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  1. 0:01okay welcome to one of these video
  2. 0:04lectures so
  3. 0:06here we are um i want to do a video
  4. 0:08lecture today on an event that happened
  5. 0:10in 1931 called the scottsboro boys by
  6. 0:12the way i don't even notice but from
  7. 0:13these lectures i moved my camera back a
  8. 0:16bit because i was so worried about this
  9. 0:17growing
  10. 0:19thing underneath my chin so i just
  11. 0:20didn't want to frighten anyone also
  12. 0:22today my shoulder is hurt really really
  13. 0:24bad and i know you don't care about this
  14. 0:26but this just means that like i'm a
  15. 0:28little bit of mobile here so like i so
  16. 0:31so so so bear bear with me all right
  17. 0:35the scottsboro boys this is actually a
  18. 0:36really important case it happened in
  19. 0:371931 and and and the ramifications are
  20. 0:40kind of slow but it's also a really
  21. 0:42interesting case to show basically the
  22. 0:44racism of the south in the 1930s in the
  23. 0:46middle of the great depression so here's
  24. 0:48what happened also forgive me as i
  25. 0:50fidget so much and look at my paper here
  26. 0:52to my left
  27. 0:53uh looking at my watch too because i
  28. 0:55don't want to go too long
  29. 0:56morning of march 25th 1931
  30. 1:00the southern rail left chattanooga going
  31. 1:02to the west it is a train going to the
  32. 1:05west
  33. 1:06about 24
  34. 1:07people riding this train now this
  35. 1:09happens in the great depression in 1931
  36. 1:11and maybe you've kind of gotten the idea
  37. 1:13or seen from from class how poor things
  38. 1:15were in the 1930s it was very very
  39. 1:17difficult for so many people and in fact
  40. 1:20many people actually rode trains looking
  41. 1:22for work or they just wanted to get out
  42. 1:24of one place looking to go to another
  43. 1:26place and a lot of people back there had
  44. 1:28cars maybe you remember talking about
  45. 1:29the 1920s in the prosperity 1920s but
  46. 1:32they couldn't keep the uptake of the
  47. 1:34cars they couldn't pay for the gasoline
  48. 1:36for the cars and so a lot of people rode
  49. 1:38trains it was actually very common
  50. 1:41this happens in alabama as the train
  51. 1:43from chattanooga chattanooga going into
  52. 1:45alabama and in on this train evidently
  53. 1:49one of the white riders accidentally
  54. 1:51steps on one of the hands of one of the
  55. 1:53black
  56. 1:54riders and a fight breaks out on the
  57. 1:57train with african-american riders
  58. 1:59fighting white riders
  59. 2:03and
  60. 2:04the white riders are pushed off the
  61. 2:06train no one is hurt in fact the
  62. 2:08african-american riders actually saved
  63. 2:10one
  64. 2:11of the white men in the fight because
  65. 2:14the train had sped up and they didn't
  66. 2:15want him to get hurt and so so this is
  67. 2:17just this is just just a normal kind of
  68. 2:20fight
  69. 2:21the train pulls into the station and
  70. 2:23word had somehow very quickly gotten out
  71. 2:25that there had been this big fight on
  72. 2:27this train
  73. 2:28and a vigilante group had already come
  74. 2:30together to arrest these
  75. 2:32african-american individuals
  76. 2:34and so they start to go looking for
  77. 2:36these for these individuals and as they
  78. 2:38go looking for these individuals two
  79. 2:40people come out of the train and it
  80. 2:42turns out that the two people that come
  81. 2:43out of the train are not the
  82. 2:44african-americans they're actually two
  83. 2:46girls
  84. 2:48uh victoria price and ruby bates
  85. 2:51and then one of the girls says something
  86. 2:53that will create an incredible firestorm
  87. 2:56and will basically ruin the lives of
  88. 2:58these nine young men
  89. 2:59one of the girls says that they had been
  90. 3:02raped that they had been gang-raped on
  91. 3:04this train
  92. 3:05and this is the deep south
  93. 3:07in the middle of jim crow
  94. 3:08in the middle of the great depression
  95. 3:10and immediately there is tremendous
  96. 3:16furor at these african-americans they
