more
22:26than the pressure pressure to see as
22:29cricketers if you're batting well match
22:32big match in all it's a
22:35it's a first four five balls thing.
22:38>> Okay. Like after first four five balls
22:40you wouldn't feel it a lot like you know
22:43like when you like like first four five
22:46balls is the time where you kind of be
22:49before because bigger the match it's not
22:52the match day which is which feels
22:54pressure the
22:56>> the approach towards the match the night
22:58before that the morning before that is
23:00when you start if you you're stressing
23:02about it
23:03>> but once the match starts and the first
23:05three four balls happen
23:07>> you're not think oh this is the biggest
23:09match of my life you don't think all
23:11those things you know it's only the
23:13first four five balls where you have
23:15that jitters and nerves and if I would
23:17get out in the first four five balls I
23:20would have been like yes I have to work
23:21on my jitters but I would never get out
23:22on the first four five balls it was
23:24after that
23:25>> m
23:25>> that means the solution and all is not
23:27jitters or big pressure it's something
23:28different
23:30>> interesting
23:31>> like you know if you go and first ball
23:33you get out
23:34>> in a big match
23:35>> I would say okay maybe that is pressure
23:37Yeah, that's anxiety and anxiety,
23:39nervousness, nerves. You've played first
23:42five, six balls like whatever in
23:44whichever nerves you have, you've
23:45played,
23:46>> you've got the sixth ball of your
23:49innings,
23:50you not like you're not thinking about
23:53match occasion as much in your head.
23:56You're just thinking batting
23:58>> the next ball.
23:58>> Huh? Next ball. So, I don't think it was
24:01ever to do with the pressure or anything
24:03for me. It was more to do with the
24:05buildup for the tournament in my head
24:07than overthinking around it and then
24:09losing my feel overthinking about it and
24:12then when you're when as a batter when
24:14you're not feeling the way you want to
24:16feel because of what my batting is. It's
24:18more like a touch batting. It's not
24:19power batting. So if you don't feel the
24:22way you do
24:23it, it doesn't come in results. It's
24:26very hard. Then
24:27>> walk me through the day like walk me
24:29through the night before. Uh what was
24:32going in your head? No. No. You you said
24:34you were overthinking pressure stuff
24:36like that. Overinking overnight
24:49then I'm like
24:53because it's such a weird thing.
24:58It's like
25:01again it's not a form. It's again how
25:03you are your body's feeling. Sometimes
25:05your bottom hand is tired some and for
25:07feel and touch players it's very
25:09important for me at least it is very
25:11important. So, so yeah those seven days
25:14and then I start thinking a lot about it
25:16then I go back to the room and I'll
25:17think a lot about it try and change
25:19something and then something else
25:20happens then next day it's even worse
25:22batting then same then the chain happens
25:25until I approach the tournament it's
25:27gone so I at that time now of course I
25:30have said that it is okay it is fine
25:35>> don't overthink it's in last two years I
25:38think I've got that right
25:40>> m So even if I'm not feeling fine, it is
25:44okay. This one, two words, three words
25:46is has changed a lot for me.
25:48>> Is it same in the world cup as well?
25:51>> Yeah.
25:51>> Or is little different because you're
25:53the final match, world cup night. There
25:56must be some extra thought or extra
25:59pressure in your head or no like no this
26:01just another day.
26:02>> 10 15 minutes
26:04world cup whatever.
26:05>> Okay, let's let's do like take like me
26:07on the day of final match of the world
26:10cup let's say. Um, you have to walk me
26:13through that day like as if I'm there
26:14and like tell me what happened, when did
26:16you wake up, what did you do, what was
26:18the first thought, who did you meet, the
26:20team ritual, breakfast, like walk me
26:22through the entire day with details.
26:24>> When you wake up and you realize it's a
26:26big match day a little bit maybe if your
26:30heart is racing at 65, it will race at
26:3275 from that day.
26:34>> Date me like don't don't tell me what
26:36like tell me
26:36>> mornings I wake up for breakfast as
26:39usual.
26:39>> Okay. You woke up now we have an
26:41afternoon and evening matches
26:44>> go to world cup final
26:47I think we went to I went to breakfast
26:50everyone's families were there there
26:52partil right so
26:54>> at breakfast it felt like it's our floor
26:56everyone's mom dad's like literally it
26:58felt like one big Indian cricket family
27:01when I was here it was pretty cool
27:03>> uh like till I went till the breakfast I
27:05just felt like oh and then I saw
27:07everyone I was just so very happy about
27:10What was you said?
27:12>> Like I just woke up and I was like, "Oh,
27:13I just woke up finally." You know, I
27:15just felt it and then I was like
27:18and then I saw
27:19>> What time did you get up?
27:21>> Nicely woke up. I'm chill like that. 9
27:258:39
27:27I woke up freshen up.
27:37I think I started breakfast chilled with
27:39everyone 11 11:30 went back did my
27:43mobility routine uh half an hour
27:48little bit activation stuff took a
27:51shower ground it's a walking distance
27:53that we stayed at
27:56courtyard marit and it's like literally
27:57the div is just walking distance
28:00>> which I don't I love the stadium but I
28:02like 10 minutes drive to the stadium why
28:05>> for my music just it gets you in a in a
28:09zone like no you just feel like you
28:11should listen to two three songs. So for
28:13Dy Partil matches I used to start
28:15listening to songs on AirPods in room
28:17only. So like what song do I get?
28:22depends tour to tour
28:25love songs sad songs
28:29I'm more of that but akal to like tufan
28:33and all of that like you know full so
28:35depends on what zone or mood I am in
28:37>> so before going to the world cup we are
28:39listening a sad song
28:43>> I am I could I am pretty capable of
28:45doing that because I feel it calms me no
28:48like like slow songs not like sad also I
28:50would say Slow song.
28:51>> Have your favorite slow song. Slow song.
28:53Yeah.
28:54>> I big fan.
28:56>> Which one?
29:00seasonal.
29:03>> I think my alltime favorite of him would
29:06be
29:15world cup finals.
29:19I heard a lot of like this um South
29:21Indian entry songs, BGM songs like
29:24background music song
29:27was my go-to song for a very long time
29:30like I would feel like okay it doesn't
29:32suit my personal my problem and my
29:33person I think in my mind a certain way
29:36but in on like my personality is not
29:39such
29:39>> okay what do you think of yourself in
29:41>> I'm like a collar up and red one dude
29:44>> not dude like I'm just like one huh I'll
29:46fight everyone.
29:47>> Okay.
29:48>> And I'm like there I'll be playing a
29:50shot and smiling
29:52like I'm like you're not this I don't
29:54know sometimes what it is like
29:55>> so you're south Indian hero in your
29:57head.
29:57>> Yeah. Like you know like full like entry
30:00song with a gole and all but somehow it
30:02doesn't happen
30:04like even I get a 100 and I'll be like
30:06okay I'm just like
30:08>> jump and have a like hand like moment
30:12and I will like show to all of those
30:14things. Then what I do is I just remove
30:17helmet and just do this
30:19>> reality.
30:19>> So so yeah. So that I think I heard two
30:23three songs before going to the final
30:26>> then got into the bus
30:28>> which was 2 minutes bus drive
30:32>> and then rain happened. We had a rain
30:34delay for an hour which was stupid.
30:37>> I'm like
30:39as I said start is always very
30:43important.
30:46and then whatever happens happens.
30:50That's the toughest part of the match
30:52day any match day is the first approach
30:55towards the first three footballs
30:56because mentally it's like a like you're
30:59getting towards that right and you're
31:00doing everything towards that
31:02>> as a batter.
31:06So you just have to make sure that you
31:08are really calm about it. So rain
31:11happened and I'm like start
31:14then of course magically disappeared. We
31:16had a toss. We lost a toss. We we're
31:18batting first. I was like okay batting
31:20first team meeting before the match.
31:24>> The new thing I started a little soaking
31:26in the environment. Sometimes I go 5
31:28minutes uh before and I soak in the
31:31environment like so that I'm used to it.
31:33>> When I play I should not feel stressed.
31:36>> Okay. So first I enter I like kind of
31:37see and like like when it's loud and all
31:41I just try and soak it in and be
31:43comfortable around it because once
31:45you're comfortable you just feel like
31:47okay it's your space
31:48>> because once your heartbeat get
31:50>> it just feels normal
31:55I try and do it before only. So I was in
31:58my zone more.
31:59>> Has it happened with you before where
32:02you've not been able to soak in the
32:04environment and then
32:05>> 2017 World Cup final I think I got out
32:08third ball zero. I was 8 19 year old. I
32:10never knew what to do what happened till
32:12the World Cup started. I was already out
32:14on zero. I'm coming back and I'm like I
32:17didn't know what happened like
32:19>> because you couldn't take in the
32:20environment.
32:21>> Yeah. taken the environment did not do
32:23all of those things like you know I
32:25didn't make myself feel comfortable I
32:27just went to bat saw that it was first
32:29time women's cricket had 20 odd thousand
32:31people in lords at lords and that's my
32:34first match at lords
32:37everything happening at once I went and
32:39the third ball is like t zero out till I
32:42realized what's happening I was already
32:44out like
32:44>> so you were not focused on the batting
32:46you were focused on like
32:48>> I wouldn't say I was focused that it's
32:50just that Even if you're not focusing
32:52it, I feel it's more than avoiding it,
32:54you should just embrace it.
32:56>> At that time, I was avoiding it.
33:00>> Now I'm like, wow. You know, like, you
33:02know, that's how it's changed. Now I'm
33:04like, I embrace it. I'm like, it's fine.
33:07You know, all of those things. So that
33:09happened. I went to bat doing all of the
33:12things also. First four, five balls, I
33:13don't know what happened. Ball came my
33:16or didn't hit my I don't know. I didn't
33:18realize after fifth or sixth ball I was
33:20like ah ch and then then yeah I mean it
33:24was pretty cool after that what happened
33:26after 7 8 hours
33:28>> we won the world cup
33:29>> so what was going on in your head when
33:32you were going for the batting
33:37>> just I only tell myself watch the ball
33:39and play accordingly there's not too
33:41much I tell myself
33:43>> nothing but how do you get back like how
33:45do you get your heartbeat normal just by
33:48soaking in the environment you get.
