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Sarah Boone Full Interview with Face Cam — Transcript

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  1. 0:19sir you're charged with a especially
  2. 0:21aggravated kidnapping you're also
  3. 0:23charged with aggravated assault and
  4. 0:26you're charged with theft of a firearm
  5. 0:28worth less than 2,500
  6. 0:30you're talking about stuff that is not
  7. 0:34relevant hello and welcome to the court
  8. 0:36of public opinion I am the recovery
  9. 0:37addict and boy do I have a case for you
  10. 0:39today why is a dog chewing on this guy I
  11. 0:42think they have got the wrong guy there
  12. 0:43they got the wrong guy and the dog was
  13. 0:45was biting him he roughing him up quite
  14. 0:47a bit there's a
  15. 0:49lawsuit I did no I'm not pton mansley
  16. 0:53John Milton I'm the agent authorized to
  17. 0:55represent Payton anley John Milton has
  18. 0:57written in all capital
  19. 0:58letters thank you
  20. 1:00and as to Mr Milton is there a
  21. 1:02competency concern or is
  22. 1:05this I am not represented by anybody
  23. 1:08besides
  24. 1:10myself in my sovereign capacity
  25. 1:12appreciate you thank you your honor I
  26. 1:14did have an opportunity to speak to him
  27. 1:16I read him the reports
  28. 1:26he all right just trying to find where
  29. 1:28the buttons are it's a Monday morning
  30. 1:30good morning welcome to the court of
  31. 1:31public opinion I am the recovery addict
  32. 1:34thank you so much for being here uh it
  33. 1:36is uh it's going to be another
  34. 1:37incredibly fun week we have a new trial
  35. 1:40that starts tomorrow kicks off tomorrow
  36. 1:41with the wower trial it's going to be
  37. 1:43amazing it's going to be awesome and uh
  38. 1:45that being said I have a cable that
  39. 1:46doesn't want to go where it wants to go
  40. 1:48I don't I don't need
  41. 1:50this I can go over there for now um
  42. 1:54let's see uh Monday morning hope you had
  43. 1:56a fabulous weekend welcome back it was
  44. 1:58uh it was a very restful week weekend
  45. 2:00for me I does it look like I just woke
  46. 2:03up no I'm just kidding I didn't I didn't
  47. 2:04I actually got up and I did uh shave and
  48. 2:06I took off about a millimeter of the
  49. 2:08outside of the goatee I can show you
  50. 2:10this the it's a it's a little bit
  51. 2:13narrower it's like one uh hair follicle
  52. 2:15narrower than it was before I'm slowly
  53. 2:17losing it um as I as every time I trim
  54. 2:20it it just gets a little bit smaller
  55. 2:21anyway uh it's still there because you
  56. 2:23guys have voted and it's still there
  57. 2:24although now that I've kept it for one
  58. 2:26more day like all bets are off it may it
  59. 2:28may go I'm starting to get a little
  60. 2:29bugged by it it like tickles my my lips
  61. 2:32in the corners all right um let's see
  62. 2:34what we have we have a couple things to
  63. 2:36do first thing in the morning of course
  64. 2:38that's not working because you know that
  65. 2:40would be too good let's
  66. 2:42see scan USB my computer's going super
  67. 2:46super slow because at right now I'm not
  68. 2:50a cat it's not even working now oh
  69. 2:52that's cuz I need to start this one as
  70. 2:53well um right now it's actually it's
  71. 2:57actually rendering the video we're
  72. 2:58supposed to watch today and the video is
  73. 3:002 hours long I I realize that's 5
  74. 3:04minutes longer than the other complete
  75. 3:05video that's listed out on YouTube um so
  76. 3:08I don't know what five minutes they cut
  77. 3:10out but we have the whole thing with one
  78. 3:13exception um this video the the Sarah
  79. 3:16Boon video I've got here I actually
  80. 3:17received back from the Orange County
  81. 3:19Sheriff's Office finally finally last
  82. 3:21week I I can't even remember when I
  83. 3:24requested it it was months ago but I
  84. 3:26finally got the request back today they
  85. 3:28gave me both camera angles of the
  86. 3:30interrogation um if you've watched this
  87. 3:32online before you've seen that uh it's
  88. 3:34been edited and they've switched back
  89. 3:35and forth between the two well I wanted
  90. 3:37to see it differently I always wanted to
  91. 3:39see Sarah Boon's reaction her face her
  92. 3:41Expressions her body language throughout
  93. 3:43the interview and so I've edited this
  94. 3:45together so you basically have the Sarah
  95. 3:46cam with her up in the corner you can
  96. 3:48see her the whole time and the rest of
  97. 3:50the video see see both at the same time
  98. 3:52that's the that's the gist of what I did
  99. 3:55let's see now it's working all right uh
  100. 3:56Kim R congratulations uh repeat offender
  101. 3:59my have to say repeat offender uh you
  102. 4:01have been uh first in chat many times
  103. 4:03and as you are today and it has its
  104. 4:05penalty punishment or prize as depends
  105. 4:07on how you view it um I think you think
  106. 4:09it's a prize which we're okay with we're
  107. 4:11okay with because somebody has to do
  108. 4:12this uh Kim being first in chat means
  109. 4:14that everything IP related in the
  110. 4:16internet worldwide is yours to take care
  111. 4:18of this morning so thank you for uh for
  112. 4:21volunteering um by by being first in
  113. 4:23chat because it's all yours uh if you do
  114. 4:25plan on like renaming it or something
  115. 4:27just let us know so we know where to
  116. 4:28look for it uh thank you Kim uh looks
  117. 4:31like Dolly Q just gifted a membership
  118. 4:32this morning to kick things off thank
  119. 4:34you very much Dolly does that sound a
  120. 4:35little hot to you like sounds just a
  121. 4:37little bit poppy maybe it maybe it's
  122. 4:40that early Monday morning I'm not quite
  123. 4:42ready for that volume we got to slowly
  124. 4:43dial it up uh doy Q looks like that uh
  125. 4:47the gifted membership went to Lena H
  126. 4:50congratulations let's see what else do
  127. 4:52we have here um let's uh I'm checking to
  128. 4:57see if I missed anything two different
  129. 4:59camera Ang on the interview might be
  130. 5:00telling I'm excited to see this yes um
  131. 5:02red pen when they when they sent this to
  132. 5:04me they said it's redacted I'm like what
  133. 5:06what did he redact out of the interview
  134. 5:07okay there wasn't there wasn't much in
  135. 5:09there really to that would warrant
  136. 5:11redacting um and sure enough they did
  137. 5:13blur out on this copy the screen like
  138. 5:16the laptop computer screen when they're
  139. 5:19logging in when they're like oh you know
  140. 5:20the battery goes dead and they plug it
  141. 5:22in to log in um so they blurred that out
  142. 5:24that's redacted so we we can't
  143. 5:26accidentally see their password you know
  144. 5:28and that that's funny um and then
  145. 5:30there's like 26 seconds when they ask
  146. 5:34saroon what do
  147. 5:36you why don't you tell us what this
  148. 5:38video is all about we're listening and
  149. 5:40the next 26 seconds are redacted as far
  150. 5:42as audio we just get a beep which I've
  151. 5:44cut out cuz nobody likes to listen to a
  152. 5:46beep for 26 seconds so I've cut that
  153. 5:48part out but I did find that previous
  154. 5:51people who had requested this did not
  155. 5:52get the re redacted version so I have
  156. 5:54the the sound bite to play over that so
  157. 5:57basically we get the audio and the video
  158. 5:59so it's a complete thing I just have to
  159. 6:01sort of merge the two together as it
  160. 6:03happens um anyway um let's see Sheila
  161. 6:05says welcome to the gallery again looks
  162. 6:07like that green cour house is is suiting
  163. 6:09suiting you well looks looks good on you
  164. 6:11really uh thank you very much appreciate
  165. 6:13your
  166. 6:14support um I'm sting a short day of wait
  167. 6:16so it won't feel like a short day after
  168. 6:18two hours of Sarah Boon uh saying it's
  169. 6:20not intentional Ashley it's G to it's
  170. 6:23going to be fun we might do some Court
  171. 6:24hopping later as
  172. 6:26well um let's see
  173. 6:31cashet what year is it
  174. 6:342023 all year
  175. 6:37long okay is there anything else I have
  176. 6:39to get food ready before we start Sarah
  177. 6:40so lurking till I return sounds good are
  178. 6:43you there yes can you see
  179. 6:47me K I'm here I'm just behind in chat I
  180. 6:50think that's all the delay is
  181. 6:53unintentional so soon so soon too soon
  182. 6:57um let me scroll up to where it looks
  183. 6:59like people are taking a seat so that's
  184. 7:01working um is the trial starting
  185. 7:03tomorrow what's the trial that's going
  186. 7:04to be the
  187. 7:06Thomas Thomas Randolph this is a retrial
  188. 7:09this is a murder um trial but it's
  189. 7:11actually previously he was convicted and
  190. 7:13sentenced to death row um then he
  191. 7:17appealed um because there was too much
  192. 7:19prior acts that were brought in and he
  193. 7:21won his appeal so now he gets a retrial
  194. 7:23which could result in putting him back
  195. 7:25on death row um so it's this is in the
  196. 7:28state of Nevada as well so that one
  197. 7:29starts
  198. 7:30tomorrow um let's see the goatee
  199. 7:33survived barely it was so close um had
  200. 7:36had I had the proper Hardware to remove
  201. 7:38it I think it would be gone so I need to
  202. 7:39go get a a nice good uh What do they
  203. 7:42call them now a safety razor like a a
  204. 7:44bick and just trim it I need to get nice
  205. 7:48and wet and lather it up and everything
  206. 7:49and then just it's so satisfying just to
  207. 7:52remove a goatee but then you sort of
  208. 7:53regret afterwards either also um let's
  209. 7:57see Estella so that's the trial tomorrow
  210. 7:59also known as the widower he uh of his
  211. 8:02last six wives four of them died under
  212. 8:04suspicious circumstances um some of them
  213. 8:06including um his
  214. 8:07fault stop trimming too much says Caper
  215. 8:11it's it's not intentional it's not like
  216. 8:13I'm like let's see if I can get one more
  217. 8:15you know millimeter narrower it just
  218. 8:17happens I just try to trim right up to
  219. 8:19the edge and then the razor catches a
  220. 8:21little bit and it's like now I need to
  221. 8:22straighten out the other
  222. 8:24side okay I had a great weekend Dodie
  223. 8:26thanks for asking time for a new
  224. 8:27computer um probably it really is um
  225. 8:32it's let's see it's almost it's almost
  226. 8:35done
  227. 8:36rendering the file is 13.61%
  228. 9:00um Louis Cox says hoay love anything
  229. 9:02Sarah Boon I hope you like the way I put
  230. 9:04this together I realize that the content
  231. 9:06itself has been available um in one form
  232. 9:08or another uh for quite a while but uh
  233. 9:10just being able to watch her body
  234. 9:12language throughout this and her
  235. 9:13reaction facial expression cuz watching
  236. 9:15somebody from the top down like the top
  237. 9:17of your head uh that you that's how we
  238. 9:20see her for most of the interview um
  239. 9:22it's it's not very telling but when when
  240. 9:23you get to see her reactions and some of
  241. 9:25her hand movements and things like that
  242. 9:26that is uh Tracy cannot wait for this
  243. 9:29trial it's coming eventually probably as
  244. 9:33soon as uh BK goes to trial this is
  245. 9:34going to go forward as well good morning
  246. 9:36Juniper as well good to have you here um
  247. 9:39welcome welcome let me
  248. 9:41see I scrolled and there was something I
  249. 9:43was in the middle of reading now it's
  250. 9:44gone Boon is not the brightest bulb
  251. 9:47you're going to see that here a little
  252. 9:48bit but but she really does believe what
  253. 9:50she's saying I think it is it is gold
  254. 9:53it's wonderful we just have to stall for
  255. 9:55a minute weather watch look at this
  256. 9:57seven Monon message I think you've been
  257. 9:59holding on to this one for a little bit
  258. 10:01um congratulations Thomas thank you very
  259. 10:04much wonderful podcast on Friday if you
  260. 10:06guys missed it we had uh Brandy and JT
  261. 10:09um two of our great friends here on
  262. 10:10YouTube from the True Crime community
  263. 10:12and most of you know them if you don't
  264. 10:13you should uh they were on uh here with
  265. 10:16us as well and that was just it was just
  266. 10:18a blast Thomas did a great job as always
  267. 10:20uh one of the best interviewers just
  268. 10:22sent a super sticker with two
  269. 10:25try I've been saying it long try I'm
  270. 10:27going to call you try from now on thank
  271. 10:29thank you very much Tracy for your super
  272. 10:31sticker appreciate that hey you love
  273. 10:34that um let's see Cheryl says I sent you
  274. 10:37a link to the burner for December trial
  275. 10:39let me check the burner really quickly
  276. 10:40I've got it here with me I actually need
  277. 10:42to plug it
  278. 10:45in I'm going to need to summon one of my
  279. 10:48little
  280. 10:54Ras I have to run my burner phone off a
  281. 10:58backup battery
  282. 10:59while I'm while I'm live streaming
  283. 11:01because for some reason it puts a hum in
  284. 11:03the audio if I plug it into any of the
  285. 11:05electrical
  286. 11:07system let's see um check oh I was
  287. 11:09checking the messages just one second
  288. 11:12um
  289. 11:14see this is the
  290. 11:21Baltimore Cheryl I've got a lot of
  291. 11:23messages this morning I'm just trying to
  292. 11:24see which one it is oh a couple cases to
  293. 11:26look into I think this is it
  294. 11:31okay Thomas Randolph uh that's one we're
  295. 11:33looking in um September 11th Kowski
  296. 11:37family my as the child there's a
  297. 11:39documentary it's uh sounds like it
  298. 11:41involves
  299. 11:46children okay I'll look at this hang on
  300. 11:48let me let me page a little runner for
  301. 11:50me
  302. 12:12all right they are bringing me the uh
  303. 12:14the power cord so my phone won't die uh
  304. 12:17thank you Caper the podcast was a lot of
  305. 12:18fun I love it the just great people I
  306. 12:21love to hang out with them so today with
  307. 12:22Sarah Boon we're going to watch uh we're
  308. 12:24going to watch Sarah Boon during her
  309. 12:25interview which we haven't been able to
  310. 12:27see before I haven't seen anyone else
  311. 12:28that's had this footage from this angle
  312. 12:30um that's shared it that way so so we're
  313. 12:33going to get that ready but it's still
  314. 12:34rendering just hold tight hold tight
  315. 12:36it's
  316. 12:38uh I will tell you this is about the
  317. 12:40seventh time I've tried to render this
  318. 12:42and it keeps finding dropped frames in
  319. 12:44the original footage because the footage
  320. 12:46is like um it's only a couple years old
  321. 12:48but the camera was sort of crappy that
  322. 12:50recorded it and so occasionally it has a
  323. 12:52drop frame in there and it's it's a
  324. 12:55little iffy that way but if there's
  325. 12:58another drop frame I'm just going to to
  326. 12:59play it straight from my editor which we
  327. 13:01can do but I'd rather have it finish
  328. 13:04have it finish and be a completed
  329. 13:10file so I did uh tell you this this is
  330. 13:13what exciting something that might
  331. 13:14preserve the life of my laptop just a
  332. 13:16little bit longer over the weekend I
  333. 13:17discovered that I had about 271 gabt of
  334. 13:20space that was taken up by something
  335. 13:22known as Windows on my Mac um I never
  336. 13:25used dual boot I never used Windows on
  337. 13:27my Mac so I went ahead and removed that
  338. 13:29and so I've got like 25% free space on
  339. 13:32my on my hard drive all of a sudden
  340. 13:33where I used to be like fighting for
  341. 13:35every
  342. 13:36gigabyte Rebecca good morning to you as
  343. 13:39well we're we're stalling just briefly
  344. 13:42as the as the file is exported
  345. 13:44successfully so
  346. 13:45far Thomas Randolph has a hearing this
  347. 13:47morning jury selection
  348. 13:53tomorrow the hearings usually go really
  349. 13:55fast and I'm not sure if it's going to
  350. 13:56be covered um I have some paperwork
  351. 13:59still sorted with the court we're trying
  352. 14:00to get all the the t's crossed and the
  353. 14:03eyes
  354. 14:06dotted okay interrogation C cameras are
  355. 14:10still crappy in 2023 KT the the problem
  356. 14:13is they they try to make the cameras
  357. 14:14look like they're just regular security
  358. 14:16cameras and they are they need they need
  359. 14:20high quality cameras and especially
  360. 14:23especially high quality audio systems
  361. 14:25and that starts with changing the room
  362. 14:28itself
  363. 14:29and that can be a little a bit of a
  364. 14:31problem because it becomes less secure
  365. 14:32if you have a a padded wall literally a
  366. 14:35an item like a a needle or a sharp
  367. 14:38dagger type thing that's narrow could be
  368. 14:40hidden in that soft foam of the wall but
  369. 14:42it would sound great so instead police
  370. 14:46departments tend to go with cinder block
  371. 14:47which is very hard it's very the echoey
  372. 14:49it's very a flat sort of sound that's
  373. 14:51not very
  374. 14:53good um woohoo love anything to do with
  375. 14:56SB what what a Nutter watch your
  376. 14:57interrogation hundreds sad I know we're
  377. 15:00going to watch that same interrogation
  378. 15:01but with both angles so you're going to
  379. 15:03be able to see her from the top down as
  380. 15:05well as her face at all times um almost
  381. 15:08all times occasionally somebody stands
  382. 15:09in front of the camera but Adam
  383. 15:13Montgomery sentencing this today for
  384. 15:14weapons
  385. 15:19charges let's
  386. 15:23see my ring camera does better audio and
  387. 15:26video the technology is there it really
  388. 15:28is I I I don't know why it hasn't uh
  389. 15:30filtered down it's it's that and Bank
  390. 15:32security cameras why is it that the
  391. 15:34banks that we trust with all of our
  392. 15:35money our life savings you know we end
  393. 15:37up putting in the bank you know all our
  394. 15:39earnings go through the bank and we
  395. 15:41trust them to take care of that when
  396. 15:42they they can't even buy a a camera
  397. 15:45that's better than the one we can pick
  398. 15:46up at best bu on sale for 25 bucks
  399. 15:50and it just it it blows my mind we need
  400. 15:53we need high resolution 4K I want like
  401. 15:55six different angles of any robbery in a
  402. 15:57bank you know a Flor camera like we
  403. 16:00could mount a camera on the floor as
  404. 16:01he's running and jumping out the door we
  405. 16:03could get like still shots of that the
  406. 16:05technology is there and it really should
  407. 16:06be implemented maybe I need to start a
  408. 16:08business to do that Anna says hey I
  409. 16:11missed you a lot welcome back Anna thank
  410. 16:13you so much um I don't I put my money in
  411. 16:15the Box forget those Banks
  412. 16:18Estrella um the Open Air Festival at
  413. 16:21whackin was
  414. 16:23great love a good
  415. 16:27Festival okay
  416. 16:29it's still
  417. 16:33thinking is anyone covering the Adam
  418. 16:35Montgomery senten today I heard no one
  419. 16:36was covering I don't know if it's being
  420. 16:39televised just because there's there's
  421. 16:41so much else going on um we'll have to
  422. 16:46check Linda James says I think sbu knew
  423. 16:49what she was doing putting him in and
  424. 16:50zipping him in that suitcase she may
  425. 16:52well have fallen asleep she left him
  426. 16:54knowing he couldn't get out she didn't
  427. 16:55turn the suit didn't she turn the
  428. 16:57suitcase over Yes and she'll say that
  429. 16:58today you're going to hear that very
  430. 17:02clearly Alfonso welcome you're you're
  431. 17:04late but you're here so we'll give you a
  432. 17:06pass today
  433. 17:07only I see I've got
  434. 17:09the the Emoji heart that seems to be
  435. 17:12played strong let me go ahead and get
  436. 17:15rid of that for a
  437. 17:21second live reactions gone there we
  438. 17:27go okay there the
  439. 17:33heart Carri B says I was a teller in a
  440. 17:35robbery the most important asset or the
  441. 17:37humans in the building I agree I agree
  442. 17:39there's that number one there's there's
  443. 17:42usually no possession you have that's
  444. 17:44more important than your life okay
  445. 17:46unless unless they're trying to take
  446. 17:48another human from you like a child or
  447. 17:49something then then you know there's
  448. 17:52there's worth worth putting up a fight
  449. 17:53but usually give them what they want and
  450. 17:55they'll probably leave without hurting
  451. 17:57anybody that's the odds are better in
  452. 17:59that favor what do you think of the
  453. 18:01Karen Reed case I love this one I love
  454. 18:03this one the case we're following today
  455. 18:06because Jonathan because we're picking
  456. 18:07up the the woodware case tomorrow we're
  457. 18:10doing Sarah Boon today um that I've
  458. 18:13re-edited the uh the interrogation from
  459. 18:16that which is is still thinking about
  460. 18:20about
  461. 18:21completing it's so close I'm just hoping
  462. 18:24it doesn't find another dropped frame or
  463. 18:25else I'll just have to play it
  464. 18:27differently but we're going to we're
  465. 18:29going to watch that and and it's going
  466. 18:30to be uh it's going to be a lot of
  467. 18:32fun it's we've got two angles so we've
  468. 18:35got her reaction I think this is the
  469. 18:37angle that Dr G would want to analyze if
  470. 18:39he wanted to analyze body language
  471. 18:41during her interview because it it gives
  472. 18:43you just such a a better picture of
  473. 18:45her let's shoot for the 23,000 Mark
  474. 18:48we're so close we're close to
  475. 18:5223,000 oh would you look at that 22,9 49
  476. 18:58that that is very very close we're we're
  477. 18:5951 people away from uh 23,000
  478. 19:05subscribers now that the sboon trial has
  479. 19:07been pushed back do you think she will
  480. 19:08still be coming down do you think you
  481. 19:10will still be coming down for the trial
  482. 19:12Dodie here's the problem it's it's
  483. 19:14pushed on top of all the other trials
  484. 19:15especially BK and BK I'm really wanting
  485. 19:18to go to um I realize it's probably
  486. 19:21going to be a much longer trial um so
  487. 19:23it's going to be a long time in a Airbnb
  488. 19:25or something up there in Idaho uh but uh
  489. 19:29I I just want to I want to be there for
  490. 19:30BK that's especially because Idaho has
  491. 19:33this um this habit of of making it
  492. 19:36really hard to get the video and audio
  493. 19:37that we want I'm thinking of the uh the
  494. 19:39Lori valow case specifically so being
  495. 19:42there makes it a little
  496. 19:44easier when I joined we were working for
  497. 19:468,000 Anna look what you caused you
  498. 19:498,000 you joined and now we're up to 20
  499. 19:51almost 23,000 there's a fly in my studio
  500. 19:54it's it's currently on my camera right
  501. 19:57there good thing is not on the lens
  502. 19:59though that would be
  503. 20:02worse nasty nasty weather expected out
  504. 20:05east today is that uh where I'm
  505. 20:09at Thomas are you are you giving me
  506. 20:11plenty of
  507. 20:13warning do you think the BK Trail will
  508. 20:15be pushed into 2024 Jenny G I wish I
  509. 20:18knew the answer to this and here's
  510. 20:19here's my thinking on on Brian coburger
  511. 20:22he has done everything in his power
  512. 20:24right now to sort of force the state
  513. 20:26into a speedy trial which the state does
  514. 20:28not want
  515. 20:29they have a lot of evidence to go
  516. 20:30through they have a lot of things to
  517. 20:32match up and if they go speedy trial and
  518. 20:35it actually you know goes to trial here
  519. 20:37in another you know month or two um that
  520. 20:41they won't be able to get the
  521. 20:42presentation and the preparation they
  522. 20:44want done um that may help BK but at the
  523. 20:48same time he is limited in his defense
  524. 20:51similarly because he doesn't know he
  525. 20:54hasn't gone through everything his
  526. 20:55lawyers there's no way they've gone
  527. 20:56through everything yet and they'll sort
  528. 20:58of be shooting from the hip on the
  529. 20:59defense so it hurts him and it helps him
  530. 21:01I'm not sure which way he's going to end
  531. 21:02up I think when it comes to it he'll
  532. 21:04probably push it out and if he does push
  533. 21:06it out it could go years
  534. 21:09out the the one thing I don't want is
  535. 21:12him to push it out after I fly out to
  536. 21:13Idaho and and then we just get a you
  537. 21:16know maybe we'll go to Yellowstone
  538. 21:18together and check out the G the
  539. 21:20geysers okay um sbon is obsessed with
  540. 21:23her letters and fan mail still has no
  541. 21:24clue that her Reckless drunken Behavior
  542. 21:25led to someone's death so sad she uh the
  543. 21:29the part that gets me in here is uh is
  544. 21:32you'll you'll hear it when she says
  545. 21:34nevertheless
  546. 21:35nevertheless uh listen to what she says
  547. 21:37when she says nevertheless I'm like oh
  548. 21:39my goodness she just does not get it um
  549. 21:42weat PA is going to get
  550. 21:45shmammered uh it's like getting hammered
  551. 21:47but shmammered that's
  552. 21:51worse after 4 today in in eastern North
  553. 21:54Carolina it's supposed to be sketchy
  554. 21:55that's where I am so maybe we'll have a
  555. 21:57tornado watch up here
  556. 21:59it's going to be stormy this afternoon
  557. 22:00I'll I'll keep an ear to the
  558. 22:04ground okay it's getting really really
  559. 22:06close to being
  560. 22:09done okay I missed I didn't see any
  561. 22:11birthdays I didn't see any birthdays or
  562. 22:13anniversaries anybody to shout out
  563. 22:15today um she has fan mail she's getting
  564. 22:18a lot of mail now quite a bit
  565. 22:29is it crazy that I get all my news and
  566. 22:30weather forecasts on the recovery addict
  567. 22:32channel the brown
  568. 22:34Barn uh that's awesome uh not the not
  569. 22:37the two
  570. 22:38uh proportionately the the two highest
  571. 22:41um
  572. 22:42content Types on the channel but uh I'm
  573. 22:45glad that we can get you what you
  574. 22:52need uh the who's the one who sees says
  575. 22:56I think the evidence against BK is so
  576. 22:57strong that it don't matter rather he
  577. 22:59has fast or later he's never getting out
  578. 23:02um I I know I I see that right there's
  579. 23:05there's a lot of evidence DNA there may
  580. 23:07be multiple DNA points okay the way
  581. 23:10things are written it's possible there's
  582. 23:11there's more evidence of his DNA in
  583. 23:13there or more evidence has been
  584. 23:15discovered since we've heard about the
  585. 23:17the evidence on the knife sheath
  586. 23:20um there's a lot that way but they are
  587. 23:24they're looking for the problem they're
  588. 23:26looking for the flaw they're looking for
  589. 23:27where the court something wrong or the
  590. 23:29prosecution did something wrong or the
  591. 23:31police did something wrong to exclude
  592. 23:33evidence and once if they find if they
  593. 23:35find things where the police made an
  594. 23:37error where there was a you know a a
  595. 23:40gross oversight in a in a search warrant
  596. 23:42or something that was executed and
  597. 23:44suddenly all the evidence they collect
  598. 23:46under that search warrant gets excluded
  599. 23:48that's where things can change that's
  600. 23:50where it can make a huge difference and
  601. 23:51they have you know he has a lawyer that
  602. 23:54is very good at finding those sort of
  603. 23:56things and they're they're digging
  604. 23:57through with the fine tooth comb trying
  605. 23:58to find anything that could possibly
  606. 24:00help him okay this fly is taunting me
  607. 24:02it's uh I need that uh what's it called
  608. 24:06The Bug Assault I need to get one of
  609. 24:07those I keep looking at the store I'm
  610. 24:09thinking I need to just grab one
  611. 24:15um Caper says if I were to write to
  612. 24:17sarbon which one that were happen she
  613. 24:18will clearly see I'm not a fan then she
  614. 24:20she might not read your letter you know
  615. 24:22if you don't put any unicorns on it
  616. 24:29okay we
  617. 24:30are we're almost ready it's going so
  618. 24:33slowly this is this is driving me nuts
  619. 24:34we might have to do a little Court
  620. 24:35hopping while we
  621. 24:40wait yeah this is not the sort of
  622. 24:42interview you want to watch by yourself
  623. 24:43it'll be much better with friends as we
  624. 24:45talk this over um for those that have
  625. 24:47not watched it yet it's it's a lot to
  626. 24:49sit through but with us together it'll
  627. 24:51be a lot of fun even the slow Parts
  628. 24:52it'll be it'll be interesting and
  629. 24:54there's a lot to pull out of here she
  630. 24:56says so much it's it's almost like her
  631. 24:57whole case she could be tried entirely
  632. 24:59on just things she says in this case and
  633. 25:02I I'll have a question for you legal
  634. 25:03Minds as well um there's something that
  635. 25:06the the lawyer the sorry the
  636. 25:08investigators forgot to do until the
  637. 25:10very end and I'm wondering if it has the
  638. 25:13same let's see
  639. 25:16efficacy as uh as if they had done it at
  640. 25:19the beginning and I want you to watch
  641. 25:21for that and listen to that the fly
  642. 25:23assault gun works best if you wait until
  643. 25:24the fly lands that's when I get
  644. 25:26them do you have the a laser pointer on
  645. 25:29yours
  646. 25:36Cindy uh Selena it it is fun to watch
  647. 25:38it's it's interesting to to see just
  648. 25:41exactly what she thinks is happening and
  649. 25:42when she notices things are not going
  650. 25:44her way it's a lot of fun no laser
  651. 25:47pointer say
  652. 25:51Cindy and didn't he say when he was
  653. 25:53arrested something about who else did a
  654. 25:55did arrest
  655. 26:00yes apolline you're talking about BK um
  656. 26:03there was there was a something that
  657. 26:05went around the media right away that
  658. 26:06when he was arrested he had said
  659. 26:07something like am I the only suspect or
  660. 26:10was who else has been arrested type
  661. 26:12thing there was some sort of comment I I
  662. 26:14think his lawyer um sort of shot that
  663. 26:17down says I don't recall him saying
  664. 26:18anything like that um so we haven't and
  665. 26:21because of the gag order we really
  666. 26:22haven't had a confirmation one way or
  667. 26:23another I don't think anyone filmed it
  668. 26:25that was outside the you know the circle
  669. 26:28people who can't release that
  670. 26:29information so I'm not sure if that that
  671. 26:31actually happened if that was just a
  672. 26:33rumor there's a lot to unpack here oh
  673. 26:36man Tish there's a ton cases at least
  674. 26:39one in
  675. 26:41particular I love my Bug
  676. 26:45Assault okay
  677. 26:47it's I'm just going to have to play it
  678. 26:49off the The Final
  679. 26:56Cut what's his gift mean if you type
  680. 26:59gift with an s on the end um exclamation
  681. 27:01point gift with an s on the end Tom Taz
  682. 27:03um it it brings up a link in chat that
  683. 27:06you can click on that you can turn if
  684. 27:07you move the button the slider to the
  685. 27:09right it enables gifts on the channel
  686. 27:11which means if someone gives a
  687. 27:12membership gift YouTube will see that
  688. 27:14you're willing to accept one and they'll
  689. 27:16include you in the the possible
  690. 27:18recipients
  691. 27:20list so there it is uh Sharon did it
  692. 27:22right there you click that link and make
  693. 27:24sure the slider is moved over to the
  694. 27:25right
  695. 27:28uh yes we did go over her last letter
  696. 27:29already um we're we expect most likely
  697. 27:32one more letter one more letter the rate
  698. 27:35she's been writing she's sort of doing
  699. 27:36it almost on a monthly
  700. 27:38basis I was kick back taking it
  701. 27:42easy uh crafty uh she can't wait for her