  97. 3:18are taken off this train
  98. 3:20they are tied up and taken to scottsboro
  99. 3:22so this is called the scottsboro boys
  100. 3:24they're named after the town they were
  101. 3:26taken to
  102. 3:27uh and vigilantes show up a sheriff
  103. 3:30there actually has to show up and
  104. 3:33basically make sure that they don't come
  105. 3:35into this in into the jail and take
  106. 3:38these boys and lynch them he actually
  107. 3:40has to protect the boys and
  108. 3:42a friend of mine named paul holder
  109. 3:45from my understanding it was one of his
  110. 3:47relatives
  111. 3:48paul holder was a governor
  112. 3:50a government professor here at mcc for a
  113. 3:52long time good friend of mine brilliant
  114. 3:54man a wonderful wonderful person
  115. 3:57and he told me that it had been his
  116. 3:59uncle that had been the sheriff
  117. 4:02great uncle that had been the sheriff
  118. 4:04that had actually protected these young
  119. 4:06men from being killed and by the way if
  120. 4:08you were accused of rape as an
  121. 4:09african-american in the 1930s you would
  122. 4:11be
  123. 4:12killed in a horrific way
  124. 4:14the national guard comes in and secures
  125. 4:17the jail
  126. 4:18of the nine so there's nine
  127. 4:20african-american boys
  128. 4:22uh
  129. 4:23the oldest was 19 the youngest was 13.
  130. 4:27one of the boys one of the young men
  131. 4:30was uh
  132. 4:31they're called this gospel boys and so
  133. 4:32that's so one of the young men
  134. 4:35willie roberson suffered from syphilis
  135. 4:37so bad that he could barely walk so he
  136. 4:40could not have committed rape at all
  137. 4:42physically and then owen montgomery was
  138. 4:44nearly blind and was desperately trying
  139. 4:47to get work to buy a pair of glasses
  140. 4:49again the youngest person was 13 years
  141. 4:51old
  142. 4:52and remember this is the great
  143. 4:53depression when the entire country
  144. 4:55including alabama is coming apart
  145. 4:57massive unemployment it's already a poor
  146. 4:59state not a massive industrial base
  147. 5:02increasing class and racial conflict
  148. 5:05calamitous conditions
  149. 5:07the two girls are also interesting ruby
  150. 5:09bass and victoria price were both from
  151. 5:10huntsville alabama which was about 40
  152. 5:12miles away from this
  153. 5:14they worked together in the poorest of
  154. 5:16the textile mills price had already been
  155. 5:18married two times had served time in the
  156. 5:20workhorse in the workhouse
  157. 5:23for vagrancy
  158. 5:24and for adultery
  159. 5:26she was tough and feisty she'd had a
  160. 5:29hard life
  161. 5:30uh the other girl 17 year old ruby bates
  162. 5:33is very quiet and soft spoken and priced
  163. 5:35the older girl
  164. 5:37victoria price dominates the younger
  165. 5:39girl
  166. 5:40bates
  167. 5:41they worked in terrible conditions for
  168. 5:4314 hours in deafening noise terrible air
  169. 5:46little light
  170. 5:47and wages were so low that both girls
  171. 5:49probably worked as prostitutes in 1931
  172. 5:52and they worked as prostitutes and lived
  173. 5:54in the african-american part of town and
  174. 5:57they were prostitutes both to black men
  175. 6:00and to white men
  176. 6:01and so their lives the lives they lived
  177. 6:04out on a daily basis
  178. 6:06were the opposite of the segregated
  179. 6:09lives of the middle class
  180. 6:12uh and of so many people in
  181. 6:15in alabama
  182. 6:16but once they accuse these nine men of
  183. 6:19gang rape
  184. 6:21all the cut all of a sudden they
  185. 6:24become symbolic
  186. 6:25uh of what the south has feared for so
  187. 6:28long
  188. 6:28and so basically crowds gather at this
  189. 6:31courthouse and they they're able to
  190. 6:33protect the boys for trial and at the
  191. 6:35first trial the crowd was huge the
  192. 6:36largest crowd in the history of
  193. 6:38scottsboro now scottsboro is a pretty
  194. 6:39small town
  195. 6:40uh the band playing dixie uh which is
  196. 6:44a a civil war era song of the
  197. 6:47confederacy
