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0:00Welcome to the Plant Free MD podcast
0:02with Dr. Anthony Chaffee, where we
0:04discuss diet and nutrition and [music]
0:06how this affects health and chronic
0:07disease and show you how you can use
0:09this to optimize your health and
0:11happiness both mentally and physically.
0:17Hello everyone. Welcome to another
0:18episode of the Plant Free MD podcast.
0:20I'm your host Dr. Anthony Chaffee and
0:22today I have a very special returning
0:24guest
0:25Mimi Morgan who has been on the the
0:27podcast before had a very very
0:29inspirational
0:31discussion with us last time. Mimi,
0:32thank you so much for coming back on. I
0:34appreciate it.
0:35Yeah, well thank you for having me. It's
0:37great to be here. Oh, you're very
0:38welcome. Um so
0:42the well our last episode was was very
0:45popular. A lot of people saw that but
0:47for for some of the people that haven't
0:49come across you, can you tell us a
0:51little bit about your story?
0:53Yeah, I'll be happy to I'll do the the
0:555-minute cliff note version of my of my
0:58story.
1:00Um
1:02So I
1:03I'll be 72 in September. So I've I've
1:06had a a long life. It's been interesting
1:08journey and
1:10you know, thankfully I grew up nose to
1:13tail very healthy eating. So I had some
1:16sort of foundation but like a lot of
1:19other women that came out with the low
1:21fat. I jumped on board and you know, I
1:25typically eat more fat in a day probably
1:27than I ate in a year. I mean, I'm not
1:29joking. The fat was absolutely
1:31eliminated from my diet.
1:33>> [snorts]
1:33>> And was healthy. I'm an athlete
1:36accomplished equestrian and
1:40but I was plant-based avoided beef
1:42avoided um
1:44any kind of um
1:47you know, any kind of meat or or
1:50anything of that sort
1:52had 6 years being vegan and you know, it
1:56catches up to you when you're in your
1:5840s. Um yes.
2:00It really does and I see that across the
2:02board with a lot. So and I got busy with
2:06my kids went off to college got busy
2:08working
2:10stopped doing the weight training. I
2:12used to bike 125 miles a week. I stopped
2:15doing that. Now I'm in the grind
2:18and now I'm in my 50s
2:21um
2:22experiencing menopause which I had a
2:24rough time and it just hit me like I
2:28mean, I ran into a brick wall in no
2:30time. Had a couple breaks
2:32Dupuytren's followed
2:35during the recovery of the brakes. I had
2:36some surgery
2:38just from some simple falls
2:40and uh
2:42while I was being treated with an
2:45experimental radiation treatment for
2:47Dupuytren's and
2:49um interesting whenever I mention on a
2:51podcast I get flooded with messages.
2:54Here it's really kind of a rare
2:57illness disease typically hits men
3:02not women
3:04but I I hear so many more you it's so
3:06prevalent now compared to how it used to
3:08be but it's a contracture of the hand.
3:11You develop nodules. You lose the use of
3:13your hand. I was an artist. I'm
3:16right-handed. Hit me in the right hand
3:17within a month. I had all 28 nodules
3:21and the treatment is to wait until you
3:23can't use your hand and then they cut it
3:25out. It comes back again and that wasn't
3:27acceptable to me. So I did a lot of
3:30research found a German um
3:32doctor who had this radiation therapy
3:36and I had to go to another state but
3:38found somebody who would do it on my
3:40hand. My it's 13 years now and I have
3:43all the nodules disappeared. I have full
3:45use of my hand. Right.
3:46>> My thumb joint my thumb joint's out a
3:48little bit but it's pretty minor cuz
3:51that was where the worst contract the
3:54nodules in the contraction were. I mean,
3:56it happened like in record time.
3:59But while I was being treated for it
4:02I was diagnosed with rheumatoid
4:03arthritis. Hm.
4:05Which affected my neck for me my feet
4:09severely and my hands. Did the course of
4:13all the drugs including the injections
4:15and biologics. This is within a you
4:17know, less than a 1-year span. 2 years
4:20into the disease. I was diagnosed with
4:23Parkinson's.
4:24And that hit me pretty bad. I had
4:27balance issues mild tremor
4:30and
4:31I had
4:32bradykinesia cog no rigidity and I
4:36started have cognitive issues plus a
4:39number of other non-motor symptoms that
4:42don't usually hit
4:44this early on.
4:46And within a year and a half or so of
4:50Parkinson's I'm now on 1200 milligrams
4:53of carbidopa levodopa.
4:55I'm taking pills every 3 and a half
4:57hours starting at 5 in the morning and
5:00then at 9:30 at night. Sometimes I'd
5:02have to wake up in the I'd wake up in
5:04the middle of the night with severe
5:05dystonia and have to take My dystonia
5:10was off symptom related. So I'd have to
5:12take you know, a half a pill just to get
5:14me through the night. Also had um
5:18neurogenic bladder which was pretty
5:20unbearable. Had had Botox treatments for
5:23that. Um that's where you think you have
5:26to
5:27um relieve yourself when when you don't
5:32and it can happen as much as every 30
5:34minutes.
5:35So I had a lot of
5:37non-motor irregular symptoms which then
5:40made me a multiple system atrophy
5:43suspect which is a Parkinson's plus
5:46looks
5:47not unsimilar to Parkinson's and then at
5:505 years it takes off and then you're
5:52you're gone in 3 years. So
5:552 years after Parkinson's um
5:58actually was probably one of the best
6:00days I'd had in 4 years. I had walked 4
6:03miles. It was an accident but you know,
6:07it gave me a
6:10Oh, gave me a little sense maybe I could
6:13could do something cuz at this and I
6:15this point I'm walking with a cane. My
6:17mobility is bad.
6:19I had actually lost something at the
6:211-mile mark which then
6:23made 4-mile walk with a small item.
6:27So I couldn't find it by driving. I had
6:29to walk and it was a brand new gift. Um
6:32but that afternoon I just I sat on the
6:34bench enjoyed the fresh air. It was in
6:36actually February 7 7 years ago and I
6:40had a medium-size stroke. Hm. Was rushed
6:43to the hospital
6:44>> [clears throat]
6:45>> stroke unit received TPA.
6:48Was released in pretty good condition.
6:51So I came through the stroke pretty
6:53well. I was in there for about 3 days.
6:56Unfortunately either at the ambulance or
6:59when I was in the hospital. I was
7:02unbeknownst to me at the time of being
7:04released. I was infected with a deadly
7:06bacteria. Hm. Um which um
7:11originally thought was staff later
7:13because I did not respond to traditional
7:15treatment um was deemed MRSA but
7:20I had a couple emergency um
7:24visits to the hospital had a PICC line
7:26was in the hospital for good bit of
7:29time. Released
7:31but with the wrong antibiotics and
7:35it spread to my spine my soas muscle my
7:38spinal canal. So now I'm sepsis. I had
7:41emergency surgical debridement on my
7:43spine
7:45and I was in the hospital for
7:48over 2 months maybe 2 months and a week
7:52because I was one antibiotic fail after
7:54another ended up in rehab for a couple
7:56weeks. Was given less than a 50% chance
8:00of surviving.
8:01Typically when it seeds this bad and it
8:04took 6 months for the daptomycin to
8:07totally destroy the
8:09abscess in my spinal canal. Should it
8:12rupture it goes to your brain and and
8:14death's pretty rapid. Um but I was
8:18legally disabled unable to walk had a
8:21walker um
8:23eventually then a cane.
8:26I have
8:27new s curve from it pretty damaged soas
8:30muscle and the likelihood of it coming
8:34back is especially for somebody with as
8:37many comorbidities as I
8:40um
8:41I'm [clears throat] on 13 plus drugs and
8:44I I say plus because every time somebody
8:47mentions something I'm like, oh I forgot
8:49I was on that one too. So I mean, it
8:51really probably is 16 at this time. Um
8:54Parkinson's was 330 pills just for
8:58Parkinson's.
8:59Um a month which is an enormous amount
9:03but you know, I was
9:07um
9:08you know, I was headed for a home
9:10shortly because I could not do the the
9:14I had to sit to wash my hair.
9:16Um uh
9:18I couldn't stand move took me 5 or 10
9:21minutes to roll over in bed.
9:24I
9:25just doing the day-to-day functions that
9:27we take for granted um
9:30were exhausting and pretty next to
9:33impossible. I had a team of 10 doctors
9:35and it seemed like I was always there
9:37and
9:39you know, always getting a new
9:40medication because when you get into
9:43that state and you're failing then more
9:46and more things fail on you.
9:48You know, every
9:50it just does. You're on a you're on a
9:52downward spiral and that and that's
9:54where I was headed. Yeah.
9:57Yeah. And then so so So what happened?
10:00How did you get out of it?
10:01Uh you know, it took a while. I I really
10:04tried hard. I had physical therapy for
10:06over a year.
10:07Um not much was happening. I still
10:09needed a cane movement. My pain level
10:12still five on a good day, seven most.
10:15And I don't do pain meds. So, you know,
10:17every day was excruciating. Um you know,
10:20I I had my mailbox moment, which
10:23you know, the more I think about it,
10:25it's just unbelievable. Um
10:28but I walked to the I passed walked to
10:30this mailbox every day. It was about two
10:31blocks from my house. Sometimes I'd get
10:33a little further past it.
10:35But it seemed to be like a point where I
10:37would stop often, kind of regroup to try
10:40to walk some more.
10:41Um
10:43and I'm at the mailbox, you know, one
10:45day about this time, um
10:48you know,
10:49five years ago.
10:51Um six years ago, you know, I've lost
10:53count, but uh you know, I'm a year and a
10:56half home from the hospital and I'm not
10:58getting better. I'm actually in some
11:00ways getting worse. My spirits are
11:03really crushed.
11:04And
11:06I stopped just like I can't go on any
11:08farther. And I I turned around in
11:11absolute defeat making a conscious
11:14decision to let this take me.
11:16And that's where I I heard, well, how
11:18many steps do you have? And
11:21why I listened or paid attention, I
11:23don't know. Um
11:24but I did and I stopped and I scanned my
11:27body.
11:28Um and my response was I have 10 more.
11:32And then I hear go go take them.
11:35So, I turned around and I took them.
11:38And I went home and I didn't think much
11:40about it, but I went back to that
11:42mailbox in 10 steps.
11:44And I took the took stopped and asked
11:47myself that same question. And I did
11:49that every day. About a few months into
11:53this,
11:54um at this point I've always been
11:56slender in my life and and pretty fit,
11:59but I've I'm on prednisone, I'm on
12:01gabapentin, I'm on this.
12:03Um and I'm not moving and
12:07um eating high carb diet, very little
12:10fat, very little protein cuz protein
12:13competes with Parkinson's medication.
