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  1. 0:00The Shstreakland drama continues, guys.
  2. 0:04It continues since we learned that just
  3. 0:07before the title fight against Ramza
  4. 0:09Shimaev, the man signed a new six-fight
  5. 0:12contract with the UFC, if I'm not
  6. 0:14mistaken. So we're talking about last
  7. 0:17May. Understand what's going on.
  8. 0:20Obviously, guys, we're going to side
  9. 0:22with John Streakland, and with the UFC
  10. 0:24too, because we're not, I don't know,
  11. 0:25in a Manikin world where it's true that
  12. 0:27we can understand both points of view.
  13. 0:31And we can understand why, inevitably,
  14. 0:33things are stuck on the UFC's side as
  15. 0:34well as Shckland's side, but it's
  16. 0:36interesting information.
  17. 0:39>> Yes, interesting information. And by
  18. 0:41the way, I'm also taking this
  19. 0:42opportunity to say that I saw it in a
  20. 0:44Yahoo Sports article and even the guy
  21. 0:45who said it was Mike, it was Mike Bone.
  22. 0:48So these are guys who are trustworthy,
  23. 0:50apparently even you know the rumor that
  24. 0:53there was that he was on a contract of
  25. 0:55400 + 400 apparently those would be
  26. 0:57false figures. So he would be on more
  27. 1:00than that and that apparently the
  28. 1:04million that he would have received for
  29. 1:06against Ramzat apparently it would be
  30. 1:08on similar orders even for the five
  31. 1:10other fights of his contract. Street
  32. 1:16Fighter. To live is to fight. Fighting
  33. 1:19is living, in cinemas Oct 14th. So
  34. 1:21obviously guys, it's the classic on the
  35. 1:23UFC side. When you have a superstar, a
  36. 1:26guy like that, when he's going to come
  37. 1:27back or there's going to be a big
  38. 1:29deadline, you make him sign a big
  39. 1:30extension. It happened with Roré
  40. 1:32Masvidal. It happened with John Jones
  41. 1:35who was in big negotiations with the
  42. 1:37UFC just before coming back against
  43. 1:38Cyril where he signed for a very
  44. 1:39long-term deal. The same thing with
  45. 1:42Alex Perra too. Perra, who is very
  46. 1:45satisfied, and what is quite surprising
  47. 1:46in fact, and this is where I am quite
  48. 1:48surprised by Shakland's exit, is that
  49. 1:50generally speaking, it is a long-term
  50. 1:52contract which, yes, you can see it on
  51. 1:54the one hand, as the guys get the money
  52. 1:56they want, but they are completely tied
  53. 1:58to the UFC until the end of their
  54. 1:59career. In fact, the expert said, he
  55. 2:01won't go into boxing because he has
  56. 2:03eight or seven fights left to do, he
  57. 2:04will be 40 years old, so it is
  58. 2:05impossible for him to go into English
  59. 2:07boxing. But overall, in fact, the
  60. 2:09madness is that the UFC says, "OK, you
  61. 2:10get the money you want but basically
  62. 2:12you stay with us until the end." But
  63. 2:14what makes John Jones, John Jones,
  64. 2:16sorry, Alex Pereira and Masvidal, well
  65. 2:19there is no longer really any question
  66. 2:21of financial difficulty or financial
  67. 2:23negotiation because they are happy
  68. 2:25since they got the sums they wanted.
  69. 2:28With Shan Rckland, what surprises me is
  70. 2:30that he re-signed a long-term contract
  71. 2:32in May but unfortunately it doesn't
  72. 2:33seem to suit him, which is quite
  73. 2:35surprising, at least I have the
  74. 2:36impression that it's one of the first
  75. 2:38times that this has happened. Well, and
  76. 2:42then I think that's where we directly
  77. 2:44touch on the problem, the crux of the
  78. 2:46matter. But there are several things:
  79. 2:49first of all, before getting into the
  80. 2:51nitty-gritty, I don't think we can
  81. 2:53completely dismiss the fact that—he
  82. 2:55says it himself—Shakland is so
  83. 2:56volatile and unpredictable that
  84. 2:58tomorrow he might be like, "No,
  85. 2:59actually, what he said was annoying me,
  86. 3:01a little bit, it was annoying me
  87. 3:03because I'm hurt in every way and I'm
  88. 3:05fed up, but in reality, I'm fine, I
  89. 3:07have a good contract, honestly, that's
  90. 3:09fine, thingamajig." So I wouldn't even
  91. 3:13rule out that he'll have outings like
  92. 3:15that soon, but I don't think so. I'm
  93. 3:18not excusing him, but I don't think so.
