Roberts Liardon God's Generals part 2 — Transcript

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1. 0:01Once again, Christ is transforming our streets
2. 0:03into Bible streets.
3. 0:05Again God is stretching out
4. 0:07His Mighty, Omnipotent hand.
5. 0:08Again, people are beginning to see
6. 0:10the Bible is right and the Bible holds the answer
7. 0:13to the world's problems.
8. 0:15Once again people are realizing
9. 0:17that what no man can do, our Heavenly Father can do.
10. 0:20Yes again, miracle days are here.
11. 0:23Miracle days for me.
12. 0:25Miracle days for you.
13. 0:27Miracle days for everybody in the world.
14. 0:29♪♪
15. 0:31Genesis 26:18 tells us
16. 0:32"Isaac dug again the wells of Abraham."
17. 0:35♪♪
18. 0:36In every generation,
19. 0:37there have been revivals,
20. 0:40massive moves of the Spirit
21. 0:43that changed the course of history.
22. 0:45♪♪
23. 0:46In every revival,
24. 0:48there were believers like you
25. 0:50who chose to answer the call
26. 0:53to become the one in their generation.
27. 0:56Discover your call
28. 0:57to be the one
29. 0:59in your generation.
30. 1:01We are about to take you
31. 1:03face to face with history.
32. 1:04♪♪
33. 1:12Brother Roberts, we can talk for days.
34. 1:14- Yes, I know...
35. 1:15He put education and spirituality together.
36. 1:19The early Pentecostal started.
37. 1:20If you got educated, you lose your anointing
38. 1:22because they sent their kids to schools,
39. 1:26that taught against what the parents taught them and the pastor taught them
40. 1:29instead of figuring out.
41. 1:30The school was the problem.
42. 1:31They thought it was education that was the problem
43. 1:34so they didn't want you to be educated
44. 1:36so Oral Roberts comes on and says,
45. 1:38"We are going to build an university
46. 1:40built on the authority of the Holy Spirit and God's Word
47. 1:43where you can "Get your learning and keep you burning"
48. 1:45was their first slogan,
49. 1:47educating the whole man, spirit, soul and body
50. 1:49so he did all those things
51. 1:51and then he also helped changed--
52. 1:52He and Kenneth Hagin probably did more to change the theology
53. 1:56of the Full Gospel movement than any two people alive.
54. 1:59- Okay. Kenneth Hagin.
55. 2:01Mark 5.
56. 2:02"For she said, if I may touch His clothes,
57. 2:07I shall be whole".
58. 2:09And He said, that's Jesus said unto her,
59. 2:12"Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole.
60. 2:18Go in peace and be whole of thy plague".
61. 2:24Now 2 things I want you so see.
62. 2:28What she said then was her faith speaking, wasn't it?
63. 2:32I said, wasn't it?
64. 2:34Wasn't it?
65. 2:36[Church answering] - Yes.
66. 2:37- Now what you say is your faith speaking.
67. 2:39Notice the 2 blind men.
68. 2:40What they said was their faith speaking, wasn't it?
69. 2:44Jesus said, "Believe ye that I am able to do this?
70. 2:46They said, "Yea, Lord", or yes Lord.
71. 2:48"Then touched he their eyes,
72. 2:51saying, according to your faith
73. 2:56be it unto you".
74. 2:58So what they said was their faith speaking.
75. 3:01What you say is your faith speaking.
76. 3:03Now, here is the other thing.
77. 3:05What did they get? Each one of them? What did they get?
78. 3:07What did this woman with the issue of blood receive?
79. 3:11What she said...
80. 3:13Go back to what Jesus said in Mark 11:23,
81. 3:16"For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say
82. 3:17unto this mountain, Be thou removed,
83. 3:19and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart,
84. 3:21but shall believe that those things which he saith
85. 3:22shall come to pass;
86. 3:24He shall have? He shall have? He shall have?
87. 3:27What?
88. 3:29What?
89. 3:30[Church]
90. 3:31- Whatsoever he saith.