  702. 27:45trial either one thing you'll find if
  703. 27:47you read read through all her letters is
  704. 27:49she says I never waved my right to a
  705. 27:51speedy trial and her lawyer waved her
  706. 27:54right to speed the trial for her uh
  707. 27:56supposedly on her instruction
  708. 27:59um but she's saying that didn't happen
  709. 28:00and and she's also saying that uh some
  710. 28:02of these documents that she had some of
  711. 28:04her her notes some of things that she
  712. 28:07had with her original lawyer never made
  713. 28:08it through this list of lawyers as it
  714. 28:10was supposed to be passed from one to
  715. 28:11another to another um it's going to it
  716. 28:16it's going to be interesting so she she
  717. 28:17may actually have an appeal almost
  718. 28:19already in the bag for this trial
  719. 28:21because of inadequate defense with her
  720. 28:25lawyers okay
  721. 28:31is there anything I can shut down to
  722. 28:33make it run
  723. 28:35faster how about all of
  724. 28:47Firefox I've got mail open I don't want
  725. 28:50that
  726. 29:02all right CC member for four months so
  727. 29:04glad to be here with all of you thank
  728. 29:05you very much CeCe we're we're about to
  729. 29:08begin I I think I want to play I want to
  730. 29:10play the sound bite the 26 seconds um
  731. 29:14that got edited out um of the the copy
  732. 29:19that that I just got from the Orange
  733. 29:20County Sheriff but this is uh detective
  734. 29:24we're and we're going to see this I'll
  735. 29:25play it again when it happens but I
  736. 29:26won't just just listen to this a little
  737. 29:28bit to give you an idea of what's coming
  738. 29:29up
  739. 29:30here this video you explain it to us
  740. 29:33we're
  741. 29:34listening I just did like we were
  742. 29:37playing and then like I thought it
  743. 29:41was my plan was not to go upstairs and
  744. 29:45go to sleep my plan was not to he'll be
  745. 29:47up here any minute but you willingly
  746. 29:50went upstairs and went to sleep no one
  747. 29:52forced you to go upstairs and get my
  748. 29:54plan wasn't also to leave him in the
  749. 29:56suitcase so why didn't you take him out
  750. 29:59because I went upstairs and then I fell
  751. 30:01asleep but why didn't you consciously
  752. 30:04think he's asking to come out he I
  753. 30:06didn't do it
  754. 30:08intentionally so that's going to be a
  755. 30:11lot of fun um new bunk Foss gifted five
  756. 30:13memberships uh hope you had your
  757. 30:14settings turned on uh Maddie sandborne
  758. 30:17search search for you dorothia
  759. 30:21aurola P 710 and Tom Taz 76 all gifted
  760. 30:24memberships by new buunk Foss thank you
  761. 30:26very much new buunk appreciate that
  762. 30:29I'm not a camel wonder what the strategy
  763. 30:32was for this interview they usually let
  764. 30:34them tell their story then cat them up
  765. 30:35in lies this one she went straight at
  766. 30:36Sarah she did uh probably because they
  767. 30:38had so much evidence CU she had sort of
  768. 30:41admitted to putting him in there by
  769. 30:43already um you you are going to see
  770. 30:45there's a little bit of hand motions
  771. 30:47Communications back and forth and I do
  772. 30:48zoom in on that when it happens when the
  773. 30:51the male lawyer at the end um indicates
  774. 30:53to the female or sorry the male
  775. 30:55investigator indic indicates to the
  776. 30:56female investigator um something they
  777. 30:58forgot andless she tries to slide it
  778. 31:00into the end but you'll see that as that
  779. 31:03happens um Maddie congratulations good
  780. 31:06to have you in green at the courthouse
  781. 31:08by your
  782. 31:17name man okay we're I think we're going
  783. 31:20to get we're going to get some Court
  784. 31:21hopping ready because as soon as I
  785. 31:22choose some Court hopping this is going
  786. 31:23to finish I I just know that how it
  787. 31:25works
  788. 31:44see
  789. 31:59is that
  790. 32:26correct capers thank you very much uh
  791. 32:28continu the gifting with another five
  792. 32:30memberships Carrie B Tiffany Carter
  793. 32:32sassy girl 69 Jacqueline Robinson and
  794. 32:34the one who sees Hall winners thank you
  795. 32:36very much Caper appreciate that let's
  796. 32:39see what we have here on uh and that the
  797. 32:42young kids and I'm talking or her uh
  798. 32:45you're on the wrong path if you're going
  799. 32:46to start doing this in high school
  800. 32:48you're just getting up in front of me
  801. 32:49someday and I would really rather hope
  802. 32:51that never happens I hope that you stop
  803. 32:55using marijuana and stop thinking it's
  804. 32:57cool and uh variably Tik Tock and social
  805. 33:01media get you busted anyways and I think
  806. 33:03you learn that here in this
  807. 33:05sance
  808. 33:08um but I look at the nature of this
  809. 33:11fence here and when
  810. 33:13I I read the PSI I was starting to
  811. 33:17wonder if I was reading the wrong
  812. 33:18person's
  813. 33:20PSI I thought I was reading a PSI for
  814. 33:23samanth or Samantha Anderson because the
  815. 33:26defendant isn't even me mentioned a name
  816. 33:28he's mentioned in one line one
  817. 33:32word and she when asked whom the pipe
  818. 33:36belonged to she Jered meaning Miss
  819. 33:38Anderson to the defendant your name
  820. 33:41doesn't even appear in the rest of the
  821. 33:43PSI I was trying to figure out exactly
  822. 33:45what you did even though I remember
  823. 33:47reading the uh the police report because
  824. 33:49I think this was a no contest B
  825. 33:53yeah so the court is quite concerned for
  826. 33:57the health and safety of young kids who
  827. 34:00who probably think it's pretty cool to
  828. 34:02use marijuana one of the problems with
  829. 34:04our the the marijuana statute is of
  830. 34:07course for young
  831. 34:08kids it's a civil infraction I don't
  832. 34:12understand that but oh
  833. 34:14well
  834. 34:17um so
  835. 34:21anyways the sentence of the court is as
  836. 34:23follows
  837. 34:40then is placed upon a period of
  838. 34:41probation for 12 months the court will
  839. 34:44communicate to the defendant terms or
  840. 34:46conditions that it finds while suited
  841. 34:48for this particular case and situation
  842. 34:51the defendant will order that the
  843. 34:52defendant cooperate with Subs abuse
  844. 34:55treatment evaluation with his probation
  845. 34:57officer
  846. 34:58he's not to use any intoxicants or
  847. 35:00controlled substances that will include
  848. 35:02recreational
  849. 35:03marijuana uh the court will order that
  850. 35:05he be subject to testing and cooperate
  851. 35:08with any mental health counseling is
  852. 35:09directed by his probation officer and
  853. 35:12other terms or conditions that will be
  854. 35:13communicated the defendant in a separate
  855. 35:15writing from this an order from this
  856. 35:17court the court sentences the defendant
  857. 35:20to a six no I'm sorry $50 State minimum
  858. 35:23fee $75 crime victim's right fund fee a
  859. 35:27a $150 court cost a $200 fine a
  860. 35:33$150 attorney fee supervision fees of
  861. 35:37$30 a month or $60 a month of his
  862. 35:39electronic monitoring I must inform you
  863. 35:42Mr Hitman you have the right to be
  864. 35:43considered for early release from
  865. 35:45probation if at halftime you've
  866. 35:47completed all the terms or conditions
  867. 35:48successfully so thus in 12 in 6 months
  868. 35:51if you complete your programming
  869. 35:53successfully uh you'll have the right to
  870. 35:54be considered for early release from
  871. 35:56that probation
  872. 35:58the court sentences an offended to two
  873. 36:00days of jail two
  874. 36:02days Mr hitzman just don't test positive
  875. 36:05that your big challenge here all right
  876. 36:07thank you and and let's and I'm going to
  877. 36:10tell you the fact that you brought her
  878. 36:12here allowed me to communicate to her
  879. 36:15but I want you to know bringing her here
  880. 36:18I still would have sent you to jail I
  881. 36:19wouldn't have cared if you had to walk
  882. 36:20home it would have been a darn good
  883. 36:22lesson for the girl to figure out how to
  884. 36:24get from here to McBain on a own uh
  885. 36:26she's you're here
  886. 36:28I don't even be part because your
  887. 36:30choices and Samantha's by allowing
  888. 36:32marijuana to be present to where kids
  889. 36:34can have it but you're here because she
  890. 36:38thinks it's cool to use
  891. 36:39marijuana and it's not I agree you're
  892. 36:43thank you all right uh no need to do
  893. 36:45advice of Rights we're at a Mis thank
  894. 36:47you very much good luck we Jour thank
  895. 36:49you thank
  896. 36:52you apparently this judge not a fan of
  897. 36:54Tik Tok social media anything like that
  898. 36:56Lara 7 good afternoon from the from the
  899. 36:59UK welcome good to have you here from
  900. 37:01across the
  901. 37:11pond it's we we we could be seconds or
  902. 37:14minutes away from the the video
  903. 37:16finishing rendering I'd like it to
  904. 37:17render just so I can play by 18 minutes
  905. 37:20unbelievable my gosh on a Monday
  906. 37:25morning gave us little do you have yeah
  907. 37:28she did do you have Bryce C on not until
  908. 37:321 oh he told me nine no it'll be one
  909. 37:35goodness I asked because I'm just
  910. 37:37sitting here thinking well yeah I
  911. 37:39thought that's why you're were here
  912. 37:40it'll be one with judge Ransom yeah it's
  913. 37:42a different I thought so I when I saw no
  914. 37:45offense but when I saw you I was like I
  915. 37:47thought this was a fine thing
  916. 37:51I all right well have a great day and
  917. 37:54you too ma' and I won't keep smiling I
  918. 37:56don't take any offense
  919. 38:00there a comment from the
  920. 38:03gallery sorry thank you
  921. 38:06ma' I think they just cut out just
  922. 38:08turned off the feed you're talking about
  923. 38:11stuff that is not relevant I wish uh hey
  924. 38:14Shane O'Neal hello from Ireland welcome
  925. 38:15good to have you here
  926. 38:34[Music]
  927. 38:36oh that's that's shaming of Jay he's
  928. 38:38waiting for uh he's waiting for judge
  929. 38:40Boyd
  930. 39:00okay let's try this one are we good
  931. 39:04here Mr cin when you fill out the form
  932. 39:07requesting court appointed councel
  933. 39:09please fill it out completely don't
  934. 39:11leave anything blank because uh when the
  935. 39:14court reviews it to make the
  936. 39:16determination if you qualify or
  937. 39:19not does you no good to have
  938. 39:23ambiguities yes please fill it up
  939. 39:26completely as to bond M cast please yes
  940. 39:30to bond your honor my understanding is
  941. 39:31that Mr Collins was brought here
  942. 39:33directly from Ohio he was serving a
  943. 39:35sentence in Ohio he is now on release uh
  944. 39:38supervision status at this time he had
  945. 39:41attempted and I know um according to Mr
  946. 39:43Collins I I spoke with him that the
  947. 39:45facility had also reached out and tried
  948. 39:47to get him arraigned on these warrants I
  949. 39:49don't know the exact dates that they had
  950. 39:51reached out um but these have been
  951. 39:53sitting out there unfortunately while he
  952. 39:55was incarcerated so I just wanted to
  953. 39:57make note of that um he just most
  954. 40:00recently the transition um from his
  955. 40:02incarceration he just completed a
  956. 40:04treatment facility uh for moral and
  957. 40:06cognitive uh thinking skills he just I
  958. 40:09believe that was a 90-day program
  959. 40:10correct sir uh yes that was after the
  960. 40:13year incarceration okay um he just
  961. 40:16completed that he is going to be
  962. 40:17supervised on release status in Ohio so
  963. 40:20he plans on living at the Ohio address
  964. 40:23while he's being supervised this they
  965. 40:25have soundboards on the walls to make it
  966. 40:27sound he has regained his sobriety he's
  967. 40:29very proud of that at this time he's 42
  968. 40:31years old um I would ask the court given
  969. 40:35the nature of these uh allegations they
  970. 40:38date back to last year he's already
  971. 40:39served a lengthy sentence in
  972. 40:41rehabilitative program I would ask the
  973. 40:43court to Grant him release on a personal
  974. 40:45Bond um my understanding is that he can
  975. 40:47leave um if he is granted a bond here he
  976. 40:50can leave directly uh from the Oakland
  977. 40:53County Jail to then start his
  978. 40:55supervision with Ohio
  979. 40:58I do have a good contact number and I'm
  980. 40:59G to send that to the court I'm going to
  981. 41:00message that to the court as well we
  982. 41:02have an address among womens that is not
  983. 41:05accurate he's going to be living in
  984. 41:06Toledo okay if you would chat that
  985. 41:09address too absolutely now it appears
  986. 41:11that he has a number of warrants does he
  987. 41:13have any schedule today yes so he is
  988. 41:16scheduled to see um Madison Heights as
  989. 41:19well as 48th District Court the 48
  990. 41:22District Court he has um similar uh
  991. 41:25there's also a possession of amphetamine
  992. 41:28out of um 48th District
  993. 41:32Court is he better served by a very low
  994. 41:35cash shity B so I would say no because
  995. 41:39my understanding is that if he well I
  996. 41:41understand what the Court's saying in
  997. 41:42the event that he does get a bond out of
  998. 41:44that Court um right now I don't know his
  999. 41:47financial ability to post any sort of
  1000. 41:49significant Bond so if I could ask Mr
  1001. 41:51Collins if the court were to entertain a
  1002. 41:54low bond is that something that you
  1003. 41:55think you could post
  1004. 41:57um we I spent most of our money because
  1005. 42:01I've been gone for over a year and we
  1006. 42:03have a newborn um I also had to pay for
  1007. 42:05my ankle monitor that's going to be put
  1008. 42:07on in Ohio when I leave here um I I
  1009. 42:11don't want to lie and say I can pay it I
  1010. 42:13don't have any money my fiance has been
  1011. 42:15raising our daughter by herself and
  1012. 42:18working three days a week just to pay
  1013. 42:20the rent you know at the house um Mr
  1014. 42:23Collins what the what the Court's
  1015. 42:24getting at is if you do receive a bond
  1016. 42:26out the other courts um the and then if
  1017. 42:30you receive a personal Bond here if the
  1018. 42:32court were to Grant it then you're not
  1019. 42:33going to earn credit on this case um but
  1020. 42:37you know if the court will if you would
  1021. 42:39still like a personal Bond obviously um
  1022. 42:42we're still going to ask the court for
  1023. 42:43that today okay would be helpful I
  1024. 42:46appreciate both of you red pen doesn't
  1025. 42:49want to be a caboose Ivan was the che be
  1026. 42:51a caboose here thank you both of you
  1027. 42:54with a $100 cash charity or 10% worth
  1028. 42:58uh yes
  1029. 43:00youron thank
  1030. 43:09you one who sees just s these things are
  1031. 43:11not going to clear themselves up
  1032. 43:13overnight it took a while to get them
  1033. 43:16and I don't want
  1034. 43:18to impede your process or your progress
  1035. 43:23either so uh by making this just a very
  1036. 43:28very low bond in the event that you
  1037. 43:30should end up monitors are zero having
  1038. 43:32to spend more time in jail you would get
  1039. 43:34credit for these
  1040. 43:36days those days on these
  1041. 43:39matters thank you 20 bucks a day for an
  1042. 43:42ankle monitor that's the lowest I've
  1043. 43:45ever said so I'm in the wrong
  1044. 43:47business thank we have to get your new
  1045. 43:50address here too yes joh and I've
  1046. 43:53spelled your street name sir it's uh w a
  1047. 43:56g g o n e R is that
  1048. 43:58correct um I believe it's w a n okay did
  1049. 44:04you Google it Sor I did for your I did
  1050. 44:06for your ZIP code it is GG yes then it
  1051. 44:09is street name I thought like wagon here
  1052. 44:13a name that he goes by on the street
  1053. 44:14it's actually the road address name are
  1054. 44:17you able to see
  1055. 44:19that you can read it on my screen this
  1056. 44:22guy sounds like he's turned his life
  1057. 44:23around it's been a year in jail um gone
  1058. 44:26through a that is0 course on um making
  1059. 44:31good decisions cognitive
  1060. 44:36thinking it was it was a street
  1061. 44:38name wrong answers only what's this
  1062. 44:41dude's street
  1063. 44:42name we're doing this on chat Mr Collins
  1064. 44:46so that we're not putting your contact
  1065. 44:49information on YouTube and nether are we
  1066. 44:53you're welcome makes it a little more
  1067. 44:55cumbersome and takes more of your time
  1068. 44:56but I think it's worth
  1069. 44:58it I'm also going to provide that you
  1070. 45:00can remain in Ohio on this Bond thank
  1071. 45:04you I should have asked for that thank
  1072. 45:05you I don't know uh who the dad is but
  1073. 45:08if his his his woman has a newborn he's
  1074. 45:11been gone for over a year Mr Collins the
  1075. 45:13uh fact that you can stay in Ohio
  1076. 45:15doesn't mean that you can miss Court
  1077. 45:16here the next hearing I believe is going
  1078. 45:19to be a zoom I can't tell you beyond
  1079. 45:22that one so could be on a zoom hearing
  1080. 45:25from anywhere
  1081. 45:28G
  1082. 45:29money but in the event that there's an
  1083. 45:32inperson requirement for the for this
  1084. 45:34matter you'd have to come to court
  1085. 45:37physically
  1086. 45:40stash he's wearing it
  1087. 45:43well
  1088. 45:53shady I don't know maybe uh I don't know
  1089. 45:56where's this where I not sure what state
  1090. 45:57we're in which state we're watching
  1091. 45:59Court they maybe they have like
  1092. 46:00cognitive visits and
  1093. 46:03everything um conative Cog a cognitive
  1094. 46:06would be thinking okay conjugal there we
  1095. 46:08go I found the word
  1096. 46:10conjugal thank you missell thank you see
  1097. 46:14you at the next one all right thank you
  1098. 46:17you'll be back that's good day H you
  1099. 46:21too the judge done I'm that you get the
  1100. 46:26change matters
  1101. 46:30to say conal thank you I found it I
  1102. 46:33found it myself I'll have you
  1103. 46:35know he's in Oakland okay we have
  1104. 46:38officer
  1105. 46:40Kevin and we have
  1106. 46:43Mr don't believe that visit involved
  1107. 46:46much
  1108. 46:46thinking oh
  1109. 46:49man you guys are you guys are too harsh
  1110. 46:51on me this morning um this lady really
  1111. 46:55fought for her client who clearly isn't
  1112. 46:56paying her good deal yeah she's probably
  1113. 46:58a public defender so she gets paid the
  1114. 46:59same either way
  1115. 47:04um conjugal you guys yeah street name is
  1116. 47:08not going to
  1117. 47:11math
  1118. 47:14um I I thought his street name should
  1119. 47:16have N9 month in there
  1120. 47:19somewhere just so so he can remember you
  1121. 47:23know the typical gestation period for
  1122. 47:25humans
  1123. 47:28um why did the murderer have an ankle
  1124. 47:30monitor back taking it easy I don't
  1125. 47:32think he's he's a murderer I think he's
  1126. 47:34in a lighter charge than that because
  1127. 47:35he's been in
  1128. 47:40jail some of these I just can't read
  1129. 47:42hang on he's in Royal Oak Michigan okay
  1130. 47:45thank you very much all right so I'm
  1131. 47:48it's sitting here normally this complete
  1132. 47:51I know this is this I'm telling you some
  1133. 47:53technical stuff you don't need but
  1134. 47:54normally the Mac finishes rendering a
  1135. 47:56video at 4 4% like when the mac's always
  1136. 47:59had a problem with progress bars they
  1137. 48:01really have Windows does them really
  1138. 48:02well but Mac um the the progress bar
  1139. 48:05does not really relate directly to to
  1140. 48:08how the progress is going it's just to
  1141. 48:10let you know that there's supposedly
  1142. 48:11progress being made and so normally when
  1143. 48:13it gets to 44% it's actually done in
  1144. 48:16this this particular program because
  1145. 48:18I've edited for years using Final Cut
  1146. 48:19and that's that's the fact we are
  1147. 48:22sitting at 44% right now and it's not
  1148. 48:25done so um
  1149. 48:28it's uh if you want an example of how
  1150. 48:30how this works download a new app from
  1151. 48:33the iPad for the on your iPad or your
  1152. 48:35iPhone on the store and you'll see it
  1153. 48:37like downloading for like it makes a
  1154. 48:39little circle and it works like its way
  1155. 48:41around the p as it fills up um and it
  1156. 48:43gets like about half halfway which is I
  1157. 48:46think about 44% and then it suddenly
  1158. 48:48just jumps the rest of the way and it's
  1159. 48:49done uh that's what's happening right
  1160. 48:51here but it's just not jumping to the
  1161. 48:53done point I'm usually done at 44% just
  1162. 48:57cringe street name Mighty swimmers yes
  1163. 49:00that's it all right please scroll up
  1164. 49:02what did I miss um bite me bite me what
  1165. 49:05did you
  1166. 49:16say there's a lot up here ra scroll up
  1167. 49:19again I missed a couple scroll UPS
  1168. 49:30I don't see
  1169. 49:37it wait wait wait there's one up
  1170. 49:40here I can't scroll too
  1171. 49:51far okay I scrolled up bite me I just
  1172. 49:54don't know what else you want me to see
  1173. 49:56up there cuz I can't see anything it
  1174. 49:59might be easier to resend unless unless
  1175. 50:01there was a super chat I missed I don't
  1176. 50:02didn't see I missed any super
  1177. 50:07chats it's because we're watching it if
  1178. 50:09I like hit it on another screen though I
  1179. 50:12wouldn't know when it's
  1180. 50:17done another chicken bit the dust at the
  1181. 50:20hands of Buttercup
  1182. 50:23ooh a buttercup playing with those birds
  1183. 50:27uh playing a little rough I think is
  1184. 50:28what
  1185. 50:34happened not seeing where that message
  1186. 50:37came
  1187. 50:40through no here we go found it bite me
  1188. 50:43human upset I've been charged with
  1189. 50:44attempted murder I swear it was
  1190. 50:45unintentional I bought brought a toddler
  1191. 50:48chicken into the living room and showed
  1192. 50:49it some love so far she has survived oh
  1193. 50:52so carry gently carry
  1194. 50:55gently butter cup needs an ankle
  1195. 50:57bracelet or POS possibly a muzzle
  1196. 50:59possibly a muzzle in this
  1197. 51:03case and it's Bubba it's a it's not a
  1198. 51:06chicken it's a guinea it's a
  1199. 51:08guinea wouldn't your desktop be faster
  1200. 51:10for rendering uh yes and no actually my
  1201. 51:13my lap laptop has uh more memory and a
  1202. 51:17faster
  1203. 51:18processor and I'm running off a solid
  1204. 51:20state disc so I think it's it's better
  1205. 51:23than my my desktop
  1206. 51:28what are what is buttercup's sweet name
  1207. 51:31street name
  1208. 51:33um something with feathers in
  1209. 51:37it buttercups on
  1210. 51:40probation okay it's done it's done it
  1211. 51:42just finished 44% that was it it was
  1212. 51:44successful even woot woot okay so now we
  1213. 51:48just close down Final
  1214. 51:53Cut open this
  1215. 51:59that was worth waiting for seventh times
  1216. 52:02the
  1217. 52:03charm and it is 13.68%
  1218. 52:23[Music]
  1219. 52:26uh being sentenced on a Case um and
  1220. 52:31also uh less than less than a year
  1221. 52:33usually you're usually a year or less in
  1222. 52:35jail uh prison could be where you you go
  1223. 52:38for multiple years and that's where you
  1224. 52:39serve your time on your case um after
  1225. 52:42your sentenced so there there is some
  1226. 52:44crossover for instance um Sarah Boon
  1227. 52:47even though she's hasn't been sentenced
  1228. 52:49yet and Sarah Boon's the one we're going
  1229. 52:51to watch the video of right now as we as
  1230. 52:53we get ready here right here we're
  1231. 52:54watching the interrogation room that's
  1232. 52:56where it's going to happen um sbon is
  1233. 52:58actually being held by the Florida
  1234. 53:00Department of Corrections and I think
  1235. 53:01it's actually in a prison but it's like
  1236. 53:04on an exchange thing so she's in
  1237. 53:05physically in a prison but it's treated
  1238. 53:07like a jail um so there's a little cross
  1239. 53:09over there does that I'm not sure having
  1240. 53:11never served in either one I have zero
  1241. 53:14time we might need Ivan to call in and
  1242. 53:15explain it a little bit prison is for
  1243. 53:17misdemeanor less than year anything more
  1244. 53:19than 365 is prison here so it's time
  1245. 53:22based basically so Sarah's been in for
  1246. 53:25three years
  1247. 53:28only less than a year if you're not in
  1248. 53:29ATL watching Law law talk with Mike and
  1249. 53:32there are a lot of people in jail for
  1250. 53:33over a year waiting arraignment I I hate
  1251. 53:36that Edy I really do I it it should you
  1252. 53:40should not be sitting there waiting to
  1253. 53:42be charged Wai need to be arraigned uh
  1254. 53:44for for that long I think the process
  1255. 53:46needs to be faster and if we can't get
  1256. 53:47it done faster we need to let them out
  1257. 53:49um incentivize it you know if if the
  1258. 53:52people object to to all the the people
  1259. 53:54who've been arrested uh being let out of
  1260. 53:56jail maybe they'll they'll pay more in
  1261. 53:58taxes to to pay more for more judges or
  1262. 54:00or or more police or whatever they need
  1263. 54:02to do to speed up that process but I
  1264. 54:04hate people sitting in jail with with no
  1265. 54:06court date no
  1266. 54:08progress um new trial starts tomorrow
  1267. 54:10we're going to start the uh the cbon
  1268. 54:13interview though right
  1269. 54:15now let's see let me see there it
  1270. 54:22is we're just setting up the interview
  1271. 54:25room now where's my
  1272. 54:27audio there it
  1273. 54:29is that's going to be Sarah's chair in
  1274. 54:32the
  1275. 54:42corner yeah Ian I'm a big fan here her
  1276. 54:46big mistake here is she brought a laptop
  1277. 54:47without a charger and it's going to run
  1278. 54:49out of battery um Mid
  1279. 54:53interview Sarah's bring invited in right
  1280. 54:56now she's not in custody she showed up
  1281. 54:58on her own they just asked her to come
  1282. 54:59down and talk at the police station and
  1283. 55:01she showed up this I believe is the day
  1284. 55:02after or possibly two days after so it's
  1285. 55:05either Monday or Tuesday because I
  1286. 55:07believe the it happened over the weekend
  1287. 55:10with
  1288. 55:13George uh yes the uh the female there
  1289. 55:16she's got a bit of a cough and we're
  1290. 55:17going to hear that a bit it
  1291. 55:23happens let me change the sounds to so I
  1292. 55:26can edit that out let's make it go
  1293. 55:29through
  1294. 55:32here there's our first cough as a
  1295. 55:52warning okay very very carefully
  1296. 55:55meticulously set Up Room by the
  1297. 55:58way right above my head on the left you
  1298. 56:00can see a little what looks like a
  1299. 56:01switch with the black box in the middle
  1300. 56:03that's actually the other camera angle
  1301. 56:04as soon as Sarah comes in let's do the
  1302. 56:07Cofe counter we're up on we're up on two
  1303. 56:09already right I'll set this up
  1304. 56:39okay cough counters to two and it's
  1305. 56:41going to be anyone who coughs not just
  1306. 56:42the female
  1307. 56:45detective let me get this
  1308. 56:47[Music]
  1309. 56:48set hang on ke me got it up that's going
  1310. 56:51to be three that's going to be even
  1311. 56:52though it's like a that's going to be a
  1312. 56:54single cough if that's all right
  1313. 56:57just like unless there's a breath
  1314. 57:00between them it's not going to be a
  1315. 57:02different
  1316. 57:16cough
  1317. 57:20one fun hey can you do me a faay if
  1318. 57:22you're not busy tomorrow are you here
  1319. 57:24tomorrow you mind just check in my dra
  1320. 57:27and put on my desk if you get a minute
  1321. 57:29just on the
  1322. 57:34top have a good
  1323. 57:36day good
  1324. 57:38night is that good enough right down
  1325. 57:44here we do have standards we have to we
  1326. 57:47have to set the
  1327. 57:53rules American Girl we're watching um
  1328. 57:56we're going to be watching the sbon
  1329. 57:57interrogation the interview which she
  1330. 58:00willingly came down to the police
  1331. 58:01station and participated in um not
  1332. 58:03knowing that that that would be her last
  1333. 58:05day of Freedom she's been in custody
  1334. 58:06since this day as a matter of fact her
  1335. 58:08jail pal booking photo is wearing the
  1336. 58:10shirt that she's going to be wearing in
  1337. 58:11this
  1338. 58:12interview um so if you look on the
  1339. 58:14thumbnail that gray shirt she has that's
  1340. 58:16that's what she's wearing here this day
  1341. 58:17when she shows up um I have requested
  1342. 58:20from the Orange County Sheriff's
  1343. 58:21department and finally received both
  1344. 58:23camera angles for the entire
  1345. 58:25interrogation
  1346. 58:26the entire thing oh there's another
  1347. 58:32one and we we have a little click sound
  1348. 58:34so it goes
  1349. 58:35like so you'll know when I clicked
  1350. 58:41it anyway I requested both videos and I
  1351. 58:44I put them together so you can you can
  1352. 58:46see yes we need some water apparently um
  1353. 58:49I put them together so you'll be able to
  1354. 58:50see her face throughout the the whole
  1355. 58:52thing she's going to be in the top
  1356. 58:53leftand corner and then we're going to
  1357. 58:54be watching the main top down view as
  1358. 58:57well so we can see better her reactions
  1359. 58:58to some of the questions um as as as
  1360. 59:02this interview goes on
  1361. 59:04but they're about ready to come in
  1362. 59:07now just let us
  1363. 59:09know okay I'm going to have you fit the
  1364. 59:13green chair that doesn't move the green
  1365. 59:17chair that doesn't
  1366. 59:19move appreciate you coming in yes ma'am
  1367. 59:23and I I want to ask you about these
  1368. 59:25whenever we have a moment sure um so
  1369. 59:30obviously um he received his autopsy so
  1370. 59:34I'm going to read you your rights again
  1371. 59:36because I we have to talk about that and
  1372. 59:38since I'm talking about the incident we
  1373. 59:41just have to do it just like we did
  1374. 59:42yesterday just like we did yesterday
  1375. 59:44remember I read you the rights your
  1376. 59:45right yeah so this the exact same thing
  1377. 59:47but since I'm asking you follow-up
  1378. 59:48questions I need to read them to you
  1379. 59:50okay all right so you have the right to
  1380. 59:53remain silent anything you say may be
  1381. 59:55used against you in court you have the
  1382. 59:57right to talk to a lawyer before and
  1383. 59:58during questioning without charge if you
  1384. 1:00:00cannot afford a lawyer and want one one
  1385. 1:00:02can be provided for you before
  1386. 1:00:03questioning without charge has anyone
  1387. 1:00:05threatened you or promised you anything
  1388. 1:00:06to get you to talk to me no and do you
  1389. 1:00:08understand what I just read you yes
  1390. 1:00:09perfect okay so this morning we went to
  1391. 1:00:13his a child tream um and we were
  1392. 1:00:18informed of some injuries that he has um
  1393. 1:00:22by the doctor so I want
  1394. 1:00:26um so he's
  1395. 1:00:28got scratch marks to his
  1396. 1:00:31back I know what that's from okay and um
  1397. 1:00:36it's called a contusion do you know what
  1398. 1:00:37a contusion is so like basically you're
  1399. 1:00:39getting hit and then you know you you
  1400. 1:00:42get a mark from it you'll get bruising
  1401. 1:00:45like some someone hate you or something
  1402. 1:00:46like that it's called a a contusion so
  1403. 1:00:49he had some injuries to his left
  1404. 1:00:51shoulder um he
  1405. 1:00:54had um he had a cut near his like lip we
  1406. 1:00:57could see we could see his um his mouth
  1407. 1:01:00was a little I haven't hand on him okay
  1408. 1:01:04I also too I he fell off my son's bike
  1409. 1:01:08okay so I don't know and he's notorious
  1410. 1:01:10for running into the wall or the hall
  1411. 1:01:12tree lot okay what what about the
