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0:00[Music]
0:00[Applause]
0:06you
0:12Seth speaks the eternal validity of the
0:16soul by Jane Roberts read by Martin John
0:22continuation part 1 chapter 5
0:26how thoughts form matter coordination
0:30points give us a moment
0:34chapter 5 as you read the words upon
0:38this page you realize that the
0:41information that you are receiving is
0:44not an attribute of the letters of the
0:47words themselves the printed line does
0:51not contain information it transmits
0:55information where is the information
0:59that is being transmitted then if it is
1:03not upon the page the same question of
1:08course applies when you read a newspaper
1:10and when you speak to another person
1:14your actual words convey information
1:17feelings or thoughts
1:20obviously the thoughts or the feelings
1:23and the words are not the same thing the
1:27letters upon the page are symbols and
1:30you have agreed upon various meanings
1:33connected with them
1:35you take it for granted without even
1:38thinking of it that the symbols the
1:41letters are not the reality the
1:43information or thoughts which they
1:46attempt to convey now in the same way I
1:51am telling you that objects are also
1:54symbols that stand for reality whose
1:57meaning the objects like the letters
2:00transmit the true information is not in
2:04the objects anymore then the thought is
2:08in the letters or in words words are
2:13methods of expression so are physical
2:17objects in a different kind of medium
2:20you are used to the idea that you
2:23express yourselves direct
2:25léa through words you can hear yourself
2:29speak them you can feel the muscles in
2:33your throat move and if you are aware
2:36you can perceive multitudinous reactions
2:40within your own body actions that all
2:44accompany your speech physical objects
2:49are the result of another kind of
2:52expression you create them as surely as
2:56you create words I do not mean that you
3:00create them with your hands alone or
3:05through manufacture I mean that objects
3:09are natural byproducts of the evolution
3:13of your species even as words are
3:17examine for a moment your knowledge of
3:21your own speech however though you hear
3:25the words and recognize their
3:29appropriateness and though they may more
3:32or less approximate an expression of
3:35your feeling they are not your feeling
3:38and there must be a gap between your
3:42thought and your expression of it the
3:46familiarity of speech begins to vanish
3:49when you realize that you yourself when
3:53you begin a sentence do not know
3:55precisely how you will end it or even
3:59how you form the words you do not
4:03consciously know how you manipulate a
4:06staggering pyramid of symbols picking
4:09from them precisely those you need to
4:13express a given thought for that matter
4:16you do not know how you think you do not
4:20know how you translate these symbols
4:23upon this page into thoughts and then
4:26store them or make them your own
4:29since the mechanisms of normal speech
4:31are so little known to you on a
4:34conscious level then it is not
4:36surprising that you are equal
4:38unaware of more complicated tasks that
4:42you also perform such as the constant
4:45creation of your physical environment as
4:48a method of communication and expression
4:51it is only from this viewpoint that the
4:55true nature of physical matter can be
4:57understood it is only by comprehending
5:01the nature of this constant translation
5:04of thoughts and desires not into words
5:08now but into physical objects that you
5:12can realize your true independence from
5:16circumstance time and environment
5:19now you may take a break smile a note I
5:26am very pleased I am pleased with the
5:30beginning of my chapter for I think I
5:33have hit upon an analogy and a true one
5:36that will release the reader from the
5:39artificial bondage of physical form when
5:43he sees it as a method of his own
5:46expression he will realize his own
5:49creative Annis now it is easy to see
5:57that you translate feelings into words
6:00or bodily expressions and gestures but
6:04not quite as easy to realize that you
6:07form your physical body as effortlessly
6:11and unselfish self-consciously
6:15as you translate feelings into symbols
6:18that become words you have heard the
6:23expression before I am sure that the
6:26environment expresses a particular
6:29individual personality I'm telling you
6:32that this is a literal and not symbolic
6:37truth the letters upon the page have the
6:42reality only of ink and paper the
6:45information they convey is invisible as
6:49an object this book itself is on
6:52paper and ink it is a carrier of
6:56information you may perhaps argue that
7:00the book was manufactured physically and
7:03did not suddenly erupt through Rupert's
7:06skull already printed and bound you in
7:10turn had to borrow or purchase the book
7:13so you may think surely I did not create
7:17the book as I created my words but
7:21before we are finished we will see that
7:24basically speaking each of you create
7:27the book you hold in your hands and that
7:31your entire physical environment comes
7:34as naturally out of your inner mind as
7:37words come out of your mouths and that
7:42man forms physical objects as
7:45unselfconsciously and as automatically
7:49as he forms his own breath end of
7:53dictation for this evening
7:55smile session 524 April 20 1979 18 p.m.
