Sarah Boone Deep Dive: Suitcase Murder | Vinnie Politan Investigates — Transcript
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- 0:15I'm vitan the subject of my
- 0:17investigation is Sarah Boon and the
- 0:20suitcase murder trial now I've covered
- 0:22several murders involving suitcases in
- 0:25all those situations the suitcase was
- 0:27used to dispose of dismembered body
- 0:30parts this case is different here the
- 0:34suitcase is alleged to be the actual
- 0:38murder weapon here's the
- 0:44story in February 24th 2020 Sarah Boon
- 0:47and her boyfriend George Torres were
- 0:49spending an evening together at Sarah's
- 0:52home the couple had a bit of a
- 0:53tumultuous past both had been arrested
- 0:55on domestic violence charges but they
- 0:57always seemed to get back together on
- 1:00this night the two were drinking but
- 1:02what happened next is almost
- 1:04inexplicable George got inside of a
- 1:06suitcase that was then zipped shut why
- 1:09and exactly how he got into the suitcase
- 1:11is not 100% clear but what is clear is
- 1:15that at one point he wanted to get out
- 1:17he pleaded with Sarah to open the
- 1:19suitcase but she refused instead she
- 1:23turned on the video camera on her phone
- 1:25and started to record as George begged
- 1:28for his life still she refused to unzip
- 1:31the suitcase then the following morning
- 1:33she eventually called 911 she said she
- 1:37and George were playing hide and seek
- 1:38and George ended up in the suitcase when
- 1:41police responded they found George dead
- 1:44Sarah has been charged with second
- 1:46degree murder but now she claims she was
- 1:49the victim and is claiming battered
- 1:51spouse syndrome what happened inside
- 1:53that apartment and why was George in
- 1:56that suitcase
- 2:00we've been talking about this story for
- 2:01quite some time the public reaction um
- 2:05is strong and and and it always comes
- 2:08back to that image and I'm going to show
- 2:10you that image right now so I wanted to
- 2:11warn you some people find this difficult
- 2:13to watch but it's the video that Sarah
- 2:16Boon the first video that Sarah Boon
- 2:19recorded and you'll see the suitcase
- 2:21you'll hear George torres's voice he's
- 2:25inside that suitcase you'll hear Sarah
- 2:27Boon's voice she's the one holding the
- 2:31camera let's
- 2:37[Music]
- 2:41watch
- 2:49s for everything you've done to me Sarah
- 2:53for everything you've done to
- 2:56me you
- 3:01Sarah you
- 3:03Sarah
- 3:06stupid
- 3:08Sarah that's my name don't wear it
- 3:14up I can't bre bab
- 3:18s yeah that's when you do when you choke
- 3:20me
- 3:25Sarah Sarah
- 3:39s Sarah I can't breathe babe that's on
- 3:43you Sarah I can't breathe it's on you
- 3:52Sarah real
- 3:54Rome might want to get video for it
- 3:57extra
- 4:01I got
- 4:12this I can't bre
- 4:16oh that's what I feel like when you
- 4:18drink on me
- 4:22Sarah Sarah
- 4:27yeah you should probably shut the
- 4:35[Music]
- 4:39that's just one of the videos and that's
- 4:43just a couple of
- 4:44minutes obviously that's not the entire
- 4:48time that George is inside that suitcase
- 4:52which brings me to my first question and
- 4:55I think it'll be an important one at the
- 4:56trial how long was George
- 5:01in the
- 5:03suitcase when did he get
- 5:05in when was it finally
- 5:08unzipped joining me Court TV digital
- 5:12content producer who's been covering
- 5:14this story uh inside and out Lauren
- 5:17Silver is with us and forensic
- 5:18pathologist Dr priia bannery thank you
- 5:21both for being here Lauren I'll begin
- 5:24with you and I want to put this up on
- 5:25the screen we have somewhat of a
- 5:27timeline here of what's going on but I
- 5:29want you to kind of fill in the blanks
- 5:32um it seems that he's in the suitcase by
- 5:361112 or
- 5:37so um Falls exactly so 11 what are they
- 5:43doing that night at 11:12 that gets him
- 5:45into the suitcase and how precise is
- 5:48that time so we know that the their
- 5:51evening starts at some sometime around
- 5:53400 p.m. when the two of them are at
- 5:56home they're painting pictures doing
- 5:57puzzles and it starts with sharing a
- 5:59bottle of wine at some point they
- 6:01decided to play hide and seek Sarah HIIT
- 6:05upstairs she says George never came to
- 6:07look for so she went downstairs and
- 6:09found him and at that point they thought
- 6:11it would be funny to zip him into the
- 6:12suitcase now where we're getting that
- 6:151112 time is that's the first video
- 6:18recording that you just saw that was on
- 6:20Sarah's phone so at that point he's
- 6:23already in the suitcase and saying that
- 6:25he's having trouble breathing and then
- 6:28eventually somehow some way she leaves
- 6:31downstairs goes upstairs and goes to
- 6:34sleep we get to the next morning what's
- 6:37the what's the time frame here is is is