12:15So, you're discouraged from protein. I
12:18maybe taking a little fistful. Um
12:22I've put on weight. And so, I go to see
12:24somebody to um I'm like, I've got to
12:26lose weight when this isn't helping my
12:28back any.
12:30And he proceeded to convince me to go on
12:33a 50 a diet 50% basically low carb, 25
12:37protein, 25%
12:40carbs. I mean, 50% uh fat, 25% carbs,
12:4425% protein. And I I really I thought it
12:46was mad and I told him so.
12:49And I said, my Parkinson's medicine
12:51isn't going to work. And he said, um you
12:54realize you're really sick and you're
12:56failing. He said, we have to get you
12:58well.
12:59Um
13:01Will you trust me? And you know, we I
13:03had spent about an hour and a half with
13:04him. And and at this point, I knew that
13:07if I'd gone back to the doctor saying
13:09I'm not getting better, this is
13:11happening, I get another medication. And
13:13and that would then further make me go
13:15downhill.
13:17And for I just trusted him. I mean, I I
13:19was out of options, really. So, I did.
13:23Um
13:25You know, people always want to know,
13:26okay, so how long did it take you to get
13:27better?
13:29And I am I you know, the first 30 days,
13:32I didn't notice anything. I kept with
13:35it. At six months, I wasn't feeling
13:37worse.
13:39And I held on to that. You know, when
13:40you're as sick as as I was, and I was
13:43really sick,
13:44um not feeling worse
13:47is something to be grateful for. And I'm
13:50so
13:51I'm grateful that I had the insight to
13:54hold on to that because so many people
13:56want to quit. Like if you don't get a
13:58quick turnaround, they want to give up.
14:01And for me, six months,
14:03I I wasn't worse and I held on to that.
14:05That was something that I that I hadn't
14:07had for years, not feeling worse.
14:11And I kept up with it. And about nine
14:13months, now I'm getting to 70-80% fat.
14:17That's when the lightbulb went off in my
14:19head. And that's where I noticed an
14:22improvement. And so now, rather than
14:25taking my pills every
14:27three and a half hours,
14:29I could wait four hours. Mhm. You know,
14:33and that I mean, that So, when you're
14:36taking pills every three and a half
14:38hours with Parkinson's, now you're
14:40starting to
14:42you know, around the clock, that many
14:43pills a day.
14:45You know, you're uh some people for
14:47earlier, but you're definitely So, now
14:49at this point, I'm experiencing
14:51dyskinesia.
14:52With which is horrible. So, that's a
14:55side effect from the medication. Um I
14:57had facial dyskinesia
14:59and and then respiratory dyskinesia,
15:03which is horrible. You you are getting
15:06oxygen, but you don't feel like you are.
15:08So, it's a terrifying experience
15:12because you're gasping for breath
15:14thinking you can't breathe. Um and so
15:17now, spacing out your medication,
15:20you start to have a little bit less
15:22symptoms. But I did have an improvement.
15:25So, it took me a while to get there. And
15:28you know, once I I got to that
15:31nine-month mark where I started, you
15:34know, the RA's improving cuz at this
15:36point now I've eliminated uh high
15:38oxalates, nightshades,
15:41um
15:43you know, um
15:45in order to get that fat, I am
15:47supplementing um MCT oil and coconut
15:50oil. But I'm eating beef every day and
15:53I'm eating the fat. Uh
15:56and you know, to be that high, I'm
15:58limiting um carbs. So, I maybe had, you
16:02know, five to seven foods that I
16:04allowed. Like I allowed avocado,
16:07mushrooms, asparagus,
16:10um
16:11uh Brussels sprouts, uh maybe once a
16:14week, um
16:15a
16:16piece of fresh fruit in season, maybe a
16:19little arugula. Uh I don't do dairy well
16:21and I didn't do eggs. Um and seafood. Um
16:25and I lamb doesn't work for me. So,
16:27basically I'm eating beef a couple times
16:30a day.
16:31I'm getting this improvement.
16:34And I just ran with it and I held on to
16:37it. I did not falter or cheat, you know,
16:40through Christmas, birthdays, one thing,
16:43because it was the first glimmer of hope
16:45that I had. Mhm. And
16:48I didn't want to go back to where I was.
16:50As a matter of fact, um and I slowed
16:52down a little bit now in that, you know,
16:55I just was grinding to get as far away
16:58from being sick as I could. Mhm. You
17:00know, so I was afraid to not stick with
17:03something that was making me better.
17:05And so, about
17:06well, I'm a little over two years now,
17:09um I heard about carnivore. At this
17:11point, I hadn't heard of that carnivore.
17:13I I wasn't really on social media. I was
17:15sort of disconnected. I'm not hearing
17:17about anything else. When I heard about
17:19carnivore,
17:20I thought, well, I mean, I'm really
17:21almost there. It was really easy
17:23transition for me. You know, I can live
17:25without the mushrooms and the broccoli
17:27and the few other thing or whatever it
17:28was.
17:29So, that's when I dove into carnivore.
17:32Um and also, my decision for that was is
17:35um
17:36I had a lot of um
17:38chronic um
17:40bronchitis. I got pneumonia. You know,
17:42my
17:44my um um
17:46my immune system was shot. They still
17:49have me three and a half years later on
17:50antibiotics for the spinal infection. As
17:54a matter of fact, I was told antibiotics
17:55for life. I'm on Bactrim DS twice a day,
17:58which is pretty heavy duty, after a PICC
18:01line for three months. And so, um
18:04um I had a couple occurrences with the
18:06MRSA returning.
18:08And
18:10I thought, I'm just going to stream You
18:11know, I knew diet at this point had a
18:13huge impact on my health. So, I thought,
18:15I'm going to just streamline it even
18:17more. Mhm.
18:18>> And that's when I [clears throat] went
18:19carnivore.
18:20Yeah, great.
18:22And then and then and then what
18:24happened after that? Did you get Did you
18:25get more improvements? And and where are
18:27you at today?
18:29Um you know, I did. Um and I still
18:31continue to improve. You know, I look
18:33back at pictures two or three years ago
18:35and it's like I'm getting
18:36[clears throat] better and better. Um
18:39I mean, I you you really do It's the
18:41human body is absolutely amazing. When
18:43you give it what it needs, um
18:47you know, and for me, I do a lot of
18:48fitness and weight training. I I'm a
18:51distance walker.
18:53Um I get plenty of sunshine and fresh
18:55air. I sleep. I I was unable to sleep
18:58with Parkinson's. Sometimes I'd go three
19:01days with no sleep.
19:02>> Ish. I I had I had restless leg,
19:04dystonia. I had Parkinson's night
19:07terrors.
19:08Not to mention the symptoms of
19:10Parkinson's. I I mean, I would
19:14you know,
19:16five hours a night of sleep was almost
19:19unheard of. I mean, that probably was
19:21the worst part of the disease that I had
19:24to deal with was the numerous sleep
19:26disorders.
19:28Uh and I had a lot of difficult things,
19:30but you can't heal when you're not
19:31sleeping. Um
19:33so, yeah, about from three years now
19:36free of all medication. So, I was a
19:39couple years in the journey. Um
19:41obviously, the heartburn's gone. Um I
19:44mean, who wouldn't have heartburn with
19:46what I was eating and the amount of
19:48medication I was on. So, that was the
19:50first drug to go.
19:52Um
19:54Um and you know, I'm not sure what I you
19:57know, the RA was the first to sort of
20:00improve because I'm a movie I'm removing
20:03the offenders. You know, there's no
20:04sugar. I don't drink anyway, but that
20:07was that wasn't part. Um
20:11No nightshades, no oxalates, no glutens.
20:14No this, no that. Um
20:17And you can't help but getting uh
20:19better. And so, it took me
20:22a while though. I was down to two
20:25medications, my Parkinson's and my
20:28antibiotics.
20:30Um I was slowly
20:34um
20:36reduce the Parkinson's medication. And
20:38at this point when I did it, I was
20:40feeling pretty confident that I could.
20:43So, I'm feeling pretty well. I'm moving
20:45without aid for the most part.
20:48Um And you know, I
20:53you know, 25 mg on a
20:56from a dose when I was not having off
20:59symptoms. And I suffered from off
21:01symptoms. I did it very slowly.
21:04Um much success.
21:07Um I can't tell you how good it was. And
21:10I would cut my pills like down to four.
21:12So, they're 100 mg. I cut them down to
21:14four. You know, when I when I was down
21:16to the very last
21:18doses of that. And then uh the last one,
21:23so I'm 3 years in now. Uh be this June
21:26was when um I gave up um the
21:29antibiotics.
21:30I I knew that that was going to come
21:32back and and haunt me.
21:36Being on uh because I'm a um
21:38I'm a antibiotic fail for so there's so
21:41many classes of antibiotics that I can't
21:44can't take. I'm allergic to vancomycin.
21:47Yeah, at one point in the hospital I had
21:48zero white blood cells. I was on
21:51Yeah.
21:52Um what is it? Cefazolin or whatever
21:54that's called. Um gentamicin,
21:57vancomycin, and I had zero white blood
22:00cells. Jeez.
22:02And um
22:04so, now I'm in lockdown in the hospital.
22:06Um and the original one I can't take was
22:11was just nafcillin. Um
22:14So, there's just so many classes that
22:16are not an option for me.
22:19Uh daptomycin was the one that that
22:21finally worked um
22:24for um
22:27for this the the MRSA infection. But the
22:30fact that it still come back um
22:33you know, it's never a good sign. It it
22:35um
22:36it encapsulates and hides and waits for
22:38an opportunity uh to come. But I I knew
22:41that if I stayed on the Bactrim DS, um
22:45that just was not going to be good for
22:47me to be on that for long term.
22:50And I'm I'm glad I did it. I went
22:51against doctor's orders um knowing so.
22:55Um but I'm glad I did it and
22:57um you know, my health's good. I live a
22:59full vibrant life. Um
23:02you know,
23:03as good if not better than in my 40s.
23:06And you know what? I was legally
23:10disabled.
23:11Mhm.
23:13And you have to be pretty severe in
23:16order to
23:17be in the United States to be legally
23:19disabled.
23:20Yeah. You just don't get that easy. I
23:23mean, you really have to be almost at
23:25death's door and unable to do anything.
23:27Uh my cognitive issues reversed.
23:31Yeah, great. Um
23:32Um
23:34you know, everything. I'm just not um
23:37I don't know if you saw on my I found a
23:39picture a year ago. So, it's on my pin
23:41post on on my um
23:43on my Twitter account of me when I was
23:4661 being checked into the Movement
23:48Disorder Center. Um
23:51I don't know if you've seen it, but
23:53I don't think so.
23:55Oh, you you won't believe it. Yeah.
23:58Because it um
24:01I
24:01I that woman at 61 looks like my mother.
24:05Mhm.
