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0:00on November 12 2004 after a six-month
0:04jury trial Scott Peterson was convicted
0:06of the homicide of his pregnant wife
0:08Lacey and their unborn son Connor we
0:11find a defendant Scott Lee Peterson
0:13guilty of the crime of murder of Lacey
0:15Denise Peterson
0:18but what if I told you that regardless
0:21of what you may believe about his case
0:23that you have not heard the whole story
0:26a story that involves a well-funded
0:29effort to hide the truth and ultimately
0:31to deny Justice to the real victims of
0:34this case and I am confident that how
0:37this story ends will change the way that
0:39you see the Scott Peterson case for good
0:42when I originally started to write the
0:45script my intention was to create a
0:47single hour-long episode but after
0:49several hundred hours of research I
0:52stumbled onto something that was
0:54entirely unexpected what started off as
0:57a single thread that seemed out of place
0:59began to unravel and what I found is one
1:03of the most egregious efforts to deny
1:05Justice that I have seen in recent
1:08history and it is something that I
1:10believe to be one of the most important
1:12issues we face in our time as it relates
1:15to the criminal justice system and the
1:17way those cases are portrayed trade in
1:19the media but in order to tell this
1:21story we have to start at the very
1:23beginning and I promise you by the time
1:26I'm done you'll understand why I had to
1:29tell this story this way the initial
1:32disappearance of Lacey Peterson grabbed
1:34the attention of millions around the
1:36world when national news outlets picked
1:38up the story of the nearly
1:40eight-month-old pregnant wife of Scott
1:42Peterson who had gone missing on
1:44Christmas Eve under very mysterious
1:46circumstances KTVU Channel 2 reporter
1:49Ted Rollins joins us now live from
1:51Modesto with the story Ted they're
1:53looking for 26 year old Lacey Patterson
1:55of Modesto she is eight months pregnant
1:57we appreciate very much your attention
2:00to this incident Lacy was last seen by
2:02her husband Scott when she was walking
2:05her dog possibly in the area of East La
2:08Loma Park Dry Creek
2:10during the day before Christmas her
2:13husband was fishing in the Bay Area to
2:16many of us who carefully followed the
2:18case all of the available evidence
2:20presented on the Nightly News seemed to
2:22clearly establish that Scott Peterson's
2:24guilt was a foregone conclusion so when
2:27I began to watch the case unfold it came
2:29as no surprise to me when he was
2:31eventually put on trial and convicted
2:34but over the last several years an
2:36outspoken group of his supporters has
2:39seemingly begun to change The Narrative
2:41of his case a case that many believed
2:43had been long since adjudicated
2:45supporters of Scott Peterson have
2:48continued to grow in number year after
2:50year and in just the last few months
2:52alone his team has gained the support of
2:55well-known and respected members of the
2:57True Crime community and as a result of
3:00their influence they have given
3:02credibility to his cause in the eyes of
3:04the general public we have the evidence
3:07to show that Scott Peterson is innocent
3:09he should not be sitting on death row
3:10with this many unanswered questions
3:12within my first few days of researching
3:15this case I began to notice the sheer
3:17volume of people who had begun to show
3:20support for Scott Peterson's innocence
3:21all over the Internet and their numbers
3:24have grown in size and scope year after
3:27year from websites to forums subreddits
3:31and documentaries their presence is
3:33undeniable and now they are harnessing
3:36the power of the media to tell their
3:38narrative to the world
3:40but I wanted to know if there was any
3:42validity to their claims as well as to
3:45better understand the history of their
3:47movement and what I found is why this
3:50video is the longest I have ever created
3:53in my investigation I learned that
3:55support for Scott Peterson began in the
3:58early 2000s beginning primarily on
4:00scattered message boards all across the
4:02internet but the wave of recent support
4:05gained serious Traction in 2017 when a e
4:08released a six-part documentary series
4:11that brought their narrative to millions
4:13of curious Spectators the a E Series
4:16seemed to make the case that there was
4:18reason to allow people who previously
4:20believed in Scott's guilt to now have
4:23cause to believe in his innocence so I
4:26made the choice to find out for myself
4:28if the claims of his innocence were in
4:31fact true so before I watched the a E
4:34Series I made the decision to leave my
4:36preconceived notions at the door and
4:39allow myself to ask the question what if
4:42Scott Peterson was actually innocent his
4:46supporters contend that the media frenzy
4:48against him was an unfair and malicious
4:51denigration of an innocent man over
4:53overcome by a 24-hour news cycle that
4:56had already judged him guilty they
4:59explained that all of the evidence
5:00against him was entirely circumstantial
5:03that the prosecution had failed to prove
5:05their case and that no forensic evidence
5:08ever existed in his case do you believe
5:10that Lacey was alive on the morning of
5:13December 24th
5:1614 Witnesses who reported seeing Lacey
5:19and or Mackenzie walking in the
5:21neighborhood
5:23they also contend that the trial was
5:25contaminated by the media who had
5:27incorrectly bought into a false
5:29narrative about a man who was framed for
5:31a crime that he did not commit but if
5:34that were true and Scott Peterson was
5:37serving a sentence for a crime that he
5:39didn't actually do then that would mean
5:42that his conviction was a devastating
5:44travesty of justice and that he had been
5:46unfairly judged by the justice system so
5:50I decided to clear the Slate forget
5:52everything I thought I knew about this
5:55case and go back to the beginning
5:57reevaluating the evidence and allowing
6:00the facts to dictate where I would land
6:02on his case so with the BCM research
6:05team in tow we reviewed trial
6:07transcripts read through countless pages
6:10of available evidence reviewed every
6:12available document we could find and
6:15after hundreds of hours of painstaking
6:17notes analysis and review I was
6:21completely taken aback by what I found
6:24in those pages the evidence and Records
6:27would eventually cause me to arrive at
6:30an entirely new opinion of the Scott
6:32Peterson case based entirely and
6:35completely on the facts absent of media
6:38narratives and pundit opinions so today
6:41I want to invite you to join me on this
6:45arduous Trek because what I'm about to
6:47show you even if at times it may be
6:50things you already know there are parts
6:52to this story that I do not believe have
6:55been told and when I finally saw them it
6:58completely altered the way that I see
7:01True Crime cases forever today we will
7:05review the case of Scott Peterson
7:07carefully analyzing the claims of his
7:09innocence as well as outlining the
7:12prosecutions cased against him all while
7:14contrasting those details against the
7:17court record and once that is complete I
7:20will share with you what I believe is an
7:23urgent issue that we face in our time
7:25that directly stems from and impacts the
7:28family and memory of Lacey and Connor
7:31Peterson
7:32and I believe that by the time this
7:35video is over a compelling case will be
7:37made concerning the guilt or innocence
7:40of Scott Peterson this is a tale of two
7:44stories the Scott Peterson Case episode
7:47one
7:53[Music]
7:59it was the best of times it was the
8:02worst of times
8:04Scott and Lacey Peterson met at a local
8:06restaurant where Scott worked as a
8:08waiter in San Luis Obispo California
8:11they would eventually get married in
8:131997 and three years later purchased a
8:16home in the suburbs of Modesto
8:18California despite Scott's reticence to
8:21have a baby he would eventually give in
8:23and after many months of trying Lacey
8:25would eventually become pregnant in the
8:27early summer of 2002 with a due date in
8:30early February 2003. on December 23 2002
8:35Lacey and Scott went to a salon where
8:38Scott would get a haircut from lisi's
8:40Sister Amy Rocha while Scott was getting
8:42a haircut Lacey's sister mentioned that
8:44she needed to go pick up a gift basket
8:46the following day at 3 pm Scott Peterson
8:50quickly interjected offering to pick up
8:52the basket for her mentioning that he
8:54would be golfing in the area the
8:56following day later that same evening
8:58Lacey had a conversation with her mother
9:00Sharon Rocha confirming that she and
9:03Scott would join them the next evening
9:05for Christmas Eve dinner the following
9:08day on Christmas Eve Scott Peterson left
9:10the Peterson home to go fishing just
9:13after 10 A.M at 10 18 a.m a neighbor
9:16Karen's service notices the Peterson's
9:19dog Mackenzie wandering around the
9:21street aimlessly still wearing a leash
9:24that he would typically wear during
9:25walks
9:27Karen would notice that Scott's truck
9:29was gone but Lacey's vehicle was still
9:31in the driveway Karen would go on to
9:34place the Peterson's dog into their
9:36backyard closing the gate before she
9:38left after leaving his house Scott
9:41Peterson would then go to his workplace
9:43where he would work for a short time and
9:46then eventually began his trip to the
9:48Berkeley Marina where he went fishing on
9:50his new boat
9:51after about 90 minutes of fishing he
9:54left the marina and at 2 15 pm he called
9:57and left Lacey a voicemail
10:03in Berkeley I won't be able to get to
10:05develop Farms to get that basket for
10:07Papa I was hoping you would get this
10:09message and go on out there I'll see in
10:11a bit so we love you bye
10:14and this message
10:16Scott would eventually arrive home
10:18between 4 30 and 4 45 PM when he got
10:22home he noticed that his dog Mackenzie
10:24was on his leash and in the backyard he
10:27would walk into his house through the
10:29back doors that he noticed was unlocked
10:31once inside his house he placed his
10:34outfit that he had worn fishing that day
10:36in the washing machine went to the
10:38kitchen and ate a slice of pizza with
10:40milk and took a shower he would later
10:43state that he noticed Lacey's vehicle
10:45was still at the house but that he
10:47assumed she was at her mother's for
10:49their previously agreed-upon Christmas
10:51Eve dinner at 5 17 PM Scott called
10:54Sharon Rocha the mother of Lacey
10:57Peterson to inquire if she was there he
11:00explained to his mother-in-law that
11:02Lacey's car was still in the driveway
11:03and that when he had arrived home their
11:06doc Mackenzie was on his leash Scott
11:09said that Lacey was missing and after
11:12that moment nothing would ever be the
11:15same again
11:16we'd like to thank all of you for being
11:18here and helping us trying to find our
11:20daughter
11:25just like to send a message out there
11:27that
11:28Whoever has her please please please let
11:31her go bring her back we love her so
11:32much
11:33a short time later Scott began to try
11:36and locate Lacey unsuccessfully Scott
11:38would again call Lacey's mother and
11:40confirm that he had been unable to find
11:43her a short time later Ron gransky The
11:46Stepfather of Lacey Peterson would call
11:48the Modesto Police Department to report
11:50Lacey missing from that point forward
11:53The Disappearance of Lacey Peterson
11:55would take on a life of its own and in a
11:57matter of days the national media would
11:59take interest in the missing pregnant
12:01wife of Scott Peterson which would
12:03dominate the airwaves for many years to
12:06come by the following month it was
12:08revealed that Scott Peterson had been
12:10having a torrid affair with the 26 year
12:13old massage therapist Amber Frey the
12:16revelation of the affair seemed to be an
12:18insinuation of his culpability by the
12:21media as well as the various pundits who
12:24constantly railed against Peterson
12:25during this time it would have been
12:28nearly impossible to have been alive in
12:302003 and not have known about the lacian
12:33and Scott Peterson case the 24-hour news
12:36cycle made certain of that but it was
12:39the eventual discovery of Lacey and
12:41Connor Peterson's remains found washed
12:43up on the shore of the Berkeley Marina
12:45that seemed to send this case to the
12:48international stage within a week of
12:51their bodies being found Scott Peterson
12:53would be arrested for their homicide and
12:55the case against him would remain at the
12:57Forefront of the minds of the American
12:59people until well after his eventual
13:02prosecution and conviction so I wanted
13:06to know what were the new or compelling
13:08details supporters of Scott Peterson
13:10believed exonerated him of this crime in
13:14part two we will review the defense of
13:17Scott Peterson as well as the main
13:19arguments in support of his innocence
13:21and immediately following that we will
13:24review each argument and contrast it
13:27against the court record filed briefs
13:29and pleadings as well as any other
13:31evidence that was presented during and
13:34now after his trial and as always I will
13:37share with you my views of those facts
13:40let's begin in defense of Scott Peterson
13:45one of the first encounters that the
13:47general public had concerning the
13:49defense of Scott Peterson was the
13:50aforementioned a e documentary series
13:53the six-part series was mostly comprised
13:56of the Scott Peterson defense team his
13:58family and his other outspoken
14:00supporters with a small grouping of
14:02pundits still in favor of his guilt the
14:05family of Lacey Peterson did not
14:07participate in the series episode 1 of
14:10the documentary Begins by recounting the
14:12story of Scott and Lacey Peterson and
14:14from the onset it clearly sets out to
14:17establish the innocence of the accused
14:19former death row inmate if you know what
14:22this case from watching television
14:24probably almost everything you believe
14:26to be true about the case is not since
14:292017 virtually every major Network that
14:32covers True Crime content has released
14:35their own variations of the series which
14:37often includes the family of Scott
14:39Peterson and his many Defenders but
14:42because the a E Series represents some
14:45of the most detailed accounting of the
14:47Peterson defense it will serve as the
14:49backdrop for the details that we will
14:51review in our analysis from the very
14:54first episode it is presented to us that
14:56Scott Peterson was prosecuted tried and
14:59found guilty and the court of public
15:01opinion by the media long before he was
15:04ever arrested for the crime right away
15:07we are shown the throng of onlookers
15:10watching and waiting for the word of the
15:12jury's verdict then explosively reacting
15:16to the news that he had been found
15:18guilty we then begin to hear from the
15:21members of Scott Peterson's family and
15:23his passionate Defenders who tell us
15:26that everything we think we know about
15:28this case is wrong and over the course
15:30of the entire series we are given a
15:33detailed breakdown of the various
15:35arguments that they believe exonerates
15:38Scott Peterson but these are their
15:40primary arguments that they present in
15:42the series in support of his innocence
15:46the reason the police weren't able to
15:48find any evidence of a murder inside
15:49this house is because no murder occurred
15:52inside this house
15:54the important house was this house this
15:57house was being burglarized we are told
16:00that no evidence was found linking Scott
16:03Peterson to the crime for which he was
16:05convicted and that the entire case was
16:07purely circumstantial it is claimed that
16:10the Modesto Police Department zeroed in
16:13on Scott right after they reported that
16:15Lacey was missing despite the lack of
16:18any evidence of a crime having been
16:20committed in their home or at Scott's
16:22Warehouse they explained that on the
16:25morning that Lacey went missing the
16:27computer of Scott and Lacey Peterson
16:29appeared to have evidence that Lacey was
16:32online shopping for items on the
16:34couple's computer one of their most
16:36explosive claims is that 11 different
16:39independent people witnessed a pregnant
16:41Lacy Peterson walking their dog
16:44Mackenzie well after Scott left to go
16:47fishing that day
16:48we are told that Scott was honest with
16:51the cops and decided to go fishing that
16:53morning and that he went to Great
16:55Lengths to be helpful throughout his
16:57interactions with the police Scott's
16:59defense team explains that the
17:01Peterson's mail carrier who delivered
17:03the mail the day that Lacey's
17:05disappearance occurred at 10 38 a.m
17:08never heard Mackenzie bark that day
17:11something Mackenzie did on every day
17:14that he attempted to deliver the mail
17:16this claim is believed to prove that
17:19Lacey was out walking the dog since
17:21Karen's service had returned Mackenzie
17:23to the house at 10 18 am the brother and
17:27sister of Scott Peterson tells us that
17:29no one could know how they would react
17:32if they had lost a loved one or someone
17:34in their life that had gone missing and
17:36that we cannot judge Scott for his odd