91. 3:34You notice how "saying" and "believing" is hooked together,
92. 3:38joined together. Did you notice that?
93. 3:40I mean in connection with healing.
94. 3:43Now the same thing would be true.
95. 3:45You see, exercising faith in any other realm
96. 3:47would be the same as exercising faith and healing.
97. 3:49All vice versa,
98. 3:50exercising faith and healing would be the same
99. 3:52as exercising faith in any other realm, wouldn't it?
100. 3:56Well now the Bible tells us, "In the mouth of two or three witnesses
101. 4:01shall ever word be established".
102. 4:04I don't know about you but I like to establish
103. 4:06what I'm preaching with the Word of God.
104. 4:11- Another man that was dying here in Texas,
105. 4:14uh--that his personality would be such
106. 4:18not to lend him to become who he became.
107. 4:21He was socially, I would say in my opinion,
108. 4:24a little dysfunctional.
109. 4:26I spent few times with him and I know our audience
110. 4:28may get mad at me for saying this but bear with me.
111. 4:31He was wonderful under the anointing
112. 4:34but when you met him privately, he was very quiet and calm.
113. 4:37A man of few words.
114. 4:38- He was.
115. 4:39- And part of that in my opinion was because
116. 4:41when you're growing up and you learn social skills
117. 4:44and you learn dating skills, you learn playing with your friends,
118. 4:48he was home dying in bed.
119. 4:51- Yea.
120. 4:52- So God healed him, reading his Bible
121. 4:56and called him to teach faith and raised him up
122. 4:58and so my interactions with him has always been respect.
123. 5:01I grew up in Tulsa and so I'm "Haginite".
124. 5:03- Sure.
125. 5:04Hagin and brother "Copelanite". I both love them.
126. 5:05I remember back when I was a kid.
127. 5:07and so he becomes the man that's called to do one thing.
128. 5:10"Go teach my people faith"
129. 5:12and the greats are the ones that stick to their main calling.
130. 5:16So that's a true title for brother Hagin.
131. 5:18The father of the Word of Faith movement
132. 5:19even though some of the Faith people don't like that title,
133. 5:22I think it's an honorable title.
134. 5:24I think it should be worn with respect
135. 5:26because he obeyed what God said
136. 5:29and birth the whole movement to bring integrity back
137. 5:31to the word of God and if you put faith in the Scriptures,
138. 5:34the Scripture results will come about.
139. 5:36That's Kenneth Hagin.
140. 5:37He died well.
141. 5:38He died fullfilling all things.
142. 5:40He will go down in changing Full Gospel
143. 5:43and evangelical theology more than people know.
144. 5:46When you listen today to even up to Full Gospel,
145. 5:49their preaching...
146. 5:50you can have what you say messages in different terms
147. 5:53so all this stuff against brother Hagin and brother Copeland,
148. 5:56it's for the birds.
149. 5:57Everybody's preaching it so get over it.
150. 5:59Here it is.
151. 6:00- Ha ha, that's right. Amen to that.
152. 6:01- So that in a nutshell.
153. 6:02- All right, let's go next.
154. 6:05Maria Woodworth-Etter.
155. 6:06Another one that--I'd liked to have met Mother Etter.
156. 6:11She began that great healing mantle
157. 6:14that we admire on Benny Hinn and Ms. Kuhlman back in the 1800s.
158. 6:19She married a Civil War veteran that they tried to be farmers
159. 6:24and were not too good at it.
160. 6:25They had children and all but one died.
161. 6:28A little girl survived named Lizzie...Elizabeth,
162. 6:31and finally when farming wasn't working,
163. 6:33they said, "Why don't we try the ministry"?
164. 6:36Because she had a calling from a young age
165. 6:37and we have to realize, women in ministry in the 1800s
166. 6:41that didn't exist,
167. 6:42specially with the kind that Etter was going to be
168. 6:45so she came along and got ordained by being persistent
169. 6:49and being an obnoxious woman
170. 6:51in this little network in Ohio area--Indiana,
171. 6:54so they ordained her and sent her to a place called the devil's den
172. 6:59because every preacher that was sent there collapsed,
173. 7:01they didn't do well.
