Sarah Boone Screams at Police During Shocking Interrogation: ‘I Didn’t Kill Him!’ — Transcript
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- 0:00so I'm going to read you your rights
- 0:02again because I we have to talk about
- 0:04that and
- 0:05since talking about the incident we just
- 0:08have to do it just like we did yesterday
- 0:11just like we did yesterday remember I
- 0:12read e the right right yeah just the
- 0:14exact same thing but since I'm asking
- 0:15you followup questions I need to read
- 0:17them to you okay all right so you have
- 0:20the right to remain silent anything you
- 0:22say may be used against in court you
- 0:24have the right to talk to a lawyer
- 0:25before and during questioning without
- 0:26charge if you cannot afford a lawyer and
- 0:28want one one can me for for you before
- 0:30questioning without charge has anyone
- 0:32thre any promised you anything to get
- 0:34you to talk to me no and do you
- 0:36understand why I descried you yes
- 0:37perfect okay so this morning we went to
- 0:41his a team um and we were informed of
- 0:47some injuries that he has um by the
- 0:50doctor so I
- 0:52want um so he's
- 0:55got scratch marks to his
- 0:58back I know that okay and um it's called
- 1:04a contusion do you know what contusion
- 1:05is so like basically you're getting hit
- 1:08and then you know you you get a mark
- 1:10from it you'll get bruising like some
- 1:13someone hate you or something like that
- 1:14it's called a contusion so he had some
- 1:17injuries to his left
- 1:19shoulder um he
- 1:22had um he had a cut near his like lips
- 1:25we could see we could see his um his
- 1:27mouth was a little I
- 1:31okay I also too I he fell off my son's
- 1:34bike okay so I don't know and he's
- 1:37notorious for running into the wall or
- 1:39the hall tree so why okay what what
- 1:43about the
- 1:46scratches there's also sex yes okay cuz
- 1:50there's also like a like a scratch on
- 1:53like the back of his neck like kind of
- 1:55like going but it's like going straight
- 1:58across I have noide that's from and
- 2:01they're all recent like they they they
- 2:03occurred recently it wasn't something
- 2:04that Ur post or that occurred a week ago
- 2:07or two days ago 3 days ago they
- 2:09definitely occurred you know the night
- 2:10leading up to when who was in all
- 2:12honesty all honesty we have not gotten
- 2:15into it okay that's why like the only
- 2:18thing I thought you guys were going to
- 2:19ask me about which I was going to honest
- 2:21with anyway I just scratching his back
- 2:24everything else I have no idea what it
- 2:26is no idea what it is nonetheless had my
- 2:30son over the house too so well your son
- 2:33was there when when was he last there oh
- 2:37gosh understanding he was there like
- 2:39last Tuesday last I don't know if it was
- 2:42Tuesday but yes he was there last week
- 2:45so well we're talking about Sunday we're
- 2:48we're just talking about what occurred
- 2:49Sunday CU like I said the injuries
- 2:52are they occurred within that time
- 2:54period so you're talking about day
- 2:55before yesterday Sunday leading into
- 2:58Monday you called us yesterday at 1 so
- 3:02but the incident you guys were painting
- 3:03and stuff the night prior correct so
- 3:05we're talking about Sunday that's why
- 3:08I'm thoroughly confused because we had a
- 3:12good time sitting on the back porch
- 3:14having wine and smok on a couple of
- 3:16cigarettes and then decided to go inside
- 3:18and literally paint do puzzles and play
- 3:22and listen to music that's
- 3:24why nobody got out of ss this is what
- 3:29mind blowing me like I don't I have no
- 3:32clue nobody laid a hand on anybody he
- 3:35also had um like on the left side of his
- 3:39forehead he had basically
- 3:42bruising um and um on like his head and
- 3:47skull I have no idea as if something hit
- 3:50him I consider touch traa I have not
- 3:55touched him I have not touched him how
- 3:58would you get those in tell me will both
- 4:00know I have not touched him yesterday
- 4:05when we took photographs of your overall
- 4:07body um and they did the bule swabs did
- 4:10they go under your fingernails no okay
- 4:13are you willing to let us absolutely
- 4:15swab underneath your fingernails go for
- 4:17it okay I have no idea and I don't want
- 4:21to seem out of sorts but I have no idea
- 4:25we had a good day MH it was a good day
- 4:29we've had good days lately even
- 4:31considering everything that's going on
- 4:32with our jobs and life in general and ex
- 4:35wives and everything it's been good like
- 4:38I don't even know where this is coming
- 4:41from yeah physical was probably you said
- 4:45I think a month ago where you got the
- 4:48injury right you said that was a few
- 4:51weeks yeah a few weeks that was the last
- 4:53like physical altercation between the
- 4:55two of you um a month ago you hit you
- 4:59with a curtain yeah that's why I can't
- 5:01believe you guys didn't take that
- 5:05either like we've been good I don't know
- 5:08like it's since the last time he got out
- 5:10of jail like we've been good he's been
- 5:13having his classes and his seeing his
- 5:15probation officer who's amazing so what
- 5:19do you mean by good what's your
- 5:20definition of good the probation officer
- 5:23oh no you said you guys have been good
- 5:25what your do I've been good I don't
- 5:28think you all understand he kind comes
- 5:29at me all the time he comes at me so
- 5:33it's either I flee or try to go upstairs
- 5:37and go to sleep that's usually what it
- 5:39is I don't know if you talk to Brian
- 5:40about any of that but most of the time
- 5:42when I flee I go over there
- 5:45so right but you're saying that you guys
- 5:47have been good and when I asked you
- 5:49yesterday there has the last incident
- 5:51that you could remember was the curtain
- 5:53R inent which you said was a month ago
- 5:55so give her T right so what do you mean
- 5:57by he comes after you like he
- 6:00gets belligerant drunk like I don't know
- 6:04if you all have looked through my phone
- 6:05yet and too many of the pictures and the
- 6:07videos that I have taken and the at one
- 6:11point I started documenting everything
- 6:14okay so you all will see in my pictures
- 6:18bloody fingers split foreheads he split
- 6:21my nose I've got this right I don't know
- 6:24Brian told you about it where I had to
- 6:26have almost what I had one really bad
- 6:28surgery but then it got really really
- 6:30really really bad where I had to go like
- 6:32four or five more times afterwards and
- 6:33then attend to it and then put me in the
- 6:35back of the leg right so it's and why
- 6:39are you still with him everybody ask me
- 6:41that when I tell you guys
- 6:45this I really love him like I do and I
- 6:49feel like I can help him like I feel
- 6:51like I could help him which I did
- 6:53because he's come a really he came a
- 6:55really long way from where he was in
- 6:58Philadelphia to moving back here and to
- 7:00deal with everything else that he's been
- 7:01dealing with I've really helped him I've
- 7:04bailed him out of jail what three times
- 7:07I've gone to every single Hearing in
- 7:09every single arraignment everything that
- 7:10I did for him gone to see all his public
- 7:13defenders go to the state I've gone to
- 7:15the state I I did everything for him
- 7:17because I'm trying to help him because I
- 7:18had I had hope in him and he was
- 7:23trying really trying just and then he
- 7:26starts to think about things and it just
- 7:28I think he gets so overwhelmed and then
- 7:30it's like next thing I know is drinking
- 7:32so it's like oh man I know where this is
- 7:35going to go so I'm going to go upstairs
- 7:37read a book or I'm going to go for a
- 7:39bike ride or I'm going to do something
- 7:40else or I don't want to drink I don't
- 7:43want to drink the occasional wine
- 7:46whatever or if it's a weekend that's
- 7:49when you you have a good time you don't
- 7:52have to wake up the next day I have to
- 7:54wake up the next day and do things I
- 7:55have to attend to Lucas I have to take
- 7:57him to school I have all this stuff to
- 7:58do
- 7:59he doesn't know how
- 8:02to I guess maintain himself where I can
- 8:07do 50 things at once and still know the
- 8:0950 things more previously prior that I
- 8:12need to get done he can't process like
- 8:15that he didn't process like that so it
- 8:16he would literally not literally but had
- 8:18SM coming out of his ears so the next
- 8:20thing you know he doesn't want to deal
- 8:22with it I'm going to go get something to
- 8:24drink so the majority of the time I
- 8:27would hang out outside or do something
- 8:29because I don't want to
- 8:31drink and every time every time his job
- 8:36broke his heart and it made me sad
- 8:38because he had so much pride in his job
- 8:41and the store that he took care of so
- 8:44much totally went downhill and that
- 8:48broke his heart because he had put so
- 8:50much work and effort into fixing it up
- 8:52and his manager was
- 8:56awful and basically gave up on all of
- 8:59the employ way so I think that had a
- 9:02huge bearing on why he would drink so
- 9:05much his ex-wife is Bunker she was all
- 9:09over him all the time send me money send
- 9:12me money send me
- 9:14money how can I send you money when I
- 9:16don't have a job and he's still trying
- 9:19to take care of me and lugas by paying a
- 9:22bill here or there getting some
- 9:24groceries so he always had something on
- 9:26his mind which is why again
- 9:30I got the pudles and the bank just try
- 9:32to get him off of it so we don't have a
- 9:34dream or he doesn't have a dram so when
- 9:37you all see my phone you can see all of
- 9:40the damage he has done to me and the
- 9:43videos of him smashing my television
- 9:45because he's belligerant
- 9:48dropped where most of the time I just
- 9:50don't want to beat him and I try to help
- 9:52him I try to come him
- 9:54down eventually he just passed
- 9:57out well yesterday it sound like you
- 10:00guys were just drinking like a glass or
- 10:02two like yeah you obviously had the
- 10:04bottle but you I mean you told me on the
- 10:07yeah but you told me on recording like
- 10:09that you were not drunk he was not drunk
- 10:10you guys were having a good time I don't
- 10:13get I can't get drunk number one I do
- 10:16not want to get drunk I don't like being
- 10:20non- complimented having my wit about
- 10:22myself I don't like feeling out of
- 10:24control
- 10:25mhm so I'm just saying you're you're
- 10:29making it sound like like he's a raging
- 10:31alcoholic today and yesterday I was kind
- 10:33of asking you those questions and you're
- 10:35like a little defensive like no we're
- 10:37not alcoholics he we are not you know
- 10:41but you guys are both sobered on Sunday
- 10:44from your knowledge because when I said
- 10:46you went and passed out you were like no
- 10:48I didn't pass out I just fell asleep so
- 10:50now it's kind of like what is it is were
- 10:53you guys drinking and it got out of hand
- 10:55and it got physical or is it