8:05Monday the peculiar particular aspects
8:10of your physical world are dependent
8:13upon your existence and focus within it
8:16the physical universe does not contain
8:20physical objects of solidity width and
8:23depth for example to those who existence
8:27is not within it other kinds of
8:30consciousness coexist within the same
8:33space that your world inhabits they do
8:38not perceive your physical objects for
8:41their reality is composed of a different
8:44camouflage structure you do not perceive
8:48them and generally speaking they do not
8:51perceive you this is a general statement
8:55however for various points of your
8:59realities can and do coincide so to
9:03speak these points are
9:06recognized as such but they are points
9:10of what you would call double reality
9:14containing great energy potential
9:17coordinate points indeed where realities
9:20merge there are main coordinate points
9:25peer mathematically sources of fantastic
9:29energy and subordinate coordinate points
9:33vast in number there are four absolute
9:39coordinate points that intersect all
9:41realities these coordinate points also
9:45act as channels through which energy
9:48flows and as warps or invisible paths
9:53from one reality to another they also
9:57act as transformers and provide much of
10:01the generating energy that makes
10:04creation continuous in your terms your
10:09space is filled with these sub ordinate
10:13points and as you will see later these
10:16are important in allowing you to
10:19transform thoughts and emotions into
10:22physical matter when a thought or
10:25emotion attains a certain intensity it
10:28automatically attracts the power of one
10:32of these subordinate points and is
10:35therefore highly charged and in one way
10:38magnified though not in size these
10:43points impinge upon what you call time
10:46as well as space there are certain
10:50points in time and space therefore again
10:54in your terms that are more conductive
10:58than others where both ideas and matters
11:01will be more highly charged practically
11:05speaking this means that buildings will
11:09last longer in your context that ideas
11:13wedded to form will be relatively
11:16eternal the pyramids for
11:19example are a case in point these
11:22coordinate points absolute main or
11:25subordinate represent accumulations or
11:29traces of pure energy my newt to an
11:33extreme if you are thinking in terms of
11:35size smaller than any particle of which
11:39your scientists know for example but
11:42composed of pure energy and yet this
11:45energy must be activated it is dormant
11:49until then and it cannot be activated
11:52physically a few clues here that might
11:57help you or mathematicians there is an
12:02ever so minut alteration of gravity
12:06forces in the neighborhood of all these
12:09points even of the subordinate ones and
12:13all the so-called physical laws to some
12:17extent or another will be found to have
12:20a wavering effect in these neighborhoods
12:24the subordinate points also serve in a
12:28way as supports as structural
12:32intensification x' within the unseen
12:36fabric of energy that forms all
12:39realities and manifestations while they
12:43are traces or accumulations of pure
12:46energy there is a great difference
12:48between the amount of energy available
12:50in the various subordinate points and
12:53between the main and the absolute points
12:56you may take your break these are points
13:04therefore of concentrated energy the
13:08subordinate points are far more common
13:11and practically as speaking affect your
13:14daily concerns there are better places
13:17and others to build houses or structures
13:22points where health and vitality are
13:26strengthened where other things being
13:29equal plants will
13:31grow and flourish and we're all
13:34beneficial conditions seem to meet some
13:38people can sense such neighborhoods
13:41instinctively
13:42they occur within certain angles made by
13:45coordinate points the points obviously
13:49are not themselves physical that is they
13:53are not visible though they may be
13:56mathematically deduced they are felt
14:00however as intensified energy in a given
14:05room plants will grow more effectively
14:09in a particular area than in other areas
14:12providing that both areas contain such
14:15necessary requirements as light all of
14:18your space is permeated by these
14:21coordination points so that certain
14:24invisible angles are formed this is
14:29highly simplified but some angles will
14:32be more on the outskirts than others and
14:37will be less favorable for all
14:39conditions of growth and activity in
14:42speaking of these angles we will treat
14:45them as three-dimensional though they
