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0:00Disclaimer. This video is for commentary
0:02and educational purposes only. All
0:04individuals are presumed innocent until
0:07proven guilty in a court of law. Any
0:09footage used in this video is obtained
0:11through public records and falls under
0:13fair use for the purpose of reporting,
0:15analysis, and public interest.
0:17>> I hit her a couple times. A few times. I
0:19I can't tell you. I hit her. I hit her.
0:21I hit her. I hit her.
0:24>> Close fist. A smack.
0:27>> Close fist. Close fist. Close fist. She
0:33kept She didn't make a sound. She kept
0:36eating it like like there was an
0:38agreement like like they had an
0:40agreement. Like they had an agreement.
0:42Like something was like something.
0:44>> On February 15th, 2025, 16-year-old
0:48Miranda Corsette returned to the St.
0:50Petersburg home of Steven Gres, a man
0:53she had met the day before through a
0:54dating app. She would never be seen
0:56alive again. What followed over the next
0:59several days was horrific, described by
1:01police as brutal torture. Miranda was
1:04beaten repeatedly, burned, left with
1:07broken ribs, open wounds, and facial
1:09trauma. She tried to leave, but she was
1:12stopped every time. Investigators
1:14believe Michelle Brandes, Steven's
1:16partner, didn't just witness it, she
1:19participated. Witnesses say Michelle
1:21struck Miranda, mocked her while she
1:23cried, helped isolate her, taunted her,
1:27and even forced her to shower while
1:28injured. Then came the final horrific
1:30act. According to court documents,
1:33Michelle was the one who forced a
1:34billiard ball into Miranda's mouth,
1:36wrapped her head in plastic, and held it
1:38until she stopped breathing. But the
1:40cruelty didn't end there. Miranda's body
1:42was moved to another apartment believed
1:44to be owned by Michelle's mother. There,
1:47the couple dismembered the body and
1:49packed the remains into trash bags,
1:51later dumping them in a dumpster more
1:53than 40 m away. Now Michelle sits in an
1:56interrogation room, silent, steely, and
2:00about to tell her story. This is the
2:02interrogation of Michelle Brandis.
2:04>> Yeah, you're going to have a seat right
2:06on the back.
2:13No water or did you have you eaten yet?
2:15You eat anything? Snack on.
2:17>> Well, no. I've eaten. I I ate
2:19>> bottle water or anything.
2:22>> No, I got to poop.
2:23>> Okay. Well, if you need to use the rest
2:25of me,
2:26>> my stomach's [ __ ] up. I'm okay.
2:27>> Okay. Are you sure?
2:29>> Yes.
2:29>> Okay.
2:35Any points? You need to go. Just tell
2:37us. Well, it's not an issue at all.
2:39>> 111.
2:40>> What's that?
2:40>> 1111.
2:41>> Yep. Yep.
2:44So, I mean, obviously you know why
2:46you're here. We do have to ask you
2:49>> some questions. We have to go through
2:50this.
2:51>> Yes, I understand.
2:52>> Have you ever been in trouble before?
2:53>> Yes.
2:54>> Okay. So, you know, you've had your
2:55right sp but we So, we're going to go
2:58through this.
2:59>> Okay.
3:00>> Um, do me a favor. Spell your first full
3:02name.
3:03>> M I C H E L L E.
3:07>> Your middle name.
3:08>> Eileen. A Y.
3:10>> A Y.
3:11>> L E N.
3:14And then what's your last name?
3:15>> Brandis BS boy. R A N B E S 22488.
3:21>> Thank you.
3:22>> Freddy's I just
3:26>> Okay. And where are you staying at
3:28currently?
3:29>> Um
3:33I was last day.
3:36>> Okay.
3:38That's sinking. Sorry. Don't sink.
3:44Are you are you under the influence of
3:46any?
3:46>> No, I'm sub.
3:48>> Prescription drugs, alcohol, illegal
3:50drugs.
3:50>> Yeah, I'm completely sub.
3:54>> Education. What was last grade you
3:55completed?
3:56>> Some college. I completed uh technical
3:59school.
4:00What?
4:01>> Uh cosmology. Okay.
4:08>> Can you read? Yes.
4:11Can you right?
4:12>> Yes.
4:13>> Can you hear me? Okay.
4:14>> Yes. I am a little
4:18on my left side probably.
4:19>> Okay. If you need me to speak up when I
4:21ask questions, just let me know, please.
4:22I just want to make sure you hear me.
4:25>> Okay. You have the right to remain
4:26silent. Do you understand?
4:27>> Yes.
4:29>> Anything you say can be used against you
4:30in court of law. Do you understand?
4:32>> Yes.
4:33>> You have the right to talk to a lawyer
4:34and have him or her present with you
4:35while you're being questioned. Do you
4:37understand?
4:37>> Yes.
4:38>> Okay. Okay. If you cannot afford to hire
4:39a lawyer, one will be appointed to
4:41represent you. Do you understand?
4:42>> Yes.
4:43>> You can decide at any time to exercise
4:45these rights and not answer any
4:46questions or make any statements. Do you
4:47understand?
4:48>> Yes.
4:49>> Do you understand each of these rights
4:51as I've explained them to you?
4:52>> Yes, I do.
4:55>> And then having these rights in mind, we
4:57should talk to those now.
5:09Okay. So, this is the form we just went
5:10over, right? And I want to make sure
5:11like you read and understand it. These
5:14are all your answers. That's me. Um, if
5:16you could,
5:18>> if everything's good with you, if you
5:19want to sign right at the bottom,
5:37you okay?
5:38>> Yeah. Yes. No, I'm not.
5:40>> No.
5:40>> No, I'm not.
5:41>> I can imagine. It's
5:43>> I usually when we talk to people, it's
5:46always we meet under these kinds of
5:48situations and circumstances and it's
5:50it's it's going to be hard. I know.
5:52>> Um I'll just say like, you know, you're
5:55doing the right thing.
5:58you being here,
6:01you're going to you're going to once you
6:02get all this off your chest, you're
6:04going to feel better. So, probably I
6:07mean, tell us from the very beginning
6:08what happened.
6:20I've known Steve
6:24since I was 17 years old. I dated his
6:27older brother. I thought he was a cute
6:29one. Um, but back when I'm 17 and he's
6:3216, you don't date a guy younger than
6:33you, so I dated his older brother. Um
6:39[Music]
6:41>> you talk
6:42>> um I kept contact with him throughout
6:46his prison bed cuz he's been in prison
6:49and I kept contact with him pictures,
6:53letters, you know what I could what I
6:57could do. The day he got out of prison,
6:59I went and I seen him at his mom's
7:02house. Um, and you know, we kept contact
7:07every so often throughout the years.
7:12I was looking for a bootle
7:14and I reached out to him before.
7:20Um,
7:22it was
7:27it was an assess and it was really
7:30really good and
7:34that kind of healed the tail for me. Um,
7:44he uh he's not he's not your normal type
7:48of person. Like he's not he's he's not
7:52your type of person. Everything was
7:56different. Everything was different at
7:57the beginning. Everything was so good.
7:59Everything was great.
8:01Um,
8:12I allowed so much that I would have
8:16never allowed with anybody else. Um,
8:22he felt like the world owed him
8:26because of all the time that he did. Um
8:34um sorry. Uh
8:37but he would have sex with as many
8:40people as he could. There there were
8:43times where he
8:45would make me
8:47clean up real quick. He was kind of girl
8:51and I would have to go on the other
8:59Um,
9:02and I would literally have to just sit
9:03there or you would have sex with
9:05somebody
9:10because he loved me.
9:12Um,
9:16Valentine's Day
9:20was sure this year
9:2510 days before my birthday.
9:30I was at my mom's getting ready
9:35to get back together.
9:39Um,
9:40and I Ubered to his house
9:44and I got there and everything was fine
9:47and I gave him he was sleeping when I
9:50got there. I gave him his present
9:53and he didn't have anything for me. He
9:56never when he does things for me, it's
9:59it's very seldom when he does things for
10:01me, but that's what makes it all the
10:03much better because it's so rare. That's
10:06not normal either.
10:08>> Um,
10:10Uh,
10:13everything was fine. I didn't
10:14understand.