24:07Yeah. And even my family now notices
24:10that um
24:12So, like every time we see you seem to
24:14be getting better and stronger and
24:15healthier. And they're just they just
24:17scratch their head and look at me, you
24:19know. Um
24:21Cuz like I was so I wouldn't be alive
24:23today. Mhm. I mean, I was really going
24:26that fast. Yeah.
24:29Yeah, and yeah, I mean, I I've I've
24:32you know, seen that in in a lot of
24:34people in my own family. You know, my
24:35dad's Parkinson's
24:37reversed very quickly. And I had never
24:40Oh, he Okay. That's right. quite a lot
24:43of issues and
24:44and it was very difficult for him. And
24:46then I mean, within a month he was
24:49so much better. And then 2 months even
24:51better than that because he was still
24:53eating pretty lean meat. And then we
24:54sort of realized that he started eating
24:56more fat. And that just
24:58massively and boosted him up from there.
24:59And then
25:00and then he just got better and better
25:02after that. And he sort of you know,
25:04reversed the clock 10 years. And I was
25:06doing really well. So, yeah, it's um
25:08and uh and certainly with autoimmune
25:11issues. I mean, we see that all the time
25:12that you have massive massive
25:14improvement. And which it shouldn't
25:16really be a surprise. I mean, that was
25:17that was the treatment for autoimmune
25:19issues in you know, in the late 1800s,
25:22early 1900s. That that's what worked.
25:24And people did that. I mean, we we would
25:26look at the medical textbooks from
25:29Sir William Osler who was the
25:31um first professor of medicine at Johns
25:33Hopkins. He was knighted for his his
25:36work in medical education. And and and
25:39um and writing these textbooks and
25:41things like that. I have my great
25:43grandfather's uh
25:45book of Osler's. Um my my great
25:47grandfather was a was a surgeon in
25:49America.
25:50And um
25:51I have his book from 1910. So, it wasn't
25:54his
25:55college textbook. My he graduated
25:57medical school in the early
25:591990s from uh Columbia. And um and so,
26:03this is after that. So, this would have
26:04been his his text that he had as a as a
26:07professional.
26:08And
26:10I remember looking at the the chapter
26:12for diabetes just randomly. And so, this
26:14is Osler's. This is the gold standard
26:16best practice in the world at the time
26:18at Johns Hopkins and elsewhere.
26:20And said, "Okay, well, how do you how do
26:22you treat diabetes type 1 and type 2?"
26:24They didn't differentiate back then.
26:27And so, you know, we we go by the work
26:29we we still follow um the advice of
26:31Sydenham who was a doctor I believe in
26:33the 1600s or or or 1700s. But I believe
26:36it was 1600s.
26:38Hundreds of years earlier anyway.
26:40And it and it quoted from Sydenham uh
26:43essentially
26:45just eat um
26:47easy to digest food such as veal and
26:50eat no fruits or vegetables. Keep carbs
26:53to zero.
26:55That was the treatment. And it and it
26:56kept type 1 diabetics alive for
26:59>> [clears throat]
26:59>> 9 months to a year after diagnosis. This
27:02is this is 11 years before insulin was
27:04discovered. So, they had no insulin. You
27:06know, if you get diagnosed with type 1
27:08diabetes today
27:09without insulin, you you'll be dead
27:11within 2 weeks most likely.
27:13Unless you
27:14do this and follow William
27:16Sir Osler's advice. And so, this is
27:19advice that went back to the 1600s, you
27:21know, and
27:23and that was that was what people were
27:25treated with. So, this was not
27:26far-fetched. I mean, you know, what you
27:28just eat meat, no fruits or vegetables,
27:30no carbs. That's a carnivore diet. And
27:34it's not called by that name, but that's
27:35what that is. And so, that was that was
27:38what worked. And that was what worked
27:40for hundreds of years. And it put these
27:42diseases in remission. It did put um
27:45diabetes could put diabetes in
27:47remission. I mean, they there was even
27:49they you know, they said that even after
27:519 months to a year, uh there's still a
27:53high mortality rate in the in the
27:55younger patients, the juvenile diabetics
27:57or type 1 as we call it today.
28:00But it said high mortality rate. It
28:03didn't say
28:04this is a death sentence, an absolute
28:06mortality rate, a terminal disease. High
28:10mortality rate. So, that that suggests
28:12that people survived. And they lived
28:13long term without insulin uh just by
28:16following following that dietary advice.
28:19So, you know, that that's that's what
28:21worked. And I I So, we shouldn't be
28:22surprised. We just need to to read
28:24history. And read medical history and
28:26understand that this is we're
28:28rediscovering
28:29something that people knew for hundreds
28:31of years that worked. And now we've just
28:34we've just had it
28:35flushed out of our brains due to, you
28:37know, various multi-billion,
28:39multi-trillion dollar industries that
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29:29Uh it's sad. I work with a lot of people
29:32with Parkinson's. So, I since um
29:35got my metabolic health certificate, I'm
29:37a personal trainer, I'm a PWR Moves
29:40Parkinson's trainer. And so, um I work
29:43with well people, but I specialize in
29:45working with people with Parkinson's.
29:48Um and we know 100%
29:50that exercise is going to help with the
29:52disease. And there is so much to suggest
29:56that a ketogenic state and I'm going to
29:59tell you with the people that I work
30:01what with and I work with a lot now that
30:04those that um
30:06are the closest to carnivore do the best
30:09and see improvement in 30 days. See a
30:11reduction in symptoms.
30:14Um uh
30:15I mean you can just see the um the
30:17facial masking leaving their face. You
30:20can see the clarity in their eyes and
30:23and their reaction time to speaking cuz
30:25Parkinson's slows every every aspect of
30:28your life is slow. And what slow is is
30:32typically what
30:34uh everybody takes for granted and
30:36doesn't think about. That's why people
30:37with Parkinson's have trouble walking
30:39but they can dance cuz they're using the
30:40other side of the brain. But just So the
30:43first thing I do is is work with them on
30:46the nutrition.
30:48It's not always an easy journey to give
30:50up carbs but I take it slow and once I
30:53can get them to that place, I've yet to
30:55work with somebody that hasn't noticed
30:57an improvement where their family
30:59members haven't noticed an improvement
31:01and you can just see it's like their
31:03eyes light up, their expression changes,
31:06their energy level.
31:08It's the first thing that happens and
31:11then the reduction in symptoms uh
31:14appears.
31:15And then that combined with
31:18um a high intensity exercise program
31:22and then that feeds on to improving
31:25their sleep
31:27and then their mental outlook. Um you
31:30know, they start to get um
31:34um
31:35cuz when you're sick, you can get you
31:37get beaten down. You're sort of like
31:39attacked on a lot of levels and it's you
31:41can lose hope.
31:43And when your energy is up, you start to
31:46feel a little better then that that hope
31:49um
31:51um
31:52you know, becomes fueled and then grows
31:56and it's amazing seeing um the
31:59improvement in people.
32:02I mean it really is and I've yet to see
32:04somebody not respond Yeah.
32:07to this. I just I just have it and
32:10including the cognitive improvement.
32:13Mhm.
32:14Well, I mean there are ran- randomized
32:16control trials showing that ketogenic
32:18diets improve Parkinson's outcomes for
32:22motor and non-motor uh Yeah. Yeah, there
32:25are. They're they're not I mean you can
32:27actually find them on the Parkinson's
32:28site. They're not um
32:30Yeah, I've seen one one of them where
32:32they do Yeah, I think it's the
32:33Parkinson's Foundation. There's a
32:35couple. Okay. Um I don't think it's the
32:37Michael J. Fox's but the Parkinson's
32:39Foundation does discuss it. Okay.
32:42Uh it it's brief.
32:45Um and they'll
32:47you know, the problem is for them
32:50uh so one of the one of the things that
32:52I ex- which is really interesting I
32:54experienced. So um
32:56first thing if I if I were to um if
33:00uh I wouldn't see a neurologist for
33:02this. I go to a movement disorder
33:03center. Uh they have a couple more years
33:06training and they really are the best
33:07and they offer speech um and they're
33:10going to hound you. You know, I I will
33:12say when I was given my prescription for
33:14carbidopa levodopa and I was diagnosed
33:17by three of the top centers. At the time
33:19there were only 11 in the US, now
33:21there's 50. But the three top centers
33:25uh and I moved because um I didn't have
33:29anything local. So you know, I've got a
33:30five five-hour
33:32from each way to get to. Um
33:36So I eventually there was one here but
33:39every single one of them
33:41every single one when they give you your
33:43prescription
33:45tell you um
33:47the best medicine you can take.
33:49Unfortunately, it wasn't food. The best
33:51medicine you can take is physical
33:53exercise. So that's at least somewhat
33:56better than what you'll get from a
33:57neurologist. Yeah. But the Yeah, I mean
34:00uh a neurologist
34:02um I've um from a lot of clients that I
34:05work with um some of the protocols and
34:07the things they've done
34:09um
34:10are the most barbaric that I've ever
34:12experienced what they do. I mean
34:16just horrendous. I mean we're just
34:18it it's just awful. And the medicine the
34:21the um prescription medicine protocols
34:25are just absolutely horrendous. Um so I
34:28would not go to a neurologist. You may
34:30go get
34:31uh initial diagnosis but go see a
34:33movement disorder.
34:35Um but the problem is and and
34:39is this you're discouraged from protein.
34:42So fat doesn't have as big of effect on
34:45the absorption of the medication but
34:47protein does. So
34:49and none of them, not one of the people
34:52that I work with and I um most of my
34:54programs are any they are minimum three
34:57months, some of them go to a year
34:59because it takes a long time.
35:02Not one and I've worked with over a
35:03dozen and I just started um in um in
35:08January actually. Um a little bit soon
35:11sooner I took on Parkinson's. Not one of
35:15them has where the doctors explained the
35:17medication with them. Mhm. So and you
35:21have to uh so there's a work around.
35:24Um and the work around the work around I
35:26use. So you can you can have plenty of
35:29rather than avoiding protein. So I would
35:32just have a little protein at night. You
35:33can take it with your medication. You
35:35just have to time it when you take your
35:37medication.
35:38And and nobody's explained that and they
35:41but they are they are told protein
35:43affects your medication which it does so
35:46they avoid it.
35:47And so that you know, then then a number
35:50of other things um
35:52you know, B12 deficiencies, methyl you
35:55know, folate and you know, deficiencies.
35:59Um I mean I lived on graham crackers and
36:02bananas literally Jeez. until night time
36:05because I'm working and I don't want
36:07people to see see my symptoms. You know,
36:09we're faced with
36:12um
36:13maybe doing some things that are better
36:15for us but if we do, people notice our
36:18symptoms.
