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0:00[snorts]
0:01I can tell it's really really weighing
0:03you down.
0:05Really weighing you down. Deep in your
0:07soul, isn't it?
0:12>> On the morning of November 22nd, 2023,
0:16deputies with the Tarant County
0:17Sheriff's Office responded to a home in
0:19the 3,900 block of Jolene [music] Court
0:22in Rendon, Texas. Inside, they found
0:2560-year-old Sheri Lynn Bailey and
0:27[music] her 84year-old mother, Bertha
0:29Bailey, both dead from multiple gunshot
0:32wounds. As [music] investigators worked
0:34the scene and began speaking with family
0:36members, attention quickly turned to
0:38Sherry's 25-year-old daughter, [music]
0:40Caitlyn Marie Bailey. Authorities issued
0:43alerts identifying her as armed and
0:45dangerous and said she was believed to
0:46be driving [music] a black 2007 Ford
0:49Fusion. For the next two days, law
0:52enforcement agencies across North Texas
0:54[music] searched for her. On November
0:5624th, Bailey was located and taken into
0:58custody. [music] With her mother and
1:00grandmother dead, investigators now
1:03needed to determine exactly what had
1:04happened inside [music] the home, what
1:06led up to the shootings, and what Bailey
1:09could tell them about the events
1:10surrounding their deaths. [music]
1:12Now, investigators sit down with Caitlyn
1:14Bailey to hear her account of what
1:16happened. [music] This is the
1:17interrogation of Caitlyn Bailey.
1:29I can't feel my hand.
1:30>> You can't feel your hand?
1:31>> No, my whole hand is enough.
1:34>> Okay. Uh
1:35>> it's hurting.
1:36>> Okay.
1:36>> My whole hand is numb.
1:38>> Let me get a hand. We'll take care of
1:39it. Okay.
1:42>> You remember me from yesterday? Travis,
1:45the one to you later.
1:47>> No, he's out. Okay. Thanks.
1:50>> Can you just take off the right one,
1:52please?
1:53>> Yeah. Hey, you want to take them off?
1:54We'll put them in the front if that will
1:55work for you.
1:57>> Can you bend over? There we go. Makes it
2:00easier for me to see.
2:09See? Do you need a
2:13good problem?
2:26Uh, so I met you yesterday, but I'm
2:29going to go ahead and introduce myself
2:30again. My name's Travis Don with the
2:32Texas Rangers.
2:34>> I'm Carol Morris and I'm with the T
2:35County Sheriff's Department.
2:37>> So, um, I told you the other day you got
2:40some warrants and then we talk about it
2:41later. Okay. And then I got kind of busy
2:43last night and I was trying to take care
2:44of your dog, make sure all that kind of
2:46stuff was taken care of.
2:47>> Hey, what happened to my dog? Is she
2:49okay?
2:49>> Yeah, she's good. So, Bobby said he was
2:51going to take care of your dog. Okay.
2:54Um, I think he even went got some food
2:56that night. He said something about some
2:58milk that he got. I don't know if the
2:59dog likes milk, but he said he was going
3:01to take care of your dog for you.
3:04>> Okay.
3:06So, uh, what's the dog's name?
3:08>> Baby Monster.
3:09>> Baby Monster.
3:10>> Yeah.
3:11>> Okay.
3:12Um,
3:13>> well, I didn't see the dogs. What kind
3:14of dog is it? A Chihuahua. Oh. Oh, a
3:17bone search. Chihuahua.
3:18>> Yeah, a little bitty one. Um, so we're
3:21we're in a a police building, right? And
3:23obviously you're under arrest. So, I
3:25have to read you some stuff. Okay. You
3:28have the right to remain silent, not
3:29make any statement at all. Any statement
3:30you make may be used against you in your
3:32trial. Any statement you make may be
3:33used evidence against you in court. You
3:35have the right to have a lawyer present
3:36to advise you prior to or during any
3:38questioning by peace officers or
3:39attorneys representing the state. If
3:41you're unable to employ a lawyer, you
3:43can have one appointed to you free of
3:45charge. Uh and you have the right to
3:47terminate this interview at any time. Do
3:48you understand all that?
3:49>> Yes, I do.
3:51>> So, um so yeah. So, Bobby's got the dog
3:55out there. Um
3:57>> is there any way I can contact Bobby?
3:59Does he have a number? Does he know I'm
4:01here?
4:01>> Uh he knows you're here cuz I talked to
4:03him that night. I talked to him uh for a
4:05pretty good while. Uh he came back
4:07shortly after you left.
4:09>> What did he say?
4:11>> He just said that um that he was trying
4:14to help you out and he felt like that
4:16you had talked to him for a while and
4:18said that we kind of have a troubled
4:19past and he was trying to help you. Um
4:24I mean that's really basically the gist
4:26of it.
4:27>> Is there any way I could like get his
4:29information so he could so I could talk
4:31to him? I can try and get you a cell
4:33phone number. I know the sheriff out
4:35there has it. Um, so that that could
4:37probably
4:38>> like What was the town that I got
4:39arrested in?
4:40>> Callahan.
4:41>> Oh, Calahan.
4:42>> You ever been there before?
4:43>> No.
4:44>> Okay. Did you know Bobby or any of those
4:47folks like
4:48>> No.
4:49>> Okay. So, how did you come to Bobby
4:52then?
5:01He was just trying to help me out like
5:03you said like
5:04>> Uhhuh.
5:04>> him and I were friends and he was trying
5:06to help me out.
5:08>> So you known him for a long time.
5:10>> For a little bit.
5:11>> A little bit. Okay. Couple years. A
5:14couple days.
5:15>> Couple years.
5:16>> Oh, really?
5:17>> How long did he say?
5:18>> Not very long. So a couple days.
5:22So,
5:25>> so is he is he lying to me? Do I not
5:27believe anything that he says?
5:30>> He's my friend. He knows me.
5:32>> Okay. He just didn't want to claim you
5:33for whatever reason.
5:34>> Yeah.
5:35>> Okay. Well, does does he know your
5:38family or anything to be able to get
5:39that dog to him if he needs to?
5:40>> No. Big monster's good.
5:43>> Very monsters. What?
5:44>> Big monster is good. Big monster can
5:46stay there. I really wanted big monster
5:48to go to the pound.
5:49>> To the pound?
5:50>> Yeah.
5:51So they you get adopted by somebody
5:53else.
5:54>> Okay.
5:55>> That would have been better for
5:57>> Yeah. And I don't know what kind of
5:58setup they have out there. I mean,
6:00Callahan's pretty small county. Um so I
6:02don't know if they've got like animal
6:04services or if they have like a regional
6:05one or what. So who knows?
6:10But so do you know why we're here today?
6:14Okay. So why do you believe we're here
6:16today?
6:17>> I'm not talking. I'm not saying
6:19anything.
6:22Not talking about
6:23>> I'm not answering no questions. I'm not
6:27I'm not doing that.
6:29>> Okay.
6:31Well, if you don't want to talk to me,
6:32you don't have to. I mean, it's
6:33completely fine.
6:36>> Do what?
6:38>> Can't do my hair.
6:40>> Okay.
6:41But obviously, you're here for a reason.
6:43So, we just need to figure out kind of
6:45how all that came to be. So, that's why
6:46we're trying to talk to you so we can
6:48have best understanding. From what Bobby
6:51was telling me about your family, you
6:52kind of have a troubled past. And if
6:54there's some reasons behind how we came
6:57here today, then I'd like to hear them.
7:01>> I don't know.
7:05I don't know if you can know.