  1412. 1:01:18scratches CU there's also sex sex yes
  1413. 1:01:22okay cuz there's also like a like a
  1414. 1:01:25scratch on like the back of his neck
  1415. 1:01:27like kind of like going but it's like
  1416. 1:01:29going straight
  1417. 1:01:30across I have no idea what that's from
  1418. 1:01:33and they're all recent like they they
  1419. 1:01:35they occurred recently it wasn't
  1420. 1:01:37something that occurred post or that
  1421. 1:01:39occurred a week ago or two days ago 3
  1422. 1:01:40days ago they definitely occurred you
  1423. 1:01:42know the night leading up to when he was
  1424. 1:01:45in all honesty all honesty we have not
  1425. 1:01:47gotten into it okay that's why like the
  1426. 1:01:51only thing I thought you guys were going
  1427. 1:01:52to ask me about which I was going to be
  1428. 1:01:53honest with you anyway I just scratched
  1429. 1:01:55marks when his back mhm everything else
  1430. 1:01:57I have no idea what it is no idea what
  1431. 1:02:01it is nonetheless I've had my son over
  1432. 1:02:03at the house too so nonetheless well
  1433. 1:02:05your son was there when when was he last
  1434. 1:02:08there oh gosh for my understanding he
  1435. 1:02:11was there like last Tuesday last I don't
  1436. 1:02:13know if it was
  1437. 1:02:15Tuesday but yes he was there last week
  1438. 1:02:17so well we're talking about Sunday yeah
  1439. 1:02:20we're we're just talking about what
  1440. 1:02:21occurred Sunday cuz like I said the
  1441. 1:02:23injuries
  1442. 1:02:24are they occurred within that time
  1443. 1:02:27period so you're talking about day
  1444. 1:02:28before yesterday Sunday leading into
  1445. 1:02:32Monday at 1 so but the incident you guys
  1446. 1:02:35were painting and stuff the night prior
  1447. 1:02:37correct so we're talking about Sunday
  1448. 1:02:40and thoroughly confused because we had a
  1449. 1:02:44good time sitting on the back porch
  1450. 1:02:47having wine and smoking a couple of
  1451. 1:02:49cigarettes and then decided to go inside
  1452. 1:02:50and literally paint do puzzles and play
  1453. 1:02:55and listen to music that's
  1454. 1:02:57why nobody got out of source that this
  1455. 1:03:00is what's mindblowing to me like I don't
  1456. 1:03:04I have no clue nobody laid a hand on
  1457. 1:03:06anybody he also had um like on the left
  1458. 1:03:11side of his forehead he had basically
  1459. 1:03:14bruising um and um on like his head in
  1460. 1:03:19his skull I have no idea as if something
  1461. 1:03:22hit him consider touched him
  1462. 1:03:27I have not touched him I have not
  1463. 1:03:29touched him then how would he get those
  1464. 1:03:31injured tell me and we'll both
  1465. 1:03:33know I have not touched him yesterday
  1466. 1:03:37when we took photographs of your overall
  1467. 1:03:40body um and they did the bule swabs did
  1468. 1:03:42they go under your fingernails no okay
  1469. 1:03:45are you willing to let us absolutely
  1470. 1:03:47swab underneath your fingernails go for
  1471. 1:03:50it okay I have no idea and I don't want
  1472. 1:03:54to seem out of sorts but
  1473. 1:03:56I have no idea we had a good day MH it
  1474. 1:04:00was a good day we've had good days
  1475. 1:04:03lately even considering everything
  1476. 1:04:04that's going on with our jobs and life
  1477. 1:04:06in general and Ex-Wives and everything
  1478. 1:04:09it's been good like I don't even know
  1479. 1:04:11where this is coming
  1480. 1:04:13from yeah the last physical was probably
  1481. 1:04:16you said I think what a month ago where
  1482. 1:04:19you got the injury right you said that
  1483. 1:04:22was a few weeks give or take yeah a few
  1484. 1:04:25weeks that was the last like physical
  1485. 1:04:26altercation between the two of you um he
  1486. 1:04:30said a month ago he hit you with a
  1487. 1:04:31curtain rod yeah with a curtain rod
  1488. 1:04:33that's why I can't believe you guys
  1489. 1:04:34didn't take that
  1490. 1:04:37either like we've been good I don't know
  1491. 1:04:40if like since the last time he got out
  1492. 1:04:42of jail like we've been good and he's
  1493. 1:04:45been having his classes and his seeing
  1494. 1:04:48his probation officer who's amazing so
  1495. 1:04:51what do you mean by good what's your
  1496. 1:04:53definition of good the sir oh no you
  1497. 1:04:56said you guys have been good what's your
  1498. 1:04:58definition I've been good I don't think
  1499. 1:05:00you all understand he comes at me all
  1500. 1:05:02the time he comes at me so it's either I
  1501. 1:05:07flee or try to go upstairs and go to
  1502. 1:05:09sleep that's usually what it is and I
  1503. 1:05:11don't know if you talk to Brian about
  1504. 1:05:13any of that but most of the time when I
  1505. 1:05:14flee I go over there so Brian's the
  1506. 1:05:19right but you're saying that you guys
  1507. 1:05:19have been good and when I asked you
  1508. 1:05:21yesterday there hasn't the last incident
  1509. 1:05:24that you could remember was the curtain
  1510. 1:05:25ride incident which he said was a month
  1511. 1:05:27ago so give or take right so what do you
  1512. 1:05:30mean by he comes after you like he
  1513. 1:05:33gets belligerently drunk like I don't
  1514. 1:05:36know if you all have looked through my
  1515. 1:05:37phone yet and seen any of the pictures
  1516. 1:05:39and the videos that I have taken and
  1517. 1:05:42that'll come back L at one point I
  1518. 1:05:45started documenting everything okay so
  1519. 1:05:47you all will see in my
  1520. 1:05:49pictures bloody fingers split foreheads
  1521. 1:05:53he split my nose I've got about this
  1522. 1:05:56right I don't know Brian told you about
  1523. 1:05:58it where I had to have almost what I had
  1524. 1:06:00one really bad surgery but then it got
  1525. 1:06:02really really really really bad where I
  1526. 1:06:03had to go like four or five more times
  1527. 1:06:05afterwards for them to tend to it from
  1528. 1:06:07him poking me in the back of the leg
  1529. 1:06:09right so it's then why are you still
  1530. 1:06:12with him everybody asks me that when I
  1531. 1:06:14tell you guys
  1532. 1:06:17this I really love him like I do and I
  1533. 1:06:21feel like I can help him like I feel
  1534. 1:06:24like I could help him which did because
  1535. 1:06:26he's come a really he came a really long
  1536. 1:06:28way from where he was in Philadelphia to
  1537. 1:06:31moving back to here to dealing with
  1538. 1:06:33everything else that he's been dealing
  1539. 1:06:34with MH I've really helped him I bailed
  1540. 1:06:37him out of jail what three times I've go
  1541. 1:06:40to every single hearing and every single
  1542. 1:06:42arraignment everything that I did for
  1543. 1:06:43him gone to see all his public defenders
  1544. 1:06:46go to the state I've gone to the state I
  1545. 1:06:48I did everything for him because I'm
  1546. 1:06:50trying to help him because I have I had
  1547. 1:06:52hope in him and he was trying he was
  1548. 1:06:56really
  1549. 1:06:57trying just and then he starts to think
  1550. 1:06:59about things and it just I think he gets
  1551. 1:07:01overwhelmed and then it's like the next
  1552. 1:07:03thing I know he's drinking so it's like
  1553. 1:07:05oh man I know where this is going to go
  1554. 1:07:08so I'm going to go upstairs and read a
  1555. 1:07:10book or I'm going to go for a bike ride
  1556. 1:07:12or I'm going to do something else where
  1557. 1:07:13I don't want to drink I don't want to
  1558. 1:07:16drink the occasional wine whatever or if
  1559. 1:07:20it's a weekend that's when you you have
  1560. 1:07:23a good time you don't have to wake up
  1561. 1:07:25the next day
  1562. 1:07:26I have to wake up the next day and do
  1563. 1:07:27things I have to tend to Lucas I have to
  1564. 1:07:29take him to school I have all this stuff
  1565. 1:07:30to do he doesn't know how
  1566. 1:07:34to I guess maintain himself where I can
  1567. 1:07:39do 50 things at once and still know the
  1568. 1:07:4250 things more previously prior that I
  1569. 1:07:45need to get done he can't process like
  1570. 1:07:47that he didn't process like that so it
  1571. 1:07:49he would literally not literally but had
  1572. 1:07:51smoke coming out of his ears so the next
  1573. 1:07:53thing you know he doesn't want to deal
  1574. 1:07:54with it
  1575. 1:07:56I'm going to go get something to drink
  1576. 1:07:57so the majority of the time I would hang
  1577. 1:07:59out outside or do something else because
  1578. 1:08:02I don't want to
  1579. 1:08:04drink and every time every time his job
  1580. 1:08:09broke his heart and it made me sad
  1581. 1:08:11because he had so much pride in his job
  1582. 1:08:14and the store that he took care of so
  1583. 1:08:16much totally went downhill and that took
  1584. 1:08:20care of it heart because he had put so
  1585. 1:08:23much work and effort into fixing it up
  1586. 1:08:25and his manager was
  1587. 1:08:29awful and basically gave up on all of
  1588. 1:08:31the employees so I think that had a huge
  1589. 1:08:35bearing on why he would drink so much
  1590. 1:08:38his ex-wife is Bonkers she was all over
  1591. 1:08:42him all the time send me money send me
  1592. 1:08:45money send me
  1593. 1:08:47money how can I send you money when I
  1594. 1:08:49don't have a job and he's still trying
  1595. 1:08:51to take care of me and Lucas by paying a
  1596. 1:08:54bill here there getting some groceries
  1597. 1:08:57so he always had something on his mind
  1598. 1:09:00which is why again I got the buttles and
  1599. 1:09:03the Bain to try to get him off of it so
  1600. 1:09:06we don't have a drink or he doesn't have
  1601. 1:09:08a drink so when you all see my phone you
  1602. 1:09:11can see all of the damage he has done to
  1603. 1:09:14me and the videos of him smashing my
  1604. 1:09:17television because he's belligerently
  1605. 1:09:20drunk well most of the time I just don't
  1606. 1:09:22want to be there and I try to help him I
  1607. 1:09:25try to calm him
  1608. 1:09:26down eventually he just passes
  1609. 1:09:30out well yesterday it made it sound like
  1610. 1:09:32you guys were just drinking like a glass
  1611. 1:09:34or two like yeah you obviously had the
  1612. 1:09:37bottle but you I mean you told me on the
  1613. 1:09:40yeah but you told me on recording like
  1614. 1:09:41that you were not drunk he was not drunk
  1615. 1:09:43you guys were having a good time I don't
  1616. 1:09:45get I can't get drunk number one I do
  1617. 1:09:49not want to get drunk I don't like being
  1618. 1:09:53non-c complish menst having my wits
  1619. 1:09:54about my I don't like feeling out of
  1620. 1:09:56control
  1621. 1:09:58mhm so I'm just saying you're you're
  1622. 1:10:01making it sound like like he's aaging
  1623. 1:10:03alcoholic today and yesterday I was kind
  1624. 1:10:06of asking you those questions and you're
  1625. 1:10:07like a little defensive like no we're
  1626. 1:10:10not alcoholics the he we are not you
  1627. 1:10:13know but you guys were both sober on
  1628. 1:10:16Sunday to your knowledge because when I
  1629. 1:10:18said you went and passed out you were
  1630. 1:10:20like no I didn't pass out I just fell
  1631. 1:10:22asleep so now it's kind of like what is
  1632. 1:10:25it is were you guys drinking and it got
  1633. 1:10:27out of hand and no it got physical or is
  1634. 1:10:31it Sunday was one of the better days
  1635. 1:10:34that we have had in quite some time he's
  1636. 1:10:37dancing with my dog you can see that too
  1637. 1:10:39on the pictures him loving the dog he
  1638. 1:10:42loves the dog and dancing around having
  1639. 1:10:45a good time and
  1640. 1:10:47just just being happy kind of
  1641. 1:10:51thing he doesn't know I can't I mean I
  1642. 1:10:56can get like maybe two three glasses of
  1643. 1:10:59wine and I'll be fine but I have to have
  1644. 1:11:01my wits about myself because I don't
  1645. 1:11:03know what to expect well let's talk
  1646. 1:11:04about Sunday what was Sunday how were
  1647. 1:11:06you like how many glasses of wine did
  1648. 1:11:08you have how many glasses of wine did he
  1649. 1:11:09have the bottle was gone I mean I don't
  1650. 1:11:12know if you poured any out yes no that
  1651. 1:11:14was from previous you said that there
  1652. 1:11:17was a half bottle left over mhm and then
  1653. 1:11:21um that you had went well I don't even
  1654. 1:11:24know how the wine how' you guys get the
  1655. 1:11:26wine for Sunday I'm guessing he went to
  1656. 1:11:30Publix he's does he do the does he like
  1657. 1:11:33leave the house and you stay home or do
  1658. 1:11:35you go to Publix like CU sometimes I'll
  1659. 1:11:37go with him okay did you go with him
  1660. 1:11:38Sunday to Publix so most of the time
  1661. 1:11:41what happens is because the convenience
  1662. 1:11:44store where we get cigarettes is here
  1663. 1:11:45and then Public's literally is catting
  1664. 1:11:47walk is to it okay so what he'll do is
  1665. 1:11:49he'll start go by Publix and then on the
  1666. 1:11:51way back catch the convenience store mhm
  1667. 1:11:55is that what he did Sunday I'm guessing
  1668. 1:11:57that's what he did because the next
  1669. 1:11:58thing I know he's walking in with a
  1670. 1:11:59bottle okay so
  1671. 1:12:02that's it's him trying to be nice so I
  1672. 1:12:04don't have to go out and do it plus
  1673. 1:12:06there's stuff that I around the house
  1674. 1:12:07that I had to take care of so that's
  1675. 1:12:09usually what will happen or I'm folding
  1676. 1:12:10laundry and he'll go run out and do
  1677. 1:12:12whatever okay so wher were you guys are
  1678. 1:12:18on on drunkenness not drunkenness on
  1679. 1:12:23Sunday you told us weren't drunk no I
  1680. 1:12:26was not drunk I was not drunk so with
  1681. 1:12:29him I don't
  1682. 1:12:31know I I know when it's like okay man
  1683. 1:12:35where I have told him slow down it's
  1684. 1:12:38starting to catch up with you slow down
  1685. 1:12:41slow down and another thing too is I
  1686. 1:12:43don't like listening to music with him
  1687. 1:12:46because he gets too involved in the
  1688. 1:12:48music and the music that he listens to
  1689. 1:12:50is a little rust on the edges and like
  1690. 1:12:53just it makes me fractious listening to
  1691. 1:12:56his music so I kept asking them let's
  1692. 1:12:59not let's just you and me talk you and
  1693. 1:13:02me will just be the ones that are
  1694. 1:13:03talking which was fine cuz I mean he we
  1695. 1:13:05were playing with a dog whatever and
  1696. 1:13:06then it's like okay now let's do the
  1697. 1:13:09painting we just did the puzzle took a
  1698. 1:13:11break now let's do this sure enough sat
  1699. 1:13:14down we're sitting in there talking
  1700. 1:13:16laughing talking about new movies we're
  1701. 1:13:18watching movie
  1702. 1:13:20trailers while we're doing painting and
  1703. 1:13:23all that other stuff so it's still
  1704. 1:13:24background noise to him because I think
  1705. 1:13:26that's what he's used to is having
  1706. 1:13:27background noise where me I can sit in
  1707. 1:13:29here all day with not a peep but he
  1708. 1:13:32always has to have some kind of
  1709. 1:13:33background noise which I didn't mind
  1710. 1:13:34because the trailers were cool and he
  1711. 1:13:36was interested in showing them to me
  1712. 1:13:38getting excited about movies that were
  1713. 1:13:40out or upcoming okay on your laptop
  1714. 1:13:44you're talking about okay and I mean and
  1715. 1:13:46then it we it was you said it was a good
  1716. 1:13:49day like you guys didn't have any have
  1717. 1:13:52any uh conversations about your
  1718. 1:13:53relationship you guys didn't go down
  1719. 1:13:55like the rabbit hole like had too many
  1720. 1:13:57to drink and you guys start getting no
  1721. 1:14:00when I tell you this it made me so happy
  1722. 1:14:03that he actually listened to what I I
  1723. 1:14:05had to say with just we'll get through
  1724. 1:14:09it this will be fine it's just it's it's
  1725. 1:14:12a small hurdle that you and I together
  1726. 1:14:14will get through because I'm talking
  1727. 1:14:17about the money
  1728. 1:14:19jobs yes nothing relationship wise
  1729. 1:14:22though like no issues relation like did
  1730. 1:14:25you guys have a conversation about your
  1731. 1:14:26relationship or was it just about just
  1732. 1:14:29what's going on right now I try to evoke
  1733. 1:14:32it from him
  1734. 1:14:33so he gets it off his chest because I
  1735. 1:14:36call him the volcano where eventually
  1736. 1:14:39he's going to erupt right and what he
  1737. 1:14:41has learned in his classes is to
  1738. 1:14:43communicate which is a huge thing in a
  1739. 1:14:46relationship where he has been
  1740. 1:14:48practicing communication so he actually
  1741. 1:14:51talks to me about things and unburdens
  1742. 1:14:53himself put it on me I'll sit there and
  1743. 1:14:56try and figure it out for you like I
  1744. 1:14:58have almost everything mhm not a worry
  1745. 1:15:01just tell me get it out of you right but
  1746. 1:15:04it was when I tell you I was so happy
  1747. 1:15:07like it was such a good day I kid you
  1748. 1:15:09not the weather was beautiful outside
  1749. 1:15:12I'm the one that had him go inside so we
  1750. 1:15:14can do puzzles and painting listen to
  1751. 1:15:16music or whatever else he wants to do so
  1752. 1:15:19then he starts doing whatever it is
  1753. 1:15:20we're doing together in the living room
  1754. 1:15:24and then start talking because I think
  1755. 1:15:26he gets comfortable with okay you know
  1756. 1:15:29what we're here it is a good day let me
  1757. 1:15:31go ahead and explain myself so I know
  1758. 1:15:34nobody else knows but I
  1759. 1:15:36know nobody knew George better than I
  1760. 1:15:39did I say that I knew George better than
  1761. 1:15:42himself and I tried in every way shape
  1762. 1:15:46and form ask
  1763. 1:15:49everyone I helped him I took care of him
  1764. 1:15:56I miss him a lot and I didn't even sleep
  1765. 1:15:58last
  1766. 1:16:00night I miss him a
  1767. 1:16:02lot I mean is there any chance it got to
  1768. 1:16:04be too much for you and you couldn't
  1769. 1:16:06handle taking care of him and I never
  1770. 1:16:09stopped trying to I never
  1771. 1:16:12stopped that's what I'm here
  1772. 1:16:15for I never stopped I'm here now again
  1773. 1:16:19I'm still trying to help him yeah we
  1774. 1:16:22just don't I mean it's unexplainable how
  1775. 1:16:25he got these injuries and I have no idea
  1776. 1:16:28you were the only one with him 100%
  1777. 1:16:31right hand to God I have no idea how he
  1778. 1:16:34got them nobody touched anybody nobody
  1779. 1:16:39touched
  1780. 1:16:41anybody okay um you had mentioned that
  1781. 1:16:45you take uh you would take photos videos
  1782. 1:16:49just kind of like a proof and just in
  1783. 1:16:51general yeah I started documenting at
  1784. 1:16:52one point but that was
  1785. 1:16:55that was way before I think the last
  1786. 1:16:58time that he got arrested where he was
  1787. 1:17:00flying off the deep end okay but then I
  1788. 1:17:04had him bailed out I got him out of jail
  1789. 1:17:06right but because he had violated the
  1790. 1:17:09pre-trial
  1791. 1:17:10diversion they this time it's probation
  1792. 1:17:13so you don't have a choice in it you
  1793. 1:17:15have to go to see your probation officer
  1794. 1:17:17you have to go to these classes it's
  1795. 1:17:19court ordered MH where it took him a
  1796. 1:17:21while to get used to it and understand
  1797. 1:17:25not Ming around I even went down and met
  1798. 1:17:27his uh probation officer which I say I
  1799. 1:17:30she's she's wonderful that's one of my
  1800. 1:17:32questions to any to talk to about hugged
  1801. 1:17:34me and said how much she knows that I
  1802. 1:17:37take care of him she called me
  1803. 1:17:38personally one time when George was at
  1804. 1:17:40work when he was working 42 minute phone
  1805. 1:17:43call she and I just saying how grateful
  1806. 1:17:46she is that George has me and she knows
  1807. 1:17:49how hard I'm working to help him just as
  1808. 1:17:52she is and just as the classes will
  1809. 1:17:56once he started actually going on a
  1810. 1:17:57regular basis to the probation officer
  1811. 1:18:00and then to his sub to's class and his I
  1812. 1:18:04don't know what VIP stands for betters
  1813. 1:18:06Intervention Program and actually
  1814. 1:18:08listening to what it is everyone had to
  1815. 1:18:10say he changed like I could I could see
  1816. 1:18:13a change in him where before lashing out
  1817. 1:18:16he would think about
  1818. 1:18:17it and would always come home and show
  1819. 1:18:20me his papers and we would look over his
  1820. 1:18:21papers together or it's like wow you
  1821. 1:18:24actually learning this in class and some
  1822. 1:18:26of the stuff that they would show them
  1823. 1:18:28like videos he would come home and be
  1824. 1:18:30like Sarah I'm so sorry for what I've
  1825. 1:18:32done to you because or a video that he
  1826. 1:18:35watches to make him feel that way where
  1827. 1:18:39it's like oh
  1828. 1:18:41man I have done her
  1829. 1:18:44wrong but he's changed he
  1830. 1:18:48changed and that's why you're still with
  1831. 1:18:50him even though he's done all these
  1832. 1:18:51things to you and when I tell you I love
  1833. 1:18:54him I love
  1834. 1:18:57them even when you have when you love
  1835. 1:19:00somebody you have limits everybody tells
  1836. 1:19:03me that all my neighbors don't tell me
  1837. 1:19:05that the office property
  1838. 1:19:07manager at some point
  1839. 1:19:10somebody gets enough then they have to
  1840. 1:19:12to do something to defend
  1841. 1:19:14themselves I would just flee and I don't
  1842. 1:19:17know if you would like to see on my
  1843. 1:19:20phone or I think it's I think it's
  1844. 1:19:21actually on a laptop I actually because
  1845. 1:19:24and you have to understand too I have
  1846. 1:19:27like prior to classes in
  1847. 1:19:30po Ked him out how many times I had him
  1848. 1:19:34arrested how many times but you also
  1849. 1:19:36went down and bailed I know the next day
  1850. 1:19:40I know what's on your
  1851. 1:19:42laptop um what was I going to tell
  1852. 1:19:45you oh what's on your laptop previously
  1853. 1:19:48mhm change subjects I actually looked up
  1854. 1:19:51how to file a restraining order oh okay
  1855. 1:19:54because I Tak him out his parents
  1856. 1:19:56because of them constantly having to
  1857. 1:19:59take him back in his bags of clothes all
  1858. 1:20:03his stuff the one time the last time the
  1859. 1:20:06father came out and I rate and just not
  1860. 1:20:10even I think I don't even know if he
  1861. 1:20:11knew Lucas was in the car just opened
  1862. 1:20:14the back of my car and just started
  1863. 1:20:15throwing all his crap and just throwing
  1864. 1:20:16it like throwing it like the car would J
  1865. 1:20:19he was throwing all this stuff at that
  1866. 1:20:21point because I continually did it not
  1867. 1:20:24continually I think I maybe did it three
  1868. 1:20:25times and he has nowhere else to go they
  1869. 1:20:28got fed up and said nope either you're
  1870. 1:20:31staying there or you're staying here but
  1871. 1:20:32if you're staying here at their place
  1872. 1:20:35it's permanent you're not going back
  1873. 1:20:37over there anymore so what happens is he
  1874. 1:20:40pursues me so I don't know if you all
  1875. 1:20:43know where Katy way Trail is okay so we
  1876. 1:20:46it's literally right right there from
  1877. 1:20:49our apartment mhm would ride his bike to
  1878. 1:20:53work but before he would leave extra
  1879. 1:20:55early and come up to the wall stand on
  1880. 1:20:57top of his bike and poke his head over
  1881. 1:20:59cuz he would know that I would be
  1882. 1:21:00outside having my morning cigarette and
  1883. 1:21:03cup of coffee where and I would also
  1884. 1:21:06know too what time he would get off of
  1885. 1:21:07work where I would know come getting off
  1886. 1:21:10of work he's going to do the same thing
  1887. 1:21:12so it's not like I ever got like a break
  1888. 1:21:15from him where I told you all yesterday
  1889. 1:21:17or whenever it was I started to feel
  1890. 1:21:19that it was too much togetherness and
  1891. 1:21:22when you have too much togetherness
  1892. 1:21:24friction happens so I'm going to go ride
  1893. 1:21:27my bike I'm going to go upstairs and
  1894. 1:21:28read a book but what he every what does
  1895. 1:21:31he say every waking moment he wants to
  1896. 1:21:33be with me so and mind you our town home
  1897. 1:21:37is either upstairs or downstairs so it's
  1898. 1:21:40like if you would like to sit downstairs
  1899. 1:21:42and watch a movie or play on the laptop
  1900. 1:21:45look up some jobs you're more than
  1901. 1:21:46welcome to I'm just going to be upstairs
  1902. 1:21:48maybe watching one of my shows or maybe
  1903. 1:21:50reading the book so and then when that
  1904. 1:21:52would happen
  1905. 1:21:56we really needed that so what's for
  1906. 1:21:57dinner and then we would cook together
  1907. 1:22:00and eat dinner and then crawl on the bed
  1908. 1:22:02and watch the
  1909. 1:22:03movie you're talking about this is like
  1910. 1:22:05recent I you kind of like lost me like
  1911. 1:22:07when what you it was a while like a
  1912. 1:22:09little while ago but now you're talking
  1913. 1:22:10about now you're talking about tension
  1914. 1:22:12building up and that you need space so
  1915. 1:22:15have you been feeling that way lately or
  1916. 1:22:17no okay
  1917. 1:22:20no okay my thing is too so you all know
  1918. 1:22:23oh I hate you can't talk to her but um
  1919. 1:22:27the his ex-wife when I say a monster
  1920. 1:22:30she's a monster like it does she
  1921. 1:22:32withholds her their children from
  1922. 1:22:35speaking to him so he gets upset about
  1923. 1:22:39that and then she like completely Beres
  1924. 1:22:41him about money about the father that he
  1925. 1:22:44is what he did to her all this other
  1926. 1:22:46stuff it doesn't matter I mean mind you
  1927. 1:22:49this has not like been recent but which
  1928. 1:22:52is why he doesn't even bother calling
  1929. 1:22:53anymore because he knows if she's going
  1930. 1:22:55to answer and he's going to have to talk
  1931. 1:22:56to her so therefore he can't talk to his
  1932. 1:22:58daughter the other time he talked to her
  1933. 1:23:01M made her talk to cookie that's on my
  1934. 1:23:04cell phone too so you can see it okay it
  1935. 1:23:07doesn't matter like it doesn't
  1936. 1:23:11matter what does she have to do though
  1937. 1:23:13with anything about what happened Sunday
  1938. 1:23:15and into Monday like no I'm just saying
  1939. 1:23:17like previously why the incident what
  1940. 1:23:21happen is she plays a big part in it
  1941. 1:23:24okay
  1942. 1:23:25job and money and groceries and all that
  1943. 1:23:28okay Sunday I when I tell you this I
  1944. 1:23:32have no idea I have no idea is there
  1945. 1:23:36anybody else at the house just me and
  1946. 1:23:40him
  1947. 1:23:42um since talking yesterday do you
  1948. 1:23:45remember any like time timelines better
  1949. 1:23:48like what
  1950. 1:23:49time uh you guys were playing what time
  1951. 1:23:51you he was zipped up in the L AG what
  1952. 1:23:55time you went upstairs we started
  1953. 1:23:57because we had we cleaned the house a
  1954. 1:23:59little bit did some laundry you started
  1955. 1:24:01the activities around four you said yes
  1956. 1:24:03around 4 4:30ish and then you just said
  1957. 1:24:06that it was dark when you were playing
  1958. 1:24:07hide and seek and I'm just curious if
  1959. 1:24:09you remember but when we were outside
  1960. 1:24:11that's where we would start and talk
  1961. 1:24:13about things and then eventually I was
  1962. 1:24:15the one that had him come inside so we
  1963. 1:24:17could what time do you remember what
  1964. 1:24:19time that was is what she's
  1965. 1:24:22asking I just said went up you went up
  1966. 1:24:25to bed around midnight Midnight fell
  1967. 1:24:27asleep around
  1968. 1:24:2912:30ish but those are the only times I
  1969. 1:24:31have so I have four and I have midnight
  1970. 1:24:33so there's a big gap so I'm just curious
  1971. 1:24:36like if you recall when you went
  1972. 1:24:38upstairs to hide in the shower or like
  1973. 1:24:41when we started to play hide and seek
  1974. 1:24:44yeah well we went inside probably about
  1975. 1:24:49I had to gu we w we weren't out there
  1976. 1:24:50too long maybe about 6ish
  1977. 1:24:54then J up from hang out outside and like
  1978. 1:24:57okay well we have two beach chairs that
  1979. 1:24:59are out there right just enjoy the
  1980. 1:25:01weather gotta plus it started to get
  1981. 1:25:03dark and mats and mosquitoes yeah so
  1982. 1:25:07let's go inside I don't want to be out
  1983. 1:25:08here anymore okay all right let's go so
  1984. 1:25:11we're doing whatever we did it for a
  1985. 1:25:12while because that puzzle I don't know
  1986. 1:25:14if they took it or they saw it um worked
  1987. 1:25:17on the puzzle again finished it started
  1988. 1:25:20to paint well started listen to music
  1989. 1:25:22for a little bit started to paint uh can
  1990. 1:25:26we turn the music off no problem started
  1991. 1:25:28to talk paint
  1992. 1:25:31whatever
  1993. 1:25:35maybe gosh that puzzle we were till not
  1994. 1:25:37for probably a good hour and a half so
  1995. 1:25:418:00ish is when you went to hide
  1996. 1:25:44upstairs originally no that's when we
  1997. 1:25:46were like painting so then it's like
  1998. 1:25:48okay well I we can't I don't want to
  1999. 1:25:50paint anymore let's just come on okay
  2000. 1:25:53you want to play see what he does is
  2001. 1:25:56okay tag you're it which it's like okay
  2002. 1:25:57we know okay take off mhm that's what we
  2003. 1:26:01did and then you went upstairs and then
  2004. 1:26:03he didn't come up and you came down and
  2005. 1:26:06the suitcase was there originally
  2006. 1:26:07because you guys were planning to do
  2007. 1:26:09donations it was already there um have
  2008. 1:26:12you guys ever played the you said you
  2009. 1:26:14played hide-and-seek like probably three
  2010. 1:26:16times in your relationship when you have
  2011. 1:26:18played have you ever zipped him up in a
  2012. 1:26:20suitcase prior no okay just kind of like
  2013. 1:26:24that prop was there and it was there and
  2014. 1:26:27it was in Play Because Why do you say it
  2015. 1:26:29like that though I would never do that
  2016. 1:26:33you would never zip them up in a
  2017. 1:26:35suitcase wellan I mean we were playing
  2018. 1:26:38that time but I'm saying well I'm
  2019. 1:26:40talking about hide and seek which is a
  2020. 1:26:41game so the suitcase originally is in
  2021. 1:26:45our closet buried all the way to the
  2022. 1:26:47back if you I don't I know the CSI
  2023. 1:26:51people saw our closet our closet needs
  2024. 1:26:53to be cleaned out
  2025. 1:26:55really bad my son's clothes need to be
  2026. 1:26:57cleaned out really bad because they
  2027. 1:26:59don't fit him anymore and I'm tired of
  2028. 1:27:00looking at them so he took it upon
  2029. 1:27:02himself including that suitcase to take
  2030. 1:27:06it downstairs so we can get all of our
  2031. 1:27:08clothes our donations and everything and
  2032. 1:27:09just leave the whole thing by the
  2033. 1:27:12clothing and shoe thing at my son's
  2034. 1:27:14school no we're just I'm just asking out
  2035. 1:27:17of the in the past like have have you
  2036. 1:27:20ever zipped him up in anything jokingly
  2037. 1:27:23or not but obviously I understand you
  2038. 1:27:27know you're claiming that Sunday it was
  2039. 1:27:28a joking matter you were laughing he was
  2040. 1:27:30laughing but what I'm just asking is in
  2041. 1:27:32the past like is it something that you
  2042. 1:27:34guys normally do absolutely not
  2043. 1:27:38okay um we were actually this last game
  2044. 1:27:42running out of places to hide because we
  2045. 1:27:44have a town home where it's upstairs or
  2046. 1:27:45downstairs
  2047. 1:27:48so um okay so do you remember making any
  2048. 1:27:52videos or May having any cover anything
  2049. 1:27:56any photos videos that you remember
  2050. 1:27:59doing on your phone on
  2051. 1:28:02Sunday watch your
  2052. 1:28:04face no I think I took a picture of a
  2053. 1:28:08dog okay but your phone is password
  2054. 1:28:10protected you have the password he has
