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2:01commentate I will be commentating yes
2:04commentating it's interesting because
2:06watching myself on my own channel I'm
2:08like you know I have like my own
2:09production going on here which is kind
2:11of crappy production seeing myself in
2:13like good production I'm like uh okay I
2:16need to fix some things
2:18so that's good you learn you learn you
2:22learn uh Michelle demattis has not
2:25watched me in a while but is watching
2:26from Annapolis Maryland you got your
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2:30get my braces off right after I came
2:32back from my vacation you know my
2:35vacation the Dominican Republic I think
2:37I came back uh early may like May 2nd or
2:403rd something like that I don't remember
2:42exactly maybe May 4th or 5th something
2:43like that anyway I was on vacation in
2:45Dominican Republic it was the last time
2:47I was gonna be with my braces because my
2:49braces were coming right off the Friday
2:51that I was there like while I was in the
2:54Dr in Punta Cana which was a great
2:56vacation by the way
2:58um the Friday that I was there
3:01um I had my hearing in the Davis case
3:04where I was a defendant where she was
3:07suing me if you guys are interested I
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3:13it is over three hours long but as if
3:16you know my channel we have some videos
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3:37um yeah I really enjoyed Dominican
3:39Republic guys it was a great trip but it
3:42was just kind of like it's always going
3:43to be in my mind as like I had a court
3:45hearing while I was there I got my
3:47braces off right afterwards I went with
3:49my good girl friend Amy who we have gone
3:52on several trips together she's like my
3:55traveling buddy we just had such a good
3:57time it was such a great trip and it
3:58also had a lot of very very memorable
4:01moments child
4:03very memorable moment so if you want to
4:06see about how I was a criminal not
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4:42has always been great
4:43um I hope that you're feeling better
4:44because I know that you weren't feeling
4:45good before listen we here at the lawyer
4:48Chiclets we know each other we talk to
4:50each other we remember each other and so
4:52you know I always have my Chiclets best
4:55interest in mind so I hope that if you
4:57if you can stick around because this is
4:59something that's relaxing for you then
5:00do that but if you can't because you
5:01need to step away take time for yourself
5:03please do that as well do not feel
5:05obligated to stick around here if you're
5:07not feeling well
5:09whoa guys I am sore I've been in the gym
5:13okay I've been doing it again and I've
5:16been consistent for two weeks now two
5:18weeks of being very very consistent
5:20today is a rest day even though I have
5:22on this like windbreaker that I got for
5:25exercise I didn't actually go anywhere
5:26in this like cute gym out that I have on
5:28that you guys can't see but um I I think
5:31I'm going into week three of being
5:33consistent I'm going to try my best to
5:36remain consistent and not try to be
5:39perfect but try to be consistent so just
5:40wish me luck on that okay wish me the
5:44best of luck because it is a struggle
5:46child especially as you get older you
5:48know I'm knocking on 40 it's right
5:50around the door and I really feel the um
5:53metabolism slowing down I also had a lot
5:55of medical issues this past 12 months
5:58um like I had like surgeries and I was
6:00on medication and a bunch of stuff it
6:02just messed up my like whole health and
6:03fitness journey but I'm back at it again
6:05and so just wish me luck on that
6:09um
6:09Okay so we've got an aita and you know
6:13what weddings are a source of contention
6:18we next live stream I remember how I
6:21said I need banners I need transitions
6:23because I wanted to update the banners
6:24and transitions I had they weren't
6:25really relevant to the channel anymore a
6:28lovely subscriber was kind enough to
6:30send me some and so I will shout that
6:32person out and I will also be posting
6:35those here on the channel so that'll be
6:38like oh we're starting to stream we're
6:40doing the Icebreaker we're you know
6:42taking a break we're going into the next
6:44video so that way like we can have some
6:46like semblance of professionalism here
6:50um all right Kelly on your second week
6:52of running yes guys tell me about your
6:54health and fitness Journeys if you're on
6:56them and if you're not ain't nothing
6:57wrong with that because honestly
6:59sometimes when I take a break from I had
7:02an issue when I was younger where like I
7:04would work out for like two hours a day
7:06and that was you know great and
7:08everything because I was really fit but
7:10that is not a good way to live like
7:13that's not actually that's not actually
7:14mentally healthy right so they're not
7:16like what's the stream side and I was
7:18just like
7:19I'm not doing all this anymore
7:21I'm just gonna live life I'm gonna enjoy
7:23life I'm not gonna count every single
7:25calorie and I did I enjoyed life and
7:27then I gained a ton of weight so it's
7:29just been ever since then I've just been
7:30trying to like do this like transition
7:32thing between being mentally healthy and
7:35being physically healthy not overdoing
7:37it and then not like overdoing you know
7:40doing nothing you know so that's that's
7:42a tough that's a tough thing to do
7:44especially as you get older I'm telling
7:48you
7:49okay so here we go this is our
7:52Icebreaker a-i-t-a am I the a-hole for
7:56the first like 30 minutes or so the
7:58stream I don't know exactly how long it
8:00is maybe it's an hour I try not to use
8:02the exact word because um child you know
8:05you know how YouTube does they'll lock
8:07you they'll they'll demonetize your
8:09video so fast just even I think
8:11sometimes even saying the word
8:13demonetize or saying like referencing to
8:15YouTube directly sometimes they'll be
8:17like all right stop playing with us and
8:19they'll snatch your monetization off
8:20your video
8:23I really think that
8:26um
8:28did you guys see Wendy Williams on the
8:30mass singer two years ago I did not
8:33and I saw a video she was lips and she
8:36was like her costume was like a bit her
8:38it was a head that was a big pair of red
8:40lips right which is just so apropos of
8:43her and she's saying
8:45um something like it was like something
8:47about being from New York or something
8:49like that I can't remember the name of
8:50the song but oh my God it was so funny
8:53that it was almost like heartwarming and
8:55maybe made me want to cry because you
8:57know she's like having Health struggles
8:58and things like that and like you know a
9:01celebrity gossip not always the nicest
9:02thing to do but she has a great
9:04personality you know and so she was I
9:06don't want to play it here because I
9:07don't want to get copyrighted but she's
9:10singing this song and she's like
9:12somewhat off-key sometimes she sounds
9:15pretty good actually but she's somewhat
9:16house key she snorts I mean snorting
9:19just now when we think about that she
9:20like snorts while she's laughing at
9:21herself and it just like At first
9:23everybody's like oh but then as she
9:25sings so much more like she's just like
9:27belting it out and she's really going
9:28for the Gusto and it's like so endearing
9:31to the crowd if you have not seen it I I
9:34would check it out it's Wendy Williams
9:35on the mass singer or I think her
9:38character
9:39her costume name was lips so lips on The
9:42Masked Singer and I forgot the song
9:43she's singing but my goodness it was
9:46hilarious and I really highly recommend
9:49it like if you want to like just like
9:50Raise Your Spirits because it's just
9:52like she's laughing at herself while
9:54she's doing it you know I would really
9:56suggest you watch it so aita for
9:58refusing to pay for my daughter's
9:59wedding because she won't let me walk
10:01her down the aisle I'm a 48 year old man
10:04yes you are because you didn't put I 48m
10:07like they do on Reddit and my 19 year
10:11old daughter has always been an
10:13independent thinker
10:1419. I raised her to be independent and
10:17think for herself which I've always
10:19appreciated however we recently hit a
10:21bit of a snack I mean even if you didn't
10:23raise her to be independent you might
10:26have hit a bit of a snag that's just
10:28she's 19 you know
10:29she got engaged and decided that she
10:31doesn't want me to walk her down the
10:33aisle at her wedding she argues that her
10:35mother and I don't own her therefore we
10:37have no right to give her away I feel
10:40hurt by this because we never treated
10:42her like an object or a piece of
10:43property rather we tried our best to
10:46provide her with a Wonderful Life her
10:48stance seems extreme to me and despite
10:51discussions she's refusing to Bud on the
10:53issue I respect her choices but I feel
10:55she's disregarding our feelings
10:57completely as a response I told her that
10:59if she feels that way then I won't be
11:01paying for her wedding
11:03you do not respect your choices you mad
11:07I don't want to come across as
11:09controlling or manipulative but by her
11:12logic I don't own her
11:14also I also don't owe her a fully funded
11:18wedding
11:19I mean
11:20yeah
11:25she can pay for her own wedding if she
11:27insists if she's insistent on The Stance
11:30she can pay for her own wedding if she's
11:32insistent on this dance I'm feeling
11:34quite conflicted about this a i t a
11:39and he has an edit
11:42he has a he has a very long edit should
11:44we read that let's read it
11:46so this isn't about making the wedding
11:48about me walking her down the aisle
11:50while all eyes are on her anyway and
11:52then sitting well that's not what it's
11:54about and then sitting down is hardly
11:56making the wedding about me it's about
11:57her attitude
11:59she's had every opportunity in life so
12:01far and to exclude us from this date is
12:03a spit in the face it's a rejection of
12:06everything we've done for her sacrifice
12:09for her given her it's selfish ninety
12:12percent of wedding traditions and
12:13symbolism have roots and things we don't
12:15acknowledge today should we stop all of
12:17them what's this quote from the Rings
12:20the flowers the dress the wedding party
12:22the cake the flower girls a father
12:24walking his daughter down the aisle has
12:25been about respect Pride love and
12:28honoring the father-daughter
12:29relationship for far longer than it was
12:31about ownership well
12:34um I don't know where that comes from
12:36but uh because the quotes you you get
12:39from somewhere but that is not true that
12:41last part is not true but okay
12:43independent thinking do you guys are
12:46going to be surprised to think what to
12:47find out what I actually think about
12:48this based on my commentary independent
12:50thinking does not mean rude or selfish
12:52thinking
12:55one parent person's Independence is
12:57another person's rudeness like so that's
12:58really subjective being an independent
13:01thinker does not give someone the
13:02license to disregard or disrespect the
13:06thoughts feelings or perspectives of
13:08others
13:10independent thinking is about
13:12maintaining the ability to think
13:13critically and form one's own opinions
13:15while remaining respectful and
13:17considerate of others
13:20it is a balance between asserting
13:21individuality and engaging in meaningful
13:23and respectful interactions with others
13:26also know that our relationship is not
13:28so weak that this disagreement will ruin
13:30our relationship
13:31are you sure
13:33we are still close with each other in
13:35spite of this
13:37there is zero chance of her not inviting
13:39us to her wedding regardless of who pays
13:40for it or cutting off contact and
13:42withholding grandchildren I feel sorry
13:44for anyone who suggests that it's a
13:46possibility
13:47in life people disagree even strongly
13:49the this guy has like a real lack of
13:51insight it's a natural part of life we
13:54don't end lifelong relationships over it
13:57sad
13:59okay so here's the thing I'm not looking
14:02at your guys's comments but fire up the
14:04comments away because I'm gonna come to
14:05them
14:06but I want to like formulate my own
14:07thoughts I have a lot of complex things
14:09thinking about this because I'm a person
14:11who got married not as a 19 year old so
14:14right like I got married and I was 35 or
14:1735.
14:19how old was I how old am I now yeah I
14:23was 34 or 35 whatever I was however old
14:26um and I was a grown-ass woman let's
14:28just put it that way and we paid for our
14:31own stuff right but
14:34there did come a point in time where my
14:38uncle sent us a little something you
14:40know to help not that we asked for it
14:43you know just in discussions we're like
14:44yeah we're doing this we're blah blah
14:46and he he sent us a little something and
14:49I'm not saying little to belittle it I'm
14:52saying little as in you'll need to know
14:54how much that's none of your business
14:55right
14:56and my husband's mother
15:00and stepdad sends us a little something
15:01right not because we asked for it but
15:04because it was like out of love right
15:05like we're gonna take care of this like
15:08because we're like oh like the resort is
15:09doing blah blah blah but we're gonna do
15:11this instead because it's more cost
15:12effective and they'll be like we'll take
15:15care of that for you a straight up gift
15:17right
15:19and so we didn't depend upon anybody to
15:23pay for our wedding we have people that
15:25loved us that contributed to things for
15:27us because they loved us right
15:31and
15:33that put us in a different I think
15:36position than someone that's depending
15:38upon somebody to
15:42pay for their wedding
15:44I don't know how old her fiance is but I
15:48also don't know where a 19 year old gets
15:51the money to pay for a wedding
15:53so while in theory I agree with the
15:58daughter that she has the right to set
16:00the terms for her wedding right people
16:03love to interfere in the wedding
16:05planning process they love that that's
16:07their favorite thing to do weddings and
16:08funerals people love to act up and
16:10assert their dominance right they just
16:12love it
16:14but
16:15you don't have the ultimate say so when
16:18you're not footing the bill that's why I
16:19believe in financial Independence
16:21because I don't ever want anybody
16:22telling me what to do right and just
16:24because you give me something doesn't
16:26mean that I have to do what you what you
16:27say ultimately what I say goes right
16:30but if you want to live that way you
16:33gotta have big girl money and big boy
16:35money whatever whatever it is that you
16:36guys are doing something tells me that
16:38because they're 19 they're depending on
16:40Mommy and Daddy
16:42and maybe the in-laws to help pay for
16:46this wedding
16:47right
16:49and that's the traditional thing to do
16:51but then when someone's paying for
16:53something they have a level of input
16:56that they would not have had they not
16:57been paying for it
17:00here's the flip side of that
17:02when you hold your financial power over
17:06other people because he wants he wants
17:08to walk her down the aisle and so as a
17:10carrot to the Stick of walking her down
17:14the aisle
17:15he's offering to pay but he'll use the
17:18Stick of not paying right if she doesn't
17:20allow him to walk her down the aisle
17:23you're holding your financial ability as
17:26a 48 year old man over your 90 year old
17:28daughter you are going to create
17:30resentment
17:31it's like you both have to just accept
17:33where you are in this situation you know
17:36I think it's totally fine for her to not
17:39want her father to walk her down the
17:40aisle and still there be no resentment
17:42but you're not allowing for that
17:45and I also think that it's
17:47fine for you to say if you don't want me
17:50to walk you down the aisle I'm not going
17:52to contribute to the wedding or it's
17:53literally not not let me not say totally
17:55fine let me say it's within your rights
17:57to do that but you're not allowing for
17:59the fact you're not conceiving of the
18:01fact that this independent woman that
18:03you raise is going to have independent
18:05thoughts outside of you
18:07and so you think that there's not going
18:09to be resentment there absolutely will
18:11be resentment
18:12okay there are things that I conceded in
18:16my wedding to make other people happy
18:19and I'm happy that I conceded those
18:21things because I felt like I had the
18:24ability to say no but anytime I've ever
18:27like it was like family tradition type
18:29stuff it ended up being a a boom to the
18:31wedding ended up making things more
18:34intimate and beautiful but I didn't do
18:36anything I didn't want to do but I've
18:38been in positions where because this is
18:40not my house and I'm staying here
18:42this is not my money but I'm using it
18:45this is not my food right it's your food
18:48but you're allowing me to eat it
18:51where you know you the power
18:53differential is such that you cannot
18:54assert yourself or where you try to
18:56assert yourself and they're like well
18:58I'll just you just can't stay here
18:59anymore and so you have to shut up and
19:02that's the position you put your
19:03daughter in
19:04it doesn't necessarily make you an
19:06[ __ ] no it doesn't make you an
19:08[ __ ] necessarily it makes you a
19:10misguided Dad I think I think your your
19:13hurt is genuine I think he's probably
19:15spent all 19 years of her life like the
19:18moment she came out he's like oh my
19:20goodness I'm gonna walk her down the
19:22aisle like I am like that is something
19:25that's men are so a real dad they'll be
19:28so excited for the moment they walk
19:30their daughter down the aisle okay
19:32that's a big deal for a real loving
19:36genuine dad and he feels like he's
19:37getting robbed of that so like I
19:39definitely understand where he's coming
19:40from he's not an evil person but he's
19:42forgetting that she's not even though
19:44she's only 19 she's not that little girl
19:46anymore she is an independent adult and
19:49she has you are having cognitive
19:51dissonance she has different thoughts
19:52than what you had
19:53and she gets to live out her life
19:56independently from you but your last
19:58grasp of being her dad and being able to
20:02tell her what to do
20:04is this money that you can hold over her
20:06if you withhold the money for her
20:08wedding because she won't let you walk
20:09her down the aisle how is she gonna get
20:11married
20:13so you know she's not gonna she's not
20:15gonna call your bluff so you're forcing
20:17it there's no way she's not going to let
20:19you pay for the wedding so that she
20:21can't go ahead and get married I don't
20:22think she's got any money I'm positive
20:24she has no money
20:26because she's 19.
20:28and unless she married Prince that just
20:30magically has money then you would have
20:32been paying in the first place so she
20:33doesn't have any money it's your money
20:35and you're being traditional so you're
20:37paying because you're a Father of the
20:38Bride and that's the traditional thing
20:39to do
20:42what's up
20:50are you okay
20:57you okay
21:00do you have to go potty
21:07okay
21:08I don't know what's going on I don't
21:11know what's going on are you okay
21:20all right sorry I don't know she she
21:22needed a moment
21:24can I talk to the people then let's go
21:27see what the people think I don't know I
21:28feel like the dad is being for a mature
21:31person he's being very naive if he
21:34thinks that this is not going to cause a
21:35riff with his daughter it's gonna cause
21:38a rift it is
21:40um it's gonna cause resentment and that
21:42resentment can can go down the thing for
21:44a long time and on her on her side
21:48you know if you want to truly be
21:50independent and show that you're not a
21:52piece of property then you have to Askew
21:54all of the Traditions that's what your
21:56dad is saying that's your only option so
21:58maybe you delay your wedding for another
22:00year so you can pay for it yourself and
22:02nobody can tell you what to do there is
22:04nothing like Financial Independence
22:06nothing like it because so many people
22:08are supposed to have your best interests
22:09in heart they will hold their money over
22:11you when given the opportunity
22:14those are my thoughts on that
22:17I think Jazz has to go to the bathroom
22:19so we are going to take a quick break
22:22I'll be right back
24:17hey guys thanks for being yeah you need
24:21to come on stop messing with me
24:27good girl good girl
24:31Jeff has her own ideas about things
24:35all right you did not miss the fun we
24:39have broken the ice we've got 767 people
24:42here which is amazing please make sure
24:45that you like the video
24:46I had to run upstairs and downstairs I'm
24:49out of breath
24:50mesocarium nice to see you thank you for
24:52the five dollar Super Chat teenager
24:54finance my wedding but you cannot take
24:55part Mr investor
24:58good point
24:59something tells me he isn't telling a
25:01whole story says equality thank you very
25:04much for the Super Chat I feel that way
25:05too but honestly again if you're 19 and
25:10your dad is paying for an entire wedding
25:13this is what it is
25:17and XV welcome to the lawyer Chiclets
25:20hello
25:22hello my friends okay we're gonna start
25:24a poll
25:29who is the a-hole
25:33for Dad
25:35good daughter
25:40patriarchy
25:43okay
25:45make sure I spelled that right
25:47yeah you know I I think like it's a
25:49little it's harsh what the dad is doing
25:51but I think he's within his rights to do
25:54it
25:55you know methocarib thank you says the
25:57American dream instantaneously getting
25:59things you cannot financially afford
26:01boom
26:03boom Captain clown says both
26:06if you say both just put that in the
26:08chat just go ahead and put that um chat
26:12um was 19 when I got married parents
26:15paid for 90 still married since 1991. oh
26:19that is so sweet and beautiful
26:21congratulations on your
26:24um long lasting healthy marriage and
26:27that is very very sweet that your
26:28parents did that I love that oh
26:33both a little bit of both I've got to
26:35change the poll
26:37I've got to change the poll there's so
26:38many people saying both I'm not gonna
26:40get a good uh feeling for it okay
26:44start a poll
26:47let me end this poll
26:50but the daughter's getting less smoke
26:51and again I think that's fair it's this
26:54one's tough for me
26:55who is the a-hole
26:58the daughter
27:00the father
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27:20all right I'm gonna read a few of your
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27:26she'll take his money but won't let him
27:28walk her down the aisle like what's up
27:31with that relationship feel bad for the
27:32dad she can just take her butt to the
27:34court
27:35okay Patty B
27:39if you don't know who we're talking
27:40about go back to the beginning of the
27:41video Kathleen R she's immature the
27:45marriage should be rethought yeah
27:47definitely look and it's like this if if
27:49you want
27:52the thing I just think the dad has some
27:54unrealistic expectations but I think
27:56he's within his rights to say that how
27:58about that I think if he expects that
28:01her stance is a little immature to be
28:03like I'm not going to let you walking
28:05down the aisle but I also want you to
28:07pay for my wedding right that's that's
28:08unrealistic that's immature
28:11unless he agrees but if he doesn't agree
28:13that's an immature take but him thinking
28:16that him not paying for her wedding is
28:17not going to have
28:19long-standing reverberations way it's
28:23not going to reverberate far after this
28:25wedding he is also naive and sorely
28:29mistaken and I'm sorry that's just how I
28:31feel I feel like I feel like if she is
28:33that intransient about her wish to not
28:36be walked down the aisle and then you
28:38force her to do it by holding the money
28:41over her head she is sounds like she has
28:43the personality to hold it against you
28:45I don't know
28:47I don't know guys
28:50I love these comments
28:55this marriage won't last well
28:57statistically speaking it won't but uh
28:59maybe it will who knows
29:02she's immature but Dad is dreaming if
29:05there won't be any resentment I wonder
29:06what Mom thinks I would love to know
29:09what mom thinks maybe Mom is not a
29:11factor because he hasn't he didn't say
29:12anything about um Mom
29:14sounds like a strained relationship to
29:17begin with
29:18yeah I mean this whole like I raise her
29:20to be an independent thinker but here
29:21she is thinking independently how dare
29:23she
29:25see and when they say they raise you to
29:26be an independent thinker they don't
29:27mean against them
29:30I've got it from me everybody else not
29:32me
29:33and then which is kind of cute you know
29:35I don't think the dad is a bad guy
29:37either I just think his his feelings are
29:39really really hurt and he hasn't quite
29:41figured out how to get what he wants
29:43without estranging his daughter that's
29:46gonna be tough I don't know if I'd be
29:48able to do that Jared Stark I just love
29:50your last name
29:52shout out to nerd Rip's a real one
29:55thank you for the Super Chat LOL first
29:57of all problems but they're both of the
29:58class of holes
30:00[Laughter]
30:03yeah it is first world problems isn't it
30:07it is I mean
30:10I didn't think we were gonna get anyone
30:12to contribute to our wedding we were
30:13grown ass people getting married so it's
30:15like we were not even expecting that and
30:17we Penny pinched and saved we bought a
30:19house first
30:21buying a house will take your money it
30:24will take every single piece of money
30:26that you have it's like there's a cost
30:28for this and a cost for that and a cost
30:29for this right so we we bought a house
30:31first and so then we had to save up
30:33another year for the wedding and so we
30:36were just gonna be very like we're gonna
30:38be in this Resort very very Bare Bones
30:40and thankfully our family members were
30:42kind enough to be like okay you deserve
30:44a little something extra you know
30:46so so sweet Heather R says the 30th was
30:50our 15th anniversary congratulations we
30:53paid for 90 we got married at 23 and 21.