17:39behavior and see it as proof of his
17:41criminality in this case lead defense
17:44counsel attorney garagos explains to us
17:47that the boat that Scott took onto the
17:49Berkeley Marina that day couldn't have
17:52possibly been able to carry the nearly
17:54full-term body of Lacey Peterson and not
17:57have been seen by the various onlookers
18:00at the marina and that it would have
18:01capsized when Scott attempted to push
18:04the anchored body over the edge we hear
18:07that Scott had been falsely accused of
18:09making concrete anchors that were later
18:12alleged by law enforcement have been
18:14used to weigh down Lacey's body despite
18:16the fact that there was evidence that he
18:19had used the excess concrete to fill in
18:21a hole at his home
18:23one of the most effective segments of
18:25the series shows us the incredibly
18:28damaging effect that Amber Frey had on
18:31Scott's case and how the public jumped
18:33to conclusions that because Scott had a
18:36mistress then surely he must have won at
18:38least he gone allowed Lacey's family to
18:42go on national television and defend him
18:45all the while lying through his teeth
18:48about this affair that was downright
18:50cruel and I think it tells us something
18:51about his personality it tells us
18:53something about his conscience and
18:56finally the primary argument heard
18:58countless times in this series is that
19:00the media tried and convicted Scott
19:03Peterson during their 24-hour media news
19:06cycle that the media bias caused the
19:09general public to believe that he was
19:11guilty of a crime that had no biological
19:14or forensic evidence whatsoever and if
19:18you were to add all of these details
19:20together along with the various other
19:22arguments presented in the series series
19:24it appears to be an incredibly powerful
19:26narrative that seems to point to the
19:28innocence of Scott Peterson so what
19:31happened how was he convicted on a
19:34purely circumstantial case that did not
19:36have any forensic evidence whatsoever I
19:40believe that what I have found in my
19:42research definitively answers that
19:44question but in order to understand the
19:47answer with proper context we have to
19:49start at the beginning and address the
19:51primary defense claims of Scott
19:53Peterson's innocence one by one
19:56number one the case against Scott
19:59Peterson was entirely circumstantial
20:02exactly two years to the day prior to
20:05The Disappearance of Lacey Peterson just
20:07five hours away in Los Angeles another
20:10homicide was being uncovered on
20:12Christmas Eve in the year 2000 the
20:15Beverly Hills Police Department had been
20:17notified of the execution-style homicide
20:20of Susan Berman Susan had been the
20:23daughter of the infamous gangster David
20:25Berman who had well-established ties to
20:27the mafia in his years operating The
20:30Flamingo Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas
20:32Nevada
20:33at the time it was believed that Berman
20:36may have been the unfortunate collateral
20:38damage of her father's past lifestyle
20:40related to his regrettable ties to the
20:43Mob but several days after her homicide
20:46the Beverly Hills Police Department
20:47would receive a letter with Susan
20:49Berman's address and the word cadaver
20:52written on the outside of the letter
20:54despite the homicide Department's
20:57attempts to solve her vicious crime it
20:59would sadly go on to become a cold case
21:01for nearly 15 years
21:04law enforcement was unable to find any
21:07forensic evidence or biological evidence
21:09they found no murder weapon and no
21:12indisputable suspects were able to be
21:14definitively tied to the crime scene
21:16where Berman was found but all of that
21:19would change when Andrew jarecki made
21:22the film All Good Things featuring Ryan
21:25Gosling and Kirsten Dunst the movie was
21:28based on the life of Robert Durst the
21:30once heir to the real estate dynasty of
21:33the Durst organization Durst would go on
21:35to participate in a documentary created
21:38by jerecki that would culminate in a
21:41spectacular ending that would have the
21:43unintended outcome of solving the
21:46homicide of Susan Berman you might be
21:49wondering how that was possible well for
21:51those who haven't seen the Netflix
21:52documentary The Jinx I highly recommend
21:55it it has one of the most explosive
21:57endings of any documentary you will ever
22:00see in your life but as a result of a
22:03single letter provided to the director
22:05Andrew durecki by Berman's stepson it
22:08provided the link between Robert Durst
22:10and the homicide of Susan Berman and
22:14this was accomplished simply because the
22:16handwriting of the word cadaver sent to
22:18the Beverly Hills Police Department in
22:21the year 2000 perfectly matched the
22:23handwriting and misspellings of Robert
22:26Durst a case that had been called for 15
22:29years was solved using entirely
22:32circumstantial evidence evidence that
22:34had definitively connected Robert Durst
22:37to a crime that he had successfully
22:39obscured and avoided for over 15 years
22:43in my many years of working with clients
22:45from all spectrums of societal
22:47backgrounds and experiences I have
22:49frequently noticed a common
22:51misconception concerning the matter of
22:53circumstantial evidence the pervasive
22:55ideas seems to be that forensic and
22:57biological evidence should be found in a
23:00homicide in that forensic evidence like
23:02DNA is virtually a requirement in order
23:05to link an offender to the crime and
23:08that without it the case becomes
23:09entirely circumstantial the word
23:11circumstantial has increasingly become
23:13viewed as synonymous with Reasonable
23:16Doubt amongst a surprisingly large
23:18majority of the general populace and
23:21this is something we've discussed on
23:23this channel in the past a term referred
23:25to as the CSI effect a reoccurring and
23:28increasingly pervasive belief that a
23:31criminal action involving a homicide
23:33must therefore also have compelling
23:35forensic evidence and the absence of
23:37that evidence likely points to the
23:39innocence of the accused party
23:41unfortunately that isn't always the case
23:44more times than not criminals who commit
23:47heinous crimes go to Great Lengths to
23:49attempt to cover them up especially if
23:51they have the time opportunity and
23:54ability to do so many times prosecutors
23:57only have circumstantial evidence
23:59available to them as a means to pursue
24:01Justice because the perpetrator has gone
24:04onto Such Great Lengths to hide obscure
24:07and eliminate the evidence but Robert
24:10Durst isn't the only example of an
24:13entirely circumstantial case that was
24:15solved another good example that
24:17involved circumstantial evidence is the
24:19case of Leonard Lake a man who was one
24:22of the most vile and fiendish criminals
24:24of the 20th century Leonard Lake and his
24:28accomplice Charles ing committed heinous
24:31crimes that left law enforcement shocked
24:33at the extent of his inhuman brutality
24:36eventually law enforcement took Lake
24:39into custody where he would demonstrate
24:41his cowardice of the justice system by
24:43way of successfully hiding cyanide pills
24:46from law enforcement but before law
24:48enforcement could act his accomplished
24:50Charles ing would go on the Run fleeing
24:53California and finding his way into
24:55Canada after several years Canadian law
24:58enforcement would eventually catch Ing
25:00and despite the enormity of the crimes
25:03that he had been accused Dove he would
25:05successfully delay his prosecution for
25:08well over a decade but even when his
25:11trial began the case against him was
25:13seen as largely circumstantial since the
25:16prosecution didn't have any direct
25:17evidence of him committing the crimes
25:19for which he was now standing trial even
25:22though video evidence existed they
25:25didn't have a Smoking Gun or any direct
25:27forensic evidence proving that he had
25:30personally harmed any of the victims
25:32that were later found on Leonard Lake's
25:34property law enforcement believed that
25:37great Lanes had been taken to hide and
25:39obscure the evidence linking into his
25:42crimes but the circumstantial case
25:44against him was considerable and the
25:47jury saw through his many attempts to
25:49escape and deny Justice to his many
25:52victims the jury would eventually
25:55convict and sentence ing to death row at
25:58San Quentin the same prison that he and
26:01Scott Peterson remained to this very day
26:04circumstantial cases are sometimes the
26:07only means a victim or their family has
26:10of obtaining Justice and if not for film
26:12director Andrew durecki it is entirely
26:15likely that Robert Durst would have
26:17lived out the remainder of his days a
26:20free man
26:21but a single letter a letter that was
26:24likely thought to be completely
26:25inconsequential change the outcome of
26:28that case for good A Cold Case lacking a
26:32forensic connection to the crime had
26:34been gifted compelling circumstantial
26:36evidence that clearly and profoundly
26:38established the guilt of Robert Durst a
26:41man who was later convicted for the
26:43homicide of Susan Berman nearly 20 years
26:47later
26:48but just because a circumstantial case
26:50can be enough to satisfy the burden of
26:52guilt can the same be said of Scott
26:54Peterson's case
26:56is there compelling evidence in either
26:58direction that supports or rejects his
27:01claims of Innocence let's review the
27:03facts
27:04number two the Modesto Police Department
27:07focused on Scott Peterson from the very
27:10beginning despite the lack of evidence
27:12of a crime throughout the various
27:14iterations of the Peterson defense it is
27:17often claimed that the Modesto Police
27:19Department unfairly honed in on Scout
27:22from the very beginning and never
27:24bothered to look at any other suspects
27:27in his wife's disappearance
27:29unfortunately after a cursory review of
27:32The Evidence it quickly became apparent
27:34to me that this claim is entirely untrue
27:37the Modesto Police Department did look
27:40into other suspects including every
27:43single member of the family of both
27:45Scott and Lacey Peterson this is known
27:48because we have recorded calls between
27:50the roaches and the Peterson Family
27:52where the police explain that they have
27:55cleared the family through an
27:57investigation of each person but that
28:00they had been unable to clear Scott in
28:03my career I learned a number of
28:05important truths about the life of a law
28:08enforcement officer whenever we analyze
28:11a case within the True Crime community
28:13no matter how much we learn about it we
28:15do so as laypeople but it is no
28:18substitution for what a homicide
28:20detective sees day after day
28:23over the years I learned from many
28:25experienced veteran law enforcement
28:27officers that the most common party
28:29responsible for The Disappearance of a
28:31spouse is often the spouse or someone
28:35close to them that the victim knew
28:37personally it's widely known in the law
28:39enforcement community that the last
28:42person to see the victim alive is the
28:44very first person you want to speak with
28:46in connection to that disappearance
28:49statistically speaking that person is
28:52often either responsible for the crime
28:54or knows details about the crime while
28:58that isn't always the case volumes of
29:00criminal statistics shows that a vast
29:03majority of crimes involving a homicide
29:05are often committed by someone close to
29:08the victim so the claim that the Modesto
29:11Police Department didn't consider any
29:13other suspects is patently untrue
29:16in fact they did consider the burglary
29:19that happened across the street to have
29:21some possible involvement in her
29:23disappearance and they said so in a
29:25press conference we have a witness that
29:27drove by the residents that lives in the
29:30area who saw a suspicious vehicle and
29:32some suspicious people feel that it's
29:34critical to either confirm is involved
29:36with Lacey's disappearance or that is
29:38just a burglary records show that they
29:41conducted an investigation of those
29:42suspects and ultimately cleared them
29:45because there was no evidence that they
29:47had any involvement in her disappearance
29:50eventually in the docu-series it's
29:52claimed that someone involved in the
29:54crime across the street also admitted to
29:57having involvement in Lacey's
29:58Disappearance in a recorded call but did
30:01you notice the call has never been
30:03produced additionally no evidence of any
30:06kind circumstantial or otherwise was
30:09ever found linking those people to her
30:12disappearance or her eventual homicide
30:15and more importantly there's the ongoing
30:18issue of motive for which these thieves
30:20had none to commit such a violent and
30:23heinous crime against the pregnant
30:25mother in my efforts to validate the
30:28claim that the Modesto Police unfairly
30:30focused on Scott I randomly came across
30:33something that happened mere hours after
30:35Lacey's disappearance was reported to
30:37police on December 25th just hours after
30:41their initial call Scott Peterson calls
30:43homicide detector brokini and asks if
30:46they've used cadaver dogs yet detective
30:49brokini was shocked by the question and
30:52asked him Scott cadaver dogs are used
30:54for sniffing out dead bodies have you
30:57given up hope for finding Lacey alive
30:59and Scott's response to his question was
31:02to say nothing at all
31:04now I don't have to be a member of law
31:07enforcement to know just how suspicious
31:09that question is because Scott had no
31:11reason to believe that Lacey was already
31:13deceased and that question is not at all
31:17something that is commonly asked in a
31:19disappearance before there is any reason
31:22to suspect a homicide that question
31:25alone would raise the suspicion of any
31:27law enforcement officer in that same
31:30situation on the a E network there is a
31:33show called the first 48. now for those
31:36of you who are unfamiliar with the show
31:37it is a series that follows real
31:40homicide detectives during the first 48
31:42hours after a homicide the entire
31:45premise of the show is that the first 48
31:47hours is the most critical time frame of
31:50law enforcement's investigation and that
31:52a vast majority of the details
31:54concerning that case are determined
31:56within a matter of hours after The
31:59Police become involved
32:01so it's not only common for police to
32:03have a suspect in mind right away it's
32:06the norm now I am not suggesting that
32:09law enforcement as a whole be given a
32:11pass whenever they have a rush to
32:12judgment what I am saying is that the
32:15narrative that Scott Peterson was an
32:17immediate suspect is not evidence of law
32:20enforcement's prejudice
32:22in fact the more I researched the more I
32:24found that law enforcement officers who
32:27initially responded to the scene
32:28eventually got together and discussed a
32:31series of concerns that they had after
32:33they had spoken with Scott and several
32:35of Lacey's family members the following
32:38are just some of their initial
32:40observations at the scene as stated in
32:43their reports
32:44they noticed that when they initially
32:46spoke with Scott he could not answer
32:48what he was fishing for that day
32:50additionally in that conversation he
32:53volunteered a receipt from the Berkeley
32:54Marina something that no one had asked
32:57him to do
32:59law enforcement was concerned that he'd
33:01never call police to report Lacey
33:03missing Lacey's stepfather Ron gransky
33:06did that their concerns were also
33:08heightened when they learned that Scott
33:10had come home from an unplanned fishing
33:13trip 90 minutes away notices his wife's
33:16car is in the driveway sees that she is
33:19nowhere to be found sees evidence that
33:22someone has walked the dog who was
33:24wandering around in their backyard and
33:26his first actions are to wash his
33:28clothes take a shower and eat pizza and
33:32milk detectives would also notice a
33:35bunched up rug near the Peterson's back
33:37door officers noticed that it appeared
33:39as though something was dragged over the
33:42top of it they also noticed that on the
33:45Peterson's bed there was a large
33:47body-like impression on it but most
33:50concerning to law enforcement was the
33:53fact that Scott Peterson never once
33:55called Lacey after he said that he
33:58noticed that she was missing he claims
34:01that he doesn't know where she was and
34:03yet he doesn't bother to call his
34:05pregnant wife on her cell phone I
34:08remember the first time that I read that
34:10I really stopped what I was doing to
34:12think about that for a moment you come
34:15home to an empty house your nearly
34:17full-term pregnant wife who had a
34:20fainting spell recently in the park is
34:22nowhere to be found her car is in the
34:24driveway her shoes are in the house and
34:27all of her other belongings are there as
34:29well and it never occurs to you to call
34:31her according to Scott Peterson he had
34:34no idea where Lacey was so why wouldn't
34:37he have tried to call her on her cell
34:39phone this is even more concerning when
34:41you realize that he had tried to call
