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0:00That's a girl's face right there.
0:02>> Oh, see I didn't see that. Like I didn't
0:03see
0:04>> stuck
0:06right underneath the grill of your car
0:09and you dragged her.
0:15>> On August 14th, 2024, a feud between two
0:19groups of women escalated across St.
0:21Paul and Maplewood, Minnesota.
0:23Earlier that day, members [music]
0:25associated with the two groups were
0:26involved in a firearm confrontation in
0:28St. Paul.
0:29Police recovered [music] spent pistol
0:30casings, but no injuries were reported
0:33and no immediate arrests were made.
0:34>> [music]
0:35>> Later that evening, the groups used
0:36digital communications to arrange a
0:38physical fight at Wakefield Park in
0:40Maplewood.
0:41At around 9:20 p.m., 23-year-old [music]
0:44Zequira "Ziggy" Anderson and 22-year-old
0:47Aliya Joseph were standing near their
0:49vehicle at Larpen Tour
0:51>> [music]
0:51>> Avenue East and Dieter Street North when
0:53a dark blue Dodge Charger drove into the
0:55group.
0:57Joseph was thrown into the air [music]
0:58and survived with non-life-threatening
1:00injuries.
1:01Anderson became trapped beneath the
1:03vehicle and was dragged for an extended
1:04[music] distance before being taken to
1:06the hospital where she died. A witness
1:08later reported seeing the damaged
1:10[music] Charger leaving the area and
1:11identified Ashley Couch as its owner and
1:13driver.
1:15The following morning, police found the
1:16vehicle hidden in a St. Paul [music]
1:18alley with its rear license plate
1:20removed and trash cans positioned in
1:22front of it.
1:23Now, investigators [music]
1:24sit down with Couch to determine what
1:26happened that night and why she left the
1:27scene.
1:28>> [music]
1:28>> This is the interrogation of Ashley
1:30Couch.
1:31>> Detective will be here in a little bit.
1:33And have a seat for you, okay? Sure you
1:35don't want a bottle of water or
1:36something? I'm good, thanks.
1:38No? Hey, can they tell me what this is
1:40about?
1:41I can't, the detectives will.
1:45Uh,
1:46so no water, yes? No, okay. All right.
1:52Look at me.
2:03>> No, you're fine, right there.
2:04>> Yeah. You want some water or anything?
2:07Okay, so we were
2:09>> three.
2:09>> at uh
2:12I was I was I talked to you out there.
2:13Stop. You just got arrested.
2:16What What do you got right now?
2:18When you just got arrested out of the
2:19hot
2:20I was there when I said I'll come back
2:21and talk to you.
2:23Okay, so I'm uh
2:24Detective Marino.
2:26>> This Detective Forsythe.
2:28>> Bergeon.
2:29>> Um
2:30so we want to
2:33just talk to you about
2:38about what's going on here.
2:40So we're at the PD and we got to read
2:42you your Miranda rights, okay? But then
2:45we just want
2:47after we read you your rights, we want
2:48to talk to you and get
2:51get your side of everything.
2:52>> Okay, we know a lot of other stuff and
2:54whatever.
2:55Some of it might be a bunch of lies
2:58or whatnot. Um
3:00we want to
3:02talk to you about this. Sound cool?
3:04>> Okay, so we just got to
3:05do your Miranda rights, which are you
3:08have the right to remain silent,
3:09anything you say or do can be used
3:10against you
3:11in a court of law. You have a right to
3:12have an attorney present now or any time
3:14during questioning. If you can't afford
3:16an attorney, one will be appointed for
3:17you without cost. Okay, so make sense?
3:20Understand?
3:21Okay, so you want to talk to us so we
3:23can figure out what happened here
3:25you know, from
3:27from your side.
3:28>> What?
3:29>> Last night.
3:32>> What?
3:33>> With uh
3:35Barpinder and Prosperity.
3:38Did you go there?
3:39You have a Dodge Charger, right? Okay.
3:42So did did uh you drive there with your
3:44Charger?
3:47Is there some girls that were uh trying
3:51to get you to fight and get some other
3:53bunch of other people to fight on
3:55Facebook live. I mean, we've seen some
3:56of these videos.
3:58What what happened with all that?
4:00>> I don't need to not even see what you're
4:01talking about.
4:03>> Who? You don't know who the girls that
4:04posted those, made those posts about
4:06coming here and fighting on that site?
4:08>> No. Well, I need a lawyer cuz I don't
4:10need to know what you're talking about.
4:12>> Cuz some of you, I mean, we read you
4:13your rights. Uh, you can talk to us now
4:16or
4:17not. We're with a lawyer with a lawyer
4:19or without a lawyer, but we we don't
4:21have your side of the story.
4:24We have
4:25what other people are saying, what these
4:27Facebook live videos are showing, stuff
4:30like that.
4:31We want to
4:33we want to get your side of the story so
4:35we can understand it fully.
4:39>> Okay.
4:42>> Do you want to talk to us about that or
4:43no?
4:45>> Not really cuz I don't even know like
4:47what y'all talking about.
4:50>> All right.
4:51Well, so I'll just tell you some stuff.
4:53We have your car, okay?
4:55>> Yeah, I thought it was in the impound,
4:57but okay.
4:58>> No, it's at the crime lab. It's being
5:00processed.
5:02Um, cuz there's a bunch of damage that's
5:05consistent to what happened over there
5:07at Lark and Lander and Prosperity.
5:10So, we've seen the video that shows your
5:12car
5:13driving over the girls.
5:18>> The girls?
5:19>> Yeah.
5:23Do you remember all this?
5:28>> I don't know like
5:33You said I hit some girls driving over
5:35them or what?
5:37>> Mhm.
5:39>> So, the video show me hitting
5:41and driving
5:42>> Have you not seen this video? I mean,
5:43like it's
5:43>> No, someone sent it to me today.
5:45>> Did it? Okay. Did you watch it?
5:47>> Yeah, but I don't see what you see.
5:50>> Was that your car in the video?
5:51>> Yeah, I told you. I drive a Charger,
5:54yeah.
5:54>> You were driving that car, right?
5:56>> Yes.
5:57>> Okay.
5:58Didn't that video
5:59>> But you didn't see me.
6:01Like
6:03>> What was that?
6:05>> Said that's not what the video show.
6:07Well, the video
6:08>> All right, I got
6:09Okay, so the video
6:10>> Someone said to me animals biting at
6:12this your car and I'm like, yes.
6:15>> Okay. So
6:17that video
6:19showed you driving your car.
6:21>> Mhm.
6:23>> And were you going Westbound on
6:24Larpenteur?
6:25>> Yeah, I don't know.
6:26>> You don't know the directions. Okay, so
6:28do you know where like that baseball
6:30field is on the corner of Larpenteur and
6:32Prosperity?
6:33>> Well, maybe straight forward, but you
6:35I don't know what you're talking about
6:36because
6:38I don't know the girls you're talking
6:39about.
6:40I don't I wasn't trying to
6:43>> Okay.
6:44Why were you there?
6:45>> my baby in the car.
6:46>> Why were you at that intersection?
6:48>> Sitting right there because I seen the
6:50fight. I shouldn't have been being
6:51nosey.
6:52But when they start talking about
6:53weapons and [ __ ] I tried to pull off.
6:56Now, if you got my car, you'll know my
6:57car is still messed up, too.
7:00>> Who somebody start talking about
7:02weapons?
7:04>> Well, maybe I'm speaking too much, but
7:06yeah, it was a lot of it was
7:07>> No, but so this is what I'm saying.
7:09>> of stuff going on out there.
7:10>> Okay.
7:11>> And like I said, the video I got it
7:13shows one girl, it doesn't show me
7:16like like you saying I ran over somebody
7:19and all that. It shows them like well,
7:22one of them it shows
7:24I don't even see what one.
7:26>> Which one goes over the hood? Is that
7:27what you're talking about?
7:28>> No.
7:30She like got hit and then got up and
7:32went that way. And I kept going. That's
7:35what it shows in the video. And I'm not
7:37going to stop. Y'all talking about Mason
7:39the car, Mason Mason people shooting,
7:43all that. I'm not I got a baby in the
7:44car. I don't know.
7:46>> Okay.
7:47>> Once that was said I
7:48>> So some of the people there were talking
7:50about
7:51having mace and having weapons.