33:49>> I try and do like three four deep
33:51breaths if at all. I feel sometimes a
33:54lot
33:54>> but very rarely I I'm pretty like like
33:58again a very chill person.
33:59>> What do you do like deep breath as in
34:01like you count
34:02>> like just like 3 seconds in 3 seconds
34:05out. Sometimes when I feel it
34:07>> sometimes if it's a D20 match and I
34:09played two three dot balls and then you
34:11have that pressure of getting that
34:14scoreboard going. So that time just to
34:16clear your mind at that time you want to
34:18play five shots sometimes I just and
34:21then I'm like okay watch the ball
34:23because still even that time the basics
34:26don't change no like the basics of
34:28batting don't change so I have to remind
34:30myself baba bigger the occasion you're
34:32still like the basics of batting
34:34watching the ball
34:35>> sometimes it's like too much pressure
34:38too much pressure man in the head not
34:39the match also but sometimes you feel
34:41like
34:42>> you played at lords now you played that
34:44test match
34:46And we hadn't played red wall first time
34:48at Lord. So and from T20 World Cup we
34:52just straight away went to. So I had to
34:53keep telling myself Baba must mask you
34:56know you don't do musty like you know
34:57after T20 you're playing test match
35:00>> and as opener you're like there you have
35:01to hit here you have to like play out.
35:03So sometimes I'm like I'm the best play
35:06according to so it's like some
35:08affirmation words for
35:09>> you tell yourself you talk to yourself.
35:11>> Yeah. If that's what I said if sometimes
35:13I feel like okay I have to get in a zone
35:15that days some days you are in that
35:17zone. So you it again depends on what
35:20day you're in
35:21>> and know when you're walking let's say
35:24you changed put the kit you're walking
35:26on the ground walking on the pitch till
35:29that time do you tell yourself anything
35:31do you talk to yourself?
35:34N
35:35>> I have that routine. Touch the ground.
35:38Go sideways twice. Side side sideways
35:40just twice. Three back flips.
35:44Look at the sun just near the 23 yards.
35:47Like just do that. And yeah, just start.
35:50And then first three balls in your head
35:52you're thinking you're thinking
35:56first.
35:58first three balls you like
36:02like what is first three because you
36:04said first three four balls are the most
36:05problematic. So
36:07>> I said I said like when it's a bigger
36:08match day
36:09>> for everyone you said.
36:10>> Yeah. For me it's not actually I'm like
36:13not like a very first three football
36:15persons.
36:21I don't know if I have some random stats
36:24I've got out on 70s 80s and 90s I don't
36:26know some number of times.
36:28>> X number of times.
36:30>> Yeah I think I would have had like 20
36:32odd extra centuries if I would have not
36:34like really done all those things. So
36:36but first two three balls just same
36:39thing watch the ball play accordingly
36:41okay
36:43and what happens at 80
36:46>> I am also still wondering what happens
36:49there was a year where I was not getting
36:51out on anymore and I had cracked it like
36:57I just feel it's cricket yeah I mean you
36:59can't overthink from some things you
37:06At that time it is sometimes like you're
37:08batting extremely well.
37:11It's not
37:24like that 50%.
37:29So in that you get out. M
37:39thank you very much. But I have realized
37:42I think
37:44cricket has its own way to answer your
37:46questions like you can do a lot of
37:48things right you can do lot of things
37:50here and there
37:51>> but sometimes when it has to come it
37:53will come when it doesn't have to come
37:55it wouldn't come and now I've accepted
37:58it that
37:59>> take it just put your head down do your
38:01work
38:02>> but how do you come in the zone then if
38:03let's say you are not in the zone
38:05>> zone form overrated word it's not like
38:09you're not inform your sometimes you're
38:11not batting the way you want to bat.
38:13Sometimes you're not you're batting well
38:15but some days your mind is running like
38:18a train.
38:19>> It's just like so many thoughts are
38:21coming.
38:23That is the day where maybe I feel I'm
38:26not in zone because the at my best I
38:29don't think I just watch the ball and
38:31react. That's the best I bet.
38:33>> Okay. But there are days where you like
38:39you start thinking the shot beforehand.
38:42>> That is when I feel I'm not in zone and
38:44that's when I have to just remind myself
38:46like what's the ball like you know
38:48that's how I want to do that day.
38:50>> Nice. Interesting. And do you have a
38:52superstition?
38:54>> I used to have many.
38:56>> Tell me.
38:58So generally I sit on the left side of
39:01the bus fourth seat
39:03>> but it's I don't it's superstition it's
39:04just got used to as a kid you enter
39:08and then it's just a thing
39:11>> then I should always enter from the left
39:14side of the so I open so the person is
39:18always on the right and I have to be on
39:19the left I broke that on WL final
39:24actually. Wow, what a day.
39:29And yeah, I'm like
39:39200 is a huge score to chase
39:42like right it's just enter and I was
39:46like anyways
39:52right and actually we chased it down so
39:55now it's nothing there like now I'll
39:56enter wherever it is left
39:59superstition then
40:01then
40:03I still have a little bit but I've
40:05changed a lot. I don't want the leg
40:07guard to be given at the first go.
40:10I don't think anyone has ever had that.
40:13So you go first thing and you ask for a
40:14leg guard your leg.
40:17>> So I don't like the umpire telling in
40:18the one go that's on your leg. I like so
40:21that's why I cast the bat a little
40:23further away and then she will or he
40:25will tell me to get the bat in
40:28>> to mark the leg guard. So I have to have
40:30it like twice thrice like I can't have
40:32it on the one go.
40:35>> Nice.
40:36>> Very strange. It is
40:37>> good.
40:38>> And I don't know if it's superstition or
40:42if I get out I tap the boundary three
40:44times.
40:45>> Yes. Completely. I don't know how it
40:47started
40:48>> after getting out.
40:49>> Yeah. superstition
40:57I don't know that's a that's a thing I
41:00don't know why it has happened and I
41:02think it's a more
41:05your father and mother do they have a
41:07superstition
41:09>> mommy used to not watch for the longest
41:11time she said
41:14problem
41:16and then you know mommies are
41:18you
41:20So she used to she used to not watch.
41:23She now tries to watch but bigger
41:24matches she can't watch. She gets very
41:26nervous like World Cup final. My mom
41:29she's like she told that firstly tickets
41:33problem but she's like I want one ticket
41:35for myself. I'm not coming to watch the
41:37match but I'll come to see you guys lift
41:39the trophy. So I want the ticket to
41:41enter. So she watched. She didn't come
41:44for the match. She she was she was at
41:46our hotel room from up like you could
41:49see the ground
41:50>> she was up there 15 minutes 10 minutes I
41:53think when we were supposed to win she
41:55came down
41:57so that's like that's my mom my father
42:00my brother is very like serious you'll
42:01watch it very seriously papa is chill
42:05I don't think they have I'll ask them
42:06next time
42:07>> do they have any superstition or
42:08anything
42:09>> yeah I'll have to ask them
42:11>> but you call them after
42:12>> match before match I call
42:14When I sit in the bus, first thing I
42:15call is mom, dad.
42:17>> Then they have a particular way of
42:18saying all the best like with a tone. My
42:22mom has a tone to say all the best and
42:24my father has a tone as well.
42:26>> So they that's their superstition I
42:27think like when they wish me they will
42:30say nothing just all the best.
42:33That's it. Like sometimes like in UK
42:35you're playing and
42:38enjoy like it's a two-minute call but
42:41>> I don't remember a match I've played
42:43without calling them. Yeah, it's always
42:45as a kid I've always called him even
42:46now.
42:48>> But it's just a ritual since years you
42:50have made it.
42:51>> Yeah. I I don't know when it started or
42:53what happened but it's for the longest
42:56time for the last 15 20 years I remember
42:58going for a math and calling them.
43:00>> Nice. That's a good thing.
43:01>> Yeah. That's a nice thing. Getting a
43:02blessing. Getting blessings from my
43:04parents before match is pretty cool.
43:05>> Hey, good. Who between both of them who
43:08sacrificed most for you?
43:10>> I think both in their own ways have
43:12sacrificed for me. But mom in particular
43:16sacrifice but she like because of those
43:20whole problems of family. We kind of had
43:22to change our house and then of course
43:25father was part of the joint business we
43:27had. So when we had nothing like he
43:30didn't know what to do a lot and then my
43:32mom used to start doing ex exhibition
43:35she was very creative and that's how she
43:37actually raised us and maybe she used to
43:41always she used to work there and again
43:44cook as well take care of the house so
43:47yeah in that ways I think she's kind of
43:49sad but never
43:52like
43:59They tried their best to get whatever
44:02best we could. And when did you realize
44:03that she's sacrificing or she's like
44:06working really hard to make sure that
44:08you
44:09>> always because I used to help her with
44:11all those things
44:12>> from day one you like from very early on
44:14you realize only when you start
44:16realizing I understood
44:19you know
44:23but I knew my mom is like really like
44:26working so much. I used to help her do
44:29table mats go for her exhibitions. I
44:32used to stand in the exhibitions like
44:33it's like the exhibition halls of the
44:35like used to go to other cities used to
44:37take the stuff and I was I I've done
44:40abbecas
44:41>> you see mass that so I've done all the
44:43eight levels so my math is pretty good
44:45>> nice
44:46>> so I I so I used to have like the clips
44:48as well hair clips so my calculation
44:54I tell auntie auntie 400 what so I've
44:57done all of those I've seen her like
44:59work really hard so it was like for For
45:01me it was always like you know I want to
45:03give a very nice life to them.
45:05>> And they used to always encourage you to
45:07play cricket right? They were very
45:09supportive but relatives were not in the
45:12beginning.
