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0:02[music]
0:05>> Sadguru
0:06>> Namaskaram.
0:08>> Good morning to you.
0:09>> Good morning.
0:10>> Welcome to the show.
0:11>> Thank you very much.
0:12>> I've been really looking forward to this
0:14one. We actually tried to get you two or
0:16three years ago.
0:17>> Oh, really?
0:18>> And uh so took a bit of but I just want
0:21to say I'm honored to have you here. I'm
0:22very thankful that you're here. And uh
0:25and I'm a very excited to talk to you
0:26about uh a slew of different things.
0:30So
0:31>> [clears throat]
0:31>> you seem like a person that has mastered
0:36being in the moment.
0:39>> [laughter]
0:39>> What What does it mean? Let me address
0:42this properly. See
0:46What is being in the moment? I know
0:49in America this has gone on like this.
0:53Everybody's talking about being in the
0:55moment.
0:56But one moment, Shawn.
0:59Be somewhere else and show me.
1:02>> I mean be present. Be present with
1:05what's going on around
1:06>> somewhere else and show me, no.
1:10Is it possible?
1:11>> It is.
1:11>> Huh?
1:13>> Not in my mind.
1:14In my mind it's possible to be somewhere
1:16else.
1:18>> See
1:20if you sit here and think of New York
1:23you're thinking of New York, you're not
1:24there, right?
1:26>> Correct.
1:26>> If you think of yesterday or of
1:28tomorrow, you're only thinking about it.
1:30So essentially when people say
1:34be in the moment, they're telling you do
1:36not think about the past, do not think
1:38about the future. If you do not think
1:40about the past and future, you will be a
1:42dodo.
1:45Yes or no?
1:46>> Yes.
1:47>> It took millions of years to develop
1:50this brain to this level of capacity
1:52from a single-celled animal to here.
1:54>> Mhm.
1:55>> And now they're telling you
1:57don't think about the past, don't think
1:59about the future because they don't know
2:00how to handle the damn thing.
2:03These kind of philosophies will destroy
2:06humanity.
2:07>> Interesting.
2:08>> You are anyway in the moment.
2:11Why should I tell you be in the moment?
2:13I'm telling you think of a thousand
2:15things. What is your problem?
2:18The more you wish to do in this world,
2:20the more you have to think, isn't it?
2:22>> Correct.
2:24>> So, don't think about anything except
2:26what is here. Is a silly way to live?
2:29I have at least 12 to 14 tracks in my
2:31mind all the time running.
2:34Otherwise, how do you do everything?
2:36>> Well, how do you balance that?
2:38>> Hey, why are you off balance I'm asking?
2:42You ask a child, a toddler
2:45Look, this this this is walking because
2:47he's yet to know how to balance on two
2:49two legs. Do I ask you, "How are you
2:52Sean, you came walking down the stairs?
2:54How are you balancing?" You'll think I'm
2:56stupid or no?
3:01>> I see.
3:01>> So, I'm saying when it comes to the use
3:04of the mind, unfortunately, our
3:06education systems have left humanity
3:08largely crippled.
3:10They never taught you how to use this.
3:12They taught you how to use every other
3:14gadget in the world except this. This is
3:16the most sophisticated technology, human
3:19mechanism, isn't it?
3:20>> It is.
3:21>> And human mechanism is not just body.
3:25It's a combination of body, mind,
3:27energy, emotion, everything together.
3:30Only when you handle all these things
3:32well, in some way you can do something
3:34significant and you also be well.
3:37Otherwise, if you do something
3:38significant, you are broken. Otherwise,
3:40you do nothing, you dope and sit in the
3:42corner.
3:43Is that the way human human being should
3:45live?
3:46>> No.
3:48>> So, I am not an expert in being in the
3:50moment. The whole creation is in this
3:52moment. What is my business to be
3:55elsewhere?
3:58>> So, you're you're telling me that
4:02your mind wanders just as much as
4:04everybody else's.
4:05>> Much more.
4:06>> Much more.
4:07>> Lot more.
4:10Many times more.
4:12>> And that doesn't bother you at all.
4:14>> Why should it?
4:15>> Well,
4:16>> Your heart is beating, does it bother
4:17you? Should I stop it? Tell me.
4:20>> No.
4:21>> Your liver, shall I stop it?
4:22>> No.
4:23>> It's not bothering you?
4:25So much they're doing right, all of
4:27them.
4:29Your heart, liver, kidney, spleen doing
4:31many many things right now. Is it
4:33bothering you? Shall we stop it? Only
4:35your brain you want to stop. What's your
4:37problem with that?
4:38>> Well,
4:39>> [laughter]
4:39>> sometimes my sometimes my thoughts do
4:42bother me.
4:44>> No, no.
4:44>> They keep me up.
4:45>> You do not want to stop the activity of
4:47your heart or liver or kidney or spleen.
4:50But only your brain activity you want to
4:53stop. Why I'm asking you?
4:56>> I don't like it when I'm talking to
4:58somebody
4:59and I can't remember the conversation
5:01because my mind is in a completely
5:03different world. Thinking about
5:05something different.
5:06>> So, if your heart is working, your liver
5:08doesn't work, is it?
5:13It's a complex system. All of them work
5:15at once, isn't it?
5:17So, similarly, your mind is also made
5:20like this. It can do a thousand things
5:21at once.
5:23But unfortunately, we've made them so
5:25linear.
5:27With our kind of thinking, our kind of
5:29education system, our idea of how to
5:31look at science, all these things have
5:34made us so linear. Now, if two things
5:37come,
5:39confused.
5:41You've been in combat. If you can't
5:43handle 10 things at a time, you're dead
5:45man.
5:46>> Mhm.
5:50>> Yes or no?
5:53>> Well, don't you think that
5:55or do you think that
5:57being in the moment with another human
5:59being will develop a deeper
6:01relationship?
6:03Family, friends.
6:04>> No, I am asking you.
6:07Can you be in any other moment in other
6:09than this moment I'm asking?
6:11>> No.
6:12>> Then why such a teaching?
6:17>> I don't know.
6:19>> [laughter]
6:19>> A lot of trash is being dispensed in the
6:21world.
6:24>> How do you deepen your relationships?
6:26>> Me, I'm doing wonderfully well well with
6:28everybody around me.
6:30>> I see that.
6:33>> Not one, two, millions of them.
6:36Because
6:37human relationships are essentially
6:40need-based.
6:42You need some somebody physically, you
6:44need somebody else mentally, you need
6:46somebody else emotionally, you need
6:48somebody else financially, like this.
6:51The human relationships are largely
6:54built on their needs.
6:57Physical needs, psychological needs,
7:00emotional needs, social needs,
7:03maybe financial needs, and other kinds
7:05of needs.
7:08As long as it's need-based.
7:12If you are coming to me for a certain
7:13need, if I don't fulfill that need,
7:16you will break this relationship.
7:21But
7:23if you hold a relationship
7:25beyond the needs,
7:27then
7:29sometimes your needs may be fulfilled,
7:31sometimes they are not.
7:35But if you address another human being
7:37as a human being,
7:39not as somebody who fulfills this or
7:42that for you,
7:43then there's a genuine relationship.
7:46Very few people even have the privilege
7:49of having such relationships.
7:52Very few human beings experience the
7:54beauty of such a relationship where
7:56there's nothing to fulfill.
7:58It's wonderful. It's a privilege just to
8:00be with another human being.
8:02If you don't bring that into you,
8:05this is also there. Two people come
8:07together.
8:10Now, this person has a need.
8:13Initially, you go there because you have
8:14a need. After some time, you think they
8:17have a need for you.
8:19Then it becomes ugly.
8:21If you see someone else is
8:24fulfilling your needs,
8:26there'll be gratitude. There will be a
8:29deep sense of, you know, connect.
8:32But I sit here and think
8:34I'm fulfilling your need,
8:36then this turns ugly, isn't it?
8:41Initially, it starts one way. After some
8:43time, they'll make it another way.
8:46>> Are you saying those relationships
8:47aren't important?
8:48>> See, for a human being, relationships
8:50are important
8:52on two levels.
8:55For a whole lot of human beings, what
8:58kind of relationships they hold in their
9:00life at various levels
9:03determine the very quality of their
9:04life.
9:06This is a fact for most human beings.
9:09Very few people are above that.
9:11And
9:13above all,
9:18there are two ways to this.
9:21One is need-based relationships. Okay, I
9:24give you this, you give me that. So,
9:25transactional.
9:28Transactions have to be managed always
9:30carefully.
9:32If you do a wrong transaction,
9:34that means if both of us are transacting
9:37and you feel that I'm giving you an
9:39unfair deal,
9:41doesn't matter how many years you know
9:43me, suddenly you will become
9:47you know, you'll bristle up. Great
9:49friends turn against each other, lovers
9:50turn against turn against each other,
9:52because the deal has gone bad.
9:54Essentially, the transaction has gone
9:56bad, isn't it?
9:57>> Mhm.
9:59>> So, there are transactional
10:00relationships.
10:02But, there can be relationships which
10:05are not looking forward to any
10:06transaction.
10:09Simply being together.
10:12So, even if the being together is a
10:14need, then it becomes a transaction.
10:18If I want to be with you, please spend
10:19this much time with me. If you cannot,
10:22then I will become
10:24unhappy about it.
10:26To come to a place
10:28where
10:30I'm asking you as a life, you're a life,
10:32right, Shawn?
10:33>> Mhm.
10:36>> I'm asking this question in a very
10:38different way.
10:40I'm not asking are you living? I'm
10:42asking you, are you a piece of life?
10:45>> Yes.
10:45>> As a life,
10:47you think this a complete life?
10:51>> Do I think I have a complete life?
10:53>> No, no. I'm not talking about you having
10:55a complete life. Are Is this a complete
10:57life?
10:58>> Yes.
10:58>> It is.
11:00But, there's only one part of you. See,
11:03the physical body, all the mechanisms
11:05inside, very complex, but they all feel
11:08like they're complete.
11:10There's only one part of you which
11:12struggles, which is your psychological
11:13space,
11:15which feels incomplete.
11:18There many aspects to this. A large
11:21aspect of it is trained, cultured by
11:23societies in which you live. So, if you
11:27join the army, there they're trying to
11:29reverse the culture.
11:30You're thrown somewhere alone, you to be
11:32there alone, by yourself,
11:34without anybody's anything.
11:37Maybe as a survival process,
11:40not as a way of being.
11:43But a yogi is withdrawing just for
11:45himself, just to see if he's a complete
11:47life or he's a half a life.
11:50Most people are feeling like half a life
11:53because if there was not one more
11:55person, this person, that person around
11:57them, they'll feel lost.
12:00To
12:01to act in the world, to be effective in
12:03the world, you need to hold good
12:05relationships.
12:06If people around you don't love you and
12:09they want to do the best for you,
12:11they will want to do the best for you
12:13only if they have some sense of love for
12:15you.
12:17But one of the topmost
12:19global companies in the world, top 25
12:22executives are with me for 3 days in a
12:24resort. I have nine volunteers. You
12:27know, our organization is a volunteer
12:30organization. There are over 7,000
12:33uh whatever number of
12:35maybe 7,300 or 400 full-time volunteers,
12:38over 19 million part-time volunteers.
12:41>> Wow.
12:42>> All of them doing very variety of work
12:45globally.
12:46So, these nine guys are working for me.
12:48As you must have seen, two volunteers
12:49came here and they've been communicating
12:51with your teams.
12:54Volunteers means they're not paid
12:56employees. They're doing it because they
12:58want to do it.
13:01So, these nine people are going about
13:02doing whatever they're doing.
13:04These top 25 executives of this major
13:07company in the world, a company that
13:08everyone knows on the planet.
13:11I don't want to name them.
13:13So, they observe this and the second day
13:16ask, you know, they're always looking
13:17for attrition.
13:20They ask, "Sadhguru, where do you get
13:21these people?"
13:24I said, "You don't get such people. You
13:25have to make them.
13:28How do you make them?
13:30I said you have to make them fall in
13:32love with you.
13:35How do we do that?
13:37Then I say,
13:39first you have to fall in love with
13:40them.
13:42Then they say, "Oh, they don't pay us
13:44for that."
13:47>> [laughter]
13:49>> So, when your entire life is
13:51transactional, you live one way.
13:56When you
13:57operate out of
14:00inclusiveness of life,
14:02you made everything a part of yourself.
14:05Now, it's different.
14:07See, right now,
14:08the air that you breathe as you sit here
14:11is coming from elsewhere, isn't it? The
14:14plants are exhaling, the trees are
14:15exhaling, we are inhaling. The water
14:18that you drink is coming from elsewhere,
14:19the food that you eat is coming from
14:21elsewhere.
14:22There's a transaction.
14:25It's If you treat it only as a
14:27transaction, you live a very superficial
14:30life, which unfortunately is beginning
14:33to happen to modern societies.
14:36But, actually,
14:37this is life-making material, isn't it?
14:39The air that we breathe, the water that
14:40we drink, the food that we eat.
14:43Our very bodies we slowly gathered with
14:45these things, isn't it?
14:48So, if you recognize
14:50that these are all the things making our
14:53life, this is not things to transact
14:56with.
14:58Then, we will treat them very
15:00differently.
15:01Beyond transactions.
15:03When you conduct relationships beyond
15:06transactional value of what it is, there
15:08may be transactions, but if you treat it
15:10beyond transactional value, then the
15:13relationships are better rooted and they
15:15function much better.
15:20And more profound experience of life,
15:22above all.
15:24After all, with life
15:27there only two things in terms of
15:29experience.
15:31In terms of action, another thing.
15:33Let's say three things.
15:36When you sit here for any human being,
15:40first thing is you want pleasantness of
15:42life. You want to feel pleasant.
15:44Pleasantness means what?
15:46If you feel pleasant in the body, we
15:48call this health.
15:50You want it?
15:53Say clearly to Sean. Yes.
15:56Because if ill health comes,
15:59everything that matters to our life will
16:01go away, isn't it? Mhm. Health becomes
16:04full-time job.
16:06Right now there is health, so we do many
16:08things. No health, we'll do only that,
16:12pursuing health.
16:14So, when you say yes, don't say yes to
16:16me. You must say yes in such a way every
16:18cell in the body hears it. It's a very
16:21important. Every cell in this body must
16:24hear that you want health.
16:26Mixed messages should not happen.
16:29>> Okay.
16:30>> So, pleasantness of the body we call as
16:32health.
16:33If it becomes very pleasant, we call it
16:35pleasure.
16:37Well, that also people want.
16:40If man becomes pleasant, we call it
16:42peace. You want?
16:45>> Yes.
16:46>> It becomes very pleasant, we call it
16:48joy.
16:49>> Yes.
16:51>> If your emotions become pleasant, we
16:53call this love.
16:56>> Yes.
16:57>> If it becomes very pleasant, we call it
16:59compassion.
17:01If our surroundings become If our very
17:04life energies become pleasant, we call
17:06this blissfulness.
17:09If it becomes very pleasant, we call it
17:11ecstasy.
17:13If our surroundings become pleasant, we
17:16call this success.
17:18Only to create pleasantness in our
17:21surroundings,
17:22we need the cooperation
17:25of many people and forces around us.
17:28To create pleasantness of the body,
17:31mind, emotion, and energy is 100%
17:35our business, isn't it?
17:36>> Yes, it is.
17:37>> That business not taken care of right
17:40now
17:41with most of the people on the planet.
17:44There's not stress, distress in most
17:47people.
17:49Though, as a generation of people,
17:53we have more comforts and conveniences
17:55than any generation ever in the history
17:57of humanity, isn't it?
17:59>> It's true.
18:01>> But still, we are not comfortable. We
18:02are not peaceful. So, what's wrong?
18:04Something wrong with the world?
18:06No, we have not learned how to handle
18:08this.
18:11Nothing wrong with the world.
18:13>> What are we doing wrong?
18:14>> Huh?
18:15>> What are we doing wrong?
18:18>> Do you agree with me
18:20that this human mechanism
18:24is the most complex technology in the
18:27world?
18:28>> I would agree with you.
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19:52>> Have you read the user's manual?
19:54>> I have not.
19:57>> Then you're bumbling around with a
19:59sophisticated technology. That's all the
20:01problem is.
20:03>> [laughter]
20:06>> What was the manual?
20:08>> Huh?
20:08>> What manual?
20:09>> User's manual.
20:10>> The user's
20:11>> How do you use it?
20:15>> There is no user's manual.
20:16>> Who says?
20:21You may not come with a tag around your
20:23neck when you come out of your mother's
20:25womb, but it's built into this. If you
20:27pay enough attention, it's all there.
20:30Is it true?
20:31Well, you're a soldier.
20:34You know this well. Is it true?
20:37Among men or women
20:41one person learns to use his body way
20:44better than the other one?
20:47The same body.
20:48>> Yeah.
20:49>> How come?
20:50Figured out something, isn't it?
20:54>> Practice, drive.
20:56>> Doesn't matter. Figured out something.
20:59How is not the point. Somehow figured
21:02out something.
21:04Whether an athlete or a soldier or a
21:06yogi or a cook, or whatever, somebody
21:09figured out something better than the
21:11other. Yes or no?
21:12>> Yes.
21:13>> How did they figure out?
21:15More keener observation to things, isn't
21:18it?
21:19They looked at it better.
21:21They saw a little deeper.
21:24Everybody can use their hands. Somebody
21:26uses it like magic.
21:29People are even doing magic right in
21:30front of your eyes, you can't see what
21:32they're doing.
21:33>> [laughter]
21:39>> Magicians are openly admitting no magic,
21:42it's just
21:43slight of hand.
21:45Right in front of you, they do this.
21:48You and me think we are smart, and
21:49you're watching like this, but
21:51something comes and something goes.
21:54Are they doing or no?
21:57Are they they're doing it? They're doing
21:59it.
22:00Same hands they also got like us, but
22:02they're doing something that we can't
22:03do, right?
22:05>> [laughter]
22:07>> So, our ability to use this mechanism is
22:11still at its minimum.
22:13Because
22:14people have not read the user's manual.
22:17So, my fundamental work is this, to
22:19provide them with a user's manual,
22:22different levels of manual for different
22:24people.
22:26No belief system,
22:29no philosophy, no ideology, no teaching.
22:33Technologies
22:35for well-being.
22:38How to use this better?
22:40How to use it in a way that your own
22:42body and your own mind is not an
22:44impediment in your life.
22:47Well, the army is trying to do it in a
22:48different way.
22:50How you're not an impediment to
22:51yourself, they're trying to kick it out
22:53of you.
22:55It works for that purpose, but it
22:56doesn't work beyond that.
22:59So, those who are effective soldiers, or
23:02athletes or something else where they
23:04performed at a level that most other men
23:06will not perform.
23:09Are still quite incompetent with their
23:11lives, isn't it?
23:13As you figured out one aspect better
23:15than the other. Similarly, if the
23:17similar attention is paid, other aspects
23:19also can be figured out. That's all I'm
23:21saying.
23:22Yes.
23:24How many levels are there?
23:27You shouldn't fix it like that because
23:29See, if you look at the body,
23:32there are many levels, but it'll stop at
23:34some point. Physical body has a limit.
23:39With mind,
23:41it's many more.
23:43But still there is a limit.
23:45But if you explore human consciousness,
23:48there's no such thing.
23:50There's no limit.
23:52Even with the physical world,
23:57we've always said this in yoga.
23:59We call
24:01the universe as an ever-expanding
24:03universe. This is how yoga describes the
24:05universe.
24:08Today, modern scientists have started
24:09saying the same thing that they're
24:11saying it's expanding.
24:14They're not able to figure out where it
24:16begins, where it ends.
24:18So now they're not only saying that we
24:20do not know.
24:22The top physicists are saying we will
24:24never know.
24:26In our perception, we will never know
24:29where it begins, where it ends because
24:31it seems seemingly endless.
24:34So when the physical nature is like
24:36that, you can't figure out where it
24:38begins, where it ends.
24:39When you talk about consciousness,
24:41there's no limit, there's no level.
24:45Just
24:46how much are you cut out for?
24:49>> What exactly does that mean? There's no
24:51limit to consciousness.
24:53What does that mean for us?
24:54>> Let's put it this way. There are four
24:57aspects to human intelligence.
25:02These four
25:04I'll use the Indian terms because they
25:06describe this exactly.
25:11The Sanskrit terms are like this.
25:14First one is called Buddhi.
25:17Which we can largely say is the
25:19intellect.
25:23Would you like your intellect to be
25:24sharp or blunt?
25:28Sharp.
25:30Why do you think so much?
25:32>> [laughter]
25:34>> Because I think there is a
25:38I think there are advantages to being
25:40blunt.
25:40>> Really?
25:41>> Disadvantages as well, but I think with
25:43blunt, if when you're blunt, your
25:45message will
25:47come across
25:49directly, but maybe with less confusion.
25:53>> No, no, I'm not talking about you being
25:55blunt with somebody.
25:57>> Okay.
25:58>> I'm talking about your intellect. You
26:00want it sharp or blunt?
26:03Sharp.
26:04Because the purpose of the intellect is
26:06to penetrate.
26:09Sharper the better, isn't it?
26:12So, if I give you a knife,
26:14I see you're keeping a Rambo knife out
26:15there.
26:16>> [laughter]
26:17>> You want it sharp or blunt?
26:19>> Sharp.
26:20>> Sharp.
26:22Because a blunt object is not called a
26:25knife.
26:27A sharp object which is called a knife.
26:29We don't give a
26:31>> [clears throat]
26:33>> sharp objects or knives to children.
26:35Why?
26:36Is because knife is dangerous?
26:39>> They don't know how to use it.
26:41>> Their hands are not steady.
26:43They may cut themselves or cut somebody
26:45else.
26:47Knife has never been a dangerous thing.
26:51It's never jumped up and stabbed
26:52somebody.
26:54It's the hand that uses it.
26:57One hand uses it to save a life, another
26:59hand uses it to take a life.
27:03So, the instrument of knife is has to be
27:05sharp. The sharper the better.
27:09Similarly, intellect sharper the better.
27:14But, most people are cutting themselves
27:17all the time.
27:22Say, you've been in the army.
27:24>> [laughter]
27:25>> Though you've been in a fighting force,
27:27how many times did you get stabbed?
27:30Zero.
27:31Nothing.
27:32Those who live ordinary lives,
27:35even a mosquito doesn't bite them.
27:38But, from inside they poke themselves
27:40every day.
27:43Because they have a sharp knife.
27:46And they're trying to dull it by dipping
27:48it to these bottles.
27:50Why do you think in the evening they're
27:53soaking their brain in alcohol or drug?
27:56>> Because they're trying to escape
27:57something.
27:58>> No, no, to dull the knife that's cutting
28:00them from inside.
28:01>> Okay.
28:02>> [snorts]
28:02>> Because if from outside, if you're
28:04coming at me with a knife, these bottles
28:06are dangerous for me. Isn't it?
28:08>> Mhm.
28:09>> If from inside I'm cutting myself
28:12up,
28:13to dull my knife, I drink or drug or do
28:16something.
28:18If you dull your knife,
28:21uh maybe it'll give you some relief.
28:23Not a solution.
28:25Isn't it?
28:28Definitely it gives you some relief,
28:29otherwise so many people are not going
28:31into it.
28:33But, it's not a solution.
28:36Essentially, what I'm trying to tell you
28:38is your intellect should be sharp.
28:41But, if you want to handle a sharp
28:43object,
28:45your hand must be steady and you must be
28:47conscious.
28:48If you are like a child, if you are la
28:50la la la la kind, you will cut yourself
28:52up.
28:54Right now, that's all that's happening.
28:56If you had the brain of an earthworm,
28:58you would be quite peaceful.
29:03But you have a human intellect and
29:04you're suffering.
29:06Where do you think all the human
29:07suffering is manufactured? In Franklin,
29:09is it?
29:11>> Where do I think all the human suffering
29:12is manufactured?
29:13>> in Franklin?
29:15>> I don't think so. No.
29:16>> Where?
29:17>> I think it's from within.
29:19>> It's in the head?
29:22In our own head?
29:25So, why are we manufacturing something
29:27that we don't want?
29:28Unconscious handling of the knife, isn't
29:30it?
29:34Have a knife and if you move
29:35unconsciously, your intestines will come
29:37out.
29:39If you have a very sharp knife, you must
29:41be very conscious how you pull it out,
29:43how you put it back. Otherwise, it'll
29:45cut you up.
29:47Because knife doesn't have a mind of its
29:49own. It will do the way you handle it,
29:52isn't it?
29:53>> It's true.
29:54>> The same with your intellect.
29:56If you don't know how to hold it, you
29:58don't even know which is the blade,
30:00which is the handle. The tighter you
30:01hold it, the more it hurts.
30:03It's happening to people every day.
30:06Not a joke.
