Session 1 AI and Writing Fall 2026 — Transcript
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- 0:00If you're late, you can also review or
- 0:03um catch up as well. Are you able to see
- 0:05my screen? Okay.
- 0:07>> Yep.
- 0:08>> Thank you.
- 0:12>> Perfect. So, welcome everybody to our
- 0:15first session of AI and writing. You
- 0:18have two facilitators for this course.
- 0:22We are joined by Dr. Bill Hunter.
- 0:26He's here in our room and I am your
- 0:29instructor for AI and based learning
- 0:32technology. So I've met many of you
- 0:34before. I do see some new faces here. So
- 0:36welcome if you are new to the program.
- 0:39Um AI in writing is the third course in
- 0:43our program. But if you are taking this
- 0:45as your first course and you are
- 0:47considering taking other courses in this
- 0:49program, you can um take the uh
- 0:54simulation next and then the AI based
- 0:57learning technologies and ethics in the
- 0:59winter and that can help you earn that
- 1:02certificate. So you don't need to
- 1:03complete it in the same cohort. If
- 1:06you're new and you want to take the
- 1:07other uh courses within this program,
- 1:10you can take that um off track.
- 1:15Okay. So, again, my name is Joyce and
- 1:18I'll give you a little tour of um
- 1:21Canvas. I do want to make sure that
- 1:23we're all connected as well.
- 1:27Before we get started, we'll start with
- 1:29a land acknowledgement. We respectfully
- 1:32acknowledge that this course is hosted
- 1:34from the traditional and treaty
- 1:36territories of indigenous people,
- 1:37including the lands of the Missagas of
- 1:40Skugog Island First Nation within the
- 1:42Williams Treaty's territory.
- 1:45As we explore AI and writing, we honor
- 1:48indigenous teachings and storytelling,
- 1:50stewardship, and the responsible sharing
- 1:52of knowledge. We commit to fostering
- 1:55respect, reciprocity, accountability,
- 1:58and ethical engagement in our learning
- 2:00community. We encourage all participants
- 2:03to deepen their understanding and take
- 2:06meaningful actions in in support of
- 2:08indigenous communities. To learn more
- 2:11about the Missagas of Skugog Island
- 2:13First Nation, please visit the Missagas
- 2:15of Skoo Skugog Island First Nation link
- 2:18here. and that's um
- 2:21uh on the gamma website you have access
- 2:25to that module one. Uh thank you for
- 2:27joining in this commitment toward
- 2:29responsible and respectful learning.
- 2:33Okay. So if you're just joining for the
- 2:35first time, I do make these slides
- 2:38available to you to follow in canvas.
- 2:41You can access this through the modules
- 2:45and then it's the first one. So, it's
- 2:48presentation one, gamma session one.
- 2:52Okay. So, I did send out an announcement
- 2:54over the weekend, a survey, and this one
- 2:56only will only take a couple of minutes
- 2:58for you to complete, but it will give us
- 3:00it'll give Bill and I some information
- 3:02to make sure that we're meeting your
- 3:04goals and we're helping you achieve what
- 3:07you came here to learn. So, take a few
- 3:09minutes and click on that link to
- 3:11complete the survey if you have not yet.
- 3:17And I did ask this before uh class
- 3:20started, but are there any students here
- 3:24that do not have access to Canvas?
- 3:30You're all okay?
- 3:31>> Yep.
- 3:32>> Okay. So, if you do not have access,
- 3:34just send uh continuous learning at
- 3:37ontarot.ca
- 3:39a message and they can help you gain
- 3:42access.
- 3:46Okay, so our agenda has a few fun
- 3:48activities today. I first want to just
- 3:52explore the learning outcomes. They are
- 3:54listed in your course outline. So today
- 3:57we'll identify and apply various AI
- 4:00tools for writing. That'll be in the
- 4:02second half. So I'll I'll demonstrate a
- 4:06few different AI tools. Maybe you might
- 4:08have tried them already and then explore
- 4:10some of those so that you have um some
- 4:13knowledge behind how some tools are
- 4:16better for different writing needs. So
- 4:19is your need for research or is it for
- 4:21edit editing etc.
- 4:24Organize content efficiently using AI.
- 4:27Compose and edit documents with AI
- 4:29assistance and then critically evaluate
- 4:31and revise test text using AI
- 4:34technologies.
- 4:36Okay. So, I'm just going to exit out of
- 4:39here quickly so that I can give you a
- 4:41canvas tour.
- 5:18Can you see my canvas screen? Has that
- 5:20populated yet? Okay, excellent. So,
- 5:24homepage, this is what you should see.
- 5:29And this will just give you information
- 5:30about the course. We're on Wednesdays at
- 5:326:00 p.m. Eastern time. So, as I
- 5:36mentioned before, one of one of my hacks
- 5:38for keeping track of world time is using
- 5:41uh the weather app. You can save uh
- 5:44different location so that you have a
- 5:45current time. Um announcements. So, make
- 5:48sure you're checking your announcements.
- 5:50Uh I will post the um any any type of
- 5:55announcements. Bill will post
- 5:56announcements here as well as uh and
- 5:59I'll add uh the YouTubes as well for the
- 6:03recordings.
- 6:08The modules have three different weeks
- 6:10as well as the X files. These are really
- 6:13great resources and references for you.
- 6:16Um, there's no test. We do have the
- 6:19capstone assignment, but these are used
- 6:22for reference for you and as tools to
- 6:26help you with your AI and writing
- 6:29practice.
- 6:31Okay, there's a lot of information
- 6:33there. So just make sure that perhaps
- 6:35you download it or um save it somewhere
- 6:40for future.
- 6:41>> We'd also encourage you to use those
- 6:43resources in framing your responses to
- 6:46the discussion questions which we'll
- 6:48come to shortly.
- 6:51>> Yes. So the discussions as well, we'll
- 6:54have three different discussions uh
- 6:56weekly discussions that will be required
- 6:58for you to complete to earn the credit
- 7:02for this course. That's a pass and fail
- 7:03course. So the requirement is your
- 7:07discussion post. So we do have the first
- 7:09discussion post here with reintroduce
- 7:11yourself to your future self. Thank you
- 7:13Tanya for participating in that already.
- 7:17And we'll have a breakout activity a
- 7:21group breakout activity for today's
- 7:23session as well where I'll populate the
- 7:27discussion post that will be a
- 7:28collaborative discussion post.
- 7:33Okay.
- 7:34And the assignment. So for the capstone
- 7:38project and this is something that you
- 7:40can think about now as you're starting
- 7:45this first session. So the capstone
- 7:48project is an acceptable capstone
- 7:51project is a requirement to have this
- 7:53course included in the work for the
- 7:55certificate. The capstone is marked not
- 7:58marked in the usual sense but the
- 7:59instructors will provide individual
- 8:01feedback to the authors of each capstone
- 8:04project. So similar to the um AI based
- 8:09learning technologies course we have two
- 8:12different options for you as a capstone
- 8:16uh option. So there are sample papers
- 8:19that are provided for you. So the first
- 8:21one did you want to say something Bill?
- 8:24Nope.
- 8:25>> Okay. So, the first one is option one, a
- 8:29report on an innovative practice to
- 8:32complete this assignment. Use an AI tool
- 8:34like chat GPT etc. to assist in a
- 8:37writing in writing a paper about
- 8:39something you do in your professional
- 8:41practice. In writing the paper, use the
- 8:44framework for the writing process
- 8:46described in the course. Bill's going to
- 8:48go through that today. And there's also
- 8:51um the article that he wrote that's in
- 8:53module one
- 8:55um which is generate organize compose
- 8:58and revise. A major part of the paper
- 9:01should be an explanation of how AI
- 9:04contributed. Okay. So these are your
- 9:06main topics to include in the first part
- 9:10and this is a writing assignment.
- 9:12There's also a sample provided here, an
- 9:16exemplar.
- 9:22Okay, let me get back to that screen.
- 9:36>> Are you sharing your screen?
- 9:39What do you see? I just see the class. I
- 9:42don't see anything.
- 9:45>> I do see a a document.
- 9:48>> Yes, I'm sharing a document. It says
- 9:50sample capstone for option one.
- 9:52>> Okay. Maybe I'll have to go to a
- 9:54different window.
- 9:56>> Darlene, if you check your view your
- 10:00>> Yeah, that's view screen. Yes.
- 10:04>> Thanks. Sorry.
- 10:05>> You're welcome. Okay. And let me just
- 10:07stop sharing this to get back to
- 10:15get back to the capstone.
- 10:18Okay, so that's option one
- 10:23share
- 10:28and then option two an academic paper.
- 10:32So the academic paper is uh similar. Use
- 10:36a tool like chat GPT, Gemini
- 10:39etc. Copilot whatever tool you have
- 10:42access to
- 10:45to assist in writing a paper which you
- 10:47critically review an article in research
- 10:49journal or professional magazine. The
- 10:52article you review may be on a topic but
- 10:54choosing something in educational
- 10:56research or practice would likely be
- 10:58would likely make the task more
- 11:00manageable. There's also another sample
- 11:02there you can click as an exemplar
- 11:08and in session three you will
- 11:13prepare a small presentation of your
- 11:17project so far. So whatever you've
- 11:20researched for um whatever you've chosen
- 11:23option one or two you'll prepare a 5 to
- 11:267 minute presentation that sum
- 11:28summarizes the findings and your future
- 11:31recommendations.
- 11:33You'll present to your peers in a small
- 11:36group and then the peers you'll be
- 11:39prepared to ask questions and provide
- 11:41feedback as well.