30:56that is so so sweet and happy
30:59anniversary
31:01and that was us we paid for like 90 of
31:03our wedding
31:05my parents paid like most two thousand
31:08dollars for my wedding yeah I think
31:09that's you know in this modern day and
31:11age you know what I'm kind of changing
31:14my mind a little bit in this day and age
31:16most people are not in the position for
31:17their parents to pay for their wedding
31:18like most people are not that's that
31:21used to be the thing when people were
31:23getting married at like 19 and stuff
31:25like that instead of investing in your
31:26college they would invest in your
31:27wedding but that's not really happening
31:29anymore so dad is in a position where he
31:31can do something that most parents could
31:33only dream to do yeah the disappointment
31:35is gonna be real yeah
31:39yeah so Fred says he believes patriarchy
31:41and not the dad he's a product of the
31:43culture I believe I think so too you
31:45know he's you know I don't know oh this
31:48is so sweet we got married in our living
31:50room my husband and I were both in our
31:5230s I still thought it was too damn much
31:53I wish I could have gotten away with the
31:55loping that is so sweet I love that I
32:00did not feel like our wedding was too
32:01damn much okay we had a ball it was a
32:05great time it was my dream wedding it's
32:07a wedding I never thought I would be
32:09able to have I was so happy to have it
32:10we just had to be very financially Savvy
32:13about it because I told you we don't do
32:14credit so we had to be very very
32:16financially Savvy about the whole
32:17situation and it was it was beautiful I
32:21loved it it is sad it is very very sad
32:24so let's move on to someone who is a uh
32:28I would Hazard to say
32:31less than reliable individual maybe
32:35that's a nice way of putting it we're
32:36going to speed this up quite a bit and
32:39this is Sarah Boone
32:41um last year Sarah Boone called the
32:43police
32:43uh no not last year February of 2020 not
32:4620 I forget what you were in February of
32:482020 Sarah Boone calls the police and
32:51the police arrive at her home and there
32:52was her boyfriend dead inside of a
32:55suitcase in her house
32:57in her apartment
32:59and she's being interrogated by the
33:00police about her dead boyfriend
33:03let's give it a look
33:05Anna listen let's try 1.5 hopefully they
33:07don't sound too much so this morning
33:11um and we were informed of some injuries
33:14sorry going all the way to the beginning
33:20sure
33:21um so obviously
33:23um so I'm gonna read you your rights
33:26again because we have to talk about that
33:27and since I'm talking about the insane
33:29we just have to do it
33:31this is Miranda this is the thing that
33:33everyone talks about when they're like
33:34the police didn't read me my rights for
33:37the most part police do not have to read
33:40you your rights like what this officer
33:41is about to do
33:42except for when they have you in custody
33:45she's in a police station right they're
33:48she's surrounded by officers she's in an
33:49interrogation room by and large unless
33:52say she came there voluntarily or
33:54something like that she's in custody and
33:56they're about to ask her some questions
33:57they've gotten back the autopsy on her
33:59dead boyfriend they're about to ask her
34:01some questions and so custody plus
34:04interrogation triggers Miranda they now
34:06have to tell her about her Miranda
34:08rights you do not have to read somebody
34:10Miranda writes when you're arresting
34:12them you have to reason their Miranda
34:14rights when you are interrogating them
34:22all right so you have the right to
34:24remain silent anything you say may be
34:25used to enter in court you either write
34:27a chapter like before and during
34:27question without charge if you can
34:29afford a lawyer and want one one can be
34:30provided for you before questioning
34:31without charge has anyone threatened you
34:32or promise you anything to get you to
34:33talk to me no and do you understand what
34:35I just read you yes
34:36okay
34:37that was all correct so this morning we
34:39went to his Ultra team
34:41um and we were informed of some injuries
34:45that he has by the doctor so I wonder
34:50um so he's got
34:51scratch marks to his back
34:54I know that's wrong okay and
34:57um it's all the contusions you know what
34:59this confusion is so like basically
35:01you're getting hit and then you know you
35:02get a mark from it you'll get bruising
35:04like some someone hit you or something
35:06like that it's called a contusion so he
35:08had some injuries to his left shoulder
35:11um he had
35:13um he had cut in your head her story is
35:15that he got into there voluntarily they
35:18were playing hide and seek she went to
35:20bed and forgot like just forgot about
35:23him and he suffocated so he shouldn't
35:26have any injuries uh because he should
35:29have just maybe fallen asleep in there
35:30or been unable to get out but no
35:32contusions or bruises or anything like
35:34that so that's already suspicious it's
35:36like let's see we can see his
35:38um his mouth was a little I haven't like
35:40handled him okay
35:42also too I he fell off my son's bike
35:45okay so I don't know and he's notorious
35:47for running into the wall or the
35:48haltering otherwise okay what about the
35:51scratches
35:54so there's also sex yes okay because
35:57there's also like
35:58um like a scratch on like the back of
36:00his neck like kind of like going but
36:02it's like going straight across
36:05and they're all recent like they they've
36:07occurred recently it wasn't something
36:08that occurred post or that occurred a
36:10week ago or two days ago three days ago
36:11they definitely occurred you know the
36:13night leading up so when he was in all
36:15honesty all honesty we have not gotten
36:17into it okay that's why like the only
36:20thing I thought you guys were going to
36:20ask me about which I was going to ask
36:22you anyway I just scratch marks on this
36:23back everything else I have no idea what
36:25it is
36:26no idea what it is nonetheless I've had
36:28my son over the house too so well your
36:31son was theirs when when was he last
36:32there oh gosh so my understanding he was
36:35there like last Tuesday last I don't
36:37know if it's Tuesday
36:39but yes he was there last week so well
36:41we're not listening to what she said
36:44says they're paying attention to how she
36:47says it look at the brust nature in
36:50which she's telling these officers about
36:52what should be the accidental death of
36:54her boyfriend the way in which she's
36:56talking to them and then she's already
36:58without prompting before they prompted
37:01saying things like him running into
37:04walls being the source of his bruising
37:07I'm outstanding we're just talking about
37:12they occurred within that time period so
37:14you're talking about yesterday
37:16Sunday leading into Monday you called us
37:18yesterday at one so but the incident you
37:20guys were painting and stuff the night
37:21prior correct so we're talking about
37:23Sunday
37:24thoroughly confused because we had a
37:28good time sitting on the back porch
37:29having wine and smoking a couple of
37:31cigarettes and then decided to go inside
37:32and literally paint do puzzles and play
37:35and listen to music that's why
37:38nobody got out of source this is what
37:41it's mind-blowing to me like I don't I
37:43have no clue nobody laid a hand on
37:45anybody he also had
37:47um
37:48like on the left side of his forehead he
37:50had basically bruised
37:52so if she wants to try and claim later
37:55on that he did something to her to lead
37:59her to be afraid to let him out of the
38:01suitcase she just destroyed that by
38:03making that statement that no one had
38:06laid a hand on anybody he he didn't put
38:08his hands on me I didn't put my hands on
38:10him if she's gonna try to claim some
38:12wild and crazy self-defense her better
38:15option would have been to remain silent
38:17and ask for an attorney and terminated
38:19the interrogation as soon as they
38:21started to read as soon as they were
38:22finished reading her the Miranda writes
38:24I think
38:27on like his
38:28like his his goal I have no idea as if
38:31something hit him I considered Panama I
38:35have not touched him I have not touched
38:37him how would you get those instruments
38:38tell me and we'll both know
38:40I have not touched him yesterday when we
38:43took photographs of your overall body
38:46um and they did the Beagle swabs did
38:47they go under your fingernails no okay
38:49are you willing a lot of absolutely swab
38:51underneath your fingernails go for it
38:56but I have no idea we had a good day it
39:01was a good day we've had good days
39:03lately even considering everything
39:04that's going on with our jobs and life
39:06in general and Ex-Wives and everything
39:08it's been good like I don't even know
39:10where this is coming from
39:12yeah I don't even watch physical was
39:14probably you said I think what a month
39:15ago where you got the injury right after
39:19a few weeks give or take yeah a few
39:21weeks that was the last like physical
39:22altercation between the two of you
39:24um
39:29either
39:30wow
39:31like we've been good I don't know if
39:33like since the last time he got out of
39:35jail like we've been good and he's been
39:37having his classes and his senior
39:39probation officer who's amazing so what
39:42do you mean by good what's your
39:43definition that's good
39:45I know you said you guys have been good
39:47we're sure I've been good I don't think
39:49you will understand he comes at me all
39:51the time he comes at me so it's either I
39:54flee or try to go upstairs and go to
39:57sleep that's usually what it is no
39:59so everything was good
40:02he didn't put his hands on you but he
40:04comes at you and it's either you flee
40:06try to go upstairs
40:09the The Avenues are closing in the
40:12Avenues of Escape it's becoming narrower
40:15and narrower
40:16the more you talk it would have been
40:18better to remain silent no if you talk
40:19to Brian about any of that but most of
40:21the time when I sleep I go over there
40:23so
40:24right but you're saying that you guys
40:25have been good and when I asked you
40:27yesterday there has the last incident
40:29that you could remember was the curtain
40:30rodden today which you said was a month
40:31ago so super take right so what do you
40:33mean by he comes after you like he was
40:36belligerently drunk like I don't know if
40:39you all have looked through my phone yet
40:40and too many of the pictures and the
40:42videos that I have taken and the at one
40:45point I started documenting everything
40:46okay so you all will see in my pictures
40:50bloody fingers split foreheads and split
40:53my nose I've got this right I don't know
40:55Brian told you about it where I had to
40:56have almost like I had one really bad
40:58surgery but then it got really really
40:59really really bad where I had to go like
41:01four or five more times afterwards and
41:02then to pin to it and then poke me in
41:04the back of the leg right so it's
41:06then why are you still with him
41:07everybody asked me that
41:11I mean people stay in abusive
41:14relationships all the time and
41:15statistics show that people are more
41:18likely to be killed when they try to
41:20leave an abusive relationship let's not
41:22forget that in the past not only has her
41:25boyfriend been arrested for abusing her
41:27she's been arrested for physically
41:28assaulting him as well they've both been
41:30arrested for assaulting each other but
41:33she's realizing that her planned defense
41:35this is how it looks okay it's gonna
41:38look like she realizes that her planned
41:40defense of I had no motive to kill him
41:43we didn't get into a fight it's not
41:45going to work and so now she's saying
41:47that we fought in the past and I've been
41:51afraid of him in the past
41:54tell you guys this
41:57I really love him like I do and I feel
42:00like I can help him like I feel like I
42:02could help him which I did because he's
42:04come up really he came a really long way
42:05from where he was in Philadelphia and
42:08moving back to Heron to dealing with
42:09everything else that he's been dealing
42:10with I've really helped him I bailed him
42:12out of jail what three times I've gone
42:14to every single Hearing in every single
42:16arraignment everything that I did for
42:17him he's gone to see all his public
42:19defenders go to the state I've gone to
42:21the state I did everything for him
42:22because I'm trying to help him because I
42:24have a bad openness and he was trying
42:27really dry just and then he starts to
42:30think about things and it just I think
42:32he gets overwhelmed and then it's like
42:33the next thing I know he's drinking so
42:35it's like oh man
42:36I know where this is going to go so I'm
42:38gonna go upstairs and read a book or I'm
42:39gonna go for a bike ride or I'm gonna do
42:41something else or I don't want to drink
42:42I don't want to drink the occasional
42:45wine whatever or if it's a weekend
42:47that's when you you have a good time you
42:50don't have to wake up the next day I
42:51have to wake up the next day and do
42:53things I have to tend to lose it I have
42:54to take him to school I have all this
42:55stuff to do
42:56he doesn't know too
42:59I guess maintain himself where I can do
43:0350 things at once and still know the 50
43:04things more previously prior that I need
43:07to get done he can't process like that
43:09he didn't process like that so it he
43:10would literally not literally but had
43:11smoke coming out of his ears so the next
43:13thing you know he doesn't want to deal
43:14with it I'm gonna go get something to
43:16drink so the majority of the time I
43:18would hang out outside or do something
43:20else because I don't want to drink
43:22and every time every time his job broke
43:26his heart and it may be sad because he
43:28had so much pride in his job and the
43:30store that he took care of so much
43:33totally went downhill and that broke his
43:35heart because hip hips don't work and
43:37effort into fixing it up and his manager
43:40was awesome
43:42and basically gave up on all of the
43:44employees so I think that had a huge
43:47bearing on why he would drink so much
43:49his ex-wife is Bonkers she was all over
43:52him all the time Cindy might send me
43:55money send me money
43:57how can I send you money when I don't
43:58have a job and he still
44:00so you see how she's deflecting here the
44:03original question she's way off from the
44:05question is number one
44:09how did he get these injuries I don't
44:11know shut up or don't be talking at all
44:14number two why didn't you just leave
44:17right now she's going into all these
44:21other things someone is bringing up a
44:23very interesting point that if she wants
44:26to assert battered woman syndrome Miss
44:27Boone might be precluded from that
44:29because she's not his spouse he already
44:32has a spouse she's saying his ex-wife
44:34but I think Lily he was still married
44:36here's the thing battered women's
44:38syndrome or battered spouse syndrome is
44:41a misnomer because it's not just for
44:43women and it's not just for spouses it's
44:45for people with their live-in mates
44:48where they say they may lash out and
44:50violence against a person that has a
44:53documented continuing abuse against them
44:56usually those cases happen when the
44:58partner is sleeping and you feel like
45:00you're safe and so it's not usually
45:02direct self-defense because the person
45:05is not actively attacking you but you
45:07feel like there's no other way that you
45:09can get away way unless you hurt or harm
45:12or kill this person right that's what
45:15battered you know spouse-spattered
45:17women's syndrome is but it's not
45:20particularized to women men have
45:21advanced battered spouse syndrome
45:24non-marry couples having people that are
45:27non-married in Partnerships have
45:29advanced battered spouse syndrome you
45:32have to be cohabitating right you have
45:35to be cohabitating at home and have a
45:39pattern of abuse
45:41trying to take care of me and Lucas by
45:44paying a bill here there getting some
45:46groceries so he always had something on
45:48his mind see you later Enchanted wolf I
45:51got the book
45:56so when you all feel
45:58all of the damage he has done to me and
46:01the videos of him smashing my television
46:03because he's belligerently drunk
46:05well most of the time I just don't want
46:07to be there and I try to help him I try
46:09to calm him down
46:10eventually he just pops out
46:13well yesterday it made it sound like you
46:15guys were just drinking like a glass or
46:17two like yeah you obviously have the
46:19bottle but you I mean you've killed me
46:20on the yeah but you told me on recording
46:22like that you were not drunk he was not
46:23drunk you guys were having a good time I
46:25don't get I can't get drunk number one I
46:28do not want to get drunk I don't like
46:31being non-competent having my wits about
46:33myself I don't like feeling out of
46:34control
46:36she definitely used that word correctly
46:37I just want to say that compassment to
46:39she's that right but again here you're
46:43contradicting yourself because you're
46:45talking about how like everything got
46:47crazy I just wanted to go to sleep but
46:49just earlier you had said this is one of
46:51your guys's best nights everything was
46:53okay it's the best you'd ever been
46:56so I'm just saying you're you're making
46:58it sound like like he's a raging
47:00alcoholic today and yesterday I was kind
47:02of asking you those questions and you're
47:03like a little defensive like no we're
47:05not alcoholics or not you know but you
47:09guys are both sober on Sunday for your
47:11knowledge because when I said you went
47:12and passed out you were like no I didn't
47:14pass out I just fell asleep so now it's
47:16kind of like what is it is it were you
47:18guys drinking and I got out of hand and
47:19it got physical or is it
47:22Sunday was one of the better days that
47:24we have had in quite some time he's
47:27dancing with my dogs you can see that
47:28too on the pictures him loving the dogs
47:30he loves the dogs and dancing around
47:33having a good time and just
47:35just being happy kind of thing
47:38he doesn't know I can't
47:41I mean I can get like
47:43maybe two or three glasses of wine and
47:45I'll be fine but I have to have my wits
47:46about myself because I don't know what
47:47to expect well let's talk about Sunday
47:49what was Sunday how were you like how
47:51many glasses of wine did you have how
47:52many glasses of wine did he have the
47:53bottle was gone I mean I don't know
47:55before it anyhow yeah no that was from
47:57previous you said that there was a half
47:59bottle left
48:00and then
48:02um that you had went well I don't even
48:05know how the wine how did you guys get
48:06the wine for Sunday I'm guessing he went
48:09to Publix he's does he do the does he
48:11like leave the house and you stay home
48:13or do you go to Publix like because I'm
48:14gonna talk about them okay did I go with
48:16him Sunday so most of the time what
48:18happens is because the convenience store
48:20where we get cigarettes is here and then
48:22Publix literally it's catty Walkers to
48:23it okay so what he'll do is he'll start
48:25go by Publix and then on the way back
48:27Eddie Wampus convenience store okay so
48:29is that what he did Sunday I'm guessing
48:31that's what he did because next thing I
48:32always walk in with Bob okay so that's
48:35bedtime trying to be nice so I don't
48:37have to go out and do it plus there's
48:38stuff that around the house I had to
48:39take care of so that's usually what will
48:40happen or I'm folding laundry and he'll
48:42go run out and do whatever
48:44so where were you guys at on
48:48on drunkenness not drunkenness on Sunday
48:51I told that you weren't drunk I was not
48:55drunk so with him I don't know
48:58I I know when it's like oh okay man
49:01where I have told him slow down it's
49:04starting to catch up with you slow down
49:05slow down and another thing she was I
49:08don't like listening to music with him
49:10because he gets too involved in the
49:11music and then you think that he listens
49:13to is
49:14a little restaurant edges and like just
49:16it makes me infectious listening to his
49:18music so
49:19I kept asking him let's not let's just
49:21you and me talk you and meal just be the
49:23ones that are talking which was fine
49:24because I mean we were playing with a
49:26dog whatever and then it's like okay now
49:27let's do the painting we just did the
49:29puzzle took a break now let's do this
49:32sure enough that dog we're sitting there
49:34talking laughing talking about new
49:35movies we're watching movie trailers
49:38while we're doing painting and all that
49:40other stuff so it's still background
49:41noise to him because I think that's what
49:42he's used to with having they're letting
49:44her do a lot of talking and get herself
49:47in trouble but from what I know about
49:50police interrogations which is a lot
49:52because
49:53I have to watch a lot of them in my own
49:55job which is why I don't cover a lot of
49:56them here on the channel
49:58um they're just
49:59it's a lot uh but anyway from what I
50:02know of police interrogations a lot of
50:04times the questions that they ask are