174. 7:02So they thought we will ordain her,
175. 7:04she'll go there and she will quit because it won't work
176. 7:07and she'll leave us alone.
177. 7:09Well they didn't realize they just sent the greatest advertisement.
178. 7:12To town was a woman preacher.
179. 7:13It was theatrical.
180. 7:15They came to see a woman preach the gospel
181. 7:18because it was a man's job
182. 7:19so the meetings begin to grow to see this oddity
183. 7:22- Yea,
184. 7:23- and the Word began to work and ignite the heart
185. 7:26and people began to get saved so she built a church
186. 7:28and led it with a 200 membership Sunday school.
187. 7:31Now I will give the denomination of the network
188. 7:33that ordained her credit
189. 7:34because then they recognized
190. 7:36this woman's for real and they got behind her
191. 7:38so we have to salute them for having enough guts to change
192. 7:42and get behind it.
193. 7:43So she had all 9 gifts of the Spirit flowing in her meetings before Azusa street.
194. 7:48So she predates the outpouring of modern Pentecostalism
195. 7:52with all of its gifts and graces in her meetings.
196. 7:54That's why early Pentecostals like
197. 7:56Bosworth and these once, looked over her
198. 7:58and called her the grandmother
199. 8:00of the Pentecostal movement.
200. 8:01They looked to her for advice and counsel,
201. 8:04how to flow better in the Spirit, to be more accurate
202. 8:07and she died well.
203. 8:08She was known for miracles and trance evangelism
204. 8:13was the sarcastic name that people gave her,
205. 8:16which was something that had happened
206. 8:18in the beginning, a shock to her.
207. 8:20While she'd be preaching, people would fall into trances
208. 8:23in her meetings include herself at times
209. 8:26and they were men and women, young and old,
210. 8:28saved and unsaved and so it would be for a short amount of times,
211. 8:31so it would be for quite lengthy times
212. 8:33and so that was something that was unusual.
213. 8:37In those days, Pentecostalism
214. 8:40was looked upon as a mental illness,
215. 8:42- Right,
216. 8:42- so we have a record
217. 8:44of the police coming into her tent to take children
218. 8:47out of the tent to save them
219. 8:49from this disease or this weirdness.
220. 8:53- So they thought it was like a cult?
221. 8:54- A cult or it was actual-- a physiological disease
222. 8:57or mental disease, order that could be transmitted.
223. 9:00They didn't know.
224. 9:01- I understand.
225. 9:02- So you have that even with Pentecostal churches,
226. 9:04social services would come and take children away
227. 9:07or sometimes, they even arrested Mother Etter
228. 9:10and put her in jail for a few times.
229. 9:12So she actually towards the end of her life
230. 9:15went to Indianapolis, Indiana, built a church of 500 people
231. 9:19which in those days was a megachurch
232. 9:21and some of the quotes we have of brother Wigglesworth,
233. 9:23are actually Etter quotes that he would use from her sermons
234. 9:26and so we think they're Smith's but really
235. 9:29he borrowed them from Mother Etter.
236. 9:30- Yea.
237. 9:31- But she died well.
238. 9:3328-year-old lady evangelist, Amy McPherson
239. 9:36would come to visit her towards the end of her life
240. 9:39and recalls she wanted to see this famous Etter
241. 9:43and there was a quarantine over in Indianapolis
242. 9:45and they told Mrs. McPherson that
243. 9:47you can't get them here
244. 9:48because there is a spread of a smallpox or something
245. 9:51and she goes, "When I get to the border,
246. 9:53you know, be lifted" so when Amy drove into town,
247. 9:55they lifted the quarantine about an hour before.
248. 9:58And they would spent a day and a night to hear Mother Etter preach.
249. 10:01I asked Amy Sumrall the question, "What does your mom remember
250. 10:05about you know, Mother Etter"?
251. 10:08And the quote was, "She wasn't that impressed".
252. 10:10- Ha ha.
253. 10:11- And so just a little bit of fun trivia for you.