- 10:59Sunday was one of the better days that
- 11:01we have had in quite some time he's
- 11:04dancing with my dog you can see that too
- 11:07on the pictures him loving the dog he
- 11:10loves the dog and dancing around having
- 11:13a good time and
- 11:14just just being happy kind of
- 11:19thing he doesn't know I can't I mean I
- 11:23can get like maybe two three glasses of
- 11:26wine and I'll be fine but I have to have
- 11:29my about myself because I don't know
- 11:30what to expect well let's talk about
- 11:32Sunday what was Sunday how were you like
- 11:34how many glasses of wine did you have
- 11:36how many glasses of wine did he have the
- 11:38bottle was gone I mean I don't know if
- 11:40you pour it any out yes no that was from
- 11:43previous you said that there was a half
- 11:45bottle left over mhm and then um that
- 11:50you had W well I don't even know how the
- 11:53wine how' you guys get the wine for
- 11:55Sunday I'm guessing he went to public he
- 11:59this does he do the does he like leave
- 12:01the house and you stay home or do you go
- 12:03to public like go okay did you go with
- 12:06him Sunday to public so most of the time
- 12:08what happens is because the convenience
- 12:11store where we get cigarettes is here
- 12:13and then public literally is CAD W do it
- 12:16okay so what he'll do is he'll start go
- 12:18by public and then on the way back catch
- 12:21the convenience store okay so you did
- 12:23Sunday I'm guessing that's what he did
- 12:25because next thing I know he's walking
- 12:27in with L okay so that's
- 12:30it's him trying to be nice so I don't
- 12:32have to go out and do it plus there's
- 12:34stuff that around the house that I had
- 12:35to take care of so that's usually what
- 12:36will happen or I'm folding laundry and
- 12:38he'll go run out and do
- 12:41whatever so where were you guys are
- 12:45on on drunkenness not drunkenness on
- 12:50Sunday I told us you weren't drunk no I
- 12:53was not Dr I was not Dr so with him I
- 12:57don't know
- 13:00I I know when it's like okay man where I
- 13:03have told him slow down it's starting to
- 13:06catch up with you slow down slow down
- 13:09bless you and another thing too is I
- 13:11don't like listening to music with him
- 13:13because he gets too involved in the
- 13:15music and the music that he listen to is
- 13:19little rust around the edges and like
- 13:21just it makes me frous listening to his
- 13:24music so I kept asking him let's not
- 13:27let's just you and me talk you and me
- 13:29will just be the ones that are talking
- 13:31which was fine because I mean we were
- 13:33playing with a dog whatever and then
- 13:34it's like okay Mall let do the painting
- 13:37we just did the puzzle took a break now
- 13:39let's do this sure enough sat down we're
- 13:43sitting in there talking laughing
- 13:44talking about new movies we're watching
- 13:46movie
- 13:48trailers while we're doing painting and
- 13:50all that other stuff so it's still
- 13:51background noise to him because I think
- 13:53that's what he's used to is having
- 13:55background noise for me I can sit in
- 13:57here all day with not a p
- 13:59but he always has to have some kind of
- 14:01background noise which I didn't mind
- 14:02because the trailers were cool and he
- 14:04was interested in showing them to me
- 14:06getting excited about movies that were
- 14:08out or upcoming okay so in your laptop
- 14:11you're talking about and I mean and then
- 14:14we it was you said it was a good day
- 14:17like you guys didn't have any have any
- 14:20uh conversations about your relationship
- 14:22you guys didn't go down like the rabbit
- 14:24hole like had too many to drink and you
- 14:26guys start getting no when I tell you
- 14:28this it made me so happy that he
- 14:31actually listened to what I I had to say
- 14:34was just we'll get through it this will
- 14:37be fine it's just it's it's a small
- 14:40hurdle that you and I together will get
- 14:42through because turn about the money
- 14:47jobs yes nothing relationship wise
- 14:50though like no issues relation like did
- 14:52you guys have a conversation about your
- 14:53relationship or was it just about just
- 14:56what's going on right now got it I tried
- 14:59to evoke it from him
- 15:01so he gets it off his chest because I
- 15:04call him the volcano where eventually
- 15:06he's going to erup right and what he has
- 15:09learned in his classes is to communicate
- 15:12which is a huge thing in a relationship
- 15:14where he has been practicing
- 15:16communication so he actually talks to me
- 15:19about things and unburdens himself put
- 15:22it on me I'll sit there and try and
- 15:24figure it out for you like I have almost
- 15:26everything not a worry just tell me get
- 15:29it out of you but it was when I tell you
- 15:33I was so happy like it was such a good
- 15:36day I kid you not the weather was
- 15:38beautiful outside I'm the one that had
- 15:40him go inside so we can do puzzles and
- 15:43painting listen to music or whatever
- 15:44else he wants to do so then he starts
- 15:47doing whatever it is we're doing
- 15:48together in the living room and then
- 15:52starts talking because I think he gets
- 15:54comfortable with okay you know what
- 15:56we're here it is a good day let me go
- 15:59ahead and explain myself so I know
- 16:02nobody else knows but I
- 16:03know nobody knew George better than I
- 16:06did I say that I need George better than
- 16:10himself and I tried in every way shape
- 16:14and form as
- 16:16everyone I helped him I took care of
- 16:22him I missed him a lot and I didn't even
- 16:25sleep last
- 16:27night I miss him a
- 16:30lot I mean is there any chance it got to
- 16:32be too much for you and you couldn't
- 16:33handle taking care of him and I never
- 16:36sto them I never
- 16:39stopped that's what I'm here
- 16:42for I never stopped I'm here now CU I'm
- 16:46still trying to help it yeah we just
- 16:50don't I mean it's unexplainable how you
- 16:52got these injuries and I had no idea you
- 16:55were the only one with him 100% right
- 16:59hand to God I have no idea how he got
- 17:02them nobody touched anybody nobody
- 17:07touched
- 17:10anybody um you had mentioned that you
- 17:13take uh you would take photos videos
- 17:17kind of like a proof and just in general
- 17:19yeah I hearded documenting at one point
- 17:20but that
- 17:21was that was way before I think the last
- 17:25time that he got arrested where he was
- 17:27flying off the dend
- 17:30but then I had him bailed out I got him
- 17:33out of jail right but because he had
- 17:36violated the pre-trial
- 17:38diversion they this time it's probation
- 17:40so you don't have a choice in it you
- 17:42have to go see your probation officer
- 17:45you have to go to these classes it's
- 17:47court ordered where it took them a while
- 17:49to get used to it and understand they're
- 17:52not missing around I even went down and
- 17:54met his uh probation officer which I say
- 17:57I she's she's wonderful that's one of my
- 17:59questions to need to talk to about
- 18:01hugged me and said how much she knows
- 18:04that I take care of him she called me
- 18:06personally one time when George is at
- 18:08work when he was working 42-minute phone
- 18:11call she and I just saying how grateful
- 18:14she is that George has me and she knows
- 18:17how hard I'm working to help him just as
- 18:20she is and just as the classes will so
- 18:23once he started actually going on a
- 18:25regular basis to the probation officer
- 18:27and then to his
- 18:29sub C's class and his I don't know what
- 18:32VIP stands for B Intervention Program
- 18:35and actually listening to what it is
- 18:37everyone had to say he changed like I
- 18:40could I could see a change in him where
- 18:42before lashing out he would think about
- 18:45it and would always come home and show
- 18:47me his paper and we would look over his
- 18:49papers together it's like wow you
- 18:51actually are learning this in class and
- 18:54some of the stuff that they would show
- 18:55them like videos he would come home and
- 18:58be like St off so sorry for what I've
- 18:59done to you because for a video that he
- 19:03watches to make him feel that way where
- 19:07it's like oh
- 19:09man I have done her
- 19:12wrong but he's changed he
- 19:15changed and that's why you're still with
- 19:17him even though he's done all these
- 19:19things to you and when I tell you I love
- 19:21him I love
- 19:25him and when you have when you love
- 19:28somebody you have
- 19:29everybody tells me that oh my NE you're
- 19:32tell me that the office property manager
- 19:36at some point
- 19:37somebody gets enough then they have to
- 19:40to do something to defend
- 19:42themselves I would just flee and I don't
- 19:45know if you would like to see on my
- 19:47phone or I think it's I think it's
- 19:49actually on a laptop I actually because
- 19:52and you just to understand too I have
- 19:55like prior to classes in po
- 19:59kicked him out how many times I had him
- 20:01arrested how many times but you also
- 20:04went down and bail I know the next day I
- 20:08know what's on your
- 20:09laptop um what I tell
- 20:13you oh previously
- 20:17M I actually looked up how to file a
- 20:19restraining order okay because I would
- 20:22take him out his parents because of them
- 20:26constantly having to take him back in
- 20:28his bags of clothes all his stuff the
- 20:32one time the last time the father came
- 20:34out and I rate and just not even I think
- 20:38I don't even know if he knew Lucas was
- 20:39in the car just opened the back of my
- 20:42car and started throwing all his trrap
- 20:43and throwing it like throwing it like
- 20:45the car would J throwing all this stuff
- 20:48at that point because I continually did
- 20:50it not continually I think I may did it
- 20:53three times and he has nowhere else to
- 20:55go they got fed up and said nope either
- 20:58you're staying there or you're staying
- 20:59here but you're staying here at their
- 21:01place it's permanent you're not going
- 21:04back over there anymore so what happen
- 21:07is he pursues me so I don't know if you
- 21:10all know where Katy way tril is okay so
- 21:13we it's literally right right there from
- 21:16our
- 21:18apartment would ride his bike to work
- 21:21but before he would leave extra early
- 21:23and come up to the wall stand on top of
- 21:25his bike and poke his head over because
- 21:27he would know that I would be outside
- 21:28having my morning cigarette and cup of
- 21:31coffee where and I would also know too
- 21:34what time he would get off of work where
- 21:36I would know come getting all the work
- 21:38you can do the same thing so it's not
- 21:40like I ever got like a break from him
- 21:43where I told you all yesterday or
- 21:45whenever it was I started to feel that
- 21:47it was too much togetherness and when
- 21:49you have too much togetherness friction
- 21:52happens so I'm going to go ride my bik
- 21:55I'm going to go upstairs and read a book
- 21:57but what he every what does he say every
