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Sarah Boone Screams at Police During Shocking Interrogation: ‘I Didn’t Kill Him!’ — Transcript

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  1. 0:00so I'm going to read you your rights
  2. 0:02again because I we have to talk about
  3. 0:04that and
  4. 0:05since talking about the incident we just
  5. 0:08have to do it just like we did yesterday
  6. 0:11just like we did yesterday remember I
  7. 0:12read e the right right yeah just the
  8. 0:14exact same thing but since I'm asking
  9. 0:15you followup questions I need to read
  10. 0:17them to you okay all right so you have
  11. 0:20the right to remain silent anything you
  12. 0:22say may be used against in court you
  13. 0:24have the right to talk to a lawyer
  14. 0:25before and during questioning without
  15. 0:26charge if you cannot afford a lawyer and
  16. 0:28want one one can me for for you before
  17. 0:30questioning without charge has anyone
  18. 0:32thre any promised you anything to get
  19. 0:34you to talk to me no and do you
  20. 0:36understand why I descried you yes
  21. 0:37perfect okay so this morning we went to
  22. 0:41his a team um and we were informed of
  23. 0:47some injuries that he has um by the
  24. 0:50doctor so I
  25. 0:52want um so he's
  26. 0:55got scratch marks to his
  27. 0:58back I know that okay and um it's called
  28. 1:04a contusion do you know what contusion
  29. 1:05is so like basically you're getting hit
  30. 1:08and then you know you you get a mark
  31. 1:10from it you'll get bruising like some
  32. 1:13someone hate you or something like that
  33. 1:14it's called a contusion so he had some
  34. 1:17injuries to his left
  35. 1:19shoulder um he
  36. 1:22had um he had a cut near his like lips
  37. 1:25we could see we could see his um his
  38. 1:27mouth was a little I
  39. 1:31okay I also too I he fell off my son's
  40. 1:34bike okay so I don't know and he's
  41. 1:37notorious for running into the wall or
  42. 1:39the hall tree so why okay what what
  43. 1:43about the
  44. 1:46scratches there's also sex yes okay cuz
  45. 1:50there's also like a like a scratch on
  46. 1:53like the back of his neck like kind of
  47. 1:55like going but it's like going straight
  48. 1:58across I have noide that's from and
  49. 2:01they're all recent like they they they
  50. 2:03occurred recently it wasn't something
  51. 2:04that Ur post or that occurred a week ago
  52. 2:07or two days ago 3 days ago they
  53. 2:09definitely occurred you know the night
  54. 2:10leading up to when who was in all
  55. 2:12honesty all honesty we have not gotten
  56. 2:15into it okay that's why like the only
  57. 2:18thing I thought you guys were going to
  58. 2:19ask me about which I was going to honest
  59. 2:21with anyway I just scratching his back
  60. 2:24everything else I have no idea what it
  61. 2:26is no idea what it is nonetheless had my
  62. 2:30son over the house too so well your son
  63. 2:33was there when when was he last there oh
  64. 2:37gosh understanding he was there like
  65. 2:39last Tuesday last I don't know if it was
  66. 2:42Tuesday but yes he was there last week
  67. 2:45so well we're talking about Sunday we're
  68. 2:48we're just talking about what occurred
  69. 2:49Sunday CU like I said the injuries
  70. 2:52are they occurred within that time
  71. 2:54period so you're talking about day
  72. 2:55before yesterday Sunday leading into
  73. 2:58Monday you called us yesterday at 1 so
  74. 3:02but the incident you guys were painting
  75. 3:03and stuff the night prior correct so
  76. 3:05we're talking about Sunday that's why
  77. 3:08I'm thoroughly confused because we had a
  78. 3:12good time sitting on the back porch
  79. 3:14having wine and smok on a couple of
  80. 3:16cigarettes and then decided to go inside
  81. 3:18and literally paint do puzzles and play
  82. 3:22and listen to music that's
  83. 3:24why nobody got out of ss this is what
  84. 3:29mind blowing me like I don't I have no
  85. 3:32clue nobody laid a hand on anybody he
  86. 3:35also had um like on the left side of his
  87. 3:39forehead he had basically
  88. 3:42bruising um and um on like his head and
  89. 3:47skull I have no idea as if something hit
  90. 3:50him I consider touch traa I have not
  91. 3:55touched him I have not touched him how
  92. 3:58would you get those in tell me will both
  93. 4:00know I have not touched him yesterday
  94. 4:05when we took photographs of your overall
  95. 4:07body um and they did the bule swabs did
  96. 4:10they go under your fingernails no okay
  97. 4:13are you willing to let us absolutely
  98. 4:15swab underneath your fingernails go for
  99. 4:17it okay I have no idea and I don't want
  100. 4:21to seem out of sorts but I have no idea
  101. 4:25we had a good day MH it was a good day
  102. 4:29we've had good days lately even
  103. 4:31considering everything that's going on
  104. 4:32with our jobs and life in general and ex
  105. 4:35wives and everything it's been good like
  106. 4:38I don't even know where this is coming
  107. 4:41from yeah physical was probably you said
  108. 4:45I think a month ago where you got the
  109. 4:48injury right you said that was a few
  110. 4:51weeks yeah a few weeks that was the last
  111. 4:53like physical altercation between the
  112. 4:55two of you um a month ago you hit you
  113. 4:59with a curtain yeah that's why I can't
  114. 5:01believe you guys didn't take that
  115. 5:05either like we've been good I don't know
  116. 5:08like it's since the last time he got out
  117. 5:10of jail like we've been good he's been
  118. 5:13having his classes and his seeing his
  119. 5:15probation officer who's amazing so what
  120. 5:19do you mean by good what's your
  121. 5:20definition of good the probation officer
  122. 5:23oh no you said you guys have been good
  123. 5:25what your do I've been good I don't
  124. 5:28think you all understand he kind comes
  125. 5:29at me all the time he comes at me so
  126. 5:33it's either I flee or try to go upstairs
  127. 5:37and go to sleep that's usually what it
  128. 5:39is I don't know if you talk to Brian
  129. 5:40about any of that but most of the time
  130. 5:42when I flee I go over there
  131. 5:45so right but you're saying that you guys
  132. 5:47have been good and when I asked you
  133. 5:49yesterday there has the last incident
  134. 5:51that you could remember was the curtain
  135. 5:53R inent which you said was a month ago
  136. 5:55so give her T right so what do you mean
  137. 5:57by he comes after you like he
  138. 6:00gets belligerant drunk like I don't know
  139. 6:04if you all have looked through my phone
  140. 6:05yet and too many of the pictures and the
  141. 6:07videos that I have taken and the at one
  142. 6:11point I started documenting everything
  143. 6:14okay so you all will see in my pictures
  144. 6:18bloody fingers split foreheads he split
  145. 6:21my nose I've got this right I don't know
  146. 6:24Brian told you about it where I had to
  147. 6:26have almost what I had one really bad
  148. 6:28surgery but then it got really really
  149. 6:30really really bad where I had to go like
  150. 6:32four or five more times afterwards and
  151. 6:33then attend to it and then put me in the
  152. 6:35back of the leg right so it's and why
  153. 6:39are you still with him everybody ask me
  154. 6:41that when I tell you guys
  155. 6:45this I really love him like I do and I
  156. 6:49feel like I can help him like I feel
  157. 6:51like I could help him which I did
  158. 6:53because he's come a really he came a
  159. 6:55really long way from where he was in
  160. 6:58Philadelphia to moving back here and to
  161. 7:00deal with everything else that he's been
  162. 7:01dealing with I've really helped him I've
  163. 7:04bailed him out of jail what three times
  164. 7:07I've gone to every single Hearing in
  165. 7:09every single arraignment everything that
  166. 7:10I did for him gone to see all his public
  167. 7:13defenders go to the state I've gone to
  168. 7:15the state I I did everything for him
  169. 7:17because I'm trying to help him because I
  170. 7:18had I had hope in him and he was
  171. 7:23trying really trying just and then he
  172. 7:26starts to think about things and it just
  173. 7:28I think he gets so overwhelmed and then
  174. 7:30it's like next thing I know is drinking
  175. 7:32so it's like oh man I know where this is
  176. 7:35going to go so I'm going to go upstairs
  177. 7:37read a book or I'm going to go for a
  178. 7:39bike ride or I'm going to do something
  179. 7:40else or I don't want to drink I don't
  180. 7:43want to drink the occasional wine
  181. 7:46whatever or if it's a weekend that's
  182. 7:49when you you have a good time you don't
  183. 7:52have to wake up the next day I have to
  184. 7:54wake up the next day and do things I
  185. 7:55have to attend to Lucas I have to take
  186. 7:57him to school I have all this stuff to
  187. 7:58do
  188. 7:59he doesn't know how
  189. 8:02to I guess maintain himself where I can
  190. 8:07do 50 things at once and still know the
  191. 8:0950 things more previously prior that I
  192. 8:12need to get done he can't process like
  193. 8:15that he didn't process like that so it
  194. 8:16he would literally not literally but had
  195. 8:18SM coming out of his ears so the next
  196. 8:20thing you know he doesn't want to deal
  197. 8:22with it I'm going to go get something to
  198. 8:24drink so the majority of the time I
  199. 8:27would hang out outside or do something
  200. 8:29because I don't want to
  201. 8:31drink and every time every time his job
  202. 8:36broke his heart and it made me sad
  203. 8:38because he had so much pride in his job
  204. 8:41and the store that he took care of so
  205. 8:44much totally went downhill and that
  206. 8:48broke his heart because he had put so
  207. 8:50much work and effort into fixing it up
  208. 8:52and his manager was
  209. 8:56awful and basically gave up on all of
  210. 8:59the employ way so I think that had a
  211. 9:02huge bearing on why he would drink so
  212. 9:05much his ex-wife is Bunker she was all
  213. 9:09over him all the time send me money send
  214. 9:12me money send me
  215. 9:14money how can I send you money when I
  216. 9:16don't have a job and he's still trying
  217. 9:19to take care of me and lugas by paying a
  218. 9:22bill here or there getting some
  219. 9:24groceries so he always had something on
  220. 9:26his mind which is why again
  221. 9:30I got the pudles and the bank just try
  222. 9:32to get him off of it so we don't have a
  223. 9:34dream or he doesn't have a dram so when
  224. 9:37you all see my phone you can see all of
  225. 9:40the damage he has done to me and the
  226. 9:43videos of him smashing my television
  227. 9:45because he's belligerant
  228. 9:48dropped where most of the time I just
  229. 9:50don't want to beat him and I try to help
  230. 9:52him I try to come him
  231. 9:54down eventually he just passed
  232. 9:57out well yesterday it sound like you
  233. 10:00guys were just drinking like a glass or
  234. 10:02two like yeah you obviously had the
  235. 10:04bottle but you I mean you told me on the
  236. 10:07yeah but you told me on recording like
  237. 10:09that you were not drunk he was not drunk
  238. 10:10you guys were having a good time I don't
  239. 10:13get I can't get drunk number one I do
  240. 10:16not want to get drunk I don't like being
  241. 10:20non- complimented having my wit about
  242. 10:22myself I don't like feeling out of
  243. 10:24control
  244. 10:25mhm so I'm just saying you're you're
  245. 10:29making it sound like like he's a raging
  246. 10:31alcoholic today and yesterday I was kind
  247. 10:33of asking you those questions and you're
  248. 10:35like a little defensive like no we're
  249. 10:37not alcoholics he we are not you know
  250. 10:41but you guys are both sobered on Sunday
  251. 10:44from your knowledge because when I said
  252. 10:46you went and passed out you were like no
  253. 10:48I didn't pass out I just fell asleep so
  254. 10:50now it's kind of like what is it is were
  255. 10:53you guys drinking and it got out of hand
  256. 10:55and it got physical or is it
  257. 10:59Sunday was one of the better days that
  258. 11:01we have had in quite some time he's
  259. 11:04dancing with my dog you can see that too
  260. 11:07on the pictures him loving the dog he
  261. 11:10loves the dog and dancing around having