50:06fashioned around where they already know
50:09the answer many of the questions that
50:11they ask and it's usually just a few
50:12where they don't know the answer yet and
50:14they're trying to get you to give them
50:15something but a lot of the times they're
50:17just trying to get you to say something
50:19that will hurt you later on right they
50:22know the answer of whether or not she
50:23was drunk that's not unknown to them
50:26background noise or me I can sit in here
50:28all day with not a peep but he always
50:30has to have some kind of background
50:31noise which I didn't mind because the
50:32trailers were cool and he was interested
50:34in showing them to me getting excited
50:36about movies that were out are upcoming
50:38okay so in your laptop and I mean and
50:42then it was we said it was a good day
50:44like you guys didn't have any have any
50:46uh conversations about your relationship
50:48you guys didn't go down like the rabbit
50:49hole like had too many to drink and you
50:51guys start getting this it made me so
50:54happy that he actually listened to what
50:56I had to say with just we'll get through
50:59it this will be fine it's just it's it's
51:02a small hurdle that you and I together
51:04will get through because in terms of the
51:06money jobs
51:08yes nothing and that's going to be an
51:11issue for The Battered
51:12um uh partner syndrome I guess is a
51:15better way to put it that's going to be
51:16an issue for that because a lot of times
51:18those cases involve like he just beat me
51:21or he had beat me the day before or she
51:23had beat me the day before and they've
51:25been raging all night and they finally
51:27go to sleep and it's like I can't
51:28[ __ ] get out of here I need to stab
51:30this guy or shoot this guy in order to
51:32get the hell up out of here because I'm
51:34in danger and I'm under constant threat
51:36of assault right they're not attacking
51:38me right this moment but they were
51:40attacking me within recent memory her
51:43testimony is basically like it was a it
51:45was a while ago the last time that we
51:46had a physical confrontation and this
51:49whole day was so great it was just one
51:51of our better days and the reason she's
51:53saying that is because she's trying to
51:54establish and have a reason to want to
51:56hurt him and lock him in a suitcase on
51:58purpose but it's gonna detract away from
52:01the defense she's going to advance now
52:03her case is going to trial coming up and
52:06she's having a lot of issues with like
52:07her attorney and the judge and stuff
52:08like that and I think a lot of it has to
52:10do with the fact that that batter spouse
52:12syndrome is not going to be a very
52:13viable option for her relationship wise
52:16though like no issues relationship like
52:18did you guys have a conversation about
52:19your relationship or was it just about
52:20just like what's going on right now I
52:23try to evoke it from him so
52:25he gets it off his chest because I call
52:27him the volcano where eventually he's
52:29going to erupt right and what he's
52:31learned in his classes is to communicate
52:33which is a huge thing in a relationship
52:35where she has been practicing
52:37communication so he actually talks to me
52:39about things and unburdens himself put
52:42it on me I'll sit there and try and
52:43figure it out for you like I have almost
52:45everything not a worry just tell me get
52:48it out of you right but it was when I
52:50tell you I was so happy like it was such
52:52a good day I kid you not the weather was
52:55beautiful outside I'm the one that had
52:56him go inside so we can do puzzles and
52:58painting listen to music or whatever
52:59else he wants to do so then he starts
53:01doing whatever it is we're doing
53:02together in the living room
53:05and then start talking because I think
53:07he gets comfortable with okay you know
53:09what we're here it is a good day let me
53:11go ahead and explain myself so I know
53:13nobody else knows but I know
53:15nobody knew George better than I did I
53:18say that I knew George better than
53:19himself
53:21and I tried in every way shape and form
53:23ask everyone
53:25I helped him I took care of him
53:32this is a super weird way to talk about
53:35someone who is just deceased
53:38in his in the suitcase
53:41this is just so so so weird her manner
53:45of Behaving is bizarre and it's not
53:47going to play well to a jury
53:49and I saw a comment that said the that
53:52the um
53:54interview is the least of her problems
53:56this is a big problem because jurors
53:59don't like stuff like this also we hit a
54:02thousand thank you very much we
54:04celebrate
54:06I miss him a lot and I didn't even sleep
54:09last night
54:11I miss him a lot
54:12I mean is there any chance it got to be
54:14too much for you and you couldn't handle
54:15taking care of him and I never stopped
54:18during the I never stopped
54:20that's what I'm here for
54:22I never stopped I'm here now because I'm
54:25still trying to help him
54:27yeah we just don't I mean it's
54:29unexplainable how he got these injuries
54:31and I have no idea you were the only one
54:33with him 100 right hand to God I have no
54:37idea how he got them
54:39nobody touched anybody nobody touched
54:42anybody
54:44okay
54:45um you had mentioned that you take uh
54:48you would take photos videos just kind
54:50of like a proof you're interested in
54:51general you guys are documenting at one
54:52point but that was
54:55we have moved into a very dangerous uh
54:59area and zone for Miss Boone this is not
55:03good photos and video
55:05this is gonna look
55:07really bad and this is all going to come
55:10in because she was told of her Miranda
55:12rights she doesn't seem to be under the
55:14influence of anything at this particular
55:16moment she has been given the
55:18opportunity to get an ask for an
55:19attorney and she hasn't and to answer
55:21someone's question which I pinned but I
55:23think this is the perfect time to answer
55:24it
55:25she can ask for an attorney at any time
55:28she can stop the interview at any time
55:30she can say I don't want to answer any
55:31more questions at any particular time
55:34and she has not done that was way before
55:37I think the last time that he got
55:39arrested where he was flying off the
55:40deep end but then I had him bailed out I
55:44got him out of jail right but because he
55:47had violated the pre-trial diversion
55:49they this time is probation so you don't
55:51have a choice in it you have to go to
55:53your probation officer you have to go to
55:55these classes it's court ordered where
55:57it took him a while to get used to it
55:58and understand they're not messing
56:00around I even went down and met his
56:02probation officer which I say I she's
56:04wonderful that's one of my questions
56:06between to talk about hug me and say how
56:09much she knows that I take care of it
56:10she calls me personally
56:12the question is about photos and videos
56:15and do you hear what she's answering
56:17just something completely different
56:20she answers whatever she wants to answer
56:21it's it's diverse divert divert distract
56:24distract distract that's her whole game
56:26one time when George was at work when he
56:28was working 42-minute phone call she and
56:31I just saying how grateful she is that
56:33George has me and she knows how hard I'm
56:35working to help him just as she is and
56:38just as the class as well so once he
56:40started actually going on a regular
56:41basis to the probation officer and then
56:43to his
56:45shelter City's class and his I don't
56:47know what VIP stands for better
56:48Intervention Program
56:49and actually listening to what it is
56:51everyone had to say Victims Impact I
56:54could see a change in him or before
56:55lashing out he would think about it
56:58and would always come home and show me
56:59his paper and we would look over his
57:00paper together where it's like wow you
57:02actually are learning this in class and
57:04some of the stuff that they would show
57:05them like videos he would come home and
57:07be like Sarah I'm so sorry so what I've
57:09done to you because for a video that he
57:11watches to
57:13make him feel that way where it's like
57:15oh man
57:17I have done her wrong
57:19but he's changed he changed
57:22and that's why you're still with them
57:23even though he's done all these things
57:24to you and when I tell you I love him I
57:27love him
57:28that is also devastating so the batter
57:31woman's
57:33um claim because you're saying he was in
57:35treatment and he changed right versus
57:38but were you under sustained abuse where
57:40you were in fear at all times and this
57:42is the only time that he was
57:44incapacitated and so you didn't help him
57:46because you were afraid of him or
57:50are you just making this all up because
57:53now you're saying he was doing better
57:55and he was doing his treatment which one
57:58is it
58:00I'm just thinking about what the
58:02prosecutor is going to be arguing when
58:04the defense advances batter spouse
58:06syndrome
58:08when you have when you love somebody you
58:10have limits everyone
58:16at some point somebody
58:18gets enough then they have to to do
58:20something to defend themselves
58:21I would just sweet and I don't know if
58:24you would like to see it on my phone or
58:25I think it's I think it's actually on a
58:27laptop I actually because and you have
58:29to understand too I have like prior to
58:33classes in po
58:34check him out how many times I had him
58:37arrested how many times
58:38I know the next day I know what's on
58:42your laptop
58:44um
58:46oh
58:47previously
58:49I actually looked up how to file a
58:51restraining order okay because I would
58:53take him out his parents because of them
58:55constantly having taken back in his bags
58:58of clothes all his stuff
59:01the one time the last time their father
59:03came out and
59:04I write and just not even I don't even
59:06know if he knew Lucas was in the car
59:07just opened the back of my car and start
59:09throwing all his crap and just throwing
59:10it like throwing it like the car would
59:12just like he was throwing all that stuff
59:13I love to do at that point because I
59:15continually did it not continually I
59:17think I maybe did it three times and he
59:18has nowhere else to go they got fed up
59:20and said nope either you're staying
59:22there or you're staying here so you're
59:24staying here at their place it's
59:25permanent you're not going back over
59:27there anymore
59:28so what happens is he pursues me so I
59:31don't know if you all know where Katie
59:32way Trail is okay so we it's literally
59:35right right there from our apartment
59:38would ride a bike to work but before he
59:41would leave extra early and come up to
59:43the wall stand on top of his bike and
59:44poke his head over because you know that
59:45I would be outside having my morning
59:47cigarette and cup of coffee
59:49where and I would also know too what
59:51time he would get off of work where I
59:52would know come getting all the work you
59:54can do the same thing so it's not like I
59:56ever got like a break from him where I
59:58told you all yesterday or whatever it
59:59was I started to feel that it was too
1:00:01much togetherness and when you have too
1:00:03much togetherness friction happens so
1:00:06I'm gonna go ride my bike I'm gonna go
1:00:08upstairs and read a book but what he
1:00:09every what did he say every waking
1:00:11moment he wants to be with me so and
1:00:14that might as well our town home is
1:00:15either upstairs or downstairs so it's
1:00:18like if you would like to sit downstairs
1:00:19and watch a movie or play on the laptop
1:00:21like I suggest you're more than welcome
1:00:22to I'm just going to be upstairs maybe
1:00:24watching one of my shows or maybe read
1:00:25the book so and then when that would
1:00:28happen
1:00:30we really needed that so wait for dinner
1:00:32and then we would put together
1:00:33any dinner and then crawl in the bed and
1:00:35watch a movie
1:00:36can you talk about this is like recent I
1:00:38don't you kind of like watch me like she
1:00:41lost me too what was the question even
1:00:43what is she responding to with this
1:00:46diatribe she just goes on and on and on
1:00:49and you forget what the heck she was
1:00:50even asked in the first place that's not
1:00:53an accident
1:00:54she's doing a lot of distraction and you
1:00:57would think she's talking about someone
1:00:58who's still alive this man is dead and
1:01:00even though she has these little moments
1:01:02of fake crying I would say even though
1:01:05she has these little moments of Fate
1:01:06crying that doesn't mean that she really
1:01:09sounds like she's sad for him most of
1:01:11the time she's talking about him like
1:01:14he's still here
1:01:16like a little while ago you're talking
1:01:18about now you're talking about tension
1:01:19building up and like you need space so
1:01:21have you been feeling that way lately or
1:01:24no
1:01:26okay my thing is too so you all know oh
1:01:28I hate
1:01:29I hate that you can't talk to her but
1:01:31um being his ex-wife when I say a
1:01:33monster she's a monster like it does she
1:01:35withholds her their children so I'm
1:01:38speaking to him so he gets upset about
1:01:41that and then she's like completely
1:01:42berates him
1:01:43you know what Dee didn't do though
1:01:47put him in a suitcase
1:01:49Dee didn't do that
1:01:51you can call d a monster all you want
1:01:55but D did not put him in a suitcase and
1:01:58leave him there to suffocate to death
1:02:02just a thought
1:02:04about money about the father that he is
1:02:06what he did to her all this other stuff
1:02:08it doesn't matter I mean mind you this
1:02:10is not like in recent but which is why
1:02:13he didn't even bother calling anymore
1:02:14because he knows she's going to answer
1:02:15and he's gonna have to talk to her so
1:02:16therefore he can't talk to his daughter
1:02:17the other time he talked to her made her
1:02:21talk to cookies that's on my cell phone
1:02:23too so you can see it it doesn't matter
1:02:25like
1:02:26it doesn't matter
1:02:28what does she have to do though with
1:02:29anything about what happened Sunday and
1:02:31into Monday like no I'm just saying like
1:02:33previously why the incidents what
1:02:36happened
1:02:37thank you Detective
1:02:39see this is why I couldn't be a
1:02:41detective okay because when I'm
1:02:43cross-examining somebody I get to say
1:02:46things like that that's you know she's
1:02:49getting a she's letting it slip a little
1:02:51bit that she don't like her ass all
1:02:53right she doesn't like her she's
1:02:54annoying her what does that have to do
1:02:57with the price of tea in China what does
1:03:00that have to do with what happened when
1:03:03this man was locked inside of a suitcase
1:03:06why are you diverting and distracting
1:03:09and talking about his ex
1:03:14when we are asking you about him being
1:03:17locked in this that is such a bizarre
1:03:19situation guys
1:03:22come on in here that is such a bizarre
1:03:25situation and she's doing everything but
1:03:28talking about that you might as well
1:03:29have asked for an attorney and said you
1:03:32elect to stay silent and you don't want
1:03:34to give an interview
1:03:36if you're going to talk this type of
1:03:38foolishness you should have just stayed
1:03:40silent you should always stay silent but
1:03:43especially her and she played the big
1:03:45partner on her job he had money and
1:03:48groceries and all that okay I when I
1:03:52tell you this I have no idea I have no
1:03:55idea is there anybody else at the house
1:03:57yeah
1:04:00um
1:04:02since talking yesterday do you remember
1:04:03any like
1:04:07playing what time he was zipped up in
1:04:09the luggage upstairs we started because
1:04:13we had we cleaned the house a little bit
1:04:15did some laundry you started the
1:04:16activities around 40 so yes around 4 or
1:04:184 30ish and then you just said that it
1:04:20was dark when you were playing The
1:04:21Hiding Seek and I'm just curious if you
1:04:22remember but when we were outside that's
1:04:24where we would start and talk about
1:04:26things and then eventually I was the one
1:04:28I hadn't come inside
1:04:29do you remember what time that was is
1:04:31what she's asking
1:04:34um and you said you wanna you went up to
1:04:36bed around midnight fell asleep around
1:04:3812 30 ish but those are the only times I
1:04:40have so I have four and I have midnight
1:04:42so there's a big gap so I'm just curious
1:04:44like if you recall when you went
1:04:45upstairs to hide in the shower or like
1:04:48when we started to play yeah
1:04:51well
1:04:52we went inside probably about
1:04:54I had to guess they were they weren't
1:04:55out there too long maybe about six ish
1:04:58then jump up from here outside and like
1:05:00okay well we have two beach chairs that
1:05:02are out there right just enjoy the
1:05:04weather plus it started to get dark and
1:05:06gnats and mosquitoes yeah so
1:05:09oh my God I absolutely love this Comet
1:05:13muscle carrib and I'm gonna go through
1:05:14all of your eyes of Super Chat so don't
1:05:16feel left out or anything like that I've
1:05:18been putting them on the screen but I'll
1:05:19be specifically reading them but I just
1:05:20want to answer this one such a good
1:05:22point I am giving you the defense
1:05:24attorney experience
1:05:26um perspective because at this point the
1:05:29defense attorney would have stepped in
1:05:32and said to shut up
1:05:33and don't say anything else
1:05:36we would have ended the interview but
1:05:38unfortunately we don't get to
1:05:40participate in this until the client
1:05:42invokes their right to an attorney and
1:05:44let me tell you this 99 of the time when
1:05:46someone's being questioned having this
1:05:48it makes me yell if it's not uh playing
1:05:50noise 99 of the time when
1:05:55someone is being interrogated and they
1:05:57asked for an attorney which is so rare
1:05:59that people actually exercise their
1:06:00right to an attorney under the Sixth
1:06:02Amendment so rare
1:06:06the the detective ends the interview
1:06:09when they ask for an attorney they end
1:06:12the interview and that's it they don't
1:06:14wait for the attorney to come in and
1:06:15help with the questioning it's so rare
1:06:18you know like I my husband recently did
1:06:20want to um an interview with a attorney
1:06:23and attorney-client interview with a
1:06:26detective and he was like wow I haven't
1:06:28done one of these in a long time exactly
1:06:30we usually don't get to do those you
1:06:32know why because they don't really want
1:06:34your attorney there they want you to sit
1:06:36there and incriminate yourself like an
1:06:37idiot and so that is defense attorney
1:06:40perspective to shut up that's all I can
1:06:42really say at this point in things right
1:06:45there's nothing that she's saying that's
1:06:46good for her case nothing so the defense
1:06:49attorney perspective is to shut the heck
1:06:51up
1:06:53I love that comment thank you so much
1:06:56let's go inside I don't want to be out
1:06:57here anymore okay all right let's go so
1:06:59we're doing whatever we did it for a
1:07:00while because that puzzle I don't know
1:07:01if they took it or they saw it
1:07:04um worked on the puzzle again finished
1:07:05it
1:07:06start paying well started listening to
1:07:08music for a little bit
1:07:09started paying uh can we turn the music
1:07:12off no problem start at the top paint
1:07:14whatever
1:07:16Maybe
1:07:19gosh that puzzle the virtual match for
1:07:20probably a good hour and a half so eight
1:07:23o'clock ish is when I went to hide
1:07:25upstairs
1:07:26originally no that's when we were like
1:07:28painting so then it's like okay well we
1:07:30can't I don't want to paint anymore
1:07:30let's just ah come on okay you want the
1:07:33hide and seek what he does is okay tag
1:07:35you're it we're supposed to say okay we
1:07:36know okay take off that's what we did
1:07:39and then you went upstairs and then he
1:07:41didn't come up and you came down and the
1:07:43suitcase was there originally because
1:07:44you guys were planning to do donations
1:07:46so it was already there
1:07:48um have you guys ever played the you
1:07:50said you played hide and seek like
1:07:51probably three times in your
1:07:52relationship when you have played have
1:07:54you ever zipped him up in a suitcase
1:07:55prior no okay so it was just kind of
1:07:58like that prop was there and it was
1:07:59there and it was no I've never done that
1:08:02before and that's the thing it's like
1:08:05are you zipping them up in the suitcase
1:08:06because you're afraid of him no you're
1:08:08zipping him up because you're playing a
1:08:09game and playing a game is not
1:08:11indicative of he's a danger to me I'm
1:08:15afraid of him we've been having a fight
1:08:17he's been abusing me which that really
1:08:19plays way more into the batter spouse
1:08:21syndrome you're having a playful moment
1:08:23with your with your significant other
1:08:25does not play into bad or spouse
1:08:27syndrome it just does not so good luck
1:08:31with that I guess
1:08:33Play Because Why do you say it like that
1:08:36though I would never do that you would
1:08:38never zip them up in a suitcase
1:08:40I mean we were playing no I know but I'm
1:08:43saying but you did it this time but you
1:08:46did you you zipped them up in a suitcase
1:08:49this time though you admit to that at