- 6:39she finding him um early in the morning
- 6:43midm morning late
- 6:46morning she says she went up uh went to
- 6:49sleep uh she assumed that she he would
- 6:52find his own way out of the suitcase so
- 6:55uh she say she was woken up at about
- 6:5611:00 a.m. by her phone ringing over and
- 6:59over again again she assumed it was her
- 7:00ex-husband looked around and realized I
- 7:02don't see George so she went downstairs
- 7:04looking for him and it's at that point
- 7:06that she realized he was in the suitcase
- 7:08she couldn't he was unresponsive she
- 7:10couldn't wake him up and uh her
- 7:12immediate response was to call her
- 7:13ex-husband so I'm doing the the math as
- 7:16you're describing all this like it seems
- 7:18a at a at a minimum it's 11 hours and 48
- 7:21minutes all right Dr priia
- 7:24bannery how long could someone survive
- 7:28in a suitcase like that and and and is
- 7:32there any way to tell with any Precision
- 7:35is it a ballpark and what would it be
- 7:38like for that amount of time for George
- 7:44Torres I'm sorry I can't hear
- 7:47you can can you hear me Dr
- 7:53bannery doc we're having some trouble
- 7:55obviously with Dr banery uh hearing me
- 7:58um so Lauren as we get back
- 8:01to the suitcase and and the time frame
- 8:04let's get back to that morning um what's
- 8:07her story about what she does when she
- 8:09realizes that he's in the in the
- 8:11suitcase I I've got to think that she
- 8:12unzips it right so uh ostensibly she
- 8:17unzips it realizes she cannot wake him
- 8:19up uh and her this is at 11:00 in the
- 8:23morning her first response is to call
- 8:25her
- 8:26ex-husband um so she called her
- 8:31ex-husband her ex-husband came over she
- 8:34insisted he come over he also saw that
- 8:37George was
- 8:38unresponsive and said they needed to
- 8:40call 911 and then he went outside and
- 8:42waited until the police
- 8:46arrived that is so I don't know how long
- 8:48it took him to get there police arrived
- 8:51at
- 8:521:00 and so police aren't there till
- 8:551:00 in the afternoon and at a minimum
- 8:59um I mean the the the latest that he
- 9:01could have gotten in there was 11:12 at
- 9:04night this to me this is a a big piece
- 9:08of the story a big piece of the case
- 9:10because you're talking about okay you're
- 9:12playing hide and seek you know things go
- 9:15arai whatever this is overnight this is
- 9:19through the morning into the afternoon
- 9:24that George Torres is inside that
- 9:26suitcase you know the other question a
- 9:27lot of people have had is is about how
- 9:30does he even get in there but my
- 9:32understanding George Torres was um he
- 9:35wasn't a huge man I mean he was
- 9:37relatively small he was thin not super
- 9:40tall um so in terms of his
- 9:45size um it if you had to describe him
- 9:49Lauren um or has have they given a a
- 9:52weight and a height in in some of the
- 9:54documents do we know that I haven't seen
- 9:57it um I'm not great with those numbers
- 10:00and I can't say that I've ever tried to
- 10:03put humans into a suitcase uh so I don't
- 10:07know how well or how badly you would fit
- 10:10um but what Sarah does tell the police
- 10:13is that he got in willingly they were
- 10:15laughing about it um and that Sarah
- 10:18zipped him up but uh two of his fingers
- 10:21were sticking out of the uh suitcase and
- 10:24they're having trouble getting them in
- 10:26and she noted that the handle on the
- 10:29Zipper was broken and uh they were able
- 10:32to zip it closed with a paperclip so it
- 10:35was a broken suitcase the Zipper was
- 10:37broken but she still maintained he would
- 10:40find his own way out all right Dr priia
- 10:42banery back with us uh the question I
- 10:45have for
- 10:46you how long could he survive in that
- 10:49suitcase with it zipped shut we're you
- 10:51know we've got this 12 seemingly 12
- 10:54potentially 12 plus hours that he's in
- 10:57there but how long would it take for him
- 11:00to no longer be able to
- 11:03survive well like Lauren said it's not
- 11:06an experiment we
- 11:08run in any kind of way you know with
- 11:11real people he does look thin and
- 11:14obviously he was able to fold up I don't
- 11:16expect that to be a roomy suitcase and
- 11:19why I say that is your breathing is
- 11:23dependent on your chest and belly right
- 11:26rising and falling so being able to take
- 11:29deep breast and if you're scrunched
- 11:31forward or folded into a suitcase uh at
- 11:35that point you're your neck everything
- 11:38is scrunched right so it doesn't even
- 11:40have the room to expand and then
- 11:42someone's going to get real tired right
- 11:44between the stress of being in there um
- 11:48using up energy and then this doesn't
- 11:51seem like a thin cloth you know it looks
- 11:54like a more rugged even though the