34:43her at 2 15 on his way back from the
34:46marina but once he gets home and
34:49realizes that Lacey is missing his first
34:51call isn't to the police to report his
34:54wife missing it's to Lacey's mother to
34:56tell her that she's missing ladies and
34:59gentlemen that is the very definition of
35:02suspicious Behavior
35:04and if all you had seen was the a E
35:07Series you might incorrectly believe
35:09that police had wrongly suspected Scott
35:11but these issues were more than enough
35:14for any law enforcement agency to
35:16consider Scott a person of interest
35:19and despite the enormity of everything
35:21we just learned law enforcement still
35:24did not publicly list Scott as a suspect
35:27or as a person of interest for a
35:30considerable time after Lacey's initial
35:33disappearance one of the other important
35:35elements of criminology that I have
35:37learned over the years is the importance
35:39of motive understanding motive is an
35:42important element in understanding a
35:45crime a shockingly high percentage of
35:47cases that involve violent crimes have
35:50motive or someone involved who had
35:53reason to want to commit the crime and I
35:56suspect as we continue down the list of
35:58claims of Scott's innocence that motive
36:01is something we are going to want to
36:03keep at the Forefront of our analysis so
36:06let's continue
36:08number three Lacey accessed the Peterson
36:11computer at around 8 40 a.m on Christmas
36:14Eve proving that she was alive that
36:17morning in the docu-series the various
36:20Peterson Defenders portray this
36:23information as their Smoking Gun that
36:25completely disproves the case of the
36:27prosecution brought during the trial of
36:30Scott Peterson according to the computer
36:33expert witness 8 40 in the morning she
36:36disappears someone is on the Peterson
36:39home computer looking at a sunflower
36:41umbrella stand and women's clothing
36:43Lacey loves sunflowers to all her
36:45friends and family say that Janie
36:47Peterson the sister of Scott exclaims
36:49how critical this discovery was during
36:51the trial because it proved that Lacey
36:54was alive that morning at 8 40 a.m and
36:57if this were true then it would leave
36:59Scott an insufficient window of time to
37:02commit the crime when I watched this
37:05segment I was struck at how compelling
37:06this was because in fact the prosecution
37:09seem to contend that this may have
37:12actually happened but do you know what I
37:14found looking at the trial record I
37:17quickly realized that this claim is not
37:20even remotely accurate just moments
37:23before Lacey Peterson is supposedly
37:26online shopping Scott Peterson logs onto
37:29his password protected account and
37:32checks his private emails and a few
37:34moments after Lacey was supposedly
37:37online shopping we see Scott checking
37:39the weather at the Berkeley Marina
37:42playing the part of the Devil's Advocate
37:44it could be argued that maybe Lacey
37:47jumped onto the computer in between
37:49Scott checking his email and checking
37:51the weather at the marina but allow me
37:53to explain why that didn't happen
37:56because in the a E Series we actually
37:58learn that Scott didn't even know that
38:01Lacey had used the computer that morning
38:03but how in the world would that be
38:05possible when he's logged into his email
38:08checking it and then moments after she's
38:11supposedly online shopping he's then
38:13checking the weather at the marina
38:15but there's something even more
38:17important to understand about this
38:19entire issue and that has to do with
38:22temporary internet files
38:24each and every time you view the
38:26internet whether it's on your cell phone
38:28on a desktop a laptop or any device
38:31everything you look at is logged and
38:34stored into your web history these files
38:38that are stored onto your web browser
38:40are referred to as temporary internet
38:42files
38:43now back in December of 2002 the
38:46internet was a vastly different place
38:48than it is today it was quite common to
38:51deal with pop-up advertisements from
38:53virtually every corner of the internet
38:55pop-up blockers had not yet become
38:58commonly used and despite how annoying
39:00Those ads may have been they did leave a
39:03fairly distinct Trail in your web
39:05browser so even if you didn't click on
39:08the pop-up they would still show up in
39:10your browser history so to be perfectly
39:13clear in 2002 a pop-up ad was not an
39:17indicator that you had specifically
39:19visited a website more importantly let's
39:22think about how online shopping actually
39:24works even in 2002 whenever you view a
39:28web page every time you view something
39:30or click on anything or add an item into
39:33your cart each and every page is also
39:36logged into your web history
39:38so there would be far more than just a
39:41few entries in the web history if
39:44someone had been online shopping on the
39:46Peterson's computer that morning
39:48unfortunately in 2002 internet
39:51technology wasn't well understood by the
39:53general public the way it is now and
39:56sadly the prosecution didn't understand
39:58that this alleged web history did not
40:02prove that Lacey was alive it didn't
40:05prove any of the things that the defense
40:06claimed it did however since that time
40:09it has been used in half a dozen
40:12documentaries as proof of something that
40:15never actually happened
40:17Lacey Peterson did not go online
40:20shopping that morning and it doesn't
40:22take a computer science degree to know
40:24that and this Revelation left me wanting
40:27to know one thing if they aren't trying
40:30to use this information to convince the
40:32court that a mistake was made by way of
40:34an appeal then who are they trying to
40:37convince that Scott Peterson is innocent
40:40because this is now the third time we've
40:42uncovered a bogus claim made by the
40:44series as well as those who defend
40:46Scott's innocence but I wanted to be
40:49generous because maybe they just didn't
40:51understand how computers work or how
40:54internet browser history works so let's
40:56evaluate the other Smoking Gun claims in
40:59the defense of Scott Peterson number
41:02four 11 independent Witnesses saw Lacy
41:06Peterson walking their dog Mackenzie
41:08after Scott left to go fishing that day
41:12the claim that Lacey Peterson was seen
41:14by 11 different Witnesses after Scott
41:17had already left to go fishing that day
41:20is made throughout the entire a e
41:22documentary series
41:24we are told that if Lacey had been seen
41:27by any one of those witnesses that it
41:30would mean that Scott Peterson was
41:33actually innocent and here's the thing I
41:36actually agree with that statement
41:38Scott would not have had enough time to
41:41commit the crime that he was convicted
41:43of if Lisi had been seen by any one of
41:46those people after he left the house
41:48just after 10 a.m so I had to try and
41:51understand how it was possible that so
41:54many people had seen her and how Scott
41:56was still convicted despite their many
41:59claims so once again I dove into the
42:02record reviewing the court transcripts
42:05reviewing the various reports taken by
42:07those who claim to have seen Lacey that
42:09day and what I found left me completely
42:12stunned here are the facts shortly after
42:16Lacey's disappearance a missing poster
42:18had gone out through the entire
42:20Community being shared absolutely all
42:23over Modesto this is the poster that
42:26most people saw in their community on
42:29the news and all over the Internet a
42:33short time later a reward was offered in
42:35connection to a lead that would solve
42:37her case a monetary Award of half a
42:40million dollars now on the missing
42:43poster you may notice that it says that
42:45she was wearing a white long-sleeve
42:47shirt and black pants and wouldn't you
42:50know it the many independent Witnesses
42:52claim to have seen Lacey wearing exactly
42:55that outfit long after Scott had left
42:58their house to go on a pleasant day of
43:00fishing there is just one very big
43:03problem with all of that and that's the
43:06fact that when Lacey's remains were
43:07found she was wearing beige pants not
43:10black so these alleged sightings didn't
43:13even match the clothing that she was
43:15actually wearing at the time oh and one
43:18other thing Lacey's OB GYN testified
43:21that she had already stopped walking
43:23their dog because she had an episode
43:25where she nearly fainted in the park
43:27several weeks before her yoga teacher
43:30her neighbors her friends and her mother
43:32all corroborated the fact that Lacey had
43:35stopped walking Mackenzie several weeks
43:38earlier
43:39but as I was reading through the witness
43:40statements I remembered a case that I
43:42had helped with many years back it was
43:45concerning a family law dispute between
43:47two feuding parents the mother was in
43:49the process of getting sold custody of
43:51her children from a father who had
43:53recently been arrested for kidnapping
43:55both of their children but thanks to an
43:57amber alert he had been caught
43:59attempting to flee the state but for the
44:01multiple hours that he couldn't be found
44:03the police had received several dozen
44:06tips from truckers pedestrians and other
44:09concerned citizens who swore that they
44:12had seen a man fitting his description
44:14driving the same color vehicle however
44:17despite the fact that law enforcement
44:19received nearly 40 leads from concerned
44:21citizens who believed in the validity of
44:24their sightings not one of those leads
44:27were correct her ex-husband was
44:29eventually found at his Stepmother's
44:31house and taken into custody when his
44:33stepmom contacted police to turn him in
44:36and that experience taught me that false
44:38sightings are a common occurrence that
44:41sadly happen all the time so often that
44:45it actually happened in another national
44:47case concerning The Disappearance of a
44:50two-year-old toddler in November 2008
44:52the FBI received a tip concerning a
44:55toddler that had been missing for well
44:57over three months the tipster said that
44:59she had been seen at a McDonald's 30
45:02miles outside of Nashville Tennessee the
45:05FBI rushed into action and quickly
45:07reviewed the surveillance footage but
45:09the passionate tipster who had been
45:11completely convinced that they had seen
45:13Kaylee Marie Anthony was in fact wrong
45:16each and every time any of Scott
45:19supporters discuss his case they tout
45:21these 11 witnesses as proof that Lisi
45:24was alive in fact Mark garagos the lead
45:27defense attorney proclaimed in his
45:29opening statements at Scott Peterson's
45:31jury trial that he would bring those 11
45:34Witnesses before the jury to
45:36definitively and demonstrably prove that
45:39Lacey he had been walking their dog that
45:41day long after Scott had left the area
45:44to go on his unplanned fishing trip but
45:47do you know what never happened Mark
45:49garagos never brought a single one of
45:52those Witnesses before the jury not one
45:55and he says that the reason he didn't
45:57bring any of those promised Witnesses is
45:59because he had proved that Lacey was
46:01alive that morning at 8 40 a.m but we
46:05already know that this claim wasn't true
46:07either but I couldn't help but wonder if
46:10they were so confident that Lacey was
46:12alive and believed it proves God's
46:14innocence then why in the world is in
46:17any of his appeals based on the
46:19testimony of any of these 11 Witnesses
46:22why wouldn't Scott file an appeal
46:24claiming ineffective assistance of
46:26counsel against Mark garagos for failing
46:29to bring those Witnesses in front of the
46:31jury well attorney garigo slipped up and
46:34told us why in his interviews throughout
46:37the series simply put their testimony
46:40contradicts their statements some of
46:43them claim to see Lacey in different
46:45places at different times and they all
46:47contradict each other attorney garagos
46:50chose not to use their statements for a
46:53reason because he knew that they would
46:55not help his client
46:57one thing my legal career has afforded
47:00me is an understanding of the legal
47:03process the ins and outs of how it
47:05actually works because if this argument
47:09concerning these 11 Witnesses was so
47:12compelling Scott would have filed an
47:14appeal based on them by now and that's
47:17how you know that it isn't an argument
47:20at all but here we are having uncovered
47:23the fourth time that claims from this
47:25series from supporters of Scott Peterson
47:28have failed to tell the whole truth
47:30claims that seemingly intend to
47:32intentionally mischaracterize the facts
47:35of this case but I want to tell you
47:37something about me my OCD nature now
47:40wants to know the whole truth about all
47:42of the claims they've made and I'll just
47:44tell you this I could have never guessed
47:47the totality of what I would find when I
47:49was finished reviewing the facts of this
47:52case
47:53number five Scott Peterson was honest
47:56with police from the beginning and went
47:59to Great Lengths to help their
48:00investigation throughout the a E Series
48:03as well as various other interviews that
48:05Scott Peterson's family have agreed to
48:08participate in they will say over and
48:10over how Scott was truthful and that he
48:14only ever lied a handful of times but
48:17that if he did lie he was quick to make
48:19efforts to correct those lies the
48:22examples they give seem to play Scott in
48:24a favorable light they demonstrate his
48:27efforts to be transparent and if he
48:29messed up that he was quick to fix those
48:31mistakes
48:32but as you may have guessed by now what
48:35I found was entirely different on so
48:38many different occasions Scott
48:39supporters say that Scott decided to go
48:42fishing that morning then he came home
48:44to an empty house and immediately began
48:47to notify everyone that Lacey had
48:49seemingly disappeared Into Thin Air but
48:52I'm starting to notice a pattern in the
48:54entirety of their claims because the
48:56notion that Scott decided to go fishing
48:58that morning is entirely and completely
49:01untrue in all the documentaries that
49:04I've seen implying the innocence of
49:06Scott Peterson I have never once heard
49:08them tell the whole truth about this
49:10specific claim because in actuality
49:13Scott purchased his fishing license on
49:16December 20th four entire days before he
49:20actually went fishing so it wasn't a
49:23previously unplanned trip that he
49:25decided to take that morning because the
49:27license that he previously purchased was
49:29only good for December 23rd and 24th the
49:33day he went fishing was literally the
49:36last day that he could legally fish on
49:38the marina on his new boat another lie
49:41he told was concerning what he did that
49:43day he had explained that he went
49:44fishing with the silver lure for
49:46sturgeon something that on his face
49:48seems so completely unimportant but
49:51later law enforcement determined that
49:53wasn't true either because when police
49:55searched his house in his boat they
49:57found the only lures that he had
49:59anywhere in his possession and the Box
50:01they were in were still closed and
50:03sealed from his original purchase
50:06additionally he couldn't have been
50:08fishing for sturgeon that day because
50:10they weren't in season and it was
50:11illegal to fish for them during that
50:13time but the lies didn't end there
50:16either he told police that same night
50:18that he hadn't had any issues with his
50:20marriage and we all know that wasn't
50:22true and just six hours after Lacey goes
50:26missing before anyone has any idea that
50:28she isn't coming home he asks detective
50:31brokini for details to contact Chief
50:33counselors he had no reason to believe
50:35that Lacey wasn't coming home that same
50:37night for all he knew so why in the
50:39world would he want the phone number for
50:42a grief counselor especially when you
50:44consider the fact that they are used by
50:46law enforcement to assist family
50:48whenever a loved one is found deceased
50:51and if I were to tell you the number of
50:53times that Scott Peterson was caught in
50:56a provable lie this video would be 12
50:59hours long but rest assured we will
51:02discuss some of the more important lies
51:04that he told when we get to the
51:06prosecution side of this case but I'm
51:08really hoping by now you're starting to
51:10see the issues I'm having with these
51:11claims because each one of them is
51:14easily disproven but out of morbid
51:16curiosity I wanted to see if any of his
51:19claims hold any Merit at all
51:22number six the mail carrier never heard
51:25the Peterson's dog Mackenzie which
51:27indicates that Lacey was out walking the
51:30dog this is one of the most commonly
51:32argued points anytime I have ever seen
51:35public arguments in favor of Scott's
51:37innocence it is often considered one of
51:39the smoking guns that proves that Lacey
51:42was out walking their dog well after
51:44Scott left their home to go fishing the
51:46argument is predicated on the fact that
51:48Karen's service put their dog Mackenzie
51:51in their backyard at 10 18 a.m and 20
51:53minutes later the mail carrier delivers
51:56the Peterson's mail but never hears