30:07From a single-celled creature
30:11to evolve a life like this
30:14and to give you a brain of this
30:15capacity, of this cerebral capacity,
30:19it's taken millions of years of research
30:22and development.
30:24You can dismiss this off with one single
30:27word, evolution.
30:30Evolution is not just like that.
30:33It made things right, wrong, right,
30:35wrong, right, wrong and got it this way,
30:37isn't it?
30:38>> Mhm.
30:39>> Trial and error happened
30:41in the evolutionary process.
30:44And
30:46after all this work, this much brain
30:49came.
30:50And now
30:52>> [laughter]
30:53>> this is the worst enemy you have?
30:57See, nobody even you went to battles,
30:58nobody stabbed you.
31:00But from inside it stabs you. What is
31:02this?
31:06I must tell you this, a tragic story.
31:11I saw the stats
31:13where the vets committing suicide is
31:17horrendous.
31:19This happened
31:21with a reasonably popular television
31:24anchor in India
31:26in the southern Indian city of
31:27Hyderabad.
31:31She's just around 33, 34 years of age, a
31:34young woman.
31:36One day she jumps off the fifth floor
31:39window of her apartment.
31:42Kills herself.
31:44She leaves a note,
31:46"No one is responsible for my death.
31:48My brain is my enemy."
31:52I thought
31:53>> [clears throat]
31:55>> this is the greatest gift we have, that
31:58we have intelligence.
32:01Why we are dominating this world is not
32:03because we are the strongest.
32:06Actually, if we didn't have this brain,
32:07a colony of ants could dominate the
32:09human beings.
32:12It's our brain which made us who we are.
32:14But now brain is the enemy for most
32:17people.
32:18Some unfortunately
32:21they go to this extent that they take
32:22their own life. Others daily poking
32:25themselves and suffering in thousand
32:27different ways. You can call it stress,
32:29you can call it anxiety, you can call it
32:31distress, depression, this, that. You
32:33can give a thousand names. Essentially,
32:36your intelligence is turned against you,
32:39isn't it?
32:42If your intelligence worked for you,
32:46would you keep yourself blissful or
32:47miserable?
32:48>> Yes.
32:49>> Blissful, isn't it?
32:51So, essentially, you don't know how to
32:53hold hold the sharp knife.
32:58You have been given a sharp knife and
33:00this sharpened over millions of years to
33:02get this to this place, and now you
33:04don't know how to hold it. Isn't it a
33:06tragedy? It is.
33:09So, that's what I am trying to fix all
33:11the time. How to hold your stupid knife.
33:15Don't hold it like this. Okay?
33:17[laughter]
33:21Don't keep poking yourself for what?
33:24You can use these fingers
33:26to do many things, or you can use these
33:28two two fingers to poke your own
33:30eyeballs. What is the point?
33:34So, this is what is happening because
33:37the hand has not been trained.
33:40So, let me use this analogy. Knife and
33:43the hand.
33:45So, the second part of this first part
33:46of the mind, we call it as buddhi, or
33:48the intellect.
33:51Sharper, the better.
33:53But by itself, it cannot do anything.
33:56A hand should pick it up.
33:58Then only it works, the knife.
34:01The hand, we call ahankara.
34:04Ahankara literally means
34:08the identity.
34:10See, you are identified as an American
34:12man.
34:14So, you go and fight for America.
34:18You could die.
34:20Possible?
34:21Fortunately, you're here, but many did
34:23not come back.
34:26Because
34:27of your identity, you're willing to
34:29stake your life.
34:32In many ways, life is the most precious
34:34thing.
34:35But, our identity becomes larger than
34:37that.
34:39That we are identified as American or
34:41Indian or this or that,
34:43white, black, yellow, green, whatever we
34:46are.
34:47Once we identify ourselves with
34:50something,
34:52the intellect works only to protect that
34:54identity.
34:55So, if you see a knife which is sharp,
34:58the hand that holds this your identity.
35:01So, how you identify yourself is very
35:03important.
35:05If your knife is super capable,
35:08it's extremely important the hand that
35:11holds it also must be equally steady and
35:13stable, isn't it?
35:16For this to happen, we we devise
35:18something in the yogic systems.
35:22When we want to start education for a
35:25child, which was usually at the age of
35:2712,
35:28today they're starting at 3 and 1/2,
35:30that's a wrong thing to do. Because
35:33people saw in ancient times, till 12
35:36years of age, the only thing that should
35:37happen is the body and brain should grow
35:40to its full size. Child should eat well,
35:43play well, sleep well.
35:45That's all.
35:47No ABC, no 123, no nonsense, no becoming
35:50a CEO at the age of 9.
35:53>> [laughter]
35:53>> You know, today
35:54all this happening.
35:56Because we are in a hurry to live.
35:58So, till 12 years of age, no teaching,
36:01child should simply
36:03grow physically, mentally, with brain
36:05and body should grow.
36:07So, when we initiate a child into
36:10education, because education is not seen
36:13as accumulation of knowledge, education
36:15is seen as empowerment.
36:20Now, uh you're trained as a soldier,
36:23there's a certain empowerment.
36:25You could do certain things that I
36:26cannot do.
36:29So, how you use this empowerment is
36:31extremely important.
36:34Otherwise, you could be a very dangerous
36:35man.
36:36Either for others or for yourself.
36:39So many people who get this empowerment
36:42in so many different ways use it in
36:45terrible ways in in the world.
36:48People do it all the time.
36:50The same goes for education.
36:52Education is an empowerment.
36:55So, if you have to empower a human
36:57being, what should we do? First thing we
36:59did was we created a mantra.
37:02It's called Aham Brahmasmi.
37:04What this means is a child of 12
37:07identifies that my identity is cosmic.
37:13I belong to the family, but my identity
37:16is not of the family. I belong to this
37:18community, but my identity is not of
37:21community. I belong to this nation, but
37:23my identity is not of nationality. I
37:26belong to this species, but my identity
37:29is not to the species. My identity is
37:31cosmic, all-inclusive.
37:34Because now I'm being empowered.
37:37If I am empowered like this,
37:39uh my identity should be as large as
37:41possible.
37:43Because
37:44see, we think there are good people and
37:47bad people and this and that. No.
37:49There's only limited identity and a
37:51larger identity.
37:53>> I literally just had this conversation
37:55with my wife last night.
37:59>> She had with you or you had with her?
38:01>> [laughter]
38:03>> Once your identity is limited,
38:06then
38:09see, what you call as crime is just
38:11that.
38:12Right now, I think I should be well. I
38:14don't care what happens to you. Because
38:16my identity with this
38:19this is a crime, isn't it?
38:24So, now I think no, no, Shawn is my
38:26friend. We two are one. All the other
38:28guys are different.
38:31We can do whatever we want with them.
38:33>> [clears throat]
38:33>> So, this will happen with family, with
38:36community, with society, with
38:37nationality, with race, religion. We are
38:40doing this in a thousand ways. So, we
38:42always did this before education starts.
38:45First thing is my identity is cosmic.
38:48That is all life is included in this.
38:52>> So, you're saying you don't identify
38:53with any particular group or people. You
38:56You're Your identity is cosmic.
38:58>> Myself?
38:58>> Yes.
38:59>> Definitely not. That's why I'm called a
39:00yogi.
39:02The word yoga means that.
39:03>> Mhm.
39:04>> Yoga means union.
39:06Union between what and what?
39:09Who created the separation?
39:11You think the planet can exist without
39:13the sun?
39:14>> No.
39:15>> Or you think the sun can exist without
39:16the universe?
39:17>> It cannot.
39:18>> Universe can exist without the galaxy?
39:20Who is separating this?
39:22We in our small heads, isn't it?
39:28So, when you realize experientially that
39:30actually there is no separation,
39:33then we say you're in yoga.
39:35So, anyway, let's finish this.
39:37There is a buddhi or the intellect,
39:40which is a sharp knife.
39:42And there's a hand that holds it.
39:44Now, this whole hand is identity.
39:47This training is completely missing in
39:49the world, across the world. Everybody
39:52identifying with a football team and
39:54fighting with other guys, identifying
39:56with a community and fighting with other
39:57community, nation and other nation.
40:00Endlessly we are going on.
40:03Because See, look at this. What is it
40:06that is causing maximum damage on the
40:08planet? Educated people or uneducated
40:10people?
40:11>> Educated people.
40:13>> See?
40:13The empowerment has turned against us,
40:15isn't it?
40:17Such a tremendous empowerment of
40:19education, understanding of science,
40:21technology, this is what has turned
40:23against us because the hand that holds
40:26is not well trained.
40:31So, first part is buddhi, second is
40:34ahankara, this is the identity, the
40:37third is called manas, this is a silo of
40:40memory.
40:42We identify eight types of memory.
40:46There's evolutionary memory.
40:48There's elemental memory, there's
40:50elemental memory, there's evolutionary
40:52memory, genetic memory,
40:54and
40:56conscious and unconscious levels of
40:58memory, articulate and inarticulate
41:00levels of memory, and the surface memory
41:03that you have on a daily basis. You
41:04remember what you ate for breakfast. You
41:06remember the conversation that you had
41:08with your spouse.
41:10This is surface level of memory.
41:13So, eight types of memory. All of them
41:16are playing with you right now.
41:18Do you remember
41:20how your 10 generations ago, how your
41:23great great great great grandfather was?
41:26>> No.
41:27>> No, but his nose is sitting on your
41:29face.
41:30Isn't it?
41:31>> His nose is sitting on my face.
41:33>> Yeah.
41:34You resemble him in some way, isn't it
41:36so?
41:38A million years ago, how your
41:39forefathers were.
41:41Even your skin, epithelial
41:42[clears throat] cells remember the tone
41:44of the skin even today, isn't it?
41:48So, I'm saying memory, this is a body of
41:50memory.
41:51Enormous memory.
41:53Today you are looking in a certain way,
41:55you sit in a certain way because your
41:57genetics does those things. Beyond that,
42:01you have this form because this is an
42:03evolutionary memory. Suddenly you can't
42:05look like a tiger or a lion. You can
42:07only look like this because there's
42:09evolutionary memory which decides this
42:11is a human being.
42:13So, eight forms of memory which are
42:15ruling you every moment of your life.
42:19So, between the intellect
42:22and the silo of memory, there is this
42:25hand which is the identity.
42:28If this identity creates the context for
42:31your life.
42:33Identity is not action. Identity gives
42:35you the context.
42:38If you don't set the right context,
42:40everything that you do can be wrong.
42:44Everything that you do can be against
42:46somebody or yourself. Against another
42:48life or this own life this life.
42:51All the time.
42:53This is what is happening to human
42:54beings right now.
42:56Because there is such a complex web of
42:58memory within us which is what makes us
43:01sophisticated life, which is what makes
43:04us
43:05a kind of a rich life.
43:08But, if you do not know how to handle
43:11the context of that, then everything
43:13seems to be a problem.
43:16Everything people remember their
43:18suffering, isn't it?
43:20See, what are people suffering? They
43:21think why this whole
43:23being in the moment has come is because
43:25people are suffering their memory and
43:27their imagination both.
43:29What happened yesterday, they already
43:30suffer.
43:31>> Well, they're also suffering from their
43:33desires.
43:35>> I'll come to that.
43:36>> Okay.
43:36>> See, what happened 10 years ago, they
43:39can suffer today. Isn't it?
43:41>> Say that again.
43:42>> What happened 10 years ago, you can sit
43:45here and suffer, isn't it?
43:47>> Yeah.
43:47>> So, are you suffering life or you
43:49suffering memory?
43:50>> Both.
43:51>> No, no, no.
43:53See, what happened 10 years ago, is it
43:55alive right now?
43:56>> No.
43:56>> No. So, are you suffering life or are
43:59you suffering your memories?
44:02>> Memory.
44:02>> You're suffering your memory. What may
44:04happen day after tomorrow, you already
44:06suffer. Are you suffering life or are
44:08you suffering imagination?
44:10>> Imagination.
44:12>> So, most of the time human beings are
44:14suffering their memory and imagination.
44:16So, somebody
44:18turns out a philosophy, be in the
44:20moment.
44:21You can't be anywhere else. You can only
44:23be in the moment. There is no other way
44:25to be.
44:26Essentially, they are saying don't think
44:28about yesterday and tomorrow.
44:30Then you'll be a dodo life.
44:32Not a worthwhile life in any way. So,
44:34let's go to that later. Right now,
44:37there is an intellect, there is an
44:39identity which holds it. Depending on
44:42what this identity is, accordingly this
44:44intellect will function.
44:47If I hold my identity as
44:50by my nation or by my race or religion
44:53or family or whatever,
44:56or my individuality,
44:58that's how my intellect will function.
45:01Now, this is being fueled by by memory.
45:05If you cut the memory off, your
45:07intellect is useless. It's like if your
45:09computer has no memory card in it,
45:13it's a blank screen.
45:14Your intellect is just like that. If you
45:16remove the memory,
45:18it may be sharp, but it can't do nothing
45:20because there's no memory. It won't know
45:21where to act.
45:25So, these three instruments are
45:27functioning
45:28and we have not handled We are only
45:31handling one aspect, loading it up with
45:33more and more memory.
45:35Fortunately, AI is coming. It will
45:36handle our memory load.
45:38>> [laughter]
45:39>> We don't have to walk around like stupid
45:41data centers. Data centers are being
45:43built.
45:45>> [laughter]
45:45>> But right now, what you call as
45:47education is build some silly data
45:50center in your head.
45:53Don't take me wrong. With all due
45:55respect to all those professions, I'm
45:57saying this.
45:59See, if you read three books,
46:02you can become a school teacher.
46:05If you read 10 books, you can become a
46:07professor.
46:10If you read just one book, you can claim
46:12you're a agent of God.
46:15I read nothing.
46:16People accuse me that I'm a mystic.
46:18>> [laughter]
46:19>> Strange world.
46:22We need to change this.
46:23>> [laughter]
46:24>> Very important.
46:26Because base memory-based world we have
46:30created.
46:31So, this is what AI is going to disturb.
46:35Our memory will look puny and
46:37insignificant and useless compared to
46:39what the machine can do. And it's
46:41fantastic. Anyway,
46:43we were talking about consciousness.
46:44There's a fourth dimension of
46:46intelligence.
46:49Which is in yoga we refer to this as
46:51chitta.
46:53Chitta means there is an intelligence
46:56within you,
46:57which is life's fundamental
46:59intelligence,
47:01which is unsullied by memory. There's no
47:04memory in it. It's pure intelligence.
47:09This is the source of creation. It's
47:10everywhere. It's not just in me or you.
47:12You and me have captured a little bit,
47:15but it's everywhere in the existence, in
47:17the creation.
47:19So, this intelligence we call as chitta
47:22in the yogic culture.
47:25They like to be mischievous about this.
47:27They say, "If you touch chitta, if you
47:30touch this intelligence, which is the
47:32source of creation, they say God will
47:35become your slave."
47:37Cuz he will do what you want even before
47:38you think about it.
47:42Even before you ask for it. Even before
47:45you think about it.
47:46He will do that for you.
47:48What more do you want? You don't even
47:50have to desire.
47:53Because you have touched that
47:55intelligence which has no memory in it,
47:58but pure intelligence which is the very
48:00basis of life and creation.
48:03Once you touch that intelligence, this
48:05in English loosely we are using the word
48:07consciousness.
48:11But the word consciousness, medical
48:12people are using consciousness in one
48:14way, environmental people are using
48:16consciousness in another way. I'm not
48:18talking in that context. I'm talking
48:20about
48:21You know that you are here only because
48:24you're conscious.
48:25Isn't it?
48:28If you become unconscious, you won't
48:30know that. If you sleep,
48:33you won't know that.
48:34But if you sleep, does it mean you're
48:36not at all conscious? You are conscious,
48:39but the surface has slept.
48:41But if I poke you, you'll wake up.
48:44Isn't it?
48:45True. But if you're dead, if I poke you,
48:47you don't wake up.
48:50So, consciousness is that which is the
48:53very fundamental of life.
48:55That intelligence which makes everything
48:58happen here.
49:00If you are religious kind, you can call
49:02it God.
49:03It's just that I'm not using that word
49:05because immediately people say, "Okay,
49:07which God? Which religion? This, that."
49:11That's not it.
49:13Whatever human beings think,
49:15fundamentally, we didn't create the
49:17universe.
49:19Hello?
49:20I didn't. You did? No. No.
49:23Okay, don't blame me. I didn't.
49:25[laughter]
49:27So, we didn't create the universe.
49:29Before we opened our eyes, it was all
49:31here.
49:32Many things we created.
49:34Some of them good things, some of them
49:35maybe some are not so good things. But
49:38before we came here, the universe was
49:39here.
49:41So, naturally a question arises in our
49:44mind, "Who created this?"
49:47Being human beings, we think it must be
49:50a big human being somewhere.
49:52If we were buffaloes, I'm particularly
49:54using the buffalo because
49:56it seems uh
49:59at that time, 300 years ago or so,
50:03when the first people from Europe came
50:04here, there were over 60 million
50:07buffaloes on this land, North America.
50:1060 million.
50:12Much more than the human population.
50:15So, by if they had vote and if there was
50:17a democracy,
50:19naturally, the president would be a
50:21buffalo and the god would be a buffalo.
50:23Isn't it for them?
50:26Yes or no?
50:26>> Yes.
50:27>> Because we are human, we think
50:29everything in human forms.
50:33But if we were in some other form, we
50:35would be thinking in those forms.
50:38So, the question is not about what you
50:41believe and disbelieve is another
50:43matter.
50:44That's a question of faith. I won't
50:46touch that. That's individual faith.
50:48They can believe whatever.
50:49But essentially,
50:51we all know, whatever nonsense we
50:54believe or don't believe, we did not
50:57create the universe. Obviously, it
50:59happened.
51:00And the magnificent nature of it
51:04just reeks of brilliance everywhere.
51:07You look at a leaf.
51:08If you look at a leaf for your entire
51:10life, you can't figure it.
51:13With all this science and scientific
51:16exploration, we still do not do not know
51:18one atom in its entirety.
51:21We know how to use it, fuse it, break
51:23it, make a bomb out of it, but we do not
51:26know what a single atom is. That's how
51:29complex and sophisticated creation is.
51:32Obviously, it's the most brilliant job
51:35ever done. Isn't it?
51:37>> Yes.
51:38>> So, you want to ascribe it to god or to
51:40another intelligence, do whatever. But
51:43the important thing is,
51:45we didn't make it.
51:48Because we don't make it
51:50as far as possible we shouldn't break
51:53it.
51:54It's a simple sense.
51:57It's not an ultimate knowledge, simple
51:59sense. Because something that we cannot
52:02create we shouldn't break, isn't it?
52:06>> Yes.
52:07>> That much sense we have?
52:08>> Makes sense.
52:09>> Something that we cannot create we
52:11should not break.
52:14>> Very good idea.
52:15>> [laughter]
52:19>> So, this dimension of intelligence if we
52:22touch that
52:24life evolves in ways that you cannot
52:26believe.
52:28In my own experience of life
52:32I did not look for any of these things.
52:35Ever. I
52:37>> [laughter]
52:38>> I was the most
52:41If at that time if anybody had told me
52:43you will turn spiritual I would have
52:45just laughed them out.
52:47Because I was the last person in the
52:49queue.
52:50If I would never stand in the line first
52:52of all
52:53for that.
52:55I grew up
52:57very agnostic to start with. Then slowly
53:01as uh you know
53:03as you move towards your teenage you
53:06become arrogant enough to become
53:08atheistic.
53:09And
53:13I must tell you this in a better format.
53:15You okay with the story?
53:19I must have been just over four four and
53:20a half years of age.
53:23Suddenly one day I realized I don't know
53:26anything.
53:28Don't know anything at all.
53:31To point where if somebody gives me a
53:33glass of water I'm just staring at this
53:36water for two three hours.
53:39I know I can drink this water. I know
53:41how to use the water, but I don't know
53:43what it is.
53:44Even today you don't know what it is.
53:49If you want to look for life somewhere
53:51in some other planet, we're looking for
53:53a drop of water.
53:54That much we know.
53:56The usefulness of water we know,
53:58but we don't know what it is.
54:02Actually, we don't know anything about
54:03anything.
54:06We know only how to use them.
54:09We do not know what it is.
54:14If I find a leaf, I'm just staring at it
54:17for 5 6 hours.
54:19I sit up in my bed
54:21and I'm staring at the darkness for the
54:23whole night.
54:24My dear father,
54:26being a physician,
54:29he thinks I need psychiatric evaluation.
54:32This boy is all the time staring at
54:34something. It looks like he's lost it.
54:37My problem is I'm looking at this.
54:41I still don't know what it is. I'm not
54:43able to shift my attention to this.
54:47When I look at something, it just
54:49absorbs me.
54:50I'm not able to look at another thing.
54:54In this condition, they sent me to
54:56school.
54:58>> [laughter]
54:59>> I never realized why I'm going to
55:01school.
55:02Anyway, they sent me to school.
55:04My mother said, "Don't look stare here
55:06and there.
55:07Pay attention to the teacher."
55:09I went and paid attention to the
55:11teacher, the kind of attention that they
55:13would have never received in their life.
55:16Absolute attention.
55:19That I'm seeing them through and
55:20through.
55:22Initially, I sort of understood what
55:24they were trying to say.
55:27After some time, I realized
55:30they're just making sounds.
55:32I'm making up the meanings in my head.
55:34Even now it is so.
55:36I'm just making sounds. You're making up
55:39the meanings in your mind, isn't it?
55:41Yes. Suppose any of the South Indian
55:44languages, you know, we have 1,900
55:46languages in India.
55:47>> 1,900?
55:51That's a lot of languages.
55:53>> If I speak any one of those languages,
55:57you think I'm just making sounds, isn't
55:59it?
56:01Language is a conspiracy between two
56:03people.
56:05Suppose we know English and there's a
56:08bunch of people who don't know English
56:09here. If we don't want them to know what
56:11we're talking, we'll talk in English.
56:14Otherwise, we'll talk to them in their
56:15language.
56:17So, language is I make one sound, you
56:19make up the meaning. I make another
56:21sound, you make another meaning.
56:23Yes?
56:24>> Mhm.
56:26>> Even if I mispronounce an English word,
56:29you won't know what to make out of it,
56:31isn't it?
56:32Because it's just a sound.
56:34>> This is true.
56:35>> So, when I realized they're just making
56:37sounds, why am I making up meanings in
56:39my head?
56:41So, I sat there with full attention, not
56:44ignoring them.
56:45With full attention,
56:47listening to them without making any
56:50meanings.
56:52Hour after hour, different teachers come
56:54and make different kinds of noises. It
56:56became very amusing for me. A big smile
56:59spread on my face.
57:01>> [laughter]
57:01>> They were not amused
57:03at all.
57:06So,
57:08my schooling went like this. I went
57:10there only when it was absolutely
57:11necessary or when they caught me and
57:13took me back.
57:16Otherwise, I got lost somewhere. I
57:17climbed up a tree and one day went away.
57:20Another day I got into somewhere else
57:22and another day went away.
57:24Because I
57:26I was just
57:29I didn't know anything. Anything means
57:31anything at all.
57:34So, I'm trying to pay attention to the
57:36world. I'm trying to
57:37figure out at least one or two things.
57:44Any school you go, they're talking
57:45something
57:47that doesn't mean anything to them. I
57:49have first thing within few months I
57:51realized they're just doing this for a
57:53livelihood.
57:55They're saying things that doesn't mean
57:56anything to them.
57:57Even today this my stance. You speak
58:00nuclear science, I will not listen to
58:02you. Unless it means something to you.
58:05You're talking some nonsense, but it
58:08means a lot to you. I will listen.
58:11Because if it doesn't mean something to
58:13you, why the hell should I listen?
58:17It means something to you. Maybe it
58:18makes sense, it doesn't make sense. It
58:20means something to you means I will
58:22listen.
58:24It doesn't mean anything to you.
58:26First of all, you shouldn't be talking.
58:28On top of it, I shouldn't be listening.
58:31So, in the school this was my problem. I
58:33couldn't listen to them. The moment I
58:35see they're saying something that
58:36doesn't mean anything to them, I'm not
58:39willing to listen to them.
58:42So, if the bird calls, I went out. If a
58:44monkey calls, I went out. If a squirrel
58:46calls, I went out. The mangoes calls, I
58:49I went out.
58:52Went on like this. About 17, 18 years
58:55ago, I think.
58:56The school where I studied over 50 years
58:58ago,
59:00they came to invite me for their 125th
59:03anniversary.
59:05The trustees came.
59:09I said, "See,
59:11I was not just a not good student. I was
59:14not even a student. I barely came there
59:17somehow.
59:19I went through your school.
59:20I am not an inspiration for your
59:22children. Please, leave me alone."
59:25They
59:27>> [laughter]
59:27>> They said,
59:29"You know, our school has produced
59:30cricketing stars. You know, cricket is a
59:32big thing in India.
