Sister Circle | Yusef Salaam of The Central Park Five Talks Journey From Trauma To Triumph | TVONE — Transcript
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- 0:00welcome back to sister circle life at 15
- 0:02years old in 1989 he along with four
- 0:05other black teenage boys was arrested
- 0:08accused of an incarcerated for raping a
- 0:11white woman while she was jogging in
- 0:12Central Park a crime they did not commit
- 0:15freed after nearly seven years behind
- 0:18bars he's used his trauma as a means to
- 0:20empower and advocate for young black men
- 0:23and women in the arena's of social
- 0:25justice reform political placement and
- 0:27education please welcome the brave the
- 0:30bold and the unapologetically black
- 0:33Yusef Salaam
- 0:36[Applause]
- 0:50such a pleasure came down to the circle
- 0:54today so let's jump right into it I mean
- 0:57how have you been able to manage the
- 1:00global response since the movie when
- 1:03they see us has come out and how are you
- 1:04navigating that now I would say gently I
- 1:08think that rising to the occasion that
- 1:11you realized that you were born on
- 1:13purpose yes and you're starting to
- 1:15realize that purpose you're starting to
- 1:16realize that you can add value to the
- 1:18world you can use your platform for the
- 1:20greater good yeah again talking about
- 1:23when they see us when you were
- 1:25approached about doing this movie what
- 1:27were your first thoughts what was the
- 1:28thing that came to your mind I was like
- 1:30yeah yeah you know cuz the thing about
- 1:33it is that we have done a documentary
- 1:35and the documentary gave us our voices
- 1:37back yeah and it was like okay what next
- 1:39and the best thing that we could do next
- 1:41was to actually have this wee portrayal
- 1:44of us whatever we did everything that
- 1:46happened we brought back to life and I
- 1:49think these young actors that took our
- 1:51stories you know I mean shoot Angelou
- 1:55Ellis just she portrayed my mom that was
- 1:58seeing that would there were times where
- 1:59I was on set and I would see her and she
- 2:02would just get into character and I was
- 2:03like holy shucks that's my mom right
- 2:05right and it was so beautiful to see
- 2:06that that strength that power that thing
- 2:09that I keep telling folks about you know
- 2:10she's my rock and my you know she's been
- 2:12in she's been in my corner
- 2:13yes since they won yeah absolutely you
- 2:16know I know because you have to relive
- 2:19so much of this with with the with the
- 2:21movie in the documentary and your life's
- 2:23work but how you're saying and I had to
- 2:25go through those things because it's my
- 2:26purpose but when you look back sometimes
- 2:29when you were sitting in that jail cell
- 2:31do you ever go back to any of those
- 2:32times and if you do where what what was
- 2:35that like or what is it like to relive
- 2:37some of that so I remember it all and
- 2:38when I look back I can see the path but
- 2:41when you're going through it you can the
- 2:43only thing that you have to do is you
- 2:45have to keep on walking they said when
- 2:46you're walking through he'll keep on
- 2:47walking and if you don't do that if you
- 2:49give up then you not only does your body
- 2:52become in bondage but also your mind and
- 2:55you need to keep your mind free so that
- 2:57you can do what you need to do but when
- 2:59did you know you had this type of
- 3:01strength yes Wow
- 3:03I found out that we were all born with
- 3:06it and I found out that in those quiet
- 3:08times I would hear my grandmother I
- 3:10would hear my mother I would hear every
- 3:11elder that was talking to me before I
- 3:13would hear their advice my grandmother
- 3:15would say things like be still and
- 3:16listen and to be able to really digest
- 3:19that it became apparent wow this is this
- 3:23is there's this it looks like magic it
- 3:25looks like luck but really it's laboring
- 3:29under correct knowledge
- 3:30it's utilizing these skills these things
- 3:32that you've been given to really turn
- 3:34lemons into lemonade we recently had
- 3:39Brian banks here at the show and I have
- 3:42to ask this as young black innocent boys
- 3:47in jail how do you how do you hold on to
- 3:51hope in a hopeless situation how do you
- 3:55how do you maintain a positive psyche in
- 3:58a moment like that you have to think
- 4:00about yourself as your past present
- 4:02future self you have to project yourself
- 4:04into your own future so that you know
- 4:06that as you
- 4:07soli sees that you will one day reap
- 4:09that you know I mean I think about
- 4:11Nipsey Hussle all the time and I say man
- 4:13has a young man who was sowing seeds of
- 4:15trees that he would never sit in the
- 4:17shade of oh my god but as we begin to
- 4:19think about ourselves in our future
- 4:21selves it makes sense because instead of