  2055. 1:28:13the facial recognition so it's not like
  2056. 1:28:15someone else could be on your phone no I
  2057. 1:28:17have both but you have the face and the
  2058. 1:28:20password yeah but he only has the face
  2059. 1:28:22correct no to be able to get onto your
  2060. 1:28:24phone you told me that he looks at the
  2061. 1:28:26phone oh I misunderstood I thought you
  2062. 1:28:28were asking if I did yes it's me okay
  2063. 1:28:30does he have access to your phone cuz
  2064. 1:28:32you said it's a your phone okay how does
  2065. 1:28:34he have access Sarah can I buy your
  2066. 1:28:35phone yeah it's right there on the
  2067. 1:28:37kitchen counter okay but how does he get
  2068. 1:28:38into it cuz it's password protected
  2069. 1:28:40he'll come and get it to me and I'll
  2070. 1:28:41just do the face thing where sometimes
  2071. 1:28:43too like he's look he'll joke with me
  2072. 1:28:45and say okay I need to borrow your phone
  2073. 1:28:47and he'll hold a while I'm cooking or do
  2074. 1:28:49something do the facial recognition Okay
  2075. 1:28:51so he doesn't know the password and he
  2076. 1:28:52doesn't have the facial recognition
  2077. 1:28:55he is the only other person that would
  2078. 1:28:56use your phone I'm assuming well Lucas
  2079. 1:28:58right but Lucas wasn't there somay right
  2080. 1:29:03um so to your
  2081. 1:29:06recollection no videos on Sunday not
  2082. 1:29:10that I'm aware of okay I mean I like I
  2083. 1:29:13maybe took a picture of them the two of
  2084. 1:29:16Tess and the dogs and George and them
  2085. 1:29:20dancing but I mean or it's just Tess mhm
  2086. 1:29:24okay um so I have something that I want
  2087. 1:29:27to show you that we found um and it was
  2088. 1:29:32from your phone she's
  2089. 1:29:34Frozen it's like deer in the headlights
  2090. 1:29:39here you need to move it around go
  2091. 1:29:42[Applause]
  2092. 1:29:50ahead no I don't remember that for
  2093. 1:29:52everything you done to me oh for
  2094. 1:29:55everything you've done to me your
  2095. 1:29:56batter's about to B shut your batter's
  2096. 1:29:58about to so is your
  2097. 1:30:00boyfriend let
  2098. 1:30:08me very poor timeing to have your
  2099. 1:30:11doesn't last very long us to last a lot
  2100. 1:30:13longer than that I don't know what
  2101. 1:30:14happened okay let me just grab
  2102. 1:30:17[Applause]
  2103. 1:30:18[Music]
  2104. 1:30:21something no I was just simply asking
  2105. 1:30:23cuz
  2106. 1:30:25um you had a look on your face when she
  2107. 1:30:27asked you if you've ever done that
  2108. 1:30:28before you look kind of shocked and no
  2109. 1:30:32okay why did you say it like that like I
  2110. 1:30:35don't think you all understand who I am
  2111. 1:30:38where well tell me I mean I've always
  2112. 1:30:41been a straight A student I am an
  2113. 1:30:43outstanding mother to my son I excel at
  2114. 1:30:46everything
  2115. 1:30:48everything
  2116. 1:30:50I I would not do that you wouldn't like
  2117. 1:30:54is somebody in a
  2118. 1:30:56suitcase well I didn't like completely
  2119. 1:30:59lock it I mean I opened it with one
  2120. 1:31:01finger I left enough in there for him to
  2121. 1:31:03get out
  2122. 1:31:05okay and I wasn't planning on going
  2123. 1:31:07upstairs and going to sleep
  2124. 1:31:12[Applause]
  2125. 1:31:17okay no it was just the way you said it
  2126. 1:31:19you guys are scaring me all
  2127. 1:31:22right well we just want you to watch
  2128. 1:31:24this this came from your phone don't you
  2129. 1:31:25want to know what's on it
  2130. 1:31:38[Applause]
  2131. 1:31:42yes is it long because I don't know how
  2132. 1:31:45much I can take
  2133. 1:31:47[Applause]
  2134. 1:31:49mm I don't know how much I can pay oh I
  2135. 1:31:53don't know how to find
  2136. 1:32:00the coughs are coming pretty fast right
  2137. 1:32:02now do I have to watch
  2138. 1:32:04this I continuously throw up I don't
  2139. 1:32:07sleep I don't want to see it that's
  2140. 1:32:10okay well it's on your
  2141. 1:32:13phone and you can either explain it or
  2142. 1:32:16we take it for what it is yeah we're
  2143. 1:32:18just trying to give you the opportunity
  2144. 1:32:19to tell us what's going on that's it
  2145. 1:32:23[Applause]
  2146. 1:32:26it's that long 2 minutes for everything
  2147. 1:32:29you guys
  2148. 1:32:30me for everything you've done to
  2149. 1:32:34me [ __ ]
  2150. 1:32:37[Applause]
  2151. 1:32:39you that's you your voice
  2152. 1:32:44stupid
  2153. 1:32:46s that's my name don't wear it
  2154. 1:32:50[Applause]
  2155. 1:32:52up I can't
  2156. 1:32:56bre yeah that's when you do you shook
  2157. 1:33:02[Applause]
  2158. 1:33:04me I don't want to watch it
  2159. 1:33:10please last last time we talked to you
  2160. 1:33:12you have said that you put him in the
  2161. 1:33:14suitcase he had two fingers hanging
  2162. 1:33:20out and that's where it was
  2163. 1:33:24two different videos and a still picture
  2164. 1:33:26where yeah it shows you flipping him in
  2165. 1:33:28different positions and him saying that
  2166. 1:33:30he can't breathe and you're saying [ __ ]
  2167. 1:33:32so this is upside down so in order for
  2168. 1:33:35him to have gotten into it it was
  2169. 1:33:37flipped up right it was flipped up
  2170. 1:33:40normal like as if you're packing
  2171. 1:33:42something so this is upside down guys
  2172. 1:33:44this is killing me right now so this
  2173. 1:33:46image is upside down and then this small
  2174. 1:33:50video that occurred 11 minutes later it
  2175. 1:33:54flipped over the other
  2176. 1:33:57way closer to your dining room table
  2177. 1:34:00okay now he's obviously still in there
  2178. 1:34:02so he didn't how did that how did it go
  2179. 1:34:05from the back to the
  2180. 1:34:09front my plan was not to go upstairs and
  2181. 1:34:11go to sleep the edits are from the the
  2182. 1:34:13Sheriff's Office oh that's what you did
  2183. 1:34:15yeah but not
  2184. 1:34:16intentional no you told me you went
  2185. 1:34:18upstairs because you were getting ready
  2186. 1:34:21for bed sto here okay but here show me
  2187. 1:34:25where you can see any fingers coming out
  2188. 1:34:28cuz there's the end it's and his head's
  2189. 1:34:31right here mhm so going like this rather
  2190. 1:34:35than going all the way up it's like
  2191. 1:34:38this but why is he saying I can't
  2192. 1:34:40breathe and why is he pushing on it as
  2193. 1:34:43if he can't get out and it doesn't show
  2194. 1:34:46a hole there's no hole there's no
  2195. 1:34:48fingers I don't see his fingers there's
  2196. 1:34:49no hole I don't know what you want me to
  2197. 1:34:52tell you like I don't know like what you
  2198. 1:34:53want me to tell you I'm just showing you
  2199. 1:34:56I'm just telling you what we see and
  2200. 1:34:57what we've heard from the other video I
  2201. 1:34:59understand I understand he's begging to
  2202. 1:35:02let for you to let him out you sound
  2203. 1:35:06you're laughing in the beginning and
  2204. 1:35:07then in the end it sounds kind of like a
  2205. 1:35:09no it's not
  2206. 1:35:11malicious well saying [ __ ] you it's not
  2207. 1:35:14malicious then what is that what is [ __ ]
  2208. 1:35:18you mean to
  2209. 1:35:19you well like if you were just if I were
  2210. 1:35:21just tell my he does like I get told
  2211. 1:35:25everything but a white woman so okay I
  2212. 1:35:28my intention was not to leave him in
  2213. 1:35:31there please understand that my
  2214. 1:35:34intention was not to leave him in there
  2215. 1:35:37but you went upstairs thinking that he
  2216. 1:35:39could get himself out but the video
  2217. 1:35:43shows point I see his
  2218. 1:35:47fingers and then 30 minutes later he
  2219. 1:35:49didn't show and he's telling you
  2220. 1:35:52up you think you told me he was laughing
  2221. 1:35:56and I we were before video there there's
  2222. 1:35:58no laugh first got in
  2223. 1:35:59there both of us were so how long was he
  2224. 1:36:02in there for like this video is at 1112
  2225. 1:36:05when it starts so was he in there for
  2226. 1:36:07like a long time prior to recording this
  2227. 1:36:09no no so it goes from funny to no longer
  2228. 1:36:14funny you're the only one laughing but I
  2229. 1:36:16didn't think that
  2230. 1:36:17he was like panicky like I didn't I
  2231. 1:36:22stood pushing Up On A Suitcase saying
  2232. 1:36:25sarah sarah Sarah I can't bre I can't
  2233. 1:36:29breathe George has done that in the past
  2234. 1:36:31before too where it's just like he
  2235. 1:36:33thinks that he's woe with me kind of
  2236. 1:36:35thing where it's like I don't he's never
  2237. 1:36:36been locked in a suitcase he couldn't
  2238. 1:36:38get out so it's kind of I thought it was
  2239. 1:36:40The Crawling wolf crying wolf kind of
  2240. 1:36:44thing and again my plan but nowhere in
  2241. 1:36:47there is he laughing is he joking he is
  2242. 1:36:50begging and you're the only one laughing
  2243. 1:36:53okay and you're the only one saying
  2244. 1:36:57derogatory comments like you're mad no
  2245. 1:37:01please don't I don't mean to sound
  2246. 1:37:03negative and I don't know if I can say
  2247. 1:37:05this but like it's like you guys are
  2248. 1:37:08kind of trying to like feed me like no
  2249. 1:37:10I'm just trying to show you a video that
  2250. 1:37:11you no longer want to watch because you
  2251. 1:37:13probably don't want to know the outcome
  2252. 1:37:14of how and what you said well I know
  2253. 1:37:17what you you know what's on that video
  2254. 1:37:19now you remember making that video no
  2255. 1:37:22why don't you remember making the video
  2256. 1:37:24probably because we had been drinking
  2257. 1:37:26but you weren't
  2258. 1:37:28drunk just because I went upstairs and
  2259. 1:37:31just because you're drunk doesn't mean
  2260. 1:37:33times that you were not drunk you said
  2261. 1:37:35that you had your wits about you you
  2262. 1:37:37said he had his wits about you m you
  2263. 1:37:40said that you don't like not having your
  2264. 1:37:42wits in my experience if somebody cannot
  2265. 1:37:46remember doing something to the extent
  2266. 1:37:48of making two videos and a video and
  2267. 1:37:51taking a
  2268. 1:37:52photo they are
  2269. 1:37:54intoxicated okay I understand where you
  2270. 1:37:56all are coming from well we're just
  2271. 1:37:58trying to make sense of it we're trying
  2272. 1:37:59to figure out we're trying to figure
  2273. 1:38:01out you explain it to us we're listening
  2274. 1:38:04this you explain it to us we're
  2275. 1:38:06listening I just did like we were
  2276. 1:38:09playing and then like I thought it
  2277. 1:38:14was my plan was not to go upstairs and
  2278. 1:38:18go to sleep my plan was not to he'll be
  2279. 1:38:20up here any minute but you willingly
  2280. 1:38:23went upstairs and went to sleep no one
  2281. 1:38:25forced you to go upstairs and get my
  2282. 1:38:27plan wasn't also to leave him in the
  2283. 1:38:29suitcase and then I fell asleep because
  2284. 1:38:32I and then I fell asleep he's asking to
  2285. 1:38:35come out I didn't do it intentionally
  2286. 1:38:38he's asking to come out I didn't do it
  2287. 1:38:40intentionally a confined space like
  2288. 1:38:42that well I thought by not zipping it up
  2289. 1:38:46all the way it would be okay my plan was
  2290. 1:38:49not to leave him in the what was your
  2291. 1:38:52plan
  2292. 1:38:53waiting for him to come
  2293. 1:38:55upstairs and then when he did it I fell
  2294. 1:38:59asleep you said you were up there 30
  2295. 1:39:01minutes after 30 minutes somebody not
  2296. 1:39:03coming up knowing that you that the last
  2297. 1:39:06time you saw him was in the suitcase 30
  2298. 1:39:08minutes later you're
  2299. 1:39:09like maybe I should go check on him
  2300. 1:39:12maybe I shouldn't no you that didn't
  2301. 1:39:15cross your mind because that's like an
  2302. 1:39:17assumption like that's what you all are
  2303. 1:39:19thinking just we're asking it's the
  2304. 1:39:21whole you tell us
  2305. 1:39:24it's the
  2306. 1:39:28drinking that's what it is it's the
  2307. 1:39:32drinking I thought it was like I thought
  2308. 1:39:35he was okay like I didn't that you he's
  2309. 1:39:38telling you he's not he's telling you
  2310. 1:39:40Sarah I can't breathe he's saying your
  2311. 1:39:42name and you're like that's my name
  2312. 1:39:43don't wear it out guys that's how we are
  2313. 1:39:48with each other like he
  2314. 1:39:51has nobody understands our relationship
  2315. 1:39:54this the whole suitcase
  2316. 1:39:56thing never happened before would you
  2317. 1:39:59leave someone else in a suitcase would
  2318. 1:40:01you leave Lucas in a suitcase jokingly
  2319. 1:40:03cuz it was a joking matter you put him
  2320. 1:40:04in there jokingly would you leave Lucas
  2321. 1:40:06jokingly in there and you love Lucas
  2322. 1:40:08right I wouldn't do that to him either I
  2323. 1:40:11wouldn't do that to him so I I just well
  2324. 1:40:15sound like again I don't think you all
  2325. 1:40:17understand like
  2326. 1:40:18it's I mean it's not my that was not my
  2327. 1:40:21intention
  2328. 1:40:22[Music]
  2329. 1:40:24y'all don't have any idea what I done
  2330. 1:40:25for but by your act and that's exactly
  2331. 1:40:28right you get to the point where you've
  2332. 1:40:30done so much for somebody and they don't
  2333. 1:40:31show you any appreciation he
  2334. 1:40:35did not by by your words in the video I
  2335. 1:40:39don't get that he did because you bring
  2336. 1:40:41up the fact that when he's choking you
  2337. 1:40:43you can't breathe that's how you felt
  2338. 1:40:45when he cheated on you you couldn't
  2339. 1:40:47breathe and you verbally several times
  2340. 1:40:50told him just [ __ ] you said won't let us
  2341. 1:40:53play the rest of it you don't want to
  2342. 1:40:55when I say cheating it's on his phone
  2343. 1:40:59okay cheating is cheating I think so too
  2344. 1:41:03exactly it's your definition of cheating
  2345. 1:41:04though so I mean that's what the word
  2346. 1:41:07cheat means and that's what you told him
  2347. 1:41:08in the video that I couldn't breathe
  2348. 1:41:11when you cheated on
  2349. 1:41:12me no that's how I felt when he said
  2350. 1:41:15Sarah I can't
  2351. 1:41:17breathe and you told I don't know what
  2352. 1:41:20you this is what would you say somebody
  2353. 1:41:24told you that they had done this done
  2354. 1:41:27what Z somebody in the suitcase and went
  2355. 1:41:29up and went to bed do you all not think
  2356. 1:41:31so you all think that it's like oh good
  2357. 1:41:33I got him in there now I'm going to go
  2358. 1:41:34to sleep is that what you guys are
  2359. 1:41:36trying to assume or trying to like we're
  2360. 1:41:40just the
  2361. 1:41:42video is very portraying of the opposite
  2362. 1:41:46of what you told us it is not it is not
  2363. 1:41:49leading up it is not matching what I'm
  2364. 1:41:52wise statement you gave us in the car
  2365. 1:41:55and that's why we want to know and I
  2366. 1:41:57don't remember doing this the injuries
  2367. 1:42:00are not consistent with what you've told
  2368. 1:42:02us so we have a lot of
  2369. 1:42:04inconsistencies and this
  2370. 1:42:08video explains itself it really truly
  2371. 1:42:11does do you don't think that I have
  2372. 1:42:13thought about that thought about the
  2373. 1:42:16video or thought about but no again if
  2374. 1:42:18you don't mind please so you all are
  2375. 1:42:21assuming that it's like good I got him
  2376. 1:42:24in there now I'm going to go to sleep is
  2377. 1:42:26that what you all are assuming well it's
  2378. 1:42:28on an assumption when that's what you
  2379. 1:42:29told us so that happened that's what
  2380. 1:42:31happened and the
  2381. 1:42:34video I
  2382. 1:42:36mean I'm not going to
  2383. 1:42:39say you thought he could get out on his
  2384. 1:42:43but the video shows that he cannot get
  2385. 1:42:45out on his own but I but when I unzipped
  2386. 1:42:48it I unzipped it with one finger from
  2387. 1:42:50the outside but it had the hole in it
  2388. 1:42:55and you're claiming that it had a paper
  2389. 1:42:57clip so that's what assisted you in
  2390. 1:42:59doing it what you told us when I had my
  2391. 1:43:01sweatshirt I said I thought it had a
  2392. 1:43:04paper clip on it it's got but the zipper
  2393. 1:43:06part is broken that's yes which is why
  2394. 1:43:08we were going to it yeah I I just you
  2395. 1:43:11were able to unzip it from the outside
  2396. 1:43:13very easily cuz that's the way they're
  2397. 1:43:15designed but you could on the inside
  2398. 1:43:18too I don't know how why wouldn't he
  2399. 1:43:20have gotten himself out if he could he
  2400. 1:43:23know like I don't know if you saw like
  2401. 1:43:25where the hole was I don't know I didn't
  2402. 1:43:27see a hole I didn't see finger only one
  2403. 1:43:30that's that's what I'm saying like he's
  2404. 1:43:31in one position and where his head would
  2405. 1:43:34be we should be able to see fingers and
  2406. 1:43:37then when it's flipped over onto this
  2407. 1:43:39right side again his head is closer to
  2408. 1:43:42us facing the video so we should be able
  2409. 1:43:43to see fingers and we don't see anything
  2410. 1:43:45we see no movement of him trying to
  2411. 1:43:47unzip it or physically unzipping it all
  2412. 1:43:49we see is pushing up trying to push out
  2413. 1:43:52of it
  2414. 1:43:53please do not assume I'm not assuming I
  2415. 1:43:57haven't assumed anything I follow
  2416. 1:43:59evidence but my intention was not again
  2417. 1:44:02oh good I got him in there now I'm just
  2418. 1:44:04going to go to sleep what do you think
  2419. 1:44:06someone that knows nothing about this or
  2420. 1:44:08hears just a little bit like oh they
  2421. 1:44:10were playing around in a suitcase she
  2422. 1:44:12been drinking and probably sleep that's
  2423. 1:44:15what happened but you let him out before
  2424. 1:44:18I mean you put him in so why didn't you
  2425. 1:44:19take him out because I was upstairs and
  2426. 1:44:21I fell asleep no before you went
  2427. 1:44:24upstairs you like consciously had to
  2428. 1:44:25walk upstairs do I mean you obviously
  2429. 1:44:28remember going to bed because you were
  2430. 1:44:29able to give me a time frame on that and
  2431. 1:44:30you specifically told me that that you
  2432. 1:44:33went
  2433. 1:44:34upstairs my intention is not for this to
  2434. 1:44:38happen I am sick about
  2435. 1:44:42it I've never done anything like this
  2436. 1:44:46before in the past I'm
  2437. 1:44:49sick especially with that I thought I
  2438. 1:44:52couldn't sleep last night
  2439. 1:44:54I don't well here's the thing you tell
  2440. 1:44:57us the last night you you Lally remember
  2441. 1:45:00this when you told us last night that he
  2442. 1:45:03was laughing you were laughing you put
  2443. 1:45:04him in the suitcase he has two fingers
  2444. 1:45:06sticking out and you go to bed now we
  2445. 1:45:08see something totally different and it
  2446. 1:45:10actually shows you upset and again using
  2447. 1:45:15uh derogatory terms to him when he's
  2448. 1:45:17begging for his life to get out of that
  2449. 1:45:19suitcase so you say we're assuming not
  2450. 1:45:23assuming but so it just happened to be
  2451. 1:45:26that whenever I was videotaping or doing
  2452. 1:45:28whatever else it was had just happened
  2453. 1:45:30to not have that in there
  2454. 1:45:32okay and you also in the video you can't
  2455. 1:45:34see any holes there's nowhere in that
  2456. 1:45:37where the zipper separates and you can
  2457. 1:45:39see a hole if there's a hole he's
  2458. 1:45:40pushing on it begging you to get out we
  2459. 1:45:43should probably see that that that hole
  2460. 1:45:47eventually would have been able to get
  2461. 1:45:48out alcohol Bas off what you're telling
  2462. 1:45:50us he should have been able to get out
  2463. 1:45:51but the video
  2464. 1:45:54shows him attempting to get out begging
  2465. 1:45:55to get out and he can't so that's that's
  2466. 1:45:58just what we're trying to figure out I
  2467. 1:45:59don't know if maybe you had too much to
  2468. 1:46:01drink you zipped it up all the way and
  2469. 1:46:03then you know I did not zip it up all
  2470. 1:46:04the way okay well I did not zip it up
  2471. 1:46:09all the
  2472. 1:46:12way this is horrific okay horrific it is
  2473. 1:46:16terrible
  2474. 1:46:18horrific I don't think I'll ever be
  2475. 1:46:21right because of this ever be right
  2476. 1:46:24dealing with everything else that I have
  2477. 1:46:25in my life personally and then this okay
  2478. 1:46:30whom I
  2479. 1:46:31loved whom I loved it was not
  2480. 1:46:35intentional I will put my hand on the
  2481. 1:46:37Bible it was not
  2482. 1:46:40intentional I would not do that to him
  2483. 1:46:42nor anyone else but you
  2484. 1:46:46did not intentional you intentionally
  2485. 1:46:50went up to bed I didn't go because I'm
  2486. 1:46:53saying it okay get out how did you not
  2487. 1:46:56intentionally go to bed you said you
  2488. 1:46:58went up to upstairs and got into bed
  2489. 1:47:00that's intentionally going to bed
  2490. 1:47:02waiting for him and he doesn't come but
  2491. 1:47:04you don't go down to check on him so I
  2492. 1:47:06happen to go to sleep when I say go to
  2493. 1:47:09sleep and what do you normally do when
  2494. 1:47:10you what do you normally do when you go
  2495. 1:47:12to bed what do you mean what is a bed
  2496. 1:47:15for going to sleep right so you go to
  2497. 1:47:18obviously tell too that like I do what
  2498. 1:47:22okay
  2499. 1:47:25you kept telling us hey I wasn't
  2500. 1:47:26intoxicated I wasn't this I wasn't
  2501. 1:47:29that being drunk and intoxicated
  2502. 1:47:33which yeah you can tell that I had been
  2503. 1:47:35drinking but okay so if you weren't
  2504. 1:47:39intoxicated then why would you ever
  2505. 1:47:42leave somebody in a suitcase that's
  2506. 1:47:44begging to get out that's telling you
  2507. 1:47:45they can't breathe if I weren't if I
  2508. 1:47:48hadn't been drinking you you still think
  2509. 1:47:50it would be the same thing where it's
  2510. 1:47:51like hop in uh I'm going to go to
  2511. 1:47:55sleep is that what you all are trying to
  2512. 1:47:57do to portray me trying to do anything
  2513. 1:48:00I'm simply asking you to explain to me
  2514. 1:48:03what
  2515. 1:48:05happened everything was fine and
  2516. 1:48:09dandy fine and dandy was fine and dandy
  2517. 1:48:13you also okay for for me to tell you
  2518. 1:48:16this
  2519. 1:48:18again mind you I've been without him for
  2520. 1:48:20a day now mhm
  2521. 1:48:25I
  2522. 1:48:26don't
  2523. 1:48:29know I I I mean I don't know what you
  2524. 1:48:32all want me to tell you because this was
  2525. 1:48:35not in any way shape or form hand on the
  2526. 1:48:38Bible intentional okay so you just left
  2527. 1:48:43you left him there to teach him a lesson
  2528. 1:48:45I didn't mean to leave him there that's
  2529. 1:48:47what I'm trying to tell you you got up
  2530. 1:48:50and walked away how is that not
  2531. 1:48:51intentionally leaving him there because
  2532. 1:48:53I'm looking at the hole knowing that
  2533. 1:48:55it's it's
  2534. 1:48:56there he'll get out and no PP because
  2535. 1:48:59you then he doesn't but you don't go
  2536. 1:49:00check on
  2537. 1:49:02him you say you're up for 30 minutes and
  2538. 1:49:04he doesn't come up you don't go down and
  2539. 1:49:06check on him I'm in the bed you even
  2540. 1:49:10move you move you admit to moving the
  2541. 1:49:13suid like over so roll it you roll it
  2542. 1:49:17like it's not like I didn't want to baby
  2543. 1:49:19like
  2544. 1:49:20that don't want him to be upside down
  2545. 1:49:23how do you even get upside
  2546. 1:49:29down you guys are killing me right now I
  2547. 1:49:32just want you to hear shut the [ __ ] up
  2548. 1:49:35that's how he talks to me most of the
  2549. 1:49:36[Applause]
  2550. 1:49:40time this is a cough
  2551. 1:49:43counter I don't know how I don't know
  2552. 1:49:46how you want me to say it I'm just
  2553. 1:49:50trying to figure out what you would
  2554. 1:49:51expect to happen to somebody when you
  2555. 1:49:53leave them in a suitcase I didn't mean
  2556. 1:49:55to leave him in there
  2557. 1:49:59okay sorry I forgot about this part
  2558. 1:50:02again because I didn't know what to do
  2559. 1:50:04and how horrific it
  2560. 1:50:06was I called Ryan and like what 5
  2561. 1:50:09minutes later I not even 5 minutes
  2562. 1:50:12nonetheless that I had to like try to I
  2563. 1:50:14was trying to do
  2564. 1:50:16CPR I was trying to do CPR I had to get
  2565. 1:50:18him
  2566. 1:50:20out and try to do CPR
  2567. 1:50:25and they was continually doing CPR with
  2568. 1:50:28the dispatch on the phone where he had
  2569. 1:50:31me count out loud to help me focus on
  2570. 1:50:35what I was
  2571. 1:50:41doing it
  2572. 1:50:44just I don't know
  2573. 1:50:47how I mean you you can sit here all day
  2574. 1:50:50long and say I thought he was going to
  2575. 1:50:51get himself out but
  2576. 1:50:53that's he didn't and you went
  2577. 1:50:57upstairs and you stayed there for 30
  2578. 1:51:00minutes before you fell asleep how but
  2579. 1:51:02can I say too like you chose not to ever
  2580. 1:51:05at any point during that 30 minutes walk
  2581. 1:51:07back down and check on him no wait one
  2582. 1:51:09second because I know like with you all
  2583. 1:51:11and then like cuz you continually ask me
  2584. 1:51:14like time frames time frames time frames
  2585. 1:51:17where I told you like I don't bother
  2586. 1:51:18even looking at the clock most of the
  2587. 1:51:20time so it's like a guest toit so for
  2588. 1:51:23all I know I was maybe it was 10 minutes
  2589. 1:51:26okay but the point is you left the
  2590. 1:51:28living room where he was begging for
  2591. 1:51:31help and went upstairs regardless of how
  2592. 1:51:34long you were there you left you say I
  2593. 1:51:36thought he was the boy calling wolf
  2594. 1:51:39again okay so when he asks to be let out
  2595. 1:51:44like what's your reasoning for not
  2596. 1:51:45letting him out when I was upstairs no
  2597. 1:51:48when he's asking on the video he asked
  2598. 1:51:50multiple times he has to be let out I
  2599. 1:51:52can't breathe what like why didn't you
  2600. 1:51:54let them
  2601. 1:51:55out well number one I number one I had
  2602. 1:51:58no idea it was going to end like that
  2603. 1:52:00okay number one okay uh number two just
  2604. 1:52:05you know what I'll give you five minutes
  2605. 1:52:07or so in there that's they'll give you
  2606. 1:52:09five minutes or so five minutes for
  2607. 1:52:13what well based off the video One video
  2608. 1:52:16is at 11:12 and the next one's at 11:23
  2609. 1:52:19so you actually gave him at least 11
  2610. 1:52:21minutes per video recording so my my
  2611. 1:52:24thing is when it stopped he asked
  2612. 1:52:27multiple times I mean why why did you
  2613. 1:52:28not let him out it's just a simple
  2614. 1:52:30question to be honest with you I I
  2615. 1:52:34mean were you punishing
  2616. 1:52:36him no just well that's what you're
  2617. 1:52:39saying in the
  2618. 1:52:40video this is what you get this is what
  2619. 1:52:43you make me feel like see and then it's
  2620. 1:52:46all backfired on me like it's all
  2621. 1:52:48backfired on me and I understand the
  2622. 1:52:50severity of this I just
  2623. 1:52:53it's awful I know
  2624. 1:52:55okay it's
  2625. 1:52:58awful and I will tell you both this
  2626. 1:53:01right now too I will never drink alcohol
  2627. 1:53:03again okay like I will never drink
  2628. 1:53:06alcohol again I don't care what it is in
  2629. 1:53:08any way shape or
  2630. 1:53:10form but let's get back to this what was
  2631. 1:53:14the reason for leaving him when he's
  2632. 1:53:15begging to be let out I don't understand
  2633. 1:53:17that what I have a feeling was and again
  2634. 1:53:19it's the whole time frame thing you go
  2635. 1:53:22asking a time frame I don't care about a
  2636. 1:53:23time frame he's in the bag saying I and
  2637. 1:53:27I my God and you say [ __ ] you when he so
  2638. 1:53:31like for like the whole few minutes that
  2639. 1:53:33he was in there like I minimum 11 but
  2640. 1:53:36yeah go ahead it's a
  2641. 1:53:39few 11 a few minutes between
  2642. 1:53:44friends well in between the two videos
  2643. 1:53:47between vide okay yeah so's the question
  2644. 1:53:50again when he's begging for his life
  2645. 1:53:53telling you he can't breathe let me out
  2646. 1:53:55and you say [ __ ] you why don't you just
  2647. 1:53:57let him out what are you trying to prove
  2648. 1:53:59to
  2649. 1:54:04him there was obviously something in
  2650. 1:54:06your head that you were thinking of when
  2651. 1:54:08he was asking to let be let out and
  2652. 1:54:10you're like again it's the boy calling
  2653. 1:54:14wolf okay but where did where does this
  2654. 1:54:16game end I don't you say this is a game
  2655. 1:54:19you got obviously like the wrong way
  2656. 1:54:23so what was your intention for leaving
  2657. 1:54:24them in there and it's not fair it is
  2658. 1:54:27not fair you guys are trying to again oh
  2659. 1:54:32he's in there night
  2660. 1:54:34night that's what
  2661. 1:54:37happened no that's absolutely what
  2662. 1:54:39happened intentionally how's it not you
  2663. 1:54:42got up off the couch walked up the
  2664. 1:54:44flight of stairs and got in your bed
  2665. 1:54:46thinking he was going to get out and he
  2666. 1:54:48didn't and you still didn't go down and
  2667. 1:54:50and it's the Whole 30 minute thing that
  2668. 1:54:51you guys are trying whatever I for all I
  2669. 1:54:54know his life he's begging for his life
  2670. 1:54:57telling you he can't breathe I don't
  2671. 1:54:58know what you want me to tell you like I
  2672. 1:55:01don't I didn't intentionally mean for
  2673. 1:55:04this to happen but you can't tell why
  2674. 1:55:08you left him in there and went
  2675. 1:55:10upstairs that's my only issue like what
  2676. 1:55:12am I supposed to write what do I write
  2677. 1:55:14so my thing is though it's what I have a
  2678. 1:55:16feeling is I went upstairs and just hit
  2679. 1:55:19the bed kind of thing but again and I'm
  2680. 1:55:22thinking he'll be up here in a
  2681. 1:55:25minute but then I go out but my question
  2682. 1:55:30is why didn't you just let him out prior
  2683. 1:55:32to going up I don't know
  2684. 1:55:34why he's begging to be let out he's not
  2685. 1:55:37laughing he's not having fun this you
  2686. 1:55:39said you said this was supposed to be
  2687. 1:55:41fun you were laughing before before you
  2688. 1:55:43said he was laughing you were laughing
  2689. 1:55:46you went upstairs he had his fingers out
  2690. 1:55:47of the bag and he was playing well
  2691. 1:55:49obviously that's not the case so are you
  2692. 1:55:51guys so what is it you're trying to like
  2693. 1:55:55he's trying to figure out
  2694. 1:55:57why why what why what was the motivation
  2695. 1:56:01for leaving him in the bag why he was
  2696. 1:56:03left in the bag why the I didn't have
  2697. 1:56:05any motivation it was me he and I having
  2698. 1:56:08a great day fooling around being stupid
  2699. 1:56:11and apparently me going upstairs and
  2700. 1:56:14going to hitting the bed not going to
  2701. 1:56:17sleep where it's like hm I'm tired now
  2702. 1:56:19I'm going to go to sleep that's that's
  2703. 1:56:20excluding you know it's a good analogy
  2704. 1:56:22for the day excluding the fact that he's
  2705. 1:56:24got a a bump on the back of his head a
  2706. 1:56:26bump on the front of his head and his
  2707. 1:56:28lip is busted and he has a bump I mean I
  2708. 1:56:31don't know what you all want me to tell
  2709. 1:56:33you like this is not fair at all at all
  2710. 1:56:39yes that you all are assuming that
  2711. 1:56:41that's from me where else did it come
  2712. 1:56:43from if you were say it's opposite you
  2713. 1:56:45were in the suitcase and you're asking
  2714. 1:56:48to be let out would you hope that that
  2715. 1:56:51person would let you out like you're
  2716. 1:56:53asking to be let out of a suitcase
  2717. 1:56:54should they not let you
  2718. 1:56:56out
  2719. 1:56:58eventually I'm guessing I mean I
  2720. 1:57:01don't I'm blaming it on the wine blaming
  2721. 1:57:05it on the
  2722. 1:57:07wine so you guys are like assuming that
  2723. 1:57:10you keep saying we're assuming oh we're
  2724. 1:57:12not we haven't assumed anything but you