10:16Out of nowhere, he says he's going to
10:18pick up another girl on Valentine Day.
10:20I'm like, "Okay, are you serious?" Yeah.
10:22Okay.
10:24A lot of the times I would wait outside
10:26or I didn't even want to be in the house
10:28whenever this happened because
10:31it hurt.
10:33It hurt every time.
10:39found it outside this time. Um that was
10:42like four or five hours that he spent
10:45with her
10:48by her.
10:52It was Miranda.
10:55He met Oh my god. He met her on the
10:57Grinder cuz she said she was 20.
11:01Um,
11:09he said that I can come back inside. She
11:10was still there. She was still there. He
11:13was about to take her home, but I had I
11:15I was cold that night. I had to pee.
11:19Like, I just wanted her to come back
11:21home. I wanted to get back inside. And
11:24so, I went to the bathroom and I said,
11:27"Let me know when you leave." Because I
11:28was so hurt. I didn't even want to see
11:31her. I didn't want I didn't want to look
11:33at her because part of me blamed her for
11:38>> ruining your Valentine's. Yeah.
11:39>> Ruining my Valentine's.
11:42It wasn't ruined, but it was ruined
11:44because she took him away from me. And
11:46it's okay. Like, I get it. He's aing
11:49[ __ ] and wants to stick his dick in
11:51anything that walks. And that, you know,
11:55he always comes back to me, though. He
11:57always comes back to me. isn't that what
11:59matters that he comes back to me or any
12:01better.
12:07He takes her home, he comes back,
12:10everything's back to
12:13normal.
12:16Uh, the next day
12:19I go back to my mom's
12:23and
12:24I next thing I know
12:28he messages me on Facebook saying this
12:32my ring.
12:36He thinks that
12:39I'm happy about this when I'm not. Mind
12:42you, I have stolen everything under the
12:45sun. I have not. I've never stolen
12:47anything from him. Never. Not once have
12:48I taken anything from him. Never. Not
12:50once. But I know what happens when he
12:54gets this idea in his head. I mean, he
12:58convinces himself of anything. I if it's
13:01a thought, he he creates some sort of
13:04some sort of some sort of like
13:08backing up like
13:09>> a rational thought. He it's okay. Let's
13:12say he wants to think that the sky is
13:14purple. He will somehow create some sort
13:17of of of of reasoning as to why the sky
13:20is purple and he says the sky is purple
13:21and that's it. That that's just it.
13:22Because he says the sky is purple, the
13:24sky is purple. And if you don't agree
13:26with him that the sky is purple,
13:29he will he will convince you that the
13:33sky is purple.
13:35He will convince you by any means
13:38necessary that the sky is purple.
13:43I I believed him initially over the
13:48phone that the girl stole his ring.
13:52He asked me to come over to help get the
13:55ring back. I'm thinking, okay, verbal,
14:01maybe some intimidation.
14:04I didn't know anything was going to
14:06happen.
14:16I get there. She's fine.
14:19She's normal. She's scary.
14:23But something was off. Something was
14:26off. Something was off. I could tell
14:27something was off because he's not
14:29acting like he normally would. He's not
14:31acting like
14:34he's not being physical or aggressive or
14:36like how he normally be with me. like he
14:39would have already yolked us up and
14:40[ __ ] he would have already been
14:43physical. The girl looks like she's
14:45pretending to be scared and I couldn't
14:48understand like I couldn't put my finger
14:49on it. So I didn't do anything. I didn't
14:51even say anything to her. I was just
14:53like what? I'm trying to figure out what
14:55is going on. What's happening right now?
14:58Because something doesn't seem right.
14:59Something doesn't seem right. And I even
15:01I was like I I would even I was even
15:03making cuz he was just asking where the
15:05is my ring. Where the my ring? Did you
15:06eat it? Did you stuff it up your [ __ ]
15:08Like, where is my ring?
15:11Um, I was like, "Look, I'll I'll look
15:14I'll look around the house to see if I
15:15could find it." And I looked in two
15:18sections. I looked over in the corner
15:20where his table, his tool table was.
15:24And then I went over by the dresser.
15:28When I went over by the dresser is when
15:30he told me to stop looking, that she has
15:33it. He's convinced she has it. I said,
15:35"Okay." So I stopped looking.
15:38Um
15:44he started looking
15:47and at one point there's like these
15:50shelves that he made to like put his
15:52clothes on. I'm only 411 so I couldn't I
15:56can't physically get to the top shelf.
15:59And but there was a mirror over here on
16:01the right hand side. And as he was
16:03looking on the shelves, I was looking at
16:05the mirror and I swore I saw the ring on
16:07the very top shelf. I didn't say
16:09anything then because I was too scared
16:13to. Um,
16:16I ended up leaving.
16:18I ended up leaving, going back to my
16:20mom's, and
16:23I I mentioned something about possibly
16:25seeing on Messenger the that I saw
16:29something gold ring on the top shelf and
16:32I was like, "Oh, really?" He's like,
16:34"It's not there." Or, "No, I don't even
16:36think he said that it wasn't there." He
16:37never actually responded to that.
16:42Um
16:46he then I'm not with him.
16:51He says something about you should your
16:53girl's in real bad shape.
16:56And I said I didn't believe him because
16:59from what I'm used to he you take
17:02something or he thinks you take
17:04something or you cross him or whatever.
17:07It's an automatic
17:09you're getting your ass beat.
17:13So I didn't believe him because it's
17:15already been what two days now and the
17:18girl hasn't you don't there's not a mark
17:20on the girl
17:22now he said something I thought she
17:25looks like ET
17:27like what she looks like
17:32she wants to talk she wants to talk to
17:34you is what he said
17:38Now
17:44I get there,
17:46her head is full.
17:49She's got two black eyes.
17:54>> Oh my god.
17:56>> Now it is.
17:57>> That was 2 days after
17:58>> that was two days
17:59>> after Valentine's.
18:01>> So now we're tossing dogs. 17th
18:04>> 16th after Valentine's Day.
18:06>> Nope. two full days.
18:07>> She went home 14 days. She came back the
18:1015th. So now it's the 17th
18:15week
18:19for the 15th. He kept for a week.
18:26So it's the 24th of
18:31the 23rd to the
18:35she
18:44>> he beat me and her side by side because
18:48I said I believed her and she didn't
18:50have the rank.
18:57The way that I was able to
19:00get him to stop beating me was if I
19:03agreed to help beat her.
19:10So yeah, I hit her.
19:14[Music]
19:15I hit her a couple times. A few times. I
19:17I can't tell you. I hit her. I hit her.
19:20I hit her. I hit her. Close fist. A
19:23smack.
19:26>> Close fist.
19:28Close fist. Close fist. She kept She
19:32didn't make a sound. She kept eating it
19:35like like there was an agreement like
19:38that. Like like they had an agreement
19:39like they had an agreement like
19:40something was like something at the end
19:44he said that she wasn't supposed to die.
19:47And I have a recording where I I told
19:50him I said I figured it out. You This
19:53was a This was your fantasy. You played
19:55out your real life fantasy.
19:58Like you wanted this to happen. Like
20:01he's sick. I know he's sick. I know he's
20:04sick. I know he's sick. I know he's
20:05sick.
20:07I know he's sick. I know he's sick.
20:10And he said, "Yep, good job." When I
20:14when it's on recording, it's on my
20:16phone. It's on my phone. I have
20:17recording. I have text messages. I have
20:19conversations between him. And I like I
20:23I I I'm not I He was trying. They're
20:25trying to use me as a scapegoat. They're
20:27trying to use me. And I don't understand
20:29why. Why? Why did you pick me? Like why
20:31did you pick me? I loved you. I
20:35I
20:37can't can't believe this is happening.
20:39This is my real life. Like this is this
20:41is my real life. Like I
20:44because I fell in love with he wants to
20:49>> I
20:52I did I
20:54helped him. I helped him. He made me
20:58help him. He made me help him. He would
21:02give me these little looks. And I know
21:04what those looks mean. I I know what
21:06those looks mean. 10 10 months and it
21:10the good honeymoon stage lasted for
21:14a month, 2 months, whatever.
21:17There was more bad than good.
21:20But the goods were so good. It was so
21:22good when it was good, but it was bad.