  198. 6:48many people are armed with short with
  199. 6:50shotguns the courthouse is
  200. 6:52ringed by 200 national guardsmen
  201. 6:55um and papers come out strongly against
  202. 6:57these nine young men they don't have any
  203. 7:00anyone to really represent them money is
  204. 7:03raised in desperation by their parents
  205. 7:05they had one 20-minute meeting with a
  206. 7:07lawyer uh who basically told these boys
  207. 7:10who were innocent these young men who
  208. 7:11were innocent that they should probably
  209. 7:13plead guilty according to one source one
  210. 7:15lawyer representing the boys had a 0.20
  211. 7:18alcohol level which is incredibly high
  212. 7:200.20 alcohol level uh and the other
  213. 7:23appointed was very old and was losing
  214. 7:25his memory so they did not have
  215. 7:27counsel
  216. 7:29that was equipped to defend them they
  217. 7:31had lawyers that weren't equipped to
  218. 7:33defend them
  219. 7:34one by one the boys were found guilty
  220. 7:37with these terrible lawyers and every
  221. 7:39time a guilty verdict was found and by
  222. 7:41the way they are charged with with this
  223. 7:44with this rape
  224. 7:45and it is a capital crime at the time so
  225. 7:47they are going to go and basically die
  226. 7:50uh by uh the death they will they will
  227. 7:53get the death penalty
  228. 7:55the only question in the first trial the
  229. 7:58only question in the first trial was
  230. 8:00whether or not the 13 year old should
  231. 8:02get the death penalty
  232. 8:04or life that was the only question and
  233. 8:06he ended up getting life in prison and
  234. 8:08not the death penalty that was that was
  235. 8:10the extent of it all these these nine
  236. 8:12young men
  237. 8:13suddenly find their lives turned upside
  238. 8:15down because of these these accusations
  239. 8:17by victoria price
  240. 8:19help comes for these nine these nine
  241. 8:21young men through the communist party
  242. 8:24which is really interesting no one
  243. 8:26really talks about the power of the
  244. 8:27communist party in america in the 1930s
  245. 8:29but if you think about it when you have
  246. 8:30incredibly dire economic situations all
  247. 8:33of a sudden
  248. 8:35you are much more willing to think about
  249. 8:38having the government provide equal
  250. 8:40access to capital for everyone and
  251. 8:43people are desperate and the communist
  252. 8:44party had already come into the south
  253. 8:46especially to try to bring attention to
  254. 8:49the plight of african-american
  255. 8:50sharecroppers
  256. 8:52sharecropping is a
  257. 8:54it's it's it's it's a it's a
  258. 8:57forced work
  259. 8:58style
  260. 8:59where
  261. 9:00as a farmer you basically have to go
  262. 9:02deeper and deeper in debt every year to
  263. 9:05be able to continue to form the land you
  264. 9:06don't own the land but you basically go
  265. 9:09in debt to farm the land and eventually
  266. 9:11because you can't make any money you go
  267. 9:13so deep in debt that you're forever tied
  268. 9:15to the land and it's actually incredibly
  269. 9:16economically crippling
  270. 9:18if you think about wealth and how wealth
  271. 9:20is generated a lot of wealth is
  272. 9:23generated by property that is passed
  273. 9:24down from generation to generation and
  274. 9:26sharecropping makes it absolutely
  275. 9:28impossible for any of these
  276. 9:29african-american farmers to ever
  277. 9:31generate family wealth to pass down to
  278. 9:34their to their children and so the
  279. 9:36communist party had come into the south
  280. 9:38and tried to basically create this
  281. 9:40this this movement
  282. 9:42among sharecroppers that would
  283. 9:43strengthen the communist party because
  284. 9:45it was such a brutal
  285. 9:47um
  286. 9:48unjust situation for so many of these
  287. 9:50african-american farmers
  288. 9:52and so there they will actually be the
  289. 9:54ones who represent
  290. 9:56the scottsboro boys
  291. 9:58um they they get a lawyer from new york
  292. 10:01and as they get a lawyer from new york