45:22Till that point anyone had not even
45:23heard like women playing cricket and
45:26start mate was like when I played school
45:29level and all we traveled from a general
45:33boogie and all of that and
45:35>> for a maradi family it's a little like
45:38like
45:44all those like I would also I still feel
45:46it's like genuine concern concerns also
45:48like
45:51but like genuine concerns also key how
45:53will she manage she's just nine or 11
45:56like mom wanted me to play sports but
46:00she was very keen on tennis
46:02>> because at that time against sa miza was
46:04a huge impact
46:06>> and single individual sports she wanted
46:09me to do individual sports plus women's
46:12tennis was lot famous than women's
46:13cricket at that time way bigger you knew
46:16Sarina Williams you knew Maria Sharapoa
46:18they were like big names she wanted me
46:20to do that was and I
46:22>> there was someone to look up to. Yeah.
46:24>> Yeah. Because there was at that time I
46:26didn't know a lot of women cricketers.
46:28You don't know what's happening. So uh
46:31so yeah I think my mom wanted me to play
46:33sports but tennis more but very early
46:36she understood batting
46:39so I used to be like
46:44so that's how then they were like pretty
46:46cool with it and then it after two three
46:48years so it became like they are
46:49dreaming that
46:50>> nice I should like
46:52>> what would they say like when I was
46:55reading again somewhere relatives
46:59This is all every relative talks like
47:02mommy is also like me
47:13know they were very like but the best
47:15thing never came to us what happens
47:17problem
47:20but papa how would he respond
47:22>> same I think papa though he doesn't care
47:25I think my family in general they not
47:28very like
47:32that's why they've let me like just be
47:36>> nice
47:36>> like I I could take my own decisions at
47:39any point in my life and they
47:42they're all worried is my happiness and
47:45my wellbeing
47:46>> and if that is happening yeah if that is
47:49happening they don't care if they're
47:50upsetting the world they're upsetting
47:52the relents
47:57>> that is So good. So that's a very that's
47:59luck.
48:00>> That's luck.
48:01>> That's absolute luck.
48:02>> Like they only care is about me and B. I
48:05have to be happy.
48:08>> Yeah.
48:08>> Which is so rare cuz there are every
48:12parent wants their kids wellbeing and
48:14happiness. But there are some parents
48:17who care about way more than anything
48:20else. And they're just so sad.
48:21>> It's a very normal thing. I feel it's a
48:23very normal. They would like again I
48:26don't know why it happens but they would
48:29do a certain way be a certain way
48:30because what people will think and all
48:32but yeah I have never even been raised
48:35in that environment like
48:42you know
48:44for me it was always like no like you
48:46know you you want to do what you you got
48:49to do what you got to do kind of a thing
48:51like
48:56I don't care. I did still.
48:58>> But you said like I don't care still
49:01like
49:01>> No, but the kid version of you didn't
49:04care at all. But today
49:13Right. But uh yeah, I I don't think I
49:16still care about people think what will
49:18happen.
49:19>> Never.
49:20>> I think it's just a like with now social
49:23media just a 20day thing.
49:2520
49:26>> 15 days
49:32like if you win also you lose also. It's
49:34just a 20 15 20 day thing, right?
49:36>> You have a 30inut rule which is
49:39>> Yeah, it's a 30-minut rule. I don't
49:40dwell on anything more than 30 minutes.
49:43It's not a rule but
49:45>> but you can make it one.
49:46>> Yeah. So it's a good rule.
49:48>> It's a good rule to give in a playbook
49:50of Smithy Mandana mindset playbook.
49:52>> I don't know mindset
49:55there. It can be a great rule. Let the
49:58world actually know this.
49:59>> Yeah. It's a like I go back and it's
50:02like a in my mind stop 30 minutes but
50:06like I wouldn't dwell on anything in
50:08life not only cricket anything in life
50:1130 40 minutes
50:15>> I think I've got up done
50:18yeah anything happens I've got
50:19>> Do you have emotions do you let yourself
50:23>> I think I don't have a lot of emotions
50:27>> do you allow yourself to feel
50:29>> even when You're alone, let's say, not
50:31in front of public. Let's say this is a
50:32very public version of you.
50:34>> No, no, of course I do feel and I have
50:36those emotions.
50:37>> You're not numb or do you feel that
50:38you've gotten numb?
50:40>> So, I could go quiet, but like crying,
50:45sadness is something which I don't
50:46relate myself a lot to. Yeah, I don't
50:50know why, but it's very weird. But
50:53there'll be people around me crying
50:56about something and I would just have
50:58extremely practical approach to that.
51:05>> Okay.
51:06>> Because I feel I think it's a blessing
51:08some people who can cry because I don't
51:10cry as like quickly
51:13>> and I just feel like you should let the
51:15person be them. I'm not a huge believer
51:19who
51:20or and there's no written success path
51:24or any path
51:25>> and what is success I mean people
51:27success actually success is being happy
51:30no like it's not about like what people
51:34have made success to be success I feel
51:36success is actually just
51:38>> waking up having a good 8 hours sleep
51:41and being happy within your own self and
51:44I feel if someone wants to let out their
51:46emotions do that and if I am I what I am
51:49I can be that but I do feel on days
51:52where those self-doubts and all those
51:54things come but again like 30 minutes
51:56and I'll start doing something else.
51:59>> Do you cry?
52:01>> Maybe bathroom sometimes but
52:05bathrooms and shower and sometimes yeah
52:07maybe front of maybe one or two people
52:09of like I feel like
52:12>> when was the last time you cried? Mm-
52:16Good question.
52:19I don't remember.
52:22You know, I cry for movies.
52:24>> I don't cry for my real life.
52:26>> Okay.
52:26>> If I watch a movie, I cry.
52:29So I think I was watching Mustafir Cafe
52:31and it just caught me emotional, happy,
52:33emotional and I cried.
52:35>> Why? I also got very emotional at movie.
52:37I don't know like
52:39>> very amishaf
52:42very nice not even I got very happy
52:44emotionally I was like yeah man I also
52:45want to do something like just leave
52:48everything just go open your own cafe
52:51>> I took right for
52:51>> Prii
52:54no I was
52:54>> like you know that I mean the character
52:56Priy I felt bad for her I was like just
52:59emotions
53:05like happy emotions so cool like you
53:07know just away from the world away from
53:09everything just go on do your own bit
53:12like I think after cricket that's me
53:14like you know
53:16>> not seeing not like just
53:17>> you want to be alone away
53:18>> alone means just in your cafe halfway
53:21there
53:21>> yeah yeah just being whatever wherever I
53:24would be just like because again I'm not
53:26a very social person
53:27>> so that's how
53:28>> but if you will see something in the
53:30movie you will cry about that in
53:33bathroom
53:34>> no no I'll cry there only so I remember
53:36crying crying for cafe in UK when I was
53:39watching it.
53:40>> Yeah, that's the last time I cried.
53:45No,
53:45>> you said like
53:48if you feel like you know some matches
53:52hurt you,
53:53>> some matches hurt you know like
53:54>> what was the last match that hurt you?
53:56>> See Dubai really hurted me like World
53:59Cup hurt necessarily. I I did cry a
54:02little bit after that.
54:07this World Cup we could not make it to
54:09the semis. Did that that hurt me? Not
54:12necessarily I cried but I did it hurt me
54:14but there are a few matches where you
54:15feel like I should have like
54:20>> and what hurts you your own performance
54:22or team's performance who do you blame
54:25>> first you should always start with
54:26yourself
54:28like that's like that's how you have to
54:31be
54:32>> first you should start about your own
54:34self what you could have done better if
54:37you are the one who's like
54:40means you only don't have expectations
54:41of that you could win that match.
54:44Fair. So I think I start with my own
54:46self first
54:50then maybe think a little bit about the
54:52team how like
54:55this person would have played like what
54:57we could have done better as a team
55:03like
55:05but I don't think I'm not necessarily
55:08like I would go to a press conference
55:09and name anyone nameropping
55:13like you're a team, you should back each
55:17other and like
55:18>> you win as a team. You don't
55:20>> you can criticize the performance. You
55:22can criticize that okay this went wrong.
55:25This should have gotten better. We could
55:27not prepare whatever job be but name
55:30dropping is something which I'm not big
55:32fan of.
55:33>> Fair which is the right approach. You
55:35win as a team, you lose as a team.
55:36>> You lose as a team and then first
55:38introspect within yourself. Do you feel
55:40responsible
55:42>> for a lot of things?
55:44>> Yeah, of course.
55:44>> Because you you use certain vocabulary
55:46which is very interesting. Like almost
55:48every time you say like when when you
55:51were speaking about your mentor, you
55:53said the first thought was I should not
55:55upset her,
55:56>> right? When you were talking about your
55:57mom and dad,
56:00then you with the team as well.
56:04Do you feel like do you have this
56:05constant feeling of
56:07>> this is my one big problem that you know
56:09I start I like blame myself first a lot
56:11about everything or I feel responsible
56:13for that person as well a lot
56:16>> which is a good thing also a bad thing
56:18also
56:19>> why is it a good thing and why is that a
56:20bad thing
56:21>> good thing that I'm not putting things
56:22on like anyone I'm being a good person
56:25like technically
56:27>> bad things is sometimes like which now I
56:29have changed a lot that you don't let
56:31that person take decisions like because
56:34they have to also learn from their own
56:36>> like mistakes be your parents your
56:38friends your teammates whoever so that's
56:41something which I think I've learned now
56:43with the leadership roles with WPL and
56:45everything that you know you you just
56:49let them be
56:51guide them here and there but what they
56:54do is not your responsibility like I I
56:58don't know how do I explain it because
57:00what I am what I am because of my
57:02mistakes
57:03And if I kind of protect them again and
57:05again about their mistakes, they're
57:07never going to grow.
57:09>> Then they'll start being dependent. And
57:11you need leaders in your team.
57:14>> You don't want someone who's following
57:16someone. You just want leaders because
57:1715 leaders is great. Leaders in a sense
57:20in your in their own life.
57:23>> So So yeah, again, I've changed that
57:26quite a lot now.
57:27>> Okay.
57:29What's uh how do you think about
57:31leadership?
57:35>> See I I I was always a captain as a kid
57:39and I started leading Maharashtra team
57:41when I was 16.
57:43>> Uh like the senior senior side I was
57:45leading when I was 16.