  2725. 1:57:14guys are
  2726. 1:57:15assuming that that's what I did no by
  2727. 1:57:21what the facts of what happened we got
  2728. 1:57:24there you said you pulled him out of a
  2729. 1:57:25suitcase you said you went up you went
  2730. 1:57:27to bed we're not assuming that these are
  2731. 1:57:30the facts that you're telling us is like
  2732. 1:57:32oh I'm tired oh I'm tired well that's
  2733. 1:57:34what you told me on a sworn recorded
  2734. 1:57:36statement yesterday because when I said
  2735. 1:57:38oh you went upstairs and passed out you
  2736. 1:57:40were like no I did not pass out you got
  2737. 1:57:42attitude with me because you were assum
  2738. 1:57:44you thought I was assuming that you were
  2739. 1:57:46drunk so that's that's an assumption
  2740. 1:57:48that was an assumption why I said you
  2741. 1:57:49passed out and guess what you corrected
  2742. 1:57:51me
  2743. 1:57:52you're very adamant about the fact that
  2744. 1:57:54both of you had your W what's your
  2745. 1:57:56favorite word to use
  2746. 1:58:00comates you've used it today too to say
  2747. 1:58:03that you guys were within your within
  2748. 1:58:05your
  2749. 1:58:06WS there's two two empty bottles of
  2750. 1:58:09wine no but but you drink both of them I
  2751. 1:58:12think you did we didn't there's receipts
  2752. 1:58:15for the purchased yesterday so I don't
  2753. 1:58:17know how you didn't cuz they weren't
  2754. 1:58:19there the day before the one was
  2755. 1:58:22receipts from
  2756. 1:58:24yesterday only thing purchased on either
  2757. 1:58:26one was a single bottle of wine two of
  2758. 1:58:28them so we have each bottle of wine that
  2759. 1:58:31was empty in your garbage can that you
  2760. 1:58:32purchased yesterday or he purchased but
  2761. 1:58:35you two would have consumed
  2762. 1:58:37together okay well I I there receipts so
  2763. 1:58:41it's not even worth the so this
  2764. 1:58:46is so I don't know what you guys
  2765. 1:58:50are I I don't I don't know we were just
  2766. 1:58:54hoping that we could figure out why you
  2767. 1:58:56what was the motivation there was no
  2768. 1:58:59motivation wow but we're watching a
  2769. 1:59:01video that after talking to you
  2770. 1:59:04everything was laughing and fun now
  2771. 1:59:07we're watching a video where it's not
  2772. 1:59:08laughing and fun he's begging for his
  2773. 1:59:10life and you are in a very angry voice
  2774. 1:59:13telling him to [ __ ] off no yes that's
  2775. 1:59:17absolutely what it was it's not an
  2776. 1:59:19assumption the video is there we played
  2777. 1:59:21it for you
  2778. 1:59:23so you guys think that I
  2779. 1:59:27intentionally
  2780. 1:59:29you off the couch walked up the couch or
  2781. 1:59:32walked up the stairs and got into bed
  2782. 1:59:34that was intentional there's no way
  2783. 1:59:36getting around that you intentionally
  2784. 1:59:38did that nobody drug you up there you
  2785. 1:59:40didn't float up damn stairs okay well
  2786. 1:59:42it's not fair it's not fair that you
  2787. 1:59:45guys keep trying to say that that's what
  2788. 1:59:47I
  2789. 1:59:48did I don't know what to tell you you
  2790. 1:59:52told us that you didn't go
  2791. 1:59:54upstairs again there was a hole in a
  2792. 1:59:59suitcase I and zipped it from the hole
  2793. 2:00:01with one finger well the damn hole
  2794. 2:00:03didn't do him no good did
  2795. 2:00:05it but he could push it open no he
  2796. 2:00:08couldn't I the video shows him pushing
  2797. 2:00:12up if he could push it open why wouldn't
  2798. 2:00:14he have gotten out himself why would he
  2799. 2:00:16beg you to open it and tell you he can't
  2800. 2:00:19breathe okay it's they can do something
  2801. 2:00:22for themselves they're going to do it
  2802. 2:00:23they don't need assistance unless they
  2803. 2:00:25need assistance so but why would he and
  2804. 2:00:28start doing it cuz he couldn't cuz it
  2805. 2:00:30was all the way dipped didn't see it it
  2806. 2:00:33wasn't I intentionally didn't do it that
  2807. 2:00:37I intentionally did not do what that you
  2808. 2:00:40intentionally do what zip it all the
  2809. 2:00:44way he nor I nor I well he's dead as a
  2810. 2:00:48result of Your Action on each other he
  2811. 2:00:50is dead as a result I understand that
  2812. 2:00:53that's why you two didn't lay hands on
  2813. 2:00:55each other no
  2814. 2:00:58no I don't have anything you're right he
  2815. 2:01:02doesn't whatever that is whatever this
  2816. 2:01:04whatever it is he does see this is what
  2817. 2:01:07happens it's not fair that you guys just
  2818. 2:01:10because he has those automatically blame
  2819. 2:01:12it on me like what about when you had
  2820. 2:01:15you your injuries and he gets arrested
  2821. 2:01:17is that not fair really really exact
  2822. 2:01:20same thing he has injuries you have
  2823. 2:01:23injuries like what does that mean I
  2824. 2:01:26don't have any injuries because he and I
  2825. 2:01:29have not been at it with one another so
  2826. 2:01:31every time that you guys fight you you
  2827. 2:01:32both hit each other so you should have
  2828. 2:01:34probably gone to jail all those times
  2829. 2:01:36that he went to ja for domestic the one
  2830. 2:01:38time I
  2831. 2:01:39did but he completely
  2832. 2:01:43completely trashed the police report cuz
  2833. 2:01:47that's nothing what happened because the
  2834. 2:01:49reason why I got taken in was because my
  2835. 2:01:50story was different than his
  2836. 2:01:52is so I'm being portrayed as like
  2837. 2:01:56this
  2838. 2:01:58abuser we're not saying that he doesn't
  2839. 2:02:00abuse you absolutely we're not saying so
  2840. 2:02:03I'm the one that's being portrayed as
  2841. 2:02:05[Music]
  2842. 2:02:07the because I have never dealt with
  2843. 2:02:09anything like this before I don't know
  2844. 2:02:11what to do how to do it and I always
  2845. 2:02:13know what to do and how to do
  2846. 2:02:15it this I don't know so I don't know
  2847. 2:02:18like what's going on or like
  2848. 2:02:24we are simply trying to find out as well
  2849. 2:02:26again we got one side of a story you're
  2850. 2:02:29telling us we're going with what you're
  2851. 2:02:31saying but then we find stuff that
  2852. 2:02:33negates what you're telling us and I
  2853. 2:02:35don't even remember doing that
  2854. 2:02:38okay you're telling us that we're
  2855. 2:02:40assuming stuff but what we're simply
  2856. 2:02:41doing is telling you what we saw in the
  2857. 2:02:43video and repeating what you told us I
  2858. 2:02:45understand because I don't remember that
  2859. 2:02:48okay doesn't mean it didn't happen just
  2860. 2:02:50because you don't remember it
  2861. 2:02:53so is the texting thing something about
  2862. 2:02:55me like what's is the
  2863. 2:02:58what texting oh no I'm texting no
  2864. 2:03:03I you guys are scaring me so like I
  2865. 2:03:05don't know like what to expect I mean I
  2866. 2:03:07had questions of things that need to be
  2867. 2:03:09taken care of like I don't what are your
  2868. 2:03:11questions I I have one last question I
  2869. 2:03:14just I mean you you realize you're the
  2870. 2:03:17person that killed him right I had
  2871. 2:03:19thought about that okay you left him in
  2872. 2:03:21a bag when he's in you saying I can't
  2873. 2:03:23breathe let me out and you said [ __ ] you
  2874. 2:03:26and you got up off the couch and went
  2875. 2:03:27upstairs and left him in that
  2876. 2:03:29bag not died
  2877. 2:03:33intention again I would never do that to
  2878. 2:03:35George you did not in
  2879. 2:03:39intentionally know that I don't know
  2880. 2:03:44that you got up and you went up to bed
  2881. 2:03:47alcohol is a shitty thing
  2882. 2:03:52sound it's
  2883. 2:03:54alcohol not the reason that you K
  2884. 2:03:59them you all please sit down listen to
  2885. 2:04:02me please sit down you all
  2886. 2:04:07listen I did
  2887. 2:04:10not not
  2888. 2:04:13intentionally kill him not
  2889. 2:04:16intentionally so your in I don't know
  2890. 2:04:18what it is I need to do or how to do it
  2891. 2:04:20or what to say or how to say it but your
  2892. 2:04:23but what was your intention everyone
  2893. 2:04:25knows everyone knows everything that
  2894. 2:04:28I've done for George and love him and
  2895. 2:04:30continuously helped him throughout his
  2896. 2:04:31life with me and made him a happier
  2897. 2:04:35better person and everybody has their
  2898. 2:04:37everyone knows that everybody has their
  2899. 2:04:39limits so it's like okay so while we're
  2900. 2:04:42in a good place right now I'm going to
  2901. 2:04:44snap is that what while we're in a good
  2902. 2:04:46place right
  2903. 2:04:47now absolutely I got you on video
  2904. 2:04:50screaming [ __ ] you
  2905. 2:04:52this is what it feels like when you're
  2906. 2:04:54choking me this is what it feels like
  2907. 2:04:56was however long
  2908. 2:04:58ago you said video was from last night
  2909. 2:05:01clearly
  2910. 2:05:03so there's still feelings towards it you
  2911. 2:05:07wouldn't say it if you didn't feel it
  2912. 2:05:09but I would never do that but it
  2913. 2:05:11happened and you did but that's after
  2914. 2:05:13being playful but no one's laugh having
  2915. 2:05:15a good day no one's laughing except you
  2916. 2:05:17everybody's having a good day oh I'm
  2917. 2:05:20sorry I would hate to see a bad day
  2918. 2:05:23yall are making me out to be person that
  2919. 2:05:26I'm not nor have or will I ever be or
  2920. 2:05:31are you a different person when you're
  2921. 2:05:33drunk people have different
  2922. 2:05:35personalities after they consume alcohol
  2923. 2:05:37it
  2924. 2:05:38depends if like it's well cuz you're
  2925. 2:05:41sober now so sober
  2926. 2:05:44you
  2927. 2:05:45drunk
  2928. 2:05:47not it's both of us it's both of us and
  2929. 2:05:52it's again it's not fair that you all
  2930. 2:05:55are assuming that the marks that he has
  2931. 2:05:58on him are from me we asked you where
  2932. 2:06:01they came from I have no idea well
  2933. 2:06:03nobody else was there so nobody else was
  2934. 2:06:05I have no
  2935. 2:06:07idea I swear I did not lay a hand on him
  2936. 2:06:12okay you just zipped them in the bag nor
  2937. 2:06:13he you just zipped them in the bag and
  2938. 2:06:16then you flip the bag around several
  2939. 2:06:19times I didn't do that intentionally you
  2940. 2:06:21didn't intentionally flip the background
  2941. 2:06:22no why would I do that well you told
  2942. 2:06:25good question you did when he was upside
  2943. 2:06:28down right well you had to put him
  2944. 2:06:30upside you can't get in a suitcase
  2945. 2:06:32upside down because the oh my gosh you
  2946. 2:06:36put fortunately nobody else is there
  2947. 2:06:40that's a video showing the the suitcase
  2948. 2:06:42in several different
  2949. 2:06:44positions so it shows one like she just
  2950. 2:06:47said it had to been on its back with the
  2951. 2:06:50lid open for him to get in there for you
  2952. 2:06:51to zip it up then it shows it on the
  2953. 2:06:53other side with him in it so you had to
  2954. 2:06:55flip it to there then there's another
  2955. 2:06:57video where it's on his back again so
  2956. 2:06:59you had to I'm leaving it like this
  2957. 2:07:00please I'm leaving it like this I did
  2958. 2:07:04not intentionally do this no malicious
  2959. 2:07:08content or effort was towards this no
  2960. 2:07:12malicious I would say is that help you
  2961. 2:07:15sleep but you're not sleeping so I mean
  2962. 2:07:17the last night I maybe got an hour right
  2963. 2:07:21in your voice voice you can hear the
  2964. 2:07:22maliciousness the [ __ ] you is very
  2965. 2:07:25very you don't talk to people like that
  2966. 2:07:27that's not like a common like hey Scott
  2967. 2:07:30[ __ ] you that's not that's not common
  2968. 2:07:32it's not something people do and no one
  2969. 2:07:34that sees that is going to think that so
  2970. 2:07:37we were trying to give you an
  2971. 2:07:39opportunity and and it is what it is
  2972. 2:07:42there's no maliciousness towards that so
  2973. 2:07:45I would probably be telling myself that
  2974. 2:07:47my in my intent was not for that to
  2975. 2:07:51happen
  2976. 2:07:52but you went upstairs and went to bed or
  2977. 2:07:54maybe you passed out I don't know
  2978. 2:07:56waiting for him and the whole time frame
  2979. 2:07:59say it's like regardless that's not
  2980. 2:08:01really fair regardless waiting for him
  2981. 2:08:04it's not like you you walked up the
  2982. 2:08:06stairs no one can you can't fly up the
  2983. 2:08:08stairs no one can take you up their
  2984. 2:08:09stairs you go up the stairs you lay in
  2985. 2:08:11the bed and you wait for him who cares
  2986. 2:08:15if it's 5 minutes who cares if it's 30
  2987. 2:08:17freaking seconds he's begging for his
  2988. 2:08:20life he's begging to get
  2989. 2:08:22out you go upstairs you leave them it
  2990. 2:08:25doesn't matter so it could it get the
  2991. 2:08:27time frame out of your mind it doesn't
  2992. 2:08:28matter this like it doesn't M it it
  2993. 2:08:30doesn't matter
  2994. 2:08:32because there's this so it doesn't
  2995. 2:08:35matter anything what it is I say so it
  2996. 2:08:37makes no difference whatsoever it's just
  2997. 2:08:39you keep you're lying and like you're
  2998. 2:08:41not you're now changing your story about
  2999. 2:08:43you're now now now you're drunk oh I
  3000. 2:08:46never said that I was drunk exactly but
  3001. 2:08:48you did hear today
  3002. 2:08:51that's okay you said earlier
  3003. 2:08:53everything's everything record you blam
  3004. 2:08:55It On the Alcohol you blamed it on the
  3005. 2:08:56alcohol alcohol does a lot to people yes
  3006. 2:08:59but I never said I was drunk okay you
  3007. 2:09:01did so you did this you did this sober
  3008. 2:09:04you knowingly left them down there sober
  3009. 2:09:06uh I have already told both of you also
  3010. 2:09:08that we were both drinking right okay
  3011. 2:09:11but you want to admit that you were
  3012. 2:09:12drunk is that I'm telling you all
  3013. 2:09:15both this has changed my life I will
  3014. 2:09:19take this
  3015. 2:09:21I I don't know yeah that's a true
  3016. 2:09:25statement
  3017. 2:09:28absolutely but you're trying to dance
  3018. 2:09:30around the fact that you you okay
  3019. 2:09:34just you left them in there you're
  3020. 2:09:36trying to dance around you left him in
  3021. 2:09:38there this is not you didn't leave him
  3022. 2:09:40in there it's not it's not cool like
  3023. 2:09:42this is not cool not that he's dead it's
  3024. 2:09:44but you think that I did that
  3025. 2:09:48intentionally you think that I did that
  3026. 2:09:50intentionally you intentionally left him
  3027. 2:09:52in there and left the room you went
  3028. 2:09:53upstairs to a different room you
  3029. 2:09:55intentionally did that you you did yes
  3030. 2:09:58because I'm thinking he's going to get
  3031. 2:09:59out okay and he didn't obviously not
  3032. 2:10:03when somebody's begging for their
  3033. 2:10:05begging saying I can't when you you say
  3034. 2:10:06that though but you have
  3035. 2:10:08to yall don't know George though like
  3036. 2:10:12that again I thought it was the boy
  3037. 2:10:14crying woles so it was just like what oh
  3038. 2:10:17so if your son was in there and said I
  3039. 2:10:18can't breathe are you going to open or
  3040. 2:10:20is is he nine so he's not you know it's
  3041. 2:10:23not a big deal
  3042. 2:10:26question oh you said you would never put
  3043. 2:10:28your son in a suitcase you would only
  3044. 2:10:30put George in there no George got in the
  3045. 2:10:33suitcase and you zipped it up not all
  3046. 2:10:37the way and not intentionally to leave
  3047. 2:10:39him
  3048. 2:10:40there but that's what
  3049. 2:10:44happened you keep going away
  3050. 2:10:47from that's exactly what happened you
  3051. 2:10:50bed trying to have me admit that like
  3052. 2:10:54are you trying to have me admit that
  3053. 2:10:55because I will never admit it because
  3054. 2:10:56it's not
  3055. 2:10:57true it's not
  3056. 2:11:00true I'm basically stating as a fact cuz
  3057. 2:11:02that's what
  3058. 2:11:04happened okay you videotaped him asking
  3059. 2:11:07to be let out you go upstairs so what
  3060. 2:11:11guys so what like just I don't know what
  3061. 2:11:14you want me to say other than it was not
  3062. 2:11:18out of maliciousness or intentional
  3063. 2:11:23I don't know what or how I can say it I
  3064. 2:11:26love
  3065. 2:11:27George love him to this day still love
  3066. 2:11:34him love makes you do a crazy thing it
  3067. 2:11:36doesn't do it's not one of those things
  3068. 2:11:38where it's like oh gosh you know what
  3069. 2:11:40I've done enough for you at this point I
  3070. 2:11:42never gave up on him okay why I'm here
  3071. 2:11:45today I'm still not giving up on
  3072. 2:11:49him I would do anything for him well you
  3073. 2:11:53gave up checking up on him so let him
  3074. 2:11:55out of the suitcase oh gosh
  3075. 2:12:02okay we're simply just trying to go
  3076. 2:12:04through I mean again you gave us a
  3077. 2:12:06completely different story that you
  3078. 2:12:07churched up to this was such a a lasting
  3079. 2:12:11matter it was it was fun not by that all
  3080. 2:12:14day all day video
  3081. 2:12:17that anybody looking at it does I don't
  3082. 2:12:19think anybody would look that video and
  3083. 2:12:20go George having fun right now so why is
  3084. 2:12:23it you all think that I I y'all don't
  3085. 2:12:28know me you don't know me nope would do
  3086. 2:12:31something like that especially having a
  3087. 2:12:339-year-old
  3088. 2:12:35son I don't know
  3089. 2:12:37likeold would why are you so why are you
  3090. 2:12:40so like caught on what we think yeah
  3091. 2:12:43when because you should be more
  3092. 2:12:44concerned about what you've told us it's
  3093. 2:12:46because what you guys are like trying
  3094. 2:12:48the things that the video shows that are
  3095. 2:12:50opposite of what you told us and then
  3096. 2:12:52what You' now what did that
  3097. 2:12:54say well you said that it was funny and
  3098. 2:12:57you're the only one L we were playing
  3099. 2:12:58before that okay um but then it stops
  3100. 2:13:02yeah it obviously stops being fun well I
  3101. 2:13:05cuz you're screaming at him he's get
  3102. 2:13:07screaming at
  3103. 2:13:08him sounds like screaming at
  3104. 2:13:11me I I don't know what you all want to
  3105. 2:13:14me to tell
  3106. 2:13:16you in no way shape or form was this
  3107. 2:13:19intentional
  3108. 2:13:21at
  3109. 2:13:23all
  3110. 2:13:24ever okay are you still going to allow
  3111. 2:13:27us to do your fingernails go for it go
  3112. 2:13:29for it okay cool all right I'm going to
  3113. 2:13:31get that set
  3114. 2:13:36up do you need any more water no but
  3115. 2:13:39when you come back and I ask about this
  3116. 2:13:45yeah so what I just don't understand
  3117. 2:13:51so it I don't understand how your story
  3118. 2:13:52changes so much to the fact how is it
  3119. 2:13:55changing please help me explain
  3120. 2:13:57understand you went on about how this
  3121. 2:14:00was such a playful thing and you guys
  3122. 2:14:02were laughing and it probably was for a
  3123. 2:14:03few minutes but then it obviously
  3124. 2:14:05changes the whole demeanor of this whole
  3125. 2:14:08situation completely changes it's not
  3126. 2:14:10the funny laughing matter he's not
  3127. 2:14:13laughing at all counter I didn't think
  3128. 2:14:15he was being
  3129. 2:14:16serious you absolutely sound serious
  3130. 2:14:19you're answering think so like I just
  3131. 2:14:22you don't think your voice you sounded
  3132. 2:14:24serious it's okay I I don't know what
  3133. 2:14:28you want me to tell
  3134. 2:14:30you it was a great day okay it didn't
  3135. 2:14:33end well obviously I was going to say
  3136. 2:14:36that's uh I mean for George I can't
  3137. 2:14:39explain to you I can't explain to
  3138. 2:14:41you how horrific it was okay to find him
  3139. 2:14:45horrific because I don't remember taking
  3140. 2:14:47those videos okay how horrific
  3141. 2:14:51I'm thinking he's in the bathroom I'm
  3142. 2:14:53thinking he's downstairs on the
  3143. 2:14:55laptop I can't find
  3144. 2:15:00him so what so what's going to happen
  3145. 2:15:04like here's what gets me though is you
  3146. 2:15:07don't remember taking videos you don't
  3147. 2:15:09know where he is you don't remember him
  3148. 2:15:10being in the in the suitcase and you're
  3149. 2:15:12still telling me that you had your wits
  3150. 2:15:15about you how does have W about them
  3151. 2:15:19when see that's the thing too you can
  3152. 2:15:21clearly tell you can clearly tell that I
  3153. 2:15:24had been drinking some you can clearly
  3154. 2:15:27tell I had several people that came up
  3155. 2:15:30to me in that apartment complex said
  3156. 2:15:31that you were drunk on a daily basis you
  3157. 2:15:34at regularly go right um really right
  3158. 2:15:39talk to the property manager talk to the
  3159. 2:15:41property manager okay because it's not
  3160. 2:15:43these are your neighbors the one that
  3161. 2:15:44live next to you your property manager
  3162. 2:15:46does not live next to you they see you
  3163. 2:15:48every day how many two neighbors went to
  3164. 2:15:51and asked to
  3165. 2:15:53go hold on you had two different
  3166. 2:15:55neighbors that live directly next to you
  3167. 2:15:57you asked to use a restroom and they
  3168. 2:15:58told you no and turned you away you had
  3169. 2:15:59to go across the way to somebody else no
  3170. 2:16:02okay Kim and Eli Eli or Kim is not a
  3171. 2:16:06nice person she's just automatically not
  3172. 2:16:08nice even after me and Lucas went over
  3173. 2:16:10there and introduced ourselves she's
  3174. 2:16:11just not a nice person then why would
  3175. 2:16:12you think she would let you use a
  3176. 2:16:14restroom because Eli was in there Eli
  3177. 2:16:17comes over and talks to us sometimes
  3178. 2:16:18which I think pisses Kim off because
  3179. 2:16:21because he comes over and talks to us
  3180. 2:16:23the two of them they're like super
  3181. 2:16:24standoffish all the time my neighbors
  3182. 2:16:27down the street down the r their toilet
  3183. 2:16:30was broken they had stuff in the
  3184. 2:16:32bathroom so then they're like go over
  3185. 2:16:34there and try over there there's two
  3186. 2:16:36bathrooms I would let somebody go
  3187. 2:16:37upstairs and use my my personal bathroom
  3188. 2:16:41that's what the downstairs one is for if
  3189. 2:16:43it's somebody you like would you
  3190. 2:16:44somebody you knew they're in the process
  3191. 2:16:46of doing all this stuff in the kitchen
  3192. 2:16:49and there's stuff in the bathroom and
  3193. 2:16:50the it doesn't work just walk across the
  3194. 2:16:52way no problem and of course they let me
  3195. 2:16:56in them and them they're
  3196. 2:16:59together they're part they're
  3197. 2:17:02families and nonetheless if you really
  3198. 2:17:04want to know and I hope it doesn't get
  3199. 2:17:05them in trouble but he is over here
  3200. 2:17:07illegally so he's trying to work on
  3201. 2:17:10getting his green card what do I got to
  3202. 2:17:12do with you Us in the rest room they
  3203. 2:17:13didn't want to be involved should use
  3204. 2:17:16you got use your no no no I was asking
  3205. 2:17:17last night cuz you know I mean we had
  3206. 2:17:19several different people I've seen
  3207. 2:17:23drunk on a regular basis Eli and Kim Eli
  3208. 2:17:25and Kim okay did you ask next door those
  3209. 2:17:28are the ones next door that she asked to
  3210. 2:17:30use the restroom and they said no no she
  3211. 2:17:32said no Okay and like I said she's not a
  3212. 2:17:36nice person they're coming what are your
  3213. 2:17:37questions y can help you who's coming to
  3214. 2:17:41do the fingernails you said that we
  3215. 2:17:44[Music]
  3216. 2:17:45fix and you don't have to allow us to do
  3217. 2:17:48it just so know so don't think that I
  3218. 2:17:51don't have a problem okay make
  3219. 2:17:54sure so am I getting my phone back no
  3220. 2:17:58not
  3221. 2:17:59today um what about Lucas's laptop no
  3222. 2:18:03not today not today what does that mean
  3223. 2:18:07we're still going through everything oh
  3224. 2:18:08that's fine you're the one just telling
  3225. 2:18:10us there's videos that we need to see on
  3226. 2:18:12it so we need to do our due diligence
  3227. 2:18:14that we go through everything see and
  3228. 2:18:15that backfires on me now too because now
  3229. 2:18:18you all think that I had even more in
  3230. 2:18:20quotes in intent to do what I did to him
  3231. 2:18:22which was not
  3232. 2:18:23intentional what's that in that is that
  3233. 2:18:27correct she's asking about your taging
  3234. 2:18:28your no but I'm asking if that's correct
  3235. 2:18:31no I'm not going to read anything that
  3236. 2:18:32you're saying I'm not that
  3237. 2:18:35you're so his prob officer mhm do you
  3238. 2:18:40all inform her or do I need to call her
  3239. 2:18:42we don't need to we don't have to inform
  3240. 2:18:44her so if you would like to call her you
  3241. 2:18:46can are you saying cuz he's still on
  3242. 2:18:49probation no but because of the nice
  3243. 2:18:51lady that she is and all that she's done
  3244. 2:18:53for him I thought it I didn't know how
  3245. 2:18:55it was legally we just have to tell his
  3246. 2:18:57parents and we don't go tell him we
  3247. 2:18:59don't else I didn't even know who his
  3248. 2:19:01probation officer was so I wouldn't go
  3249. 2:19:04so the same thing for
  3250. 2:19:05classes I need to do that
  3251. 2:19:08too um classes to do what substance
  3252. 2:19:12abuse class and his b
  3253. 2:19:16intervention something else I'm just
  3254. 2:19:18ready to ask so
  3255. 2:19:22other than
  3256. 2:19:24this so initially what was the cause of
  3257. 2:19:27death she is still pending because she
  3258. 2:19:30wants to hold the body for an additional
  3259. 2:19:33day to see if more of those bruises turn
  3260. 2:19:36into something bigger um and she's doing
  3261. 2:19:41some other tests that she's got to do so
  3262. 2:19:43she's pending it for
  3263. 2:19:45now so and that couldn't have been of
  3264. 2:19:48him being in the suitcase
  3265. 2:19:51or saying I physically did it that's
  3266. 2:19:54what she's
  3267. 2:19:55determining so the ones on the head I I
  3268. 2:19:58asked her could that have been from the
  3269. 2:20:00suitcase and she said she didn't think
  3270. 2:20:03so I didn't touch him nor did he touch
  3271. 2:20:06me
  3272. 2:20:08okay I'm leaving it a dad
  3273. 2:20:13okay
  3274. 2:20:15um so I don't know if you all know how
  3275. 2:20:18to do this because I so that's what I
  3276. 2:20:20was get ready to ask you so are you all
  3277. 2:20:23updating his parents today or when you
  3278. 2:20:25get to final
  3279. 2:20:26whatevers what does it matter
  3280. 2:20:28why what we tell his parents what do you
  3281. 2:20:31mean because
  3282. 2:20:34I we're going to have we're going to
  3283. 2:20:36talk to with them yeah I have to but
  3284. 2:20:39it's going to come down to
  3285. 2:20:41me what do you mean right so it's being
  3286. 2:20:45put on me who said that but I'm not so
  3287. 2:20:49what does it people tell them
  3288. 2:20:51we're going to give them an update just
  3289. 2:20:52like we gave you an update on their
  3290. 2:20:54autopsy okay so it's whatever BR here's
  3291. 2:20:59the thing what we had to deliver news to
  3292. 2:21:01them last night that their son was dead
  3293. 2:21:02there's not a whole lot of conversation
  3294. 2:21:04that goes on after
  3295. 2:21:05that it's not a very easy was it
  3296. 2:21:08yesterday or
  3297. 2:21:09Sunday Sunday today's Tuesday
  3298. 2:21:12right did we not meet you
  3299. 2:21:16yesterday we met you
  3300. 2:21:18yesterday yeah I'm just
  3301. 2:21:22asking right did we not meet
  3302. 2:21:26yesterday can Val question uh really yes
  3303. 2:21:31on Monday
  3304. 2:21:36okay got it
  3305. 2:21:40perfect so I don't know if I ask you
  3306. 2:21:42guys or how I find this out other than
  3307. 2:21:45talking to his parents which it's not
  3308. 2:21:48going to happen yeah probably a terrible
  3309. 2:21:50idea
  3310. 2:21:51terrible what how do you guys suggest me
  3311. 2:21:54finding out about
  3312. 2:21:57funeral yeah that's not even something
  3313. 2:22:00that's been probably talked about
  3314. 2:22:02between the family that's not something
  3315. 2:22:04we ask we have no way of I didn't know
  3316. 2:22:08that's why I'm ask so it' be up to them
  3317. 2:22:11to make their Arrangements of what they
  3318. 2:22:12want to do like she just told you this
  3319. 2:22:14quick just being told last night I'll
  3320. 2:22:16pretty much be willing to wager that
  3321. 2:22:20they have not even considered what
  3322. 2:22:21they're going to do my body can't even
  3323. 2:22:24be released so I've been there with
  3324. 2:22:26parents grandparents aunt and
  3325. 2:22:28uncles um so I don't know if I have the
  3326. 2:22:33right to or not but like I was going to
  3327. 2:22:35call his former employees whom he really
  3328. 2:22:39cared for and let them
  3329. 2:22:41know you can call whoever you want I
  3330. 2:22:44just don't want to do something that I'm
  3331. 2:22:45not supposed
  3332. 2:22:47to um you already did that how do I go
  3333. 2:22:50about getting his um wedding ring
  3334. 2:22:53engagement ring it's at the medical
  3335. 2:22:55examiner's office it'll come to us
  3336. 2:22:58eventually it'll be released to to the
  3337. 2:23:01next with Ken yeah okay I bought it for
  3338. 2:23:04him okay that is a civil issue it was on
  3339. 2:23:07his finger it goes to them they're the
  3340. 2:23:09ones that are going to release it we
  3341. 2:23:11don't have any say in that so I won't
  3342. 2:23:13get that
  3343. 2:23:15[Applause]
  3344. 2:23:18back so for all this like how do I find
  3345. 2:23:22out what's what how many like what's
  3346. 2:23:24been
  3347. 2:23:25found what do you mean uh pillow with
  3348. 2:23:28stain swabs of stain from pillow
  3349. 2:23:31suitcase that will all be sent off to f
  3350. 2:23:35f for the Department of Law Enforcement
  3351. 2:23:37they do their testing so and then like
  3352. 2:23:39whatever
  3353. 2:23:41white can with blood and neck tie with
  3354. 2:23:44blood was from the suitcase
  3355. 2:23:47correct why would you guys oh you'll see
  3356. 2:23:50it in there the baseball bat for Lucas
  3357. 2:23:53and the seeds and this is just his phone
  3358. 2:23:57my phone and the
  3359. 2:24:01laptop yeah when anything can be
  3360. 2:24:03released we will release it but we are
  3361. 2:24:05very early in this investigation
  3362. 2:24:08and it's not an overnight process
  3363. 2:24:11unfortunately
  3364. 2:24:12so what's next they're going to come and
  3365. 2:24:16swab your fingers no I'm talking about
  3366. 2:24:18like in the long run like what do I need
  3367. 2:24:21to like do I need to be doing something
  3368. 2:24:23or like I can't tell you like what to do
  3369. 2:24:27I mean like so like
  3370. 2:24:29for like I don't understand like I don't
  3371. 2:24:32know if you guys are just going to like
  3372. 2:24:34because it makes it sound like to me
  3373. 2:24:36like I'm being accused of something that
  3374. 2:24:38was not intentional I'm being accused of
  3375. 2:24:42it mhm and a handful of other things
  3376. 2:24:44that I'm being accused of okay so I
  3377. 2:24:47don't want to be at home with Lucas and
  3378. 2:24:50you guys show
  3379. 2:24:51up
  3380. 2:24:54okay so it's we're still investigating
  3381. 2:24:58the we're I don't know what you want me
  3382. 2:25:00to tell
  3383. 2:25:01you so is there going to be concrete
  3384. 2:25:04whatever it is and then it's like okay
  3385. 2:25:06this is what it is kind of thing or like
  3386. 2:25:09cuz I've done the whole Court thing I've
  3387. 2:25:11done the whole attorney thing I've done
  3388. 2:25:14whatever so if I'm not admitting
  3389. 2:25:17anything about being intentional and and
  3390. 2:25:20I killed
  3391. 2:25:23George okay sound bite that's not the
  3392. 2:25:27situation but it's trying to depend on
  3393. 2:25:30me right that was not my
  3394. 2:25:34intent but it's trying to be pend on me
  3395. 2:25:38so however or whatever it is I need to
  3396. 2:25:39do in order for that to be proven then I