7:53>> They did have mace. They did have
7:55weapons.
7:56>> They were
7:56>> So I pulled off and it it maced me.
7:59>> What did you see?
8:01>> Me?
8:01>> Yeah. And what did you see?
8:03>> Knives, mace.
8:06Then someone said about some guns. I
8:08don't know but I me personally I had a
8:112-month-old baby in the car.
8:13I'm pulling off.
8:14>> Was there anybody else in the car with
8:16you?
8:18>> I don't want to put them in it but yeah.
8:20>> Okay. But that 2-year-old 2-year-old
8:22that's your child, right?
8:23>> That I have a 2-year-old.
8:24>> Yeah.
8:25Deondre or Deondre, okay. That's who you
8:28were with.
8:28>> No. I was with my 2-month-old.
8:31>> 2-month-old, okay.
8:32>> I just had a baby 2 months ago, too.
8:34>> Okay. What's that baby's name?
8:36>> Amaya.
8:37>> Amaya? So that's the only child that was
8:40with you the 2-month-old. Okay. The
8:422-year-old Deondre wasn't in the car
8:44with you?
8:45So just you and
8:47What was it? The 2-month-old. What's the
8:49baby's name?
8:50>> Amaya.
8:50>> Amaya. You and Amaya are the only people
8:52in the car?
8:53>> Mhm.
8:53>> Okay. [clears throat] And
8:54what's that?
8:55>> Yeah.
8:56It was one more else but I don't want to
8:57put them in it.
8:59>> Is that an adult?
9:00>> Mhm.
9:02And it don't even matter why they cuz
9:05yeah.
9:07>> You don't want to state that person?
9:10>> I don't even know cuz then they're going
9:11to say why did I put them in so I said
9:13no.
9:14>> Let me
9:16>> I have a car.
9:19>> All right. So you another person
9:21>> and my baby
9:22>> and your baby in the car. These other
9:24people
9:25have knives, mace, talking about guns.
9:30>> I know y'all not even talking about
9:32guns. I know you know somebody shot,
9:34too.
9:35>> There?
9:37Or down by the BCA?
9:40>> I didn't even know that that happened
9:41down by the BCA.
9:42>> We didn't know anything about any
9:43gunshots at Lurking and Prosperity.
9:47That occurred?
9:50This is what I was trying to tell you
9:51cuz we don't There's There's not
9:52something
9:53>> All I know is that you got my vehicle.
9:55You asked me was it mine. I said yes,
9:58but I thought it was in the impound
10:00because it was parked like in the yard.
10:03>> Whose yard?
10:05On the claim?
10:06>> Yeah.
10:06>> That's where it towed from. Whose yard
10:08is that?
10:12Is that Keon's thought of He was kind of
10:14telling me like is that his sister's
10:15house or something?
10:17I didn't really understand what Keon was
10:18saying. Okay, so that's Keon's sister's
10:20house where the car was. Okay.
10:22Did you bring the car there?
10:24>> I didn't even but yeah.
10:26>> Somebody else drove the car there?
10:29>> Yeah, but the car the The problem is the
10:32Before all this even happened, like if
10:35you call the dealership,
10:36the car is messed up.
10:38When I got it, I was supposed to be
10:40trying to get a new engine or whatever
10:43for the car. The motor's messed up, the
10:44engine's messed up. And now the
10:46transmission's messed up. It's old.
10:49Yeah.
10:50>> Okay.
10:52>> The car is not going to make it. It
10:53keeps stopping and going, cutting off.
10:56>> Just on its own? It keeps doing that?
10:58>> Yeah, the transmission is slipping, so
11:00it'll just cut off.
11:01>> Okay.
11:02All right.
11:05So,
11:06you went there
11:08just randomly? And you saw people
11:10fighting? And then they started talking
11:11about
11:13Or did you see the Facebook posting? I
11:15mean, so lots of people said there was
11:16this posting going on. We've seen that,
11:17you know, come here and fight and all
11:19this stuff.
11:20>> So, you know I don't know these people
11:21then.
11:22>> I don't know that. That's why you were
11:23saying
11:23>> If you see them Facebook people, you
11:24know I don't know these people.
11:26>> Okay.
11:26>> You know who they were fighting with?
11:28Cuz that says all of that on Facebook.
11:30>> Do you know a girl named Abriana?
11:33>> You know like come on now. Don't play
11:36with me. You know.
11:37>> Listen, we talked to them and they said
11:38they didn't know you.
11:42>> So what does the Facebook say?
11:44Cuz it's like you wanted me to you got
11:46to drive for me. I don't want to speak
11:47about other people. I only can tell you
11:48about what I did. I don't want to be
11:51snitching on nobody else or whatever. I
11:54just only want to tell you talk about
11:56me. What happened with me? You said you
11:58have my car. Okay, cool. You said I ran
12:01somebody. No, I didn't.
12:03But if the video shows me hitting
12:05somebody in a green shorts or something
12:07the little light-skinned girl.
12:08>> The one that gets up?
12:09>> And she got up and walked off.
12:11>> In that video
12:12>> People ask me why I didn't stop and to
12:14see if she's okay. Why would I stop?
12:16>> So how many How many girls did you see
12:18there?
12:19>> out there fighting?
12:20>> Okay, when you were driving through
12:21there, you only saw that girl?
12:24>> No, it was like a lot of girls out
12:26there.
12:26>> You watched the girls?
12:27>> Yeah. [snorts] A lot of people.
12:29>> Your car hit two girls.
12:31>> My car hit two girls.
12:33>> Mhm. That's so the one girl gets up, the
12:35other girl is under the car.
12:37>> I just I didn't know that. On the video
12:39it shows the little girl the
12:41light-skinned girl in some green shorts
12:43and she learned it.
12:44>> And she gets up and she's kind of laying
12:45there.
12:46>> and she walked off.
12:48Like that's what the video show. I
12:49didn't even know I hit anybody to be 100
12:52with you until someone showed me a
12:54video.
12:54>> You didn't know you hit that girl?
12:56>> I didn't know I hit anyone.
13:00Like
13:01until I was sent a video.
13:04>> When When was When did you get sent the
13:06video?
13:07>> This morning.
13:08>> This morning?
13:09>> Yes.
13:10>> When did your car go to McLean?
13:12>> Last night.
13:13>> Why did it go to McLean?
13:14>> Because it doesn't work. It keeps
13:16cutting off.
13:17>> So you normally like store it there?
13:20>> No, I normally drive it back home, but
13:22if it's not if it's cutting off
13:25how am I going to drive it back home?
13:27>> And your home is it
13:30Yeah. So how but I'm saying like if you
13:34the car is messed up. If you call the
13:35dealership, I'm not even supposed to be
13:37driving the car.
13:38Okay. Like it got a bad engine, the
13:41transmission is slipping, it keep
13:42cutting off. How am I going to drive it
13:43home?
13:44Okay, so you're at 11th and Prosperity,
13:46car is acting up. You didn't think you
13:48were going to make it to Blair home, so
13:50you went to McLean and then left the car
13:52there. Right?
13:53How did you get Did you stay there last
13:55night then at McLean?
13:58No. Did you go back home to Blair?
14:01Yes, I got in a lift. You went Took a
14:03lift home? had to go get my kids. Yeah,
14:04I got in a lift. Where were your kids
14:07at? Why does that matter? Well, your one
14:09kid was with you, right? So you went to
14:11get Deondre? Yeah, but I'm just saying
14:13what does all this matter? Like where
14:15the kids was at, what like
14:17You're just trying to You're talking to
14:18me about you feel like I hit You said
14:21two people, right?
14:23Your car good? Yeah. Okay, well
14:25I didn't know
14:27that I hit two people.
14:29Until you
14:30And the video doesn't show it. So and
14:32when you saw the video,
14:34you believed you only hit the one girl
14:35that you saw get up and kind of limp
14:37away. She had like the green shorts on
14:39or whatever. Yeah, she And I think a
14:41black t-shirt and she was light-skinned
14:43in the video.
14:44I don't even know these people.
14:47And you were there because your friends
14:50were there and were going to fight these
14:52girls. I was there watching the fight
14:55just like a lot of other people was
14:57there. Okay. Just a lot of other people
14:59probably wouldn't didn't care that they
15:01was talking about shooting and have mace
15:03and all that.
