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Serial Killer Documentary: Henry Lee Lucas (The Confession Killer) — Transcript

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  1. 0:06[Applause]
  2. 0:16in stoneberg Texas on July 11th 1983 a
  3. 0:19Drifter named Henry Lee Lucas was
  4. 0:21arrested for the illegal possession of a
  5. 0:23firearm as a convicted felon he wasn't
  6. 0:26allowed to have one Lucas was 46 at the
  7. 0:30the time and a suspect in the case of
  8. 0:32two missing women but thus far the leads
  9. 0:34were tenuous investigators were relieved
  10. 0:37to be able to lock him up for even a
  11. 0:39minor infraction because they figured
  12. 0:41that once he was in custody they could
  13. 0:43get him to talk about the women he'd
  14. 0:44known Kate Rich 82 and Becky Powell just
  15. 0:48a girl at 15 had been Lucas's
  16. 0:51companion Witnesses had seen him with
  17. 0:53Kate on the day she disappeared The
  18. 0:56oneeyed Drifter just looked like bad
  19. 0:58news waiting to happen at the very least
  20. 1:01he should be able to tell them why Becky
  21. 1:03was no longer with them Lucas was not
  22. 1:06happy about being locked up especially
  23. 1:08because it kept him from coffee and
  24. 1:10cigarettes he said that he'd been on the
  25. 1:12verge of helping to find Kate but now
  26. 1:14they could do without his
  27. 1:16assistance he was placed in a small cell
  28. 1:19in the monague county jail Lucas claimed
  29. 1:22later probably lying that the police had
  30. 1:24treated him badly stripping him denying
  31. 1:26him cigarettes holding him in a
  32. 1:28substandard cell and prohibiting his
  33. 1:30contact with an attorney he'd endured it
  34. 1:33for a period of 4 days and then decided
  35. 1:35to get their
  36. 1:37attention while talking with one of the
  37. 1:39jailers Joe Dawn Lucas admitted that
  38. 1:41he'd done some bad things as if to
  39. 1:44mitigate it he said that he tried and
  40. 1:46failed to get help I've killed for the
  41. 1:49past 10 years he confessed and no one
  42. 1:51will believe
  43. 1:52me clearly he was ready to talk so
  44. 1:55investigators were positive that they'd
  45. 1:57soon have the information they needed to
  46. 1:59wrap up these two cases indeed they did
  47. 2:03and then some Lucas's story is told in
  48. 2:07two full length books the confessions of
  49. 2:09Henry Lee Lucas by Mike Cox and hands of
  50. 2:12death by Max call although call
  51. 2:15apparently believed everything that
  52. 2:16Lucas said which in light of the details
  53. 2:19following makes his book less than
  54. 2:21credible Lucas has also been featured in
  55. 2:23several television documentaries such as
  56. 2:25A&E's myth of a serial killer and the
  57. 2:281986 movie Henry portrait of a serial
  58. 2:31killer which was recently released in a
  59. 2:3320th anniversary edition the road a 1988
  60. 2:37play by David Earl Jones was also based
  61. 2:39on stories Lucas
  62. 2:41told after admitting that he killed
  63. 2:43Lucas was charged with the murders of
  64. 2:45Kate rich and Freda Becky Powell he gave
  65. 2:48the authorities plenty of evidence
  66. 2:50including the decomposed pieces of Becky
  67. 2:53and at his June 21st arraignment in the
  68. 2:55monague County courtroom Lucas stated
  69. 2:57that he'd stabbed Kate Rich to death
  70. 3:00but then he went on waving his right to
  71. 3:02an attorney to say that he'd had sex
  72. 3:04with the body cut it into pieces and
  73. 3:07burned it in a wood stove behind his
  74. 3:09cabin I killed Kate Rich he told a
  75. 3:12courtroom full of curious cops and
  76. 3:14reporters and at least 100
  77. 3:17more the reaction was a stunned
  78. 3:21silence 100 either this guy was an out
  79. 3:24andout liar or he was about to
  80. 3:27officially become the most proficient
  81. 3:28serial killer in American
  82. 3:31history the judge asked Lucas if he'd
  83. 3:33ever been diagnosed by psychiatrist and
  84. 3:35he said he hadn't he was lying since
  85. 3:38he'd had several assessments during
  86. 3:40Stinson prison yet he added I know it
  87. 3:43ain't normal for a person to go out and
  88. 3:45kill girls just have sex with them in
  89. 3:48response to the judge's next question
  90. 3:50Lucas believed he was competent to stand
  91. 3:52trial so he was granted a public
  92. 3:54defender Don Maxfield to represent him
  93. 3:57when the judge entered a plea of not
  94. 3:59guilty for Lucas The Drifter asked will
  95. 4:01I still be able to go on helping find
  96. 4:03bodies he was urged to discuss it with
  97. 4:06his
  98. 4:07attorney by June 22nd thanks to a front
  99. 4:10page story Henry Lee Lucas had become a
  100. 4:13nationally famous serial
  101. 4:15killer the Texas Department of Public
  102. 4:17Safety had plenty of unsolved murder
  103. 4:19cases on the books and it appeared that
  104. 4:21Lucas was good for some of them the
  105. 4:24officers began the process by contacting
  106. 4:26other jurisdictions around the state to
  107. 4:28facilitate interviews between Lucas and
  108. 4:30relevant law enforcement officials word
  109. 4:33spread as well to officers in other
  110. 4:35states with open murder cases since
  111. 4:37Lucas had drifted around the country for
  112. 4:39several years his descriptions just
  113. 4:42might fit their Jane do so they were
  114. 4:44granted interviews in fact when an
  115. 4:47officer mentioned to the prisoner where
  116. 4:48he was from Lucas would often say oh
  117. 4:51yeah I got me some there in your
  118. 4:54area not everyone believed him and those
  119. 4:57with doubt sought corroborating evidence
  120. 4:59but it often seemed that Lucas with his
  121. 5:02prodigious memory offered details about
  122. 5:04a murder that had not been printed in
  123. 5:06the Press so his description seemed
  124. 5:08credible he also told them that he knew
  125. 5:11how not to leave evidence and in many
  126. 5:13cases his confession was the only thing
  127. 5:16that tied him to a body that made the
  128. 5:18requirement for corroboration
  129. 5:21difficult those officers who coordinated
  130. 5:23the interviews urged all incoming
  131. 5:25detectives to follow a careful protocol
  132. 5:28But ultimately it it was the job of each
  133. 5:30jurisdiction to decide if they accepted
  134. 5:32Lucas as the killer they sought for the
  135. 5:35court three psychiatrists were appointed
  136. 5:37to examine Lucas and although a gag
  137. 5:39order was imposed reporters flocked to
  138. 5:42Texas to try to get whatever they could
  139. 5:44if only a quote from a grocery clerk who
  140. 5:46had served the homely Outlaw some coffee
  141. 5:49his notoriety blossomed and several
  142. 5:51television news shows requested tapes of
  143. 5:54interviews Lucas signed statements about
  144. 5:56specific murders and offered drawings of
  145. 5:58more than S 70 bodies to officers who
  146. 6:01came or requested information and he
  147. 6:03soon had seven cases cleared including
  148. 6:06one that would become famously linked to
  149. 6:08him he described a woman he killed in
  150. 6:101979 and dumped several years earlier in
  151. 6:13a culvert off Interstate 35 north of
  152. 6:16Georgetown Texas when found she wore
  153. 6:19only a pair of orange socks so the
  154. 6:21officers had dubbed her orange socks
  155. 6:24Lucas not only described her and
  156. 6:26confessed to killing her in several
  157. 6:27statements but also took officers
  158. 6:30straight to where he dumped her over
  159. 6:33several months he offered more summaries
  160. 6:35for murders for which he had not yet
  161. 6:36been questioned including a husband and
  162. 6:39wife in one Texas County who'd owned a
  163. 6:41liquor store sometimes he murdered to
  164. 6:43Rob and then eliminate Witnesses other
  165. 6:46times he just enjoyed the transient
  166. 6:48feeling of power it gave him usually
  167. 6:51he'd quickly killed the girls or women
  168. 6:52he'd picked up because he preferred
  169. 6:54sexual contact with a corpse although
  170. 6:56Steven Edgar who interviewed him