  262. 11:13a good time and
  263. 11:14just just being happy kind of
  264. 11:19thing he doesn't know I can't I mean I
  265. 11:23can get like maybe two three glasses of
  266. 11:26wine and I'll be fine but I have to have
  267. 11:29my about myself because I don't know
  268. 11:30what to expect well let's talk about
  269. 11:32Sunday what was Sunday how were you like
  270. 11:34how many glasses of wine did you have
  271. 11:36how many glasses of wine did he have the
  272. 11:38bottle was gone I mean I don't know if
  273. 11:40you pour it any out yes no that was from
  274. 11:43previous you said that there was a half
  275. 11:45bottle left over mhm and then um that
  276. 11:50you had W well I don't even know how the
  277. 11:53wine how' you guys get the wine for
  278. 11:55Sunday I'm guessing he went to public he
  279. 11:59this does he do the does he like leave
  280. 12:01the house and you stay home or do you go
  281. 12:03to public like go okay did you go with
  282. 12:06him Sunday to public so most of the time
  283. 12:08what happens is because the convenience
  284. 12:11store where we get cigarettes is here
  285. 12:13and then public literally is CAD W do it
  286. 12:16okay so what he'll do is he'll start go
  287. 12:18by public and then on the way back catch
  288. 12:21the convenience store okay so you did
  289. 12:23Sunday I'm guessing that's what he did
  290. 12:25because next thing I know he's walking
  291. 12:27in with L okay so that's
  292. 12:30it's him trying to be nice so I don't
  293. 12:32have to go out and do it plus there's
  294. 12:34stuff that around the house that I had
  295. 12:35to take care of so that's usually what
  296. 12:36will happen or I'm folding laundry and
  297. 12:38he'll go run out and do
  298. 12:41whatever so where were you guys are
  299. 12:45on on drunkenness not drunkenness on
  300. 12:50Sunday I told us you weren't drunk no I
  301. 12:53was not Dr I was not Dr so with him I
  302. 12:57don't know
  303. 13:00I I know when it's like okay man where I
  304. 13:03have told him slow down it's starting to
  305. 13:06catch up with you slow down slow down
  306. 13:09bless you and another thing too is I
  307. 13:11don't like listening to music with him
  308. 13:13because he gets too involved in the
  309. 13:15music and the music that he listen to is
  310. 13:19little rust around the edges and like
  311. 13:21just it makes me frous listening to his
  312. 13:24music so I kept asking him let's not
  313. 13:27let's just you and me talk you and me
  314. 13:29will just be the ones that are talking
  315. 13:31which was fine because I mean we were
  316. 13:33playing with a dog whatever and then
  317. 13:34it's like okay Mall let do the painting
  318. 13:37we just did the puzzle took a break now
  319. 13:39let's do this sure enough sat down we're
  320. 13:43sitting in there talking laughing
  321. 13:44talking about new movies we're watching
  322. 13:46movie
  323. 13:48trailers while we're doing painting and
  324. 13:50all that other stuff so it's still
  325. 13:51background noise to him because I think
  326. 13:53that's what he's used to is having
  327. 13:55background noise for me I can sit in
  328. 13:57here all day with not a p
  329. 13:59but he always has to have some kind of
  330. 14:01background noise which I didn't mind
  331. 14:02because the trailers were cool and he
  332. 14:04was interested in showing them to me
  333. 14:06getting excited about movies that were
  334. 14:08out or upcoming okay so in your laptop
  335. 14:11you're talking about and I mean and then
  336. 14:14we it was you said it was a good day
  337. 14:17like you guys didn't have any have any
  338. 14:20uh conversations about your relationship
  339. 14:22you guys didn't go down like the rabbit
  340. 14:24hole like had too many to drink and you
  341. 14:26guys start getting no when I tell you
  342. 14:28this it made me so happy that he
  343. 14:31actually listened to what I I had to say
  344. 14:34was just we'll get through it this will
  345. 14:37be fine it's just it's it's a small
  346. 14:40hurdle that you and I together will get
  347. 14:42through because turn about the money
  348. 14:47jobs yes nothing relationship wise
  349. 14:50though like no issues relation like did
  350. 14:52you guys have a conversation about your
  351. 14:53relationship or was it just about just
  352. 14:56what's going on right now got it I tried
  353. 14:59to evoke it from him
  354. 15:01so he gets it off his chest because I
  355. 15:04call him the volcano where eventually
  356. 15:06he's going to erup right and what he has
  357. 15:09learned in his classes is to communicate
  358. 15:12which is a huge thing in a relationship
  359. 15:14where he has been practicing
  360. 15:16communication so he actually talks to me
  361. 15:19about things and unburdens himself put
  362. 15:22it on me I'll sit there and try and
  363. 15:24figure it out for you like I have almost
  364. 15:26everything not a worry just tell me get
  365. 15:29it out of you but it was when I tell you
  366. 15:33I was so happy like it was such a good
  367. 15:36day I kid you not the weather was
  368. 15:38beautiful outside I'm the one that had
  369. 15:40him go inside so we can do puzzles and
  370. 15:43painting listen to music or whatever
  371. 15:44else he wants to do so then he starts
  372. 15:47doing whatever it is we're doing
  373. 15:48together in the living room and then
  374. 15:52starts talking because I think he gets
  375. 15:54comfortable with okay you know what
  376. 15:56we're here it is a good day let me go
  377. 15:59ahead and explain myself so I know
  378. 16:02nobody else knows but I
  379. 16:03know nobody knew George better than I
  380. 16:06did I say that I need George better than
  381. 16:10himself and I tried in every way shape
  382. 16:14and form as
  383. 16:16everyone I helped him I took care of
  384. 16:22him I missed him a lot and I didn't even
  385. 16:25sleep last
  386. 16:27night I miss him a
  387. 16:30lot I mean is there any chance it got to
  388. 16:32be too much for you and you couldn't
  389. 16:33handle taking care of him and I never
  390. 16:36sto them I never
  391. 16:39stopped that's what I'm here
  392. 16:42for I never stopped I'm here now CU I'm
  393. 16:46still trying to help it yeah we just
  394. 16:50don't I mean it's unexplainable how you
  395. 16:52got these injuries and I had no idea you
  396. 16:55were the only one with him 100% right
  397. 16:59hand to God I have no idea how he got
  398. 17:02them nobody touched anybody nobody
  399. 17:07touched
  400. 17:10anybody um you had mentioned that you
  401. 17:13take uh you would take photos videos
  402. 17:17kind of like a proof and just in general
  403. 17:19yeah I hearded documenting at one point
  404. 17:20but that
  405. 17:21was that was way before I think the last
  406. 17:25time that he got arrested where he was
  407. 17:27flying off the dend
  408. 17:30but then I had him bailed out I got him
  409. 17:33out of jail right but because he had
  410. 17:36violated the pre-trial
  411. 17:38diversion they this time it's probation
  412. 17:40so you don't have a choice in it you
  413. 17:42have to go see your probation officer
  414. 17:45you have to go to these classes it's
  415. 17:47court ordered where it took them a while
  416. 17:49to get used to it and understand they're
  417. 17:52not missing around I even went down and
  418. 17:54met his uh probation officer which I say
  419. 17:57I she's she's wonderful that's one of my
  420. 17:59questions to need to talk to about
  421. 18:01hugged me and said how much she knows
  422. 18:04that I take care of him she called me
  423. 18:06personally one time when George is at
  424. 18:08work when he was working 42-minute phone
  425. 18:11call she and I just saying how grateful
  426. 18:14she is that George has me and she knows
  427. 18:17how hard I'm working to help him just as
  428. 18:20she is and just as the classes will so
  429. 18:23once he started actually going on a
  430. 18:25regular basis to the probation officer
  431. 18:27and then to his
  432. 18:29sub C's class and his I don't know what
  433. 18:32VIP stands for B Intervention Program
  434. 18:35and actually listening to what it is
  435. 18:37everyone had to say he changed like I
  436. 18:40could I could see a change in him where
  437. 18:42before lashing out he would think about
  438. 18:45it and would always come home and show
  439. 18:47me his paper and we would look over his
  440. 18:49papers together it's like wow you
  441. 18:51actually are learning this in class and
  442. 18:54some of the stuff that they would show
  443. 18:55them like videos he would come home and
  444. 18:58be like St off so sorry for what I've
  445. 18:59done to you because for a video that he
  446. 19:03watches to make him feel that way where
  447. 19:07it's like oh
  448. 19:09man I have done her
  449. 19:12wrong but he's changed he
  450. 19:15changed and that's why you're still with
  451. 19:17him even though he's done all these
  452. 19:19things to you and when I tell you I love
  453. 19:21him I love
  454. 19:25him and when you have when you love
  455. 19:28somebody you have
  456. 19:29everybody tells me that oh my NE you're
  457. 19:32tell me that the office property manager
  458. 19:36at some point
  459. 19:37somebody gets enough then they have to
  460. 19:40to do something to defend
  461. 19:42themselves I would just flee and I don't
  462. 19:45know if you would like to see on my
  463. 19:47phone or I think it's I think it's
  464. 19:49actually on a laptop I actually because
  465. 19:52and you just to understand too I have
  466. 19:55like prior to classes in po
  467. 19:59kicked him out how many times I had him
  468. 20:01arrested how many times but you also
  469. 20:04went down and bail I know the next day I
  470. 20:08know what's on your
  471. 20:09laptop um what I tell
  472. 20:13you oh previously
  473. 20:17M I actually looked up how to file a
  474. 20:19restraining order okay because I would
  475. 20:22take him out his parents because of them
  476. 20:26constantly having to take him back in
  477. 20:28his bags of clothes all his stuff the
  478. 20:32one time the last time the father came
  479. 20:34out and I rate and just not even I think
  480. 20:38I don't even know if he knew Lucas was
  481. 20:39in the car just opened the back of my
  482. 20:42car and started throwing all his trrap
  483. 20:43and throwing it like throwing it like
  484. 20:45the car would J throwing all this stuff
  485. 20:48at that point because I continually did
  486. 20:50it not continually I think I may did it
  487. 20:53three times and he has nowhere else to
  488. 20:55go they got fed up and said nope either
  489. 20:58you're staying there or you're staying
  490. 20:59here but you're staying here at their
  491. 21:01place it's permanent you're not going
  492. 21:04back over there anymore so what happen
  493. 21:07is he pursues me so I don't know if you
  494. 21:10all know where Katy way tril is okay so
  495. 21:13we it's literally right right there from
  496. 21:16our
  497. 21:18apartment would ride his bike to work
  498. 21:21but before he would leave extra early
  499. 21:23and come up to the wall stand on top of
  500. 21:25his bike and poke his head over because
  501. 21:27he would know that I would be outside
  502. 21:28having my morning cigarette and cup of
  503. 21:31coffee where and I would also know too
  504. 21:34what time he would get off of work where
  505. 21:36I would know come getting all the work
  506. 21:38you can do the same thing so it's not
  507. 21:40like I ever got like a break from him
  508. 21:43where I told you all yesterday or
  509. 21:45whenever it was I started to feel that
  510. 21:47it was too much togetherness and when
  511. 21:49you have too much togetherness friction
  512. 21:52happens so I'm going to go ride my bik
  513. 21:55I'm going to go upstairs and read a book
  514. 21:57but what he every what does he say every
  515. 22:00waking moment he wants to be with me so
  516. 22:03and mind you our town home is either
  517. 22:05upstairs or downstairs so it's like if
  518. 22:08you would like to sit downstairs and
  519. 22:10watch a movie or play on the laptop look
  520. 22:12up some jobs you're more than welcome to
  521. 22:15I'm just going to be upstairs maybe
  522. 22:16watching one of my shows or maybe