15:04I have a child in the car. I'm just
15:06trying to get going.
15:09Which girl had the mace in her hand? Do
15:11you remember? No, I don't know. I don't
15:14remember. I know it was a It was a lot
15:16of girls out there.
15:19It was somebody in a black t-shirt. They
15:21had
15:22Matter of fact, to come to think of it,
15:23the video they sent me, the girl had on
15:25the green shorts
15:27and a black t-shirt. And there was
15:29another skinny one that had on some
15:30black shorts and a black flight things
15:33out, too.
15:34And it was two more people. And then it
15:36was a dude with them, too.
15:38With some black jeans on, a black tee,
15:41and he got
15:43dreads. Okay.
15:45>> Did they all have mace or one of them?
15:47>> No, just one of them had mace.
15:49>> Which one had the mace, do you know?
15:52>> I'm mistaken. I want to say the girl
15:54with the
15:55>> The girl with the green?
15:56>> I want to say the girl, but I'm not sure
15:57cuz at first they were just standing by
15:59the car, and then they came in the
16:01street dancing and doing all that. And
16:04they had knives and [ __ ]
16:07>> Like what kind of knives? Like kitchen
16:09knives or like folding knives?
16:11>> Kitchen knives.
16:11>> Kitchen knives.
16:13And um
16:14when you say bear spray, like what is
16:16what does that look like? Is it a
16:18>> I don't know.
16:19Bear mace.
16:20>> Were they saying we have bear mace or
16:22like you just you
16:23>> I heard them
16:25and I said, "Don't mace this way. Don't
16:26mace this way." Cuz they were coming out
16:28in the street. I guess they were finna
16:30fight in the street. So I'm like, "Don't
16:31mace this way." Cuz I'm at the corner.
16:33>> Okay.
16:34>> I guess the people they was fighting was
16:36over on that side, but they were all
16:38coming like towards the middle of the
16:40street.
16:40>> Okay.
16:42>> Oh, I'm finna leave.
16:44>> How big was the can of mace?
16:47>> Like this.
16:48>> Were they holding it in their hand or
16:50did it have like a handle on it or what?
16:51>> a handle.
16:52>> So it had like a handle?
16:53Was it like black, silver, yellow, blue,
16:56red? Any any colors on it that you
16:58remember?
16:59>> It was late. I couldn't see. I just know
17:01she was holding some mace. Shoot. Bear
17:04mace was being yelled out. They Other
17:06party talking about, "I got bear mace,
17:08too."
17:09Like
17:11I wasn't staying on the scene.
17:14Them [ __ ] talking about,
17:16"Shoot." Like I'm not I'm not staying on
17:18the scene.
17:18>> Who was talking about shooting?
17:20With the girls or the dude or
17:23>> I don't know. I'm in my car.
17:27Like I'm literally I never exited my
17:29car.
17:30I'm literally on the other side of the
17:31street finna thinking I'm finna watch a
17:33fight.
17:35>> And so
17:37So people are just yelling, "We got
17:38guns. We're going to shoot." or did you
17:41see anybody with a gun?
17:43>> No, I didn't see anyone with a gun. And
17:45people were macing and bear macing. I
17:47just told you that.
17:48But
17:49guns were mentioned.
17:52>> But I think earlier did you say there
17:53was gunshots?
17:56>> From what I heard I said I know you know
17:59they were shooting.
18:00Cuz somebody told me they were shooting.
18:03Again, I left the scene so I don't know.
18:06You said it happened somewhere else. I
18:08don't know where it happened. I left the
18:10scene.
18:11>> When you're saying somebody told you
18:12they were shooting, was it then they
18:14told you or you heard this after like
18:16later or something?
18:16>> Like on Facebook if you look at like
18:19>> Okay, so after
18:20>> It's showing you everything that's going
18:22on.
18:22>> So at the time when you were there
18:24driving your car, you did not hear
18:27people saying they were shooting. It was
18:29later
18:29>> No, they were speaking about guns but I
18:31didn't see no gun. I didn't hear no
18:32shooting. Only thing I physically seen
18:35was the girl holding the mace.
18:38Them speaking about mace, I heard. Them
18:40speaking about guns, I heard. I seen
18:41them hurting them.
18:43mace
18:44>> And they were just holding like on their
18:45side
18:46>> Yeah, and they and they was in the
18:47street dancing.
18:49Doing all types of stuff. Yelling out
18:51towards each other. Yeah.
18:53Like they were finna fight.
18:55>> Were your on the car, were your windows
18:58up, rolled down?
19:00>> My windows
19:02I had my window cracked and then I told
19:04them don't don't don't spray the mace
19:07this way. Don't spray it the mace
19:08because
19:10I had a baby in the car.
19:12>> Your window like the driver's
19:14>> said
19:15>> The driver's window was cracked.
19:16>> was the one that said that. I don't
19:17remember what party said that.
19:19>> No, no, your window though, which window
19:20did you have cracked on the car?
19:21>> My driver's side.
19:23And I rolled it back up and rolled off.
19:26>> Okay.
19:33>> I don't know what video you
19:35>> did you see the video?
19:36>> I just told you somebody sent it to me.
19:38You're asking me the same question.
19:39>> I just wanted to know if it's the same
19:40video that we saw.
19:42>> I told you obviously it's not. You said
19:44I hit two people on the video it showed
19:45one person.
19:47And I clearly explained to you what
19:49person looked like and everything.
19:51>> Mhm.
19:52>> And obviously she got up and walked off.
20:01>> You can't assume that.
20:05>> If you looked on Facebook you should
20:07know
20:08>> How long were
20:08>> everything. I don't know these girls.
20:10>> How long were you there for?
20:13>> Literally
20:15it didn't even I probably wasn't even 5
20:17minutes. 5 to 3 minutes. Once they
20:19started all like trying to I got this, I
20:22got that, we'll do this. I'm literally
20:25don't spray this way. [ __ ] I
20:27don't know which party
20:29Like I said there was a lot of girls.
20:31>> Mhm.
20:32>> Yeah, I thought you shouldn't have
20:33brought a baby to the
20:34fight. I'm like I'm not even fighting.
20:36I'm ready to go. I'm going to pull off.
20:39This thing got nothing to do with me. My
20:40baby in the car.
20:41>> So when you went there did you just kind
20:43of park your car off to the side and
20:45>> Yeah, I literally in the video you can
20:47see like I said the video shows it.
20:50You even hear them saying in the video
20:52or I don't even think she meant to hit
20:54her, the girl with the green shorts on.
20:57That I hit. You hear them saying that.
21:00Someone sent me the video today.
21:03So I me being me
21:05and I ain't been in no trouble, Let me
21:07drop my kids off
21:09and then
21:11come turn myself in. But, I didn't get
21:13that far. I literally got stopped to
21:15drop my son off.
21:17>> So, you were on your way. You were going
21:19to drop your son off and then you were
21:21going to turn yourself in. Is that what
21:22you're saying?
21:22>> Yeah, because
21:24they said I hit somebody. What like
21:26obviously it wasn't intentional. I don't
21:28even know these people.
21:32>> But, you know
21:34Adriana.
21:35And
21:37>> Why do you keep I I
21:38>> knew them.
21:40You you
21:41Come on now. You
21:42>> Well, what?
21:43>> You want me to snitch on people.
21:45>> I'm not I'm not asking you to snitch.
21:46I'm just
21:47>> That's how I feel though because you're
21:48not talking about me. You snitch on
21:49them. Ask me about them. And if you
21:52looked on Facebook, you saying you got
21:53videos. I know they just sent me a
21:54video.
21:55>> You want to see the video that we saw?
21:57>> Yeah, you can. And I just know they sent
21:59me a video. So, I know you know. I know
22:01these people. I don't know these people.
22:03>> This video right here, okay?
22:06>> There you are. Don't be scary.
22:08>> Is that the one that you got?
22:09>> Don't be scary.
22:12Why don't I have that [ __ ]
22:18Oh my soul.
22:20Look at your scary scary ass [ __ ]
22:27>> And she got on her
22:29Okay.
22:30>> I'm killing her right now.
22:31>> I don't see me hitting that other girl.
22:40>> Look right here.
22:47That's the girl's face right there.
22:49>> Oh, see I didn't see that. Like I didn't
22:51zoom in.