7:08How old are you?
7:14>> How old are you?
7:16>> 25.
7:16>> 25. Okay. What do you do for work?
7:21>> Nothing.
7:24>> Live on government show work.
7:27>> I have nothing.
7:28>> You have nothing. Okay.
7:30>> Basically, I have nothing.
7:33>> You had any family? Any friends?
7:34>> I didn't have family. I didn't have
7:36anybody to look out for me. Did you have
7:38anyone
7:40>> like here recently? I mean, at some
7:42point you had to have something, right?
7:44>> I didn't have anything. I lost
7:46everything. When did you lose
7:48everything?
7:51>> It doesn't matter.
7:53>> Well, it matters to me because it give
7:55me a better understanding of why we're
7:56here.
7:58>> It really doesn't matter.
8:08>> Do you have children?
8:12>> Yes, I do.
8:14>> How many you have? I have a son and I
8:16have a daughter.
8:18>> How old are they?
8:19>> My son is 3 years old. My daughter is
8:22one.
8:23>> One three.
8:25Where are they?
8:31>> I didn't I gave my son up for adoption
8:33when I have my daughter in my life. Just
8:36me and my baby daddy did. We didn't work
8:39out. He was my life too toxic. just
8:45I eventually got tired of the way he was
8:48treating me [ __ ] so I said I'm done.
8:51He took away my daughter like and that
8:54was the last time I saw her. I was
8:56seeing her in about 3 months and
8:59>> Oh, that's horrible.
8:59>> He didn't let me see her when I was
9:01doing her.
9:03She was the only thing that kept me. She
9:05was the only thing that made me do good.
9:08She was the only thing that made me do
9:09better. like what I had her in my life.
9:11I didn't do anything. I was good.
9:14>> What's her name?
9:17>> Tell him. And then my husband knew this
9:20cuz I knew this.
9:22He knew that was going to be my
9:23downfall.
9:25>> Was your daughter [snorts] let you?
9:27>> Once I lost her, I didn't [ __ ] have
9:30anything.
9:32He wouldn't let me He wouldn't let me
9:34see her. Why did he [ __ ] it? [ __ ]
9:37everything.
9:39>> [snorts]
9:41>> So, what did you do after that?
9:45>> Nothing.
9:47>> Literally nothing.
9:49>> So, where you been living this whole
9:50time?
9:56>> I've been all over. I've been different
9:59places.
10:03>> [snorts]
10:05>> Oh, I have a new buddy English. I never
10:10[snorts]
10:28remind me. Is your daughter the
10:29one-year-old or the
10:30>> She's the oney old. She's the one.
10:32What's
10:34>> What did you say her name was?
10:35>> Natalia.
10:36>> Oh, you don't want to tell me?
10:37>> I said Natalia.
10:39>> Natalia. Oh,
10:40>> I did not say I don't want to tell.
10:41>> I was I thought it was not telling you.
10:45>> Natalia. Okay. Where'd you come up with
10:47that name?
10:49>> I don't know. It was unique. I came
10:51across it.
10:53>> That's cool.
10:54>> I like it.
10:55>> Yeah. She's one years old. She lives
10:57with your baby daddy.
10:58>> Well, she's with her baby daddy. My baby
11:00daddy. She's good. She She have
11:03everything. And
11:04>> she live here in Fort Worth.
11:07>> I don't know where she's at.
11:09>> Okay. So, for the last 3 months, you
11:11haven't seen her and you don't know
11:12where he took her. Did the courts give
11:14her?
11:15>> I called the cops on his death because I
11:17know he abused me. I pressed charges on
11:20him. So, I don't know what happened.
11:23Well, I've heard y'all had a little
11:24volatile past
11:27and so that that goes to what you were
11:29saying with both y'all.
11:32>> Well, I just heard from looking at your
11:34criminal history, the the conflict
11:36between the police reports that I've
11:37already read,
11:38>> man, he was really a piece of [ __ ]
11:40Like, he he abused me. He treated me
11:43badly. He cheated on me. He lied on me.
11:46Don't [ __ ] believe any [ __ ]
11:48There's his side, her side, and the
11:50truth.
11:50>> Oh, I agree. He He treated me bad. He He
11:54was horrible. He was,
11:56you know,
11:58>> well, and all I'm in here today is for
11:59the truth, right? I just want to talk to
12:01you so that I can try and figure out
12:03>> the truth of what all happened, how how
12:06you came to be here, um why we're here
12:08today, right?
12:11And I told you that you had some
12:13warrants and you and I told you that I'd
12:15talked to you about it. So, here I am
12:16trying to follow through on that to be
12:18honest with you.
12:32You look like you want to ask me
12:33something or you have a question.
12:44[snorts]
12:56>> [snorts]
12:58>> What are you thinking?
13:04[snorts]
13:23You got a clean
13:26[snorts]
13:27right here.
13:34You
13:34>> just ask me the question that you want
13:36to ask me.
13:37>> Why are we here today?
13:43a little better.
13:45[snorts]
13:46>> I can tell it's really really weighing
13:48you down.
13:50Really weighing you down. Deep in your
13:52soul, isn't it?
13:57I
14:04got out of my life and putting
14:08>> [snorts]
14:18[laughter]
14:25[snorts]
14:31[snorts]
14:37>> We're not here to judge you.
14:40>> We're not, okay? We are here because we
14:43want to give you the chance to tell us
14:45what happened. I can tell something's
14:48bothering you. I can't. So, can he
14:54feel better, a lot better if you just
14:57let it out.
15:01We're not going to judge you.
15:03We're just going to listen. It's all we
15:05want to do is listen.
15:08>> Okay, I did it.
15:10>> What did you do?
15:19[snorts]
15:23I didn't plan for this to happen. I
15:24didn't plan for it to go to LA. I just
15:28wanted a [ __ ] car. I knew I [ __ ]
15:31the ball perfect. I just wanted I just
15:33was going to the car this [ __ ] I this I
15:36not playing for it that
15:39I went to my mom's house [snorts] and I
15:43didn't even know she had a gun that I
15:45didn't know. [snorts] Like I just went
15:47for the [ __ ] car. I was I was going
15:50to just play it all against these. Well,
15:53the reason I knew she got a car is cuz
15:55she got the dresser out. She pulled out
15:57the dresser and put the gun and pointed
16:00at me and she said, "I don't trust you."
16:03I took out as like, "What do you mean?"
16:08You know, I got the gun [ __ ] it
16:11happen. So, please
16:14like give me the key. Oh, no. I got
16:17[snorts] the gun. We were fighting cuz
16:20she was trying to get the gun.
16:28They're at her body later and we can try
16:30and figure some of that out. I think
16:31there was three casings, but um where's
16:35that gun now?
16:37>> I don't know.
16:39I have no clue.
16:41>> Well, we know you left, right? And at
16:44some point you broke down out in
16:46Illinois nowhere, right?
16:48Did you're all fine in the car?
16:50>> Uhhuh.
16:52>> Yeah.
16:53>> Was it okay?
16:55>> Oh, it's all messed up. Yeah.
16:57>> What do you mean all messed up?
16:59>> Well, it looks like you either hit
17:00something or your front left wheel came
17:02off and it looks like you drove on it
17:03for a pretty good while. Shot a lot of
17:06sparks off of the rotor.
17:08>> Um, so all that's kind of messed up. And
17:10then it looks like somebody might have
17:11hit it while it was on the side of the
17:12road cuz it wasn't pulled off very far.