57:47>> Okay. And like I never knew but I I
57:51think I started enjoying it as well
57:53because
57:55like I feel
57:57I feel I think like
58:00that that sometimes uh you know the
58:04preparation part in terms of leader
58:06leadership the preparation towards the
58:08game I think that whole process is
58:10something which
58:11>> I really really enjoy a lot and uh and
58:14yeah I mean of course I've got privilege
58:17to WPs and I've been vice captain for a
58:20very long time. So, so yeah, you've been
58:22in and around and I think I really enjoy
58:24it.
58:24>> Doesn't that scare you?
58:26>> Captainship.
58:27>> Yeah, the pressure of being a captain.
58:30>> I mean, you play for India anyways. You
58:33>> there's an extra pressure of being a
58:35captain. No, I'm sure there is.
58:37>> See, yeah, there is answerability more
58:39for sure. what decisions you take win
58:42and loss but I feel you have I think you
58:45you should be able to take it in a way
58:47where if you are accepting it you have
58:49to take it and I think I really enjoy
58:52that part as I said it's not just that
58:54pressure part and all but I just feel
58:56like I really enjoy
58:58um getting to the game doing the
59:00analysis matchups and you know who to
59:03bowl what's happening what's the best
59:05combinations how the wicket is looking
59:07how's the ground and all of those things
59:09And my favorite part of WPL is actually
59:12planning for auction. It's it's pretty
59:13fun. It's like like what team
59:15combinations you you're looking at. And
59:18with all of that, when you know you've
59:19done the hard work, even as a captain is
59:21a hard work. You've done that hard work,
59:23results don't come. Then you have to
59:24take the criticism for sure. But again,
59:26it's like batting.
59:28>> You do the hard work, but you can get
59:30out on zero.
59:32And you do the batting, you do the hard
59:34work, you can get a 100. It's same with
59:36captainship. And I think I I treat it as
59:40a third skill for me because I don't
59:43bowl. It's like batting fielding and
59:45third skill is captainship. So I treat
59:48is at that like you're going to get good
59:50things and bad things with it.
59:51>> But it may becomes natural to you
59:53because you're in general as a person
59:56you are somebody who's like always
59:57taking accountability always making sure
1:00:00that everyone is before me.
1:00:03>> That's true actually. And uh that's
1:00:06always I've grown up like that. As I
1:00:07said, I think the answer question you
1:00:10asked me maybe the answer was because I
1:00:12was leading teams always as a 16 year
1:00:14old. I was always leading teams and as a
1:00:16captain you're probably the last person
1:00:19on the list though you are the first on
1:00:21the list but you what you want is the
1:00:22last.
1:00:23>> You are there for what people want.
1:00:26>> True. So I think that is where that
1:00:29quality has also come to me because like
1:00:32at a at a age of 16 17 to throw in a
1:00:34senior leadership like kind of a thing
1:00:37>> was something very like
1:00:39>> and I think I was 21 22 when I was vice
1:00:41captain for the Indian team also for D20
1:00:43side.
1:00:44>> So I was like at that point you can't be
1:00:47thinking about yourself because even if
1:00:49you've had a bad match I can't cry. I
1:00:52should be making I should make sure that
1:00:54I'm like helping everyone out. So that's
1:00:56how it's come I think as a kid.
1:00:58>> Ah as a as a kid since since you were a
1:01:01kid you've been the elder
1:01:04>> elder sister you've been in the junior
1:01:06team actually become captain in senior
1:01:08team.
1:01:09>> Yes.
1:01:10>> Yeah bunch of things. So you've been
1:01:12prepar getting prepared for all of this
1:01:13since very long.
1:01:15>> I think God prepares you and gives you
1:01:17at the right time. I again I believe in
1:01:19that a lot. Do you have this habit of
1:01:21making people dependent on you? Huh?
1:01:23Because no, you'll always be the I'm the
1:01:25big sister. I'm the person in the house.
1:01:28I'm this like don't worry.
1:01:32All of that. Do you have that?
1:01:33>> Yeah, I do have that.
1:01:36Yeah, I do have that a lot. Um,
1:01:40yeah. I mean, I used to have that a lot,
1:01:42but now I I think in the last one two
1:01:45years I've changed a lot. Now I don't
1:01:47feel that anymore. like someone comes
1:01:50with something also I'll give them a
1:01:51very practical and cricket and you
1:01:53figure out your way
1:02:00okay I'll stand there make them make
1:02:03sure that they are fine about it and all
1:02:05of that I'll still do that in my own
1:02:07ways but not very like that that person
1:02:10should not think I helped them it should
1:02:12be more in a way where they fought their
1:02:14own battle I was there
1:02:16>> so that's a very different there are two
1:02:18very different things.
1:02:19>> Yeah.
1:02:20>> So when you're just there and they are
1:02:21fighting their own battle and you're
1:02:22just there, it just feels that they know
1:02:26that next time it comes I can fight it
1:02:29because
1:02:31then they don't know what to do now.
1:02:32True. So now I think I've changed that.
1:02:34>> You've changed that. And how did you
1:02:36realize that?
1:02:39I think life only.
1:02:42>> Okay.
1:02:46>> But you were like that since you were a
1:02:48kid.
1:02:49>> Ah, it was very um like even if I have a
1:02:52bigger brother, I was always like elder
1:02:54sister to him.
1:02:54>> So it was always like even my friends
1:02:56who are my same age always be like a
1:02:59mother to them like me. I don't know why
1:03:01it was there but it was always there.
1:03:03But now I don't think now I'm chill
1:03:06about it. Do you put other people before
1:03:08you?
1:03:09>> I think so. That's Yeah, I do that a
1:03:12lot.
1:03:15>> They should.
1:03:16>> Yeah, because what happens with
1:03:18unemotional people? No, like me.
1:03:20>> I'm like I'll take care of their
1:03:22emotions.
1:03:25>> It's like I will be fine. So that is
1:03:28something which happens a lot to me that
1:03:30I'll always take care of like everyone's
1:03:34emotions around me and everyone knows
1:03:36that I'll be fine you know that way.
1:03:38>> So it happens a lot with me.
1:03:39>> And if do you also feel like let's say
1:03:42if mom's getting let's say sad about
1:03:45something oh I should make her happy and
1:03:47I'll make I'll make sure that she'll get
1:03:48happy. Do you get that?
1:03:52>> And then dad also and then you wouldn't
1:03:54or brother also. Cuz like you feel like
1:03:56you're responsible to make sure
1:03:57everyone's happy around you.
1:03:58>> Yeah. Because if someone is sad around
1:04:00me, I feel like I need to do something.
1:04:02You know,
1:04:05>> this is I'm same
1:04:07>> like I put other people.
1:04:15>> Putting everyone before you is not a
1:04:18very good thing. I do that a lot and
1:04:20that's why I put myself last.
1:04:24There are probably two or three
1:04:26decisions only in my entire life where
1:04:29I've been selfish
1:04:32>> and I'm guilty about all of them. Like I
1:04:34can I know exactly the two specific
1:04:37decisions I've taken where I've I was
1:04:39like I'm selfish and I'm just going to
1:04:41take care of my happiness. And I'm still
1:04:43guilty. think about it being years
1:04:47thinking
1:04:49>> but I am that person like I would want
1:04:52everyone to be happy around me
1:04:54>> even if I'm shooting my team is there
1:04:57like if someone is sad or angry I'll
1:04:59make sure like they're okay fine about
1:05:02it
1:05:03>> yeah just a very inbuilt thing and I
1:05:06don't know why it is but
1:05:13I mean meditation internalize. As I
1:05:16meditate, I'm blank.
1:05:17>> Okay.
1:05:18>> Very
1:05:19>> you're not thinking about patterns and
1:05:21reflections and things like that.
1:05:23>> The person who was taking meditation
1:05:24also got a little like
1:05:27you're surprised that okay I've not done
1:05:29meditation. It's a good thing she said
1:05:30that you don't
1:05:32>> I would think like I'm drowning
1:05:33somewhere and all that but not life
1:05:35problems or life stuff. I don't remember
1:05:37I meditated and I've thought of cricket
1:05:40or anything in the life at all
1:05:42>> because very yeah I don't know it's a
1:05:45god
1:05:45>> it's a it's a very good thing so I was
1:05:48exactly like you meditation and all that
1:05:51is not for me
1:05:53but I started breath work that was like
1:05:56one step closer to
1:05:58>> you know actually breath work I find a
1:05:59little boring than meditation meditation
1:06:01is
1:06:02>> better for
1:06:04How
1:06:06breath work is also nice but it's a
1:06:08little taxing.
1:06:09>> Meditation is relaxing.
1:06:12>> I enjoy my breath work a lot. I've very
1:06:14recently started like probably couple of
1:06:17months
1:06:19>> and very good like I' I've seen my state
1:06:22being calmer and the same I feel
1:06:26like I'll think about 20 things. this is
1:06:28this is not like overthink but like
1:06:30always on the go like this needs to be
1:06:32done this needs to be done but when I'm
1:06:34doing a breath work my breath work coach
1:06:37also asked me like why what were you
1:06:39thinking of I was nothing I was almost
1:06:41sleeping
1:06:44one thing it's not
1:06:46>> it's a one thing then that we are in
1:06:49present mode
1:06:50>> very present like I I think about
1:06:53something so these thoughts also let's
1:06:56say something where I've Being selfish
1:06:58example, it'll come for me. It'll come
1:07:00to me for like 20, 30, 40 minutes.
1:07:04>> You also have 30 minutes somewhat.
1:07:07>> You also have a 30 minutes then
1:07:09>> and then it'll be gone. Then I'll be on
1:07:11to the next thing.
1:07:17>> Yeah. I I don't know what will happen
1:07:19thinking about it. It's not that things
1:07:21are going to change. Live with it. So
1:07:25>> but I don't coming back to the point of
1:07:28where it's like not doing things for
1:07:30yourself is often
1:07:34is is is a question that because I ask
1:07:37lot of questions of people I I see this
1:07:39>> like cricket for myself which is pretty
1:07:41cool like you know you do podcast for
1:07:43yourself.
1:07:44>> Agreed. I mean
1:07:47large body of a life you're doing it for
1:07:49yourself. Like I bat I and I don't think
1:07:52anything in life can make me happier
1:07:54than batting
1:07:55>> and I bat every day.