22:54>> right underneath the grill of your car
22:57and you drag her
22:59almost the entire block.
23:02>> That video was sent to me by my brother.
23:04I didn't see the girl. She literally had
23:06to just stop there.
23:07And I did not know that.
23:09>> That car that's on the left
23:11that they're like, you know, kind of
23:14making fun of y'all in that a little
23:15bit, the parked out to the on the left
23:17of the screen there.
23:17>> Mhm.
23:19>> So, that's a a black Nissan.
23:21Right?
23:21>> So, you know who that is, right?
23:22>> Yeah, I do.
23:23>> Okay. So, don't ask me this picture now.
23:26>> I
23:26I'm not taking You're not taking We
23:28talked to them.
23:30>> Okay.
23:31>> All that we're looking for is just the
23:33thought of relationship of how
23:35you know them and how you ended up
23:37there.
23:40>> I mean, what is that going to do for me?
23:42Like
23:43she just showed me I hit two people. I'm
23:45thinking I just hit one.
23:48Are they okay?
23:50Like, why am I here?
23:51>> Oh, she's dead.
24:03Did you ever call the police after you
24:05left there?
24:06>> No.
24:08Cuz I thought
24:09like I didn't even know I hit somebody.
24:11>> You knew you hit the one girl, right?
24:13>> No, they just sent me a video.
24:15Where's my phone? They just sent me a
24:16video this morning.
24:18>> So, when you were driving that car last
24:19night and you went to where that video
24:23was showing
24:23>> Mhm.
24:24>> you didn't know that you hit that girl.
24:28>> No.
24:30>> What did you think you hit?
24:32>> The door, a car, sideswipe them. I don't
24:35know.
24:38>> So, the girl went over your hood and you
24:40didn't see that when you were driving.
24:42That's what you're saying.
24:42>> No, I didn't see none of that. I'm
24:44trying to get up out of there. I didn't
24:46see none of that. I thought I hit the
24:48door.
24:49The car, anything. I didn't know I hit
24:51the girl.
24:53Like I did not They just sent me a
24:56video. You got my phone?
24:57>> So, you
24:57>> knew you hit the car and you didn't know
24:59you hit
25:00>> I thought I hit the car, but you're
25:01saying I hit the girl.
25:03>> Okay, what I'm just trying to say is
25:04when you were driving though, you knew
25:05you hit the car, but you didn't know you
25:07hit any people.
25:08>> No, I didn't. I'm trying to get away.
25:12You don't even see me coming from the
25:14direction
25:16the other car that they was taunting at.
25:21>> Right. You're coming north on
25:23Prosperity.
25:23>> know direction. I just
25:25>> I'm just saying.
25:27You're going away from
25:29McClain
25:31towards like
25:32>> I didn't even know where I was at.
25:35>> You know you're at
25:36How'd you get there though?
25:38Did you follow somebody there?
25:39>> Yeah, I did.
25:40>> Okay.
25:41Did they say something?
25:45Like
25:46So you went there with Abriana?
25:48>> I didn't go there with them.
25:50>> Okay. They they called you or you talked
25:52to them somehow or whatever and you
25:54followed them.
25:57Right.
25:58At any point did you guys like
26:01have a confrontation with them before
26:03this video?
26:05>> I didn't have no confrontation. I don't
26:07even know these women.
26:09I keep telling you that.
26:11Facebook will show you that. I don't
26:13know these people.
26:14I'm not friends or mutual friends. I
26:16haven't argued with none of these
26:17people. I went to watch a fight.
26:20>> Okay. So
26:22that video shows you you know you drove
26:25that intersection, right?
26:26>> Right. I wasn't even on the same side
26:28they were supposed to be fighting.
26:30>> Okay. But but this if we can agree that
26:32that intersection even though you maybe
26:33don't know where you were, that
26:34intersection is
26:35>> I I trailed them there. You can clearly
26:37see that.
26:38>> okay, if I tell you that intersection is
26:39Larimer and Prosperity.
26:41>> Okay.
26:42>> And that video shows you driving
26:46north on I'm just telling you
26:47directions.
26:47>> I'm just trying to get away. I'm at
26:50>> But when you're going here under the
26:51other street and you hit the car and
26:53then the
26:54>> the [ __ ] was I supposed to go on the
26:55other street?
26:56>> Listen, I want
26:57>> Don't you see them day car right here?
26:59There a car right here. I can't turn
27:01right there.
27:02>> explaining what I just want to know.
27:03>> I'm sorry. I'm getting frustrated. Like
27:05I'm steady telling you.
27:06>> Is that the first time you went through
27:07that intersection? First and only time
27:08you went through that intersection? Or
27:10did you get Did you drive around
27:11anywhere in that area? Where you went
27:14there, you pulled over side of road,
27:15you're going to watch the fight, and
27:17then they start talking about spraying
27:19this and that, and then did you drive
27:20away into the car and
27:22>> Right. I turned.
27:25And you got to have some more videos. I
27:27literally like my like
27:29[ __ ] right there.
27:32>> Yeah, what we're trying to understand
27:34you're you drive there.
27:35You stop on the side of road to watch
27:38this fight, correct?
27:40You stay there until this video shows
27:43you driving leave.
27:44>> Right.
27:45>> You don't drive anywhere else around the
27:47area, circle back, go through the
27:49intersection, come back around and then
27:51>> I don't. I leave.
27:52>> You go there, you pull over, you're
27:55watching the fight. Was there any fights
27:56that happened? Or was it just talking?
27:58>> It was a bunch of talking. I seen
28:00weapons. I left.
28:01>> Okay. So, that's you went there, pulled
28:04over side of road to watch it, and then
28:06you see these weapons and stuff, and
28:08then you pull off, and then that's that
28:10video, and then that happens and you
28:12leave.
28:13>> I leave. Yes.
28:15You acting like all of it clean is not
28:17that way. Well, I don't didn't know
28:19where the Wait, wait, wait. Clean where?
28:22I didn't even know where I was at.
28:24Y'all got street lights. Y'all seen me
28:26coming like back down Maryland and
28:29Johnson. I'm literally going towards
28:30like once I'm finding the street and I
28:33got to put the GPS on, I'm going towards
28:34McLean.
28:36>> And you went to McLean because you
28:38didn't think your car was going to make
28:39it to Blair.
28:39>> Correct.
28:40>> Correct.
28:44>> Didn't you see my car? And on top of
28:46that the transmission.
28:49>> What do you mean?
28:50>> Like the side like the tire, the thing
28:53the bumper is messed up.
28:56>> Front bumper or the rear bumper?
28:57>> Yeah.
28:58The front bumper.
29:01>> It was initially or after the accident?
29:05After you hit the
29:06>> After Yeah, after I Well, I thought I
29:08hit the car. Yeah, it was messed up.
29:12And then like
29:14it's already cut enough, though.
29:17You think I was going to make it to back
29:18to Blair?
29:20>> I'm
29:21I'm just trying to understand.
29:22>> So, when you think I would have rather
29:23have parked it at my house if I did
29:25something wrong than hide it on the east
29:26side where this supposedly took place
29:29at?
29:32>> I have no idea.
29:32>> My car couldn't make it.
29:34You got my car, so I mean, if you see
29:37like turn it on, you will know it don't
29:38it can't make it.
29:45>> Did When you were driving, did it feel
29:47like you were dragging anything?
29:50>> No, I heard metal, so I thought I hit
29:52the door. Like I heard like
29:55I don't know if you ever had a accident,
29:56but like I heard metal like clanking.
30:01>> Is I mean, is that normal? Does that
30:03happen in the past?
30:03>> No.
30:04>> Okay.
30:08And when you drove after you
30:11hit the car and the people and you drove
30:13on Laurel and Hardy, did you just keep
30:14driving or did you ever stop, back up,
30:17turn or anything like that?
30:19>> My car turned off. I don't know what
30:21where I was at. Like I said, my car
30:23turned off.
30:24And then I literally sitting there, and
30:27then it finally cut on, but the GPS and
30:29then I
30:30went to McLean.
30:31>> Where did it cut off at?
30:33>> I don't know where I was at. That's what
30:35I was saying.
30:36>> About how far were you from
30:38>> the scene?
30:38>> The scene, yeah.
30:41>> Like 2 3
30:44>> Okay.