17:14Um,
17:16unless that was previous damage, I don't
17:18know about. Um,
17:20>> yeah,
17:22I was just I took the car and I was just
17:24going and I didn't tr
17:29the point where I couldn't charge no
17:32more.
17:32>> Okay. So, what happened after that?
17:38>> I don't know. I don't
17:41>> Well, cuz at some point I got to find
17:43that gun cuz I don't want some little
17:45kid finding it hurting somebody or
17:47somebody that doesn't need to have it
17:49have it, you know.
17:51>> Oh, it's up. I literally don't want to
17:55stop.
17:56>> Well, it's not in the car.
18:03Okay. You don't remember getting rid of
18:06it?
18:08I don't know where it's at.
18:10>> But how how did you dispose of it? It's
18:14>> She tossed it on side of the road.
18:18>> I don't know where it's at. I don't
18:19know. It's destroyed. It's gone.
18:22>> It's what?
18:23>> It's gone. It's destroyed. Like
18:25>> destroyed.
18:26>> Like it's gone.
18:27>> Well, I need to confirm that. So, how
18:29can I do that? How can I confirm it's
18:31destroyed?
18:32>> I don't know.
18:33>> You mean did you sell it to anybody?
18:35>> No. Okay. Well, then from the time that
18:38you left your mom's house till the time
18:40that you couldn't go anymore, it was the
18:44gun was with you the whole time, right?
18:47>> I don't know where the guns at. I really
18:49don't know. I don't know.
18:50>> Okay. You don't remember?
18:53>> No, I don't know where it's at.
18:55>> Okay. Um,
18:56>> and if I did, I wouldn't tell you.
18:59>> You wouldn't tell me?
19:00>> But I don't know where it's at.
19:02>> Okay.
19:03>> I don't know.
19:04Well, I mean, at this point, what does
19:06it matter whether you tell me where it's
19:07at or not?
19:08>> But I don't know where it's at. I don't
19:10know. Okay.
19:10>> Well, I'm just concerned because I don't
19:12want anybody to get hurt with that gun.
19:13>> I don't know.
19:14>> That gun's already given out enough
19:16hurt. You know what I mean? So, I want
19:18to make sure nobody else has to deal
19:19with what your family's going through.
19:30I don't know. I don't know. If I knew, I
19:33would tell you, but I don't know.
19:35>> So, you would tell us?
19:36>> Yes, I would, but I don't know where
19:37he's at. Like, I don't know.
19:39>> Okay.
19:39>> Like, I just want to [ __ ] accept my
19:41sentence and go [ __ ]
19:42>> Remember when I told you we don't judge
19:44you? We're not judging you.
19:46>> I don't know where he's at. I don't
19:47know.
19:47>> Let me ask you a question, though. Okay.
19:50When you left the house, did you have
19:52the gun with you?
19:53>> What do you mean what?
19:54>> When you put it when you left mom's
19:55house and got in the car, did you have
19:57the gun with you?
19:59>> Okay. When you got on to 20,
20:03did you have the gun in the car?
20:06You did. Okay. When you got your car
20:11where it went anymore,
20:15was the gun already gone then or did you
20:17have it with you then?
20:18>> I don't know. You don't remember?
20:20>> I don't know. Like I I literally lost
20:22the gun.
20:23>> You lost it?
20:25>> Did you stop at any point between?
20:27>> I think I I don't know what happened to
20:29it. cuz it was on me that well I don't
20:32it's not on me so I don't know where it
20:34went. I don't know.
20:35>> Did you like put it in your pants like
20:37our like we put our
20:38>> I had it on me at a certain point then
20:41it was gone.
20:43>> Did you get out of the car other than
20:45like to walk to the gas station?
20:48>> I lost it before I um like when I was
20:52walking cuz it took me like literally
20:53about an hour and a half
20:55>> to get to that gas station.
20:57>> Okay. Do you remember the name of that
20:59gas station?
21:00>> No.
21:01>> Do you know where it was at exactly?
21:04No.
21:06>> You know if it was on the same side of
21:08the road that you were walking on or if
21:09it's on the opposite side?
21:11>> I don't know. Y'all know.
21:14>> Okay. So, once you got to the gas
21:16station, what happened?
21:21>> I'm done talking. I confess, but y'all
21:23want to get off.
21:24>> Yeah. But part of the thing that I'm
21:26trying to do here is make sure that
21:27there's other people that didn't know
21:29about this that you know to assess
21:32Bobby's involvement to assess anybody
21:35else's involvement to figure out how all
21:36of this came to be.
21:41>> It was all me.
21:42>> Huh?
21:43>> It was all me. It was on me.
21:45>> Okay. Did you have a cell phone with
21:47you?
21:50>> Do you have a cell phone?
21:52>> No, I don't have nothing.
21:54Okay. So, how did you meet up with
21:58Bobby?
22:03We met
22:06we met and he helped me out
22:10and
22:11like
22:13we met up and he helped me out and he
22:16knew I had some problem with the past
22:20and he helped me out. He
22:22was looking out for me.
22:24>> Where did y'all meet me at?
22:26>> I don't remember what what that place
22:28was.
22:32think I was just
23:00I'm listening.
23:31What are you thinking right now? Where
23:32are you debathing here?
23:50I basically confessed my body was all
23:52me. Like I didn't. Nobody had nothing to
23:55do with it. like nobody had him. Bobby
23:58helped me now and they did.
24:00>> So listen to this. So you gotta figure
24:02I've already talked to Bobby, right? And
24:03Bobby me talk a while. So I just want to
24:05confirm his story, but I don't want to
24:07sit there and tell it all to you. I want
24:08you to tell me your side so that I can
24:10make sure that Bob's telling the truth.
24:12Does that make sense?
24:12>> Yes. That doesn't make sense.
24:14>> So how did you meet up with Bobby?
24:17>> Okay. So, I went to the gas station and
24:21I asked him, I said, "Hey, mirror." She
24:24said, "Asked the girl that was looking."
24:26I asked her, she said, "Yeah."
24:29So, we literally And she said it was
24:32killer. Kill her. Kill her. That place
24:36>> my bad.
24:38>> So, they asked me what's going on. I
24:40played it off. No, I totally move. I'm
24:45going through some things that I have no
24:46place nowhere to go. They said, "Look,
24:48we got you. We'll look out for you." I
24:50was like, "Be."
24:52So, I said, "Can I go where y'all got to
24:55go?" He said, "Yeah." So, I went to
24:58where they went and
25:01I had a place to stay and like
25:04like and Bobby met up and we talked and
25:08I I told him what was up and he said,
25:10"We look out." He said he was going to
25:12help me out.
25:14And
25:17and that was it. Like I like he said
25:20like I had some past my problems and he
25:24was going to help me and he said he was
25:26going to help and I felt like literally
25:28he didn't help me at all. Like
25:31no.
25:32>> Did you give him anything in exchange
25:33for help?
25:35>> What do you mean by help?
25:36>> Did you give him a gun? Did you give him
25:38money? Did you give him sexual favors?
25:41>> No. These are just all the questions I
25:43got to ask.
25:45>> Nothing.
25:46>> Okay.
25:48>> So, once y'all got out there to his
25:50place, did you ever leave?
25:53>> No, I was staying over there at his
25:57place and crashing and we were chilling
26:01and just
26:06that was it.
26:08What y'all do for food?
26:13>> We made it by.
26:14>> Okay. Stuff you already had there.
26:18Okay.
26:22>> So, does that does my story add up to
26:24what his story said?
26:26>> Yeah.
26:28>> Yeah. We didn't know each other very
26:29well, but he was going to help me. And
26:33>> I think the only thing different than
26:34you told me is that you had some meth on
26:36you.