36:19And what symptoms they're going to see
36:23um
36:24at any given moment during any given day
36:28um are pretty hard to predict. And so
36:34I'm taking my medication trying to work
36:37and I'm avoiding protein so I was
36:39limited to a little bit of protein at
36:41night and I literally lived off of
36:43graham crackers and bananas which of
36:44course then just made me sicker. Um
36:48So they don't um
36:51uh
36:52>> [sighs]
36:54>> from my experience and from what I see,
36:57unfortunately
37:00they haven't gotten on a ketogenic diet
37:03is worth taking.
37:05Yeah. And and it is and again my
37:08experience is those that those that are
37:12the most compliant and are willing to go
37:16more carnivore and you know, pretty much
37:19there like 95 to 100 carnivore
37:23um
37:24are the ones that have the best results
37:26and the best recovery.
37:28Yeah. It just is. I I and I think in
37:30part
37:32um
37:34because
37:35when you allow a lot of other things
37:38then that's a door opening to going back
37:41to eating well, okay. So I did fine, you
37:43know, I had a salad for lunch and
37:45dressing and I did fine and then you
37:48think you can have this and then you go
37:50back to the the other direction. So it
37:52just
37:53it just makes it simpler um
37:56and I think you just eliminate a lot of
37:58variables.
37:59Um
38:01and then you're you know, cutting
38:04you know, for most people with
38:07um
38:09I have except for one woman I have
38:12um
38:13everybody else uh I've got to get to 70
38:16closer to 80% before they see the big
38:18benefits. And that was my experience,
38:21too.
38:22Yeah. Uh of that that of fat. Yeah. So
38:25that's pretty much knocking out carbs.
38:28Mhm.
38:29Yeah.
38:30And um yeah, that makes sense. You know,
38:32when you're getting into ketosis and
38:33being able to to to affect the nervous
38:36system a lot better there.
38:37Um
38:38So okay. So you know, si- since you had
38:41your recovery, now you're working with
38:42with other people it sounds like as
38:44well. So what do you what do you been up
38:45to since the last time we we saw you?
38:48Uh so I've been studying hard which um
38:51you know, which is really exciting. I've
38:54been studying hard. Uh I I I have quite
38:57a few
38:58certifications.
39:00Um Good. I I ace all the um all the
39:03Parkinson's and the neurological ones
39:06cuz I know it backwards and forwards cuz
39:08I lived it.
39:09You know, at one point in my journey and
39:11I was a a math minor, I should have been
39:13a math major. Uh algebra and calculus
39:16were my things. Uh absolutely love it.
39:19Uh and I was ace you know, A A+ student.
39:23Um um and so also A+ chemistry student,
39:27too. So you know, I had to have a couple
39:30smarts to to to
39:32to do that well. Um and I went to a good
39:35university here on this in the states.
39:37Um and at one point in my journey, I
39:40mean I couldn't do two and three digit
39:41subtraction and division. No. In my
39:44head.
39:45Yeah. That's how far That's how far I
39:47was slipping. Yeah. Um so that I mean
39:49that that was pretty terrifying. And
39:51it's pretty terrifying watching it and
39:53being aware.
39:54Mhm.
39:55>> I
39:56That's where I was. So the fact that I
39:57can even study
40:00and take these courses and do well just
40:03tells you how I turned around. Mhm. I
40:05mean 5 years ago I couldn't do that kind
40:07of math and and here. I mean that's
40:10That's powerful in itself. Um
40:13besides everything else. Um
40:16So let's see. So I'm doing that. Uh I'm
40:19training to walk 500 mi across Spain.
40:22Nice. And some distance walking. I'm
40:26weight training. I do a lot of I do
40:28group and private coaching and I love
40:30it. Uh
40:32I'm I'm a absolute
40:34big believer in strength training. Um
40:38and lifting weights. I plan to do it
40:41till the last day I'm on Earth.
40:43Uh I you know I At one point I you know
40:48couldn't lift a 10-lb grocery bag. Now I
40:50can deadlift 135. I leg press 270. Nice.
40:55And you know, I'm 125 lb and I'm 5'3".
40:58So that's a pretty
41:00And I'm old. [clears throat] Mhm.
41:02You know,
41:03uh so I'm pretty proud of that.
41:05Um I have enormous physical strength.
41:09Uh enormous resolve. Uh I'm writing a
41:12book. I'm enjoying life. I'm waking up
41:15grateful every day. Mhm. Um
41:17I'm I'm honestly and truly uh I've
41:20converted to Catholicism. So I'm coming
41:23[clears throat] up on a year. Uh that's
41:25an important part of my journey. Um
41:28and [clears throat]
41:29um
41:30enjoying my family.
41:32Uh
41:33Um my grandkids are big hockey players
41:37in Alaska and that's a whole different
41:38lifestyle. So they have weight training
41:40in school and and one just left from the
41:43juniors. And when I see them um
41:47uh when I see them in the summer,
41:48they're um
41:5017 and 20.
41:52Um
41:53uh They're so proud of me and my
41:55muscles. We compare muscles. I I have
41:57daughters in their 40s who are now
41:59eating tons of beef, weight training,
42:02and sending me their pictures cuz they
42:04don't like their their mother outdoing
42:06them. Uh so my my family's mindful of um
42:10You know, at one point they were like,
42:11"Okay, so you got well. Can you just
42:13stop with the crazy?" Just
42:16you know,
42:17buy me 10 lb of beef when I visit. And
42:19now they're sending me pictures of their
42:21steak that they're having with breakfast
42:23with eggs. And
42:24And I have you know, my oldest daughter
42:26has severe psoriasis, was on biologics.
42:30You know, you can't tell your kids any
42:32anything really.
42:33Um but she is off of it. Um she's not
42:37carnivore, but she is in a real
42:39streamline
42:40ketogenic diet, weight training, and
42:42she's been off of her medication for 9
42:44months.
42:45Nice. And and biologics are dangerous
42:48drugs, let me tell you. Oh, yeah.
42:50Absolutely. And that's Dangerous.
42:52Dangerous. Um
42:53I have no doubt that they
42:56um they can eliminate a disease and then
42:59also um
43:01um
43:01contribute to your downfall.
43:04Yeah. Uh which they I know that they did
43:06for me. I'm severely allergic to Humira.
43:09Um Mhm. Uh
43:10So yeah, so life is good and I'm really
43:13grateful and
43:16um you know, never in a million years
43:18would I have guessed or even imagined
43:22that I could have gotten to this point.
43:26Um Mhm.
43:27And you know, I do have um you know, I
43:29have a
43:31world gifted with thing with things and
43:33I had
43:35plenty of struggles in my life and I've
43:38lived long enough that
43:40um when I
43:41uh
43:42perseverance is a gift that I have.
43:45Um and I've needed I I've learned more
43:48perseverance in in this last 10 years.
43:52Um cuz I was sick for pretty close to 10
43:54year of my life. I feel like you know, I
43:56lost. Um
43:59So it's been
44:01uh
44:02it's been good, but the uh the fact that
44:04my body you know, I'm just every day I'm
44:07flabbergasted really that somebody at my
44:09age
44:11can turn around and heal is really a
44:13testament to
44:15how incredible the human body is. And so
44:18many you know, I was told even in my
44:20early 60s to
44:22just accept my fate that this was I just
44:26I I just got hit a little harder than
44:28everybody else that getting older
44:30is downhill and and you know,
44:33medications are normal and not having
44:36muscle is normal and not being able to
44:38do this is normal. And
44:41they're all lies.
44:43Every single one of them is a lie. Yeah.
44:46You know, it just is. We uh being well
44:50and healthy and fit. And that doesn't
44:52mean I haven't aged. I have, but being
44:56um
44:57healthy and well and fit and strong is
45:01our natural state. And that's in 70s and
45:04I'm going to say it's in our 80s and in
45:07our 90s.
45:08Well, you know, if you go back to Dr. J.
45:11Salisbury in the 1800s, he was a
45:14Civil War era
45:16doctor um out of New York and he
45:19did you know, did a 30-year research
45:21project into the optimal nutrition for
45:23human beings. He lived with the Native
45:24Americans at the time when you know,
45:26sort of before they were put on
45:27reservations and
45:29and taken away from and before we wiped
45:30out all the the bison in America and
45:32things like that. So to cut off their
45:35food supply so that they couldn't um you
45:37know, fight back as well.
45:38That sounds familiar now. You cut off
45:41the meat supply so people can't put up a
45:42fight. So It sure does.
45:45>> they
45:45um yeah. And so
45:47they um
45:49They I mean cuz that was the thing, you
45:50know, they they they cut off the the
45:51meat supply. They cut out and killed all
45:53the bison.
45:54And then what did they do? They didn't
45:56like kill everybody. What they they put
45:58them on reservations and they gave them
46:00you know, wheat, corn, and things like
46:02that. And um so it's the same people.
46:04Now you So you're [clears throat]
46:04feeding them. You just took away that
46:06food supply that was healthier and kept
46:09kept them better. Yeah. And then you put
46:11them on this stuff that kept them sort
46:12of weak, sick, and docile.
46:13>> [sighs]
46:14>> I don't I don't think that was that was
46:15by mistake, you know. I mean they they
46:17didn't just like let them die and starve
46:19to death. They gave them food. It's just
46:21different food. And uh and they couldn't
46:23you know, put up a fight after that or
46:25didn't.
46:26And so Salisbury was with them when they
46:29were you know, living as normal and
46:31eating predominantly bison or wild game
46:34for the entire year and then high fat.
46:36You know, all the people that say, "No,
46:37no, no, our ancestors would have eaten
46:39lean meat." Cuz wild animals are lean.
46:41Like they they've never actually gone
46:42hunting and seen how much fat is
46:44actually on an animal. It's like lean
46:46muscle bodies because they're not sick
46:48and and diabetic and have fat in the
46:51muscles. It's called myosteatosis, which
46:53is pathological.
46:54Um but they have just as much or more
46:57fat in the subcutaneous uh tissue. They
47:00just cut it all off and throw it away
47:01because fat Oh, fat's bad. So we should
47:03throw this all away.
47:05Um but the Native Americans did not
47:07throw it away. They kept it all and they
47:08made pemmican, which is 2 g of fat to 1
47:10g of protein. So very high fat ketogenic
47:13carnivore diet.
47:15And
47:16they they found or he found that
47:20these people were individuals were
47:21living to be 110, 115 years old or older
47:25as fit, healthy, active adults.
47:27And that. Running around, being
47:29physical, being ripped. I mean,
47:32you know, I've seen pictures from the
47:33the 1800s, early 1900s with the
47:35Australian Aboriginals
47:37where they have um
47:39four generations of men.
47:41And uh you have young man looks like
47:43he's probably in his you know, early 20s
47:45or something like that. Just shredded,
47:48ripped, muscular, just washboard abs.
47:50And there's his dad next to him.