1:08:51least I don't know hide and seek which
1:08:53is a game so the suitcase originally is
1:08:55in our closet buried all the way to the
1:08:58back if you well I know the CSI people
1:09:01saw our closet our closet needs to be
1:09:02cleaned out really bad my son's clothes
1:09:05need to be cleaned out really bad
1:09:07because they don't fit him anymore and
1:09:07I'm tired of living on them so he took
1:09:09it upon himself including that suitcase
1:09:12to take it downstairs so we can get all
1:09:14of our clothes on donations and
1:09:15everything and just leave the whole
1:09:16thing by the clothing and shoe thing at
1:09:19my son's school attention no we're just
1:09:21I'm just asking out of the in the past
1:09:23like have you ever zipped him up in
1:09:25anything jokingly or not but obviously I
1:09:28understand you know you're claiming that
1:09:30Sunday it was a joking matter you were
1:09:32laughing he was laughing but what I'm
1:09:33just asking is in the past like is it
1:09:35something that I normally do absolutely
1:09:37no okay
1:09:40um we were actually this last game
1:09:41running out of places to hide because we
1:09:43have a town home where it's upstairs or
1:09:44downstairs so
1:09:47um okay so do you remember making any
1:09:50videos or maybe having any cover
1:09:52anything any photos videos that you
1:09:55remember doing the setup is so lovely I
1:09:58mean on your phone on Sunday
1:10:01no
1:10:02I think I took a picture of a dog okay
1:10:05but your phone is password protected you
1:10:07have the password he has the facial
1:10:09recognition so it's not like someone
1:10:10else could be on your phone no I have
1:10:12both but you have the face and the
1:10:14password yeah but he only has the face
1:10:16correct no to be able to get onto your
1:10:18phone you told me that he looks at the
1:10:19phone oh I misunderstood I thought you
1:10:21were asking me if I did yes it's me okay
1:10:22does he have access to your phone
1:10:24because you said it's the other phone
1:10:25okay how does he have access share can I
1:10:27buy your phone yeah it's right there on
1:10:28the kitchen counter okay so how did you
1:10:29get that too because it's password
1:10:30protective he'll come and get it to me
1:10:31I'll just do the face thing where
1:10:32sometimes too like he's like he'll joke
1:10:34with me and say okay I need to borrow
1:10:35your phone he'll hold up while I'm
1:10:37clicking her to something do the facial
1:10:38recognition Okay so he doesn't know the
1:10:40password and he doesn't have the facial
1:10:41recognition no he is the only other
1:10:43person that would use your phone I'm
1:10:44assuming well Lucas right but Lucas
1:10:46wasn't there Sunday right
1:10:48um
1:10:49so to your recollection no videos on
1:10:53Sunday not that I'm aware of okay
1:10:56maybe take a picture of them the two
1:10:58tests and the dogs and George and them
1:11:02dancing but I mean or it's just test
1:11:04okay
1:11:07um so I have something that I want to
1:11:08show you that we found
1:11:10um and
1:11:12so what they did for the first 30
1:11:14minutes is get her to establish her own
1:11:16version of events
1:11:18um and it's not gonna match up with the
1:11:21evidence that they actually have but
1:11:23like I said most of the time when
1:11:24they're asking a question they already
1:11:26know the answer to it it's not about
1:11:28your answer it's more about your
1:11:30reaction it's more about getting your
1:11:33version of events on the table and
1:11:35getting used to say something
1:11:36contradictory to what they already know
1:11:38every police interrogation is a setup it
1:11:42is every one of them and so is why it's
1:11:45best in your own interests especially if
1:11:47you've been mirandized please know you
1:11:50are being interrogated ask for an
1:11:52attorney and the interview tell them you
1:11:54don't want to speak to them anymore it
1:11:56was from your phone
1:12:02if you need to move it around go ahead
1:12:10no I don't remember that for everything
1:12:12you've done to me
1:12:13for everything eventually
1:12:22oh for everything you've done to me
1:12:27oh that's not good
1:12:34sounds very intentional child
1:12:38doesn't sound playful at all for
1:12:40everything you've done to me
1:12:45no I don't remember that me
1:12:48with me for everything you
1:12:49've been here
1:12:56oh okay
1:12:58that's that sound when you know you got
1:13:00somebody
1:13:06the battery doesn't last very long yeah
1:13:08it used to last a lot longer than that I
1:13:09don't know what happened okay let me
1:13:10just grab something get another laptop
1:13:18um you had a look on your face when she
1:13:20asked you if you've ever done that
1:13:21before you look kind of shocked and no
1:13:23okay why did you say it like that like
1:13:26I don't think if it was innocent if it
1:13:29was just playing you wouldn't be like no
1:13:31I've never done that before
1:13:34right but if it's intentional mean
1:13:38um meant to hurt somebody
1:13:41Reckless even then you'd be shocked to
1:13:44Nepal that someone would ever ever
1:13:46insinuate that you'd done that
1:13:47previously
1:13:49you all understand who I am where well
1:13:52tell me I mean I've always been a
1:13:54straight A student I am an outstanding
1:13:55mother to my son I fell at everything
1:13:59I
1:14:01I would not do that
1:14:06the narcissism
1:14:09wow the narcissism I excel at everything
1:14:16like getting rid of your boyfriend and
1:14:18making it seem like it was just some
1:14:20freak accident you excel at that too
1:14:23I was a straight A student but here I am
1:14:27drunk off my behind playing hide and go
1:14:29seek in and out of jail for abusing my
1:14:32boyfriend and he's dead in the suitcase
1:14:35I excel at everything not the best
1:14:39choice of words
1:14:45is it somebody in a suitcase
1:14:48well I didn't like completely Vlog it I
1:14:51mean I opened it with one finger I left
1:14:53enough in there for him to get out
1:14:56and I wasn't planning on going upstairs
1:14:57you don't hide the other person where
1:15:00you're playing hide and seek they hide
1:15:02themselves so you wouldn't need to leave
1:15:04enough room in there for him to get out
1:15:06if you're not the one who's hiding him
1:15:10only if you're locking someone in a
1:15:12suitcase do you need to leave enough
1:15:14room in order for them to get out when
1:15:15you go upstairs
1:15:17you don't need to lock someone else into
1:15:19something if you're playing hide and
1:15:20seek because you're not supposed to see
1:15:21where they go we were all children but
1:15:24we all remember how that game was played
1:15:25right
1:15:27it might have been 30 years since I
1:15:30played that game but my goodness I at
1:15:33least remember that I didn't go hide
1:15:35people where I needed to go seek them
1:15:37they hid themselves that doesn't make
1:15:40any sense
1:15:42this is a terrible interview
1:15:44terrible asleep oh she's so [ __ ]
1:15:54no it's just the way you said it you
1:15:55guys are scaring me all right
1:16:02thank you
1:16:07big time
1:16:12the detective song she got that big it
1:16:14take it long because I don't know how
1:16:15much I can take
1:16:19I don't know how much I can take
1:16:23it
1:16:24if they're scaring you in the interview
1:16:29do I have to watch this
1:16:32I continuously throw up I don't sleep I
1:16:34don't want to see it if that's okay
1:16:37you could just end the interview
1:16:41end it
1:16:43well it's on your phone
1:16:45and you can either explain it or we take
1:16:47it for what it is yeah we're just trying
1:16:49to give you these opportunities tell us
1:16:50what's going on
1:16:51sure
1:16:54it's that long two minutes
1:16:58for everything you've got to me
1:17:01[ __ ] you
1:17:05that's you
1:17:07stupid
1:17:11what's my name
1:17:18forever yeah that's when you're doing
1:17:24I can't effing breathe that's what you
1:17:27do when you choke me
1:17:40I don't want to watch that please
1:17:43okay
1:17:44last time we talked to you you said that
1:17:47you put him in the suitcase you have two
1:17:49fingers hanging out
1:17:57yeah it shows you flipping into
1:17:59different positions and him saying that
1:18:01he can't breathe so this is upside down
1:18:03so in order for him to have gotten into
1:18:06it it was slipped up right it slipped
1:18:08abnormal yeah like as if you're packing
1:18:10something so this is upside down guys
1:18:12this is killing me right now so this
1:18:13image is upside down and then this small
1:18:16video that occurred 11 minutes later it
1:18:20split over the other way
1:18:22closer to your dining room table okay
1:18:25now he's obviously still in there so he
1:18:27didn't how did that how did it go from
1:18:28the back to the front I flick it okay
1:18:32my plan was not to go upstairs and go to
1:18:34sleep
1:18:35well that's what you did but not
1:18:37intentional loan no you told me you went
1:18:39upstairs because what you were getting
1:18:41ready for bed stopped here okay
1:18:44show me where you can see any fingers
1:18:46coming out because there's the end
1:18:48it's in his head's right here so going
1:18:51like this rather than going all the way
1:18:53up it's like this
1:18:55but why is he saying I can't breathe and
1:18:57why is he pushing on it as if he can't
1:18:59get out
1:19:01there's no hole there's no fingers I
1:19:03don't see his fingers there's no holes I
1:19:05don't know what you want me to tell you
1:19:06like I don't know like what you wanted
1:19:08to tell you
1:19:17I
1:19:18I'm just showing you I'm just telling
1:19:20you what we see and what we've heard
1:19:22from them I understand he's begging to
1:19:25let for you to let him out
1:19:26you sound you're laughing in the
1:19:29beginning and then in the end it sounds
1:19:30kind of like a no it's not malicious
1:19:32well saying [ __ ] you it's not malicious
1:19:35then what is that what is [ __ ] you mean
1:19:38to you
1:19:39well like if you were to if I were to
1:19:40tell us she does like
1:19:47what is [ __ ] you mean to you
1:19:49well like if you're just an artist
1:19:52like I can call everything by a white
1:19:54woman so I like it
1:19:57what is [ __ ] you mean to you
1:20:00well like if you were just if artists
1:20:02like I can call everything by a white
1:20:05woman so okay that is what she said I
1:20:07get called Everything But a white woman
1:20:10oh
1:20:12can someone translate what that's
1:20:14supposed to mean
1:20:16I mean he calls me out of my name so I
1:20:18can say [ __ ] you
1:20:20I my intention was not to leave him in
1:20:23there
1:20:24but you did though please understand
1:20:26that my intention was not to leave him
1:20:29in there but you went upstairs thinking
1:20:31that he could get him to allow but the
1:20:33video shows
1:20:35his fingers
1:20:38and then 30 minutes later he didn't show
1:20:39and he's totally and I understand
1:20:46first guy in there
1:20:48both of us so how long was he in there
1:20:49for like this video is at 11 12 when it
1:20:52starts so was he in there for like a
1:20:53long time prior to supporting this no
1:20:56no so it goes from funny to no longer
1:20:59funny but you're the only one laughing
1:21:00but I didn't think that he
1:21:02was like panicky like I didn't I so
1:21:06pushing Up On A Suitcase saying Sarah
1:21:08Sarah
1:21:09I can't breathe
1:21:11George has done that in the past before
1:21:13too where it's just like he thinks that
1:21:15he's well with me kind of thing where
1:21:16it's like he's never been lost in a
1:21:17suitcase that's how he couldn't get out
1:21:19so it had I thought it was
1:21:21crying wolf kind of thing okay and again
1:21:24but nowhere in there is he laughing if
1:21:26you joking he is begging
1:21:28and you're the only one laughing okay
1:21:30and you're the only one saying
1:21:32derogatory comments like you're mad no
1:21:36please don't I don't mean to sound
1:21:39negative and I don't know if I can say
1:21:40this but like it's like you guys are
1:21:42kind of trying to like feed me like no
1:21:43I'm just trying to show you a video that
1:21:45you no longer want to watch because you
1:21:46probably don't want to know the outcome
1:21:47of how and what you said well I know
1:21:49what you know you know what's on that
1:21:51video now no you remember making that
1:21:53video oh why don't you remember making
1:21:55the video probably because we had been
1:21:56drinking I thought you weren't drunk
1:21:59girl I thought you couldn't get drunk
1:22:02the contradictions
1:22:06so the bad woman's case in Florida is
1:22:09ynv state in that case this woman was in
1:22:13an abusive marriage and she shot her
1:22:15husband in self-defense
1:22:16she was found guilty but on appeal the
1:22:19Florida Court um Supreme Court said that
1:22:21she didn't have any duty to retreat when
1:22:23she was in her home she was actively
1:22:25being attacked at the time
1:22:32so
1:22:37just wanted to distinguish some things
1:22:39that's a 1999 case
1:22:46wow
1:22:49she's clearly not being attacked by him
1:22:51at this time
1:22:55that's how Florida
1:22:57seems to be interpreting it
1:23:05just because I went upstairs
1:23:09you were not drunk you said that you had
1:23:11your way about you you said he had his
1:23:13list about you you said that you don't
1:23:15like not having your whips in my
1:23:17experience that somebody cannot remember
1:23:19she said I was I need to be Compass
1:23:21mentis which she used that term
1:23:24correctly and now she's trying to back
1:23:26off and say oh the reason I didn't free
1:23:28him when he was saying Sarah please I
1:23:30can't breathe is because I was tired and
1:23:33I was drunk and I didn't realize
1:23:35I thought you were Compass Menses though
1:23:38you see how the beginning of her
1:23:40interrogation set her up for failure
1:23:44doing something to the extent of making
1:23:46two videos and a video and taking a
1:23:48photo
1:23:49they are intoxicated okay I understand
1:23:52where you're all coming from well I'm
1:23:53trying to make sense of it we're trying
1:23:54to figure out we're trying to figure out
1:23:56this video we're listening
1:23:58I did like
1:24:00like playing and then like I thought it
1:24:03was
1:24:04my plan was not to go upstairs and go to
1:24:07sleep my plan was not he'll be up here
1:24:09any minute but you willingly went
1:24:11upstairs and went to sleep
1:24:13my pain wasn't also to leave him in the
1:24:15big case
1:24:17because I went upstairs and then I fell
1:24:19asleep but why didn't you consciously
1:24:22think
1:24:22he's asking to come out I didn't do it
1:24:24intentionally what do you think is going
1:24:26to happen if you leave somebody in a
1:24:28confined space like that
1:24:29well I thought by not giving it up all
1:24:32the way it would be okay my plan was not
1:24:35to leave him in
1:24:37waiting for him to come upstairs
1:24:41I fell asleep you said you're up there
1:24:4430 minutes after 30 minutes somebody not
1:24:45coming up
1:24:46knowing that you that the last time you
1:24:48saw him was in the suitcase 30 minutes
1:24:49later you're like
1:24:51um maybe I should go check on him maybe
1:24:53I shouldn't no that didn't cross your
1:24:55mind because like that's like an
1:24:57assumption like that's what you all are
1:24:58thinking just we're asking it's the
1:25:00whole world
1:25:02it's the drinking
1:25:06that's what it is
1:25:07it's the drinking okay I thought it was
1:25:10like I thought he was okay like I didn't
1:25:13that's telling you he's not you were
1:25:15Compass mentus you said it
1:25:18devastating words you were Compass
1:25:21mentors
1:25:22but now it's the drinking the
1:25:24contradictions abound are you telling
1:25:27you Sarah I can't breathe he's saved
1:25:28your name and you're like that's my name
1:25:29don't wear it out okay that's how we are
1:25:33with each other like he has
1:25:36nobody understands our relationship
1:25:40I certainly don't understand your
1:25:41relationship not when someone ends up
1:25:43dead inside of a suitcase I definitely
1:25:45don't get it
1:25:46never had it before would you leave
1:25:48someone else in a suitcase would you
1:25:50leave Lucas in a suitcase jokingly
1:25:51because it was a joking matter you put
1:25:52him in there jokingly would you leave
1:25:53Lucas generally in there and you love
1:25:55Lucas right that I can either I wouldn't
1:25:58do that to him so I I just well it's not
1:26:01like again I don't think you all
1:26:02understand like it's
1:26:04I mean it's not my that was not my
1:26:06intention
1:26:07y'all don't have any idea what I've done
1:26:09for him but by your act and that's
1:26:11exactly right you get to the point where
1:26:13you've done so much for somebody and
1:26:14they don't show you any appreciation hey
1:26:15Dad
1:26:17not by by your words in the video in the
1:26:21video you said that's how I feel when
1:26:23you choke me
1:26:28that's not fear that's retaliation
1:26:32I don't get that because you bring up
1:26:34the fact that when he's choking you you
1:26:36can't breathe that's how you felt when
1:26:37he cheated on you you couldn't breathe
1:26:39and you verbally several times
1:26:47on his phone shooting
1:26:50exactly it's your definition of cheating
1:26:52though so I mean
1:26:54and that's what you told her in the
1:26:56video that I couldn't breathe when you
1:26:58cheated on me
1:26:59no is that how I felt when he said Sarah
1:27:02I can't breathe
1:27:03I don't know
1:27:05this is
1:27:07what would they say that somebody told
1:27:08you that they had done this right is
1:27:11there somebody in a suitcase and went up
1:27:12and went to bed do you all not think so
1:27:14you all think that it's like oh good I
1:27:15got him in there now I'm gonna go to
1:27:17sleep is that what you guys are trying
1:27:18to assume are trying to like we're just
1:27:21the video
1:27:23assume that's what happened you got him
1:27:25into the suitcase zipped it up he begged
1:27:28you to let him out on video
1:27:29contradicting what you said previously
1:27:31and you went to sleep
1:27:33that's literally you don't even deny
1:27:35that that's what happened
1:27:37is very portraying of the opposite of
1:27:40what you told us it does not it is not
1:27:42leading up it is not matching what
1:27:44statement you gave us in the car so and
1:27:47that's why we want to know and I don't
1:27:49remember doing this no injuries are not
1:27:51consistent with what you've told us so
1:27:54we have a lot of inconsistencies in this
1:27:56video
1:27:58explained itself it really truly does
1:28:00you don't think that I had thought
1:28:03about the video or thought about it but
1:28:05no again if you don't mind please so you
1:28:07all are the attitude is like oh good I
1:28:11got him in there now I'm gonna go to
1:28:12sleep is that what you all are assuming
1:28:15when that's what you told us
1:28:17and the video
1:28:20yeah I mean
1:28:22I'm not gonna say
1:28:33but it had the hole in it
1:28:36and you're claiming that it had a
1:28:38paperclipse so he just laid there and
1:28:40voluntarily died
1:28:42is what you're trying to say he
1:28:43committed suicide is what you're saying
1:28:46okay
1:28:48that's what assisted you in doing it
1:28:50that's what you told us when I had my
1:28:51sweatshirt that I thought it had a paper
1:28:53clip on it it's got the zipper part is
1:28:55broken that's yeah which is why we were
1:28:57gonna have done it yeah I I just you
1:28:59were able to unzip it from the outside
1:29:00very easily because that's the way
1:29:02they're designed but you could on the
1:29:04inside too
1:29:09where the hole was
1:29:11questions that need answers
1:29:14if you did not lock him in there and
1:29:17refuse to let him out and he had every
1:29:19single opportunity to get him get
1:29:21himself out why did he just lay there
1:29:23and die
1:29:25you know I found out in in a case of
1:29:27mind that compression is something that
1:29:29can kill you not just someone like
1:29:31holding their hands up but being
1:29:32compressed
1:29:34you know
1:29:36being compressed down upon can kill you
1:29:40why didn't he just come out as he felt
1:29:43himself expiring
1:29:45that doesn't make any sense
1:29:47I don't know
1:29:50that's what I'm saying like he's in one
1:29:52position and where his head would be we
1:29:54should be able to see fingers and then
1:29:56when I flipped over onto this right side
1:29:58again his head is closer to us facing
1:30:00the video so we should be able to see
1:30:01fingers and we don't see anything we see
1:30:02no movement of him trying to unzip it or
1:30:04physically unzipping and all we see is
1:30:06pushing up trying to push out of it
1:30:08please do not assume I'm not assuming I
1:30:12haven't changed anything I follow
1:30:13evidence but my intention was not again
1:30:15oh good I got him in there now I'm just
1:30:17gonna go to sleep what do you think
1:30:18someone that knows nothing about this or
1:30:21hears please do not assume
1:30:26please do not assume the attitude on
1:30:30this woman like they are so stupid for
1:30:33even asking her these questions of
1:30:36course he could always get out
1:30:39it's not her fault she went to bed and
1:30:40forgot he was in there and forget your
1:30:43ears when you hear her saying that's
1:30:45what happens to you oh well
1:30:49forget your ears when you hear her
1:30:51laughing it was him laughing instead he
1:30:55was just playing up until he died
1:30:59he played hide and go seek where I knew
1:31:02that he was where I knew that he was
1:31:04what's wrong with you guys
1:31:08please do not assume
1:31:12just a little bit like oh they were