26:39>> What?
26:41Not a dope cop. Don't care. Just wait.
26:44You lazy.
26:45>> Said you gave the dog some some meth
26:49and he was scared and thought the dog
26:51was going to die. So he went and got it
26:52some milk, which I don't know how milk
26:54would save the dog.
26:54>> Man,
26:57the dog accidentally got into a monkey
26:59shed, but I didn't get my dog [ __ ]
27:01dope.
27:02Wait.
27:03>> So, was that stuff that Bobby had or
27:05stuff that you had on you or
27:06>> I don't know anything about [ __ ] all
27:09that [ __ ] Right.
27:11>> I mean, it really I really don't care.
27:13It doesn't mean hell of beans. I'm just
27:14sitting here saying that you have no
27:16loyalty to Bobby cuz he has none to use,
27:17>> man. He does it like this mother.
27:20>> So, might as well tell it like it is,
27:22right?
27:24>> No.
27:29So, let's go back. So, you walked over
27:34to your mom's house and then everything
27:36happened. Is this something that's been
27:38leading up to um to this? Like conflicts
27:42between the two of y'all?
27:44>> There's been conflicts between the two
27:46of us.
27:46>> Have you and your mom been arguing?
27:49>> What do you mean by that? Like we've
27:51always
27:51>> leading up to this
27:53>> like we've always got into arguments
27:55like me and her could never get along
27:58like
27:59like I don't know.
28:01>> Okay.
28:04>> What was your state of mind going over
28:06there?
28:07>> Just waiting.
28:09>> Like were you sober? Were you happy?
28:11>> I was fine. I was sober. I was okay.
28:14>> Okay. When was the last time you used
28:15strokes?
28:17>> I was not sober.
28:20I was I was
28:24No, I was I was there but I wasn't like
28:26like I had drugs my sister but like
28:33like I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't [ __ ]
28:36off like that day.
28:39>> Okay.
28:39>> Like what kind of drugs do you have in
28:40your system?
28:42>> I have this.
28:43>> Is that it?
28:45How much method do you induce that day?
28:47Man, I've been [ __ ] on her like a
28:49whole s of money driving to me drugs
28:52every [ __ ] every
28:56[ __ ] up like
28:57>> how are you getting money for those?
29:01>> If I have money I can get it. If I
29:03didn't I have friends that would just
29:05smoke juggle me for nothing. Like
29:06literally I have I have people.
29:09>> Okay. So, prior to going over there,
29:11when was the last time that you used
29:15>> me? I don't I don't know. Like,
29:21>> what do you mean? Remember the last time
29:23you
29:24>> prior to going over to your mom's house?
29:26It's not like you just sat there and
29:28smoked a wall and then walked four hours
29:30over there and then all this happened,
29:31right?
29:34>> I don't know. I felt fine, but I don't
29:35think that time I was like
29:40I didn't feel like myself. I I really
29:42did feel like myself. Like I don't know.
29:45>> So you said you did feel like yourself
29:47or did
29:48>> No, I I knew but I didn't feel like
29:50myself. I didn't feel like myself. But I
29:53don't know.
29:59Like, yeah, that night I did smoke a
30:01bunch of [ __ ] meth. Like, yeah, I did
30:04[ __ ] get high and did a bunch of
30:06[ __ ] lines.
30:09>> Yeah, I probably was still high
30:12>> when I went over there.
30:13>> Were you snorting it and smoking?
30:15>> I was doing both.
30:16>> Both.
30:17>> Okay. Do you inject?
30:18>> I never [ __ ] done any of them. I
30:20never will. That's just
30:22>> That's nasty.
30:23>> Just Just meth. Nothing else.
30:25>> Yes. was all too.
30:28>> Okay. So, do you remember what time any
30:31of that happened?
30:34>> The time that I was smoking.
30:36>> Mhm.
30:52>> Probably probably 11 or 12. 11 or 12 at
30:56night.
30:57>> Yeah.
30:57>> Okay. So, 11 or 12 at night and then
31:01took you 4 hours to get over there and
31:02you said you got over there like a
31:04little after 4,
31:05>> right? And then all this went down.
31:07Okay.
31:08>> My friend left at 1:00 at my house and
31:15>> when that shouldn't happen.
31:17>> Okay.
31:19Um
31:23>> I know. Were you afraid of her?
31:26>> No.
31:27>> You afraid she was going to call 911 or
31:30>> I was just I was scared. I got scared
31:32and I was afraid and I don't know why I
31:35was afraid.
31:37>> Basically, I was afraid I
31:40was I was scared that the cops would
31:42call. Yeah. I didn't want the cops to
31:46take.
31:48>> Yeah. I got scared.
31:51Then my mom was calling out and she woke
31:53up. I just I don't know. I don't know
31:57why I'm drinking that.
31:59>> Was she awake?
32:00>> Your grandmother's
32:03>> That's [ __ ] up. I'm [ __ ] up. That's
32:06[ __ ] up.
32:10>> Did you touch
32:11>> Did you say anything?
32:14>> No.
32:15>> Okay. What is
32:15>> my I don't know what I
32:20[snorts]
32:21What was your mom saying when you went
32:23over there? [snorts]
32:25>> She said she was screaming. Do you
32:27remember what she was screaming?
32:28>> She was just calling you for help for
32:33grandma or something.
32:34>> She was screaming.
32:35>> She was calling grandma to help her.
32:38>> What did she call my mom?
32:40>> She
32:42said, "Mom, mom." Screaming and
32:45screaming for my grandma. Yeah. I I
32:48don't know why. I don't know. I
32:51literally don't know.
32:54>> Uh, so it's going to take us a while to
32:56look for that gun. What kind of gun are
32:57we looking for?
32:58>> I don't know.
33:00>> Black, white, shiny, purple,
33:05plastic, metal, both.
33:11>> Like, is this not enough to [ __ ] lock
33:13me up? Is this not enough to
33:15>> Oh, there there's plenty to do all that.
33:17I'm just
33:17>> but you have a witness.
33:18>> My my whole goal here is not to sit here
33:21>> and and lock you up. My whole goal is to
33:23try and figure out all relevant facts so
33:26that one day when you go before a judge,
33:28God, and jury and they ask me questions,
33:31I can say this is everything she told
33:32me. This is what I was able.
33:34>> So this will stay between us if I tell
33:37you everything. I just nobody alone,
33:40nothing like this will stay between all
33:42of us. like that camera, that video of
33:46this confession like nobody can get that
33:49right
33:50>> as far as like media and all that stuff.
33:55>> And there's a whole there's a whole like
33:56court process that could happen uh in
33:59which that some of this could come out
34:00later. Yeah.
34:02>> But right now I need to I need to find
34:04that gun because I don't want anybody
34:05else to get hurt and so I need to know
34:07what I'm looking for. Does it make
34:08sense?
34:11I don't.
34:16>> Is it a semi-automatic or is it a
34:18revolver? Does it have a round circle or
34:21does it have a long skinny thing that
34:22you put in the handle?
34:25>> I think it was I No, it was not. I don't
34:28I don't know. I don't I don't know.
34:30>> Well, here's the thing, too, right? So
34:32anytime we work one of these cases, we
34:34take the casings that we find, we enter
34:36them into a database and then if
34:39somebody else has this gun and they end
34:40up using it in a crime and we connect
34:42those two and I find out that, you know,
34:45this gun ended up in the hands of
34:46somebody that shouldn't, that's going to
34:48be an issue, right? So that's the things
34:50that I
34:52>> Nobody can find that gun.