  171. 6:58indicates in serial murder an elusive
  172. 7:00phenomenon that he was impotent to me he
  173. 7:03said in an interview aive woman ain't
  174. 7:07nothing Lucas generally used a knife or
  175. 7:09strangled them but he was an advocate
  176. 7:12for trying different methods so as to
  177. 7:14not leave a pattern that police might
  178. 7:16link together he appeared to be quite
  179. 7:18buoyant about his arrest according to
  180. 7:20American Justice and to accept with
  181. 7:22complacency that he could get the death
  182. 7:24penalty it seemed that being in prison
  183. 7:27suited him just fine espe especially
  184. 7:29because he was treated well and probably
  185. 7:31had better food and shelter than he was
  186. 7:33used to he did all he could to cooperate
  187. 7:36and the officers generally found him
  188. 7:38congenial nevertheless he would prove to
  189. 7:41be a
  190. 7:42trickster Lucas was arraigned for the
  191. 7:44orange socks murder on August 2nd 1983
  192. 7:48but in a surprised turnaround on August
  193. 7:5012th claimed that he was not guilty of
  194. 7:52Becky Powell's murder despite his
  195. 7:54initial statements at the end of
  196. 7:56September he waved his right to a trial
  197. 7:58for the murder of Kate rich and pled
  198. 8:00guilty receiving a sentence of 75
  199. 8:03years the following month his attorney
  200. 8:06asked the judge to consider throwing out
  201. 8:07Lucas's written and videotaped
  202. 8:09statements about his murder of Becky
  203. 8:11Powell on the tape Lucas was shown
  204. 8:13calmly describing how he killed and
  205. 8:15dismembered her and had sexual contact
  206. 8:17with the corpse so the judge decided the
  207. 8:19material would be admissible in addition
  208. 8:22the option of pleading Not Guilty by
  209. 8:24reason of insanity was denied that left
  210. 8:27Lucas's Defender with few options but it
  211. 8:29was Lucas himself who proved to be his
  212. 8:31own defender's greatest
  213. 8:34hurdle Lucas not only went to trial that
  214. 8:37November but also testified on his own
  215. 8:39behalf and seemed to hope to be
  216. 8:41convicted his attorney was Tom Whitlock
  217. 8:44who argued that Lucas had not intended
  218. 8:46to kill Becky on the stand a tearful
  219. 8:49Lucas admitted to Becky's murder but
  220. 8:51said he didn't know quite how it
  221. 8:53happened and he was full of remorse over
  222. 8:55it then after he was convicted and
  223. 8:58received a life sentence he
  224. 8:59congratulated the prosecutor with you
  225. 9:02did a good job Lucas then issued a
  226. 9:04statement to the effect that he'd not
  227. 9:06tried to win because he didn't want to
  228. 9:09previously he bragged to police that he
  229. 9:11was smart and could get out of anything
  230. 9:13if he wanted to his next trial would be
  231. 9:16for orange socks but this time it would
  232. 9:19be a capital crime where the death
  233. 9:21penalty was a possibility before that
  234. 9:23occurred Lucas got back in touch with an
  235. 9:25old friend and traveling partner Odus
  236. 9:27tulle if not for Otis he'd never have
  237. 9:30met
  238. 9:31Becky in 1976 after years in prison for
  239. 9:35various crimes Lucas had teamed up in
  240. 9:37Florida with arsonist and serial killer
  241. 9:39Otis Elwood TL 29 who enjoyed mutilating
  242. 9:43corpses they met says David Frasier in
  243. 9:46murder cases of the 20th century in a
  244. 9:48skid row Rescue Mission in
  245. 9:50Jacksonville although he's often been
  246. 9:52cast in Lucas's Shadow tuel had his own
  247. 9:55gruesome story and in the end it made be
  248. 9:59that he was in fact the more degenerate
  249. 10:01of the two of them he was a great school
  250. 10:04dropout with an IQ just above mentally
  251. 10:06and supposedly he'd been
  252. 10:09introduced to sex before the age of 10
  253. 10:11by his older sister and a gay
  254. 10:13neighbor tulle was born on March 5th
  255. 10:161947 in Jacksonville Florida abandoned
  256. 10:19by his alcoholic father he grew up in
  257. 10:21the custody of his mother whom he claims
  258. 10:23dressed him as a girl and his sister his
  259. 10:26mother supposedly was a religious
  260. 10:28fanatic while T's grandmother had been a
  261. 10:30Satanist writes Michael Newton in the
  262. 10:32encyclopedia of serial killers and had
  263. 10:34dubbed him the devil's child he'd watch
  264. 10:37her dig up Graves in search of body
  265. 10:39parts to use in her
  266. 10:41rituals already a Serial arsonist
  267. 10:44getting erotic enjoyment out of the
  268. 10:45fires he set and frequent runaway he
  269. 10:48committed his first murder at age 14 a
  270. 10:52traveling salesman had picked him up for
  271. 10:53sex and once they were in the woods tul
  272. 10:56ran the man over with his own car and
  273. 10:59and yet he dressed in drag to hunt for
  274. 11:01dates at the rescue
  275. 11:02mission TL was suspected in four other
  276. 11:05murders across the country before he met
  277. 11:07Lucas in Florida these involved
  278. 11:09shootings in Nebraska and Colorado and
  279. 11:11two stabbings in Colorado tulle had been
  280. 11:14married briefly but his wife managed to
  281. 11:16spend only 3 days with him before she
  282. 11:18departed in retrospect it's no
  283. 11:21wonder when tul met Lucas at the soup
  284. 11:24kitchen they went home together to have
  285. 11:26sex and soon became regular lovers
  286. 11:29apparently they recognized the kindred
  287. 11:31soul in each other so they traveled the
  288. 11:33country from 1978 until
  289. 11:361982 Lucas gave an interview in which he
  290. 11:38said that he had to re-educate tulle in
  291. 11:40the art of murder which became the basis
  292. 11:43for Henry portrait of a serial killer
  293. 11:45having studied prison records of how men
  294. 11:47were caught he wanted to be certain that
  295. 11:49tulle could follow directions and avoid
  296. 11:52detection he was doing his crimes all
  297. 11:54one way Lucas said I started to correct
  298. 11:57him in his ways in doing the crime where
  299. 12:00he wouldn't leave
  300. 12:02information they traveled together from
  301. 12:04one state to another reportedly 26
  302. 12:06States in DC and their favorite prey
  303. 12:08were female hitchhikers for Lucas or
  304. 12:10males for tulle but they also
  305. 12:13slaughtered people they robbed Lucas
  306. 12:15indicated that he had no feelings for
  307. 12:17any of the people they picked up he'd
  308. 12:19have a good time with them and then kill
  309. 12:21them and dump them out along the side of
  310. 12:23the road one time he'd even ridden
  311. 12:25across two states with the head of a
  312. 12:27victim in his back seat before before he
  313. 12:29realized he'd kept it during that time
  314. 12:32tul is mentioned in some accounts as
  315. 12:34having introduced Lucas to the Hand of
  316. 12:36Death cult telling them how they killed
  317. 12:38children for sacrifice to Satan Max call
  318. 12:42describes what they did in service to
  319. 12:43this cult supposedly learning to use
  320. 12:46rape as a tool of punishment and murder
  321. 12:48as part of the cult's overall plan they
  322. 12:51trained people like Otis and Henry to
  323. 12:53become killing machines however there
  324. 12:56was no corroboration for this story so
  325. 12:58law enforcement dismissed it as the
  326. 12:59imagination of a loser trying to seem
  327. 13:02more special than he
  328. 13:03was in 1977 tul married a woman 24 years
  329. 13:07his senior and insisted that she share
  330. 13:09him with Lucas according to interview
  331. 13:12she later gave he told her he couldn't
  332. 13:14perform with a woman unless he also knew
  333. 13:17he could get a man so the following year
  334. 13:19they
  335. 13:20separated Lucas's story is equally
  336. 13:22sorted and it Bears some odd
  337. 13:25similarities Lucas was born on August
  338. 13:2823rd 1936 In the Backwoods of Virginia
  339. 13:31to a man who' lost both legs in a train
  340. 13:33accident some sources say this was his
