(SEALED) OCCB ONGOING INVESTIGATION - 10/16/1998 - AUDIO TAPE #3 — Transcript

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1. 0:00as good as Breeze, like you could. You
2. 0:02would [ __ ] die.
3. 0:04>> Okay, so they they manage the corners?
4. 0:07>> Yeah, yeah, they manage the
5. 0:08>> they manage how the security and you
6. 0:10know, what everyone's doing on the
7. 0:11corner.
8. 0:12>> Yeah, who got the guns, everything like
9. 0:13that. Yeah.
10. 0:14>> guns. Okay, so they're managing the
11. 0:16corners. East got the wrong corner in
12. 0:19you know, Highland area.
13. 0:21>> Yeah.
14. 0:23>> Okay. All right. And they they all take
15. 0:25orders from M.A.V.B., right?
16. 0:26>> Yeah.
17. 0:27>> Okay. All right.
18. 0:30Mhm. All right, so
19. 0:32we have Freaky G, he he runs the
20. 0:34Cluckin' Bell, Fat Dog runs Denver, Keon
21. 0:37runs the clock. I just want to make sure
22. 0:39that's all
23. 0:40>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24. 0:40>> written down here. Okay, fine. All
25. 0:42right.
26. 0:43Okay.
27. 0:47>> Oh, and there's there's another another
28. 0:49one of them named Preme. Preme runs the
29. 0:51U.
30. 0:52Uranus Street and Uranus Street is the
31. 0:55main street that we're beefing with
32. 0:57North Highland Hustlers cuz North
33. 0:59Highland used to kick it over there.
34. 1:01Yeah, but but East Highland is trying to
35. 1:03take that [ __ ] over and they they pretty
36. 1:05much are. And Supreme Preme run that
37. 1:07block.
38. 1:08And pretty much there's been a lot of
39. 1:10bloodshed on that [ __ ] Like my first
40. 1:12day out here, I'm originally from D.C.
41. 1:15And my first day out here, I got caught
42. 1:17I got jammed up selling some weed, but
43. 1:18when I got jammed up selling some weed,
44. 1:20them North boys came through and lit
45. 1:22that [ __ ] up. They hit up everybody on
46. 1:24that corner.
47. 1:26Yeah, Uranus Street, the U.
48. 1:29Yeah, that [ __ ] is that [ __ ] is like a
49. 1:30war zone. Like I don't even walk down
50. 1:32that street no more. That [ __ ] like
51. 1:35Even if it even if they say it's cool
52. 1:37with North Highland, they're not beefing
53. 1:39over there. Man,
54. 1:41I don't even I don't even worry about
55. 1:42that [ __ ] Like that [ __ ] is hot.
56. 1:46It's by that liquor store, that one
57. 1:48block with the liquor store.
58. 1:49>> I know exactly what you're talking
59. 1:50about. Okay.
60. 1:52All right. We'll see.
61. 1:54See. Haley, you got anything for this
62. 1:56guy, bro?
63. 1:58>> Just listening and observing.
64. 2:01>> All right. So, I'm going to go.
65. 2:04All right.
66. 2:05So, again, we're going to get into
67. 2:06another personal question here. I just
68. 2:08want you to be honest with me, okay? All
69. 2:10right. This this I need you to be 100%
70. 2:12honest. So, any time with the
71. 2:15East Town Hustlers, have they had you
72. 2:18you know, be involved in any
73. 2:20any any murder, any you know, you know,
74. 2:23accessories to murder, which you know,
75. 2:24counts as, you know, destroying
76. 2:25evidence, stealing corpses. Okay.
77. 2:28Nothing like that.
78. 2:30>> I've never The only I only know of like
79. 2:33that breeze killing and then the
80. 2:34shootings, but I've never been involved
81. 2:36like I've never put in any blood. The
82. 2:37most I've done is sold drugs, right.
83. 2:40>> Okay. All right. All right.
84. 2:44And they don't have you involved in
85. 2:45anything else like prostitution,
86. 2:48you know, extortion.