21:24It was horrible. It was a nightmare,
21:28but the good was great.
21:30So if you when you hit her,
21:36did you feel like he was going to hurt
21:37you if you didn't do what he said?
21:39>> Yes. You should have seen the look on
21:41his face as like when he was telling,
21:46"Go ahead. Your turn. You make her give
21:49me my ring back. You get my ring back
21:52from her."
21:55And I just wanted
21:57I wanted I wanted him to be pleased with
22:00me and not hurt me. I wanted I wanted I
22:03wanted him not to hurt me and I wanted
22:06to do whatever he said he wanted me to
22:08do so that I could walk away. I just
22:12wanted to walk away. I just wanted to
22:13leave. He wouldn't let me leave. He
22:15wanted me to help. He had needed my
22:17help. He I had no choice. I had no
22:19[ __ ] choice. I had no choice. I had
22:22no choice. So when you took part in the
22:23beating with Miranda that was on the
22:2617th
22:27>> the two days two days after the incident
22:29>> two days after I didn't touch her. I
22:31didn't touch her that day. You should
22:32have seen her. I couldn't I couldn't I
22:34couldn't stomach it. I
22:37couldn't stomach it. And
22:39>> prevented it lasted like 2 or 3 days.
22:42>> What prevented you from reaching out to
22:43us?
22:44>> Him.
22:45>> Did you ever leave that at that point?
22:47>> I couldn't
22:49once I saw her. No, I did leave. I did
22:53leave. I left to go to Walmart.
22:56I left to go to Walmart and grab some
22:59things for the house and for her because
23:03he wanted to take care of her. He wanted
23:06to take care of her. I I don't
23:09understand.
23:09>> Who did you go to Walmart with?
23:11>> It was by No,
23:15dude. Dollar Tree.
23:18And at no point in time when you did
23:20that, you never felt the need to contact
23:22us or come to see him [ __ ]
23:23>> So what was preventing you from the
23:26himim him? He
23:30You don't know him. You don't know him.
23:34You I I have braces all along my ribs
23:37right now. I have knots on the side of
23:39my head. This was him elbowing me.
23:44This was him straight punching me in my
23:47[ __ ]
23:48all this so that I wouldn't say
23:50anything.
23:51>> So, keep going from the Walmart real
23:53quick.
23:55>> He had put some sort of loctite, some
23:59sort of like super glue, but like for
24:01for for for con like construction for
24:03like for modeling or whatever the [ __ ]
24:05like this super strings in her hair.
24:08He I don't when I got there this it was
24:11already like this. She already had [ __ ]
24:12all up in her hair. like she looked she
24:15didn't look normal but she she she
24:19had all the [ __ ] in her hair
24:21to CVS to grab some [ __ ] for her.
24:27So it was um he wanted to take care of
24:30her. He wanted to clean up her her her
24:32wounds. Got hering just it didn't make
24:37sense to me. It was like
24:41and he kept her.
24:42>> Did that bother him?
24:43>> What?
24:43>> He kept her like
24:45>> after she'd been beat.
24:46>> Yeah. And she
24:50she liked it.
24:53That's why I'm saying there was some
24:55some sort of agreement prior to there
24:57had to have been because at one point in
24:59time
25:06that's how she heard it too. And it
25:08makes sense now because when him and I
25:09would have conversations and I was like,
25:12"How the [ __ ] did you know like you
25:13weren't even there?" He said, "Thank you
25:16for giving me everything that I wanted."
25:20And it didn't make Why would you be
25:22thanking her
25:24and I'm telling you like there was some
25:26sort of agreement prior to there was
25:29some sort of agreement prior to
25:32and she she she lied like I don't
25:36understand. I don't get it. I don't
25:37understand. But there was there was
25:41there had to have been Why else why else
25:43why else would you be thanking her? And
25:44why else would she be willingly
25:46doing like she was quiet. She didn't
25:49scream. She was not tied up. So, she
25:53could have left at any time. We We went
25:57to sleep.
25:58>> She could have gone. She could have
26:00left. There was a time I was the last
26:03one to wake up and they're sitting there
26:05talking like a normal conversation. She
26:09could have left at any time and she
26:11never even tried to leave. Never. Not
26:14once.
26:16The door was she could have left.
26:23Comes out every so often. She had her
26:25her share of words with her. She was
26:28texting me how the little was getting
26:30annoying and this and that and the third
26:32and like there's text messages.
26:43I didn't realize how much in love she
26:47was with him as well until after all of
26:50this and she walked in on him and I
26:52having sex and
26:55she caught an attitude and it was like
26:57hold on but we've been dating so what's
26:59the difference now? Like I didn't that's
27:02when I realized that she was still in
27:04love with him and not just his best
27:07friend
27:09like
27:11>> messing around with him too or no
27:13>> they still they can only do so much cuz
27:16she has
27:20he refuses to have sex with her but at
27:22the same time I know that something
27:25happened because when I left and came
27:27back and it was just this was after the
27:29fact it was just him and her
27:33her
27:36body fluids were all over the mattress
27:38and I could see it. So I know that there
27:41was some sort of sexual
27:44whatever
27:48>> yes
27:49>> what did she do? She went out there and
27:52she was talking, screaming, and even
27:57mushed her.
28:01>> What do you mean mush her? You like push
28:02her head into the wall or something her
28:05face and just like
28:06>> mush?
28:11She
28:13and she she she knew she knew that I had
28:16she that she told me that she had she
28:20lived on her side and they wereing like
28:22they were working against me. I didn't
28:24know I didn't know I didn't know
28:28until after the fact and I sitting here
28:30and I'm looking at everything and the
28:32way he was just being towards me. It
28:34didn't make any sense.
28:36But I can connect dots. I I I'm not I'm
28:39stupid for falling in love with him, but
28:42I'm not stupid. Generally, I'm not a
28:44stupid person. Generally, I'm not a
28:46stupid person. Generally, I'm not
28:48stupid.
28:50I was stupid.
28:53But once I was able to remove myself and
28:56look at everything and try to figure out
29:00where I went wrong, like why? How did I
29:03end up there? Like, how did I end up in
29:05that position? And they come, how did I
29:06end up here?
29:10They obviously
29:17for 5 years. Okay. So obviously
29:22she knows him quite better than me. And
29:27the only thing that I can think of
29:30that's logical to me is that there was
29:34some sort of plan from the very
29:36beginning or close to the beginning
29:38after
29:40after he made me fall in love
29:43because he doesn't love me. He loves
29:46himself.
29:48So, I think that from the beginning he
29:51had this fantasy
29:54cuz he's always talked about snatching
29:57some girl off the street and like taking
30:00advantage of her and that's kind of
30:02Yeah. Okay. I didn't
30:04>> He's told he's told you that.
30:05>> Yeah. Yeah, he has. And I come on like
30:09with technology and phones and cameras
30:12everywhere, the likelihood of that
30:14happening is slim to none.
30:16It's just a fantasy
30:19until you have a loyal participant who
30:21will pretend to
30:24be captured by you and allow all this to
30:28happen. That's the only thing that made
30:31sense.
30:32>> How many nights did you You said that
30:34she could have left at any time. How
30:36many nights since she was there that she
30:38after she had been beaten?
30:39>> Every single night. Hold on. I'm sorry.
30:41Finish your question.
30:42>> Yeah. Just how like how many nights
30:43total between the time that she was
30:45there? was what the 15th
30:47>> till the time that she died.
30:48>> Uhhuh.
30:49>> How many times would you say like like
30:52every single time she had an opportunity
30:53to leave?
30:53>> Every single night she had Every single
30:55night she had an opportunity to leave.
30:58Every single night.
30:59>> Was she getting beat every single day?
31:01>> No.
31:02>> Was she getting fed at all?
31:03>> Yes. He was feeding her.
31:06>> Yes.
31:06>> And tending to her
31:07>> and water. Yes.
31:08>> Okay.
31:08>> All the way up until the very last day.
31:12The last day was just he
31:16the emotion became like he was over like
31:19he said that he just got healed. He was
31:23great too.
31:26>> And this is all still about the ring.