  341. 13:35stepfather and a woman named Viola a
  342. 13:38half Chipawa who made a living for her
  343. 13:40small family with prostitution and
  344. 13:42bootlegging reportedly she was mean when
  345. 13:45she drank Lucas said that she'd
  346. 13:47entertain clients in front of him his
  347. 13:49brother and his father some sources
  348. 13:51indicate he had eight siblings he even
  349. 13:54claims difficult as it is to believe
  350. 13:57that when he walked out one time into
  351. 13:58discussed his mother found him and beat
  352. 14:00him for not watching her with the client
  353. 14:03he also said that she used to dress him
  354. 14:05up as a little girl which humiliated him
  355. 14:07Edgar says that a half-sister claimed to
  356. 14:09have a picture of Henry with curls and
  357. 14:11wearing a
  358. 14:12dress psychologists who later evaluated
  359. 14:15Lucas indicated that his hatred of his
  360. 14:17mother was the source of his violent
  361. 14:19misogyny Lucas's father reportedly
  362. 14:21dragged himself outside into the snow
  363. 14:23one day and contracted a fatal case of
  364. 14:26pneumonia once when he was
  365. 14:29his mother struck him in the head with a
  366. 14:30wooden board he claimed that she knocked
  367. 14:33him out for a period of 3 days some
  368. 14:35sources say one day others indicate 11
  369. 14:38hours and therefore he suffered from
  370. 14:40headaches dizzy spells and blackouts he
  371. 14:43also took a knife wound to his left eye
  372. 14:45which left him with a vulnerable area on
  373. 14:47his face that would soon hurt in an
  374. 14:49accident at school his damaged eye was
  375. 14:51replaced with a glass eye that left him
  376. 14:53with a drooping eyelid according to
  377. 14:56Edgar children who knew him found him
  378. 14:58sullen and
  379. 14:59antisocial another story Lucas told is
  380. 15:02that one of his mother's lovers got him
  381. 15:04interested in beastiality with the slain
  382. 15:06carcasses of dogs and
  383. 15:08sheep he first killed someone he said
  384. 15:10just before he turned 15 in
  385. 15:131951 the reason he murdered this teenage
  386. 15:16girl was to see what it was like to have
  387. 15:18sex with a human or so The Story
  388. 15:21Goes Lucas certainly enjoyed the
  389. 15:23reactions his tales received and
  390. 15:25interviewers duly wrote them down in
  391. 15:281952 Lucas got in trouble with the law
  392. 15:32on June 12th 1952 he burglarized an
  393. 15:34appliance store and was sent to a
  394. 15:36Reformatory for 2 years upon release he
  395. 15:39committed a felony and got four years at
  396. 15:41the Virginia State Penitentiary he
  397. 15:44escaped stole a car and made his way to
  398. 15:46Michigan where he was arrested and
  399. 15:48returned to prison when he was finally
  400. 15:50done with the sentence he went to live
  401. 15:51with his half sister into Comey Michigan
  402. 15:54then his mother came for a visit she was
  403. 15:5674 at the time
  404. 15:59on January 11th 1960 after drinking too
  405. 16:02much Lucas and his mother got into an
  406. 16:04argument supposedly over a woman Lucas
  407. 16:06wanted to marry he grabbed a knife and
  408. 16:09plunged it into her neck he remembered
  409. 16:11only that he knocked her a little and
  410. 16:13she had a heart attack Lucas was
  411. 16:15convicted of second deegree murder and
  412. 16:17sent to a state prison in Southern
  413. 16:19Michigan there he tried to commit
  414. 16:21suicide and was transferred to a
  415. 16:22forensic psychiatric
  416. 16:24hospital for his mother's murder he
  417. 16:26served 10 years of a 20e sentence but
  418. 16:29then as soon as he was released he got 3
  419. 16:31and A2 years for trying to kidnap two
  420. 16:34girls once he was out he moved to
  421. 16:36Pennsylvania and got married in 1975 but
  422. 16:39abandoned his wife when she accused him
  423. 16:41of molesting her daughters that's when
  424. 16:44the oneeyed killer started to
  425. 16:46travel in Florida he took up with TL and
  426. 16:49they went cross country together for a
  427. 16:52while T's orphaned nephew and niece
  428. 16:54Frank and Becky Powell came with them
  429. 16:56Lucas had started having sex with Becky
  430. 16:58when she was only 12 while they'd been
  431. 17:00rolling around on a bed tickling each
  432. 17:02other she seemed willing to do anything
  433. 17:05to be with them and he later said he
  434. 17:07grew to love her he liked that she
  435. 17:09seemed to accept everything he
  436. 17:11said when T's mother died in 1981 he
  437. 17:14started drinking and taking drugs around
  438. 17:17this time on July 27th 6-year-old Adam
  439. 17:20Walsh disappeared from a shopping mall
  440. 17:22on August 10th his head was found in a
  441. 17:24canal ditch in Vero Beach Tua later
  442. 17:27claimed to be his killer and this murder
  443. 17:29precipitated the show America's Most
  444. 17:31Wanted hosted by Adam's Father John
  445. 17:34Walsh the assistant police chief
  446. 17:36believed him but then later cleared him
  447. 17:38as a suspect and he did recant this
  448. 17:41crime Lucas took Becky with him in 1982
  449. 17:44because he wanted her to himself and
  450. 17:46tulle was so angered by their betrayal
  451. 17:49that he allegedly killed nine people in
  452. 17:51six different states in the course of 13
  453. 17:53months he was caught in Florida burning
  454. 17:55a building and was imprisoned with a
  455. 17:5720-year sentence he admitted to having
  456. 17:59set some 40 fires but that did not bring
  457. 18:03back his former lover or his niece in
  458. 18:06fact tulle would never see Becky
  459. 18:09again in the meantime Lucas had wandered
  460. 18:12around Texas with his child bride
  461. 18:14finally settling with Kate Rich however
  462. 18:17relatives disliked them and kicked them
  463. 18:19out according to the American Justice
  464. 18:21documentary they found a new home near
  465. 18:23stoneberg in a Pentecostal commune a
  466. 18:25former chicken ranch known as the house
  467. 18:28of prayer the head of the group Ruben
  468. 18:30Moore was both a lay Minister and a
  469. 18:33contractor so he gave Lucas and Becky
  470. 18:36who claimed to be husband and wife a
  471. 18:38shack to live in Edgar says a trailer
  472. 18:41and hired Lucas for some odd
  473. 18:43jobs Max call indicates that Lucas left
  474. 18:46Florida when he did to avoid
  475. 18:47implications in the murder of a female
  476. 18:49school teacher and he also writes that
  477. 18:51the new digs in Texas had connections to
  478. 18:53the Hand of Death cult in which Lucas
  479. 18:55was supposedly a member call also Des
  480. 18:58described Kate Smith as a member
  481. 19:00suggesting that she paid Lucas for
  482. 19:01activities involving organized crime
  483. 19:04there's no reason to suppose any of that
  484. 19:06was
  485. 19:07true according to the story Lucas told
  486. 19:10Becky eventually tired of the living
  487. 19:12conditions and wanted to return home on
  488. 19:14August 24th 1982 the day after Lucas's
  489. 19:17birthday Becky argued with him saying
  490. 19:20she missed her family but Lucas was
  491. 19:22afraid that he'd lose her if they went
  492. 19:24back so he resisted he also knew he
  493. 19:27faced a warrant for stealing a truck but
  494. 19:29Becky would not give up she pouted and
  495. 19:32cried so he finally relented and told
  496. 19:35her to get ready to
  497. 19:36go because he had no license plates on
  498. 19:39his car he decided they should hitchhike
  499. 19:41and they got a ride as far as Denton
  500. 19:43Texas north of Dallas Lucas then got a
  501. 19:46six-pack of beer and tried again to
  502. 19:48persuade Becky to give up the idea she
  503. 19:51argued back which reminded Lucas of his
  504. 19:53mother and then Becky slapped him he'd
  505. 19:57reacted by killing her with a meat
  506. 19:58carving knife shoving it straight into
  507. 20:00her chest he was angry he later said
  508. 20:04that she just would not take
  509. 20:05responsibility for herself to his horror