14:48are of course multi-dimensional since
14:51the nature of these angles is not the
14:53main topic of my book it is not possible
14:56to explain them thoroughly here they
15:00will seem to be stronger during certain
15:02times than other times though these
15:06differences have nothing to do with
15:09either the nature of coordinate points
15:12or with the nature of time other
15:15elements affect them but we need not be
15:18concerned with fees now the concentrated
15:23energy points are activated by emotional
15:26intensities that are well within your
15:29normal range your own emotions or
15:32feelings will activate these coordinates
15:36whether you know of them or not greater
15:40energy will therefore be added to the
15:42original thought or fee
15:44and it's projection into physical matter
15:48accelerated now this applies regardless
15:51of the nature of the feeling only its
15:55intensity is involved here these points
15:59are like invisible power plants in other
16:03words activated when any emotional
16:06feeling or thought of sufficient
16:08intensity comes into contact the points
16:11themselves intensify whatever activates
16:14them in a quite neutral manner we are
16:19rather slow with this material since it
16:22is new but mainly because I would like
16:25it translated into as precise terms as
16:29possible and without a scientific
16:32background on Rupert's part I must use
16:35ingenuity you may take a break this is
16:42highly simplified but the subjective
16:44experience of any consciousness is
16:47automatically expressed as
16:49electromagnetic energy units these exist
16:53beneath the range of physical matter
16:56they are if you prefer incident
17:00particles that have not yet emerged into
17:04matter these units are natural
17:06emanations from all kinds of
17:09consciousness they are the invisible
17:12formations resulting from reaction to
17:16any kind of stimuli they very seldom
17:19exists in isolation but unite under
17:23certain laws they change both their form
17:28and their pulsation their relative
17:31duration depends upon the original
17:34intensity behind them that is behind the
17:37original thought emotion stimuli or
17:41reaction that brought them into being
17:45again highly simplified here under
17:48certain conditions those coagulate into
17:51matter those electromagnetic units of
17:56high enough
17:58intensity automatically activate the
18:00subordinate coordinate points of which I
18:03have spoken they are therefore
18:06accelerating and propelled into matter
18:09far more quickly in your terms than
18:13units of lesser intensity molecules
18:17would appear as large as planets to
18:21these units atoms and molecules and
18:25planets and these electromagnetic energy
18:27units are simply different
18:30manifestations of the same principles
18:33that bring the units themselves into
18:36being it is only your relative position
18:39your focus within an apparent space and
18:43time that makes this seem so unlikely
18:47each thought or motion therefore exists
18:51as an electromagnetic energy unit or as
18:55a combination of these under certain
18:58conditions and often with the help of
19:02coordinate points they emerge into the
19:05building blocks of physical matter this
19:08emergence into matter occurs as a
19:11neutral result regardless of the nature
19:15of any given thought or motion mental
19:19images accompanied by strong emotion are
19:23blueprints therefore upon which a
19:26corresponding physical object or
19:29condition or event will in your terms
19:33appear end of dictation do you have any
19:37questions we are doing very well with
19:40our chapter 5 my heartiest regards and a
19:44fond good evening session 525 April 22
19:511979 14 p.m. Wednesday the intensity of
19:57a feeling or thought or mental image is
20:00therefore the important element in
20:03determining its subsequent physical
20:07materialization the intensity is the
20:10core
20:11about which the electromagnetic energy
20:13units form in your terms the more
20:17intense the core the sooner the physical
20:21materialization this would apply whether
20:24in the mental image was a fearful one or
20:27a joyful one now there is a very
20:30important problem here if your turn of
20:33mind is highly intense and you think in
20:37vivid mental emotional images these will
20:41be swiftly formed into physical events
20:44if you are also of a highly pessimistic
20:49nature given two thoughts and feelings
20:53of potential disaster then these
20:56thoughts will be quite faithfully
20:58reproduced in experience the more
21:03intense your imagination and inner
21:06experience therefore the more important
21:09it is that you realize the methods by
21:12which this inner experience becomes