59:35And produced union ministers,
59:37film stars,
59:39but you are the only mystic. You must
59:41come."
59:42>> [laughter]
59:46[clears throat]
59:46>> So, I went.
59:48Stood up to speak
59:50in the quadrangle,
59:51same oppressive buildings.
59:54I just looked around and looking for
59:57something to say about the school.
59:59Then I look at this classroom and I
1:00:01suddenly remember
1:00:03I was around 12 years of age.
1:00:07One afternoon, the teacher is trying to
1:00:09get some response from me for some
1:00:11question he's asked. By the time I By
1:00:14that time I've graduated to place, if I
1:00:16look at you, initially I see you.
1:00:19After that, I see your energies. I know
1:00:22your past, present, and future,
1:00:24but I won't hear what you're saying.
1:00:28Because what you're saying or what
1:00:30anybody's saying didn't mean anything to
1:00:32me because I have seen them through and
1:00:34through.
1:00:36What they're talking is not even
1:00:37something of any relevance to me.
1:00:40So, his question,
1:00:43I see energy forms, but I don't hear his
1:00:46question. But I'm in full attention. I'm
1:00:48not ignoring him.
1:00:5030 35 minutes, he strives hard to get an
1:00:53answer out of me.
1:00:55But these are times These are year few
1:00:58years where
1:01:00I won't speak a word for sometimes a
1:01:02week, 10 days, like this.
1:01:05Because when you don't know nothing,
1:01:06what are you What is there to say? I'm
1:01:08still trying to grasp life, paying
1:01:11attention to the smallest things around
1:01:13me.
1:01:15And when he doesn't get any response,
1:01:17the man goes wild.
1:01:20Comes and holds me by the shoulder,
1:01:22shakes me like this violently.
1:01:25And says,
1:01:27"You must either be
1:01:29the divine or the devil. I think you're
1:01:32the latter."
1:01:34Wow.
1:01:34>> [laughter]
1:01:36>> Till then, my problem was what is that?
1:01:39What is that? What is that? What is
1:01:40that? What is that? What is this? I have
1:01:42a billion questions.
1:01:45But one thing was clear, this is me.
1:01:48Suddenly, this man confused me about
1:01:50this, also.
1:01:52I look like this. Is this divine? Is
1:01:54this devil? What the hell is this?
1:01:58I couldn't stare at myself, so I started
1:02:00closing my eyes. My journey began.
1:02:05Initially, minutes, hours, days,
1:02:08I closed my eyes.
1:02:10That's how my journey began.
1:02:13>> [laughter]
1:02:14>> This man confused me about who I am.
1:02:19>> Why did you close your eyes?
1:02:21>> Trying to stare at myself. I was staring
1:02:23at everything, trying to figure it out.
1:02:26But one thing was clear, this is me.
1:02:29There was no question about this. I had
1:02:30question about everything.
1:02:32Suddenly, the question rose about this.
1:02:35What is this?
1:02:37So, I tried to stare. It didn't work, so
1:02:39I closed my eyes naturally.
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1:04:13>> What did you see when you closed your
1:04:14eyes?
1:04:16>> See,
1:04:17the eyelids are like the cameras are
1:04:20there. There is a lens cap.
1:04:23You put a lens cap and ask the camera,
1:04:24"What are you seeing?" What is that? You
1:04:27say, "Nothing."
1:04:28>> [laughter]
1:04:30>> Isn't it the reason you got eyelids? But
1:04:32people close their eyelids and replay
1:04:34their old videos.
1:04:37I don't. When I close my eyes, world is
1:04:40over for me.
1:04:44>> Interesting.
1:04:46>> Isn't that the way it should be?
1:04:48>> It's black.
1:04:49It's just blackness.
1:04:50>> No.
1:04:50If you shut your mouth, you should stop
1:04:52speaking, isn't it?
1:04:54>> Yes.
1:04:54>> Inside I'm speaking, that means I'm
1:04:57crazy.
1:04:59Yes or no?
1:05:02>> No.
1:05:03>> [laughter]
1:05:05>> You don't admit.
1:05:08>> [laughter]
1:05:09>> I believe everybody has an internal
1:05:11voice.
1:05:13>> See.
1:05:16One of the fundamentals
1:05:19with which
1:05:20the medical professionals decide whether
1:05:23you are sane or insane is
1:05:25voices start speaking inside of you.
1:05:30You start hearing voices.
1:05:32Either you can say
1:05:34you're ill or you can say you're
1:05:36possessed.
1:05:39But something is going wrong, isn't it?
1:05:43Because
1:05:45if my hand is like this, if I want I
1:05:48keep it here, if I want I can do this,
1:05:50if I want I do this, this
1:05:52is a good hand.
1:05:53But without my permission if it starts
1:05:55jumping
1:05:57you think Mr. Parkinson is visiting or
1:05:59something, right?
1:06:00>> You would think that.
1:06:02>> So similarly, if your mind starts
1:06:05hopping around with your without your
1:06:06permission, your speech starts going on
1:06:09without your permission.
1:06:12And your video start running without
1:06:13your permission, it means something is
1:06:15wrong. Because a lot of people are in
1:06:18that condition, we are trying to make it
1:06:20more normal.
1:06:22When I first came to United States
1:06:25in the year '96 or '97
1:06:30wherever I go, people are talking about
1:06:33uh
1:06:34about stress management.
1:06:38I couldn't understand this. I said, "Why
1:06:40they want to Why American people want to
1:06:42manage stress?
1:06:44Because in my understanding
1:06:46we manage things which are precious to
1:06:48us. We manage our family, our wealth,
1:06:50our business, our money.
1:06:53Why would you want to manage stress?
1:06:56Took me some time to realize everybody
1:06:58has concluded that stress is a part of
1:07:01their life.
1:07:03Stress is not a part of your life, nor
1:07:05is it the nature of the work that you
1:07:07do. It's just that you are an
1:07:09inefficient machine, so there's friction
1:07:11within you, isn't it?
1:07:14Okay.
1:07:15There's friction.
1:07:17>> A lot of friction.
1:07:19>> A lot of friction means either it's not
1:07:21well engineered
1:07:23or not well aligned or
1:07:27not enough lubrication.
1:07:30Yes?
1:07:33>> I would agree with that.
1:07:35>> You should, cuz you would handle
1:07:36weapons.
1:07:37>> [laughter]
1:07:38>> Then it gets stuck, you know what it
1:07:40means.
1:07:41So, if you
1:07:42close your eyes, the eyelids are made in
1:07:45such a way, if you close it,
1:07:46to cut out the light.
1:07:49To cut out the scenery.
1:07:51No, you close it and play your own
1:07:52scenery. What is that?
1:07:58>> Taking control?
1:07:59>> Not taking control.
1:08:02When you're done with this, if you
1:08:03switch off this light, are you taking in
1:08:06control of something? It's a simple
1:08:08nonsense. When the other purpose for the
1:08:11life here your light is over, you switch
1:08:13it off, right?
1:08:16>> Yes.
1:08:18>> Similarly, now we want to see our eyes
1:08:20are open.
1:08:21We don't want to see, we close our eyes.
1:08:24We're making such a big deal about that.
1:08:27Because
1:08:29it's very highly sophisticated machine
1:08:31without user's manual.
1:08:34>> [laughter]
1:08:35>> That's why it's like this.
1:08:40>> How many people out there do you think
1:08:41don't have an internal voice?
1:08:44>> See, if you consciously speak within
1:08:46yourself
1:08:48to prepare for something else,
1:08:50that's okay.
1:08:52But it's speaking by itself means we're
1:08:54on the verge of madness, isn't it?
1:08:57We're not already there.
1:09:00>> Yeah, I mean
1:09:02I see what you're saying.
1:09:04But I've been stressed under people's
1:09:06heads, fears under people's head, things
1:09:09you need to do under your head.
1:09:12Um
1:09:15being prepared for future events.
1:09:18>> I'm not talking without being empathetic
1:09:21to all the things people are going
1:09:23through. I'm trying to address the very
1:09:25fundamental nature.
1:09:27>> Okay.
1:09:28>> The fundamental nature if any instrument
1:09:30is the camera is there, you put the lens
1:09:33cap. The idea is it doesn't shoot
1:09:35anymore, right?
1:09:36>> Yes.
1:09:38>> So, you put your your
1:09:40the eyelids down. That means the idea is
1:09:43you don't see anything.
1:09:45Now, you ask me you close your eyes and
1:09:47what do you see?
1:09:50>> You want me to close my eyes?
1:09:51>> No, you said
1:09:53if you when you close your eyes, what
1:09:55did you see?
1:09:56I mean, the idea of closing the eyes is
1:09:58you don't want to see.
1:10:01If you want to see, you must open your
1:10:03eyes.
1:10:05If you close your eyes,
1:10:07one thing that you have done is one
1:10:10major sense organ input you cut it off.
1:10:15Ears don't have flaps like that, but you
1:10:18can ignore it. Nostrils don't have flaps
1:10:20like that, you can ignore it.
1:10:23But eyes are nearly 80% of the input.
1:10:28You cut the input so that there is more
1:10:31attention for what's happening within.
1:10:34>> But we're talking about
1:10:36closing your eyes, saying nothing,
1:10:38basically tuning out.
1:10:40Correct?
1:10:42>> Mhm, see, that's what
1:10:46we are trying to make it a principle
1:10:50out of a simple act.
1:10:54Right now,
1:10:55you are sitting like this.
1:10:58Does it mean
1:11:01you are holding your ability to shoot in
1:11:04your hands and holding it like this, or
1:11:06your ability to do so many things
1:11:08holding it like this and sitting, is it?
1:11:10No, it they're just sitting in your
1:11:11hands.
1:11:13When you want to use it, you use it,
1:11:14otherwise you keep it here.
1:11:15>> Mhm.
1:11:17>> But if you are
1:11:19if you're unconscious, this may start
1:11:22moving and doing its own things without
1:11:24your permission.
1:11:26When that happens, we say somebody is
1:11:28unwell, isn't it?
1:11:30>> Yes, that's what we say.
1:11:33>> So if that happens in your mind,
1:11:35what would show what should we say?
1:11:37You are not very well.
1:11:40Let me put it mildly.
1:11:41>> [laughter]
1:11:42>> If it goes beyond a certain point, then
1:11:44you know it's unwell, isn't it?
1:11:48>> Yes.
1:11:50>> So I am saying instead of and addressing
1:11:52the root of it, we are always trying to
1:11:54prune it and see how it'll be okay.
1:11:57It'll not be okay.
1:11:59You can be either
1:12:01insane totally,
1:12:03or you can be sane in such a way
1:12:06insanity cannot touch you,
1:12:08or you can be in a socially accepted
1:12:11level of madness.
1:12:13My
1:12:15choice for every human being is
1:12:17they must be above
1:12:20the possibility of insanity. It's
1:12:22possible for everybody to be like that.
1:12:25It's just that
1:12:26there is no structure, there is no
1:12:28striving in that direction.
1:12:31Everybody thinks it's normal to be
1:12:32anxious, it's normal to be stressed,
1:12:35it's normal to be distressed.
1:12:37No, it is not.
1:12:41When you were a child, it was normal to
1:12:43be joyful, isn't it?
1:12:45>> Yes.
1:12:46>> When did it become normal to be
1:12:47stressful?
1:12:48>> [laughter]
1:12:53>> Adult life.
1:12:54>> Huh?
1:12:55>> When you come in When you become an
1:12:56adult.
1:12:58Maybe it's the answer to that.
1:13:00>> you were a child, were you eager to
1:13:02become an adult
1:13:03quickly?
1:13:05>> Quicker than it was happening, isn't it?
1:13:08>> Yes.
1:13:09>> When you were eight, you want to be 12.
1:13:11When you were 12, you want to be 18.
1:13:12When you were 18, you want to be 30. Yes
1:13:14or no?
1:13:15>> And then it reverses.
1:13:17>> [laughter]
1:13:17>> Unfortunately, if you handle it badly.
1:13:20Not for me. I don't want to go back
1:13:21there.
1:13:22>> [laughter]
1:13:25>> If you handle it badly, you want to
1:13:26reverse and go back
1:13:28into your mother's womb one day.
1:13:30>> [laughter]
1:13:31>> No, no. The life doesn't allow you that.
1:13:33Once you're out from womb, tomb is the
1:13:36only place to go.
1:13:38>> [laughter]
1:13:39>> In between, will you make it wonderful
1:13:41or ugly, it's up to you.
1:13:46I'm repeating this.
1:13:47We didn't make the creation.
1:13:50But how this
1:13:52this one experiences this life, we can
1:13:55determine that, isn't it?
1:13:59In the yogic terminology, we call this
1:14:02karma.
1:14:04Karma means action.
1:14:05>> Karma means action?
1:14:07>> Yes.
1:14:09Are you getting bored with me? Let me
1:14:11read you one poem.
1:14:15You like substance abuse.
1:14:17Ah, look at you.
1:14:19>> [laughter]
1:14:20>> The poem is called substance abuse.
1:14:22>> Okay.
1:14:24>> To be sober
1:14:26is dreary.
1:14:29But inebriation takes you away from all
1:14:33that is reality.
1:14:36How to dwell
1:14:38How to dwell in the empty room of dry,
1:14:42lifeless logic.
1:14:44Logic through the day
1:14:47and inebriation at the end of the day.
1:14:50Logic through the week and inebriation
1:14:53for the weekend.
1:14:55Logic at work and inebriation for the
1:14:58vacation.
1:15:00Say the compromisers.
1:15:04Come, I have [clears throat] a substance
1:15:07that leaves you in throes of ecstasy
1:15:11and peak of alertness at once.
1:15:15No need for secrecy.
1:15:18No one will find us in our within.
1:15:22Let us abuse the substance
1:15:25without dimension. Let us abuse the
1:15:27substance without dimension, but within.
1:15:31>> [clears throat]
1:15:31>> Let us get super sober and stoned.
1:15:37Because the greatest chemical factory on
1:15:40the planet is this one, isn't it? The
1:15:43most sophisticated. If you were a good
1:15:46CEO of this factory, what chemicals
1:15:49would you produce?
1:15:51Chemistry of ecstasy and blissfulness or
1:15:54chemistry of stress and misery?
1:15:57>> I would rather have blissfulness.
1:16:00>> So, lousy CEO.
1:16:03>> So what?
1:16:04>> Lousy CEO, I'm saying.
1:16:07If you give a an industry to a lousy
1:16:10CEO,
1:16:12the product that needs to come out that
1:16:13won't come out. Something else will come
1:16:15out.
1:16:17The square one of your life, if you see,
1:16:20when you're 5-6 years of age,
1:16:23for no reason you're just bubbling and
1:16:25bouncing with joy.
1:16:27Somebody has to work hard to make you
1:16:28miserable at that time.
1:16:30Now everybody has to work so hard to
1:16:32make you happy.
1:16:34>> [laughter]
1:16:36>> Even peaceful has become a challenge.
1:16:39I must tell you this.
1:16:41I was to speak in Tel Aviv.
1:16:45I'm flying out of Atlanta.
1:16:48And uh
1:16:50I was to arrive there around 11:00 in
1:16:52the morning and speak at 6:30 in the
1:16:54evening.
1:16:56But due to some flight delays,
1:16:59I got delayed.
1:17:00And I landed at 6:00 in the evening.
1:17:04I have a reputation
1:17:06that I never go late for any event.
1:17:09In this over 43 years, I have not been
1:17:14late to a single event.
1:17:15>> Wow.
1:17:16>> It takes a certain commitment to do
1:17:18that, no matter what.
1:17:21No matter how I am, what's happening, I
1:17:23will be there.
1:17:25This has been my reputation.
1:17:27So, I quickly change
1:17:29in the airport to rush to the venue.
1:17:34And I'm flying on American Airline.
1:17:36There's nothing edible on the plane, you
1:17:38know.
1:17:39>> [clears throat]
1:17:39[laughter]
1:17:40>> They're throwing some throwing some dog
1:17:42parts to me which I don't eat.
1:17:46You know what I'm talking about.
1:17:47>> I know what you're talking about.
1:17:48>> [laughter]
1:17:50>> So, I end up there famished,
1:17:52super hungry,
1:17:55but no time for anything, so I rush to
1:17:57the venue.
1:17:59And this never happens to me. On that
1:18:01day, I'm speaking in a fine restaurant.
1:18:04>> [laughter]
1:18:07>> So hungry and I go into the restaurant.
1:18:10And already guests have arrived and
1:18:12they're going about, you know, they have
1:18:14their initial whatever.
1:18:17So, uh people come up to me and greeting
1:18:20me and stuff. One man comes up to me and
1:18:23says, "Shalom."
1:18:25I said, "What does it mean?"
1:18:27He says, "This is the highest way of
1:18:29greeting."
1:18:31I say, "See, that's your opinion.
1:18:34But
1:18:36what does it actually mean?"
1:18:38He said, "No, no, this is the highest
1:18:39way of greeting."
1:18:41I said, "All right, what does the word
1:18:43mean?"
1:18:44He said, "It means peace."
1:18:48I said, "See,
1:18:51unless you're born in Middle East,
1:18:54why would peace be the highest way of
1:18:56greeting?"
1:18:59In southern India, if somebody comes up
1:19:01to me and in the morning they say peace,
1:19:04I'll say, "What's wrong with you?"
1:19:06>> [laughter]
1:19:10>> I'm saying anything that you deprive
1:19:12yourself of,
1:19:14slowly over a period of time it grows to
1:19:18divine quality.
1:19:20Today you ask people in that part of the
1:19:22world, they say God is peace.
1:19:25Ask in America, they say God is love.
1:19:28Somewhere else you ask something,
1:19:30they'll say something else. Whatever is
1:19:32missing in their lives slowly rises into
1:19:37heaven.
1:19:39Peace, love, joy, blissfulness,
1:19:42everything are human emotions which
1:19:44makes a human being
1:19:46nice and pleasant.
1:19:49We don't know whether God needs it or
1:19:51not.
1:19:53Hello? Yeah.
1:19:55We don't know whether needs it or not.
1:19:56Today in California people are saying
1:19:59the core of the universe is love. I
1:20:01said, "Did you go there?
1:20:04Did you go there and see?" No.
1:20:06And why the core of the universe needs
1:20:08love? You need love to make you yourself
1:20:10into sensible human being.
1:20:12If you have love in your heart, you
1:20:14behave sensibly.
1:20:15If you have no love in your heart, you
1:20:17behave abrasively, isn't it?
1:20:19>> This is true.
1:20:20>> That's all there is. It's a human
1:20:23emotion.
1:20:24Instead of having it here, you export it
1:20:26to heaven, what do I do?
1:20:29Here it is needed.
1:20:31Your joy, your peace, your love, your
1:20:33blissfulness is good here.
1:20:37If both of us are blissful, we can
1:20:39banter. If one of us is feeling
1:20:41resentful, we'll do something nasty to
1:20:43each other, inevitably. Yes or no?
1:20:47Yes. So,
1:20:49all the substances here, this is the
1:20:52greatest chemical factory.
1:20:55This I realized
1:20:56when I was 25 years of age.
1:21:00Going back to the story.
1:21:03So, after 12, when this confusion
1:21:05happened in the school, which is me,
1:21:06which is not me.
1:21:09Then I went through so many things. I
1:21:12don't want to go into all that, many,
1:21:13many things. More experiences than most
1:21:16people will go through at that stage in
1:21:18life.
1:21:21And then
1:21:23I cycled across South India.
1:21:27Then I got onto a motorcycle and
1:21:29criss-crossed India.
1:21:32Then when I hit the borders, I realized
1:21:34I can't go beyond this unless I have a
1:21:36passport.
1:21:37I was nearly 20 and I didn't know there
1:21:40is something called a passport.
1:21:43Those days, we are like that.
1:21:45Just wild, nonsense.
1:21:48So, I came back, got myself a passport.
1:21:50Then I realized I need money.
1:21:52Then I started some business. It became
1:21:54successful. I started one more and one
1:21:56more.
1:21:57Everything became successful.
1:22:01So, you're young.
1:22:05Things that you're doing, everything is
1:22:07working.
1:22:08Then everything starts working, people
1:22:10start clapping their hands.
1:22:13Slowly you
1:22:14I'm not arrogant, but a bit cocky.
1:22:17Slowly you start thinking the planets
1:22:19are going around you, you, not around
1:22:21the sun.
1:22:23Because everybody else makes you feel
1:22:24that way.
1:22:27So, I'm in business, busy busy busy.
1:22:31I'm thinking today, tomorrow, next month
1:22:34I'm going to stop everything and ride
1:22:35away. I have enough money to go away
1:22:37somewhere.
1:22:40Nowhere, rather. Simply ride across the
1:22:42world.
1:22:43Which I never did.
1:22:45Because success is a trap, you know.
1:22:48I'm figuring that out.
1:22:50>> [laughter]
1:22:51>> If you fail, you can drop the damn thing
1:22:53and go.
1:22:55But, when you're successful,
1:22:57you put one finger, one more, one more,
1:22:59one more, the whole hand is caught
1:23:00there. You can't leave your hand and go.
1:23:03So, I'm in a successful trap.
1:23:06Not able to go anywhere.
1:23:08>> [laughter]
1:23:09>> Totally in the office, on the field,
1:23:11working construction, this that, endless
1:23:13work.
1:23:15So, one afternoon, between two business
1:23:17meetings when there was a break,
1:23:20I went up a small hill.
1:23:22This is uh
1:23:24in the heart of the city, Mysore city,
1:23:27where I lived.
1:23:33Success in those days,
1:23:35for that small town,
1:23:37not like today. People are talking about
1:23:40trillion dollars, not that kind of
1:23:42success.
1:23:43But, for that small town, successful for
1:23:46a 25-year-old, very successful.
1:23:52So, I went and just sat in one place.
1:23:53There was a small hill, and uh this is
1:23:55the hill I know very well.
1:23:58As a child, I got lost in the forest in
1:24:00these hills.
1:24:02And spent a lot of time there. I trekked
1:24:04there. I camped there.
1:24:06When we grew up, we partied there.
1:24:09Meetings, if you fell in love, you went
1:24:11to Chamundi Hill. If you fell out, you
1:24:13go to Chamundi Hill. If you have nothing
1:24:15to do, you go to Chamundi Hill. You have
1:24:16something to do, you go to Chamundi
1:24:18Hill.
1:24:19You If you want to test your motorcycle,
1:24:22you go up Chamundi Hill.
1:24:24Do whatever you want to do. Chamundi
1:24:26Hill is there for the youth of the town.
1:24:29Because it's a little exciting road up.
1:24:34So, I went halfway up Chamundi Hill
1:24:36because I'm very familiar. There's a
1:24:37particular huge rock.
1:24:40I don't know. We can send you a picture
1:24:42of that rock. Nothing special about the
1:24:43rock, but it became the most eventful
1:24:46place in my life.
1:24:48So, I went and sat there.
1:24:53Suddenly, for the first time, I did not
1:24:55know which is me, which is not me.
1:24:58This is me, that's you. I got no problem
1:25:01with you. But this is me, that's you.
1:25:04Suddenly, I did not know which is me,
1:25:06not which is not me. The trees around
1:25:09me, the rocks around me, the mountain
1:25:11everything around me had kind of become
1:25:14me.
1:25:15See, what is in this body
1:25:18right now?
1:25:21This was somewhere else. Yesterday, it
1:25:23was on your plate.
1:25:25You ate it, and now somewhere it's
1:25:26become a part of you, isn't it? Yes.
1:25:31What was me was all over the place.
1:25:34Like a oneness.
1:25:37I don't want to put a word to it because
1:25:39all these words have been misused. Okay.
1:25:42I'm saying what was me was just spilled
1:25:44over. What was me was contained here
1:25:46till that moment.
1:25:48But suddenly, it had spilled over
1:25:50everywhere, all over the place.
1:25:53I thought this lasted
1:25:55for about maybe 15, 20 minutes or so.
1:25:59But when I just shook my head and
1:26:02felt kind of what I thought was normal
1:26:04till then,
1:26:064 and 1/2 hours had passed.
1:26:09Tears.
1:26:10Me and tears were impossible. I lived
1:26:12like this.
1:26:14Tears to a point my shirt is all wet.
1:26:19And I shake my head and ask, by then I
1:26:22am a super skeptic.
1:26:24I'm skeptical about everything.
1:26:27About religions, about politics, about
1:26:31the financial arrangement in the world,
1:26:32about family, about social structures. I
1:26:36am a super skeptic about everything and
1:26:38I don't believe anything other than what
1:26:40I see.
1:26:42I'm in that condition.
1:26:44I did not grow up in spiritual
1:26:45literature or teachings or anything. I
1:26:48grew up on Dostoevsky, Camus, Kafka, you
1:26:51know, all those European guys.
