Sherri Papini Admits Hoax in Stunning Interrogation Video — Transcript

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1. 0:00The reason why you can describe the room
2. 0:02is because you stayed in the room in the
3. 0:04dark for hours for days on end.
4. 0:07The reason why you lost so much weight
5. 0:09is because you stopped eating.
6. 0:11The reason why you got a rash on your
7. 0:13arm is because you cleaned his house.
8. 0:16The reason why the brand is because he
9. 0:18went to the store, bought the branding
10. 0:20tools, and branded you.
11. 0:22The reason why your nose was broke is
12. 0:23because of a hockey stick.
13. 0:27I know all of those things, and I know
14. 0:29there's no sex. I know all of that
15. 0:32because he passed a polygraph test. That
16. 0:35said, it's not an abduction. She asked
17. 0:38me to come to get her.
18. 0:40No.
19. 0:40I rented a car,
20. 0:42No.
21. 0:42drove up and picked her up.
22. 0:45He He passed the polygraph test, Sherry.
23. 0:48That's not what happened. What did
24. 0:50happen, Sherry?
25. 0:51I don't
26. 0:52know.
27. 0:54No, there's no way it's James. There's
28. 0:57no way. There's no way.
29. 0:59His DNA doesn't lie.
30. 1:00His DNA
31. 1:01His DNA was on you.
32. 1:03There's no way.
33. 1:05Robert saw you in the house
34. 1:08while you were down there. While
35. 1:10everything spun out of control, his
36. 1:12cousin.
37. 1:14While everything ran out of control on
38. 1:16the initial
39. 1:18There's no way.
40. 1:20It's It's 100% Robert's DNA or James's
41. 1:23DNA.
42. 1:25We even collected blood hairs from the
43. 1:27room.
44. 1:30There's no way it's James.
45. 1:32There's no way.
46. 1:33All right, but it is.
47. 1:34Why are you saying IT'S NOT JAMES?
48. 1:38WHY are you saying it's not?
49. 1:44He loves me.
50. 1:45What's that?
51. 1:46We were friends.
52. 1:48There's no way.
53. 1:49And he came and got you because you
54. 1:51asked him.
55. 1:53No.
56. 1:54100% James was telling the truth.
57. 1:58The questions were
58. 1:59Did Sherry ask you to come pick her up?
59. 2:01He answered yes. That was a truth on a
60. 2:04polygraph.
61. 2:06We asked him if you and the two of you
62. 2:07ever had sex. The answer was no.
63. 2:10During 2016.
64. 2:12During 2016, during the abduction, he
65. 2:14said no. That was a truth.
66. 2:17We asked him if you asked him to brand
67. 2:19You asked him to brand you.
68. 2:21The answer was yes.
69. 2:23And he passed the polygraph.
70. 2:25But how those bruises got there are
71. 2:27because you did it and James did some.
72. 2:31The reason why your nose got broke is
73. 2:32because you held the hockey stick to
74. 2:34your face and he forced it into your
75. 2:36nose.
76. 2:37The reason why the brand is in a
77. 2:38straight line is because he did it. He
78. 2:42described exactly where it was. He told
79. 2:44us exactly how he did it, where he did
80. 2:46it, how he did it.
81. 2:48Only you and I and maybe five other
82. 2:50people know where the brand was.
83. 2:52He told me immediately.
84. 2:54Why did I talk to the guy?
85. 2:56Oh my
86. 2:57god. Why did I do that?
87. 3:00Like when you were in Eureka, you gave
88. 3:01him a call?
89. 3:04You started chatting with him?
90. 3:06Told him some of your problems?
91. 3:09And when did it turn from just chatting
92. 3:11to he's planning to get away?
93. 3:15No.
94. 3:17No.
95. 3:18No.
96. 3:19You were getting a hold of Don and
97. 3:20Minsky the night before.
98. 3:22Why did I do
99. 3:23that?
100. 3:26We're trying to understand why you did
101. 3:27that, too.
102. 3:28We're trying to understand all of it.
103. 3:30I don't know. I don't know what I was
104. 3:32doing this cuz that was what I was
105. 3:34thinking cuz I was doing that.
106. 3:36You were doing what?
107. 3:37It was an awful choice. Talking to other
108. 3:39guys that had gotten me here.
109. 3:45So, are you What aspect are you saying?
110. 3:47Like how how did How does talking to
111. 3:49other people get you here? We've gotten
112. 3:51over
113. 3:51my husband. I love my husband.
114. 3:53I love my husband. I love my husband.