1:07:56>> So that's what I'm doing in my life.
1:07:58There are so many people even around you
1:08:00that
1:08:02>> that basic work they don't do what they
1:08:05love.
1:08:07>> True.
1:08:09And I think we could also make people
1:08:11happy or do what we could is because our
1:08:14basic work is the work which we love the
1:08:17most.
1:08:19>> That's a good perspective.
1:08:20>> Yeah. And I don't think I need any
1:08:22selfcare more than that.
1:08:24>> I agree. Now
1:08:25>> like when I bat
1:08:27I you just go in a very happy zone and I
1:08:30just feel like nothing can match this.
1:08:33No one can match this. Leave nothing. No
1:08:35one can match this. And
1:08:38what else you do more? No. Like
1:08:40>> bang on.
1:08:40>> Yeah.
1:08:41>> Yeah. There's no self-care which can
1:08:43make me happier than this.
1:08:44>> Yeah. That's it then. Yes. You're doing
1:08:46this.
1:08:46>> So this is Yeah. So I'm the most selfish
1:08:48here. I do this for myself.
1:08:51>> Like there are people who leave what
1:08:52they want to do for someone like parents
1:08:55or people
1:08:56>> for some responsibility they have.
1:08:57>> They would do that. And then I would be
1:08:59like okay that's very scary.
1:09:01>> You're doing things for other people
1:09:03because you're not happy within them. I
1:09:05could do things for other people because
1:09:07very happy within myself.
1:09:10>> I don't think God would have made or I
1:09:13would have been able to do only that for
1:09:15people if I was not happy. So I don't
1:09:18think it's a very kind of a selfless or
1:09:20selfish. It's a you are a content like
1:09:23you're content with your
1:09:25>> it is what it is. Yeah, it is.
1:09:27>> It makes it makes a lot of sense. But
1:09:30now I'm thinking like would
1:09:34would I be the same person where I'm
1:09:37putting other people first if I was not
1:09:38doing this. I think my answer would be
1:09:41yes because I was
1:09:43>> yeah I mean
1:09:43>> before that I was exact I was still the
1:09:46kind of person
1:09:46>> maybe you would have got frustrated and
1:09:48stopped it or
1:09:49>> I haven't I still put other people
1:09:51>> still having this you don't know your
1:09:53life if you didn't have this
1:09:54>> I have this fair I would have stopped at
1:09:57some point
1:09:57>> yeah I would have maybe not been this
1:09:59person if cricket or god or batting
1:10:03would have not given me what it has
1:10:05you
1:10:06>> know and all the frustrations in life
1:10:10around everyone comes because that basic
1:10:13thing they're not happy with.
1:10:14>> True.
1:10:15>> So I'm very happy
1:10:16>> this I am also very happy. I would have
1:10:19been very frustrated as a man
1:10:21>> and then
1:10:21>> if I was not doing this
1:10:22>> and that will add add up pile up to you
1:10:25not being helpful
1:10:27>> like
1:10:27>> yeah yeah
1:10:28>> at some point right it would not come
1:10:30maybe 5 years 10 years but it will
1:10:35>> you know but yeah I think it's also to
1:10:38do with because we are very content and
1:10:40happy people in our own professional
1:10:42space
1:10:42>> true you know in fact that is that is so
1:10:45funny in fact whenever I talk to my
1:10:47cousins or or my friends that's usually
1:10:50one of the first let's say my
1:10:54prerequisites or advices which I tell my
1:10:57you know my people around me it's like
1:10:59if you are thinking of this partner as
1:11:02your partner for life just make sure do
1:11:05they have something that they where
1:11:07they're happy like truly happy without
1:11:08you
1:11:10>> because if they've not figured out one
1:11:12thing where they can be themselves and
1:11:15they're happy it'll be very difficult.
1:11:17Yeah, it is very difficult in general
1:11:19like if you don't have something which
1:11:21>> because it makes you angry as a person
1:11:24frustrates you.
1:11:25>> Yeah. And then it's all on people around
1:11:27you and everything around that. So I
1:11:30feel that's like for me that's a very
1:11:32like that's something I tell everyone
1:11:34again say that
1:11:36>> you can only give happiness if you're
1:11:38happy
1:11:40>> like happy soul. I mean like you know
1:11:42you can't
1:11:43>> but do you let do you feel happiness for
1:11:45more than 30 minutes
1:11:48>> I am happy I don't feel excitement more
1:11:50two different things yeah
1:11:52>> okay you don't get excited at all
1:11:53>> no I do like see the first time I got
1:11:56the ICC award I remember calling my
1:11:58parents my brother in a conference call
1:12:00and being like all prepped up about
1:12:02mommy papa can't believe
1:12:05and I have done all that for 15 20
1:12:07minutes but my family is also like very
1:12:10blah
1:12:17Mom, dad of course they are very excited
1:12:19people like
1:12:21but yeah that's about it after 20 30
1:12:23minutes I'm like okay fine up
1:12:27>> like yeah so
1:12:29>> do you play to win or do you play to not
1:12:31lose
1:12:33>> oh
1:12:34interesting I never thought about it
1:12:37>> think
1:12:39>> pretty much same Oh,
1:12:41>> very different way of playing.
1:12:46>> I think
1:12:46>> Do you hate losing or do you love
1:12:48winning? What what's a stronger emotion?
1:12:51>> I think I love
1:12:53playing.
1:12:55>> Yeah, fair. Which is why you play
1:12:58>> losing a parcel part and parcel of the
1:13:00game is what I would
1:13:01>> take out cricket.
1:13:02>> Let's say other sports. You're very
1:13:04competitive and aggressive. I know that
1:13:06>> winning. I think
1:13:07>> you hate losing or you
1:13:09>> I love winning. I don't think I hate
1:13:11anything in life.
1:13:11>> Are you a bad loser?
1:13:14>> Could be in other sports. Yes. Not in
1:13:16cricket. Cricket like of course it's a
1:13:18bread and butter.
1:13:19>> Yeah. So
1:13:20>> it's not cricket. Like we're just
1:13:22talking about you as a person.
1:13:22>> With my friends and family. Yes. Not
1:13:24with random people. I would
1:13:26>> You're a bad You're sore losers.
1:13:28>> Yeah. With my brother. I could
1:13:29>> What do you do when you lose?
1:13:30>> I throw a fit. I would be like, "What is
1:13:33this? cheating
1:13:38whatever I speak around cricket I'm not
1:13:40that person then why what changes you
1:13:44just like that inbuilt which is there
1:13:51and then and that's how I am with
1:13:53batting also I am very egoistic as a
1:13:56batter
1:13:57>> explain
1:13:58>> like if I get beaten in nets
1:14:01I like I can't take
1:14:04In my head I'm like can't leave getting
1:14:06out even if I get beaten or something
1:14:08I'm just like no that's not you know
1:14:11next session I'll come in full like
1:14:13that's what I'm saying maybe my
1:14:15personality is not such but my mind is
1:14:16that way that next my next next practice
1:14:18session I'm like
1:14:25and not that I show it in my aggression
1:14:28but in my head it's small battles which
1:14:29I have to have and yeah I have I hate
1:14:33Like if I get LBW and bold there's two
1:14:36dismissals
1:14:38I can't sleep. Sleep means that like
1:14:43this both I can't get
1:14:53arrogance arrogance it's like a
1:14:57selfresect ego
1:15:00but that's something which I like I
1:15:02always pride
1:15:09like
1:15:11thank you then I'm like I can't
1:15:18I will be like I knew I know that I'm
1:15:29in my own mind that I have it. So it's
1:15:32very funny like sometimes I get out and
1:15:33the coach would be like
1:15:38that day I'll still be like I'll come
1:15:39back I'll be still the day I get bold
1:15:41and like
1:15:49you are chill about it. So that's that's
1:15:51like LBW and are something which I'm not
1:15:53too fond of.
1:15:54>> Do you think that ego makes you better
1:15:56as a player? this ego,
1:15:59>> it can crash you or get you better.
1:16:01>> For you,
1:16:02>> for me, I think it drives me because I'm
1:16:04such a chilled out personality that if I
1:16:07didn't have this personality in me, it
1:16:10would not like give that fire in me.
1:16:13>> M
1:16:14>> because I am like a rich types person a
1:16:17lot. So if in my batting also I would be
1:16:20that that would have not like now I
1:16:22constantly keep thinking how to get
1:16:24better, how to get better. is because of
1:16:25that ego in my mind. So, so yeah, I
1:16:29think it kind of motivates me to get up
1:16:32like
1:16:35so I think it's good also for me like
1:16:38personality like me it's very good.
1:16:40>> Where do you get your fire from? Like
1:16:41what drives you?
1:16:46Like is it other people bother you that
1:16:49who has told you that you can't play and
1:16:50you're wrong
1:16:52>> to prove them wrong or is like your
1:16:54expectation that
1:16:58was itself or is it others
1:17:01or is it someone else
1:17:09like I've done so much of hard work with
1:17:12betting I can't get out like this you
1:17:14know that kind of a ego comes M
1:17:16>> let me know I'm better than this sort of
1:17:19a thing. Yeah, that drives me.
1:17:22>> It's within like you see yourself in
1:17:25your head as the player. So you better
1:17:28want to
1:17:28>> but if you play that way yeah you have
1:17:30to see yourself as the player.
1:17:37You have to think that you are the
1:17:39player.
1:17:40>> Even if you're not, you have to think
1:17:42you are the player. Otherwise, how is
1:17:44people going to believe that you're the
1:17:46player? You have to think now that I do
1:17:48feel like though my attitude, my walk
1:17:52and all that is not there. But in my
1:17:53head, I'm I know like don't take like
1:17:57panga like you know in my head I would
1:17:59be in that zone.
1:18:01>> That's that's true. You know my one of
1:18:03my mindset coaches made me do this
1:18:06exercise very early on. So whenever I
1:18:08would do a podcast with this is like two
1:18:11years ago. Yeah.