- 11:44This will be on the last um Wednesday
- 11:48that that will be due. Uh sorry, you'll
- 11:51be presenting on Wednesday, November
- 11:5318th. So, you have 5 to 7 minutes, but
- 11:57your capstone project will be due in
- 12:00Canvas, the writeup on November 22nd.
- 12:05Okay? So, it doesn't need to be fully
- 12:07done by the presentation, but it does
- 12:10need to be done by uh November 22nd,
- 12:14which is a Sunday. So, you can use the
- 12:16presentation date as a time to either
- 12:19present your findings or ask your peers
- 12:21questions if you need help or um if they
- 12:25have any suggestions.
- 12:31Okay. Are there any questions?
- 12:40some good ideas for the capstone so far.
- 12:43>> Go ahead, Bill.
- 12:45>> Let me just uh explain a bit why we have
- 12:48options on the assignment. Most of the
- 12:49people who take this course or the these
- 12:52courses in the certificate are in
- 12:55professional positions. They're teaching
- 12:57in schools, they're teaching in
- 12:59colleges, universities, they're working
- 13:01in health settings, whatever.
- 13:04uh and for most of those people that
- 13:06first option lets them focus the work on
- 13:10something that is directly related to
- 13:13their work. Uh however we do get some
- 13:16students who who take this course while
- 13:18they are still either undergraduate or
- 13:21graduate students and for them it might
- 13:24be more useful uh to be able to have a
- 13:28focus on something that would be an
- 13:30academic paper. So, we want to give that
- 13:32option to people who want it. Uh, but we
- 13:36certainly don't
- 13:37uh see we don't have a preference for
- 13:39which one of those two things you do.
- 13:41It's it's what fits your needs um that
- 13:44we we're trying to address.
- 13:49>> Thank you, Bill. And let me know if you
- 13:51have any questions about that uh
- 13:53capstone. I I do like to brainstorm some
- 13:56ideas or feel free to use AI as a tool
- 14:01to help you with the first step to
- 14:03generate ideas as well.
- 14:07Okay. So, let's move on. Let's talk
- 14:10about the writing process. This is uh
- 14:14this link has uh a TED talk. It's a it's
- 14:18a podcast that links to a Sher Turkl
- 14:21interview. And she says something. She
- 14:23says, "Even those of us who couldn't
- 14:25write very good love letters summoned
- 14:28ourselves in a certain kind of special
- 14:31way that we wrote a love letter and the
- 14:33love letter was not just about what was
- 14:35on paper. It was about what we had done
- 14:39to ourselves in the process of writing
- 14:41it." And that's something that is being
- 14:44undermined by the use of technology,
- 14:46even if the final product is more
- 14:49pleasing.
- 14:51And I'm sharing this quote as
- 14:55just a thought in terms of the feeling
- 14:59of writing and what AI writing is. Now,
- 15:03I was we had some renovations done on
- 15:06our home and I was cleaning out some old
- 15:09paperwork and I found um some letters
- 15:12that were written to me in my teenage
- 15:14years during high school and they were
- 15:17letters from friends, some some old uh
- 15:20an old boyfriend and it was folded like
- 15:22in an origami style and I was looking at
- 15:24it like wow look at the effort that was
- 15:27made in like back in the day before we
- 15:30had all of this and I had something
- 15:32tangible that I actually still kept. And
- 15:35it was really neat to reflect and review
- 15:38that and how I felt when I had actually
- 15:41received that. It it all kind of came
- 15:44back to me, those emotions, those
- 15:45feelings. And I have a son now who's 15
- 15:48and he has a a girlfriend and he he
- 15:51talks to her on Snapchat where the
- 15:52messages disappear and they forget what
- 15:54they say to each other. And I think this
- 15:55is so different from the time that I was
- 15:59a youth and the way that communication
- 16:02or how they feel or what they're not
- 16:05feeling. Do they experience as deep as
- 16:09this if they're receiving disappearing
- 16:11messages or it's so um short or text
- 16:15messages are like BRB be right back like
- 16:18things are so shortened and um sometimes
- 16:22the feeling is taken out of the the
- 16:24emotion is taken out of the writing when
- 16:27you can ask chat GPT or an AI to simply
- 16:31compose something.
- 16:33And so it is an interesting podcast um
- 16:35to listen to and I do have this emotion
- 16:39when I think about when I'm using AI and
- 16:42writing and when you're and especially
- 16:45now if you're experiencing AI and
- 16:49writing like when you're seeing uh a
- 16:52menu for example and you can see that
- 16:54it's created by AI you kind of have a
- 16:57different feeling toward it like oh
- 17:00that could have been simpler or
- 17:03it's just and they have the term like AI
- 17:05slop.
- 17:07Why is it AI slop? Because it feels
- 17:09heartless. It feels like the human was
- 17:12taken out of it. So, how can we create
- 17:15work in our professional practice that
- 17:18feels authentic and human- centered so
- 17:22that the writing process still has the
- 17:28human at the heart and that's that's
- 17:31what I want to you to consider as you
- 17:34start to explore using AI and writing in
- 17:39this new hybrid format.
- 17:43Okay, let me share this screen. This is
- 17:46a framework for the writing process and
- 17:50this is from Bill and I've included as
- 17:54well in module one the full article so
- 17:57you're able to read that. My internet's
- 18:00just horribly slow today.
- 18:03Just give me a moment while this
- 18:04populates.
- 18:15Just one second.
- 18:18I'm going to stop my video. Hopefully
- 18:20this Oh, there we go.
- 18:29Scroll up to the first page.
- 18:47Okay,
- 18:50Bill, can you see that? Okay,
- 18:53>> I have to go back to the window. Hold
- 18:54on. I see it just fine. Yes.
- 18:57>> Okay. So, this is the framework for the
- 18:59writing process.
- 19:03Do you want to go on?
- 19:04>> Oh, you want me to take over? Okay,
- 19:06sure.
- 19:06>> Yes. Yes.
- 19:07>> I thought you were still just kind of
- 19:09doing an interview. So,
- 19:10>> oh, I was trying to share the screen.
- 19:13>> Okay. So, um a little background on this
- 19:17paper. This was written, [clears throat]
- 19:18the paper behind this presentation was
- 19:20written in 1992 by a group of graduate
- 19:23students who were working with me at
- 19:26that time. The whole idea of using any
- 19:29kind of computer word processing was
- 19:31novel. Uh and the uh the challenge was
- 19:37that the the software kept changing all
- 19:39the time which made it very difficult to
- 19:41keep up and make it useful and a lot of
- 19:43people were just extremely resistant to
- 19:46using technology for writing. Um there's
- 19:49a long history of that. We can go back
- 19:51to uh Socrates. Socrates did not like
- 19:56the idea of writing at all, let alone
- 19:59with a computer. Um he uh he he thought
- 20:03that uh it would interfere with memory.
- 20:06It would prevent us from having um the
- 20:09the emotional contact with the ideas
- 20:11that that Joyce Lynn was talking about
- 20:13just a moment ago.
- 20:15um he thought it might have some uses
- 20:18for like oh accountants or bureaucrats
- 20:22or something like that but but not for
- 20:24students who are learning that's that's
- 20:26just inappropriate. Now the interesting
- 20:29thing about that story is that we know
- 20:31that Socrates thought those things
- 20:33because his student Plato wrote them
- 20:36down.
- 20:39So his thoughts about writing and how we
- 20:41shouldn't be doing it, how it should be
- 20:43interaction between people that that
- 20:45focuses on learning uh is available to
- 20:48us kind of ironically because of
- 20:51writing. So I'm asking you to think
- 20:55about what's your process
- 20:57when you're writing something, when
- 20:59you're writing a paper. It could be when
- 21:01you're writing a letter. Um, anybody
- 21:04want to offer anything that you do when
- 21:06you write?
- 21:17>> Can I add?
- 21:18>> Go ahead, Embraim.
- 21:21>> So, um, it was during co actually this
- 21:24is a, um, in my bucket list when I would
- 21:27retire that I would write a book on my
- 21:30life. So during COVID I was laid off. So
- 21:34I started writing stories. So short
- 21:36stories about life.
- 21:38And uh again writing for me is more I
- 21:43start writing thinking what like a like
- 21:46a like a mind map. I figure out first
- 21:50what uh what should be included in it.
- 21:54Uh somehow the emotions come in it as
- 21:57I'm writing. So it's it's continuously I
- 21:59keep on writing keep on writing and then
- 22:01when I edit it it's that it's at that
- 22:04stage where I go and organize it just
- 22:06for the unity of ideas. So my first
- 22:09thing is just I keep on writing whatever
- 22:11is there and then um I organize it but
- 22:15at times I try to you know um do like a
- 22:19mind map but somehow that doesn't work
- 22:22when I'm writing it's the it's overcome
- 22:24with emotions or if it's personal that
- 22:27overcomes the flowchart and it's it goes
- 22:30down the drain of the flowchart.
- 22:33>> Okay, thank you for that. Anyone else?
- 22:41Okay. Um,
- 22:43another approach that's frequently what
- 22:46uh
- 22:46>> I think Darlene has her hand up.
- 22:48>> Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
- 22:50>> You can't see it in my leaves.
- 22:52>> Yeah, [laughter]
- 22:54>> I'll have to change the color of my hand
- 22:55or something. Um, I I'm kind of like a
- 22:58bream. I have to I I like to think of it
- 23:01as like a dump. like I just have to get
- 23:03everything out and then I can start
- 23:06organizing.