1:31:14playing around in a suitcase
1:31:18that's what happened
1:31:19you let him out before I mean you put
1:31:20him in so why don't you take him out
1:31:22because I was upstairs and I fell asleep
1:31:24no before you go upstairs you like
1:31:25consciously had to walk upstairs do you
1:31:27I mean you obviously remember going to
1:31:28bed because you were able to give me a
1:31:29time frame on that and you specifically
1:31:31told me that upstairs
1:31:33my intention is not for this to happen
1:31:37I am sick about it
1:31:40I've never done anything like this
1:31:42before in the past I am
1:31:44also battered woman goes against it
1:31:46wasn't my intention for this to happen
1:31:48those two things don't go together
1:31:50because when in batter woman syndrome
1:31:53you meant to kill the person you
1:31:55absolutely meant to kill the person but
1:31:57you were doing it in self-defense
1:32:00where at the moment they're not directly
1:32:03attacking you but they had just attacked
1:32:05you and now they're neutralized in some
1:32:07way because they're asleep maybe or
1:32:08they're laying down and so you get them
1:32:10before they can wake up and get you
1:32:12that's really what that's all about you
1:32:14do it on purpose because you're
1:32:16defending yourself
1:32:18doing it on accident is not bad or woman
1:32:23I hope we're all clear on that
1:32:27[ __ ]
1:32:29especially with that I thought I
1:32:31couldn't sleep last night
1:32:33I don't know here's the things you tell
1:32:35us the last night you you visited
1:32:37remember this when you told us last
1:32:38night that he was laughing you were
1:32:40laughing you put him in the suitcase he
1:32:42has two fingers sticking out and you go
1:32:43to bed now we see something totally
1:32:45different and it actually shows you
1:32:46upset and again using uh derogatory
1:32:50terms to him when he's begging for his
1:32:52life to get out of that suitcase so so
1:32:54we're assuming we're not assuming so it
1:32:57just happened to be that whenever I was
1:32:59videotaping or doing whatever else it
1:33:00was it had just happened to not have
1:33:01that in it
1:33:03and you also in the video you can't see
1:33:05any holes there's nowhere in that where
1:33:07the zipper separates and you can see a
1:33:09hole if there's a hole he's pushing on
1:33:10it begging you to get out we should
1:33:12probably see that
1:33:13that whole thing especially when I'm
1:33:15able to get out alcohol
1:33:18but the video
1:33:20shows him attempting
1:33:23so that's that's just what we're trying
1:33:24to figure out I don't know if maybe you
1:33:26had too much to drink you dipped it all
1:33:27the way and then you know I did not tip
1:33:29it up all the wings successful
1:33:31I did not zip it up all the way
1:33:35this is horrific okay horrific you think
1:33:40I don't think I'll ever be right because
1:33:43of this everybody right dealing with
1:33:45everything else that I have in my life
1:33:46personally and then this
1:33:49whom I loved
1:33:52it was not intentional okay I will put
1:33:55my hand on the Bible it was not
1:33:56intentional
1:33:57I would not do that to him nor anyone
1:34:00else
1:34:02not intentional
1:34:05we went up to bed
1:34:09how did you not intentionally go to bed
1:34:11you said you went up upstairs and got
1:34:13into bed that's intentionally going to
1:34:14bed waiting for him
1:34:16and he doesn't come but you don't go
1:34:17down to check on him so I happen to go
1:34:19to sleep when I say go to sleep
1:34:23what is a bed for
1:34:26going to sleep right so you go down okay
1:34:32put that pressure you kept telling us
1:34:34hey I wasn't intoxicated I wasn't this I
1:34:36wasn't that
1:34:37being drunk and intoxicated which now
1:34:40they're confronting her with what she
1:34:42previously said versus what they already
1:34:45know objectively to be true this is the
1:34:48real uncomfortable part of any police
1:34:50interrogation
1:34:52drinking but okay
1:34:54so if you weren't intoxicated
1:34:55then why would you ever leave somebody
1:34:57else that's begging to get out that's
1:34:59telling you they can't breathe
1:35:01if I hadn't been drinking you you still
1:35:03think it would be the same thing where
1:35:04it's like hop in I'm gonna go to sleep
1:35:07what is that what you all are trying to
1:35:09do to prepare to do anything I'm simply
1:35:12asking you to explain to me what
1:35:14happened
1:35:16everything was fine and dandy
1:35:23for me to tell you this again
1:35:26how is that battered woman syndrome when
1:35:29everything was fine and dandy you see
1:35:31what I mean [ __ ] her lawyers are going
1:35:34to do the best they can with what they
1:35:35got
1:35:38thank you Mariah I'm always gonna use
1:35:40that for the rest of my life the Lord's
1:35:43gonna do the best that they can with
1:35:45what they got but
1:35:48she's sinking the ship right here how is
1:35:51it battered woman mind you I've been
1:35:53without him for a day now
1:35:58I don't
1:35:59know
1:36:02I I mean I don't know what you all want
1:36:04me to tell you because this was not and
1:36:06anyway shape or form hand on the Bible
1:36:08intentional okay
1:36:14I didn't mean to leave him there that's
1:36:16what I'm trying to tell you you gotta
1:36:18have been walked away how is that not
1:36:19intentionally leaving him because I'm
1:36:20looking at the whole knowing that it's
1:36:22fair
1:36:23he'll get out no problem
1:36:27you say you're up for 30 minutes and he
1:36:30doesn't come up you don't go down and
1:36:31check on him I'm in the bed you even
1:36:33moved you moved you admit to moving the
1:36:36suitcase like over so you roll it out
1:36:39like it's not like I said in one of
1:36:41their baby like that
1:36:45all right
1:36:49[ __ ] you hey excuse the language but
1:36:52that's what she said
1:36:58this is her lawyers trying to advance
1:37:01the better woman defense
1:37:07[Music]
1:37:12better women is a ridiculous defense
1:37:16give it her behavior right now
1:37:21it's ridiculous it's untenable
1:37:25and now she's getting angry and that's
1:37:29gonna really come across well to the
1:37:30jury they're gonna really think oh this
1:37:33is a calm and rational person who was
1:37:35just having a great day when she forgot
1:37:37to let her boyfriend out of the suitcase
1:37:40you guys are killing me right now I just
1:37:43want you to hear me
1:37:45that's how you talk to me most the time
1:37:52I don't know how I don't know how
1:37:54you want me to say it
1:37:56I'm just trying to figure out what you
1:37:58would expect to happen to somebody when
1:37:59you leave them in a suitcase I didn't
1:38:01mean to leave him in there
1:38:03what's your reasoning for um not calling
1:38:06911 sooner because I didn't know what to
1:38:08do and how horrific it was
1:38:10I called Ryan in like what five minutes
1:38:12later I called you guys not even five
1:38:14minutes nonetheless that I had to like
1:38:16try to I was trying to do CPR
1:38:18I was trying to do CPR I had to get him
1:38:20out
1:38:21and try to do CPR
1:38:23and then called you guys
1:38:25and it was continually doing PDR with
1:38:28the dispatch on the phone
1:38:29where you had me count out loud to help
1:38:32me focus on what I was doing
1:38:36wait hold up what does Sarah just say
1:38:38hold on
1:38:40and it was and try to do CPR and then
1:38:44called you guys
1:38:46and it was continually doing CPR with
1:38:48the dispatch on the phone
1:38:50where you had me count out loud to help
1:38:53me focus on what I was doing
1:38:56um
1:38:59it just
1:39:01I don't know how
1:39:04I mean you you can sit here all day long
1:39:07so you called your ex and then you
1:39:09called 9-1-1
1:39:11and say I thought he was going to get
1:39:12himself out but that
1:39:14he didn't and you went upstairs and you
1:39:18stayed there for 30 minutes before you
1:39:20fell asleep but can I say too I chose
1:39:22not to ever at any point during that 30
1:39:24minutes walk back down and check on him
1:39:26no wait one second because I know like
1:39:28with you all and then like would you
1:39:30continually ask me like time frames time
1:39:32frame time frames where I told you like
1:39:33I don't bother even looking at the clock
1:39:34most of the time so it's like a
1:39:36guesstimate so I for all I know I was
1:39:38maybe it was 10 minutes
1:39:40but the point is you left the living
1:39:42room where he was begging for help and
1:39:45went upstairs how long you were there
1:39:50again okay so when he asked to be let
1:39:53out like what you're reasoning for not
1:39:55letting him out when I was upstairs no
1:39:57when he's asking on the video he asked
1:39:59multiple times he has to be let out I
1:40:01can't breathe what like why didn't you
1:40:02let him out
1:40:04well number one number one I had no idea
1:40:06I was going to end like that okay number
1:40:08one okay uh number two just
1:40:11you know what
1:40:12I'll give you five minutes or so in
1:40:14there that's I'll give you five minutes
1:40:15oh oh that's not good that's not good
1:40:21I'll give you so you did intentionally
1:40:23leave him in there
1:40:26you did do it on purpose you did not
1:40:30just forget about him you wanted him to
1:40:33stay in there and suffer I'll give you
1:40:35five minutes in there because he was
1:40:36suffering he was telling you he couldn't
1:40:38breathe
1:40:39you were gonna put him on time out in a
1:40:41tiny little suitcase where his body was
1:40:42all constricted
1:40:46that's not good well based off the video
1:40:48One video is at 11 12 and the next one's
1:40:5011 23 so you actually gave him at least
1:40:5211 minutes per video recording so my
1:40:54thing is when I stopped he asked
1:40:57multiple times I mean why why did you
1:40:58not let him know it's just this
1:41:00information to be honest with you I mean
1:41:03government professional
1:41:05no just well that's what you're saying
1:41:07in the video
1:41:08this is for this this is for all the
1:41:10things you've done to me that's
1:41:11literally punishment this is what you
1:41:13got this is what you make me feel like
1:41:15see and then it's all backfired on me
1:41:18like it's all that as it should
1:41:22they're on you he didn't lock you in the
1:41:24suitcase you locked him and him in the
1:41:25case and I understand the severity of
1:41:27this I just it does it's awful I know
1:41:30okay whoa it's awful no
1:41:34and I will tell you about this right now
1:41:36too I will never drink alcohol again
1:41:38okay like I will never break alcohol
1:41:40again I don't care what it is in any way
1:41:41shape or form
1:41:43but let's get back to this what trick
1:41:46this is an after school special this is
1:41:48an anti-drinking campaign this isn't a
1:41:51mad you know commercial Mothers Against
1:41:53Drunk Driving this is a murder
1:41:55investigation you drinking alcohol is
1:41:58the least of your problems right now
1:42:00that is not the lesson that you need to
1:42:01learn from this okay sure reduce your
1:42:04consumption of alcohol but you sounded
1:42:06pretty with it when you were saying
1:42:07that's what you get for all the things
1:42:09that you did did to me and telling him
1:42:11Fu and laughing at him while he was
1:42:13saying he couldn't breathe I think the
1:42:15lessons to learn from this is not to
1:42:17lock people in suitcases and leave them
1:42:19there to suffocate to death I think
1:42:22that's the lesson here
1:42:26was the reason for leaving him when he's
1:42:29begging to be let out I don't understand
1:42:30that what I have a feeling was and again
1:42:32it's the whole time frame thing yeah I
1:42:35don't care about a time frame so in the
1:42:37back saying
1:42:38did you say [ __ ] you wait so like for
1:42:42like the whole few minutes that he was
1:42:43in there like I minimum 11. but yes
1:42:47it's a few
1:42:49minutes
1:42:50one video
1:43:00let me out and you say [ __ ] you why
1:43:02don't you just let him out what are you
1:43:03trying for them
1:43:09there's actually something in your head
1:43:10that you were thinking of when he was
1:43:11asking to let be let out and you're like
1:43:13again it's the boy calling wolf
1:43:16okay but where does where's this game
1:43:18end I don't you're saying this is a game
1:43:20you guys obviously like the wrong way
1:43:23so what was your intention for leaving
1:43:24them in there and it's not fair it is
1:43:27not fair you guys are trying to again oh
1:43:30he's in there night night
1:43:33how is it not fair you're alive he's
1:43:35dead
1:43:36you complaining of fairness is the
1:43:39height of irony right now oh my gosh
1:43:42that's what happened
1:43:46how's it not you got up off the couch
1:43:48walked up a flight of stairs and got in
1:43:51your bed thinking he was going to get
1:43:52out he didn't and you still didn't go
1:43:54down
1:43:58he's begging for his wife or something
1:44:00but he can't breathe I don't know what
1:44:01you want to tell you like I don't
1:44:03I didn't intentionally mean for this to
1:44:06happen
1:44:07why you left him in there
1:44:10that's my only issue like what am I
1:44:12supposed to write so my thing is though
1:44:14it's what I have a feeling is I went
1:44:16upstairs and just hit the bed kind of
1:44:18thing but again I'm thinking he'll be up
1:44:21here in a minute
1:44:22but then I
1:44:24go out well my question is why don't you
1:44:26just let him out prior to going out I
1:44:28don't know why
1:44:30he's begging to be let out he's not
1:44:31laughing he's not having fun I thought
1:44:35this was supposed to be fun you were
1:44:36laughing before before you said he was
1:44:38laughing you were laughing you went
1:44:39upstairs he had his fingers out of the
1:44:40bag and he was playing well obviously
1:44:42that's not the case so are you guys so
1:44:44what is it you're trying to like am I
1:44:46just trying to figure out why
1:44:48why what what what do you mean by what
1:44:51is it you're they're trying to get you
1:44:53to incriminate yourself in a murder
1:44:54stupid
1:44:55sorry shouldn't have said that but come
1:44:57on
1:44:59and this is why people need to stop
1:45:01talking to police without an attorney
1:45:03present
1:45:05what do you mean by what are you guys
1:45:06really trying to what are you trying to
1:45:07insinuate that you're a murderer that's
1:45:09what they're the guy is dead they're
1:45:12interrogating you they're insinuating
1:45:14that you're a murderer
1:45:19foreign
1:45:23I didn't have any motivation it was me
1:45:26he and I having a great day fooling
1:45:28around and being stupid and apparently
1:45:30me going upstairs and going in the bed
1:45:33not going to sleep or it's like I'm
1:45:35tired now I'm gonna go to sleep that's
1:45:36that's excluding you know it's a good
1:45:38analogy for the day excluding the fact
1:45:39that he's got a a bump on the back of
1:45:41his head up on the front of his head and
1:45:43his lip is busted
1:45:44I don't know what you all want me to
1:45:47tell you like this is not fair at all at
1:45:51all that people are assuming that that's
1:45:53from me
1:45:55if you were today's opposite you were in
1:45:57the suitcase and you're asking to be let
1:45:59out would you hope that that person
1:46:01would let you out like you're asking to
1:46:03be loud should they not let you out
1:46:06to eventually I'm guessing I mean I
1:46:09don't
1:46:10I'm blaming it on the line
1:46:12oh
1:46:15so you guys are blame it on
1:46:18alcohol blame it on the uh
1:46:23it's not funny it's ridiculous it's
1:46:25ridiculous and it makes me so angry
1:46:27because she literally started this
1:46:28interrogation with
1:46:30I just I feel so sorry for her defense
1:46:34attorneys and she's been through a bunch
1:46:36of them by now now that the case is
1:46:37nearing for trial in July she's been
1:46:39through a whole bunch of defense
1:46:40attorneys I feel so sucked for anyone
1:46:42who's ever touched her case because you
1:46:44know they're watching this interrogation
1:46:46like oh my God oh my God please stop
1:46:49talking
1:46:51you started the interview nobody was
1:46:53drunk we were happy everything was okay
1:46:54so now we're in the middle of the
1:46:56interview and you're like oh it's just
1:46:57the wine I'll never drink again I was
1:46:59Compass mentis I'll never drink again it
1:47:01was too much wine that's why it happened
1:47:06like assuming that YouTube famous
1:47:10but you guys are assuming that that's
1:47:13what I did no by when I did this
1:47:16especially what happened when you got
1:47:18there you said you pulled him out of a
1:47:19suitcase you said you went up you went
1:47:21to bed we're not assuming that these are
1:47:23the facts that you're telling us oh I'm
1:47:25tired oh I'm tired well that's what you
1:47:27told me on a sworn recorded statement
1:47:28yesterday because when I said oh you
1:47:30went upstairs and passed out you were
1:47:31like no I did not pass out you got
1:47:32attitude with me because you were
1:47:34assuming you thought I was assuming that
1:47:35you were drunk so that's that's an
1:47:37assumption that was an assumption wise
1:47:38that you passed out and guess what you
1:47:40corrected me you were very adamant about
1:47:42the fact that both of you had your
1:47:43WhatsApp what's your favorite word to
1:47:44use competences
1:47:48you've used it today too to say that you
1:47:50guys are within your within your web
1:47:52there's two two empty bottles of wine
1:47:54not but I can't drink both of them I
1:47:56think you did
1:47:58there's receipts for this yeah
1:48:01didn't because they weren't there the
1:48:03day before so why Publix receipts from
1:48:05yesterday
1:48:06only thing purchased on either one was a
1:48:08single bottle of wine two of them so we
1:48:10have each bottle of wine that was empty
1:48:12in your garbage can that you purchased
1:48:13yesterday or you purchased but you said
1:48:15what it consumes together
1:48:19so it's not even worth though so this is
1:48:22but
1:48:24so I don't know what you guys are
1:48:28I don't I don't know we were just hoping
1:48:30that we could figure out why you what
1:48:32was our motivation there was no
1:48:33motivation
1:48:34wow but we're watching a video that
1:48:36after talking to you everything was
1:48:38laughing and fun now we're watching a
1:48:41video where it's not laughing and fun
1:48:42he's begging for his life and you are in
1:48:44a very angry voice telling him to [ __ ]
1:48:46off no yeah that's absolutely what it
1:48:49was it's not assumptions the videos
1:48:51there we played it for you
1:48:53so you guys think that I intentionally
1:48:57yeah
1:48:59I walked up the stairs and got into bed
1:49:02that was intentional there's no way
1:49:04getting around that you intentionally
1:49:05did that nobody drug you up there you
1:49:07didn't float up the damn stairs okay
1:49:08well it's not fair it's not fair that
1:49:11you guys keep trying to say that that's
1:49:12what I did
1:49:14I don't know what to tell you you told
1:49:16us that you didn't go upstairs
1:49:20there was a hole in a suitcase
1:49:25doing no good did it
1:49:27but he can push it okay
1:49:31with him pushing up if you could push it
1:49:34open why wouldn't you have gotten at
1:49:35himself why would you beg you to open it
1:49:36okay
1:49:39okay if somebody could do something for
1:49:41themselves they're going to do it they
1:49:42don't need assistance unless they need
1:49:43assistance
1:49:44and start doing it because he couldn't
1:49:46because it was all the way dipped okay
1:49:50I occasionally didn't do it that I
1:49:52intentionally did not do
1:49:54what zip it all the way
1:49:58he nor I nor I well he's dead as a
1:50:01result on each other he is dead as a
1:50:04result
1:50:06on each other no
1:50:08no
1:50:09I don't have anything
1:50:11to be right he doesn't
1:50:13whatever that is whatever this whatever
1:50:14it is see this is what happens it's not
1:50:17fair that you guys just because he has
1:50:20those automatically blame it on me like
1:50:21what about when you had your injuries
1:50:24and he gets arrested
1:50:25Fair really like really exact same thing
1:50:27yeah he has injuries you have injuries
1:50:30like what does that mean I don't have
1:50:32any injuries correct because he and I
1:50:34have not been at it with one another so
1:50:36every time that you guys fight you you
1:50:37both hit each other so you should have
1:50:38probably gone to jail all those times
1:50:39that he went for domestic well the one
1:50:41time I did
1:50:42but he comes just want to say
1:50:47that her level of yelling at the
1:50:50detectives who are questioning her is
1:50:51quite kind of unique I've seen people
1:50:53get heated in interrogations I have not
1:50:56seen people have the sustained yelling
1:50:58at the detectives
1:51:01during the interrogations that's that's
1:51:03kind of unique to just do it the entire
1:51:05time it's it's a little strange to me
1:51:06pointy completely
1:51:08trash the police report because that's
1:51:11nothing what happened because the reason
1:51:13why I got taken it was because my story
1:51:14was never been his
1:51:16so I'm being portrayed as like this
1:51:19abuser
1:51:21we're not saying that he doesn't abuse
1:51:22you absolutely so I'm the one who thinks
1:51:25portrayed us
1:51:27because I have never dealt with anything
1:51:29like this before I don't know what to do
1:51:31how to do it and I always know what to
1:51:33do and how to do it
1:51:34this I don't know so I it's the second
1:51:37time she said
1:51:39she said always know what to do