  510. 20:09she died quickly she was gone before I
  511. 20:11knew it then right next to the
  512. 20:14interstate on a blanket that Becky had
  513. 20:16spread for them to sleep he raped the
  514. 20:18corpse he thought it was the best sex
  515. 20:21he'd ever had with her he then removed
  516. 20:24her head dismembered her removing her
  517. 20:26hands with special care and cut the
  518. 20:28trunk of her body into two large pieces
  519. 20:31the person who once had been Becky now
  520. 20:33lay there in nine pieces these he placed
  521. 20:36into a pillowcase but then he removed
  522. 20:38them and just scattered them around a
  523. 20:40nearby field he also dumped Becky's
  524. 20:42purse in a small suitcase no one knew
  525. 20:45them around these parts he figured so no
  526. 20:47one could trace it later he expressed
  527. 20:49regret because he claimed that he truly
  528. 20:51loved
  529. 20:53Becky once he cleaned off her blood he
  530. 20:55hitched her ride back to the house of
  531. 20:57prayer and told more than the others
  532. 20:58that Becky had gotten into a truck and
  533. 21:00left him then a couple of weeks later he
  534. 21:03returned to the area to bury some of the
  535. 21:04remains in a shallow hole near a cops of
  536. 21:07trees within another week he was
  537. 21:09contemplating another murder it was
  538. 21:13about 3 weeks after Becky's demise on
  539. 21:15September 16th the things went sour with
  540. 21:17Kate Rich Lucas went into Ringold where
  541. 21:20she lived knocked on her door and asked
  542. 21:23if she wanted to help him look for Becky
  543. 21:25or so he told the Rangers she to go
  544. 21:28happy to get out of the house and Lucas
  545. 21:30stopped first for beer on the car seat
  546. 21:33between them was a butcher's
  547. 21:35knife Lucas clearly had something else
  548. 21:38in mind since he knew that Becky was
  549. 21:40dead whether or not Kate questioned him
  550. 21:42about going north the wrong direction is
  551. 21:45anyone's
  552. 21:46guess Lucas had downed a lot of beer
  553. 21:49when he said he was seized with the idea
  554. 21:50of killing Kate he drove down a dirt
  555. 21:53road past a campground and then stopped
  556. 21:55the car he grabbed the knife and shov
  557. 21:58DED it into Kate's left side pushing her
  558. 22:00against the door he pulled the knife out
  559. 22:02and went around to the passenger side
  560. 22:05when he opened the door Kate fell onto
  561. 22:06the ground she was dead from a wound to
  562. 22:09her heart Lucas was immediately aroused
  563. 22:13so he pulled the corpse down an
  564. 22:14embankment and removed the clothing I
  565. 22:17got naked he told the Rangers and
  566. 22:19screwed her until I finished he then
  567. 22:21dragged her to a large drainage pipe
  568. 22:23near the road he shoved both the corpse
  569. 22:26and the clothing into it as far as he
  570. 22:27could until he felt certain no one would
  571. 22:30find her the next day Lucas left the
  572. 22:32house of prayer and took off getting as
  573. 22:35far as Needles California before the car
  574. 22:37gave out but Lucas wasn't finished with
  575. 22:40Kate he drifted for a month and then
  576. 22:42returned to where he'd hidden the body
  577. 22:45he learned that he was suspected in her
  578. 22:46disappearance and endured a polygraph
  579. 22:48examination but he got away with it no
  580. 22:52one arrested him Lucas retrieved the
  581. 22:54decomposing remains and put them into a
  582. 22:56stove at the house of prayer to to
  583. 22:58incinerate them after his confession
  584. 23:01investigators went to where Lucas had
  585. 23:02indicated he'd killed Kate and found the
  586. 23:04drainage pipe a broken pair of women's
  587. 23:07glasses and a pair of panties back at
  588. 23:10the house of prayer in the wood burning
  589. 23:11stove they found ashes and what looked
  590. 23:14like human bone and burnt flesh in
  591. 23:17another area where Lucas had dumped
  592. 23:18ashes they also found bone fragments
  593. 23:21Lucas also showed them where he'd thrown
  594. 23:23Kate's purse exactly the spot where it
  595. 23:26had been found months before
  596. 23:28officers including Texas Rangers then
  597. 23:31took Lucas to the Denton area to try to
  598. 23:33find Becky's remains he went right to
  599. 23:36the cops of trees where he buried her
  600. 23:37and pointed to several areas on the
  601. 23:39ground they dug at seven different
  602. 23:41locations and found clothing bones a
  603. 23:44skull and decomposing
  604. 23:46Remains the corroboration of two murders
  605. 23:49both of which appeared to show
  606. 23:50experience with killing and hiding
  607. 23:52evidence made the possibility that Lucas
  608. 23:54was telling the truth about others even
  609. 23:56a hundred others seemed more likely now
  610. 23:59to at least some of the
  611. 24:01officers Lucas wanted to clear his
  612. 24:03conscience entirely so after he was
  613. 24:06convicted of Becky's murder he wrote
  614. 24:07Otis TL a four-page letter to inform him
  615. 24:10of Becky's death and to get his
  616. 24:12assistance in recalling the details of
  617. 24:13the murders they' committed together he
  618. 24:16said that he hadn't yet mentioned TL
  619. 24:18although he had and would leave it up to
  620. 24:20him as to whether he wanted to be
  621. 24:22involved in fact the Jacksonville police
  622. 24:24had already been contacted about murders
  623. 24:26in their area committed are these two
  624. 24:29losers the letter went to tul in prison
  625. 24:32he'd heard about Lucas's confessions and
  626. 24:34he readily backed them up adding
  627. 24:36gruesome details of his own tul offer
  628. 24:39details that seemed to clear some two
  629. 24:41dozen murders in 11 states and he agreed
  630. 24:44that he'd participated with Lucas in
  631. 24:46over a 100
  632. 24:47killings in one disturbing phone call
  633. 24:50that they were allowed to make their
  634. 24:51first Contact in 2 years tulle urged
  635. 24:54Lucas to go ahead and spit it out if
  636. 24:56there was a crime that he'd had a hand
  637. 24:57hand in t also tried to go Lucas into
  638. 25:00admitting to cannibalism in a
  639. 25:03documentary made for American Justice he
  640. 25:05was quoted in a taped conversation as
  641. 25:07saying remember that one time I said I
  642. 25:10wanted to try some ribs did that make me
  643. 25:12a cannibal he indicated that they both
  644. 25:15had filleted some meat from the bodies
  645. 25:17and mentioned that he'd poured out some
  646. 25:19blood so he could see what the male
  647. 25:21victim tasted like Lucas responded I've
  648. 25:24seen bodies cut up worse than you've
  649. 25:26ever seen bodies cut up
  650. 25:28Odus ignored this one-upmanship and
  651. 25:30indicated that with barbecue sauce it
  652. 25:33tasted like real meat Lucas said that
  653. 25:35he'd abstained from that behavior
  654. 25:37because he didn't like the taste of
  655. 25:39barbecue sauce he did tell tulle that
  656. 25:41they had the devil in them that made
  657. 25:43them do these things that most people
  658. 25:45didn't you and I have become the same
  659. 25:47things that people look at as animals
  660. 25:50Lucas stated as quoted in Cox's
  661. 25:52book after about half an hour they said
  662. 25:55goodbye to each other apparently having
  663. 25:57thoroughly enjoyed the repulsive show
  664. 25:59they'd put on for law enforcement Bob
  665. 26:01Prince from the Lucas task force spotted
  666. 26:04the game and believed to decreased their
  667. 26:06credibility despite Lucas's claim to
  668. 26:09want to do the right thing he simply
  669. 26:11took too much delight in what he was
  670. 26:13doing later the partners were brought
  671. 26:16face to face when Lucas was taken to
  672. 26:18Jacksonville to talk with officers there
  673. 26:20but said nothing of substance T forgave
  674. 26:23Lucas for killing Becky shrugging it off
  675. 26:26as her time to die
  676. 26:28with new information supplied by Lucas