1:26:54>> [laughter]
1:26:55>> Oh,
1:26:57who kind of raised their confusion to a
1:27:00grand height.
1:27:03>> [laughter]
1:27:04>> So, I am in that state.
1:27:07When I shake my head and ask my own
1:27:09mind,
1:27:10what's happening to me? Because I'm
1:27:13dripping ecstasy. Every cell in the body
1:27:16is feeling like totally blissed out.
1:27:20What is happening to me when I ask?
1:27:23My mind says, maybe you're going off
1:27:24your rocker.
1:27:27Then I ask my closest friends, hey,
1:27:30something is happening to me. I come on,
1:27:32what did you drink?
1:27:34You popped something, you got some acid?
1:27:36Did you find some mushrooms in the hill?
1:27:40Then I knew I have hit something for
1:27:42which there is no context around me.
1:27:45Neither my own mind nor anybody around
1:27:47me is able to tell me what it is. But I
1:27:51know I've hit a gold mine. I don't want
1:27:52to miss it.
1:27:54So, I started experimenting with it.
1:27:55What is it?
1:27:57If I close my eyes and sit like this,
1:28:00I think it's 2 minutes. So, if I open my
1:28:03eyes, 7-8 hours are gone.
1:28:05Wow, time like
1:28:08like that. So,
1:28:10things started happening to me like
1:28:13which I would never believe if anybody
1:28:15tells me these things
1:28:17because
1:28:18I am not that kind of person who takes
1:28:21anything that's not logically correct.
1:28:25But absolutely insane things which I
1:28:28always hated started happening to me.
1:28:31>> [laughter]
1:28:32>> What kind of things?
1:28:33>> Memories
1:28:36which had no connect with my life. Then
1:28:37I go there and check it. And the damn
1:28:40thing that I've seen is right there.
1:28:43What I see in my mind is actually there.
1:28:47So like it's clearer than daylight, but
1:28:50my mind will not accept. It struggles
1:28:54and it says no because it doesn't fit
1:28:56into my box of logic.
1:28:59By then I started thinking I'm smart.
1:29:01That's the biggest problem.
1:29:04Cuz you're successful, everybody's
1:29:05clapping their hands, and you started
1:29:07thinking you're smart. From the age of
1:29:09four you knew you know nothing.
1:29:12But slowly I started thinking I'm
1:29:14becoming smart because everybody's
1:29:15clapping their hands.
1:29:19So suddenly destroyed everything.
1:29:22The man that was there, the young man
1:29:25was cocky, confident, doing the right
1:29:27thing, successful.
1:29:30That guy just melted away like that in
1:29:32few few days completely.
1:29:35Gone.
1:29:37Just gone. That man just went away. To a
1:29:40point where my body changed. My gait
1:29:45changed. I I didn't try to change my
1:29:48style of walking. My gait changed. My
1:29:50voice changed. My voice had broken when
1:29:53I was just 13.
1:29:55But my voice changed. The shape of my
1:29:57eyes changed.
1:29:59And people started saying, "What's
1:30:01happening to you?"
1:30:03>> [laughter]
1:30:04>> I'm just
1:30:04I'm just blissed out for no reason. What
1:30:06can I do?
1:30:10Then I started experimenting. What is
1:30:12it?
1:30:14Then I realized
1:30:17all that I have to do is if I can sit
1:30:19here and keep a little distance
1:30:23between my psychological activity
1:30:26and me.
1:30:28My physiological activity and me. See,
1:30:30right now you're sitting here. Can you
1:30:32see me?
1:30:33>> Yes, I can see you.
1:30:35>> If you close your eyes, can you see me?
1:30:39>> No.
1:30:41>> But are you there?
1:30:42>> I'm here.
1:30:44>> If you close your eyes, are you still
1:30:45there?
1:30:46>> Yes.
1:30:47>> So right now, are you looking at me or
1:30:49is your eyes looking at me?
1:30:51>> Yes.
1:30:52>> Which one?
1:30:53>> I'm looking at you.
1:30:54>> You are looking at me through the window
1:30:56of your eyes, isn't it? You close the
1:30:59window, you don't see me. If you open
1:31:00the window, you see me. But you are
1:31:03there beyond this body, isn't it?
1:31:07For the first time I realized
1:31:11I just I'm there.
1:31:14I'm there inside and outside, just like
1:31:16this.
1:31:18What I call as my physical self, I
1:31:20thought you know, by then
1:31:22my weight has remained the same since I
1:31:25was 19 years of age to today. I have the
1:31:28same weight.
1:31:29It's just as those days,
1:31:31uh most of my weight was here
1:31:34because due to continuous pressure of
1:31:36gravity, slowly it's moved a little
1:31:38down.
1:31:40>> [laughter]
1:31:44>> Too much gravity, you know?
1:31:46>> Yeah, I have the same problem.
1:31:48>> [laughter]
1:31:50>> I figured out if I keep a little
1:31:53distance from my psychological process
1:31:55and my physiological process within
1:31:58moments, I experience a wave of bliss.
1:32:04I repeatedly experimented in so many
1:32:07ways and I knew this is all it is.
1:32:10If a little space arises between your
1:32:14psychological process and your
1:32:15physiological process and yourself,
1:32:18little space,
1:32:20then it's just blissed out.
1:32:24Now that was my experience.
1:32:26Today in the major laboratories in in
1:32:30some of the top universities in the
1:32:31country and in the world, now they have
1:32:34studied this and now they are saying
1:32:37people who do the simple practice that I
1:32:39teach them, very simple 21-minute
1:32:41process, with that they are saying the
1:32:44bliss factor is up by 70%. Wow.
1:32:48BDNF,
1:32:50the brain-derived neurotrophic factors,
1:32:52are up three times, 270% up.
1:32:56And they are saying the bliss factor is
1:32:58such that it's 23% higher than what
1:33:01normally happens in a sexual orgasm,
1:33:04simply sitting here.
1:33:06So when I realized this, all these
1:33:09studies and these numbers are by
1:33:11studying people who have done the
1:33:12practice for 6 weeks, 8 weeks, like
1:33:14this.
1:33:15They didn't study me.
1:33:18So when I saw that you can be completely
1:33:22blissed out without any reason, my first
1:33:25thought was who wouldn't want it?
1:33:28I couldn't think of one guy who will not
1:33:31want it. Who wouldn't want it? Simply
1:33:33sitting here, you can be blissed out
1:33:35absolutely because bliss is not a goal
1:33:38by itself.
1:33:39Only if your body and mind are in utter
1:33:42sense of pleasantness,
1:33:44your genius unfolds.
1:33:48Your physical body and mind works at its
1:33:51best only when they're in a pleasant
1:33:53state of experience. There is
1:33:55substantial scientific and medical
1:33:57evidence for this.
1:34:00At that time when I realized this, I
1:34:02thought this is very simple.
1:34:05Why won't everybody in the world want to
1:34:07be blissful?
1:34:08Then I sat down. I was 25.
1:34:10>> [laughter]
1:34:11>> I sat down with the world map and made a
1:34:13plan.
1:34:15In 2 and 1/2 years time, on that day the
1:34:18world's population was some 4.82 or
1:34:21something like that.
1:34:23In 2 and 1/2 years time, I will make the
1:34:25entire world blissful.
1:34:3044 years.
1:34:347 days of the week, 365 days I'm on on
1:34:38on 16 to 18 hours a day.
1:34:42Today people say we've touched over 2
1:34:44billion people. That's not my idea of
1:34:46the world because that bloody population
1:34:48is multiplying.
1:34:50>> [laughter]
1:34:50>> See, 8.4 billion people. So, I will die
1:34:53a failure. This is for certain.
1:34:56But I am a blissful failure.
1:34:59This is my blessing for everybody. You
1:35:01must die a blissful failure.
1:35:04You set up small goals like this, like
1:35:06childish goals, and say, "I did it. I
1:35:08did it." This is stupid. For human
1:35:10intelligence, you can think of something
1:35:12that will take 10 lifetimes to do. If
1:35:15you take two steps today, maybe the next
1:35:17generation will take another two steps.
1:35:20>> It's a great point.
1:35:22>> So,
1:35:24this is very simple. See, this is what I
1:35:26call miracle of mind.
1:35:30Mind is the greatest miracle we have,
1:35:32but most people have turned it into a
1:35:34misery manufacturing machine. They give
1:35:37it so many reasons.
1:35:40Don't find excuses. If you are willing,
1:35:43you can turn this into a miracle.
1:35:47Every human being,
1:35:49without exception. Some might have come
1:35:52with more conducive atmospheres. Some
1:35:54might have come with a little more
1:35:56difficult atmospheres.
1:35:58So, some may need little work, some may
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1:37:29>> Welcome to Hollywood versus reality.
1:37:32>> They do it, right?
1:37:37What does he do in the movies?
1:37:39Tell me if I'm doing [music] this wrong,
1:37:40cuz I don't watch any of this.
1:37:41Little flick like that, right? Seems
1:37:43pretty cool. It is pretty
1:37:48Got to silence it.
1:37:54In another lifetime, I did gun reviews
1:37:56for a living. Proprietary magazines.
1:37:59Supposedly the best engineering in the
1:38:01world. When that breaks, you're
1:38:06And now we're bringing them back.
1:38:13It does look pretty cool. I got
1:38:14to I got to admit that. I mean
1:38:19Okay, if we're back from the break and
1:38:20we we were talking about
1:38:24blissfulness of the mind.
1:38:26Correct?
1:38:28And
1:38:30>> About the blissful failure
1:38:32>> that I am. The blissful
1:38:33>> [laughter]
1:38:33>> The blissful failure that you are.
1:38:35>> Then let me read you one poem just to
1:38:37break the monotony of the talk.
1:38:40This was written
1:38:42for [clears throat] the trees in
1:38:43Tennessee.
1:38:47You know, we we have a
1:38:49property which is wild and beautiful.
1:38:52>> In McMinnville?
1:38:53>> You're close to McMinnville.
1:38:54>> I almost moved there.
1:38:55>> It's
1:38:56Really?
1:38:57>> I did.
1:38:58>> [laughter]
1:38:59>> It's over 20,000 acres and we're trying
1:39:01to build a
1:39:03build a place where people can come and
1:39:06make use of it beyond religion, beyond
1:39:09belief systems, beyond political party
1:39:12nonsense.
1:39:13Just as human beings, they can come,
1:39:15learn something, and go which is good
1:39:17for their well-being. Not against
1:39:19anybody in the universe, just for their
1:39:21well-being. My well-being should not be
1:39:23against your well-being, isn't it?
1:39:26That's the most fundamental thing.
1:39:27>> Mhm.
1:39:28>> This is how nature is made. This is how
1:39:31creation is made. Trees breathe.
1:39:34We breathe what they don't want. They
1:39:37breathe in what we don't want.
1:39:39We throw out carbon dioxide, they want
1:39:42it.
1:39:43They throw out oxygen, we want it. Isn't
1:39:45this a fantastic arrangement? Everything
1:39:47in creation is like this.
1:39:49But we human beings think that
1:39:53my well-being means you must suffer
1:39:55somehow.
1:39:57Not necessary. There is a way to live.
1:40:00So fundamentally, it's part of the
1:40:03conscious planet movement that people
1:40:06live more consciously understand life as
1:40:08ease, not the way we make it up in our
1:40:10head. So this is dedicated to the
1:40:13trees to the trees in Tennessee.
1:40:16Oh blessed beings,
1:40:18your green raiment, source of our breath
1:40:22and being,
1:40:23your stoic stance mistaken for lifeless
1:40:27existence.
1:40:29Your immense presence could escape human
1:40:32sense.
1:40:34This lack of cognizance could mean a
1:40:37disastrous consequence.
1:40:39But for now,
1:40:41you and me in this intimate embrace, the
1:40:45joy of sharing each other's breath is
1:40:48beyond the joy of having a breathless
1:40:50wench.
1:40:52I can only nourish you with tears of
1:40:54gratitude. When I come back in winter,
1:40:58you will stand naked and gray giving a
1:41:01taste of what the world would be
1:41:05without you being gay.
1:41:08You a permanent resident, me a wandering
1:41:11vagabond. But can I ever break my breath
1:41:15bond?
1:41:17Wait till I am done with my deeds. I
1:41:20will lie at your roots to nourish you
1:41:23with my body's juice
1:41:25to become the sap of your sap to put
1:41:28back all that is hers into her lap.
1:41:32Till then, you
1:41:34and me in this romantic romp, lest
1:41:38someone should notice. Let us carry it
1:41:41on without any pomp.
1:41:45The I must tell you this.
1:41:51I uh
1:41:54after I finished my business stuff and
1:41:57education was over and business stuff
1:41:59and then I started teaching
1:42:03for almost 12 15 years, I avoided
1:42:06teaching in my native town because I
1:42:08thought I should keep it as it is,
1:42:10friends, family
1:42:12stuff.
1:42:13Don't become a teacher in your town.
1:42:17But, you know, the word spread and
1:42:19people came to know and they said you
1:42:20have to do something here.
1:42:23So, I had to announce a two-day program.
1:42:28It was at the foothills of that hill
1:42:29that I was talking about.
1:42:32I announced this program, a few thousand
1:42:34people turned up.
1:42:35And I look around
1:42:37right from my kindergarten school
1:42:40friends
1:42:41teachers from my school, from my
1:42:43college, all sorts of people, friends
1:42:46and enemies and everybody turned up.
1:42:50So, then I did the program. At the end
1:42:52of the program, my English teacher she
1:42:55came and hugged me and she said
1:42:57[clears throat]
1:42:58"Now I understand why you did not let me
1:43:01teach Robert Frost."
1:43:03I said, "Ma'am, why would I not let you
1:43:05teach Robert Frost? I like Frost. I went
1:43:08to his place in California and I even
1:43:11have a voice recording of his.
1:43:14Why would I not let you teach Robert
1:43:16Frost? Why are you saying this?"
1:43:18She said, "Do you remember?" And she
1:43:20went back. What happened was till then
1:43:23we were learning only English poets.
1:43:26American poetry she introduced.
1:43:29And she said Robert Frost glowing terms
1:43:31this and that.
1:43:32And then she started reading the poem.
1:43:34And then she said, "Wood so lovely, dark
1:43:36and deep."
1:43:37I said, "Stop."
1:43:39A man who calls a living tree a wood, I
1:43:42will not listen to that guy.
1:43:45She said, "No, no, no. Robert Frost,
1:43:47he's a great poet." I said, "I don't
1:43:48care how great he is. A man who calls a
1:43:51living tree a wood,
1:43:54I will not listen to that guy." Then she
1:43:56changed and we she thought it was Edgar
1:43:58Allan Poe and Longfellow.
1:44:00>> [laughter]
1:44:06>> So, trees have been
1:44:08such a thing for me
1:44:10that when I was going to school,
1:44:12I had my bicycle.
1:44:15I had my lunch box.
1:44:17I went up a tree. I just sat there all
1:44:20day.
1:44:21The tree swaying like this, swaying like
1:44:23that, swaying like that.
1:44:25Just this thing just made me so crazy,
1:44:30happy, and nice. I never came down. I
1:44:33ate my lunch there, stayed there. When
1:44:35it's time to go back home, I went back
1:44:37home.
1:44:39Today, we planted over 138 million
1:44:43living trees
1:44:44as a part of a project.
1:44:46>> Wow.
1:44:47>> Uh I'm saying living trees because
1:44:50See, nobody plants a tree. We plant a
1:44:53small twig.
1:44:55It takes minimum 6 to 8 years before you
1:44:58call it a tree.
1:45:01So, our trees are all geo-coded.
1:45:04The Indian Space Research Organization
1:45:06provides the service free for us. It
1:45:08geo-codes every tree. If any tree goes
1:45:11away, it tells us. The growth of the
1:45:12trees measured.
1:45:14Because there is subsidy for the farmer
1:45:16for the growth of the tree.
1:45:19So, 138 million trees today are
1:45:21standing.
1:45:23Because my association with the trees
1:45:24has always been so strong.
1:45:27Because we breathe.
1:45:29And I started a whole movement based on
1:45:31this.
1:45:32I
1:45:34You know, the place where we are today
1:45:35in India, our center,
1:45:38there it's about 850 about 850 acres or
1:45:41something like that.
1:45:43Here it's over 20,000 acres.
1:45:47So, when we came there at the foothills
1:45:48of the mountain, I have a weakness for
1:45:50the mountains, that's another big story.
1:45:53Without mountains, I can't live.
1:45:57So, uh at the very foothills of the
1:45:59mountain, our backyard is 10,000 square
1:46:02miles of rainforest.
1:46:05Wow. If you walk a mile in many parts,
1:46:08you can't see the sky.
1:46:10There's You can't see the sky even if
1:46:13you walk a mile because the canopy is
1:46:15like this.
1:46:17Full of wild animals and everything.
1:46:19When we came, this particular hill,
1:46:21which is close to us, was completely
1:46:24sheared off trees because there was an
1:46:27illegal furniture industry close by. We
1:46:29bought it out and closed it. We had to
1:46:31pay three times the price and buy it out
1:46:34and close down that furniture industry
1:46:36because these guys, slowly over a period
1:46:38of time, have completely sheared the
1:46:40mountain.
1:46:43Our temperatures were at least 3 to 4°
1:46:46higher than the city temperatures close
1:46:48by.
1:46:49So, I just came up with a simple idea
1:46:52how we can replace because the land is
1:46:54still rich with lot of undergrowth.
1:46:57So, I took about 4,500 volunteers up for
1:47:01about 3 and 1/2 days.
1:47:03I gave them two meals a day and one song
1:47:06to sing.
1:47:07And how a unique way of planting seeds
1:47:10so that they'll all come up. Over 90%
1:47:13plus sprouted.
1:47:15Today, if you go there, you will see all
1:47:17the trees are about 27, 28 years of age.
1:47:21Wow.
1:47:22And we planted over 6. whatever number
1:47:25of million trees in a matter of
1:47:283 and 1/2 days.
1:47:31That's why I'm saying you don't have to
1:47:32give up your life if you have the
1:47:34necessary commitment.
1:47:36Everybody can do compensatory work in a
1:47:39very easy manner.
1:47:41And today our temperatures are minimum
1:47:444° less than the city.
1:47:47You can feel it. At that time the
1:47:49mountain was radiating heat in summers.
1:47:51Today it's just cooled the whole place.
1:47:55Wow.
1:47:57So, when I was in Tennessee the
1:47:59Tennessee trees
1:48:01fell in love with them. What to do?
1:48:03>> [laughter]
1:48:04>> I love that. I love that.
1:48:12Could we talk about karma?
1:48:14>> Karma?
1:48:14>> What is it?
1:48:15>> See, the word karma literally means
1:48:18action.
1:48:19In the simplest
1:48:21uh connotation of the word, it means
1:48:22action.
1:48:24What does it mean by action?
1:48:28See, life is action.
1:48:31Whether you sit and laze around or you
1:48:33are in full of action, still there is
1:48:35action going on. As you sit here, this
1:48:37physical action going on, isn't it? In
1:48:40this body.
1:48:41Mental action is going on.
1:48:43Emotional activity is going on.
1:48:45Energetic activity is going on. So, four
1:48:48levels of karma everybody is doing in
1:48:51wakefulness and sleep.
1:48:54Four levels of karma are always
1:48:55happening.
1:48:58As an example
1:49:02since the time you woke up today morning
1:49:05till this moment
1:49:06how much of these four karmas have you
1:49:09performed consciously?
1:49:13>> I don't know.
1:49:15>> You don't know, it's fine. But, it's
1:49:17minuscule.
1:49:19Most of it is happening by itself.
1:49:23I would say for most human beings, it's
1:49:25less than 1%.
1:49:27Way below 1%.
1:49:30Because
1:49:31everything that is happening
1:49:34is not in consciousness. It's just
1:49:36happening.
1:49:38Your breath is happening. How many
1:49:40moments since morning have you been
1:49:41conscious? If it stops, you'll be
1:49:43conscious. If it's becomes difficult,
1:49:45you'll be conscious.
1:49:47But, if it's working, you're not
1:49:48conscious, isn't it?
1:49:50>> This is true.
1:49:52>> So, when 99% of what you're doing is
1:49:56being done unconsciously,
1:49:58life will seem accidental.
1:50:02Suppose you drive
1:50:04from here to somewhere in Nashville,
1:50:06not far away.
1:50:07Just say 20 miles you drive.
1:50:1099% of the time in this,
1:50:13you slept.
1:50:15You know
1:50:17where we should pick you up?
1:50:21Okay.
1:50:23So, this is all that's happening. Karmic
1:50:25tragedy is happening because all the
1:50:27karma is happening unconsciously.
1:50:31If you bring
1:50:342 to 5% into your consciousness, people
1:50:37will think you're a superman.
1:50:40Because suddenly, you look like that.
1:50:45So, karma means action. Whose action? My
1:50:49action.
1:50:50So, right now, the way I'm running my
1:50:53thought, the way I'm running my emotion,
1:50:55my energy, and my body determines the
1:50:57quality of my experience and life, isn't
1:51:00it?
1:51:01>> Yes.
1:51:01>> It may not determine the nature of the
1:51:03world.
1:51:04To some extent, it does, but not 100%.
1:51:08Nobody can determine the situation 100%.
1:51:13Only to some extent we affect it.
1:51:16But what is happening within in the
1:51:18experience of this person or this human
1:51:20being is entirely caused by me.
1:51:24But if 99% is happening unconsciously,
1:51:27it looks like somebody is doing it to
1:51:29me.
1:51:31If you were driving and you slept,
1:51:34it looks like suddenly things happened.
1:51:36Nothing happened, you slept.
1:51:39>> Because it's happening unconsciously.
1:51:41>> Unconscious for a moment and things
1:51:43happened, isn't it?
1:51:44>> Mhm.
1:51:45>> So most of the time we are unconscious,
1:51:46so things are happening in ways that we
1:51:48can't figure.
1:51:50So karma means action.
1:51:53Action should be conscious, but most of
1:51:56it is unconscious. So everything that we
1:51:59can bring into consciousness, if you
1:52:01bring, suddenly you will determine the
1:52:03nature of your experience.
1:52:05So if you can think of what you want
1:52:07right now,
1:52:09is everything fine with you?
1:52:11>> No.
1:52:12>> If you can think of only the way you
1:52:15want, is everything fine with you?
1:52:17>> Yes.
1:52:18>> That's all I'm saying. If you can feel
1:52:20the way you want, is everything great
1:52:22with you?
1:52:23>> Yes.
1:52:24>> If your energy functions the way you
1:52:25want, is your life doing fantastic?
1:52:29>> I believe so.
1:52:31>> Only thing is you can't make the world
1:52:34happen the way you want it.
1:52:37To some extent we can push it.
1:52:40But you can't make it happen totally
1:52:41your way.
1:52:43World will never happen your way 100%
1:52:45ever.
1:52:48And I'm glad it is so, because if
1:52:50everything happened your way, where the
1:52:51hell do I go?
1:52:53>> [laughter]
1:52:55>> Little bit your way, little bit my way,
1:52:57little bit somebody else's way. That's
1:52:59the nature of the world and it's fine.
1:53:01But this one should happen my way, isn't
1:53:03it?
1:53:05>> I see what you're saying.
1:53:06>> If this one happens my way, the quality
1:53:09of my life is determined.
1:53:12Like now,
1:53:13the world is making sure that I'm a
1:53:15failure.
1:53:16>> [laughter]
1:53:19>> But,
1:53:21because this one happens my way, I'm a
1:53:23blissful failure.
1:53:26If this one did not happen my way,
1:53:29failure means misery, isn't it?
1:53:32Cuz one thing that a man seeks is
1:53:33success in every action.
1:53:36The purpose of every action is success,
1:53:38isn't it?
1:53:39Whatever the nature of the action.
1:53:41Whether you are going out there to save
1:53:44your country or you're doing yoga or
1:53:46you're a thief,
1:53:48the purpose of every action is success,
1:53:51isn't it?
1:53:53Yes.
1:53:55So, right now,
1:53:56my actions are a failure.
1:53:58>> [laughter]
1:54:00>> I want 8.4 billion people, but I'm
1:54:02getting only two.
1:54:05Failure.
1:54:07But, what happens here because I decide,
1:54:11I make sure this is a blissful failure.
1:54:14But, normally, if things don't happen
1:54:16your way, you become miserable.
1:54:19This essentially means the external
1:54:22situations
1:54:23determine the nature of your experience.
1:54:26Or in other words, you do not know the
1:54:28distinction
1:54:30between
1:54:31what is psychological and what is
1:54:33existentially true.
1:54:37Your psychological situation is your
1:54:39drama. It's got nothing to do with
1:54:41reality. You can sit here and you think
1:54:44you're in Afghanistan. You can sit here
1:54:46and you can think you're in Timbuktu.
1:54:48You can sit here and you can think
1:54:49you're in top of Mount Everest.