51:58Mackenzie bark something the dog did
52:01every time he delivered the mail Scott
52:03supporters claim that it clearly means
52:06that the dog wasn't home and therefore
52:08implies that Lacey was alive and had to
52:10have been outside walking him nearly 40
52:13minutes after Scott had already left
52:15their house and on its face it seems
52:18compelling because if Mackenzie had just
52:20been placed in the backyard by Karen
52:22service then why wasn't he barking as
52:25usual but it doesn't take a Monumental
52:27amount of effort to see the flaws in
52:29this argument I am the proud owner of
52:32this beautiful beagle and for the last
52:34several years she has barked at every
52:37single person who has ever walked by my
52:39house
52:45mail carriers doordash deliveries and
52:47anyone else who has dared to walk in
52:49front of her Hallowed Ground
52:52she barks with a passionate Fury every
52:55single day without ever taking a single
52:57day off and does so with righteous
53:00indignation
53:01until the day she didn't just a few
53:04weeks ago for no discernible reason
53:05whatsoever she could see outside clearly
53:08as our neighbor walked directly in front
53:10of our house and she simply chose not to
53:13bark that day in fact she Embark at
53:15anyone else that walked by that day
53:17either maybe she was tired or maybe she
53:20finally listened to my many attempts to
53:22train her and it finally stuck I Can
53:25Dream but do you know what the mail
53:27carrier claimed and now my story of my
53:28beagle is its anecdotal evidence and it
53:32does not prove a single thing whatsoever
53:35which is why Scott's high-priced defense
53:38attorneys have never once attempted to
53:40bring it into any one of his appeals
53:42because it's not evidence and it cannot
53:44be used as proof in any Court proceeding
53:47most especially not an appeal for a new
53:49trial but I wanted to take it a step
53:52further and actually show you why I
53:54believe that this isn't an argument that
53:56proves Lacey was alive let's think about
53:59the situation logically for just a
54:01moment and just for the sake of this
54:03analogy let's say that Scott Peterson
54:05did in fact end the life of his wife
54:07Lacey now I would imagine that even if
54:10the dog had been locked away in another
54:12room during the act that eventually
54:15Mackenzie was very much aware of what
54:17happened to Lacey and if you've ever
54:19seen a dog that has lost one of its
54:21primary owners they are deeply impacted
54:24by that loss their behavior changes so
54:27much in fact that it's not uncommon to
54:30see them laying around seemingly
54:32heartbroken and acting very different
54:34than normal because of the trauma of
54:36what they now know so it stands to
54:39reason that their dog Mackenzie would
54:41have had cause to act dramatically
54:43different than normal if Scott had ended
54:45the life of Lacey in that home and
54:48speaking of the Peterson's animals
54:50here's something I never heard anyone
54:51speak about in terms of his case
54:54on the night of Lacey's initial
54:55disappearance Scott told police that
54:57when he got home he opened the back door
54:59and let the dog and cat inside and then
55:02he said something that most people
55:03didn't seem to realize the importance of
55:05but I noticed it from the moment it left
55:08his mouth since I was a young child my
55:10parents have always owned cats but they
55:13were always outdoor cats and there is a
55:15massive difference between cats that
55:16live outdoors and cats that live indoors
55:18but every now and then whenever my mom
55:21would prepare a turkey or be cooking
55:23with the whole chicken I would take some
55:25of those scraps and give them to the
55:26outdoor cats and let me tell you those
55:29cats would come running from blocks away
55:31at the mere scent of blood why because
55:34cats are carnivores and it doesn't
55:36matter what kind of blood it is they'll
55:39come running and when you consider how
55:41much cats hate water the fact that his
55:43cat would come running over to the
55:45bucket is nothing short of reasonable
55:47suspicion now is it evidence that could
55:50have been used in court no but do you
55:53now see how any total evidence can be
55:55used to convey whatever narrative you
55:57want to push people towards but just in
56:00case it isn't clear this argument about
56:02the mail carrier isn't one but here we
56:05are six claims into their proof of his
56:07innocence and not one of them holds to
56:10any measure of scrutiny but I will
56:12commit to this if we can find that even
56:15one of the arguments in support of his
56:17innocence has any Merit I will gladly
56:20admit that Reasonable Doubt existed in
56:22his case
56:23so let's continue
56:25number seven Scott Peterson was aloof
56:28but no one can know how they would react
56:30in that same situation and his behavior
56:34was not proof of criminality I think
56:37everybody sitting at home wants the
56:38answer to the same question did you
56:40murder your wife no no no I just thought
56:44and I had absolutely nothing to do with
56:47her disappearance and and use the word
56:49murder and yeah I mean that is
56:54a possibility
56:57um it's not one we're ready to accept
56:59and it creeps in my mind late at night
57:02and early in the morning
57:04there was a poignant moment in the a e
57:06docu-series where attorney Mark garagos
57:09exclaims that in his entire career he
57:12has learned that observing the way
57:14someone acts is not a reliable marker
57:17for determining guilt and surprisingly I
57:20actually agree with him
57:22to an extent
57:23guilt or innocence should never be
57:26formed solely based on how a suspect
57:28reacts to a crime doing so can result in
57:31false confessions or incorrect
57:34assumptions that can have a profoundly
57:36negative effect on an ongoing
57:38investigation
57:40but as much as we may want for
57:42criminality to be solely determined
57:44based on scientific based forensics the
57:47reality of solving crimes often does
57:49involve observations that are centered
57:51around intuition experience and common
57:54sense as well as observing the evidence
57:57as a whole it is true that not everyone
58:01reacts the same way to trauma and that
58:03some people did not express grief in the
58:06same way but there was a segment of this
58:09documentary that left me questioning the
58:11intent of this series as a whole
58:13Maureen orth works for Vanity Fair and
58:16is one of the pundits seen throughout
58:18the series and she begins to chastise
58:20the American public's way of handling
58:22grief whenever these kinds of cases are
58:25picked up by the 24-hour news cycle
58:27one of the things that was interesting
58:30to me as a journalist was what matters
58:34are people's feelings and how terrible
58:36they feel and if they cry it's so much
58:39better
58:40it's really just having a national
58:43pageant of grief in which everybody can
58:46participate and stare at all the grief
58:49and the tears and speculate about all
58:52the salacious details
58:54now we can all agree that the media
58:56today has departed from the previous
58:58models of Journalism embodied by the
59:01greats who are purely interested in
59:03reporting the news men and women who
59:06went to Great Lengths to remain
59:08objective and simply report the news
59:10free of their own personal and
59:13subjective opinions and we can also
59:16agree that the media tends to only focus
59:18on missing people who fit a certain
59:21profile but that doesn't change the fact
59:23that something tragic did happen in the
59:26matter of Lacey Peterson and the
59:28arguments against the Public's reaction
59:30to Lacey's initial disappearance misses
59:33the incredible importance of empathy
59:36when you really analyze Marine's
59:38statement it comes across as one of the
59:40most overt displays of gaslighting I
59:43have seen in any recent documentary
59:45because I've listened to countless
59:48interviews by people who volunteered to
59:50help search for Lacey and it would be
59:52fair to say that a vast major majority
59:54of the people who took interest in this
59:56case were fueled by their empathy for
59:59Lacey for Connor and for the Rocha
1:00:02family and believe it or not even for
1:00:05Scott the public took interest in this
1:00:07case because we could all agree that the
1:00:10loss of her life was a pain that no
1:00:12family should ever endure it wasn't just
1:00:15some pageant of grief people coalesced
1:00:18around this case because in some way we
1:00:20could all see ourselves in it we could
1:00:23see our own daughters sisters and
1:00:25mothers and we could all agree that it
1:00:27was something that should never happen
1:00:30to anyone and when people claim that the
1:00:33Public's response was somehow an
1:00:35overreaction it completely takes away
1:00:37everything we've learned about Scott
1:00:40after Lacey's disappearance Scott
1:00:42Peterson wasn't merely aloof smiling at
1:00:46wildly inappropriate moments because his
1:00:48actions speak louder than anything he
1:00:51has to say he lacked empathy for someone
1:00:55he claimed to love and routinely failed
1:00:57to show any sign that he actually cared
1:01:00about Lacey being gone within a few
1:01:03weeks of Lacey's disappearance he
1:01:05contacted a real estate agent to put
1:01:07their house on the market long before
1:01:09anyone knew that she was deceased he was
1:01:12already selling their home with
1:01:14everything in it furnished with all of
1:01:17Lacey's Furniture additionally Scott
1:01:20ordered hardcore adult content that was
1:01:23only viewable in their living room just
1:01:25days after she went missing really think
1:01:28about that for a second he orders an
1:01:31extremely explicit adult television
1:01:33channel to his living room TV while
1:01:36still expecting his nearly full-term
1:01:39pregnant wife to come home and oh don't
1:01:42forget the fact that he canceled those
1:01:43channels on the same day that police
1:01:46executed a search warrant at his house
1:01:48but wait there's more within a few weeks
1:01:52of her disappearance he sold her car why
1:01:55would someone who was looking for his
1:01:56wife who claims over and over that she
1:01:58will come home safe and sound why would
1:02:01he sell her only form of transportation
1:02:04and it doesn't stop there either he then
1:02:07spent months refusing to give her
1:02:09parents any of her childhood keepsakes
1:02:11and then once Lacey and Connor were
1:02:13found he wouldn't give police her dental
1:02:16information so that they could verify it
1:02:18was her through her dental records
1:02:20instead he told police that he couldn't
1:02:23remember who her dentist was despite the
1:02:25fact that they went to the same dentist
1:02:28oh and let's not forget the fact that he
1:02:31was having an affair with Amber Frye
1:02:33Fray fry we'll call her fry but for the
1:02:37record phonetically it's Fray but I
1:02:38digress but while Scott was having an
1:02:41affair with Amber he also made plans to
1:02:43raise her daughter with her even gifting
1:02:46her a book to Amber's daughter that had
1:02:48originally been gifted to Lacey at her
1:02:51baby shower really stop for a second and
1:02:54listen to what I just said Scott and
1:02:56Lacey Peterson had been gifted a book
1:02:58for their son Connor at Lacey's baby
1:03:01shower and during a time when Lacey was
1:03:04missing and still believed to be alive
1:03:06he gives that book for his unborn son to
1:03:11his mistress's daughter if he believed
1:03:14Lacey was ever coming home why in the
1:03:17world would he have done that and don't
1:03:19forget that he never participated in a
1:03:21single public event to find Lacey he was
1:03:24routinely seen taking down pictures that
1:03:27featured both him and Lacey and them at
1:03:29the volunteer Center and anytime the
1:03:31media showed up he would make sure that
1:03:34no pictures of him were taken slipping
1:03:36out the back door before anyone could
1:03:38speak with him so often in missing
1:03:41person cases people that have a missing
1:03:44loved one cannot buy media attention and
1:03:47have to resort to begging for anyone to
1:03:49help them to find their loved one those
1:03:52people would do absolutely anything to
1:03:55have the kind of media attention that
1:03:57Scott Peterson had to try and locate
1:03:59Lacey and there he is with the media at
1:04:02beating his door down trying to help him
1:04:05and he wants nothing to do with any of
1:04:08it but for me one of the most compelling
1:04:11and outright damning elements of Scott
1:04:13Peterson's Behavior happened after he
1:04:16was convicted for their homicide despite
1:04:18his conviction he would go on to sue the
1:04:21family of Lacey Peterson because he
1:04:23believed he was owed the 250 thousand
1:04:26dollars they received from her life
1:04:29insurance policy and even when the Court
1:04:32ruled against him deciding that the
1:04:34money should go to lisi's family he
1:04:36didn't leave it there he appealed the
1:04:38ruling and continued to fight them for
1:04:41the money he would eventually lose the
1:04:43appeal but not after forcing Lacey's
1:04:46family to defend themselves in court
1:04:48Shilling out tens of thousands of
1:04:51dollars in legal expenses fighting the
1:04:53man who was convicted of their
1:04:55daughter's homicide
1:04:57and here's the thing I haven't even
1:04:59begun to scratch the surface of the
1:05:02innumerable times where Scott Peterson
1:05:04failed to show any sign of concern or
1:05:07empathy for his missing wife so the next
1:05:10time a member of Scott's family or one
1:05:13of his supporters says that you can't
1:05:15know how you would react here's what I
1:05:17do know I wouldn't act like Scott
1:05:20Peterson did because while his behavior
1:05:23is an indisputable proof of guilt it
1:05:26does give us clear insight into a man
1:05:28who seemed to be largely unconcerned
1:05:31about the whereabouts of his pregnant
1:05:33wife Lacey
1:05:35number eight Scott Peterson was seen by
1:05:39several people at the Berkeley Marina
1:05:41and people who saw him that day did not
1:05:44see a body inside his boat additionally
1:05:47his boat was too small and Lacey would
1:05:50have been too heavy to push into the
1:05:52harbor without capsizing the boat
1:05:55initially before I did any research on
1:05:57this case this was one of the few
1:05:59arguments that I was most concerned
1:06:01about because on the surface it would
1:06:03seem to be a compelling argument but as
1:06:06I scoured the internet I came across the
1:06:09crime Piper blog the blog is run by some
1:06:12of the most knowledgeable and
1:06:13intelligent people on the topic of Scott
1:06:16Peterson and what they extrapolated from
1:06:18the court record leaves no doubt to the
1:06:21validity of this claim they helped fill
1:06:24in the blanks when I sought to
1:06:25understand whether or not this claim was
1:06:28in fact a problem for those who firmly
1:06:30believed in Scott Peterson's guilt so
1:06:33here are the facts the following is a
1:06:35picture sure of Scott Peterson's boat
1:06:37taken from a court exhibit and as you
1:06:39can see a woman who was roughly the same
1:06:41size as Lacey Peterson was able to get
1:06:44into the bottom of Scott's boat and
1:06:46remain unseen even at a fairly high
1:06:49angle in the trial of Scott Peterson it
1:06:52was revealed that he had tarps on top of
1:06:55his boat at the time that he was hauling
1:06:57it to the marina so there is no reason
1:06:59to think that anyone looking inside his
1:07:01boat would have seen anything other than
1:07:04a tarp Also let's really think logically
1:07:07about the situation for a moment if you
1:07:09had been at the Berkeley Marina that day
1:07:11there's no reason to look at Scott
1:07:14Peterson then look inside his boat to
1:07:17see if there's anything incriminating
1:07:18inside of it he was a well-groomed young
1:07:21man who many have described as being
1:07:24handsome and easy on the eyes so why
1:07:26would anyone be looking in his boat to
1:07:29ascertain if there was anything inside
1:07:31of it that could implicate him in a
1:07:33crime before Lacey was even reported
1:07:36missing that is completely absurd and it
1:07:39assumes that people who saw him that day
1:07:41could have had any idea what they were
1:07:44even looking at even if they had looked
1:07:47inside his boat furthermore do you know
1:07:49what else I found in researching his
1:07:51case that when Scott Peterson went
1:07:53looking to buy a boat despite the fact
1:07:55that money was tight and they did not
1:07:57have any extra money to waste on a new
1:07:59boat that Scott took out most of their
1:08:02savings to buy that boat for fourteen
1:08:04hundred dollars I also learned that
1:08:07Scott was very specifically looking for
1:08:09a boat that had a depth finder on it and
1:08:11in case you don't know what that is it's
1:08:13a device that uses ultrasonic waves to
1:08:16determine the depth of fish below you so
1:08:18the deeper the fish the further down the
1:08:20bottom of the lake is or in this case
1:08:23the ocean Scott even looked at larger
1:08:25boats but chose not to buy them because
1:08:27they lacked the depth finder that he
1:08:30wanted and the argument that he would
1:08:32have capsized his boat trying to remove
1:08:34the remains of Lacey is total nonsense