- 4:23saying Yolo and live in a reckless life
- 4:25live in a careless life
- 4:27we live a life on purpose we live a life
- 4:29of value and we live a life that we know
- 4:31that one day we'll be able to achieve
- 4:32this our children's children's children
- 4:35will be able to reap the benefits of
- 4:37everything that we're doing right now I
- 4:38think that's the most important thing
- 4:40yes and I think your children are doing
- 4:41the same thing and as a father how are
- 4:44you able to still do your life's work
- 4:46but still shield them and protect them
- 4:48from what this world is like and allow
- 4:51them to experience it at the same time
- 4:52so I tell my children all the time I
- 4:56have seven girls and three boys face and
- 4:59I tell them all the time since there
- 5:00were babies stay on point yeah you know
- 5:03and they get it they understand it more
- 5:07then I would have helped and you know
- 5:10it's this is the the difficulty is to
- 5:14shut off the story because if they're
- 5:20running around in the backyard I'll
- 5:22catch myself and say oh no everything is
- 5:24safe they're good they're in my backyard
- 5:25yeah you know I can hear the cars coming
- 5:27coming down the cul-de-sac because we
- 5:30live in you know a quiet area and things
- 5:32like that so it's a lot safer yeah but
- 5:34when I'm home I like to kick my feet up
- 5:35and be fine daddy you know BB I kind of
- 5:39turned it off a bit yeah and then when I
- 5:40get back out in the world I'm healed
- 5:42because I know what I'm doing it for you
- 5:45know my children not only for them but
- 5:48realizing that they have to live in the
- 5:50world of a thought like Donald Trump you
- 5:55know well let's talk about your advocacy
- 5:57let's talk about your organization's
- 5:58Yusef speaks yes I have two young black
- 6:02men that I'm still raising they're
- 6:03they're in their 20s like I'm still
- 6:05raising and you have to teach them every
- 6:07day especially in the world we live in
- 6:08what do you say to these young men and
- 6:11women through your organization I think
- 6:15I think a lot of it is encouraging them
- 6:18to believe in themselves you know when I
- 6:20was in prison about six months in
- 6:21somebody asked me who was I and I wrote
- 6:23it in my book of poetry and that
- 6:26question the answer to that question was
- 6:29searching to find who has come a
- 6:31beautiful soul a powerful one and it's
- 6:33the realization and understanding that
- 6:35God created us and God took something of
- 6:38himself and placed it inside of us and
- 6:40so our quest is to figure out who are we
- 6:42and then once we find out who we are we
- 6:46can live in that purpose but we have to
- 6:47know that we were one of over 400
- 6:50million options when our parents got
- 6:52together and we made it we swim the
- 6:53fastest so therefore we were born on
- 6:55purpose and with a purpose and once we
- 6:58understand that we can believe in
- 6:59ourselves we can we can turn off all of
- 7:01the negative voices that are out there
- 7:05telling us that we're not worth anything
- 7:07therefore we produce worthlessness but
- 7:09we're worth everything especially young
- 7:11people they're the ones that are going
- 7:12to be the future movies and shakers of
- 7:14tomorrow we've got more with Central
- 7:19Park 5 soldier and survivor Yusef Salaam
- 7:22and the rest of the sisters are also
- 7:23gonna join us with the conversation so
- 7:25please stay with us you don't want to
- 7:26miss that yes you go oh circle I does
- 7:30promise activist philanthropist and
- 7:32history maker Yusef Salaam is back with
- 7:34us along with our sister Selena and quad
- 7:35joining the conversation - Miska you are
- 7:38going to kick things off yeah I'm happy
- 7:39that you're here with us it really is
- 7:45we're gonna talk about the state of our
- 7:47country today 24 hours within 24 hours
- 7:50there were two massive shootings now El
- 7:52Paso Texas and then also Dayton Ohio
- 7:55what are your thoughts on how far gun
- 7:59control has come okay and then also how
- 8:04imminent hate crimes are you know Donald
- 8:09Trump being the head of this country I
- 8:12think says a lot it's not that him he
- 8:14himself is the problem but the thoughts
- 8:16that he continues to put out there in
- 8:19the world allows people to think that
- 8:20it's okay and so black bodies are then
- 8:23less valued you know when the police
- 8:25come after us they come after us as if
- 8:27they're slave catchers they do and we
- 8:29look at the holes the landscape of
- 8:31everything and it becomes very apparent
- 8:33that you know we live in two very
- 8:35different Americas one way you're
- 8:37afforded every option under the law and
- 8:41the other way you're not giving any of
- 8:43those rights you know and I think that
- 8:45that's a real big problem especially as