  3397. 2:25:42need to do so which is why I'm trying to
  3398. 2:25:44get my ducks in a row okay so that's why
  3399. 2:25:47I'm asking what the next step is other
  3400. 2:25:49than me getting my nails swalled
  3401. 2:25:53I mean you want me to tell
  3402. 2:25:55you how to not be accused of a crime is
  3403. 2:25:59that what you're asking like I don't
  3404. 2:26:01know what you want I'm trying to prepare
  3405. 2:26:02myself for whatever may need to be done
  3406. 2:26:04so I can I stick it for
  3407. 2:26:08myself I mean I think you're doing just
  3408. 2:26:11fine you came you talked I just don't
  3409. 2:26:13want you guys to again show up and Lucas
  3410. 2:26:17is in the house
  3411. 2:26:21she's about to get her wish well we did
  3412. 2:26:23tell you yesterday that we don't want to
  3413. 2:26:25do anything around your son hence why
  3414. 2:26:27you came to us so I don't know why you
  3415. 2:26:30think that's going to change that and
  3416. 2:26:32Dora may not just show it back home I'm
  3417. 2:26:35sorry what that or what me just not show
  3418. 2:26:38up back
  3419. 2:26:39home that's what
  3420. 2:26:42all he's so happy that I'm staying over
  3421. 2:26:44the house Le BR like so happy and I'm
  3422. 2:26:48not going back to the house to my house
  3423. 2:26:50for however long I can stay over here
  3424. 2:26:52because of whatever to blow over
  3425. 2:26:55mhm and again if you don't mind me
  3426. 2:26:57asking so
  3427. 2:27:00for whatever it is you all
  3428. 2:27:02are claiming from the videos which yeah
  3429. 2:27:08it's is that what you're going to tell
  3430. 2:27:10him like his parents it's like oh yeah
  3431. 2:27:12and by the way she
  3432. 2:27:15did did what I mean what would you tell
  3433. 2:27:18him I don't think it really matters what
  3434. 2:27:20we're going to tell the parents oh yeah
  3435. 2:27:22it is it's steel to the
  3436. 2:27:23[Applause]
  3437. 2:27:25fire well we can't hide things and I
  3438. 2:27:29don't know I'm not saying we're going to
  3439. 2:27:32go I'm not saying that we're going to go
  3440. 2:27:35and tell them every single thing we have
  3441. 2:27:38um but again this is the Orange County
  3442. 2:27:42Sheriff's Office that's public record So
  3443. 2:27:43eventually like this all will come out
  3444. 2:27:46MH
  3445. 2:27:47so it like I'm not matter you're making
  3446. 2:27:50it sound like we're going to tell them
  3447. 2:27:51something so then your life is in danger
  3448. 2:27:54and I don't like that
  3449. 2:27:56accusation so let's just nip that in the
  3450. 2:27:59butt right now well that's what's going
  3451. 2:28:01to
  3452. 2:28:03happen I cannot I but we can't even but
  3453. 2:28:08so technically there's no
  3454. 2:28:10concrete report yet even right so so
  3455. 2:28:14it's um you want me to like tell you
  3456. 2:28:16exactly what I'm going to tell them I
  3457. 2:28:18don't know what I'm going to tell them I
  3458. 2:28:19don't know what I'm going to tell them
  3459. 2:28:19let's just leave it at that just like
  3460. 2:28:21you don't know why you went upstairs I
  3461. 2:28:22don't know what I'm going to tell them
  3462. 2:28:24so that are dealing with can I call you
  3463. 2:28:27the way that I did last
  3464. 2:28:29time yeah my phone is an open
  3465. 2:28:35line he should be here I don't know she
  3466. 2:28:39Tak we're getting close to the end here
  3467. 2:28:42I get it look I get
  3468. 2:28:47it that looks really bad
  3469. 2:28:51M so that's what scares me like what do
  3470. 2:28:55I need to plan on like what do I need to
  3471. 2:28:57plan
  3472. 2:28:58on I promise you on my son's
  3473. 2:29:03life it was not
  3474. 2:29:05intentional I promise you on Lucas's
  3475. 2:29:09life it was not
  3476. 2:29:12intentional I don't know you I can't say
  3477. 2:29:14I know anything about you I don't know
  3478. 2:29:16what is what would be a true statement
  3479. 2:29:19what would not I mean you're promising
  3480. 2:29:21on your son's life that's fine that's
  3481. 2:29:23how much it
  3482. 2:29:24means
  3483. 2:29:27sorry that's how much it
  3484. 2:29:29means
  3485. 2:29:31okay I hope you take that to heart
  3486. 2:29:38please it's documented that you said
  3487. 2:29:41that yeah I get
  3488. 2:29:47it do you have any idea when I can can
  3489. 2:29:50get my phone
  3490. 2:29:52back
  3491. 2:29:53tell what do you think I just said no
  3492. 2:29:56tell I mean our digital fics unit is uh
  3493. 2:30:01got a lot of cases on their plate I mean
  3494. 2:30:03well and that's not technically my
  3495. 2:30:05laptop it's Lucas's laptop but he plays
  3496. 2:30:07you'll see all the games that he has on
  3497. 2:30:10there as soon as we can get that back to
  3498. 2:30:12Lucas we will as soon as we can releas
  3499. 2:30:14your phone we will but there's we have
  3500. 2:30:17no way of being able to tell you because
  3501. 2:30:18we don't have control over their case
  3502. 2:30:21load and how they they arrange what they
  3503. 2:30:23do so I don't know and at this point I
  3504. 2:30:25think honestly with everything el else
  3505. 2:30:27that's going on that should probably be
  3506. 2:30:29at the bottom of your list of
  3507. 2:30:32worries I'm trying to make Lucas happy
  3508. 2:30:34so he can have his laptop
  3509. 2:30:36at
  3510. 2:30:38okay does Brian not have a laptop for
  3511. 2:30:41him he has his laptop that he has to do
  3512. 2:30:45for work but he doesn't want him using
  3513. 2:30:47it or breaking or dropping
  3514. 2:30:56it's not a big deal there's nothing on
  3515. 2:30:57the laptop
  3516. 2:30:59anyway it's a cough counter in the
  3517. 2:31:01bottom right hand
  3518. 2:31:04corner almost all the female
  3519. 2:31:13detective so you will keep me posted
  3520. 2:31:15like
  3521. 2:31:16updated
  3522. 2:31:18M they got update coming
  3523. 2:31:21soon that's my thing is I'm trying to
  3524. 2:31:23figure out what I need to do in the
  3525. 2:31:27meantime I don't know I can't like I
  3526. 2:31:30don't know what to tell you though like
  3527. 2:31:32what am I what but you all have more
  3528. 2:31:36information than I do where it's yeah
  3529. 2:31:38you might want to or yeah you might want
  3530. 2:31:39to I'm sorry would like we have more
  3531. 2:31:42information on what we told you
  3532. 2:31:45everything that we have you know
  3533. 2:31:46everything that we
  3534. 2:31:48know and most of it we got from
  3535. 2:31:51you but the
  3536. 2:31:55phone like I was telling her
  3537. 2:31:58like yeah that's bad like which I swore
  3538. 2:32:04in my son's life was not
  3539. 2:32:07intentional so that's why I'm trying to
  3540. 2:32:10figure out what I need to do for myself
  3541. 2:32:13okay going forward with this nonetheless
  3542. 2:32:17with his family nonetheless
  3543. 2:32:20and are you all just showing up with
  3544. 2:32:22Lucas and
  3545. 2:32:23M I think we've already both told you
  3546. 2:32:26that we would be money for with in these
  3547. 2:32:43situations so do you guys I guess you're
  3548. 2:32:45going to call me
  3549. 2:32:47tomorrow or do we need to come back down
  3550. 2:32:49here
  3551. 2:32:50I'll chart with you next
  3552. 2:32:53time I have no idea what I'm going to
  3553. 2:32:55call you
  3554. 2:32:57next uh isn't the report coming out
  3555. 2:32:59tomorrow no what report I'm just saying
  3556. 2:33:03a report is generated through us and the
  3557. 2:33:05sheriff's office is a public entity so
  3558. 2:33:08if someone were to come request
  3559. 2:33:09something then no I'm talking about um
  3560. 2:33:12his autopsy she's waiting and doing more
  3561. 2:33:15followup but she's looking at him again
  3562. 2:33:18yeah but she won't be finished with him
  3563. 2:33:20because she's she's pending for other
  3564. 2:33:27stuff so after this
  3565. 2:33:31what I'm done for
  3566. 2:33:47now how long does this stuff take to get
  3567. 2:33:52back most you won't get back the swads
  3568. 2:33:55and stuff will will
  3569. 2:33:58stay but I'll know about
  3570. 2:34:06it sorry our Dispatch Center keeps
  3571. 2:34:10calling my phone and I keep having to
  3572. 2:34:12have other people call them to see what
  3573. 2:34:13they need
  3574. 2:34:22I hope you all can really both truly
  3575. 2:34:24understand that that was not my
  3576. 2:34:27intent I miss him a
  3577. 2:34:31lot I mean
  3578. 2:34:34no but my question has remained the same
  3579. 2:34:39what do you expect to happen to somebody
  3580. 2:34:42when you leave them in the
  3581. 2:34:46position yes but you have to understand
  3582. 2:34:48too I just
  3583. 2:34:50what would you expect to happen to
  3584. 2:34:53somebody when you leave them in a
  3585. 2:34:55position I had no idea because I've
  3586. 2:34:56never done it
  3587. 2:34:59before why have you never done it before
  3588. 2:35:02why would I
  3589. 2:35:04exactly why do it before why did you do
  3590. 2:35:07it
  3591. 2:35:09now
  3592. 2:35:11I I clearly have said why
  3593. 2:35:16why no you don't know why you know that
  3594. 2:35:20it's not intentional but you don't know
  3595. 2:35:22why but that's
  3596. 2:35:25okay really I'm not trying to force you
  3597. 2:35:27to say something that you don't
  3598. 2:35:33know it's feeding and Penning
  3599. 2:35:56it's a game of who talks
  3600. 2:36:05first everybody has a phone but Sarah
  3601. 2:36:08fact that you guys would assume that I'm
  3602. 2:36:09that kind of
  3603. 2:36:11person we not assuming anything we're
  3604. 2:36:14going by the F [ __ ]
  3605. 2:36:17happened like you said don't know
  3606. 2:36:35me pretty sure they're playing Candy
  3607. 2:36:37Crush right now on their phone
  3608. 2:36:52what time is it please 4:46
  3609. 2:37:23the rest is coming in itself for me to
  3610. 2:37:26have to live
  3611. 2:37:28with getting him out and doing what I
  3612. 2:37:31did
  3613. 2:37:33is punishment
  3614. 2:37:36enough yep that's punishment is
  3615. 2:37:39enough nope I think that's why I haven't
  3616. 2:37:43slept cuz that's all I
  3617. 2:37:47see so that right there that is
  3618. 2:38:02something not my
  3619. 2:38:08intention is
  3620. 2:38:13text that would be
  3621. 2:38:17very like I lit heard the
  3622. 2:38:27cough counter is still going
  3623. 2:38:28up we're waiting for the DNA swab on our
  3624. 2:38:41fingernails nonetheless I have to live
  3625. 2:38:43without him now
  3626. 2:38:44nonetheless
  3627. 2:38:47nonetheless punishment in itself
  3628. 2:38:51[Music]
  3629. 2:38:56nonetheless definitely a a tragic
  3630. 2:39:01[Music]
  3631. 2:39:02situation I I'm through
  3632. 2:39:07alcohol and it's unfortunate
  3633. 2:39:11that stupid things like this happen
  3634. 2:39:15mhm absolutely
  3635. 2:39:24nonetheless nonetheless I have to live
  3636. 2:39:26it on now
  3637. 2:39:36mhm his daughter's
  3638. 2:39:41too are you trying to make it
  3639. 2:39:45worse sorry what are you trying to make
  3640. 2:39:47it worse make what
  3641. 2:39:50how I
  3642. 2:39:55feel she sorry that was there yesterday
  3643. 2:39:59I think she took your
  3644. 2:40:00photos yes Mar
  3645. 2:40:11[Applause]
  3646. 2:40:34[Applause]
  3647. 2:40:48all right
  3648. 2:40:51so I'm just going to take a swab and go
  3649. 2:40:52around on one hand and then do separate
  3650. 2:40:55ones for your other hand okay all these
  3651. 2:40:58swabs are going to test positive for
  3652. 2:40:59covid for the female detective who's
  3653. 2:41:01been coughing on everybody for the last
  3654. 2:41:03two
  3655. 2:41:11hours right
  3656. 2:41:24just pretend you're getting your nails
  3657. 2:41:28done contaminate that
  3658. 2:41:33swab hey welcome all you 13 jurors 13th
  3659. 2:41:36jurors welcome welcome appreciate you
  3660. 2:41:39popping
  3661. 2:41:41in we're completing we've got the uh the
  3662. 2:41:44Sarah cam going where we're watching her
  3663. 2:41:46face throughout the entire interview
  3664. 2:41:49this interview has been posted for a
  3665. 2:41:50while but we got the the footage of her
  3666. 2:41:52the entire interview with the camera
  3667. 2:41:54facing her so it gives us a little more
  3668. 2:41:57reaction and uh that's where're watching
  3669. 2:41:59that the number in the right hand corner
  3670. 2:42:00is a cough counter oops
  3671. 2:42:05whoa there we go
  3672. 2:42:3642 times she said
  3673. 2:42:38unintentional or not
  3674. 2:42:41intentional that claims seems to be her
  3675. 2:42:44defense
  3676. 2:42:49one hand down let's just package that
  3677. 2:42:50and label it
  3678. 2:43:12[Applause]
  3679. 2:43:29[Applause]
  3680. 2:43:31that one's bagged and tagged let's go
  3681. 2:43:32ahead and do the other hands now change
  3682. 2:43:35gloves just doing it proper
  3683. 2:43:39[Applause]
  3684. 2:43:53you to snap them you don't snap them it
  3685. 2:43:55doesn't
  3686. 2:44:03[Applause]
  3687. 2:44:07count hopefully the rubber gloves
  3688. 2:44:09doesn't give anybody in PTSD
  3689. 2:44:13[Applause]
  3690. 2:44:19[Music]
  3691. 2:44:26another
  3692. 2:45:03it's a very thorough process the
  3693. 2:45:05swabbing underneath the nails I think
  3694. 2:45:06they actually take a like a nail
  3695. 2:45:08clipping or a scraping from it as
  3696. 2:45:13well maybe it's just a
  3697. 2:45:16swab see if she changes tools here
  3698. 2:45:21oh they already got the the Buckle swabs
  3699. 2:45:23that's right they already got her DNA so
  3700. 2:45:24this is just going to be the swab under
  3701. 2:45:26the fingernails all over the crevices
  3702. 2:45:28around very thorough
  3703. 2:45:51[Music]
  3704. 2:46:02in her mind her purse is packed as soon
  3705. 2:46:04as this lady walks out the door she's
  3706. 2:46:06going to follow and leave she get in her
  3707. 2:46:08car and drive away
  3708. 2:46:10[Applause]
  3709. 2:46:20right hands date saroon in the bag it
  3710. 2:46:34goes all the
  3711. 2:46:37trash clipboards
  3712. 2:46:40[Applause]
  3713. 2:46:51that now they close the door
  3714. 2:46:56again okay
  3715. 2:47:01the okay
  3716. 2:47:04Sarah
  3717. 2:47:05so you're not free to go okay watch this
  3718. 2:47:10guy oh do you promise everything you
  3719. 2:47:12told us was the
  3720. 2:47:13truth or
  3721. 2:47:16no everything we've talked about to
  3722. 2:47:20yes got I he had to swear remember how I
  3723. 2:47:24sore you yesterday on the on the audio
  3724. 2:47:27recording I just forgot so he raised his
  3725. 2:47:29hand to remind me to tell you okay do
  3726. 2:47:31you promise and swear that everything we
  3727. 2:47:33talked about today has been true and
  3728. 2:47:34accurate to the best of your
  3729. 2:47:35knowledge for which sure accur it to the
  3730. 2:47:38best of your knowledge what that it
  3731. 2:47:40wasn't intentional everything you said
  3732. 2:47:42today everything that's come out of your
  3733. 2:47:44mouth has been true and accurate to the
  3734. 2:47:46best of your knowledge
  3735. 2:47:49to the best of my knowledge
  3736. 2:47:51correct yes why any we talk to somebody
  3737. 2:47:56we want to assure that everything that
  3738. 2:47:59we've talked about is true and accurate
  3739. 2:48:02to to that person's knowledge not a
  3740. 2:48:04trick question to the best of my
  3741. 2:48:06knowledge to the best of your knowledge
  3742. 2:48:07everything that you told us today is
  3743. 2:48:09true and accurate to the best of your
  3744. 2:48:10knowledge yes but it was not intentional
  3745. 2:48:13they got the yes okay
  3746. 2:48:17boom all right me if I stand
  3747. 2:48:20up I need you to turn around face the
  3748. 2:48:22wall put your hands behind your back do
  3749. 2:48:23you have anything in your pockets that I
  3750. 2:48:25should know about oh
  3751. 2:48:30okay why is this happening because
  3752. 2:48:33George's
  3753. 2:48:35dead not intentionally we understand
  3754. 2:48:38that he's still dead he's still dead
  3755. 2:48:40someone needs to call Brian please okay
  3756. 2:48:43or can I not make a phone call you'll be
  3757. 2:48:45able to make a phone call when we get
  3758. 2:48:47you down to the jail so why so this was
  3759. 2:48:50a trick no it's not ack how's a
  3760. 2:48:53trick in here to ask you to explain a
  3761. 2:48:57few things to us and you were read your
  3762. 2:49:00right your response to everything
  3763. 2:49:04was basically I didn't do it
  3764. 2:49:08intentionally do that doesn't matter
  3765. 2:49:10it's still
  3766. 2:49:12there me favor have a seat
  3767. 2:49:16[Music]
  3768. 2:49:21really
  3769. 2:49:24guys so I didn't show
  3770. 2:49:30up why is it
  3771. 2:49:32happing because before you all said I
  3772. 2:49:35could leave that I was done after this
  3773. 2:49:38after that we were done yes we were done
  3774. 2:49:41absolutely so now so that's what it is
  3775. 2:49:43we are
  3776. 2:49:45done right
  3777. 2:49:50not intentional okay so what am I
  3778. 2:49:53supposed to do
  3779. 2:49:56now you someone needs to call Brian okay
  3780. 2:50:00Lucas is waiting for Mom to come
  3781. 2:50:02home this was not my intention I thought
  3782. 2:50:05I was waiting for you all to come and
  3783. 2:50:07figure out what's what and how many
  3784. 2:50:09that's what we're trying to do and I was
  3785. 2:50:11going to be able to go home and see
  3786. 2:50:14Lucas now he's just not going to have me
  3787. 2:50:17come home so there's nothing that I can
  3788. 2:50:20do all right
  3789. 2:50:22no there's nothing that I can do in
  3790. 2:50:24order to go home and see Lucas and
  3791. 2:50:26prepare not right now
  3792. 2:50:28no you'll be afforded a time in court
  3793. 2:50:31you'll be afforded an attorney you'll be
  3794. 2:50:34afforded uh a chance to talk to a judge
  3795. 2:50:37and all that stuff will be worked out
  3796. 2:50:39but what's the time frame for that
  3797. 2:50:40though about three and a half years been
  3798. 2:50:43able to tell you you should make first
  3799. 2:50:44appearance probably like tomorrow
  3800. 2:50:46morning if not tonight depending how
  3801. 2:50:48busy how quickly you get down
  3802. 2:50:51there I don't it's just going to happen
  3803. 2:50:55and I need water like really bad
  3804. 2:51:05please abolutely did
  3805. 2:51:15not I just got those
  3806. 2:51:19okay they are not allowed in the
  3807. 2:51:22jail so I can't even smoke cigarette as
  3808. 2:51:24I
  3809. 2:51:28go what am
  3810. 2:51:32I she up what am I supposed to do with
  3811. 2:51:35my car it'll be fine where it is when
  3812. 2:51:39you get down there you'll have free
  3813. 2:51:40phones you'll be able to call what as
  3814. 2:51:43soon as possible yeah once you get down
  3815. 2:51:45in there get booked in you'll be able to
  3816. 2:51:47uh use a phone in the the how long will
  3817. 2:51:49that take cuz I need to talk to Brian
  3818. 2:51:52you know it depends how busy how quickly
  3819. 2:51:54they get you through probably say within
  3820. 2:51:56the
  3821. 2:51:57hour it's a free phone call in in the
  3822. 2:52:00lobby it's a free all I'm doing is bring
  3823. 2:52:01you there bring she has no clue so can I
  3824. 2:52:04ask you or whoever it
  3825. 2:52:08is um those holding cells the holding
  3826. 2:52:12cells am I going to be putting one of
  3827. 2:52:14those I don't know last time I had a
  3828. 2:52:15panic attack let them know that I don't
  3829. 2:52:18know you you're familiar with the big
  3830. 2:52:19Bay as long as you go in and you act to
  3831. 2:52:23them they'll set you in the Big Bay and
  3832. 2:52:25they'll be left there can you request
  3833. 2:52:27that while I'm there no that's not up to
  3834. 2:52:28us we don't work at the jail as long as
  3835. 2:52:30long as like he's saying if you don't
  3836. 2:52:31act if you go in and act like this
  3837. 2:52:33you'll go in and they'll put you in the
  3838. 2:52:35Big Bay if you go in there screaming and
  3839. 2:52:36kicking and yelling and cursing people I
  3840. 2:52:38don't know I'm just letting you know
  3841. 2:52:40that's what happens that's how they they
  3842. 2:52:42weed people out if you go in acting like
  3843. 2:52:44this so I ask for the Big Bay no they'll
  3844. 2:52:47put you there as long as you're acting
  3845. 2:52:48like this I yeah cuz the last time I had
  3846. 2:52:50a major pain of attacking little
  3847. 2:52:52things
  3848. 2:52:55the what am I going to do with my purse
  3849. 2:52:58okay your purse is going to come but the
  3850. 2:53:00cigarettes and stuff can't so go it's
  3851. 2:53:04just I put I put the lock up too my oh
  3852. 2:53:07no it's all good mine are not oppos
  3853. 2:53:11so what made you all decide to do
  3854. 2:53:14this made us decide to do this uhhuh
  3855. 2:53:17George's dad
  3856. 2:53:18[Music]
  3857. 2:53:20you guys I knew this was going to happen
  3858. 2:53:21you did okay so I can willingly yes
  3859. 2:53:28absolutely we were trying to figure out
  3860. 2:53:30what's going on we're still trying to
  3861. 2:53:31figure out
  3862. 2:53:33unintentionally intentional or not
  3863. 2:53:35George is
  3864. 2:53:41dead you act like when you say
  3865. 2:53:43unintentionally that absorbs you from
  3866. 2:53:44everything I need to get I have my I
  3867. 2:53:47don't know if the
  3868. 2:53:49able to be or not I
  3869. 2:53:51apologize I have things in my car that I
  3870. 2:53:54need
  3871. 2:53:55to
  3872. 2:53:57put what kind of stuff do you have in
  3873. 2:53:59your car that you're worried about well
  3874. 2:54:00I have my medication okay they have a
  3875. 2:54:05pharmacy there so if there's something
  3876. 2:54:07that you have to have right away you'll
  3877. 2:54:09be seeing a nurse panic attack up well
  3878. 2:54:11again when you get checked in you're
  3879. 2:54:13going to be seeing your
  3880. 2:54:15nurse and that they have a pharmacy
  3881. 2:54:17there so they be able to take care of
  3882. 2:54:19any kind of that stuff that protocol is
  3883. 2:54:21out of my realm I don't work down there
  3884. 2:54:24so I don't know but I do know they do
  3885. 2:54:25have a furn and that you will be
  3886. 2:54:28afforded to see
  3887. 2:54:30somebody
  3888. 2:54:35okay
  3889. 2:54:41my all right uh for your viewing
  3890. 2:54:44pleasure that was the entire
  3891. 2:54:45interrogation video uh this one was
  3892. 2:54:47redacted
  3893. 2:54:48um with little tiny bits of beeps and I
  3894. 2:54:51don't know why because i' I've heard the
  3895. 2:54:53entire thing
  3896. 2:54:54unredacted um and the parts they did
  3897. 2:54:56take out um just it seemed weird like
  3898. 2:55:00somebody accidentally bumped to the
  3899. 2:55:01button at different times it it didn't
  3900. 2:55:02seem uh it didn't seem like it was
  3901. 2:55:04redacted intentionally so maybe maybe
  3902. 2:55:07that's the case have they got a trial
  3903. 2:55:08for a date yet yeah um date for the
  3904. 2:55:10trial is uh what September October range
  3905. 2:55:13I think I I think we're still waiting on
  3906. 2:55:14a hearing to have it completely
  3907. 2:55:16solidified but that's coming up um I did
  3908. 2:55:20want to put that together just so you
  3909. 2:55:21would have the uh the Sarah cam so you
  3910. 2:55:23could see her face throughout the
  3911. 2:55:24interview and see her reaction and some
  3912. 2:55:27of the body language that's not always
  3913. 2:55:28clear on the top down view which some of
  3914. 2:55:30the other um live stream or the other
  3915. 2:55:32streams that that had so I want to give
  3916. 2:55:34you both views that
  3917. 2:55:35way um thank you for for sitting through
  3918. 2:55:38that I know a couple of you said this
  3919. 2:55:39the first time you've watched that and I
  3920. 2:55:40realized there there are other videos
  3921. 2:55:42that are out um that I'm not going to
  3922. 2:55:44show specifically it's the cell phone
  3923. 2:55:46video of the suitcase um it's bad enough
  3924. 2:55:49just listening to it being played in the
  3925. 2:55:50background um it's it's rough it's it's
  3926. 2:55:54going to be played in court um obviously
  3927. 2:55:56we're going to see it when that happens
  3928. 2:55:57I just uh it's it's everything you hear
  3929. 2:56:00and there's just more the the emotion is
  3930. 2:56:02more clear the sounds are more clear and
  3931. 2:56:04then seeing him struggle in the suitcase
  3932. 2:56:05is is more clear that's that's all there
  3933. 2:56:08is um on that one but it it's available
  3934. 2:56:10it is out there if you want to see it
  3935. 2:56:11I'm just not going to show it on this
  3936. 2:56:12channel um we'll probably show it when
  3937. 2:56:14when we follow the the trial it'll be
  3938. 2:56:16important to watch then but until then
  3939. 2:56:19we we won't let's see first time for
  3940. 2:56:21several of you that was awesome um we we
  3941. 2:56:24do have a new trial starting tomorrow um
  3942. 2:56:26I think Brandy and I are both covering
  3943. 2:56:27the same case so you get to choose where
  3944. 2:56:29you want to watch it um which is awesome
  3945. 2:56:31Brandy does a great job I know she's
  3946. 2:56:32going to do a better job on several
  3947. 2:56:34aspects than I will and maybe I might do
  3948. 2:56:35a better job in some areas than she does
  3949. 2:56:37so take your pick uh either one don't
  3950. 2:56:39feel bad wherever you go the the
  3951. 2:56:42internet is big enough for the both of
  3952. 2:56:43us um love her she's going to do great
  3953. 2:56:46and and so thank you let's let's see the
  3954. 2:56:49uh so that's going to be the uh the
  3955. 2:56:50widower Trail I think we've got jury
  3956. 2:56:52selection that starts
  3957. 2:56:54tomorrow let's see I think I think that
  3958. 2:56:56starts tomorrow for the widower Trail uh
  3959. 2:56:59what did she just get that they didn't
  3960. 2:57:01let her have cigarettes crafty she just
  3961. 2:57:02got a brand new pack of cigarettes like
  3962. 2:57:04on the way down and they're like oh
  3963. 2:57:06these can't go and they like threw them
  3964. 2:57:07away or something and she's like hey I
  3965. 2:57:09just bought those um yep you and and
  3966. 2:57:13she's not going to be allowed to have a
  3967. 2:57:14cigarette the the as she walks out of
  3968. 2:57:16this building the next thing that
  3969. 2:57:18happens is she's walked by that same
  3970. 2:57:20officer to the police car to be taken
  3971. 2:57:21down to the uh um to the jail and that
  3972. 2:57:24video of her walking out is was posted
  3973. 2:57:27on the sheriff's office um I think the
  3974. 2:57:29Twitter or Facebook account so you can
  3975. 2:57:31see that and that's where she says uh
  3976. 2:57:33are they supposed to be here and the
  3977. 2:57:34cameraman it was like the Sheriff's
  3978. 2:57:36Office cameraman and news reporters like
  3979. 2:57:37yeah we gave them a heads up it's it's a
  3980. 2:57:40free country they can film whatever they
  3981. 2:57:41want um so that's what happens
  3982. 2:57:43sequentially and then uh after that
  3983. 2:57:45she's in the jail
  3984. 2:57:49um that was the first interview watched
  3985. 2:57:52watched on Sarah there is one more
  3986. 2:57:53interview uh Selena and uh or there's
  3987. 2:57:56one more interaction it's body camera
  3988. 2:57:58interaction and it's the day of it's the
  3989. 2:58:00day that she calls the police and saying
  3990. 2:58:01you know George isn't breathing found
  3991. 2:58:03him in the
  3992. 2:58:04suitcase um a little bizarre a little
  3993. 2:58:07bizarre some of the same behavior that
  3994. 2:58:09we saw here that just doesn't register
  3995. 2:58:11as normal to the to most of us she does
  3996. 2:58:13as well like as the fire department's in
  3997. 2:58:16there checking the body and things she's
  3998. 2:58:17like hey can I go in and grab my my Dr
  3999. 2:58:19Pepper or can I grab a cigarette or I
  4000. 2:58:21really need to drink water um it she
  4001. 2:58:24just doesn't seem to be bothered by the
  4002. 2:58:25fact that someone's dead and she may
  4003. 2:58:27have caused it um and so that that's out
  4004. 2:58:30there as well it's a little bit uh
  4005. 2:58:32difficult to to follow sometimes but it
  4006. 2:58:34does introd introduce us to some of the
  4007. 2:58:36players it introduce introduces us to
  4008. 2:58:38Brian who is her ex who was on scene
  4009. 2:58:41before the police arrived she called him
  4010. 2:58:43first um and and he's like hey call the
  4011. 2:58:46cops don't don't don't get me in this
  4012. 2:58:48call the cops but uh but yeah that's a
  4013. 2:58:51good one it's it's not as long as this
  4014. 2:58:53of course are US prisons non-smoking
  4015. 2:58:56completely uh the prisons Peter it
  4016. 2:58:58depends there are some I've heard that
  4017. 2:59:00allow smoking for religious reasons um
  4018. 2:59:04as part of a religious ceremony um but I
  4019. 2:59:07don't I don't know if if that's I don't
  4020. 2:59:10know if they're all non-smoking other
  4021. 2:59:12than
  4022. 2:59:14that she was frantic the day of the
  4023. 2:59:16murder Cup video cam just crazy crazy
  4024. 2:59:18just crazy she found him in the suitcase
  4025. 2:59:21surprise surprise imagine my surprise
  4026. 2:59:23when he was still where I put
  4027. 2:59:25him um drinking from the garden hose was
  4028. 2:59:28something
  4029. 2:59:30else uh Mr Robert torso says since Boon
  4030. 2:59:32is delayed forever I hear Robin Netta in
  4031. 2:59:35Aurora Colorado is starting soon I've
  4032. 2:59:36been trying to get you to notice that
  4033. 2:59:37case because wow the outrageous lion
  4034. 2:59:40hits
  4035. 2:59:4111 um Colorado is actually one that's
  4036. 2:59:44fairly friendly for streaming um Mr
  4037. 2:59:48torso could you send me a text that says
  4038. 2:59:51Mr upper torso somewhere in it cuz I I'm
  4039. 2:59:53not sure if I've got you marked as that
  4040. 2:59:54in my in my burner phone and it helps me
  4041. 2:59:57to find the message but that information
  4042. 3:00:00and a and a quick text to the burner
  4043. 3:00:01phone I'll try to to hunt down what uh
  4044. 3:00:04what courtroom it's in what judge what
  4045. 3:00:06paperwork I need to do to line that
  4046. 3:00:08up we can look for that if that's
  4047. 3:00:10starting
  4048. 3:00:11soon there's also the call car car
  4049. 3:00:14interview of Boon later in the day I
  4050. 3:00:16think that was just a different officer
  4051. 3:00:18that arrived later and a different
  4052. 3:00:20camera I think it's sort of connected
  4053. 3:00:21time frame
  4054. 3:00:22wise um Brian must be counting the lucky
  4055. 3:00:26stars I think Brian is washing his hands
  4056. 3:00:28and trying to just get away from
  4057. 3:00:36it let's see yes the Dr Pepper that's
  4058. 3:00:40that's when the the fire departments
  4059. 3:00:42there on the on
  4060. 3:00:46scene yes Thomas Randolph retrial this
  4061. 3:00:48is a uh death penalty uh retrial where
  4062. 3:00:51he got a a redo on a death penalty
  4063. 3:00:54sentence smoking allowance is rare in
  4064. 3:00:56prison says Ivan Reds got rid of it
  4065. 3:00:59years ago it happens for sure just on
  4066. 3:01:01the down
  4067. 3:01:05low uh KT it's it's bugging me so bad
  4068. 3:01:08it's already it it has to go it's not
  4069. 3:01:10going to go much it's not going to Big
  4070. 3:01:11around much longer I think unless I can
  4071. 3:01:13trim it like on the inside the inside
  4072. 3:01:15corners of the lips or where it's just
  4073. 3:01:17it's tickles my my lips like I'm I'm
  4074. 3:01:20playing the trombone or something
  4075. 3:01:22and there's a reason I don't play brass
  4076. 3:01:25instruments or clarinet or anything else
  4077. 3:01:27the buzzing would just drive me nuts I
  4078. 3:01:29can barely play the
  4079. 3:01:31harmonica uh Janice says love our
  4080. 3:01:33community here thank you so much Janice
  4081. 3:01:34appreciate the Super Chat wonderful
  4082. 3:01:36having you here would not be the same
  4083. 3:01:37without
  4084. 3:01:38you um let see the stream ended so fast
  4085. 3:01:42th say I was trying to tell her nothing
  4086. 3:01:43was going on didn't have a chance to
  4087. 3:01:44tell her about the other channels oh
  4088. 3:01:46that's Aztec art okay
  4089. 3:01:49what's the worst that could
  4090. 3:01:54happen all these interviews are going to
  4091. 3:01:56be played at a trial um which is coming
  4092. 3:01:58up soon it really is it's coming
  4093. 3:02:02soon Tennessee sells Vape pipes in jail
  4094. 3:02:06didn't know
  4095. 3:02:11that o a cancer scam in that one
  4096. 3:02:20who okay hang on hang on I need this one
  4097. 3:02:23right here sound bite tickles my lips no