- 23:08>> That's exactly that's exactly what I was
- 23:10going to talk about as another another
- 23:13way sometimes called stream of
- 23:15consciousness. It's just pour out
- 23:17whatever's in your head onto the paper
- 23:19like pouring it out of a bucket bucket
- 23:22get it down there and then you know
- 23:24figure out what you're going to do with
- 23:25it later. Um those are both common
- 23:28approaches. There's there's nothing
- 23:29wrong with either of them. uh you make
- 23:32work for you whatever works for you. Um
- 23:37Abby move on to the next screen.
- 23:41Joyce,
- 23:44thank you. As Joyce suggested earlier,
- 23:47the the the model that we proposed in
- 23:50that 1992 paper was based on um what had
- 23:55been done in terms of the writing
- 23:58process prior to people making much use
- 24:01of word processors. They were just
- 24:03beginning to have an an impact.
- 24:05Interestingly enough, very little has
- 24:09been done since 1992
- 24:12on um what constitutes the process of
- 24:15writing. So these these four steps,
- 24:20stages, elements in the writing process
- 24:23are what appeared to uh my graduate
- 24:26students and I when we were looking at
- 24:29the literature up to 1992. So, the first
- 24:32one was to generate ideas, which is what
- 24:35we were just talking about, just getting
- 24:37stuff out of your head and onto paper or
- 24:41a screen. Uh, they don't have to be
- 24:43related to one another, but they could
- 24:45be. So, that's what the little little
- 24:48lines connecting the ideas are. They're
- 24:50just for some people. Um, I can't
- 24:53remember which author it was now. Um,
- 24:57one one famous author kept peach a peach
- 25:00basket or keep peach baskets on his desk
- 25:04and he would write things down ideas and
- 25:07throw them into a peach basket and then
- 25:09he thought of something he thought might
- 25:11be related he'd throw it that peach
- 25:12basket and he had several peach baskets
- 25:15going at the same time. So he was
- 25:17getting some organization on the ideas
- 25:19there. But the next step for most people
- 25:21then it is a process of putting the the
- 25:24ideas into uh some form of connection
- 25:30between one another.
- 25:33I was taught in grade 8
- 25:36uh to do that by gathering up my ideas
- 25:39on index cards, little square pieces of
- 25:43of cardboard. They probably still exist
- 25:46somewhere. Um, and then you could put
- 25:49those uh into order. You could rank
- 25:52them. You could put them in little
- 25:54piles, whatever. Uh, and maybe if you
- 25:58had three or four of them together,
- 26:00those three or four ideas would come to
- 26:01be a paragraph. Um, but the step that we
- 26:06would go through between putting the
- 26:08ideas together and putting them uh on on
- 26:12a maybe on a desk in some organized way
- 26:15was to create an outline. Uh, and that
- 26:18was part of the that was part of what
- 26:20was taught as the writing process in the
- 26:241950s and60s and I think earlier. Um, so
- 26:28you have the you have the the
- 26:31cardboard index cards with the the ideas
- 26:34on them. You have them in an order. You
- 26:36have subetss and you create an outline
- 26:40to represent what's in that pile. When
- 26:44you've got all of that, then the next
- 26:47step um I'm saying next step kind of
- 26:50cautiously because I'm going to come
- 26:51back to that is to compose. So in in the
- 26:56generate place the idea might be just
- 26:58three words, two words. Uh might be a
- 27:01picture. It's something a cartoon that
- 27:04you draw. It's something that puts the
- 27:06idea, it documents the idea in some way
- 27:08or another. But composing is putting all
- 27:12of that organized information into
- 27:16sentences
- 27:17and the sentences into paragraphs. the
- 27:21creation of a linear sequence of text
- 27:25because that's the way we normally think
- 27:28of reading as happening. Um, one idea
- 27:31following another. So, when you've done
- 27:34that, you've gathered the information,
- 27:35you've organized the information, you've
- 27:37you've written it in a linear sequence,
- 27:41then you can begin revi revising it. Uh
- 27:45when you see it all together, you might
- 27:47think, well, no, this this sentence
- 27:49really doesn't belong at the beginning.
- 27:51It belongs at the end. It should I
- 27:53should move it from the very beginning
- 27:54to the very end because it really says
- 27:56what I'm thinking powerfully. Whatever
- 28:00uh you you make changes in the process
- 28:03of revision. Now the reason I said I
- 28:06said next step uh kind of hesitantly is
- 28:08because we don't see that process as
- 28:12generate, organize, compose, revise. We
- 28:15see it as an iterative process. So it
- 28:18could be generate, organize, generate
- 28:20some more, organize some more, generate,
- 28:23do some composing, go back to
- 28:24organizing, generate some more, go to
- 28:27composing, revise some. Now that it's
- 28:30revised, start all over again. gather
- 28:33more information, do more so on. So,
- 28:35it's a process of uh putting all of
- 28:38these steps together uh repeatedly in
- 28:42order to get the document uh that you
- 28:44want.
- 28:46Any questions about that before I move
- 28:48on?
- 28:53Now 1992 is a particularly good point of
- 28:56reference here because
- 29:00at about that point in time we began to
- 29:03see hypertext appearing. So the kinds of
- 29:06links that we see all the time nowadays
- 29:09in in documents that send us from one
- 29:11place to another, that's a change from
- 29:16the linear sequence of ideas that has
- 29:19been associated with uh had been
- 29:21associated with writing up until that
- 29:23point in time. And so hyperlinking
- 29:27uh allows things like Wikipedia in which
- 29:30you have the opportunity to jump around
- 29:32from idea to idea to idea in different
- 29:34on different pages.
- 29:37Um that's a radical change in reading
- 29:39not just writing in reading and how we
- 29:42organize information how we think about
- 29:44information. It's a new set of skills
- 29:46for human beings.
- 29:48Um,
- 29:51we uh trying to think why I have that
- 29:54gener there. I've lost track of why
- 29:57that's important. I guess just to
- 29:58illustrate the idea of thinking and the
- 30:01power behind it. But um Oh, it's a
- 30:06generator. That's why. Uh
- 30:09the um
- 30:14this the question there is would you
- 30:16would you organize generate information
- 30:19differently if you were doing all of
- 30:22these different things? A course paper
- 30:23for different subjects, an email to your
- 30:26mother, a short story, uh as Darlene was
- 30:29talking about, uh a novel. Would writing
- 30:31a novel require a process different from
- 30:34writing a short story? Would all of them
- 30:36be different from a policy document? And
- 30:38would any of them be anything like the
- 30:40love letter that Joyce Lynn got? Chances
- 30:44are something very different goes on
- 30:46when you do any one of these. And and
- 30:48and it's different from the beginning.
- 30:50It's intentional. Uh that's an important
- 30:53point about when we what we do when we
- 30:55write. We we write with intention and
- 30:58usually we want the reader to understand
- 31:03our intentions. Next screen.
- 31:09So the process of organizing can be
- 31:11broken down into all of these different
- 31:13possibilities. You will have this you
- 31:15can look at it later. Uh it breaks down
- 31:17the different steps like verising and ed
- 31:19revising and editing. Um doing a grammar
- 31:23check yourself or doing [snorts] a
- 31:25grammar check with um software or an AI
- 31:29getting peers to review documents. Um,
- 31:34I sent Joyce Lyn a document just today,
- 31:37uh, or actually I sent her a whole
- 31:38course, um, with the hopes that she
- 31:41would take, uh, a look at that and make
- 31:43suggestions about removing it, uh,
- 31:45reviewing it, re revising it, um, and
- 31:50style improvement. We'll talk another
- 31:51day about what constitutes style and how
- 31:54you might think about uh choosing. But
- 31:57the the process of organizing is similar
- 32:00to this tray of buttons and beads and
- 32:02flowers. Uh it's putting things in
- 32:05places where they are related. The
- 32:08related things are together and separate
- 32:10from other things. Move on.
- 32:18So I've got a sentence here. Central
- 32:22tendency is about loading locating the
- 32:25group of data on the number line. What
- 32:28one number best describes the location
- 32:31of the set of data as a whole?
- 32:38Any answers to that?
- 32:53Okay, it's probably good that you don't
- 32:55have answers to that because the answer
- 32:58is basically that
- 33:01which one of those things is the better
- 33:03choice depends on the context.
- 33:07Uh
- 33:08there are there are times when the mode
- 33:11the thing that happens most often is
- 33:13really what's important. Think about the
- 33:15voting that's going on in the states
- 33:17right now. What matters is how many
- 33:19people voted the same way. The median is
- 33:22useful if you want to be able to think
- 33:24about people in terms of their kind of
- 33:27relationship to a group um
- 33:32with particular emphasis on uh whether
- 33:35they are above or below
- 33:38a middle point. That's also often
- 33:41frequently what the arithmetic average
- 33:42is, but it's calculated differently and
- 33:45has has other implications for what you
- 33:48can do with the data. All of that has to
- 33:50do with context. Move on.
- 33:56So in addition to context, we have to be
- 33:59concerned about uh the process of
- 34:01composing. Composing is the putting
- 34:04together of things into sentences.
- 34:08Um it is the process of stringing words
- 34:11together. And the only advice I can give
- 34:14you about that is do it. put the words
- 34:18into a string. You may not like the
- 34:20string when you're done with it. That's
- 34:22okay. That's why we have revising.
- 34:25Um there's more on that in the uh
- 34:29writing an academic paper link at the
- 34:32bottom, but the
- 34:36um the challenge for an awful lot of
- 34:39people trying to write is to get
- 34:42started. And the point here is
- 34:46it doesn't matter how you get started.