- 22:00waking moment he wants to be with me so
- 22:03and mind you our town home is either
- 22:05upstairs or downstairs so it's like if
- 22:08you would like to sit downstairs and
- 22:10watch a movie or play on the laptop look
- 22:12up some jobs you're more than welcome to
- 22:15I'm just going to be upstairs maybe
- 22:16watching one of my shows or maybe
- 22:17reading a book so and then when that
- 22:20would
- 22:22happen we really needed that so what's
- 22:24for dinner and then we would cook
- 22:27together and E
- 22:29and then crawl on the bed and watch a
- 22:31movie you're talking about this is like
- 22:33recent I you kind of like blost me like
- 22:35what it's like a little while ago now
- 22:38you're talking about now you're talking
- 22:39about tension building up and that you
- 22:40need space so have you been feeling that
- 22:43way lately or no okay
- 22:47no okay my thing is too so you all know
- 22:50oh I hate that you can't talk to her but
- 22:54um D his ex-wife when I say a monster
- 22:57she's a monster like it does she
- 23:00withholds her their children from
- 23:02speaking to him so he gets upset about
- 23:06that and then she like completely Beres
- 23:08him about money about father that he is
- 23:12what he did to her all this other stuff
- 23:14it doesn't matter I mean mind you this
- 23:17is not like good Recon but which is why
- 23:19he doesn't even bother calling anymore
- 23:21because he knows that he's she's going
- 23:22to answer he's going to have to talk to
- 23:23her so therefore he can't talk to his
- 23:25daughter the other time he talked to her
- 23:28made made her talk to cookie that's on
- 23:31my cell phone too so you can see it it
- 23:34doesn't matter like it doesn't
- 23:38matter what does she have to do though
- 23:40with anything about what happen Sunday
- 23:43into Monday like no I'm just saying like
- 23:45previously why the incidents would
- 23:48happen is she plays a big part in it
- 23:51okay onp job and money and groceries and
- 23:55all that okay Sunday I when I tell you
- 23:59this I have no idea I have no idea is
- 24:03there anybody else at the house no it's
- 24:05just me and
- 24:08him
- 24:10um since talking yesterday do you
- 24:12remember any like time timelines better
- 24:15like what
- 24:16time uh you guys were playing what time
- 24:19you he was zipped up in the luggage what
- 24:22time you upstairs we started because we
- 24:25had we cleaned the house a little bit
- 24:27did some laundry you started the
- 24:29activities around 4 you said yes around
- 24:314 4:30ish and then you just said that it
- 24:33was dark when you were playing hi and
- 24:35seek and I'm just curious if you
- 24:36remember but when we were outside that's
- 24:38where we would start and talk about
- 24:41things then eventually I was the one
- 24:43that had him come inside so what time
- 24:46you remember what time that was is what
- 24:47she's
- 24:50asking said you want to you went up to
- 24:53bed around midnight Midnight fell as
- 24:55asleep around
- 24:5612:30ish but those were the only I have
- 24:59so I have four and I have midnight so
- 25:01there's a big gap so I'm just curious
- 25:03like if you recall when you went
- 25:05upstairs to hide in the shower or like
- 25:09when we started to play hide and seek
- 25:11yeah well we went inside probably about
- 25:16but had to death we we were out there
- 25:18too long maybe about
- 25:216ish then talking about from hanging out
- 25:23outside and like M okay well we have two
- 25:26beach chairs that are out there right
- 25:27just enjoy the weather plus it's started
- 25:30to get dark and Nats mosquitoes yeah so
- 25:34let's go inside I don't want to be out
- 25:36here anymore all right let's go so we're
- 25:38doing whatever we did it for a while
- 25:40because that puzzle I don't know if they
- 25:42took it or they saw it um worked on the
- 25:45puzzle again finished it started to
- 25:48paint well started to listen to music
- 25:50for a little bit started to paint uh can
- 25:53we turn the music off no problem started
- 25:56to talk paint whatever
- 26:02maybe gosh that puzzle M probably good
- 26:06hour a half so
- 26:088:00ish is when went to hide
- 26:11upstairs originally no that's when we
- 26:14were like painting so then it's like
- 26:16okay well I we can't I don't want to
- 26:17paint anymore let's just come on okay
- 26:21you want to play hide and seat what he
- 26:22does is okay T your it which like okay
- 26:25we know okay take off mhm that's what we
- 26:28did and then you went upstairs and then
- 26:31he didn't come up and you came down and
- 26:33the suitcase was there originally
- 26:35because you guys were planing to do
- 26:37donations was already there um have you
- 26:40guys ever played the you said you played
- 26:42hide-and-seek like probably three times
- 26:44in your relationship when you have
- 26:46played have you ever zipped him up in a
- 26:48suitcase prior no okay so it was just
- 26:51kind of like that prop was there and it
- 26:53was there and it was in Play Because Why
- 26:56do you say it like that though
- 26:58I would never do that you would never
- 27:01zip them up in a
- 27:03suitcase I mean we were playing but I'm
- 27:06saying well I'm talking about hide and
- 27:08seek which is a game so the suitcase
- 27:11originally is in our closet buried all
- 27:14the way to the back if you I don't I
- 27:17know the CSI people so our closet our
- 27:20closet needs to be cleaned out really
- 27:22bad my son's clothes need to be cleaned
- 27:25out really bad because they don't fit in
- 27:27anymore and I'm tired of looking at
- 27:28so he took it upon himself including
- 27:31that suitcase to take it downstairs so
- 27:34we can get all of our clothes our
- 27:35donations and everything and just lead
- 27:37the whole thing by the clothing and
- 27:40shoothing at my son school no we're just
- 27:44I'm just asking out of the in the past
- 27:46like have have you ever zipped him up in
- 27:49anything jokingly or not but obviously I
- 27:53understand you know you're claiming that
- 27:55Sunday it was a joking matter you realiz
- 27:58was laughing but what I'm just asking is
- 28:00in the past like is it's something that
- 28:01you guys normally do absolutely not
- 28:06okay um we were actually this last game
- 28:09running out of places too high because
- 28:11we have a town home where it's upstairs
- 28:13or downstairs
- 28:15so um okay so do you remember making any
- 28:20videos or maybe having any cover
- 28:23anything any photos videos that you
- 28:26remember doing on your your phone on
- 28:31Sunday no I think I took a picture of a
- 28:35dog okay but your phone is password
- 28:38protected you have the password he has
- 28:40the facial recognition so it's not like
- 28:42someone else could be on your phone no I
- 28:44have both but you have the face and the
- 28:47password yeah but he only has the face
- 28:49correct no to be able to get onto your
- 28:52phone you told me that he looks at the
- 28:54phone oh I misunderstood I thought you
- 28:55were asking if I did yes it's me okay
- 28:58does he have access to your phone cuz
- 28:59you said it's phone okay how does he
- 29:01have access can I your phone yes it's
- 29:04right there on the kitchen counter okay
- 29:05but how did give ITW He he'll come and
- 29:08give it to me I'll just do the face
- 29:09thing where sometimes too like look
- 29:12he'll judge with me and say okay I need
- 29:13to borrow your phone he'll hold it while
- 29:15I'm cooking you're do something do the
- 29:17facial recognition Okay so he doesn't
- 29:19know the password and he doesn't have
- 29:20the facial recognition he is the only
- 29:23other person that would use your phone
- 29:24I'm assuming other well Lucas right but
- 29:27Lucas wasn't there so
- 29:28I great
- 29:31um so do your
- 29:34recollection no videos on Sunday not
- 29:37that I'm aware of okay I me I guess
- 29:41maybe took a picture of them the two of
- 29:43Tess and the dogs and George and have
- 29:47done dancing but I mean or it's just
- 29:51test okay um so I have something that I
- 29:55want to show you that we found um
- 29:58and it was from your phone
- 30:03mhm can you see
- 30:06it you need to move it around go
- 30:17ahead no I don't remember that
- 30:21me for everything you your
- 30:25batter oh okay
- 30:29let
- 30:37me the battery doesn't last very long it
- 30:40used to last a lot longer than that I
- 30:41don't know what happen Okay let me
- 30:49just no I was just simply asking because
- 30:52um you had a look on your face when she
- 30:55asked you if you've ever done that
- 30:56before you look kind of shocked and
- 30:59no okay why did you say it like that
- 31:02like I don't think you all understand
- 31:05who I am where well tell me I mean I've
- 31:08always been a surday student I am an
- 31:11outstanding mother to my son I excel at
- 31:15everything
- 31:18I I would not do that you would not
- 31:21somebody in the
- 31:23suitcase well I didn't like completely
- 31:26like it I mean I don't think it with one
- 31:28finger I left enough in there for us to
- 31:30get
- 31:32out and I wasn't planning on going
- 31:35upstairs and going to
- 31:45sleep no it just the way you said it you
- 31:47guys are scaring me
- 31:49Sor we just want you to watch this it
- 31:51came from your phone don't you want to
- 31:53know what's on it yes
- 31:55[Music]
- 32:11is it long because I don't know how much
- 32:12I can
- 32:17take I don't know how much I can take
- 32:30do I have to watch
- 32:32this I continuously throw up I don't
- 32:35sleep I don't want to see it if that's
- 32:38okay well it's on your
- 32:41phone and you can either explain it or
- 32:44we take it for what it is yeah we're
- 32:46just trying to give you the opportunity
- 32:47to tell us what's going on that's
- 32:52it it's that long 2
- 32:55minutes you guys
- 32:58for everything you got
- 33:01me [ __ ]
- 33:07you that's
- 33:14you
- 33:24my yeah that's when you do show me
- 33:33I don't want to watch it
- 33:37for last last time we talked to you you
- 33:40said that you put him in the suitcase
- 33:42you had two fingers hanging out I fli
- 33:45them
- 33:46over I flipped them over and that's
- 33:49where it was there's two different
- 33:52videos and a still picture where yeah it
- 33:54shows you flipping in different
- 33:56positions and him that he can't breathe
- 33:59and you're saying so this is upside down
- 34:02so in order for him to have gotten into
- 34:04it it would flip up right it was flipped
- 34:07up normal like as if you're packing
- 34:09something so this is upside down guys
- 34:12this is killing me right now so this
- 34:13image is upside down and then this small
- 34:18video that occurred 11 minutes later it
- 34:22splits over the other way closer to your
- 34:26dining room table okay now he's
- 34:28obviously still in there so he didn't
- 34:31how did that how did it go from the back
- 34:33to the front I flied it
- 34:36okay my plan was not to go upstairs and
- 34:39go to
- 34:40sleep well that's what you did but not