  677. 26:30tul received a death sentence when it
  678. 26:32was determined that one of the Fire Seed
  679. 26:34set had killed a man he received a
  680. 26:37second death sentence for the murder of
  681. 26:38an elderly woman but both were commuted
  682. 26:41to life after Thanksgiving in 1983 the
  683. 26:45Texas Rangers spearheaded the Henry Lee
  684. 26:47Lucas task force in a one-day event
  685. 26:50sponsored by the Texas Department of
  686. 26:51Public Safety on December 7th Texas
  687. 26:54Lawman questioned Lucas in the hopes of
  688. 26:56closing their open cases
  689. 26:58at the time Lucas had taken credit for
  690. 27:00around 126 murders and the Rangers
  691. 27:03believed that 35 were clearly associated
  692. 27:05with them however they were also aware
  693. 27:08that Lucas had lied about some and had
  694. 27:10said he was unclear about details of
  695. 27:12others because he'd been under the
  696. 27:14influence of alcohol or drugs while they
  697. 27:17collected information and contacted
  698. 27:19other agencies they filled in gaps about
  699. 27:21lucas' whereabouts as best they could
  700. 27:23during his murdering
  701. 27:25years then for 3 days in January 1984
  702. 27:28107 officers from 18 states and the
  703. 27:31District of Columbia filled the holodome
  704. 27:33in Monroe Louisiana for second
  705. 27:35conference about the homicides allegedly
  706. 27:37killed by Henry Lee Lucas the first one
  707. 27:40drawing not quite as many had been in
  708. 27:42October at that time it was announced
  709. 27:44that 72 cases had been cleared on Lucas
  710. 27:47and tlle and that they were suspects in
  711. 27:4971 more
  712. 27:51cases he was going to be allowed to book
  713. 27:53interviews by phone or in person until
  714. 27:55his murder trial in March for the orange
  715. 27:57s fo murder he had two courta appointed
  716. 27:59attorneys looking after his rights the
  717. 28:02Rangers urged officers not to give Lucas
  718. 28:05too many details or photographs because
  719. 28:07they wanted to be certain that cases
  720. 28:09that were cleared stayed
  721. 28:11clear Lucas did appear to close cases
  722. 28:14and accurately lead investigators to
  723. 28:16crime scenes he knew details about
  724. 28:18murders to which he confessed that had
  725. 28:20not been published in the press in a
  726. 28:22case in kenowick Washington he described
  727. 28:25the murder of a woman in impressive
  728. 28:26detail and his blood was matched to
  729. 28:28blood on a towel which he said he'd use
  730. 28:30to wipe his hand after cutting himself
  731. 28:32with a murder weapon I had no feelings
  732. 28:35for the people themselves or any of the
  733. 28:37crimes he stated I'd pick them up
  734. 28:39hitchhiking running and playing stuff
  735. 28:41like that we'd get to going and having a
  736. 28:44good time first thing you'd know i'
  737. 28:46killed her and threw her out
  738. 28:48somewhere finally he faced his most
  739. 28:51serious charge the trial for the murder
  740. 28:53of the victim known only as orange socks
  741. 28:56took place in March in San Angelo Texas
  742. 28:59district attorney Ed Walsh was the chief
  743. 29:01prosecutor while Don higginbottom and
  744. 29:04Parker mccullock defended Lucas the case
  745. 29:07was to be heard before Judge John Carter
  746. 29:09who'd recently presided over the trial
  747. 29:11of nurse Janine Jones for the murder of
  748. 29:13a
  749. 29:14child the trial began with reports of
  750. 29:16how the victim had been murdered
  751. 29:18including Lucas's edited confession in a
  752. 29:21written statement and on tape he
  753. 29:23described how he picked her up as a
  754. 29:25hitchhiker had sex with her killed her
  755. 29:27had sex again and dumped her in the
  756. 29:29Culvert skinning his knee on the guard
  757. 29:31rail a videotape showed Lucas directing
  758. 29:34police officers to where he dropped the
  759. 29:36victim's
  760. 29:37body however the defense attorneys
  761. 29:40proved that the unedited tape revealed
  762. 29:42that Lucas sometimes contradicted
  763. 29:44himself and suffered from Key lapses in
  764. 29:46memory the sheriff even had to refresh
  765. 29:48his memory at times during the interview
  766. 29:51which suggested that Lucas simply read
  767. 29:53the sheriff's desire for information and
  768. 29:55gave him what he wanted the defense also
  769. 29:58used work records to show that Lucas had
  770. 30:00been in Florida on October 31st and had
  771. 30:02cashed a check on November 1st and they
  772. 30:05tied it all up with psychiatric
  773. 30:06testimony to show that Lucas was insane
  774. 30:10psychologist Tom Kubin said that Lucas
  775. 30:12had an IQ of 84 a desire to feel
  776. 30:15important a feeling of inferiority and a
  777. 30:18belief that he could not direct his own
  778. 30:20actions he also had
  779. 30:23schizophrenia Lucas cried in court when
  780. 30:25he heard all of this forcing a reset
  781. 30:28the prosecution hit back with evidence
  782. 30:30that suggested that Lucas's boss might
  783. 30:32have recorded his presence at work when
  784. 30:34he was not there they also supplied
  785. 30:37psychiatric testimony that Lucas was not
  786. 30:39insane in addition on one of the tapes
  787. 30:42Lucas claimed 360 murders we killed them
  788. 30:46almost every way there is except poison
  789. 30:49detailing exactly what he
  790. 30:51meant despite the defense's best efforts
  791. 30:54not the least of which was a client who
  792. 30:56had proved most helpful to the other
  793. 30:58side the jury convicted Lucas and
  794. 31:00sentenced him to die afterward he seemed
  795. 31:03unfazed even happy it was as if he'd
  796. 31:07finally become someone of
  797. 31:09importance yet not everyone who'd been
  798. 31:12at the trial agreed with a verdict it
  799. 31:14seemed that Lucas only knew key facts
  800. 31:16about the crime after the sheriff had
  801. 31:18refreshed his memory it was the worst
  802. 31:21confession said Hugh answorth a reporter
  803. 31:23for the Dallas Times Herald who decided
  804. 31:26to do some more digging
  805. 31:28Lucas's casee occurred in the midst of
  806. 31:30an incident in Texas that provides some
  807. 31:32context for its eventual unraveling so
  808. 31:35let's look first at that one Roger
  809. 31:38Draper in a lengthy 1994 article about
  810. 31:41the one-time Frontier ethic of the Texas
  811. 31:43Rangers for Texas monthly discusses
  812. 31:46Lucas in the context of what he refers
  813. 31:48to as the infamous brandley case Draper
  814. 31:51states that this epitomized the
  815. 31:53wrongheadedness of the Ranger
  816. 31:55way on August 28th 1980 Ranger Wesley
  817. 31:59Styles investigated the assault and
  818. 32:01strangulation murder of a high school
  819. 32:03cheerleader he arrested the custodian
  820. 32:05Clarence brandley the next day without
  821. 32:08having questioned a single witness he
  822. 32:10was quickly charged with capital murder
  823. 32:13a jury later convicted him on nothing
  824. 32:15more than tenuous circumstantial
  825. 32:17evidence but Styles's tunnel vision
  826. 32:20approach was reviewed in 1989 by the
  827. 32:22Court of Criminal Appeals and the
  828. 32:24justices found that he had ignored
  829. 32:25evidence that pointed to other suspects
  830. 32:28he'd also threatened the state star
  831. 32:30witness and lied on the stand brandley
  832. 32:33on death row was
  833. 32:35freed before that conviction was
  834. 32:37overturned and the Rangers embarrassed
  835. 32:39by one of their own they were already
  836. 32:41going through a much more humiliating
  837. 32:43process at the hands of Lucas their Zeal
  838. 32:46was commendable but not their approach
  839. 32:49one Ranger in particular bought the
  840. 32:51whole
  841. 32:52package Max call was one of the Texas
  842. 32:55Rangers who took over the Lucas case
  843. 32:58although Call's book Hand of Death is
  844. 33:00generally discredited since he not only
  845. 33:03befriended Lucas but also accepted