87. 2:50And it Yeah. Yeah. Pimping, extorting
88. 2:52people, you know, security money. So,
89. 2:54All right. Freaky G So,
90. 2:55>> fact, I'mma just lay this [ __ ] out.
91. 2:57Freaky G tried to put me on with this
92. 2:59stank [ __ ] [ __ ] from Alderney.
93. 3:01Yeah. His ass be pimping hoes out.
94. 3:06Sugar Sweet.
95. 3:08>> Sugar Sweet. All right.
96. 3:09>> That stank [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] that [ __ ]
97. 3:11>> Sweet.
98. 3:12That's her name?
99. 3:14>> Yeah. Sugar Sugar Sweet, but that [ __ ]
100. 3:16sour. I'm telling you.
101. 3:18>> Okay. All right. Thank you. So,
102. 3:21>> Hey, listen. If y'all ever off the clock
103. 3:23and if and y'all trying to, you know,
104. 3:24get y'all a little freak on, man, stay
105. 3:26stay steer the [ __ ] clear of that [ __ ]
106. 3:28Yeah. She burning, fool.
107. 3:31>> I understand. I understand. Thank you
108. 3:33for your concern,
109. 3:35Mr. Bowman. Um but, let's get back on
110. 3:39Freaky G. Freaky G, he's involved in the
111. 3:42pimping business. So, does he have Does
112. 3:45he have multiple
113. 3:47prostitutes or only one?
114. 3:49>> I'd say so. I don't know too much I
115. 3:51don't know too much about that, but I've
116. 3:52I've heard him on the phone with [ __ ]
117. 3:54and [ __ ] like you can just put two and
118. 3:56two together. Then he's also trying to
119. 3:57like give people [ __ ] and [ __ ] And
120. 4:00then their prices are outrageous like
121. 4:03Come on, bro.
122. 4:04>> his Do you have his phone number?
123. 4:06>> Yeah, I got all these people's phone
124. 4:07number. I got Munchie, AV, Preme,
125. 4:09everybody. Yeah.
126. 4:11>> Okay, perfect. That works. All right.
127. 4:15So, uh how about the rest of these guys?
128. 4:17Um are they involved in any other
129. 4:19rackets? Maybe like murder for hire,
130. 4:21anything like that? You know, that's
131. 4:22that's important.
132. 4:24>> Mhm.
133. 4:25They They definitely would. Like they
134. 4:27got guns and [ __ ] like yeah.
135. 4:29>> Okay. So, they will if they It's a need
136. 4:32like it's a a need basis. If they need
137. 4:34to extort somebody, they will.
138. 4:36>> They'll do that [ __ ] They'll do
139. 4:37anything. They'll do anything. They'll
140. 4:38do anything. Anything These
141. 4:40[ __ ] would do anything for a
142. 4:41dollar. Like it should already be put in
143. 4:44put in stone. He killed his own nephew.
144. 4:46Like they'll kill a [ __ ] a a kid.
145. 4:49Like they'll bro, I'm telling
146. 4:52[ __ ] are ruthless.
147. 4:54>> Okay. I understand I understand.
148. 4:57All right.
149. 4:58So, there's no I just want to confirm
150. 5:00there's no specific rackets aside from
151. 5:03the the dealing and then you know,
152. 5:04Freaky G's involved with prostitution.
153. 5:07>> Yeah.
154. 5:08>> Okay, perfect.
155. 5:09So, let's get more on to this um this
156. 5:12this this dealing aspect. And you know,
157. 5:14this is a question I don't really expect
158. 5:16you to answer for, but let's say your
159. 5:18boss is here around Keon, Preme, Freaky
160. 5:21G. Where where are they sourcing their
161. 5:22products from?
162. 5:25>> I don't know where they're personally
163. 5:26getting it from,
164. 5:27but the main person they're getting it
165. 5:29from is Freaky G. He's He's He's serving
166. 5:32mad bricks of coke and crack right now.
167. 5:35And then AV usually
168. 5:37handles the crack. And yeah.
169. 5:40They usually get that [ __ ] from AV and
170. 5:41Freak.