- 34:44intentional no you told me you went
- 34:46upstairs because you were ready for bed
- 34:50stop here okay
- 34:51but show me where you can see any
- 34:54fingers coming out cuz there's the end
- 34:57it's in his head's right here so going
- 35:00like this rather than going all the way
- 35:03up it's like
- 35:05this but why is he saying I can't
- 35:08breathe and why is he pushing on it as
- 35:10if he can't get out it doesn't show a
- 35:13hole there's no hole there's no fingers
- 35:15I don't see his fingers there's no hole
- 35:18I don't know what you want me to tell
- 35:19you like I don't know like what you want
- 35:21me to tell you I'm just showing you I'm
- 35:23just telling you what we' see and what
- 35:25we've heard from the other I chance he's
- 35:29begging to let for you to let him out
- 35:32you sound you're laughing in the
- 35:34beginning and then in the end it sounds
- 35:36kind of like a no it's not
- 35:38malicious well saying [ __ ] you it's not
- 35:43malicious that what does [ __ ] you mean
- 35:46to
- 35:47you well like if you were just if I were
- 35:49just tell my like I get told everything
- 35:53by a white woman so okay I my intention
- 35:57was not to leave him in
- 35:59there please understand that my
- 36:01intention was not to leave him in there
- 36:04but you went upstairs thinking that he
- 36:07could get himself out but the video
- 36:10shows Point see his fingers 30 minutes
- 36:15and then 30 minutes later he didn't show
- 36:18and he's tell and iake up do you think
- 36:22you told me he was laughing and I we
- 36:25were first got in there
- 36:28both of us were so how long was he in
- 36:29there for like this video is at 1112
- 36:32when it starts so was he in there for
- 36:34like a long time
- 36:35prior no no so it goes from funny to no
- 36:40longer funny you're the only one
- 36:43laughing but I didn't think that
- 36:45he was like panicky like I didn't I so
- 36:50pushing Up On A Suitcase saying sarah
- 36:53sarah
- 36:54Sarah I can't breathe
- 36:57George has done that in the past before
- 36:59too where it's just like he thinks that
- 37:01he's well with me kind of thing where
- 37:03it's like I he's never been locked in
- 37:04the STC but get up so it's kind of I
- 37:08thought it was the calling wolf crying
- 37:10wolf kind of thing and again my but
- 37:14nowhere in there is he laughing is he
- 37:16joking he is
- 37:18begging and you're the only one laughing
- 37:21okay and you're the only one saying
- 37:24derogatory comments like you're mad no
- 37:28please don't I don't need to sound
- 37:31negative and I don't know if I can say
- 37:33this but like it's like you guys are
- 37:35kind of trying to like feed me like no
- 37:37I'm just trying to show you a video that
- 37:38you no longer want to watch because you
- 37:40probably don't want to know the outcome
- 37:42of how and what you said well I know
- 37:45what you know you know what's on that
- 37:47video now no you remember making that
- 37:48video oh why don't you remember making
- 37:51the video probably because we have been
- 37:53drinking but you weren't
- 37:55drunk just because of went upstairs and
- 37:58just because you're drunk doesn't mean
- 38:00that you times that you were not drunk
- 38:02you said that you had your way you said
- 38:05he had his lips about you you said that
- 38:08you don't like not having your lips in
- 38:11my experience that somebody cannot
- 38:13remember doing something to the extent
- 38:15of making two videos and a video and
- 38:18taking a
- 38:19photo they are in
- 38:21toxicated okay I understand where you
- 38:24all are coming from well makees sense of
- 38:26it we're trying to try to figure out
- 38:29this video to us we're
- 38:31listening I just did like we were
- 38:34playing and then like I thought it
- 38:39was my plan was not to go upstairs and
- 38:42go to sleep my plan was not to he'll be
- 38:45up here any minute but you willingly
- 38:47went upstairs and went to sleep no one
- 38:49forced you to go upstairs and my plan
- 38:51was also to leave him in the suitcase so
- 38:55why didn't you take him out because I
- 38:56went upstairs here and then I fell
- 38:58asleep but why didn't you consciously
- 39:01think he's asking to come out he I
- 39:04didn't do it intentionally what do you
- 39:06think was going to happen if you leave
- 39:07somebody in a confined space like
- 39:10that well I thought by not dipping it up
- 39:13all the way it would be okay my plan was
- 39:16not to leave him in the was
- 39:20plan waiting for him to come
- 39:22upstairs and then when he
- 39:25did I fell asleep you said you were up
- 39:28there 30 minutes after 30 minutes
- 39:30somebody not coming up knowing that you
- 39:33that the last time you saw him was in
- 39:34the C 30 minutes later you're
- 39:37like maybe I should go check on him
- 39:39maybe I shouldn't no when you that
- 39:42didn't cross your mind that's like
- 39:44that's like an assumption like that's
- 39:45what you all are thinking just we're
- 39:48asking it's the whole tell
- 39:51us it's the
- 39:55drinking that's what it is
- 39:58it's the
- 40:00drinking I thought it was like I thought
- 40:03he was okay like I didn't that you he's
- 40:06telling you he's not he's telling you st
- 40:08you can't breathe he's saying your name
- 40:10and you're like that's my name don't
- 40:11wear it out guys that's how we are with
- 40:16each other like he
- 40:19has nobody understands our relationship
- 40:22this the whole suitcase
- 40:24thing never happened before would you
- 40:26leave some someone else in the suitcase
- 40:28would you leave Lucas in the suitcase
- 40:30jokingly because it was a joking matter
- 40:32you put him in there jokingly would you
- 40:33leave Lucas jokingly in there and you
- 40:35love Lucas right and you I would do that
- 40:37to him pet I wouldn't do that to him so
- 40:41I I just well sound like again I don't
- 40:43think you all understand like
- 40:46it's I mean it's not my that was not my
- 40:50intention y don't have any idea what I
- 40:54but by your AC and that's exactly right
- 40:56you get to to the point where you've
- 40:57done so much for somebody and they don't
- 40:59show you any appreciation he
- 41:03did not by by your words in the video I
- 41:07don't get that because you bring up the
- 41:09fact that when he's choking you you
- 41:11can't breathe that's how you felt when
- 41:13he cheated on you you couldn't breathe
- 41:16and you verbally several times told him
- 41:18just [ __ ]
- 41:20you play the rest you don't want when I
- 41:23say cheating it's on his phone
- 41:27cheating is cheating I think so too
- 41:30exactly it's your definition of cheating
- 41:32though so I mean that's what the word
- 41:34cheat means and that's what you told him
- 41:36in the video that I couldn't breathe
- 41:38when you cheated on
- 41:40me no that how I felt when he said Sarah
- 41:43I can't
- 41:44breathe and you told I don't know
- 41:47to this
- 41:49is what would you say somebody told you
- 41:52that they had done this done what you
- 41:55said somebody in the suitcase and went
- 41:57up what about do you all not think so
- 41:59you all think that it's like oh good I
- 42:00got them in there now I'm going to go to
- 42:02sleep is that what you guys are trying
- 42:04to assume or trying to like we're just
- 42:08the
- 42:10video is very portraying of the opposite
- 42:13of what you told us it is not it is not
- 42:17leading up it is not matching what
- 42:20statement you gave us in the car so and
- 42:23that's why we want to know and I don't
- 42:25doing this the injuries are not
- 42:28consistent with what you've told us so
- 42:31we have a lot of
- 42:32inconsistencies and this
- 42:35video explains itself it really truly
- 42:39does do you don't think that I have
- 42:41thought
- 42:42of thought about the video or thought
- 42:44about but no again if you don't mind
- 42:47please so you all are assuming that it's
- 42:50like oh good I got him in there now I'm
- 42:52going to go to sleep is that what you
- 42:54all are saying well it's not an
- 42:56assumption when that's you told us that
- 42:58happened that's and the
- 43:02video I
- 43:04mean I'm not going to
- 43:07say you thought he could get out on
- 43:10his but the video shows that he can not
- 43:12get out on his own but I but when I
- 43:15inist it I it with one finger from the
- 43:18outside but it had the hole in
- 43:22it and you're claiming that it had a
- 43:24paper flip so that's what assisted you
- 43:26in doing it no what you told us when I
- 43:28had my sweatshirt I said I thought it
- 43:31had a paper clip on it it's got but the
- 43:33zipper part is broken that's yes which
- 43:35is why we were going to
- 43:37it I I just you were able to enip it
- 43:40from the outside very easily because
- 43:42that's the way they're designed but you
- 43:44could on the inside
- 43:45too I don't know how so why wouldn't he
- 43:48have gotten k out if he could I don't
- 43:50know I don't know if you saw like where
- 43:52the hole was I don't know no the
- 43:58that's what I'm saying like he's in one
- 44:00position and where his head would be we
- 44:03should be able to see fingers and then
- 44:05when it flips over onto this right side
- 44:08again his head is closer to us facing
- 44:10the video so we should be able to see
- 44:11fingers and we don't see anything we see
- 44:13no movement of him trying to undip it or
- 44:16physically UND dipping it all we see is
- 44:17pushing up trying to push out of it
- 44:21please do not assume I'm not assuming I
- 44:25change anything I follow evidence but my
- 44:27intention was not again oh good I got
- 44:30him in there now I'm just going to go to
- 44:32sleep what do you think someone that
- 44:34knows nothing about this or he's just a
- 44:37little bit like oh they were playing
- 44:38around in a and
- 44:42then that's what happened but you let
- 44:45him out before I me you put him in so
- 44:46why didn't you take him out because I
- 44:48was upstairs and I fell asleep no before
- 44:51you went upstairs you like consciously
- 44:53had to walk upstairs I mean you
- 44:55obviously remember going to bed because
- 44:56you to give me a Ham on that and you
- 44:59told me that that
- 45:01you my intention is not for this to
- 45:06happen I am sick about
- 45:10it I've never done anything like this
- 45:13before in the past I am
- 45:17sick especially with that I thought I
- 45:19couldn't sleep last
- 45:21night I don't well here's the thing you
- 45:25tell us last night you you did remember
- 45:27this when you told us last night that he
- 45:30was laughing you were laughing you put
- 45:32him in the suitcase he has two fingers
- 45:33sticking out and you go to bed now we
- 45:36see something totally different and it
- 45:38actually shows you upset and again using
- 45:42uh derogatory terms to him when he's
- 45:45begging for his leg to get out of that
- 45:47suitcase so say we're assuming we're not
- 45:50assuming but the thing but so it just
- 45:53happened to be that whenever I was
- 45:55videotaping or doing whatever else it