  523. 22:17reading a book so and then when that
  524. 22:20would
  525. 22:22happen we really needed that so what's
  526. 22:24for dinner and then we would cook
  527. 22:27together and E
  528. 22:29and then crawl on the bed and watch a
  529. 22:31movie you're talking about this is like
  530. 22:33recent I you kind of like blost me like
  531. 22:35what it's like a little while ago now
  532. 22:38you're talking about now you're talking
  533. 22:39about tension building up and that you
  534. 22:40need space so have you been feeling that
  535. 22:43way lately or no okay
  536. 22:47no okay my thing is too so you all know
  537. 22:50oh I hate that you can't talk to her but
  538. 22:54um D his ex-wife when I say a monster
  539. 22:57she's a monster like it does she
  540. 23:00withholds her their children from
  541. 23:02speaking to him so he gets upset about
  542. 23:06that and then she like completely Beres
  543. 23:08him about money about father that he is
  544. 23:12what he did to her all this other stuff
  545. 23:14it doesn't matter I mean mind you this
  546. 23:17is not like good Recon but which is why
  547. 23:19he doesn't even bother calling anymore
  548. 23:21because he knows that he's she's going
  549. 23:22to answer he's going to have to talk to
  550. 23:23her so therefore he can't talk to his
  551. 23:25daughter the other time he talked to her
  552. 23:28made made her talk to cookie that's on
  553. 23:31my cell phone too so you can see it it
  554. 23:34doesn't matter like it doesn't
  555. 23:38matter what does she have to do though
  556. 23:40with anything about what happen Sunday
  557. 23:43into Monday like no I'm just saying like
  558. 23:45previously why the incidents would
  559. 23:48happen is she plays a big part in it
  560. 23:51okay onp job and money and groceries and
  561. 23:55all that okay Sunday I when I tell you
  562. 23:59this I have no idea I have no idea is
  563. 24:03there anybody else at the house no it's
  564. 24:05just me and
  565. 24:08him
  566. 24:10um since talking yesterday do you
  567. 24:12remember any like time timelines better
  568. 24:15like what
  569. 24:16time uh you guys were playing what time
  570. 24:19you he was zipped up in the luggage what
  571. 24:22time you upstairs we started because we
  572. 24:25had we cleaned the house a little bit
  573. 24:27did some laundry you started the
  574. 24:29activities around 4 you said yes around
  575. 24:314 4:30ish and then you just said that it
  576. 24:33was dark when you were playing hi and
  577. 24:35seek and I'm just curious if you
  578. 24:36remember but when we were outside that's
  579. 24:38where we would start and talk about
  580. 24:41things then eventually I was the one
  581. 24:43that had him come inside so what time
  582. 24:46you remember what time that was is what
  583. 24:47she's
  584. 24:50asking said you want to you went up to
  585. 24:53bed around midnight Midnight fell as
  586. 24:55asleep around
  587. 24:5612:30ish but those were the only I have
  588. 24:59so I have four and I have midnight so
  589. 25:01there's a big gap so I'm just curious
  590. 25:03like if you recall when you went
  591. 25:05upstairs to hide in the shower or like
  592. 25:09when we started to play hide and seek
  593. 25:11yeah well we went inside probably about
  594. 25:16but had to death we we were out there
  595. 25:18too long maybe about
  596. 25:216ish then talking about from hanging out
  597. 25:23outside and like M okay well we have two
  598. 25:26beach chairs that are out there right
  599. 25:27just enjoy the weather plus it's started
  600. 25:30to get dark and Nats mosquitoes yeah so
  601. 25:34let's go inside I don't want to be out
  602. 25:36here anymore all right let's go so we're
  603. 25:38doing whatever we did it for a while
  604. 25:40because that puzzle I don't know if they
  605. 25:42took it or they saw it um worked on the
  606. 25:45puzzle again finished it started to
  607. 25:48paint well started to listen to music
  608. 25:50for a little bit started to paint uh can
  609. 25:53we turn the music off no problem started
  610. 25:56to talk paint whatever
  611. 26:02maybe gosh that puzzle M probably good
  612. 26:06hour a half so
  613. 26:088:00ish is when went to hide
  614. 26:11upstairs originally no that's when we
  615. 26:14were like painting so then it's like
  616. 26:16okay well I we can't I don't want to
  617. 26:17paint anymore let's just come on okay
  618. 26:21you want to play hide and seat what he
  619. 26:22does is okay T your it which like okay
  620. 26:25we know okay take off mhm that's what we
  621. 26:28did and then you went upstairs and then
  622. 26:31he didn't come up and you came down and
  623. 26:33the suitcase was there originally
  624. 26:35because you guys were planing to do
  625. 26:37donations was already there um have you
  626. 26:40guys ever played the you said you played
  627. 26:42hide-and-seek like probably three times
  628. 26:44in your relationship when you have
  629. 26:46played have you ever zipped him up in a
  630. 26:48suitcase prior no okay so it was just
  631. 26:51kind of like that prop was there and it
  632. 26:53was there and it was in Play Because Why
  633. 26:56do you say it like that though
  634. 26:58I would never do that you would never
  635. 27:01zip them up in a
  636. 27:03suitcase I mean we were playing but I'm
  637. 27:06saying well I'm talking about hide and
  638. 27:08seek which is a game so the suitcase
  639. 27:11originally is in our closet buried all
  640. 27:14the way to the back if you I don't I
  641. 27:17know the CSI people so our closet our
  642. 27:20closet needs to be cleaned out really
  643. 27:22bad my son's clothes need to be cleaned
  644. 27:25out really bad because they don't fit in
  645. 27:27anymore and I'm tired of looking at
  646. 27:28so he took it upon himself including
  647. 27:31that suitcase to take it downstairs so
  648. 27:34we can get all of our clothes our
  649. 27:35donations and everything and just lead
  650. 27:37the whole thing by the clothing and
  651. 27:40shoothing at my son school no we're just
  652. 27:44I'm just asking out of the in the past
  653. 27:46like have have you ever zipped him up in
  654. 27:49anything jokingly or not but obviously I
  655. 27:53understand you know you're claiming that
  656. 27:55Sunday it was a joking matter you realiz
  657. 27:58was laughing but what I'm just asking is
  658. 28:00in the past like is it's something that
  659. 28:01you guys normally do absolutely not
  660. 28:06okay um we were actually this last game
  661. 28:09running out of places too high because
  662. 28:11we have a town home where it's upstairs
  663. 28:13or downstairs
  664. 28:15so um okay so do you remember making any
  665. 28:20videos or maybe having any cover
  666. 28:23anything any photos videos that you
  667. 28:26remember doing on your your phone on
  668. 28:31Sunday no I think I took a picture of a
  669. 28:35dog okay but your phone is password
  670. 28:38protected you have the password he has
  671. 28:40the facial recognition so it's not like
  672. 28:42someone else could be on your phone no I
  673. 28:44have both but you have the face and the
  674. 28:47password yeah but he only has the face
  675. 28:49correct no to be able to get onto your
  676. 28:52phone you told me that he looks at the
  677. 28:54phone oh I misunderstood I thought you
  678. 28:55were asking if I did yes it's me okay
  679. 28:58does he have access to your phone cuz
  680. 28:59you said it's phone okay how does he
  681. 29:01have access can I your phone yes it's
  682. 29:04right there on the kitchen counter okay
  683. 29:05but how did give ITW He he'll come and
  684. 29:08give it to me I'll just do the face
  685. 29:09thing where sometimes too like look
  686. 29:12he'll judge with me and say okay I need
  687. 29:13to borrow your phone he'll hold it while
  688. 29:15I'm cooking you're do something do the
  689. 29:17facial recognition Okay so he doesn't
  690. 29:19know the password and he doesn't have
  691. 29:20the facial recognition he is the only
  692. 29:23other person that would use your phone
  693. 29:24I'm assuming other well Lucas right but
  694. 29:27Lucas wasn't there so
  695. 29:28I great
  696. 29:31um so do your
  697. 29:34recollection no videos on Sunday not
  698. 29:37that I'm aware of okay I me I guess
  699. 29:41maybe took a picture of them the two of
  700. 29:43Tess and the dogs and George and have
  701. 29:47done dancing but I mean or it's just
  702. 29:51test okay um so I have something that I
  703. 29:55want to show you that we found um
  704. 29:58and it was from your phone
  705. 30:03mhm can you see
  706. 30:06it you need to move it around go
  707. 30:17ahead no I don't remember that
  708. 30:21me for everything you your
  709. 30:25batter oh okay
  710. 30:29let
  711. 30:37me the battery doesn't last very long it
  712. 30:40used to last a lot longer than that I
  713. 30:41don't know what happen Okay let me
  714. 30:49just no I was just simply asking because
  715. 30:52um you had a look on your face when she
  716. 30:55asked you if you've ever done that
  717. 30:56before you look kind of shocked and
  718. 30:59no okay why did you say it like that
  719. 31:02like I don't think you all understand
  720. 31:05who I am where well tell me I mean I've
  721. 31:08always been a surday student I am an
  722. 31:11outstanding mother to my son I excel at
  723. 31:15everything
  724. 31:18I I would not do that you would not
  725. 31:21somebody in the
  726. 31:23suitcase well I didn't like completely
  727. 31:26like it I mean I don't think it with one
  728. 31:28finger I left enough in there for us to
  729. 31:30get
  730. 31:32out and I wasn't planning on going
  731. 31:35upstairs and going to
  732. 31:45sleep no it just the way you said it you
  733. 31:47guys are scaring me
  734. 31:49Sor we just want you to watch this it
  735. 31:51came from your phone don't you want to
  736. 31:53know what's on it yes
  737. 31:55[Music]
  738. 32:11is it long because I don't know how much
  739. 32:12I can
  740. 32:17take I don't know how much I can take
  741. 32:30do I have to watch
  742. 32:32this I continuously throw up I don't
  743. 32:35sleep I don't want to see it if that's
  744. 32:38okay well it's on your
  745. 32:41phone and you can either explain it or
  746. 32:44we take it for what it is yeah we're
  747. 32:46just trying to give you the opportunity
  748. 32:47to tell us what's going on that's
  749. 32:52it it's that long 2
  750. 32:55minutes you guys
  751. 32:58for everything you got
  752. 33:01me [ __ ]
  753. 33:07you that's
  754. 33:14you
  755. 33:24my yeah that's when you do show me
  756. 33:33I don't want to watch it
  757. 33:37for last last time we talked to you you
  758. 33:40said that you put him in the suitcase
  759. 33:42you had two fingers hanging out I fli
  760. 33:45them
  761. 33:46over I flipped them over and that's
  762. 33:49where it was there's two different
  763. 33:52videos and a still picture where yeah it
  764. 33:54shows you flipping in different
  765. 33:56positions and him that he can't breathe
  766. 33:59and you're saying so this is upside down
  767. 34:02so in order for him to have gotten into
  768. 34:04it it would flip up right it was flipped
  769. 34:07up normal like as if you're packing
  770. 34:09something so this is upside down guys
  771. 34:12this is killing me right now so this
  772. 34:13image is upside down and then this small
  773. 34:18video that occurred 11 minutes later it
  774. 34:22splits over the other way closer to your
  775. 34:26dining room table okay now he's
  776. 34:28obviously still in there so he didn't
  777. 34:31how did that how did it go from the back
  778. 34:33to the front I flied it
  779. 34:36okay my plan was not to go upstairs and
  780. 34:39go to
  781. 34:40sleep well that's what you did but not
  782. 34:44intentional no you told me you went
  783. 34:46upstairs because you were ready for bed
  784. 34:50stop here okay
  785. 34:51but show me where you can see any
  786. 34:54fingers coming out cuz there's the end
  787. 34:57it's in his head's right here so going
  788. 35:00like this rather than going all the way
  789. 35:03up it's like
  790. 35:05this but why is he saying I can't
  791. 35:08breathe and why is he pushing on it as
  792. 35:10if he can't get out it doesn't show a
  793. 35:13hole there's no hole there's no fingers
  794. 35:15I don't see his fingers there's no hole