- 8:47we look at some of these manifestos that
- 8:50have
- 8:51merged as these killings have happened
- 8:53you know and I think about that but I
- 8:55also couple it and tied it and tie it
- 8:57into what happened in that church with
- 9:00that young man Dylan roof went in and
- 9:02shot all of those parishioners and they
- 9:06arrested him they arrested him I didn't
- 9:08said he killed him they arrested me they
- 9:10captured him alive yeah and then then he
- 9:13took him to dinner before they sent him
- 9:15to prison
- 9:16you know and I think that when we look
- 9:18at what's happening in America you could
- 9:20be a young Tamir rice and police won't
- 9:22even ask a question but when they see
- 9:23you with a what they think is a gun they
- 9:25just drive up and shoot you down you
- 9:28know Mike Brown you know and you know
- 9:32you said that the list goes on and on
- 9:34Eric Gardner Sandra bland Trayvon Martin
- 9:38you know kalief Browder for lendo
- 9:40Castillo when we sit and reflect on the
- 9:46killings of our young african-american
- 9:49people what comes to mind you know I
- 9:52know for me personally there's a
- 9:55hopelessness that happens what stirs in
- 9:58your heart when you think of these legs
- 10:01and I call them swing yes exactly these
- 10:04murders so so what comes to my mind
- 10:06immediately is they want us to live in
- 10:08fear and fear if we understand it as an
- 10:12acronym is false evidence appearing real
- 10:14yes and so as we begin to understand
- 10:16that we have to live full as my friend
- 10:18Les Brown says and I empty we can't live
- 10:21annex permission to live we were here
- 10:22and we were born on purposes it so
- 10:24therefore we have to be able to just say
- 10:25you know what I want to give it all I
- 10:28wanna I don't I don't want to
- 10:30necessarily look at all of the rocks
- 10:31that are being thrown at us which is the
- 10:34murderers these systemic racism the
- 10:37white supremacy white male dominance all
- 10:38of these you know isms and destructive
- 10:41things that are constantly forcing us to
- 10:44hide and duck for cover we gotta say no
- 10:47yeah you know what I'm saying we have to
- 10:49be able to boldly put our shoulders to
- 10:52the grind and press forward because we
- 10:54are about maybe 50 plus years after the
- 10:58assassination of dr. Martin Luther King
- 10:59and
- 11:00Malcolm X and we're still dealing with a
- 11:03lot of those things but I say that
- 11:04because with we we are the opportunity
- 11:08is that we're still in a young timeline
- 11:11we haven't this is not like eons we are
- 11:14literally about to Chum ship things into
- 11:17the right perspective change things I
- 11:20felt like when you look at the Central
- 11:22Park jogger case we went through
- 11:24everything that we went through because
- 11:25just as we were formed in our mothers
- 11:27stomachs we were formed in the belly of
- 11:29the beast in order to attack the system
- 11:32as it appears today we're still going
- 11:35through civil rights I know a lot of
- 11:36people say the civil rights is still not
- 11:38I mean it's the movement is still moving
- 11:40yes I think civil rights Human Rights
- 11:42all of the rights that we look for you
- 11:45know we hope that we have freedom
- 11:46justice and equality but the reality is
- 11:48that two people who have always seen
- 11:52themselves in their privileged equality
- 11:57looks like Oh pressure there's something
- 12:01we have to truly understand from that
- 12:02perspective it's a vantage point it's a
- 12:04thing where oh my god
- 12:05the beautiful thing is that our the the
- 12:08world that we live in right now this
- 12:10kaleidoscope of the family that
- 12:12represents the human family the children
- 12:15of former slaves and the children of
- 12:17former slave owners one a different
- 12:18tomorrow it's just like good cop bad cop
- 12:21there are a whole lot of good cops but
- 12:25the spotlight is continuously shown on
- 12:27the bad cops just like there are a whole
- 12:29lot of good people but the spotlight is
- 12:31continuously shown on the evil yes and
- 12:33they need us they need us in order to
- 12:36participate but we have to refuse you
- 12:40talk about evil people and there are a
- 12:42lot of evil people who wrote letters to
- 12:43you while you were in jail and you
- 12:46decided to not throw them away because
- 12:48of their vitriol and you know just the
- 12:52hate you save some yes why and this one
- 12:56in particular because you said it talked
- 12:58about time this one this one in
- 13:00particular because this this empowers me
- 13:04to remember
- 13:05what we are up against I can hide in
- 13:10plain sight
- 13:10or I could jump in and jumping in
- 13:14doesn't necessarily mean that I take a
- 13:15gun and I shoot white people but what
- 13:17that does mean is that I teach and train
- 13:19the future generations that we have to