171. 5:43>> All right. So, I'm just going to lay
172. 5:44something out. I want you to you know,
173. 5:46let me know if this is something, you
174. 5:47know,
175. 5:48sounds familiar. All right, so let's say
176. 5:52AV's the big boss. He receives the
177. 5:54product, he gives it to Freaky G, Freaky
178. 5:56G distributes it to everyone. Does that
179. 5:59sound about right?
180. 6:00>> I feel like AV got his own connect cuz
181. 6:02Freaky G doing this on his own accord
182. 6:04cuz Freaky G trying to be the top
183. 6:05honcho. So, Freaky G got his own
184. 6:07connect.
185. 6:10>> Okay, so Freaky G
186. 6:12is supplying
187. 6:14everyone else from his own connect and
188. 6:16AV is also supplying everyone else.
189. 6:18>> Yeah.
190. 6:18>> umbrella. Okay. And let's say the rest
191. 6:21of bosses Keon, Preme, and Fat Doug. Do
192. 6:25they also receive their own Do they have
193. 6:28their own dealers or they primarily get
194. 6:30it from Freaky G and AV?
195. 6:31>> really know who Keon gets his [ __ ] from,
196. 6:33but Preme, I think Preme grows his own
197. 6:36weed and [ __ ] like that.
198. 6:39Yeah.
199. 6:40>> Okay. Okay. So, ultimately, do they pay
200. 6:43AV any of this or do they give it up to
201. 6:46AV or do they ask you to run any
202. 6:47packages?
203. 6:49>> I know
204. 6:50they give percentages to Freaky G people
205. 6:52get work from them, but it really
206. 6:54depends on who you get your work from
207. 6:55and you're giving a percent to, huh?
208. 6:57So, it just depends, yeah.
209. 6:59>> Yeah, just it's case-by-case deal. Okay.
210. 7:01>> Yeah.
211. 7:02>> All right. All right. All right.
212. 7:06So, I'm going to circle back to a
213. 7:09question I asked earlier. I believe it
214. 7:11was, um,
215. 7:12>> [clears throat]
216. 7:13>> believe it was about Freaky G. Um,
217. 7:15Freaky G
218. 7:18um,
219. 7:19so we we've already established he has a
220. 7:21pin bracket. We've already established
221. 7:23he's clocking bell cap. We've already
222. 7:24established he's somewhat of a
223. 7:25distributor.
224. 7:27Has he had any conflicts related to his
225. 7:30distribution or anything like that? Has
226. 7:32he had any trouble with anyone
227. 7:35recently? I you know, aside from, you
228. 7:37know, him
229. 7:38>> him dead and [ __ ] but that's just
230. 7:40internal conflict. External
231. 7:43He I ain't going to lie, I've heard that
232. 7:44he started the beef with the Nerf Island
233. 7:46boys, but he's on some [ __ ] like he's
234. 7:49trying to he's trying to dead that beef.
235. 7:52And that's why they're feeling some type
236. 7:53of way that he's working with them and
237. 7:55that's why they want him dead and they
238. 7:56feel like he's trying to like
239. 7:58be big be bigger than the program going
240. 8:00against the grain.
241. 8:02>> I see.
242. 8:03I see. So this Freaky G figure is
243. 8:06uh
244. 8:06he's like a revolutionary, right? Yeah.
245. 8:08He wants to do his own thing and change
246. 8:10change the way out of this.
247. 8:11>> Yeah, and I ain't going to lie, like I
248. 8:13said, like
249. 8:14>> Yeah.
250. 8:15Like not everyone like I [ __ ] with
251. 8:16Freaky G, but he like I said, he ain't
252. 8:19showing me no love, but
253. 8:21yeah, they he he's probably going to get
254. 8:23killed. I'mma be real. Like if he if he
255. 8:25gets killed
256. 8:26either AV or Fed Dog did that [ __ ]
257. 8:29>> Okay.
258. 8:31All right.
259. 8:32We're going to put one more recess on
260. 8:33this. Um
261. 8:36I appreciate your information. We're
262. 8:37going to get you We're going to get you
263. 8:38some paperwork, okay? And this paperwork
264. 8:40is going to solidify you as a police
265. 8:42confidential informant, okay? Now,
266. 8:44before
267. 8:45before you sign anything, I want you to
268. 8:47be aware of like three things here, bro.