  94. 3:20But the problem is that he signed a
  95. 3:22six-fight extension just before his
  96. 3:24title fight against Ramzat. So now he
  97. 3:28probably had only one fight left, or I
  98. 3:30don't know exactly where he was with
  99. 3:32his fight. Maybe with his contract,
  100. 3:33maybe more. But in any case, I think
  101. 3:36the reason he got the title fight
  102. 3:39against Ramzat is because he accepted
  103. 3:41the UFC's terms and conditions on this
  104. 3:44new six-fight contract. If he hadn't
  105. 3:48accepted, let's say he had, I don't
  106. 3:50know, I don't know, but maybe two
  107. 3:51fights left or something like that, if
  108. 3:53he had had the same demands, if he had
  109. 3:55really started to break balls like that
  110. 3:57and be super vocal and stuff, well the
  111. 3:59UFC would have done a Polo Costa and he
  112. 4:01would never have seen the light of day.
  113. 4:04And he would have even less seen the
  114. 4:06title fight against Ramzat.
  115. 4:09>> And yes, like what happened for the UFC
  116. 4:12with the Burns vs. Camar Wan that was
  117. 4:14initially planned and finally it was
  118. 4:16basically supposed to be Masvidal vs.
  119. 4:19Camar Ousman. Negotiations fail, Burn
  120. 4:22gets injured and then everyone finally
  121. 4:25agrees. New contract for Mass Vidal.
  122. 4:28I'm here. Yes. No, I totally agree. The
  123. 4:32thing is, we're in a really...The
  124. 4:33question I'm asking myself is: you have
  125. 4:36this fight, you have this title fight
  126. 4:38against Ramza Chimev. Is it because, I
  127. 4:40don't know, you know, for him, he was
  128. 4:41saying: "Anyway, I'm not going to be
  129. 4:42champion and I'm getting the money I
  130. 4:44need"? Finally, if we say that Shun
  131. 4:46Streckland, everything he says and here
  132. 4:48precisely the fact of being in this
  133. 4:50situation with the UFC each time, it's
  134. 4:52on his side, it's a course that he's
  135. 4:54going to maintain. I have a really hard
  136. 4:58time understanding that,
  137. 5:00>> really. I think it's more likely that
  138. 5:02it's a bit...and he...and he also said
  139. 5:03on Twitter, basically, that someone
  140. 5:05told him: "But dude, you just re-signed
  141. 5:07a long-term contract with the UFC, what
  142. 5:09the hell are you doing not wanting to
  143. 5:10be happy now when you're the one who
  144. 5:12signed it with your little hand?" And
  145. 5:15basically, Shan Streakland explained, "
  146. 5:16But in fact, you can't, well, this is
  147. 5:18something that maybe people don't know,
  148. 5:20but in fact, you sign the contract
  149. 5:22because you have no choice but to sign
  150. 5:24the contract." And I can understand
  151. 5:27that in the sense that, well, like what
  152. 5:29we were talking about just before, but
  153. 5:30there is clearly a world for me where
  154. 5:32he signed. Yes, so I imagine he signed
  155. 5:35for more than before. Well, that's for
  156. 5:38sure, but maybe not with what he wanted
  157. 5:40exactly. But he had to move forward, he
  158. 5:43had to fight, he wanted to fight and so
  159. 5:46he signed this contract knowing at the
  160. 5:48time that: "Okay, that's good, I'm
  161. 5:51happy" but, uh, without having 000 and
  162. 5:53100 either. And now that he's had this
  163. 5:56fight against Ramzat, that he's the
  164. 5:58champion, so he has even more leverage,
  165. 6:00who realizes that the end of his career
  166. 6:01is fast approaching, well right now, I
  167. 6:03think that he's thinking a lot more. "
  168. 6:05Oh yeah, but hey, I signed because the
  169. 6:07UFC..." And the UFC, I think, must have
  170. 6:09done the classic thing, huh, that is to
  171. 6:11say, tell him: "Well, in fact, here's
  172. 6:13what we're offering you, so we're
  173. 6:15giving you a raise of I don't know 100
  174. 6:17+ 100 or 200 + 200, but on the other
  175. 6:19hand, if you don't sign, oh well then
  176. 6:20man, we're going to screw you over,
  177. 6:22you're not going to get anything,
  178. 6:24you're going to stay like this, we're
  179. 6:26only going to offer you crappy fights."
  180. 6:28They didn't tell him like that
  181. 6:30obviously, I think, but it must have
  182. 6:32been, you know, they must have made him
  183. 6:34understand in a roundabout way that we
  184. 6:36won't let you go, we'll never let you
  185. 6:39go. There won't be any "I'm going to go
  186. 6:41box Jack Paul, I'm going to go box
  187. 6:42so-and-so". Even back then, if you had
  188. 6:44one or two fights left on your contract
  189. 6:46, they were going to give you hell.