31:28>> What about
31:30I believe him or
31:34>> because he had it he had it on his fing
31:37when he got arrested. When that my mom
31:40called when he
31:41>> when he got arrested, he had it on his
31:44finger. I found it in the car after we
31:47had vacuumed the car. Bob, how how does
31:50the ring magically appear on his side,
31:53right? But like,
31:56so I find was like, "Oh, let me give it
31:59to him so that way, you know, he doesn't
32:01think that you had it." She gives to him
32:04and I was like, "Listen, I found it."
32:05And he instantly you had it this whole
32:08time. You wanted You did this. You
32:10wanted her. I never had the ring. I
32:14never had it. I literally have just
32:15found it. I just found it. It's always
32:19It's always me or something go if he
32:21miss he misplaces everything. If
32:23something goes is misplaced
32:31hunt or we go together on the hunt
32:33around the house until it's found. We
32:34don't get an apology or a [ __ ] thank
32:36you. It's just expected.
32:39But everything, every single thing is my
32:44fault. He is never at fault for
32:46anything. For nothing. Nothing. Nothing.
32:50It is always my
32:54So, going back go back to the day that
32:57Miranda died. Tell me what happened.
33:02>> He started off with open hand.
33:04>> What day was this, by the way? I don't
33:06know. Uh the 23rd, I'm assuming the 23rd
33:10of February.
33:11>> Okay.
33:13>> Leading up to the 23rd, he gradually
33:16became more aggressive. He went from
33:18open hand, just the face, the head to
33:22then the body
33:24to close fist.
33:26Um
33:27>> what room is all this taking place in?
33:29>> Huh?
33:29>> What room is all this taking place?
33:31>> His bedroom. She was the living room. As
33:33soon as you walk into the house, that
33:35was his bedroom.
33:36>> Okay.
33:36>> Um
33:39he, you know, chased her in the house at
33:41one point in time and she went into the
33:42kitchen, but it was brought back to the
33:46uh bedroom. Um
33:49so by the 23rd,
33:53soon as she jumped off that bed, he
33:56looked at her, he looked at me, and he
33:58said, "This [ __ ] has my ring." And he
34:00looked at me and the look in his eyes, I
34:03said, "You're right. You're right. She
34:04has it. She has it." And all of the hope
34:07that just that I had just given her just
34:10depleted from her. And that's when
34:13that's why I can't Where's my [ __ ]
34:17ring? Where's my [ __ ] ring? Give me
34:18back my ring. She is. And she's over
34:22here like he needed. He made her poop.
34:24He wouldn't let her flush the toilet.
34:27At this point now she's trying to push
34:29something out of her. The last day she
34:32didn't eat. So there's nothing in her
34:34stomach to push out. She you could see
34:36like I She's trying She's telling him
34:39anything and everything. Help me look
34:40for it. Um let me poop for you. Like
34:43she's trying still like toing but I
34:46don't believe she had it. I know she
34:48didn't. Like I believed her and and and
34:51how the [ __ ] does it end up? And he's
34:53telling me that Angel looked in the car
34:55prior too. still is not in the car. So,
34:57how the did it end up in the car?
34:59>> So, Angel knew what was going on.
35:03>> Angel came over when I wasn't there.
35:06This is one of the times I was at my
35:07mom's. He came over to talk to the girl.
35:10Angel said he believed the girl.
35:12>> Do you know when when that was?
35:13>> I It was at the very beginning.
35:17Um and
35:19he turned around a couple days later and
35:22or a few days. I don't even know how
35:24many days. It's all one big It was all
35:27one big
35:29told Angel that he let the girl go and
35:31she's fine. He let her go, but he
35:34>> Steven told Angel that he let the girl
35:37>> through text message. Um
35:40and
35:44um at the end, we were at the end and
35:49she just
35:52>> Okay. So you
35:53>> by the way girl who shrived for her
35:55chest and and she she was dead. She was
35:59dead.
36:00>> Did he try chest? Did he
36:01>> Yes.
36:01>> Try chest compressions and stuff?
36:03>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. He did. He did.
36:07>> So at this point it's you
36:11[ __ ] Why? Why? Why? Why?
36:15>> So Miranda's dead.
36:19>> What happens next?
36:31Rain is a dead.
36:40He can't stay there anymore because it
36:44was
36:45where happened. So, we need to go
36:47somewhere else.
36:49He says, "Your mom, your mom's still in
36:51Puerto Rico, right?" Yeah. Can't we just
36:54go to your house? Just just just for
36:57somewhere safe to go,
37:01I guess. Yeah.
37:04To my house.
37:10>> Wall goes to the house.
37:11>> Huh?
37:12>> Well, how how does you how do you end up
37:13getting from your house to
37:15>> him in his car? Him. I can't drive. I
37:19don't have a license.
37:20>> So, where's Miranda?
37:22>> Miranda's
37:24look like cuz we got an eviction notice.
37:27It wasn't a legal eviction. I know this
37:29cuz my mom has rented out properties and
37:33so I know what what's what a a legal
37:37document is supposed to look like,
37:40especially for an eviction. And I know
37:42that it takes time and I know that they
37:44I know. So, I looked at it and I said,
37:46"That's not legal, but we still need
37:50like he doesn't obviously he doesn't
37:52want us here, so we're about to move
37:54out."
37:56Um,
37:58so
37:59he in his mind, it looks like we're just
38:02moving out. It looks like we're just
38:03grabbing our [ __ ] on camera. It looks
38:06like we're just grabbing all of our [ __ ]
38:08to move the [ __ ] out because we're
38:09evicted.
38:11Um,
38:15so we go to my mom's house
38:20was there the entire time.
38:26Go to my mom's house.
38:29He is adamant that
38:37um
38:40he wants to do
38:43>> he seemed fascinated by this.
38:45>> Yeah.
38:45>> Okay.
38:46>> He had a heart of the whole time that he
38:49was
38:52by all of this. He was turned on and I
38:56even was says something about it and he
39:00was like I don't know what you're
39:02talking about when it was evident.
39:05It was evident.
39:06>> He had an erection.
39:07>> He had an erection turned on and he got
39:10he enjoyed it. This was all part of a
39:13fantasy and me not knowing what was
39:16going on. My pure raw reaction was part
39:19of it too.
39:24So, you get to your mom's house. What
39:25What time of day is this?
39:26>> I don't remember. I don't. Light or
39:28dark?
39:28>> I want to say
39:31I honestly It was dark. It was dark. Had
39:33to have been dark. It had to have been
39:34dark.
39:35>> Did you guys just go straight there? Did
39:36you stop anywhere along the way?
39:39>> I think it was just a straight shot.
39:42>> That's when he snatched my gold neck or
39:44my gold. He didn't snatch it. It was
39:47accidentally taken off my neck. Was that
39:50when the police were called and went
39:51over to you or
39:52>> police were called multiple times?
39:54>> The time that he most recently got
39:56picked up.
39:56>> I had my mom call.
39:58>> Okay.
39:58>> And I had I was already outside and I
40:02was waiting and I just wanted to leave
40:05and he came up. He was on the hood of
40:09his car with the shotgun looking at me.
40:14And one night he's like on a dress.
40:18He just mouthd it to me.
40:21And I didn't understand why I was he
40:24didn't I wanted to leave. I didn't I
40:27didn't want to be there. You don't want
40:29me to be there. So why are you making
40:31this so hard for me to leave? I just
40:33want to leave. I just want to leave. He
40:35didn't want me to leave clearly.
40:38And then the neighbor came out after
40:42theing chase around the car. The
40:45neighbor came out and I just belineed to
40:47the neighbor because I knew he wouldn't
40:48do anything in front of her. And I said,
40:52"Hey, I have an Uber coming." I said,
40:53"Okay, if I just wait here until the
40:55Uber comes." She said, "Yeah, that's
40:57fine."
40:59And by that point of time, I I had
41:03already told my mom cuz I was on the
41:04phone with my mom the whole time. At
41:07that point in time, I already told mommy
41:08I was like, "I'm scared." Because he the
41:10gun the gun was different. That was the
41:13difference this time. Like the the the
41:14gun was that was different.
41:16>> He had never had before.