1:54:52But, you're sitting only here.
1:54:54Yes. Yes.
1:54:56In your mind, you can sit on top of
1:54:59Everest and feel cold also if you want.
1:55:01In yoga, we say this a classic example.
1:55:04If I take a piece of rope
1:55:07and throw it at you and say, "Snake."
1:55:11Now, everything that a snake would do to
1:55:14you will happen to you. Blood pressure
1:55:16will go up uh go up. Your heart heart
1:55:18will palpitate palpitate. Somebody may
1:55:20even have a heart attack and die.
1:55:22Everything will happen, but it's just a
1:55:24rope. Only thing is this, the rope
1:55:26cannot bite you, isn't it?
1:55:29Yeah.
1:55:30So, the psychological reality and the
1:55:33existential realities are two different
1:55:35things.
1:55:36People have lost the distinction between
1:55:38the two. They don't understand this is
1:55:40my drama. I need to direct it this my
1:55:42way.
1:55:43They're letting the world direct their
1:55:45psychology.
1:55:47Now, if you leave it to the world, world
1:55:49is crazy. It'll never happen your way.
1:55:53When I say crazy, I'm not saying it's uh
1:55:55wrong. All I'm saying is it'll never
1:55:57happen your way, isn't it?
1:55:59Even if you're just two people at home,
1:56:02100% it'll never happen your way.
1:56:0551% your way, you're the boss.
1:56:08You try more, nobody will be around you.
1:56:11>> [laughter]
1:56:15>> Yes or no?
1:56:16>> Yes.
1:56:19>> So, do you do you believe that what you
1:56:23put into the world will come back to
1:56:24you?
1:56:28As if
1:56:30you pump good
1:56:31>> looking at it like that.
1:56:34>> If you pump
1:56:35bad evil into the
1:56:37>> See, if you take a stone,
1:56:39if you take a stone
1:56:41and throw it there,
1:56:43will it bounce back and hit your head?
1:56:45>> No.
1:56:45>> No. But, you may trip on it if you're
1:56:47not careful.
1:56:50But, if you throw it up,
1:56:52will it come and hit your head? Yes,
1:56:53most probably.
1:56:57This is true with everything, isn't it?
1:57:01If you put it there,
1:57:03it is not going to bounce back and hit
1:57:05you, unless you try a golf ball. I I
1:57:07heard you have a terror of the golf
1:57:09balls.
1:57:11>> [laughter]
1:57:14>> If you throw a golf ball like this on a
1:57:16hard floor, it may come and hit back at
1:57:18you.
1:57:19But if you throw it up,
1:57:21right above your head,
1:57:23uh yes, it's going to land on your head.
1:57:27Depending on the strength of your throw,
1:57:30it may just put a small hole, or it may
1:57:32go right through.
1:57:35So, karma is just action.
1:57:39It will determine the nature of your
1:57:41experience.
1:57:43It will not determine everything in the
1:57:45world,
1:57:46but sometimes it does, depending on the
1:57:48type of action.
1:57:50But the most important thing is karma is
1:57:53not determined Karma is not a question
1:57:56of reward and punishment system. Nobody
1:57:59sitting there and giving you rewards and
1:58:01punishments.
1:58:02It's just that the
1:58:04residual memory is there within you.
1:58:07>> It will alter your reality.
1:58:09>> See,
1:58:10right now, I did something very
1:58:13wonderful yesterday.
1:58:16Now, that residual memory is there
1:58:18within me.
1:58:19Now, suppose you do something See, you
1:58:22put something in this room which makes
1:58:23me sneeze,
1:58:25but I'm okay with you.
1:58:27>> [laughter]
1:58:30[clears throat]
1:58:32>> But if I do something yesterday,
1:58:35which is making me feel nasty, the
1:58:38residual memory is there in me,
1:58:40slightest irritation, I will flare up.
1:58:45>> How would you rid yourself of those
1:58:46memories?
1:58:48>> You don't have to rid it yourself. You
1:58:50just need to understand
1:58:53that
1:58:54they don't determine who you are.
1:58:57Your current karma is what determines
1:59:00who you are.
1:59:02It is trying to tell this that people
1:59:04are bumbling into this thing, be in the
1:59:06moment. Do you understand?
1:59:08>> Mhm.
1:59:09>> Essentially, yesterday's karma is there
1:59:12for everybody.
1:59:13Good, bad, ugly things we might have
1:59:15done knowingly or unknowingly.
1:59:17But
1:59:18right now
1:59:19this moment's karma is in your hands,
1:59:21isn't it?
1:59:22>> Yes.
1:59:23>> How you think, how you feel, how you
1:59:25conduct yourself, is it in your hands?
1:59:28>> Yes.
1:59:29>> If you are conscious
1:59:31if you get little excited it may go out
1:59:34of your hand.
1:59:36It's happening to people all the time.
1:59:38Otherwise, why are people do things and
1:59:40they regret later? Because at that
1:59:43moment they're not conscious enough to
1:59:45determine what to do and what not to do.
1:59:47I am not only
1:59:49talking in terms of action.
1:59:51Even what to think, what not to think,
1:59:53what how to feel, how not to feel.
1:59:55See, right now, if I say something
1:59:58abusive to you
2:00:00immediately, in your mind, maybe 10
2:00:03times more abuse will come. Even you may
2:00:06not say it, but it came.
2:00:08The residual memory of that stays.
2:00:12But
2:00:13if you are determining the nature of
2:00:15your experience, it's like this. A yogi
2:00:19is going
2:00:21to conduct something with the people.
2:00:25On the way, the village people stopped
2:00:28and abused him in every possible way.
2:00:32He heard everything very attentively,
2:00:34not ignoring.
2:00:36Very
2:00:37consciously, attentively he heard.
2:00:39They went on.
2:00:43Then he said, "See,
2:00:44I 10:00 I have a meeting.
2:00:48I'll finish that. On the way I'll come
2:00:50back this way. You can
2:00:52tell me more when I come back.
2:00:55These people are those kind. They said
2:00:5710 things, if he says one thing they
2:00:59will beat him.
2:01:01But he says, "I will finish my work and
2:01:03come back. You can tell me more things."
2:01:07What do you do with this man?
2:01:09Now he's like this not because he's a
2:01:11coward.
2:01:13He's like this because he's master of
2:01:15his mind.
2:01:16That nobody hijacks his life.
2:01:19Nobody hijacks his experience of life.
2:01:23I took it. You say you're saying what
2:01:25you know best.
2:01:27If you're abusing me, what are you
2:01:29talking? Are you talking about me?
2:01:31You're talking what best you know, isn't
2:01:33it?
2:01:35Yes or no?
2:01:36>> Yes.
2:01:37>> If abuse is coming out of you,
2:01:40you're not talking about me.
2:01:42You're talking what is the best things
2:01:44you know.
2:01:45Unfortunately, if that's the best things
2:01:46you know, it's fine.
2:01:48You own This becomes my karma only if I
2:01:51react to it.
2:01:53If I react to it, now your abuse will
2:01:56determine my nature of experience.
2:01:59If I do not react to it,
2:02:02if I consciously look at it, he's saying
2:02:04all these 10 things, how much of it is
2:02:06true with me, how much is not,
2:02:09then I will respond to it consciously as
2:02:11I should.
2:02:13This is not pacifism.
2:02:16You know, this is not about being
2:02:17pacifist. This is responding
2:02:20intelligently and consciously.
2:02:24This is not about reacting. Because the
2:02:26moment I react to you, I have become
2:02:28your slave, isn't it?
2:02:31You determine the nature of my
2:02:32experience. Is that slavery or not?
2:02:35>> It is.
2:02:37>> Unfortunately, everybody is in that,
2:02:39isn't it?
2:02:40>> I believe yes.
2:02:42>> People can determine whether you're
2:02:44peaceful or not. People can determine
2:02:46whether you're happy or not. This is
2:02:49slavery.
2:02:50People ask me, "Sadhguru, how is it so
2:02:53much activity you're doing? All kinds of
2:02:54projects, all kinds of stuff, political
2:02:57things, this, that, everything.
2:03:00How are you always like this?"
2:03:02Said, "I have never given anybody that
2:03:05freedom. They can make me happy or
2:03:08unhappy.
2:03:10They can make me peaceful or be in
2:03:12turmoil. I decide those things.
2:03:15So, it's okay with me.
2:03:18Not that everybody's perfect around me,
2:03:19no.
2:03:21They do stupid things.
2:03:23>> [laughter]
2:03:23>> Many things.
2:03:25When you're so widely active around the
2:03:27world, not everybody's doing perfect
2:03:30things with you.
2:03:32There's lots of idiotic things.
2:03:35But,
2:03:36I don't let someone else decide what is
2:03:38my experience of life.
2:03:41Maybe the work
2:03:43may happen well if all of them go well.
2:03:46May not happen so well if all of them
2:03:48don't go well.
2:03:50But, they will never decide my
2:03:52experience of life.
2:03:54I have taken charge of that.
2:03:57Every human being should take take
2:03:59charge of that because see, if you're
2:04:01feeling wonderful right now,
2:04:04you're feeling blissed out like me, will
2:04:06you do something nasty to me?
2:04:08No.
2:04:10So, joy is an insurance, isn't it?
2:04:13You're feeling nasty right now.
2:04:17Without any reason, you may do some
2:04:18nasty things to me, isn't it?
2:04:21True.
2:04:22Because human beings are only
2:04:24sharing their experience. If there is
2:04:26joy, they share joy. If there is misery,
2:04:28they share misery. If there's
2:04:30resentment, they share resentment. So,
2:04:32the most important responsibility that
2:04:35you have is you keep this life pleasant
2:04:38and well.
2:04:40If pleasantness happens, then one more
2:04:43requirement comes.
2:04:45You want to be profound.
2:04:48In search of profoundness, how [sighs]
2:04:50people seek sexuality,
2:04:53bottles,
2:04:55No, what's in the bottle?
2:04:58They seek drink, whatever alcohol,
2:05:00drugs, this, that.
2:05:04Somebody seeks God, somebody goes to the
2:05:06temple, somebody meditate, somebody will
2:05:08do yoga.
2:05:10All this, why?
2:05:12In search of pleasantness and
2:05:13profoundness. Somebody says all this
2:05:16will not work, I will go to heaven.
2:05:18Why? Because advertisements have always
2:05:21said
2:05:22heaven is a very pleasant place.
2:05:26Right from your childhood, if I told you
2:05:28God lives in heaven, but it's a
2:05:30horrendous place, do you want to go
2:05:31there? No.
2:05:33You'll say I'll pray from here only. Let
2:05:35him be there.
2:05:37But they have advertised that it's a
2:05:38pleasant place. So all I'm saying is
2:05:41whether you want to drink, or you want
2:05:43to drug, or you want to meditate, or you
2:05:45want to do yoga, or you want to go to
2:05:46heaven, essentially you are in search of
2:05:49pleasantness and profoundness.
2:05:54But human experience
2:05:56is caused from within. Is that a fact?
2:05:59Yes.
2:06:02Neither pain or pleasure ever came from
2:06:05outside. Stimuli may come from outside.
2:06:08Pain came from inside, pleasure came
2:06:10from inside, isn't it?
2:06:12Yes. Joy came from inside, misery came
2:06:14from inside.
2:06:16Stimuli may come from outside.
2:06:19Agony and ecstasy also came from inside,
2:06:22isn't it?
2:06:23All human experience comes from within
2:06:25you.
2:06:26What is coming from within you,
2:06:29if it that doesn't come the way you
2:06:31want,
2:06:32Isn't that a major derailment of life?
2:06:35>> Yes.
2:06:37>> That's what we need to fix. But we are
2:06:39trying to fix the world all the time.
2:06:41No, world is not the problem. Yes, some
2:06:43things need to change. We will work on
2:06:45that. But
2:06:47without you and me being well,
2:06:50how will the world be well? It's just a
2:06:51joke.
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2:08:15>> What helps us fix ourselves?
2:08:17Is it yoga?
2:08:18>> What? I'm sorry.
2:08:19>> Yoga?
2:08:21What What is What are some
2:08:23>> I'm afraid to use the word yoga in
2:08:25United States.
2:08:27>> Okay.
2:08:27>> [laughter]
2:08:28>> Because people think yoga means roll up
2:08:31a mat, keep it under your arm armpit,
2:08:34and wear Lululemon pants, and go to that
2:08:36fancy place, and twist and turn, and
2:08:38look like a leftover noodle.
2:08:40That is not I mean, I'm not saying
2:08:42that's not yoga at all, but I'm saying
2:08:44that's a very rudimentary understanding
2:08:46of yoga.
2:08:49The word yoga means
2:08:52union.
2:08:53Yog means union.
2:08:57What needs to be united here?
2:09:00We already went through this, your
2:09:01breath.
2:09:03Your exhalation and trees' exhalation,
2:09:05inhalation, all happening together.
2:09:08Suppose you sat here
2:09:11and actually experienced it.
2:09:13This what I did with people.
2:09:17Because a UN agency came and said
2:09:22the southernmost Are you familiar with
2:09:23India?
2:09:25>> A little bit.
2:09:26>> Been there?
2:09:27>> Yes.
2:09:28>> Which part?
2:09:29>> Mumbai.
2:09:30>> Okay. Further south is Tamil Nadu,
2:09:32Chennai. You heard of Chennai?
2:09:34>> No.
2:09:35>> Bangalore?
2:09:36>> Yes.
2:09:37>> Okay.
2:09:38So, further south, the southernmost
2:09:41state in the country is called Tamil
2:09:42Nadu.
2:09:44Which is where our center is right now.
2:09:47I'm from close to Bangalore,
2:09:49a city called Mysore, but our center is
2:09:53in Tamil Nadu, which is the southernmost
2:09:55tip of India.
2:09:56This whole aspect of
2:09:59what we call as yoga.
2:10:02I was just looking at this, and one day
2:10:05some UN experts came to Tamil Nadu.
2:10:09I got to meet them, and
2:10:11they said
2:10:13in the next This is in late '90s.
2:10:18Not even late '90s, mid '90s.
2:10:20They said
2:10:22by 2025
2:10:2460% of Tamil Nadu will become a desert.
2:10:28I said, "What?" It's one of the richest
2:10:30agricultural states, among the richest.
2:10:33We have agricultural history of over
2:10:3512,000 years. Same land we've been
2:10:37tilling. Four crops in a year we take.
2:10:41Rich lands.
2:10:43And these guys are saying
2:10:45in 25-30 years you'll become a desert,
2:10:4760%.
2:10:50As I don't believe anybody's anything, I
2:10:52want to see myself.
2:10:53So, I just drove across Tamil Nadu.
2:10:57Crisscrossed.
2:10:59And then I saw what they were saying was
2:11:02not right.
2:11:03That it'll happen much sooner.
2:11:07Because
2:11:08three major rivers had gone dry.
2:11:12Dozens and dozens of tributaries have
2:11:14gone dry completely.
2:11:17People are taking sand home. They've
2:11:18built homes on the riverbeds.
2:11:22And when you go and test the soil, it's
2:11:25all becoming sand. Soil is becoming
2:11:27sand.
2:11:30And I go to the coastal regions and see
2:11:33people have emptied the whole villages
2:11:35and gone somewhere because the marine
2:11:37ingress is happening.
2:11:39That is the marine water is has come
2:11:42into wells and sweet water has turned
2:11:44salty. So, people have left and gone
2:11:46elsewhere to cities.
2:11:49I thought, "Wow, it's not going to go
2:11:51till 2025."
2:11:54Then I checked the national aspiration
2:11:56in India is 33% green cover should be
2:11:59there in every state.
2:12:02But Tamil Nadu had 16.5%.
2:12:06So, I made a simple barefoot
2:12:07calculation. This many thousand square
2:12:10kilometers and of land, so how many
2:12:14trees you have to plant to make it 33%?
2:12:16So, I came up with a number, 114 million
2:12:19trees if you plant
2:12:22in the next 6 years time, in the next 12
2:12:25to 15 years time, you will have
2:12:2733% green cover. That means we would
2:12:30have prevented this desertification.
2:12:31[clears throat]
2:12:34But how to plant?
2:12:36So, a small call a small group of people
2:12:38and say, "Hey, we need to plant 114
2:12:40million trees."
2:12:42They roll their eyeballs. "Sadhguru, do
2:12:44you know what is 114 million? How many
2:12:46zeros in that?
2:12:48How can anybody plant 114 million
2:12:50trees?"
2:12:52Then I asked, "What's the population?"
2:12:5462 million.
2:12:57Then if all of us plant one tree today,
2:13:00take care of it for 2 years, and plant
2:13:02one more, we got the number.
2:13:04Just that we don't do it. That's all our
2:13:06problem is.
2:13:08So, I got a few thousand people.
2:13:10I know they won't get the point if I
2:13:12just say. Around 11:30 I met them.
2:13:15All Tamil people, you know, small town,
2:13:18rural people, everything.
2:13:21Naturally, they get washed up and put to
2:13:23fresh clothes and silk sarees and
2:13:25everything. Women, children, everybody
2:13:27came and sat. The meeting is in open
2:13:30place
2:13:31where it's hot.
2:13:3211:00 sun.
2:13:35They're all sitting and sweating.
2:13:38I came and I also sat there in the sun.
2:13:41I'm simply
2:13:43gossiping with them.
2:13:45>> [laughter]
2:13:46>> Letting them burn down a little bit.
2:13:48After they Initially, they're laughing,
2:13:50happy. I'm telling them so many things.
2:13:53Then slowly they're wilting away, the
2:13:55sun.
2:13:57They're looking at me like this. What's
2:13:59wrong with Sadhguru?
2:14:01He's just making us sit. Close by, there
2:14:04are huge rain trees, about five trees,
2:14:07which each tree covers more than 3/4 of
2:14:09an acre.
2:14:10That kind of massive trees. They are
2:14:13right there.
2:14:14But I'm sitting in the sun.
2:14:16They are also sitting in some building
2:14:17away. They are looking at me something
2:14:20is lost it or something.
2:14:22I said made him sit there for about 1
2:14:24and 1/2 hours to 1 hour 45 minutes.
2:14:27When I saw everybody was like wilting
2:14:29away, I said come.
2:14:31And we walked and went and sat under the
2:14:33tree.
2:14:35>> [laughter]
2:14:37>> You know a tree is such a fantastic
2:14:39thing if you really burn down in the
2:14:41sun, you go under the tree.
2:14:44Fresh life comes into you.
2:14:46I said is this nice? Yes, very nice.
2:14:50Said this is all we need to do. And I
2:14:52made them sit down and do a certain kind
2:14:54of meditative process.
2:14:56Where I made them experience what you
2:14:59exhale this tree is inhaling. What the
2:15:01tree exhales you are inhaling. They sat
2:15:03like this breathing breathing breathing.
2:15:06Now you can't stop them from planting
2:15:08trees.
2:15:10>> [laughter]
2:15:12>> Because suddenly you realize one half of
2:15:14your lungs is hanging out there.
2:15:17This is yoga.
2:15:19That you realize there is a union.
2:15:22So if this happens,
2:15:24how can this happen?
2:15:25Can we do a little experiment with you?
2:15:27Yeah.
2:15:29Uncross your legs.
2:15:33>> [clears throat]
2:15:35>> Say with your eyes closed, hold your
2:15:37palms like this.
2:15:39And uh for about 2 minutes.
2:15:44Whisk.
2:15:45Eyes closed.
2:16:05Now hold the palms about 4 in away from
2:16:08each other.
2:16:10Eyes closed.
2:16:19You notice something happening between
2:16:20your hands?
2:16:22>> Feels like
2:16:25opposite magnets.
2:16:26>> Mhm?
2:16:27>> Feels like magnets.
2:16:29>> Whatever, some sensation beyond your
2:16:31physical body, right?
2:16:34Yeah?
2:16:34>> Yes.
2:16:35>> So, there is a sensation beyond your
2:16:38body just because of brisk brisk action.
2:16:42But, uh please, you can open your eyes.
2:16:44You have uh definitely because you've
2:16:46been in those situations, you have seen
2:16:48people losing limbs.
2:16:51Unfortunately, either because of road
2:16:53accidents or in the
2:16:57battles and wars, unfortunately, these
2:16:59things happen.
2:17:00Somebody lost a limb.
2:17:05A leg may be gone,
2:17:06but they still have sensations of a
2:17:09non-existent leg.
2:17:11Yes?
2:17:12>> Yes, I do.
2:17:13>> It's called the phantom leg.
2:17:17That means beyond the physical body,
2:17:19there is a sensory body.
2:17:23Your sensation is the outermost part of
2:17:26who you are, isn't it?
2:17:28So, right now we'll do a simple
2:17:29experiment.
2:17:31Just touch this and see. Your right hand
2:17:33touch your left hand.
2:17:35Is that you?
2:17:36>> Yes.
2:17:37>> Yes.
2:17:38Touch this furniture and see.
2:17:40Is that you?
2:17:42>> No.
2:17:43>> How do you know?
2:17:44>> Because I can't feel.
2:17:46>> Here, there is sensation. Here, there is
2:17:47no sensation. So, what is the definition
2:17:50of yourself?
2:17:51Whatever is within your sensation,
2:17:54boundaries of your sensation, is you.
2:17:57Whatever is outside the boundaries of
2:17:59your sensation is not you, isn't it?
2:18:01>> Correct.
2:18:02>> Right now, this bottle of water
2:18:05is sitting there.
2:18:06Is that me?
2:18:08>> No.
2:18:09>> If I drink it, does it become me?
2:18:11>> Yes.
2:18:12>> What happened? All I did was what was in
2:18:16the bottle, I put it into the boundaries
2:18:18of my sensation, suddenly it's me, isn't
2:18:21it?
2:18:21>> Mhm.
2:18:22>> Suddenly, everything that we have eaten
2:18:24and consumed became us because it came
2:18:27into the boundaries of our sensation.
2:18:29So, what is
2:18:31of sensation is you.
2:18:33What is outside the boundaries of
2:18:35sensation is not you. That's a
2:18:36fundamental definition of your
2:18:38experience of myself.
2:18:41Let us say
2:18:42Let us say you are 100 kg.
2:18:47And you came to me, I made you 75 kg. I
2:18:51can do that to anybody.
2:18:53>> [laughter]
2:18:54>> Without any drugs or medicine.
2:18:56So, I made you 75 kg. Will you go about
2:18:59searching where is my 20 kg, 25 kg of
2:19:03Shawn?
2:19:05No, it's not you anymore because it's
2:19:07went outside the boundaries of
2:19:08sensation.
2:19:10This is the fundamental definition of
2:19:12your experience of yourself.
2:19:14What is within the boundaries of
2:19:16sensation is you. What is outside the
2:19:19boundaries of sensation is not you.
2:19:23Now,
2:19:24suppose I taught you a simple way where
2:19:28you can make the boundaries of your
2:19:29sensation as large as Tennessee.
2:19:34Let's not go that far. I made it as
2:19:36large as this room, let's say.
2:19:39Now, I am also in the boundary of your
2:19:41sensation.
2:19:42Now, you experience me as a part of
2:19:44yourself. You experience everything
2:19:46animate, inanimate as a part of
2:19:48yourself.
2:19:50Once you experience me and everything
2:19:53around you as a part of yourself, do I
2:19:55have to teach you thou shall not kill,
2:19:58thou shall not do this, thou shall not
2:19:59do that?
2:20:02No.
2:20:03What is part of you? You anyway do your
2:20:06best, isn't it? Mhm.
2:20:08This is yoga.
2:20:10Yoga means you experienced
2:20:13beyond your physical limitations that
2:20:16what I thought was myself, suddenly I
2:20:18realized what is me is not just this.
2:20:21One half of my lungs is hanging out on
2:20:23the tree. This this this everything
2:20:25because I expanded
2:20:27the boundaries of my sensation or I
2:20:30opened it in such a way that
2:20:32entire cosmos is a part of me, then we
2:20:34say you're a yogi.
2:20:37If you experience whole creation as a
2:20:39part of yourself, then we say you're a
2:20:41yogi. Otherwise, you're a yoga
2:20:43practitioner.
2:20:45You twist and turn, you don't become a
2:20:47yogi. Anyone who twists and turns, they
2:20:51call themselves yogis. No, no, no. You
2:20:54must know some some sense of union.
2:20:57You might not have heard the word yoga
2:20:59in your life.
2:21:00But you sat there and felt one with
2:21:02everything. You're a yogi. You
2:21:04understand?
2:21:06This is not because of a certain
2:21:08practice.
2:21:10If you didn't have enough sense, we'll
2:21:11teach you practice.
2:21:13Otherwise, if you have enough sense
2:21:17that if you're not too identified with
2:21:19this and that that you're grown up with,
2:21:20if you simply open your eyes and look at
2:21:23the world,
2:21:24you will be one with everything.
2:21:27Just human intelligence is capable of
2:21:29this. This is why we call you a being,
2:21:33not a creature.