  846. 33:05everything Lucas said at face value call
  847. 33:07even named Lucas as a member of the
  848. 33:09Lucas task force it may nevertheless be
  849. 33:11the best account available of what Lucas
  850. 33:14actually
  851. 33:15said Cole makes it clear that Lucas was
  852. 33:17getting plenty of attention a high
  853. 33:19security cell good food and numerous
  854. 33:22trips in the company of two Texas
  855. 33:24Rangers that's motivation for men with
  856. 33:27nothing to keep making up
  857. 33:29Whoppers Henry worshiped Satan call
  858. 33:32writes and believed his lies because he
  859. 33:35found justification for his fantasies in
  860. 33:37Satan's service call believed that Lucas
  861. 33:40had joined tulle in the so-called Hand
  862. 33:42of Death cult in the Florida everes and
  863. 33:44he thought that by writing the book he
  864. 33:46would be warning people about this
  865. 33:48dangerous organization he seemed to
  866. 33:51genuinely believe that Henry Lee Lucas
  867. 33:53assisted in 360 rapes and murders at the
  868. 33:56behest of the Hand of Death which
  869. 33:58supposedly had links to organized crime
  870. 34:00and practiced the sacrifice of females
  871. 34:03in fact Lucas indicated that they'd
  872. 34:05recruited and trained him specifically
  873. 34:07to become a killing machine and he was
  874. 34:09able to describe just how these supposed
  875. 34:11sacrifices
  876. 34:13worked Call's gullibility is obvious
  877. 34:16when he says that Lucas wanted to
  878. 34:17confess as a way of exposing the cult
  879. 34:20and it's likely that Lucas keed into
  880. 34:21Call's own religious beliefs to hook
  881. 34:24them and play him the book is replete
  882. 34:26with with religious ideology especially
  883. 34:29when it seems that Becky's found the way
  884. 34:31out through the Bible call seems to like
  885. 34:34this moral angle playing it up whenever
  886. 34:36he can in addition he accepts whatever
  887. 34:39Lucas tells him for example Lucas
  888. 34:42apparently described TL as a nicelooking
  889. 34:44young man when in fact TL is closer to
  890. 34:47winning the contest for homeliest serial
  891. 34:50killer unfortunately most of Call's
  892. 34:53chapter about Lucas's childhood
  893. 34:54experience with his mother was clearly
  894. 34:57corroborated and there's no way of
  895. 34:58knowing how much is factual Lucas was
  896. 35:01angry at his mother and he likely skewed
  897. 35:04the story to make her look as evil as
  898. 35:06possible other authors have picked up on
  899. 35:08this account including psychologists and
  900. 35:11criminologists so it's important to
  901. 35:13reiterate that there's little in Lucas's
  902. 35:15account of his childhood that bears the
  903. 35:16stamp of corroborated
  904. 35:18fact anything the call writes about must
  905. 35:21be viewed with some skepticism
  906. 35:23especially since he recreates it as a
  907. 35:25story with d and incidents he never
  908. 35:29witnessed as Lucas's death toll climbed
  909. 35:31to some 600 victims in 27 different
  910. 35:34states and in Canada According to some
  911. 35:37accounts though others capit at 360 it
  912. 35:40began to seem as if he was just a
  913. 35:42compulsive Confessor he'd added in the
  914. 35:44satanic cult activity which at the time
  915. 35:47seemed to justify his numbers but it
  916. 35:49only made some people suspicious that it
  917. 35:52was all a
  918. 35:53hoax Cox describes how reporter Hugh
  919. 35:56answorth co-writer was Steven mishod on
  920. 35:58a book about Ted Bundy sat through
  921. 36:00Lucas's trial and had his doubts he did
  922. 36:03some sleuthing and found that Lucas had
  923. 36:05been out of state or in prison at times
  924. 36:08when some of the murders to which he'd
  925. 36:09confessed had occurred that inspired
  926. 36:11mclennen County DA Vic Fel to look into
  927. 36:15Lucas's confessions to two murders in
  928. 36:17his own area apparently Lucas had
  929. 36:19written a letter to a reporter in Fort
  930. 36:21Worth suggesting that he was not
  931. 36:23actually responsible for all the murders
  932. 36:25he' claimed and and that the parents of
  933. 36:27one of Lucas's supposed victims decided
  934. 36:30after reviewing a statement that he was
  935. 36:32not the killer of their
  936. 36:34daughter answorth had interviewed Lucas
  937. 36:36himself and wrote a lengthy piece that
  938. 36:38was published on April 14th
  939. 36:401984 he asked the important question was
  940. 36:44it all a hoax he believed it was and
  941. 36:47accused the task force of failing to
  942. 36:49follow leads that may have undermined
  943. 36:51lucas' credibility such as noting the
  944. 36:53distance between crime scenes that made
  945. 36:55it virtually imposs possible for Lucas
  946. 36:57to have committed some murders that were
  947. 36:59close together in time he thought the
  948. 37:01information about many of the murders
  949. 37:03had been fed to Lucas in order to close
  950. 37:05the
  951. 37:06cases supposedly Lucas had finally
  952. 37:09admitted that he was good for only three
  953. 37:11murders in his life his mother Becky and
  954. 37:15Kate but Lucas told a l sister who then
  955. 37:18told other reporters that he'd lied to
  956. 37:20answorth and was in fact the Monstrous
  957. 37:23killer he claimed his Newfound religion
  958. 37:26for fored them to tell the truth but
  959. 37:28Lucas told a lay sister who then told
  960. 37:30other
  961. 37:31reporters officers involved insisted
  962. 37:34that they did not believe everything
  963. 37:35Lucas said but when he knew key
  964. 37:38unpublished details and could lead them
  965. 37:40directly to a crime scene that was
  966. 37:42convincing evidence he certainly had
  967. 37:45killed far more than three in fact by
  968. 37:48that point writes Cox 189 murders had
  969. 37:51been cleared and attributed to him on
  970. 37:54April 23rd he said that the only person
  971. 37:56he'd ever killed was his mother and that
  972. 37:59had been an accident he'd been able to
  973. 38:01clear so many murders because the
  974. 38:03Rangers had given him everything he
  975. 38:04needed to do so pictures reports and
  976. 38:07even leading them to the crime scenes he
  977. 38:10got a live appearance on Good Morning
  978. 38:11America to repeat his
  979. 38:13allegations his decision to recant he
  980. 38:16said was based on his belief in God the
  981. 38:18same reason he'd earlier given to
  982. 38:20confess to so many
  983. 38:22murders this news was just as stunning
  984. 38:25as his initial confession and the
  985. 38:27officers involved quickly mobilized to
  986. 38:29try to piece together some dignity
  987. 38:31apparently Lucas enjoyed shocking law
  988. 38:34enforcement with numbers perverse
  989. 38:35activities and gruesome details
  990. 38:38nevertheless he did point to places
  991. 38:40where victims were found and now it's
  992. 38:42estimated by some that he was
  993. 38:44responsible for some 40 to 50 murders on
  994. 38:47the other hand those who make this
  995. 38:49estimation may also be saving face not
  996. 38:51willing to admit that they may have fed
  997. 38:53him
  998. 38:55information Ryan reports the manner in
  999. 38:57which Lucas typically confessed to a
  1000. 38:59number of unsolved murders if a police
  1001. 39:01agency suspected Lucas and if Lucas
  1002. 39:04admitted involvement and his total of
  1003. 39:06some 3,000 confessions suggest he rarely
  1004. 39:08denied complicity they would send the
  1005. 39:10Lucas task force a case File with
  1006. 39:12information pertaining to the unsolved
  1007. 39:14crime Lucas would be questioned at
  1008. 39:16length and sometimes even allowed to
  1009. 39:19read police reports thus learning any
  1010. 39:21number of details previously known only
  1011. 39:23to police which he could then
  1012. 39:25regurgitate at
  1013. 39:27will the Rangers insisted that Lucas was
  1014. 39:30a serial killer and they were reportedly
  1015. 39:32annoyed with fil for interfering they
  1016. 39:35claimed that they'd taken much more care