34:55>> So where is the gun? You obviously know.
34:58>> I don't know though. I don't know. And
35:00how can you how can you say nobody will
35:02find you? Cuz last last I remembered you
35:05telling me was you were walking and it
35:06fell out somewhere.
35:08>> I can't [ __ ] I'm scared to [ __ ]
35:10tell. I'm scared like no I'm not seeing
35:13[ __ ] I'm not going to
35:14>> What is there to be scared of at this
35:16point? If I go and recover that gun,
35:19then
35:21it's not going to harm anybody else.
35:25>> Do what?
35:28Wait.
35:30If I do, like I don't know what would
35:33happen. Like it's not about the [ __ ]
35:36guy. I literally don't know what the guy
35:38is. Like it's just
35:40I'm I'm scared on.
35:45>> So what are you so scared about in
35:46talking about the guy?
35:48>> It's not the
35:50It's who I'm scared of. It's
35:53>> What are you scared of?
35:59And who's going to hurt you while you're
36:00in here?
36:22>> Need some water? You don't think about
36:24it? Like I I I don't know what you're
36:26toiling with here. So, I'm trying to
36:28figure it out. I'm trying to see if
36:30there's something I can do to help you
36:31because at some point we got to get the
36:33gun, right?
36:35What can I do to help you get over this
36:37hurdle that you have right now?
36:38>> You you said uh Bobby Bobby
36:55If Bobby's got that gun, I'll go get it
36:57from Bobby. I don't [ __ ] know, but I
36:59know Bobby ain't got that gun.
37:01>> So, who's got the gun?
37:12>> Hey, Mom. Did somebody else get hurt
37:14with that gun after
37:15>> No. No. Bobby, help me get rid of the
37:18gun.
37:19>> Okay. Bobby basically was an assessor.
37:23Like he helped me out through a lot of
37:25[ __ ]
37:28>> Yeah. [ __ ] ain't got no loyalty
37:30like me that I'm not got no loyalty for
37:33him.
37:34>> Okay. So tell me what happened to it
37:35then.
37:36>> I don't know. I don't know.
37:38>> So he just took the gun.
37:39>> I don't know. He He got very
37:43>> Okay. There's a lot there's a lot of
37:45land out there. There's a lot of space.
37:46>> I don't know where he put it,
37:49>> man. I don't know. And now this going to
37:51[ __ ] up everything. I don't want y'all.
37:52Like I basically just
37:55make me a [ __ ] snitch for
38:00Yeah.
38:07I know
38:13>> it wasn't exactly painting you in the
38:14prettiest of lights. Okay. when
38:17literally saying that he was leaving
38:18trying to find a way to get you out of
38:20his house
38:21>> because he thought you were crazy.
38:23>> So, I don't think you owe owe him any
38:26loyalty,
38:26>> man. I was just on drugs. Like, when I'm
38:28on drugs, I'm like a [ __ ] up person.
38:30Like, I wasn't in my right mind. I was
38:33[ __ ] up. Like, I'm good people. I got
38:35to go hard when I'm so like, you know,
38:38like
38:39>> I get that that's a battle.
38:40>> Like, yes. Like, everybody has a battle
38:44with inside them. Like literally like I
38:47was a whole [ __ ] different person.
38:49Like it was the drugs that could help
38:50me. If I was sober, I would have been
38:52good. Like yes, he was trying to help me
38:54out. But
38:56>> so when y'all got to his place, you told
39:00me he you had the gun,
39:02>> man. He he
39:06>> Okay. Did he take it from you? What did
39:08he do?
39:09>> I don't know. All I remember is he said
39:12something about him throwing it into a
39:13lake. Like
39:14>> throwing it into a lake.
39:17>> I don't know that.
39:19>> Okay.
39:21So, did he physically took it from you
39:23and then
39:24>> he just like helped me get rid of it?
39:27>> And he told me we need to get rid of
39:28that.
39:29>> Okay. But how did that how did that
39:30conversation happen? Man,
39:33>> [ __ ] this [ __ ]
39:34No,
39:40I just want to [ __ ] known No, I just
39:44want to do my timing.
39:49That's it.
39:55I mean, what do you mean? Like, what do
39:58you want to know? Like, how did that
39:59conversation
40:01happen? You know, like you
40:02>> One second. You're telling me that it
40:04fell out when you're walking and now
40:06you're telling me that Bobby helped you
40:07get rid of it.
40:08>> I want to know how he helped you get rid
40:10of it.
40:11>> He basically said like you need to get
40:13rid of that. So
40:16basically I basically prevent him from
40:20happening. He said you need to get rid
40:21of that gun that's murdered that you
40:24need to get rid of. He's like I'll help
40:26you get rid of it. I said okay. And that
40:30was what happened. You handed it over to
40:32him right then. He
40:33>> gave the gun to him and he got in it.
40:36>> Okay. He didn't have a vehicle. So, how
40:38did he go anywhere?
40:39>> He has people who has cars. So, that
40:41[ __ ] can get around. He got
40:43around.
40:44>> Okay. I'm I'mware I'm aware of that cuz
40:46I found him at McDonald's when he had
40:47left you. Right. So,
40:51>> but I ain't mother.
40:53>> So, who who did he get in the car with
40:55to go get rid of it?
40:56>> I don't know. Some homeboy.
40:58>> So, it was a male. cuz I want to know.
41:01>> What kind of vehicle was it?
41:02>> I don't know. I didn't see it.
41:04>> Okay.
41:05>> All I know is I don't know if that's
41:08true or not. He said
41:14be
41:22honest God's truth.
41:31What have we not covered? What do we
41:34still have unanswered?
41:35>> Um,
41:42I think it took you a lot to get there,
41:47but I appreciate you telling us what
41:48happened. Okay.
41:51Um,
41:53I know it was hard, right?
41:56Okay. Um, so
42:00>> what what do you what what do y'all want
42:02to know? But y
42:05>> I don't
42:07like I'm literally like trying my
42:14>> Did you go inside the gas station or
42:17stay outside?
42:19>> I stayed outside.
42:20>> Never went inside. Did Bobby ever go
42:22inside the gas station?
42:24Yes.
42:26>> Like I'm I'm going to try and work with
42:27you. I'll try and work on it today.
42:30>> Do you remember what he was wearing that
42:31night?
42:39>> No, I don't.
42:40>> Do you remember what time they were in
42:42to each other?
42:45>> No. Don't know.
42:47>> Was the sun up?
42:48>> I know it was morning cuz it was
42:50daylight.
42:50>> Okay. The sun was up.
42:52>> Okay.
42:52>> Yeah. Do you remember the the name of
42:54the girl that was with him?
42:57>> No. Ter,
43:01>> I'm trying. I'm going stop fighting.
43:03>> Thank you.
43:06Thank you.
43:06>> Cuz I already know that,
43:09>> man. Did you really think Bobby was
43:10innocent?
43:11>> No. [laughter]
43:13>> Really? Thank you. He was incessor. I
43:16know he's a shady guy,
43:20>> but
43:21>> my just promise me at the end that my
43:23dog go to the pound and she's okay.
43:26>> I will call the sheriff's office. I will
43:28actually go back out there and tear that
43:30place up and they find that gun and go
43:32into any lady that's out there. But
43:37I need to know when when did all this
43:40take place of them taking the gun?