- 11:56zipper's broken so it's not going to be
- 11:58so breathable that Oxygen's going to get
- 12:02in so I'm treating it as sort of a
- 12:03closed space and as soon as that air
- 12:06quality you know the oxygen runs out
- 12:08that's it it's going to be minutes you
- 12:10know we do know the physiology of
- 12:12someone being strangled uh it's going to
- 12:14be longer than that because it's going
- 12:16to take uh longer for the air to you
- 12:19know oxygen to run out but it's not 11
- 12:22hours it's going to be shed and it's
- 12:24traumatic to think that he's asking for
- 12:27help and he's laughing and and is he
- 12:29realizing what's happening like at what
- 12:31point absolutely he does he realize that
- 12:34oh my goodness this this could be the
- 12:37end well I think it's sort of a slippery
- 12:40slope right he's going to become more
- 12:42confused as the oxygen goes down right
- 12:45he's going to become weaker so it's both
- 12:47expending energy and using up the oxygen
- 12:50so that means he's going to become tired
- 12:52and his brain's going to become foggy
- 12:55but she's also overtly laughing at him
- 12:58right so he's maybe she even removes
- 13:00herself before he dies that's even
- 13:03scarier no one's there at the end so I
- 13:05just think it's it's awful to think
- 13:07about okay we've got more to uh uncover
- 13:10and in this case coming up next how did
- 13:13the suitcase flip
- 13:17[Music]
- 13:20over
- 13:21SAR you
- 13:24s
- 13:26stupid sah
- 13:29that's my name don't wear it
- 13:31up
- 13:36S Sarah Boon is charged with second
- 13:39deegree murder after her boyfriend
- 13:41suffocated inside of a
- 13:43suitcase he's in the suitcase still
- 13:46there are multiple domestic violence
- 13:48incidents you two hitting each other
- 13:50Sarah this my don't wear it up he's
- 13:53telling you Sarah I can't breathe George
- 13:55Torres locked inside of a suitcase
- 13:58begging for help
- 13:59I thought he was okay the suitcase
- 14:02murder trial live coverage starting
- 14:04October 7th on court
- 14:09TV we have a puzzle that we started in
- 14:11there okay we've been doing art trying
- 14:13to taking stuff off the wall to make new
- 14:15art up there like having a good time
- 14:17with one another but we're drinking we
- 14:19had a bottle of wine last night okay so
- 14:21then it's like we decided to play
- 14:23hide-and seek right okay so he gets in
- 14:25the suitcase the problem is is I fell
- 14:28asleep I fell asleep when did you do CPR
- 14:31this morning when I found it before you
- 14:33called
- 14:35yes 1:00 right now I
- 14:38tried I was awake but I actually got out
- 14:41of the bed at like 12:30ish whatever so
- 14:43I came downstairs and I was like oh he's
- 14:46in the suitcase still and that's when I
- 14:48found him and I took him out and I tried
- 14:50doing CPR and then I called him and then
- 14:52I called you guys I fell asleep so I
- 14:54don't know if he suffocated or like had
- 14:56an aneurysm or a heart attack or what
- 14:58what kind of medical
- 14:59conditions that he have nothing that I
- 15:01know of nothing that you know of take
- 15:03any medical last night no all we had was
- 15:06a bottle of
- 15:08mine yeah 12 hours locked inside of a
- 15:11suitcase it's not going to be an
- 15:12aneurysm uh that's going to take your
- 15:14life so I wanted to I I I said there's
- 15:17more than one video there's two videos
- 15:19the second one's a little bit shorter
- 15:20but I want to show you the second video
- 15:23as we watch it and listen to it um take
- 15:27a close look cuz it's it's interesting
- 15:31to see the positioning of of the uh
- 15:34suitcase
- 15:36[Music]
- 15:59so the positioning of the suitcase where
- 16:01it is on the floor and you heard George
- 16:03was still alive there saying Sarah uh
- 16:06again pleading for his life let's take a
- 16:08look at the first video next to the
- 16:11second
- 16:12video and the one thing that's clear to
- 16:15me is that it it's not in the same
- 16:17position it's moved it is it's
- 16:21it's it's on its back on one and then
- 16:24it's on its on the other side in the
- 16:26other picture so it's not stationary
- 16:30it's not like he's in the suitcase he's
- 16:32locked in and the suitcase stays
- 16:35there something else is at play here
- 16:38brings me to my next question which
- 16:41is how did the suitcase flip over what
- 16:45what's going on there is is it him is is
- 16:49she torturing him what what exactly is
- 16:53going on here that changes the position
- 16:56of that
- 16:57suitcase with Court TV digital content
- 17:00producer Lauren Silver and forensic
- 17:02pathologist Dr priia bannery Lauren is
- 17:05there any evidence or statements
- 17:07relative to the positioning of the
- 17:10suitcase because it's obviously on
- 17:13different sides flipped over from video
- 17:15one to video