  190. 6:49They'll keep you waiting, make you
  191. 6:51miserable, and book you in garbage
  192. 6:52fights against guys who came out of
  193. 6:53nowhere. A bit like what the UFC did
  194. 6:57when they offered Carlos Prates to
  195. 6:59Conor McGregor, and so I think it must
  196. 7:01have been a mix of: he still wanted to
  197. 7:03move forward, he wanted to fight for
  198. 7:05the title, SH Streakland was still
  199. 7:08happy at the time because he got a
  200. 7:10small pay raise, plus he was taking a
  201. 7:12lot of pressure from the UFC like, "
  202. 7:14Otherwise, man, we're going to put you
  203. 7:16in trouble anyway." And so at the time,
  204. 7:19I think he thought, well, there's more
  205. 7:21advantage, plus I'm fighting, okay, I'm
  206. 7:23going for it. And a little bit, you
  207. 7:26know, like, I know it's paradoxical
  208. 7:27because these are decisions, even at
  209. 7:29that time in May when he renegotiated
  210. 7:31this contract, these are decisions that
  211. 7:32are made over several days, several
  212. 7:34weeks. So what I mean is going to be
  213. 7:37weird, but when you look at it, even
  214. 7:38now a few months later, I think there's
  215. 7:40still a reconsideration of what must
  216. 7:42have happened in terms of, like, damn,
  217. 7:44I really got screwed over there in the
  218. 7:45story. If that's it,
  219. 7:50>> I don't know. You see, really, honestly
  220. 7:53, I...what bothers me about this is the
  221. 7:55previous ones where guys who were
  222. 7:57obviously very well paid and, typically
  223. 7:59, a guy, you know, I, Shrekland, I put
  224. 8:01him in this Mas Vidal box where the guy
  225. 8:03has today, for me, you see, when you
  226. 8:05look at Mas Vidal's career and what
  227. 8:07he's done, he's been beyond his
  228. 8:08potential, so to speak, athletically.
  229. 8:11You see the Alexa cases, the John Jones
  230. 8:13cases, they're special because they're
  231. 8:14guys, they're generational talents.
  232. 8:16There you have it, if you like. There,
  233. 8:18uh, Shun Streakland like Masvidal. Mas
  234. 8:21Vidal finished with I don't know how
  235. 8:22many defeats, we don't care. He can
  236. 8:23always take money because people will
  237. 8:25always tune in to these fights. Shun
  238. 8:27Streakland, few people watch these
  239. 8:29fights for what Shun Streakland brings
  240. 8:30in the cage; it's everything that
  241. 8:32happens outside of it, and that, no
  242. 8:34matter how many defeats he has, the
  243. 8:35amount of chaos: as long as he remains
  244. 8:37the character he is outside the cage,
  245. 8:39people will watch. So a guy like Shun
  246. 8:42Streckland, he could very well say, and
  247. 8:44I think a bit like Masvidal when there
  248. 8:46were tensions, even when Masvidal then
  249. 8:48went into boxing, did his other stuff,
  250. 8:50you're still a guy that people
  251. 8:51appreciate. To say Masvidal today in
  252. 8:54sport means nothing. He hosts the
  253. 8:56podcast sponsored by Monster about the
  254. 8:58UFC with Dustin Poya, with Chris Wman
  255. 9:00and all, because he's Mass, Vidal Shun,
  256. 9:03Rickland, you know? I mean, he could
  257. 9:05very well have said: "Okay guys, you
  258. 9:07put me upside down for the title fight
  259. 9:09and you put me in the closet, I'm going
  260. 9:11to finish my contract." Even in 2 years
  261. 9:14, Shakland, I'm sure that he'll go into
  262. 9:16boxing against Jack Paul, he'll do the
  263. 9:18barnacle, you know, you put him
  264. 9:19wherever you want, he would have taken
  265. 9:21a lot, a lot of risk. So, you see,
  266. 9:24that's why I have a little trouble
  267. 9:26being on the side of the poor guy who
  268. 9:29was put in. Well, you see, it's not a
  269. 9:31Shareland, it's not Dimitrius Johnson
  270. 9:32because Dimitrius Johnson also talked
  271. 9:34about it in the mode "I'm at the end of
  272. 9:35my contract and everything." Dimitri
  273. 9:37Johnson. The reality is that when he
  274. 9:39was fighting, nobody gave a damn.
  275. 9:42>> Well, that's why I really think we're
  276. 9:44very close to a Polo Costa situation
  277. 9:45for Shun Streakland. And in fact, but
  278. 9:48let's say it's a little tricky because
  279. 9:50you see, and for me these are the...