  1017. 39:37in keeping details from Lucas than they
  1018. 39:39were being accused of yet Draper says
  1019. 39:42that one Ranger told the da I'm going to
  1020. 39:44make you regret this if it's the last
  1021. 39:46thing I
  1022. 39:47do but the damage had been done the
  1023. 39:51media had picked up on this hoax which
  1024. 39:53was nearly too good to be true and Lucas
  1025. 39:56status changed from one of the world's
  1026. 39:58most notorious Killers to one of the
  1027. 40:00world's most notorious Liars no matter
  1028. 40:04what he said now no one would believe
  1029. 40:06it this made all those in law
  1030. 40:09enforcement who had rushed to interview
  1031. 40:10him and who had closed cases look rather
  1032. 40:13lame several retired Rangers later said
  1033. 40:16that it was their impression during the
  1034. 40:18interrogations that Lucas was a liar
  1035. 40:21still it was difficult for them to
  1036. 40:23accept that in cases where Lucas LED
  1037. 40:24them to the right spot where B Lane he
  1038. 40:27had nothing to do with it he simply Knew
  1039. 40:29Too Much about certain crimes on his own
  1040. 40:32without
  1041. 40:33assistance then on April 29th Lucas
  1042. 40:36returned to some of his original
  1043. 40:38statements he gave an interview to a
  1044. 40:40radio show personality indicating that I
  1045. 40:43have killed the people I said I killed
  1046. 40:46he again put the figure at
  1047. 40:48360 then he said that everything was a
  1048. 40:50lie and indicated that the hands of
  1049. 40:52death cult was going to assassinate him
  1050. 40:55no one knew quite what to make of a
  1051. 40:57killer confessing to so many crimes he
  1052. 40:59did not do but then he insisted that
  1053. 41:01he'd been forced to recant his
  1054. 41:04persistent waffling further reduced his
  1055. 41:07credibility police are familiar with
  1056. 41:09several types of false confessions
  1057. 41:11including from people who confess
  1058. 41:13spontaneously to something they did not
  1059. 41:15do that's usually in response to a
  1060. 41:17high-profile case in the hope of
  1061. 41:19becoming
  1062. 41:20famous sometimes it's about misplaced
  1063. 41:23guilt where the Confessor believes he
  1064. 41:25should be punished for something
  1065. 41:27anything there are also coerced
  1066. 41:29confessions usually offered when the
  1067. 41:31person under interrogation is exhausted
  1068. 41:33naive frightened or mentally impaired
  1069. 41:36some people fear that the interrogation
  1070. 41:38will be stressful so they capitulate
  1071. 41:40quickly but on rare occasions a person
  1072. 41:43may internalize the events and actually
  1073. 41:45believe he or she did it that occurs
  1074. 41:49when an interrogator seems confident of
  1075. 41:51the suspect's guilt and may even lie or
  1076. 41:53use manipulative tactics the
  1077. 41:56characteristics of those most likely to
  1078. 41:57falsely confess include youth a low IQ
  1079. 42:01mental illness or confusion a high
  1080. 42:03degree of suggestibility a trusting
  1081. 42:05nature low self-esteem high anxiety and
  1082. 42:07a poor memory but the person seeking to
  1083. 42:10attach himself to a specific case seems
  1084. 42:13closest to what Lucas did in Texas
  1085. 42:16monthly Draper indicates that the
  1086. 42:18Rangers had been overeager in their
  1087. 42:20desire to close open cases so they
  1088. 42:22provided Lucas with some of the details
  1089. 42:24he needed to confess they called it
  1090. 42:27helping to refresh his memory and he
  1091. 42:29fully exploited it for his own ends he
  1092. 42:32had nothing whatsoever to lose but
  1093. 42:34plenty to gain by way of entertainment
  1094. 42:37and feeling
  1095. 42:38empowered in fact Lucas confessed to a
  1096. 42:41murder in Little Rock Arkansas that had
  1097. 42:43already been solved which made a DA
  1098. 42:45there suspicious of his admissions the
  1099. 42:48same thing happened with West Virginia
  1100. 42:49officials when Lucas claimed credit for
  1101. 42:51killing a police officer whose death was
  1102. 42:53determined to have been a
  1103. 42:55suicide in another Arkansas case Lucas
  1104. 42:58could not offer details until after
  1105. 43:00State Police had shown him a crime scene
  1106. 43:02video that they'd made it was easy then
  1107. 43:04for him to give them whatever they
  1108. 43:06needed to tie him to that murder he also
  1109. 43:09confessed to a killing in Delaware in
  1110. 43:11which there was already a suspect in
  1111. 43:12custody that suspect eventually
  1112. 43:14confessed as
  1113. 43:16well I set out to break and corrupt any
  1114. 43:18law enforcement officer I could get
  1115. 43:20Lucas said I think I did a pretty good
  1116. 43:24job through dubious method says dra the
  1117. 43:27Rangers extracted literally hundreds of
  1118. 43:29confessions from Henry Lee Lucas perhaps
  1119. 43:33Lucas was living by the principle that
  1120. 43:34Edgar attributes to him if rules
  1121. 43:37befitted him he went along if they
  1122. 43:40didn't he broke them in other words he
  1123. 43:43cleaved to whatever he thought was in
  1124. 43:45his best interest at the
  1125. 43:46moment on June 11th 1984 further
  1126. 43:50investigations of open cases were halted
  1127. 43:52while many of the cleared cases had
  1128. 43:54already been reopened
  1129. 43:56Lucas was transferred to the state
  1130. 43:58prison at Huntsville claiming that his
  1131. 44:00rights prior to the trial for orange
  1132. 44:02socks had been violated somehow he
  1133. 44:05believed that by undermining law
  1134. 44:06enforcement as he' done he'd regain his
  1135. 44:09freedom he told one officer he'd be free
  1136. 44:12in a month in 1991 Odis TL received four
  1137. 44:16more life sentences for the murders of
  1138. 44:18three women and a man in Florida between
  1139. 44:201980 and
  1140. 44:211981 Lucas was charged along with them
  1141. 44:24but not brought to Florida for
  1142. 44:26prosecution 5 years later in 1996 tul
  1143. 44:30died in prison from therosis of the
  1144. 44:32liver before that happened a curious
  1145. 44:35incident involved his former partner
  1146. 44:38Lucas many serial killers attract
  1147. 44:40groupies and while Lucas was not among
  1148. 44:43the bestl looking men he was certainly
  1149. 44:45notorious and had a share of admirers
  1150. 44:48one woman Phyllis Wilcox even came up
  1151. 44:50with a plot to free him by posing as his
  1152. 44:53supposedly murdered former girlfriend
  1153. 44:55Ryan McMichael includes an interview
  1154. 44:57with her on his website given after she
  1155. 44:59wrote to him in 2000 when he posted an
  1156. 45:02online blog about
  1157. 45:03Lucas according to this story in October
  1158. 45:061992 Willcox posed as Becky all grown up
  1159. 45:10although some 15 years older than Becky
  1160. 45:12would have been at the time claiming
  1161. 45:14that she was still alive so that she
  1162. 45:16could get him out of that murder wrap
  1163. 45:18she was actually a mother and
  1164. 45:19grandmother aged 40 and living in Cape
  1165. 45:21gyo Missouri she met Lucas via
  1166. 45:24correspondence after reading a book
  1167. 45:26about him and she soon
  1168. 45:28visited she indicates that although she
  1169. 45:30was nervous about going into prison and
  1170. 45:32quite intimidated by the sight of Lucas
  1171. 45:34and handcuffs surrounded by guards she
  1172. 45:36had a wonderful time and made many more
  1173. 45:38visits thereafter among the subjects
  1174. 45:41they discussed was Becky
  1175. 45:43Powell Lucas apparently claimed that
  1176. 45:46he'd seen Becky get into a truck but he
  1177. 45:48told authorities that he'd killed her so
  1178. 45:50they wouldn't attempt to implicate her
  1179. 45:51in the murders that he'd committed in
  1180. 45:54other words she says he told Wilcox that
  1181. 45:57Becky was still alive Lucas also denied
  1182. 46:00killing Kate rich and orange socks
  1183. 46:02indicating that the oven in which he