269. 8:49All right. One,
270. 8:51if you're working as a confidential
271. 8:52informant,
272. 8:53you cannot get arrested, okay? It's very
273. 8:56imperative that you do not get arrested
274. 8:58and it's important that you do not
275. 9:00disclose your status as a core
276. 9:02confidential informant, obviously, you
277. 9:04know, unless you don't you want to die.
278. 9:06Or you know, get your ass kicked, okay?
279. 9:08This this is uh I'm going to propose
280. 9:10this to you I If if you agree, you let
281. 9:12me know, okay?
282. 9:13>> All right.
283. 9:14>> If we sign you on as a confidential
284. 9:16informant, we can provide you with help.
285. 9:18We can provide you with assets, money,
286. 9:20car, anything you need in the time,
287. 9:23we can provide it to you, okay? As long
288. 9:25as it's reasonable, okay? Obviously,
289. 9:27we're not going to give you a helicopter
290. 9:30and you can go fly around and meet Puff
291. 9:31Daddy and you know, explore the world.
292. 9:34But we we can get you things to protect
293. 9:36yourself
294. 9:37We get not protect yourself. We can have
295. 9:39things protect you. Put officers on
296. 9:41details on where you're at. If you don't
297. 9:43want stuff like that, we can have
298. 9:45somebody assigned to you watching you.
299. 9:47We can get you an apartment. We can get
300. 9:49you a car. We can get you money, food,
301. 9:51anything you need, we can get for you,
302. 9:53okay?
303. 9:54So, that'll be for you, you know. And
304. 9:56also, you know, when when things start
305. 9:59coming crashing down, you know, once
306. 10:00people start going to jail, you know,
307. 10:02you have a real out from this situation,
308. 10:04okay? I'm not going to lie to you.
309. 10:06It seems like you were involved, but you
310. 10:08were small. I like to tell this to a lot
311. 10:10of people, you're a small piece in a
312. 10:12large puzzle, okay? So, you know, once
313. 10:15everything's put you know put together,
314. 10:16we take a look back, you you you you're
315. 10:18small, you know what I'm saying? You're
316. 10:19not a big problem. If you fell out of
317. 10:22you know puzzle piece, you know, it'd
318. 10:23bother everyone, but you ultimately you
319. 10:25would be okay, all right?
320. 10:27You know what I'm saying? So, if you
321. 10:30know,
322. 10:31you won't you won't be immune, all
323. 10:33right? But you will have
324. 10:37you will be looked at differently,
325. 10:38especially if you take the stand and
326. 10:39testify and all that and and you know,
327. 10:43you you you really helped out. I mean,
328. 10:45you looking at you looking at nothing,
329. 10:47you know, in terms of time or you know,
330. 10:48penalties, okay?
331. 10:51>> [clears throat]
332. 10:51>> Again, I want you Look, if you have
333. 10:53anything that you held out during this
334. 10:54questioning or anything you want to tell
335. 10:56me or anything you might hold out in the
336. 10:58future, I just want you to know that you
337. 11:00cooperating is is probably the best
338. 11:03thing you can do for yourself and you
339. 11:04know, your friend Keon and you know,
340. 11:07anything right you you just being
341. 11:09honest, okay?
342. 11:11All right.
343. 11:12So, I appreciate the information we got
344. 11:14from you. So, if you would like, we can
345. 11:16sign you on as a confidential informant
346. 11:19and um
347. 11:21we can start that process today.
348. 11:23You comfortable with that? Yeah.
349. 11:26Okay, that's perfect, Mr. Bowman.
350. 11:28Well, um
351. 11:30I'm going to
352. 11:33I'm going to step out.
353. 11:37I'm going to run your I'm just going to
354. 11:39do a quick run of your information.
355. 11:41Uh Haley, could you grab any forensic
356. 11:43information like his fingerprints, his
357. 11:45uh
358. 11:46DNA?