- 34:49It doesn't matter what you put on paper
- 34:51or on your screen in the first instance.
- 34:54It just matters that you get something
- 34:56there that you can work from.
- 34:59Um,
- 35:01I used to suggest to people frequently
- 35:03that if you're if you have what I'm
- 35:05describing, which is writer's block,
- 35:09um, one way of getting over writer's
- 35:11block is to start writing something
- 35:12else. Write a menu, write a recipe,
- 35:16write a letter to your mom.
- 35:19That gets you writing. Then you can turn
- 35:23your attention to the other uh to the
- 35:26document you want to write. You're
- 35:27already writing. Now you just have to
- 35:29keep it up.
- 35:31AI can be very helpful with this process
- 35:35because you can ask AI a question and
- 35:37take whatever it gives you as the answer
- 35:40as something to work with. You don't
- 35:43have to face a blank screen. You don't
- 35:45have to face a blank piece of paper. You
- 35:48can start out with something already
- 35:50there that you can work on. You can
- 35:53compose with go on
- 36:00just a few quotes about writing.
- 36:14Most of these are reiterating what I've
- 36:17what I've said uh before. The one I
- 36:20particularly like on this screen is is
- 36:22Thomas Jefferson.
- 36:24Um, you will see that idea
- 36:28repeated over and over and over again on
- 36:31advice to writers.
- 36:34Brevity is the king.
- 36:39If you poll high school English
- 36:41teachers, they will tell you that
- 36:43simple, direct sentences is the key to
- 36:48successful writing.
- 36:50If you look at what papers they give
- 36:53high marks to, generally they are papers
- 36:57full of long and complex sentences.
- 37:00So it's advice that we give people. It's
- 37:03advice we have taking have difficulty
- 37:05taking ourselves and even it is advice
- 37:08that it's difficult to use in marking
- 37:11other people's work.
- 37:13Um
- 37:15a simple explanation of your ideas is
- 37:17generally to be preferred.
- 37:20Another the other thing I like the other
- 37:22quote I I like here is I write to
- 37:24discover what I know. Um a colleague of
- 37:27mine many years ago used to say that a
- 37:29different way. He said, "I don't I don't
- 37:30know what I think until I see what I
- 37:33write."
- 37:35Um, if you ponder that idea for a while,
- 37:38I think you'll see that sometimes you
- 37:39start writing something and all of a
- 37:41sudden in the process of writing, you
- 37:44learn something. Not from the documents
- 37:48you're looking at or whatever, but just
- 37:50from the process of writing. It's
- 37:52clarifying your own ideas. It's getting
- 37:54you to think. Go on.
- 38:02Okay. So, these are all different steps,
- 38:06possibilities for the idea of revising
- 38:10um everyone from Church Hill to uh oh,
- 38:15what's his name? The uh the horror
- 38:17writer that's very popular at Halloween.
- 38:21What's his name?
- 38:22>> Stephen King.
- 38:23>> Stephen King. Yeah. Uh Stephen King has
- 38:26a book on writing and he repeats and
- 38:29repeats and repeats the idea that for
- 38:34writing to be good you need to revise it
- 38:36over and over and over again. Jack
- 38:39London [clears throat] on the other hand
- 38:42um had a habit of
- 38:45sending papers out to uh publishers
- 38:47either magazine publishers or book
- 38:49publishers and waiting for them to
- 38:51respond. And early in his career, he had
- 38:55hundreds of articles that were that he
- 38:57had written, sent out, and got back with
- 39:00a rejection letter. He threw all those
- 39:03rejection letters in their envelopes on
- 39:05the floor under his desk. And when he
- 39:07couldn't think of something to write,
- 39:09he'd get one of them out, put it in a
- 39:12new envelope, and send it to a new
- 39:15magazine or book publisher and change it
- 39:18at all. Um
- 39:22later on he figured out that in order to
- 39:24be successful he needed to be taking the
- 39:27advice people were giving him and
- 39:28revising the work. Next.
- 39:38Um,
- 39:40so this work uh is something you can
- 39:45get. I I don't think I have a link for
- 39:47it here for you, but I will send this to
- 39:49you if the idea if the if the topic
- 39:51interests you. Uh this appears uh in a
- 39:55research journal and it is about
- 40:00what we could learn in Northern Ireland
- 40:05about ending denominational schooling as
- 40:09was done in Newfoundland. In Northern
- 40:12Ireland that denominational schooling
- 40:14serves served still serves to maintain
- 40:18separation among communities.
- 40:22It did that in Newfoundland as well. So
- 40:24in 1998 they had they had a a vote and
- 40:28they ended that there's only one school
- 40:30system now, not two separate school
- 40:32systems. We could ask ourselves if
- 40:35there's a lesson to be learned from for
- 40:37Ontario in that. But our task was to
- 40:41look at lessons for Northern Ireland.
- 40:42And the interesting thing here is we
- 40:45have one guy in Ontario, one guy at
- 40:47Memorial in Newfoundland, and one guy at
- 40:51uh Olster University which is in
- 40:52Northern Ireland.
- 40:56So
- 40:58we each had a perspective on what had
- 41:01happened in Newf Finland and we each
- 41:04wrote about our own backgrounds and
- 41:06experiences in relationship to uh those
- 41:09questions.
- 41:11And when we were done, uh, we put them
- 41:15we put those pieces together and put
- 41:17them in order and had about 16,000 or
- 41:2118,000 words alto together.
- 41:25And the journal we wanted to sub submit
- 41:28the paper to had a upper limit of 8,000
- 41:31words.
- 41:32So we had to cut the document in half.
- 41:34We had to get rid of half of what we had
- 41:37spent all that time and energy writing,
- 41:41organizing, revising, generating,
- 41:45composing, organizing and so on.
- 41:49In this process, we found it really
- 41:52valuable uh at after everything was
- 41:56written
- 41:58for me to have an AI read what we had
- 42:03written [clears throat] sort of one
- 42:05paragraph at a time because I could say
- 42:09to Gerald or to Roger, you know, this
- 42:13paragraph is unnecessary.
- 42:16And they would think, yeah, what do you
- 42:18know, Bill?
- 42:19Um, I mean, you're not here.
- 42:23Uh, or you know, Gerald could say,
- 42:25"Well, Roger, come on. Uh, I'm trying to
- 42:27give you the perspective from Newland.
- 42:30If we had AI
- 42:32suggest changes for us, uh, to cut the
- 42:36the the length of the document, the
- 42:38stuff it cut out was dispassionate. We
- 42:43had to recognize that it didn't care who
- 42:46which of us wrote it. it. It didn't care
- 42:48what our perspectives were. It cared
- 42:50about the task we gave it. Make this
- 42:53shorter.
- 42:55Um, so that was one example, I think, of
- 42:58putting AI to use in a very constructive
- 43:01way uh in a professional writing test.
- 43:04Next,
- 43:09okay, we can we can move beyond this.
- 43:11We've talked about this enough.
- 43:15So this is just reiterating the the four
- 43:19uh steps, elements, components. Go on.
- 43:25This also is reiterating them and
- 43:28referring you to uh an article, a more
- 43:30recent article on advice for using
- 43:33structured approaches. And go ahead,
- 43:36that's okay. Uh and a uh
- 43:41a link to the resources behind this
- 43:43paper.
- 43:45uh this presentation
- 43:47and I think that's that. Am I right?
- 43:56Okay. So, any any questions after we've
- 43:58gone through that whole presentation?
- 44:06>> No arguments.
- 44:08I didn't offend anybody. Come on.
- 44:13I'm just going to log back into the
- 44:15present the gamut presentation. Just
- 44:17give me one moment.
- 44:19>> Okay.
- 44:28If I'm not offending anybody, I'll have
- 44:30to try harder.
- 44:31>> Near has her hand up. Go ahead, Near.
- 44:35>> Um,
- 44:37well, I'm not offended, but uh I have a
- 44:40question. And so as uh Bill you were
- 44:43talking that the article was quite long
- 44:46and utilized like AI to do that but uh
- 44:51so did did the did the usage of AI did
- 44:55it uh included everything that you guys
- 44:58were talking about in those 17 to 18,000
- 45:03words or was there any kind of
- 45:05information that was omitted or was it
- 45:07like it was it altered anyway?
- 45:11Really good question. That's a really
- 45:13good question. For the most part,
- 45:17the AI
- 45:19uh did not suggest completely throwing
- 45:23anything out.
- 45:26Um but it did suggest that sometimes and
- 45:29for the most part we accepted that
- 45:32advice.
- 45:34But
- 45:36whoever wrote that section usually had
- 45:38to be persuaded.
- 45:40Uh the the other two of us had to say,
- 45:43"No, look, really, we we said that
- 45:45somewhere else." Um we really don't need
- 45:49to make that point. Whatever.
- 45:52Um, more often though, uh, it just found
- 45:57more economical
- 46:00language to say the same things that we
- 46:04were saying. Uh, so that was
- 46:06non-controversial.
- 46:09An important thing that I think I need
- 46:11to add to this and thank you for raising
- 46:13the question is when we submitted that
- 46:17paper, we submitted it with uh a note to
- 46:22the editor explaining exactly how we
- 46:25used AI. Uh because the journal says it
- 46:30doesn't accept papers that were written
- 46:33by AI.