21:15physically real your thoughts and
21:18emotions begin their journey into
21:21physical actualization at the moment of
21:25conception if you happen to live in an
21:28area where the coordinate environment is
21:31strong one of those areas have spoken of
21:34as usually conductive then it will seem
21:38that you are deluged by illnesses or
21:41disasters if these are the nature of
21:45your thoughts because all thought is so
21:48fertile in this environment if on the
21:52other hand your feelings and subjective
21:55experience are fairly well balanced
21:57fairly optimistic and creative in a
22:01constructive manner then it will seem to
22:04you that you have been blessed with
22:06unusual luck for your pleasant
22:10suppositions will come to pass so
22:13quickly briefly in your own country the
22:18West Coast portions of the East Coast
22:21Utah the Great Lakes
22:24the Chicago area Minneapolis area and
22:28some other southwestern areas are in
22:32those neighborhoods of excellent
22:34coordinate activity for the reasons
22:37given materialisation will quickly
22:41appear and potentials
22:43therefore for both constructive and
22:46destructive elements are high give us a
22:51moment these coordinate points
22:55themselves activate the behavior of
22:58atoms and molecules as say for example
23:03the Sun aids the growth of plants the
23:08coordinates activate the generating
23:10behaviour of atoms and molecules and
23:13greatly encourage their cooperative
23:16abilities their tendency to swarm so to
23:21speak into organizations and structural
23:25groupings the coordinate points magnify
23:30or intensify the behavior the latent
23:34spontaneity inherent within the
23:38properties of physical matter
23:41they act as psychic generators
23:45propelling what is not yet physical into
23:49physical form
23:51now you may take your break this is not
23:55to be a technical book so this is not
23:59the time nor place to discuss thoroughly
24:02the action behavior or effects of these
24:06coordinate points nor of the
24:10electromagnetic energy units those
24:13natural man CA shion's of consciousness
24:17with which I spoke I wanted known
24:20however that thoughts and emotions are
24:24formed into physical matter by very
24:26definite methods and through laws quite
24:30valid though they may be presently
24:34unknown
24:35in other portions of the Seth material
24:39these processes will be made very clear
24:42for those of you who desire to pursue
24:45the question further or those who may be
24:49interested from a scientific point of
24:52view here we are discussing such issues
24:56only because they touch upon the
24:59multi-dimensional aspect of personality
25:02they allow you to materialize certain
25:05subjective experiences into
25:08three-dimensional reality before I leave
25:11the subject however let me remind you
25:15that these immense ations in varying
25:18degrees rise from all consciousness not
25:23simply around this includes cellular
25:26consciousness as well so that an
25:29invisible network of electromagnetic
25:32units pervades your entire atmosphere
25:35and upon this WebWork and from it the
25:40particles of physical matter are then
25:42formed a whole book could easily be
25:47written upon this subject information
25:50regarding the locations of main and
25:54absolute coordinate points could be
25:57highly advantageous for example you
26:00pride yourself on your technology and
26:03the production of durable goods
26:06buildings and roads yet many of these
26:09are insignificant when compared to other
26:13structures within the past a true
26:18understanding of the wind which an idea
26:21becomes physical matter would result in
26:24a complete revamping of your so-called
26:27modern technology and in buildings roads
26:32and other structures that would far
26:34outlast those you now have while the
26:39psychic reality behind physical matter
26:42is ignored then you cannot use those
26:46methods effectively
26:48do exist nor can you take advantage of
26:51them you cannot understand the psychic
26:55reality that is the true impetus of your
26:59physical existence unless you first
27:03realize your own psychic reality and
27:06independence from physical laws my first
27:11purpose therefore is to make you aware
27:14of the inner identity of which you are
27:17part and to clear away some of the
27:21intellectual and superstitious Tabriz
27:25that prevents you from recognizing your
27:28own potentialities and freedom then
27:32perhaps you can begin to learn the many
27:34ways in which that freedom can be used
27:38that is the end of dictation it may well
27:42be the end of chapter 5 peace light and
27:46love alone
27:47[Music]

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