41:18>> Never. And he had already
41:23>> that was that was that's what was
41:25different this time. And not to mention,
41:27he had already told me he'd be hunting
41:29me down. That it didn't matter if I
41:31walked anywhere with anyone that me and
41:33the person could get it. like he was
41:36already telling me that he was hunting
41:37me down and that's why I just listen
41:40what's the why why why
41:43and then and then and then he's like oh
41:46let me love you and and take care of you
41:50and just
41:52it was a mind
41:54it was a mind [ __ ] like he knew I just
41:58wanted to be loved
42:01>> can we go back to
42:02>> Yeah
42:03>> after you
42:05any drugs, anything like that course of
42:08>> this.
42:10>> Meth
42:12I had never smoked until like I
42:19me
42:21and and smoked weed. I didn't smoke
42:23weed. He smoked weed. I would hit it
42:26once and I'd be all right. So I
42:30me it was all me.
42:33>> So you get back to your mom's house,
42:36go to sleep,
42:38then what happens?
42:41Like how you guys
42:51were driving around. It was my birthday.
42:54Like that's the thing. was like, I know
42:55we ended up at my mom's house sleeping,
42:59but it was after the body that we ended
43:02up at Congo River
43:05and it was my birthday and from there we
43:07went to my mom's house to sleep. I don't
43:11remember. We drove
43:14the Airbnb. We were supposed to get an
43:17Airbnb and that never happened.
43:20We were supposed to get the Airbnb out
43:22in Clear Water. That's what it was.
43:24That's how we ended up down there. We
43:26were supposed to go, we weren't going to
43:28my mom's house originally. We were going
43:31to an Airbnb that by the time it was
43:35supposed to be booked, the price had
43:37changed. So, we ended up deciding that
43:41we were going to my mom's house. And
43:43when we had made the U-turn, the Congo
43:45River was right there. He looked at me,
43:50want to go?
43:52Sure, I guess. like
43:54it's your birthday. You look good. You
43:57deserve you deserves this. Fine. So we
44:01went the Airbnb. I just It's my
44:04birthday. Why not? My birthday. So there
44:08and then we went to my mom's. That's
44:10what it was. We were driving 19
44:15and and from 54 we ended up going past
44:20because we were supposed to get that
44:22airplane
44:25and then we ended up on after Congo
44:28there.
44:32Okay. Going back to
44:35when you had first initially gone over
44:37to your mom's house in Largo with Steven
44:42And the white car's there. Y
44:44>> at any point did you or anyone call 911?
44:48>> No.
44:50>> Did you have any contact with any law
44:53enforcement
44:54>> front while we shot the body?
44:57>> Yeah.
44:57>> No.
45:03So the problem is that there
45:07was a 911 call
45:09>> and that you had come out and talked to
45:12police.
45:12>> It was after
45:13>> it was after the body. Okay. So what
45:16happened there? Like I know the police
45:17made contact with you,
45:18>> right?
45:22I
45:24he
45:28was coming at me
45:31about the [ __ ]
45:35trying to say that I had it the whole
45:38time when I did
45:41and I told him that he doesn't need to
45:42[ __ ] leave just leave
45:48till leave.
45:50And so I told him, "I'm going to call
45:52911."
45:53I said,
45:55"You need to leave." I call 911. You
45:59won't. I called. I showed him that there
46:02was an emergency call being placed
46:06and I had the phone up to my ear and I
46:08was like, "You need to get off my
46:10property. Leave, leave, leave, leave,
46:11leave." He ended up leaving. I told the
46:14dispatcher,
46:16"I don't need." He left. Cop showed up.
46:20Anyway,
46:22>> I explained to them that I just wanted
46:25someone to leave my property.
46:30And excuse me um
46:35and then
46:37that's that's the day that he
46:42because he took my phone
46:45and
46:47he said he didn't take it.
46:50Hauled my phone. It started ringing in
46:53his pocket. So he went after her, yolked
46:56her up, made her bleed from her nose.
47:00Miss Joanne, who rented the room from my
47:03mom, came out thinking it was me, saw
47:07the altercation between
47:10and then told him that he needed out.
47:13Like it's just it was so many occasions.
47:15It was so many occasions that he's just
47:18attacking me
47:20or the both of us. Like it's just it's
47:21always our fault. He's never at fault.
47:24I
47:26told the lady, the cop lady everything's
47:29fine,
47:32that he had punched me or whatever, but
47:37I wasn't ready yet. That I'd be ready
47:40one day. [ __ ] I wasn't I wasn't ready
47:41yet. I was
47:43>> ready. when you say you want you're
47:45ready
47:47>> just said to press charges against him
47:52>> because he said that if he went down
47:54that I'd be going down with him
47:59>> that if he got arrested first that he
48:02was going to
48:04make sure that I I'd be going to believe
48:08that I would be going off
48:12and I believed him because he has a way
48:13with words. The cops have come out so
48:15many times and they talk to him and they
48:19just
48:20they they I don't know how he always
48:22wins. I don't know how he always wins,
48:25but he always wins. He always wins. The
48:28same lieutenant that came out the first
48:30time that I had the black eye. It was
48:32visible. And he even said, he's like,
48:34"You're speaking in code." No [ __ ] I'm
48:37speaking in code.
48:39And nothing happens.
48:40>> And Largo,
48:41>> St. Pete,
48:42>> St. Pete
48:47Miranda's cell phone
48:49>> is in the ditch.
48:51>> What ditch?
48:52>> It's in the neighborhood in the ditch. I
48:54can't tell you exactly what I mean. I
48:56could probably tell you. I could
48:58probably
49:00I tried I tried looking for it. I
49:02remember that I went to Racetrack and
49:05>> So, it's in St. Pete.
49:06>> It's in St. Pete. It's in the It's in
49:08the um the gutter. The water gutter. The
49:11sewer.
49:11>> Yeah. Racetrack. No, not near. It's in
49:14between. No, not near a shack. It's near
49:17the house. It's one of the gutters near
49:19the house.
49:20>> Okay.
49:20>> 2708. That is near the house.
49:24>> Did Did Miranda have that phone with her
49:26the entire time?
49:27>> That's the first day he got rid of. He
49:30told me to get rid of it. He made me get
49:31rid of it.
49:32>> When did he get rid of it?
49:33>> The very first day I got there.
49:34>> The 15th. Back on.
49:36>> Yeah. Very first time.
49:38>> Did he tell you why?
49:41No, he didn't tell me why. He just told
49:43me take her cell phone. You get rid of
49:46it. Put it in the dumpster. He's like,
49:48"Get rid of it."
49:50>> What's the phone look like?
49:51>> It was gray. It was gray. And And it was
49:55It was a gray cell phone.
49:57>> Not Not iPhone.
49:58>> I want to say it was an iPhone.
50:02>> Did it have a phone case on it?
50:03>> No. Okay. No phone case.
50:04>> Okay.
50:05>> No phone case. It was just the phone.
50:07>> So, you put it in a ditch?
50:09>> No. Gutter. gutter.
50:10>> The gutter. The the the actual sewer
50:12gutter.
50:12>> Oh, she dropped it in there.
50:13>> The sewer gutter.
50:15>> Okay.
50:15>> And the next day it rained.
50:17>> Okay.
50:18>> The next day what?
50:19>> It rained.
50:24>> Okay.
50:27>> And you had your phone with you this
50:29entire time?
50:30>> It's a different phone. He has destroyed
50:31six phones and a tablet of mine. I can't
50:34>> Since the 15th.
50:35>> No, since I've been with him.
50:37>> Well, since the 15th. Since the 15th.
50:39>> Have you had this phone with you since
50:41the 15th?
50:42>> I believe so. Yes. Oh,
50:43>> I believe so.
50:44>> Same number.
50:45>> I don't have sir.
50:46>> Oh, that's just Wi-Fi only.
50:47>> Yes.
50:48>> Okay.
50:48>> There's multiple apps on there where
50:51there's conversations just like he has
50:53multiple phone numbers on there.
50:55>> What numbers?
50:56>> Changing the number.
50:57>> What app you guys normally use to
50:59communicate?
51:00>> There is no Okay.
51:02>> Normal. There's
51:03>> I mean there's different I guess what
51:04he's asking is because you can do
51:06regular messaging or there's different
51:07types of uh like WhatsApp or
51:10>> there's a textree app. It's a text free
51:12app. It's there's text now, text free.