- 17:17two well I I ConEd through the documents
- 17:20and she is very clear that she had been
- 17:24upstairs the suitcase was downstairs and
- 17:26they got in the suitcase downstairs so
- 17:28she said the suitcase was always
- 17:30downstairs there were some items in
- 17:32there that they wanted to unpack they
- 17:33took them out he got in and then she
- 17:36zipped it up the only mention of the
- 17:38movement which you clear in the videos
- 17:41is in by the detectives themselves in
- 17:43the police report noting on the video
- 17:46that in the first the suitcase is facing
- 17:48downward and you can see George is
- 17:50pressing from inside to get out whereas
- 17:52the second one it's facing upwards and
- 17:55is moved over to the left side of the
- 17:57living room it doesn't doesn't offer any
- 17:59speculation as to how that happened and
- 18:01as far as I know Sarah Boon's never
- 18:03given any
- 18:04explanation let me ask you Dr priia
- 18:06banery um I guess two scenarios I want
- 18:10to talk about one scenario though if she
- 18:12is moving this suitcase around and
- 18:14rolling it
- 18:15around would you expect to find any
- 18:18particular types of injuries uh during
- 18:21the autopsy that could perhaps be
- 18:24consistent with someone being locked in
- 18:25a suitcase and sort of tossed around in
- 18:28that
- 18:31suitcase yeah I don't I don't know the
- 18:33exact model of the suitcase but
- 18:35obviously that would be available to my
- 18:37colleagues often times I think you would
- 18:39look for Marks like whether it's be
- 18:42contusion so bruising from any sort of
- 18:45ribbing
- 18:46handle uh the wheels jutting in any kind
- 18:49of Hardware or outpouchings usually I
- 18:53mean it's pretty smooth but you don't
- 18:54know how he's like you know scrunched up
- 18:57in there the one thing I want to point
- 18:59out though is if and this is pure
- 19:01speculation if it was twisted while he
- 19:04was alive you can see that the zipper is
- 19:08now on the bottom right if we're moving
- 19:10from position one
- 19:12being uh on the rightand side of my
- 19:15screen to the side you know where it
- 19:18flips over on the rug now uh the sort of
- 19:22lid if you will the zipper portion is
- 19:24now on the floor that's impossible to
- 19:27exate yourself from even if if he's
- 19:29trying to undo the zipper which is
- 19:31faulty and then of itself you can see
- 19:33how is he going to LIF lift the lid off
- 19:35even if he's trying to kick you know I
- 19:37don't think it it's so small a grown man
- 19:40even if he's fa is gonna have a very
- 19:42difficult time getting out now there's a
- 19:45video posted on Deep dive True Crime on
- 19:48YouTube which appears to feature audio
- 19:50from a police interview with Sarah
- 19:53Boon's neighbor now in it he describes
- 19:55hearing a loud crash let's take a listen
- 20:00do you recall hearing anything coming
- 20:03from apartment 3 while you were um after
- 20:06you had gotten home uh around 10:30 or
- 20:1011:00 there was a very loud crashing
- 20:13sound where uh I believe I'm not sure I
- 20:15haven't been in there har my room but I
- 20:18believe it's the location of the
- 20:20staircase okay so a little bit above a
- 20:24very loud you said crashing sound yeah
- 20:27like it sounded like something been like
- 20:29walking down the
- 20:31stairs cuz it started up high and then
- 20:33it ended um
- 20:37low okay Dr priia banery if again if
- 20:41this suitcase with a man inside shut is
- 20:46rolled down a
- 20:48staircase what type of injuries would
- 20:50you expect and would you expect someone
- 20:53to still be conscious and be able to
- 20:55talk the way um George was when he was
- 20:58begging for his
- 20:59life sure just to clarify are you asking
- 21:02whether he's already inside the suitcase
- 21:04as he goes down the stairs oh yeah
- 21:06inside the suitcase being rolled down
- 21:08the stairs yeah well that's a whole
- 21:10another can of worms you can imagine as
- 21:12that tumbling motion is in there that
- 21:15could he could bang around and at least
- 21:18I know it's a softsided suitcase but
- 21:19there has to be some reinforcement frame
- 21:21in there those can add you know bumps
- 21:24and bruises to him um so you should see
- 21:27some unexplained injuries in that Source
- 21:29I I don't think there is any significant
- 21:31head trauma from what I wrot read about
- 21:34his cause of death it was all the
- 21:37latest appication Dr priia banery Lauren
- 21:41Silver thank you both so much a lot more
- 21:44to uncover I'm Vinnie palan and we'll
- 21:46keep digging for answers as the
- 21:47investigation continues
- 22:15I'm VI polyan we continue our
- 22:16investigation of Sarah Boone and the
- 22:18suitcase murder trial the biggest issue
- 22:21for Sarah Boon is that she recorded