47:52Looks even more muscular and shredded
47:54and ripped, washboard abs. Then there's
47:56his father who looks even better. He's
47:59just his face is a little older. And
48:01then there's the the great-grandfather
48:03who's just as jacked and shredded as all
48:05the rest of them. But you know, he's got
48:07gray hair and and his face is a bit more
48:09weathered. And and so you know, these
48:11people were living to great ages
48:14in very fit and healthy fashion. And the
48:17reason that we are dying long before our
48:20genetic
48:21genetic potential, which I learned in
48:24genetics
48:2525 years ago was 120. That basically
48:28according to our our telomeres, we
48:30should live around 120 years. That's
48:32that's the genetic estimate. And these
48:34people were doing that, but they were
48:36living as as healthy, active adults. And
48:37the reason we're not living to be 110,
48:39120, 130 years old is because we're
48:43getting sick. As we're getting sick in
48:45our 40s and that's slowly decaying our
48:47bodies. That's why we're dying in our
48:4870s and 80s.
48:50And and we're not we're not getting we
48:52and we
48:53You know, when I tell people like, "Hey,
48:54well, we can actually live a lot longer
48:55than that." Oh, I wouldn't want to live
48:57longer than that. Because they think
48:58that the body's just decaying
49:00after after after 30, you know. And that
49:03it's just like they couldn't imagine
49:04just how frail and miserable your life
49:07would be. You'd just be this slug in a
49:09bed with you know, no
49:11no um quality of life. You wouldn't
49:14recognize your family. They're like,
49:15"No, thank you." But that's the problem.
49:17Those are the people that die young.
49:19Those are the people that die 40 years
49:21early, 50 years early.
49:23And without realizing it because they've
49:25been so sick and their bodies are just
49:26breaking down. And they just finally
49:27give up. You know, we're supposed to be
49:29like every other animal on Earth where
49:32they are just fit, healthy, hunting uh
49:35or running away from hunters until one
49:37day they just that's it and they just go
49:39to sleep and they don't wake up.
49:41And we see this in zoos. They're just
49:42healthy active, you know, adult animals
49:45and then they're just a little more
49:47lethargic and a little more sleepy and
49:48they just don't wake up one day.
49:51You know, their body's just like that's
49:52it. So, they're they're healthy up until
49:54the point that they drop dead. And
49:56they're not dropping dead of heart
49:56attacks. Their their body's just like
49:58that's all that's all they have. And
50:00then it's time for them to move on. And
50:03um
50:04you know, works. And so, we accept this
50:07degenerative process going on for half
50:09our lives. And we say, "Oh, well, that's
50:11just normal." That's not normal in any
50:13other form of life on Earth.
50:15Plant, animal, insect, or or microbe.
50:18It's just that's not it.
50:20And um
50:22And so, but we accept that as normal. We
50:24accept as normal that our brains are
50:25supposed to shrink as we age. And we
50:28say, "Well, that's normal age-related
50:29atrophy."
50:30But at the same time, we know that if
50:33you have certain nutrient deficiencies,
50:35like B12 in the normal ranges, you can
50:38still get brain atrophy. Your brain is
50:39shrinking by half a percent or percent
50:41per year. Oxford showed that in 2008 in
50:44a published study they did. So,
50:46and that's in the normal ranges of B12.
50:48You say, "Well, my doctor says my B12's
50:50fine." Well, I can tell you it's
50:51probably not. And um if your if your
50:55doctor didn't say it was too high, then
50:56it's it's not fine.
50:58And um
50:59>> I I I hear you. I I I I keep I keep
51:02track of that one. A lot of people are
51:04walking around don't have a clue Yeah.
51:06that their that their B12 is low. Yeah.
51:09Well, and and that's the thing. So, we
51:10know that that called Well, because we
51:13you know, we we're just going by
51:13reference ranges and doctors just go by
51:15reference ranges. Well, those are the
51:16reference ranges that we use. Okay, but
51:18did you look them up and see if they're
51:19actually useful? Because the next lab
51:21down the road, they have completely
51:23different reference ranges. So, who's
51:24right? And you have a patient that goes
51:26to one lab or the other lab and and you
51:29get one says fine, one says too high.
51:31Well, what is it? You know, is it too
51:33high or is it You're making objective
51:35decisions based on arbitrary figures. If
51:38you were an architect or or an you know,
51:42an engineer that did that and used
51:44arbitrary measures, you know, bridges
51:46and buildings are falling down. People
51:47are dying. If you had accountant that
51:49used artificial figures, they'd be in
51:51prison. You know, when when you use
51:53>> They would. When you use you know,
51:55imaginary arbitrary figures and measures
51:58for humans, you know, health collapses.
52:01It's instead of buildings, it's it's
52:02your health indirectly.
52:04And
52:05you know, and that's the thing, too.
52:07You know, other other animals don't have
52:09their brain decay and shrink for over
52:11the course of their life. No no no other
52:13animal in the wild eating their natural
52:15diet has
52:17normal age-related atrophy. There's
52:18actually a study where they looked at 99
52:21chimpanzees and did MRIs looking at them
52:23comparing them to people aging over time
52:26and they had no degeneration in their
52:28brain. Their brain didn't shrink at all.
52:30They had no atrophy as they aged at any
52:32point. And they even concluded that this
52:35is a this is an abnormality in humans
52:38that that our brain shrink over time.
52:40And so, obviously that can't And they
52:42said this is evolutionary anomaly.
52:44But it's not It can't be evolutionary.
52:46It can't be a biological There there's
52:48no selective force that would you know,
52:51that would benefit us by having our
52:53brains shrink and rot out of our heads.
52:56There's no benefit to that. You know,
52:58being being a burden on society and
53:00ourselves, not being able to hunt and
53:02kill and and protect our families.
53:04That's not That's not a survival
53:05survival advantage. That's a big
53:06disadvantage having to take care of
53:08people that that are are now enfeebled.
53:11So, it doesn't make any damn sense. And
53:13so, I I think that's that's malnutrition
53:15over time. And we're we're just we're
53:16just assuming, "Well, that's normal for
53:18us to decay over the years and just die
53:20at 70. Oh, it's normal for our brains to
53:22shrink and atrophy and get dementia."
53:24Just because we see it a lot doesn't
53:25mean it's normal. It is the norm, but
53:27that doesn't mean it's supposed to
53:29happen. It doesn't mean it has to
53:30happen. And you know, as you're living
53:32proof of.
53:33Yeah. Uh um I mean, absolutely. Um And
53:38um you know, sadly I still see more of
53:40the other and I still see
53:43you know, people who you know, think I'm
53:45a one-off and and
53:47think they're okay you know, they're
53:49okay. Um
53:51Um think they don't need to lift
53:53weights.
53:55Um
53:56And you know, I I personally think
54:00I mean, people are definitely waking up
54:02and becoming more aware. Mhm. Um I do
54:05think you're not um going to get um
54:10we're not going to get a lot of change
54:14um until doctors start stepping up and
54:19being honest. Um because we you know, we
54:22we
54:23people are brainwashed. I can't tell you
54:25how many times I hear
54:28when they ask what I eat and I tell them
54:30they say, "Oh, my doctor won't let me
54:31have a a steak but once a month." You
54:35know, and now it's kind of the point
54:36where I say, "Well, you do realize you
54:39are your own person and you get to make
54:40your own decisions and maybe your
54:42doctor's wrong."
54:43Um or I have to cut the fat off my beef.
54:46Um
54:48Uh where you know, till people either
54:50question or you know, doctors stop with
54:54the ins It's really
54:57you know, some of it's insanity, some of
54:59it's criminal, you know, some of them
55:01know darn right well and some of them um
55:05are still you know,
55:07oblivious and and some are still not
55:11curious enough to um
55:14you know, to question. Um you know, I I
55:17I almost died. Well, I almost died a
55:19couple times. But the first time was is
55:22because the standard of care said this
55:26was the antibiotic I needed to be on.
55:29Yeah. And when I was a fail with that
55:31antibiotic and still showing positive,
55:34still not getting better, they put me on
55:36another one, but then when they sent me
55:39home unbeknownst to me, they took me off
55:42the one that was making me feel better
55:44um and improving and making my blood
55:46cultures negative and sent me home on
55:48the one that was a fail, which allowed
55:51the drug to seed. Um and that had I had
55:54a couple instances of that. Um And
55:58people have to realize that
56:01you know, they're they're protecting
56:03themselves by following these standards
56:06of care that are created by these
56:08organizations
56:10that um are aligned with pharmaceuticals
56:13and have their own best interests. And
56:14nobody's making money off of The only
56:16one making money off of us eating beef
56:19are the farmers. Um you know, they're
56:22not I mean, cuz there's no I'm not on
56:24any prescriptions now. My My I was on
56:2765,000
56:29and over dollars a year for my
56:32medication.
56:34My biologics alone was $4,500 a month
56:39for four injections. Those are so
56:41expensive.
56:41>> of Yeah. 65,000 a year. Mhm. You know,
56:46you get a bunch of us, that's a lot of
56:48money people are making. Um and I'm on
56:51nothing right now. So, no nobody's
56:53making any money from me.
56:55You know, plus um plus I'm well. Plus I
56:59have clarity of mind and when you have
57:01clarity of mind and the light bulb goes
57:03off, you're like, "I'm not buying into
57:05this anymore." Mhm. So, I'm not buying
57:07into everything else that I was doing
57:10before. Um and um
57:14you know, it's definitely um
57:16um
57:18there it's definitely benefits
57:22a whole lot of people and and not really
57:25the ones that it needs to.
57:27So, it really does take and and and back
57:30when I was doing it, you know, I
57:34I had a I had a I bucked the system
57:37without a lot of knowledge and
57:40you know, just
57:42And truthfully,
57:46I I ended up
57:48I just ignored advice and started to do
57:51the opposite.
57:53You know,
57:55um
57:55and it's what got me better. And
58:00I really I'm I was pretty healthy and
58:03fit in my early 40s. Did a lot of
58:06strength training, was riding 5 days a
58:09week. You know, biking 125 miles.
58:13Um I have better muscles than I did and
58:15it's not easy. So, you know, if you can
58:17start early, start early. It's not easy
58:19at my age building muscle. But you can
58:22do it and I better muscles and
58:27you know, I'm going to argue in a lot of
58:29ways that I'm healthier than I was back
58:32then. Because I think I was already on
58:34the road to It didn't take much longer
58:37for
58:38um me to take a nose dive and now should
58:41anything come my way, I think I have a
58:42really good fighting chance cuz I'm
58:44really healthy and strong.
58:46Yeah. That's really good. And and and um
58:51And again, it it's our normal state. And
58:54anybody who tells you differently,
58:57you need to run away from.
59:00Yeah.
59:02Yeah. No, I I agree. I mean, I I
59:04I've said that before that that you
59:06know, the natural state of humanity is
59:08is is to be healthy. And natural state
59:10of all life on Earth is to be healthy.