  280. 9:52they're exact parallels, but here Polo
  281. 9:54Costa, basically, he's in this
  282. 9:55situation. There's only one fight left
  283. 9:58if I remember correctly. And in theory,
  284. 10:01he could already be out of the UFC
  285. 10:03right now because he got this offer to
  286. 10:06fight on short notice without a pay
  287. 10:08raise, even though it's a 5-rounder
  288. 10:10against Ankalaf. You can't do worse
  289. 10:15than that, except maybe Ramza Chimev if
  290. 10:17you're N Diaz and you accept just to
  291. 10:19get out. But let me tell you, these are
  292. 10:23two examples of what the UFC does to
  293. 10:25you if you want to get out of your
  294. 10:27contract because you've managed it well
  295. 10:29, or at least you only have one fight
  296. 10:31left and they're going to give you the
  297. 10:32worst possible fights. But nevertheless
  298. 10:36, in fact, there's a world where Polo
  299. 10:38Costa could have accepted, he could
  300. 10:39have accepted to fight in California,
  301. 10:41on short notice, synchronously, without
  302. 10:43a pay raise, but he didn't. But on the
  303. 10:45other hand, yes, he could already be
  304. 10:47out; he could already be fighting for
  305. 10:49Costa himself, or perhaps be fighting
  306. 10:50Jake Paul for millions of dollars at
  307. 10:52this very moment as we speak. But I
  308. 10:55think it must be so hard to tell you
  309. 10:58that I'm getting screwed, really,
  310. 11:00really badly, on one or two occasions
  311. 11:03like that to that extent. And I think
  312. 11:07that it wouldn't be, and it's not even,
  313. 11:08it's not ego, it's not just ego, but
  314. 11:10you know, for a Polo Costa, I think it
  315. 11:11must be so hard, even though it would
  316. 11:13be the right decision in the medium and
  317. 11:14long term for him. And I think it must
  318. 11:19be so hard to let go of the steak when
  319. 11:21you say, [ __ ], they're going to do the
  320. 11:24worst thing to me in this fight
  321. 11:28>> and I can't, I can't accept it and I
  322. 11:30think they're in situations like that,
  323. 11:31you see,
  324. 11:32>> that could happen
  325. 11:33>> after once again, guys, I'm playing
  326. 11:35devil's advocate, but you see,
  327. 11:36typically
  328. 11:37>> Volkenovski also has to extend.
  329. 11:40>> You have guys where I understand that
  330. 11:41things are going well. Alexander
  331. 11:42Volkanovski, well without being, you
  332. 11:44know, the guy who is, who is, uh, who
  333. 11:46provides a lot of services to the UFC,
  334. 11:48I understand that things are going well
  335. 11:49for him because, well, he doesn't do
  336. 11:51anything stupid and he's, so to speak,
  337. 11:53an example to follow. A guy like Polo
  338. 11:55Costa, I put myself in the shoes of the
  339. 11:57UFC too, you say to yourself today, OK,
  340. 11:59the guy is back in the right place. I
  341. 12:01think you can't help but think, "Wait,
  342. 12:03there was Fight Week against Adessia
  343. 12:04where the guy says he got really pumped
  344. 12:06up right before. The fight after, while
  345. 12:08we're still investing in the guy, it's
  346. 12:10supposed to be the revival of MMA in
  347. 12:12Brazil. He enters the fight against
  348. 12:15Marvin Vetory, he weighs, uh, 84 kg. I
  349. 12:18don't think so guys, I think I think
  350. 12:20we're going to have to do it, huh? Well
  351. 12:22, there you go, you see how you do it.
  352. 12:25And I think a company like the UFC
  353. 12:27thinks," OK, today, it's been maybe 2
  354. 12:29years since Polo Costa got back to
  355. 12:31where he belonged, but the last time he
  356. 12:32had this peak of fame where it was
  357. 12:34really Primeolo Costa, undefeated,
  358. 12:36Adesania and then Marvin Vetori, the
  359. 12:38guy did this kind of crazy thing to us.
  360. 12:41"Do we really want to put ourselves in
  361. 12:43a position where we extend him for
  362. 12:45hours at a sum that is, finally, h
  363. 12:47fights, at a sum that is still pretty
  364. 12:50hardcore and that the guy potentially
  365. 12:52repeats a bit of a cable? We put a
  366. 12:54crazy event in Rio for him, we put him
  367. 12:57for the Light Evip title, Prochaka.
  368. 13:00Start of fight guys. Uh if we can do
  369. 13:03that, if we can do that in heavyweight,
  370. 13:05vacant belt, I would be fine with that.
  371. 13:09>> Oh yeah, that's it. You make your
  372. 13:12company look like idiots or amateurs.
  373. 13:15Well, a similar case with Shun
  374. 13:17Streakland where I think that the UFC
  375. 13:18also says to itself:" The guy became
  376. 13:20champion, did all this cash-in-the-box
  377. 13:21stuff with the UFC White House, White
  378. 13:23House and everything, it's part of the
  379. 13:24character and that's why Shun Street
  380. 13:26Cland works. "But we are in a situation
  381. 13:28where, and that's why for me there is
  382. 13:30still a difference between Josh Okit
  383. 13:31and Shun Streakland, because Josh Okit,
  384. 13:33we see that he is a character and that
  385. 13:34yes, he is going to do his extra steps
  386. 13:36with Michel Obama and everything, but
  387. 13:37you feel the guy is just forcing it,
  388. 13:39thinking," I must craft the kind of
  389. 13:40sentence that gets people talking. "But
  390. 13:42I think that as soon as he gets the
  391. 13:43phone call from the UFC, FC Josh Kit.
  392. 13:45Okay, great, you shut up and let's go.