- 46:35uh they did accept that paper because we
- 46:37had explained exactly how we used it and
- 46:39they it was clear that the AI did not
- 46:41write the paper. Uh any suggestions the
- 46:44AI made became something we used to do
- 46:47further revisions rather than uh became
- 46:51substitutes for what we had to say.
- 46:57>> Okay.
- 47:00So it didn't do any kind of biasness as
- 47:02you were saying that it was it was
- 47:04actually giving you an more economical
- 47:06language right but you know the models
- 47:09of AI we dealing with at one point or
- 47:12other do they try to enter their own
- 47:15biasness one way or other it might be in
- 47:18the running process even or try to even
- 47:21change like when we give the continuous
- 47:22prompt like this has been observed with
- 47:24so many AI generator models like when
- 47:27you give continuous prompting I have
- 47:29tried this with an article actually this
- 47:31thing happened to me. So you know uh in
- 47:342023 I was doing my masters of education
- 47:36from Lakehead University.
- 47:39So we were doing this article for the
- 47:41place based education. So I was giving
- 47:44the continuous prompt to the AI to I was
- 47:48pasting the article continuously at the
- 47:51end it totally changed the meaning and
- 47:53you know I I was like surprised like
- 47:55what has happened over the time did that
- 47:58happen with you guys.
- 48:01I don't think we had anything comparable
- 48:05to that near Amry. Um but
- 48:09but that experience you're right uh is
- 48:11common and we will be addressing that in
- 48:17much more detail but in another course.
- 48:20We're introducing a new course called
- 48:22>> okay
- 48:23>> uh learner agency and the management of
- 48:26AI error. So what you were seeing was AI
- 48:29error. it should not have been
- 48:31introducing new ideas that you hadn't
- 48:34prompted it for. Um,
- 48:38an interesting one one thing that I I
- 48:40can tell you uh I recommend in that new
- 48:43course is if you think the AI is doing
- 48:46something like that, confront it.
- 48:50Say, "Wait a minute. You have introduced
- 48:54a whole new idea here. I wasn't talking
- 48:56about that. Where did that come from?
- 48:58Why are you saying that?
- 49:01Does that matter? Have I missed
- 49:02something? Uh get it to justify whatever
- 49:06it has said. That often will help. Often
- 49:08it will say, "Oh, I I made a mistake. I
- 49:11shouldn't have done that." Uh but
- 49:14sometimes it will then go on to explain,
- 49:16"I I I shouldn't have done that, but but
- 49:18here's why I did it." And sometimes
- 49:21there's very valuable information in why
- 49:23it did that.
- 49:29Andrea.
- 49:33>> Yeah, thank you for the presentation. I
- 49:35I really like all the process of
- 49:37writing. I wonder um how can AI be hand
- 49:43with this process when we teach students
- 49:46how to write in English for example
- 49:48because uh you know once you start using
- 49:52AI you might forget about all these
- 49:54process. So how this process is
- 49:56integrated when using AI?
- 50:02>> Yeah. Um
- 50:06there's
- 50:08there's a whole lot to say about that,
- 50:10Andrea, and I think we'll be saying it
- 50:12repeatedly various answers to that
- 50:14question during the course. Uh if you
- 50:17take a look at the um the X files,
- 50:23one of the that's that's the extra
- 50:26module in the course. One of the links
- 50:29in the X files is a link to to something
- 50:32um called recent AI news.
- 50:37And that's a wiki page that I keep
- 50:39updating with information that's
- 50:41appearing in the popular press. It's not
- 50:43research literature. It's just you know
- 50:46uh popular press articles about AI
- 50:50and a recent one
- 50:53revealed that students are now students
- 50:56who do not use AI students who kind of
- 51:00on principal say I'm not going to write
- 51:01you with AI I'm not going to use AI are
- 51:04finding that they have to work hard
- 51:07to not look like they're writing AI to
- 51:11make sure that they don't use things
- 51:13that people think are AI. So even for
- 51:17people who aren't using AI, AI is
- 51:20changing the way they write
- 51:22and that has some benefits
- 51:24because it means that they're avoiding
- 51:26some often trit language that uh the AI
- 51:30uses
- 51:32but it also means that they may end up
- 51:35writing um more complex papers violating
- 51:39that notion of simplicity that I was
- 51:41talking about directness earlier. So
- 51:44you've you've asked a very important and
- 51:46very complex question and I hope you'll
- 51:49ask it again later when we've had more
- 51:51opportunity to talk about related ideas.
- 51:54>> Thank you.
- 51:59>> Thank you for your questions. I'll
- 52:00continue with the presentation and
- 52:03Andrea it's very possible that we will
- 52:06start to explore the answer to your
- 52:08question through some of this practical
- 52:10application in the second half as well.
- 52:13Just to summarize um Bill's framework
- 52:16for the writing process, here is another
- 52:20framework and it is similar. So when you
- 52:25look at the article that uh Bill had
- 52:27written from '92, there is a there is a
- 52:30summary of different frameworks um from
- 52:34other writers like uh Collins and
- 52:38Gentner who said writing operates under
- 52:41constraints related to structure,
- 52:43content and purpose. Um Smith at all
- 52:46said writing consists of prewriting,
- 52:48organizing, writing and editing. they're
- 52:50all similar and this is a different uh
- 52:54framework so that you see that the
- 52:56similarities require the cyclical
- 52:59pattern. So the review process of adding
- 53:02to it and taking away and editing and so
- 53:06the commonality that many of the
- 53:08frameworks have is uh the revision
- 53:11process of going back um and iterating.
- 53:18And if I heard your qu question
- 53:20correctly, Andrea, you were asking about
- 53:22how can you start to use this in with
- 53:25students? How can you start to use AI?
- 53:28And this slide talks about the role of
- 53:31computers in general in writing. And um
- 53:34like when Bill was talking about uh in
- 53:37'92 when word processors were first
- 53:40introduced a similar kind of anxiety
- 53:42started to um come about educators like
- 53:46how is this going to change the writing
- 53:48process and whatnot but um here are some
- 53:52questions to also consider. So reflect
- 53:54on a recent writing project. How would
- 53:57you adapt your process to incorporate AI
- 54:00tools at each stage to improve
- 54:02efficiency or quality? So these this
- 54:06question itself it's like well how am I
- 54:08going to add AI? What am I going to do
- 54:10in this roing writing process to include
- 54:13uh AI literacy for my students? How does
- 54:16breaking down the writing process into
- 54:19generating, organizing, composing and
- 54:22revising help clarify your approach to
- 54:25writing? So even making chunks can help
- 54:29you start to organize. Even breaking
- 54:32down your writing into chunks can help
- 54:34you start to organize and think about
- 54:36how I can start to use that chunk um in
- 54:40a using AI. How can I intersect uh AI
- 54:44writing?
- 54:45In what ways can AI tools enhance or
- 54:49change your personal writing process?
- 54:52Are there any stages where you would
- 54:54prefer not to use AI? And this and I'm
- 54:59thinking about Embra where you were
- 55:00saying in the pandemic you were writing
- 55:02um your ideas, putting them out there
- 55:04and it was getting um like you had an
- 55:08emotional process to it. But where what
- 55:11were the stages that you would now take
- 55:14to enhance that?
- 55:16what direction would you want to take
- 55:17that writing and what's the context that
- 55:20you want to explore and you can use AI
- 55:23to start to develop different writing
- 55:27styles depending on the context of how
- 55:30you want to present your writing.
- 55:34Okay,
- 55:36I want you to click this open. This is
- 55:38short stories.
- 55:41Short trip stories. Which one
- 55:45did chat GPT write? My computer's a
- 55:49little bit slow here. So, click the link
- 55:51if you have the
- 55:54the article here
- 55:58and
- 55:59I'm going to keep this open. I want I'll
- 56:02give you a few minutes each of you to
- 56:04read the three stories. So, trip bound
- 56:08for everywhere. There's a second one,
- 56:10trip bound for somewhere,
- 56:13and a third one, tripbound for nowhere.
- 56:19I will give you a few minutes and then
- 56:22feel free to unmute your mic.
- 56:26Tell me which one or which ones
- 56:30you think that chat GPT wrote.
- 56:33Okay, so feel free. I know it's small on
- 56:36my screen, but you do have access to the
- 56:38link. Is there anyone that does not have
- 56:41access to short stories? Short trip
- 56:44stories.
- 56:46You're all good.
- 56:47>> Is it in Canvas?
- 56:49>> It's in the gamma. So, let me give you
- 56:53the link.
- 56:57I'll put the link inside the chat
- 57:05if you don't have the gamma open.
- 57:07Jessica may already done that.
- 57:09>> Oh, thank you, Jessica.
- 57:10>> Yeah, she did.
- 57:12>> Awesome. Jessica's put the link in the
- 57:15chat for everyone.
- 57:34Okay, so take your time. three stories.
- 57:38Let me know which one you feel chat GPT
- 57:41wrote or which ones
- 57:44>> and why.
- 57:47>> The winner gets a break. [laughter]
- 57:53Okay. And I want to answer [laughter]
- 58:39I'll also disclose that one of the
- 58:41authors of one of these stories is Bill
- 58:45Hunter.
- 58:49>> Really?
- 58:51You've forgotten.
- 58:54I didn't forget.
- 58:58This actually is the first task I did
- 59:02with my students in principles of
- 59:05learning in 2024.
- 59:082023
- 59:11>> 2024
- 59:13>> when uh when AI was fresh new at least a
- 59:17chatp was fresh and new uh
- 59:22and Joyce Lynn was in that class
- 59:30I was telling Bill that I happened to
- 59:31meet him on my birthday so my first
- 59:34master's class started on my birthday so
- 59:37it was a nice birthday present.