1:18:13uh two years ago. So whenever I would do
1:18:16podcast with someone that really big
1:18:18right and I wish then I would become
1:18:20very small like do you do you get what I
1:18:23mean? So let's say
1:18:25>> if I'm doing a podcast with Bill Gates,
1:18:27right? So in I wouldn't be this chill
1:18:30like he's here to be this chill but I
1:18:32would just be like succumb and become
1:18:34that
1:18:35>> and I would not be my natural self and I
1:18:37would not think that I'm the player and
1:18:39this is the game that I'm playing and I
1:18:41would just succumb to that pressure
1:18:43>> and questions which I know because for
1:18:47someone like him I've been preparing for
1:18:4920 years
1:18:51>> in your head for world cup you're
1:18:53preparing since the time you have picked
1:18:55up a bat right so that's the so that for
1:18:57me is that kind of day. So and I I used
1:19:00to bad
1:19:01>> you could see that there are one podcast
1:19:03before you will see like
1:19:07>> and then my mindset coach like he told
1:19:11me that what do you feel? I'm like I
1:19:13just feel like I'm not I'm not the
1:19:15player like I'm not that guy. He's like
1:19:18who's that guy like do you have that
1:19:20comparison? So and then I started
1:19:23mentioning names of other people like
1:19:25Oprah Winfrey is like other 20 names.
1:19:30>> And so then he made me write like 10
1:19:32things what do you do I like from other
1:19:34people and and then he made me like now
1:19:37imagine like these 10 qualities together
1:19:39you have.
1:19:39>> Oh
1:19:40>> and then you are so do you think that
1:19:42this guy is the player right? Who
1:19:44whoever will have these 10 qualities is
1:19:45that player.
1:19:46>> Now imagine yourself that you are that
1:19:48player. Forget there's whoever just see
1:19:52yourself and he made me w before every
1:19:55podcast he was like 10 minutes before
1:19:59watch yourself
1:20:00>> be that very relaxed be that friend be
1:20:03that fun guy be that sensitive guy
1:20:05whatever you think that whoever is that
1:20:07>> and I started doing that in five or 10
1:20:09podcast after that
1:20:11>> just change like now I don't there are
1:20:14times where you get little jitters
1:20:16>> but I don't change
1:20:17>> okay
1:20:17>> like you won't see that
1:20:22>> so to see yourself as the player is so
1:20:25important. Right. Yeah, it is
1:20:27>> that even if you're just talking, it
1:20:28feels like you become a different person
1:20:31if you start in your head feeling like
1:20:33you're
1:20:34best.
1:20:37>> Yeah. Your best version like it it
1:20:39doesn't have to be that.
1:20:43>> Yeah. I feel is a social media problem a
1:20:46lot now. Social media problem like
1:20:49because of social media everyone's
1:20:50available. It's human problem.
1:21:04comparison.
1:21:08Now all of a sudden there's like, oh,
1:21:10he's doing that fitness routine, she's
1:21:12doing that, he's doing that, that diet,
1:21:13she's doing that.
1:21:16Then it's just such a battle.
1:21:20What do you want and what your body is
1:21:22very different? Yeah.
1:21:24>> Like it's not necessarily what I do.
1:21:28Maybe some same person in the team will
1:21:30not be able to do and what she does I
1:21:32can't do it.
1:21:33>> True.
1:21:34>> Though we both play the same sport do
1:21:36the exact thing but it's a very
1:21:37different thing. So I as you said I mean
1:21:40what you your best is should be your
1:21:42best only.
1:21:43>> Yeah.
1:21:43>> And what is your routine should be your
1:21:45routines only.
1:21:46>> Fair.
1:21:46>> It can't be.
1:21:47>> Have you compared yourself to anyone
1:21:49ever in your head?
1:21:52So I didn't compare but I looked up to
1:21:55melaning quite a lot growing up. She's
1:21:58she was Australian captain and when I
1:22:00came into the scene she was like I mean
1:22:04she was like consistent at some some
1:22:06next level and I saw her
1:22:08>> flicking bowlers for sixes and at that
1:22:10time women's cricket not many would hit
1:22:13sixes. It's changed a lot now but time
1:22:15it was like a new thing and I saw that
1:22:16and I was like wow man like I want to
1:22:19bat like that someday. So not like a
1:22:22comparison but it was like a goal that
1:22:24you know you want to do something. So
1:22:26you want that one quality of her.
1:22:30>> Huh. I mean
1:22:31>> like not become a player like her but
1:22:34pick up that maybe that consistent
1:22:36flicking ability of her. Was it was it
1:22:39like that?
1:22:39>> Mostly her like she she would like walk
1:22:41the talk kind of a person. Yeah. You
1:22:43know like that's a pretty cool thing. I
1:22:45played with her again. we had we were
1:22:46playing for Manchester Super Jans and I
1:22:49was like wow
1:22:51we opened together and I was like okay
1:22:53nice I didn't show it to her that okay
1:22:55you know I've been I I played it pretty
1:22:57cool but uh but but yeah I was very
1:23:00happy and excited about it I was like
1:23:02wow I grown up watching her and now I'm
1:23:05batting with her
1:23:06>> so now see you felt excitement a little
1:23:08bit
1:23:10>> you don't feel a lot of excitement
1:23:11>> 10 minutes I said 10
1:23:16I was like
1:23:18once you once I entered the field and we
1:23:20start playing
1:23:24let me name like four top emotions of
1:23:27human beings and you tell me what do you
1:23:28feel about them like what's your
1:23:30definition of let's say anger like what
1:23:33do you think about anger
1:23:40>> what do you do when you're angry
1:23:42>> be quiet.
1:23:43>> Uh Jimmy somewhere said, "No, you give
1:23:45silent treatment."
1:23:46>> Ah, yeah. Be quiet. I'm very quiet.
1:23:48>> Which is worse.
1:23:50>> I don't know how it is for people.
1:23:53>> Yeah. But be quiet. I mean, I feel like
1:23:56because I feel it's a Cancerian trait
1:23:59that if you get angry, you could talk
1:24:01something which would hurt the other
1:24:03person a lot.
1:24:05So rather than hurting that person, just
1:24:08be quiet.
1:24:09>> Have there been in instances where
1:24:11>> Yeah. Yeah. every third
1:24:14fourth day something or the other
1:24:15happens and I feel like hitting a person
1:24:17and I'm just like
1:24:18>> I take half an hour I'll just be quiet
1:24:20about it and just I like after half an
1:24:22hour see most of the emotions after half
1:24:24an hour you're neutral about it
1:24:26>> that half an hour is the hardest to like
1:24:29manage
1:24:30but yeah I do get angry but
1:24:33>> not like somewhere where I lose what I'm
1:24:35saying I always want to be in control of
1:24:38what I'm saying
1:24:38>> but have you blasted where you're like
1:24:40you've just And you ended up hurting
1:24:42other person. So you realize that I
1:24:44should
1:24:44>> I could do that. I could do that.
1:24:46>> You must have.
1:24:46>> I have. I have done in my life.
1:24:48>> That's why you know it. You're aware of
1:24:49it. That's I know I could and I have
1:24:52done that in life and I don't think I
1:24:53should like there are times where of
1:24:56course you you do that. You're not like
1:24:57any you're human still.
1:25:00>> Yeah. But and then I realize that the
1:25:02friend who I've done that to just like
1:25:04gone and then I just feel like and the
1:25:07next moment you start feeling guilty
1:25:08that oh you made them go through that
1:25:11what you said.
1:25:13>> So that's when that makes me feel guilty
1:25:15that you know I put them in that sort of
1:25:17a space.
1:25:18>> So then I like then I kind of got it
1:25:21covered. Mhm.
1:25:22>> But yeah, anger is something no one
1:25:25resonates with me, but I have a lot of
1:25:27anger. But I just I'm very controlled
1:25:31person.
1:25:32>> Do you channelize that for a better
1:25:34thing?
1:25:37>> Only with batting only.
1:25:38>> But no, but do you feel
1:25:42like anger makes me worse person? Like
1:25:44it it makes me worse. So I go I'm silent
1:25:48and then I sleep because I know I can
1:25:50end up hurting someone right but there
1:25:52is a friend of mine who gets extremely
1:25:54angry and then starts writing what are
1:25:57the things which triggered him
1:25:59>> that what was the trigger
1:26:02and he's become much better person
1:26:04because he's like the things which used
1:26:05to make me angry or offend me doesn't
1:26:08anymore
1:26:10>> because some pattern maybe picked up
1:26:12from somebody
1:26:13>> so like normally randomly I wouldn't get
1:26:15angry on normal people but like your
1:26:17friends and your close people you get
1:26:19angry in a certain way
1:26:22>> at at moments I've realized it's better
1:26:24to be quiet and not do right wait
1:26:25nothing just just
1:26:27>> take a ch
1:26:31my worst moments or anger anger side of
1:26:34my channelizing is watching Mahabharat
1:26:37like I mean I'm a big mahar fan like for
1:26:40me
1:26:41>> what Krishna g says is like rules of
1:26:44life types I'm that sort of a person
1:26:46like my spirituality is like going by
1:26:49his preachings like that is my way of
1:26:52spirituality. So
1:26:54>> so yeah I watch some episode of
1:26:56Mahabharat and then sleep.
1:26:58>> What triggers you to get angry like what
1:27:00makes you angry?
1:27:01>> Anything?
1:27:03>> Tell me what's
1:27:04>> when you're driving and someone just
1:27:06crosses you for no reason.
1:27:07>> So you're short tempered like that.
1:27:09>> Yeah, I can be but again I don't
1:27:11necessarily say anything but
1:27:13>> but in your head.
1:27:14>> In your head. Yeah. Like
1:27:20I'm like that way. So So you you get
1:27:24angry but again
1:27:29all of a sudden you're like
1:27:31you got angry.
1:27:32>> Yeah. I got angry in my head like I told
1:27:37>> outside your zen like inside you're like
1:27:39full chaos going on.
1:27:41>> Huh? There can be anger. Yeah. I that's
1:27:43what I'm said. uh no one resonates with
1:27:45me but I'm a very like I could get very
1:27:47angry and I'm like don't take panga with
1:27:50me type person
1:27:51>> like till I don't come in your way don't
1:27:53come in my way.
1:27:54>> Do you take revenge?