  393. 13:47Shland says. I think the FC, they're
  394. 13:50like," This guy brings us a lot of
  395. 13:52money and, in terms of sport, he's
  396. 13:53doing crazy performances, "but the guy
  397. 13:55is so uncontrollable and can come out
  398. 13:57with crazy things that I'm
  399. 13:59>> really, I'm convinced that every
  400. 14:01post-fight interview, all the UFC
  401. 14:03bosses are like," Please, yeah, please,
  402. 14:06please, let him not come out with crazy
  403. 14:08things, even towards a sponsor,
  404. 14:10something like that, and...And really,
  405. 14:13in my opinion, they're really into that
  406. 14:15. The UFC is very important to us
  407. 14:17because, because he speaks to a certain
  408. 14:19audience. Sportingly, he is very strong
  409. 14:21and, at once, puts up some crazy
  410. 14:22numbers. But if you let a young
  411. 14:25streaker loose like that and really
  412. 14:28push him to the limit, it could
  413. 14:30potentially backfire on you.
  414. 14:32>> Well, that's for sure. But how do you
  415. 14:34actually get out of that situation, out
  416. 14:36of that situation, if you're one and
  417. 14:37you're the other, actually? Because,
  418. 14:39well, Sha Streak, he might not let go
  419. 14:42of the steak. We'll see, maybe he'll
  420. 14:45come to his senses or something. For me
  421. 14:48, he has every reason not to be happy,
  422. 14:50but I mean, maybe he'll change his tune
  423. 14:52because he's so unpredictable and
  424. 14:53whatever. But if you have...Yeah, I
  425. 14:56think they'll never let go of the steak
  426. 14:57, huh.
  427. 14:59>> Well Danaw, you actually reacted there
  428. 15:01in the Contender Series like, well, he
  429. 15:03just...It's not like he signed a long
  430. 15:05time ago, he signed in May. You're
  431. 15:07finally for me Shan, unfortunately if
  432. 15:10you want to go all the way, you have to
  433. 15:12do a Francis Enganou. You see, you do a
  434. 15:15Francis Enganou or other guys,
  435. 15:17>> but it's already too late. So, sorry,
  436. 15:20when I say sorry, I don't think Shun
  437. 15:22Streakland has any interest in leaving
  438. 15:24the UFC. But when I say you want this
  439. 15:26revaluation, unfortunately, in fact,
  440. 15:27you have to keep winning, you see?
  441. 15:29You're in this situation, you keep
  442. 15:30going. A guy like Shunstrickland today,
  443. 15:32which represents, we're still in this
  444. 15:33thing of precisely, I was talking about
  445. 15:35it in relation to Mas Vidal, for me
  446. 15:36he's SHCKland, he's still that guy.
  447. 15:38It's never been cat punches when he
  448. 15:39beats he would be, Ramza Shimev, but
  449. 15:41for me he's exceeded his athletic
  450. 15:42potential. But if you're in A situation
  451. 15:45where you get banned from Sourdine, you
  452. 15:47defend your belt again. I don't see a
  453. 15:49world where the UFC doesn't say to
  454. 15:50itself: "Okay, the guy in every
  455. 15:51interview..." Because that's it, you're
  456. 15:53in the champion's position. If you keep
  457. 15:55saying every time, "Guys, I'm underpaid
  458. 15:57, the UFC bastards, Dana White, you
  459. 15:58weren't like this before, you're going
  460. 16:00to explode." Plus, all the guys, they
  461. 16:03have to put you in a good light. They
  462. 16:04have to put you in a good light.
  463. 16:07Especially since, as we mentioned in
  464. 16:09the previous podcast with Sh Streetland
  465. 16:10, we're saying that the UFC won't let
  466. 16:12go of the steak in the sense that
  467. 16:14they'll have to really make Sh
  468. 16:15Streetland row. But renegotiating
  469. 16:19current contracts is also routine,
  470. 16:22right? I mean, when Conor McGregor was
  471. 16:24on his extraordinary rise and he was
  472. 16:26winning fights and he finally really
  473. 16:28became a champion every time. It felt
  474. 16:30like every fight he doubled his number
  475. 16:32of followers, he exploded. Very quickly
  476. 16:35, the UFC, in the middle of his
  477. 16:37contracts, renegotiated upwards so that
  478. 16:40it would be much more in line with what
  479. 16:42he brings. So, I know, it may or may
  480. 16:46not be obvious, but obviously, the UFC
  481. 16:48can renegotiate the contract with a
  482. 16:50snap of its fingers if it decides to.
  483. 16:54And so, to go along with what you're
  484. 16:56saying, if that's what Sh Streakland
  485. 16:58ends up doing, that is to say, he
  486. 17:00fights under his conditions and things
  487. 17:02like that, that he fights against
  488. 17:04Nasourdine and that he wins against
  489. 17:06Nasourdine, and maybe spectacularly if
  490. 17:08he succeeds or something, well then
  491. 17:10indeed, he would greatly increase his
  492. 17:16chances and the probability that the
  493. 17:18UFC would accept, give in, so to speak,
  494. 17:21to renegotiate his contract and change
  495. 17:23the terms and all that. So that's it.