- 22:23herself taunting the victim George
- 22:26Torres while he begged for his life from
- 22:28inside a suitcase that inexplicable
- 22:31behavior is what she'll need to explain
- 22:34at trial here's the
- 22:40story Sarah Boon and George Torres were
- 22:43involved in an on again off again
- 22:44tumultuous relationship filled with
- 22:47accusations of cheating and abuse but on
- 22:50February 23rd 2020 Sarah and George were
- 22:53together at her home spending some time
- 22:56together drinking but at some point that
- 22:58night for some reason George ended up
- 23:01locked inside of a suitcase while Sarah
- 23:04taunted him as she recorded a video
- 23:07George tragically died and now Sarah is
- 23:09facing murder charges and there are
- 23:11still many lingering questions in this
- 23:14case about their relationship and
- 23:16exactly why Sarah didn't open that
- 23:19suitcase and just let George
- 23:23out you know sometimes going into a
- 23:25trial we know some of the facts and we
- 23:28know a little bit about the defendant
- 23:30and what they may or may not have said
- 23:32this case is different Sarah Boone um
- 23:34from the 911 call to to the uh interview
- 23:39SL interrogation to the body cam video
- 23:43from the responding officers we get to
- 23:45hear her um tell her story so I want to
- 23:49play for you right now uh body cam video
- 23:53from the next day when you have the the
- 23:54off the responding officer speaking with
- 23:56Sarah Boon and trying to get a an
- 23:59understanding of of what's going on here
- 24:01let's take a look we have a puzzle that
- 24:04we started in there okay we've been
- 24:05doing art TR to take the stuff off the
- 24:07wall to make new AR up there like having
- 24:10a good time with one another but we're
- 24:11drinking we had a bottle of wine last
- 24:13night okay so then it's like we decided
- 24:15to play hide and seek right okay so he
- 24:18gets in the suitcase okay who is this
- 24:20guy that's my ex-husband my former
- 24:22husband how he lives here with you guys
- 24:24no I called him over here okay okay I
- 24:27didn't know what to do okay I didn't
- 24:29know what to do okay so then he came
- 24:31over here here let's talk in private
- 24:33okay I called you
- 24:35guys it's like
- 24:37a the problem is is I fell asleep I fell
- 24:41asleep when did you do CPR this morning
- 24:44when I found it before you called yes
- 24:47yes 1:00 right now I tried I was awake
- 24:52but I actually got out of the bed at
- 24:54like 12:30ish whatever so I came
- 24:56downstairs and I was like he's in the
- 24:58suitcase still and that's when I found
- 25:01him and I took him out and tried doing
- 25:02CPR and then I called him and then I
- 25:04called you guys did he get here before
- 25:06the fire department down here who your
- 25:08husband or your ex-husband okay where
- 25:09did he live at uh right down the street
- 25:12okay so you were playing and who zipped
- 25:15him up and I did but then I fell asleep
- 25:18okay okay you're okay I don't I wasn't
- 25:21here I'm just trying to figure out what
- 25:22happened I fell asleep so I don't know
- 25:23if they suffocated or like had an
- 25:25aneurysm or a heart attack or what what
- 25:27kind of medical conditions that you had
- 25:29nothing that I know of nothing that you
- 25:31know of take any medical last night no
- 25:35all we had was a bottle of wine
- 25:37literally just a bottle of wine okay
- 25:39doing puzzle artwork then we decided to
- 25:41play hide and seat M that's all that
- 25:44happened so that's that's her story to
- 25:47the responding officer but as I as I
- 25:49told you that's not the only person
- 25:52she's uh talking to and and that her
- 25:55story or her statements are recorded so
- 25:58that brings me to my next question and
- 26:00it's an important one for the trial is
- 26:02Sarah Boon's story
- 26:04consistent how many times have we seen
- 26:07cases where stories change and you hear
- 26:10those arguments in the courtroom that
- 26:11the story has evolved the story has
- 26:14change well is her story consistent here
- 26:17with what happened joining me Sarah
- 26:20Boon's new
- 26:22attorney James Owens is with us and
- 26:25James I understand you're preparing for
- 26:26trial so I know there may be some things
- 26:29you can't talk about I just want to let
- 26:30the viewers know um that that's part of
- 26:33the deal when we bring on on the lawyer
- 26:35and thank you so much for being here
- 26:37also with us a sar's former defense
- 26:39attorney Frank bankowitz so thank you
- 26:42both for being here I do appreciate it
- 26:45so I wanted to point out a couple of
- 26:48scenarios here and kind of get your your
- 26:50your take on it and I'll begin with um
- 26:54Sarah Boon talking about when she woke
- 26:56up um
- 26:59in one statement Sarah woke up to her