  293. 10:03from new york
  294. 10:05they basically are able to get the
  295. 10:06supreme court to look at this case
  296. 10:09and so they they get the case reviewed
  297. 10:11by the supreme court seeing my shoulders
  298. 10:12killing me
  299. 10:14the case goes up to the supreme court
  300. 10:16november uh i've already gone 10 minutes
  301. 10:19man i'm having so much fun
  302. 10:21november 1932 the supreme court was
  303. 10:23looking at the case they were
  304. 10:24considering whether the trial had been
  305. 10:26unfair and here's why this is really
  306. 10:28important in a court case called powell
  307. 10:30versus alabama this is super important
  308. 10:32powell versus alabama the supreme court
  309. 10:36is going to say it's going to decide
  310. 10:39and this is a massive deal this is a
  311. 10:41massive
  312. 10:42decision by the supreme court
  313. 10:44that the rights of these nine young men
  314. 10:48had been violated
  315. 10:49because they applied the due process
  316. 10:52clause now stay with me i'm about to
  317. 10:53throw something at you completely
  318. 10:54complicated super complicated
  319. 10:57hang on
  320. 10:58i'm just gonna go through this
  321. 11:00they they basically said that they
  322. 11:03they they apply the due process clause
  323. 11:05of the 14th amendment saying that
  324. 11:07everyone should basically have due
  325. 11:08process before the law
  326. 11:10and they said that the young men had not
  327. 11:12had access
  328. 11:14to
  329. 11:15um
  330. 11:16[Music]
  331. 11:17to good counsel
  332. 11:19in this capital case and it applied the
  333. 11:22sixth amendment okay this is really
  334. 11:23confusing and would be better so you
  335. 11:25would be better served with a better
  336. 11:26explanation in a constitutional law
  337. 11:29class but here's what i'm going to try
  338. 11:30to say here's the point i'm going to try
  339. 11:31to make
  340. 11:32for the first time really maybe really
  341. 11:34really for the first time strongly
  342. 11:36the supreme court is going to apply part
  343. 11:38of the sixth amendment
  344. 11:40to the states before this the bill of
  345. 11:43rights the firsts and amendments had not
  346. 11:46really been applied to the states it had
  347. 11:48only been applied to the federal
  348. 11:49government from the bill of rights had
  349. 11:51been written for the federal government
  350. 11:53james madison when he had written so
  351. 11:54many of these amendments had basically
  352. 11:56tried to shield the country from the
  353. 11:57power of the federal government in
  354. 12:00response to
  355. 12:01the american revolution
  356. 12:03and all of a sudden here you have the
  357. 12:05application of the sixth amendment
  358. 12:08to the states
  359. 12:10in this
  360. 12:11case only dealing with dealing with
  361. 12:13council
  362. 12:15to have the to have the uh assistance of
  363. 12:18capable council before a a a capital
  364. 12:22trial in other words you have to have
  365. 12:23good counsel in a trial that involves
  366. 12:26the death penalty and this is called
  367. 12:27this is very important it's going to be
  368. 12:28on the quiz this is called incorporation
  369. 12:31the application of the bill of rights to
  370. 12:34the state and it happens one clause
  371. 12:36literally at a time there's parts of the
  372. 12:38bill of rights that have still not been
  373. 12:39incorporated to the states it happens
  374. 12:41one at a time but this is a big deal
  375. 12:43because all of a sudden it is putting
  376. 12:44the states under
  377. 12:46under
  378. 12:47the constitution and under the first ten
  379. 12:50amendments of the bill of rights and
  380. 12:51here it is the sixth amendment and
  381. 12:53access to capable counsel in a capital
  382. 12:55trial
  383. 12:56so
  384. 12:57the supreme court says the trial is bad
  385. 13:00alabama incorporates the sixth amendment
  386. 13:02the trial was bad and they must have a
  387. 13:04new trial and so the communist party
  388. 13:07hires a lawyer named samuel leibowitz