  1184. 46:04supposedly had burned Kate was too small
  1185. 46:06for a woman as fat as she was and would
  1186. 46:08not have gotten hot enough to have
  1187. 46:10burned her to Ash he was sure that the
  1188. 46:12authorities found some chicken bones
  1189. 46:14nothing more and exaggerated their
  1190. 46:17significance about orange socks he
  1191. 46:19claimed that the bruises around her neck
  1192. 46:21did not even fit his hands but he did
  1193. 46:24admit that he'd murdered his mother
  1194. 46:27Wilcox bought it all and confessed to
  1195. 46:29McMichael that despite being married she
  1196. 46:31soon became obsessed with Lucas thinking
  1197. 46:33and dreaming about him all the time she
  1198. 46:36knew she was falling in love he accepted
  1199. 46:39her feelings and told her he loved her
  1200. 46:41too it wasn't long before Wilcox grew
  1201. 46:44afraid that Lucas might be executed so
  1202. 46:47she devised a plan to make sure that
  1203. 46:49didn't happen she believed that he was
  1204. 46:51innocent of the charges she'd even come
  1205. 46:54up with a way to exonerate in her mind
  1206. 46:56of killing his mother by blaming someone
  1207. 46:58else so she posed as Becky and Lucas
  1208. 47:01backed her up he said that he'd only
  1209. 47:03confessed to murdering Becky because he
  1210. 47:05wanted to embarrass the police he seems
  1211. 47:08to have forgotten that they actually
  1212. 47:10picked up Becky's remains as Lucas
  1213. 47:12showed them where each piece was they
  1214. 47:15didn't get away with it Fraser indicates
  1215. 47:18that Wilcox was revealed when this hoax
  1216. 47:20was unraveled as a diagnosed
  1217. 47:22schizophrenic who had also corresponded
  1218. 47:24with John Wayne gasy and Charles Manson
  1219. 47:27but Lucas was still determined to beat
  1220. 47:29his death
  1221. 47:30sentence while it was clear that Lucas
  1222. 47:33had committed four murders including his
  1223. 47:35mother even one of those orange socks
  1224. 47:38eventually came under doubt the only
  1225. 47:41thing linking Lucas to Orange socks was
  1226. 47:43essentially his confession in fact some
  1227. 47:462133 cases had been cleared through
  1228. 47:49Lucas's confessions which concerned the
  1229. 47:51writers of the Lucas report a document
  1230. 47:54commissioned by the Texas Attorney
  1231. 47:55General's
  1232. 47:56office ultimately Lucas was convicted of
  1233. 47:59only 11 homicides says Edgar though some
  1234. 48:02criminologists believe he was
  1235. 48:04responsible for between 40 to 50 murders
  1236. 48:07still no one knows for sure the death
  1237. 48:10sentence for the murder of orange sock
  1238. 48:11stood for many years although Lucas
  1239. 48:14received two stays of execution because
  1240. 48:16the evidence was too slim apparently it
  1241. 48:19was now the case that the work records
  1242. 48:20that had been discredited at the trial
  1243. 48:22were now considered viable evidence on
  1244. 48:25Lucas's half that's because a lot more
  1245. 48:27research has been
  1246. 48:29done former Attorney General's
  1247. 48:31investigator Michael Fury had developed
  1248. 48:33a thick file about Lucas's whereabouts
  1249. 48:35on the night that orange socks had been
  1250. 48:37murdered the documentation made it clear
  1251. 48:40that he was indeed in Jacksonville
  1252. 48:42Florida Fury had utilized records such
  1253. 48:45as paycheck stubs and insurance reports
  1254. 48:47to track Lucas as he drifted around the
  1255. 48:49southeast he was ready to submit all of
  1256. 48:52this on Lucas's behalf and it was
  1257. 48:54entered into evidence when when Lucas
  1258. 48:56received a hearing in 1996 about his
  1259. 48:58death
  1260. 48:59sentence Lucas took the witness stand
  1261. 49:01writes Jean Pagel for the Associated
  1262. 49:03Press to say that he did not kill the
  1263. 49:06woman known as orange socks he cried and
  1264. 49:09for about 15 minutes spoke in a
  1265. 49:11trembling voice before US District Judge
  1266. 49:14samr Cummings Lucas said that he'd given
  1267. 49:17false information when he' confessed to
  1268. 49:18the murder and added that he was able to
  1269. 49:21give a lot of facts about the crime
  1270. 49:23because he'd read the case File in fact
  1271. 49:25fact he had an alibi he was in Florida
  1272. 49:28putting out a
  1273. 49:29carfire the assistant Texas Attorney
  1274. 49:31General Gina Blount took him to task for
  1275. 49:34playing games with investigators and
  1276. 49:36Lucas denied that it had been a game I
  1277. 49:39had my reasons he responded he received
  1278. 49:41a stay and two years later the matter
  1279. 49:44went to the
  1280. 49:45governor in 1998 based on the lack of
  1281. 49:48evidence connecting Lucas to the murder
  1282. 49:50and the existence of contradictory
  1283. 49:51evidence then Texas governor George W
  1284. 49:54bush commuted Lucas is a sentence to
  1285. 49:56life the only man to receive this during
  1286. 49:58Bush's Reign 7 years later in 2005 in
  1287. 50:02the New York Review of Books sister
  1288. 50:04Helen preene author of dead man walking
  1289. 50:07wrote about Bush's decision she
  1290. 50:09suggested that he'd been motivated more
  1291. 50:11by expediency than conscience and
  1292. 50:14offered the relevant supporting
  1293. 50:16facts during his six years as governor
  1294. 50:18of Texas bush had presided over 152
  1295. 50:22executions more than any other governor
  1296. 50:24in any other state in recent history he
  1297. 50:27commuted no other death sentences to
  1298. 50:29life although there were factors as
  1299. 50:31significant as any that Lucas's
  1300. 50:33attorneys offered journalist Alan burlow
  1301. 50:36apparently discovered that Bush's
  1302. 50:38examination of at least 57 of these
  1303. 50:40cases involved only cursory reviews of
  1304. 50:43brief death penalty memos on the day
  1305. 50:45before the scheduled execution in one
  1306. 50:48case bush had skipped over evidence that
  1307. 50:50the convicted man was mentally
  1308. 50:52and therefore not even eligible for the
  1309. 50:54death penalty
  1310. 50:56preene calls the Texas Board of Pardons
  1311. 50:58and appeals a farce that bush did
  1312. 51:00nothing to
  1313. 51:01reform then she writes about Lucas in
  1314. 51:04the Henry Lee Lucas case in 1998 Bush
  1315. 51:07showed where the real power lay he
  1316. 51:10intervened with a board before they had
  1317. 51:11a chance to make a recommendation and
  1318. 51:14afterward the board approved his
  1319. 51:15decision in a 17 to1
  1320. 51:17vote preing points out that it was
  1321. 51:20common knowledge by then that Lucas
  1322. 51:22could not have murdered the woman known
  1323. 51:23as orange socks additionally she writes
  1324. 51:27it was clear that Lucas would never be a
  1325. 51:29threat to society because he was already
  1326. 51:31serving six life sentences for other
  1327. 51:33murders which he may or may not have
  1328. 51:35committed since on a fairly regular
  1329. 51:37basis he confessed falsely to hundreds
  1330. 51:39of
  1331. 51:40murders Bush pointed out that jurors at
  1332. 51:43his trial did not know certain facts
  1333. 51:45that later came to light thus he took
  1334. 51:47the opportunity she claims to exercise
  1335. 51:49apparent compassion although in the
  1336. 51:52context of his actual record his
  1337. 51:54compassion diminished fines into mere
  1338. 51:57politics no one knows exactly how many
  1339. 52:00murders Henry Lee Lucas and Otis tul
  1340. 52:03committed given Lucas's trickster
  1341. 52:05methods and propensity to lie it's
  1342. 52:08likely that no one will ever know beyond
  1343. 52:10his mother Kate rich and Becky Powell
  1344. 52:13there seems to be good evidence that he
  1345. 52:15killed others but judges would not admit
  1346. 52:18his confessions so it was difficult to
  1347. 52:20bring the cases to
  1348. 52:22trial in March 2001 Henry Lucas died in
  1349. 52:26prison of natural causes thus ended one
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