- 27:01cell phone ringing multiple times around
- 27:031100 hours this is in a police statement
- 27:05she went downstairs did not see George
- 27:07anywhere in the apartment she then
- 27:09realizes that he was possibly still
- 27:11inside the suitcase Sarah unzipped the
- 27:13suitcase and found George unresponsive
- 27:15and not
- 27:16breathing however on the on the body cam
- 27:19video I I want to play that so we can
- 27:22see if it's consistent with that
- 27:25version when did you do CPR this morning
- 27:28when I found it before you called
- 27:31yes 1:00 right now I tried I was awake
- 27:36but I actually got out of the bed at
- 27:38like 12:30ish
- 27:40whatever okay so so James is is there a
- 27:43problem here and when she's getting up
- 27:46or is is this story uh consistent at
- 27:49least this part of when she gets up the
- 27:51following
- 27:55morning thanks for having me Vinnie um I
- 27:58you know I don't think she had a watch
- 28:00on every time they're asking her
- 28:02questions about the
- 28:05times guessing trying to give him an
- 28:07answer um
- 28:09so don't think she should
- 28:15be looked down upon or considered that
- 28:18she's being
- 28:20evasive I just think she didn't know the
- 28:22time
- 28:23frame Frank from your perspective is is
- 28:26is there a problem with with her story
- 28:28or is it something that that is
- 28:32consistent enough for a jury to say hey
- 28:35every time she's telling the story she's
- 28:37telling the same story about what
- 28:38happened that
- 28:43morning well I I don't know that you can
- 28:46point to in
- 28:47inconsistencies I think it's uh you know
- 28:50she's nervous she's
- 28:52upset uh you know
- 28:54she's basically kind of in a panic mode
- 28:57from what I in the video and what I've
- 28:59seen in the past and I don't know that
- 29:01you can point to those as being
- 29:04inconsistencies all I want to show
- 29:06another um I go to another issue here
- 29:09which is the state of mind that night
- 29:11and what was
- 29:13happening first Sarah mentioned that she
- 29:16and George had been consuming alcohol
- 29:18during the night and she went upstairs
- 29:21and passed out in her bed but here she
- 29:23is in her interview talking about the
- 29:25same issue of drink that night you told
- 29:30me on the yeah but you told me on
- 29:31recording like that you were not drunk
- 29:33he was not drunk you guys were having a
- 29:35good time I don't get I can't get drunk
- 29:38number one I do not want to get drunk I
- 29:42don't like being nomenus having my wits
- 29:45about myself I don't like feeling out of
- 29:47control
- 29:49mhm so I'm just saying you're you're
- 29:52making it sound like like he's a raging
- 29:54alcoholic today and yesterday I was kind
- 29:57of asking you this question questioned
- 29:58and you're like a little defensive like
- 30:00no we're not alcoholics he we are not
- 30:03you know but you guys were both sober on
- 30:07Sunday to your knowledge because when I
- 30:09said you went and passed out you were
- 30:11like no I didn't pass out I just fell
- 30:13asleep so now it's kind of like what is
- 30:16it is were you guys drinking and it got
- 30:18out of hand and it got physical or is it
- 30:23Sunday was one of the better days that
- 30:25we have had in quite some time so so
- 30:29where were you guys at
- 30:31on on drunkenness not drunkenness on
- 30:36Sunday you told us you weren't drunk no
- 30:38I was not drunk I was not
- 30:41drunk okay James from the beginning of
- 30:43my coverage of the story that's always
- 30:44been a big issue because you listen to
- 30:46The Voice it sounds like she's under the
- 30:48influence is this is this a problem um
- 30:52the fact that she seems to be denying
- 30:54that they were drinking denying that she
- 30:55was drunk or was she actually uh sober
- 30:58that
- 31:02night no I think they were drinking and
- 31:05I that
- 31:07um earlier in the day
- 31:10she to the Publix which is a short
- 31:13distance away from their
- 31:16apartment and then later on the day he
- 31:19went a second time to Publix and got
- 31:21another
- 31:22bottle so um both of those and found in
- 31:27the garbage can and the receipts were
- 31:29found some in the apartment so
- 31:33um they were the only in the apartment
- 31:37that night so they they both
- 31:40consumed so so they did they did drink
- 31:43quite a bit Frank uh B wit let me ask
- 31:47you about that issue of the drinking is
- 31:51that a huge problem for Sarah Boon that
- 31:54they were drinking or does this H how
- 31:57does this play in front of a jury and
- 31:59what does it
- 32:04mean well I would agree with Mr Owens uh
- 32:07they were drinking a lot they consumed
- 32:09two full bottles of wine uh they kep
- 32:13finished one and went out and bought it
- 32:15at the second and finished it uh you