  389. 13:10who had won 77 out of 78 cases defending
  390. 13:14all types of all types of people this
  391. 13:16guy is a brilliant lawyer he's very very
  392. 13:18good he's a showman he's a bit of an
  393. 13:21actor
  394. 13:23but he was an outsider coming into the
  395. 13:26deep south that is very skeptical of
  396. 13:28outsiders the second trial was in
  397. 13:30decatur alabama they will try a young
  398. 13:32man named haywood patterson first
  399. 13:34all 12 jurors were white
  400. 13:37no one has seen by the way ruby bates at
  401. 13:40all she's basically disappeared
  402. 13:43as the trial starts
  403. 13:45liebowitz begins to poke holes in the
  404. 13:48prosecution he has a
  405. 13:51uh
  406. 13:52basically um
  407. 13:53[Music]
  408. 13:55begins to question victoria price
  409. 13:57and it very quickly anyone watching this
  410. 14:01could see that victoria price was lying
  411. 14:03but the problem with with questioning
  412. 14:05victoria price is that she actually was
  413. 14:08as aggressive back to leibowitz as he
  414. 14:11was to her and the fact that this was
  415. 14:13happening in the south
  416. 14:15from a man from new york in 1931 who was
  417. 14:17being incredibly rude to a female on the
  418. 14:20witness stand
  419. 14:22turned the jury against him now no
  420. 14:23matter what the jury was going to
  421. 14:25find patterson guilty but
  422. 14:28he didn't understand the south leedwoods
  423. 14:29does not understand himself
  424. 14:32uh victoria uh
  425. 14:34price kept saying over and over about
  426. 14:36every question that she says every
  427. 14:38question she's answered that she can't
  428. 14:40remember uh and she lied openly in her
  429. 14:44testimony
  430. 14:46and then they began to bring other
  431. 14:47things out the girls were actually
  432. 14:48examined by a doctor after these
  433. 14:50allegations and there were no physical
  434. 14:52signs uh
  435. 14:54of rape
  436. 14:56and then uh after this
  437. 14:59there is
  438. 15:00a massive surprise
  439. 15:03in comes to the trial
  440. 15:05ruby bates the 17 year old girl who had
  441. 15:08been the friend of victoria price now
  442. 15:10remember victoria price was the push
  443. 15:11your girl and ruby bates comes in
  444. 15:14as a surprise
  445. 15:16and says that she had never been raped
  446. 15:18that she that her testimony had come
  447. 15:20out because of the pressure of of her
  448. 15:22friend
  449. 15:23she had actually spent months in hiding
  450. 15:25and had been tracked down
  451. 15:28everyone is shocked until the
  452. 15:29cross-examination began and then they
  453. 15:32began to attack the testimony of ruby
  454. 15:34base how did you come how do you have
  455. 15:36money oh i understand this now the
  456. 15:38communist party is paying you for your
  457. 15:41testimony to recant and she fell apart
  458. 15:45on the witness stand poor ruby ruby
  459. 15:48bates did the jury and here's the direct
  460. 15:50quote i have smelled the north on her
  461. 15:53and she is ridiculed
  462. 15:55for her clothes
  463. 15:56and it falls apart and once again the 12
  464. 15:59men on the jury find floyd patterson
  465. 16:02guilty to be electrocuted like by the
  466. 16:05electric chair and leibowitz
  467. 16:07can't believe it he had
  468. 16:10proved
  469. 16:11that victoria price was was lying he had
  470. 16:13proven it i mean he had proven in the
  471. 16:14trial
  472. 16:15he had a witness who had recanted and
  473. 16:17said that none of this had ever happened
  474. 16:20he basically had proven the innocence of
  475. 16:22these nine young men and still they're
  476. 16:24all found guilty he cannot believe it
  477. 16:26and so he appeals to the judge a man
  478. 16:28named james horton for a new trial and
  479. 16:31james horton is in a dilemma so james
  480. 16:33horton is one of these
  481. 16:34old southern traditional gentlemen
  482. 16:38and he's under incredible pressure
  483. 16:42to let this young man these young men
  484. 16:44basically go
  485. 16:46go to their death in prison no one had
  486. 16:49corroborated price