51:16There's there's multiple ads in there.
51:18And there I try I tried to take
51:20screenshots of the conversations because
51:24he ended up uh uh reporting my account
51:27so that the whole conversation would be
51:29deleted and I couldn't have access to it
51:32because he incriminated himself in those
51:35message in the conversations. And he I
51:37and I I'm He caught on that I caught on,
51:41>> right?
51:41>> That I caught on like you're not you're
51:43not this is you did this. This is you.
51:47You're going to have to take
51:48accountability of something sometime.
51:50And this is not this is not this is how
51:52did I I didn't
51:54>> And those messages are on
51:56>> there's messages there. There's plenty
51:57of messages on there. There's videos um
52:00from when he was at my mom's house and
52:02like and and there there's there's video
52:04from when he elubbled me in the [ __ ]
52:06forehead. You can see it in the shadow
52:07on the floor. There there's there's
52:10>> are there videos of Miranda in here?
52:11>> No, but he sent pictures of Miranda beat
52:15up
52:15>> to who?
52:17>> Angel his mom.
52:20>> Mhm.
52:22>> I don't know. A couple other people. I'm
52:24not sure if he said he wouldn't have
52:26took him a picture if you know he was
52:28took he took the pictures and sent them
52:30to get sympathy to try to get someone to
52:31buy him another ring was what he said
52:36and then he said he went and took the
52:39pictures if he would have known she was
52:41going to die.
52:43though I think he was supposed to let
52:44her go and then I got too invol like too
52:47he he got too into it and it was an
52:49accident is I don't think she was
52:52supposed to I don't know I don't know I
52:54don't know I don't know I don't believe
52:56him I don't believe anything that comes
52:57out as
53:05>> let me ask you this so would you be
53:08willing to give us concepts to extract
53:10those messages from the phone
53:11>> absolutely Okay.
53:14Absolutely. Thanks.
53:34So, I'm going to go through this form
53:36real quick. Okay. Um, it says, "I,
53:38Michelle Brand, is hereby authorized. I
53:40put myself detective Jacon Dallas
53:42detective with the St. Peterburg Police
53:44Department or any other law enforcement
53:45officer or digital evidence analyst
53:48working with the affformentioned office
53:50to take c to take custody of copied and
53:52analyze the items detailed below for
53:55evidence. I understand that copies of
53:56the contents of the items including all
53:58files and data may be created and
54:01retained for analysis. I also understand
54:03the analysis of the copies of the media
54:06may continue even after the items
54:08designated for analysis are returned. I
54:10provide my consent to this analysis
54:12freely, willingly, and voluntarily and
54:14with the knowledge that I have the right
54:15to refuse consent. I understand that
54:18information from this device may be used
54:20against me in court of law. I provide my
54:21consent without fear, threat, coercion,
54:24or promise of any kind.
54:26>> You agree?
54:28So, what I'll have you do is print your
54:30name and then sign right here.
54:34Put your name on this white box
54:45on your signature.
54:51And then the date is the 8th and the
54:54time is 12:21.
54:59It's okay. It's fine.
55:12>> Sorry.
55:13>> You're good.
55:16>> Well, I mean, yes. Yes.
55:34What is your password?
55:57Was there ever any talks about
56:01you you do something something is done
56:04so heinous to this poor girl? Okay. What
56:07is the plan afterwards? Was that ever
56:09discussed? Like going forward
56:12honestly like like we're just going to
56:13act like nothing ever happened. Like
56:14what was the you guys have conversations
56:16about what was to happen going forward?
56:23>> Mr. You need to use the
56:27>> Yeah. Yeah. She's here.
56:35>> Okay.
56:46I thought you
56:51>> show I am curious about a couple things.
57:00Namely, I'm I'm curious about the cell
57:02phone first. So, you said you threw it
57:04in like a storm drain, the one that's
57:06just got like the big heavy concrete on
57:08top.
57:08>> Mhm. If I show you this map, would you
57:10be able to help us?
57:11>> Probably not.
57:12>> Okay. If I put you in a car and we drive
57:15over to the house, would you be able to
57:17show us kind of point us in the right
57:19direction?
57:19>> I like I You don't think Steven tried to
57:22make me do this as well?
57:25>> Steven was trying to recover the phone
57:26as well.
57:27>> When was that?
57:30>> Afterwards.
57:31>> Afterwards after you had already Yes.
57:33>> got rid of her.
57:34>> Yes.
57:34>> And came back.
57:36>> Yes.
57:36>> Did you recover the phone?
57:37>> No.
57:38>> Okay. But you know which strain it
57:40>> I'm not I don't know if you've ever been
57:42put under some sort of pressure like
57:44that.
57:45>> You're right.
57:45>> I don't remember.
57:46>> Okay. Okay.
57:48>> All right. All right.
57:49>> I'm trying to keep my [ __ ] together. I'm
57:51trying to tell you the truth.
57:52>> You're doing great.
57:53>> Everything I know.
57:57I don't remember which one.
57:59>> That's okay. That's okay. We just have
58:01to ask. We have to try. Okay. You know
58:04why we do this, right? We have to try.
58:06It's not for me. It's not for you.
58:10>> It's for her.
58:10>> It's for her.
58:11>> I know. Not by.
58:14>> That's why we asked like if we put you
58:16in the car, we drove over there. Maybe
58:18maybe you might see see a sight.
58:20>> I'm thinking maybe. I remember that I
58:23stopped at the first one and it was too
58:25open and I seen a cameras. And then I
58:26stopped at a second one and there was
58:28some guys working or like they were in a
58:30driveway or something and I had to walk
58:32around from the driver's side and like
58:34bend down as if I were tying my shoe to
58:37put it instead. That that's what I
58:38remember.
58:39>> Okay. Well, we'll we'll take a drive.
58:40But before we do that though, um I got
58:44to ask you some other questions.
58:45>> Of course.
58:46>> So you said that he's had this history
58:49of picking up girls through grinder.
58:52Who?
58:53>> He picks up hookers. He picks up
58:55females. Period.
58:56>> Okay. So, where is he picking these
58:58girls up?
58:59>> Anywhere.
59:00>> Anywhere. Okay.
59:00>> He could be driving down the street. One
59:02time he came home with a couple. He
59:04wanted us to all have sex with each
59:06other.
59:08>> Okay. To your knowledge, do you know if
59:11he has done this to anybody else?
59:13>> No. To my knowledge. No.
59:16>> Better person to ask.
59:20>> Works.
59:21>> Okay.
59:23Because you understand like from what
59:24we're looking at what this looks like,
59:26right? Like if he's I mean they have
59:28documentaries made for this stuff. They
59:30have
59:31>> I know
59:31>> they have people going up and picking up
59:33vulnerable women.
59:34>> He's got
59:35>> hurting them. Whatever. I just want to
59:37make sure that
59:37>> Not that I know of.
59:38>> Okay.
59:41Um the other thing I wanted to ask you
59:43about too is
59:45what about the the the pets and animals
59:48that he gets off Craigslist?
59:50>> What about them? Tell me about it cuz
59:54it's disturbing.
59:55>> Extremely.
59:56>> So what what does he do? What happens?
1:00:00He picks them up by
1:00:07that's
1:00:10that's how he started to with me. I was
1:00:13sitting on the toilet
1:00:16puppy.
1:00:18He was looking at me in front of my eyes
1:00:20and he said,
1:00:23"This is instead of me doing this to
1:00:26you, this is how I do it." And he
1:00:29snapped each one of the puppies limbs as
1:00:33I'm on the toilet. And of course, I
1:00:35tried remaining calm,
1:00:39but tears I can't help but tears
1:00:41streaming down my face. That's how it
1:00:43started.
1:00:46How many animals did you see him?
1:00:48>> I don't know
1:00:50if he could.
1:00:51>> No. No.
1:00:54>> How long has he been doing this for?
1:00:55>> I don't know.
1:00:56>> Since you've known him?
1:00:58>> Yes.
1:00:58>> Okay.
1:01:03Is that the only
1:01:05animal you observed him doing that to?
1:01:08That one time?
1:01:09>> No.
1:01:11>> Is it always dogs?
1:01:12>> No. What other animals?