254. 10:13One time, some of Etter--at a place where Amy was preaching,
255. 10:17the Etter teams goes,
256. 10:19"You want to go hear Amy"? And Etter goes,
257. 10:21"She is too theatrical for me".
258. 10:23So you hear 2 people that are full of high drama
259. 10:26and you can still see personality.
260. 10:28I don't care how knowledged you are,
261. 10:30how great, you still have your personal things
262. 10:32that I thought was unique.
263. 10:34Mother Etter calling Mrs. McPherson too dramatic,
264. 10:36like Mother Etter wasn't dramatic?
265. 10:38Come one.
266. 10:39So it's beautiful how these things interact
267. 10:41and you hear these little stories because
268. 10:42we still hear these things today about
269. 10:44some of our heroes meet each other
270. 10:45and their take on them but it's funny.
271. 10:48She died well.
272. 10:49Her first husband was divorced and then
273. 10:52she married Mr. Etter. Samuel was a wonderful man
274. 10:56and was a minister of helps kind of person,
275. 10:57loved what he did.
276. 10:59She buried both husbands and all of her children
277. 11:03before she died.
278. 11:04So she did have a little bit of a rough life
279. 11:07so but you know, I can talk forever on Mrs. Etter
280. 11:10- Okay, let's pick up with another great and
281. 11:17I'm a little hesitant to go here because of all
282. 11:20this can derail for a long time but let's talk about
283. 11:24one of our favorites which Kathryn Kuhlman.
284. 11:27He is giving me a love that is so priceless.
285. 11:33I guard it as carefully as what would God's jewel--
286. 11:39The most expensive jewel in the world.
287. 11:43Think of the most expensive gem in the world
288. 11:48and it's garded carefully.
289. 11:52And the things that I got so carefully
290. 11:56is this priceless jewel that I have.
291. 11:59My love for the masses.
292. 12:05My love for people but it's a supernatural love.
293. 12:10I tell you the God's truth
294. 12:14that I have stood before someone for whom I'm to pray,
295. 12:18knowing that I had no healing virtue,
296. 12:22knowing that I had no power to heal that one.
297. 12:27And there was an overpowering love
298. 12:30for that one
299. 12:33where literally I had prayed silently.
300. 12:37If it cost me my life,
301. 12:44please heal that one.
302. 12:47Something I can't explain to you.
303. 12:51It's something spiritual.
304. 12:55It's something that is spiritual,
305. 12:57something you, young people may never know what I'm talking about.
306. 13:00Some may never know what I'm talking about.
307. 13:03Some may never know.
308. 13:07I saw her 3 times as a little boy.
309. 13:08I met her once as a little boy.
310. 13:12She is the greatest preacher
311. 13:14I've ever seen in my life.
312. 13:16- Why?
313. 13:17- Well and I've seen them all since I was a little boy.
314. 13:21I grew up running through Oral Roberts' house in my diaper
315. 13:24so I was with all of them
316. 13:25and since the age of 13, I've traveled the world
317. 13:28so when I say the greatest...
318. 13:29The greatest thing because well, I have to say,
319. 13:341- She was thankful God gave her a second chance.
320. 13:38At the foundation of the Kathryn that we know was,
321. 13:41first, she was thankful that she had a second chance
322. 13:46because God didn't have to do that for her.
323. 13:48She messed up very bad and lost everything
324. 13:51and God is a God of a second chance.
325. 13:53-Yea.
326. 13:55- To me the greatest story of Kathryn, it's not the miracles,
327. 13:56it was the second chance.
328. 13:58So she was always grateful. 2- She adored Jesus Christ
329. 14:06with all of her heart and had the true most tremendous honor
330. 14:11and respect for the Holy Spirit who Jesus sent
331. 14:15that when she talked about the Holy Spirit,
332. 14:17you could not jester or make fun of Him
333. 14:19in any fashion or form, she would correct you.