43:42I didn't have a phone and so like daddy
43:46phone I think
43:48I'm trying to work with I think but
43:54>> was it at his house or was it
43:56>> I was at his house
43:57>> you were at his house
43:58>> like you told me
44:014 years okay like I didn't have a phone
44:05I would have his phone so like when I
44:06would have his phone yes I wish I could
44:08find I don't know that exact time You
44:12know, like you know,
44:14>> was it the same day? Was it still
44:16Wednesday or was it Thanksgiving?
44:18Thursday?
44:23>> No, I don't think it was Thanksgiving. I
44:25think it was the next day after
44:27Thanksgiving.
44:29>> The day you both picked up.
44:31>> What do you mean when we
44:33>> Okay, so mom and mom happens on the
44:37shooting happens on Wednesday, right?
44:39>> Day before Thanksgiving.
44:40>> The day before Thanksgiving. That's when
44:41you meet Bobby in Tamlin, right?
44:43>> In Tamlin. Yeah.
44:44>> Okay. So, the next day is Thanksgiving,
44:48right?
44:48>> Yeah. Yeah.
44:49>> Then the next day is Friday, right? You
44:53following me?
44:54>> And Friday is Friday evening is when
45:00you get arrested.
45:03>> Yes. And
45:04>> yeah, it was on Thanksgiving.
45:05>> And then today is Saturday. So,
45:09>> yeah, that's what happened. So you tell
45:10Bobby what you did and he gets rid of
45:13the gun. Not the day you meet him, but
45:15the next day.
45:15>> No, the day I met. The day I met in my
45:18office.
45:19>> Okay.
45:20>> I told him and he said he will help me
45:22out.
45:23>> Okay. And then So is that that day he
45:25takes you give him the gun so he can get
45:27rid of it or is it the next day?
45:28>> It was on Thanksgiving night.
45:29>> It was on Thanksgiving that you gave him
45:31>> that that night cuz he ate and we had a
45:34good time when we talked that night.
45:37He's like, "I'm going to get ready to
45:38go." Okay.
45:39>> Said, "Okay, cool."
45:42And I already knew I was [ __ ] so I
45:45knew it. Like, whatever. He's like, "You
45:47need to get rid of that murder weapon.
45:49Dad, that's going to connect you to to
45:55murder."
45:57And okay.
45:59And I gave him a gun and got rid of it.
46:02>> Were y'all ever intimate at any time?
46:04>> No, he's
46:06Ew.
46:07>> Okay. Um,
46:11we found a casing next to the car.
46:14>> What do you mean? What casing? But it
46:16wasn't to my phone because my clip was
46:18out. My clip didn't have no bullets. I
46:20know for
46:22>> Well, so there's one on the ground
46:23outside of the vehicle. So, at some
46:25point, did you Where did the magazine
46:28go? Where did the boys
46:29>> Wait, wait, wait. You mean where my car
46:31broke down?
46:32>> Mhm.
46:33>> Oh, yeah. popped off the gun twice in
46:36there cuz I was [ __ ] mad.
46:39>> You shot shot in the air on the side of
46:40the road.
46:41>> Yeah.
46:43>> Okay.
46:43>> Yeah. I just shot the [ __ ] bullets. I
46:46was like cuz I I don't I didn't trust
46:49myself. I knew I knew
46:52>> with cars whizzing by and all the stuff
46:54you sitting there blasting.
46:55>> No, I just I popped the gun off. I got
46:58rid of the bullets and my clip was out.
47:01Like,
47:04nope.
47:04>> I don't.
47:05>> So, where did the magazine go?
47:07>> What magazine?
47:09>> The clip. Where did the clip go?
47:11>> I have the clip.
47:12>> Does it stay at the gun?
47:14>> Yeah.
47:15>> So, what happened when it empties?
47:18>> What do you mean what happened when
47:19>> What happened to the gun when it
47:20empties?
47:22>> When you fire it a bunch of times, what
47:24happens at the end of it?
47:25>> That was a live round.
47:26>> Yeah.
47:28I don't What do you mean by that? Like
47:30what? Like
47:30>> did it lock back? Did it go forward? Did
47:33the slide lock back or did it stay? Do
47:35you remember?
47:36>> Yeah. It locked back and I talked like I
47:41put it back.
47:42>> Dropped the magazine and I put it back.
47:44>> What? What do you mean dropped the mag?
47:46>> I just know a lot about how guns work.
47:47So I'm trying to figure out what
47:48happened. Right. Cuz you
47:50>> when I shot off the gun, my gun got
47:53locked back and I put it back. Why?
47:57>> Just trying to figure it all out.
48:02>> Y'all ask a lot of questions.
48:03>> Well, yeah. That's what I do. I'm a
48:06question guy.
48:07>> I was trying to get the information we
48:09all need.
48:12>> Again, we want to make sure that gun is
48:14not used to hurt anybody else. That
48:17That's why we are
48:19You think we'reounding you, but we want
48:20to make sure that gun does not get into
48:23somebody else's hands. either a kid and
48:25they accidentally shoot themselves or
48:27someone else or a bad person who then
48:30uses it to hurt another innocent person.
48:32So that's why we're trying to figure out
48:33where the gun is. We don't want it to be
48:36used to hurt anyone else.
48:38>> Oh, I think I think it's in a lake cuz
48:41that's what he said. He said me and my
48:43homeboy pulled up at a lake and I threw
48:46it in the lake. So like I feel like when
48:49he said that I believe him it has to be
48:52somewhere in the lake. Okay.
48:55So, you say I ask a lot of questions.
48:58So, here's my most important question of
49:00the day. You ready?
49:03At some point, if I go and talk to your
49:06remaining family, what do you want me to
49:08tell them?
49:16>> Nothing.
49:19>> Nothing.
49:21There's nothing I can't see. Like,
49:27>> you don't want me to try and explain any
49:28of this to him or tell them that you're
49:31sorry?
49:32>> I mean, I am sorry.
49:35>> Okay.
49:36>> I am sorry.
49:43>> That's not
49:49just
49:53Just tell them I'm sorry for what I did.
49:56Tell them I'm a horrible person. Tell
49:58them that I'll get my punishment for
50:02what I did.
50:04Tell them because I know I know what
50:06they're going through. I know you're
50:07suffering and tell them I'm sorry for
50:11all the suffering and pain that I put
50:13them through.
50:16Just just promise them that my
50:19punishment will come late. Would
50:22>> would you like to write them a letter?
50:26>> Okay.
50:32>> And when when you [ __ ] get that when
50:34we get Bobby, can you just please like I
50:37really don't want my dog over there. I
50:39don't feel comfortable with my dog, you
50:40know? Like period. Like I don't trust
50:42him. mean abuses my dog like no I told
50:46the cops that day take my dog for the
50:48pound like I know my dog is probably
50:51literally scared and terrified like he
50:52does not like my dog so I don't know why
50:55he would take my dog
50:57I want my dog to have a loving end
50:59forever
51:02I want my dog to be in a pound and when
51:05she goes I want that information but I
51:08[ __ ] up I'm
51:10that
51:14>> you care a lot about this dog, huh?
51:16>> Yes, I love her.
51:19>> Do you love your mama?
51:21You love your grandmother?
51:25>> Yes.
51:26>> More than that, dog.
51:31>> I love my mom. Of course I love my mom.
51:34Of course I love my grandma.
51:37>> I love more than my mom. I mean my girl
51:40to my dog,
51:42you know.
51:44I mean, my mom and I had a lot of
51:46problems. Like
51:52her and I always argue like she wasn't
51:54everybody makes mistakes. Like her and I
51:58like basically had like just she did a
52:01lot of [ __ ] [ __ ] to me when I was
52:03little and
52:05like that that made me angry. That made
52:07me not like
52:10you know just
52:21I don't want to [ __ ] talk about it.