- 45:56was had just happened and not have that
- 45:58in it
- 45:59okay and you also in the video you can't
- 46:02see any holes there's nowhere in that
- 46:05where the zipper separates and you can
- 46:06see a hole if there's a hole he's
- 46:08pushing on it begging you to get out we
- 46:11should probably see that that that hole
- 46:14he event would have been able to get out
- 46:16alcohol based on what you're telling us
- 46:18he should have been able to get out but
- 46:19the
- 46:20video shows him attempting to get out
- 46:23begging to get out and he can't so
- 46:25that's that's just what we're trying to
- 46:26figure figure out I don't know if maybe
- 46:28you had too much to drink you dipped it
- 46:30up all the way and then you know I did
- 46:31not dip it up all the
- 46:34way I did not zip it up all the
- 46:39way this is horrific okay horrific it is
- 46:44Terri
- 46:46horrific I don't think I'll ever be
- 46:49right because of this ever be right
- 46:51dealing with everything else that I have
- 46:53in my life personally and then this
- 46:57whom I
- 47:00loved it was not
- 47:03intentional I will put my hand on the
- 47:05Bible it was not
- 47:08intentional I would not do that to him
- 47:10nor anyone else but you
- 47:13did not intentional you intentionally
- 47:17went up to bed I intentionally go to bed
- 47:20I got being it
- 47:22okay how did you not intentionally go to
- 47:25bed you said you went up upstairs and
- 47:27got into bed that's intentionally going
- 47:28to bed waiting for him and he doesn't
- 47:32come but you don't go down to check on
- 47:33him so I happen to go to sleep when I
- 47:36say go to sleep and what you do what you
- 47:39normally do when you go to bed what do
- 47:40you mean what is the bed
- 47:42for going to sleep right so you go
- 47:45obiously can tell you that like
- 47:48I'm
- 47:51okay you kept telling us hey I wasn't
- 47:54intoxicated I wasn't this I wasn't that
- 47:57being drunk and intoxicated
- 48:01which then you can tell that I have been
- 48:03drinking but okay so if you weren't
- 48:07intoxicated then why would you ever
- 48:09leave somebody in a suitcase that's
- 48:11begging to get out that's telling you
- 48:13they can't bre if I weren't if I hadn't
- 48:15been drinking you you still think it
- 48:18would be the same thing where it's like
- 48:19hop in I'm going to go to
- 48:22sleep is that what you all are trying to
- 48:25do to portray me to do anything I'm
- 48:28simply asking you to explain to me what
- 48:32happened everything was fine and
- 48:37dandy fine and dandy was fine and dandy
- 48:41you want know okay for for me to tell
- 48:44you this
- 48:45again mind you I've been without him for
- 48:48a day
- 48:52now I
- 48:54don't know
- 48:58I I I mean I don't know what you all
- 49:00want me to tell you because this was not
- 49:03in any way shape or form hand on the
- 49:06bital intentional okay so you just I
- 49:09didn't kill him you left him there to
- 49:12see I didn't mean to leave him there
- 49:15that's what I'm trying to tell you you
- 49:17got up and walked away how was that not
- 49:19intentionally leaving him there because
- 49:20I'm looking at the hole knowing that
- 49:22it's it's
- 49:23there he'll get out no PP because he
- 49:27doesn't but you don't go check on
- 49:29him you say you're up for 30 minutes and
- 49:32he doesn't come up you don't go down and
- 49:34check on him I'm in the bed you even
- 49:37moved you moved you admit to moving the
- 49:41suitcase like over so roll it you roll
- 49:44it up like it's not like I didn't want
- 49:46they be like
- 49:48that don't you didn't want him to be
- 49:50upside down how do you get down
- 49:57you guys are killing me right now I just
- 50:00want you
- 50:01to that's how he talk to me most the
- 50:10time I don't know how I don't know how
- 50:15you want me to say it I'm just trying to
- 50:17figure out what you would expect to
- 50:20happen to somebody when you leave them
- 50:21in a su I didn't mean to leave him in
- 50:24there okay what's your reasoning for um
- 50:28not calling 911 to because I didn't know
- 50:31what to do and how horrific it
- 50:34was I called Ryan and like what five
- 50:36minutes later I called you guys not even
- 50:39five minutes nonetheless that I had to
- 50:41like try I was trying to do
- 50:43CPR I was trying to do CPR I had to get
- 50:46him
- 50:47out and try to do
- 50:50CPR and then call you guys and then was
- 50:54continually doing CPR with the dispatch
- 50:57on the phone where he had me count out
- 51:00loud to help me focus on what I was
- 51:09doing it
- 51:11just I don't know
- 51:14how I mean you you can sit here all day
- 51:18long and say I thought he was going to
- 51:19get himself out but
- 51:21that he didn't and you went
- 51:25upstairs and you stayed there for 30
- 51:27minutes before you fell to sleep how but
- 51:30can I say too like you chose not to ever
- 51:32at any point during that 30 minutes walk
- 51:34back down and check on him no wait one
- 51:37second because I know like with you all
- 51:39and then like if you continually ask me
- 51:42like time frames time frames time frames
- 51:44where I told you like I don't bother
- 51:46even looking at the clock most of the
- 51:47time so it's like a guate so I for all I
- 51:50know that was maybe it was 10 minutes
- 51:53okay but the point is you left the
- 51:56living room where he was begging for
- 51:58help and went upstairs regardless of how
- 52:02long you were there you left you say he
- 52:04was the calling wolf again okay so when
- 52:09he asked to be let out like what's your
- 52:12reasoning for not letting him out when I
- 52:14was upstairs no when he's asking on the
- 52:16video he asked multiple times he asked
- 52:18to be let out I can't breathe what like
- 52:20why didn't you let him
- 52:22out well number one I number one I had
- 52:26no idea it's going to end like that okay
- 52:28number one okay uh number two just you
- 52:33know what I'll give you five minutes so
- 52:35in there that's they'll give you five
- 52:37minutes or so five minutes for
- 52:41what well based off the video One video
- 52:44is at 11:12 and the next one's at 11:23
- 52:47so you actually gave him at least 11
- 52:48minutes per video recording so my my
- 52:51thing is when it stopped he asked
- 52:54multiple times I mean why why did not
- 52:56let him out it's just a simple question
- 52:59to be honest with you I I
- 53:01mean were you
- 53:04punishing no just well that's what
- 53:06you're saying in the
- 53:08video this is what you get this is what
- 53:11you make me feel like see and then it's
- 53:13all backfired on me like it's all
- 53:16backfired on me and I understand the
- 53:17severity of this I just you don't it's
- 53:20awful I know
- 53:22okay it's awful
- 53:27and I will tell you both this right now
- 53:29too I will never drink alcohol again
- 53:32like I will never drink alcohol again I
- 53:34don't care what it is in any way shape
- 53:36or
- 53:37form let's get back to this what was the
- 53:41reason for leaving him when he's begging
- 53:43to be let out I don't understand that
- 53:45what I have a feeling was and again it's
- 53:47the whole time frame thing you go I'm
- 53:49not asking time frame I don't care about
- 53:51a time frame he's in the bag saying I
- 53:54and I my God you say Fu you when he so
- 53:58like for like the whole few minutes that
- 54:00he was in there like I minimum 11
- 54:09but one
- 54:12video well in between those two
- 54:15videos yeah so what the question again
- 54:19when he's begging for his life telling
- 54:20you he can't breathe let me out and you
- 54:23say [ __ ] you why don't you just let him
- 54:25out what are you
- 54:33there was OB something in your head that
- 54:34you were thinking of when he was asking
- 54:36to let be let out you're like again it's
- 54:39the boy calling
- 54:41wolf okay but where do where does this
- 54:44game end I don't you say this is a game
- 54:47you got obviously like the wrong
- 54:49way so what was your intention for
- 54:52leaving them in there and it's not fair
- 54:54it is not fair you you guys are trying
- 54:58to again oh he's in there night
- 55:02night that's what
- 55:04happened that's absolutely what
- 55:07happened how's it not you got up off the
- 55:10couch walked up the FL up stairs and got
- 55:13in your bed thinking he was going to get
- 55:15out and he didn't and you still didn't
- 55:17go down and it's the Whole 30 minute
- 55:19thing that you guys are trying to do
- 55:20whatever like for all I know 10 minutes
- 55:23he's begging for his wife telling you we
- 55:25can't breath I don't know you want me to
- 55:26tell you like I
- 55:28don't I didn't intentionally mean for
- 55:32this to happen you why you left him in
- 55:36there and went
- 55:38upstairs that's my only issue like what
- 55:40am I supposed to write what do I write
- 55:41so my thing as though it's what I have a
- 55:44feeling is I went upstairs and just hit
- 55:47the bed kind of thing but again I'm
- 55:50thinking he'll be up here in a
- 55:53minute but then I go out but my question
- 55:57is why didn't you just let him out prior
- 55:59to going out I don't know
- 56:01why he's begging to be let out he's not
- 56:04laughing he's not having fun this you
- 56:07said you said this was supposed to be
- 56:09fun you were laughing before before you
- 56:11said he was laughing you were laughing
- 56:13you went upstairs he had his fingers out
- 56:15of the bag and he was playing but
- 56:16obviously that's not the case so are you
- 56:19guys so what is it you're trying to like
- 56:22let you turn to your
- 56:24why why what why what was the motivation
- 56:28for leaving in the bag why you left in
- 56:30the bag why I didn't have any motivation
- 56:33it was me he and I having a great day
- 56:37fooling around being stupid and
- 56:39apparently me going upstairs and going
- 56:42hit in the bed not going to sleep where
- 56:45it's like I'm tired now I'm going to go
- 56:47to sleep that's that's excluding you
- 56:49know it's a good analogy for the day
- 56:50excluding the fact that he's got uh a
- 56:53bump on the back of his head a bump on
- 56:54the front of his head and his lip as
- 56:56and he has
- 56:58a I don't know what you all want me to
- 57:00tell you like this is not fair at all at
- 57:06all yes that you all are assuming that
- 57:08that's from me where else did I come
- 57:11from if you were say it's opposite you
- 57:13were in a suitcase and you're asking to
- 57:15be let out would you hope that that
- 57:18person would let you out like you're
- 57:20asking to be let out Su should they not
- 57:22let you
- 57:24out eventually
- 57:26I'm guessing I mean I
- 57:29don't I'm blaming it on the
- 57:31Wi on
- 57:34the so you guys are like assuming that
- 57:38you keep saying we're assuming we're not
- 57:39we haven't assumed anything but you guys
- 57:42are
- 57:43assuming that that's what I did no by
- 57:49what the facts of what happened we got
- 57:51there you said you pulled him out of the
- 57:53suitcase you said you went up you went
- 57:55to bed we're not assuming that these are