1:08:37Scott told police that very first night
1:08:40that he was out sturgeon fishing that
1:08:42day well I might not be a professional
1:08:44angler but I do know a thing or two
1:08:46about fishing and one thing I know is
1:08:48certainty is that sturgeon are massive
1:08:51fish they can get to be well over 500
1:08:54pounds and the average sturgeon is no
1:08:57less than 50 pounds I've been on the
1:08:59same kind of boat that Scott was on with
1:09:01several large men all at the same time
1:09:04while fishing and somehow me and tens of
1:09:07thousands of others who go out on boats
1:09:09every day of the week somehow find a way
1:09:12to keep from capsizing in the series
1:09:14attorney garigo shows this video that he
1:09:17failed to get entered into evidence as
1:09:19you can see the man in it struggles to
1:09:22simulate the alleged actions of Scott
1:09:24Peterson and eventually falls into the
1:09:26water but this video was ruled to be
1:09:29inadmissible because it shows the man in
1:09:31the video with his foot on the side of
1:09:33the boat seemingly intentionally trying
1:09:36to end up in the water something that an
1:09:38angler would never do and again all we
1:09:42need to do is think logically about this
1:09:44situation no one in their right mind
1:09:46wants to end up in the San Francisco Bay
1:09:49in the middle of December it has claimed
1:09:52countless lives because of how
1:09:54notoriously cold those waters are simply
1:09:56put Scott Peterson had reason to stay
1:09:59out of the water that day and nothing
1:10:02about this argument is compelling and
1:10:04it's why the jury ultimately disregarded
1:10:07it because like so many of the previous
1:10:09points this is not proof it's anecdotal
1:10:12evidence that wouldn't pass a
1:10:15MythBusters test let alone be seen as
1:10:17primary evidence in a jury trial and
1:10:21here we are having reviewed most of the
1:10:23primary arguments in support of his
1:10:25innocence and I'll be honest by this
1:10:27point in my research I started to get
1:10:30really frustrated because so many of
1:10:32these claims have been portrayed as
1:10:34proof without any further scrutiny and I
1:10:37wanted to understand why but before I
1:10:40could answer that question I had to know
1:10:42was there any evidence that actually
1:10:45pointed towards the innocence of Scott
1:10:47Peterson
1:10:48number nine Scott Peterson was falsely
1:10:51accused of making multiple anchors
1:10:53despite evidence that proved that he
1:10:55disposed of the excess concrete on the
1:10:58side of his house to fill a hole in the
1:11:01a e docu-series they use this argument
1:11:03as one of the many that seems to show
1:11:06that police jumped to false conclusions
1:11:08and the frenzied media had incorrectly
1:11:11judged Scott Peterson throughout the
1:11:13series Nancy Grace plays the role of the
1:11:16antagonistic villain often shown as one
1:11:19of the lone voices in opposition to his
1:11:21innocence they go on to show a moment in
1:11:24the series that is seemingly meant to
1:11:26demonstrate her incorrect bias and that
1:11:29even when she was shown evidence that
1:11:31disproved her theories that she refused
1:11:33to acknowledge her mistake and there
1:11:36someone had very clearly poured a bunch
1:11:39of cement powder I called Nancy Grace
1:11:42over and I said look there's the cement
1:11:44she says huh
1:11:46walked away never mentioned it on the
1:11:49show never went back on the air and said
1:11:51oh you know that whole thing I said
1:11:53about uh he was lying about the concrete
1:11:55turns out I was wrong he really did that
1:11:58didn't happen this series isn't just
1:12:00been an attempt to exonerate Scott
1:12:02Peterson it seemingly also seeks to
1:12:04firmly place the idea that the media is
1:12:07fully overrun by biased pundits and
1:12:10reporters and that Nancy Grace is one of
1:12:13the worst among them they even go so far
1:12:16as to show her backstory that included
1:12:19her telling of how she lost her former
1:12:21partner due to a homicide and that her
1:12:23overzealous opinions seem to be fueled
1:12:26by her blind rage to go after anyone she
1:12:29deems a criminal once again I couldn't
1:12:32help but notice how if all you had seen
1:12:35is this series you would likely walk
1:12:37away thinking that Nancy Grace and the
1:12:39media were all Bad actors who only cared
1:12:42for Ratings clicks and money especially
1:12:46after what see appears to be fairly
1:12:48damning evidence that not only exposes
1:12:51the media but piggybacks on the recent
1:12:53wave of disdain for Nancy Grace by the
1:12:55general public Scott Peterson had
1:12:58purchased 90 pounds of concrete prior to
1:13:00his day of non-fishing for sturgeon on
1:13:03the Berkeley Marina but allow me to
1:13:05repeat that one more time 90 pounds of
1:13:08concrete now Scott claimed that he made
1:13:11only one single eight pound anchor from
1:13:14that 90 pound bag no I have to admit I'm
1:13:17not a mathematician but I'm pretty sure
1:13:19my calculations are correct and that if
1:13:22Scott made an eight-pound anchor that
1:13:24would leave carry the two 82 pounds of
1:13:27drag concrete But the A E series shows
1:13:30this picture
1:13:31this picture as being proof that Scott
1:13:35had in fact gotten rid of the rest of
1:13:37the concrete on the side of his house
1:13:38but I have a question does that look
1:13:42like 82 pounds of concrete to you
1:13:44because I'm going to go ahead and go out
1:13:47on a limb and make a fairly bold
1:13:49statement despite the fact that I don't
1:13:51have a degree in Structural Engineering
1:13:53but I mean I did minor in the obvious
1:13:56and say that that is absolutely not 82
1:14:00pounds of concrete on the side of Scott
1:14:02Peterson's house and of course the
1:14:04series very conveniently forgets to
1:14:06mention that Scott told multiple stories
1:14:09about how he used or got rid of the
1:14:11concrete initially he told law
1:14:13enforcement that he threw the concrete
1:14:15away and then he said he didn't know
1:14:16what he did with it finally landing on
1:14:19dumping the dry concrete into a hole on
1:14:21the side of his house the series also
1:14:24forgets to mention that law enforcement
1:14:26found evidence of concrete inside of
1:14:28Scott's boat and his truck the kind of
1:14:31Congo great debris that you would expect
1:14:33to find if someone had made multiple
1:14:35anchors and then placed them in their
1:14:37truck and then in Scott's boat
1:14:39throughout this series I noticed a
1:14:41reoccurring theme as though they wanted
1:14:44to ride the wave of the recent media
1:14:46distrust placing the idea firmly in the
1:14:49minds of us the viewers that maybe we
1:14:52are the victims of an intentional
1:14:54campaign to manipulate Us by the media
1:14:57into seeing something in Scott that
1:14:59wasn't there because if the media was
1:15:01willing to lie to us about all these
1:15:03various aspects of the world around us
1:15:06it's not a stretch to think that they
1:15:07had misrepresented the truth concerning
1:15:10Scott as well but towards the end of my
1:15:13research what I found in the next
1:15:15segment changed the way that I saw the
1:15:17Scott Peterson case for good
1:15:20number 10. Scott Peterson's affair with
1:15:23Amber Frye caused the general public to
1:15:25wrongly jump to conclusions concerning
1:15:28his guilt from the very beginning of my
1:15:30review of this case I knew that if there
1:15:32was any claim that seemed to hold the
1:15:34most considerable way it was the
1:15:36assertion that Scott Peterson was
1:15:38largely viewed as guilty once it was
1:15:40revealed that he was having an affair
1:15:42with Amber Frye it made sense to me that
1:15:45the general public had made assumptions
1:15:46about his guilt once she was brought to
1:15:49the Forefront and my goal was to try to
1:15:51determine if his affair had wrongly
1:15:53contributed to his conviction in the a E
1:15:56Series as well as others that have been
1:15:58created in the last six years attorney
1:16:00Mark garagos has played an important
1:16:02role in helping to lay the foundation
1:16:04for the claims of Peterson's innocence
1:16:06and regardless of what anyone may think
1:16:08of him he is a masterful criminal
1:16:10defense attorney and he best
1:16:12demonstrates that skill with what he
1:16:14says in this next segment see a
1:16:17scoundrel was he a cad yes I get that
1:16:19but but if you're going to put into
1:16:21prison every married man who has an
1:16:24affair while their wife is eight or nine
1:16:26months pregnant
1:16:28now just for a moment I want to
1:16:30deconstruct what he just said because he
1:16:32takes something that we all know is
1:16:34unacceptable a married man with a
1:16:36pregnant wife having an affair and he
1:16:39places it against the backdrop of prison
1:16:42because surely we can all agree that
1:16:44adultery is immoral and we can also all
1:16:47agree that we can't just send every man
1:16:49who has an affair to prison because in
1:16:52that case there would have to be a lot
1:16:54more prisons built and only the most
1:16:56unreasonable person could possibly think
1:16:58something that extreme he essentially
1:17:01forces The Listener to agree with him
1:17:03and it's one of the many reasons why I
1:17:05have such a problem with this kind of
1:17:07non-argument because no one has ever
1:17:10said that Scott Peterson should go to
1:17:12prison because he had an affair that's
1:17:15not even remotely at issue in this case
1:17:17and attorney garagos knows that but he
1:17:20reframes the discussion in a way that
1:17:22forces even the most Ardent Defenders of
1:17:24Scott's guilt to have to agree with his
1:17:26statement it comes off as this
1:17:28Christopher nolan-esque form of
1:17:31inception because it plants the idea
1:17:33that Scott only had an affair and that
1:17:35was the motivating reason for why he was
1:17:38ultimately convicted simply because the
1:17:41American public was angry at him for
1:17:43cheating on his pregnant wife but Scott
1:17:46Peterson wasn't charged with adultery he
1:17:48was charged with the homicide of Lacey
1:17:51and Connor Peterson but allow me to
1:17:53share with you the most compelling
1:17:55evidence that I uncovered in my
1:17:57investigation specific to this issue of
1:18:00Scott Peterson's Affair I took the time
1:18:03to listen to All of the various audio
1:18:05recordings of Scott in Amber's
1:18:07conversations additionally taking the
1:18:09time to study the whole backstory of
1:18:12their relationship and I believe that
1:18:14it's a story that you need to hear in
1:18:16order to understand how critically
1:18:18important it is Amber Frye was
1:18:22introduced to Scott Peterson by a mutual
1:18:24friend Sean Sibley who had just met
1:18:26Peterson at a work conference in early
1:18:28November of 2002 a short time later
1:18:31Scott asked Sean if she had any single
1:18:33friends and eventually she gave Amber's
1:18:36information to Scott so that they could
1:18:37meet up both Sean and Amber believed
1:18:40that Scott was a single man because
1:18:42that's what he had told them Amber's
1:18:45first date was Scott was an all-night
1:18:46Affair that went until the following
1:18:48morning and had gone exceedingly well
1:18:50soon after things began to progress very
1:18:53quickly with Scott who met her for
1:18:55multiple weekend long dates including
1:18:58picking up her 18 month old daughter
1:18:59from daycare picking out a Christmas
1:19:01tree for her discussing plans to meet
1:19:04her parents and ultimately to get
1:19:06married and from the beginning Scott was
1:19:09adamant with Amber that he did not want
1:19:11children something he had even said
1:19:13previously to his wife Lacey years
1:19:16before and these Infamous pictures taken
1:19:19of Scott and Amber at her Christmas
1:19:21party happened on the same night that
1:19:23Lacey was forced to go alone to her
1:19:26Christmas party because Scott had told
1:19:28her that he was meeting with his boss
1:19:30who had just flown in from Europe
1:19:32unexpectedly but of course in actuality
1:19:35he spent the night with Amber at her
1:19:37boss's company party leaving his nearly
1:19:39full-term pregnant wife by herself
1:19:42but what happened on December 8 2002
1:19:45changed the way that I saw this case
1:19:47forever Amber's friend Sean had heard
1:19:50from an acquaintance that Scott Peterson
1:19:52was actually married so she called Scott
1:19:55and angrily confronted him she told
1:19:57Scott that she was going to call Amber
1:19:59and tell her the truth about him but
1:20:01Scott pleaded begged with her not to do
1:20:04that instead he negotiated that he would
1:20:07call Amber and tell her the truth
1:20:09himself and sure enough Scott Peterson
1:20:11calls Amber and tells her that he has
1:20:13something very important that he needs
1:20:15to talk to her about and the following
1:20:17day he comes to her house and he was
1:20:19nearly inconsolable Amber recounts the
1:20:22story by saying that he was hysterically
1:20:24crying talking about how he hadn't told
1:20:27her the whole truth that in fact he had
1:20:29been married but that he had lost his
1:20:31wife and that this would be the first
1:20:33Christmas without her weeks before Lacey
1:20:36Peterson would actually go missing Scott
1:20:39was claiming that she was already gone
1:20:42and that's the story that most of us
1:20:44familiar with this case have already
1:20:47heard but were you aware that on the
1:20:49same day that Amber's friend Sean had
1:20:52called Scott demanding that he tell
1:20:53Amber the truth that his computer logged
1:20:56something rather curious the very same
1:20:59day that Sean called Scott to confront
1:21:01him threatening to end his relationship
1:21:03with his new girlfriend Scott Peterson
1:21:06searches the weather conditions at the
1:21:08Berkeley Marina
1:21:10specifically the title patterns in the
1:21:13harbor where Lacey and Connor were
1:21:15eventually found when I read that for
1:21:18the first time I stopped what I was
1:21:19doing and tried to find any reasonable
1:21:22explanation for why Scott would do that
1:21:25and then it just became obvious
1:21:27Scott was being threatened with losing
1:21:29Amber if he doesn't tell her the truth
1:21:31about being married and that same day he
1:21:34starts looking at the title patterns for
1:21:36the exact same area where Lacey and
1:21:39cotter would be found If This Were A
1:21:41Hollywood movie it would get horrendous
1:21:43critic reviews for being entirely too
1:21:46predictable because this is the literal
1:21:48age-old definition of motive in just
1:21:52hours after the confrontation was shown
1:21:54he goes to Amber Fry's house and puts on
1:21:57an act where he is able to excessively
1:21:59cry on command saying that he lost his
1:22:02wife a wife who is still very much alive
1:22:05and I've thought a lot about this part
1:22:07of his case the fact that Scott is able
1:22:10to manipulate and lie to Amber virtually
1:22:12on command but more specifically the
1:22:14issue of how upset he was and how he was
1:22:17unable to stop crying as he makes a
1:22:20wildly false declaration in numerous
1:22:23interviews Amber discusses how
1:22:25inconsolable he was but the ability to
1:22:27manufacture emotion over something that
1:22:30wasn't even true is precisely why his
1:22:33affair was so problematic not because of
1:22:36the salacious details but because of
1:22:38what it said about Scott's character but
1:22:41in all of the various docu-series that
1:22:43have been made defending Scott they all
1:22:45portrayed this affair as being nothing
1:22:47more than tabloid gossip that
1:22:49incorrectly prejudiced the world against
1:22:51Scott but that simply isn't true the
1:22:55problem that the world had with Scott
1:22:56was his actions or the lack thereof and
1:23:00how those actions directly correlated to
1:23:03a man's behavior who continually
1:23:05demonstrated a lack of empathy for any
1:23:08of the people he claimed to love but
1:23:11there are dozens of hours of
1:23:12conversations between Amber and Scott
1:23:14that completely contradict that claim
1:23:17but after watching all six episodes of
1:23:20the a E Series I noticed that it was
1:23:22filled to the brim with these kinds of
1:23:24ridiculous arguments everything that
1:23:27points to Scott's guilt is somehow
1:23:29incorrect or a rush to judgment
1:23:31propagated by the media and every
1:23:34possible thing that could even remotely
1:23:35make Scott look favorable is used as
1:23:38evidence that he is in fact innocent
1:23:40apparently we are expected to ignore all
1:23:43of the things that point to his guilt
1:23:45and only pay attention or give Credence
1:23:48to the things that demonstrates his
1:23:50innocence but they can't have it both
1:23:52ways especially when the evidence
1:23:54consistently and continually disproves
1:23:57every aspect of their claims and here we
1:24:00are well over an hour into this video
1:24:03and I haven't even started telling you
1:24:05any of the prosecutions case yet but if
1:24:08you're still unconvinced in either
1:24:10direction don't worry because I'm not
1:24:12even close to being done yet number 11
1:24:15police fail to follow up on credible
1:24:18leads or investigate the strikingly
1:24:20similar case of Evelyn Hernandez
1:24:24in the a E Series former defense
1:24:26attorney Matt Dalton gives one of the