  795. 35:18I don't know what you want me to tell
  796. 35:19you like I don't know like what you want
  797. 35:21me to tell you I'm just showing you I'm
  798. 35:23just telling you what we' see and what
  799. 35:25we've heard from the other I chance he's
  800. 35:29begging to let for you to let him out
  801. 35:32you sound you're laughing in the
  802. 35:34beginning and then in the end it sounds
  803. 35:36kind of like a no it's not
  804. 35:38malicious well saying [ __ ] you it's not
  805. 35:43malicious that what does [ __ ] you mean
  806. 35:46to
  807. 35:47you well like if you were just if I were
  808. 35:49just tell my like I get told everything
  809. 35:53by a white woman so okay I my intention
  810. 35:57was not to leave him in
  811. 35:59there please understand that my
  812. 36:01intention was not to leave him in there
  813. 36:04but you went upstairs thinking that he
  814. 36:07could get himself out but the video
  815. 36:10shows Point see his fingers 30 minutes
  816. 36:15and then 30 minutes later he didn't show
  817. 36:18and he's tell and iake up do you think
  818. 36:22you told me he was laughing and I we
  819. 36:25were first got in there
  820. 36:28both of us were so how long was he in
  821. 36:29there for like this video is at 1112
  822. 36:32when it starts so was he in there for
  823. 36:34like a long time
  824. 36:35prior no no so it goes from funny to no
  825. 36:40longer funny you're the only one
  826. 36:43laughing but I didn't think that
  827. 36:45he was like panicky like I didn't I so
  828. 36:50pushing Up On A Suitcase saying sarah
  829. 36:53sarah
  830. 36:54Sarah I can't breathe
  831. 36:57George has done that in the past before
  832. 36:59too where it's just like he thinks that
  833. 37:01he's well with me kind of thing where
  834. 37:03it's like I he's never been locked in
  835. 37:04the STC but get up so it's kind of I
  836. 37:08thought it was the calling wolf crying
  837. 37:10wolf kind of thing and again my but
  838. 37:14nowhere in there is he laughing is he
  839. 37:16joking he is
  840. 37:18begging and you're the only one laughing
  841. 37:21okay and you're the only one saying
  842. 37:24derogatory comments like you're mad no
  843. 37:28please don't I don't need to sound
  844. 37:31negative and I don't know if I can say
  845. 37:33this but like it's like you guys are
  846. 37:35kind of trying to like feed me like no
  847. 37:37I'm just trying to show you a video that
  848. 37:38you no longer want to watch because you
  849. 37:40probably don't want to know the outcome
  850. 37:42of how and what you said well I know
  851. 37:45what you know you know what's on that
  852. 37:47video now no you remember making that
  853. 37:48video oh why don't you remember making
  854. 37:51the video probably because we have been
  855. 37:53drinking but you weren't
  856. 37:55drunk just because of went upstairs and
  857. 37:58just because you're drunk doesn't mean
  858. 38:00that you times that you were not drunk
  859. 38:02you said that you had your way you said
  860. 38:05he had his lips about you you said that
  861. 38:08you don't like not having your lips in
  862. 38:11my experience that somebody cannot
  863. 38:13remember doing something to the extent
  864. 38:15of making two videos and a video and
  865. 38:18taking a
  866. 38:19photo they are in
  867. 38:21toxicated okay I understand where you
  868. 38:24all are coming from well makees sense of
  869. 38:26it we're trying to try to figure out
  870. 38:29this video to us we're
  871. 38:31listening I just did like we were
  872. 38:34playing and then like I thought it
  873. 38:39was my plan was not to go upstairs and
  874. 38:42go to sleep my plan was not to he'll be
  875. 38:45up here any minute but you willingly
  876. 38:47went upstairs and went to sleep no one
  877. 38:49forced you to go upstairs and my plan
  878. 38:51was also to leave him in the suitcase so
  879. 38:55why didn't you take him out because I
  880. 38:56went upstairs here and then I fell
  881. 38:58asleep but why didn't you consciously
  882. 39:01think he's asking to come out he I
  883. 39:04didn't do it intentionally what do you
  884. 39:06think was going to happen if you leave
  885. 39:07somebody in a confined space like
  886. 39:10that well I thought by not dipping it up
  887. 39:13all the way it would be okay my plan was
  888. 39:16not to leave him in the was
  889. 39:20plan waiting for him to come
  890. 39:22upstairs and then when he
  891. 39:25did I fell asleep you said you were up
  892. 39:28there 30 minutes after 30 minutes
  893. 39:30somebody not coming up knowing that you
  894. 39:33that the last time you saw him was in
  895. 39:34the C 30 minutes later you're
  896. 39:37like maybe I should go check on him
  897. 39:39maybe I shouldn't no when you that
  898. 39:42didn't cross your mind that's like
  899. 39:44that's like an assumption like that's
  900. 39:45what you all are thinking just we're
  901. 39:48asking it's the whole tell
  902. 39:51us it's the
  903. 39:55drinking that's what it is
  904. 39:58it's the
  905. 40:00drinking I thought it was like I thought
  906. 40:03he was okay like I didn't that you he's
  907. 40:06telling you he's not he's telling you st
  908. 40:08you can't breathe he's saying your name
  909. 40:10and you're like that's my name don't
  910. 40:11wear it out guys that's how we are with
  911. 40:16each other like he
  912. 40:19has nobody understands our relationship
  913. 40:22this the whole suitcase
  914. 40:24thing never happened before would you
  915. 40:26leave some someone else in the suitcase
  916. 40:28would you leave Lucas in the suitcase
  917. 40:30jokingly because it was a joking matter
  918. 40:32you put him in there jokingly would you
  919. 40:33leave Lucas jokingly in there and you
  920. 40:35love Lucas right and you I would do that
  921. 40:37to him pet I wouldn't do that to him so
  922. 40:41I I just well sound like again I don't
  923. 40:43think you all understand like
  924. 40:46it's I mean it's not my that was not my
  925. 40:50intention y don't have any idea what I
  926. 40:54but by your AC and that's exactly right
  927. 40:56you get to to the point where you've
  928. 40:57done so much for somebody and they don't
  929. 40:59show you any appreciation he
  930. 41:03did not by by your words in the video I
  931. 41:07don't get that because you bring up the
  932. 41:09fact that when he's choking you you
  933. 41:11can't breathe that's how you felt when
  934. 41:13he cheated on you you couldn't breathe
  935. 41:16and you verbally several times told him
  936. 41:18just [ __ ]
  937. 41:20you play the rest you don't want when I
  938. 41:23say cheating it's on his phone
  939. 41:27cheating is cheating I think so too
  940. 41:30exactly it's your definition of cheating
  941. 41:32though so I mean that's what the word
  942. 41:34cheat means and that's what you told him
  943. 41:36in the video that I couldn't breathe
  944. 41:38when you cheated on
  945. 41:40me no that how I felt when he said Sarah
  946. 41:43I can't
  947. 41:44breathe and you told I don't know
  948. 41:47to this
  949. 41:49is what would you say somebody told you
  950. 41:52that they had done this done what you
  951. 41:55said somebody in the suitcase and went
  952. 41:57up what about do you all not think so
  953. 41:59you all think that it's like oh good I
  954. 42:00got them in there now I'm going to go to
  955. 42:02sleep is that what you guys are trying
  956. 42:04to assume or trying to like we're just
  957. 42:08the
  958. 42:10video is very portraying of the opposite
  959. 42:13of what you told us it is not it is not
  960. 42:17leading up it is not matching what
  961. 42:20statement you gave us in the car so and
  962. 42:23that's why we want to know and I don't
  963. 42:25doing this the injuries are not
  964. 42:28consistent with what you've told us so
  965. 42:31we have a lot of
  966. 42:32inconsistencies and this
  967. 42:35video explains itself it really truly
  968. 42:39does do you don't think that I have
  969. 42:41thought
  970. 42:42of thought about the video or thought
  971. 42:44about but no again if you don't mind
  972. 42:47please so you all are assuming that it's
  973. 42:50like oh good I got him in there now I'm
  974. 42:52going to go to sleep is that what you
  975. 42:54all are saying well it's not an
  976. 42:56assumption when that's you told us that
  977. 42:58happened that's and the
  978. 43:02video I
  979. 43:04mean I'm not going to
  980. 43:07say you thought he could get out on
  981. 43:10his but the video shows that he can not
  982. 43:12get out on his own but I but when I
  983. 43:15inist it I it with one finger from the
  984. 43:18outside but it had the hole in
  985. 43:22it and you're claiming that it had a
  986. 43:24paper flip so that's what assisted you
  987. 43:26in doing it no what you told us when I
  988. 43:28had my sweatshirt I said I thought it
  989. 43:31had a paper clip on it it's got but the
  990. 43:33zipper part is broken that's yes which
  991. 43:35is why we were going to
  992. 43:37it I I just you were able to enip it
  993. 43:40from the outside very easily because
  994. 43:42that's the way they're designed but you
  995. 43:44could on the inside
  996. 43:45too I don't know how so why wouldn't he
  997. 43:48have gotten k out if he could I don't
  998. 43:50know I don't know if you saw like where
  999. 43:52the hole was I don't know no the
  1000. 43:58that's what I'm saying like he's in one
  1001. 44:00position and where his head would be we
  1002. 44:03should be able to see fingers and then
  1003. 44:05when it flips over onto this right side
  1004. 44:08again his head is closer to us facing
  1005. 44:10the video so we should be able to see
  1006. 44:11fingers and we don't see anything we see
  1007. 44:13no movement of him trying to undip it or
  1008. 44:16physically UND dipping it all we see is
  1009. 44:17pushing up trying to push out of it
  1010. 44:21please do not assume I'm not assuming I
  1011. 44:25change anything I follow evidence but my
  1012. 44:27intention was not again oh good I got
  1013. 44:30him in there now I'm just going to go to
  1014. 44:32sleep what do you think someone that
  1015. 44:34knows nothing about this or he's just a
  1016. 44:37little bit like oh they were playing
  1017. 44:38around in a and
  1018. 44:42then that's what happened but you let
  1019. 44:45him out before I me you put him in so
  1020. 44:46why didn't you take him out because I
  1021. 44:48was upstairs and I fell asleep no before
  1022. 44:51you went upstairs you like consciously
  1023. 44:53had to walk upstairs I mean you
  1024. 44:55obviously remember going to bed because
  1025. 44:56you to give me a Ham on that and you
  1026. 44:59told me that that
  1027. 45:01you my intention is not for this to
  1028. 45:06happen I am sick about
  1029. 45:10it I've never done anything like this
  1030. 45:13before in the past I am
  1031. 45:17sick especially with that I thought I
  1032. 45:19couldn't sleep last
  1033. 45:21night I don't well here's the thing you
  1034. 45:25tell us last night you you did remember
  1035. 45:27this when you told us last night that he
  1036. 45:30was laughing you were laughing you put
  1037. 45:32him in the suitcase he has two fingers
  1038. 45:33sticking out and you go to bed now we
  1039. 45:36see something totally different and it
  1040. 45:38actually shows you upset and again using
  1041. 45:42uh derogatory terms to him when he's
  1042. 45:45begging for his leg to get out of that
  1043. 45:47suitcase so say we're assuming we're not
  1044. 45:50assuming but the thing but so it just
  1045. 45:53happened to be that whenever I was
  1046. 45:55videotaping or doing whatever else it
  1047. 45:56was had just happened and not have that
  1048. 45:58in it
  1049. 45:59okay and you also in the video you can't
  1050. 46:02see any holes there's nowhere in that
  1051. 46:05where the zipper separates and you can
  1052. 46:06see a hole if there's a hole he's
  1053. 46:08pushing on it begging you to get out we
  1054. 46:11should probably see that that that hole
  1055. 46:14he event would have been able to get out
  1056. 46:16alcohol based on what you're telling us
  1057. 46:18he should have been able to get out but
  1058. 46:19the
  1059. 46:20video shows him attempting to get out
  1060. 46:23begging to get out and he can't so