  496. 17:27Indeed, there will be arbitration that
  497. 17:28Strickland will have to make. Well, as
  498. 17:30long as I don't do anything, I won't
  499. 17:32increase my leverage a little bit, you
  500. 17:35see. But that's it and that was and has
  501. 17:37been Francis 'strength too, is that he
  502. 17:40>> was, he put himself in this situation
  503. 17:42of being able to have a showdown with
  504. 17:45the UFC, but in the meantime, Francis
  505. 17:47fought everyone on his very old
  506. 17:48contract and every time the UFC came up
  507. 17:51with new stuff, no, we continue. And
  508. 17:53the guy beat everyone. The guy really
  509. 17:56beat everyone. Then, there was even
  510. 17:58this fight against Cyril Gan which was
  511. 17:59the same. We're in a mess like Polo
  512. 18:02Costa in KF. You have cruciate
  513. 18:04ligaments, you don't give a damn, you
  514. 18:05fight him anyway, you go all in because
  515. 18:07if Francis lost, he would literally
  516. 18:09lose everything and well, he put
  517. 18:10himself in a position to win. But it's
  518. 18:12true that That's complicated, because
  519. 18:14you...you have to be in that situation,
  520. 18:16you tell yourself at some point: "I
  521. 18:17could potentially lose everything", and
  522. 18:19inevitably you talk about the UFC a
  523. 18:21little bit with your tail between your
  524. 18:23legs. But for me, Strickland is like
  525. 18:24that: you keep fighting, you win, and
  526. 18:26then after a while, you're going to be
  527. 18:27really good. And we see that clearly
  528. 18:29with guys, well, I'll take this example
  529. 18:31from Alexander Volkanovski: basically,
  530. 18:33he's a champion that no one wants, and
  531. 18:35today the guy is extremely well paid by
  532. 18:37the UFC because, well, the guy has
  533. 18:38become appreciated by everyone, has won
  534. 18:40a series of victories. And you put
  535. 18:42yourself in this situation where, well,
  536. 18:44on paper, everyone wants you to be,
  537. 18:46you're very well paid and you have
  538. 18:48these opportunities. Dimitrius Johnson,
  539. 18:50without wanting to beat him up again,
  540. 18:52but you see, he complained about being
  541. 18:54underpaid and everything. At one point,
  542. 18:57he had this opportunity to fight TJ
  543. 18:59Dacho. Except he wanted a million
  544. 19:01dollars. You win against TJ Dacho. I
  545. 19:04think the UFC would have said, okay, we
  546. 19:07still have to put the CO in there, you
  547. 19:10know. Unfortunately, he didn't want to.
  548. 19:12You lose against Henry Serouo B, the FC
  549. 19:14says, well, okay, let's trade him like
  550. 19:16a Pokémon card. Well, that's it. But
  551. 19:19because, indeed, as you were saying, if
  552. 19:21you win the fight, which is the arm
  553. 19:23wrestling fight, the fight where you
  554. 19:25took risks and stuff, and then you take
  555. 19:27the microphone and you say the same
  556. 19:29thing that Shckland is saying now, or
  557. 19:32if Dimitri Johnson had beaten TJ Dach.
  558. 19:35Then, of course, he...he...it's...
  559. 19:36they're still the masters of the game.
  560. 19:37But so, it's not that the UFC won't
  561. 19:39have a choice, but it's that there will
  562. 19:41be such a Media fervor, doubled,
  563. 19:43renewed from the fans, because on top
  564. 19:45of that you'll have this "you just won"
  565. 19:48thing and we know that, but we're the
  566. 19:50first ones, in the...in the...in
  567. 19:51people's minds, in the fans' minds,
  568. 19:53you're really...it's...you're dependent
  569. 19:56on your last performance. And if, on
  570. 19:58top of that, you already had a run and
  571. 20:00then you do this performance, you know,
  572. 20:01that takes you to the next level and
  573. 20:03you come up with your complaints, and
  574. 20:05suddenly people say: "Oh okay, he won,
  575. 20:07he entertained us, he did all these
  576. 20:08things, he's at the top and on top of
  577. 20:10that, so obviously, the UFC treats him
  578. 20:12like [ __ ]." Well then you'll indeed
  579. 20:14have a crazy impact. If, if right after
  580. 20:18the fight against Ramzat in the
  581. 20:19post-fight interview, that's what Sh
  582. 20:21Streetland said in the mode of well, I
  583. 20:23was basically put in a gun to the head,
  584. 20:25I had no choice but to sign this
  585. 20:27contract. I didn't want it, but the UFC
  586. 20:30is really a gangster. You wanted me to
  587. 20:32win against Ramzad? There you go, I won
  588. 20:34. Now, what do we do? In that case, I
  589. 20:36think it would have had a much bigger
  590. 20:38impact and a much better chance of the
  591. 20:40contract changing. So, well, he waited
  592. 20:43a few months. And you also have this
  593. 20:46thing where you can be in this
  594. 20:48situation, it also depends on your
  595. 20:50situation with the UFC. Guys, remember
  596. 20:53that a few months ago, the UFC offered
  597. 20:56John Jones 30 million to fight Thomas
  598. 20:59Spinal. Because John Jones, who I
  599. 21:02remind you had no problem with his new
  600. 21:05contract to fight Cyril, to fight STP,
  601. 21:07he was like: "Guys, I'm fine here now,
  602. 21:09I'm going to leave quietly." Well, when
  603. 21:13the UFC has no choice, Well, they gave
  604. 21:15you 30 million. And then, they offered
  605. 21:17him 15 million to fight the expert,
  606. 21:18because you put yourself in this
  607. 21:20situation where the UFC was like, "Okay
  608. 21:22, there you go." Like when Francis...