334. 14:22Her disposition and honor for Him was
335. 14:26one of the things that when she walk out on that stage
336. 14:29wherever it was and she looked up,
337. 14:32there was no other way but for the Lord Himself and the Holy Spirit
338. 14:36to come to meet Ms. Kuhlman honor and faith in Him
339. 14:41and by that relationship,
340. 14:42it exploded into the crowd with miracles.
341. 14:46That's a way to say it.
342. 14:47God gave her an anointing and a gift
343. 14:53that she protected with her life.
344. 14:56She never allowed it to be merchandised.
345. 14:59She didn't allow it to be...
346. 15:00Now she was theatrical.
347. 15:02She was very eccentric in some ways, which I think
348. 15:07with the whole package but in her heart,
349. 15:11it was like that.
350. 15:13and she never left her calling.
351. 15:16So many preachers begin well and when they get successfull,
352. 15:19when they get money,
353. 15:20then they think they can do anything they want to do.
354. 15:22and then they wonder why the beginning miracle stages
355. 15:24and the beginning stuff fades away.
356. 15:27Well it left because you left it.
357. 15:29- Um.
358. 15:31- Ms. Kuhlman, when it came, she never left it
359. 15:34and she did it the same way almost every time.
360. 15:38Those are some reasons and she told you the secret
361. 15:42but nobody heard her.
362. 15:44"I have no healing power.
363. 15:46I have no healing virtue.
364. 15:50I have nothing.
365. 15:51I am nothing". And that right there.
366. 15:55"I'm nothing without Him".
367. 15:57Don't grieve the Holy Spirit
368. 16:00because I have nothing to give you.
369. 16:02If He leaves, I'm nothing".
370. 16:04And the way she ended her services,
371. 16:05it's when the Holy Spirit left the room, she quit.
372. 16:08That's why they went 3, 4, 5, 6 hours.
373. 16:10As long as the Holy Spirit was working,
374. 16:12she'd float.
375. 16:13As soon as she detected He was leaving,
376. 16:15she closed it and went off.
377. 16:17And she had beautiful services.
378. 16:23Some people have powerful services,
379. 16:25-- meetings.
380. 16:27She had beautiful.
381. 16:30The beauty of God was there.
382. 16:33You know, I miss her, I miss her all the time.
383. 16:37- Isn't not amazing even now when you pull up an old video,
384. 16:41I've told people on this program.
385. 16:43It's like you still pull it up.
386. 16:46- He shows up.
387. 16:47You're like...What? What's going to happen?
388. 16:49We would say, you're mesmerized by her
389. 16:54and what is she going to do next? And
390. 16:55what's going to happen?
391. 16:56I mean that all thing was resonating.
392. 16:59It's still there on the videos, you know as she is teaching.
393. 17:02- When I go tell all the "generals" stories,
394. 17:04I keep her for the last one because when I tell it,
395. 17:07that anointing or I called the theme comes in,
396. 17:10- Yea...
397. 17:11And people start crying.
398. 17:12In China, all over the world, when I tell her story, wooh!
399. 17:16It comes in the room and it is
400. 17:19the uniqueness of her story.
401. 17:21I don't know why or I have ideas but
402. 17:24I don't have for sure but that anointing...
403. 17:27Plus Kathryn Kuhlman died.
404. 17:30People don't believe it because she was so theatrical.
405. 17:32How can you say you die with all that drama?
406. 17:33- Right.
407. 17:34- But she knew better than anybody else
408. 17:36that she had nothing to do with it.
409. 17:37- Yea.
410. 17:38- And she knew very very much that she,
411. 17:40"I have nothing".
412. 17:41They asked her, "Why don't you write
413. 17:42a teaching book"?
414. 17:43She goes, "I don't know,
415. 17:45I don't know enough to talk about that.
416. 17:47I mean, I'll say something,
417. 17:48He'll do something different next week.
418. 17:49You can't follow a formula.
419. 17:53- See right there is light years ahead of so many
420. 17:58that we've seen. They try to come up--
421. 18:00they try to come up with this is the way it's going to work.
422. 18:03Into this day, we see ministries and churches, pastors,
423. 18:07"Oh, that's the way it worked last Sunday,
424. 18:08This is the way we do it this Sunday
425. 18:10and that's just not the case.