1:01:17>> Other animals. H
1:01:19>> other animals, cats,
1:01:21>> guinea pigs.
1:01:25>> Is it usually the same way or is it
1:01:27different methods of how he kills him?
1:01:31>> So, what do you mean by that?
1:01:41>> He's obsessed.
1:01:43We're killing.
1:01:44>> Yes.
1:01:49>> Stab these dogs. Stab any animals?
1:01:52>> Yeah.
1:01:53>> Because you use objects.
1:01:55>> Yes.
1:01:58>> Can you Can you I know. I know it's got
1:02:00to be a lot for you. I get I don't get
1:02:01it, but I know it's a lot for you. I'm
1:02:02just asking you to do your best to try
1:02:04to help us out with this.
1:02:05>> What would it
1:02:06>> So, what else? What What else is he
1:02:07using?
1:02:10>> Anything. Anything.
1:02:12He busted the thing with the extend the
1:02:14extender of the a bolt the the the one
1:02:18that goes around
1:02:19>> the tire.
1:02:20>> No, I grabbed the tire iron that time.
1:02:22He wasn't expecting me to grab a tire
1:02:24iron and that's why he finally stopped
1:02:25the car and let me out.
1:02:28>> It was an extension that goes on the end
1:02:31of like a um drill that will tighten
1:02:36something. It was just a skinny one. And
1:02:39he and I went to block and he was like,
1:02:43"Oh, and this whole thing swallowed the
1:02:46up." He anything anything that will
1:02:50prolong
1:02:52the inevitable.
1:02:59>> He like torturing.
1:03:03>> Yeah.
1:03:05>> Yeah.
1:03:07I think he enjoyed torturing me the most
1:03:18cuz he was the only
1:03:42ins
1:03:47and I greatly appreciate. Is there
1:03:49anything else that neither of us have
1:03:51asked
1:03:52from you that we should know?
1:04:16Don't fall for Don't fall for his life.
1:04:23Know that he's
1:04:25cleaves his own lies. Leaves his own
1:04:28lives. So that's very convincing.
1:04:31>> I briefly before we stepped out of the
1:04:34room, um I started asking you a question
1:04:36about what the plan was going forward if
1:04:39there was something that you guys had
1:04:41spoke about where you
1:04:42>> was stick together and then it was uh
1:04:47you I I he when
1:04:52I was going back and forth between
1:04:56and
1:05:00I my original plan was just to I wanted
1:05:03to commit suicide because I couldn't I
1:05:05wanted to commit and then
1:05:10I realized that I'm still a mom even
1:05:13regardless of what happened. I'm still a
1:05:15mom.
1:05:18And that's the day that he cornered me
1:05:20in the shower. I was in the shower and
1:05:23he went to come after me with
1:05:25something. It was hole. It's not
1:05:28something. It was something in his hand.
1:05:30And I don't know where I got the string,
1:05:32but I ripped it out of his hands. That's
1:05:35the day that he finally let me leave
1:05:38because I told him I was like, I have
1:05:39something to lift to my
1:05:42So,
1:05:43>> was this at the LGO househ?
1:05:48So
1:05:50when I finally came to terms that I had
1:05:53a reason to live and I had a reason to
1:05:55tell the truth and I had a reason,
1:05:58that's when [ __ ] started getting worse
1:06:01with every time he was around me. The
1:06:04physical kept getting worse and worse
1:06:06until finally
1:06:08pulled the gun and that's that was when
1:06:12he got arrested.
1:06:14So,
1:06:16>> so your intention was to just after the
1:06:18fact to stay with him?
1:06:20>> My intention was to commit. He didn't
1:06:23want me to commit suicide yet.
1:06:26>> Did he talk about his plans?
1:06:28>> No, just to ride it out until [ __ ] hit
1:06:31the band.
1:06:39>> And Stephen,
1:06:41>> who else knew about this girl? Did
1:06:44>> she know about the death or just the
1:06:45beating?
1:06:48>> Did your mom know?
1:06:50No.
1:06:54>> So Steven's mom knew that he had
1:06:56committed murder.
1:06:58>> I'm not sure exactly what all she knew.
1:07:04I'm not sure exactly what all she knew.
1:07:06I just knew that when
1:07:09I found the ring
1:07:11and he said he tells her everything. He
1:07:15tells her everything.
1:07:18I just knew that when we found the ring,
1:07:20he wanted to drive over to his mom's
1:07:23house. And I asked if I can get out the
1:07:25car. He said, "Yes, as long as I keep my
1:07:28mouth shut." And I got out the car and
1:07:30he said, "Look, I found the ring. She
1:07:32had it the whole time. I didn't know
1:07:34breakdown. I said, "I swear to God, I
1:07:36didn't have it." She looked at me. She
1:07:38said, "I believe."
1:07:44Is there any any I'm just going to run
1:07:46this by and just tell me if there's any
1:07:48truth to it.
1:07:50So, he picks up Miranda on Valentine's
1:07:53Day. That's a special day. Everyone
1:07:55knows that's a special day. And then
1:07:57>> obviously, you have your feelings for
1:07:59him. You love him, right?
1:08:01>> And we all see each other.
1:08:04And then he ends up picking Miranda,
1:08:07>> right?
1:08:07>> And that upsets you,
1:08:09>> right?
1:08:10>> She had nothing to do with maybe
1:08:11potentially taking the ring, hiding it
1:08:15>> to blame her because you hate her so
1:08:18much.
1:08:18>> No, I don't even know the girl. I don't
1:08:20even know the girl to hate her. Was I
1:08:22hurt? Absolutely.
1:08:24>> But how many times How many other girls
1:08:26has he hurt me with before?
1:08:29>> It hurt me more the fact that he didn't
1:08:30get me anything back. cuz he got him the
1:08:33gift.
1:08:33>> He got him the gift. He didn't give me
1:08:34nothing back. I kind of already
1:08:36initially knew that's how it was going
1:08:38to be. But still, that hurt more than
1:08:39anything cuz again, he feels the world
1:08:42owes him. So, he is trying to make up
1:08:44for the 11 years he was already in
1:08:45prison for by getting as much [ __ ] as
1:08:47he possibly can. So, he's No.
1:08:52>> Okay.
1:08:53>> I don't know her. I don't know her not
1:08:56like her or hate her.
1:09:05How high?
1:09:07>> Cuz I mean like you said the the ring is
1:09:08miraculously found in the car.
1:09:10>> Miraculously. I'm trying to tell you it
1:09:12was on the top shelf. I seen it on the
1:09:14top shelf and I think you may have found
1:09:16it. Infected this with all the mine.
1:09:18>> Why wasn't it said though when you saw
1:09:19it that day? Why didn't you say
1:09:21something?
1:09:22>> Because again I mean
1:09:23>> cuz listen you knew would have known had
1:09:26that ring have been recovered. I said
1:09:28something.
1:09:28>> What is I could have quelled this whole
1:09:30book.
1:09:30>> I said something. It was not part of the
1:09:33plan. His plan. This was all his plan.
1:09:36>> Right. But he's sitting there. You're
1:09:37sitting there telling me that he's
1:09:38fixated on this ring. This ring. This
1:09:39ring. This ring. You see this ring there
1:09:41and you don't you don't say anything.
1:09:43>> I did.
1:09:44>> I did.
1:09:46>> When
1:09:46>> I did
1:09:47>> when you left and you sent him a text
1:09:48message. Why not say it there when you
1:09:49saw it?
1:09:50>> Because he wasn't he wasn't going for
1:09:53it.
1:09:54>> What do you mean if you if you have a
1:09:55ring and you show him? He wasn't I I
1:09:57couldn't get to it. How the [ __ ]
1:09:59>> I did.
1:10:00>> He left the pillow. He moved the pillow
1:10:04and put it and and looked and said,
1:10:06"It's not up there." And put it back. I
1:10:08swore I saw a gold thing up there. Like
1:10:11I did tell him.
1:10:15>> What's this ring? No, you're fine.
1:10:16What's this ring look like?
1:10:18>> It's the one in custody. He had it on
1:10:20his finger. It was the pinky ring. It's
1:10:22the the the Egyptian one. He's got the
1:10:26Grim Reaper. He's got the Nugget. And
1:10:28he's got the Egyptian one. And that's
1:10:30the one Angel bought him.