- 57:57the facts that you're telling us like oh
- 58:00I'm tired oh I'm tired well that's what
- 58:02you told me on a t record statement
- 58:04yesterday because when I said oh you
- 58:06went upstairs and passed out you were
- 58:08like no I did not pass out you got
- 58:10attitude with me because you were assent
- 58:12you thought I was assuming that you were
- 58:14drunk so that's that's an assumption
- 58:16that was an assumption when I said you
- 58:17passed out and guess what you corrected
- 58:19me you very adamant about the fact that
- 58:22both of you had your we what's your
- 58:23favorite word you use com
- 58:28Ved you've used it today too to say that
- 58:31you guys were within your within your
- 58:33WBS there's two two empty bottles of
- 58:36wine no but you drink both of them I
- 58:40think you did we didn't there's receipts
- 58:42for this they were both purchased
- 58:44yesterday so I don't know how you didn't
- 58:46because they weren't there the day
- 58:48before public receipts from
- 58:51yesterday only thing purchased on either
- 58:54one was a single bottle of wine two them
- 58:57so we have each bottle of wine that was
- 58:58empty in your garbage can that you
- 59:00purchased yesterday or he purchased but
- 59:02you do what it consumed
- 59:05together okay well I is receip so it's
- 59:09not even
- 59:10worth so this
- 59:14is so I don't know what you guys
- 59:18are I don't I don't know we were just
- 59:21hoping that we can figure out why you
- 59:24what was the motivation there was no
- 59:25motivation
- 59:28wow but we're watching a video that
- 59:30after talking to you everything was
- 59:33laughing and fun now we're watching a
- 59:35video where it's not laughing and fun
- 59:37he's begging for his life and you are in
- 59:39a very angry voice telling him to [ __ ]
- 59:42off no yes that's absolutely what it was
- 59:46it's not an assumption the video is
- 59:48there we played it for
- 59:50you so you guys think that I
- 59:55intentionally you you got up off theou
- 59:58walked or walked up the stairs and got
- 1:00:00in the bed that was intentional there's
- 1:00:03no way getting around that you
- 1:00:05intentionally did that nobody drugged
- 1:00:07you up there you didn't float up damn
- 1:00:09stairs okay well it's not fair it's not
- 1:00:11fair that you guys keep trying to say
- 1:00:14that that's what I
- 1:00:16did I don't know what saying you told us
- 1:00:20that you didn't go
- 1:00:22upstairs again there was a hole in
- 1:00:26suitcase I exi it from the hole with one
- 1:00:29finger well the damn hole didn't do him
- 1:00:31no good
- 1:00:33did but he could push it open no
- 1:00:37he the video him pushing up if he could
- 1:00:41push it open why would he have gotten
- 1:00:42out himself why would he beg you to open
- 1:00:44it you he can't
- 1:00:46[Music]
- 1:00:47breathe okay if someone can do something
- 1:00:50for themselves they're going to do it
- 1:00:51they don't need assistance unless they
- 1:00:53need assistance why would he and start
- 1:00:56cuz he couldn't cuz it was all the way
- 1:00:59this it
- 1:01:01wasn't I intentionally didn't do it that
- 1:01:04I intentionally did not
- 1:01:06do inally do what zip it all the
- 1:01:11way he nor I nor that's why you two
- 1:01:16didn't lay hands on each other no
- 1:01:19no I don't have anything you're right he
- 1:01:23doesn't whatever that is whatever this
- 1:01:26whatever it is see this is what happened
- 1:01:29it's not fair that you guys just because
- 1:01:32he has those automatically blame it on
- 1:01:34me like well what about when you had you
- 1:01:37your injuries and he gets arrested is
- 1:01:39that not fair really like really exact
- 1:01:42same thing really he has injuries you
- 1:01:45have injuries like what does that mean I
- 1:01:47don't have any injuries because he and I
- 1:01:50have not been at it with one another so
- 1:01:53every time that you guys fight you you
- 1:01:54both hit each other so you should have
- 1:01:56probably gone to jail all those times
- 1:01:57that he went to jail for domestic well
- 1:01:59the one time I
- 1:02:01did but he completely
- 1:02:04completely trashed the police report CU
- 1:02:09that's nothing what happened because the
- 1:02:10reason why I got taken was because my
- 1:02:12story was different than
- 1:02:14his so I'm being portrayed as like
- 1:02:18this
- 1:02:20abuser we're not saying that he doesn't
- 1:02:22abuse you absolutely we not saying so
- 1:02:25I'm the one that portrayed
- 1:02:28I because I have never dealt with
- 1:02:31anything like this before I don't know
- 1:02:33what to do how to do it and I always
- 1:02:35know what to do and how to do
- 1:02:37it this I don't know so I don't know
- 1:02:40like what's going on or
- 1:02:44like we are simply trying to find out as
- 1:02:47well again we got one side of the story
- 1:02:51you're telling us we're going with what
- 1:02:53you're saying but then we find stuff
- 1:02:55that negates what you're telling us and
- 1:02:57I only remember good that
- 1:02:59okay you're telling us that we're
- 1:03:01assuming stuff but what we're simply
- 1:03:03doing telling you what we saw in the
- 1:03:05video and what you told I understand
- 1:03:07because I don't remember that okay
- 1:03:11doesn't mean it didn't happen just
- 1:03:12because you don't remember
- 1:03:13it so is the texting thing something
- 1:03:16about me like what's the
- 1:03:20one texting oh no I'm texting so
- 1:03:25you guys are scaring me so like I don't
- 1:03:27know like what to expect going I hi
- 1:03:29questions of things that need to be
- 1:03:31taken care of like I don't okay you left
- 1:03:33them in the bag when he's begging you
- 1:03:34saying I can't breathe let me out and
- 1:03:37you said [ __ ] you and you got up off the
- 1:03:39couch and went upstairs and left him in
- 1:03:41that
- 1:03:42bag not
- 1:03:45intention again I would never do that to
- 1:03:48George you did not
- 1:03:52intentionally know that I don't know
- 1:03:56that you got up and you went up to death
- 1:04:00alcohol is a shitty
- 1:04:04thing it's
- 1:04:06alcohol not the reason that
- 1:04:12you you all please sit down listen to me
- 1:04:15pleas you all
- 1:04:19listen I did
- 1:04:23not not intend intentionally kill
- 1:04:28him so your in I don't know what it is I
- 1:04:31need to do or how to do it or what to
- 1:04:34say or how to say it but your but what
- 1:04:36was your intention everyone knows
- 1:04:38everyone knows everything that I've done
- 1:04:41for George and loved him and
- 1:04:42continuously helped him throughout his
- 1:04:44life with me and made him a happier
- 1:04:48better person everybody has everyone
- 1:04:50knows that everybody has so it's like
- 1:04:53okay so while we're in a good place
- 1:04:55right now I'm going to snap that while
- 1:04:58we're in a good place right
- 1:05:00now absolutely I got you on video
- 1:05:02screaming [ __ ]
- 1:05:04you this is what it feels like when
- 1:05:06you're choking me this is what it feels
- 1:05:08like which was however long
- 1:05:11ago you said vide from last mon
- 1:05:16clearly there's still feelings towards
- 1:05:18it you wouldn't say it if you didn't
- 1:05:20feel it but I would never do that but it
- 1:05:24happened and you did except you're being
- 1:05:26playful but no one's having a good day
- 1:05:29no one's loving except you every having
- 1:05:31a good day I'm TR I would hate to see a
- 1:05:34bad
- 1:05:35day yall are making me out
- 1:05:37big person that I'm not nor have or will
- 1:05:42I ever be or are you a different person
- 1:05:44when you're
- 1:05:46drunk people have different
- 1:05:48personalities after they consume alcohol
- 1:05:50it's dep pen it's like it's well cuz
- 1:05:53you're sober now so sober
- 1:05:58you
- 1:06:00not it's both of us it's both of us and
- 1:06:05it's again it's not fair that you all
- 1:06:08are assuming that the marks that he has
- 1:06:11on him are from me we asked you where
- 1:06:13they came from I have no idea well
- 1:06:16nobody else was there so nobody else I
- 1:06:18have no
- 1:06:20idea I swear I did not lay a hand on him
- 1:06:25zip them in the back nor heat you just
- 1:06:27zip them in the bag and then you flip
- 1:06:30the bag around several times I didn't do
- 1:06:33that intentionally you didn't
- 1:06:34intentionally flip the background no why
- 1:06:36would I do that well
- 1:06:38you when he was upside down right but
- 1:06:42you had to put him upside you can't get
- 1:06:44in a suitcase upside down because the oh
- 1:06:47my God
- 1:06:48put and then nobody else is
- 1:06:53there video showing the in several
- 1:06:56different
- 1:06:57positions so it shows one like she just
- 1:07:00said it had to been on its back with the
- 1:07:02lid open for him to get in there you
- 1:07:04just zp it up then it shows it on the
- 1:07:06other side with him in it so you had to
- 1:07:07flip it to there then there's another
- 1:07:10video where it's on it back again so you
- 1:07:12had to I'm leaving it like this please
- 1:07:14I'm leaving it like this I did not
- 1:07:17intentionally do this no malicious
- 1:07:21content or effort was towards this no
- 1:07:25Mal delous I would say you sleep but
- 1:07:28you're not sleeping
- 1:07:30so last night I maybe got an hour right
- 1:07:33in your voice you can hear the
- 1:07:35maliciousness the [ __ ] you it's very
- 1:07:37very you don't talk to people like that
- 1:07:40that's not like a common like hey Scott
- 1:07:42[ __ ] you that's not that's not common
- 1:07:45it's not something people do and no one
- 1:07:47that sees that is going to think that
- 1:07:49okay so we were trying to give you an
- 1:07:52opportunity and and it is what it is
- 1:07:54there's no
- 1:07:55maliciousness towards that I would
- 1:07:58probably be telling myself that my
- 1:08:00intent my intent was not that happen but
- 1:08:05you went upstairs and went to bed or
- 1:08:07maybe you passed out I don't know
- 1:08:09waiting for him and the whole time frame
- 1:08:12thing like regardless that's not really
- 1:08:14Fairless waiting for him you it's not
- 1:08:17like you you walked up the stairs no one
- 1:08:20can you can't fly up the stairs no one
- 1:08:22can take you up there stairs you go up
- 1:08:23the stairs you lay in the bed
- 1:08:26and you wait for him who cares if it's
- 1:08:28five minutes who cares if it's 30
- 1:08:30freaking seconds he's begging for his
- 1:08:33life he's begging to get out you go
- 1:08:36upstairs you leave it doesn't matter so
- 1:08:38it could it get the time frame out of
- 1:08:40your mind this like it doesn't matter it
- 1:08:43doesn't matter
- 1:08:45because there's this so it doesn't
- 1:08:48matter anything what it is I say so it
- 1:08:50makes no difference whatsoever it just
- 1:08:52you keep you're lying and like you're
- 1:08:54not you're now changing
- 1:08:56about what you're now now now you were
- 1:08:58drunk oh I never said that I was drunk
- 1:09:01exactly but you did here
- 1:09:03today that's okay you said earlier
- 1:09:05everything everything work Al you blamed