- 32:17know whether in her mind at that point
- 32:20in time she can uh establish whether she
- 32:23was drunk or not I think that's going to
- 32:25be a question for the jury and they're
- 32:28going to have to look at all these tapes
- 32:30and you know and look at the actual
- 32:32facts as to what she did where she had
- 32:35gone and the fact that she quote fell
- 32:38asleep uh to me is consistent with being
- 32:41passed out but uh that's to me um
- 32:45fortunately I don't have to deal with
- 32:48that Mr Owens
- 32:49does Mr Owens number nine will be
- 32:52representing Sarah Boon at the trial um
- 32:56this is a big one now I think this is
- 32:57probably the biggest one if there is an
- 33:01inconsistency um from the beginning it
- 33:03seems that Sarah was talking about
- 33:05playing a game of hide and seek that
- 33:07George willingly got into the suitcase
- 33:10Sarah zipped the suitcase up and they
- 33:12were both laughing as she zipped him
- 33:14into the suitcase but now I want to play
- 33:17the last time James you were in court
- 33:19talking about what Sarah's defense is
- 33:22going to be in this
- 33:24case judge the state doesn't know what
- 33:28was what happened the two minutes prior
- 33:31or the the the minutes leading up to the
- 33:34time leading up to the two-minute video
- 33:36the state doesn't know what happened
- 33:38after the two-minute video only Sarah
- 33:40Boone can testify to
- 33:43that that's for her to testify to
- 33:46Florida the appellant has not cited nor
- 33:48is our re research located any Florida
- 33:51case holding that evidence of battered
- 33:53spouse syndrome is admissible where the
- 33:55defendant claims accident rather than
- 33:58self-defense who claims accident who
- 34:00claim whoa are you claiming self-defense
- 34:04yes well that's the first time that I've
- 34:06heard that judge I just mentioned it a
- 34:08while ago the word self-defense never
- 34:09came out of your mouth judge words that
- 34:12you believe that the state's position is
- 34:14what you believe that they're going to
- 34:16try to establish that we don't know what
- 34:17happened before and after that video the
- 34:19words self-defense have never been
- 34:21uttered this afternoon judge for the
- 34:22record we're claiming self-defense we're
- 34:25utilizing the battered spouse syndrome
- 34:27in in conjunction with that defense okay
- 34:30right not accident as they want to
- 34:34allege
- 34:36okay okay James let me ask you if if
- 34:39they're laughing if she says they're
- 34:41laughing when she zipped them in how
- 34:43does that equal self-defense is that
- 34:48inconsistent well like I said in
- 34:51court the video is only two minutes long
- 34:56that Sarah recorded of George in the
- 34:58suitcase
- 35:00so um no one but Sarah knows what
- 35:04happened prior
- 35:07toed and no one but Sarah knows what
- 35:11happened turned off the
- 35:13video
- 35:17so or to testify to and explain what
- 35:21happened all right James Owens and Frank
- 35:24bankert staying with us still to come
- 35:27was was there a history of domestic
- 35:33violence
- 35:35sometimes what I'm supposed to do I'm
- 35:45AF one of the most successful True Crime
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- 35:57coming up next on court
- 36:00TV Sarah Boon is charged with second
- 36:03deegree murder after her boyfriend
- 36:05suffocated inside of a suitcase S I
- 36:07can't Brea I thought he was okay the
- 36:10suitcase murder trial live coverage
- 36:13starting October 7th on court
- 36:18TV sometimes
- 36:20I what I'm supposed to do
- 36:25afri subis
- 36:29fale black dress shirt made my son can't
- 36:33come over here because
- 36:36here that's body camera video from a
- 36:39different incident involving Sarah Boon
- 36:41and George Torres and you hear some some
- 36:44fear in the voice of Sarah Boon there I
- 36:47want to go back now to the suitcase
- 36:49video because I want you to listen
- 36:51closely to what Sarah Boon is
- 36:54saying for everything you've done to me
- 36:57S
- 36:58for everything you've done to
- 37:01me
- 37:04you
- 37:06Sarah you
- 37:08Sarah
- 37:11stupid
- 37:13Sarah that's my name don't wear it
- 37:19up I can't breath
- 37:23babe yeah that's when you do when you
- 37:25choke me
- 37:28this is for everything that's what you
- 37:30get when you choke me it brings me to my
- 37:33next question which I think will be a
- 37:36major issue in this case was there a
- 37:39history of domestic violence Sarah Boon
- 37:44George
- 37:45Torres still with me Sarah Boon new
- 37:48attorney James Owens and her former
- 37:51attorney uh Frank bankowitz um before we
- 37:55talk about this I want to show one more
- 37:56video from another uh uh domestic
- 37:59violence incident this one's from
- 38:00September 4th of
- 38:052019 George was hiding in the bathtub
- 38:08upstairs okay yes