1:10:32>> What's the deal between him and Angel?
1:10:38>> Uh,
1:10:39>> do they hook up?
1:10:40>> Yeah. Um, Angel
1:10:43is caught in his wife falls in deceit as
1:10:46well. Uh, Angel, that's his best friend
1:10:49is how Angel described it to me.
1:10:51Although when Angel and I had our very
1:10:54first conversation prior to Steve tells
1:10:58me that Angel knows everything and that
1:11:00there's nothing off the table that I can
1:11:02be completely honest with him. I said,
1:11:04"Okay." Well, apparently Angel did not
1:11:07know that I lived with Steven, did not
1:11:09know that I was his girlfriend. Angel
1:11:10had no idea about any of that. So, when
1:11:12I when Angel asked, I said, "You could
1:11:15see the hurt on his face."
1:11:20Um, I believe
1:11:22I believe that Steve may uh can't
1:11:26believe we say this out loud.
1:11:30Steve may be in denial and has not
1:11:32accepted that
1:11:35he
1:11:36enjoys or that he could be bisexual. M
1:11:40>> um he uh
1:11:45he you know Angel he claims that Angel
1:11:49only sucks his dick and possibly
1:11:54okay he says that the only thing he does
1:11:55is he's a top
1:11:58which he will have sex with a man but
1:12:02>> he will give it
1:12:03>> he'll give it but he won't receive is
1:12:05what he's told me and that he will let
1:12:06them suck his dick.
1:12:10Um, with Angel, I know that it's
1:12:12different with Angel. I know it is. I
1:12:15know there's some sort of relationship
1:12:16there. And that's I mean,
1:12:20it is what it is. Um,
1:12:24I know
1:12:27that Angel
1:12:29>> He and Angel have loved love each other.
1:12:31>> Absolutely. And that's why that ring was
1:12:33so sentimental to him because of his
1:12:35>> how much he's in love with Angel.
1:12:38>> I think so. Yeah. He said that's his
1:12:39baby. It's like his baby. He called it
1:12:42his kid.
1:12:45Called it his kid.
1:12:47I was like, "Okay." I And as he's saying
1:12:49this, I'm like, I'm trying that I'm
1:12:52connecting dots like, "Okay." So like my
1:12:54my initial feeling like about it being
1:12:57more than what you admit to me has to be
1:13:00right. like it has to be right. Like I
1:13:02can't I'm not that like I'm not that far
1:13:04gone. Like it only makes sense.
1:13:08>> Angel doesn't like me.
1:13:10>> Um
1:13:11because I lived with him and was his
1:13:15girlfriend or whatever.
1:13:18Angel doesn't like me.
1:13:20>> Do you think he told Angel about the
1:13:22killing?
1:13:23>> I don't know.
1:13:25I don't know. I think that what he told
1:13:28me is that he
1:13:31hinted towards every he hinted towards,
1:13:33you know,
1:13:35pretty much
1:13:38if Angel has too much to lose,
1:13:43Angel has too much to lose. So, he
1:13:44wouldn't want to put him in a position
1:13:46to where
1:13:49he would squeal
1:13:52and
1:13:53>> get him and try,
1:13:54>> right? not knowing that that's exactly
1:13:57what he was doing when he would go to
1:13:59his house after the fact and hide out
1:14:02there for one night. Like he he
1:14:05>> after the fact
1:14:06>> he would he literally kicked me out the
1:14:07car.
1:14:08>> After the fact of what? Like which what
1:14:11are you referring to specifically like
1:14:13after the fact of what Steven did? Are
1:14:14we talking about this incident?
1:14:16>> The the the Miranda.
1:14:17>> Okay. After Miranda
1:14:18>> after the You're saying after the
1:14:20killing of Miranda, he stayed at Angel's
1:14:22house?
1:14:23>> Yes. After Miranda had Yes. He stayed
1:14:25the night at Angel's house.
1:14:28I had threatened to go to Angel's house
1:14:30and tell Angel.
1:14:32And he told me that Angel called one of
1:14:35his female friends to come over and meet
1:14:38me there to beat my ass instead. So
1:14:43that's So it's I don't know. I told him
1:14:45you needed to confess to Angel so that
1:14:47Angel knows. Otherwise, I was going to
1:14:48tell him.
1:14:49>> So your plan was to tell Angel what he
1:14:51had did to Miranda?
1:14:52>> I had threatened.
1:14:55I had threatened him with that. Yes.
1:14:58Because
1:15:02it was
1:15:03>> We need to go um take a ride to try to
1:15:06find that uh
1:15:08>> Yeah.
1:15:09>> Let me do this real quick.
1:15:10>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
1:15:11>> Um
1:15:13you've been so great with us and we
1:15:15greatly appreciate you being super
1:15:16cooperative with us. Um we're trying to
1:15:18do what we can for Miranda. Would you be
1:15:20willing to provide uh your DNA sample to
1:15:22us?
1:15:23>> Okay. Um, I just have to go through this
1:15:24like again. It's going to take two
1:15:25seconds.
1:15:58All right. So, it says, "I, Michelle
1:15:59Brandis Brandice, have been informed of
1:16:02my constitutional right not to have a
1:16:04search made of my person or provide
1:16:05samples without a search warrant or
1:16:07motion to compel. I, Michelle Brandis,
1:16:09and only wave all the affforementioned
1:16:10rights, allion rights, and here hereby
1:16:13authorize Detective J. Gonzalez, myself,
1:16:15to conduct a search of my person." and
1:16:17we're going to obtain saliva, the cotton
1:16:20swab, um, as well as any other evidence
1:16:22which may they desire. I understand that
1:16:23any evidence obtained can and will be
1:16:25used against me in court. The search is
1:16:27being performed here. Um, the written
1:16:29permissions be made by me to the above
1:16:30named persons yourself freely and
1:16:32voluntarily without threats or promises
1:16:34of any kind. If you agree to that,
1:16:37ma'am, um, please sign.
1:16:40Great. Let me witness witness it.
1:17:31Okay. So, what you're going to do is
1:17:32ma'am, you're going to take the
1:17:33applicators and swab each side of your
1:17:35mouth for about 5 seconds on both sides
1:17:37with both of them.
1:17:42You do this side or no? Right
1:17:46back in here again.
1:17:52>> All right.
1:18:01>> All right. Sounds good.
1:18:22Yeah,
1:18:25>> take a ride.
1:18:35>> Right. I know we asked just so he has
1:18:37nothing on here. That's the one.
1:18:44>> Oh, okay. Oh, okay.
1:18:47>> Okay.
1:18:48>> Is your ID in there like that?
1:18:51>> What?
1:18:51>> Your ID.
1:18:52>> Your ID.
1:19:02>> What's that device?
1:19:05Uh,
1:19:06>> that's the date on.
1:19:13[Music]
1:19:17>> Yes, sir.
1:19:20>> Who's Daniel?
1:19:29>> 67.
1:19:43It's neat to see someone actually
1:19:44carrying change.
1:19:48>> Feel like women carry change, men. I'm
1:19:49like, what do you guys do with the
1:19:50change? What do you What do you look for
1:19:52change?
1:19:54>> Just magic spears. at the whole story.
1:20:00>> Was it garbage in the bedroom?
1:20:09>> After the interrogation, Michelle
1:20:11Brandes was returned to her cell at the
1:20:13Penllis County Jail where she remains
1:20:15held without bond. Investigators believe
1:20:18she played a direct role in the final
1:20:20moments of Miranda Corsett's life. From
1:20:23the abuse that left Miranda battered and
1:20:25broken to the act that ended her life to
1:20:28the dismemberment that followed,
1:20:30Michelle and her partner Steven Gres are
1:20:33both charged with first-degree murder,
1:20:35kidnapping, and abuse of a human corpse.
1:20:38Prosecutors have announced they will
1:20:39pursue the death penalty. Their cases
1:20:41will be tried in Penllis County Circuit
1:20:43Court. Pre-trial hearings are already
1:20:46underway. No trial date has been set. If
1:20:49convicted, Michelle Brandes could face
1:20:51life in prison or execution. And for
1:20:54now, the wait for justice continues. If
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