  4098. 3:02:25no no please
  4099. 3:02:27don't you guys grab the worst possible
  4100. 3:02:30stuff to put in sound
  4101. 3:02:32bites can do a quick uh
  4102. 3:02:43screenshot did the background info did I
  4103. 3:02:46background info on the new new trial
  4104. 3:02:48when we were going to be covering might
  4105. 3:02:49have been in a meeting because I'm here
  4106. 3:02:51all day um you didn't miss that uh Gone
  4107. 3:02:53Girl uh we're we're probably going to do
  4108. 3:02:55it tomorrow as they're starting jury
  4109. 3:02:57selection are we done for the day um
  4110. 3:02:59unless we can find a police chase or
  4111. 3:03:01something interesting today I don't want
  4112. 3:03:02to start another trial uh when we have a
  4113. 3:03:05big one starting
  4114. 3:03:06tomorrow um so unless you have a Q&A
  4115. 3:03:09that want you want some answers on
  4116. 3:03:10Pauline 7 months can't believe it's been
  4117. 3:03:12seven uh it's been wonderful Pauline
  4118. 3:03:15Seven wonderful months thank you so much
  4119. 3:03:16for your support don't think I could do
  4120. 3:03:18this without without you and and other
  4121. 3:03:21great addicts like you that really made
  4122. 3:03:23it this all
  4123. 3:03:27possible let's
  4124. 3:03:32see that's
  4125. 3:03:35surprises courtroom hopping Melissa is
  4126. 3:03:38up for it we might have um since we're
  4127. 3:03:40done with our counter we ended up with
  4128. 3:03:42the a counter let me just show you one
  4129. 3:03:43more time oh sorry it was 168 168 coughs
  4130. 3:03:47in that one which was a lot a lot of
  4131. 3:03:50coughing for
  4132. 3:03:58sure let's see if judge Boyd is is up
  4133. 3:04:00with her trial
  4134. 3:04:04yet she's on let's see what we've got
  4135. 3:04:07here you
  4136. 3:04:09using and what is the father Mr
  4137. 3:04:12Bloodworth what is he using uh
  4138. 3:04:16nothing your brother
  4139. 3:04:18I find that people we don't we don't
  4140. 3:04:21live together we both share custody of
  4141. 3:04:23my kids they live with me and then they
  4142. 3:04:26live with their dad okay she's joint
  4143. 3:04:28custody CH out you're being very
  4144. 3:04:30dishonest and slippery with me because I
  4145. 3:04:33asked you my mind is a steel trap but I
  4146. 3:04:36wanted to court reporter to read back
  4147. 3:04:38because maybe my mind is failing but I
  4148. 3:04:40highly doubt that you told me that your
  4149. 3:04:44children were living with you and their
  4150. 3:04:46father and you said the other father
  4151. 3:04:49don't he's not a part of anything now
  4152. 3:04:51you're telling me Oh no he doesn't live
  4153. 3:04:54with me it's on and off you've been
  4154. 3:04:56dishonest with me from the very
  4155. 3:04:58beginning you were dishonest when I
  4156. 3:05:00asked you if you're going to be positive
  4157. 3:05:01you were dishonest about that then you
  4158. 3:05:03were dishonest about Bloodworth I don't
  4159. 3:05:06even know if this is this person's real
  4160. 3:05:08name or not then you were dishonest
  4161. 3:05:12about Sarabia at first you and later you
  4162. 3:05:15said he was the father of your children
  4163. 3:05:17now he's not the father of your children
  4164. 3:05:18you're just being dishonest all across
  4165. 3:05:21the board with the court and I don't
  4166. 3:05:22appreciate it and dishonesty has nothing
  4167. 3:05:25to do with nerves you heard my questions
  4168. 3:05:27my questions were very
  4169. 3:05:33specific all right this is what the
  4170. 3:05:35court is going to
  4171. 3:05:36do gonna find you guilty I'm going to
  4172. 3:05:40recall the
  4173. 3:05:41warrant I'm going to sentence you to two
  4174. 3:05:43years in the state jail facility suspend
  4175. 3:05:46it and probate it for four years there's
  4176. 3:05:49to be no unsupervised
  4177. 3:05:54contact with
  4178. 3:05:57miners is CPS involved in your life no
  4179. 3:06:01well I mean why you saying no like they
  4180. 3:06:03should be you're using meth and you're
  4181. 3:06:05taking care of children CPS should be
  4182. 3:06:07involved in your life so I'm gonna want
  4183. 3:06:09CPS
  4184. 3:06:11compliance if CPS is involved in her
  4185. 3:06:14life I don't know if they're they are or
  4186. 3:06:16not she's been dishonest with the
  4187. 3:06:19I'm going to want the UA
  4188. 3:06:21hotline until further
  4189. 3:06:24notice intensive parenting
  4190. 3:06:30classes I'm going to want fi
  4191. 3:06:33visits she's random throwing the book at
  4192. 3:06:36her one time per month until further
  4193. 3:06:39notice please check on the children
  4194. 3:06:43there's to be no
  4195. 3:06:45contact with the person who she's saying
  4196. 3:06:48may or may not be the child's father
  4197. 3:06:50there to be no contact with Nicholas
  4198. 3:06:56Anthony Sarabia and that means if he's
  4199. 3:06:59at the Bear County jail and he calls you
  4200. 3:07:02and you know it's coming from the jail
  4201. 3:07:03because they're going to ask you if
  4202. 3:07:04you'll accept the collect call you need
  4203. 3:07:06to hang up because otherwise I'm going
  4204. 3:07:07to count that as contact and it's easy
  4205. 3:07:10to see if that's happening because they
  4206. 3:07:11keep a record of every phone call from
  4207. 3:07:13the jail do you understand there's to be
  4208. 3:07:15no contact with William
  4209. 3:07:18Clark
  4210. 3:07:22Gordon there's to be regular
  4211. 3:07:25reporting by Zoom or in
  4212. 3:07:28person proof of
  4213. 3:07:32employment within 30 days there's to be
  4214. 3:07:35no employment as a home health care
  4215. 3:07:37provider or with
  4216. 3:07:40minors taking consideration nightm
  4217. 3:07:43number 71
  4218. 3:07:456819 and Britney if you could do the uh
  4219. 3:07:49rejection for me on that case all
  4220. 3:07:52right all right it's nightm number seven
  4221. 3:07:571
  4222. 3:07:596819 grand jury number
  4223. 3:08:0378
  4224. 3:08:055613 JN number
  4225. 3:08:09209771
  4226. 3:08:126 200 hours of community service
  4227. 3:08:14restitution those will not be waved
  4228. 3:08:21tap
  4229. 3:08:22evaluation and once the tap evaluation
  4230. 3:08:25is complete she's going to start with
  4231. 3:08:27intensive Outpatient
  4232. 3:08:31Treatment and the
  4233. 3:08:34court is noting for the record that
  4234. 3:08:36she's agreed she was acting as a
  4235. 3:08:43party wow this is with William Gordon
  4236. 3:08:50and
  4237. 3:08:52Nicholas
  4238. 3:08:54Sarabia the lawyer didn't do anything
  4239. 3:08:56wrong probation is there anything else
  4240. 3:08:57she needs the client was lying to the
  4241. 3:08:59judge and that's why she's throwing the
  4242. 3:09:01book oh and I'm sorry there is to be
  4243. 3:09:04restitution if
  4244. 3:09:06any to Cal Bernie k y l e b o r n e is
  4245. 3:09:12there anything else you need from the
  4246. 3:09:13court to be
  4247. 3:09:15successful I'm sorry I don't think um I
  4248. 3:09:20think everything sounds like it's going
  4249. 3:09:21to help okay going to show you what's
  4250. 3:09:23entitled trial court
  4251. 3:09:25certification of defendants rights to
  4252. 3:09:29appeal did you review that with your
  4253. 3:09:31attorney did you understand it and did
  4254. 3:09:33you sign it because this is a plea
  4255. 3:09:35bargain agreement because I followed
  4256. 3:09:37your plea bargaining agreement and
  4257. 3:09:39because you wave your right to appeal
  4258. 3:09:40you do not have the Court's permission
  4259. 3:09:41to appeal do you
  4260. 3:09:43understand because this is a felony
  4261. 3:09:45conviction you're not allowed to own
  4262. 3:09:47possess any weapons or ammunition if you
  4263. 3:09:50have a question over what a weapon or
  4264. 3:09:51ammunition is you need to speak to an
  4265. 3:09:53attorney do you understand all right we
  4266. 3:09:55can go off the Record here's the thing
  4267. 3:09:57your children are depending on you to
  4268. 3:09:59raise them and they cannot be raised by
  4269. 3:10:02you if you are using drugs and the
  4270. 3:10:05people that you bring into your
  4271. 3:10:06children's life should be people who are
  4272. 3:10:08not using drugs do you understand all
  4273. 3:10:10right good luck to
  4274. 3:10:13you she was sentenced to two years but
  4275. 3:10:15it's waved or it's it's sort of like
  4276. 3:10:19it's held she doesn't go straight to
  4277. 3:10:21jail she's she's still out of jail but
  4278. 3:10:23she has a whole list of things she has
  4279. 3:10:25to O obey honly don't can and then nor
  4280. 3:10:28after that we'll take up the other
  4281. 3:10:29matter so she'll end up in
  4282. 3:10:32jail and it is
  4283. 3:10:34on Jose stto
  4284. 3:10:38Victorino all right thank
  4285. 3:10:41you oh
  4286. 3:10:44okay I'm with all right just give us a
  4287. 3:10:48moment okay thank you so much they
  4288. 3:10:50bringing him
  4289. 3:10:52up Nicole uh heard about your son I'm so
  4290. 3:10:55sorry um it's good to have you back I
  4291. 3:10:58hope everything goes well with him I
  4292. 3:11:00realize that is all right who's here on
  4293. 3:11:02Jennifer Cano that is no fun no fun at
  4294. 3:11:08all where's Jennifer Keno hi Jo she's on
  4295. 3:11:12her way uh we had lost communication
  4296. 3:11:15with her we informed her of this court
  4297. 3:11:16date uh she communicated with my office
  4298. 3:11:18this morning that she's here could we
  4299. 3:11:21get this recalled for another day no no
  4300. 3:11:23all right we're gonna go on the record
  4301. 3:11:25ctis calling 2023 CR
  4302. 3:11:286019 state of Texas versus Jennifer Cano
  4303. 3:11:31can I see someone for the
  4304. 3:11:34state for the last one she's in a bad
  4305. 3:11:37news sh lock for Jennifer Connell all
  4306. 3:11:40right this hearing was scheduled at
  4307. 3:11:4111:15 a.m. it is now 9:00 a.m. your
  4308. 3:11:45client has not appeared in court Deputy
  4309. 3:11:48lur did you make an announcement
  4310. 3:11:50yes Council where's your client I'm not
  4311. 3:11:53sure your honor uh
  4312. 3:11:56so she's communicated with my office
  4313. 3:11:59that that she would be on her way uh and
  4314. 3:12:03so we would ask that uh this be
  4315. 3:12:06recalled for another time State St would
  4316. 3:12:09be requesting all right that'll be
  4317. 3:12:11granted your client will be remanded
  4318. 3:12:13without bond if your client makes an
  4319. 3:12:14appearance the court will reconsider
  4320. 3:12:17here you're
  4321. 3:12:20welcome
  4322. 3:12:22man yeah that last defendant is probably
  4323. 3:12:25screwed everybody in this courtroom
  4324. 3:12:28yeah you don't you don't in the judges
  4325. 3:12:31weedies and then expect him David Alan
  4326. 3:12:37Martin okay Patrick
  4327. 3:12:42Sanchez State said they were going down
  4328. 3:12:45to and he's custody as well all right Mr
  4329. 3:12:47Sanchez come
  4330. 3:12:52down all right what is happening with
  4331. 3:12:54this case so I confir briefly with the
  4332. 3:12:56state this is my first setting on this
  4333. 3:13:00individual and so I was recently
  4334. 3:13:02assigned to it it looks like he was I
  4335. 3:13:05believe just released from State
  4336. 3:13:06Hospital about a month and or recently I
  4337. 3:13:09think he was in the state hospital for
  4338. 3:13:10about a month and a half waiting about
  4339. 3:13:1118 months to get there okay I've
  4340. 3:13:14conferred with um State requested
  4341. 3:13:17Discovery my review appears there's
  4342. 3:13:19still quite a bit um missing all right
  4343. 3:13:23Miss Ferguson on this case recall it in
  4344. 3:13:26two weeks for a discovery and we'll see
  4345. 3:13:28where we are thank you CH what
  4346. 3:13:33date Brandy get some
  4347. 3:13:35rest 2 all right we're on the windows
  4348. 3:13:40make it nice and quiet all right we'll
  4349. 3:13:41see you then close your
  4350. 3:13:45eyes Maybe
  4351. 3:13:50profen
  4352. 3:13:56yes who's here on Tyler
  4353. 3:14:06small all right where's your client he's
  4354. 3:14:09in C Cody in K County right now
  4355. 3:14:12okay all right Norma where's your client
  4356. 3:14:15this is for sentencing
  4357. 3:14:18it's not a new number one just for the
  4358. 3:14:20record jge so he's in Kell County so we
  4359. 3:14:24need to have him by zoom in colal County
  4360. 3:14:27if they do
  4361. 3:14:32that so what we'll do is we'll reset it
  4362. 3:14:36yes
  4363. 3:14:43Ma and Norma on this although I know
  4364. 3:14:46it's going take longer can you just
  4365. 3:14:48reset it for two weeks and see where we
  4366. 3:14:51are all right so we'll come back on
  4367. 3:14:54August 24th and hopefully we'll be able
  4368. 3:14:56to have him by zoom and if there's if
  4369. 3:14:58anything changes judge as far as him
  4370. 3:15:00getting released because it was supposed
  4371. 3:15:01to be a time sered thing I'll get what
  4372. 3:15:03Norman said up sooner okay all right
  4373. 3:15:05thank you thank you
  4374. 3:15:07judge sorry judge I'm here now all right
  4375. 3:15:10who's your
  4376. 3:15:12client David Allen Martin all right
  4377. 3:15:14David Allen Martin
  4378. 3:15:20what's oh just give me a second
  4379. 3:15:25okay rep is calling 2023 CR 487 state of
  4380. 3:15:30Texas versus David Allen Martin did I
  4381. 3:15:34have the parties announced for the
  4382. 3:15:35record for the state sty Harrington for
  4383. 3:15:38the defense Anthony Kell are you David
  4384. 3:15:40Allen Martin yes ma' Council have you
  4385. 3:15:43received all the discovery in this case
  4386. 3:15:45and did you review it with your client I
  4387. 3:15:46did
  4388. 3:15:47Court will find that the status in
  4389. 3:15:49compliance with
  4390. 3:15:54Discovery Mr Bon I'm going to show you
  4391. 3:15:56what's entitled true bill of indictment
  4392. 3:15:58did you review that with your attorney
  4393. 3:16:00did you understand it council do you
  4394. 3:16:02wave the reading of the indictment yes
  4395. 3:16:04you are state are you proceeding on the
  4396. 3:16:06indictment as presentent yes judge oh no
  4397. 3:16:09I'm sorry judge um this is
  4398. 3:16:114087 yes state is proceeding uh solely
  4399. 3:16:15on count one uh waving and abandoning
  4400. 3:16:18all remaining counts and there are do
  4401. 3:16:20you have both cost numbers we just doing
  4402. 3:16:22one at a time no I'm going to go to that
  4403. 3:16:24first one that one next I just want to
  4404. 3:16:26make sure we have this one no problem so
  4405. 3:16:28you're waving counts two through 13
  4406. 3:16:31that's correct judge any objection no
  4407. 3:16:39objections and then the next case is
  4408. 3:16:422023 CR
  4409. 3:16:45488 state of Texas versus David Allan
  4410. 3:16:48Martin Council have you received all the
  4411. 3:16:50discovery in that case I have your court
  4412. 3:16:53will find that the state is in
  4413. 3:16:54compliance with Discovery in that cause
  4414. 3:16:58number Mr Martin in that case I'm
  4415. 3:17:00showing you what's entitled true bill of
  4416. 3:17:02indictment did you review that with your
  4417. 3:17:03attorney did you understand it council
  4418. 3:17:06do you wave the reading of the
  4419. 3:17:07indictment I do state are you proceeding
  4420. 3:17:09on the indictment as presentent no judge
  4421. 3:17:11state is proceeding solely on count one
  4422. 3:17:14and waving and abandoning the remaining
  4423. 3:17:15counts no objection
  4424. 3:17:17okay so count two through five are waved
  4425. 3:17:20without objection sunshing girl welcome
  4426. 3:17:23love to see that yellow Courthouse by
  4427. 3:17:24your name that's at least six months at
  4428. 3:17:26least six months Mr Martin in each of
  4429. 3:17:28the cause numbers I'm showing you what's
  4430. 3:17:30entitled CT admonishments and defendants
  4431. 3:17:31waivers and Affidavit of admonitions did
  4432. 3:17:34you review those documents with your
  4433. 3:17:35attorney did you understand it and did
  4434. 3:17:37you sign them in all the appropriate
  4435. 3:17:40places and the cause number ending in
  4436. 3:17:424087 you're charged with the offense of
  4437. 3:17:45promotion of child pornography is a
  4438. 3:17:47second deegree felony the range of
  4439. 3:17:48punishment is anywhere from 2 to 20
  4440. 3:17:50years in prison and up to $10,000 fine
  4441. 3:17:53and the cause number ending in 4088
  4442. 3:17:56you're charged with sexual assault of a
  4443. 3:17:57child the range of punishment for that
  4444. 3:17:59offense is anywhere from 2 to 20 years
  4445. 3:18:01in prison and a possible fine of $10,000
  4446. 3:18:04did you understand and each cause number
  4447. 3:18:07if you have a ple bargain agreement with
  4448. 3:18:09the state the court does not have to
  4449. 3:18:10follow your plea if for any reason the
  4450. 3:18:12court doesn't follow your plea and gives
  4451. 3:18:14you more than you bargain for the fact
  4452. 3:18:15that you enter a plea will not be used
  4453. 3:18:17against you and you will be allowed to
  4454. 3:18:18withdraw your plea did you understand
  4455. 3:18:21did you understand you have a right to
  4456. 3:18:22jury trial a right for you or your
  4457. 3:18:24attorney to cost examine and confront
  4458. 3:18:26any Witnesses the state would call and
  4459. 3:18:28the right to remain
  4460. 3:18:29silent did you understand by entering
  4461. 3:18:31into these plea bargain agreements you
  4462. 3:18:33were giving up those rights I do and
  4463. 3:18:35were did you intend to give up those
  4464. 3:18:37rights and enter into a plea in each of
  4465. 3:18:39these cause
  4466. 3:18:40numbers councelor has your client been
  4467. 3:18:42able to provide you with any defenses
  4468. 3:18:44yes your H do you believe he has a
  4469. 3:18:46rational as well as a factual
  4470. 3:18:48understanding of the charges against him
  4471. 3:18:50yes your honor do you believe he's
  4472. 3:18:51currently competent was legally saying
  4473. 3:18:53at the time of the offense yes your
  4474. 3:18:54honor Mr Martin in each of the cause
  4475. 3:18:56numbers has anyone threatened you
  4476. 3:18:57coerced you or placed you in fear to get
  4477. 3:18:58you to enter this plea has anyone
  4478. 3:19:01promised you anything other than the
  4479. 3:19:02plea are you satisfied with the way
  4480. 3:19:04you've been represented are you a US
  4481. 3:19:06citizen yes ma'am all right you're gonna
  4482. 3:19:08have to keep your voice up so I can hear
  4483. 3:19:11yes
  4484. 3:19:12ma' uh in each cause number the court
  4485. 3:19:14will find that defendant has norly
  4486. 3:19:16involuntarily waved his right to jury
  4487. 3:19:17trial in each cause number I'm showing
  4488. 3:19:19you the ple bargain page did you review
  4489. 3:19:20that with your attorney did you
  4490. 3:19:22understand it yes ma'am in each cause
  4491. 3:19:24number the state is requesting that your
  4492. 3:19:26punishment be assessed at 10 years in
  4493. 3:19:29the prison there's a $2,000 fine there
  4494. 3:19:32are no applications the C numbers will
  4495. 3:19:34run concurrently state will take in
  4496. 3:19:36consideration
  4497. 3:19:372023 CR
  4498. 3:19:404144 2023 CR
  4499. 3:19:434143 and there's to be chapter 62
  4500. 3:19:46compliance in each cause number did you
  4501. 3:19:48understand that to be the plee yes ma'am
  4502. 3:19:49defense yes your honor State yes your
  4503. 3:19:51honor and each cause number I'm showing
  4504. 3:19:53you the wave of appeal paragraph did you
  4505. 3:19:54review that paragraph with your attorney
  4506. 3:19:56did you understand it did you sign it in
  4507. 3:19:58both places did you understand by
  4508. 3:20:00signing that you waving your right to
  4509. 3:20:01appeal the only items that can be
  4510. 3:20:03appealed are written pre-trial motions
  4511. 3:20:05that have been filed heard and ruled
  4512. 3:20:06upon by the court did you understand yes
  4513. 3:20:08ma'am councel are there have any such
  4514. 3:20:09motions no y next I'm showing you
  4515. 3:20:11outside the plea bargain agreement
  4516. 3:20:13there's to be no contact with the
  4517. 3:20:15complainant did you understand that was
  4518. 3:20:17a recommendation from the state and the
  4519. 3:20:18court does not have to follow that
  4520. 3:20:21recommendation then in count one ending
  4521. 3:20:23in the cause number 4088 how do you
  4522. 3:20:25plead guilty not guilty or no
  4523. 3:20:27contest
  4524. 3:20:30guilty and cause number ending in 487 to
  4525. 3:20:33count one how do you plead guilty not
  4526. 3:20:35guilty or no contest guilty State any
  4527. 3:20:38evidence to support the defendants pleas
  4528. 3:20:40of guilty State offer States iFit one
  4529. 3:20:42and all attachments in each cost number
  4530. 3:20:45no objections in each cause number I'm
  4531. 3:20:47showing you what's entitled wavering
  4532. 3:20:48consent to stipulation of testimony and
  4533. 3:20:50stipulations did you review those
  4534. 3:20:52documents with your attorney did you
  4535. 3:20:54understand them and did you sign them in
  4536. 3:20:56all the appropriate places yes ma'am
  4537. 3:20:58again did you understand you have a
  4538. 3:20:59right to jury trial a right for you or
  4539. 3:21:01your attorney to cross-examine and
  4540. 3:21:03confront any Witnesses the state would
  4541. 3:21:05call and the right to remain solent yes
  4542. 3:21:08did you understand that today the state
  4543. 3:21:09will be presenting evidence in the form
  4544. 3:21:11of witnesses statements and police
  4545. 3:21:13reports but most importantly there will
  4546. 3:21:14be no live testimony did you stand yes
  4547. 3:21:17ma'am in each cause number the court
  4548. 3:21:19will find that defendant has knowly
  4549. 3:21:20involuntarily waved and consented to
  4550. 3:21:22stipulation of testimony and
  4551. 3:21:23stipulations Court will accept into
  4552. 3:21:25evidence States exhibits wanting
  4553. 3:21:27attachments and review the
  4554. 3:21:30same just to note for the judge
  4555. 3:21:33stipulations are the same in each C all
  4556. 3:21:35right thank you so
  4557. 3:21:37much American Girl uh click on the link
  4558. 3:21:40that shows up after after somebody types
  4559. 3:21:42gifts in chat and make sure the button
  4560. 3:21:45is slid slid to the right
  4561. 3:21:47on your
  4562. 3:21:48screen let's let that's
  4563. 3:21:51my I am I pointing to the left for you
  4564. 3:21:54or to the right I don't know it should
  4565. 3:21:57be slid to the
  4566. 3:22:06right Samantha thanks for for mentioning
  4567. 3:22:08this we do have a couple new hoodie
  4568. 3:22:10designs um as well as some T-shirts some
  4569. 3:22:11tank tops um I think even we have some
  4570. 3:22:14stickers in there um that uh the feature
  4571. 3:22:17of the courthouse and the courthouse
  4572. 3:22:18color progression schedule so uh do uh
  4573. 3:22:22do go check that out see if there's
  4574. 3:22:23anything on there that you like if you
  4575. 3:22:24don't see something you like and and you
  4576. 3:22:26would like uh something uh created very
  4577. 3:22:28specific uh reach out to me on the
  4578. 3:22:29burner phone let me know what it is
  4579. 3:22:31you're looking for and we might be able
  4580. 3:22:32to get it for
  4581. 3:22:34you see I'm pointing the wrong way so I
  4582. 3:22:36say right this way because that's my
  4583. 3:22:38left I'm I'm using my right hand to
  4584. 3:22:40point to the left
  4585. 3:22:49Ivan you're you're breaking up a little
  4586. 3:22:51bit I can't quite hear what you're
  4587. 3:22:52saying
  4588. 3:22:54there oh man all right and each calls
  4589. 3:22:57number at the review and States exhibits
  4590. 3:22:58one in attachments the court will find
  4591. 3:23:00there sufficient evidence to find you
  4592. 3:23:02guilty and each cause number the court
  4593. 3:23:04will find you guilty are you proceeding
  4594. 3:23:06with sentencing yes you're
  4595. 3:23:08onor uh State have you spoken with the
  4596. 3:23:11complainant yes and is she aware of this
  4597. 3:23:14she is Judge she's actually currently in
  4598. 3:23:17uh
  4599. 3:23:18Juvenile Detention okay um she um
  4600. 3:23:23received a tempering with evidence case
  4601. 3:23:25and we're actually trying to get her
  4602. 3:23:27treatment at this time judge um so she
  4603. 3:23:31is aware all right is there anything
  4604. 3:23:33you'd like to say on behalf of your
  4605. 3:23:34client no joh we just ask the court
  4606. 3:23:36follow the all right what would you like
  4607. 3:23:38to
  4608. 3:23:44say I have anything to say I'm sorry I
  4609. 3:23:47cannot hear you you need to speak up I'm
  4610. 3:23:49sorry for my actions man oh are you
  4611. 3:23:51sorry for your actions or is because
  4612. 3:23:53your attorney told you to say you're
  4613. 3:23:54sorry I'm sorry from my actions I
  4614. 3:23:57just just a
  4615. 3:23:59lot are you married lot
  4616. 3:24:01of I'm planning on getting
  4617. 3:24:05married who are you getting married to
  4618. 3:24:07does she know about this case I'm sorry
  4619. 3:24:11she's in the courtroom ah so she knows
  4620. 3:24:13that you she know were having sex with
  4621. 3:24:16underage child honest I'm sorry
  4622. 3:24:21what and she still wants to be with
  4623. 3:24:24you do you have any
  4624. 3:24:27children I do
  4625. 3:24:34not all right and I see that the child
  4626. 3:24:37was
  4627. 3:24:3916 well I mean not you believe so in the
  4628. 3:24:41police report it says that she told you
  4629. 3:24:43she was 16
  4630. 3:24:46tell me anything I think he found out
  4631. 3:24:48after the
  4632. 3:24:50fact he found out while they were
  4633. 3:24:52together yes okay so you
  4634. 3:25:01knew and the person you're with who's
  4635. 3:25:04here to be with you and support you does
  4636. 3:25:07she have children no ma'am and how old
  4637. 3:25:10is she she's
  4638. 3:25:1434 complain it as well she was there
  4639. 3:25:17during this whole time H what is her
  4640. 3:25:20name she's in the police report Lauren
  4641. 3:25:25MWI let me find her in the police
  4642. 3:25:30report this judge is not M Lauren l a u
  4643. 3:25:33r n that's correct judge and how do you
  4644. 3:25:36spell the last
  4645. 3:25:37name I might chop it at Miss switch S I
  4646. 3:25:42believe I he in one of the reports all
  4647. 3:25:46let me see if I can find her do you know
  4648. 3:25:47how to spell her last name um
  4649. 3:25:51it's
  4650. 3:25:53m you like me to loc it for you judge
  4651. 3:25:55yes
  4652. 3:26:06please thank
  4653. 3:26:11you all right it's Lauren Elizabeth and
  4654. 3:26:15the last name is m s c h w
  4655. 3:26:20TZ and she's there in
  4656. 3:26:23court all right and so she's the person
  4657. 3:26:26who wanted to have a threesome with the
  4658. 3:26:28underage person
  4659. 3:26:31correct I'm sorry it was both
  4660. 3:26:35of all right wow and calls number 4088
  4661. 3:26:40the court is going to find you
  4662. 3:26:42guilty the court will sentence you to 10
  4663. 3:26:45years in the prison
  4664. 3:26:46there's a $2,000 fine time and money
  4665. 3:26:50will not run
  4666. 3:26:52concurrent this will run concurrent with
  4667. 3:26:552023 CR
  4668. 3:26:58487 take in consideration 2023 CR
  4669. 3:27:054144 2023 CR
  4670. 3:27:094143 there's chapter
  4671. 3:27:1262
  4672. 3:27:13compliance no contact with the following
  4673. 3:27:17the
  4674. 3:27:21complainant and
  4675. 3:27:23Lauren
  4676. 3:27:26Elizabeth he did not like
  4677. 3:27:29that he just ordered she just ordered no
  4678. 3:27:31contct any time served with his fiance
  4679. 3:27:34so your relationship with her is over do
  4680. 3:27:36you understand
  4681. 3:27:39boom uh Miss mwit if you're not on the
  4682. 3:27:42docket you can leave the courtroom
  4683. 3:27:43because your relationship with Mr Martin
  4684. 3:27:45is over
  4685. 3:27:46and cause number
  4686. 3:27:484087 the court is going to sentence you
  4687. 3:27:50to 10 years in the prison give you
  4688. 3:27:52credit for any time served there's a
  4689. 3:27:54$2,000 fine time and money will not run
  4690. 3:27:57concurrent this will run concurrent with
  4691. 3:28:012023 CR
  4692. 3:28:05488 taking consideration 2023 CR
  4693. 3:28:114144 2023 CR 4143
  4694. 3:28:16chapter 62
  4695. 3:28:19registration there's to be no
  4696. 3:28:22contact with the
  4697. 3:28:24complainant and no contact with
  4698. 3:28:28Lauren
  4699. 3:28:31Elizabeth
  4700. 3:28:35mwit is there anything else from either
  4701. 3:28:37side with regards to ceny no y no your
  4702. 3:28:40honor right and each cause number I'm
  4703. 3:28:44going to show you what's entitled trial
  4704. 3:28:45court C ification of defendants rights
  4705. 3:28:48to appeal did you review those documents
  4706. 3:28:51with your attorney did you understand
  4707. 3:28:53them and did you sign
  4708. 3:28:55them right because this is a plea
  4709. 3:28:57bargain agreement because I followed
  4710. 3:28:59your plea bargain agreement and because
  4711. 3:29:00you weighed your right to appeal you do
  4712. 3:29:01not have the Court's permission to
  4713. 3:29:03appeal because these are felony
  4714. 3:29:05convictions you're not allowed to own or
  4715. 3:29:07possess any weapons or ammunition if you
  4716. 3:29:09have a question over what a weapon or
  4717. 3:29:11ammunition is you need to speak to an
  4718. 3:29:13attorney do you understand all right we
  4719. 3:29:15can go off the
  4720. 3:29:17Record here's the thing whether you're
  4721. 3:29:19telling me you knew she was only 16 or
  4722. 3:29:21not at the end of the day you knew that
  4723. 3:29:23the person that you were using was going
  4724. 3:29:26through some trauma drama in their life
  4725. 3:29:29and you were seeking to build your
  4726. 3:29:31happiness off that person's misery you
  4727. 3:29:33cannot do that in this world do you
  4728. 3:29:35understand all right at least good human
  4729. 3:29:38beings do not good luck to you
  4730. 3:29:46Mr krail yes here are the dismissals for
  4731. 3:29:54you
  4732. 3:29:58wow you're
  4733. 3:30:01welcome I think uh no matter what he had
  4734. 3:30:03said there that would have been the same
  4735. 3:30:04outcome the state was uh providing that
  4736. 3:30:07those details to the judge um but the
  4737. 3:30:09fact that the judge is uh had somebody
  4738. 3:30:12lie to her early on um has really uh
  4739. 3:30:16impacted her tone not necessarily the
  4740. 3:30:18outcome but her tone with every other
  4741. 3:30:20person since
  4742. 3:30:29then thank you have a good one
  4743. 3:30:34Mr all right are we ready on with The
  4744. 3:30:36Interpreter Jose
  4745. 3:30:38Soto all right thank you always good
  4746. 3:30:41seeing you have a great one thank you J
  4747. 3:30:43to
  4748. 3:30:46I'm doing my best if you just pass it
  4749. 3:30:48along to them that yes it was hot in
  4750. 3:30:50this courtroom
  4751. 3:30:53today all right on this case all of the
  4752. 3:30:58other codefendants are being brought
  4753. 3:31:01back on
  4754. 3:31:04August 24th for The Plea deadline date
  4755. 3:31:08okay I've been conferring extensively
  4756. 3:31:11with Daniel escalar I understand he's in
  4757. 3:31:14trial right now um if we have a
  4758. 3:31:17resolution before then we we'll
  4759. 3:31:19definitely let Norman M know okay all
  4760. 3:31:24right so we will see you all
  4761. 3:31:27back on
  4762. 3:31:30August
  4763. 3:31:3224th thank all right is there anything
  4764. 3:31:35else nothing
  4765. 3:31:36further KT yes you can all get access to
  4766. 3:31:39these Court rooms these are see you
  4767. 3:31:41these are Judges that stream on Zoom
  4768. 3:31:43there are actually many more that stream
  4769. 3:31:45on Zoom that cannot show you because
  4770. 3:31:47they they legally restrict me from
  4771. 3:31:49showing that they but you could watch
  4772. 3:31:51yourself for instance uh judge Manning
  4773. 3:31:54um the not relevant judge um she she
  4774. 3:31:57fights quite aggressively against people
  4775. 3:31:58who show her Channel online all right
  4776. 3:32:00who's here on colos
  4777. 3:32:02Romero but they are all visible I
  4778. 3:32:05subscribed to about 150 of them we'll
  4779. 3:32:07wait for Mr Cox to come back Moses
  4780. 3:32:12Ross all right Mr Ross
  4781. 3:32:17and this was scheduled for ptd where are
  4782. 3:32:19we on that yes RoR if you're discussing
  4783. 3:32:21with a supervisor the case would not be
  4784. 3:32:23elig for PD uh so the state did tender
  4785. 3:32:25an offer to council and we've also