- 59:50Ambrien has a guess and I'll read it
- 59:52out. She thinks it's story number two
- 59:54that's written by chat GPT. The language
- 59:57is too flowery.
- 1:00:02So she thinks trainbound for somewhere.
- 1:00:09Lena, you think story 3 is written by
- 1:00:12who? A human chat GPT.
- 1:00:15>> Chat GP3. And why?
- 1:00:18[laughter]
- 1:00:18Uh it might be embarrassing but um I
- 1:00:22guess that the use of of the m dash
- 1:00:26I found that yeah chat dp use it a lot
- 1:00:30and also the listing and listing and
- 1:00:32listing of ideas when I see a lot of
- 1:00:35commas
- 1:00:37um and the m dash to me those are red
- 1:00:40flags because
- 1:00:43it's punctuation I know but that's the
- 1:00:46trick I use with my students.
- 1:00:49Okay.
- 1:00:52So, that is uh that is a clue for some
- 1:00:56AI writing, but it's not it's it's not
- 1:01:00always the proof, so I'm not giving you
- 1:01:02the answer yet. We have someone else.
- 1:01:05So, uh Jessica says, "Chat GPT wrote
- 1:01:09story one."
- 1:01:11Story 1 and three are written by AI,
- 1:01:13says Andrea. Jennifer says, "I think any
- 1:01:16of these could be written by chat GPT."
- 1:01:20>> My feelings.
- 1:01:25>> Okay. And the answer is
- 1:01:30>> I wrote number three.
- 1:01:33>> Yay. I got it right. [laughter]
- 1:01:36>> I wrote it on a train in Scotland
- 1:01:41>> before Chad GPT existed.
- 1:01:44And I had to change it a little bit be
- 1:01:47before I put it on this task because
- 1:01:50when I wrote it on that train, it didn't
- 1:01:52say shut the hell up. It was stronger
- 1:01:56language.
- 1:01:58And if I had written the stronger
- 1:02:00language in
- 1:02:02this document,
- 1:02:04that would have been a dead giveaway
- 1:02:06that it wasn't written by AI.
- 1:02:14Okay. So, I guess you guys get to have a
- 1:02:17break. I will start the timer. We'll
- 1:02:20come back in 10 minutes
- 1:02:24and I'll share the timer here and
- 1:02:28uh we'll explore some AI apps. I'll
- 1:02:32stick around for a couple of minutes as
- 1:02:34well if you do have any questions. So
- 1:02:36are you saying that only the the the
- 1:02:39final one was not written by Chad GP by
- 1:02:44AI?
- 1:02:45>> That's right. It was not written by AI.
- 1:02:48I
- 1:02:48>> everywhere and somewhere were written by
- 1:02:51by it. Okay.
- 1:02:53>> Yes. Bill wrote the last one. The first
- 1:02:55two were AI generated.
- 1:02:58>> Thank you.
- 1:02:59>> You're welcome.
- 1:03:00>> I'll explain a little when we come back.
- 1:03:36where folks are trying to get to learn
- 1:03:39something real.
- 1:03:41I've got a soft spot for long shots.
- 1:03:45People trying to build bridges where
- 1:03:47others see walls.
- 1:03:49Race, profession, discipline, doesn't
- 1:03:52matter. If you're trying to connect
- 1:03:54across lines, I'm your guy. See, I
- 1:03:58believe in tech. Not the cold kind that
- 1:04:01crunches numbers and forgets your name.
- 1:04:03I'm talking about the kind of bring the
- 1:04:05kind that brings people together, that
- 1:04:08sparks understanding, that makes a kid
- 1:04:10in one corner of the world nod along
- 1:04:12with a teacher in another. That's the
- 1:04:14kind of case I take. And AI? Yeah, I've
- 1:04:18got my eye on it. Not as a threat, but
- 1:04:20as a partner, a tool. something that if
- 1:04:24you treat it right can help you teach
- 1:04:26better, learn deeper, and maybe, just
- 1:04:29maybe, make sense of this crazy world.
- 1:04:33So, if you're looking for someone who
- 1:04:35still believes learning can change
- 1:04:37things, who thinks a wellplaced idea can
- 1:04:41hit harder than a 45, you found him. The
- 1:04:45name's Hunter, and I'm always on the
- 1:04:48case.
- 1:04:50So, that's me. However,
- 1:04:53uh also me
- 1:04:56is a link I just put in the chat where
- 1:04:59thank you where uh you'll find uh a a a
- 1:05:03website uh that gives you a bit about my
- 1:05:06my actual academic background very very
- 1:05:09quickly. I started out teaching English
- 1:05:12in 1972
- 1:05:17um and uh went on to get a doctorate in
- 1:05:20educational psychology. did work on
- 1:05:22moral reasoning in adults uh for my
- 1:05:26doctoral dissertation and for for
- 1:05:28several years of research after that.
- 1:05:30Most of my teaching has been in uh
- 1:05:32research uh methods, statistics,
- 1:05:35measurement
- 1:05:37um and uh for the last
- 1:05:4020 years primarily uh learning theory.
- 1:05:46I retired in uh September of 2024 and
- 1:05:51part of what I did then uh was to start
- 1:05:54building some AI expertise and some
- 1:05:58courses in continuous learning. So
- 1:06:01that's the
- 1:06:03um that's the gist of it.
- 1:06:07Thank you.
- 1:06:09>> Thank you, Bill.
- 1:06:12and we will resume with our presentation
- 1:06:15with AI writing tools and resources.
- 1:06:21Oh, actually, Bill, before I move on,
- 1:06:23did you want to review uh the short
- 1:06:26story short trips?
- 1:06:28>> Oh, yes. Thank you. Um,
- 1:06:31I just wanted to say that that the
- 1:06:34purpose of that exercise was to see
- 1:06:36first of all, could
- 1:06:39the AI actually produce something that
- 1:06:42looked like human writing? It was that
- 1:06:45early in in the process and I was very
- 1:06:47pleased that it did. Uh, I was a little
- 1:06:50disappointed
- 1:06:51that it made the the the pieces it wrote
- 1:06:56so closely tied to the one I wrote. Um,
- 1:07:01I had given it that one and asked it uh
- 1:07:04to write something similar uh about a
- 1:07:07train trip uh with a gambler theme. Uh,
- 1:07:11so I shouldn't have been surprised when
- 1:07:14it when it it did it the way it did. Um,
- 1:07:18there someone Darlene maybe uh noticed
- 1:07:22that all of the
- 1:07:24uh M dashes. I'm always pleased when
- 1:07:27somebody notices M dashes because a lot
- 1:07:29of people don't even know what an M dash
- 1:07:31is. Um I use a lot of M dashes and AI is
- 1:07:38copying it from me. So just bear that in
- 1:07:41mind.
- 1:07:43That's it.
- 1:07:46I have a question.
- 1:07:47>> Sure.
- 1:07:48>> So I I know uh I studied from the
- 1:07:51British system and when we were taught
- 1:07:54writing I mean I did my masters in
- 1:07:55literature
- 1:07:57they stressed so much on the five senses
- 1:08:00include those when you're writing. So
- 1:08:03that's where I got confused especially
- 1:08:05in the first story that it did include
- 1:08:08the senses right. Yes. Too much flowery
- 1:08:12language is is a thing which we were
- 1:08:14even taught that too much of that spoils
- 1:08:16the writing.
- 1:08:18>> Yes.
- 1:08:19>> How do we how do we manage that? So I
- 1:08:22say writing now has become more
- 1:08:24difficult then because as you mentioned
- 1:08:26earlier that on that research that
- 1:08:29students are finding it difficult if
- 1:08:30they're not using AI how to change their
- 1:08:33writing. So is it changing the writing
- 1:08:36style as well? Um it's all it's a whole
- 1:08:39thought process.
- 1:08:41That's a great question, Amber. Um,
- 1:08:48I
- 1:08:54it's a it's a process of formalizing our
- 1:08:57thought, whether we put that thought on
- 1:09:00paper or put it in a screen or put it
- 1:09:03into a presentation.
- 1:09:05Um,
- 1:09:06it it's a it's a difficult task to make
- 1:09:11sure that you are saying what you mean
- 1:09:15and that it's having the impact that you
- 1:09:17want it to have.
- 1:09:19Um,
- 1:09:22all too often people actually don't pay
- 1:09:25attention to questions of style. They
- 1:09:28don't really focus on their intent.
- 1:09:32It It's not as purposive. it's more
- 1:09:34stream of consciousness whatever came to
- 1:09:37them uh as they were trying to do the
- 1:09:40task. So I appreciate that you have a
- 1:09:43sensitivity to the formalities of of
- 1:09:46writing and to the the challenges
- 1:09:49imposed by it. Um, so for me, uh, AI is,
- 1:09:55like I said in in my introduction, it's
- 1:09:58a tool and often it saves me a lot of
- 1:10:02time because it gives me something to
- 1:10:05start working with
- 1:10:08and sometimes it it helps me to find
- 1:10:11resources
- 1:10:12to give more credibility to what I'm
- 1:10:16writing.
- 1:10:19But I'm not sure that in the end uh it's
- 1:10:22saving me effort. It's changing what I
- 1:10:25do. Uh but I still have to take
- 1:10:30responsibility for the final product. I
- 1:10:33still have to write com do do the
- 1:10:35composing. I still have to uh edit and
- 1:10:38check. Uh I have to find errors that
- 1:10:41it's made, errors that I've made. Uh it
- 1:10:45if it's going to be a good product, it's
- 1:10:47a rigorous process. Anyone
- 1:10:56else?