- 1:09:08it on the alcohol you blamed it on the
- 1:09:09alcohol alcohol does a lot to people yes
- 1:09:11but I never said I was drunk so you did
- 1:09:14this you did this sober you knowingly
- 1:09:17left them down there sober uh I have
- 1:09:20already told both of you also that we
- 1:09:21were both drinking right but you won't
- 1:09:24admit that you were Dr
- 1:09:26I'm telling you all
- 1:09:27both this has changed my life I will
- 1:09:31take
- 1:09:34this I don't know yeah that's your
- 1:09:38statement
- 1:09:41absolutely but you're trying to dance
- 1:09:43around the fact that
- 1:09:47you you left them in there you try
- 1:09:50to this is
- 1:09:52not not it's not cool like this is not
- 1:09:55cool that he dead but you think that I
- 1:09:58did that
- 1:10:00intentionally you think that I did that
- 1:10:03intentionally you intentionally left
- 1:10:04them in there and left the room you went
- 1:10:06upstairs to a different room you
- 1:10:08intentionally did that you you did yes
- 1:10:11because I'm thinking he's going to get
- 1:10:12out okay he get in obviously not when
- 1:10:16somebody's begging for begging saying I
- 1:10:18when you say that but
- 1:10:21you know George though like
- 1:10:26again I thought it was a boy crying wol
- 1:10:28so it was just like what so if your son
- 1:10:30was in there and said I can't breathe
- 1:10:32are you going to open or is is he n so
- 1:10:35he's not you
- 1:10:39know oh you said you would never put
- 1:10:41your son in a suitcase you would only
- 1:10:43put George in there no George got in the
- 1:10:46suitcase and you Z it up not all the way
- 1:10:50and not intentionally to leave him
- 1:10:53there that's what happen
- 1:10:58you keep going away
- 1:11:00from
- 1:11:02happened are you all trying to have me
- 1:11:05admit that like are you trying to have
- 1:11:07me admit that because I will never admit
- 1:11:08it because it's not
- 1:11:10true it's not
- 1:11:12true I'm basically stting as a fact
- 1:11:15that's what
- 1:11:17happen Okay you videotaped him asking to
- 1:11:20be let out you go upstairs so what guys
- 1:11:24so what like
- 1:11:25just I don't know what you want me to
- 1:11:27say other than it was not out of
- 1:11:31maliciousness or
- 1:11:35intentional I don't know what or how I
- 1:11:37can say it I love
- 1:11:40George love him to the St still love
- 1:11:47him love makes you do crazy it doesn't
- 1:11:49do it's not one of those things where
- 1:11:51it's like oh gosh you know what I've
- 1:11:53done enough for you at this point I
- 1:11:55never gave up on him why I'm here today
- 1:11:59I'm still not giving up on
- 1:12:02him I would do anything for him well you
- 1:12:05gave up checking up on
- 1:12:08him oh
- 1:12:14gosh we're simply just trying to go
- 1:12:17through I mean again you gave us a
- 1:12:19completely different story that you
- 1:12:20churched up to this was such a a
- 1:12:23laughting matter it was it was fun
- 1:12:31anybody looking at I don't think anybody
- 1:12:32that video go George is having fun right
- 1:12:35now so why is it you all think that I I
- 1:12:40y'all don't know me don't know me no
- 1:12:44would do something like that especially
- 1:12:45having a 9-year-old
- 1:12:48son like
- 1:12:50why like why are you so why are you so
- 1:12:53like caught on what we say
- 1:12:55when because you should be more
- 1:12:57concerned about what you told us it's
- 1:12:59because you guys are the things that the
- 1:13:02video shows that are opposite of what
- 1:13:04you told us and then what you now like
- 1:13:06what did that
- 1:13:07say well you said that it was funny and
- 1:13:10you're the only one L we were playing
- 1:13:11before that okay um but then it stops
- 1:13:15yeah it obviously stops being fun well I
- 1:13:18because you're screaming at him he's get
- 1:13:21at sounds like screaming at me
- 1:13:25I don't know what you all want to me to
- 1:13:28tell
- 1:13:29you in no way shape or form like it's
- 1:13:33intentional at
- 1:13:35all
- 1:13:37ever okay are you still going to allow
- 1:13:39us to do your
- 1:13:42fingernails all right I'm going to get
- 1:13:44that set
- 1:13:49up do you need no but when you come back
- 1:13:52and I ask about
- 1:13:57[Music]
- 1:13:59so what just don't
- 1:14:02understand so it I don't understand how
- 1:14:05your story changes so much to the how is
- 1:14:07it changing please help me explain
- 1:14:10understand you went on about how this
- 1:14:13was such a playful thing and you guys
- 1:14:14were laughing and it probably was for a
- 1:14:16few minutes but then it obviously
- 1:14:18changes the whole demeanor of this whole
- 1:14:20situation completely changes there's not
- 1:14:23the funny laughing matter he's not
- 1:14:25laughing at all I didn't think he was
- 1:14:28being
- 1:14:29serious you absolutely sound
- 1:14:32serious like just you don't think your
- 1:14:35voice you sounded serious it's okay I I
- 1:14:41don't know what you want me to tell
- 1:14:42you it was a great day okay it didn't
- 1:14:46end well
- 1:14:48obviously uh I
- 1:14:50mean I can't explain to you I can't
- 1:14:53explain to
- 1:14:54you how horrific it was to find him
- 1:14:58horrific because I don't remembering
- 1:15:00this videos how
- 1:15:03horrific I'm thinking he's in the
- 1:15:05bathroom I'm thinking he's downstairs on
- 1:15:07my
- 1:15:08laptop I can't find
- 1:15:13him so what so what's going happen
- 1:15:17here's what gets me though is you don't
- 1:15:20remember taking videos you don't know
- 1:15:21where he is you don't remember him being
- 1:15:23in the in the suitcase and you're still
- 1:15:25telling me that you had your wordss
- 1:15:27about you how about when see that's the
- 1:15:32thing to but you can clearly tell you
- 1:15:35can clearly tell that I had been
- 1:15:37drinking some you can clearly tell I had
- 1:15:41several people that came up to me in
- 1:15:43that apartment complex said that you
- 1:15:44were drunk on a daily
- 1:15:47basis right regularly
- 1:15:50right really right talk to the property
- 1:15:52manager talk to the property manager
- 1:15:54okay
- 1:15:55because did not these are your neighbors
- 1:15:57the one that live next to you your
- 1:15:58property manager does not live next to
- 1:16:00you they see you every
- 1:16:04day what your
- 1:16:06question coming did you finger you said
- 1:16:10that
- 1:16:11[Music]
- 1:16:13we and you don't have to allow us to do
- 1:16:16it just you know so don't that I have
- 1:16:19problem make
- 1:16:22sure so am I getting my phone about it
- 1:16:26no not
- 1:16:27to um what about losing his laptop no
- 1:16:31not
- 1:16:32to what does that mean we're still going
- 1:16:35through everything oh that's fine you're
- 1:16:37the one just telling us there's videos
- 1:16:39that we need to see on it so we need due
- 1:16:41diligence that we go through everything
- 1:16:43see and that backfires on me now too
- 1:16:45because now you all think that I had
- 1:16:47even more in quote intent to do what I
- 1:16:49did then which was not
- 1:16:52intentional and that is that correct
- 1:16:55she's asking about your taging no but
- 1:16:57I'm asking if that's thre no I'm not
- 1:17:00anything that you're saying I'm not that
- 1:17:03you're so his person not there mhm do
- 1:17:07you all inform her or to call her we
- 1:17:10don't need to we don't have to inform
- 1:17:12her so like to call you again are you
- 1:17:15saying because he's still
- 1:17:16probation no but because of the nice
- 1:17:19lady that she is and all that she's done
- 1:17:21for him I thought it I didn't know how
- 1:17:23it was legally we have tell his parents
- 1:17:25and we don't go telling we don't I
- 1:17:28didn't even know who his probation
- 1:17:30officer was so I wouldn't go so the same
- 1:17:32thing for
- 1:17:33classes I need to do that
- 1:17:36too um classes to do what subance class
- 1:17:41and his b
- 1:17:45intervention ask
- 1:17:49so other than
- 1:17:51this so initially what was the cause of
- 1:17:55that she is still pending because she
- 1:17:58wants to hold the body for an additional
- 1:18:01day to see if more of those bruises turn
- 1:18:04into something bigger um and she's doing
- 1:18:09some other tests that she's got to do so
- 1:18:11she's pending it for
- 1:18:13now so and that couldn't have been of
- 1:18:16him being in the
- 1:18:18suitcase or I get it that's what she's
- 1:18:23determining so was on the head I I asked
- 1:18:26her cuz that have been from the suitcase
- 1:18:28and she said she didn't think
- 1:18:30so I didn't touch him nor did he touch
- 1:18:36me I'm goinging at
- 1:18:40that
- 1:18:43um so I don't know if you all know how
- 1:18:46to do this because I so that's what I
- 1:18:48was going to ask you ask so are you all
- 1:18:50updating his parents today or when you
- 1:18:52get final whatever
- 1:18:55what does it matter
- 1:18:56Bo what we tell this parents meing
- 1:18:59because
- 1:19:02I we're going to have we're going to
- 1:19:04talk to with them I have but it's going
- 1:19:07to come down
- 1:19:09me what do you mean like so it's being
- 1:19:13put on me who said that but I'm so what
- 1:19:17tell them we're going to give them an
- 1:19:19update just like we gave you an update
- 1:19:21on their
- 1:19:22off okay so it's whatever here's the
- 1:19:26thing here's the thing we had to deliver
- 1:19:28news to them last night that their son
- 1:19:30was dead there's not a whole lot of
- 1:19:31conversation that goes on after
- 1:19:33that it's not a very easy thing was it
- 1:19:35yesterday or
- 1:19:36Sunday Sunday today's Tuesday
- 1:19:40right did we not meet you
- 1:19:43yesterday we met you
- 1:19:47yesterday I'm just
- 1:19:50asking right did you not meet yesterday
- 1:19:55that a question uh really yeah on
- 1:20:04Monday got it
- 1:20:07perfect so I don't know if I ask you
- 1:20:10guys or how do I find this out other
- 1:20:12than talking to his parent which not
- 1:20:15going to happen you probably a terrible
- 1:20:19do what how do you guys suggest me
- 1:20:22finding out about funeral
- 1:20:26that's not even something that's been
- 1:20:28probably talked about between the family
- 1:20:31that's not something we ask we have no
- 1:20:33way of I've been
- 1:20:36know so it be up to them to make their
- 1:20:39Arrangements of what they want to do she
- 1:20:41just told you this quick just being sold
- 1:20:43last night I'll pretty much be willing
- 1:20:45to wager that they have not even
- 1:20:48considered what they're going to do our
- 1:20:51body can't even be released so I've been
- 1:20:53there with parents grandparents and
- 1:20:56uncles um so I don't know if I have the
- 1:21:01right to or not but like I was going to
- 1:21:02call his former employees whom he really
- 1:21:06cared for and let them
- 1:21:09know you can call whatever you want I
- 1:21:12just don't want to do something that I'm
- 1:21:13not supposed
- 1:21:14to
- 1:21:16um how do I go about getting his um
- 1:21:20weding ring engagement ring is that the
- 1:21:23medical examiner's office it'll come to
- 1:21:25us eventually and it'll be released to