426. 18:12- Well the problem with people today,
427. 18:13they don't know the Lord, they know the mechanics of ministry
428. 18:16and that's the biggest disgusting problem of today.
429. 18:18- So how do you know the Lord and not know the ministry?
430. 18:21- What does He want to do?
431. 18:22- Right.
432. 18:23- You have to spend time with Him in prayer, and in His Word
433. 18:25and not following the latest trend...
434. 18:27All these guys we talk about, another common thing is,
435. 18:30there wasn't a formula.
436. 18:31The formula was they knew Him,
437. 18:34they cherished whatever anointing God gave them
438. 18:36and they followed that cloud for that moment.
439. 18:39They did, they did.
440. 18:40You know, have a service and be done in 20 minutes.
441. 18:43Are you kidding me?
442. 18:44The Holy Spirit does not obey the clock.
443. 18:47When revival shows up, and the glory shows up.
444. 18:50The first thing that disappears is time.
445. 18:51- Right.
446. 18:52As long as you are conscious of time,
447. 18:54you're in the flesh.
448. 18:55The sooner you enter into the realm of the Spirit
449. 18:56and the glory cloud comes, there is a move of God,
450. 18:58time disappears.
451. 19:00We went to Kathryn Kuhlman meetings
452. 19:02and got mad but it was over four hours later.
453. 19:05We thought it was 30 minutes.
454. 19:05I was a kid.
455. 19:07Kids didn't leave the auditorium.
456. 19:09You didn't go to the bathroom.
457. 19:10You didn't leave the room.
458. 19:12You sit there and I can still remember.
459. 19:14Coming out on stage and she cried half the time.
460. 19:17She cried and cried and cried and all of a sudden,
461. 19:19woom! And people started getting healed
462. 19:21all of the room and no one touched them.
463. 19:24There was no, there was no this emotional hype.
464. 19:27People sitting there, thinking
465. 19:28she was a witch, got healed.
466. 19:31Just sitting out there and she had a great word of knowledge
467. 19:33and woom! She could nail it
468. 19:35and someone up there on the third, from the top
469. 19:37on the fourth, boom!
470. 19:38She could hit it like that.
471. 19:39Her word of knowledge was phenomenal
472. 19:41with accuracy and so I saw...
473. 19:44I saw people get out of wheelchairs.
474. 19:46Not 2 or 3! 15 or 20 in one time.
475. 19:48Get up and walk out without anybody touching them.
476. 19:52Now I haven't seen that since.
477. 19:54I've seen 1 or 2, even in my own life,
478. 19:57I'm like, "Can it be a little bit better but
479. 19:59you know, I compare all the things to Ms. Kuhlman
480. 20:01because that's where I saw the greatest
481. 20:02amount of miracles in one service.
482. 20:05And to me, it's not also what you saw
483. 20:07in Kathryn's meetings that was great,
484. 20:08it's what you felt for 4 or 5 hours.
485. 20:11Her anointing would come in
486. 20:12and it didn't do this.
487. 20:14When she walked in, it began to accelerate
488. 20:17and it stayed that way for the whole time
489. 20:19and you could...I remember
490. 20:20my whole body quivering just enough
491. 20:23when you could feel it all over:
492. 20:24your chest, your legs, your feet, your arms
493. 20:27because of that presence and you could hear
494. 20:31the sound of the presence of God.
495. 20:33See, everybody talks about it.
496. 20:34Please there is a sound of God's presence.
497. 20:37- Absolutely.
498. 20:38- And in that meeting, you could hear a low...
499. 20:39We thought it was the air conditioning coming on.
500. 20:41You thought, you could hear that low rumble,
501. 20:44that low little-- just enough
502. 20:45that you could hear, wooh...
503. 20:47You could hear that sound and you walked out of there,
504. 20:50you could tell there was a difference
505. 20:51and all the old timers--check with the Kuhlman--Kuhlmanites
506. 20:56and they think, "If you really know Kathryn,
507. 20:58then they'll ask this question.