  1061. 46:25that's that's just what we're trying to
  1062. 46:26figure figure out I don't know if maybe
  1063. 46:28you had too much to drink you dipped it
  1064. 46:30up all the way and then you know I did
  1065. 46:31not dip it up all the
  1066. 46:34way I did not zip it up all the
  1067. 46:39way this is horrific okay horrific it is
  1068. 46:44Terri
  1069. 46:46horrific I don't think I'll ever be
  1070. 46:49right because of this ever be right
  1071. 46:51dealing with everything else that I have
  1072. 46:53in my life personally and then this
  1073. 46:57whom I
  1074. 47:00loved it was not
  1075. 47:03intentional I will put my hand on the
  1076. 47:05Bible it was not
  1077. 47:08intentional I would not do that to him
  1078. 47:10nor anyone else but you
  1079. 47:13did not intentional you intentionally
  1080. 47:17went up to bed I intentionally go to bed
  1081. 47:20I got being it
  1082. 47:22okay how did you not intentionally go to
  1083. 47:25bed you said you went up upstairs and
  1084. 47:27got into bed that's intentionally going
  1085. 47:28to bed waiting for him and he doesn't
  1086. 47:32come but you don't go down to check on
  1087. 47:33him so I happen to go to sleep when I
  1088. 47:36say go to sleep and what you do what you
  1089. 47:39normally do when you go to bed what do
  1090. 47:40you mean what is the bed
  1091. 47:42for going to sleep right so you go
  1092. 47:45obiously can tell you that like
  1093. 47:48I'm
  1094. 47:51okay you kept telling us hey I wasn't
  1095. 47:54intoxicated I wasn't this I wasn't that
  1096. 47:57being drunk and intoxicated
  1097. 48:01which then you can tell that I have been
  1098. 48:03drinking but okay so if you weren't
  1099. 48:07intoxicated then why would you ever
  1100. 48:09leave somebody in a suitcase that's
  1101. 48:11begging to get out that's telling you
  1102. 48:13they can't bre if I weren't if I hadn't
  1103. 48:15been drinking you you still think it
  1104. 48:18would be the same thing where it's like
  1105. 48:19hop in I'm going to go to
  1106. 48:22sleep is that what you all are trying to
  1107. 48:25do to portray me to do anything I'm
  1108. 48:28simply asking you to explain to me what
  1109. 48:32happened everything was fine and
  1110. 48:37dandy fine and dandy was fine and dandy
  1111. 48:41you want know okay for for me to tell
  1112. 48:44you this
  1113. 48:45again mind you I've been without him for
  1114. 48:48a day
  1115. 48:52now I
  1116. 48:54don't know
  1117. 48:58I I I mean I don't know what you all
  1118. 49:00want me to tell you because this was not
  1119. 49:03in any way shape or form hand on the
  1120. 49:06bital intentional okay so you just I
  1121. 49:09didn't kill him you left him there to
  1122. 49:12see I didn't mean to leave him there
  1123. 49:15that's what I'm trying to tell you you
  1124. 49:17got up and walked away how was that not
  1125. 49:19intentionally leaving him there because
  1126. 49:20I'm looking at the hole knowing that
  1127. 49:22it's it's
  1128. 49:23there he'll get out no PP because he
  1129. 49:27doesn't but you don't go check on
  1130. 49:29him you say you're up for 30 minutes and
  1131. 49:32he doesn't come up you don't go down and
  1132. 49:34check on him I'm in the bed you even
  1133. 49:37moved you moved you admit to moving the
  1134. 49:41suitcase like over so roll it you roll
  1135. 49:44it up like it's not like I didn't want
  1136. 49:46they be like
  1137. 49:48that don't you didn't want him to be
  1138. 49:50upside down how do you get down
  1139. 49:57you guys are killing me right now I just
  1140. 50:00want you
  1141. 50:01to that's how he talk to me most the
  1142. 50:10time I don't know how I don't know how
  1143. 50:15you want me to say it I'm just trying to
  1144. 50:17figure out what you would expect to
  1145. 50:20happen to somebody when you leave them
  1146. 50:21in a su I didn't mean to leave him in
  1147. 50:24there okay what's your reasoning for um
  1148. 50:28not calling 911 to because I didn't know
  1149. 50:31what to do and how horrific it
  1150. 50:34was I called Ryan and like what five
  1151. 50:36minutes later I called you guys not even
  1152. 50:39five minutes nonetheless that I had to
  1153. 50:41like try I was trying to do
  1154. 50:43CPR I was trying to do CPR I had to get
  1155. 50:46him
  1156. 50:47out and try to do
  1157. 50:50CPR and then call you guys and then was
  1158. 50:54continually doing CPR with the dispatch
  1159. 50:57on the phone where he had me count out
  1160. 51:00loud to help me focus on what I was
  1161. 51:09doing it
  1162. 51:11just I don't know
  1163. 51:14how I mean you you can sit here all day
  1164. 51:18long and say I thought he was going to
  1165. 51:19get himself out but
  1166. 51:21that he didn't and you went
  1167. 51:25upstairs and you stayed there for 30
  1168. 51:27minutes before you fell to sleep how but
  1169. 51:30can I say too like you chose not to ever
  1170. 51:32at any point during that 30 minutes walk
  1171. 51:34back down and check on him no wait one
  1172. 51:37second because I know like with you all
  1173. 51:39and then like if you continually ask me
  1174. 51:42like time frames time frames time frames
  1175. 51:44where I told you like I don't bother
  1176. 51:46even looking at the clock most of the
  1177. 51:47time so it's like a guate so I for all I
  1178. 51:50know that was maybe it was 10 minutes
  1179. 51:53okay but the point is you left the
  1180. 51:56living room where he was begging for
  1181. 51:58help and went upstairs regardless of how
  1182. 52:02long you were there you left you say he
  1183. 52:04was the calling wolf again okay so when
  1184. 52:09he asked to be let out like what's your
  1185. 52:12reasoning for not letting him out when I
  1186. 52:14was upstairs no when he's asking on the
  1187. 52:16video he asked multiple times he asked
  1188. 52:18to be let out I can't breathe what like
  1189. 52:20why didn't you let him
  1190. 52:22out well number one I number one I had
  1191. 52:26no idea it's going to end like that okay
  1192. 52:28number one okay uh number two just you
  1193. 52:33know what I'll give you five minutes so
  1194. 52:35in there that's they'll give you five
  1195. 52:37minutes or so five minutes for
  1196. 52:41what well based off the video One video
  1197. 52:44is at 11:12 and the next one's at 11:23
  1198. 52:47so you actually gave him at least 11
  1199. 52:48minutes per video recording so my my
  1200. 52:51thing is when it stopped he asked
  1201. 52:54multiple times I mean why why did not
  1202. 52:56let him out it's just a simple question
  1203. 52:59to be honest with you I I
  1204. 53:01mean were you
  1205. 53:04punishing no just well that's what
  1206. 53:06you're saying in the
  1207. 53:08video this is what you get this is what
  1208. 53:11you make me feel like see and then it's
  1209. 53:13all backfired on me like it's all
  1210. 53:16backfired on me and I understand the
  1211. 53:17severity of this I just you don't it's
  1212. 53:20awful I know
  1213. 53:22okay it's awful
  1214. 53:27and I will tell you both this right now
  1215. 53:29too I will never drink alcohol again
  1216. 53:32like I will never drink alcohol again I
  1217. 53:34don't care what it is in any way shape
  1218. 53:36or
  1219. 53:37form let's get back to this what was the
  1220. 53:41reason for leaving him when he's begging
  1221. 53:43to be let out I don't understand that
  1222. 53:45what I have a feeling was and again it's
  1223. 53:47the whole time frame thing you go I'm
  1224. 53:49not asking time frame I don't care about
  1225. 53:51a time frame he's in the bag saying I
  1226. 53:54and I my God you say Fu you when he so
  1227. 53:58like for like the whole few minutes that
  1228. 54:00he was in there like I minimum 11
  1229. 54:09but one
  1230. 54:12video well in between those two
  1231. 54:15videos yeah so what the question again
  1232. 54:19when he's begging for his life telling
  1233. 54:20you he can't breathe let me out and you
  1234. 54:23say [ __ ] you why don't you just let him
  1235. 54:25out what are you
  1236. 54:33there was OB something in your head that
  1237. 54:34you were thinking of when he was asking
  1238. 54:36to let be let out you're like again it's
  1239. 54:39the boy calling
  1240. 54:41wolf okay but where do where does this
  1241. 54:44game end I don't you say this is a game
  1242. 54:47you got obviously like the wrong
  1243. 54:49way so what was your intention for
  1244. 54:52leaving them in there and it's not fair
  1245. 54:54it is not fair you you guys are trying
  1246. 54:58to again oh he's in there night
  1247. 55:02night that's what
  1248. 55:04happened that's absolutely what
  1249. 55:07happened how's it not you got up off the
  1250. 55:10couch walked up the FL up stairs and got
  1251. 55:13in your bed thinking he was going to get
  1252. 55:15out and he didn't and you still didn't
  1253. 55:17go down and it's the Whole 30 minute
  1254. 55:19thing that you guys are trying to do
  1255. 55:20whatever like for all I know 10 minutes
  1256. 55:23he's begging for his wife telling you we
  1257. 55:25can't breath I don't know you want me to
  1258. 55:26tell you like I
  1259. 55:28don't I didn't intentionally mean for
  1260. 55:32this to happen you why you left him in
  1261. 55:36there and went
  1262. 55:38upstairs that's my only issue like what
  1263. 55:40am I supposed to write what do I write
  1264. 55:41so my thing as though it's what I have a
  1265. 55:44feeling is I went upstairs and just hit
  1266. 55:47the bed kind of thing but again I'm
  1267. 55:50thinking he'll be up here in a
  1268. 55:53minute but then I go out but my question
  1269. 55:57is why didn't you just let him out prior
  1270. 55:59to going out I don't know
  1271. 56:01why he's begging to be let out he's not
  1272. 56:04laughing he's not having fun this you
  1273. 56:07said you said this was supposed to be
  1274. 56:09fun you were laughing before before you
  1275. 56:11said he was laughing you were laughing
  1276. 56:13you went upstairs he had his fingers out
  1277. 56:15of the bag and he was playing but
  1278. 56:16obviously that's not the case so are you
  1279. 56:19guys so what is it you're trying to like
  1280. 56:22let you turn to your
  1281. 56:24why why what why what was the motivation
  1282. 56:28for leaving in the bag why you left in
  1283. 56:30the bag why I didn't have any motivation
  1284. 56:33it was me he and I having a great day
  1285. 56:37fooling around being stupid and
  1286. 56:39apparently me going upstairs and going
  1287. 56:42hit in the bed not going to sleep where
  1288. 56:45it's like I'm tired now I'm going to go
  1289. 56:47to sleep that's that's excluding you
  1290. 56:49know it's a good analogy for the day
  1291. 56:50excluding the fact that he's got uh a
  1292. 56:53bump on the back of his head a bump on
  1293. 56:54the front of his head and his lip as
  1294. 56:56and he has
  1295. 56:58a I don't know what you all want me to
  1296. 57:00tell you like this is not fair at all at
  1297. 57:06all yes that you all are assuming that
  1298. 57:08that's from me where else did I come
  1299. 57:11from if you were say it's opposite you
  1300. 57:13were in a suitcase and you're asking to
  1301. 57:15be let out would you hope that that
  1302. 57:18person would let you out like you're
  1303. 57:20asking to be let out Su should they not
  1304. 57:22let you
  1305. 57:24out eventually
  1306. 57:26I'm guessing I mean I
  1307. 57:29don't I'm blaming it on the
  1308. 57:31Wi on
  1309. 57:34the so you guys are like assuming that
  1310. 57:38you keep saying we're assuming we're not
  1311. 57:39we haven't assumed anything but you guys
  1312. 57:42are
  1313. 57:43assuming that that's what I did no by
  1314. 57:49what the facts of what happened we got
  1315. 57:51there you said you pulled him out of the
  1316. 57:53suitcase you said you went up you went
  1317. 57:55to bed we're not assuming that these are
  1318. 57:57the facts that you're telling us like oh
  1319. 58:00I'm tired oh I'm tired well that's what
  1320. 58:02you told me on a t record statement
  1321. 58:04yesterday because when I said oh you
  1322. 58:06went upstairs and passed out you were
  1323. 58:08like no I did not pass out you got
  1324. 58:10attitude with me because you were assent
  1325. 58:12you thought I was assuming that you were
  1326. 58:14drunk so that's that's an assumption
  1327. 58:16that was an assumption when I said you