- 1:21:28the next yeah okay I bought it
- 1:21:32for that is a sub issue it was on his
- 1:21:35finger it goes to them they're the ones
- 1:21:37that going to release it we don't have
- 1:21:39any say in now I won't get that
- 1:21:46back so for all of this like how do I
- 1:21:49find out what's what many like what's
- 1:21:51been
- 1:21:52found what do youan
- 1:21:55uh pillow with stain swab of stain from
- 1:21:58pillow suitcase that will be sent off
- 1:22:02to daily department they do their
- 1:22:05touting so and then like whatever
- 1:22:08white Canan with blood and Ne tie with
- 1:22:11blood was from the
- 1:22:15suitcase why would you guys oh you'll
- 1:22:17see it in there the baseball B for Lucas
- 1:22:21and the feet and this is just his phone
- 1:22:25my phone and the
- 1:22:29laptop yeah when anything can be
- 1:22:31released we will release it but we are
- 1:22:33very early in this investigation
- 1:22:35and it's not an overnight process
- 1:22:38unfortunately
- 1:22:40so what's next they going to come and
- 1:22:44swap your fingers no I'm talking about
- 1:22:46like in the long run like what do I need
- 1:22:49like do I need to be doing something or
- 1:22:52like I can't tell you
- 1:22:55I mean like so like
- 1:22:57for like I don't understand like I don't
- 1:23:00know if you guys are just going to like
- 1:23:02because it makes it sound like to me
- 1:23:04like I'm being accused of something that
- 1:23:06was not intentional I'm being accused of
- 1:23:10it and a handful of other things that
- 1:23:12I'm being accused of okay so I don't
- 1:23:15want to be at home with Lucas and you
- 1:23:18guys show
- 1:23:22up so if we're still investigate the
- 1:23:26word I don't know what you want me to
- 1:23:28tell
- 1:23:28you so is there going to be concrete
- 1:23:32whatever it is and then it's like okay
- 1:23:34this is what it is kind of thing or like
- 1:23:36because I've done the whole Court thing
- 1:23:39I've done the whole attorney thing and
- 1:23:42then whatever so if I'm not admitting
- 1:23:45anything about being intentional and I
- 1:23:48killed
- 1:23:52George that's not the situation but it's
- 1:23:55trying to depend on
- 1:23:58me that was not my
- 1:24:02intent but it's trying to depend on me
- 1:24:05so however or whatever it is I need to
- 1:24:07do in order for that to be
- 1:24:09proven then I need to do so which is why
- 1:24:11I'm trying to get my ducks in a
- 1:24:13r so that's why I'm asking what the next
- 1:24:16step is other than me getting my nails
- 1:24:19swapped I mean you want me to tell you
- 1:24:24how to not be accused of a crime is that
- 1:24:27what you're asking like I don't know
- 1:24:29what I'm trying to prepare myself for
- 1:24:30whatever may need to be done so I can I
- 1:24:34stick for
- 1:24:36myself I mean I think you're doing just
- 1:24:38fine you came you talk I just don't want
- 1:24:41you guys to again show up and Luc is in
- 1:24:45the
- 1:24:49house well we did tell you yesterday
- 1:24:52that we don't want to do anything around
- 1:24:53your son why you came to us so I don't
- 1:24:57know why you think that's going to
- 1:24:58change that and Dora may not just show
- 1:25:01it back
- 1:25:02home I'm sorry what matter what me just
- 1:25:05not show up back
- 1:25:07home that's why
- 1:25:09oh he's so happy that I'm staying over
- 1:25:12at the house Le BR like so happy and I'm
- 1:25:15not going back to the house to my house
- 1:25:18for however long I can stay over here
- 1:25:20because of whatever to Glow
- 1:25:22over and again if you don't mind me
- 1:25:25asking so
- 1:25:27for whatever it is you all
- 1:25:30are claiming from the videos which yeah
- 1:25:36it's is that what you're going to tell
- 1:25:38him like his parents it's like oh yeah
- 1:25:40and by the way she
- 1:25:43did did what I mean what would you tell
- 1:25:46him I don't think it really matter what
- 1:25:48we're going to tell the parents oh it is
- 1:25:50it's FAL to the
- 1:25:52fire well we can't hide things and I
- 1:25:56don't know I'm not saying we're going to
- 1:26:00go I'm not saying that we're going to go
- 1:26:03and tell them every single thing we have
- 1:26:06um but again this is the orange fin sh
- 1:26:10office as public record So eventually
- 1:26:12like this all will come out so it like
- 1:26:16I'm not you're making it sound like
- 1:26:18we're going to tell them something so
- 1:26:20then your life is in danger and I don't
- 1:26:23like that
- 1:26:24[Music]
- 1:26:25so let's just nip that in the butt right
- 1:26:28now well that's what's going to
- 1:26:31happen I
- 1:26:33cannot but we can't even but so teally
- 1:26:37there's no
- 1:26:38concrete report yet even right so so
- 1:26:42it's you want me to like tell you I'm
- 1:26:46I'm I don't know what I'm going to tell
- 1:26:47them let's just leave that just like you
- 1:26:49don't know why you went upstairs I don't
- 1:26:50know what I'm going to tell them so
- 1:26:53dealing with can can I call you the way
- 1:26:55that I did last
- 1:26:57time yeah my phone
- 1:27:03is should
- 1:27:08be I get it look I get
- 1:27:15it that looks really
- 1:27:19bad so that's what scares me like what
- 1:27:22do I need to plan on like what do I need
- 1:27:25to plan
- 1:27:26on I promise you on my son's
- 1:27:30life it was not
- 1:27:33intentional I promise you on Lucas's
- 1:27:37life it was not
- 1:27:39intentional I don't know you I can't say
- 1:27:42I know anything about you I don't know
- 1:27:44what is what would be a true statement
- 1:27:47what what not I mean you're promising on
- 1:27:49your son's life that's fine that's how
- 1:27:51much it
- 1:27:52means sry
- 1:27:54that's how much look that's how much it
- 1:27:59means I hope you take that to heart
- 1:28:07please docent I you said that yeah I get
- 1:28:15it do you have any idea when I can get
- 1:28:18my phone
- 1:28:21back what' you say I just
- 1:28:24I mean our digital un is um got a lot of
- 1:28:29cases on plate I mean well and that's
- 1:28:32not try to say my laptop it's L's laptop
- 1:28:34but he plays you'll see all the games
- 1:28:36that he has on
- 1:28:38there as soon as we can get that back to
- 1:28:40lcas we will as soon as we can releas
- 1:28:42your phone we will but there's we have
- 1:28:45no way of being able to tell you because
- 1:28:46we don't have control over their case Lo
- 1:28:49and how they they arrange what they do
- 1:28:51so I don't know and at this point I
- 1:28:53think honestly with everything el else
- 1:28:55that's going on that should probably be
- 1:28:57at the bottom of your list of
- 1:29:00words I'm trying to make L ATT so he can
- 1:29:02have his
- 1:29:06laptop does not have a laptop for him he
- 1:29:10has his laptop that he has to do for
- 1:29:13work but he doesn't want him using it or
- 1:29:15breaking or
- 1:29:23dropping it's not a big deal there's
- 1:29:25nothing on the laptop
- 1:29:41anyway so you will keep me posted like
- 1:29:49updated that's my thing is I'm trying to
- 1:29:51figure out what I need to do in the
- 1:29:53meantime
- 1:29:56I don't know I can't like I don't know
- 1:29:58what to tell you though like what am I
- 1:30:01what but do you all have more
- 1:30:04information than I do where it yeah you
- 1:30:06might want to or yeah you might want
- 1:30:08to like we have more information on what
- 1:30:12like we told you everything that we have
- 1:30:14you know everything that we
- 1:30:16know and most of we got from
- 1:30:19you but uh
- 1:30:24I was telling her
- 1:30:26like yeah that's bad like which I store
- 1:30:32in my son's life was
- 1:30:34unintentional so that's why I'm trying
- 1:30:37to figure out what I need to do for
- 1:30:41myself going forward with it nonetheless
- 1:30:45with his
- 1:30:47family and are you all just showing up
- 1:30:50with L is
- 1:30:52M we've already both
- 1:30:54we be mindful within your
- 1:31:11situations so do guys I guess you're
- 1:31:13going to call me
- 1:31:14tomorrow or do we have to come back down
- 1:31:17here I'll chot with you next
- 1:31:21time I have no idea what I'm going to
- 1:31:23call you
- 1:31:26uh doesn't the report come out
- 1:31:30F I'm just saying the report is
- 1:31:32generated through us and the sheriff's
- 1:31:34office is a public entity so if someone
- 1:31:36were to come request something then no
- 1:31:38I'm talking about um aling she's waiting
- 1:31:42and doing more followup but she's
- 1:31:44looking at yeah but she won't be
- 1:31:47finished with him because she's she's
- 1:31:49pending for other stuff
- 1:31:56so after this
- 1:31:59what I'm done for
- 1:32:15now how long does this St take to get
- 1:32:20back you won't get back the slabs and
- 1:32:23stuff
- 1:32:26say all know about
- 1:32:34it sorry we just by I keeps calling my
- 1:32:38phone I keep having have other people
- 1:32:41call see what they
- 1:32:49need I hope you all can really both
- 1:32:51truly understand that that was not my
- 1:32:53inent
- 1:32:56I miss him a
- 1:32:59lot
- 1:33:02mean but my question has remained the
- 1:33:06same what do you expect to happen to
- 1:33:09somebody when you leave on your
- 1:33:14position yes but you have to understand
- 1:33:16too I just what would you expect to
- 1:33:20happen to somebody when you leave them
- 1:33:23in a position no idea because I've never
- 1:33:24done it
- 1:33:27before why have you never done it before
- 1:33:30why would I
- 1:33:32exactly why didn't I do it before why
- 1:33:35did you do it
- 1:33:37now
- 1:33:39I I clearly have said why
- 1:33:44why no you don't know why you you just
- 1:33:47know that it's not intentional but you
- 1:33:49don't know why but that's okay
- 1:33:54really I'm not trying to force you to
- 1:33:55say something that you don't
- 1:34:02know feing and Penning
- 1:34:36fact that you guys would assume that I'm
- 1:34:37that kind of
- 1:34:39person we not assuming anything we're
- 1:34:41going by the it
- 1:34:45happen like you said you don't know me
- 1:34:50[Music]
- 1:35:19what Happ that place 4 4
- 1:35:52and so for me to have to live
- 1:35:56with getting him out and doing what I
- 1:35:59did
- 1:36:01is
- 1:36:09punishment I think that's why I haven't
- 1:36:11slept CU that's all I
- 1:36:15see so that said something
- 1:36:23[Music]
- 1:36:31not my attention
- 1:36:45[Music]
- 1:37:09nonetheless I have to live without him
- 1:37:12now
- 1:37:15nonetheless punishment
- 1:37:25definely a tragic
- 1:37:36situation I'm unfortunate
- 1:37:39that stupid things like this
- 1:37:42[Music]
- 1:37:52happen now I have to live it on
- 1:38:02[Music]
- 1:38:04now doll
- 1:38:09too are you trying to make it
- 1:38:13worse sorry what are you trying to make
- 1:38:15it worse make what worse how I feel
- 1:38:24she is fine that was there yesterday I
- 1:38:27think she took your photo
- 1:38:38[Music]
- 1:39:19so I'm just going to take a slab and go
- 1:39:20around on one hand and then sh
- 1:39:24hand
- 1:39:39okay
- 1:39:52right
- 1:40:22for for
- 1:42:08[Applause]
- 1:42:23okay
- 1:42:31[Applause]
- 1:42:36[Music]
- 1:42:54there
- 1:43:52good yeah
- 1:43:57[Music]
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