508. 20:59"Did you hear it"?
509. 21:02Well and I said, "If you are talking about the sound, yes".
510. 21:04And that's how I want because I identify as a little kid,
511. 21:07the sound of the presence of God in her meetings
512. 21:09because most people just talk about the miracles
513. 21:11but if you are really a student of Kathryn,
514. 21:14you'll know about the sound.
515. 21:16So that's how the old-timers.
516. 21:17I got it in a club of the old-timers Kuhlman people
517. 21:19because I heard the sound and I can identify it.
518. 21:22But there was a sound to that cloud.
519. 21:24Sound of the actual, tangible and so we are going...
520. 21:31We can talk all day long about Kathryn.
521. 21:32- And I agree, I agree with you, 100 percent.
522. 21:35What is it that you think her legacy really is?
523. 21:40- It would be the presence and the miracles but if
524. 21:43you know her stories, it's the God of a second chance.
525. 21:45- God of a second chance.
526. 21:46- I think people don't know her story.
527. 21:49- Why do you think?...Yes, I understand what you're saying.
528. 21:51Why do you think she was and I know you weren't
529. 21:55...obviously you were not an adult at that point but
530. 21:57why do you think she was able to keep--
531. 22:01She kept obviously humility.
532. 22:03She was very humble, she knew who she was.
533. 22:05She knew who she wasn't and she was able to stop.
534. 22:08You mentioned she didn't go into building
535. 22:11an empire as far as...
536. 22:14- I wish she would of...
537. 22:15- Ha ha, books and tapes...
538. 22:16- To keep something going,
539. 22:17- Yea, yea.
540. 22:18- But what is it that allowed her to do that?
541. 22:22- Because she had everything and lost it all.
542. 22:25And when God goes, "There".
543. 22:28- Yea.
544. 22:29- She took this as the most priced thing in her life.
545. 22:34- That's it.
546. 22:34- And her whole life.
547. 22:36Wait a minute. She never got married again,
548. 22:38never had a child, never built a building.
549. 22:41I've been giving the responsibility
550. 22:44to take healing as the dinner bell to salvation.
551. 22:48Her whole thing was when they see Jesus heal,
552. 22:52they will accept Him and have the greatest miracle
553. 22:55of salvation.
554. 22:56- Right.
555. 22:57- And that was her whole theme.
556. 22:59Plus she believed that Jesus was coming real soon
557. 23:02like they all do.
558. 23:03And a lot of them believe that
559. 23:06he's coming before they die and
560. 23:09that's not quite ever happened yet.
561. 23:10I will happen one day but...
562. 23:11- But not yet.
563. 23:13But they get so...What it is, they are going to Him,
564. 23:16He's not coming to them.
565. 23:17It's the concept but they kind of get it
566. 23:18inverted a little bit but
567. 23:20I think that would be and I think that she
568. 23:23gave everything.
569. 23:25She held nothing back.
570. 23:27She said, "The greatest day of my life,
571. 23:31the greatest day when I understood the power
572. 23:33of the Holy Spirit was the day when
573. 23:35Kathryn Kuhlman had nothing to do with it".
574. 23:39You know, she tells it all the time
575. 23:40and no one listens to her.
576. 23:41See the mechanically, is it the white dress?
577. 23:44Is it the music? Is it this? I mean, no.
578. 23:47She told you, die. Die.
579. 23:51When we, "faith" people,
580. 23:52we don't like the word "die".
581. 23:53We want to be alive, we want to be victorious.
582. 23:56I like all of that, I'm a "faith" guy but
583. 23:57where is power?
584. 23:59- Uh huh.
585. 24:00- Okay you are talking about power.
586. 24:02Here is a woman that had it but yet we don't like what she said
587. 24:06of how she got it because it bugs us.
588. 24:10You have to die.
589. 24:11Less of you, more of Him.
590. 24:14She quoted this all the time.
591. 24:15"It's not some of self and some of Thee.
592. 24:18It's not of self and all of Him".
593. 24:21- Yea.
594. 24:22- You know, these little things they say all the time
595. 24:23and people...
