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0:00welcome back not enough projects today
0:02we are back on the 1948 Packard super 8.
0:06last time we got this thing running
0:07after sitting for almost 40 years this
0:10time we're gonna try to get it driving
0:11hopefully do a yard drive by the end of
0:12this video I think we're going to start
0:14by tearing into the fuel system so let's
0:16get to it and that's pretty nice today
0:17we got rain and snow going on so I threw
0:19the hood back on and to anybody who was
0:21yelling at me at first I now realize
0:25that the hood doesn't have a hinge it's
0:27got the safety catches which I was I
0:29knew about and then there's these
0:32latches that are actuated on each side
0:34of the car from inside
0:38right here there's one on both sides and
0:41that sucks the hood down and it opens up
0:43to the side just like that
0:45by only undoing one of these and lifting
0:48it up and putting the hole on before we
0:51even try to hook up the fuel tank or a
0:53fuel tank to the fuel pump or whatever I
0:55took this off because I figured there's
0:57a fuel filter in here
0:58and
1:00never seen anything like this
1:02it's just like a weird fiber piece it's
1:05not like normal filter
1:07but I guess it's how
1:09it was done back in the day
1:11looks like she's brand new too
1:13because I wouldn't be surprised if this
1:15carb has a new rebuild kit in it
1:18so set that to the side and see if we
1:20can fill just from in here
1:24you know I don't even see an accelerator
1:25bumper here
1:28there's an extra linkage with like a
1:30little diaphragm
1:34this has been an old style Carter but
1:36maybe it's so small and such a big
1:38engine it doesn't need one I don't know
1:42so we'll throw a little bit dinner
1:43through
1:44I gotta go turn the ignition on and
1:46we'll see if she just runs off the curb
1:48all right here we go
1:50[Music]
2:03and it seems like it's not
2:05working properly
2:07because you can see it'll keep running
2:09if I bottle feed it but
2:11it looks like the level in the bowl is
2:13going down
2:15but maybe the Jets plugged up with some
2:17crap so it's not flown quite enough yeah
2:19it kind of seems like the idle circuit
2:20support dip because it'll run off the
2:23carb if I hold the throttle open a
2:25decent amount yeah so I think the carp's
2:28gonna have to come off and come apart
2:30but that's not a big deal it's a pretty
2:32simple carb
2:34drank the whole bottle guessing the fuel
2:36economy on these rigs is
2:38uh not optimal now let's get that card
2:41popped off
2:42the bottom of the cart
2:45I wonder if that's some kind of vacuum
2:47line I can't see where it goes down to
2:49because we've got the hood on yeah
2:50before we pulled it off I should have
2:52done the old rebuild with your hand
2:54trick when you rev It Up
2:56plug your hand over in the vacuum will
2:58pull calcium
3:01circuits
3:03that we're already this far that's the
3:05successor then that's met oh here's the
3:08exterior pump it to it on the back side
3:11I'm sure the diagram sort of shot
3:15got a couple hard lines let me show you
3:17here
3:18so we've got this coming off the exhaust
3:20manifold I'm sure it's probably a heat
3:22riser
3:23to warm the carb up or um
3:26oh I see
3:27this is the choke
3:29it looks like
3:30um
3:32it's similar to an electric choke which
3:35basically it starts disengaging the
3:39choke as a heating element heats up from
3:41the electricity
3:43this is the same principle I'm guessing
3:45I don't know where it just takes the
3:47heat from the exhaust manifold once the
3:49exhaust gases heat up the choke coil
3:52enough the coil starts disengaging the
3:56choke and we actually saw that happening
3:57I think if that wasn't just me messing
4:00with the throttle
4:02it's already loose
4:04okay then we've got
4:06a small little heart line down here I'm
4:08guessing it's a vacuum line
4:10I don't see what else it could be that's
4:13a tiny little guy
4:15what is that 3 8 maybe sure we're not
4:17gonna spin the line with the nut
4:20we're good
4:22we also have what I'm guessing is the
4:26kick down switch Maybe
4:32honestly not sure
4:34I thought this was part of the
4:36um
4:37choke initially but it's not this is
4:39obviously the choke and it's not
4:42controlled by the electric
4:44signal it's by the heat from the
4:46manifold so I'm guessing that's the kick
4:48down for the overdrive because it'll
4:50automatically kick down
4:52and anyways we need a flathead for that
4:54so grab that they're just here uh is
4:57this live right now
5:00I would hope not I don't know what that
5:02noise was sounded like a spark I don't
5:05know if you heard it
5:06there we go
5:08have we still got some smokeage coming
5:11out yeah we got some crud done on the
5:14intake looks like well that's just gas I
5:17think down there and then we have a tiny