  609. 21:24What was Francis? What was it? 10 and 8
  610. 21:26million, I think, that he finally
  611. 21:28offered him for these two fights. Well,
  612. 21:29he offered him two very big ones, I
  613. 21:31don't remember exactly what they were,
  614. 21:33but basically to get him to re-sign
  615. 21:35with the UFC, he offered him two fights
  616. 21:37for his defenses, two big paydays for
  617. 21:39his belt defenses. But because you're
  618. 21:41in this situation where you've beaten
  619. 21:43everyone and the UF guys aren't stupid,
  620. 21:45guys, it's 95%of MMA, it's the UFC so
  621. 21:47they know exactly what they're doing.
  622. 21:51They can see that to get the guy back
  623. 21:53or like Conor McGregor who had a fight
  624. 21:54with the UFC for his return against Max
  625. 21:56, he was very Okay. He said, "They
  626. 21:58respected me, no problem.""Because yes,
  627. 22:00well he sees clearly, he sees clearly
  628. 22:02what's going on, that the guy calls
  629. 22:03back and everything, reports and
  630. 22:05everything. And so for me SH Streckland
  631. 22:07is also that, that today he is in a
  632. 22:09situation where the UFC, well they did
  633. 22:10their Tarsigné calculation in May.
  634. 22:12There, you have done...not...we are not
  635. 22:14in a situation, he has not proven
  636. 22:15himself, but we still have to do a
  637. 22:16little more for him to say to himself:"
  638. 22:18listen, Chun, we are going to discuss
  639. 22:19your contract again. "And in my opinion
  640. 22:21, indeed, it is a little early to say:"
  641. 22:23You signed in May, you have only fought
  642. 22:25one fight and now, you are facing
  643. 22:26Nasourdine. "Well, let's wait and see
  644. 22:28what happens, and it would not surprise
  645. 22:30me either if you face Nasourdine who,
  646. 22:32once again, is a fight that, well, no
  647. 22:33one wants to see. But I think that even
  648. 22:36for the UFC, you see, you are not in a
  649. 22:37situation where you are going to Break
  650. 22:39all records in terms of numbers for
  651. 22:41Fight Week. The fight will be
  652. 22:42spectacular, but you won't break all
  653. 22:43those records. The rematch against
  654. 22:46Ramzad for Shun Streakland, I think
  655. 22:48everyone is going to pick up their
  656. 22:49phones and say," Okay, guys, we saw
  657. 22:51what happened. "I remind you that it
  658. 22:53had more numbers, guys. Do you realize
  659. 22:55that the UFC Maison Blanche and what
  660. 22:57was it like? It's been 2 years since
  661. 22:59they've done those numbers during Fight
  662. 23:01Week. I think the phone is going to
  663. 23:03ring now, everyone is going to be in
  664. 23:05good mode, given what happened the
  665. 23:07first time, guys, don't worry, you're
  666. 23:08all going to be really, really good."
  667. 23:11And in my opinion, it's not for nothing
  668. 23:13that Ramza is kind of put on the back
  669. 23:15burner, like, "We're waiting to see
  670. 23:17what happens with Shland Nourdine and
  671. 23:19we're going to put a little spot for
  672. 23:21the UFC." Uh, what is International
  673. 23:23Fight Week or a really big one? In my
  674. 23:25opinion,
  675. 23:26>> well, that's why and that's That's why
  676. 23:29if the fight against Nassourdine ends
  677. 23:31up happening, it's really going to be
  678. 23:33tense. But on Ch Streakland's side,
  679. 23:36it's also tense, for he has so much at
  680. 23:38stake. But even for the fans, huh, it
  681. 23:42means that really, while Nassour
  682. 23:43himself is just doing his job and he's
  683. 23:45just coming to become world champion, I
  684. 23:46think that on the English-speaking side
  685. 23:48, if it continues like this and
  686. 23:49Johnstrickland ends up accepting the
  687. 23:51fight against Nasourdine, but while
  688. 23:52being in the mode "actually I accept
  689. 23:54because I have no choice, because
  690. 23:55so-and-so", and but there you have it,
  691. 23:57everything will be decided on this
  692. 23:59fight against Nasourdine and so-and-so.