1:24:28most impassioned arguments in favor of
1:24:30Scott's innocence he tells us about a
1:24:32similar crime that was committed just a
1:24:34few months before The Disappearance of
1:24:36Lacey a young pregnant woman named
1:24:38Evelyn Hernandez was eventually found
1:24:41deceased on the shores of the San
1:24:42Francisco Bay area in close proximity to
1:24:45where Lacey and Connor would later be
1:24:47found and Evelyn's remains would be
1:24:50found in a very similar condition as
1:24:52that of Lacey's and this information
1:24:55leaves the implication that someone in
1:24:57this same area could have been
1:24:59responsible for the death of Lacey and
1:25:01that police failed to properly
1:25:03investigate a crime that had many of the
1:25:05same Hallmarks of criminality attorney
1:25:08Dalton makes the claim and we are left
1:25:10with the inference that so many aspects
1:25:12of this case weren't properly explored
1:25:15that maybe someone else had something to
1:25:17do with Lacey's crime because we find
1:25:19out that Evelyn's homicide is still a
1:25:21cold case and that it has never ever
1:25:24been solved and if you lived on an
1:25:26island where only the a e channel was
1:25:29available then it would be entirely
1:25:31understandable why you could see this
1:25:33segment and feel that it was compelling
1:25:35in fact when attorney Dalton begins to
1:25:38explain the similarity of Evelyn's case
1:25:40to Lacy's it's one of those moments that
1:25:42leaves you thinking wow someone else may
1:25:45have committed this crime I remember the
1:25:48first time I saw that segment thinking
1:25:50exactly that and being shocked that I
1:25:53hadn't heard anything about this case
1:25:55until over a decade after Scott's
1:25:57conviction and I contend that is why a
1:26:00vast majority of people who believe that
1:26:02Scott may be innocent believe it because
1:26:05they only hear surface level information
1:26:07provided to them by the series and never
1:26:10really go beyond that but I did in
1:26:13reading the news articles about Evelyn
1:26:15Hernandez I sat there shaking my head in
1:26:18complete disbelief Evelyn Hernandez was
1:26:21the Mistress of Hermann Aguilera a
1:26:24married man just like Scott Peterson in
1:26:27the investigation police determined that
1:26:29Evelyn had recently broken up with
1:26:31Hermann Aguilera and that she was
1:26:33pregnant with his baby a baby that he
1:26:36would have been financially responsible
1:26:37for while being married to a different
1:26:40woman entirely it's been reported that
1:26:43he wanted to maintain control over
1:26:45Evelyn's life that he wanted to keep
1:26:48access to her home and ultimately it was
1:26:51believed that he wasn't happy about her
1:26:53choice to end the relationship and the
1:26:56tragic part of her case is no one seemed
1:26:58to care that she went missing she didn't
1:27:00get the same news coverage and sadly it
1:27:03wasn't just her and her unborn child
1:27:04that lost their lives she had a son who
1:27:07has never been found since her initial
1:27:10disappearance sadly Evelyn's case was
1:27:13never solved and she deserves justice
1:27:16but she does not deserve to be used as a
1:27:18pawn to try and infer her guilt on
1:27:21someone other than Scott Peterson and
1:27:24after reviewing the entire case file
1:27:26that I could get my hands on I saw
1:27:28considerable evidence that supports that
1:27:30law enforcement did run down hundreds of
1:27:33thousands of leads and that they
1:27:35investigated everyone close to Lacey as
1:27:38well as people in the neighborhood and
1:27:39that they clearly determined that no one
1:27:42else had reason motive and opportunity
1:27:45to harm Lacey Peterson and that's
1:27:48precisely why Scott Peterson paid
1:27:50attorney Mark garagos 1 million dollars
1:27:53to defend his life in a jury trial
1:27:55because the evidence that supported his
1:27:57motive and opportunity was compelling
1:28:00and this series doesn't seem to want to
1:28:03address the fact that attorney garagos
1:28:04failed to provide any reasonable suspect
1:28:07to the jury other than his client that
1:28:10could have had motive and opportunity to
1:28:12harm Lacey Peterson and after going
1:28:15through each of these claims one by one
1:28:17reviewing all of their key arguments
1:28:20without having found any compelling
1:28:22evidence pointing to his innocence I
1:28:24purposefully saved their biggest
1:28:25argument for last and it is one of the
1:28:29most ominous claims that the Defenders
1:28:31of Scott Peterson have made from the
1:28:34very beginning
1:28:36number 12 despite the total lack of
1:28:39forensic and biological evidence the
1:28:42media still tried and convicted Scott
1:28:45Peterson this is the single most
1:28:47explosive claim made throughout every
1:28:50iteration of any docu-series made in
1:28:53favor of Scott's innocence it is
1:28:55repeated time and time again at
1:28:58virtually every opportunity and by the
1:29:00time you've watched every episode of the
1:29:02series it seems that they have made a
1:29:04compelling case that Scott Peterson was
1:29:06found guilty by virtue of the negative
1:29:09media attention long before he ever set
1:29:12foot in court over and over we are told
1:29:15that no forensic or biological evidence
1:29:17has ever existed in this case and again
1:29:20we are faced with arguments that seem
1:29:23truly persuasive and convincing and for
1:29:25me it preys on my inherent desire to be
1:29:29empathetic to all people because it
1:29:31presents the idea that maybe members of
1:29:34the public did jump to conclusions and
1:29:36that maybe there isn't evidence Beyond a
1:29:39man who was morally bankrupt but who
1:29:41didn't actually commit these unspeakable
1:29:43acts we are bombarded with the idea that
1:29:46we need to question what we believe
1:29:48which is actually an important part of
1:29:50being a human to never be unwilling to
1:29:53analyze our positions to be able to
1:29:56admit when we are wrong which are all
1:29:58inherently good things and in various
1:30:01moments of the series I was willing to
1:30:03admit that I was wrong and that I had
1:30:06seen proof of Scott's unfair conviction
1:30:07by the media and that there may have
1:30:10been Reasonable Doubt in his case that
1:30:13was until attorney Chris Pixley said
1:30:15these words
1:30:16piece of Lacey's hair on a pair of
1:30:19pliers that were rusted shut and I would
1:30:21hope that his wife's hair is at his
1:30:22workplace I would hope that he had his
1:30:24wife hair on some of his clothes now if
1:30:26it isn't clear by now I am completely
1:30:29disgusted with this series and all
1:30:31others like it because every single time
1:30:33I look at any of their claims under a
1:30:36microscope I find that they have either
1:30:37left things out misconstrued the facts
1:30:40or seem to be intentionally
1:30:42misrepresenting details that are always
1:30:44slanted towards defending Scott Peterson
1:30:46no matter how bad the facts look someone
1:30:49from his defense team always seems to
1:30:52have an excuse and let me explain why I
1:30:55feel the way that I do about this issue
1:30:57specifically because those pliers were
1:31:00found inside of Scott Peterson's boat
1:31:03the same boat that is believed to have
1:31:05carried the remains of Lacey Peterson
1:31:07and the hair isn't on the pliers it's in
1:31:11those closed pliers a very important
1:31:14distinction and he also claims that they
1:31:17are rusted shut now I've owned a lot of
1:31:19pliers in my day and those are clearly
1:31:22not rusted shut and do you know what's
1:31:24comical about all of this didn't they
1:31:27say over and over that there was no
1:31:29forensic or biological evidence found in
1:31:32the Scott Peterson case
1:31:34well then I have a question what is hair
1:31:36didn't they find that the hair in those
1:31:39pliers came from a human body and then
1:31:42doesn't that hair need to be tested to
1:31:44verify its origin and what's that
1:31:46process called whenever they send
1:31:48something involved in a crime for
1:31:50testing oh right forensics so literally
1:31:54every single time that we've been told
1:31:56that there's no forensic or biological
1:31:58evidence ever found in this case it is a
1:32:01complete and total fabrication there was
1:32:03no biological evidence no forensic
1:32:06evidence whatsoever furthermore law
1:32:08enforcement found Scott Peterson's fresh
1:32:11blood on their bed and I'm pretty sure
1:32:14don't quote me but I'm pretty sure Blood
1:32:16also counts as forensic evidence and all
1:32:20of this information was presented at the
1:32:22trial of Scott Peterson to the jury now
1:32:26over the years many of Scott Peterson's
1:32:28Defenders have talked about the hair
1:32:30having mitochondrial DNA that was linked
1:32:33to Sharon the mother of Lacey Peterson
1:32:36but you'll probably notice that attorney
1:32:39Chris Pixley a man who is in every Scott
1:32:41Peterson documentary vehemently
1:32:43defending him doesn't even make that
1:32:46distinction because it's accepted that
1:32:48it was Lacey's hair so one of the most
1:32:51commonly repeated phrases in defense of
1:32:53Scott Peterson is patently untrue and
1:32:56while these certainly aren't all of the
1:32:58claims that were made in the docu-series
1:33:00there remains only one other statement
1:33:02that requires our review and this claim
1:33:05was saved for last on purpose the
1:33:08evidence that Scott Peterson was
1:33:10convicted in the eyes of the media is
1:33:12portrayed in the multitude of examples
1:33:13presented to us in the series but I
1:33:16noticed we never hear about the numerous
1:33:18times that defense attorney garagos used
1:33:21that same media to spread his own
1:33:23narratives about the case in one hand
1:33:25they condemn the media and in the other
1:33:27they use it to their advantage in
1:33:30virtually every example that they use
1:33:32showing that the media is crucifying
1:33:35Scott it is also accompanied by a
1:33:37defense attorney like Mark garagos and
1:33:40Chris Pixley who would loudly defend
1:33:42Scott at every possible opportunity in
1:33:45fact it's precisely because of the fact
1:33:47that attorney garagos was seen in the
1:33:49media so often directly defending Scott
1:33:52on so many various occasions that his
1:33:55family would eventually go on to hire
1:33:57him to represent Scott Attorney garagos
1:34:01isn't afraid to use the media that he
1:34:03condemns as the cause of convicting
1:34:05Scott Peterson and then utilized the
1:34:08same tactics to try and exonerate him
1:34:11but as I watched the series I began to
1:34:13notice something very odd something that
1:34:16seemed out of place do you remember this
1:34:19man attorney Matt Dalton because he's
1:34:21the man in the series that is one of the
1:34:23most passionate Defenders of Scott
1:34:25Peterson virtually every time he's on
1:34:27camera he can be heard practically
1:34:29scoffing that anyone could possibly
1:34:32believe that Scott was guilty
1:34:34but do you ever notice that we're never
1:34:36really told who he is at the very
1:34:39beginning of the documentary he claims
1:34:41that the police looked in the wrong home
1:34:42for evidence of Lacey's homicide and in
1:34:45fact it was the house across the street
1:34:47that they should have been canvassing
1:34:48and never mind the fact that no actual
1:34:51evidence is ever provided that links
1:34:53that burglary to Lacey's homicide but
1:34:56its attorney Dalton's relationship to
1:34:58this case that is something that I find
1:35:00very peculiar when viewed with this next
1:35:02segment of attorney garagos's interview
1:35:05Scott Peterson's legal team is trying to
1:35:08shift blame to some murky satanic cult I
1:35:11had an associate who was working on the
1:35:12case and he became convinced of this
1:35:14theory he started running with it and
1:35:16then the tabloids and cable news shows
1:35:19went crazy with it you may notice that
1:35:21attorney garigo seems to want to
1:35:23distance himself from the satanic cult
1:35:25Theory which is kind of strange
1:35:27considering the fact that he used the
1:35:29theory in his opening statement at
1:35:32Scott's trial and then never once
1:35:34brought any direct evidence to support
1:35:36that totally wild and unfounded Theory a
1:35:40theory that claimed that Satanist had
1:35:43abducted Lacey as part of some Satanic
1:35:45ritual a claim that has aged like milk
1:35:48and what I find so interesting about
1:35:51this whole segment is when Mark garagos
1:35:53refers to the person who peddled this
1:35:55wild Theory as an associate of his Law
1:35:58Firm we find out later that this
1:36:00associate is someone he hired to help
1:36:03him represent Scott Peterson and this
1:36:05unnamed associate apparently ran with
1:36:08this crazy Theory which then caused the
1:36:11media in tabloid frenzy but I thought it
1:36:13was very odd that he never names that
1:36:16attorney because he's talking about
1:36:18attorney Matt Dalton the same person who
1:36:21defends the theory mere moments later
1:36:23despite it being characterized as
1:36:25tabloid nonsense which it was so I
1:36:29started to dig a little deeper and what
1:36:31I found was nothing short of
1:36:33unbelievable attorney Matt Dalton was
1:36:36fired by Mark aragos and his firing came
1:36:39shortly after Dalton ignored a
1:36:42court-imposed gag order and went ahead
1:36:44and spoke with Modesto Area journalist
1:36:46despite the court mandating that he not
1:36:49speak with the media later when attorney
1:36:52Dalton wrote a book about the Scott
1:36:54Peterson case Mark garigo sued him to
1:36:57try and stop him from publishing
1:36:59anything about his former client
1:37:01unfortunately garagos's lawsuit failed
1:37:04and Dalton was allowed to publish his
1:37:06book but in Dalton's book he claims that
1:37:09he was fired because he tried to take
1:37:11the Peterson's case away from garagos
1:37:13and deliver it to a different Law Firm
1:37:16altogether and that was why he was
1:37:18eventually fired but what's clear about
1:37:20this entire interaction is both men are
1:37:24doing their level best to hide the fact
1:37:26that they have both faced off in court
1:37:28as adversaries in that Mark garago sued
1:37:31him for what he claimed was unethical
1:37:34behavior on the part of attorney Matt
1:37:36Dalton and all of this matters because
1:37:39it demonstrates how these passionate
1:37:41Defenders of Scott Peterson utilize
1:37:44information to convey a story that they
1:37:47are trying to convince you of they
1:37:49seemingly pick and choose which
1:37:51narrative suits them best and omit any
1:37:54details that could possibly negatively
1:37:56impact their version of events they
1:37:59carefully construct a convincing story
1:38:01that preys on your views knowing full
1:38:03well that they are leaving out in
1:38:05information that reflects poorly on the
1:38:08entirety of their arguments and it
1:38:11leaves me wanting to ask a very simple
1:38:13question isn't that exactly what they
1:38:17are accusing the media of doing and
1:38:20after all this time I realized that I
1:38:22wasn't able to corroborate a single
1:38:25claim that has been made by the
1:38:26supporters of Scott Peterson I have not
1:38:29found any evidence that leans in his
1:38:31favor and you may be asking yourself why
1:38:34does it even matter when so many people
1:38:37were already convinced that Peterson was
1:38:39guilty I asked myself the question why
1:38:42go through this just to prove something
1:38:44that so many people already believe I
1:38:47promise you that by the time I end this
1:38:50video I will answer that question in a
1:38:52way that I believe will prove why this
1:38:55presentation this way was and is so
1:38:59important however before I do I am going
1:39:03to present in the most concise way that
1:39:05I I can the prosecution's case against
1:39:08Scott Peterson
1:39:09the people versus Scott Peterson the
1:39:13jury trial of Scott Peterson took nearly
1:39:15six months and despite the overwhelming
1:39:17media coverage the court did not allow
1:39:20cameras or recording devices this
1:39:22presented something of a unique
1:39:24challenge for my team but over the last
1:39:26four weeks we reviewed hundreds of hours
1:39:28of trial transcripts evidence court
1:39:30records and anything else related to the
1:39:33proceeding that we could find and what
1:39:35we learned was that the prosecution
1:39:37brought a compelling case against Scott
1:39:39Peterson in total the state brought
1:39:43174 witnesses to testify during their
1:39:46presentation of their case against
1:39:48Peterson and despite the many claims of
1:39:50Scott's innocence by attorney garagos he
1:39:53would only call 14 witnesses to the
1:39:55stand and a vast majority of those
1:39:58Witnesses had already been called
1:40:00previously by the state these are the
1:40:03primary arguments and points brought
1:40:05against Scott Peterson by the
1:40:07prosecution during his trial this list
1:40:09does does not include all of the
1:40:12previously mentioned points of evidence
1:40:13already discussed in this episode which
1:40:16are considerable the prosecution's case
1:40:19was as follows Scott Peterson was
1:40:22believed to have committed the homicide
1:40:24of Lacey Peterson sometime between the
1:40:26evening of December 23rd and the morning
1:40:29of December 24th 2002.