52:22It's not going to matter.
52:24>> Does it matter to you?
52:26>> Yes, it [ __ ] does. Nobody [ __ ]
52:27listen to me. Nobody [ __ ] listen to
52:30me.
52:31>> We're listening to you. We were once
52:33stagger cuz you're not [ __ ] belie at
52:36the end.
52:38Like I do with my mom and I think her
52:41mom regret was pregnant. I don't know
52:44why I did it. I did it. I I was on de
52:49so fast. Like literally
52:53I don't know. I don't tell no.
53:00Do you have any brothers or sisters?
53:03>> Yeah, I have a brother.
53:05>> Are you older or are younger brother?
53:08>> Younger.
53:08>> You're the younger sister.
53:10>> I don't I haven't talked to my brother
53:12since I was like what, like
53:1418? Is that what he did to me?
53:17>> What he did to me?
53:19My mom
53:21forgive me that night. Don't go.
53:26But agree with me was what you call.
53:28Yeah. Cuz she loves him more than she
53:30loves me.
53:34Doesn't matter.
53:37Doesn't [ __ ] matter.
53:47>> What else about this whole thing?
53:50>> Dad doesn't mind work here for Michael
53:52Fashion. I'm I'm worried. I'm asking you
53:55what what else do I need to know about?
53:56What have we not thought about that that
53:58I should have asked you?
54:00>> What have we not talked about? Anything.
54:03>> What do you mean?
54:07>> I'm just trying to think if there's
54:08something else that I need to know about
54:10on this whole episode.
54:12Um, if there's something I'm missing.
54:15there's anything else you can think of
54:16that I need to know about
54:18>> about what about
54:19>> about this whole how it all transpired
54:21where items went
54:25any of that kind of stuff.
54:27>> I think we covered it all.
54:33>> What do you want us to know? What's the
54:35number one important thing that you want
54:37us to know about anything?
54:41What's the most important thing about
54:43anything?
54:46I if I need to do that, I need to get
54:49right with God and talk to God.
54:52That's my Why do I need to talk to
54:54y'all? And [snorts] I hear about that.
54:57We hear about
55:00because you're a human, right?
55:02>> But I can confess all that to God. Like,
55:04>> you can you can at some point the laws
55:09of man are going to have to sit there
55:11and judge you just the same as anybody
55:12else, right?
55:14And so she's we're trying to say what's
55:17important to you. What do you want us to
55:19know? So that way we can sit there and
55:21say this is everything. Caitlyn told us
55:23effective, right?
55:25>> I just I just want forgiveness. I want
55:29forgiveness. I want I want
55:34I just I know I just want I want my
55:37punish for me cuz I I deserve what my me
55:43want. I want I want that [ __ ] to
55:45get what he get because
55:49we talked about that [ __ ] We're
55:51talking about Bobby, right?
55:52>> Yeah.
55:52>> Not anybody else that we've talked
55:54about.
55:54>> Bobby,
55:56he's going to get his brain.
55:58We'll see.
56:03>> Have some water. Let us step outside.
56:04We're going to talk for a second.
56:06>> Hold me in.
56:08>> I'll leave 2 hours, right? What do you
56:11mean?
56:11>> 3 hours?
56:11>> No. Go back.
56:13>> Well, hurry.
56:54So, Only other thing I meant to ask you
56:56about was um that key to the Honda car.
57:01Uh it was out there in Florida. Did you
57:03try and get any of the other vehicles?
57:06>> Just the black one.
57:09>> Like when my tire popped off, I was
57:10driving on my tire to the point where it
57:13couldn't go no more. So I left the key
57:15in.
57:16>> Yeah. So I'm talking about before you
57:17left the house. Did you try and take any
57:20of the other vehicles or just the black
57:21one?
57:22>> Oh god, I did. Yeah, I did try and take
57:24my mom's car, but I didn't know how to
57:26use her car like
57:28>> Okay.
57:28>> Um, that's why I took the Honda.
57:31>> That's why you took the the black one.
57:33>> Yeah.
57:34>> Okay.
57:34>> Like her car starts with just having a
57:36key, you know, why they like in the car
57:38and like we literally in a rush to get
57:42out.
57:43>> Okay.
57:43>> I didn't want to [ __ ] do that [ __ ]
57:45>> Okay. Um Okay. So, you grab the keys,
57:49tried to get in one car, didn't know how
57:50to do it, got in the other car,
57:52finished. Okay. Okay.
57:53>> I mean, I could have figured it out, but
57:56>> you were in hurry.
57:56>> I was in hurry. I was the [ __ ]
57:59>> Okay. So, the only other thing uh that
58:02we're going to do and then we'll get you
58:03to go back to yourself. Okay. Uh we're
58:05going to take a sample of your DNA.
58:07Okay. [clears throat] So, we're going to
58:08come in swab uh twice most likely. And
58:12then when we're done with that, we'll
58:14>> Why do my DNA?
58:16>> Just to compare the stuff on the crime
58:17scene, stuff like that. Just
58:19>> don't y'all have
58:20>> Don't y'all have the evidence that y'all
58:22need?
58:23>> Yeah, but it was part of being thorough,
58:25right?
58:26>> So, I mean, don't y'all got everything
58:28y'all need to complete me?
58:31>> Well, we're always looking. Okay. And
58:33so, we just try and check all the boxes
58:36that we can. We give it over to a
58:38prosecutor at the end of it, say, "This
58:39is our total package." And then they do
58:41what they want to with it. Right? That's
58:43kind of how the system works. Okay? So,
58:45this is just the next thing. We have a
58:46legal process. We have to serve and we
58:48have to get your your DNA. Okay. So,
58:51I'll have some of our crime scene girls
58:52come in here and just please be as nice
58:54to them as you have been to us and
58:56they'll get that out and then we'll get
58:57you right to your dog. Okay.
59:00>> Sound good?
59:01>> Yeah. Promise me that my dog will be
59:03good.
59:04>> I will give them a call and tell them to
59:06check on your dog. Okay. Appreciate you.
59:11>> Okay. I've been looking at them. Show me
59:13your hands. Let me see what those
59:14tattoos are. I don't I can't tell the
59:15ones on your knuckles. Okay. So, tell me
59:18what they mean. I like tattoos.
59:19>> I don't know. I just
59:20>> You don't know.
59:21>> I got this tattoo and all those designs.
59:24>> Okay. So, they don't mean anything
59:25special or
59:27>> I mean they do mean.
59:29>> So, what do I mean? When I see a rose
59:32mean I know um $3.
59:36>> Okay.
59:39>> Mhm.
59:41I don't want I don't want
59:45stab
59:47like I'm
59:50>> This is Detective Holland and this is
59:52crime scene um investigator salon and
59:55they're going to
59:57>> So I I think I heard them telling you
59:58that we were going to get some swabs of
1:00:00your DNA. Okay. So the hang
1:00:07>> you feel better now that you told us
1:00:09what really happened the truth.
1:00:11>> Not that it makes what happened better.
1:00:12>> A little bit your soul.
1:00:14>> Yeah. Well,
1:00:16>> I didn't lie to you, did I?
1:00:19Good. They're going to We'll get you Let
1:00:22them do what they're going to do and
1:00:23then we'll get you back to yourself.
1:00:24Okay.
1:00:24>> Okay. So, this is just a warning saying
1:00:27from a judge that we're going to get
1:00:28these buckle swaps for me. Okay. So, all
1:00:30she's going to do is take some cotton.