  693. 24:01I think that people will be even more
  694. 24:05on Shaun Streakland's side against
  695. 24:06Nassourdine, in the mode: "Plus, the
  696. 24:08guy's risking his career, he's taking
  697. 24:09this fight when he doesn't want to and
  698. 24:11so-and-so" that. It's going to be, if
  699. 24:12this fight happens, it's really going
  700. 24:14to be a very weird thing, the fight
  701. 24:16against Nasourdine where, In fact, all
  702. 24:17the stakes will be almost outside of
  703. 24:19the fight against Nasourdine himself.
  704. 24:21It will be Shun Streakland against the
  705. 24:23UFC, it will be the rematch against
  706. 24:24Ramzad that everyone wants to see. It
  707. 24:26will be Shun Streakland and it will pay
  708. 24:28off and in the middle, well, there will
  709. 24:31be the grain of sand called Nasourdine.
  710. 24:33But it's almost unfair. Well, it's not
  711. 24:36unfair, it's just how it is, you see.
  712. 24:37But for Nasourdine, it will really be
  713. 24:39like all the English speakers will hope
  714. 24:41that Nasourdine loses just so that the
  715. 24:43thing continues and that everything
  716. 24:45goes as he would like, you see. But
  717. 24:46what is certain is that for the UFC,
  718. 24:48this is very bad. We remember at the
  719. 24:50time when there was all this stuff
  720. 24:52about fighters 'salaries. When you also
  721. 24:55have a champion who is as visible as
  722. 24:57Shun Streakland and we go back to the
  723. 24:59thing with John Jones where the UFC
  724. 25:00will be forced to Saying, "No, the guys
  725. 25:02are well paid and all." It's a really,
  726. 25:05really bad message overall to say that
  727. 25:08one of your superstars, one of the most
  728. 25:10visible guys like that, is complaining
  729. 25:12about his salary. It's always really
  730. 25:14bad on the UFC side. So that's why on
  731. 25:16both sides, it's in their interest that
  732. 25:19this can be resolved fairly quickly.
  733. 25:22>> Yeah. Well, let's hope so. Oh, I saw it
  734. 25:26, sorry. And, uh, horrible conclusion,
  735. 25:29uh, Brendan Allen, well, he deserves
  736. 25:32credit, he deserves credit for trying
  737. 25:34Brendan, who beat, uh, CLD, uh, last
  738. 25:36weekend, who made a disgusting post
  739. 25:38yesterday where he once again put
  740. 25:41Nasourdin Imamov instead of Nasordin
  741. 25:43Imavov with Brendan Allen. It pisses me
  742. 25:46off when there's stuff like that in the
  743. 25:49UFC mode. Make the fight that everyone
  744. 25:51wants to see. The rematch for the belt,
  745. 25:53this time for the vacant title. Brendan
  746. 25:55Allen Nassourdine Immaov give people
  747. 25:59what they want to see
  748. 26:01>> give people what they want you
  749. 26:03>> see that we are typically for me in a
  750. 26:06situation where on his Instagram people
  751. 26:08should maybe put that on order there
  752. 26:10you go
  753. 26:11>> Oh the fight that everyone wants damn
  754. 26:13it oh yes for the belt even. Okay.
  755. 26:15>> Yes. Oh yes for the belt okay.
  756. 26:18>> Yes, but look, that is typically the
  757. 26:19kind of thing that stresses me out. It
  758. 26:21gives me anxiety to see that when you
  759. 26:24have, you know, some kind of proof in
  760. 26:26front of you that a person you see is
  761. 26:28not in the real world in fact. He has a
  762. 26:31...He's in a kind of eco-friendly room,
  763. 26:32all alone in his corner where, yes,
  764. 26:34that's for sure, all his teammates, all
  765. 26:36his buddies on his Insta, people must
  766. 26:37tell him: "No but seriously, damn it,
  767. 26:39go against Nassourdine, I'm really
  768. 26:40excited, that's what I want to see and
  769. 26:42stuff." And the guy from the ne look at
  770. 26:45that you know and so he feels like and
  771. 26:47and he and he ends up coming out with
  772. 26:48sentences like "The fight that the
  773. 26:50whole world wants." Okay, he didn't say
  774. 26:51the whole world, but that everyone
  775. 26:53wants it. You know, that really worries
  776. 26:55me. It's tough. Yeah.
  777. 26:59>> Come on, scales, did you have anything
  778. 27:00else to say?
  779. 27:01>> Especially since the fight was still...
  780. 27:03Oh yeah, he won the first round, but
  781. 27:04after the first round at Kant Quant
  782. 27:06Ramsad when Nassourdine gets angry, we
  783. 27:07realize that they're not in the same
  784. 27:09league, in the same division. No, no,
  785. 27:10complicated. No, but then there you go,
  786. 27:13Brendon Allen there for the fight, for
  787. 27:15the title, hot hot hot hot.
  788. 27:18>> Yeah, you see the sentence, the
  789. 27:19sentence is tough.
  790. 27:20>> Yes, the sentence is complicated guys.
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