1:51:42I need a mental health professional in
1:51:44on this interrogation that is
1:51:47why are you so invested in them thinking
1:51:50that you're so with it
1:51:53I would hope that you don't know how to
1:51:55handle a situation like this I would
1:51:57hope you've never locked another person
1:51:58in a suitcase before
1:52:00but
1:52:04um
1:52:05if wishes were horses Beggars would ride
1:52:07no like what's going on or like
1:52:11we are simply trying to find out as well
1:52:14again we got one side of the story
1:52:16you're telling us we're going with what
1:52:18you're saying but then we find stuff
1:52:19that negates what you're telling us and
1:52:21I don't even remember doing that okay
1:52:24you're telling us that we're assuming
1:52:25stuff but what we're simply doing is
1:52:27telling you what we saw in the video I
1:52:29understand because I don't remember that
1:52:32doesn't mean it didn't happen just
1:52:33because you don't remember it right so
1:52:36if the texting thinks something about me
1:52:37like what's is the one
1:52:40that's texting oh no I'm texting so I
1:52:44don't think you guys are scaring me so
1:52:45like I don't know like what to expect I
1:52:47mean I had questions of things you
1:52:48should be scared and you should get up
1:52:50out of this interrogation ask for an
1:52:52attorney but clearly you're not going to
1:52:53do that you have to be taken care of
1:52:54like I don't what are your questions I
1:52:57have one last question
1:52:59you realize you're the person that
1:53:01killed him right I thought about that
1:53:03okay you left them in the bag when he's
1:53:04begging you saying I can't breathe let
1:53:06me out and you said [ __ ] you and you got
1:53:08up off the couch and went upstairs and
1:53:09left him in that bag
1:53:14I would never do that to George you did
1:53:16not intentionally
1:53:19know that I don't know that
1:53:22you got up and you went up to bed
1:53:25alcohol is a shitty thing
1:53:34you all please sit down listen to me you
1:53:38all listen
1:53:41I I am blown away by her level of
1:53:44aggression in this interview ma'am you
1:53:47are not in control in the situation you
1:53:50are a suspect soon to be a defendant
1:53:54these are two detectives there's police
1:53:59outside the door if there's guns
1:54:01everywhere if you don't set your ass
1:54:02down
1:54:04she cannot control herself
1:54:07did not
1:54:09and she thinks she can force them with
1:54:12her I get everything my way is basically
1:54:14what she's been saying and she thinks
1:54:16she can use her power of personality to
1:54:20force them to see things her way know
1:54:23this know that I did not do that on
1:54:26purpose even though there's video of you
1:54:28doing it on purpose it's on video not
1:54:33intentionally kill him
1:54:36I don't know what it is I need to do or
1:54:39how to do it or what to say or how to
1:54:41say it but you're but what was your
1:54:42intention everyone knows everyone knows
1:54:44everything that I've done for George and
1:54:46love him and continuously help him
1:54:48throughout his life with me and made him
1:54:50a happier better person and everybody
1:54:52everyone knows that everybody has a
1:54:54limit so it's like okay so while we're
1:54:57in a good place right now I'm gonna snap
1:54:59is that while we're in a good level
1:55:00right now okay absolutely I got you on
1:55:03video screaming [ __ ] you
1:55:05this is what it feels like when you're
1:55:06choking me this is what it feels like
1:55:08which was however long ago
1:55:10videos from last night clearly so it
1:55:13wasn't that yeah they're still feeling
1:55:15for that
1:55:16and this is how she just buries herself
1:55:20more and more and more well that choking
1:55:22was from however long ago so how can you
1:55:25advance better women's syndrome when
1:55:27you're saying that it was a long time
1:55:28ago and you weren't currently under
1:55:30threat from him
1:55:31and everything was good and you didn't
1:55:33feel like he was a threat to you
1:55:37you wouldn't say it if you didn't feel
1:55:38it
1:55:39but I would never do that but it
1:55:41happened I did it but that's after being
1:55:42playful but no one's having a good day
1:55:44no one's laughing except you everything
1:55:46I'm trying I would hate to see a bad day
1:55:51the person that I'm not
1:55:53nor have or will I ever be or are you a
1:55:57different person when you're drunk
1:55:59people have different personalities
1:56:00after they consume alcohol it depends
1:56:02it's like it's well you're sober now so
1:56:05so for you not
1:56:10it's both of us
1:56:12it's both of us and it's again
1:56:14it's not fair that you all are as soon
1:56:19we asked you where they came from I have
1:56:21no idea well nobody else was there so
1:56:23nobody else I have no idea Christ
1:56:31in the back
1:56:32and then you flip the bag around several
1:56:35times I didn't do that intentionally you
1:56:36didn't intentionally flip the background
1:56:38no why would I do that will you
1:56:41it's a whole human being he's a person
1:56:44he's a man in that bag what do you mean
1:56:46he didn't intentionally flip the
1:56:47background that's amazing that doesn't
1:56:49make any sense I don't get that at all
1:56:53when he was upside down right now you
1:56:56can't get in a suitcase upside down
1:56:58because the
1:57:05several different
1:57:07so uh it shows one like she just said it
1:57:10had been on his back with the lid open
1:57:12for him to get in there for you to zip
1:57:13it up then it shows it on the other side
1:57:15with him in it so you had to flip it to
1:57:16there then there's another video where
1:57:18it's on his back again so you had to put
1:57:19it like this please I'm leaving it like
1:57:21this I did not intentionally do this
1:57:25no malicious content or effort was
1:57:28towards this no malicious no malicious
1:57:31content
1:57:40in your voice you can hear the
1:57:42maliciousness the [ __ ] you is very very
1:57:44you don't talk to people like that
1:57:46that's not like a common like hey Scott
1:57:48[ __ ] you that's not that's not common
1:57:50it's not something people do and no one
1:57:52that sees that is gonna think that okay
1:57:54so we were trying to give you an
1:57:55opportunity and and it is what it is
1:57:58there's no maliciousness towards that
1:58:04to happen but you went upstairs and went
1:58:07to bed
1:58:08or maybe you passed out I don't know
1:58:09waiting for him and the whole time frame
1:58:12thing it's like regardless
1:58:14waiting for him he's not like you you
1:58:17walked up the stairs no one can you
1:58:18can't fly up the stairs no one can take
1:58:20you out there okay you go up and stairs
1:58:21you lay in the bed and you wait for him
1:58:24who cares if it's five minutes who cares
1:58:26if it's 30 freaking seconds he's begging
1:58:28for his life he's begging to get out
1:58:30you go upstairs it doesn't matter so it
1:58:33could get the time frame out of your
1:58:35mind this like it doesn't matter it
1:58:37doesn't matter because
1:58:39there's this so it doesn't matter
1:58:41anything what it is I say so it makes no
1:58:43difference whatsoever
1:58:46I I I'm thinking on something it's kind
1:58:48of been distracting me
1:58:50um I wanna I'm struggling here other
1:58:54than I know as a defensatory I'd be
1:58:56sitting here just screaming while I'm
1:58:58reviewing this discovery but I would try
1:59:01and make an argument this is grasping in
1:59:05straws it really is it wouldn't go
1:59:07anywhere but I would just make it I
1:59:09would do emotion to suppress this
1:59:11statement because she did stand up at
1:59:14one point and like act like she wanted
1:59:15to walk out and they were like sit down
1:59:19and I would say her trying to walk out
1:59:21especially because she wasn't under
1:59:22arrest at the time she was just in
1:59:24custody her trying to walk out was her
1:59:26attempting to end the interview and they
1:59:28stopped her from ending the interview
1:59:29and continuing to ask her questions I
1:59:32don't think there's a single judge that
1:59:33would grant that motion to suppressed
1:59:35but I would definitely argue that
1:59:36because it's just such a crappy case
1:59:37it's like you gotta you gotta try and
1:59:39keep the statement out the statement is
1:59:41so so bad you got to find anything like
1:59:43anything at all like I would try to
1:59:46argue maybe she's still under the
1:59:47influence at the time you know something
1:59:49like that I don't know but
1:59:52uh yeah oh man lying and like you're not
1:59:56you're now changing yourself you're now
1:59:58now you're drunk oh I never said that I
2:00:00was drunk exactly but you did hear today
2:00:04that's okay you said earlier
2:00:05everything's everything
2:00:07you blame it on alcohol alcohol does a
2:00:09lot to people yes but I never said I was
2:00:11drunk yeah you did this sober
2:00:14you knowingly left them down there so uh
2:00:16I have already told both of you also
2:00:18that we were both drinking right
2:00:20but you want to admit that you were
2:00:21drunk I'm telling you all those
2:00:23this has changed my life I will take
2:00:26this yes absolutely
2:00:29I don't know yeah that's a true
2:00:31statement
2:00:32absolutely
2:00:34but you're trying to dance
2:00:36you're trying to avoid the main issue
2:00:38this changed my life girl this is not an
2:00:40after school special once again
2:00:43this is not about teaching you a lesson
2:00:45the man is dead and his name is not
2:00:47George by the way his name is Jorge she
2:00:49keeps calling him George I don't know
2:00:50why she does that but anyway
2:00:52she's also a uh what she said about
2:00:55being a white woman I don't know that
2:00:56was weird but anyway
2:00:58some of you guys let me in on what that
2:01:00statement means because I don't know I
2:01:01was like I know I've got some white
2:01:02women in this audience so tell me what
2:01:03that means but anyway that's beside the
2:01:05point she's trying to be like I've
2:01:07learned my lesson guys oh it's just the
2:01:10alcohol I'll never be able to sleep
2:01:12again oh yeah I really I'll never get
2:01:15that angry again this is not about
2:01:16teaching you a lesson at this point this
2:01:18is about getting to the bottom of the
2:01:20fact that this guy was murdered in this
2:01:22moment he's more important than you and
2:01:24you're gonna need to explain yourself
2:01:26or just end the interview
2:01:29forget that I reversed what I just said
2:01:32you do not need to explain yourself you
2:01:33need to shut up and end this interview
2:01:35right now ask for an attorney and say
2:01:37you don't want to answer any more
2:01:38questions strike everything I just said
2:01:39shut up
2:01:41okay
2:01:47this is not
2:01:49it's not cool like this is not cool
2:01:52but do you think that I did that
2:01:54intentionally
2:01:56you think that I did that intentionally
2:01:58you essentially left him in there and
2:01:59left the room you went upstairs to a
2:02:00different room
2:02:01you intentionally did that you you did
2:02:03yes because I'm thinking he's going to
2:02:05get out okay and he didn't obviously not
2:02:07but something is begging for me
2:02:12no no no George though like
2:02:14important
2:02:15again I thought it was a boy crying well
2:02:17so it's just like what oh so if your son
2:02:19was in there and said I can't breathe
2:02:20are you gonna open it or is is he nine
2:02:23so he's not you know really it's not a
2:02:24good deal
2:02:27oh you said you would never put your son
2:02:28in a suitcase you would only put George
2:02:29in there no George got in a suitcase
2:02:34not all the way and not intentionally to
2:02:36leave him there
2:02:38why would you zip it up if you're
2:02:39playing hide and seek I cannot get over
2:02:41that fact
2:02:43I cannot
2:02:47but you keep going with us
2:02:49exactly what happened
2:02:52are you all trying to have me admit like
2:02:54are you trying to have me admit that
2:02:55because I will never admit it because
2:02:56it's not true
2:02:58you know what honestly I'm sure they do
2:03:00want you to admit that but that's not
2:03:02the only thing they're getting out of
2:03:03this interrogation you've told so many
2:03:05inconsistencies and you've already said
2:03:08things that have hurt any potential
2:03:10future defenses that you would have like
2:03:11self-defense battered woman syndrome
2:03:15um accident mistake duress you know lack
2:03:18of presence at the scene all of those
2:03:20things are gone because you voluntarily
2:03:22gave up your phone and you voluntarily
2:03:24and knowingly waived your rights to an
2:03:27attorney and your right to remain silent
2:03:28and you gave this statement just so many
2:03:31missteps along the way that's why people
2:03:33that early on get their attorney
2:03:35involved or invoke the right to an
2:03:37attorney and invoke their own rights
2:03:39they do better in their criminal cases
2:03:41and again you know you might be thinking
2:03:43for the betterment of society it's
2:03:44probably a good it's a good thing that
2:03:46she doesn't do that because she did kill
2:03:49this man and looks like it's not gonna
2:03:51look too good for her in trial but I'm
2:03:53thinking from a defense attorney
2:03:54perspective trial strategy wise
2:03:57it's not true okay
2:04:00you can say it's not true all you want
2:04:03your videotaped them asking to be let
2:04:04out you can go upstairs so what guys so
2:04:07what like
2:04:08I don't know what you want me to say
2:04:10other than it was not out of
2:04:13maliciousness or intentional
2:04:16I don't know what or how I can say it I
2:04:19love George
2:04:21love him
2:04:22to stay still
2:04:23love him okay
2:04:26love makes you do crazy it doesn't do
2:04:28it's not one of those things where it's
2:04:29like oh gosh you know what I've said
2:04:31enough for you at this point I never
2:04:32gave up on him
2:04:33why I'm here today I'm still not giving
2:04:36up on him
2:04:38I would do anything you kind of gave up
2:04:41on him we left him in the suitcase and
2:04:42he walked away and you said f you for
2:04:45him well you gave up checking up on him
2:04:47oh gosh okay
2:04:51wow
2:04:53we're simply just trying to go through I
2:04:55mean again you gave us a completely
2:04:56different story that you charged up to
2:04:58this was such a laughing matter it was
2:05:01fun
2:05:01all day
2:05:05anybody look at it does I don't think
2:05:07anybody will clicked that video go
2:05:07George is having fun right now right so
2:05:10why is it you all think that I I
2:05:13don't know me you don't know me nope
2:05:16would do something like that especially
2:05:17having a nine-year-old son
2:05:43um so were you playing at the time that
2:05:45you left him in the suitcase or were you
2:05:46playing before you put them in the
2:05:48suitcase
2:05:55at him
2:05:59okay I don't know what you all want let
2:06:02me tell you
2:06:03in no way shape or form which is
2:06:05intentional
2:06:07at all
2:06:08ever
2:06:10okay are you still going to allow us to
2:06:11do your fingernails go for it go for it
2:06:13okay cool all right I'm gonna get that
2:06:15filed
2:06:17all right
2:06:19I would I wouldn't know one way or the
2:06:22other but I would be surprised if
2:06:25um
2:06:27so what there was any fingerprint ever I
2:06:30mean if there was any if there was any
2:06:33evidence under her fingernails that
2:06:34would greatly surprise me because it's
2:06:36been like a day or two like he died the
2:06:40day before or a day and a half ago and
2:06:43now she should have washed her hands
2:06:44since then if she had any sense but you
2:06:46know what
2:06:47she doesn't seem to have a lot of sense
2:06:49no offense Miss Boone thank you so much
2:06:52please help me explain it I understand
2:06:55you went on about how this was such a
2:06:57playful thing that you guys were
2:06:58laughing and it probably was for a few
2:07:00minutes but then it obviously changes
2:07:01the whole demeanor of this whole
2:07:03situation completely changes it's not
2:07:05the funny laughing matter he's not
2:07:07laughing at all I didn't think he was
2:07:09being serious
2:07:10you absolutely sound serious just
2:07:14you don't think your voice you sounded
2:07:16serious okay
2:07:19I don't know what you want me to tell
2:07:20you
2:07:21it's a great day
2:07:27I can't explain to you I can't explain
2:07:29to you hey Kurt how horrific it was
2:07:33horrific because I don't remember taking
2:07:35those videos
2:07:36how horrific
2:07:37I'm thinking he's in the bathroom I
2:07:39think he's downstairs in the laptop I
2:07:42can't find him
2:07:44the detective already said it but it
2:07:46really does bear saying I don't remember
2:07:48is not a defense
2:07:54is you don't remember taking videos you
2:07:57don't know where he is you don't
2:07:58remember him being in a suitcase and
2:08:00you're still telling me that you have
2:08:02your wits about you
2:08:04when see that's the thing too but you
2:08:07can clearly tell you can clearly tell
2:08:09that I had been drinking something you
2:08:11can clearly tell which is it
2:08:15you were drunk on a daily basis oh my
2:08:17gosh right regularly right yeah really
2:08:21right
2:08:22okay I guess it's not these are your
2:08:25neighbors the one that live next year
2:08:26your property manager does not live next
2:08:28to you they see you every day
2:08:34yeah that's why she's in the house I'm
2:08:36like in the moment why is she saying
2:08:38she's not drunk
2:08:39because she would get drunk and
2:08:41do stuff to him
2:08:43two different neighbors that live
2:08:44directly actually you asked to use the
2:08:45restroom and they told you no it turns
2:08:47your wife you had to go across the way
2:08:48no okay Cam and Eli Eli or Kim is not a
2:08:52nice person she's just automatically not
2:08:54nice even after me and Liz went over
2:08:55there and introduced herself she's just
2:08:56not a nice person then why would you
2:08:58think she would let you use a restroom
2:08:59there
2:09:00Eli comes over and talks to us sometimes
2:09:02which I think pisses him off because he
2:09:04comes over and talks to us the two of
2:09:06them they're like superstand Oddish all
2:09:08the time my name is Sam street down the
2:09:10way their toilet was broken they had
2:09:12stuff in the bathroom so then they're
2:09:14like go over there and try over there I
2:09:17wouldn't let somebody go upstairs and
2:09:18use my my personal bathroom that's why
2:09:20the downstairs one is for if it's
2:09:22somebody you like which is somebody you
2:09:23knew oh he's getting into the weeds with
2:09:26her here she's a master of distraction
2:09:30and deflection she's really really good
2:09:32at that she's like no there's all these
2:09:34other reasons they didn't let me use the
2:09:35bathroom not because I'm drunk and
2:09:36belligerent they're in the process of
2:09:38doing all this stuff in the kitchen and
2:09:40they're stuck in the bathroom and it
2:09:41totally doesn't work just walk across
2:09:43the way no problem and of course they
2:09:45let me in
2:09:46then and then they're together
2:09:48they're part their families
2:09:51and nonetheless if you really want to
2:09:52know and I hope it doesn't get them in
2:09:53trouble but he is over here illegally so
2:09:56he's trying to oh my god
2:10:00wow that is so messed up
2:10:04that is so disgusting so the people who
2:10:08said we don't let her into our house
2:10:12even to use our bathroom because she
2:10:14gets drunk and belligerent it's in
2:10:17retaliation You're Gonna Go tattle on
2:10:19them in the State of Florida and say
2:10:21that they're not here legally that is so
2:10:24messed up you can get these people
2:10:25deported because they were forthcoming
2:10:28enough to speak to the police in a
2:10:30murder investigation
2:10:32that that really rubs me the wrong way I
2:10:36cannot stand people who do stuff like
2:10:38that
2:10:39that is so nasty and you know in in
2:10:43communities with you know I come from a
2:10:45family of immigrants you know so I'm
2:10:47very sensitive about like immigration
2:10:49issues but in communities where there's
2:10:51a lot of um immigrants and potentially
2:10:53some people who are undocumented people
2:10:55will be afraid to talk to the police
2:10:57because of things just like that they
2:10:59don't want to get someone to say oh well
2:11:00that person's not here legally and then
2:11:03they get deported
2:11:04and that's why you know sometimes abuse
2:11:06and violence and stuff can proliferate
2:11:08in those communities because they're
2:11:09afraid to talk to the police these
2:11:11people were brave enough to come forward
2:11:12and say she's always drunk and
2:11:14belligerent she has you know berated him
2:11:17assaulted him whatever it is that they
2:11:19said and she's gonna be like well let me
2:11:21just slip this in there not to get them
2:11:23in trouble or anything but they're here
2:11:24illegally
2:11:26ill
2:11:28horrible that was not an accident that
2:11:31she just did that that was very
2:11:32manipulative and mean and mean spirited
2:11:35she did that in retaliation
2:11:40they didn't want to be involved
2:11:42no no no last thing last night because
2:11:44you know I mean we had several different
2:11:45people it has nothing to do with
2:11:46anything she just do that in there to be
2:11:48mean
2:11:49like him drunk on a regular Eli and Kim
2:11:52Eli and Kim okay did you ask me next
2:11:55door those are the ones next door that
2:11:56she asked to use the restroom and they
2:11:57said no no she said no