  1328. 58:17passed out and guess what you corrected
  1329. 58:19me you very adamant about the fact that
  1330. 58:22both of you had your we what's your
  1331. 58:23favorite word you use com
  1332. 58:28Ved you've used it today too to say that
  1333. 58:31you guys were within your within your
  1334. 58:33WBS there's two two empty bottles of
  1335. 58:36wine no but you drink both of them I
  1336. 58:40think you did we didn't there's receipts
  1337. 58:42for this they were both purchased
  1338. 58:44yesterday so I don't know how you didn't
  1339. 58:46because they weren't there the day
  1340. 58:48before public receipts from
  1341. 58:51yesterday only thing purchased on either
  1342. 58:54one was a single bottle of wine two them
  1343. 58:57so we have each bottle of wine that was
  1344. 58:58empty in your garbage can that you
  1345. 59:00purchased yesterday or he purchased but
  1346. 59:02you do what it consumed
  1347. 59:05together okay well I is receip so it's
  1348. 59:09not even
  1349. 59:10worth so this
  1350. 59:14is so I don't know what you guys
  1351. 59:18are I don't I don't know we were just
  1352. 59:21hoping that we can figure out why you
  1353. 59:24what was the motivation there was no
  1354. 59:25motivation
  1355. 59:28wow but we're watching a video that
  1356. 59:30after talking to you everything was
  1357. 59:33laughing and fun now we're watching a
  1358. 59:35video where it's not laughing and fun
  1359. 59:37he's begging for his life and you are in
  1360. 59:39a very angry voice telling him to [ __ ]
  1361. 59:42off no yes that's absolutely what it was
  1362. 59:46it's not an assumption the video is
  1363. 59:48there we played it for
  1364. 59:50you so you guys think that I
  1365. 59:55intentionally you you got up off theou
  1366. 59:58walked or walked up the stairs and got
  1367. 1:00:00in the bed that was intentional there's
  1368. 1:00:03no way getting around that you
  1369. 1:00:05intentionally did that nobody drugged
  1370. 1:00:07you up there you didn't float up damn
  1371. 1:00:09stairs okay well it's not fair it's not
  1372. 1:00:11fair that you guys keep trying to say
  1373. 1:00:14that that's what I
  1374. 1:00:16did I don't know what saying you told us
  1375. 1:00:20that you didn't go
  1376. 1:00:22upstairs again there was a hole in
  1377. 1:00:26suitcase I exi it from the hole with one
  1378. 1:00:29finger well the damn hole didn't do him
  1379. 1:00:31no good
  1380. 1:00:33did but he could push it open no
  1381. 1:00:37he the video him pushing up if he could
  1382. 1:00:41push it open why would he have gotten
  1383. 1:00:42out himself why would he beg you to open
  1384. 1:00:44it you he can't
  1385. 1:00:46[Music]
  1386. 1:00:47breathe okay if someone can do something
  1387. 1:00:50for themselves they're going to do it
  1388. 1:00:51they don't need assistance unless they
  1389. 1:00:53need assistance why would he and start
  1390. 1:00:56cuz he couldn't cuz it was all the way
  1391. 1:00:59this it
  1392. 1:01:01wasn't I intentionally didn't do it that
  1393. 1:01:04I intentionally did not
  1394. 1:01:06do inally do what zip it all the
  1395. 1:01:11way he nor I nor that's why you two
  1396. 1:01:16didn't lay hands on each other no
  1397. 1:01:19no I don't have anything you're right he
  1398. 1:01:23doesn't whatever that is whatever this
  1399. 1:01:26whatever it is see this is what happened
  1400. 1:01:29it's not fair that you guys just because
  1401. 1:01:32he has those automatically blame it on
  1402. 1:01:34me like well what about when you had you
  1403. 1:01:37your injuries and he gets arrested is
  1404. 1:01:39that not fair really like really exact
  1405. 1:01:42same thing really he has injuries you
  1406. 1:01:45have injuries like what does that mean I
  1407. 1:01:47don't have any injuries because he and I
  1408. 1:01:50have not been at it with one another so
  1409. 1:01:53every time that you guys fight you you
  1410. 1:01:54both hit each other so you should have
  1411. 1:01:56probably gone to jail all those times
  1412. 1:01:57that he went to jail for domestic well
  1413. 1:01:59the one time I
  1414. 1:02:01did but he completely
  1415. 1:02:04completely trashed the police report CU
  1416. 1:02:09that's nothing what happened because the
  1417. 1:02:10reason why I got taken was because my
  1418. 1:02:12story was different than
  1419. 1:02:14his so I'm being portrayed as like
  1420. 1:02:18this
  1421. 1:02:20abuser we're not saying that he doesn't
  1422. 1:02:22abuse you absolutely we not saying so
  1423. 1:02:25I'm the one that portrayed
  1424. 1:02:28I because I have never dealt with
  1425. 1:02:31anything like this before I don't know
  1426. 1:02:33what to do how to do it and I always
  1427. 1:02:35know what to do and how to do
  1428. 1:02:37it this I don't know so I don't know
  1429. 1:02:40like what's going on or
  1430. 1:02:44like we are simply trying to find out as
  1431. 1:02:47well again we got one side of the story
  1432. 1:02:51you're telling us we're going with what
  1433. 1:02:53you're saying but then we find stuff
  1434. 1:02:55that negates what you're telling us and
  1435. 1:02:57I only remember good that
  1436. 1:02:59okay you're telling us that we're
  1437. 1:03:01assuming stuff but what we're simply
  1438. 1:03:03doing telling you what we saw in the
  1439. 1:03:05video and what you told I understand
  1440. 1:03:07because I don't remember that okay
  1441. 1:03:11doesn't mean it didn't happen just
  1442. 1:03:12because you don't remember
  1443. 1:03:13it so is the texting thing something
  1444. 1:03:16about me like what's the
  1445. 1:03:20one texting oh no I'm texting so
  1446. 1:03:25you guys are scaring me so like I don't
  1447. 1:03:27know like what to expect going I hi
  1448. 1:03:29questions of things that need to be
  1449. 1:03:31taken care of like I don't okay you left
  1450. 1:03:33them in the bag when he's begging you
  1451. 1:03:34saying I can't breathe let me out and
  1452. 1:03:37you said [ __ ] you and you got up off the
  1453. 1:03:39couch and went upstairs and left him in
  1454. 1:03:41that
  1455. 1:03:42bag not
  1456. 1:03:45intention again I would never do that to
  1457. 1:03:48George you did not
  1458. 1:03:52intentionally know that I don't know
  1459. 1:03:56that you got up and you went up to death
  1460. 1:04:00alcohol is a shitty
  1461. 1:04:04thing it's
  1462. 1:04:06alcohol not the reason that
  1463. 1:04:12you you all please sit down listen to me
  1464. 1:04:15pleas you all
  1465. 1:04:19listen I did
  1466. 1:04:23not not intend intentionally kill
  1467. 1:04:28him so your in I don't know what it is I
  1468. 1:04:31need to do or how to do it or what to
  1469. 1:04:34say or how to say it but your but what
  1470. 1:04:36was your intention everyone knows
  1471. 1:04:38everyone knows everything that I've done
  1472. 1:04:41for George and loved him and
  1473. 1:04:42continuously helped him throughout his
  1474. 1:04:44life with me and made him a happier
  1475. 1:04:48better person everybody has everyone
  1476. 1:04:50knows that everybody has so it's like
  1477. 1:04:53okay so while we're in a good place
  1478. 1:04:55right now I'm going to snap that while
  1479. 1:04:58we're in a good place right
  1480. 1:05:00now absolutely I got you on video
  1481. 1:05:02screaming [ __ ]
  1482. 1:05:04you this is what it feels like when
  1483. 1:05:06you're choking me this is what it feels
  1484. 1:05:08like which was however long
  1485. 1:05:11ago you said vide from last mon
  1486. 1:05:16clearly there's still feelings towards
  1487. 1:05:18it you wouldn't say it if you didn't
  1488. 1:05:20feel it but I would never do that but it
  1489. 1:05:24happened and you did except you're being
  1490. 1:05:26playful but no one's having a good day
  1491. 1:05:29no one's loving except you every having
  1492. 1:05:31a good day I'm TR I would hate to see a
  1493. 1:05:34bad
  1494. 1:05:35day yall are making me out
  1495. 1:05:37big person that I'm not nor have or will
  1496. 1:05:42I ever be or are you a different person
  1497. 1:05:44when you're
  1498. 1:05:46drunk people have different
  1499. 1:05:48personalities after they consume alcohol
  1500. 1:05:50it's dep pen it's like it's well cuz
  1501. 1:05:53you're sober now so sober
  1502. 1:05:58you
  1503. 1:06:00not it's both of us it's both of us and
  1504. 1:06:05it's again it's not fair that you all
  1505. 1:06:08are assuming that the marks that he has
  1506. 1:06:11on him are from me we asked you where
  1507. 1:06:13they came from I have no idea well
  1508. 1:06:16nobody else was there so nobody else I
  1509. 1:06:18have no
  1510. 1:06:20idea I swear I did not lay a hand on him
  1511. 1:06:25zip them in the back nor heat you just
  1512. 1:06:27zip them in the bag and then you flip
  1513. 1:06:30the bag around several times I didn't do
  1514. 1:06:33that intentionally you didn't
  1515. 1:06:34intentionally flip the background no why
  1516. 1:06:36would I do that well
  1517. 1:06:38you when he was upside down right but
  1518. 1:06:42you had to put him upside you can't get
  1519. 1:06:44in a suitcase upside down because the oh
  1520. 1:06:47my God
  1521. 1:06:48put and then nobody else is
  1522. 1:06:53there video showing the in several
  1523. 1:06:56different
  1524. 1:06:57positions so it shows one like she just
  1525. 1:07:00said it had to been on its back with the
  1526. 1:07:02lid open for him to get in there you
  1527. 1:07:04just zp it up then it shows it on the
  1528. 1:07:06other side with him in it so you had to
  1529. 1:07:07flip it to there then there's another
  1530. 1:07:10video where it's on it back again so you
  1531. 1:07:12had to I'm leaving it like this please
  1532. 1:07:14I'm leaving it like this I did not
  1533. 1:07:17intentionally do this no malicious
  1534. 1:07:21content or effort was towards this no
  1535. 1:07:25Mal delous I would say you sleep but
  1536. 1:07:28you're not sleeping
  1537. 1:07:30so last night I maybe got an hour right
  1538. 1:07:33in your voice you can hear the
  1539. 1:07:35maliciousness the [ __ ] you it's very
  1540. 1:07:37very you don't talk to people like that
  1541. 1:07:40that's not like a common like hey Scott
  1542. 1:07:42[ __ ] you that's not that's not common
  1543. 1:07:45it's not something people do and no one
  1544. 1:07:47that sees that is going to think that
  1545. 1:07:49okay so we were trying to give you an
  1546. 1:07:52opportunity and and it is what it is
  1547. 1:07:54there's no
  1548. 1:07:55maliciousness towards that I would
  1549. 1:07:58probably be telling myself that my
  1550. 1:08:00intent my intent was not that happen but
  1551. 1:08:05you went upstairs and went to bed or
  1552. 1:08:07maybe you passed out I don't know
  1553. 1:08:09waiting for him and the whole time frame
  1554. 1:08:12thing like regardless that's not really
  1555. 1:08:14Fairless waiting for him you it's not
  1556. 1:08:17like you you walked up the stairs no one
  1557. 1:08:20can you can't fly up the stairs no one
  1558. 1:08:22can take you up there stairs you go up
  1559. 1:08:23the stairs you lay in the bed
  1560. 1:08:26and you wait for him who cares if it's
  1561. 1:08:28five minutes who cares if it's 30
  1562. 1:08:30freaking seconds he's begging for his
  1563. 1:08:33life he's begging to get out you go
  1564. 1:08:36upstairs you leave it doesn't matter so
  1565. 1:08:38it could it get the time frame out of
  1566. 1:08:40your mind this like it doesn't matter it
  1567. 1:08:43doesn't matter
  1568. 1:08:45because there's this so it doesn't
  1569. 1:08:48matter anything what it is I say so it
  1570. 1:08:50makes no difference whatsoever it just
  1571. 1:08:52you keep you're lying and like you're
  1572. 1:08:54not you're now changing
  1573. 1:08:56about what you're now now now you were
  1574. 1:08:58drunk oh I never said that I was drunk
  1575. 1:09:01exactly but you did here
  1576. 1:09:03today that's okay you said earlier
  1577. 1:09:05everything everything work Al you blamed
  1578. 1:09:08it on the alcohol you blamed it on the
  1579. 1:09:09alcohol alcohol does a lot to people yes
  1580. 1:09:11but I never said I was drunk so you did
  1581. 1:09:14this you did this sober you knowingly
  1582. 1:09:17left them down there sober uh I have
  1583. 1:09:20already told both of you also that we
  1584. 1:09:21were both drinking right but you won't
  1585. 1:09:24admit that you were Dr
  1586. 1:09:26I'm telling you all