30:44>> So, did you make some turns left and
30:46right and stuff like that?
30:47>> No.
30:48Then I make a turn I kept straight down
30:50it looked like a narrow road, like a
30:53winding road.
30:54>> So, if you keep going So, if you keep
30:56going straight on that road, do you know
30:57where Lake Fallon is?
30:59>> I didn't come out by no Lake Fallon. I
31:01didn't see no lake.
31:02>> Okay, let me stop.
31:02>> But, I might have cuz I did see somebody
31:06jogging and it was like a spot right
31:08here a turning lane over here
31:11and some right here and some right here.
31:13>> Okay. So, that that road that you were
31:15on, if you keep going straight on that
31:16road, it'll drive right into Lake
31:18Fallon. You have to turn left or right.
31:21>> I turned left.
31:23>> There's a stop sign.
31:24>> No, I didn't hit no stop sign. That's
31:26what I'm telling you. It just went I
31:28went down like a narrow like Okay, so
31:29coming to this part that that that I
31:31traveled into, it's like narrow. You
31:33know that, right? Like it It's probably
31:35like two stop signs, but it's like dark
31:37winding road.
31:39And when I turned that way, it was like
31:41a dark winding road.
31:43And then when I got like I'd say 2
31:46minutes away,
31:47the car cut off on me.
31:53>> Mhm.
31:55>> And no, I wasn't getting out none of
31:57none of that.
31:58I was scared. I'm not Like no, I got my
32:01baby in the car. No, I wasn't getting
32:03out.
32:03>> When it cut off, what did
32:04>> I just sat in the car.
32:08>> What did the person in the car with you
32:09say after you you hit the car and people
32:12and stuff like that?
32:17>> Nothing.
32:19>> They didn't say nothing?
32:20>> No, they said, "Bitch, you just [ __ ]
32:21up your car trying to come help somebody
32:23or just look at somebody fight."
32:26That's it.
32:28>> Where did that person go? Did they stay
32:30with you or did they stay in McLean? Did
32:31they get out somewhere else? Did you
32:33drop them off?
32:41>> Do you want us to talk to that person?
32:44>> Why?
32:45I mean, if y'all talk to them on y'all
32:47own time, I'm not mentioning that
32:48person.
32:50>> This person was in the car that you were
32:51driving
32:53that ran somebody over and killed them.
32:57We don't know who that person is.
33:00Do you want us to talk to that person
33:01who might be able to
33:03you know
33:04tell us exactly what you're telling us?
33:09>> Why would I have to lie to you? Other
33:11people just said they didn't know me.
33:14I
33:15>> I could have said someone Listen.
33:16>> Actually, it doesn't matter if you're
33:17lying or not.
33:20>> I could have, but you're asking
33:21questions like it matter. What matters?
33:23Because honestly, I could have came in
33:25here and lied to you. I obviously I'm
33:26not.
33:28My car windows is tinted.
33:30I could have clearly told you it was
33:31somebody else driving my car.
33:35You know what I'm saying? But I'm I'm
33:37sitting here telling you the truth.
33:39I But you're steadily asking me about
33:42other people that I don't want to put in
33:43the thing that I know for a fact if I
33:45could go look on Facebook
33:48>> Cuz that girl was
33:49sitting next to you in the car that you
33:51were driving.
33:52>> Like you said, it doesn't matter. Just
33:53like you said it didn't matter if I knew
33:56whoever, but now you turn around and
33:57saying it don't, but you keep asking me
33:59about it. So, why does it matter?
34:01>> That girl is
34:03>> Just know they had weapons and I needed
34:05to get away. I had a baby in the car.
34:07That's what the bottom line boils down
34:09to it. Did I know I hit them girls until
34:12this morning? No. And from what I was
34:14told and looked at the video, I only
34:16seen one girl.
34:19Did I know anyone was dead? No.
34:25>> Okay.
34:26>> If the situation presented itself again
34:29and I had to drive off and it's me,
34:31them, or my baby, it's going to be my
34:33baby every time.
34:35I shouldn't even pulled up to watch a
34:37fight. I wouldn't be in this [ __ ]
34:39predicament.
34:40>> Why wouldn't you when you leave, get
34:42somewhere safe, you drive away?
34:44You take your phone out and call Do you
34:46have a phone with you, right?
34:47>> I didn't know till this morning. They
34:48kept calling me.
34:49>> But my point is is this. You had a phone
34:51with you, yes?
34:52>> Yeah.
34:54>> You called
34:54>> going to do it today.
34:56>> over there. These people had weapons,
34:58they threatened me, this and that.
35:00>> I think I would be a snitch.
35:02>> Snitch?
35:03>> Till today, I didn't even know no one
35:05was hurt.
35:06>> Be a snitch on yourself to save your own
35:08>> you mean snitch on myself? Till this
35:09morning, till today, I didn't know no
35:11one was hurt. So, for me to call the
35:13police
35:14They would have been like, damn, you
35:16came to watch a fight, you're calling
35:18the police on us?
35:20Cuz they
35:21all this didn't happen. And I really
35:23didn't hit a car and I called the police
35:24like, I don't know what's going on.
35:25These people are threatening me.
35:27I think I hit their car trying to get
35:29away. So, now I'm just volunteering
35:31information to the police. Now I'm
35:33telling on somebody else.
35:35>> It's a car accident, right? At minimum.
35:39>> Then I'm telling like what? I'm still
35:41I'm involving other parties.
35:43>> You're involved in hitting
35:44>> Knowing that some [ __ ] just happened
35:47earlier with them same parties.
35:50Where shots was fired. You know what I'm
35:52saying? So, then I would be telling.
35:55>> So, you didn't know that? You said you
35:56didn't know that.
35:58>> I said I would I don't know what
35:59location it was at.
36:01>> But you didn't know that until later in
36:03the night or this morning. I mean, let
36:05me finish. So, at the time, you didn't
36:07know that, right?
36:11>> You can't catch me up.
36:13>> I'm not trying to catch you up. I'm
36:14trying to
36:14>> You're asking me the same questions. I
36:16just told you. Do you have a recorder
36:18out?
36:18>> Absolutely.
36:19>> Okay, good.
36:22>> That's what you told us. I'm not trying
36:23to twist your words.
36:24>> No, that's not what I told you.
36:28>> You told us that you didn't know
36:29anything about any shots fired until
36:31later.
36:32>> told you was I didn't see nobody with no
36:33gun that was speaking on the gun.
36:36And that you know that
36:40shots was fired. And you said, "Well,
36:41was it fired at that scene?" I said, "I
36:43don't know."
36:45I pulled off and left. Those was my
36:46exact words.
36:49>> Do you know what hit-and-run
36:50is? Do you know hit-and-run is a crime?
36:53>> Yes, I know.
36:54>> were involved in a crime.
36:56>> So, even if it was a car and I'm
36:57thinking I hit a car,
37:00>> when you don't call the police and
37:01report it, then it becomes what?
37:07A hit-and-run.
37:11>> Even if I would have hit their car.
37:14>> You did hit the car. You knew you hit
37:15the car.
37:16>> Right. But, what I'm saying if no if
37:18this other stuff wasn't involved,
37:21>> that's still a crime, yes. If somebody
37:23doesn't die, somebody doesn't get hit,
37:25but you hit a car and you leave, and
37:27don't report it, yes, that's a
37:28hit-and-run crime.
37:29>> Okay.
37:36>> Who's the girl that was with you in the
37:37car?
37:38Was it a girl? I don't even know. Was it
37:40a girl or boy?
37:42You don't want us to talk to that
37:43person.
37:46>> Ashley, right now we got a handful of
37:48people saying one thing and then just
37:49you saying one thing.
37:51>> They you don't have a handful of people
37:52saying anything about me.
37:55>> Well, we do.
37:55>> They just told me today y'all have my
37:57car.
37:58You don't have a handful of people
37:59saying anything about me because, like I
38:01said, I don't know them people, so I
38:04know you're lying. You don't have a
38:06handful of people saying I did anything.
38:09>> What I'm saying is we have a handful of
38:11people a handful of people at the scene
38:13that saw you mow down these two girls,
38:15okay?
38:16And you're saying that you were just
38:17trying to get away because they were
38:19threatening you with weapons. But,
38:20you're the only person who
38:22saw them
38:22>> Then they but I was there and I didn't
38:24feel comfortable cuz I had a baby in the
38:26car.