2:11:59and like I said she's not a nice person
2:12:01what are your questions
2:12:04is coming to do the fingernails you said
2:12:06that we said
2:12:09and you don't have to allow us to do it
2:12:11oh I'm sorry all that coffee
2:12:16so am I getting my phone back no
2:12:21um what about Lucy's laptop
2:12:25what does that mean read the room you're
2:12:27going to jail you're going to jail
2:12:34we're still going through everything oh
2:12:35that's fine you're the one just telling
2:12:37us there's videos that we need to see on
2:12:38it so that's our due diligence that we
2:12:40go through everything see and that
2:12:41backfires on me now too because now you
2:12:43all think that I had even more includes
2:12:45intent to do what I did then which was
2:12:47not intentional what's up and that's is
2:12:50that correct she's asking about your
2:12:51timing
2:12:52no but I'm asking if that's correct no
2:12:54I'm not going to write anything that
2:12:55you're saying I'm not that you're
2:12:58so history is not there
2:13:00do you all inform her or do I need to
2:13:01call her
2:13:02we don't need them
2:13:06or you think of these on probation
2:13:08no but because of the nice lady that she
2:13:10is and all that she's done for him I
2:13:12thought I didn't know how it was legally
2:13:14we just have to tell his parents and we
2:13:15don't go telling them I didn't even know
2:13:17who is probation officer was so no I
2:13:19wouldn't do that so the same thing for
2:13:20our classes
2:13:21I need to do that too
2:13:24um
2:13:26class and it's better intervention
2:13:30so
2:13:34other than this
2:13:36so initially what was the cause of death
2:13:39she is still pending because she wants
2:13:41to hold the body for an additional day
2:13:43to see if more of those bruises turn
2:13:46into something bigger
2:13:48um and
2:13:50you know what I was wrong
2:13:53I was wrong
2:13:57I said she was going to jail I was wrong
2:14:00you're not going to jail
2:14:03on a person
2:14:06[Laughter]
2:14:09that way
2:14:12girl you are going to prison
2:14:16you are going to prison
2:14:19[Music]
2:14:24she's got to do so she's pending it for
2:14:26now
2:14:27so and that kind of event is of him
2:14:29being in the suitcase
2:14:32that's what she's determining so the
2:14:35ones on the head I asked her because
2:14:37that was in the suitcase
2:14:42nor did he touch me
2:14:49um
2:14:51so I don't know if you all know how to
2:14:53do this because I so that's what I've
2:14:54been asking me to ask you so are you all
2:14:56updating his parents today or when you
2:14:58get final whatever
2:15:00[Music]
2:15:01each other's parents we mean because I I
2:15:06we're gonna have we're going to talk to
2:15:08it with them okay
2:15:10she's trying to control the narrative
2:15:13that is the least of your problems what
2:15:15are you gonna tell his parents what
2:15:17pieces of property am I going to get
2:15:18back
2:15:19wake up you're going to prison down to
2:15:23me
2:15:24what do you mean like so it's being pet
2:15:27on me who said that but I met someone
2:15:30we're going to give them an update just
2:15:32like we gave you an update on their
2:15:33autopsy okay so it's whatever bruises
2:15:38we had to deliver news to them last
2:15:40night that their son was dead there's
2:15:41not a whole lot of conversation that
2:15:42goes on after that
2:15:43it's not a very easy was it yesterday or
2:15:45Sunday
2:15:46Sunday today's Tuesday right
2:15:49not you could correcting them on when
2:15:52you killed your boyfriend did you not
2:15:54meet you yesterday
2:15:56we met you yesterday
2:15:58so I'm just asking
2:16:01right did we not meet yesterday
2:16:04another question uh really yes on Monday
2:16:12got it
2:16:15so I don't know if I asked you guys or
2:16:17how I find this out other than talking
2:16:19to his parents which is not gonna happen
2:16:21you know go to bed Kurt
2:16:24how do you guys suggest me finding out
2:16:26about funeral
2:16:29that's not even something that's been
2:16:31probably talked about between the family
2:16:33that's not something we ask we have no
2:16:35way of
2:16:37thank you so it's gonna be up to them to
2:16:40make the arrangements of what they want
2:16:40to do she just told you this quick just
2:16:42being told last night I'll pretty much
2:16:44be willing to wager that they have not
2:16:47even considered what they're going to do
2:16:48all right body can't even be released so
2:16:50I've been there with parents program
2:16:52MERS and Knuckles
2:16:54um
2:16:55so I don't know if I have the right to
2:16:57or not but like I was going to call his
2:16:59former employees whom he really cared
2:17:02for and let them know
2:17:04you can call wherever you want I just
2:17:06don't want to do something that I'm not
2:17:07supposed to do
2:17:09um how do I go about getting his
2:17:12why are you acting like if some who done
2:17:14an investigation you killed him it's on
2:17:17video what do you mean well I don't want
2:17:20to just release details I shouldn't be
2:17:21out there get out of here
2:17:24um wedding ring engagement ring
2:17:26check out the medical examiner's office
2:17:27it'll come to us eventually and then
2:17:29it'll be released
2:17:31yeah okay I bought it for him
2:17:35thank you
2:17:37you're more worried about the money you
2:17:39spent on his engagement ring than you're
2:17:41worried about him being dead
2:17:44it was on his finger it goes to them
2:17:46they're the ones that are going to
2:17:47release it we don't have anything
2:17:52wow
2:17:54wow for all of us like how do I find out
2:17:57what's what how many like what's been
2:17:58found
2:17:59what do you mean uh pillow with sane
2:18:02swab of stain from pillow suitcase that
2:18:05will all be sent off to a daily Florida
2:18:08Department of Law Enforcement they do
2:18:09their testing so and then like whatever
2:18:11White
2:18:12pan with blood and necktie with blood
2:18:14was from the suitcase correct
2:18:17why would you guys oh you'll stay in
2:18:19there that they saw that
2:18:20foreign
2:18:24I don't mean this in a medical sense but
2:18:27she's crazy
2:18:28I don't mean this in a disparaging way
2:18:31to people like myself of mental health
2:18:33issues she's crazy as [ __ ] because why
2:18:35are you sitting there
2:18:37[Music]
2:18:39why are you sitting there critiquing
2:18:43their investigation and evidence
2:18:44collection in a homicide that you
2:18:47committed I mean to your own word she
2:18:49did it it just wasn't on purpose but she
2:18:51did it
2:18:53his phone my phone and the laptop this
2:18:57is crazy yeah when anything can be
2:18:59released to people release it but we are
2:19:00very early in this investigation
2:19:03it's not an overnight process
2:19:04unfortunately so
2:19:07what's next they're gonna come
2:19:09um swab your fingers no I'm talking
2:19:11about like in the long run like what do
2:19:13I need to like do I need to be doing
2:19:14something or like I can't tell you
2:19:18I mean like so late for
2:19:20like I don't understand like I don't
2:19:22know if you guys ever swim in life
2:19:24because it makes it sound like to me
2:19:25like I'm being accused of something that
2:19:27was not intentional I'm being accused of
2:19:30it and a handful of other things and I'm
2:19:32being accused of okay so I don't want to
2:19:35be at home with Lucas and you guys show
2:19:37up
2:19:45so is there going to be concrete
2:19:48whatever it is and then it's like okay
2:19:49this is what it is
2:19:50because I've done the whole Court thing
2:19:53I've done the whole
2:19:55attorney thing I've done whatever so if
2:19:57I'm not admitting anything about being
2:19:59intentional and I killed George
2:20:03you've admitted so much
2:20:05so
2:20:07so much
2:20:09without even knowing that you've
2:20:10admitted it
2:20:12just because you say the words it wasn't
2:20:13intentional doesn't mean that you didn't
2:20:15just give the whole ball game away
2:20:16because you did
2:20:19that's not the situation but it's trying
2:20:21to depend on me
2:20:23who else
2:20:27but it's trying to depend on me
2:20:29so however or whatever it is I need to
2:20:31do in order for that to be proven then I
2:20:33need to do so which is why I'm trying to
2:20:34get my ducks in a row
2:20:36so that's why I'm asking what the next
2:20:37step is other than me getting my nail
2:20:39swamped
2:20:41I mean you want me to tell you how to
2:20:44not be accused of a crime
2:20:47she can't stand her ass
2:20:51she cannot you want me to tell you how
2:20:55um not to be accused of a crime
2:21:01you
2:21:03how to not be accused of a crime she
2:21:05hates her I don't know I'm trying to
2:21:08prepare myself for whatever may need to
2:21:10be done so I can I gotta say that for
2:21:12myself they're not going to help you
2:21:14prepare a defense
2:21:16I just don't want you guys to again
2:21:19show up and listen
2:21:24in the house well we did tell you
2:21:25yesterday that we don't want to do
2:21:26anything around your son hence why you
2:21:28came to us
2:21:29so I don't know why you think that's
2:21:30going to change that and or may not just
2:21:33show it back home
2:21:34I'm sorry what no matter what me does
2:21:36not show up back home
2:21:38that's what so she knows she's going to
2:21:40get arrested and she's hoping that
2:21:42they're going to give her assurances
2:21:43that she won't be arrested nice try oh
2:21:47he's so happy that I'm staying over the
2:21:48house with that
2:21:50and I'm not going back to the house to
2:21:52my house for however long I can stay
2:21:54over here because of whatever to blow
2:21:56over manipulation and again if you don't
2:21:58mind me asking so for
2:22:01whatever it is you all are
2:22:03claiming from the videos which yeah it's
2:22:08is that what you're going to tell them
2:22:09like his parents it's like oh yeah and
2:22:11by the way she did
2:22:13a good one yeah worry about the wrong
2:22:16thing the wrong thing
2:22:19she's worried about what the parents are
2:22:21gonna think about her not about the fact
2:22:23that she's about to go to jail
2:22:25I mean what would you tell him
2:22:27I don't think it really mattered we're
2:22:28working with all the parents oh yeah it
2:22:29is a steal for the fire
2:22:32well we can't hide things and I don't
2:22:35know I'm not saying we're gonna go
2:22:37I'm not saying that we're gonna go and
2:22:39tell them every single thing we have
2:22:42but again this is the Orange County
2:22:45Sheriff's office has public records So
2:22:46eventually like this all will come out
2:22:48so
2:22:49it's just like I'm not you're making it
2:22:52sound like we're gonna tell them
2:22:53something so then your life is in danger
2:22:54and I don't like that accusation
2:22:57so let's just nip that in the butt right
2:22:59now well that's what's going to happen
2:23:06there's no concrete
2:23:08report yet even right so so it's uh you
2:23:12want me to like tell you exactly
2:23:13I don't know what I'm gonna tell them
2:23:15let's just say what I thought just like
2:23:16you don't know why you went upstairs
2:23:21is she trying to insinuate that his
2:23:24parents are gonna do her some type of
2:23:26injury
2:23:27if they find out that she killed their
2:23:29kid
2:23:40should be here
2:23:45I know she's sitting there but I get it
2:23:48what do you get
2:23:50that looks really bad
2:23:53so that's what scares me like what do I
2:23:56need to plan on like what do I need to
2:23:58plan on
2:23:59I promise you
2:24:01this right here is why a lot of people
2:24:04do these interrogations that are not in
2:24:08their best interest is because they
2:24:10think they're trying to get information
2:24:12they think they're gonna find out
2:24:14something to help them with their case
2:24:16the detectives are not going to give you
2:24:17anything you're not going to find
2:24:19anything out that they don't want you to
2:24:21already know and you are going to give
2:24:23up so much stuff that's going to hurt
2:24:25you that son's life
2:24:27it was not intentional
2:24:29I promise you
2:24:31on Lucas's life it was not intentional I
2:24:35don't know you I can't say I know
2:24:36anything about you I don't know what is
2:24:38what would be a true female but not I
2:24:40mean you're promising on your son's life
2:24:41that's fine that's how much it means
2:24:44sorry
2:24:46that's how much it means
2:24:50I hope you take that to heart please
2:24:56documented that you said that yeah
2:25:03do you have any idea when I can get my
2:25:04phone back
2:25:09you had no idea you have no idea you
2:25:12have no idea this is the most annoying
2:25:15client question ever in life and it
2:25:21crosses the Spectrum
2:25:22from minor traffic cases to murder cases
2:25:26where people get arrested they get
2:25:29charged with an offense the police sees
2:25:31their phone they have such bigger fish
2:25:34to fry and their first question is when
2:25:37can I get my phone back baby girl you
2:25:39are charged you are going to be charged
2:25:41with murder
2:25:43you won't be going anywhere for a really
2:25:45long time your cell phone is the least
2:25:49of your worries
2:25:54the addiction people have to them damn
2:25:57phones makes them lose all perspective
2:26:00it drives me wild
2:26:03I will get people exonerated found not
2:26:05guilty get their cases dismissed and
2:26:07what's the first question how when I get
2:26:09my phone back
2:26:10you're not even out of jail yet
2:26:12what do you think I said no going I mean
2:26:15it's there's
2:26:17um
2:26:19well and that's not technically my
2:26:21laptop it's Lucas's laptop you'll see
2:26:23all the games
2:26:30we have no way of being able to tell you
2:26:32because we don't have control over their
2:26:34Facebook and how they arrange what they
2:26:35do maybe at this point I think honestly
2:26:38with everything else that's going on it
2:26:39should probably be at the bottom of your
2:26:41list of words thank you
2:26:43I'm trying to make Lizard happy so they
2:26:45can have their laptop on
2:26:46oh my God
2:26:49for him she's delusional she's the Lulu
2:26:53she's completely delusional
2:26:57he has his laptop that he has to do the
2:26:59work but he doesn't want him using it or
2:27:01breaking or dropping
2:27:07it's not a big deal there's nothing on
2:27:09the laptop anyway
2:27:21so you will keep me posted like I've
2:27:24dated
2:27:28that's my thing is I'm trying to figure
2:27:30out what I need to do in the meantime
2:27:34grab a toothbrush I can't like I don't
2:27:37know what to tell you though
2:27:39like what am I what but you all have
2:27:42more information than I do where it says
2:27:43yeah you might want to or yeah you might
2:27:44wanna
2:27:45it's like we have more information on
2:27:47what
2:27:48we told you everything that we have you
2:27:50know everything that we know
2:27:52and most of it we got from you
2:27:55but that
2:27:58he just said
2:27:59why you
2:28:03shut at traffic stops on the street
2:28:07an interrogation rooms
2:28:10shut up
2:28:13ask for a lawyer and say you do not want
2:28:15to answer any questions because listen
2:28:17to this
2:28:18information
2:28:19yeah you might want to or yeah you might
2:28:21wanna
2:28:22like we have more information on what
2:28:25I told you everything that we have you
2:28:27know everything that we know
2:28:29and most of it we got from you
2:28:31you know everything that we know and
2:28:34most of it we got from you
2:28:37you gave the police their case she
2:28:40voluntarily gave them her phone
2:28:43she voluntarily made several statements
2:28:46this is like her third statement she
2:28:48gave a statement on the scene when she
2:28:50called 9-1-1 when the police showed up
2:28:52and they came and they spoke to her the
2:28:54day before
2:29:01built their case for them
2:29:03her attorneys are way behind the eight
2:29:05ball by the time it's by the time they
2:29:07get into the case because she's done so
2:29:09much damage already
2:29:11that
2:29:13like I was telling her like
2:29:16yeah that's sad like
2:29:19which I swore in my son's life was not
2:29:21intentional
2:29:23so that's why I'm trying to figure out
2:29:25what I need to do for myself
2:29:28going forward with it nonetheless with
2:29:31his family
2:29:33and are you all just showing up with
2:29:35Lucas now
2:29:36I think we've already both told you that
2:29:38we would be mindful of any situations
2:29:52should you guys I guess you're gonna
2:29:54call me tomorrow
2:29:55or do we come back down here I'll chat
2:29:58with you next time
2:29:59you're not going anywhere
2:30:02I'll chat with you next time she's not
2:30:03promising you that you're going home
2:30:08I have no idea what I'm going
2:30:10next oh this is the report come out file
2:30:14I'm just saying a report is generated
2:30:16through us and the sheriff's office is a
2:30:18public entity so if someone were to come
2:30:19across something then not talking about
2:30:22um it's autopsy she's waiting and doing
2:30:24more follow-up but she's looking at him
2:30:26again yeah so she won't be finished with
2:30:28him because she's heading further so
2:30:35show after this one
2:30:38I'm done for now you're going to jail
2:30:51how long does this stuff take to get
2:30:52back
2:30:54I like the silence because she really is
2:30:56trying to control the narrative she's
2:30:58trying to control the room and they're
2:31:00just like no answer they're gonna give
2:31:02her is going to satisfy her she wants
2:31:03assurances that it's over that she's
2:31:06going home
2:31:07I mean it could be over she could say I
2:31:09don't want to talk to you anymore I
2:31:10don't want to answer any more questions
2:31:11but now she's asking questions so she
2:31:13definitely cannot say that she was
2:31:15involuntarily in there because she's
2:31:17questioning them
2:31:23we'll stay
2:31:25they all know about it
2:31:29oh Sarah
2:31:32keeps calling my phone I keep having to
2:31:36have other people call them and see what
2:31:37they need
2:31:43they have everything they need
2:31:47it's too late I miss him a lot
2:31:53[Music]
2:31:54I miss him a lot real believable but my
2:31:57question has remained the same
2:31:59what do you expect to happen to somebody
2:32:02when you leave them in a position
2:32:06yes but you have understand too
2:32:08what would you expect to happen answer
2:32:11the question I had no idea because I've
2:32:14never done it before
2:32:16I've never done it before why why
2:32:18exactly
2:32:20why did I do it before why did you do it
2:32:22now
2:32:25I clearly have said why why
2:32:30no you don't know why you never just
2:32:32know that it's not intentional so you
2:32:33don't know why
2:32:34but that's okay
2:32:38hates her so much
2:32:42no you don't know remember what you said
2:32:43you said you don't know why don't don't
2:32:45even no it's fine
2:32:46we don't need anything else they got
2:32:48everything they need out of her that's
2:32:49okay that's fine
2:32:52remember that was the peak of sarcasm
2:32:57really I'm not trying to force you to
2:32:58say something that you don't know
2:33:03damn girl you're feeding and pinning
2:33:21silent treatment
2:33:29letting her do the talking the fact that
2:33:31you guys were assume that I'm that kind
2:33:32of person
2:33:34that's just
2:33:35giving her plenty of rope
2:33:37and any argument that you would have had
2:33:40like when I said when she stood up I
2:33:43would I would try to argue she's trying
2:33:44to leave that argument would only work
2:33:47for it wouldn't work but if it did it
2:33:49would only work for the time after she
2:33:51stood up and it would end whenever she
2:33:53reinitiates interrogation she asks her
2:33:56own questions and that's her
2:33:57re-initiating the interrogation over and
2:34:00over again she's the one that's keeping
2:34:02herself in that room she doesn't realize
2:34:04it but it's her that's doing it
2:34:05she could end this at any time but the
2:34:07reason she's still there is because she
2:34:09keeps asking them questions they're not
2:34:11assuming anything
2:34:15like you said you don't know me
2:34:31Miss Sarah
2:34:36shut up Miss Sarah
2:34:45[Laughter]
2:34:53[Laughter]
2:34:57you're killing me
2:35:03they got you Sarah
2:35:06the silence
2:35:08and so for me to have to live with
2:35:12getting him out and doing what I did is
2:35:15passionate enough
2:35:18you wish
2:35:20you wish you learning your lesson no
2:35:23longer drinking and having to live with
2:35:24the consequences of your actions
2:35:27is enough that's what she's been
2:35:29intimating this entire time I've already
2:35:32learned my lesson I've already been
2:35:33punished enough haven't I been through
2:35:35enough already just let this go guys
2:35:38it's not how it works not when someone's
2:35:40dead
2:35:43all those chances they run out
2:35:49I think that's why I haven't slept
2:35:50because that's all I see
2:35:54so that right there showed us something
2:35:56it's not even an interrogation
2:36:01oh sure yeah I could put the subtitles
2:36:03back on sorry I didn't think they were
2:36:05being very helpful sorry about that
2:36:10they were very inaccurate
2:36:32nonetheless I have to live without him
2:36:34now
2:36:35nonetheless
2:36:40punishment in itself no it's not not
2:36:44enough punishment anyway
2:36:47she wishes
2:36:52a tragic situation
2:36:54she don't care for real she just doesn't
2:36:56want to go to jail
2:36:57thank you
2:36:59amazing unfortunate that
2:37:02stupid things like this happen
2:37:06girl stupid things like this do not
2:37:08normally happen people get drunk all the
2:37:10time and I don't think I've ever heard