596. 24:25- Just go right back.
597. 24:26- Okay, I love the revelation.
598. 24:28I love the understanding but we live in a day
599. 24:31where if we don't get the demonstration,
600. 24:33we are going to lose the generation
601. 24:35and the demonstration comes the same way.
602. 24:38You have to get out of the way and become
603. 24:41a vessel that Jesus can trust and work through.
604. 24:45And He does not share 2 things with humans.
605. 24:48Vengeance and glory.
606. 24:51So those 2 things have to get out for sure
607. 24:54because if you're vengeful, it's over
608. 24:56and if you want to take a little bit of the "I am"
609. 24:59and today we have celebrities status that
610. 25:02has come from the world into the church and
611. 25:0595 percent of all the calls have not one ounce
612. 25:08of fame attached to them.
613. 25:10So people watching, realize if you are called to preach,
614. 25:12you are probably not going to be known
615. 25:14at all for it but God will know you
616. 25:17and that's what counts.
617. 25:18And so these calls are going to get out of the way
618. 25:22and that's very hard for a society who wants to be
619. 25:25and wants to be known and to stand...
620. 25:29I mean, she was famous but in her head,
621. 25:32she was a little girl from Concordia
622. 25:34that God gave a second chance to.
623. 25:36She remembered the day she lost everything.
624. 25:40- Right.
625. 25:42And she goes, "I know from whence I've come".
626. 25:46Where do you come from?
627. 25:48How did you get where you're at?
628. 25:49Who do you think you are?
629. 25:51- Right.
630. 25:51- Why not just be grateful
631. 25:54and not trying to be something?
632. 25:57- Kind of flies in the face of like you said,
633. 25:59a lot of modern christianity and
634. 26:01teaching and set your goal and reach and
635. 26:04"What's going to be is up to me".
636. 26:07Ha ha.
637. 26:08- Well, they achieved some success,
638. 26:10the mechanics of ministry.
639. 26:12They don't receive, they don't achieve
640. 26:14the presence and the biblical things that we read.
641. 26:17- I love what she said and I need to find that clip again
642. 26:22where she said...
643. 26:23It was her response,
644. 26:24I think it was to a reporter and it was like,
645. 26:27talking about the Holy Spirit and just,
646. 26:29"Young man, don't you understand?
647. 26:31He's more real to me than you are".
648. 26:35And she lived that way.
649. 26:37She lived that way and so that thing you talk about,
650. 26:41the thing that comes,
651. 26:43I mean I can feel it now,
652. 26:44just you talking about Kathryn is here.
653. 26:47So why don't we wrap this one and
654. 26:50I just want you to have...
655. 26:52take a few minutes, minister to the people.
656. 26:54However God leads you with that.
657. 26:56- You know, many times we feel the call of God come to us
658. 27:01and it's real.
659. 27:02But how you live the life next to it and with it,
660. 27:06has to become something that you
661. 27:08deal with every day of your life.
662. 27:10There is a daily time to make sure that you are
663. 27:14behind and Christ is in front.
664. 27:16There is a position that He gets all the glory.
665. 27:20Kathryn Kuhlman said, "He lets me keep
666. 27:22just enough "thank yous" to stay encourage for one more day
667. 27:26and all the other "thank yous" go to Him
668. 27:29to whom it belongs".
669. 27:31So I would say to you today,
670. 27:33begin to remove yourself from the front seat.
671. 27:37Put Christ there, put His heart there
672. 27:39and begin to take yourself out of the picture
673. 27:42and all you are is the vessel
674. 27:44and I pray for you today
675. 27:46that God will move the wrong people out of your life,
676. 27:50who will feed you the right thing,
677. 27:52encourage you the right way
678. 27:54and that the wrong people will get out of your life
679. 27:57so that the wrong desires,
680. 27:59the wrong motivations
681. 28:00will not be fueled in your life.
682. 28:03I pray for that miracle
683. 28:05of deliverance for you today,
684. 28:07in Jesus' name.
685. 28:09Amen and amen.
686. 28:10- Amen.
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