1:00:31She's going to swab it around on the
1:00:32inside of your mouth. She's going to do
1:00:34six of them in total, okay? Um, but it
1:00:36goes by super quick, okay? So, just let
1:00:38her do what she needs to do. Don't bite
1:00:40her or anything crazy like that. Okay.
1:00:42So, there's that. That's going to be
1:00:43your copy. Okay. I'm going to let her do
1:00:45everything she needs to. Okay. All
1:00:46right.
1:00:59like this.
1:01:01>> Straight open.
1:01:02>> As wide as you can do it, please.
1:01:08>> See? Super painless, right? Doesn't
1:01:10hurt. So, she's just going to do that a
1:01:12couple more times. Okay.
1:01:17One more time.
1:01:23All
1:01:28right, one more time.
1:01:53Okay. Do you want to finish that water?
1:01:55>> Okay.
1:01:56>> I'm going to escape the nation smoke.
1:01:59>> Like I said, none of us smoke here. So,
1:02:00we we don't have any cigarettes. And the
1:02:02sheriff gets kind of mad when we smoke
1:02:04in his building, too. So, we can't do
1:02:06that. But, I'll give you a couple
1:02:07minutes to finish that water and then
1:02:08we'll take you back over.
1:02:09>> I want to go.
1:02:10>> You want to go now? Okay, we can do
1:02:11that. Uh, let me let me get the
1:02:12handcuffs and stuff. Hang tight just a
1:02:13second. Okay.
1:02:14>> Can I talk to that detective or I want
1:02:18the guy?
1:02:18>> You want the guy?
1:02:19>> Yeah, I want the girl. You You want the
1:02:21female that was in here? I
1:02:22>> want I want the guy.
1:02:23>> You want the guy? Okay.
1:02:32>> Thank you for everything.
1:02:33>> Hey, you got it. I'm sorry it went the
1:02:35way that it did, but I'm glad that in
1:02:37the end, you know, the truth came in,
1:02:39right?
1:02:41>> So,
1:02:41>> yeah.
1:02:42>> You're going to be all right.
1:02:43>> I know. I'll be all right. Okay.
1:02:47Well, [snorts]
1:02:48any questions up there?
1:02:50>> No.
1:02:51>> Okay. Well, I'll let you get you back to
1:02:53yourself. Okay. You want to chug that
1:02:55water real quick?
1:02:56>> Yeah.
1:03:00>> I'm good.
1:03:00>> Okay. You'll stand up for me. Behind the
1:03:04back.
1:03:06>> We put them in the other hand
1:03:09and y'all doing too tight. Y'all hurt
1:03:11me.
1:03:12>> How's that? Is that good?
1:03:13>> That's so much better.
1:03:15I had a lot of practice doing this back
1:03:17in the day. It's been a while though. I
1:03:19don't really use them as much as I used
1:03:21to.
1:03:22>> All right,
1:03:23>> we're going to double lock them so they
1:03:24don't get any tighter on you. Okay.
1:03:25>> Oh, those are fancy.
1:03:26>> I know. I have those.
1:03:28>> Bought these for myself after my first
1:03:30year.
1:03:30>> Tell my family that I'm sorry and just
1:03:35I'm sorry.
1:03:37>> I mean, you could tell my mom I love
1:03:39her, but
1:03:43>> Yes. I'm sorry.
1:03:44>> Yes, ma'am.
1:03:45>> Oh, I'm sorry.
1:03:46>> Okay.
1:03:47>> Okay. Give me Give me just a second. Can
1:03:49you have a seat again real quick? I will
1:03:50be right back in here.
1:03:53>> Some more water. I'm going to take it
1:03:55home.
1:04:04Been
1:04:12a long couple of days you had me
1:04:14working.
1:04:15>> I'm fine.
1:04:19>> It's my job. There's worthiness.
1:04:33I should probably find me. I'm serious.
1:04:38>> No, I was serious.
1:04:40>> Well, you know what they say, a good
1:04:41magician never gives up the tricks.
1:04:45But, uh, we we figured out who you were
1:04:49pretty quick, and
1:04:50Um, we used pretty much everybody we had
1:04:53with
1:04:54>> and it worked out.
1:04:56>> How did y'all know where I was at?
1:04:58>> So,
1:04:59>> y'all got to know.
1:05:01>> I went to a psychic and she read some
1:05:03tarot cards and told me exactly where
1:05:06you're at.
1:05:06>> You're so bullish. [laughter]
1:05:09Hang on. Hang on.
1:05:12>> This is actually
1:05:13>> Yeah, you get to take that with me.
1:05:14>> I'm going to put it in your pocket. I'm
1:05:15going to try to do it without getting
1:05:18all up in your business.
1:05:21Hey, I know you you were asking for
1:05:22cigarettes earlier. Do you uh
1:05:24>> you're going you're going? There you go.
1:05:26>> Do you just smoke cigarettes or do you
1:05:27smoke anything else?
1:05:28>> What do you mean?
1:05:29>> Like a vape or anything like that? I
1:05:31>> I'll take whatever.
1:05:33>> Did you Did you have a vape?
1:05:35>> No, I don't have anything.
1:05:36>> You don't You don't have a vape? You
1:05:37didn't have one?
1:05:38>> No.
1:05:38>> Oh. Oh, that's okay.
1:05:40>> No, I don't. My lips are so dry.
1:05:43>> I know. It's that time of year.
1:05:44>> All right, we're going to go to the
1:05:45right. Thank you.
1:05:48>> Thank you, Caitlyn. That was brave of
1:05:49what we did.
1:05:51>> The right thing to do.
1:05:52>> It was the right thing to do.
1:05:56>> Following the interrogation, Caitlyn
1:05:58Bailey was charged in connection with
1:06:00the deaths of her mother, Sher Bailey,
1:06:02and her grandmother, Bertha Bailey. The
1:06:05case remained in Tarant County, where
1:06:06[music] prosecutors ultimately moved
1:06:08forward on two counts of murder. Rather
1:06:10than take the case to trial on capital
1:06:12murder charges, Bailey [music] reached a
1:06:14negotiated plea agreement. On August
1:06:1729th, 2025, she pleaded guilty to both
1:06:20murders and received two [music] life
1:06:21sentences in the Texas Department of
1:06:23Criminal Justice to be served
1:06:25concurrently. The sentence also included
1:06:28an affirmative deadly weapon finding.
1:06:30Under Texas law, [music] Bailey must
1:06:32serve 30 calendar years before she can
1:06:34first be considered for parole, placing
1:06:36her earliest possible parole review
1:06:38[music] in November 203, when she will
1:06:40be approximately 55 years old. Parole is
1:06:43not guaranteed. The case also [music]
1:06:45closed a long history of violence within
1:06:47the family and repeated involvement with
1:06:49the criminal justice system. Bailey had
1:06:51been cycling through the Tarant [music]
1:06:52County court and detention system since
1:06:55she was 17 with arrests and cases
1:06:57involving domestic violence, [music]
1:06:59evading arrest, and escape from custody.
1:07:01In 2015, she was charged with [music]
1:07:03injuring an elderly or disabled family
1:07:05member, followed by additional domestic
1:07:08assault proceedings in 2016 [music]
1:07:10and further arrests and filings in 2017
1:07:13and 2020.
1:07:15Then in [music] 2021, Bailey pleaded
1:07:18guilty to felony assault after
1:07:19strangling her mother, Sherry, [music]
1:07:21as well as harassment of a public
1:07:23servant. For the murders of Sherry and
1:07:25Bertha Bailey, Caitlyn Bailey is now
1:07:28serving two concurrent life sentences.
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