- 13:22think about ourselves as a present as
- 13:25our past future as a past future present
- 13:28self and I'm saying as we merge those
- 13:32realities here we are right now what
- 13:34were we and what do we want to become
- 13:36you know and so I look at this and I say
- 13:38to myself this right here wanted me to
- 13:40duck for cover this letter is telling me
- 13:42that 20 to 30 years from now some people
- 13:45would never forget and maybe the one
- 13:46time that I don't check my back is the
- 13:48one time that somebody might just be
- 13:49there to say hello but the reality is
- 13:52this that right there was a whisper into
- 13:55the darker enclaves of society after
- 13:57Donald Trump said bring back the death
- 13:59penalty being bring back all police we
- 14:01hadn't even going to trial yet we were
- 14:04already being judged in the court of
- 14:06public opinion and so if you think about
- 14:09what they could have done we could have
- 14:11become modern-day Emmett tales they may
- 14:13be somebody to come into our homes to
- 14:15drag us from our beds to beat us to
- 14:18death shoot us in the head as they did
- 14:19him entire khanjan around our necks
- 14:21but as they wrote in the papers Pat
- 14:23Buchanan's kind of seized on that moment
- 14:25as he just went a step further
- 14:27he went full-on racist yeah and what he
- 14:30said was we should take the eldest one
- 14:33Corey wives and hang him from a tree in
- 14:36Central Park
- 14:37we should take the others and horse with
- 14:39them oh my god mind you die oxy
- 14:43ribonucleic acid free dose they found
- 14:46out we didn't do it because of this
- 14:47thing called DNA that fingerprint that
- 14:50is individual to each and every one of
- 14:52us
- 14:52they found that we didn't do it because
- 14:54of that and when they reject all of
- 14:57their evidence my god do you forgive
- 15:00those people do you forgive the
- 15:02prosecutor
- 15:05that's a good question it is that's so
- 15:08my good friend my brother Cory wise he
- 15:12says you can forgive but you must not
- 15:14forget and the reality of the matter is
- 15:17that what I want us to understand as a
- 15:20society these folks built their careers
- 15:23off of our backs these folks were able
- 15:25to live lavish lives because of the
- 15:28trauma that they put us through you see
- 15:31what I'm saying and so it's important to
- 15:33look at it from that vantage point that
- 15:34we want good prosecutors we want good
- 15:37police office we want good everything
- 15:39but the reality is that we keep having
- 15:41people who are overstepping the bounds
- 15:44of the law in all black bodies are the
- 15:47ones that are collateral damage you know
- 15:51you have this book and you talk about it
- 15:54briefly yes these books actually I've
- 15:56got a cover for each of you
- 15:59these books were poems that I wrote
- 16:02while I was in prison some of which I
- 16:05never edited they just came to me and I
- 16:07wrote it down
- 16:07and I said wow what am I gonna do with
- 16:09this one of the most famous poems in
- 16:11here is the poem that I said when I got
- 16:15sentenced that my sentencing they said
- 16:17do you have anything to say before we
- 16:18sentence you and I stood up and I said
- 16:20this rhyme you know back then it was
- 16:22always a message in the music and all
- 16:24the music in the message and so that was
- 16:25my medium of communication and I said
- 16:28this rhyme that not only talked about my
- 16:31case but it also drew into the courtroom
- 16:33what happened to the young use of
- 16:36Hawkins you know who was murdered
- 16:38because of racism that Rahm was called I
- 16:41stand accused the very next day the New
- 16:44York Post had a photo of my Ryan on the
- 16:47front page in the headline said Salaam
- 16:51baloney you know and you know like I
- 16:55said in here are motivational things
- 16:58things that I want people to understand
- 16:59like we have the power to win you know I
- 17:02quoted Assata Shakur and I kind of put
- 17:04my own twist on it that we have to love
- 17:06each other and respect each other we
- 17:08have nothing to lose but our chains but
- 17:11we have to understand that they want us
- 17:12to live in a world of fear they want us
- 17:14to live in a world
- 17:15of hopelessness they want us to not be
- 17:17prepared they want us to forget that
- 17:20they have thought about this thing that
- 17:23has gone on into our lifetimes where
- 17:28they still have their foot on our necks
- 17:30you said thank you so much for being
- 17:34here sharing the message and living a
- 17:37purpose
- 17:38we appreciate you know we celebrate your
- 17:40resilience your amazing work my god if
- 17:42you want more information about his
- 17:44story and his advocacy work please visit
- 17:46Yousef speaks com
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