1:40:32Peterson was the last person to see
1:40:34Lacey alive he was believed to have
1:40:36committed the crime in a way that would
1:40:38have left little to no biological
1:40:40evidence and that he would have had
1:40:42ample time to clean up afterward the
1:40:45Petersons had just had their home
1:40:47cleaned by a maid service who had just
1:40:50mopped the floors the day before so the
1:40:53presence of a mop and bucket at the
1:40:55crime scene was thought to be out of
1:40:57place considering the house had just
1:40:59been cleaned Scott Peterson went on a
1:41:02planned trip to the Berkeley Marina over
1:41:0490 minutes away on Christmas Eve when he
1:41:08was supposed to be back in the area to
1:41:10pick up a gift basket before 3 30 pm he
1:41:13didn't leave his home until after 10 AM
1:41:16Scott Peterson was fishing in the same
1:41:20area where Lacey and Connor would
1:41:22eventually be found and on the morning
1:41:24of Christmas Eve Susan Medina the
1:41:27Peterson's neighbor saw Scott loading
1:41:29something large wrapped in a blue tarp
1:41:31into his vehicle at 9 55 am just before
1:41:36he left for the Berkeley Marina when
1:41:38Scott returned home from his fishing
1:41:40trip that day he noticed that Lacey's
1:41:41car was still in the carport he walked
1:41:44inside and saw that she was not home he
1:41:46then proceeded to put his clothing in
1:41:48the laundry took a shower and waits over
1:41:5130 minutes before he calls Lacey's
1:41:53mother to notify her that she's missing
1:41:56even after Scott verifies that she's not
1:41:59at the neighbor's house or anywhere else
1:42:01he never once attempts to contact police
1:42:03or notify them of her disappearance and
1:42:07more importantly Scott never tried to
1:42:09call Lacey after he arrived home because
1:42:12it's believed that he already knew that
1:42:15she was deceased after the family's
1:42:17initial search for Lacey in the park
1:42:19Scott told Lacey's mother Sharon you
1:42:22know if they find blood anywhere that
1:42:25doesn't mean anything I'm a sportsman
1:42:27just look at my hands I could drop blood
1:42:30anywhere law enforcement would lay later
1:42:32noticed that evening that Scott Peterson
1:42:34had a cut on his hand which seemed fresh
1:42:37and recent Scott was seen vacuuming and
1:42:41re-vacuuming the laundry room of his
1:42:43house on Christmas morning by Lacey's
1:42:45friends Stacy and Lori law enforcement
1:42:48believed that Scott Peterson used the
1:42:50several days that he had before they
1:42:52conducted their search to clean up the
1:42:54crime scene on January 5th 6th and 9th
1:42:58Scott Peterson returned to the Berkeley
1:43:00Marina and watched law enforcement as
1:43:03their dive teams attempted to find the
1:43:05remains of Lacey Peterson Peterson would
1:43:08go on to rent several different vehicles
1:43:10to revisit the marina believed to be an
1:43:13attempt to hide his tracks while he
1:43:15monitored law enforcement's efforts to
1:43:17find Lacey Days Later Scott would tell
1:43:20detective Grogan without being asked
1:43:22that they may find Scott's blood in his
1:43:24truck because he cut himself all the
1:43:27time and bled on the door of his truck
1:43:29statements that were entirely on
1:43:32unprompted by anyone Scott Peterson lied
1:43:35to several people on the day that Lacey
1:43:38went missing saying that he was out
1:43:40golfing that day something that was
1:43:42proven to be a lie the shoes that Scott
1:43:45said Lacey wore on her walks were found
1:43:48in their home
1:43:49eventually when Scott was confronted
1:43:51with a picture of him and Amber at the
1:43:53Christmas party by law enforcement he
1:43:56looked at it and said is that supposed
1:43:58to be me Peterson claimed to have only
1:44:01one debit card when in fact he had two
1:44:04the other PayPal debit card was shown to
1:44:07have been used to purchase various items
1:44:09and gifts for his Mistresses Scott
1:44:12referred to Lacey in the past tense in
1:44:15several of his conversations with law
1:44:16enforcement and eventually the media
1:44:19including asking about cadaver dogs
1:44:21within the first 24 hours after Lacey's
1:44:25initial disappearance
1:44:26after Scott's initial conversation with
1:44:29law enforcement he would never call them
1:44:31again to inquire the status of their
1:44:33investigation into finding Lacey during
1:44:37law enforcement's investigation a
1:44:39cadaver dog hit on Scott's boat and the
1:44:41boat trailer as well as back at the
1:44:43Peterson home following a trail out to
1:44:46the middle of the street which indicated
1:44:48that Lacey left inside of a vehicle on
1:44:52the day of his arrest Scott claims that
1:44:53he was running from the media trying to
1:44:56avoid their incessant efforts to tail
1:44:58him we now know that law enforcement was
1:45:01in fact tailing him that day and while
1:45:03he was being pursued Scott would get out
1:45:05of his vehicle and yell why don't you
1:45:08just arrest me already later that day
1:45:11Scott would be arrested by law
1:45:12enforcement as he continued to drive
1:45:14erratically which law enforcement
1:45:16believed was his attempts to shake their
1:45:18tail and flee the country
1:45:20in his vehicle law enforcement found the
1:45:23following survival gear a tent a shovel
1:45:27a gun a knife Viagra sleeping pills
1:45:32various camping gear over ten thousand
1:45:35dollars in cash including Mexican pesos
1:45:37four cell phones and his brother's ID
1:45:40police also believe that his family had
1:45:43made efforts to help Scott flee the
1:45:45country after Scott's mother had given
1:45:48him ten thousand dollars shortly after
1:45:51Lacey and Connor were found but it
1:45:53wasn't until recently that it was
1:45:55revealed that Scott Peterson had also
1:45:58been found with a map of Amber Fry's
1:46:00Workplace Law Enforcement believed at
1:46:03the time that Scott had planned to end
1:46:05the life of Amber fry because she would
1:46:07pose a considerable problem for him if
1:46:10and when his case went to trial during
1:46:13the trial of Scott Peterson it was
1:46:15revealed that he had multiple Affairs
1:46:18during the five months that he dated
1:46:19Janet ilsee she walked in on him and
1:46:22Lacey in bed together Janet would admit
1:46:25that she had no idea that Scott was
1:46:28already married and that he had
1:46:30indicated to her that he wanted to meet
1:46:32her family and when he dated Amber he
1:46:35lied to her saying that he had a degree
1:46:37in Divinity even buying a fake degree to
1:46:40fit his lie and all of these
1:46:43interactions with each of these
1:46:44girlfriends occurred while Scott
1:46:46Peterson was married to his wife Lacey
1:46:49Peterson these details don't even come
1:46:53close to encapsulating all of the
1:46:55evidence testimony cross-examination and
1:46:58detailed accounts that happened over the
1:47:00course of a nearly six month long jury
1:47:03trial but it does give a more complete
1:47:05view of the case against Scott Peterson
1:47:08by the time attorney Mark garagos was
1:47:10given the opportunity to tell his side
1:47:13of the story his entire case was largely
1:47:15seen as incomplete and unproductive his
1:47:19closing remarks were seen as so so
1:47:21ineffectual that it made national news
1:47:24and it wasn't simply due to the fact
1:47:26that he was having a bad day attorney
1:47:28garagos was trying to polish a literal
1:47:31turd of a case devoid of Reasonable
1:47:34Doubt despite his client's efforts to
1:47:36obscure the evidence of his criminality
1:47:39even the most prepared experienced and
1:47:42knowledgeable legal Minds would have
1:47:44been hard-pressed to effectuate a
1:47:46different outcome and the jury would
1:47:48explain why members of the jury were
1:47:51later asked why they found Scott
1:47:53Peterson guilty of the homicide of Lacey
1:47:55and Connor Peterson and to them it was
1:47:58simple Scott had been fishing in the
1:48:01same vicinity of where Lacey and Connor
1:48:03were later found upon arriving home he
1:48:06immediately washed himself and his
1:48:08clothes before calling anyone let alone
1:48:11his wife Scott Peterson was the last
1:48:14person to see Lacey alive and finally
1:48:17Scott Peterson had the means motive and
1:48:20upper opportunity to commit the crime in
1:48:23a way that no one else did but now we
1:48:27have finally arrived at why I spent over
1:48:29a month working on this case and my hope
1:48:32is that it will explain exactly why I
1:48:35took the time to get to this point
1:48:38the high price of misinformation
1:48:41over the last decade there has been a
1:48:44massive shift in the way that criminal
1:48:46defendants have arbitrated their
1:48:48convictions for most of the last century
1:48:51if someone was wrongfully convicted of a
1:48:53crime they would have to rely on the
1:48:55Appellate process to petition a higher
1:48:57Court to review the facts of their case
1:48:59and request a new trial in extraordinary
1:49:03occasions the Appellate Court may have
1:49:05their conviction vacated or set aside
1:49:08effectively absolving them of their
1:49:11incarceration but this is exceedingly
1:49:14rare in the criminal justice system
1:49:16successfully appealing a conviction has
1:49:19become increasingly more and more
1:49:21expensive complicated and often requires
1:49:25many years before any significant action
1:49:27is taken if at all and as a consequence
1:49:31of the slow-moving wheels of Justice we
1:49:33have begun to see a considerable effort
1:49:36by the convicted to try their cases in
1:49:39the court of public opinion these new
1:49:41methods are seen as an incredibly
1:49:44powerful tool to bring attention to
1:49:46cases that have languished in the court
1:49:48system cases that involve men and women
1:49:51who have endured wrongful convictions
1:49:53and that for a variety of reasons can
1:49:56only find Justice by means of advocacy
1:49:58through social media celebrity attention
1:50:01or pardons from Governors and or
1:50:04presidents this is best demonstrated in
1:50:07the case of Adnan Syed regardless of
1:50:10where you land on the guilt or innocence
1:50:12of his case a compelling argument can be
1:50:15made that it is because of the attention
1:50:17by the media and the serial podcast that
1:50:20ultimately led to him being a free man
1:50:24we can all agree that people who are
1:50:27truly innocent who have been unfairly
1:50:29convicted deserve their freedom however
1:50:32over the last 10 years as social media
1:50:35has become an integral part of society
1:50:37the use of those platforms has been
1:50:39weaponized by criminal defendants to
1:50:42reframe their own stories and the
1:50:45success of those efforts has started to
1:50:47gain the attention of those who were
1:50:49previously believed to be guilty Beyond
1:50:51any reasonable doubt and now the
1:50:54supporters of those defendants utilize
1:50:56various forms of social media that helps
1:50:59to drastically change The Narrative of
1:51:01their guilt previously held by the
1:51:04general public simply by dropping small
1:51:06and persistent seeds of Doubt eventually
1:51:09those seeds take root and if they
1:51:12succeed in maturing and growing to
1:51:14fruition their Grassroots efforts may
1:51:16eventually convince someone with the
1:51:19means and connection to create one of
1:51:21the most effective tools that can change
1:51:23the the minds of millions a tool that
1:51:27has the power to change and alter the
1:51:30way that we see the world around us
1:51:32permanently
1:51:33on January 19 2013 a documentary
1:51:37premiered at the Sundance Film Festival
1:51:39that would eventually go on to be
1:51:41nominated for best documentary at the
1:51:44bafta film Awards it told the story of
1:51:47an orca named Tilikum and the profoundly
1:51:50negative impact that captivity has on
1:51:53their species the documentary Blackfish
1:51:56was eventually released on Netflix and
1:51:58quickly became one of the most talked
1:52:00about documentaries of the year it would
1:52:03go on to have such a profound effect on
1:52:06the Public's view of SeaWorld that it
1:52:09would eventually lead to their closure
1:52:11of the killer whale shows and the
1:52:13breeding program entirely the impact was
1:52:17so significant that it resulted in a
1:52:20drastic decrease in the overall
1:52:22profitability of the company and would
1:52:24lead to a class action lawsuit for
1:52:27failure to admit to shareholders that
1:52:29the documentary had profoundly affected
1:52:31attendance at the park
1:52:34entire segments of the general public
1:52:36had vowed to stop attending Sea World
1:52:39because of a single documentary the
1:52:43impact of which is still being discussed
1:52:45and felt to this very day a documentary
1:52:49did that for much of the last 20 years
1:52:52we have watched the rise of the
1:52:54Innocence Project and other similar
1:52:56organizations come to the Forefront of
1:52:59the Criminal Justice System their
1:53:01efforts have exposed wrongful
1:53:03convictions have helped men and women
1:53:06fight their innocence and through the
1:53:08use of advanced forensics like touch DNA
1:53:11have helped to take the truly innocent
1:53:13off of death row and return to the
1:53:16wrongfully convicted their freedom a
1:53:20generation of people that saw conviction
1:53:22rates soaring through the 70s 80s and
1:53:2590s have begun to question the validity
1:53:27of a justice system that failed to
1:53:30exonerate clear examples of the innocent
1:53:33being convinced addicted for crimes they
1:53:35did not commit it is incredibly
1:53:38important that we continue to advocate
1:53:40for the innocent but I believe that in
1:53:43this case specifically the pendulum has
1:53:45swung too far in the other direction in
1:53:48just the last decade we have watched the
1:53:50likes of Jodi Arias convicted of the
1:53:53brutal homicide of her former boyfriend
1:53:55Travis Alexander gained considerable
1:53:57support hosting her own website boasting
1:54:01a net worth of over one million dollars
1:54:04and selling her art that she makes in
1:54:06prison for tens of thousands of dollars
1:54:09doing all of this while serving a life
1:54:11sentence for a truly vicious crime Arius
1:54:15lives a more comfortable life than a
1:54:18vast majority of middle-class Americans
1:54:20trying to make ends meet and largely
1:54:22because of the notoriety that she has
1:54:24received from the crime that she
1:54:26committed and now she enjoys the support
1:54:29of thousands who regularly advocate for
1:54:32her innocence on her behalf half all
1:54:35over social media and right here on
1:54:37YouTube just two months ago we watched
1:54:40Casey Anthony bring her case before the
1:54:42general public through her own
1:54:44docu-series which sought to disregard
1:54:46all of the evidence and claimed that the
1:54:49former most hated mother in America was
1:54:52actually the victim not the perpetrator
1:54:55a story that was told for her by NBC
1:54:58through a three-part documentary series
1:55:01and now even a cursory look into the
1:55:04social media platform Tick Tock will
1:55:07show you the overwhelming support
1:55:09Anthony now enjoys because of the
1:55:12effectiveness of her campaign to rewrite
1:55:15history even the infamous familiar
1:55:18convict Chris Watts has an ever-growing
1:55:21community of supporters who now create
1:55:24content on this very platform that seeks
1:55:27to question the legitimacy of his
1:55:29conviction
1:55:30despite the evidence and his own
1:55:32confession his own parents now claim
1:55:35that he could not have been responsible
1:55:37for his crimes and they seek to put the
1:55:39blame and culpability of his conviction
1:55:41on a conspiracy to hide the truth and
1:55:45here's the thing every single one of the
1:55:48people that I just mentioned people that
1:55:50I have already discussed on this
1:55:52platform they are succeeding each and
1:55:56every day they find new supporters
1:55:58people who are not familiar with the
1:56:00totality of their cases or who just
1:56:03don't care and who only see what they
1:56:06want to that the person who was charged
1:56:09tried and convicted is one of the many
1:56:11who are unfairly treated by the justice
1:56:14system by the media and because of that
1:56:16they don't deserve to be behind bars and
1:56:20now after reviewing this case in its
1:56:22entirety I believe that one of the most
1:56:25successful campaigns of misinformation
1:56:27that has occurred in recent history
1:56:29began the day that his beautiful wife
1:56:32went missing since December 24 2002 I
1:56:36believe that Scott Peterson his family
1:56:39and many of his supporters have
1:56:41intentionally misled the public to
1:56:43create a narrative that does not line up
1:56:46with the facts I believe that they have
1:56:49succeeded in deceiving countless people
1:56:51into believing that Scott Peterson is
1:56:54innocent and that he was one of the many
1:56:56wrongfully convicted victims of a