  487. 16:50price had shown no signs of rape to the
  488. 16:53doctor
  489. 16:54um
  490. 16:55horton saw how she had lied on the stand
  491. 16:58and in an incredibly courageous move
  492. 17:01that will cost him his career as a judge
  493. 17:03in many ways his standing in the
  494. 17:04community
  495. 17:05june 22 1933 horton sets aside the
  496. 17:08guilty verdict
  497. 17:09and orders a third trial
  498. 17:13um
  499. 17:14so now there will be a third trial of
  500. 17:17these young men
  501. 17:19and as this happens they of course the
  502. 17:21prosecution brings in a friendly judge
  503. 17:24and man seven-year-old william callahan
  504. 17:27and uh once again the
  505. 17:30jury deliberates after the trial
  506. 17:32and once again the boys are saying these
  507. 17:35young men are sent back to death row
  508. 17:38getting closer and closer every time to
  509. 17:40edu execution
  510. 17:42and once again
  511. 17:44lebowitz will push this court case up to
  512. 17:46the supreme court because he's
  513. 17:47frustrated that on the jury there are
  514. 17:49only white
  515. 17:51white men on this jury they all been all
  516. 17:53white jew i mean it would all be all
  517. 17:55white jury and liberal it's believed
  518. 17:57that this did not offer equal protection
  519. 17:59before the law in fact
  520. 18:01they are able to prove before the
  521. 18:02supreme court in a second second very
  522. 18:05important court case called norris
  523. 18:08versus alabama norris versus alabama
  524. 18:11that basically they had purpo that
  525. 18:13alabama and scottsboro that this trial
  526. 18:16they had purposely prohibited african
  527. 18:19americans from serving on the juries by
  528. 18:21producing jury roles that only had white
  529. 18:23members and even more
  530. 18:26ridiculous was the fact that
  531. 18:29african-american names had been scrawled
  532. 18:31and literally in incredibly
  533. 18:34primitive handwriting at the bottom
  534. 18:36crude crude in fact i watched the
  535. 18:38documentary and they mocked this
  536. 18:39handwriting where they literally tried
  537. 18:41to add these these these
  538. 18:44african-american names who might be
  539. 18:45called in a jury this is norris versus
  540. 18:47alabama
  541. 18:48so once again the supreme court says
  542. 18:50they excluded african-americans from the
  543. 18:52jury
  544. 18:53did not allow due process
  545. 18:55once again for a third time
  546. 18:57overturned the guilty verdicts by the
  547. 19:00way this has a this this norris versus
  548. 19:02alabama has has has a pretty major
  549. 19:04impact because after this this begins to
  550. 19:07slow very slow very slow but begins to
  551. 19:10desegregation
  552. 19:11of southern juries uh where african
  553. 19:14americans begin to begin to appear on
  554. 19:16southern juries it's a slow process but
  555. 19:18norris versus alabama is important
  556. 19:21the fourth trial
  557. 19:23leibowitz gives up stands aside for a
  558. 19:25southern attorney
  559. 19:27five of the defendants are convicted
  560. 19:30this time but four are abruptly released
  561. 19:32they're just released out of the blue
  562. 19:34they released a young man who had bad
  563. 19:36eyesight
  564. 19:37they released a young man who had
  565. 19:39syphilis
  566. 19:40they had released a young young man who
  567. 19:41was 13 year old when this was occurred
  568. 19:43and basically after six years in jail
  569. 19:46for a crime that it was pretty obvious
  570. 19:48that they had never committed
  571. 19:50they are out of jail taken to new york
  572. 19:53are heroes for 15 minutes of fame
  573. 19:56and then drift off into obscurity and
  574. 19:59are basically forgotten
  575. 20:00the five who are left only had their
  576. 20:02despair heightened
  577. 20:03by 1941 the parole board refused three
  578. 20:06times to free the prisoners
  579. 20:08um and finally 1943
  580. 20:11it begins to give in and slowly
  581. 20:13individuals are given parole for this
  582. 20:16case by this time by this time after
  583. 20:19three trials