5:19bit of surface rust there's a little
5:20fuzzy down there
5:25save that gasket get this covered up and
5:27then we can take the carb over to the
5:30bench and get it torn down all right
5:31let's pop this carb apart and see what
5:34we're working with not even one and a
5:36half turns out
5:38not really too pretty
5:41just about one turnout
5:43this should give us access to the Bowl
5:48see if I get smaller Flathead
5:51I don't know if you guys can see that
5:52but it's cast into the curve it says oil
5:55under screws different sizes
6:00short one goes over here
6:05okay that just gives us access to the
6:08linkages okay
6:10so here's our accelerator pump oh no
6:12this might be uh
6:17kind of a funky setup
6:19we got a switch here or some kind of
6:22valve here on both sides yes I think
6:24this is the accelerator pump but it
6:26doesn't
6:28get actuated
6:31throttle linkage moving
6:34and I would I'm guessing because I don't
6:36I haven't actually looks an exploded
6:37diagram of this card or anything there's
6:39the plunger and it pushes down and
6:42squirts fuel through some kind of
6:44Passage but you can see it doesn't move
6:47with the rest of the linkage
6:51nor is it supposed to it looks like it's
6:53supposed to be like that but it is
6:55connected by a spring
6:58oh there we go seized up okay Frida
7:03so yeah this is our accelerator pump I
7:04think who knows if it's gonna work
7:07okay
7:08there's some screws down here
7:11might be like a drain
7:16oh wait that might not be a screw
7:20plugs I think they're just plugs well
7:23let's pop the top off of this section
7:27looks like there's some different leg
7:29screws too
7:30long one back here
7:33and I don't remember
7:36the other one
7:37I don't really see
7:40how it matters because they're both the
7:42same length casting so oil under screws
7:46oh I see okay so when you take the
7:49screws out
7:50these are drilled all the way through to
7:52the shaft and the oil just seeps down to
7:55the shaft to make sure it stays
7:57lubricated here and here
7:59lots of oil points on this car well all
8:01old cars but I think I did it off camera
8:03but I did oil the generator
8:08bearings just because I was wondering if
8:09those were making the noise
8:13that horrible squealing noise which it
8:15kind of has gone away
8:18I guess it may be the belt slipping I
8:20don't know how tight it is I haven't
8:22really looked at it very closely
8:26oh nope gotta take the linkage off
8:34kind of nifty
8:38so we've got a square there and a
8:40linkage and
8:42this little retaining clip is also
8:43squared so you push it down and twist it
8:45off it comes
8:48we're hitting on whatever that is
8:53no there's your flute
8:59but we're hitting here so
9:02take that linkage off
9:05something to do with the choke limiting
9:07the choke
9:08oh
9:09we probably have to take
9:11this top section of the cargo first
9:18figuring this spring out is going to be
9:20fun
9:22I didn't mention it before this is a
9:24Carter wdo
9:26because it was used on some pretty big
9:29number of older cars and Studebakers or
9:31well obviously Packards I don't know
9:34what else used them but
9:36I've never messed with them before safe
9:38to say
9:39it would be weird if there's only those
9:40two screws but I can't see
9:45any others
9:49surprised if you had to take the whole
9:51thing apart just to clean it
9:57it's definitely hitting right there
9:59yeah
10:02it's inside
10:04a new washer
10:06there we go
10:10gaskets intact still so that's good
10:12so there's our choke Tower
10:15got a couple Jets right there
10:17those may be the squirters for the
10:22um
10:24accelerator pump
10:26just guessing
10:28but maybe for something else
10:30because maybe that may be our Idol
10:33circuit it comes in from there
10:35I don't know I'm just guessing obviously
10:39see if our gasket will come off on
10:41Escape
10:43nice
10:48now this should be able to come out
10:53yep
10:56that went there I think these are
10:58meeting metering rods I'm no carb expert
11:01but
11:02think that's what these are
11:05here's our
11:07accelerator pump
11:12that seal probably will come back
11:16doesn't look terrible
11:20and our needle and seat
11:25does appear to be working at least let's
11:27see
11:30cover that hole
11:36yeah it's working that's good
11:40bowl is a little dirty
11:43just some Rust it's not
11:47the worst but yeah definitely needs
11:50cleaned
11:51and we've got some Jets down in there
11:57luckily that came out easy
12:09with the bowl looking like it is these
12:12are probably filthy
12:13and plugged
12:25that's actually a really big
12:27Passage
12:29not plugged at all but we'll take it out
12:33hopefully not forget where it goes
12:38looks okay too
12:44here's the accelerator pump spring
12:49more Jets up here
12:54you gotta be careful with these because