2:21:36That you should know how to be.
2:21:38Make sense?
2:21:39>> It sounds like you're saying that a lot
2:21:42of problems with humanity come from,
2:21:44maybe all problems with humanity come
2:21:46from
2:21:47an identity crisis.
2:21:49Am I wrong?
2:21:51>> Let me read this for you. This is
2:21:52another poem.
2:21:53>> Okay.
2:21:54>> So, Nirgun, that means attributeless.
2:21:58As there is nothing I truly
2:22:00[clears throat] call as mine,
2:22:03neither this body nor any body,
2:22:06neither this world nor the other,
2:22:10neither friends nor foes belong.
2:22:13No fear of losing,
2:22:15no anticipation of gain.
2:22:18Here I am a transparence without
2:22:20substance,
2:22:22a presence without persona,
2:22:24a being without self.
2:22:28Hence, activity has become stillness.
2:22:31The din of the world, my silence.
2:22:34The very cosmos, my being.
2:22:37This is yoga.
2:22:43>> The very cosmos, my being.
2:22:45>> Yep.
2:22:47This is yoga. That means you're one with
2:22:49everything in your
2:22:50>> experience. Not as an ideology, not as
2:22:52an intellectual thought,
2:22:54but a living experience. Because your
2:22:57living experience is determined by where
2:22:59you hold your sensory body.
2:23:02>> So, how do you know when you've achieved
2:23:04that?
2:23:05>> It's not an achievement.
2:23:08It's a homecoming.
2:23:13Even physically, if you look at it,
2:23:16the soil that you're walking upon and
2:23:17the body that you carry as mine are the
2:23:20>> same thing, isn't it?
2:23:22>> Will we get it now
2:23:24and transform ourselves,
2:23:26or one day
2:23:28will shall we get it from the maggots
2:23:29and become good manure?
2:23:32This is a choice we have.
2:23:36If we get it now,
2:23:37our life could transform.
2:23:40We could walk
2:23:41more with much more sensitivity on this
2:23:44planet.
2:23:45Otherwise, we still make good manure.
2:23:50I'm saying it's not
2:23:52necessarily wasted.
2:23:53>> [laughter]
2:23:56>> I guess what I'm asking is is how how
2:23:57would you how would somebody know that
2:23:59they have
2:24:01that they have
2:24:03become one with everything.
2:24:05>> See, even if you don't have eyes,
2:24:07sun comes up, you know, isn't it?
2:24:10It tells you in so many ways.
2:24:13There's no question of missing it.
2:24:15Okay, but it's not an achievement.
2:24:18It's just that let me
2:24:21Look, see right now we're sitting here.
2:24:25Suppose this was not a building, we were
2:24:27sitting outside in the
2:24:30in the land.
2:24:32If we simply sat here, sat sat there,
2:24:34sat there, sat there, sat there,
2:24:37we would become part of the earth, isn't
2:24:39it?
2:24:42So, did you achieve something becoming
2:24:43part of the earth or soil?
2:24:45>> It just happened.
2:24:47>> That's where you came from, that's where
2:24:49you went back.
2:24:50Homecoming it is.
2:24:51>> Okay.
2:24:52>> Not a you reach somewhere, no. You just
2:24:55fell back into the lap of creation as
2:24:58you should be. Whether you like it or
2:25:00not, that's where you are anyway.
2:25:04So, this is why we say this is a
2:25:06realization.
2:25:08This is not an achievement, this is not
2:25:09an attainment. A realization means what?
2:25:12Something was always here, but you
2:25:14didn't see it.
2:25:17Today you saw it. You realized means
2:25:20that
2:25:21that you were stupid, what was hanging
2:25:23right in front of your eyes you did not
2:25:25see, today you saw.
2:25:28This doesn't mean you achieved
2:25:29something. You realized.
2:25:32>> I have been trying some
2:25:35I wouldn't necessarily call it
2:25:37meditation, but
2:25:39maybe
2:25:42I'm trying to experience some type of a
2:25:44calmness, some type of a peace.
2:25:46And
2:25:49so you you say we live This isn't where
2:25:51I live, but we're out in the woods. I
2:25:53also live out in the but we live out in
2:25:55the woods.
2:25:57And
2:25:59>> Why do you want to sell America that?
2:26:01>> No.
2:26:03But I've actually never even talked
2:26:05about this. I've never told anybody this
2:26:06because it sounds probably stupid. But
2:26:11I really started paying attention to
2:26:14depth perception.
2:26:18And trying to view the world
2:26:21and more of a
2:26:23uh three-dimensional
2:26:25um
2:26:28I don't know, experience.
2:26:30You know, so
2:26:31>> Well, at least three-dimensional, isn't
2:26:32it?
2:26:33>> Say that again.
2:26:34>> The world is already three-dimensional,
2:26:36isn't it?
2:26:36>> Yes, but sometimes I don't see it that
2:26:38way. Sometimes when I'm not paying
2:26:39attention, when I'm in a rush, when I'm
2:26:41thinking about other things
2:26:43I don't it Yes, it's three-dimensional.
2:26:47It is.
2:26:48But it appears maybe
2:26:51two-dimensional, one-dimensional.
2:26:53>> How do you see the moon?
2:26:55Most people see it as a plate.
2:26:57>> [laughter]
2:26:58>> That's kind of what I'm getting at.
2:27:00And so what I really pay attention to
2:27:02are the trees, the branches, the leaves,
2:27:05how far apart they are from each other,
2:27:07the depth perception perception in
2:27:09between trees, then the the depth
2:27:12perception perception in between the
2:27:14trees and me.
2:27:15Uh and it it's also like I lose a sense
2:27:20of self. Not completely, but
2:27:23um
2:27:25maybe 75% of the way there.
2:27:27And I've only able to achieve to achieve
2:27:30uh losing my sense of self through
2:27:33uh certain psychedelics, like
2:27:36experiencing an ego death. But for
2:27:38whatever reason
2:27:40and this is kind of a new
2:27:43new thing for me
2:27:45that I've discovered is when I when I
2:27:46really pay attention to my depth
2:27:48perception and the distance in between
2:27:50objects in nature and particularly
2:27:53um
2:27:55it brings a
2:27:57I already described it. Do you know what
2:27:59I'm talking about? Mhm.
2:28:02>> I must tell you this.
2:28:05For me
2:28:06if I look at anything
2:28:08if I see you
2:28:11I don't see
2:28:14initially when I see you the first thing
2:28:16I see is the geometry of your body.
2:28:19Similarly if I see a tree if I see
2:28:22anything
2:28:23first thing I see is the geometry of
2:28:25what it is.
2:28:27For me the deepest experience is always
2:28:30after physical stuff is always geometry.
2:28:34I drive it.
2:28:35>> [laughter]
2:28:36>> I drive into my garage
2:28:39at
2:28:4035 40 kilometers per hour
2:28:43and then stop
2:28:442 inches away from the wall.
2:28:46Very important for me.
2:28:48People say Sadhguru you come in so fast
2:28:51suppose you can't brake in time you'll
2:28:53be in the bedroom.
2:28:55I said that day I'll stop driving.
2:28:59Because
2:29:01in my mind
2:29:03it's just the whole shape and size of
2:29:05the garage how it is everything is
2:29:07figured out.
2:29:10I don't think I'll make a mistake unless
2:29:11I've lost my faculties.
2:29:15Because I don't hit any bottles I don't
2:29:17lose my faculties
2:29:18>> [laughter]
2:29:18>> and they're full on.
2:29:20Why I'm saying this is
2:29:24what you're saying is important.
2:29:28In this in engineering book there is a
2:29:30simple method I've given people. I said,
2:29:32"Just watch.
2:29:34Make the tap drip
2:29:36like one drop every few seconds kind of
2:29:39thing. Make it drip like that. Just
2:29:41watch how it takes shape, how it's
2:29:44drops, how it splashes on the ground,
2:29:47and spreads. Just watch. Simply watch.
2:29:50What will I get? Nothing.
2:29:52Because the greatest thing in human
2:29:55experience or human faculty is
2:29:58attention.
2:30:00Conscious attention.
2:30:02If you pay conscious attention to the
2:30:04simplest things, fantastic things will
2:30:06happen.
2:30:09It's not about the
2:30:10phenomena that you're watching. It's not
2:30:13about the water drops. It's not about
2:30:14the breath. It's not about the trees.
2:30:16It's not about the person, you know.
2:30:19The structure of the trees.
2:30:21It is the keenness of attention.
2:30:25If you develop that keenness of
2:30:27attention,
2:30:29if there is sufficient attention,
2:30:32every door in the universe has to open
2:30:34to you.
2:30:37It's that attention which is missing.
2:30:40Today people are carrying their lack of
2:30:43attention
2:30:44as a qualification. I have attention
2:30:47deficiency as a qualification.
2:30:50This happened.
2:30:52You heard of Andrew Carnegie?
2:30:57Andrew Carnegie?
2:30:58>> Mhm.
2:30:59>> The Carnegie guy who became very
2:31:01successful in late 1900s and early 20th
2:31:04century. Those days he started making a
2:31:07lot of money. More money than anybody
2:31:09else was making for those times. Not
2:31:11like today everybody's talking trillion
2:31:13dollars, not that kind.
2:31:15But big money. So US government became
2:31:18suspicious
2:31:19that he's doing something
2:31:21hanky-panky.
2:31:23How is he making so much money?
2:31:26So they had a investigation by the
2:31:27congressman.
2:31:29They checked everything. Everything was
2:31:32proper. Nothing is not doing any crime.
2:31:35Then they asked, "How do you make so
2:31:36much money?"
2:31:38He said,
2:31:39"See, I can keep my mind absolutely
2:31:42focused on something for 5 minutes at a
2:31:44stretch.
2:31:46Can any of you do that?" They thought
2:31:48this is a joke. Well, what makes you
2:31:50think we cannot focus on 5 minutes? We
2:31:52can do it. He set up an experiment. Most
2:31:55people could not hold it for 10 seconds.
2:31:58Then he said, "You guys should not be
2:32:00running United States."
2:32:03>> [laughter]
2:32:05>> Because it's in the attention.
2:32:08In yoga we call this pragna.
2:32:12That means
2:32:13you hold your attention in such a way
2:32:16slowly you become conscious.
2:32:19If you hold your attention on something,
2:32:21it doesn't matter what.
2:32:23You understand?
2:32:24>> Mhm.
2:32:24>> Doesn't matter what. You can hold it on
2:32:26this microphone. You can hold it on that
2:32:28bottle. You can just
2:32:30stare at nothing, but attention.
2:32:34Conscious attention. If you stay that
2:32:36way, slowly the very cosmos will open up
2:32:39for you because your consciousness
2:32:40opened up. Once your consciousness
2:32:43opened up, see, the boundary of your
2:32:45body is framed by your memory.
2:32:48See, why that's your body, this is my
2:32:51body, this is one kind of memory, that's
2:32:53another kind of memory.
2:32:54>> Isn't it?
2:32:55>> Yes.
2:32:56>> In terms of genetics, this, that, that,
2:32:58whatever. Eight different forms of
2:33:00memory. That's one body of memory, this
2:33:03is another body of memory.
2:33:06If I touch something within myself,
2:33:09which doesn't have any memory, but which
2:33:11is conscious,
2:33:12now what happens?
2:33:14Who I am becomes both everything.
2:33:19Well, one simple way of saying that is
2:33:20it's yoga,
2:33:22but it's also pragna. That means you
2:33:24became conscious.
2:33:27Fully conscious.
2:33:30See, how conscious one is
2:33:33is a question of varying degrees from
2:33:35person to person, isn't it?
2:33:38You woke up in the morning. When you
2:33:39were sleeping, you were unconscious kind
2:33:41of.
2:33:42Still you're conscious. Little one poke
2:33:44you, you'll wake up.
2:33:45But reasonably unconscious. You woke up
2:33:49little groggy.
2:33:51You are somewhat conscious.
2:33:54Uh after some time later, you're much
2:33:55more conscious. Then you got up and went
2:33:57out in the sunlight, you're really much
2:33:59more conscious. So, I'm saying
2:34:01consciousness has different voltages to
2:34:03it.
2:34:04So, essentially it's this.
2:34:07People are trying to be conscious.
2:34:10Don't do that.
2:34:11What is needed is a higher voltage.
2:34:15You know you there is a dimmer on the
2:34:16light.
2:34:17What is it? You're controlling the
2:34:18voltage.
2:34:21If you
2:34:23let's say there are two lights lighting
2:34:24us up.
2:34:25Now one I switched off.
2:34:28You disappeared in my perception.
2:34:31You're still very much there.
2:34:34But I switched off that light.
2:34:36Light is only upon me.
2:34:39I think only I'm sitting in the room.
2:34:42But I turned on that light, suddenly you
2:34:46are there, isn't it?
2:34:47You are always there.
2:34:49But in my perception
2:34:52only now you are there. I turned up the
2:34:54light much more. Now so many things are
2:34:57there in this room.
2:34:59This is just like that.
2:35:01Don't try to be conscious. Just turn up
2:35:03the voltage. In yoga, there are many
2:35:06many systems, different systems for
2:35:08different people how to turn up your
2:35:10voltage. You turn up your voltage,
2:35:13naturally you will see life in much more
2:35:15vivid clarity.
2:35:18Right now, you're trying to do it the
2:35:20other way around. You're trying to do
2:35:23that, watch it,
2:35:24and slowly voltage may go up.
2:35:27It's possible, but it's a more difficult
2:35:29path.
2:35:31But if you turn up the voltage, it
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2:37:17>> How can you control the voltage?
2:37:22>> You can turn it up.
2:37:24>> How?
2:37:27>> Say you've been in the army.
2:37:29Sometimes you're a little like this.
2:37:32Something needed. Don't you turn up your
2:37:33wattage?
2:37:34>> Mhm.
2:37:34>> Isn't
2:37:35>> It's adrenaline.
2:37:36>> You're talking suddenly talking about
2:37:37chemistry. Now we will have to talk
2:37:39about chemistry.
2:37:40>> [laughter]
2:37:41>> Okay.
2:37:41>> Because you must understand
2:37:45the chemistry
2:37:48for painful experiences.
2:37:50And the chemistry for pleasurable exp-
2:37:53experiences. The fundamental chemistry
2:37:55is same.
2:37:57The chem- chemistry for fearful
2:38:00experiences. Chemistry for exciting
2:38:03experiences. Fundamental chemistry is
2:38:05same. It's the context of your framework
2:38:08of your mind which makes this pleasure
2:38:10or pain, stress or excitement.
2:38:14Agony or ecstasy. This is determined not
2:38:17by the chemistry. Chemistry is just the
2:38:19same. It pitches up.
2:38:21When it pitches up, if you're in the
2:38:22right framework of mind, then this
2:38:25becomes pleasure. If in the wrong
2:38:27framework of mind, it becomes pain.
2:38:29Same things when they're done to people,
2:38:32sometimes it causes pleasure. Your
2:38:35friend came and tickled you.
2:38:38It feels like pleasure.
2:38:41Somebody that you don't like came and
2:38:42tickled you.
2:38:46Unpleasant, isn't it?
2:38:47>> Mhm.
2:38:48>> Because it's the frame of your context.
2:38:51So it's the context that you need to
2:38:53change, not the content of your life.
2:38:56Content doesn't decide the quality of
2:38:58your life. It's the context.
2:39:01So changing that context is the most
2:39:03important thing. Every human experience
2:39:06has a chemical basis.
2:39:08What you call a space has one chemistry,
2:39:11misery has another chemistry, joy is
2:39:13another chemistry. All these have
2:39:15chemical basis to it.
2:39:18Why are we creating wrong chemistry?
2:39:22We are creating wrong chemistry because
2:39:24we're doing so many things
2:39:25unconsciously. We can do experiments,
2:39:27you can do it by yourself also.
2:39:30See, if you just hold your hands like
2:39:32this.
2:39:36Hold it like this comfortably.
2:39:38Place it on your thighs.
2:39:41Sit with your spine reasonably erect,
2:39:42otherwise you cannot notice it.
2:39:52I will tell you what happens. We could
2:39:54make it like an experiment, but I'll
2:39:56tell you. You just do it and see. If you
2:39:58hold it like this and may take a deep
2:40:01inhalation and exhalation, you will see
2:40:04maximum expansion and contraction
2:40:06happens in the lower lobe of the lung.
2:40:09If you just turn this around and
2:40:11breathe,
2:40:12you will see
2:40:14it'll happen more in the middle and
2:40:16upper lobe,
2:40:17less in the lower lobe. Just try that
2:40:20and see.
2:40:23Mhm. Is it so? Mhm.
2:40:26So, just if you turn your hands like
2:40:28this, the very way you breathe is
2:40:31changing.
2:40:34It's not just the breath. The very way
2:40:36your life energy's function is altering
2:40:38itself just because you turn your hands
2:40:40like this. How many times in a day are
2:40:43you
2:40:44doing this?
2:40:45>> A lot.
2:40:45>> I see you are sitting quite still
2:40:48compared to a lot of people.
2:40:50Okay.
2:40:50>> [laughter]
2:40:51>> Maybe it's your training and needing to
2:40:54be in a certain way. But today young
2:40:56people are whatever they talk, they're
2:40:58talking like this.
2:41:00So, you do this this this,
2:41:03and you expect yourself to be peaceful.
2:41:05All the best.
2:41:07>> [laughter]
2:41:10>> The nature of this world is such
2:41:14unless you do the right things, right
2:41:15things will not happen to you. It's as
2:41:17simple as that.
2:41:19You know, the moment I say this, people
2:41:21will say, "I did the right things, but
2:41:22you know what that guy did?" All right,
2:41:24that's what is wrong with you.
2:41:26What that guy did is determining who you
2:41:29are. That's a wrong thing you're doing,
2:41:30isn't it?
2:41:31>> Yes, it is.
2:41:34>> Unless you do the right things, right
2:41:36things will not happen here.
2:41:40So yoga is the science of understanding
2:41:43how to hold your body, how to breathe,
2:41:45how to sit, how to do everything
2:41:48so that you move into a higher
2:41:50possibility that nobody determines what
2:41:52happens here except you.
2:41:55What happens in the world, everybody has
2:41:56a share.
2:41:57You know, we talked a lot about
2:41:59consciousness.
2:42:02>> What do you think happens when we die?
2:42:04>> What?
2:42:05>> What do you think happens
2:42:06>> [laughter]
2:42:06>> when we die?
2:42:07>> The usual thing I would tell people is
2:42:10you can know certain things only by
2:42:12experience.
2:42:14Are you ready? Will you know?
2:42:17>> [laughter]
2:42:18>> See, the simple thing is this.
2:42:22The question that you're asking is
2:42:26beyond this body, what?
2:42:29Right?
2:42:29>> Yes.
2:42:31>> But why are you asking that question in
2:42:33the context of when you lose the body?
2:42:35When you have the body, why don't you
2:42:37look
2:42:39beyond this body, what?
2:42:41Because right now all your faculties are
2:42:42in place, your intelligence is in place.
2:42:45This is the time to look at it, isn't
2:42:46it?
2:42:49If I tell you what happens after death,
2:42:52I will tell you after death your soul
2:42:54will come out and go through this
2:42:56microphone. This is a tube. It'll go up
2:42:59and go there.
2:43:01I'm telling a ridiculous story.
2:43:03But if I tell you a nicely packaged
2:43:05story,
2:43:06maybe you will believe me.
2:43:09Or maybe you will disbelieve me.
2:43:11Only two choices you have.
2:43:13Yes?
2:43:14If I talk about something that is not in
2:43:16your experience, what is your choice?
2:43:19Believe me or disbelieve me.
2:43:21If you believe me,
2:43:23you have a nice fairy tale to tell.
2:43:27If you disbelieve me, you have a nasty
2:43:29story to tell about me.
2:43:31Both will not get you any closer to the
2:43:33truth than the way you are right now,
2:43:35isn't it?
2:43:37So, the important thing is this.
2:43:40Is it true
2:43:41that you gathered this body over a
2:43:43period of time?
2:43:44Yes, it's true.
2:43:46Is it true that you gathered this mind
2:43:48also over a period of time? Yes. The
2:43:50content.
2:43:51>> Mhm.
2:43:52>> The content of this body and the content
2:43:54of this mind you gathered slowly over a
2:43:57period of time.
2:43:59Whatever you gather,
2:44:02you can say it belongs to me.
2:44:05You cannot say it's me, isn't it?
2:44:12I don't know. If I say
2:44:15this is my cup,
2:44:18all right?
2:44:19Maybe.
2:44:20>> Mhm.
2:44:22>> One day, they'll take it away.
2:44:25Hello?
2:44:25>> Yeah.
2:44:26>> One day, anyway, we'll leave it and go.
2:44:28>> Mhm.
2:44:29>> But I'm stupid. I say this is my cup.
2:44:32All right, you'll bear with me.
2:44:35But if I say this is me,
2:44:37then you know I am a case.
2:44:41This you're doing every day. Food
2:44:42appears on your plate and you say this
2:44:44is my food.
2:44:46You eat it and then you say it's me.
2:44:49Crazy or not?
2:44:51>> No.
2:44:52What?
2:44:53>> [laughter]
2:44:54>> Because I mean, if you consume
2:44:56something, it absorbs into you.
2:44:57>> All right.
2:44:59But what you're carrying here is
2:45:01something that you gathered from the
2:45:02earth, isn't it?
2:45:03>> Yes.
2:45:04>> And one day you'll give it back.
2:45:05>> Mhm.
2:45:07>> So it's yours for now.
2:45:10But not you.
2:45:13Hello?
2:45:13>> Yep. Okay.
2:45:15>> So your body belongs to you. I
2:45:17appreciate that for now.
2:45:19One day maggots will dispute that.
2:45:22I will not start that now.
2:45:24>> [laughter]
2:45:25>> It belongs to you, it's fine with me.
2:45:27Your mind or the content of your mind
2:45:29belongs to you, fine with me.
2:45:31But what belongs to you is not you. The
2:45:34moment I say my body, that means there
2:45:37is me and my body separately, isn't it?
2:45:40My cup,
2:45:41my body, my hand, my leg.
2:45:45Yes or no?
2:45:46>> Yes.
2:45:48>> So beyond this, there is you, which is
2:45:50not coming to experience.
2:45:52So you want to explore that after you
2:45:55lose the body?
2:45:57After you lose the body, you would have
2:45:59lost all your faculties. How the hell
2:46:01will you explore that?
2:46:03This is the time, isn't it?
2:46:05>> Mhm.
2:46:06That makes sense.
2:46:09>> Right now, I asked you a simple
2:46:11question. If you close your eyes, are
2:46:12you still there? See, you're there.
2:46:15Eyes closed, you can't see the world,
2:46:17but you're still there, isn't it?
2:46:19>> Yes.
2:46:20>> So if you're still there, should you not
2:46:22look at
2:46:23what is this relationship between you
2:46:25and your body that's made you feel like
2:46:27this? See, if you really love somebody,
2:46:31you feel like they're part of you.
2:46:34Wonderful.
2:46:36But you know they're not you.
2:46:39That is also wonderful.
2:46:41With your body, you don't know that.
2:46:43That is the problem.
2:46:47>> So what do you consider you?
2:46:52>> What do you mean what do I consider?
2:46:53>> I mean, what do you consider to be you?
2:46:56If your experiences are not you,
2:46:59what is you? What What are you comprised
2:47:02of?
2:47:04>> I just wrote a poem, too.
2:47:06>> You did?
2:47:07>> See,
2:47:08whatever we accumulate
2:47:11can only be ours.
2:47:13Can't be us.
2:47:16At certain moments of intimacy, we may
2:47:18feel feel somebody is me.
2:47:22But, if you treat them too much like
2:47:24yourself,
2:47:25you will lose them.
2:47:29Yes.
2:47:29>> Mhm.
2:47:30>> This also same.
2:47:33If you treat it with little distance,
2:47:35you can manage it and use it the way you
2:47:37want.
2:47:39There's a little distance between you
2:47:40and your body, you can use it the way
2:47:42you want. You can use your mind the way
2:47:43you want. Right now, it's using you up.
2:47:46When I say it's using you up,
2:47:48what is the life that people are having?
2:47:52The needs of their body and their mind
2:47:55are occupying their entire life. Yes or
2:47:57no?
2:47:58>> Yes.
2:48:00>> Physical needs of food, sexuality,
2:48:02sleep, comfort,
2:48:05psychological things of emotion, this,
2:48:07that, whatever. Isn't that occupying
2:48:10their entire life?
2:48:11>> Yes.
2:48:12>> Tell me, your body and your mind should
2:48:14be serving you, or you should spend your
2:48:16entire lifetime serving them?
2:48:20>> I'd rather it serve me.
2:48:21>> They should serve you?