1:27:55>> Huh? I won't take revenge but
1:28:00like I'll not forget it also but I won't
1:28:03do like bad things to that person nor I
1:28:06will not that way but I I'm pretty much
1:28:09like in my head I'm like you don't like
1:28:12till you're not coming in my I won't
1:28:14bother you but don't just come randomly
1:28:17follow me on in my way then I'm little
1:28:20kissa
1:28:20>> do you easily forgive people
1:28:24>> I forgive But I don't forget that's the
1:28:27problem. A but so XYZ let's say if
1:28:30somebody made you angry and hurt you
1:28:34that person won't matter to you after a
1:28:37while
1:28:40emotional trigger person if somebody
1:28:42comes in you like
1:28:47so emotional triggers are not there it's
1:28:48just like
1:28:52but
1:28:54like I won't spoil anyone's life.
1:28:58>> What do you feel about sad as an
1:29:00emotion? Grief, sadness.
1:29:06>> Go quiet.
1:29:08>> Tell me. Yeah.
1:29:09>> Like if you're sad, I think you just for
1:29:11me I feel I just go quiet. Yeah. For a
1:29:14very long time, I could be quiet and
1:29:16just within myself. Quiet is not like
1:29:18mon but quiet.
1:29:23Yeah. M
1:29:24>> and
1:29:25>> and for you know what I don't like
1:29:28biggest thing is that other person
1:29:29understanding that I'm sad is one big
1:29:31thing I hate sympathy
1:29:34>> any sort of sympathy oh like you're sad
1:29:38oh what happened you know that sympathy
1:29:41means again how do I explain like you
1:29:43know people will come and like
1:29:47if you're sad about it people will feel
1:29:48that you're sad about it and something
1:29:50big has happened and then they'll come
1:29:51and give sympathy so my life rule is
1:29:54that I don't want to be that person so
1:29:56that I don't get sympathy because I hate
1:29:58it. I'm like no I can manage like
1:30:05I'm fine like you know even if I've got
1:30:07doubt I've had a bad whatever world cup
1:30:10or I've had whatever time don't look at
1:30:12me as I don't like to portray myself
1:30:15like that I'm strong like not for the
1:30:18world also I'm just I I mean I'm strong
1:30:21I don't want that like
1:30:29Some people are naturally like but
1:30:32sometimes you know you maybe it's okay
1:30:35for them to for people to ask them are
1:30:37you okay I don't like it
1:30:39>> I don't like this questions are you okay
1:30:42>> why don't you like it
1:30:45>> yeah but I somehow I've never liked it
1:30:48as a person also I I don't know I just
1:30:50feel like I've lived my life a certain
1:30:52way And I don't think I'm answerable or
1:30:55all this sympathy kind of a thing like
1:30:58you know you just you just know like I
1:31:01don't know it's a very weird thing but I
1:31:03I can't take it that's why I never like
1:31:06that's why I never speak in interviews
1:31:07also around family issues or family
1:31:11issues like the rent
1:31:16>> I mean I'm not that I'm just like look
1:31:18at me like a happy soul look at me like
1:31:20that like get inspired by the game not
1:31:23by the story like know that sort of a
1:31:25person I am
1:31:26>> fair but there's why don't you like when
1:31:30people look at the sad part
1:31:34>> because there's so much nice
1:31:36>> which is people are celebrating you for
1:31:39the nice things but if somebody wants to
1:31:41know about the sad part
1:31:47see that I feel is um for me and my
1:31:51family to take and for my near ones to
1:31:53take like
1:31:56like tomorrow we become best friends and
1:31:58we going out on coffee and I I still
1:32:00hide everything and not tell you
1:32:02everything. I I'll be an open book.
1:32:03Well,
1:32:04>> the world you don't want.
1:32:05>> But h I mean what's the point, right?
1:32:08>> I don't want any extra likes or these
1:32:13things because of that like I would
1:32:17rather have people liking my work, my
1:32:20game, my cricket
1:32:21>> which is true
1:32:22>> and that is what I have chose for people
1:32:24to know. That's the life I have chose to
1:32:28like I can't hide my cricketing part of
1:32:31it. So if you have asked me anything
1:32:32around cricket cricketing mindset how I
1:32:34feel that's not something which I would
1:32:36hide also because that's part of my life
1:32:38which I have chose that people has to
1:32:41know because I've chose to play cricket
1:32:43for India so it has to happen but the
1:32:46other part of it I don't think that
1:32:49that's something I have chose to share.
1:32:52>> Fair.
1:32:52>> Yeah. Like you know that's why I never
1:32:55said any story around my growing up or
1:32:58anything.
1:32:59>> Crazy. Do you enjoy fame
1:33:03>> on ground? Yes.
1:33:07Like
1:33:09like on the field when I go and there
1:33:10are there's like full full sold out
1:33:13stadium and they are chanting my name or
1:33:15chanting India and we're playing
1:33:17that's a very nice feeling. It's like I
1:33:20look around and I'm like wow women's
1:33:22cricket has reached here and it's it's a
1:33:24nice feeling like to be fair I like I
1:33:25love it
1:33:26>> and that's where I enjoy it the most
1:33:28when I'm batting I'm taking stance and
1:33:30people are chanting my name that's it I
1:33:32feel like oh wow this is cool
1:33:35once I'm off that boundary rope I'm
1:33:37extremely shy like I'll be shy in an
1:33:40elevator I'll be shy in a cafe if I'm
1:33:43sitting in a cafe and someone if I hear
1:33:45from someone
1:33:47I'm like
1:33:50You know, like I'm very shy. So
1:33:54>> when people come to you, do you get
1:33:55awkward?
1:33:55>> I very very awkward. I don't know how to
1:33:58have a conversation. I still don't know.
1:34:00>> You're like, "Yeah, ma'am, please like
1:34:01picture." And then you're like, "Oh,
1:34:03bye."
1:34:06You know, I'm like, "Hello." Or like if
1:34:07at all I'm eating or something, I'll be
1:34:09like, "No, I'll give once I'm done
1:34:11eating. I can't eat and give you food."
1:34:14Do you like leave your food and just
1:34:16stand and then click and or you finish?
1:34:18>> I'm not that nice.
1:34:19>> You're not that nice.
1:34:22>> I mean to say like Yeah. I just feel
1:34:25like someone's eating food. They're also
1:34:26humans. Let them eat and we can I'm not
1:34:29like rude.
1:34:30>> I just like request key I'm eating and
1:34:32we'll finish and
1:34:35>> but yeah, I'm very shy. So once I'm off
1:34:37that rope, it's like two personalities
1:34:39there. I would like Yes. Nice. This is
1:34:42cool. Once I'm off it and signing
1:34:44autographs and all also in stadium
1:34:46itself, it's like
1:34:49I mean I'm not like I'll be shy around
1:34:52it. So yeah, there's two I don't know if
1:34:55I enjoy fame or not. So it's like 50/50
1:34:59kind of a thing.
1:35:00>> There's there's a there's an athlete
1:35:02self and there's
1:35:03>> yeah athletes Miti Mahan the cricketer.
1:35:05I think she loves it. The person I don't
1:35:07think she
1:35:08>> she's too keen on it. uh much more
1:35:11private than than frustration.
1:35:19I only know emotions which are there in
1:35:20that movie that animated movie.
1:35:25>> Jimmy made me watch it
1:35:26>> inside. Inside Jimmy made me sit and
1:35:30watch it because I'm not an animation
1:35:31person. Sit and watch it.
1:35:32>> Was it good? Did you like it?
1:35:34>> It's cute. It's nice.
1:35:35>> So many people talk about I've never
1:35:36seen it.
1:35:37>> Oh, I mean so many emotions, you know.
1:35:38You should watch it.
1:35:41It's nice.
1:35:45>> No, but it's cute. It's emotions
1:35:47explained in a very cute way.
1:35:49>> Okay.
1:35:50>> So, have you felt frustrated like
1:35:52frustration, helplessness?
1:35:58>> Not really. Not like for a very long
1:36:01period of time.
1:36:01>> Not even at the time when you were going
1:36:03through an injury and you couldn't you
1:36:05didn't know will the next when will the
1:36:07next day come? 30 40 minutes again like
1:36:11maybe 30 minute rule maybe a day or
1:36:12something when you're injured you've got
1:36:14an ACL and I was like okay yeah I
1:36:16remember
1:36:18>> so we the contracts were introduced for
1:36:20the first time for women in 2016
1:36:23>> and um that's when I got the first house
1:36:26which was like 3 BHK sangi and I bought
1:36:30that house and in a month's time I got
1:36:33injured I was like oh god
1:36:37like I don't what to do. I had ACL at
1:36:40that time and I was like how would I pay
1:36:42this thing back and all of that stuff
1:36:45and um then I felt for that that
1:36:49restlessness of that 2 three days and I
1:36:52was like he kept going the world cup is
1:36:54in 5 months let's just focus to get fit
1:36:57let's see what happens after that at
1:36:58least
1:37:08Like once you've stared there, you don't
1:37:10worry to come back there. Like when you
1:37:12worry when you're always there and then
1:37:14you're just like, "Oh, you don't know
1:37:15that life." So I was like
1:37:18all this happened at 2017 World Cup
1:37:20happened
1:37:22>> and I somehow I got fit and I managed
1:37:24God kind of helped me in all my ways.
1:37:27Got fit. We played that World Cup. It
1:37:31went well. Women's cricket was
1:37:33introduced in India. All of a sudden
1:37:34like women's cricket was a household
1:37:36name and all of those things happened. I
1:37:38come back
1:37:40and we got prize monies and all of that
1:37:43and I ended up buying the other flat
1:37:45like how God like changed the whole kind
1:37:49of a thing. It's like 6 months back I
1:37:50was like
1:37:54flat. But after 6 months, I ended up
1:37:56buying one flat adjacent to that one.
1:37:58Just I said that's a God's way of doing
1:38:02things.
1:38:03>> Nice. What was the hardest
1:38:07moment or hardest night for you
1:38:11in your life?
1:38:12>> Um,
1:38:14hardest night.
1:38:23I'm thinking
1:38:26probably
1:38:29like some world cups only like we've
1:38:31lost and I've not slept.