- 1:11:00Okay, over to you, Jocelyn.
- 1:11:03Thank you.
- 1:11:05Good questions. Okay, so we can
- 1:11:08implement those questions and put them
- 1:11:10into practice and use different tools.
- 1:11:13And here are some AI tools that I'll
- 1:11:16introduce you to if you're not familiar
- 1:11:18with them. Um, these are clickable
- 1:11:20links. So, if you have the gamma,
- 1:11:24you can navigate to this page and you
- 1:11:26should be able to open each of these in
- 1:11:28a new tab. These are applications that
- 1:11:32you can access as a premium. And so you
- 1:11:35can access them um with free with a
- 1:11:39Gmail, Microsoft for example, an email
- 1:11:42account and up to a certain limit. So
- 1:11:48um these are different tools that I'll
- 1:11:51show you. Has anybody ever used uh
- 1:11:54illicit before?
- 1:12:01Okay. So, I'm just going to share my I'm
- 1:12:04going to navigate around and share my
- 1:12:05screen. So, just bear with me as I log
- 1:12:08into
- 1:12:09um Elicit here.
- 1:12:27Okay.
- 1:12:37Okay. So, this is illicit
- 1:12:42and I've created a prompt and I'm going
- 1:12:45to enter this prompt. I've already
- 1:12:47entered it here, but I'll show you the
- 1:12:51results based on the prompt. So the
- 1:12:54prompt that I'm entering into these
- 1:12:55different uh tools is something you can
- 1:12:59enter as well. So if you have a project
- 1:13:00you're working on and a specific prompt
- 1:13:02that you want to explore. Let's say for
- 1:13:04your capstone project, try these
- 1:13:06different tools. Try them um with the
- 1:13:08same prompt and just compare the output
- 1:13:10and see what is better for you in terms
- 1:13:14of the context. So for um illicit, I've
- 1:13:20entered this prompt. What does research
- 1:13:22suggest about the effects of generative
- 1:13:25AI feedback on university students
- 1:13:27writing skills? Identify relevant
- 1:13:29studies, summarize their findings and
- 1:13:31limitations, and distinguish
- 1:13:34improved writing quality from students
- 1:13:37perceptions of improvement, provide
- 1:13:40verifiable references. And so I've asked
- 1:13:43elicit this and it's given me this
- 1:13:46summary and it's also given me links as
- 1:13:49well for the sources
- 1:13:53as well as the verifiable references
- 1:13:57also some methods. So the output for
- 1:14:00this says the evidence points to a
- 1:14:02modest conditional benefit, not a
- 1:14:04general proof that generative AI
- 1:14:06feedback builds durable writing skills
- 1:14:09and then gives me a few different
- 1:14:11articles of research for me to reference
- 1:14:14for that for that question that I've put
- 1:14:16into the prompt. So that's illicit. You
- 1:14:19can continue your conversation with
- 1:14:22illicit. I used elicit throughout my
- 1:14:26entirety of uh the master's program and
- 1:14:30so that was 10 different courses where I
- 1:14:32was able to cross reference research and
- 1:14:37for example you can click on the
- 1:14:39articles research and find uh an
- 1:14:43abstract and then look deeper and find
- 1:14:46the actual article. So these are helpful
- 1:14:49for research tools to find uh
- 1:14:52publications.
- 1:14:54I'm going to now go to
- 1:14:58Perplexity. Has anybody tried
- 1:15:01Perplexity?
- 1:15:02>> Yeah, I use Perplexity.
- 1:15:05>> Okay, great. So you have some
- 1:15:08uh you have some experience with it. All
- 1:15:11of these tools are going to be similar
- 1:15:13in how they look, but the output, since
- 1:15:16it's generative AI, it searches for
- 1:15:19patterns in the text. And so all of the
- 1:15:21outputs will be a little bit different.
- 1:15:24Asking the same question, I've entered
- 1:15:26the same prompt. I get a different
- 1:15:29output of a summary. And so this
- 1:15:33uh perplexity has given me
- 1:15:37relevant studies in an actual grid. And
- 1:15:41so these are other links that you can
- 1:15:44click on for verifiable sources and it's
- 1:15:48provided it in uh a grid where it has
- 1:15:51the design and sample, the main findings
- 1:15:53and key limitations. So sort of like an
- 1:15:56abstract summary.
- 1:15:59Um when I was in my undergrad and
- 1:16:04masters, I spent hours and hours
- 1:16:06creating these summaries and now with
- 1:16:08one prompt, it generates it in seconds.
- 1:16:12So it's incredible to see how you need
- 1:16:16to really level up your writing skills
- 1:16:18because this can be generated uh
- 1:16:21instantaneously
- 1:16:23and also check your sources to make sure
- 1:16:26that they exist. Okay, so that's another
- 1:16:29writing tool that you could explore for
- 1:16:32research purposes. That's called
- 1:16:34perplexity.
- 1:16:37Um, research rabbit. Has anybody used
- 1:16:40research rabbit?
- 1:16:43Andrea has used research rabbit.
- 1:16:45>> Excellent. And Jessica as well. This is
- 1:16:48a little bit different the way that
- 1:16:51research rabbit finds information. Um,
- 1:16:54I've entered just keywords here. So, a
- 1:16:58similar prompt, but I've just sourced
- 1:17:00out the keyword. So, I've asked it for
- 1:17:02generative AI feedback, university
- 1:17:04students writing skills, and it pulls up
- 1:17:07these articles. Now, with research
- 1:17:10rabbit, I I believe they gave it this
- 1:17:12name because you enter a rabbit hole.
- 1:17:14So, you can spend hours here upon
- 1:17:17finding your research to find connected
- 1:17:20related articles. and they're connected
- 1:17:23by either similar uh references or
- 1:17:27citations.
- 1:17:29And so all I entered here was generative
- 1:17:31AI feedback for university students.
- 1:17:35This takes a deeper dive. So I can click
- 1:17:40on similar
- 1:17:43and it will give me now a map of similar
- 1:17:47types of research that I can now
- 1:17:50explore. and it gives the date and who
- 1:17:52wrote it.
- 1:17:56And so if you click on this Barrett 2023
- 1:18:00on the right here, you get an abstract
- 1:18:03of that work that's related to the
- 1:18:05original
- 1:18:07prompt that you put in and then you can
- 1:18:10from here take a deeper dive on that
- 1:18:12article. So then it then does a similar
- 1:18:15search
- 1:18:17based on that Barrett article to
- 1:18:19connected articles
- 1:18:22and then you can search those articles
- 1:18:26as well.
- 1:18:30Research Rabbit also connects with
- 1:18:35plugins.
- 1:18:37Uh go ahead Lena. I have a question
- 1:18:40because I used connected papers. Have
- 1:18:43you heard of it? Because it looks very
- 1:18:45similar. So, I'd like to know if you
- 1:18:47know there's a difference.
- 1:18:49Oh,
- 1:18:49>> okay. No, I haven't used connected
- 1:18:51papers.
- 1:18:52>> Oh, okay.
- 1:18:53>> Is it uh similar with the research how
- 1:18:56it brings up?
- 1:18:57>> Yeah, very very similar. The mapping
- 1:18:59they look very similar like the same
- 1:19:02thing.
- 1:19:03>> Yes. So there will be many types of
- 1:19:05applications that offer similar types of
- 1:19:08uh output like chatgpt copilot etc.
- 1:19:11They're large language models. It's good
- 1:19:13to keep in mind the ones that you like
- 1:19:15that are working for you.
- 1:19:17Anic
- 1:19:21>> uh I was wondering is
- 1:19:23like what you're getting is it from all
- 1:19:27possible databases like you know uh from
- 1:19:32because like I remember well I mean I
- 1:19:34haven't done any search in a while but
- 1:19:37uh I remember you you had to pay to
- 1:19:40access some databases. Uh so is it now
- 1:19:44like [laughter]
- 1:19:46like accessible like is everything on
- 1:19:50the web so those tools will get
- 1:19:52everything or like is it like just those
- 1:19:55that are in North America or from some
- 1:19:59dates or anyway um it's a good question
- 1:20:03and I actually there's um an article
- 1:20:06that I share I think it's in next week's
- 1:20:10next week's uh session that it talks
- 1:20:13about the limitations and some copyright
- 1:20:16infringements that some large language
- 1:20:18models experience as well with payw
- 1:20:21walls. And so when you're asking about
- 1:20:24can I access some of these articles that
- 1:20:26are blocked, sometimes you can. And
- 1:20:27that's um that's because the large
- 1:20:32language model is able to access that um
- 1:20:37seamlessly and it's infringing on
- 1:20:40copyright laws. So there are some
- 1:20:42ethical principles that come along with
- 1:20:44this but uh with the sourcing you can
- 1:20:47see the link as well and sometimes there
- 1:20:51are dead links and so it's always
- 1:20:53important is this a source that I want
- 1:20:55to use? Is this a journal that's
- 1:20:57reputable? Is this research um is it is
- 1:21:03it does it actually exist?
- 1:21:05>> I see. So it's it's one tool, but if I
- 1:21:08were to write a scientific article, I
- 1:21:12would still go back to the, you know,
- 1:21:14doing a search in the databases. Okay.
- 1:21:17>> Like the good old times.
- 1:21:20>> Yes. It helps you find that research.
- 1:21:23>> Mhm.