  4786. 3:32:28submitted a discovery an all right your
  4787. 3:32:30plea deadline date normally can we call
  4788. 3:32:32this back on the 24th as well all right
  4789. 3:32:34your plea deadline date is going to be
  4790. 3:32:36on August 24th at that time you need to
  4791. 3:32:39let the court know where they're not
  4792. 3:32:40you're accepting the state's offer after
  4793. 3:32:41that point the court will not consider
  4794. 3:32:43any plea bargain agreements with th good
  4795. 3:32:45cost you understand August 24th yes
  4796. 3:32:47they're going to give you a reset form
  4797. 3:32:49so I come back here August 24th right
  4798. 3:32:50and that'll be the last day that I could
  4799. 3:32:51take a your do
  4800. 3:32:54yes all right do you have any questions
  4801. 3:32:56about anything um if I come back or when
  4802. 3:32:59I come back August 24th if I come back
  4803. 3:33:02and I happen not to take the deal and I
  4804. 3:33:04would hire a lawyer no then you go on a
  4805. 3:33:06jury trial and let me just tell you
  4806. 3:33:09whoever you bring in if you bring in an
  4807. 3:33:11attorney on August 24th you need to let
  4808. 3:33:13them know that you're going to jury
  4809. 3:33:14trial then there's not going to be a
  4810. 3:33:16continuance for them to get up to speed
  4811. 3:33:18because this case has been on the uh
  4812. 3:33:20Court's docket since June and in this
  4813. 3:33:22court we don't let cases hang around for
  4814. 3:33:25a long time you understand all right is
  4815. 3:33:27there anything else oh yeah and why were
  4816. 3:33:30you
  4817. 3:33:31late just didn't wake up I'm sorry
  4818. 3:33:34here's the thing not thank you for your
  4819. 3:33:37apology but if you're late what ends up
  4820. 3:33:39happening is a warrant may be issued for
  4821. 3:33:41your arrest I'm going to notate in the
  4822. 3:33:43file that you were late because you
  4823. 3:33:44overslept do not oversleep again do you
  4824. 3:33:47understand all right thank
  4825. 3:33:52you this is definitely a channel you'd
  4826. 3:33:54want to to click and and and watch who's
  4827. 3:33:57here um missel
  4828. 3:34:00Solis all right Mr Solis if you come
  4829. 3:34:07forward the jury selection starts
  4830. 3:34:10tomorrow we're not sure if they're going
  4831. 3:34:11to broadcast that or not so we're just
  4832. 3:34:13going to cover the details of the case
  4833. 3:34:16um if they don't show that and and then
  4834. 3:34:18we'll we'll talk it over get up to so
  4835. 3:34:20the reason why we're here is opening
  4836. 3:34:22statements the last thing that I have is
  4837. 3:34:24re-entry Center in Houston Texas
  4838. 3:34:27documentation not provided has that been
  4839. 3:34:31provided let me double check
  4840. 3:34:36um what is that the verification of the
  4841. 3:34:39half house yes' yes ma'am
  4842. 3:34:45okay and
  4843. 3:34:54then res is the re-entry home in Houston
  4844. 3:34:57Texas all right so what does he have
  4845. 3:35:01remaining he was in custody when he
  4846. 3:35:05signed for
  4847. 3:35:07probation um
  4848. 3:35:09so he just he was just released on a his
  4849. 3:35:15Pro violation um in June sunshine girl
  4850. 3:35:19thank you very much for purchasing my
  4851. 3:35:20understanding is that you're telling
  4852. 3:35:21them you don't want to be extended you
  4853. 3:35:23will be extended do you understand yes
  4854. 3:35:25ma'am right the name of this understand
  4855. 3:35:27that you replaced some probation while
  4856. 3:35:28you were in custody but that means that
  4857. 3:35:30you haven't done anything really because
  4858. 3:35:34you've been in custody so you're going
  4859. 3:35:36to be extended search judge Stephie Bo
  4860. 3:35:38if you complete everything early then
  4861. 3:35:41the court will consider removing you
  4862. 3:35:44from probation or allowing you to
  4863. 3:35:45terminate early do you understand but
  4864. 3:35:47you're going to have to show the court
  4865. 3:35:49something okay ma'am when I got arrested
  4866. 3:35:53I I got these charges right and they
  4867. 3:35:55violated me and send me to prison so
  4868. 3:35:56that time doesn't count
  4869. 3:35:59no how come if I was already in custy
  4870. 3:36:01for these charges oh because you're on
  4871. 3:36:03probation for this case it was you not
  4872. 3:36:07on probation for this case and if you
  4873. 3:36:09would like to be roked and just do your
  4874. 3:36:10time on it and have an attorney talk
  4875. 3:36:14to the state and see what time they will
  4876. 3:36:17be perhaps willing to give you then of
  4877. 3:36:19course the court will always consider
  4878. 3:36:21that but the court is going to extend
  4879. 3:36:25you and do you how much time do you want
  4880. 3:36:27to extend him
  4881. 3:36:32for your honor I would need a little bit
  4882. 3:36:35of time to look into that all right
  4883. 3:36:38currently his probation expires on the
  4884. 3:36:4131st of this month all right so this is
  4885. 3:36:43what I'm going to do I'm going to extend
  4886. 3:36:47him and I'm going extend him for a year
  4887. 3:36:50if you get everything done and come back
  4888. 3:36:52within six months the court will
  4889. 3:36:53consider terminating you early but that
  4890. 3:36:56means you cannot miss any
  4891. 3:36:59appointments or anything you understand
  4892. 3:37:01yes ma'am I'm I'm still on Pro also I
  4893. 3:37:04get off a pro on October 12 all right so
  4894. 3:37:06I'm gonna extend you for a year if
  4895. 3:37:09everything is good with you and you want
  4896. 3:37:11to come back and can be considered for
  4897. 3:37:14early termination
  4898. 3:37:16maybe if you want to come back when
  4899. 3:37:17you're released from parole then the
  4900. 3:37:19court will consider it you understand
  4901. 3:37:22okay but until then so I still have to
  4902. 3:37:24pay the fines and everything well today
  4903. 3:37:27what we're going to do is I'm going to
  4904. 3:37:28do the
  4905. 3:37:29extension and I will do do a minimum
  4906. 3:37:34supervisory fee for
  4907. 3:37:37him and we'll go from there hey Jackie
  4908. 3:37:40the police we're putting together is
  4909. 3:37:42going to have all the word art for the
  4910. 3:37:44channel is that the one you want back to
  4911. 3:37:45the court just let probation officer
  4912. 3:37:47know you want to come back to court to
  4913. 3:37:49see if I'll consider early termination
  4914. 3:37:51but in order for me to even consider
  4915. 3:37:53that you cannot have made any mistakes
  4916. 3:37:57or any missteps or missed any
  4917. 3:37:59appointments and you need to have a
  4918. 3:38:01completed everything that I'm requiring
  4919. 3:38:02of you do you understand yes ma'am all
  4920. 3:38:05right probation is there anything else
  4921. 3:38:07no your honor all right so you're you're
  4922. 3:38:09going to sign for the extension today
  4923. 3:38:12and
  4924. 3:38:13then as I said and my mind is steel trap
  4925. 3:38:16so I remember what I'm telling you
  4926. 3:38:18complete everything make sure there are
  4927. 3:38:20no hiccups or missteps or any violations
  4928. 3:38:23of of any kind and then you can contact
  4929. 3:38:27probation and we can come back and I'll
  4930. 3:38:29reconsider when I get off in October yes
  4931. 3:38:32I'll reconsider that CH your honor um
  4932. 3:38:35can we list him as virtual since he does
  4933. 3:38:39live in Harris County or you
  4934. 3:38:41want um transferred or can we just do
  4935. 3:38:44virtual we can do virtual
  4936. 3:38:46that's what I've been doing with my
  4937. 3:38:47current probation officer okay I'll
  4938. 3:38:49allow for virtual
  4939. 3:38:51reporting and
  4940. 3:38:53also virtual when he comes
  4941. 3:39:02back all right is there anything
  4942. 3:39:06else no all right anything else you need
  4943. 3:39:09from the court that's it man' all right
  4944. 3:39:11thanks for addressing appropriately for
  4945. 3:39:12court I appreciate that yes ma' all
  4946. 3:39:14right all right are the parties here on
  4947. 3:39:17Katrina
  4948. 3:39:25Mendoza awesome thanks
  4949. 3:39:31Jackie all right court is calling 2022
  4950. 3:39:35CR 4248 B state of Texas versus Katrina
  4951. 3:39:40Mendoza can I have parties announced for
  4952. 3:39:42the record for the state Britney
  4953. 3:39:44Mitchell and Marissa G Co for the State
  4954. 3:39:46Defense good morning your honor I'm Todd
  4955. 3:39:48McCrae for Katrina Rose Mendoza and are
  4956. 3:39:51you Miss Mendoza yes ma'am Council have
  4957. 3:39:53you received all the discovery and did
  4958. 3:39:55you review with your client yes sure
  4959. 3:39:57Court will find that the state is in
  4960. 3:39:58compliance with
  4961. 3:40:00Discovery Miss Mendoza I'm showing you
  4962. 3:40:02what's entitled application for deferred
  4963. 3:40:04adjudication did you review that with
  4964. 3:40:05your attorney did you understand it and
  4965. 3:40:07did you sign it yes ma'am sh you what's
  4966. 3:40:10entitled true bill of indictment did you
  4967. 3:40:11review that with your attorney did you
  4968. 3:40:13understand it yes ma'am I did Council do
  4969. 3:40:15you wave the reading of the indictment
  4970. 3:40:17yes sure state are you proceeding on the
  4971. 3:40:19indictment as presented Governor we are
  4972. 3:40:21proceeding under count one paragraph B
  4973. 3:40:24and waving the remaining counts Ron all
  4974. 3:40:26right any objection to the waiver of
  4975. 3:40:28count
  4976. 3:40:29one excuse
  4977. 3:40:32me any objection to the
  4978. 3:40:37waiver of count one paragraph
  4979. 3:40:41a count three
  4980. 3:40:46count
  4981. 3:40:48two count four and count five no you're
  4982. 3:40:52honor that's per our
  4983. 3:40:55agreement Miss Mendo I'm going to show
  4984. 3:40:57you what's entitled court admonishments
  4985. 3:40:59and defendants waivers and Affidavit of
  4986. 3:41:01admonitions did you review that with
  4987. 3:41:02your attorney did you understand it did
  4988. 3:41:04you sign it in all the appropriate
  4989. 3:41:05places yes ma'am I did did you
  4990. 3:41:08understand in count 1B you're charged
  4991. 3:41:10with the offense of assault
  4992. 3:41:13intentionally an knowingly serious
  4993. 3:41:14bodily iny to a child that's a
  4994. 3:41:16first-degree felony the range of
  4995. 3:41:18punishment is anywhere from 5 to 99
  4996. 3:41:21years or life in prison and up to
  4997. 3:41:22$110,000 fine did you understand yes
  4998. 3:41:25ma'am if you have a plea bargain
  4999. 3:41:26agreement with the state the court does
  5000. 3:41:27not have to follow your plea if for any
  5001. 3:41:30reason the court does not follow your
  5002. 3:41:31plea and gives you more than you bargain
  5003. 3:41:33for the fact that you enter a plea will
  5004. 3:41:34not be used against you and you will be
  5005. 3:41:36allowed to withdraw your plea did you
  5006. 3:41:38understand yes ma'am did you understand
  5007. 3:41:39you have a right to jury trial a right
  5008. 3:41:41for you or your attorney to
  5009. 3:41:42cross-examine and confront any Witnesses
  5010. 3:41:45the the state would calling the right to
  5011. 3:41:46remain silent yes ma'am did you
  5012. 3:41:48understand by entering this plea bargain
  5013. 3:41:50agreement you were giving up those
  5014. 3:41:51rights yes ma'am and did you intend to
  5015. 3:41:53give up those rights and enter into a
  5016. 3:41:55plea in this case yes
  5017. 3:41:57ma'am did you understand if the court
  5018. 3:41:59would Grant your application for
  5019. 3:42:00deferred adjudication if for any reason
  5020. 3:42:02your deferred adjudication were revoked
  5021. 3:42:04the court could find you guil guilty
  5022. 3:42:06sentence you up to life in prison and up
  5023. 3:42:07to a $10,000 fine yes ma'am councelor
  5024. 3:42:10has your client been able to provide you
  5025. 3:42:11with any defenses yes sure do you
  5026. 3:42:13believe she has a rational as well as
  5027. 3:42:15factual understanding of the charges
  5028. 3:42:16against her she does I've reviewed
  5029. 3:42:18everything thoroughly with her y do you
  5030. 3:42:20believe she's currently competent was
  5031. 3:42:22legally saying at the time of the
  5032. 3:42:23offense yes sure miss Mendoza has anyone
  5033. 3:42:25threatened you forced you or placed you
  5034. 3:42:27in fear to get you to enter this plea no
  5035. 3:42:29ma'am has anyone promised you anything
  5036. 3:42:30other than the plea no ma'am are you
  5037. 3:42:32satisfied with the way you've been
  5038. 3:42:33represented yes ma'am are you a US
  5039. 3:42:35citizen yes ma'am Court will find that
  5040. 3:42:37defendant has know only inv
  5041. 3:42:41voluntarily what's the charge wave jury
  5042. 3:42:43troll
  5043. 3:42:45going to show you what's entitled plea
  5044. 3:42:47bargain page did you review that page
  5045. 3:42:49with your attorney did you understand it
  5046. 3:42:51yes ma'am I do all right off the record
  5047. 3:42:53for a
  5048. 3:42:55moment she's reading it I love that the
  5049. 3:42:58judge has this whole thing memorized if
  5050. 3:43:00parties could approach
  5051. 3:43:10please and she's muted she's like
  5052. 3:43:13something might be wrong with the
  5053. 3:43:14paperwork
  5054. 3:43:25oh she muted she turned off her camera
  5055. 3:43:26as well all right we'll keep listening
  5056. 3:43:29um to that briefly let's see actually
  5057. 3:43:31that's um this one right here we'll keep
  5058. 3:43:33listening when she comes back on when
  5059. 3:43:35when this uh case is over we're going to
  5060. 3:43:36take a lunch break um and probably break
  5061. 3:43:40for the day um I've got a little bit of
  5062. 3:43:41homework to work on U for some upcoming
  5063. 3:43:43cases some paperwork to follow up with a
  5064. 3:43:45couple different courts um I think I've
  5065. 3:43:48only got like two or three more foyer
  5066. 3:43:49requests out there they all sort of came
  5067. 3:43:51back at the same time so that's cool but
  5068. 3:43:53I'm going to follow up on those as well
  5069. 3:43:54see where we're at um let's see judge is
  5070. 3:43:58uh still talking with the the attorneys
  5071. 3:44:02here love judge Manning
  5072. 3:44:05pre-trial yeah she does a great job stay
  5073. 3:44:07out of fton County um here we go all
  5074. 3:44:10right so miss Mendoza paragraph B is
  5075. 3:44:14Assa intentionally knowingly serious
  5076. 3:44:16bodily injury to a child by admission
  5077. 3:44:18you understand that yes is the offense
  5078. 3:44:20that you're pleading to yes ma'am all
  5079. 3:44:22right so with regards to the plea
  5080. 3:44:24bargain
  5081. 3:44:26agreement your punishments be assessed
  5082. 3:44:29at a cap of 45 years the state opposes
  5083. 3:44:31your application for deferred
  5084. 3:44:33adjudication and there is an affirmative
  5085. 3:44:35finding of Family Violence and also
  5086. 3:44:38there is a plea bargain agreement that
  5087. 3:44:40is attached
  5088. 3:44:45and was that attachment filled out today
  5089. 3:44:47State Defense yes
  5090. 3:44:57sure so with regard to your plea bargain
  5091. 3:45:00agreement there's an affirmative finding
  5092. 3:45:01of Family Violence what that means is
  5093. 3:45:04that you're not allowed to own or
  5094. 3:45:06possess any weapons or ammunition did
  5095. 3:45:07you understand yes' and did you
  5096. 3:45:09understand with an affirmative finding
  5097. 3:45:10of Family Violence you're not allowed to
  5098. 3:45:13be designated as primary custodial
  5099. 3:45:15parent yes ma'am and did you understand
  5100. 3:45:17as a part of your plea bargain agreement
  5101. 3:45:19with the
  5102. 3:45:22state that your sentencing will be
  5103. 3:45:25postponed
  5104. 3:45:26until the completion of the trial of
  5105. 3:45:29Jose Angel Ruiz did you understand that
  5106. 3:45:31yes ma'am and did you understand that if
  5107. 3:45:33you fail to comply with the terms of
  5108. 3:45:35this plea bargain agreement that your
  5109. 3:45:37plea that you enter to enter into
  5110. 3:45:40whether you plead guilty or no contest
  5111. 3:45:43that plea will stand and if it's
  5112. 3:45:45determined that you failed to fulfill
  5113. 3:45:46your obligations under the agreement you
  5114. 3:45:48will be subject to the full range of
  5115. 3:45:50punishment do you understand yes ma'am I
  5116. 3:45:51and that full range of punishment is up
  5117. 3:45:53to life impr prison and up to $10,000
  5118. 3:45:56fine did you understand yes ma'am did
  5119. 3:45:57you understand that to be the entirety
  5120. 3:46:00of your plea Baran agreement yes ma'am
  5121. 3:46:02defense yes sir State
  5122. 3:46:05yes next I'm going to show you the
  5123. 3:46:07paragraph entitled wave of appeal
  5124. 3:46:09paragraph did you review that paragraph
  5125. 3:46:11with your attorney did you understand it
  5126. 3:46:15and did you sign it in both places yes
  5127. 3:46:17ma'am I did did you understand by
  5128. 3:46:19signing that you're waving your right to
  5129. 3:46:20appeal the only items that can be
  5130. 3:46:22appealed are written pre-trial motions
  5131. 3:46:24that have been filed heard and ruled
  5132. 3:46:25upon by the court did you understand yes
  5133. 3:46:27ma'am Council there any such motions no
  5134. 3:46:30then to count one paragraph other than
  5135. 3:46:33in Discovery we asked for
  5136. 3:46:37discovery
  5137. 3:46:39of the phone and the contents of the
  5138. 3:46:43phone and the state's response was that
  5139. 3:46:47the contents of the phone that's the
  5140. 3:46:50codefendant phone is still being
  5141. 3:46:53extracted because there's a might
  5142. 3:46:55remember the hearing uh there's a Code
  5143. 3:46:59there that they haven't been able to
  5144. 3:47:01break all right and I believe that's if
  5145. 3:47:04I'm remembering correctly I believe
  5146. 3:47:06that's the case where the defendant
  5147. 3:47:08offered
  5148. 3:47:10to right I'm I'm being told we we just
  5149. 3:47:15got a cell download in so we can provide
  5150. 3:47:19that to defense counil very good so they
  5151. 3:47:23have already been uploaded to be honest
  5152. 3:47:25I I've already given it to them to be
  5153. 3:47:26uploaded so I I will double check on
  5154. 3:47:28that all right M Mendoza you understand
  5155. 3:47:31that there's a cell phone dump from the
  5156. 3:47:33codefendants phone yes ma'am and were
  5157. 3:47:35you aware of this before entering this
  5158. 3:47:38plea that there was a cell phone yes I
  5159. 3:47:41know and were you aware before entering
  5160. 3:47:43this plea that the state did not have
  5161. 3:47:44have the contents of that cell phone to
  5162. 3:47:47turn over to your defense Council yes
  5163. 3:47:50all right the state has informed the
  5164. 3:47:52court that that has been completed do
  5165. 3:47:54you still wish to continue with this
  5166. 3:47:56plea yes all right and are you waving
  5167. 3:48:00your right to have the contents of that
  5168. 3:48:03phone viewed before entering this plea
  5169. 3:48:06yes defense is that
  5170. 3:48:09correct but even with that being said
  5171. 3:48:12State you're going to provide that
  5172. 3:48:13information to them yes yes absolutely
  5173. 3:48:15judge okay all right then to count one
  5174. 3:48:19paragraph B how do you plead guilty not
  5175. 3:48:21guilty or no contest guilty State any
  5176. 3:48:24evidence honor we have for State's
  5177. 3:48:25exhibit number one and all attachments
  5178. 3:48:28which I reviewed thoroughly with Miss
  5179. 3:48:31mza all right I'm showing you what's
  5180. 3:48:33entitled wavering consent to stipulation
  5181. 3:48:35of testimony and stipulations did you
  5182. 3:48:37review that with your attorney did you
  5183. 3:48:39understand it did you sign it in all the
  5184. 3:48:40appropriate places I did loud again did
  5185. 3:48:42you understand you have a right to jury
  5186. 3:48:44trial a right for you or your attorney
  5187. 3:48:45to cross-examine and confront any
  5188. 3:48:47Witnesses the state would call in the
  5189. 3:48:49right to remain silent yes ma'am did you
  5190. 3:48:51understand that today the state would be
  5191. 3:48:52presenting evidence in the form of
  5192. 3:48:54witnesses statements and police reports
  5193. 3:48:56but most importantly there will be no
  5194. 3:48:58live testimony did you understand yes
  5195. 3:49:01ma'am Court will find that defendant has
  5196. 3:49:02known only involuntarily waved and
  5197. 3:49:04consented to stipulation of testimony
  5198. 3:49:06and stipulations Court will accept into
  5199. 3:49:08evidence States exhibits one in
  5200. 3:49:09attachments and review the same
  5201. 3:49:35she's a speed reader
  5202. 3:49:46yeah she's pleading guilty to all
  5203. 3:49:48this the it's part of the deal there
  5204. 3:49:50were there were a whole bunch of charges
  5205. 3:49:52um all the other charges got dropped as
  5206. 3:49:54long as she pleads guilty to this one
  5207. 3:49:56and that's part of the deal
  5208. 3:49:59so we're just finishing up uh judge
  5209. 3:50:02Stephanie Boyd um she's had quite a
  5210. 3:50:05Mourning a little bit of a lip and
  5211. 3:50:07attitude and lies from a defendant and
  5212. 3:50:09then every defendant who's appeared
  5213. 3:50:11before since then has got a little bit
  5214. 3:50:13bit of a tongue lashing so she's she's
  5215. 3:50:14not in the best mood although she's been
  5216. 3:50:17so somewhat cordial at least to uh to
  5217. 3:50:29counsil she has to testify against the
  5218. 3:50:36codefendant this is a very disturbing
  5219. 3:50:38case uh what a 5-year-old child was was
  5220. 3:50:42uh her child
  5221. 3:50:47un alived between her and her the
  5222. 3:50:58codefendant I think they schedule all
  5223. 3:51:00the ones that plead guilty sort of
  5224. 3:51:02together so she can work the
  5225. 3:51:04cases um quicker that way
  5226. 3:51:20Samantha Terry I was wondering why you
  5227. 3:51:22asking me what kind of water I
  5228. 3:51:25like I like I like Deer Park water and I
  5229. 3:51:29really wish they would sponsor the
  5230. 3:51:30channel because I I'm currently
  5231. 3:51:33sponsoring their like executive
  5232. 3:51:34retirement plan with how much I
  5233. 3:51:39drink after reviewing States exhibits
  5234. 3:51:41one in attachments the court is going to
  5235. 3:51:43find their sufficient evidence to find
  5236. 3:51:45you guilty Court will defer finding new
  5237. 3:51:47guilty as you've applied for deferred
  5238. 3:51:49adjudication um Miss Ferguson when is
  5239. 3:51:52the codependent sent for
  5240. 3:51:53trial October 3rd all right so the code
  5241. 3:51:57defendant case is going to trial on
  5242. 3:51:59October
  5243. 3:52:003D and we will send this for a
  5244. 3:52:04PSI and we will be back you will most
  5245. 3:52:07definitely be back on I want to say
  5246. 3:52:10October 4th because we'll have jury
  5247. 3:52:13trial on October 3rd
  5248. 3:52:15so miss Ferguson let's just put this on
  5249. 3:52:17the docket for let me look at the
  5250. 3:52:32calendar you know the computer did an
  5251. 3:52:34update and the update is
  5252. 3:52:37just changed everything around on the
  5253. 3:52:42computer I hate that
  5254. 3:52:45why you reinvent the wheel it was
  5255. 3:52:46working just fine
  5256. 3:52:49before so trial on October 3rd is the
  5257. 3:52:51codefendant in this case and then she's
  5258. 3:52:54going to be sentenced on the 4th October
  5259. 3:52:563rd we'll probably do jury
  5260. 3:53:00selection so
  5261. 3:53:02Norma let's just bring this back on
  5262. 3:53:05October 2nd to make sure that everything
  5263. 3:53:08is still proceeding the way it's
  5264. 3:53:10supposed to
  5265. 3:53:12proceed so we'll put October
  5266. 3:53:172nd and that's not the day you will have
  5267. 3:53:19your sentencing according to your plea
  5268. 3:53:21bargain agreement with the state your
  5269. 3:53:23sentencing will take place after the
  5270. 3:53:25defendants the codefendants jury trial
  5271. 3:53:27do you understand yes ma'am so we're
  5272. 3:53:29going to bring you back we can go off
  5273. 3:53:30the Record we're going to bring you back
  5274. 3:53:31on October 2 testify against him uh
  5275. 3:53:33probation on meno PSI
  5276. 3:53:38done uh we're going to bring her back on
  5277. 3:53:40October 2nd but the actual sentencing is
  5278. 3:53:45not going to take place until after the
  5279. 3:53:47codefendants jury trial all right so
  5280. 3:53:50we'll bring you back on October 2nd to
  5281. 3:53:51see where we are with the jury trial but
  5282. 3:53:54the jury trial should be proceeding on
  5283. 3:53:56October 3rd and one final
  5284. 3:53:59thing so uh you could see that Miss
  5285. 3:54:02Mendoza's status right now because she's
  5286. 3:54:05dressed in red is pretty much what what
  5287. 3:54:07they call isolation yes she's isolated
  5288. 3:54:10she only gets one hour the outside of
  5289. 3:54:13that isolation
  5290. 3:54:14we would ask the board respectfully that
  5291. 3:54:17the court would review her
  5292. 3:54:19status uh if she is classified as
  5293. 3:54:23protective custody status she gets a few
  5294. 3:54:26more hours out of
  5295. 3:54:29isolation uh and I know the court knows
  5296. 3:54:31this but she also could participate in
  5297. 3:54:34classes and things like that so our plea
  5298. 3:54:37would be to ask the court to review her
  5299. 3:54:40status of the jail and we would
  5300. 3:54:43respectfully ask
  5301. 3:54:44to classify her as protected custody
  5302. 3:54:49rather than the isolation I don't think
  5303. 3:54:51he'll change that before well what I can
  5304. 3:54:53tell you is we've had situations of this
  5305. 3:54:55nature
  5306. 3:54:56before it would be best so that I won't
  5307. 3:55:00have any responsibility if something
  5308. 3:55:02were to go a I'm not saying it would but
  5309. 3:55:05if you will reach out to the
  5310. 3:55:07sheriff or to classifications and let
  5311. 3:55:10them know you would appreciate her being
  5312. 3:55:12Rec classified
  5313. 3:55:15they will usually do that but they're
  5314. 3:55:17going to want it in the form of a letter
  5315. 3:55:19from you signed by your
  5316. 3:55:22client okay so you think a letter to the
  5317. 3:55:26Sheriff's classification requesting
  5318. 3:55:28protected custody might do it yes and
  5319. 3:55:30then if that doesn't happen we can
  5320. 3:55:32always come back and have a hearing on
  5321. 3:55:34it you understand Miss mza yes thank you
  5322. 3:55:37all right you're welcome is there
  5323. 3:55:38anything else nothing further from
  5324. 3:55:40theate all right thank you thank you
  5325. 3:55:50all right with that uh we're going to go
  5326. 3:55:52ahead and and leave the judge the good
  5327. 3:55:55judge it's lunchtime it is lunchtime and
  5328. 3:55:57we're going to wrap things up here um
  5329. 3:55:59Ivan thanks for the Super Chat there at
  5330. 3:56:00the very end uh appreciate that
  5331. 3:56:02appreciate all your super chats today
  5332. 3:56:04there were there were several um
  5333. 3:56:05appreciate that and and others as
  5334. 3:56:07well all right we have a new trial that
  5335. 3:56:10is starting jury selection tomorrow this
  5336. 3:56:12is I'm going to remember it eventually
  5337. 3:56:14but it's the the trial of Thomas
  5338. 3:56:16Randolph um he was on death row and he
  5339. 3:56:19won an appeal because in his last case
  5340. 3:56:22where he was sentenced to death uh they
  5341. 3:56:24they revealed a little too much about
  5342. 3:56:25his prior past what involved uning
  5343. 3:56:28previous wives and this case
  5344. 3:56:30specifically is about uning one of his
  5345. 3:56:32wives six you know number six I
  5346. 3:56:35think so I think we are going to sign
  5347. 3:56:38off for the day cuz I have a lot of
  5348. 3:56:39homework to do um as far as as prepping
  5349. 3:56:41stuff same time tomorrow 9:00 a.m. yes
  5350. 3:56:43that'll give be a little bit early the
  5351. 3:56:45the case is actually out of um Nevada
  5352. 3:56:48it's out of uh Las Vegas Nevada Clark
  5353. 3:56:50County Nevada so it's going to be a
  5354. 3:56:52little bit later in the day a late start
  5355. 3:56:53but we'll have a morning uh get together
  5356. 3:56:55and uh tomorrow we're probably going to
  5357. 3:56:57be talking about if if we don't get a
  5358. 3:56:59feed from the courtroom as far as jury
  5359. 3:57:01selection goes we're going to be talking
  5360. 3:57:02about the case just getting up to speed
  5361. 3:57:03on who the players are what the the
  5362. 3:57:05facts are what we know what the previous
  5363. 3:57:07trial how that went down um we'll do
  5364. 3:57:09that and then we'll be ready to uh to
  5365. 3:57:11participate in the uh the actual
  5366. 3:57:15trial that starts uh the next day on
  5367. 3:57:18Wednesday
  5368. 3:57:19so yeah she she'll be sorry she gets out
  5369. 3:57:21of isolation I don't think that's in her
  5370. 3:57:23best interest right
  5371. 3:57:25now uh Tish says on my time zone finally
  5372. 3:57:29Tish we'll we'll do it on your time zone
  5373. 3:57:30it's the rest of us suffer but I'm glad
  5374. 3:57:32it's it's good for
  5375. 3:57:33you flying to Vegas in four hours
  5376. 3:57:36seriously
  5377. 3:57:37Dallas what are you what are you doing
  5378. 3:57:39well never mind don't tell me what
  5379. 3:57:40happens in Vegas stays in Vegas right
  5380. 3:57:43hope you win big hope you win
  5381. 3:57:45big all right uh tonight when you go
  5382. 3:57:48home please hug the people you love
  5383. 3:57:49smile at someone to make their day just
  5384. 3:57:50a little bit better and please stay safe
  5385. 3:57:51till we go live again which will be
  5386. 3:57:53tomorrow morning 9:00 a.m. we've got a
  5387. 3:57:54new trial coming up we're excited to do
  5388. 3:57:56a little homework get caught up on that
  5389. 3:57:59I've got a lot of uh a lot of paperwork
  5390. 3:58:01to fill out with different courts to try
  5391. 3:58:03to line up everything I have to I have
  5392. 3:58:04to apply in every trial I'm interested
  5393. 3:58:06in and so I'm ended up applying to
  5394. 3:58:08courts so we never even watch and
  5395. 3:58:11uh it's just how the system works thank
  5396. 3:58:14you very much we have fantastic mods
  5397. 3:58:15here I'm glad you recognize them for
  5398. 3:58:17their great work that they do I
  5399. 3:58:18appreciate every single one of them um
  5400. 3:58:21good to see a couple of you that were
  5401. 3:58:22able to pop in today for the first time
  5402. 3:58:23I appreciate those who popped over from
  5403. 3:58:25bry's channel uh she has a a great video
  5404. 3:58:27on this as well if you want to get
  5405. 3:58:28caught up on this I would highly
  5406. 3:58:30recommend going over watching that I
  5407. 3:58:31think she did that today or last week I
  5408. 3:58:35I can't remember she she put together a
  5409. 3:58:36little background video of that and she
  5410. 3:58:38always always does a good job on that so
  5411. 3:58:40do go give that a watch and when you do
  5412. 3:58:41go over make sure you click the like
  5413. 3:58:42button let her know that we appreciate
  5414. 3:58:44the great work she does here on YouTube
  5415. 3:58:46and uh and she's doing a good job let's
  5416. 3:58:49see turns off the lights oh the lights
  5417. 3:58:51are off can't see I think that's it I
  5418. 3:58:54think that's it I'm going to get some
  5419. 3:58:55lunch Mrs R came in and made this
  5420. 3:58:57delicious salad and she was eating it in
  5421. 3:58:59front of me saying don't don't you don't
  5422. 3:59:02don't you think you want some are you
  5423. 3:59:04going to take a break apparently she
  5424. 3:59:06wants me to take a lunch break so I'll
  5425. 3:59:07do that we're going to get some food
  5426. 3:59:08we'll see you tomorrow I'm going to try
  5427. 3:59:10to straighten out some of the uh the
  5428. 3:59:11chat not the chat the uh the merchandise
  5429. 3:59:14items I know there's some sale items
  5430. 3:59:15that are a little hard to find right now
  5431. 3:59:17um want to see if I can fix that today
  5432. 3:59:18hopefully it'll update quickly cuz it
  5433. 3:59:20normally doesn't we're also working on
  5434. 3:59:22the uh the fleece blanket with the word
  5435. 3:59:24art we want to get that done as well so
  5436. 3:59:26anyway lots of stuff to do thanks guys
  5437. 3:59:28have a great day we'll see you tomorrow
  5438. 3:59:30bye is that correct that's correct
  5439. 3:59:50because he

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