1:38:35I'll I'll only speak about cricket
1:38:37anyways. Yeah, I mean yeah it has to I
1:38:42think even co I think is pretty
1:38:43difficult time.
1:38:44>> What happened? Nothing happened in such
1:38:47it's just that whole stuff was happening
1:38:50when we not as cricket is not in one
1:38:53room for a very long time like you know
1:38:56it's very vulnerable place you've always
1:38:58been on road we've had something to now
1:39:00all of a sudden everything's at halt
1:39:02first one month you enjoyed family
1:39:04everything and then
1:39:05>> all of a sudden there's so many uh
1:39:08everyone's dying around you something is
1:39:10happening so many vulnerabilities and
1:39:12then that fear of losing out on your own
1:39:14people. I think that was that whole two
1:39:16three months were pretty like difficult
1:39:18times. You just kept
1:39:21like
1:39:25you know it was just a very especially
1:39:27the second wave. Yeah. my uh Bhav's um
1:39:31like mom she lost we lost her in Indor
1:39:35and uh
1:39:37so it was a pretty like hard time for
1:39:40and she was I mean she's pregnant with
1:39:41Rein so it was like yeah we lost and
1:39:45that whole thing happened when I was
1:39:47also there and then it just felt like
1:39:49after that for six seven days it was
1:39:52like a little yeah so that I feel those
1:39:55times were a little vulnerable huh like
1:39:57in general Not even that that moment but
1:40:00even every time you got a call from a
1:40:03friend that someone's friend is in
1:40:05hospital like something is happening and
1:40:07the bed is not there what to do and it's
1:40:09like a very like you didn't know what to
1:40:11do so I think that was pretty
1:40:14>> I would say a difficult time for all of
1:40:16us for me I mean I I didn't know what to
1:40:19like do and
1:40:20>> for me co was everyone talks about it
1:40:24and personally it was not as hard even
1:40:28and I saw my dad got co and then we had
1:40:31to like you know he had to go to the
1:40:33hospital and then he's a diabetic
1:40:35patient
1:40:37>> so for you know that whole hype
1:40:40injection something which was there
1:40:45>> lung collapse and all of that was going
1:40:47on
1:40:48>> and everyone was making it a thing that
1:40:51this is scary what's I was optimistic
1:40:57So maybe somehow because my dad got it
1:41:01and I was optimistic obviously this is
1:41:03just
1:41:04>> he'll come back he'll come back and I
1:41:06saw him coming back and then he got fine
1:41:08so I became optimistic throughout
1:41:11>> maybe
1:41:12>> and we didn't see anyone touchwood
1:41:14>> like nearby at least with in my
1:41:17immediate family we didn't see anyone
1:41:20>> a lot of people got co and they got
1:41:21saved
1:41:22>> okay
1:41:22>> so for me it was Mhm.
1:41:24>> And not as hard
1:41:26>> as other people.
1:41:27>> No. Yeah. But in general, the whole time
1:41:30was very hard.
1:41:31>> Yeah. It was like you put out, you see
1:41:34social media, everything's like
1:41:36something's happened to someone. So it's
1:41:39just like those five six months only
1:41:41just felt very I would say I would maybe
1:41:44those nights I would not sleep the best.
1:41:47>> Yeah. because you're with and is it
1:41:53like who gets to know the first whenever
1:41:57something's hard with you?
1:42:00>> Maybe my brother.
1:42:02>> You share everything with him?
1:42:04>> Yeah, I share most of the things with
1:42:05him. So,
1:42:06>> how old is he?
1:42:07>> He's 4 years older to me.
1:42:09>> So, not that like it's almost very
1:42:11close.
1:42:12>> Same like we me and my brother. My
1:42:13brother's a younger brother.
1:42:14>> Okay. But four years
1:42:16>> same like my he's four years elder to
1:42:18me. So he's I think I speak to him only
1:42:22like what is like happening like after a
1:42:24few days of thinking by myself and
1:42:26trying to figure out my solution and
1:42:28then I'm like okay fine mostly him.
1:42:30Yeah.
1:42:31>> Okay. I have uh okay so I usually ask
1:42:33this question to everyone is what is one
1:42:36advice nobody should follow?
1:42:41I don't think only you should follow any
1:42:47I think you should only follow what life
1:42:49teaches you
1:42:51like.
1:42:52>> What do you mean? But there's So you
1:42:53feel like people should not follow any
1:42:55advice? No,
1:42:56>> no, they can't follow advices. But
1:42:58>> what is one advice that you hate? Like
1:42:59you're like it's a advice.
1:43:02>> Why you thinking so much?
1:43:11How can I not be? I can't be chill about
1:43:14my batting, right? I can't be chill
1:43:15about cricket.
1:43:16>> Nice.
1:43:16>> I mean, it's like
1:43:21that's something which I feel is stupid.
1:43:23>> Nice. Very nice.
1:43:25>> Well, that's the only thing which I feel
1:43:26is stupid. Otherwise, I feel like of
1:43:28course I also listen to I love podcasts.
1:43:31I listen to a lot of podcasts. like
1:43:34video necessarily I wouldn't watch but
1:43:36>> the podcast would be on
1:43:38>> and I do take a lot of advices. I loved
1:43:40Michael Phelps stuff with you and what
1:43:43he spoke about how he's working with
1:43:45suicidal
1:43:46>> I think people and how he's helping them
1:43:49all of those things. So I do believe in
1:43:52taking advices but you should not take
1:43:54advice because they're successful.
1:43:56>> You should take advice because they're
1:43:57relatable to you.
1:43:59>> Interesting. Like there might be four
1:44:02cricketers
1:44:04who talk and they're great. They've been
1:44:06successful. I should also know who I'm
1:44:08relating more with, right? It should be
1:44:11relatable. I can't be a different
1:44:13person.
1:44:14And if I'm trying to be different person
1:44:17just because that person is like that is
1:44:19wrong. I want to be that person. I
1:44:20understand. So yeah, that's one thing
1:44:22which I think everyone should stop like
1:44:24they should not if they're relating to
1:44:26me then listen to me otherwise just
1:44:28don't
1:44:29>> interesting. I like that first line that
1:44:32you said.
1:44:34That is such a fresh advice to have.
1:44:37Such a fresh take.
1:44:48Okay, you can think about it half an
1:44:50hour and you're overthinking that and
1:44:52people coming because you're not part of
1:44:54that.
1:44:55>> You might not like people can still tell
1:44:58that
1:45:02I am defined by what I do there.
1:45:04>> True.
1:45:04>> And you are telling me not to think
1:45:06about that and just enjoy.
1:45:09So that's
1:45:10>> true. Last question is what's
1:45:14so we have a wall it's called cost of
1:45:16ambition. M cost of ambition
1:45:18>> ambition. So like I love asking really
1:45:20successful people
1:45:22>> what cost have they paid for their
1:45:24ambition. The question for you is
1:45:27what cost what is the cost of becoming
1:45:32mand
1:45:36less of family time that's the only cost
1:45:40I think otherwise I'm pretty happy
1:45:43like I missed school I missed college
1:45:45and all of those things are there but
1:45:47I'm not I am happy but like lesser
1:45:51home time less of time with family and
1:45:53lesser time with your friends is
1:45:55something which is I think cost of where
1:45:58you are because we travel so much.
1:46:00>> Does it bother you less time with your
1:46:03family?
1:46:05>> Yeah, it it does bother me in a way
1:46:07where when you're there you just want to
1:46:09spend a few more days but ambition takes
1:46:12over. I mean like you just want to get
1:46:14back to work as well. So but luckily I
1:46:18mean my parents are like they travel a
1:46:20lot with me again. They come with me. My
1:46:21brother comes a lot. So I'm around in
1:46:24and around them quite a lot. So which is
1:46:25nice. If that was also not happening
1:46:27then I would have felt even worse. But
1:46:30uh but yeah sometimes that just one
1:46:33regular life without a suitcase
1:46:37get up to a same place have a set
1:46:38routine and have set of coffee and you
1:46:41know it's a very distant dream for us
1:46:43you know it's like
1:46:45>> it's because we we don't do that a lot
1:46:48and for me like
1:46:49>> I feel like that's poster tab for sure
1:46:52whenever but I think that's something
1:46:53like just no plain simple life nothing
1:46:56fancy around it just normal
1:46:59just wake up without an alarm. It's like
1:47:02you would privilege not to have like
1:47:04wake up without an alarm, do your stuff
1:47:08like cook your food and those small
1:47:10small little joys of life you I mean
1:47:12it's hard to get
1:47:14>> which is
1:47:14>> but I'm very happy having said that
1:47:17>> but I'm very happy where I am but yeah
1:47:19that's something which sometimes you
1:47:20miss
1:47:21>> a part of me miss at least now in last
1:47:24because from the time
1:47:25>> in last 2 three years time time I've
1:47:28crossed 28 28
1:47:31I don't care
1:47:34>> you. Thank you so much for doing this.
1:47:37Thank you for opening up, for sharing so
1:47:39many things, for
1:47:42>> for actually thinking with me during the
1:47:44time on so many things. It was really
1:47:47fun having you. Thank you so much.
1:47:49>> Thank you for having me.
1:47:50>> Hi Raj, nice to meet you.
1:47:52>> Hello.
1:47:52>> Hello. Nice to meet you.
1:47:54>> Have a seat. a few podcasts I think
1:47:56Michael Phelps I've seen a little like
1:47:58the snippets I've seen is very nice very
1:48:00inspiring
1:48:02>> I love doing athlete athlete mindset
1:48:04kind of podcast in my head I'm like this
1:48:07is a game for me I'm an athlete here and
1:48:09I need to train
1:48:10>> enough to win
1:48:11>> because we also have rankings we also
1:48:13have certain things it's like this is a
1:48:15game that I'm playing
1:48:15>> okay
1:48:16>> and I relate with a lot of athletes and
1:48:17that's why all the athlete podcast that
1:48:19I do is like lot around personal and
1:48:23mindset way more than about 100 cup mari
1:48:27winner cup first cup all that I do like
1:48:29I love what you're thinking thank you
1:48:31for watching this episode till the end
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