12:55a lot of times they're made out of brass
12:58and if you don't get the screwdriver in
13:00just right they'll
13:02go
13:03and well the threads are a lot of times
13:05gold and when you try to turn it if you
13:09don't have a screwdriver that fits
13:10really well
13:11it'll
13:12just totally round off the the flat you
13:16can see even with that it kind of made a
13:18spot this look okay too
13:23pretty big jets
13:25see these are like valves
13:28or something
13:30looks like they've got a hex that turns
13:32out so we'll get a couple more Jets way
13:34down in there
13:36let's see if we can get those out
13:37luckily nothing in this carb is
13:40too crazy stuck I'm sure these aren't
13:42the easiest to find or the cheapest
13:45that one looks plugged up maybe where
13:48our issue is
13:50same story here
13:53going to do it
13:55see that's likely I'm guessing our idle
14:00circuit
14:02makes sense because they're kind of in
14:03line with the idle mix screws don't know
14:06if there's anything else we really need
14:07to take apart you take the this top
14:11portion off of the
14:13lower throttle body area but I don't
14:16think we need to do that should be able
14:18to just blow through all of these
14:20passages with carb clean maybe we'll
14:23take these plugs out I don't know where
14:25that gets us another Jack because that's
14:27good we took those out we have a couple
14:29seals it looks like
14:32just leave them
14:34these are big
14:39it's like our seal came out with that
14:40one yeah I'm curious what's our where
14:42throttle Chef plays like there's some
14:45but it's not crazy sloppy
14:48oh yeah we're gonna pop these out
14:52I don't know what size these are not
14:54three eighths not seven sixteenths
14:56this size yeah there you go
15:01I don't know what that is
15:04just a throttle linkage
15:09see how much I can get my eyes
15:14let that sit for a while
15:16that's taking off all this paint
15:19yeah look at that bubbling all of it off
15:23curious if the uh accelerator pump will
15:27come back
15:29I feel like building suction so it might
15:33that's going to be our biggest thing is
15:34if we got to replace that seal in case
15:36we should probably go through and clean
15:37all this stuff too
15:40you know that stuff's pretty good
15:42so we can clean these Jets
15:46yeah we're gonna have to push something
15:47through there something really thin uh
15:50like a strand from copper wire that'll
15:52do that or a wire brush bristle
15:56thin enough
15:59yeah man that is clogged solid
16:01there we go yeah I'm guessing that was
16:03our issue
16:06yeah there we go one down oh that one
16:10wasn't as bad the other one was like
16:12plugged solid could hardly push this
16:14through it
16:16yeah there we go these valves there's
16:20some grime
16:22but overall they actually look fine
16:24apparently carb cleaner is not
16:26compatible with Band-Aids
16:28these mixture screws are fine too this
16:31bowl just needs a little bit more love
16:34then I think we're gonna be fine just
16:37slapping it back together
16:39didn't even break any gaskets which is
16:41pretty sweet for something this old you
16:43can get rebuild kits for these I found
16:45they're only like 50 bucks too but I
16:48mean there's not much to replace in here
16:50it's just the gaskets really in the
16:52accelerator pump seal but the newer
16:55style carbs
16:56um when the accelerator pumps instead of
16:58a plunger like this
17:01with this seal a lot of them have a
17:04rubber diaphragm that flexes and that's
17:06how it pumps the fuel those diaphragms
17:09dry out
17:10pretty often when stuff is sitting and
17:14they'll get brittle and crack and
17:15obviously they're not going to pump
17:17so those ones fail I think this one
17:19might come back
17:20just because it's because of the type of
17:22seal that it is but we'll see worst case
17:24we've got to get a new seal for it not a
17:26big deal
17:27cool looks like we got all this stuff
17:28out let's go over
17:31some of these ceiling surfaces with a
17:33razor blade there's some residual cork
17:36or whatever on this
17:38lower surface should have done this
17:40before we cleaned it
17:43or maybe we should have left it so they
17:44would seal with the
17:46gasket that was left on the intake
17:48manifold but whatever we're already this
17:50far okay I think we're looking pretty
17:52good now
17:54we just remember everything goes back
17:55which
17:57hopefully won't be that bad since I just
17:59took it apart
18:01and I got the video
18:03think these were here
18:06yeah it seems right
18:09carbs are usually made out of like pot
18:11metal basically just like
18:13I don't really know I think it's like
18:14zinc and all kinds of weird stuff that
18:16they just pour into castings and it's
18:19kind of brittle and not very strong