38:27>> You're the only one saying that. Now, if
38:29there is a witness that can back up your
38:31statement, that will help you out.
38:34Cuz right now, we just have the
38:36witnesses on scene
38:37seeing you hit them and leave.
38:41But it's a whole 'nother story if
38:43somebody else that was with you can say,
38:45"Yes, they had these weapons."
38:47>> ask Abriana since you know I know her
38:48now?
38:50>> Abriana told us nothing about
38:54>> She said she did not know me.
38:56>> Right.
38:57>> I know exactly what was said. I know
38:59exactly you just said it.
39:01>> You just said it.
39:02>> And she don't she don't know she won't
39:04tell us who you were and she won't tell
39:05us who anybody else in the car was.
39:08You're telling us somebody else in the
39:09car.
39:10We're asking you who that person is.
39:13This person
39:14>> even matter.
39:16>> Okay, if that's where you want to go
39:17with it, does matter.
39:20But if you want to stick with this that
39:22it doesn't, that's your choice. We can't
39:24force you to tell us.
39:25>> Okay.
39:26>> It's just like they just explained. We
39:28just want to talk to that person. That's
39:29it.
39:29>> Talk to everybody.
39:31>> That's we want to
39:32>> Then talk to everybody.
39:33>> But what is that person's name?
39:36>> Everybody that you already questioned,
39:37talk to them. Okay? We got actually now
39:40What's what really happened?
39:41>> You you
39:42>> Talk to the other parties. You The girl
39:43that even got hit with the
39:45that I thought I just hit and she got
39:47up. Talk to her.
39:48>> [snorts]
39:48>> Do you know her? I guarantee she going
39:50to say she don't even know me.
39:52These girls don't even know me. I ain't
39:54even fought with them, beefed with them,
39:56or nothing. Why would I just hit
39:57somebody?
39:59SO, ASK THEM.
40:01>> WE WE talked to
40:01>> Ask the people that y'all claim that I
40:03hurt and hit and all of that. I
40:05guarantee you they're going to tell
40:06y'all they don't even know me.
40:08What what reason would I have to harm
40:09them? They don't know me. They weren't
40:11arguing with me. They weren't beefing
40:12with me.
40:13>> Who were they BEEFING WITH?
40:15>> YOU KNOW WHO THEY were beefing with.
40:17>> Who are they? Their friends. [snorts]
40:19>> It doesn't matter and they're not
40:21friends.
40:22>> Well, how do you know THEM THEN?
40:23>> THAT DOESN'T MATTER. Didn't you say that
40:25doesn't matter? So, stop playing games.
40:27Does it matter or does it doesn't? YOU
40:29JUST SAID YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP but
40:30really it seem like you're trying to
40:32incriminate me. I'm telling you I don't
40:34know these people.
40:35>> We're not trying to incriminate you.
40:36We're trying to get the truth.
40:37>> The truth is what I told you. I don't
40:39know these people. You just
40:42But you know
40:42>> these people that are beefing with and
40:44that's why you were there.
40:46Right?
40:46>> Obviously, they're not fighting with
40:47theirself, right?
40:48>> Yeah.
40:50So, you just said a couple minutes ago,
40:52I shouldn't have even went there.
40:53>> I shouldn't have. I shouldn't have
40:54watched [ __ ]
40:55>> You said I shouldn't have went there and
40:57even helped them.
40:58>> No, I said I shouldn't have even went
41:00there.
41:01>> To help them and then you said, "I mean
41:03watch the fight."
41:04>> That's not what I said. You asked me who
41:05was in the car and what did she say when
41:07you thought she hit the door? That's
41:09when that came up and I said she said,
41:11"Oh, I shouldn't have even went there to
41:13help them or watch the fight." That's
41:15how that went. I never told you out my
41:17mouth I shouldn't have went there and
41:19none of that. I said
41:20>> they shouldn't have done that?
41:21>> You asked me that. You said, "What did
41:23she say? What what what did that person
41:25say?"
41:26>> Who's that person?
41:28>> Anyways, if you could um you say you
41:31want to help. You say y'all want to ask
41:33these people. Y'all got a lot of
41:34different stories. Why don't y'all ask
41:36the people the lady that got hit?
41:39Do y'all know Do y'all know her?
41:41Do y'all know her? Have y'all seen her?
41:43>> Have we talked to her first?
41:44>> So, she should So, you should know I
41:46don't even know these people.
41:47>> We want to talk to everyone.
41:49>> Like [snorts] what reason would I have
41:51to harm this person?
41:53They're not even talking to me.
41:56>> We want to talk to everyone that was
41:58there and
41:58>> Like it's not making sense.
42:01That's just like me saying I want to
42:02harm you and I don't even know you. You
42:04haven't done anything to me. That
42:06doesn't make sense to me.
42:09Just like if I pull a knife out which I
42:10don't have, you're going to take
42:12precautions to protect yourself, right?
42:14Y'all came with guns.
42:17I didn't I I I was I was very confused
42:20what the [ __ ] was going on.
42:23My baby was in the car.
42:27But y'all did that what? To protect
42:29yourselves. Y'all didn't know what what
42:30what what what y'all was dealing with or
42:32anything, right?
42:34The [ __ ] out of here. Like I'm just
42:36What? I don't even know these females.
42:41And then you're saying you acting
42:42everybody. You're not acting everybody
42:44cuz the lady that got hit can tell you.
42:46Show her picture of me. Show them Take
42:48me to a lineup. I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT
42:50LADY.
42:50>> They already talked TO THEM.
42:52>> RIGHT. SO WHY ARE YOU SITTING here
42:53saying I'm like I got a reason to hit
42:55somebody. Like I Like everybody telling
42:57y'all like that I DIDN'T JUST DRIVE OFF
43:00TRYING TO DEFEND MYSELF or just leave
43:02the scene. Like why is everybody Like
43:04What do you mean everybody telling you
43:06like
43:06>> We never said that. She said you knew
43:10each other.
43:10>> Right. I don't know her. So what reason
43:12would I have to harm them?
43:15>> [snorts]
43:16>> OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL DID SOMETHING TO make me
43:18fear for my life and my baby life and I
43:20pulled the [ __ ] off.
43:22>> [snorts]
43:22>> WHICH I SHOULDN'T HAVE NEVER WENT THERE
43:24IN the first place. I wouldn't even be
43:25in this predicament.
43:28>> [snorts]
43:29>> The [ __ ] is not even my beef. None of
43:31that.
43:32But I'm the one in here getting
43:34questioned.
43:35>> Because you're the one who ran over
43:37somebody
43:38and killed them.
43:39>> And I didn't try to. I didn't even know.
43:42I thought I hit a [ __ ] car.
43:44Yes, I should have said something even
43:46if I did a hit-and-run, but I wasn't
43:48going to.
43:49I got kids to live for.
43:51>> Okay. Who's the girl in the car with you
43:53so we can talk to her? She's the only
43:54person pretty much that we know of that
43:57we haven't talked to. You want us to
43:58talk to everybody.
44:00You know who this person is, but you
44:01won't tell us.
44:03>> Cuz y'all got the main people y'all need
44:04to talk to.
44:06>> She said that.
44:07>> to It doesn't matter if she's in THE
44:08CAR. THAT'S SOMEBODY ELSE.
44:10>> MATTER.
44:12>> ASHLEY, can I tell you what it looks
44:13like on our end?
44:15And I'll be completely honest with you.
44:18>> [snorts]
44:18>> Well, what now? I thought for the
44:19lawyers to make out things otherwise and
44:22the prosecutor to make out things
44:23otherwise. That's it. That's all. That's
44:25what it boiled down to.
44:27>> This is why we want to talk to the
44:29passenger. Because right now, it looks
44:31like you hit them, you knew you hit
44:33them, and then you drove off, you
44:35dragged her for an entire block,
44:37completely sliced her open, and then you
44:39left.
44:39>> I drag this woman for a whole block?
44:42>> She was under your car.
44:43>> She was under your car.
44:44>> When When you just showed me a camera
44:46thing like she was just right there.
44:49>> Ashley,
44:51her skin,
44:53her muscle,
44:54her blood
44:56were on the road for an entire block.