59:12You you can't You know, life comes from
59:15this the the survivors, the winners. And
59:17so, you will never have a species of
59:19animal that was designed flawed, that
59:22was designed to be sick, that was that
59:24that came from you know, the sick made
59:27more sick and sick and sick and sick.
59:30And then you get this sick species and
59:32population, that can't happen. They
59:34would have died out. They would have
59:35been outcompeted. They would have just
59:37been gone. You know, there's there's
59:39there's so many so many uh forms of life
59:41that have gone extinct. And that were
59:44not sick inherently, that were very
59:46successful, that were very
59:49dominant [clears throat] in their time.
59:51And then and then they weren't. So, you
59:53know, if you if you have somebody that's
59:54just is just sick and crippled and
59:56miserable
59:57the whole time and decrepit as a
59:59species,
1:00:01that's not going to be a successful
1:00:02species. They're never going to survive.
1:00:05And
1:00:06you know, people make a lot of excuses.
1:00:08Well, all you have to do is get to
1:00:09reproductive age. We're not lizards. You
1:00:11don't have to have like a clutch of eggs
1:00:12and then go away and they just raise
1:00:14themselves. You know, we're
1:00:16multi-generational
1:00:18um family sort of oriented species where
1:00:21like, you know, we would have we would
1:00:23have, you know, grandparents,
1:00:24great-grandparents
1:00:26um living in the same community in the
1:00:28same house is quite often. Yeah. And
1:00:30then you'd have uh them hunting and
1:00:32fishing together throughout their whole
1:00:34life. And then you have the the you
1:00:35know, the very elders, they might sit
1:00:37back and do a bit less and and just but
1:00:40they would understand this is this is
1:00:41when the herds are coming in. These are
1:00:43the things you can eat. These are the
1:00:44things that you can't eat. These are the
1:00:45things that these are the plants that
1:00:47work medicinally. These are all these
1:00:48other sorts of things. So, you have you
1:00:50have you have living knowledge and
1:00:51experience.
1:00:53Um those were your libraries. Those were
1:00:55your universities. They had this you
1:00:56know, 100 years of lived experience that
1:00:59you could then pass on to other people.
1:01:01And um
1:01:02so, that was very important. So, you you
1:01:04didn't just make it to 14, have a couple
1:01:06kids, and then die, and then these like
1:01:08two-year-olds would just raise
1:01:09themselves. It's asinine. It's asinine
1:01:12to think that that was the case. So,
1:01:15yeah, we we are supposed to be healthy.
1:01:17And the idea that we were just you know,
1:01:19just we're supposed to die young, we're
1:01:21supposed to get sick
1:01:23is is insane if you think about it for
1:01:25even a second. And and the people that
1:01:28propagate that I I don't I don't
1:01:30understand their motivation. I mean,
1:01:31some people are you know, there's a
1:01:33profit incentive to push that nonsense
1:01:35and get people to believe it. So,
1:01:37they're paying people to do that, I'm
1:01:38sure.
1:01:39But
1:01:41there's other people on the internet
1:01:42that just I think they just want to
1:01:44sound
1:01:45knowledgeable.
1:01:46And they want to sound like, "Oh, well,
1:01:48actually." And then they and then they
1:01:49tell everybody what we've all heard for
1:01:51the last 50 years as if it were
1:01:53something novel.
1:01:55And um
1:01:56and uh they well, you know,
1:01:59"Well, actually, you know, weight loss
1:02:00comes from a caloric deficit." And this
1:02:02is this is
1:02:03Yeah, buddy, we've we've heard it all.
1:02:05We're saying that that's not correct.
1:02:06Here's this different model and this
1:02:08makes more sense and here's the evidence
1:02:09for that.
1:02:10You know, but then they but people want
1:02:12to they want to be correct. They want to
1:02:13correct others. It makes them feel good
1:02:15for some reason.
1:02:17And um
1:02:18and I think that's I think that's what's
1:02:20going on. People are just they're just
1:02:21assuming
1:02:23the the lie and they're just willing to
1:02:24accept it so they can feel
1:02:27correct and that they can feel that they
1:02:29know something that other people don't.
1:02:30They go, "Oh, well, actually, I
1:02:31disagree." And that for some reason
1:02:34satisfies something in their life.
1:02:36I can't really understand what else is
1:02:38going on. Um I'm
1:02:40you know, for the normal people that
1:02:42aren't being paid to shovel this
1:02:43nonsense down our throat.
1:02:45>> Yeah.
1:02:46Well, yeah, and and you know, I I hear
1:02:47often
1:02:49uh
1:02:49I just did a post a little while ago.
1:02:51Oh, I know, Dr. I had a
1:02:53taped something with Dr. Baker and he
1:02:55had
1:02:57said, you know, we just had this
1:02:58interview. And you know, so the
1:03:01responses were, "Well, great. N equals
1:03:03one. Let's do some research." And I'm
1:03:05like, "Buddy, I'd be dead if I waited
1:03:08for
1:03:09uh research to see if this would work.
1:03:11I'd be long gone. And no, we don't need
1:03:14to. Just look at how Just look at the
1:03:16ill I mean, I I was at some function and
1:03:21um and I looked at oh, and I looked
1:03:23around and I thought
1:03:25there are five people It was maybe 400
1:03:27people.
1:03:28There are five that I'm going to say
1:03:30that live a healthy life. The rest of
1:03:32them don't look healthy. There's no
1:03:34glow. There's no spark. There's no They
1:03:37don't move with purpose.
1:03:40And I'm talking people that are younger
1:03:42than me, you know, and um
1:03:46it
1:03:47Just look at what's out there.
1:03:49You know, it's obviously what they've
1:03:51been promoting is not
1:03:54is not benefiting society. Yeah. You
1:03:57know, at all. And the ones that are
1:03:59willing to say
1:04:01"Okay, I don't I see I see that it isn't
1:04:04benefiting society. I see people aren't
1:04:08getting It's not like, you know, people
1:04:09are getting healthier.
1:04:11And
1:04:13you know, people like me and you are um
1:04:16coming off in some tangent. It's like
1:04:17the rest of the world is getting worse.
1:04:20And here are the people that are getting
1:04:22healthier.
1:04:23Um so, maybe what we're doing we're on
1:04:26to something here. And people are are
1:04:30opening up and questioning. You know, I
1:04:33I think um
1:04:34um and I don't say too much about um
1:04:37COVID and all what happened with the
1:04:38vaccines. Um unfortunately, my dad was
1:04:41one Mhm. who was on no medication, 96.
1:04:45I've never seen a mind as sharp as his.
1:04:48I mean, he could remember my friends'
1:04:50last names that I couldn't remember.
1:04:52Unfortunately, the vaccine killed him.
1:04:54Um but I do think the one
1:04:58if there's any saving grace from that is
1:05:00is it opened people's eyes up to
1:05:03maybe what's going on and questioning
1:05:05things. And um and people can need to
1:05:08keep questioning no matter whatever
1:05:10they're dealt with. Um
1:05:13uh and also too, you know, myself
1:05:16included, I was so willing to um every
1:05:18time I got a diagnosis,
1:05:20um I was willing just to accept it at
1:05:23face value.
1:05:25And then also accept what their course
1:05:27of treatment was.
1:05:28And you know, should anything happen,
1:05:32um
1:05:34before I
1:05:35uh and I like to think how I'm living is
1:05:37doing the best I can to prevent
1:05:39anything.
1:05:41But I'm going to look at every every
1:05:43aspect
1:05:44um that I could to heal my body not
1:05:48using
1:05:50what the medical community says is
1:05:52conventional treatment. Before I even
1:05:55consider
1:05:56consider taking anything or doing
1:05:59anything else. Because we are given
1:06:01bodies that can can heal naturally.
1:06:04Yeah. Well, you know, and then my
1:06:06response to those people is say, "Oh,
1:06:08great. N equals one. Let's let's get
1:06:09some research." So,
1:06:11we do things. One, we already have
1:06:13research. We have randomized controlled
1:06:15trials showing that ketogenic diets
1:06:16improve uh motor and non-motor outcomes
1:06:19in Parkinson's Yeah. better than
1:06:23well-designed um
1:06:25uh omnivorous sort of uh diet sort of
1:06:27based on like a Mediterranean sort of
1:06:29sort of approach. That was by um Dr.
1:06:32Matthew Phillips in New Zealand. Yeah.
1:06:34Um and and you know, the Mediterranean
1:06:36diet improved from where they were, the
1:06:39ketogenic diet improved more.
1:06:41Right?
1:06:42>> And I think in 12 weeks, if I remember,
1:06:44most people in the 12. So, not It wasn't
1:06:468 to 12 weeks and and so, it wasn't a
1:06:49real long time.
1:06:50>> No.
1:06:51And and and significant improvements
1:06:54during that time. Significant
1:06:55improvements.
1:06:56And um and number two,
1:07:00even if you don't have that, if you were
1:07:02if you were doing you know, the
1:07:04conventional wisdom and and you were
1:07:06getting worse,
1:07:07and you want to try something different,
1:07:09it's not going to hurt you. You know,
1:07:11first, do no harm. But you know, we know
1:07:13that ketogenic diets are safe long-term.
1:07:15We have plenty of studies showing that.
1:07:17We
1:07:18the the the diet that we've been on
1:07:20since humans have been humans.
1:07:22And so, you know, that shouldn't cause
1:07:25any harm. And so, might as well try it.
1:07:28You're seeing randomized controlled
1:07:30trials. You're seeing studies. You're
1:07:31seeing individuals such as yourself have
1:07:33massive improvements. You're seeing
1:07:35doctors like myself and many others
1:07:36saying, "Hey, I've applied this to my
1:07:38patients and I've seen massive
1:07:40improvements for your condition.
1:07:43Why don't you give this a try? There are
1:07:45numbers of randomized controlled trials
1:07:47in humans showing that that certain
1:07:49dietary interventions such as removing
1:07:51carbohydrates and fiber directly
1:07:54improves
1:07:55massively improves autoimmune
1:07:57conditions. It can put um
1:07:59Crohn's disease in in remission for up
1:08:01to 51 months without medication in one
1:08:03study. In the contrast group, um the
1:08:05control group that did not remove
1:08:07carbohydrates and fiber, they couldn't
1:08:09even stay in remission even 1 month
1:08:11without without medication. So, massive
1:08:14disparity. And so, we do have studies.
1:08:17We have a lot of studies. We have
1:08:19hundreds of years of of medical
1:08:21application. In fact, and we have 100
1:08:24years of of uh using ketogenic diets for
1:08:27epilepsy and migraines and other sorts
1:08:29of conditions, diabetes going back
1:08:31hundreds of years.
1:08:32And um
1:08:34and this is all in the medical
1:08:35literature.