  1587. 1:09:27both this has changed my life I will
  1588. 1:09:31take
  1589. 1:09:34this I don't know yeah that's your
  1590. 1:09:38statement
  1591. 1:09:41absolutely but you're trying to dance
  1592. 1:09:43around the fact that
  1593. 1:09:47you you left them in there you try
  1594. 1:09:50to this is
  1595. 1:09:52not not it's not cool like this is not
  1596. 1:09:55cool that he dead but you think that I
  1597. 1:09:58did that
  1598. 1:10:00intentionally you think that I did that
  1599. 1:10:03intentionally you intentionally left
  1600. 1:10:04them in there and left the room you went
  1601. 1:10:06upstairs to a different room you
  1602. 1:10:08intentionally did that you you did yes
  1603. 1:10:11because I'm thinking he's going to get
  1604. 1:10:12out okay he get in obviously not when
  1605. 1:10:16somebody's begging for begging saying I
  1606. 1:10:18when you say that but
  1607. 1:10:21you know George though like
  1608. 1:10:26again I thought it was a boy crying wol
  1609. 1:10:28so it was just like what so if your son
  1610. 1:10:30was in there and said I can't breathe
  1611. 1:10:32are you going to open or is is he n so
  1612. 1:10:35he's not you
  1613. 1:10:39know oh you said you would never put
  1614. 1:10:41your son in a suitcase you would only
  1615. 1:10:43put George in there no George got in the
  1616. 1:10:46suitcase and you Z it up not all the way
  1617. 1:10:50and not intentionally to leave him
  1618. 1:10:53there that's what happen
  1619. 1:10:58you keep going away
  1620. 1:11:00from
  1621. 1:11:02happened are you all trying to have me
  1622. 1:11:05admit that like are you trying to have
  1623. 1:11:07me admit that because I will never admit
  1624. 1:11:08it because it's not
  1625. 1:11:10true it's not
  1626. 1:11:12true I'm basically stting as a fact
  1627. 1:11:15that's what
  1628. 1:11:17happen Okay you videotaped him asking to
  1629. 1:11:20be let out you go upstairs so what guys
  1630. 1:11:24so what like
  1631. 1:11:25just I don't know what you want me to
  1632. 1:11:27say other than it was not out of
  1633. 1:11:31maliciousness or
  1634. 1:11:35intentional I don't know what or how I
  1635. 1:11:37can say it I love
  1636. 1:11:40George love him to the St still love
  1637. 1:11:47him love makes you do crazy it doesn't
  1638. 1:11:49do it's not one of those things where
  1639. 1:11:51it's like oh gosh you know what I've
  1640. 1:11:53done enough for you at this point I
  1641. 1:11:55never gave up on him why I'm here today
  1642. 1:11:59I'm still not giving up on
  1643. 1:12:02him I would do anything for him well you
  1644. 1:12:05gave up checking up on
  1645. 1:12:08him oh
  1646. 1:12:14gosh we're simply just trying to go
  1647. 1:12:17through I mean again you gave us a
  1648. 1:12:19completely different story that you
  1649. 1:12:20churched up to this was such a a
  1650. 1:12:23laughting matter it was it was fun
  1651. 1:12:31anybody looking at I don't think anybody
  1652. 1:12:32that video go George is having fun right
  1653. 1:12:35now so why is it you all think that I I
  1654. 1:12:40y'all don't know me don't know me no
  1655. 1:12:44would do something like that especially
  1656. 1:12:45having a 9-year-old
  1657. 1:12:48son like
  1658. 1:12:50why like why are you so why are you so
  1659. 1:12:53like caught on what we say
  1660. 1:12:55when because you should be more
  1661. 1:12:57concerned about what you told us it's
  1662. 1:12:59because you guys are the things that the
  1663. 1:13:02video shows that are opposite of what
  1664. 1:13:04you told us and then what you now like
  1665. 1:13:06what did that
  1666. 1:13:07say well you said that it was funny and
  1667. 1:13:10you're the only one L we were playing
  1668. 1:13:11before that okay um but then it stops
  1669. 1:13:15yeah it obviously stops being fun well I
  1670. 1:13:18because you're screaming at him he's get
  1671. 1:13:21at sounds like screaming at me
  1672. 1:13:25I don't know what you all want to me to
  1673. 1:13:28tell
  1674. 1:13:29you in no way shape or form like it's
  1675. 1:13:33intentional at
  1676. 1:13:35all
  1677. 1:13:37ever okay are you still going to allow
  1678. 1:13:39us to do your
  1679. 1:13:42fingernails all right I'm going to get
  1680. 1:13:44that set
  1681. 1:13:49up do you need no but when you come back
  1682. 1:13:52and I ask about
  1683. 1:13:57[Music]
  1684. 1:13:59so what just don't
  1685. 1:14:02understand so it I don't understand how
  1686. 1:14:05your story changes so much to the how is
  1687. 1:14:07it changing please help me explain
  1688. 1:14:10understand you went on about how this
  1689. 1:14:13was such a playful thing and you guys
  1690. 1:14:14were laughing and it probably was for a
  1691. 1:14:16few minutes but then it obviously
  1692. 1:14:18changes the whole demeanor of this whole
  1693. 1:14:20situation completely changes there's not
  1694. 1:14:23the funny laughing matter he's not
  1695. 1:14:25laughing at all I didn't think he was
  1696. 1:14:28being
  1697. 1:14:29serious you absolutely sound
  1698. 1:14:32serious like just you don't think your
  1699. 1:14:35voice you sounded serious it's okay I I
  1700. 1:14:41don't know what you want me to tell
  1701. 1:14:42you it was a great day okay it didn't
  1702. 1:14:46end well
  1703. 1:14:48obviously uh I
  1704. 1:14:50mean I can't explain to you I can't
  1705. 1:14:53explain to
  1706. 1:14:54you how horrific it was to find him
  1707. 1:14:58horrific because I don't remembering
  1708. 1:15:00this videos how
  1709. 1:15:03horrific I'm thinking he's in the
  1710. 1:15:05bathroom I'm thinking he's downstairs on
  1711. 1:15:07my
  1712. 1:15:08laptop I can't find
  1713. 1:15:13him so what so what's going happen
  1714. 1:15:17here's what gets me though is you don't
  1715. 1:15:20remember taking videos you don't know
  1716. 1:15:21where he is you don't remember him being
  1717. 1:15:23in the in the suitcase and you're still
  1718. 1:15:25telling me that you had your wordss
  1719. 1:15:27about you how about when see that's the
  1720. 1:15:32thing to but you can clearly tell you
  1721. 1:15:35can clearly tell that I had been
  1722. 1:15:37drinking some you can clearly tell I had
  1723. 1:15:41several people that came up to me in
  1724. 1:15:43that apartment complex said that you
  1725. 1:15:44were drunk on a daily
  1726. 1:15:47basis right regularly
  1727. 1:15:50right really right talk to the property
  1728. 1:15:52manager talk to the property manager
  1729. 1:15:54okay
  1730. 1:15:55because did not these are your neighbors
  1731. 1:15:57the one that live next to you your
  1732. 1:15:58property manager does not live next to
  1733. 1:16:00you they see you every
  1734. 1:16:04day what your
  1735. 1:16:06question coming did you finger you said
  1736. 1:16:10that
  1737. 1:16:11[Music]
  1738. 1:16:13we and you don't have to allow us to do
  1739. 1:16:16it just you know so don't that I have
  1740. 1:16:19problem make
  1741. 1:16:22sure so am I getting my phone about it
  1742. 1:16:26no not
  1743. 1:16:27to um what about losing his laptop no
  1744. 1:16:31not
  1745. 1:16:32to what does that mean we're still going
  1746. 1:16:35through everything oh that's fine you're
  1747. 1:16:37the one just telling us there's videos
  1748. 1:16:39that we need to see on it so we need due
  1749. 1:16:41diligence that we go through everything
  1750. 1:16:43see and that backfires on me now too
  1751. 1:16:45because now you all think that I had
  1752. 1:16:47even more in quote intent to do what I
  1753. 1:16:49did then which was not
  1754. 1:16:52intentional and that is that correct
  1755. 1:16:55she's asking about your taging no but
  1756. 1:16:57I'm asking if that's thre no I'm not
  1757. 1:17:00anything that you're saying I'm not that
  1758. 1:17:03you're so his person not there mhm do
  1759. 1:17:07you all inform her or to call her we
  1760. 1:17:10don't need to we don't have to inform
  1761. 1:17:12her so like to call you again are you
  1762. 1:17:15saying because he's still
  1763. 1:17:16probation no but because of the nice
  1764. 1:17:19lady that she is and all that she's done
  1765. 1:17:21for him I thought it I didn't know how
  1766. 1:17:23it was legally we have tell his parents
  1767. 1:17:25and we don't go telling we don't I
  1768. 1:17:28didn't even know who his probation
  1769. 1:17:30officer was so I wouldn't go so the same
  1770. 1:17:32thing for
  1771. 1:17:33classes I need to do that
  1772. 1:17:36too um classes to do what subance class
  1773. 1:17:41and his b
  1774. 1:17:45intervention ask
  1775. 1:17:49so other than
  1776. 1:17:51this so initially what was the cause of
  1777. 1:17:55that she is still pending because she
  1778. 1:17:58wants to hold the body for an additional
  1779. 1:18:01day to see if more of those bruises turn
  1780. 1:18:04into something bigger um and she's doing
  1781. 1:18:09some other tests that she's got to do so
  1782. 1:18:11she's pending it for
  1783. 1:18:13now so and that couldn't have been of
  1784. 1:18:16him being in the
  1785. 1:18:18suitcase or I get it that's what she's
  1786. 1:18:23determining so was on the head I I asked
  1787. 1:18:26her cuz that have been from the suitcase
  1788. 1:18:28and she said she didn't think
  1789. 1:18:30so I didn't touch him nor did he touch
  1790. 1:18:36me I'm goinging at
  1791. 1:18:40that
  1792. 1:18:43um so I don't know if you all know how
  1793. 1:18:46to do this because I so that's what I
  1794. 1:18:48was going to ask you ask so are you all
  1795. 1:18:50updating his parents today or when you
  1796. 1:18:52get final whatever
  1797. 1:18:55what does it matter
  1798. 1:18:56Bo what we tell this parents meing
  1799. 1:18:59because
  1800. 1:19:02I we're going to have we're going to
  1801. 1:19:04talk to with them I have but it's going
  1802. 1:19:07to come down
  1803. 1:19:09me what do you mean like so it's being
  1804. 1:19:13put on me who said that but I'm so what
  1805. 1:19:17tell them we're going to give them an
  1806. 1:19:19update just like we gave you an update
  1807. 1:19:21on their
  1808. 1:19:22off okay so it's whatever here's the
  1809. 1:19:26thing here's the thing we had to deliver
  1810. 1:19:28news to them last night that their son
  1811. 1:19:30was dead there's not a whole lot of
  1812. 1:19:31conversation that goes on after
  1813. 1:19:33that it's not a very easy thing was it
  1814. 1:19:35yesterday or
  1815. 1:19:36Sunday Sunday today's Tuesday
  1816. 1:19:40right did we not meet you
  1817. 1:19:43yesterday we met you
  1818. 1:19:47yesterday I'm just
  1819. 1:19:50asking right did you not meet yesterday
  1820. 1:19:55that a question uh really yeah on
  1821. 1:20:04Monday got it
  1822. 1:20:07perfect so I don't know if I ask you
  1823. 1:20:10guys or how do I find this out other
  1824. 1:20:12than talking to his parent which not
  1825. 1:20:15going to happen you probably a terrible
  1826. 1:20:19do what how do you guys suggest me
  1827. 1:20:22finding out about funeral
  1828. 1:20:26that's not even something that's been
  1829. 1:20:28probably talked about between the family
  1830. 1:20:31that's not something we ask we have no
  1831. 1:20:33way of I've been
  1832. 1:20:36know so it be up to them to make their
  1833. 1:20:39Arrangements of what they want to do she
  1834. 1:20:41just told you this quick just being sold
  1835. 1:20:43last night I'll pretty much be willing
  1836. 1:20:45to wager that they have not even
  1837. 1:20:48considered what they're going to do our
  1838. 1:20:51body can't even be released so I've been
  1839. 1:20:53there with parents grandparents and
  1840. 1:20:56uncles um so I don't know if I have the
  1841. 1:21:01right to or not but like I was going to
  1842. 1:21:02call his former employees whom he really
  1843. 1:21:06cared for and let them
  1844. 1:21:09know you can call whatever you want I
  1845. 1:21:12just don't want to do something that I'm
  1846. 1:21:13not supposed
  1847. 1:21:14to
  1848. 1:21:16um how do I go about getting his um
  1849. 1:21:20weding ring engagement ring is that the
  1850. 1:21:23medical examiner's office it'll come to
  1851. 1:21:25us eventually and it'll be released to
  1852. 1:21:28the next yeah okay I bought it
  1853. 1:21:32for that is a sub issue it was on his
  1854. 1:21:35finger it goes to them they're the ones
  1855. 1:21:37that going to release it we don't have
  1856. 1:21:39any say in now I won't get that