45:02So, when we see that, and then we see
45:04people saying, "Oh, yep, she hit and
45:07then she fled."
45:08We think,
45:10"Well, obviously you knew you hit
45:11somebody."
45:12But if you're saying you don't, and you
45:13got somebody that can back you up on
45:15that, we're trying to follow that lead.
45:18We're not here to jam you up. We're here
45:20to talk to you. If you give us the name
45:22of the passenger, we'll find them, we'll
45:24talk to them, we'll get their statement.
45:27If they say something that can help you
45:28out, great. That only helps your cause.
45:38>> You said yourself you wanted us to talk
45:39to everybody that was there, right?
45:42Was this girl there?
45:45She's in your car. She was there. She
45:47was right next to you.
45:59We don't know who she is. You're the one
46:00who does.
46:01So, if you want us to talk to her, you
46:03need to tell us
46:04who she is.
46:13>> How did she die?
46:16>> From all the trauma caused from being
46:18dragged on under the car.
46:20>> Like from being hit?
46:23>> It's all the multiple injuries from
46:25being hit and dragged under your car.
46:31>> You didn't know for a fact I had her.
46:35>> We know that, yes. You were driving that
46:38car, correct?
46:40It's your car.
46:42You hit the other person's car
46:45and the two girls.
46:47The one girl
46:48fell off the car right away.
46:50The other girl
46:51did not.
46:59We need to talk to that girl you were
47:00with.
47:02You're not snitching on her. She's a
47:04witness. That's all it is.
47:05>> put in no more people in nothing.
47:07>> Huh?
47:08>> I don't put in no more people in
47:10nothing.
47:11>> She's already put in the work.
47:14>> It is what it is for me. At least my
47:16kids good. That's all I care about.
47:21That's exactly what I care about. All I
47:22care about. My kids okay.
47:26And they with my cousin.
47:31I know I didn't mean to do it. My lawyer
47:32could fight for me. I didn't mean to do
47:34this. I don't even know these people.
47:37>> We're not saying you did.
47:43No text talk.
47:50No text talk.
47:51>> Do you want to give us your passcode to
47:52your phone?
47:55>> [snorts]
47:56>> We're keeping your phone, so we'll do a
47:58forensic
48:00and we'll analyze your phone
48:02forensically, it's called.
48:04So,
48:06if there's something on there,
48:08we
48:09download it basically. We have your
48:11passcode,
48:12and we can figure out
48:15what happened, the truth, and everything
48:17a lot quicker.
48:19We'll give your phone back to you or
48:20your family or
48:21>> Yeah, I don't know if that's all for my
48:22lawyer at this point because y'all are
48:24like I'm still going to jail regardless
48:27for something that I didn't even
48:28[clears throat]
48:31>> That's fine. But but for the passcode,
48:33do you not want to You don't want the
48:34phone. You don't want to give us the
48:35passcode?
48:35>> with my lawyer.
48:36>> [snorts]
48:37>> That's fine. You can have your lawyer
48:39get in touch with us.
48:40Do we I don't even know if we ever had
48:42your phone number.
48:45What's your phone number?
48:48For your phone. So, you live at We're
48:49just wanting to know what demographics
48:50are.
48:57In St. Paul, that's where you live. Um
48:59what's your phone number
49:01for your phone?
49:03>> I don't know it by heart.
49:04>> You don't know it by heart?
49:06Okay.
49:07>> I just had to change my number when I
49:08had went through a domestic.
49:11>> Okay. Can you spell the
49:142-month-old baby's information?
49:17>> Why y'all trying to take her from my
49:18cousin?
49:19>> No, just so we can document that the the
49:21the kid was in your car when this
49:23happened, that's all.
49:24>> Is that it? For real?
49:25>> Yeah, that's it for real. We just That's
49:27part of what we have to do. We document
49:29people that were
49:30>> Where is the DA going to come now
49:32because of all this [ __ ]
49:36>> I have no idea about any of that. We
49:37just simply we need to document if your
49:39dad was in there, your friend, your mom,
49:42your sister, your brother, whatever, it
49:43would be the same. We just document
49:45who's in that car. What's the baby's
49:47name again?
50:06>> No, what's his last name?
50:08>> He
50:08>> Is it Couch last name?
50:10>> No, I just gave you her last name.
50:11>> Oh, that's her. Does she have a middle
50:12name?
50:14>> No.
50:15>> What's her That's a female, right?
50:17What's What's her birthday?
50:19>> 6 6 2014
50:22>> 6 6 2014
50:25So, that's
50:27the only child
50:28that was in the car.
50:31She's not in the car with you.
50:33Just
50:36And then
50:37she's female.
50:39Do you want to tell us who she is yet?
50:43You want to talk to your lawyer and have
50:44your lawyer reach out to us.
50:45>> I said today at birth.
50:48>> Amaya was A M Y I H.
50:51>> Yeah.
50:52>> And then Phillips.
50:55Right?
50:56Okay.
50:59Did you say
51:02baby's staying with your mom?
51:06Right?
51:08Well, is there anybody you want us to
51:10contact that is with the baby?
51:12That's my question.
51:16>> No.
51:17>> No.
51:19Okay.
51:20Do you want me to contact Kion?
51:24>> Well, wait.
51:25>> I told P yesterday I talked to him after
51:28I talked to you.
51:29>> Yeah, he don't need to contact him. I
51:31mean, [ __ ]
51:34I think he knows what's going on. She
51:35had his sister want to send me the
51:37video, like I said this morning.
51:39>> Kion's sister sent you the video?
51:44Well, yeah, he told me he watched the
51:45video, too.
51:47>> Yeah, that's why I said I didn't know no
51:49like I only seen the girl in the green
51:52but
51:53clearly yeah.
52:01>> Well, so from here you are getting
52:03booked into the Ramsey County Jail.
52:06>> Okay.
52:07And what am I being charged with?
52:10criminal
52:10>> Take care. I'm sorry.
52:16>> But why would you charge me with that
52:18like that was on purpose intentional?
52:21>> So
52:22that's the appropriate charge for an
52:24incident like this. Whether you get
52:26charged with it or not, it goes to
52:27Ramsey County's
52:29attorney's office and they review
52:31everything and then they make the
52:32decision if they're going to formally
52:34charge you with that or something
52:36different or nothing at all. [snorts]
52:41>> So even if it was like accident, this is
52:45what I got to get charged with?
52:47>> Right now that's yes. You're getting
52:49booked in [snorts] with that. And like I
52:50said then that review process happens
52:52and then they make a determination.
52:58>> Oh, will they review it?
53:00>> When?
53:01In the morning.
53:09>> And even though this was not
53:11intentional, I just still got to get
53:12away be away from my kids and just my
53:15family.
53:16>> I mean that's where we're at. I mean
53:17like so you said you wanted a lawyer so
53:19we're not going to ask you any more
53:20questions but that's that's where it's
53:22at yeah.
53:26>> And that happens to everybody not just
53:27me if it's unintentional?
53:30>> [snorts]
53:31>> In a situation like this somebody else
53:33yeah, same thing they'd be booked for
53:35that charge yes.
53:40>> Right.
53:41>> Okay. So we're going to have a
53:43squad coming.
53:44>> Yeah, I got to go verify.
53:46I think it might be after a while.
53:48>> Okay.
53:49>> It's a transport.
53:50>> I'll go and check those first.
53:51>> Or
53:52CSO can have a look at this.
53:57You just leave it.
53:58It's going to be in here though.
54:01You just leave
54:02>> So, if y'all keeping my phone, how can I
54:04get numbers out my phone?
54:06>> Um you need to get What numbers do you
54:08want out of your phone?
54:11>> Keon, my mom, my cousin.
54:15>> Okay.
54:16Uh
54:18don't even know where your phone is
54:19right now. Somebody Well, actually I
54:22think the officers
54:23>> And my phone
54:23>> it back here already first.
54:25Um
54:27we can get your numbers out of there if
54:29you need.
54:31Do you want us to go over your phone to
54:32get that?
54:34>> They're not going to give it to me at
54:36the jail, huh?
54:37>> No. Well, they're not even having phone
54:39down there. It's going to stay here with
54:40us.
54:43We can We can get the phone.
54:46Then
54:47um
54:48we can go into it and get those numbers
54:49that you want to get.
54:55Seems the phone is really dead.