2:48:24Well, you've been in the forces where
2:48:27they have If you don't get it, they will
2:48:29beat you into the place where your body
2:48:31should serve you, not you serve the
2:48:32body.
2:48:35You're hungry, you don't eat, you're
2:48:36thirsty, you don't drink, you need this,
2:48:38you don't do this, you don't even bloody
2:48:39pee. All right?
2:48:42When you have to do something, you do.
2:48:43>> Mhm. We are also like that. That's why I
2:48:46told you
2:48:47if I sit here 12 hours,
2:48:50I will conduct a session like that only.
2:48:52No water, no going to the restroom, no
2:48:54nothing.
2:48:56Because
2:48:57we don't want to serve the body. We want
2:49:00to take care of the body.
2:49:02But we are not here to serve the body or
2:49:04the mind. These two things must serve me
2:49:07in my intention of what I want to do
2:49:09with my life. Isn't it? Yes.
2:49:11If that needs to happen, you need a
2:49:13little distance. So, you ask me, "What
2:49:16is the first step?" Well,
2:49:18people can start with something not for
2:49:21you. For you, I would start say you must
2:49:23start with a little bigger step called
2:49:24inner engineering. But for the people
2:49:28who are just watching for the first
2:49:29time,
2:49:30they can start with what is called as
2:49:31Miracle of Mind. It's a free app
2:49:34available on the App Store.
2:49:37It costs a lot of money to service this.
2:49:40But we are offering it free because I
2:49:42see if we don't take steps now,
2:49:48mental health is going to be in pandemic
2:49:51proportions.
2:49:54Already,
2:49:55already they are saying the stats are
2:49:57showing
2:49:59one in three teenage girls in America
2:50:02have gone through
2:50:04at least a few episodes of depression
2:50:07and medication. One in three, 33%.
2:50:11In my experience of teenage girls when
2:50:14we were of that age is they're giggly
2:50:16and bubbly for no reason.
2:50:19They're not depressed. You can't depress
2:50:21them.
2:50:23That's how they used to be. Now they're
2:50:25getting depressed.
2:50:27Whatever the reasons, there are so many
2:50:29reasons. I don't want to go into the
2:50:30science of it. It's a complex process.
2:50:32But the most important thing is we must
2:50:36give them something that they won't get
2:50:38into it.
2:50:39I was speaking to the what's the Surgeon
2:50:42General of United States.
2:50:44He tells me
2:50:46one in two Americans are feeling lonely.
2:50:4950% If you and me are sitting here, one
2:50:52of us is lonely, what the hell is
2:50:54happening with the other guy?
2:50:58Loneliness is the incubation period for
2:51:00psychological elements. We must
2:51:02understand this.
2:51:04The moment you're sitting with people
2:51:07and you're feeling lonely,
2:51:09this means you're manufacturing a
2:51:11psychological element. It's going to
2:51:12come.
2:51:13How soon? Depends on the situations, how
2:51:16supportive they are or how against they
2:51:18are, you know, there's so many aspects
2:51:20to it. But
2:51:22the moment loneliness enters your life,
2:51:26you are walking towards it.
2:51:30You can avoid it with friendships and
2:51:32going out with friends, drinking, being
2:51:34together, you're only postponing it.
2:51:37It's coming.
2:51:39And that's growing at a pace where WHO
2:51:42says by 2035,
2:51:45it could be a major problem. They're
2:51:47saying by 2045,
2:51:51it is going to be extremely difficult to
2:51:53live on this planet well because both
2:51:56physical and psychological problems will
2:51:59be so high.
2:52:01Today,
2:52:03America's health care
2:52:05is crossing 5.25 trillion dollars. It's
2:52:09larger than India's economy
2:52:11for 330 million people.
2:52:15That doesn't speak well.
2:52:20And when I see the stats of suicides of
2:52:23veterans, people who served the country,
2:52:25huh?
2:52:26People who risked their life,
2:52:28held something above their own life at
2:52:30least for those that period.
2:52:33See, a man who holds a man or a woman
2:52:35who holds something above their life,
2:52:39something else above their own life, I
2:52:42always bow down to them because there is
2:52:44a that is a quality
2:52:46that
2:52:48can change things, you know.
2:52:50In anything.
2:52:52If somebody holds something above their
2:52:53own life,
2:52:55that is a potential man. Most of the
2:52:57time misguided, he may become a
2:52:58terrorist or he may become whatever, an
2:53:01unnecessary adventure of war, whatever.
2:53:04But fundamentally a human being who
2:53:07holds something above my own life,
2:53:10there is a potential there, which is an
2:53:13incredible potential.
2:53:15Will we harness it in the right
2:53:16direction or not is
2:53:18subject to realities.
2:53:21>> What do you think about I mean since
2:53:23we're moving into maybe you brought up
2:53:25war.
2:53:26>> I'm sorry.
2:53:26>> Since we brought up war,
2:53:29what do you think the differences with
2:53:33killing in war versus killing for
2:53:35revenge?
2:53:37Or is there a difference?
2:53:39>> Karma is not by action.
2:53:41Karma
2:53:42is by volition.
2:53:45See, let us say someone is sitting here.
2:53:51Who uh
2:53:55is sitting here and every day thinking I
2:53:57want to kill my neighbor, I want to kill
2:53:58my neighbor, I want to somehow plan,
2:54:01poison him, do this, do that, but never
2:54:03does it.
2:54:05That's a very serious karma because
2:54:08you are doing it a thousand times in
2:54:10your mind.
2:54:11Another
2:54:13plans out a murder and kills the
2:54:15neighbor.
2:54:16That is a little lesser karma.
2:54:20Another
2:54:21goes there as a friend, gets into an
2:54:24argument, and kills him
2:54:26in the spur of the moment. Even the law
2:54:29treats it separate differently, right?
2:54:31At the spur of the moment you did
2:54:33something or you did it in a planned
2:54:35way. There is a difference.
2:54:37So, in terms of what impact and effect
2:54:40it has within your system,
2:54:43the first one that I mentioned, you
2:54:45never committed the murder, but you did
2:54:47it in your mind a thousand times.
2:54:49That is a far deeper karma that affects
2:54:52your system much much more. It poisons
2:54:54you much much more.
2:54:57You plan and did it, that is a secondary
2:54:59level.
2:55:00But in a spur of the moment you did it,
2:55:02that's another level.
2:55:05So, it is not in the action, it is in
2:55:07the intention or the volition with which
2:55:09you approach life.
2:55:11So, that is something you can fix.
2:55:14We may not be able to fix our actions
2:55:17because
2:55:18at certain moments
2:55:20life may demand different types of
2:55:22actions.
2:55:24Action has to be always relevant, has to
2:55:27be always relevant to the situation in
2:55:29which we exist.
2:55:32You can't
2:55:33because we're talking about battle and
2:55:35war, you can't go to battle and say,
2:55:37"I'm a peaceful person. I will not
2:55:38shoot."
2:55:40Can't do that.
2:55:42But will you shoot
2:55:45because there is something to be done
2:55:48which is in the larger interest or will
2:55:50you shoot because you have pleasure in
2:55:52shooting people or are you shooting
2:55:54because you have such anger and hatred
2:55:56against that person whom you don't even
2:55:58know most of the time?
2:56:01This volition will determine. So, this
2:56:04volition you can change. Every soldier
2:56:06can change this if at all if it's
2:56:07necessary. I will do what is needed, but
2:56:10it's not for my pleasure. It's not for
2:56:13making that person suffer. It's not
2:56:15because I think his life is less
2:56:16valuable than mine.
2:56:18His life is as much valuable to him as
2:56:20it's mine is my to me, isn't it? Mhm.
2:56:23Isn't it true?
2:56:24>> Yes, it's true.
2:56:25>> Whoever he is.
2:56:27So, always right from ancient times, we
2:56:30always had that regard and respect
2:56:32soldiers maintained that regard and
2:56:35respect. Unfortunately, in recent times
2:56:37some people are not doing that.
2:56:39Otherwise,
2:56:40an enemy who fought well and died, you
2:56:43respect him like your brother.
2:56:45Because
2:56:46he is also trying to protect something
2:56:48that he's identified with.
2:56:50Unfortunately, we met the wrong time.
2:56:52Isn't it?
2:56:53>> I would definitely agree with that.
2:56:57>> That's a real soldier.
2:56:58>> It's two people that are doing
2:57:02what's needed. It's two people that are
2:57:03sacri- potentially sacrificing their
2:57:05life for what they believe in.
2:57:09Uh who does that?
2:57:10>> what's needed in the given moment.
2:57:13It's not a question of right and wrong
2:57:14cuz all the whole scenery is not decided
2:57:17by them.
2:57:20They're not the ones who decide there
2:57:21should be a war or no war.
2:57:24But they can simply exercise their duty
2:57:27or take pleasure in killing another man
2:57:31or do it with great anger and hatred
2:57:34thinking he's a evil person.
2:57:37No.
2:57:39His life is as precious to him as my
2:57:41life is.
2:57:43But unfortunately,
2:57:45if I don't take his, he will take mine.
2:57:48That's all the choice is there in that
2:57:50given moment.
2:57:52So, you fix the volition.
2:57:54Action you cannot fix.
2:57:56Not just in battle, even in day-to-day
2:57:58life you cannot fix. In day-to-day life,
2:58:00it may not be about taking somebody's
2:58:02life, but in so many ways you can't fix,
2:58:05isn't it?
2:58:06But your volition and your intention you
2:58:08can fix.
2:58:10This is why the identity of having a
2:58:13larger identity, a global, if not a
2:58:16cosmic, at least a global identity if we
2:58:18have,
2:58:20we will do only to the extent it's
2:58:22necessary. We will never do excess.
2:58:25That's all That's all we can do as human
2:58:26beings.
2:58:28That we did not do excess.
2:58:31We did whatever we did only to the
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3:00:02So, we got a quick Polymarket question.
3:00:04So, if you don't mind, I'm going to ask
3:00:05this real quick here.
3:00:07Polymarket gives a 33% chance the FDA
3:00:11approves a psychedelic for medical use
3:00:13this year. Trump just signed an
3:00:15executive order to fast-track it. The
3:00:17government is moving towards these
3:00:19substances for PTSD and depression.
3:00:22You've said they're unnecessary. How do
3:00:25you respond to that momentum?
3:00:27>> So, what is trauma?
3:00:30We We already touched it in a different
3:00:32way.
3:00:33But essentially, trauma means
3:00:37something is happening outside.
3:00:41Maybe the situation is not something
3:00:43that I would like to be in.
3:00:45But it's happening. It could be a civil
3:00:47situation or a
3:00:49in the forces, it could be.
3:00:52It could be within the family.
3:00:54Not always physical violence.
3:00:56It could be emotional. It could be
3:00:58something else. Something is happening
3:01:01that you don't like. See, why do we say
3:01:04there is a situation here that I don't
3:01:06like?
3:01:07>> [snorts]
3:01:08>> Because it's not as per my desire.
3:01:12Yes?
3:01:13>> Mhm.
3:01:13>> I desire the situation to be this way,
3:01:15but it's that way.
3:01:18So, I don't like it.
3:01:21So, what is desire, if you look at this?
3:01:25Desire is an aspiration to expand.
3:01:29Whoever you are, you're desiring for
3:01:31something more, isn't it?
3:01:35Yes.
3:01:36See,
3:01:38the nature of desire is like this. When
3:01:40you were a child,
3:01:42you thought if you get that lollipop,
3:01:44your life is complete.
3:01:48Then with lollipop in your mouth,
3:01:50then you thought after everyday lollipop
3:01:52in your mouth, it was not good enough.
3:01:54You wanted a bicycle.
3:01:57Then you really believed if I got that
3:01:59bicycle, I'll be on top of the world.
3:02:02And it did feel like that. You got on
3:02:03the bicycle and rode, it felt fantastic.
3:02:07Then bicycle got older, then you saw the
3:02:10neighborhood girl and you thought if
3:02:13she's there with me, be too fantastic.
3:02:15That happened, that happened, this
3:02:17happened, that happened, so many things
3:02:18happened. All right.
3:02:20But still, you see, there is something
3:02:23more.
3:02:25Doesn't matter who you are.
3:02:27Still there is another desire.
3:02:29So the very nature of the desire is such
3:02:32always there'll be one desire which is
3:02:34unfulfilled.
3:02:36At least one.
3:02:38Yes or no?
3:02:39Huh?
3:02:40>> Then what's that?
3:02:40>> That next one, whatever that is, for
3:02:42different people is different.
3:02:45So the object huh?
3:02:46>> It never ends.
3:02:48There's always something more.
3:02:51>> I don't want to make a conclusive
3:02:52statement like that. I'm saying the
3:02:54object of desire keeps changing.
3:02:58But the desiring process is the same
3:03:00thing.
3:03:01How you desired for the lollipop, how
3:03:04you desired for that neighborhood girl,
3:03:06how you desired for a career, how you
3:03:09desired for money, how you desired for
3:03:10wealth.
3:03:12Desire fundamentally is same, isn't it?
3:03:15>> Yes.
3:03:17>> Only the object of desire is changing,
3:03:20but the fundamental desiring is the same
3:03:23process. You want to be something more.
3:03:28Now that from lollipop you're slowly
3:03:30graduating to all this, why all this,
3:03:33Sean? I will make you the king of this
3:03:35planet.
3:03:37Will you be fulfilled?
3:03:39>> No.
3:03:40>> You want the moon, is it?
3:03:43>> I don't think anybody would be
3:03:44fulfilled.
3:03:45>> No, no, let's explore. We're not talking
3:03:48about you, we're exploring.
3:03:50>> Okay.
3:03:50>> If I give you the moon, will you be
3:03:51satisfied?
3:03:52>> No.
3:03:53>> No. Why not the whole solar system? I'll
3:03:55give you the whole solar system. You're
3:03:57the king of the solar system. Then
3:03:58you'll say, why not at at one galaxy?
3:04:01All right, we'll have one galaxy.
3:04:03Then you will say, "What about the other
3:04:05galaxies?"
3:04:07So, there is something within you which
3:04:10does not like boundaries.
3:04:13Unknowingly you're seeking yoga, I'm
3:04:15telling you.
3:04:17>> [laughter]
3:04:18>> You have There's something within you
3:04:20which doesn't like boundaries.
3:04:22But, desiring is a constipated
3:04:25expression of your consciousness.
3:04:29Something is aspiring. You know what's
3:04:31constipation?
3:04:32>> Mhm.
3:04:33>> It happens little by little. That's a
3:04:35problem.
3:04:37So, desiring is a constipated expression
3:04:41of the longing to expand limitlessly.
3:04:47If you want to expand limitlessly,
3:04:50can you do it physically?
3:04:52>> No.
3:04:54>> So, you got it, man.
3:04:55You're a spiritual guy.
3:04:58The moment you see that I want to expand
3:05:01limitlessly, physical is not the way to
3:05:03do it, you are on the spiritual path.
3:05:06That's what spirituality means.
3:05:08You realized the limitations of being
3:05:11physical.
3:05:12But, your desire is way beyond your
3:05:16physical self.
3:05:19You thinking it'll happen with property.
3:05:20You thinking it'll happen with a billion
3:05:22dollars. You thinking it'll happen with
3:05:24this and that. No, it doesn't happen.
3:05:27Look at the people who have it. It not
3:05:29happen to them. Isn't it?
3:05:31>> It has not happened to them.
3:05:32>> Yes.
3:05:34So, desiring as a phenomena
3:05:37is the expression of your boundless
3:05:39consciousness to find its original
3:05:42nature. It wants to go home.
3:05:45To that limitlessness.
3:05:47But, you are giving it a constipated
3:05:50expression slowly one by one.
3:05:52But, life is a very limited process. We
3:05:55are all mortal.
3:05:58Mortality is not because I'm talking
3:06:01about it. When we are born, we got a
3:06:03death sentence, isn't it?
3:06:06They don't tell us when.
3:06:08>> [laughter]
3:06:09>> It could be today, it could be tomorrow,
3:06:12it could be 100 years later, we don't
3:06:13know.
3:06:15Hello.
3:06:16>> Yeah.
3:06:16>> But death sentence is confirmed both for
3:06:18you and me.
3:06:19>> It's common.
3:06:20>> Confirmed or no?
3:06:22>> Say that again.
3:06:24>> Is death sentence confirmed both for you
3:06:26and me?
3:06:27>> Yes, it is.
3:06:28>> Only date and time you do not know.
3:06:31So, if you want to know the date and
3:06:32time of you your death, you know how
3:06:34much yoga you have to do.
3:06:38>> [laughter]
3:06:38>> This happened. There was a man called
3:06:41Sankaran Pillai.
3:06:43He went and met a few of his friends in
3:06:45the bar, they started drinking. After a
3:06:47few drinks, you know, usually men start
3:06:49bragging.
3:06:50Stories get taller and taller. This was
3:06:53a mystical day.
3:06:55Different Different days are dedicated
3:06:58to different subjects. When people get
3:07:00drunk, they'll talk about how they drove
3:07:02their car or rode their motorcycle, how
3:07:04they shot something, this this this. If
3:07:06they are hunters, they talk about
3:07:08shooting. If they're drivers, they talk
3:07:09about driving.
3:07:11This is a little mystical gang.
3:07:14They were talking about all the mystical
3:07:16stuff. Everybody was talking about how
3:07:18they saw the ghosts and this happened,
3:07:20that happened.
3:07:21They pulled out a ghost out of a bottle
3:07:24and a genie came out of this and stuff.
3:07:28This guy was just knocking off drinks.
3:07:31They said, "What? You don't have nothing
3:07:32to say?"
3:07:34He said, "Well,
3:07:36my uncle
3:07:38knew the exact time and date of his
3:07:40death."
3:07:42They said, "Really? Was he a mystic?
3:07:45Was it so,
3:07:47you know, profound that he knew exact
3:07:49time and date of his death? How did he
3:07:51know this?
3:07:53He knocked off one more drink and said,
3:07:55"Well, the judge told him."
3:08:01You didn't get it, man.
3:08:03>> [laughter]
3:08:08>> If you do certain actions, the judge
3:08:09will tell you exactly when and how you
3:08:11will die.
3:08:15That's not a good thing.
3:08:16>> [laughter]
3:08:18>> So, I'm saying
3:08:21trauma is because
3:08:25life is not going the way you're
3:08:27desiring.
3:08:29What you need to understand is desire is
3:08:31a phenomenon.
3:08:33What object we give
3:08:36is our choice.
3:08:37Whether you choose lollipop or a girl or
3:08:41a
3:08:42bunch of
3:08:42you know, a wad of money or this or that
3:08:45is our choice, isn't it?
3:08:48It is.
3:08:49Our choice doesn't really exist because
3:08:52most human beings are socially
3:08:54cultivated.
3:08:55Everybody is having lollipop, you also
3:08:57want to have lollipop, everybody is
3:08:59having money, you also want to have
3:09:01money, everybody is doing this, you also
3:09:02want to do that.
3:09:04So,
3:09:05to rise above the identities that you
3:09:08hold and look at life, what is it that
3:09:11matters to me?
3:09:14That intelligence is not being generally
3:09:16worked at.
3:09:18Our education systems, unfortunately,
3:09:20have not structured that way because if
3:09:23everybody looks at life intelligently,
3:09:26this may not be liked by you or by your
3:09:29community.
3:09:30If everybody starts looking at life
3:09:33intelligently, they may not serve an
3:09:35industry or a company or an army or
3:09:39something, they may start doing their
3:09:41own things.
3:09:43Which is what America is supposed to be.
3:09:46Which is what the human is supposed to
3:09:48be. That individual human beings should
3:09:50find a way
3:09:52to find the best possible expression for
3:09:55whatever aptitudes they have, isn't it?
3:09:57Yes.
3:09:59But,
3:10:01doesn't matter what aptitude you have,
3:10:03you have to go sit in the school and
3:10:05learn 4 + 4 is 8.
3:10:08Or chemistry, physics, mathematics,
3:10:11this, that for you which you may have
3:10:13aptitude, you may not have aptitude.
3:10:15Whether you like it or not, you have to
3:10:16go through that because they're trying
3:10:18to produce a product.
3:10:21So, that you serve in a factory or in
3:10:23the army or in this place or that place.
3:10:25They don't want you to be an individual.
3:10:28I am not trying to be an anarchist,
3:10:30but I'm saying
3:10:33societies were built for the sake of
3:10:35individual well-being.
3:10:39We built a family for individual
3:10:40well-being, isn't it so? Mhm.
3:10:43Yes, we will rise our above our
3:10:47individual requirements to serve the
3:10:48family or the community or the nation,
3:10:51that's a different matter.
3:10:53But,
3:10:54fundamentally,
3:10:56it is a well-being of life
3:10:59for which we build everything, isn't it?
3:11:01Yes.
3:11:03That we forget.
3:11:05We forget that that we are building all
3:11:08the systems for the well-being of
3:11:10individual life.
3:11:12But,
3:11:14systems This is literally getting caught
3:11:16up in the process.
3:11:18We still We built this building because
3:11:20we wanted to do something.
3:11:22But, we don't know how to open the door
3:11:24and get out of this damn building.
3:11:28Then, this is a prison, isn't it? Yes,
3:11:30it is.
3:11:32This is all that's happening right now
3:11:34because you don't like something.
3:11:37Why?
3:11:38Because it's not going according to the
3:11:40object of your desire.
3:11:43You could easily change the object
3:11:45according to your choice
3:11:47or according to the requirement of the
3:11:48situation.
3:11:50But that doesn't happen, so it creates
3:11:52unpleasantness. This unpleasantness we
3:11:54call it as trauma.
3:11:56At that moment it happened, but now it
3:11:58repeats itself.
3:12:00Well, you are talking about people who
3:12:02have been in extreme situations, all
3:12:04right? Cuz battle is the most extreme
3:12:07situation human beings can create.
3:12:09Famines and battles are the two most
3:12:12extreme situations human beings can
3:12:14create.
3:12:18Unfortunately, too many people are in
3:12:19both in the world today.
3:12:22With all this technology and stuff,
3:12:25with so much information and knowledge,
3:12:27we should have eliminated both, but both
3:12:29are very prevalent in the world, battles
3:12:32and famines.
3:12:34>> [snorts]
3:12:36>> So,
3:12:37an unpleasant experience happened, let's
3:12:39say.
3:12:40Something that we don't like is
3:12:42unpleasant.
3:12:43We don't like because we had a desire
3:12:46for this, but this is happening.
3:12:49Wrong thing is happening in our mind.
3:12:52Somebody else may be enjoying that
3:12:54situation, isn't it?
3:12:56This is true.
3:12:58So, trauma is because of the resistance
3:13:02that we have for something that we think
3:13:05we don't like. What we don't like is
3:13:08something other than what we desire is
3:13:11happening.
3:13:12But desire is essentially not about
3:13:15these objects that we desire or
3:13:17situations that we desire. Desire is a
3:13:20phenomena which wants to expand
3:13:22limitlessly. Even if you I give you one
3:13:25galaxy, it's not enough. I must tell you
3:13:26this.
3:13:27I was here in United States just before
3:13:30I started the Save Soil Journey. You
3:13:32know, I rode a motorcycle, a lone
3:13:34motorcycle from London to Southern
3:13:36India, 30,000 km in 100 days.
3:13:41>> Wow.
3:13:43>> [laughter]
3:13:43>> In 2022.
3:13:45I should have brought that book for you.
3:13:46I don't know if they have.
3:13:48Uh
3:13:51So, I'll send you that book. Just flip
3:13:53through that. This is people's
3:13:54experience.
3:13:56I just told my daughter,
3:13:58uh you know,
3:13:59so many people served me on the way.
3:14:02Just collect their experiences. What it
3:14:04is because it was so brisk.
3:14:07I'm riding 16 to 18 hours a day. In
3:14:10these 100 days, I did 691 events along
3:14:14the way.
3:14:14>> Wow.
3:14:15>> Apart from
3:14:15>> 691 events?
3:14:17>> Yes. On an average, nearly seven events
3:14:19per day. And riding.
3:14:22>> Wow.
3:14:23>> Even when I'm riding, I'm doing
3:14:25interviews as I'm riding. You will see
3:14:27for the first time ever in Indian
3:14:29national television, there's a man
3:14:31riding with a full-faced helmet, and
3:14:33he's talking and giving interviews for
3:14:34our long interviews on the national
3:14:36television. That's me.
3:14:38>> [laughter]
3:14:40>> So, I said, "Take their experiences and
3:14:43put it in a book because all of them
3:14:44served." Cuz in every country that I
3:14:46went, different groups of people,
3:14:48different groups of people. Before I go
3:14:50there, they're ready with the events and
3:14:51works.
3:14:53I said, "Collect the experiences."