- 1:21:24>> And link the additional research, but
- 1:21:27make sure that that research is
- 1:21:28existing.
- 1:21:29>> There's so many um links that I find
- 1:21:32with some of these tools. like I can
- 1:21:34enter a similar uh these tools give me
- 1:21:37better research. So I can enter a
- 1:21:39similar prompt in chat GPT and I'll get
- 1:21:41five out of 10 that are dead links like
- 1:21:43they don't exist. And so some of these
- 1:21:46tools are better than large language
- 1:21:48models because they're uh they're meant
- 1:21:51for research
- 1:21:52>> like this.
- 1:21:54>> Okay. Thank you.
- 1:21:55>> You're welcome, Anick. That's a good
- 1:21:57question. Jessica,
- 1:22:00>> hi. So, I can't help but um comment. So,
- 1:22:04I'm prefacing this by I'm an academic
- 1:22:07librarian here in Canada and so an um I
- 1:22:11would say that
- 1:22:13>> um consensus.
- 1:22:15>> Yes.
- 1:22:17Oh, I think I lost somebody. Um go
- 1:22:21ahead. Consensus and perplexity research
- 1:22:23rabbit and several other platforms are
- 1:22:27unique from say chatg clott or large
- 1:22:30language models they use something
- 1:22:32called um retrieval augmented generation
- 1:22:35which is called rag and if you look at
- 1:22:37their websites they've made legal
- 1:22:40agreements with the really big
- 1:22:42publishers so sage and wy and Taylor and
- 1:22:45Francis and um oh Blackwell and all of
- 1:22:49those folks. So when they make a claim
- 1:22:51like they have 400 million articles or
- 1:22:55millions and millions of results, they
- 1:22:57are pulling them from reputable
- 1:22:59collections that they've gotten
- 1:23:00permission to do. We can have a whole
- 1:23:02another discussion on whether or not the
- 1:23:04publisher should be doing that ethically
- 1:23:06with the copyright they hold, but that's
- 1:23:08what they're doing with their agreements
- 1:23:10for publication. Um, so it is in in at
- 1:23:15least in the places that I've worked, we
- 1:23:18do put them in a different box than or
- 1:23:21claude or something where they don't
- 1:23:23have those agreements. They are pulling
- 1:23:25things in a much less transparent way.
- 1:23:27They don't have the same scopes or the
- 1:23:30same uh parameters to kind of help keep
- 1:23:32them in the academic realm. So just take
- 1:23:36that as you will.
- 1:23:39>> That's great information, Jessica. Thank
- 1:23:40you for sharing that.
- 1:23:45Okay, I'm going to change my screen
- 1:23:47over.
- 1:23:51So, those are just some examples of
- 1:23:53additional tools to explore for
- 1:23:56different purposes of writing. So, are
- 1:23:58you researching? Are you editing? Are
- 1:24:02are you generating ideas?
- 1:24:06Okay. So, I want to explore this concept
- 1:24:08by Dr. Sarah Elaine Eaton and this is
- 1:24:13the six tenets of pl of post plagiarism
- 1:24:18writing in the age of AI. And so
- 1:24:22just quickly,
- 1:24:24hybrid human AI writing will become the
- 1:24:27normal.
- 1:24:29Hybrid writing co-created by human and
- 1:24:31AI together is becoming prevalent. Soon
- 1:24:34it will be the normal. Trying to
- 1:24:36determine where the human ends and where
- 1:24:38the artificial AI begins is pointless
- 1:24:41and futile.
- 1:24:44The second tenant is human creativity is
- 1:24:46enhanced. Human creativity is enhanced,
- 1:24:49not threatened by AI. Humans can be
- 1:24:52inspired and be inspired by others.
- 1:24:56Language barriers disappear. One's first
- 1:24:59language will begin to matter less and
- 1:25:00less as tools become available for
- 1:25:02humans to understand each other in
- 1:25:04countless languages.
- 1:25:07Humans can relinquish control, but not
- 1:25:10responsibility.
- 1:25:12Humans can retain control over what they
- 1:25:14write, but they can also relinquish
- 1:25:16control to AI tools if they choose.
- 1:25:19Although humans can relinquish control,
- 1:25:21they do not relinquish responsibility
- 1:25:23for what is written. And so I think that
- 1:25:26answers many questions back to when
- 1:25:30you're asking how do I how do I sort out
- 1:25:33what I'm trying to say if AI is writing
- 1:25:36all of this info. It's still your
- 1:25:38responsibility. That information you put
- 1:25:41out there is still your responsibility.
- 1:25:43And so make sure that you're reviewing
- 1:25:46the work including the human.
- 1:25:49Uh attribution remains important. It's
- 1:25:51always been
- 1:25:53uh
- 1:25:55and humans learn in community with one
- 1:25:57another even when they are learning
- 1:25:59alone. Citing, referencing, and
- 1:26:01attribution rem remain important skills.
- 1:26:05And historical definitions of plagiarism
- 1:26:08no longer apply. Historical definition
- 1:26:11of plagiarism will not be rewritten
- 1:26:13because AI they will be transcended.
- 1:26:17policy definitions can and must adapt.
- 1:26:23Okay, so these are some considerations
- 1:26:26as well when you're using AI in your
- 1:26:29classroom, in your workplaces. How are
- 1:26:32you using AI?
- 1:26:35Um, and here are some questions to
- 1:26:37consider. I won't read them all out
- 1:26:38loud. I do want to get you into your
- 1:26:41breakout groups, but if you have
- 1:26:44questions, let me know.
- 1:26:49Okay. So,
- 1:26:51we have 20 minutes for this breakout
- 1:26:55session. So, what we'll do and I'll
- 1:26:58launch this activity.
- 1:27:03So,
- 1:27:06just building on that thought of the uh
- 1:27:10post plagiarism concept,
- 1:27:13tell your students what you allow. Every
- 1:27:15college and university has an AI honest
- 1:27:18or academic dishonesty statement.
- 1:27:21However, these statements are either
- 1:27:22written so broadly that there can be
- 1:27:24different interpretations of the
- 1:27:25language or these statements indicate
- 1:27:28that the responsibility of determining
- 1:27:30what is allowable depends on the
- 1:27:32instructor or both.
- 1:27:35So
- 1:27:38this is an AI policy from the UC San
- 1:27:41Diego's academic honesty policy. There's
- 1:27:44highlighted sections here that I want
- 1:27:47you to focus on and this is going to be
- 1:27:49your discussion post and you'll work in
- 1:27:53small groups. And so for this week's
- 1:27:55discussion post, I want you to work in
- 1:27:58your breakout groups and examine these
- 1:28:02statements. So no student shall allow
- 1:28:05any academic work or academic credit to
- 1:28:08be completed or obtained in part or in
- 1:28:11whole for themselves by another human or
- 1:28:14machine artificial intelligence.
- 1:28:17So this is a policy by UC San Diego.
- 1:28:21D. No student shall plagiarize or copy
- 1:28:23the work of others, human or machine,
- 1:28:25and submit it as their own work. and E.
- 1:28:28No student shall employ aids, including
- 1:28:30AI, in undertaking coursework or
- 1:28:33completing any assessments that are not
- 1:28:36authorized by the instructor.
- 1:28:39There are four questions under here
- 1:28:41underneath. This is your task is to
- 1:28:44respond and discuss this in your
- 1:28:46breakout groups.
- 1:28:50Which is which of these is a example of
- 1:28:53a violation of the policy? It's up to
- 1:28:55you to determine based on your
- 1:28:57interpretation of the policy. And so I
- 1:29:01want you to go into your breakout rooms,
- 1:29:05review C, D, and E highlights,
- 1:29:10and go through each of these questions
- 1:29:15in the discussion post for this week.
- 1:29:18Volunteer. If one person can volunteer
- 1:29:20from each group to post the result and
- 1:29:25include everyone in your group their
- 1:29:28names.
- 1:29:32Does everyone have access to this
- 1:29:34breakout uh link
- 1:29:38>> to the document?
- 1:29:40>> Yes.
- 1:29:40>> Yes.
- 1:29:42>> Excellent. Okay. So, I'm going to open
- 1:29:43up a breakout room. It's 7:45 right now.
- 1:29:47Um, I'm thinking I'm going to leave the
- 1:29:52uh leave the breakout rooms open
- 1:29:54extended beyond the class time so that
- 1:29:57you can have extra time in case, but you
- 1:30:00won't need to come back to the main
- 1:30:03room. Okay, I'll give you guys time to
- 1:30:06work together
- 1:30:07and then nominate someone to post it
- 1:30:11into the breakout group. Oh, thank you
- 1:30:13Embra. Thank you for sharing that.
- 1:30:17Are there any questions about this task?
- 1:30:22>> Sorry, I just wanted to clarify
- 1:30:24something. So, we we go in the breakout
- 1:30:26sess uh rooms and then on the discussion
- 1:30:29post, we post as a group. Yes.
- 1:30:31>> So, one person post Okay.
- 1:30:33>> One person will post and that one person
- 1:30:35will list everybody's name who was in
- 1:30:37the group.
- 1:30:39>> Okay. So feel free to make a copy of
- 1:30:41this document and
- 1:30:44I'll visit uh Bill and I will visit your
- 1:30:46breakout rooms
- 1:30:49>> and is it necessary to make the post
- 1:30:51today?
- 1:30:52>> Your post will be due ne by next
- 1:30:55Tuesday. So just before the next class
- 1:30:58thank you.
- 1:31:00>> Thank you Jennifer.
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