54:59>> My purse staying down here, too?
55:02>> Your purse?
55:05Um
55:05>> Even my wallet with my kids' social
55:07security cards, my social security card,
55:10my state ID.
55:13>> That will probably go down to the jail
55:15with you eventually.
55:18Looks like your phone might be dead.
55:24Yeah, it's dead.
55:25>> Okay, [snorts] don't worry about getting
55:26the phone, but
55:28I need to call Keon and your mom and
55:29them.
55:34>> What was it? Dead? Or did you know
55:36battery and low and you had it before?
55:39>> I was.
55:40>> It's okay. My phone was turned off. I
55:41don't remember it.
55:50>> Uh actually this is mine and then
55:52No, Johnny's going to
55:55I don't think it is mine.
56:08>> Hold on. You got me you got me?
56:09>> Just log in so she can get in there.
56:12>> I don't know if I'll be able to take my
56:13wallet with my baby's social security
56:16cards, medical cards, my ID, and stuff.
56:18>> Yeah, but you know, we're not going to
56:19keep that stuff, right?
56:20>> I'm going to go through this. We're not
56:22going to
56:23>> Yeah.
56:25>> Then I have to have this thing done.
56:29>> Right.
56:36>> All right.
56:37Ashley
56:39>> Yeah.
56:39>> My name is also Ashley. I'm going to put
56:42my card in your purse, okay? So, if you
56:44get to jail
56:46you want to talk about something?
56:49Just want to let you know, okay?
56:55>> You want to talk to this girl you're
56:57with?
56:58Maybe she you know, say like hey, at
56:59least want to talk to you. If you want
57:00to talk to him, call him.
57:03You know.
57:06Never call him.
57:07He's our partner.
57:13Our partner can probably only help you
57:15with getting home.
57:17>> I don't know if I'll be coming to
57:18Charlotte with my baby.
57:26I don't think I'll be coming to
57:27Charlotte
57:28to test the baby for you.
57:33>> You got some weed in this purse or
57:35something? I mean, it smells like I
57:37mean, this I don't think you can you
57:38can't bring it into jail.
57:39>> Well, he said he had his own weed.
57:41>> He had his own weed?
57:43So, it was in the purse or
57:45>> No, it's not in the purse. I looked to
57:47make sure he didn't put it back in there
57:48when he got it. He took his weed out.
57:51>> It just smells like a little bit of
57:52>> Yeah, cuz I was holding it for him.
58:00So, will I have a bail?
58:03>> Well, not yet.
58:05Um
58:07That gets set um
58:10after the county attorney reviews it. I
58:13mean, so right now you you don't you
58:15don't have a bail until
58:17um
58:19there's a uh
58:20the the case is reviewed and it's set.
58:23So, if if you get charged, then then
58:25that's when bail gets set.
58:26>> Will he see y'all?
58:28>> Yes, yes. Probably [snorts] cuz of
58:30>> So, I probably should have just kept my
58:31mouth shut, but I was trying to be
58:33honest.
58:35>> Well, being honest is
58:36the best that I can do.
58:37>> But, is it going to really help me?
58:39Everyone told me I shouldn't even when I
58:40came to talk to y'all and turned myself
58:43in that I shouldn't have said nothing
58:44without a lawyer.
58:46>> I don't I don't know. I mean, I I
58:48I can't
58:49>> You just made a report.
58:51>> Yeah, I can't tell I can't tell you what
58:53the best you know, what you should or
58:55shouldn't do or you know, whatever. I
58:56mean, that's
58:58each person needs needs to make their
58:59own decision
59:00ultimately, you know.
59:02>> But, this is my life if
59:04>> Yeah.
59:05I understand.
59:06I get it. I understand.
59:25So, we're just waiting for the squad.
59:27They just
59:27They're just coming on their shift.
59:28They're just getting their computer
59:30logged in.
59:32They'll come here, so they'll have to
59:33handcuff you, and then they'll transfer
59:36you in the back of their squad car to
59:37the jail, and then you'll be booked in.
59:41>> And then I got to wait like two days for
59:43them to you get like
59:46>> Yeah, I mean, it'll be at least So,
59:47today's Thursday, tomorrow's Friday.
59:50>> Or Monday.
59:50>> It
59:51It's possibly either maybe tomorrow or
59:54maybe Monday. Possibly yes. Um
59:57It kind of
59:59We'll have to see though, you know.
1:00:09>> Do people even get bills with this
1:00:11charge?
1:00:13>> Yeah, I think there's probably going to
1:00:15be a bill. I mean, again, it it's that's
1:00:18not a any decision that we make. That's
1:00:21the judge.
1:00:22Um which
1:00:25Like, okay, so say this is what happens.
1:00:27You get charged tomorrow.
1:00:29You probably
1:00:31You might see the judge late morning,
1:00:34afternoon, something like that. Or say
1:00:37it gets uh
1:00:38held over the weekend, then you see the
1:00:39judge Monday morning, and then that's
1:00:42when the judge would make a bail.
1:00:45You know, that's how they set a bail.
1:00:48Just
1:00:55>> Is there a reason why y'all came like
1:00:57that? Besides trying to protect
1:00:59yourselves or whatever the case may be.
1:01:02>> Came what When When we arrested you at
1:01:04the
1:01:05at the left or right?
1:01:05>> When y'all could have just came to my
1:01:07house and knocked on the door.
1:01:10>> Yeah, I mean, we just We have our We
1:01:12have our reasons to do things the way we
1:01:14do, I guess. Yeah.
1:01:16>> But I was there all day yesterday and
1:01:17there this morning.
1:01:19>> Well, not all day yesterday. This thing
1:01:22This happened at
1:01:22>> Yeah, but I'm saying like last night I
1:01:25was there.
1:01:27>> Well, we didn't we didn't know.
1:01:28>> This morning I was there.
1:01:31>> We just we didn't know.
1:01:37Okay, so the officer is going to
1:01:39>> Handcuff.
1:01:40>> Yes.
1:01:41If you can step
1:01:44Your name is Ashley.
1:01:46Possible everything.
1:01:47Ashley, you understand you're under
1:01:48arrest?
1:02:16Last movement you do with those
1:02:17handcuffs on will be better.
1:02:19You want to
1:02:20>> Search your purse?
1:02:21>> I'll search your bag then.
1:02:22>> All right. I have a problem
1:02:24>> He's a he's We search all the time. So,
1:02:26we'll check things.
1:02:39You got to go this way.
1:02:40>> Oh, [ __ ]
1:02:42>> Take the walk or take a ride.
1:02:44>> Uh
1:02:45Do you want
1:02:47secondary murder as well or not?
1:02:49>> Following the interrogation, Ashley
1:02:51Couch was charged with second-degree
1:02:53intentional murder and second-degree
1:02:55assault in connection with the death
1:02:56[music] of Zakira Ziggy Anderson and the
1:02:59injuries suffered by Aleah Joseph.
1:03:02Couch initially [music] pleaded not
1:03:03guilty, but on January 10th, 2025, she
1:03:06changed her plea and admitted guilt to
1:03:09second-degree unintentional murder and
1:03:11second-degree assault [music] with a
1:03:12dangerous weapon.
1:03:14On March 24th, 2025, she was sentenced
1:03:17to 243 months in prison, just over 20
1:03:21years, with credit [music] for the time
1:03:23she had already served.
1:03:25The case was not Couch's first serious
1:03:27encounter with the criminal justice
1:03:28system. [music]
1:03:30In 2011, after throwing her infant into
1:03:32a Minneapolis snowbank during an
1:03:33altercation, [music]
1:03:35Couch pleaded guilty to child
1:03:36endangerment and neglect. She received a
1:03:39365-day
1:03:40workhouse sentence
1:03:41>> [music]
1:03:42>> with 90 days to serve and the remaining
1:03:44275 days suspended while she completed 2
1:03:48years of supervised probation.
1:03:50After violating that probation later
1:03:52[music] that year, she was ordered to
1:03:54serve an additional 60 days.
1:03:56Her prior record also included [music]
1:03:58convictions involving a drive-by
1:04:00shooting, assault with a dangerous
1:04:02weapon, terroristic threats, and theft.
1:04:05Couch is currently serving [music] her
1:04:07sentence at the Minnesota Correctional
1:04:09Facility in Shakopee.
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