18:22so you got to be careful when you're
18:23screwing stuff in you really don't need
18:25to Reef on it
18:27where should we take jet out of got two
18:30more left
18:32it's on the outside wasn't just trying
18:33to pull its seal out oh yeah it wasn't
18:36here we got our seals
18:40inner plugs basically the seal over time
18:43has I don't know if it's shrunk or wet
18:45but it doesn't let the plug go through
18:48so I'm just threading them on
18:51before we put the plug down
18:54as well do our mix screws while we're
18:56here
18:57we'll go uh turn and a half out on both
19:00of them one two well
19:03three half turns so turn and a half out
19:05cool and we'll get this upper section
19:08back on everything here looked okay as
19:10far as I could see gasket's in good
19:12shape
19:14this is getting stuck a little bit maybe
19:16I'll try to oil it or something okay
19:18that seemed to help other than that we
19:20should be good in here
19:22I'm gonna put these
19:24rods back in see I think these are
19:26vacuum operated I'm gonna make sure we
19:29get our spring back on here
19:33we did after the leave yeah it should go
19:36like that
19:38okay there we go
19:40Saturday pumps moving
19:43so basically
19:45what this linkage is doing it looks like
19:47I'm just guessing here because I'm no
19:50expert on a Carver wdo by any means when
19:53we're Full Throttle
19:57this does not this linkage does not
20:00allow those rods to go down or closed
20:03throttle the rods can either
20:04remain up
20:06for
20:09they can move down or not I don't know
20:12why it's not going down so the rods go
20:14down into those Jets we saw so it should
20:17rich in the mixture when it's up so we
20:19go Full Throttle yet that would make
20:21sense because it Full Throttle forces
20:24the rods up enriches the mixture I don't
20:27know maybe the plunger is just
20:30to basically work with the spring and
20:33force the rods up I don't know not a big
20:36deal
20:36that we don't know because that's just
20:39how it works I am a little confused on
20:42these uh valves because it doesn't look
20:44like at any point they could open
20:48think I don't think our throttle step
20:51screws too far out
20:52I mean it'll press them down a little
20:54bit maybe that's all it needs I don't
20:56know question is which one does the
20:58little screw go to
20:59oh I wonder if these are supposed to
21:02both be
21:03short screws for the cover
21:06and somebody mixed them up at some point
21:07because the short screw doesn't really
21:10make sense here
21:11so you have a few threads it's grabbing
21:15I think that's what we're dealing with
21:17plus that long one was the one giving us
21:18trouble on the cover so
21:21makes sense
21:22that it doesn't belong there oh shoot
21:25we forgot our accelerator pump return
21:28spring didn't we whoops at least I
21:30noticed it now
21:32follow the instructions it'll boil under
21:34the screws
21:35get that linkage sorted
21:38hopefully our excitatory pump will work
21:39now
21:40here pushing air
21:43that's a good sign cool
21:45cover on
21:48you pressure get our choke tower on
21:51don't think anything in here needs
21:52cleaned maybe I'll spray through those
21:55Jets right there
21:57yes it's going through the passage
21:59it should be good there oh look at that
22:03screw
22:04there's a little jet passage in it
22:08clean now that should be our inner one
22:13that makes sense because that's where
22:14the
22:15Jets we sprayed out right before feed
22:18from this one here
22:22got a brass tag with all the paint
22:24coming off of it it's kind of a needle
22:26logo look at that Carter
22:29car
22:30beer Carter carburetor pretty neat final
22:35linkage here it's for a choke
22:38gotta figure out how the spring goes
22:40kind of a funky spring
22:43should go something like that
22:47there we go I think that makes sense
22:49Maybe
22:54that seem right
22:57not really
22:59Maybe
23:03maybe like that
23:07yeah Spring's not doing anything I'm
23:10gonna look back at the video and see if
23:11I can see how that went yeah I think
23:13that's correct ish so it should be fine
23:16it's just the chocolate [ __ ] definitely
23:18got that
23:19screw inside tight I would hate for that
23:21to fall in the engine
23:23other than that
23:26I think we can bolt it back up oh yeah
23:27we got our little
23:29filter thing but we're going to feed
23:31through there anyways so we can leave it
23:33open for now
23:34so yeah let's get it bolted up and see
23:37if it can run now without having to
23:39bottle feed it I love the names they
23:40gave stuff like this in the
23:43you know back in the 40s 50s Carter
23:45climatic control
23:50this day and
23:54yeah that makes sense see if that works
23:56also that
23:57I don't know if I told you guys when I
23:59was researching I found out this thing