- 38:12so he gave me his side of things I need
- 38:15you to give me your side of things in
- 38:16person right here and know we kind of
- 38:17talked on the phone but I need you to
- 38:18tell me what happened tonight so what
- 38:20happened okay well pardon my language
- 38:24cuz it's not me I was called a
- 38:29and okay and I'm not a mother to my son
- 38:34okay all the while nonetheless I was
- 38:37sleeping before that okay so you're
- 38:39woken up to him calling you names is
- 38:42that what you're saying I thought that
- 38:44I'm like Feed the Beast go outside and
- 38:47smoke a cigarette with him okay try to
- 38:51call while the whole time I was there
- 38:54saying nothing
- 38:57I was called name okay so you guys are
- 39:00smoking a cigarette he was calling your
- 39:02names being verbally aggressive with you
- 39:04verbally
- 39:06Abus before that before that where I'm
- 39:09like I don't want to get hit anymore so
- 39:12I'm just going to go downstairs and
- 39:14smoke a cigarette with try to calm them
- 39:16down okay so you're saying okay I'm
- 39:19trying to get a timeline of things so
- 39:21start start from the beginning and give
- 39:23me the timeline I was asleep I don't not
- 39:25Literal time but in a in reference of
- 39:28incidents how they occur tonight I was
- 39:31asleep and again he comes in and wakes
- 39:33me up he wakes you up okay he's out of
- 39:35sorts okay so I'm trying to figure
- 39:38things out where it's like don't make it
- 39:41worse just go downstairs with him
- 39:43because he gets mad at me because I go
- 39:45to sleep okay I go downstairs smoke a
- 39:49cigarette the whole time I'm being
- 39:52belittle okay pardon me for saying
- 39:55talk okay Frank bankowitz
- 39:59is there a history of domestic violence
- 40:03in this relationship and if so how
- 40:10serious
- 40:12absolutely there's a long history of
- 40:14domestic violence and I'm sure all of
- 40:17that's going to come out or has already
- 40:19come out with regard to The Battered
- 40:21spouse defense that's one of the
- 40:23principal elements uh is to establish
- 40:28uh a history of abuse and there was a
- 40:32long history of abuse in this case
- 40:34history of hospitalizations history of
- 40:37broken bones history of arrests um it
- 40:41it's a
- 40:42classic situation of B spous syndrome in
- 40:45my opinion I want to put this up on the
- 40:48screen Sarah stated this is June 15th
- 40:512019 she was beaten up face head legs
- 40:54and arms she stated that she beg George
- 40:58to stop and George stated you're going
- 41:00to die Sarah stated that the George that
- 41:02George punched her in the head flung her
- 41:04off the bed Sarah stated this incident
- 41:06occurred due to George being upset about
- 41:09Sarah speaking to a male uh James Owens
- 41:13this this history that we are uncovering
- 41:15here is the jury going to see and hear
- 41:19about this
- 41:24history yes
- 41:28the filed a notice of intent to rely
- 41:34on and
- 41:36um in the notice and in the amended
- 41:39notice we alleged that there were prior
- 41:43incidences of
- 41:46abuse and
- 41:48uh Dr Julie
- 41:51Harper to
- 41:53testify on that
- 41:56issue so yes
- 41:58there
- 42:00cooperation in the term in terms of a
- 42:04prior
- 42:05history of
- 42:09George and
- 42:11emotionally and
- 42:13sexually abusing Sarah
- 42:17Boon have there and and I'm looking here
- 42:20at George's arrest history it looks like
- 42:22June 15th arrested for battery June 18th
- 42:27arrested for violation of pre-trial
- 42:29release making contact with Sarah when
- 42:31he wasn't supposed to April August 28th
- 42:342019 a battery arrest September 4th uh
- 42:37arrested for battery is is all of this
- 42:40connected to Sarah or is there are there
- 42:43other cases that are out there and and
- 42:46do you expect the jury to hear um the
- 42:50history of George Torres uh James
- 42:57yes I believe those instances relate to
- 43:01uh the
- 43:03domestic George and Sarah and I believe
- 43:08there
- 43:08is other
- 43:11incidences as far as how much comes in
- 43:14you know there are rules that come into
- 43:16play in the
- 43:18evidence okay I have to make some
- 43:20decisions about that James I hate to cut
- 43:23you off but we are out of time James
- 43:25Owens we appreciate Frank bankowitz
- 43:27uh thank you both so much you know one
- 43:29of the biggest mysteries surrounding
- 43:30this case has been when will this trial
- 43:32happen Sarah Boon on lawyer number nine
- 43:36but believe it or not it looks like this
- 43:38time it will happen we'll see the trial
- 43:42right here on court TV the question is
- 43:45what will the jury say at the end of all
- 43:48of this I'm Vinny palitan we'll keep
- 43:50digging for answers as the investigation
- 43:52continues
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