115. 4:00All right, still with me deputy public
116. 4:02defender for LA County Philip DeBe
117. 4:03Philip we've all been there. I mean not
118. 4:04not with those kind of stakes but we've
119. 4:06all been there where we maybe told a lie
120. 4:08and then finally you realize that our
121. 4:10lie has come out. Um
122. 4:12Interesting thing about this case is
123. 4:14prosecutors saw this as a crime that
124. 4:16maybe 8 months in jail would suffice. Um
125. 4:18our defense was only asking for a month.
126. 4:21Um
127. 4:21the judge hit her with 18 months.
128. 4:24That's more than twice what prosecutors
129. 4:26I was asking for. I think our viewers
130. 4:27need to understand that's unusual and
131. 4:29this is your neck of the woods. What
132. 4:31What do you think happened here?
133. 4:32What I think happened is a couple of
134. 4:33things. First of all, she pleaded to
135. 4:35counts. She pleaded to mail fraud and to
136. 4:39lying to the FBI. So you know, typically
137. 4:41when you get those lower digit
138. 4:43sentences, the one digit, you know, like
139. 4:45one year or maybe six months,
140. 4:48uh it's because you've settled early and
141. 4:50you've pleaded to one count. Her
142. 4:51exposure here I believe was 20 to 25
143. 4:54years. I think the other reason why the
144. 4:56judge stuck it to her was to send a
145. 4:58message. She initially told the police
146. 5:02that she was basically abducted by two
147. 5:05unnamed Hispanic women, okay? I don't
148. 5:08know if you remember like for example
149. 5:09Susan Smith years ago who killed her
150. 5:11children, drowned them, you know, she
151. 5:13said that she was carjacked by a black
152. 5:15man. Well, let me tell you that resulted
153. 5:17in the arrest of at least one black man.
154. 5:20Yes.
155. 5:20Fortunately here no Hispanic women were
156. 5:22arrested but there was that potential
157. 5:25out there for unnamed Hispanic women who
158. 5:28happen to be going around in twos who
159. 5:30could have been picked up, hauled in,
160. 5:32accused, God only knows what could have
161. 5:34happened and the judge just wanted to
162. 5:36send a message to her. You take the 18
163. 5:38months or you can have a trial.
164. 5:39Yeah, and he also hit her with I believe
165. 5:41$300,000 in restitution that has to do
166. 5:43with a lot of different things including
167. 5:45and I think this was played a role for
168. 5:47sure, she even went and got money from
169. 5:49the victim's compensation board,
170. 5:51$30,000. That had to play a role.
171. 5:53Oh, of course. I mean, that is fraud,
172. 5:57to say the least. Uh, it's probably also
173. 5:59another criminal act. I don't know what
174. 6:01she did or lied about under oath to get
175. 6:03that money.
176. 6:05Uh, and it might actually be a state
177. 6:06offense. So, who knows? Maybe as a
178. 6:07result of this, there could be another
179. 6:09charge coming. I don't know.
180. 6:11Well, they they put it in. So, they it
181. 6:12was part of her charges. So, the 18
182. 6:14months includes that taking that money
183. 6:16as well.
184. 6:16Oh, then she is lucky. Yeah. She is
185. 6:19absolutely lucky.
186. 6:20I agree. And when you look at a crime
187. 6:21like this, um,
188. 6:23the question is, okay, who was hurt,
189. 6:24right? And I think you touched on it a
190. 6:25little bit. Not only is her husband, he
191. 6:27was in in that room. I can't imagine
192. 6:29what he was feeling. Um, you have the
193. 6:32her family, you have herself, but you
194. 6:33mentioned it. And I think this is the
195. 6:35key, the community. The community was
196. 6:37hurt.
197. 6:37Absolutely. Any two women who happen to
198. 6:40be Hispanic, maybe pushing a stroller,
199. 6:42driving a car, walking down the street
200. 6:44arm in arm, or even shopping, could have
201. 6:46been collared, hauled in by the police
202. 6:48to see if they had anything to do with
203. 6:50the abduction of Ms. Papini, you know?
204. 6:53And there there was that advent until
205. 6:57they finally cracked the case. So, I
206. 6:59think they want to send a message that
207. 7:00if you're going to start pointing the
208. 7:01finger, particularly to minorities,
209. 7:03you're going to pay the piper on the
210. 7:05back end.
211. 7:05And apparently, she still is claiming to
212. 7:09friends and others that it didn't happen
213. 7:11the way that that she in fact was was
214. 7:13abducted in some way. So, there may be
215. 7:15some issues mentally there with this
216. 7:17woman as well.