1:08:36But either way, it's not going to hurt
1:08:39you. It's it's at least just going to
1:08:40provide nutrients that your body needs
1:08:43and eliminate out things that could
1:08:45cause harm. And so,
1:08:49who does it hurt? I mean, why are people
1:08:50fighting against this? It's just like,
1:08:51"Okay, people should just be interested
1:08:53in that." It's like, "All right, well,
1:08:55you know, I I don't know one way or the
1:08:56other, but you know, do it if you want.
1:08:58If it tries, great. And just be happy
1:09:00for people." You know, and instead of
1:09:02trying to attack people that have had
1:09:04amazing experiences and trying to share
1:09:05that with other people. It it doesn't
1:09:07make sense to me. I don't I don't
1:09:09understand like what how this people
1:09:10feel like personally attacked Yeah, I
1:09:13don't you and others have have gotten
1:09:15better. It doesn't make sense to me. Cuz
1:09:17it it isn't hurtful.
1:09:19I mean, [clears throat] it isn't. And
1:09:21um you know, and if it shouldn't if it
1:09:24doesn't work for you, then stop it.
1:09:26Yeah, exactly.
1:09:28And I don't understand why I think
1:09:32um
1:09:35because they don't have that response.
1:09:37You know, I can't tell you how many
1:09:39times I heard from from my physicians,
1:09:41you know, plant-based. Mhm. Plant-based.
1:09:44So, why is that What evidence is there
1:09:46about that? Yeah. Yeah, well, none. And
1:09:49I'm just getting worse the more
1:09:51plant-based I'm going.
1:09:53I mean, literally, I'm just
1:09:55failing.
1:09:57Um so, I don't know I don't know what it
1:09:59is and I I don't
1:10:02you know, I think it's going to take a
1:10:03couple
1:10:05It's going to take a long time to turn
1:10:06around. I think probably my age group is
1:10:08probably pretty gone. Mhm. I mean, I
1:10:11think it's pretty it's pretty late to
1:10:12turn them around because they're they're
1:10:15convinced and they're the they're the
1:10:17age group that's the most
1:10:20afraid to say to their doctor, "No."
1:10:23Mhm.
1:10:24You know, um it probably takes some
1:10:26younger generations, but you know, I I
1:10:30don't
1:10:31I'm not quite sure what it's going to
1:10:32take for
1:10:34um
1:10:35for some of these organizations, some of
1:10:39these doctors to say to be open to
1:10:42trying this. You know, what what you're
1:10:44doing is not clearly not working. You're
1:10:46you're back here and you have more
1:10:48symptoms.
1:10:49You know, why don't you give this a try?
1:10:52Yeah. You know, try try this diet. Um
1:10:56um
1:10:57and
1:10:59and see how you respond.
1:11:01Yeah.
1:11:02Well, you know, I I I think that that a
1:11:05lot of people are pretty fed up with how
1:11:07how things are are going or or not going
1:11:10all that well and they're getting more
1:11:12and more sick and
1:11:14we as doctors think, "Well, here's a
1:11:15problem, here's a pill. Pill for every
1:11:17ill."
1:11:18And we don't realize that we're not
1:11:20getting people better. We think, "Oh,
1:11:21I'm going to cure people. I'm going to
1:11:23cure disease. I'm going to help people
1:11:25fight their illness." But it doesn't
1:11:26it's not curing them. It's not helping
1:11:27them in in that sense of of addressing
1:11:30the underlying root cause because
1:11:32it's not addressing the underlying root
1:11:34cause. You have to put them on
1:11:34medication. And you know, rheumatoid
1:11:37arthritis is not a Humira is not a
1:11:39Humira deficiency.
1:11:41Right? I mean, this is not a Humira.
1:11:43Then you have to just replace that and
1:11:45then everything works together.
1:11:46Um it's you know, so
1:11:49when you put people on more medication,
1:11:53definitionally, they are getting worse.
1:11:55They are getting less healthy. And so,
1:11:57then you put them on a medication and
1:11:59then they're they they get even worse
1:12:00and you have to up the medication. You
1:12:02have to put them on different
1:12:02medication. You're more medication.
1:12:04There's side effects to that medication.
1:12:05You have to put them on more medication.
1:12:07These sorts of things. So, the more
1:12:08medications you go on, by definition,
1:12:11the less healthy you are. Because if you
1:12:13were healthy, you wouldn't need those
1:12:14medications. And getting healthier is
1:12:16what you did.
1:12:18And you actually came off your
1:12:18medications. And so, that's the
1:12:21definition of getting healthier is is
1:12:23not needing medications and coming off
1:12:25medications. And that's the the mark of
1:12:27improvement. And that is what we as
1:12:29doctors are supposed to be doing. We're
1:12:31supposed to be healing our patients.
1:12:34Not just
1:12:35covering up an axe wound with a
1:12:37band-aid.
1:12:38Right? And so
1:12:41you know, that's that I think a lot of
1:12:42people are coming to this. My whole
1:12:44practice is based around that. I don't I
1:12:46don't I see people that are
1:12:50basically fed up with how things are
1:12:53going and they're saying, "Hey, look,
1:12:54I've I've tried everything and all of
1:12:55all I've gotten for it is just more and
1:12:57more medications and you know, my
1:12:59doctor's trying to tell me put it on
1:13:00this and go on this and go on that." And
1:13:02they're just like,
1:13:03"I'm obviously not getting better. I'm
1:13:05getting worse." You know, I I I need
1:13:07something that gets me better. I don't
1:13:09They're highly motivated. They don't
1:13:11they don't want to be sick. They don't
1:13:13want to be on medications. They don't
1:13:15want to have surgery.
1:13:17They want they just want to be well.
1:13:19And so, they come to me and we we
1:13:21address diet and lifestyle first and
1:13:23foremost. Use medications to fill in the
1:13:25gaps. But I I deep prescribe more than I
1:13:27prescribe.
1:13:29You know, I help people get off
1:13:30medications more than I I put them on
1:13:32medications. And the medications I put
1:13:34them on are short-term while we're
1:13:36healing the underlying condition. And
1:13:38then we get them off.
1:13:40That's the way it's supposed to be. And
1:13:42and we lost we lost our Yeah, we lost
1:13:44our way. And that's why I say, you know,
1:13:46I wasn't worse for 6 months I wasn't
1:13:49worse.
1:13:50And
1:13:52and I had the insight to know that's an
1:13:54improvement cuz I was
1:13:56getting worse. Mhm. I mean, by the week
1:13:59I was getting worse. Yeah.
1:14:01And um
1:14:03and that was that was that was those 6
1:14:05months my body was healing. I wasn't
1:14:07worse. Um
1:14:10and nobody you know, nobody
1:14:14And I I I liked my doctors. I worked
1:14:16hard to find the team. I didn't just
1:14:18pick the first one out there. I went
1:14:20through a lot of them.
1:14:22Um they were well-meaning.
1:14:24Um but the sad reality is I only had
1:14:26one, which was my movement disorder,
1:14:29that was curious when I told her I was
1:14:32um that's my Parkinson's doctor.
1:14:35Um [clears throat] for those that don't
1:14:36know, who was um curious and wrote it in
1:14:39my notes when I told her that I'm
1:14:42feeling better and she observed my
1:14:44movement was clearly better. Um
1:14:48uh
1:14:49and everybody else was sort of brushing
1:14:52it on under the rug. Didn't want to
1:14:53hear. You know, couldn't get out of the
1:14:55room quick enough.
1:14:58You're going to die. You're going to get
1:15:00sick.
1:15:01Your the illness is going to get worse
1:15:04if you stop this medication.
1:15:06And
1:15:07you know, most of them were probably
1:15:10um
1:15:14late 40s, early 50s. You know, I picked
1:15:17that age group for a reason cuz I wanted
1:15:20I didn't want somebody really young
1:15:22feeling insecure and I didn't want a
1:15:24really older doctor thinking they knew
1:15:26it all. I thought, "Well, maybe you
1:15:27know, maybe I'll pick a curious age
1:15:29group." I really strategically
1:15:31picked them. But yet
1:15:33um
1:15:34you know, all reputable practices,
1:15:37all well-meaning, you know, good people.
1:15:41But yet the lack of curiosity was
1:15:45and you know, in hindsight, just
1:15:48I just can't believe it that they
1:15:51they weren't curious and you'd think
1:15:54with somebody like me,
1:15:56um
1:15:58that they would be absolutely curious
1:16:01and fascinated, "Well, how are you
1:16:03getting well and what are you doing?"
1:16:04And and and
1:16:09um
1:16:10and and and getting off of medication
1:16:12one after another.
1:16:14You know, um
1:16:16even my asthma doctor, who I'd been on
1:16:19asthma medication I had asthma at 2
1:16:21years of age, quite severe,
1:16:24as a child. And I've been on asthma
1:16:26medication
1:16:28faithfully
1:16:29every day of my life up until 3 years
1:16:33ago when I got off of it. It was the
1:16:37third to the last medication that I went
1:16:40off. I mean, that's huge for somebody
1:16:43who never missed a day of taking asthma
1:16:45medication. And it wasn't necessarily
1:16:47for wheezing, it was for
1:16:50uh preventative. Um you know, oral
1:16:53steroids or and I there I did the whole
1:16:56gamut of of asthma medications. Been
1:16:59hospitalized a couple times. Mhm. I
1:17:01mean, that's huge that that many years
1:17:03being sick and treated with an illness
1:17:05that I can be off that medication. Yeah.
1:17:08Yeah.
1:17:09And you'd think the doctor would say,
1:17:11"Like
1:17:13What What do you I mean,
1:17:17you're you're
1:17:19you know, 69 years old. What do What
1:17:21what what the heck did you do?" Yeah.
1:17:23You know, and he's the one that actually
1:17:25took me off. I was a little nervous,
1:17:27too, because I've been I depended on
1:17:28that so long. He says, "Your lung
1:17:31function" and I have a little scarring
1:17:33from a long history, but he says, "Your
1:17:35lung function function's incredible.
1:17:38You don't need this anymore." Good.
1:17:41Yes, but
1:17:44why don't you need it? Like how how
1:17:46could this be?
1:17:48Yeah. You know, when you know, 6 months
1:17:50before like you just need to take this.
1:17:52I mean, we're just going to you're going
1:17:53to be on this, you know, forever. That
1:17:56was their attitude and now now I don't
1:17:58have to be on it and now I'm off of
1:18:00everything else. I mean,
1:18:02Yeah. Um
1:18:04Yeah. The only the only one that did So,
1:18:06I had did have an occurrence of the MRSA
1:18:08came back on my finger. I'm not sure why
1:18:11because mine was blood born
1:18:13last fall. It was minor. Um always a
1:18:16little worrisome. Um
1:18:18um but uh
1:18:21I'm getting I'm going for surgical
1:18:23debridement
1:18:25um in my in in my finger to to treat it
1:18:27and um then antibiotics.
1:18:31Surgical debridement, they hose down.