  1857. 1:21:46back so for all of this like how do I
  1858. 1:21:49find out what's what many like what's
  1859. 1:21:51been
  1860. 1:21:52found what do youan
  1861. 1:21:55uh pillow with stain swab of stain from
  1862. 1:21:58pillow suitcase that will be sent off
  1863. 1:22:02to daily department they do their
  1864. 1:22:05touting so and then like whatever
  1865. 1:22:08white Canan with blood and Ne tie with
  1866. 1:22:11blood was from the
  1867. 1:22:15suitcase why would you guys oh you'll
  1868. 1:22:17see it in there the baseball B for Lucas
  1869. 1:22:21and the feet and this is just his phone
  1870. 1:22:25my phone and the
  1871. 1:22:29laptop yeah when anything can be
  1872. 1:22:31released we will release it but we are
  1873. 1:22:33very early in this investigation
  1874. 1:22:35and it's not an overnight process
  1875. 1:22:38unfortunately
  1876. 1:22:40so what's next they going to come and
  1877. 1:22:44swap your fingers no I'm talking about
  1878. 1:22:46like in the long run like what do I need
  1879. 1:22:49like do I need to be doing something or
  1880. 1:22:52like I can't tell you
  1881. 1:22:55I mean like so like
  1882. 1:22:57for like I don't understand like I don't
  1883. 1:23:00know if you guys are just going to like
  1884. 1:23:02because it makes it sound like to me
  1885. 1:23:04like I'm being accused of something that
  1886. 1:23:06was not intentional I'm being accused of
  1887. 1:23:10it and a handful of other things that
  1888. 1:23:12I'm being accused of okay so I don't
  1889. 1:23:15want to be at home with Lucas and you
  1890. 1:23:18guys show
  1891. 1:23:22up so if we're still investigate the
  1892. 1:23:26word I don't know what you want me to
  1893. 1:23:28tell
  1894. 1:23:28you so is there going to be concrete
  1895. 1:23:32whatever it is and then it's like okay
  1896. 1:23:34this is what it is kind of thing or like
  1897. 1:23:36because I've done the whole Court thing
  1898. 1:23:39I've done the whole attorney thing and
  1899. 1:23:42then whatever so if I'm not admitting
  1900. 1:23:45anything about being intentional and I
  1901. 1:23:48killed
  1902. 1:23:52George that's not the situation but it's
  1903. 1:23:55trying to depend on
  1904. 1:23:58me that was not my
  1905. 1:24:02intent but it's trying to depend on me
  1906. 1:24:05so however or whatever it is I need to
  1907. 1:24:07do in order for that to be
  1908. 1:24:09proven then I need to do so which is why
  1909. 1:24:11I'm trying to get my ducks in a
  1910. 1:24:13r so that's why I'm asking what the next
  1911. 1:24:16step is other than me getting my nails
  1912. 1:24:19swapped I mean you want me to tell you
  1913. 1:24:24how to not be accused of a crime is that
  1914. 1:24:27what you're asking like I don't know
  1915. 1:24:29what I'm trying to prepare myself for
  1916. 1:24:30whatever may need to be done so I can I
  1917. 1:24:34stick for
  1918. 1:24:36myself I mean I think you're doing just
  1919. 1:24:38fine you came you talk I just don't want
  1920. 1:24:41you guys to again show up and Luc is in
  1921. 1:24:45the
  1922. 1:24:49house well we did tell you yesterday
  1923. 1:24:52that we don't want to do anything around
  1924. 1:24:53your son why you came to us so I don't
  1925. 1:24:57know why you think that's going to
  1926. 1:24:58change that and Dora may not just show
  1927. 1:25:01it back
  1928. 1:25:02home I'm sorry what matter what me just
  1929. 1:25:05not show up back
  1930. 1:25:07home that's why
  1931. 1:25:09oh he's so happy that I'm staying over
  1932. 1:25:12at the house Le BR like so happy and I'm
  1933. 1:25:15not going back to the house to my house
  1934. 1:25:18for however long I can stay over here
  1935. 1:25:20because of whatever to Glow
  1936. 1:25:22over and again if you don't mind me
  1937. 1:25:25asking so
  1938. 1:25:27for whatever it is you all
  1939. 1:25:30are claiming from the videos which yeah
  1940. 1:25:36it's is that what you're going to tell
  1941. 1:25:38him like his parents it's like oh yeah
  1942. 1:25:40and by the way she
  1943. 1:25:43did did what I mean what would you tell
  1944. 1:25:46him I don't think it really matter what
  1945. 1:25:48we're going to tell the parents oh it is
  1946. 1:25:50it's FAL to the
  1947. 1:25:52fire well we can't hide things and I
  1948. 1:25:56don't know I'm not saying we're going to
  1949. 1:26:00go I'm not saying that we're going to go
  1950. 1:26:03and tell them every single thing we have
  1951. 1:26:06um but again this is the orange fin sh
  1952. 1:26:10office as public record So eventually
  1953. 1:26:12like this all will come out so it like
  1954. 1:26:16I'm not you're making it sound like
  1955. 1:26:18we're going to tell them something so
  1956. 1:26:20then your life is in danger and I don't
  1957. 1:26:23like that
  1958. 1:26:24[Music]
  1959. 1:26:25so let's just nip that in the butt right
  1960. 1:26:28now well that's what's going to
  1961. 1:26:31happen I
  1962. 1:26:33cannot but we can't even but so teally
  1963. 1:26:37there's no
  1964. 1:26:38concrete report yet even right so so
  1965. 1:26:42it's you want me to like tell you I'm
  1966. 1:26:46I'm I don't know what I'm going to tell
  1967. 1:26:47them let's just leave that just like you
  1968. 1:26:49don't know why you went upstairs I don't
  1969. 1:26:50know what I'm going to tell them so
  1970. 1:26:53dealing with can can I call you the way
  1971. 1:26:55that I did last
  1972. 1:26:57time yeah my phone
  1973. 1:27:03is should
  1974. 1:27:08be I get it look I get
  1975. 1:27:15it that looks really
  1976. 1:27:19bad so that's what scares me like what
  1977. 1:27:22do I need to plan on like what do I need
  1978. 1:27:25to plan
  1979. 1:27:26on I promise you on my son's
  1980. 1:27:30life it was not
  1981. 1:27:33intentional I promise you on Lucas's
  1982. 1:27:37life it was not
  1983. 1:27:39intentional I don't know you I can't say
  1984. 1:27:42I know anything about you I don't know
  1985. 1:27:44what is what would be a true statement
  1986. 1:27:47what what not I mean you're promising on
  1987. 1:27:49your son's life that's fine that's how
  1988. 1:27:51much it
  1989. 1:27:52means sry
  1990. 1:27:54that's how much look that's how much it
  1991. 1:27:59means I hope you take that to heart
  1992. 1:28:07please docent I you said that yeah I get
  1993. 1:28:15it do you have any idea when I can get
  1994. 1:28:18my phone
  1995. 1:28:21back what' you say I just
  1996. 1:28:24I mean our digital un is um got a lot of
  1997. 1:28:29cases on plate I mean well and that's
  1998. 1:28:32not try to say my laptop it's L's laptop
  1999. 1:28:34but he plays you'll see all the games
  2000. 1:28:36that he has on
  2001. 1:28:38there as soon as we can get that back to
  2002. 1:28:40lcas we will as soon as we can releas
  2003. 1:28:42your phone we will but there's we have
  2004. 1:28:45no way of being able to tell you because
  2005. 1:28:46we don't have control over their case Lo
  2006. 1:28:49and how they they arrange what they do
  2007. 1:28:51so I don't know and at this point I
  2008. 1:28:53think honestly with everything el else
  2009. 1:28:55that's going on that should probably be
  2010. 1:28:57at the bottom of your list of
  2011. 1:29:00words I'm trying to make L ATT so he can
  2012. 1:29:02have his
  2013. 1:29:06laptop does not have a laptop for him he
  2014. 1:29:10has his laptop that he has to do for
  2015. 1:29:13work but he doesn't want him using it or
  2016. 1:29:15breaking or
  2017. 1:29:23dropping it's not a big deal there's
  2018. 1:29:25nothing on the laptop
  2019. 1:29:41anyway so you will keep me posted like
  2020. 1:29:49updated that's my thing is I'm trying to
  2021. 1:29:51figure out what I need to do in the
  2022. 1:29:53meantime
  2023. 1:29:56I don't know I can't like I don't know
  2024. 1:29:58what to tell you though like what am I
  2025. 1:30:01what but do you all have more
  2026. 1:30:04information than I do where it yeah you
  2027. 1:30:06might want to or yeah you might want
  2028. 1:30:08to like we have more information on what
  2029. 1:30:12like we told you everything that we have
  2030. 1:30:14you know everything that we
  2031. 1:30:16know and most of we got from
  2032. 1:30:19you but uh
  2033. 1:30:24I was telling her
  2034. 1:30:26like yeah that's bad like which I store
  2035. 1:30:32in my son's life was
  2036. 1:30:34unintentional so that's why I'm trying
  2037. 1:30:37to figure out what I need to do for
  2038. 1:30:41myself going forward with it nonetheless
  2039. 1:30:45with his
  2040. 1:30:47family and are you all just showing up
  2041. 1:30:50with L is
  2042. 1:30:52M we've already both
  2043. 1:30:54we be mindful within your
  2044. 1:31:11situations so do guys I guess you're
  2045. 1:31:13going to call me
  2046. 1:31:14tomorrow or do we have to come back down
  2047. 1:31:17here I'll chot with you next
  2048. 1:31:21time I have no idea what I'm going to
  2049. 1:31:23call you
  2050. 1:31:26uh doesn't the report come out
  2051. 1:31:30F I'm just saying the report is
  2052. 1:31:32generated through us and the sheriff's
  2053. 1:31:34office is a public entity so if someone
  2054. 1:31:36were to come request something then no
  2055. 1:31:38I'm talking about um aling she's waiting
  2056. 1:31:42and doing more followup but she's
  2057. 1:31:44looking at yeah but she won't be
  2058. 1:31:47finished with him because she's she's
  2059. 1:31:49pending for other stuff
  2060. 1:31:56so after this
  2061. 1:31:59what I'm done for
  2062. 1:32:15now how long does this St take to get
  2063. 1:32:20back you won't get back the slabs and
  2064. 1:32:23stuff
  2065. 1:32:26say all know about
  2066. 1:32:34it sorry we just by I keeps calling my
  2067. 1:32:38phone I keep having have other people
  2068. 1:32:41call see what they
  2069. 1:32:49need I hope you all can really both
  2070. 1:32:51truly understand that that was not my
  2071. 1:32:53inent
  2072. 1:32:56I miss him a
  2073. 1:32:59lot
  2074. 1:33:02mean but my question has remained the
  2075. 1:33:06same what do you expect to happen to
  2076. 1:33:09somebody when you leave on your
  2077. 1:33:14position yes but you have to understand
  2078. 1:33:16too I just what would you expect to
  2079. 1:33:20happen to somebody when you leave them
  2080. 1:33:23in a position no idea because I've never
  2081. 1:33:24done it
  2082. 1:33:27before why have you never done it before
  2083. 1:33:30why would I
  2084. 1:33:32exactly why didn't I do it before why
  2085. 1:33:35did you do it
  2086. 1:33:37now
  2087. 1:33:39I I clearly have said why
  2088. 1:33:44why no you don't know why you you just
  2089. 1:33:47know that it's not intentional but you
  2090. 1:33:49don't know why but that's okay
  2091. 1:33:54really I'm not trying to force you to
  2092. 1:33:55say something that you don't
  2093. 1:34:02know feing and Penning
  2094. 1:34:36fact that you guys would assume that I'm
  2095. 1:34:37that kind of
  2096. 1:34:39person we not assuming anything we're
  2097. 1:34:41going by the it
  2098. 1:34:45happen like you said you don't know me
  2099. 1:34:50[Music]
  2100. 1:35:19what Happ that place 4 4
  2101. 1:35:52and so for me to have to live
  2102. 1:35:56with getting him out and doing what I
  2103. 1:35:59did
  2104. 1:36:01is
  2105. 1:36:09punishment I think that's why I haven't
  2106. 1:36:11slept CU that's all I
  2107. 1:36:15see so that said something
  2108. 1:36:23[Music]
  2109. 1:36:31not my attention
  2110. 1:36:45[Music]
  2111. 1:37:09nonetheless I have to live without him
  2112. 1:37:12now
  2113. 1:37:15nonetheless punishment
  2114. 1:37:25definely a tragic
  2115. 1:37:36situation I'm unfortunate
  2116. 1:37:39that stupid things like this
  2117. 1:37:42[Music]
  2118. 1:37:52happen now I have to live it on
  2119. 1:38:02[Music]
  2120. 1:38:04now doll
  2121. 1:38:09too are you trying to make it
  2122. 1:38:13worse sorry what are you trying to make
  2123. 1:38:15it worse make what worse how I feel
  2124. 1:38:24she is fine that was there yesterday I
  2125. 1:38:27think she took your photo
  2126. 1:38:38[Music]
  2127. 1:39:19so I'm just going to take a slab and go
  2128. 1:39:20around on one hand and then sh
  2129. 1:39:24hand
  2130. 1:39:39okay
  2131. 1:39:52right
  2132. 1:40:22for for
  2133. 1:42:08[Applause]
  2134. 1:42:23okay
  2135. 1:42:31[Applause]
  2136. 1:42:36[Music]
  2137. 1:42:54there
  2138. 1:43:52good yeah
  2139. 1:43:57[Music]

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