1:57:00justice system overrun by a media
1:57:02frenzied populace storming the gates
1:57:05pitchforks in hand it takes our
1:57:07predilection for empathizing with the
1:57:10innocent and it gaslights us into
1:57:11believing a narrative that requires you
1:57:14to keep your head in the sand and in a
1:57:17time where we still have people who
1:57:19genuinely and sincerely believe that the
1:57:22Earth is flat I am no longer surprised
1:57:25when I hear people refusing to see
1:57:28undeniable truth staring them right in
1:57:31the face for me it is cognitive
1:57:34dissonance at its worst because there is
1:57:37a vast difference between believing that
1:57:39Scott Peterson is innocent and actively
1:57:42telling the world that He is we can all
1:57:45believe whatever we want to but
1:57:47perpetuating a Viewpoint that robs
1:57:49victims of justice is something else
1:57:52entirely during my investigation I came
1:57:55across someone who asked me the question
1:57:57why does it matter if Scott Peterson is
1:58:00trying to lie his way out of prison who
1:58:02does that narrative harm I believe that
1:58:05his lies harm everyone it tarnishes the
1:58:09memory of Lacey her family and now the
1:58:12myriads of people who have been enticed
1:58:14by the claim that he had nothing to do
1:58:16with her death it continues to defame
1:58:20and ignore the life that was stolen from
1:58:22Lacey before she ever had the chance to
1:58:25be a mother something that she had
1:58:27wanted since she was a little girl and
1:58:30and what's worse is the person who was
1:58:32convicted for that crime continues to
1:58:35categorically refuse to acknowledge
1:58:37accept or agree that he shares any blame
1:58:41whatsoever and now he has successfully
1:58:45convinced Untold number of people that
1:58:48deny Lacey and her family the Justice
1:58:50they deserve
1:58:51I have a request just for a moment clear
1:58:55your mind and really try to imagine what
1:58:58it would be like to be the parents or
1:59:01family of Lacey Peterson
1:59:03after spending a lifetime watching their
1:59:06daughter flourish as a child as a young
1:59:09woman and then as a future mother they
1:59:12had all of that taken away from them
1:59:14every single year at Christmas time when
1:59:17the rest of the world is enjoying the
1:59:19holidays spending time with family and
1:59:21loved ones they have to relive and be
1:59:24reminded of one of the most public and
1:59:26horrendous tragedies that we've seen in
1:59:29the last 20 years the roaches don't get
1:59:32to heal because the people who now
1:59:34viciously defends God's innocence refuse
1:59:37to allow them to have any peace or
1:59:39Solace you cannot imagine the things
1:59:42I've seen all over the internet from
1:59:45people who defend Scott Peterson
1:59:47outright Waging War against anyone who
1:59:50dares to challenge their claims of his
1:59:52innocence these aren't just a few Fringe
1:59:55people their entire narrative has been
1:59:58shown on some of the largest media
2:00:00conglomerates and networks in the world
2:00:02that any series alone has over three and
2:00:06a half million views on YouTube I cannot
2:00:09fathom what the parents of Lacey
2:00:11Peterson have been through suffering the
2:00:14loss of their child being under the
2:00:16scrutiny of the media always under the
2:00:18watchful eye of the general public
2:00:20enduring years of waiting for justice
2:00:23laboring through a nearly six-month long
2:00:26jury trial having to see pictures of
2:00:29Lacey and Connor desecrated and then
2:00:31suffering a near mistrial during the
2:00:34jury deliberations only to finally hear
2:00:37the words we the jury find Scott
2:00:40Peterson guilty and that's where this
2:00:43story should have ended but it didn't
2:00:46Scott continued to lie something he's
2:00:49been doing for decades and then chose to
2:00:52weaponize his refusal to be a man and
2:00:56empowered his Defenders to go wage war
2:00:58with the truth I don't like the word
2:01:01Victim Because it implies that the
2:01:03person is helpless and unable to fend
2:01:05for themselves but in this case I
2:01:08believe that Scott Peterson has made
2:01:10victims of the family of Lacey Peterson
2:01:12and everyone else that he is convinced
2:01:15that he is actually innocent and when
2:01:18lies become the truth it prevents those
2:01:21who are truly innocent from being given
2:01:23the opportunity to have their case heard
2:01:26people who genuinely need the assistance
2:01:29of organizations like the Innocence
2:01:31Project are relegated to the back burner
2:01:33because the stories of people like Scott
2:01:35Peterson who enjoyed the considerable
2:01:37financial support of his wealthy family
2:01:40are able to encourage and support a
2:01:43six-part documentary series that floods
2:01:46the airwaves with misinformation a
2:01:49documentary that is in my opinion one of
2:01:52the most overt examples of
2:01:54misinformation that I have seen in the
2:01:57last 10 years there are truly innocent
2:02:00people whose stories you have never
2:02:02heard and do you you know why because
2:02:05those people don't have a wealthy family
2:02:07they can't afford a million dollar
2:02:09retainer for a lawyer like Mark garagos
2:02:12and they don't have brothers and sisters
2:02:15with a vested interest in getting their
2:02:17brother out of prison because of the
2:02:19impact that it has on each of them I
2:02:22spent many years of my career being on
2:02:24the side of Defending my clients even
2:02:27clients that made terrible mistakes but
2:02:29no matter what they did or didn't do the
2:02:32line was always drawn when or if the
2:02:35only way forward was to craft a Web of
2:02:38Lies to free them from a conviction or
2:02:41losing the outcome of a case because the
2:02:44truth it matters and not because I say
2:02:48so but because it's the right thing for
2:02:51Lacey and for their family that was
2:02:53robbed of knowing Connor of being
2:02:56grandparents of the memories the
2:02:58holidays and all of the moments they
2:03:01would have had watching Lacey become a
2:03:03mom at the beginning of this video I
2:03:06told you that I have a new opinion of
2:03:08this case and it's true I do reviewing
2:03:11this case has changed the way that I see
2:03:14True Crime cases forever because I will
2:03:17no longer accept claims made by
2:03:19documentaries created by either side
2:03:22without evidence to back or support them
2:03:25I will not allow media pundits to
2:03:28dictate how I feel about anything most
2:03:32especially a criminal proceeding
2:03:34previous to my investigation of this
2:03:36case I believe that it was entirely
2:03:39possible that Scott Peterson was in fact
2:03:41innocent of the crimes that he was
2:03:43convicted of in his jury trial that
2:03:45maybe there was more to his story and
2:03:48that we had all been wrong
2:03:49but now after everything that I've
2:03:51presented to you and I assure you it is
2:03:54nowhere close to the totality of the
2:03:56evidence that exists that points to his
2:03:59guilt but after all of the hours spent
2:04:01reading documents evidence testimony
2:04:04pleadings rulings audio recordings books
2:04:08and everything in between I have come to
2:04:11this definitive conclusion
2:04:13I believe that Scott Peterson has
2:04:16engaged in a decades-long effort to
2:04:18reframe the truth through a deliberate
2:04:20campaign of misinformation and lies that
2:04:24he is a boy who never learned the
2:04:27importance of Integrity of being a man
2:04:30and accepting responsibility for his
2:04:32misdeeds but that Scott Peterson is
2:04:36definitively guilty of the crime of the
2:04:39homicide of Lacey and Connor Peterson
2:04:41because the truth matters even if Scott
2:04:45Peterson refuses to acknowledge it
2:04:48in closing today I want to take the time
2:04:51to remember the incredible life of Lacey
2:04:54Peterson
2:04:55her mother Sharon Rocha wrote an
2:04:58incredible book called for Lacey in the
2:05:02book she describes Lacey's childhood her
2:05:05teen years and what she was like as a
2:05:07young adult she goes into detail
2:05:09outlining the experiences her memories
2:05:12and moments that they shared as a mother
2:05:15and as a daughter and I want to take a
2:05:18moment to read a passage from her book
2:05:20because while so much of this video has
2:05:23been about Scott I want to end it with
2:05:25the person who matters most Lacey and
2:05:29the son that she couldn't wait to have
2:05:31this is an excerpt from the book for
2:05:34Lacey
2:05:35[Music]
2:05:38I can't accept what happened to Lacey I
2:05:41just can't there's nothing as
2:05:43devastating as the death of a child and
2:05:46there's nothing as unacceptable as what
2:05:49Scott did to her together the two are an
2:05:52unimaginable horror December 24th 2002
2:05:57is the day the sky crashed down on our
2:05:59lives time stopped Lacey's been gone
2:06:03almost three years as I write this
2:06:05sentence and wounds have yet to heal I
2:06:09measure life from that call from Scott
2:06:11things either happened before or after
2:06:14it life has gone on but in increments of
2:06:18pain anger and grief from what I know
2:06:21that's how it is for families of this
2:06:24kind of tragedy it's certainly that way
2:06:26for me the trial seems surreal almost
2:06:30like it didn't happen I'm glad Scott
2:06:32received the punishment he deserved but
2:06:35I can't say that I derived any
2:06:37satisfaction from it there definitely
2:06:39hasn't been any closure other than the
2:06:42steel doors clinking shut every night
2:06:44what's closed the hole in my heart
2:06:47hasn't closed Lacey is still gone what
2:06:51happened is just sad Lacey at 27 years
2:06:55old seven and a half months pregnant
2:06:58exuberant generous full of life and
2:07:01excited about the future had her life
2:07:04stolen and the person responsible was
2:07:08the man she trusted more than anyone Our
2:07:11Lives shouldn't be like this at all not
2:07:15laces not Scots not ours or the
2:07:19Petersons I'm heart sick for all of us I
2:07:23still want to know what possessed him to
2:07:25do it I want to know what he did I want
2:07:29to know what happened to Lacey I want to
2:07:33know what made him think he could get
2:07:35away with it so many questions
2:07:37unanswered
2:07:41at the end of her book Sharon Rocha goes
2:07:44on to describe a dream that she had
2:07:46several years after Lacey and Connor
2:07:48were found as a parent I read this next
2:07:51part of her book and my heart absolutely
2:07:54broke for her and for Lacey's family but
2:07:58these are the final words of her book
2:08:00for Lacey
2:08:02[Music]
2:08:05and then there was this one brief
2:08:08wonderful peaceful moment when she came
2:08:11back it was mid-june 2005 and I was
2:08:15asleep dreaming about Lacey something
2:08:17I've rarely done as the dream happened I
2:08:20was also able to watch it from afar two
2:08:23distinct Vantage points allowing me to
2:08:26remember the details with unusual
2:08:28Clarity in the dream the day was bright
2:08:31warm and sunny and I felt the way I did
2:08:34before Lacey was stolen from us I was
2:08:37happy content and hopeful like maybe
2:08:40something good was going to happen then
2:08:43I saw my dad who was buried in the same
2:08:46Cemetery as Lacey lead my daughter whole
2:08:49and beautiful out from her grave my
2:08:53father knew how much I needed to see her
2:08:55holding her hand he brought her home to
2:08:58me then he disappeared leaving the two
2:09:02of us alone Lacey and I were in the
2:09:05backyard where we sat beneath the
2:09:07fruitless Plum Tree I sat cross-legged
2:09:10and she laid on her right side with her
2:09:13cheek on my thigh she was wearing the
2:09:15same bathrobe that she had worn as a
2:09:18little girl I took my fingers and
2:09:20brushed her bangs to the side stroked
2:09:22her cheek and marveled that she always
2:09:24had the softest complexion Lacey said
2:09:28something to me and her voice was raspy
2:09:30for not speaking for two years it felt
2:09:33wonderful to have her back I was able to
2:09:36touch her again she looked up at me and
2:09:39smiled the same way she did as a little
2:09:42girl the same way she did as a teenager
2:09:45the same way she did the last time we
2:09:48were together and I put my hand on her
2:09:51pregnant belly I was at peace all was
2:09:54calm as she talked Lacey extended her
2:09:57left arm in the air waving it around for
2:10:00emphasis
2:10:01she always gestured as she talked I used
2:10:04to say she talked with her hands just as
2:10:06I did we were alike in so many ways
2:10:09close in so many ways I stared at her
2:10:13beautiful little hands adoring her long
2:10:16slender fingers and soft skin and then I
2:10:19saw her fingernails were polished is
2:10:22that Dutch tulips I asked remembering
2:10:24the name of the color both of us liked
2:10:27yes she said with the giggle then she
2:10:30said something else
2:10:31mom why did Scott want to kill me she
2:10:35asked I don't know honey I said
2:10:39I didn't want to die she said
2:10:42why did this happen
2:10:43I don't know honey I repeated
2:10:46mom I came to tell you that I'm okay she
2:10:50said
2:10:51I wanted you to know that we're at peace
2:10:54and I love you
2:10:56the last thing I remember is saying
2:10:59I love you too
2:11:01and I did
2:11:03and I do
2:11:05and I always will
2:11:24several weeks ago a fellow content
2:11:27creator here on YouTube named Matt
2:11:29Orchard also covered the Scott Peterson
2:11:31case instead of viewing his content as
2:11:33competition I wanted to do something
2:11:36very different after watching his video
2:11:38in its entirety I decided that this
2:11:41video would complement his I have always
2:11:44believed that content creation is an art
2:11:46and when it's done well it deserves the
2:11:49praise and attention from the community
2:11:51regardless of the ever-changing Winds of
2:11:54the algorithm Matt Orchard's video is
2:11:57truly exceptional and I highly recommend
2:12:00that you watch it any area of Scott's
2:12:03case that he discussed I have tried to
2:12:05leave to him so my video is intended to
2:12:08be complementary to his many of you may
2:12:11already be aware that the last month has
2:12:13been particularly challenging for me I
2:12:17underwent a complicated oral surgery
2:12:19procedure and I am still in the process
2:12:21of having reconstructive surgery that
2:12:24will take the better part of 18 months
2:12:26to complete so I want to thank you for
2:12:29your support while I've been on the mend
2:12:31your kind words and remembering me has
2:12:34meant the world to me I am so grateful
2:12:37to be a part of this community and for
2:12:39each of you thank you all for reminding
2:12:42me that this world is full of beautiful
2:12:45people and that this life is truly a
2:12:49gift now I have mentioned it several
2:12:51times throughout this video but this
2:12:53episode has been the combined effort of
2:12:55nearly a dozen people over the last five
2:12:58to six weeks and I want to take a moment
2:13:01to thank them for their help with the
2:13:03incredible volume of research that went
2:13:05into understanding this case
2:13:07Sherry is our lead researcher and she
2:13:10helps keep the BCM research team
2:13:11together it is because of her that I am
2:13:14able to condense thousands of hours of
2:13:16research into each video so thank you to
2:13:19Sherry and each of the BCM research team
2:13:21members you are all appreciated
2:13:24immeasurably and to the YouTube and
2:13:27patreon subscribers as well believing in
2:13:29me well I took the time to make this
2:13:32episode is nothing short of incredible
2:13:34and I am so truly overwhelmed by your
2:13:37vote of confidence I am only able to do
2:13:40this work because each of you have made
2:13:43it possible I also want to say that my
2:13:45goal for creating content will continue
2:13:47to be focused on quality Above All Else
2:13:51that may mean that videos take extra
2:13:53time but I believe that the additional
2:13:56effort is worthwhile and my hope is that
2:13:59the videos that I produce will be worth
2:14:01the wait it was just three years ago
2:14:03that I had undergone my last major spine
2:14:06surgery and I was terrified
2:14:08I couldn't see a way forward and money
2:14:11had become a problem faster than I had
2:14:13been anticipating after a pandemic and
2:14:16countless struggles in between I
2:14:18couldn't have imagined that I would find
2:14:20my way here some people spend the
2:14:23entirety of their lives trying to
2:14:24achieve their wildest dreams and I am so
2:14:27thankful to say that I can count myself
2:14:29lucky to be amongst those who are living
2:14:32their dreams each and every day and I
2:14:36can only say that because you have made
2:14:38that possible I am already feverishly
2:14:41working on the next series and it will
2:14:43be very much like this one but if you
2:14:45made it this far and enjoyed the series
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