1:18:33They go down far and they hose down. But
1:18:35uh the they
1:18:37the tech guy said you know, who's
1:18:39checking you in or whatever.
1:18:41He says, [clears throat]
1:18:42"They still haven't taken all my
1:18:43medication out." And I said, "No, I'm
1:18:45not on any med." And I've got a list
1:18:47like this. You know, and and he's I
1:18:50said, "No, I'm off of all I'm" He goes,
1:18:52"Okay, so you're on zero medication?"
1:18:55Mhm. And I said, "Yes, zero." And he
1:18:57looked at me. He said,
1:18:59"How is that possible with your list of
1:19:01illnesses?" And I said, "I'm carnivore."
1:19:03Mhm.
1:19:04>> And and he said, "Oh, that's so cool."
1:19:06He said, "So's the doctor." Oh, hey.
1:19:09Nice.
1:19:10First one I come across my hand at my
1:19:12hand surgeon. And he said, "And some of
1:19:16us are really close." I said, "Yes." And
1:19:18I said I also strength train. He said,
1:19:21"So does he."
1:19:22So he came he came in and the guy said
1:19:25to him, "She's carnivore and she lifts
1:19:27weights."
1:19:29And I said, "Yes, and I'm also I'm also
1:19:3071." He says, "Way to go. It's pretty
1:19:33awesome stuff, isn't it?" So he's got a
1:19:35whole bunch of people in his office
1:19:37following the same.
1:19:39And that was like my brightest glimmer
1:19:41of hope that, you know, finally a doctor
1:19:44who gets it. He goes, "It's really
1:19:46powerful stuff, isn't it?" And I said,
1:19:47"Yes."
1:19:48Yeah. Oh, that's good. Did Yeah.
1:19:51>> with your other, you know, Parkinson's
1:19:53doctors and your rheumatoid arthritis
1:19:55doctors, all these other people, did
1:19:56they
1:19:57I mean, have you followed up with them
1:19:58since? I mean, have they have they
1:20:00understood that this is an actual
1:20:02reversal of your condition?
1:20:04No, I probably should, but no, you know,
1:20:06I I got tired of hearing plant-based,
1:20:09you shouldn't be eating like that. I
1:20:10just And and you can't stop the
1:20:13medication. I got off of all those
1:20:16medications on my own except for the
1:20:18asthma one where he said I was taking
1:20:20Breo Ellipta, which is a steroid
1:20:22inhaler. And um he said, "Just stop
1:20:25taking it." 3 years ago, every other
1:20:28every other medication I had to do it on
1:20:30my own. They didn't They just didn't
1:20:32want to hear it.
1:20:33You know, they didn't want to They just
1:20:34said, "You're not You It's going to come
1:20:37back and you can't afford for it to come
1:20:39back after what you've been through. You
1:20:41need to be on it." Uh
1:20:43the antibiotics
1:20:45he literally said, "I I don't want to
1:20:48talk about it. Everybody Um everybody
1:20:51thinks" He was the head of infectious
1:20:54disease.
1:20:55He said, "Everybody concurs that it was
1:20:58so bad, so
1:21:00seated so long that um I mean, it
1:21:04probably come back in 30 days and you're
1:21:05not going to make another run of this.
1:21:07You're not going to come through it."
1:21:09Um and I said,
1:21:11"I've been off of it for 45." Mhm. I
1:21:15took myself off and and he And his
1:21:17attitude was, "Okay.
1:21:19All right. So give me a call if you feel
1:21:21sick again."
1:21:22That was literally what he said to me
1:21:24and I And I haven't You know, I haven't
1:21:26gone back. He didn't want to hear
1:21:27anything. What did you do? Plus the fact
1:21:30is is and I do want you to look at that
1:21:31picture on my thing cuz you won't
1:21:33believe it when you see it. Uh on my pin
1:21:36page of how I mean, I'm gone. You This
1:21:39is a woman with dementia happening. This
1:21:41is a woman who is totally lost. I mean,
1:21:44I'm literally a stone face. And um you
1:21:48know, they just they just didn't want to
1:21:50hear it. They're not curious. Um Yeah.
1:21:54Well, I mean,
1:21:54>> Uh which is which is sad and um
1:21:58and unnerving at the same time because
1:22:01as doctors I think we think that they
1:22:03would be absolutely fascinated.
1:22:06Yeah.
1:22:07Well, I mean, I can I can understand
1:22:08their concern because I mean, they've
1:22:10never seen that going that direction.
1:22:12They're just like, "Look, if you don't
1:22:13do this, this is going to happen." And
1:22:15for the
1:22:15the majority of the population
1:22:17that's exactly right, but you know, I
1:22:19mean, that that's sort of like to me um
1:22:22a good reason to go back now and walk in
1:22:24there looking like a whole different
1:22:26person be like, "Hey, remember me?"
1:22:28Yeah, I may I may just do that.
1:22:30>> is it. Like you guys Yeah, and and um
1:22:33you know, just just just show them. You
1:22:36know, it's it's sort of I mean, it's
1:22:37it's different, but um there was a there
1:22:39was a patient It was before I was in the
1:22:40department, but I was told about it that
1:22:43you know, we we look at we look at
1:22:44patients that have um
1:22:46uh you know, very serious neurological
1:22:49injuries from surgeries or infections or
1:22:51or injuries or whatever. And there was a
1:22:54a lady and she had um you know, bad
1:22:56tumor tumor, I believe, and she had
1:22:58surgery and it and it
1:23:00did not have a good outcome and she was
1:23:03maybe she had a bleed and and um
1:23:06something anyway. So she had some sort
1:23:07of injury. She had surgery.
1:23:09Didn't didn't was not recovering well.
1:23:11She was very very poor neurologically.
1:23:14And the the um you know, that the the
1:23:17departments and the the the the leading
1:23:20attending called called the consultant
1:23:21here.
1:23:22Um you know, it was just like this this
1:23:24is this isn't going to work. This person
1:23:26This lady's not going to survive. She
1:23:28she's brain dead. She's not going to
1:23:29regain function. And um
1:23:32and you know, the the department agreed
1:23:34and all these sorts of things, but the
1:23:36husband just refused. They absolutely
1:23:38not. You're not You are not pulling the
1:23:40plug on my wife. You're going to keep
1:23:41treating her. And eventually it came to
1:23:43the point where like, "Look, I mean,
1:23:44it's a public health health care system.
1:23:47You know, it's not really up to the
1:23:48patient what happens, you know, if
1:23:50they're not paying for it." And so they
1:23:52said, "Listen, um we're we're we're not
1:23:54able to keep going. Like everybody
1:23:56thinks that this is not going to work
1:23:57out. So we're we are going to pull
1:24:00treatment." He said, "Okay. Fine.
1:24:02Discharge her. Send her home to me and
1:24:05I'll take care of her if you people
1:24:06won't." And so he had the money, so he
1:24:08could afford it and he set up basically
1:24:10an ICU in his home in the bedroom and
1:24:12had a hospital bed and and all the you
1:24:15know, they had nursing care come in and
1:24:16all that sort of stuff.
1:24:18And um
1:24:20nine nine months to a year later
1:24:23um he comes walking into the to the
1:24:27follow-up clinic
1:24:29with her
1:24:30for their follow-up and she walks in and
1:24:33she's speaking and she's
1:24:36you know, has has you know, weathered
1:24:38some some some hits from that that
1:24:40experience, but
1:24:42he was just like I mean, from the
1:24:44accounts I wasn't there, but apparently
1:24:46he was just so just
1:24:49pumpkin grin, you know, just like, "I
1:24:52told you guys you were wrong. You tried
1:24:54to kill my wife, you people." And he
1:24:56just The entire appointment was just him
1:24:58laying into the team about how, you
1:25:01know, they they messed up. And and they
1:25:04just had to sit there. They're like,
1:25:06"Yeah, I'm I'm really sorry that
1:25:07happened. Yeah, okay." You know?
1:25:09And um
1:25:10you know, and so you know, at the time
1:25:12they were making the best decision that
1:25:13they thought that they thought they
1:25:14could.
1:25:15Um but they were wrong in that instance.
1:25:17And you know, in 99 other times they
1:25:19probably would have been right. You
1:25:21know, but thankfully that guy was able
1:25:23to to back his his own uh decision and
1:25:25and came up. But but I I think that's
1:25:27important to see as well. It's important
1:25:29to see that hey, there are exceptions
1:25:31and you need to be careful and you need
1:25:32to look at other sorts of things. And
1:25:33why did she survive and why didn't don't
1:25:35others? And and same for you. You know,
1:25:38they're saying like, "Hey, you're you're
1:25:39going to be toast. Rheumatoid arthritis
1:25:41doesn't get better. And you can't come
1:25:43off your medications. You know,
1:25:44Parkinson's doesn't just reverse. You
1:25:46can't You can't do that." Um and showing
1:25:50them that it can is
1:25:52would hopefully be very powerful and say
1:25:55like, "Listen, you you guys need to look
1:25:57into this. There's actually a lot more
1:25:59information here than you than you
1:26:00realize. And this this works and it
1:26:02worked for me and I'm not a fluke. I'm
1:26:05there there are
1:26:06hundreds of thousands of people in my
1:26:07exact situation that have done this and
1:26:10are continuing to do this and this is
1:26:11this is important for you to look into
1:26:14so you can help other people as well.
1:26:16So, you know, think about it because it
1:26:18it could it could make a lot of
1:26:19changes." Yeah, um and and I probably
1:26:22will because, you know, I do PWR moves.
1:26:25I'm certified to teach it anywhere. Uh
1:26:27and so I I will
1:26:31I've got a couple other commitments
1:26:33right now. I'm going to take it to all
1:26:35the neurologists in the movement
1:26:36disorder including them and present
1:26:38because they look for resources because
1:26:41we know we know fitness has a huge
1:26:43impact in neuroplasticity.
1:26:46Um so that's my into them. So yes, I I
1:26:49will definitely be
1:26:51at some point before September will be
1:26:54back to them including my physician.
1:26:56Great. Well, I'm I'm glad glad to hear
1:26:58it. And look forward to hear hear how
1:27:00that those conversations go.
1:27:02Um
1:27:03Mimi, thank you so much. I really
1:27:04appreciate you taking the time. I know
1:27:06it's it's a difficult to sort schedule
1:27:09this follow-up, but it was great to see
1:27:10you again. I'm so glad to hear that
1:27:11you're doing so well and helping so many
1:27:13other people along the way as well.
1:27:15Well, thank you for having me. It was a
1:27:17pleasure. Absolutely. Thank you all for
1:27:19joining. Please do leave a comment. Tell
1:27:21us what you think and if you
1:27:23know anybody who would benefit from
1:27:25this, please like a doctor or a
1:27:26neurologist, please do send this on to
1:27:28them. Thank you very much. We'll see you
1:27:30next time.
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