3:14:56So, I said to her, "Within 1 year, let's
3:14:57do it for the first anniversary." It
3:14:59didn't happen. I said, "What the hell
3:15:01happened?" No, no, she's I'm collecting,
3:15:02collecting, she said. Said, "You lazy
3:15:04bum, what are you doing? 1 year over, 2
3:15:07years over." She didn't the do it. 3
3:15:10years, now fourth year, she published.
3:15:14Then I look at the book, it's 450 pages.
3:15:18I said, "What is this?"
3:15:20You don't know, there were 1,000 pages.
3:15:23I had to edit it down and bring it down
3:15:25to 450 pages.
3:15:27People sharing their experiences.
3:15:29>> [laughter]
3:15:31>> I thought it'll be some booklet. Just do
3:15:34it quickly.
3:15:35>> [laughter]
3:15:37>> When is that book about?
3:15:38>> Huh?
3:15:39>> When is the book out?
3:15:40>> The book just got out on March 21st for
3:15:43the fourth anniversary.
3:15:45>> Congratulations.
3:15:46>> [laughter]
3:15:47>> I'll send you that one. I don't think
3:15:49they have it here probably.
3:15:50>> Thank you.
3:15:52>> It's not a reading book. It's just
3:15:54people's experiences of these 100 days.
3:15:58So,
3:16:00when this whole process is happening,
3:16:03just before that I come to United
3:16:05States. We didn't do the campaign in US,
3:16:07but I started in Caribbean then went to
3:16:09uh
3:16:10London and from there I wrote on.
3:16:12But I was activating the media. I did
3:16:15some podcasts and this and that to bring
3:16:17interest in the subject cuz soil was an
3:16:20unknown thing at that time. Today it has
3:16:21become the mainstream of cop the cop
3:16:24meetings and everything in 4 years time.
3:16:28So, I was one morning I'm sitting here
3:16:32and I see one young man running around
3:16:34like his tail is on fire.
3:16:37I said, "Hey, what are you up to, man?"
3:16:39>> [laughter]
3:16:41>> He said, "Sadhguru, I just want to make
3:16:42$1 billion. I want to make $1 billion."
3:16:48I said, "What? Only $1 billion?
3:16:50Tomorrow you come, I'll give you $1
3:16:52billion."
3:16:53"Really? Sadhguru, you'll give me $1
3:16:55billion?" "Yeah, man. Come tomorrow,
3:16:57I'll give you $1 billion."
3:16:59Eight of his friends were sitting
3:17:00quietly.
3:17:03I said, "See these eight guys who are
3:17:04sitting quietly here? I'll give them all
3:17:06$10 billion each."
3:17:09"Oh, why why, Sadhguru? They get $10
3:17:11billion, I get $1 billion?" "You idiot,
3:17:13just now
3:17:15you said $1 billion is the ambition of
3:17:17your life.
3:17:19The moment they get $10 billion, you
3:17:20become miserable?
3:17:22Neither they got nor you got, just the
3:17:24idea."
3:17:25>> [laughter]
3:17:28>> This is the nature of the desire.
3:17:30Your objective desire is just decided by
3:17:34the times and the societies in which you
3:17:36exist, isn't it?
3:17:39Yes.
3:17:41If you were here 200 years ago, you
3:17:43wouldn't be thinking all this billion
3:17:45nonsense.
3:17:48You would be thinking just how to cross
3:17:49Mississippi, maybe.
3:17:51>> [laughter]
3:17:52>> Do you have desires?
3:17:53>> Huh?
3:17:54>> Do you have desires?
3:17:55>> A lot of them.
3:17:57>> Are you able to control them?
3:17:59>> I create them. Why do I control them?
3:18:02>> Well, that's what I meant.
3:18:04>> I create them.
3:18:06Your desires are anyway created by you.
3:18:09Either consciously or unconsciously is
3:18:11only question, isn't it?
3:18:16Yes or no?
3:18:17Yes.
3:18:19>> I guess what I'm asking is you I think a
3:18:21lot of people let desires run their
3:18:23life.
3:18:23>> That's what I'm saying. The question is
3:18:26do you drive your desires or desires
3:18:28drive you?
3:18:29Nothing drives me.
3:18:32I drive every aspect of my life to the
3:18:34extent that I want.
3:18:37Nothing drives me.
3:18:39I'm not a waymo.
3:18:43>> [laughter]
3:18:43>> You know what's a waymo?
3:18:44>> Yeah, I know what a waymo is.
3:18:47>> I'm not a waymo driven by something.
3:18:50I drive.
3:18:54And I think I do.
3:18:55>> Drive well.
3:18:57>> [laughter]
3:18:59>> There's our way.
3:19:01>> So, about trauma, which is important and
3:19:03this post-traumatic thing.
3:19:07Which unfortunately such a serious thing
3:19:09in the United States.
3:19:11The numbers I saw
3:19:14Man, it's not good.
3:19:16Not good to treat
3:19:18people who serve the country like this.
3:19:21Well, when I say treat, is the country
3:19:23treating them badly? I don't think so.
3:19:28Some $230 billion budget just for that
3:19:31one problem.
3:19:34Investing money
3:19:36is fine. It'll give some comfort.
3:19:39Not going to solve the problem.
3:19:42One important thing, which I don't think
3:19:45will be taken, but I will make the
3:19:46suggestion anyway, is
3:19:49don't try to
3:19:51send people into those situations and
3:19:54then try to solve it.
3:19:56Before they go,
3:19:58why don't we spend a certain amount of
3:20:01time? I know you're training to be
3:20:02strong, you're trying to train training
3:20:04to be tough, to shoot straight, and this
3:20:06and that. All those things are important
3:20:08for the soldier. Fine I'm fine with
3:20:10that.
3:20:11Along with that, how to keep myself, how
3:20:14to be
3:20:16This must be taught.
3:20:19We have done thousands of Indian Army
3:20:22personnel. We put them through that. We
3:20:24have trained over 750
3:20:27I'm sure I would have that.
3:20:29I'm not sure about the number whether
3:20:30750 or 7,500. I'm not sure about that.
3:20:34That many trainers we have trained for
3:20:36the Indian Army.
3:20:36>> Wow.
3:20:39>> They train. I don't know how many people
3:20:40they have trained in internally.
3:20:43They won't give us that information.
3:20:45But we have trained so many tra-
3:20:46trainers.
3:20:48Please, you must do this. What is the
3:20:50point of breaking up men who serve the
3:20:53country?
3:20:55They're saying on an average suicide
3:20:58could be suicides of this particular
3:21:01problem could be over 40 people per day.
3:21:06That's too.
3:21:08That's horrendous.
3:21:09I can't accept that number.
3:21:12It's not good.
3:21:14For any group of people, particularly
3:21:16those
3:21:17who put their life in harm's way, all
3:21:19right?
3:21:21>> I don't think they want to solve it.
3:21:23>> Huh?
3:21:24>> I don't think they want to solve it.
3:21:28>> Why would you say that?
3:21:30>> Because the issue is as old as time
3:21:32itself.
3:21:34And we're still saddled with the same
3:21:39>> Maybe they don't understand the problem.
3:21:43Maybe they think this is a natural
3:21:44consequence.
3:21:49Maybe they don't want to address it
3:21:50because then you will have to address
3:21:52whether this war itself was needed or
3:21:54not.
3:21:57All those issues are there.
3:22:07>> I think it's up to a
3:22:09us, the veterans, to solve it.
3:22:12You know.
3:22:12>> No, I'm saying
3:22:15the veterans could also influence to the
3:22:17individual
3:22:18>> to solve it.
3:22:20No, but I'm not saying
3:22:21>> That we can always do.
3:22:23But I am saying
3:22:26the young people who are going into the
3:22:27services
3:22:29if we equip them with something, we
3:22:31don't have to create broken people.
3:22:35>> I'm 100% with you on that.
3:22:38>> If people are willing, we are willing to
3:22:40do that.
3:22:41As a part of this, I told them to offer
3:22:43an engineering program for all veterans
3:22:45free of cost.
3:22:47>> Well Say that again.
3:22:49>> For all the veterans who served the
3:22:51nation here, we have done that in India
3:22:54also for all the forces
3:22:56that
3:22:57the inner engineering program, which
3:22:59normally costs $175
3:23:01for common people
3:23:03we'll offer it free.
3:23:06>> Wow.
3:23:07>> It's online. They can do it in their
3:23:09homes.
3:23:11And it'll do wonders.
3:23:13>> How do they find that?
3:23:15>> Hm? Where do they find this?
3:23:18Oh, in engineering
3:23:19I'm sorry, they have some I asked them
3:23:22to give you the link.
3:23:23>> Okay, we'll put it in the description.
3:23:24>> veteran/something.
3:23:26I'm sorry, I don't know what's the
3:23:28thing.
3:23:29>> It'll be in the description.
3:23:31>> We will offer that.
3:23:33They should make use of it. See, the
3:23:34thing is
3:23:36I'm not thinking only soldiers should be
3:23:40free of this.
3:23:41See, our programs are mandatory in all
3:23:44the southern Indian prisons.
3:23:47I personally went there and taught
3:23:49programs at one time in the prisons.
3:23:51>> Wow.
3:23:52>> Now teachers have been teaching for over
3:23:5425, 26 years.
3:23:57They become mandatory and the whole
3:23:59prison atmosphere has changed.
3:24:01Here also I did those programs in
3:24:03Pennsylvania high security prison and
3:24:06Philadelphia.
3:24:07And we tried in Tennessee also, but
3:24:11they were fantastic the programs
3:24:13initially. I personally went there
3:24:15myself.
3:24:19I must tell you the experience.
3:24:22In Philadelphia
3:24:25life sentence is life sentence.
3:24:28That is there's no remission.
3:24:31And there's no death sentence.
3:24:34See, this is a jinx, you know?
3:24:37If you commit a crime, whatever it is,
3:24:40people commit crimes for various
3:24:41reasons, not always because of some evil
3:24:44stuff.
3:24:45For a variety of reasons it happens.
3:24:48Unfortunately
3:24:50uh it happens. I must tell you about
3:24:52this particular guy.
3:24:56He uh
3:24:58when he's just uh
3:25:00just over 18
3:25:02finished his high school just over 18.
3:25:06And uh he thought some fancy thing. He
3:25:09thought he would do some
3:25:11shooting and rob a store and he killed
3:25:12two three people, I think.
3:25:15Two people, I think.
3:25:18So, he got life sentence.
3:25:23At the age of 18,
3:25:25he came there. I met him and he's 56.
3:25:32Strong, fit guy.
3:25:36They initially didn't want to have him
3:25:38because the prison guards felt we can't
3:25:40manage him in the program.
3:25:43Inside the classroom, one guard is
3:25:45standing with a rifle.
3:25:47I said, "Please, don't stand inside. If
3:25:49it's a must, you stand outside." He
3:25:51says, "No, no, no, he's very dangerous."
3:25:54It literally they're waiting one moment
3:25:56if he does one mistake, they'll shoot
3:25:57that guy.
3:25:59I said, "Please, don't do this."
3:26:02But they said, "No."
3:26:05This guy,
3:26:06because he's he's become so violent,
3:26:11because now he kills another 10 people,
3:26:15there's no death sentence.
3:26:19Only thing is more life sentences.
3:26:22You know, in America, I hear somebody
3:26:24sentenced for 800 years.
3:26:27That means what? You'll make sure he
3:26:28lives for 800 years?
3:26:29Anyway, he'll die at a normal length of
3:26:31time, isn't it? Mhm.
3:26:34So, he's violent because there's no
3:26:36consequence. What will you do to me?
3:26:40At the most, you'll put me in the
3:26:41solitary. So, most of the time he's
3:26:43solitary all the time, I think.
3:26:45It's a 5 by 8 kind of
3:26:49cell.
3:26:51So, on the fourth or fifth day after he
3:26:55started the program, he broke down and
3:26:57cried.
3:26:59Big guy.
3:27:01Everybody, all the other prisoners,
3:27:03convicts, terrified.
3:27:05Cuz this guy is crying.
3:27:07Everybody's terrified of him. They give
3:27:09him separate time in the yard.
3:27:12Because he'll bash somebody up.
3:27:15Even in the yard time when he's they
3:27:17walk and exercise, separate time for
3:27:19him.
3:27:22And this guy is crying like a baby.
3:27:26Then he wanted to speak. I said, "Please
3:27:28speak."
3:27:29He said,
3:27:31"In the last 30 years,
3:27:34I have not been able to sit.
3:27:37When I'm exhausted, I fall asleep.
3:27:39But I can't sit in one place.
3:27:42And last 4 days I'm sitting here for 3
3:27:44hours a day with you.
3:27:46This is the greatest miracle for me."
3:27:49That he's sitting in one place.
3:27:52Otherwise, he just walks up and down
3:27:54this 8 ft.
3:27:55Up and down, up and down, up and down.
3:27:57When he's exhausted, he'll fall asleep.
3:28:03And uh you know, like this in India,
3:28:07see, the prison is a very organized
3:28:09place. In the sense, you wake up on
3:28:12time, somebody opens the doors for you,
3:28:14somebody closes it for you.
3:28:16Food comes bang on time. Everything on
3:28:19time.
3:28:22Only thing is,
3:28:25if you enter the prison, I have never
3:28:27been into a prison and come out without
3:28:30tears in my eyes.
3:28:31Because there is pain in the air.
3:28:36Just the idea
3:28:38somebody is locking you up.
3:28:41Because in human consciousness, the most
3:28:44important thing is freedom. People may
3:28:46not articulate it like that.
3:28:48They themselves may lock themselves in
3:28:50the room, but it's okay. But if somebody
3:28:53locks it from outside, suddenly it
3:28:55becomes another level of pain.
3:28:58So, in India
3:29:00you they wrote over 3 to 4,000 poems.
3:29:05Hardly educated people. Most of them are
3:29:07like, you know, never been to school or
3:29:09some basic school.
3:29:11One guy
3:29:13wrote a poem.
3:29:15He killed three people in the
3:29:17courthouse.
3:29:20So, in India that is considered rarest
3:29:22of the rare.
3:29:23In India, there is death sentence, but
3:29:25in the rarest of the rare cases only.
3:29:29So, who defines that rarest? Of course,
3:29:31the judge and then, you know, there's
3:29:32appeal and appeal and appeal right up to
3:29:34the president.
3:29:35But, if nothing usually they are on
3:29:37death sentence, but they stay there for
3:29:3915, 20 years. If they have a good
3:29:41lawyer, up to 25 years.
3:29:45So, this guy has been on death sentence
3:29:47for more than 8 or 9 years.
3:29:50And
3:29:52I I did a 10-day event for them inside
3:29:54the prison.
3:29:58>> [laughter]
3:29:59>> You know, I I just
3:30:02It's so painful and so touching.
3:30:06So, all these people, one thing is the
3:30:07prison psychologist tailor told me
3:30:11that in the last 136 years of the
3:30:13prison's history
3:30:16not a single day there's been a day that
3:30:19somebody was not in the solitary.
3:30:22The solitary was created by the British
3:30:24when they were there.
3:30:26That is, it's a 5 by 5 box steel box.
3:30:305 by 5 by 5 cube.
3:30:33With a small hole like this and rest of
3:30:34it is all steel metal. And it's outside.
3:30:39In the sun, it gets hot.
3:30:42That's where they are.
3:30:44Solitary.
3:30:45Every day somebody gets into it because
3:30:47they'll do some mischief, something.
3:30:51After the program started, not a single
3:30:54person went into the solitary for months
3:30:56on end.
3:30:57>> Wow.
3:31:00>> And the prison psychologist said, "The
3:31:02biggest problem is they don't they
3:31:03cannot sleep. In the nights they're
3:31:05howling like wolves."
3:31:08Howling stopped. They started sleeping
3:31:10well.
3:31:12And this guy wrote a poem. He was on
3:31:13death row. Now he's been executed.
3:31:16Uh he was on death row for 9 years.
3:31:20And still they're appealing and
3:31:22appealing into one more court, one more
3:31:23court appeal.
3:31:26So he wrote a poem. He said, "Every day
3:31:28when the cell door closes in the
3:31:29evening, I thought this is my grave.
3:31:33But now when the cell door closes, I
3:31:35close my eyes and this has become my
3:31:38Bodhi tree." You know what's a Bodhi
3:31:39tree?
3:31:41Where Buddha got Buddha got enlightened
3:31:43under the tree.
3:31:45Gautama the Buddha
3:31:46sat under the tree and he got
3:31:48enlightened. He's saying when the cell
3:31:49door closes, it becomes my Bodhi tree. I
3:31:51close my eyes and meditate now.
3:31:56I'm saying
3:31:58I'm talking about extreme situations.
3:32:01Prison is an extreme situation in so
3:32:03many ways.
3:32:04They they may be safer than in the war
3:32:07zone.
3:32:08>> [clears throat]
3:32:08>> But this sense of I'm not free
3:32:11is the deepest suffering in a human
3:32:14being. People cannot understand this
3:32:16unless they see what happens there.
3:32:20I was in uh Kentucky uh prison.
3:32:24And I was doing this program on 6th, 7th
3:32:27day, one black lady comes to me with one
3:32:31young boy, maybe 10-year-old boy.
3:32:34And she holds my hand and says, "Guru,
3:32:36Guru, I want to talk to you. My husband,
3:32:40you know, he thinks you're Jesus." I
3:32:42said, "Please don't say this. I don't
3:32:43want to be crucified or anything. Please
3:32:45don't say such things.
3:32:47I'm just an ordinary guy coming to help
3:32:49them.
3:32:52Then she said, "You know, my husband,
3:32:55he has the heart of gold.
3:32:58But,
3:33:00in a fit of anger, he killed somebody.
3:33:04Then he came out on, you know, some
3:33:05parole. He was outside.
3:33:07Somebody said something, he killed
3:33:09another guy.
3:33:11I'm saying people get into these things
3:33:13not necessarily
3:33:15in a planned way.
3:33:17Just one moment.
3:33:20Something that they don't like.
3:33:22This is the way they react.
3:33:24If they had done this
3:33:27100 years ago, 200 years ago, or 1,000
3:33:29years ago, it would be quite normal in
3:33:32the tribe.
3:33:33Somebody irritated you, you kill that
3:33:35guy. People would say, "Oh, it's a good
3:33:37thing. That guy irritated you, you
3:33:38killed him."
3:33:40But today he's locked up in the prison,
3:33:42I'm saying.
3:33:43>> Mhm.
3:33:43>> So, I'm saying the consequences that we
3:33:45face are not always
3:33:48the same, depending upon the times in
3:33:50which we exist. Different things happen
3:33:53to us.
3:33:54How to process all this? Because we're
3:33:55still the same human beings, isn't it?
3:33:58>> Yeah.
3:33:59>> Whether you are here 1,000 years ago, or
3:34:01today, or later,
3:34:03we're still the same in your human
3:34:04beings. So, we have to look for what is
3:34:07the constant.
3:34:09See, the content of your mind
3:34:11is not what it would be if you were
3:34:141,000 years ago.
3:34:17Isn't it?
3:34:18>> Definitely would not be the same.
3:34:19>> But the content of the body would be
3:34:21largely same.
3:34:23Maybe the fitness of the body would be
3:34:25in a different level, but general
3:34:27content of the body is same. Chemistry
3:34:29is same. Energies are same.
3:34:32That's what we should manage. But we are
3:34:34always trying to manage this surface,
3:34:37which is just an impression of the times
3:34:39upon us.
3:34:41The human being needs to be taken care
3:34:44of, but we are trying to prune this on
3:34:46the surface.
3:34:49So, this is what inner engineering is
3:34:51about. You change the very energies. You
3:34:53change the very chemistry of who you
3:34:55are. If you create a blissful chemistry,
3:34:58after that, what is trauma? There's no
3:35:01such thing.
3:35:07It will feel insulting for people who
3:35:10have been through that, but I'm saying
3:35:12this with utmost respect for whatever
3:35:14they go through.
3:35:15But, the most important and empowering
3:35:17thing is that you determine the nature
3:35:20of your experience.
3:35:22The world determines the nature of your
3:35:24experience,
3:35:26that means you will be unfit for the
3:35:28world in some way, isn't it?
3:35:30>> It is.
3:35:31>> The The choice is this,
3:35:34shall I fix the whole world the way you
3:35:37want,
3:35:38or will you fix yourself in such a way
3:35:40that you're fit to live in this world?
3:35:45>> That is a damn good way to look at
3:35:47things.
3:35:48>> Hm?
3:35:49>> That is a damn good way to look at
3:35:50things.
3:35:52Thank you.
3:35:53>> We must fix the chemistry. We must fix
3:35:54the energy.
3:35:56Thoughts and emotions are happening
3:35:58according to our times, isn't it?
3:36:02That's surface.
3:36:06If your chemistry is blissful, your
3:36:07energy energies are stable,
3:36:10then what is it?
3:36:12Outside world, you'll handle it to the
3:36:14best of your ability.
3:36:16Can somebody do the best in the world?
3:36:19There's no such thing.
3:36:22Whichever way we do it, we can do it
3:36:24better, isn't it?
3:36:27Hello?
3:36:27>> Yes.
3:36:28>> But, I must do my best.
3:36:32If what I cannot do does not happen in
3:36:35my life, it's all right.
3:36:38But, if what I can do, if I do not do,
3:36:40I'm a disaster, isn't it?
3:36:42>> Yes.
3:36:43>> This is all it is. In our lives, if we
3:36:46do not do what we cannot do, that's not
3:36:48a problem. In our lives, if we do not do
3:36:50what we can do, we are a disastrous
3:36:52life. I want to make sure nobody is that
3:36:55disaster. Everybody can do this much.
3:36:58That your experience of life you
3:37:01determine.
3:37:02Outside, we will naturally do our best
3:37:05if you're in a good state.
3:37:08We'll do our best. Our best may not be
3:37:11the best. It's okay.
3:37:13We're doing our best.
3:37:19>> I love that.
3:37:22One day we must golf, then I'll show you
3:37:24what's my best to you.
3:37:26>> [laughter]
3:37:26>> All right, that sounds good.
3:37:30Well, I think that might be the perfect
3:37:32place to end this.
3:37:32>> Huh?
3:37:33>> I think that might be the perfect place
3:37:35to end this.
3:37:35>> Yes, we're building a golf course in
3:37:37Tennessee at that.
3:37:38>> You're building a golf course?
3:37:40>> Yes, it'll be playable by October, but
3:37:43we will open it sometime early spring,
3:37:45next spring.
3:37:46>> Well, I will come golf there.
3:37:48>> You have to.
3:37:48>> Is it in McMinnville?
3:37:50>> Huh?
3:37:50>> Is it in McMinnville?
3:37:51>> Uh from McMinnville we are 18 miles, I
3:37:53think.
3:37:53>> Okay.
3:37:55So close.
3:37:56>> It's a
3:37:57It's a 71 72, that means 7,172
3:38:02yards.
3:38:03>> Wow.
3:38:04>> It's a long course.
3:38:05>> Beautiful course.
3:38:07Well,
3:38:08shall we go smack some balls?
3:38:10>> Huh?
3:38:10>> Shall we go smack some balls?
3:38:12>> Yeah.
3:38:12>> All right.
3:38:13>> you don't have any clubs?
3:38:15>> I think we got some.
3:38:16>> Is it?
3:38:17>> [laughter]
3:38:17>> We'll check.
3:38:19>> We can if you're done with your
3:38:20questions.
3:38:21>> Well,
3:38:22Sadhguru,
3:38:23>> Let me see if you
3:38:26something of
3:38:32Oh, there's a poem on
3:38:33You want to?
3:38:34>> Yeah, let's hear it.
3:38:39>> Life and death
3:38:41live in me at once.
3:38:44Never held one above the other.
3:38:47When one stands far,
3:38:49life I offer.
3:38:51In closeness, only death I deal.
3:38:55In death of the limited, will the
3:38:57deathless be. In death of the limited,
3:39:00will the deathless be. How to tell the
3:39:02fools of my taintless evil?
3:39:07>> I get
3:39:09>> [laughter]
3:39:10>> Because if you do not
3:39:12in some way destroy the limited nature
3:39:14of what you have constructed,
3:39:17the larger life will never come into
3:39:19you.
3:39:21Creation
3:39:23and the source of creation is the most
3:39:25spectacular thing.
3:39:27It's way beyond anything we can imagine.
3:39:31I'm saying a simple thing. If you take a
3:39:33leaf,
3:39:34how it is made,
3:39:36you can It's beyond your imagination.
3:39:40And it's a very source of life.
3:39:41Photosynthesis is the basis of all life
3:39:44on the planet.
3:39:45A simple life is doing that all the
3:39:47time, isn't it? A simple leaf is doing
3:39:49that all the time.
3:39:51But we think we are brilliant.
3:39:54That's why we are so stupid.
3:39:57>> [laughter]
3:39:58>> Word of the day, right there.
3:40:02Well,
3:40:02>> Thank you, Shawn.
3:40:03>> Thank you. I learned a lot.
3:40:06I appreciate
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