  584. 20:20alabama just wants this to go away they
  585. 20:22don't want any more notoriety they just
  586. 20:23wanted to go away
  587. 20:25the last person who escaped was a young
  588. 20:27man named floyd patterson
  589. 20:29who slipped away after working with
  590. 20:31other prisoners he was working outside
  591. 20:33on and is able to slip away and makes
  592. 20:36his way to detroit
  593. 20:38he escapes
  594. 20:40and
  595. 20:41is never returned to alabama
  596. 20:44so this is the scottsboro boys it was a
  597. 20:48terribly
  598. 20:49unfair
  599. 20:51racially unjust trial
  600. 20:53in which many people in the state of
  601. 20:55alabama
  602. 20:56actually applauded themselves that the
  603. 20:59boys were not lynched and that they were
  604. 21:02given deeply unfair trials
  605. 21:05and would be executed by the state
  606. 21:07scottsboro really has never lived down
  607. 21:09the tragedy judge
  608. 21:11james horton was defeated for reelection
  609. 21:14would never serve again as a judge
  610. 21:16lebowitz never won a victory in the
  611. 21:18alabama courts but leave awaits if you
  612. 21:20think about it despite losing he did
  613. 21:22save their lives norris versus alabama
  614. 21:25again began the slow integration of
  615. 21:27southern juries helping future legal
  616. 21:29victories in the south
  617. 21:31victoria price disappears as does ruby
  618. 21:34bates
  619. 21:36but she reappears and then and
  620. 21:39i believe in the 1970s
  621. 21:41when nbc basically shows a movie
  622. 21:44portraying the scottsboro boys
  623. 21:46and the actor portraying victoria price
  624. 21:48is portrayed as a prostitute and a liar
  625. 21:51and she actually sued nbc
  626. 21:53and they settled out of court which in
  627. 21:56my understanding i don't know how much
  628. 21:57money she got but if they settle out of
  629. 21:59court that means she probably won some
  630. 22:00kind of financial
  631. 22:02decision behind the scenes because they
  632. 22:04settled
  633. 22:05most of the scottsboro boys led troubled
  634. 22:07lives after release
  635. 22:08only clarence norris would be able to
  636. 22:11emotionally survive and live
  637. 22:14a a life that would always be difficult
  638. 22:17he would fight to have his name cleared
  639. 22:19and in 1976 clarence norris would be
  640. 22:22pardoned by the alabama governor george
  641. 22:24wallace and he would finally die in 1989
  642. 22:27of old age
  643. 22:28it's it's in many ways the scots four
  644. 22:30boys is a heartbreaking
  645. 22:33trial
  646. 22:34but i have two comments on it and then
  647. 22:35i'm done
  648. 22:37oh my gosh 22 minutes
  649. 22:39poor people
  650. 22:41two comments about the scottish boy
  651. 22:42straw comment number one
  652. 22:44um
  653. 22:46it shows the deeply
  654. 22:48the deep racism of the south under jim
  655. 22:50crow that these young men who had
  656. 22:53obviously pretty obviously never
  657. 22:54committed the crime of rape and never
  658. 22:58committed it at all
  659. 23:00would basically languish in prison
  660. 23:02for three trials
  661. 23:04and one young man for 17 years but the
  662. 23:07second thing that comes out of this is
  663. 23:08you see the slow changing of the supreme
  664. 23:10court
  665. 23:11you have two really really important
  666. 23:12decisions out of the supreme court
  667. 23:14powell versus alabama which brings about
  668. 23:16incorporation where the sixth amendment
  669. 23:18is applied to the state where you have
  670. 23:20to have capable defense a good defense
  671. 23:22for a capital trial
  672. 23:24and norris versus alabama where all of a
  673. 23:26sudden you have the beginning of the
  674. 23:27desegregation of southern jury rules and
  675. 23:30so
  676. 23:31it's actually a really important case
  677. 23:33that will plant the seeds plant to plant
  678. 23:35the seeds of future changes in the
  679. 23:37future thanks for surviving this
  680. 23:40uh i hope you're doing well thank you
  681. 23:42very much

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