24:00wasn't they called an electromatic
24:02clutch basically it's like an auto stick
24:04where it basically just does the clutch
24:06engagement automatically apparently it's
24:07kind of trouble Chrome it's hard to find
24:09one that works so I doubt ours is going
24:11to work but the overdrive is gonna be
24:12nice yay
24:14should be good let's grab some gas I
24:17guess and see if she'll light off the
24:18ignition is on let's fill up the bowl
24:21see if we got accelerator pump
24:25getting that cranks when you do the
24:27throttle let's turn the ignition up and
24:29check accelerator pump just curious
24:34unfortunately not but that's no big deal
24:36it should still run without it it'll
24:38just be you know sluggish
24:40throttle opening
24:43here we go let's give her a little bit
24:45throat
24:48see what happens
24:58yeah ran pretty good
25:02it does feel like it's still got that
25:04little Mist but it actually feels like
25:06it's clearing up even
25:10yeah it does feel like it's clearing up
25:13ran a net of gas so I guess now we just
25:16got to see if the fuel pump's working
25:17and we can maybe take it for a little
25:19spin around the yard it's pretty
25:21exciting
25:22um cooling system it's freezing hard now
25:25at night so obviously I don't want to
25:27just put water in it but I guess I could
25:29hook up that heater hose we could throw
25:30some antifreeze in it we're probably
25:31good to run it for you know five minutes
25:33or whatever no coolant I don't want to
25:36run it too long though antifreeze is
25:38just expensive you know so
25:40it's always a little Annoying wasting 20
25:43bucks or whatever just with coolant and
25:46we got a bad leak somewhere
25:48I mean we're gonna have to do it anyway
25:49so maybe I'll just throw some in Just
25:51for kicks
25:52but yeah maybe let's throw like I don't
25:54know a couple gallons in the tank
25:56I know it's Rusty but let's throw a
25:59couple gallons in the tank see if the
26:01pump works and maybe see what kind of
26:03gas is coming out and we did see the
26:05tank was taken out to paint or hopefully
26:09to clean it but it does look kind of
26:10rusty probably just from sitting maybe
26:13it was cleaned but it's painted nice
26:15black hopefully they hooked up the lines
26:19I don't know
26:22I guess we'll see
26:25if it pulls anything
26:27hopefully the fuel pump's not rotted out
26:30I don't know how hard it is to find a
26:31rebuild kit for those
26:34but yeah let's get a container see what
26:36kind of gas comes out if any
26:39fill the bowl
26:41double check it's full
26:47yeah safe to say it's not pumping
26:50yeah it's cleared up it's not missing
26:53nearly as bad as it was
26:55sometimes if you backfeed fuel down the
26:58output it'll wet the diaphragm so we'll
27:01try that I don't have a lot of Hope but
27:03just spilling gas everywhere maybe we
27:06should
27:07try and hook in the feed line I think
27:09this is a old style vacuum
27:12gas pump combination this is the gas
27:16feed line I believe so maybe I'll unhook
27:17it from the tank feed line right there
27:20we can try dumping some fuel down this
27:22hose and see if it'll pump it up the um
27:26carbs so I don't know let's do that no I
27:30wonder if there's a sediment bone
27:33that was pretty common back in the day
27:35it does have a bowl but it's not a
27:37sediment bowl
27:38well I mean it may be but it's not a
27:39serviceable one it doesn't look like
27:41yeah anyways let's pop that uh rubber
27:43line off
27:455 8
27:46got it on my
27:47fourth try or something so that's really
27:50lots of skill there
27:51surprised how playable this rubber hose
27:53is still but let's
27:55um dump some fuel down it see if we can
27:58get the pump to Pump It Up
28:05[Music]
28:08kind of looking like the fuel pump's a
28:10no-go
28:11another girl let me refill the squirt
28:13bottle here you go
28:16[Music]
28:25yeah I think our fuel pump's a no-go
28:28pull the fuel pump and see what we're
28:29dealing with I'm getting whiffs of
28:31petrified gas
28:34gotta say doing fuel pumps is one of my
28:36least favorite jobs
28:38I feel like it's always in a horrible
28:40place you never get right on the bolts
28:44there we go
28:49all right so we got the carb rebuilt
28:52kind of rebuilt we're still gonna have
28:54to go through it with a kit once we get
28:55the seals for it but it's doing carp
28:58things the engine seems to be running
28:59pretty well just off the fuel in the
29:01bowl the fuel pump isn't working so
29:03we're gonna have to wait on the rebuild
29:04kit luckily there is one I can order in
29:06so once that comes in we'll get that
29:08rebuilt and hopefully get the car ready
29:11for a drive so stay tuned that'll be
29:14coming out soon and I'll see you guys
29:15next time
29:28currently a terrify

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