2:37:11of anybody locking someone in a suitcase
2:37:13and suffocating them to death this is a
2:37:15you issue not an alcohol issue this is a
2:37:19you problem
2:37:27nonetheless I have to live without now
2:37:30um
2:37:33nonetheless
2:37:37your daughter's two
2:37:40um
2:37:41are you trying to make it worse
2:37:43well you're only thinking about yourself
2:37:44he said his daughters too
2:37:48that's what he said
2:37:50self-centered
2:37:53he said his daughters too and she goes
2:37:55are you trying to make it worse
2:37:58how dare he remind you that other people
2:38:00will be impacted by your actions not
2:38:02just you that this is not about you
2:38:06horrible
2:38:07are you trying to make it worse
2:38:10are you trying to make it work
2:38:13s
2:38:14how I feel
2:38:17um
2:38:18CSI that was there yesterday I think she
2:38:21took your photos
2:38:23time to collect the evidence
2:38:27[Applause]
2:38:31you're done Sarah
2:38:34[Applause]
2:38:42you're done girl
2:38:45all right
2:38:55ah
2:39:01Razor's hand to remind me to tell you
2:39:03okay do you promise I'm sure that
2:39:05everything we talked about today has
2:39:06been true
2:39:08what's this
2:39:10oh
2:39:12you're not free to go
2:39:14okay
2:39:16oh do you promise everything you tell
2:39:18this is the truth
2:39:22what's this
2:39:24hmm what is happening here
2:39:31okay Sarah
2:39:33so
2:39:34you're not free to go you're not free to
2:39:37go that's the rest okay
2:39:40oh do you promise everything you told us
2:39:42was the truth
2:39:43or no
2:39:44um
2:39:46everything we've talked about today
2:39:48what do you mean he has to swear
2:39:51remember how I swear yesterday on the on
2:39:53the audio recording I just forgot to
2:39:54raise his hand to remind me to tell you
2:39:56okay do you promise and share that
2:39:58everything we talked about today has
2:39:59been true and accurate to the best of
2:40:00your knowledge
2:40:01for what's true and accurate to the best
2:40:03of your knowledge what that it wasn't
2:40:05intentional everything you've said today
2:40:06everything that's come out of your mouth
2:40:08has been true and accurate to the best
2:40:09of your knowledge you know she can't do
2:40:10that to Vanessa biology
2:40:13yes
2:40:14why okay
2:40:17to assure that everything that we talked
2:40:20about is true and accurate trying to
2:40:22make this into a sworn statement
2:40:24knowledge 100 questions to the best of
2:40:27my knowledge everything that you've told
2:40:29us today is true and accurate so that's
2:40:30your knowledge yes but it was not
2:40:32intentional okay that's not everything
2:40:35you said though that's only a portion of
2:40:37what you said
2:40:40stand up
2:40:42that's it
2:40:44you're not going to be by the time you
2:40:47see that phone we're going to be using
2:40:48microchips to communicate phones will be
2:40:51obsolete so
2:40:57why is it happening
2:40:58because George is dead what is
2:41:02why is this happening you locked your
2:41:04boyfriend in a suitcase told him Fu went
2:41:07upstairs and went to sleep and he said I
2:41:09couldn't breathe and you laughed at him
2:41:13and then you called your ex-man first
2:41:15before calling the police
2:41:18are you serious why do you think this is
2:41:20happening we understand it
2:41:23well someone used to call Brian please
2:41:25okay okay
2:41:31[Music]
2:41:38you cannot talk yourself out
2:41:41of an arrest you cannot talk yourself
2:41:44out in the arrest out of an arrest so by
2:41:47waiving your right to an attorney a lot
2:41:49of people think I'm still answering that
2:41:51question a lot of people think oh I'll
2:41:53waive my right to an attorney and I'll
2:41:55talk to them it'll make them think that
2:41:56I have nothing to hide and I'll talk
2:41:58myself out of being arrested absolutely
2:42:00not by the time that they're ready to
2:42:02interrogate you eight times out of ten
2:42:04they're ready to arrest you they're only
2:42:07adding the icing on the cake they had
2:42:09the video they didn't need her statement
2:42:11in order for them to prove their case
2:42:13one way or the other this is the icing
2:42:15on the cake it was not a trick they told
2:42:18you anything you say can and will be
2:42:21used against you another way I like to
2:42:24conceptualize it and I tell clients is
2:42:26nothing that you say that is helpful for
2:42:29you will be used those are self-serving
2:42:32statements so anything you say that will
2:42:34help you they're never going to use that
2:42:35in trial because it's self-serving and
2:42:37you can testify if you want to
2:42:40everything you say can and will be used
2:42:43against you it can only incriminate you
2:42:46they tell you that in the warnings and
2:42:48people make the statements anyway it's
2:42:51not a trick they show their hands ahead
2:42:53of time
2:42:56they said all the cards they had ahead
2:42:58of time
2:43:00and you're gonna act like it's a trick
2:43:03s to explain a few things I don't
2:43:06understand you're right you're right
2:43:07your response to everything was
2:43:11basically I didn't do it intentionally
2:43:20not intentionally you wish Sarah
2:43:24all right
2:43:25that's it for Sarah
2:43:27Sarah said not intentionally so she
2:43:30thinks that means it's a get out of jail
2:43:32free card it is not your attorney can
2:43:35argue that for you that it was an
2:43:36accident you didn't have the requisite
2:43:38men's Raya so maybe it's manslaughter
2:43:40instead of murder
2:43:42Maybe
2:43:44the weather was intentionally or not
2:43:46they could still arrest you
2:43:48whether or not you say that because they
2:43:49have video that contradicts that that
2:43:51shows it was very much intentional you
2:43:53said Fu and went upstairs
2:43:56you said Fu and went upstairs uncivilah
2:44:00Kurt is in here cutting up in the
2:44:02comments section okay let me just start
2:44:04with his first one thank you for the
2:44:05Super Chat please talk openly and
2:44:07frankly with all police officers and
2:44:09make sure to answer their every question
2:44:11they just want to help you and they love
2:44:13you
2:44:15Kurt also says mean defense lawyers like
2:44:17Natalie lawyer chick don't want you to
2:44:19talk to the police please ignore her and
2:44:21make sure to tell her tell the state all
2:44:24the things
2:44:25hope you're picking up on the theme Here
2:44:27people but what about the famous scotus
2:44:29case that says you can undo a confession
2:44:31even after Miranda I think it was
2:44:33retakey baxies and oops versus doopsy
2:44:38oh in Ray take you backseats
2:44:44please tell me you've picked up on the
2:44:46sarcasm and that includes the
2:44:48instruction that's implicit in that do
2:44:50not speak to the police without a lawyer
2:44:52present tell them that you want a lawyer
2:44:53you do not make statements
2:44:56L Stokes welcome to the lawyer chickens
2:44:59and people are like well I'll never be a
2:45:00crazy murderer no you you won't you'll
2:45:03never be a murderer but still your
2:45:05statements can and will be used against
2:45:07you so something you think is innocent
2:45:09and innocuous can turn around and be
2:45:11used against you in a court of law
2:45:16k-rab thank you for the Super Chat she
2:45:19is delusional in her letter to the judge
2:45:21okay you guys can read that thank you
2:45:24for the Super Chat we are gonna cover
2:45:26the letter to the judge tomorrow we're
2:45:28catching up on things guys because this
2:45:31trial is coming up in July so I wanted
2:45:33to start covering this now okay and then
2:45:36I want to do the Sovereign citizen who
2:45:37allegedly assaulted his brother trial
2:45:40um preliminary hearing it's like he's a
2:45:42Moorish National and his um brother is a
2:45:45sovereign citizen it's a very
2:45:46interesting preliminary hearing very
2:45:48very interesting but I want to cover
2:45:49that letter it's going to be a quick
2:45:52video just covering the letters plenty
2:45:54of letters she's written to the court
2:45:56Carol Ann I'm so sorry Caroline because
2:45:59all I think about is Poltergeist every
2:46:00single time I see your name I'm so sorry
2:46:02but I appreciate you thank you for the
2:46:04Super Chat I know you're probably tired
2:46:05of hearing that does she not remember
2:46:07that the boy who cried wolf died at the
2:46:09end of the story because he was ignored
2:46:10exactly
2:46:12exactly insert funny name says question
2:46:16what that would only work after she
2:46:19stood up right and that's why I was like
2:46:21look the only motion I can think of to
2:46:22suppress the statement because you've
2:46:24got to try it's a murder case you've got
2:46:25to see what you can do yes up until the
2:46:28point that she stands up everything is
2:46:30voluntary it's still voluntary after she
2:46:32stands up but for the sake of this
2:46:33hypothetical argument after she stands
2:46:36up then if you had any argument it would
2:46:39be to suppress a statement after that
2:46:40but then once she on her own initiates
2:46:42re-initiates conversation then it goes
2:46:46back to it being a voluntary statement
2:46:47and that statement would come in from
2:46:49when she re-initiates
2:46:51love dreaming Peach thank you for the
2:46:54question could her level of yelling be
2:46:56considered under duress no I don't think
2:46:59so analytical Blarney a b thank you so
2:47:02much for the Super Chat has she just
2:47:04launched L Woods and did a bend and snap
2:47:07this wouldn't be an issue
2:47:09hello
2:47:11I love that movie
2:47:13um Kathleen Tackett thank you for the
2:47:15Super Chat it says love your channel I
2:47:17appreciate you thank you so much if
2:47:19you're on your way out of the stream we
2:47:20got up to over 1400 almost 1500 we might
2:47:23have just hit 1500 concurrent viewers
2:47:25please make sure that you like the video
2:47:27on your way out if you're heading on out
2:47:29thank you so much for hanging out with
2:47:30us I'm going to finish up these super
2:47:32chats and questions Natalie you are the
2:47:34only other person I've heard uses saying
2:47:36if wishes were horses the Beggars would
2:47:38ride it reminds me of my mom I pinned
2:47:41this one because that's who I got that
2:47:42phrase from I have a lot of sayings that
2:47:45I as I'm like realizing that they're not
2:47:48from people of my generation they're
2:47:50from my mother for sure like I get them
2:47:52from my mom she was she is she doesn't
2:47:55speak anymore but she is a very witty
2:47:58and wise person and she has a lot of
2:48:00like little Snappy sayings that she
2:48:02would say for different situations and
2:48:04that was one of her favorite ones that
2:48:06she would use if we were like well I
2:48:08wanted this well if wishes were horses
2:48:10Beggars would ride that's the type of
2:48:12discipline when narian she was because
2:48:14she would leave us stuck like well what
2:48:16the heck does that mean well I guess
2:48:18we're not going to get McDonald's you
2:48:20know
2:48:21hey Michael RN thank you very much for
2:48:23the Super Chat have you read the jail
2:48:25letters
2:48:26we'll read those tomorrow
2:48:29um and it's going to be an earlier
2:48:31stream tomorrow because it's an off day
2:48:33for me before July 4th I'm taking
2:48:35tomorrow off J Michael RN well
2:48:38I'm still gonna work but I'm gonna work
2:48:39from home let's put it that way
2:48:41um says have you read the jailers I did
2:48:43get that thank you so much crazy cat
2:48:45Queen
2:48:46welcome to the lawyer Chiclets
2:48:49paracord princess thank you for the
2:48:51Super Chat playing hide and seek how old
2:48:53are were they ten
2:48:56you know what there should always be
2:48:58room in life for Whimsy especially in
2:49:01romantic relationships listen if there's
2:49:03one thing me and Brandon gonna do is
2:49:05laugh and play and act stupid in this
2:49:07house okay you would be surprised the
2:49:10jokes and stuff that we have in this
2:49:12house the little pranks you know
2:49:14whatever uh we do only I wouldn't really
2:49:16even say pranks but like the ways in
2:49:18which we tease each other right that
2:49:20makes the relationship fun but nobody
2:49:22dies it's everyone wakes up in the
2:49:25morning nobody's dead it's great there's
2:49:27no reason for things to get dangerous
2:49:29unless you really hate him and you're
2:49:31just trying to take him out Jordan thank
2:49:34you for the Super Chat nice to see you
2:49:35she must be fun at parties the way she
2:49:37yells and screams I know
2:49:40um Mandy me thank you for the Super Chat
2:49:42her letter to the judge lawyer and the
2:49:44world was great we're gonna read it
2:49:46tomorrow I just wanted to get caught up
2:49:48on this we definitely will Carol Ann
2:49:51thank you very much for the Super Chat
2:49:52it would be great if you could look at
2:49:54some of the letters she's been writing
2:49:55I've got you guys I've got you letters
2:49:58to the judge tomorrow Stephen delavo
2:50:01very very nice to see you her audacity
2:50:04is sending me it's
2:50:07audacious atrocious Sonia P says if she
2:50:11asks for a lawyer first would that video
2:50:13have a chance to get banned from trial
2:50:15yes if she asked for a lawyer and they
2:50:17failed to provide it then of course but
2:50:21you know in this investigation they
2:50:23don't need that statement so I don't
2:50:24think there it would ever be a situation
2:50:25where she would ask for a lawyer and
2:50:27they would keep um interrogating her and
2:50:29risk you know a statement not coming in
2:50:32or some type of sanction
2:50:34um but thank you for that question
2:50:34that's exactly astute that's exactly
2:50:36what would happen k-rab thank you for
2:50:38the Super Chat the phone video is why I
2:50:40said the interview is the least of her
2:50:42problems it's available for viewing on
2:50:45YouTube okay we can look at the phone
2:50:47video I think they reference that in the
2:50:49interrogation but it's you know totally
2:50:52I just think that this
2:50:54they're they going with those fireworks
2:50:56oh I hate it oh
2:50:59oh nobody wants to hear your fireworks
2:51:03at like 10 o'clock at night shut up
2:51:07all the happy squirrels
2:51:10has a question can public defenders
2:51:13decline a case like if you were in this
2:51:14jurisdiction and you heard about this
2:51:15client would you refuse to take it if it
2:51:17came across your desk so the public
2:51:19defender's office in Maryland does not
2:51:21decline cases I'm sure individual
2:51:23attorneys can from time to time say you
2:51:25know what I mentally I don't think I can
2:51:27handle this one you know especially if
2:51:29your office has the capacity it may not
2:51:31have the capacity to do that and then
2:51:33you're just SOL but I would not decline
2:51:36this case I would definitely take this
2:51:37case
2:51:38um we have very little say so in what
2:51:41cases we take I'm only talking about for
2:51:43their own perspective I don't know how
2:51:44it is in Florida but for the most part
2:51:45we don't decline cases Sonia P welcome
2:51:48to the lawyer checklist who's super
2:51:50chatting and becoming a member okay
2:51:55uh Jolly John 11 has a question if you
2:51:58ask for an attorney do you need to have
2:51:59a specific one in mind identified or can
2:52:01you ask for a public defender Etc you
2:52:03can ask for a public defender if you
2:52:05qualify for a public defender
2:52:08um and if not you have to get your own
2:52:10attorney
2:52:12and that's based on need based on
2:52:15financial need which you know the way
2:52:16the economy is right now a lot of people
2:52:18qualify for public defenders
2:52:21people are out here struggling okay the
2:52:24economy is in shambles shiny thank you
2:52:28for the super sticker meso Carib
2:52:32um I understand what you're saying but
2:52:33can we get a little more defense okay
2:52:35and I okay so all of those other ones I
2:52:37think I read
2:52:39um I don't think so wait k-rab says the
2:52:42defense she is currently working with is
2:52:45a battered woman syndrome I did show
2:52:47this on the on the page but I did not
2:52:49read it that is correct I don't think
2:52:52she's going to be very successful in
2:52:53that thank you for that Super Chat
2:52:55Enchanted wolf had to had to uh you know
2:52:57go but
2:52:59thank you for stopping by with the Super
2:53:01Chat it's always greatly appreciated
2:53:03paleo-nices are Nicos or nikus says
2:53:07thank you for the Super Chat the problem
2:53:09is he didn't say what her reaction was
2:53:11or if she demanded he paid for the
2:53:12wedding dad just called her rude and
2:53:14we're filling in the blanks paleo is
2:53:16back to the um aita am I the a-hole for
2:53:21not wanting to pay for my daughter's
2:53:23wedding when she doesn't want me to walk
2:53:25her down the aisle because she's not a
2:53:27piece of property but I'm paying for the
2:53:29wedding so I always look forward to that
2:53:30and so since she won't let me I won't
2:53:32pay for the wedding unless she lets me
2:53:35walk her down the aisle and you guys
2:53:36said
2:53:3725 she was the a-hole
2:53:4018 the dad is the a-hole and 57 said
2:53:45both is the eight it is the a-hole I
2:53:47don't know what the answer is I'm really
2:53:49struggling with this one still in my
2:53:50mind
2:53:51um but I think probably paleo is the
2:53:53closest I don't think we can really make
2:53:55an assessment until we know like if she
2:53:57was like Dad I don't want to be a piece
2:53:59of property I don't want you to walk me
2:54:00down the aisle and he's like you know
2:54:03um well I'm not paying for your wedding
2:54:04then and she if she's like okay well
2:54:06then you won't pay for my wedding or
2:54:08okay you can walk me down the aisle
2:54:10sorry I hurt your feelings or whatever
2:54:11the case would be we don't everything is
2:54:13so much from his perspective like he's
2:54:15not saying what she's saying you know
2:54:17that you're right we really don't know
2:54:19how she's reacting to him so it's hard
2:54:22to know one way or the other and also
2:54:24like I can understand his hurt and also
2:54:26understand her desire to Askew those
2:54:28type of traditions but she's still
2:54:31traditionally having her father pay for
2:54:33her wedding which is something many
2:54:35people don't have the opportunity to
2:54:36have so
2:54:37I don't know what the right answer is in
2:54:39that one it really befuddles me Jared
2:54:42Stark said it was first world problems
2:54:44we did read that one
2:54:48the American dream instantaneously
2:54:49getting things you cannot financially
2:54:51afford
2:54:53I'm just gonna show you guys these ones
2:54:57and equality felt the same way that
2:55:00maybe the dad is not telling the whole
2:55:01story
2:55:02teenager financed my wedding but you
2:55:04cannot take part Mr investor and I
2:55:07remember reading that one very very good
2:55:10um if you were local like me would you
2:55:12go watch in court says J Michael RN
2:55:14thank you for the Super Chat I would if
2:55:16I had time I would for sure 12th Heaven
2:55:19astrology hey Natalie what is your sign
2:55:21thank you for the Super Chat oh my God
2:55:24okay so I have to tell you my brother is
2:55:27big into like Signs and astrology I
2:55:29guess is what you call it and I am not
2:55:31but the only thing I know I don't know
2:55:33any of the other things like this house
2:55:35and that Moon I don't know anything
2:55:36about that I'm a Virgo September 16th
2:55:40I'm a Virgo that's all I know
2:55:43and my brother tells me I'm very much a
2:55:46Virgo oh it's such a Virgo thing to do
2:55:53chat at first
2:55:54at firstly going for the insanity
2:55:55defense nah she's going for too stupid
2:55:57to lock up
2:56:01mezzo carob says is this right
2:56:03intentional does not always mean to
2:56:05intentionally kill it could be
2:56:06intentional acts that a reasonable
2:56:08person could foresee leading to a
2:56:10person's death that is right that is
2:56:13right and sometimes that's how you get
2:56:15to uh manslaughter sometimes that's how
2:56:18you get to second degree depending on
2:56:20the statute and I haven't looked at the
2:56:22Florida statute in regards to this and I
2:56:25need to read some more cases on on
2:56:26battered women's syndrome and murder and
2:56:28look at exactly what she's indicted on
2:56:30so I'm gonna look at those things and we
2:56:32can do an analysis of that but that is
2:56:34right it can still be oh I didn't mean
2:56:36for him to die like I didn't wake up
2:56:38this morning and tell him to die but you
2:56:39took actions that were in a reckless
2:56:41disregard for a human life that the
2:56:43likely outcome could have been death and
2:56:45that's definitely a crime no matter how
2:56:48you
2:56:48um class it
2:56:50okay I think that takes care of all
2:56:52super chats and all of the questions uh
2:56:56to pray tart murder exactly
2:56:59um oh hey Candy's life a fellow Virgo
2:57:02um all right my friends
2:57:04um thank you all so much for joining me
2:57:06this evening this has been a phenomenal
2:57:08live stream I am going to take this
2:57:10moment to
2:57:12um put timestamps
2:57:15uh chapters in this live stream I'm
2:57:18gonna do that right now because people
2:57:19have been yelling at me like enough
2:57:20Natalie we need some chapters
2:57:23all right my guys see you all later my
2:57:26beautiful lawyer Chiclets I will see you
2:57:28all tomorrow where we will cover Miss
2:57:30Boone's letters bye

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