Rob Schneider on Nazis, Norm MacDonald, and Freedom of Speech — Transcript

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1. 0:01what what really shifted us was during
2. 0:03the pandemic and then George Floyd it it
3. 0:07became like an exponential shock waves
4. 0:10yeah during when people were definitely
5. 0:12unnerved because of the pandemic and you
6. 0:15know they were shut down they were
7. 0:17locked up they were their kids were
8. 0:19couldn't go to school their businesses
9. 0:21were closed it was a very traumatic I
10. 0:24don't know if we're going to know for
11. 0:25decades the exact ramifications to
12. 0:27society and to individuals and and
13. 0:29groups and different social strata or
14. 0:32different economic um levels what
15. 0:35happened to these people but at the same
16. 0:37time you had the the shock wave on the
17. 0:40shock wave of of George Floyd and then
18. 0:43what happened there and then the
19. 0:44grifters on top of that movement that um
20. 0:48really uh saw the opportunity to kind of
21. 0:52undermine western civilization and
22. 0:55language and education and they just
23. 0:57they went for it and there really wasn't
24. 1:00a check and balance at that time people
25. 1:02were scared they were vulnerable they
26. 1:05were cowed they were if you argued
27. 1:07against any part of it you were
28. 1:09denounced and demonized and and it
29. 1:12became a a an era then and hopefully
30. 1:16it'll end soon where disagreement wasn't
31. 1:20just I have a different idea and I have
32. 1:22a different opinion if you had a
33. 1:24different opinion or a different idea
34. 1:26you were a bad person that seems like
35. 1:28the biggest shift that's happened
36. 1:29happened in this in this new era is like
37. 1:32the the extent to which it used to be
38. 1:34just on the outer edges it was like oh
39. 1:36well you're a Nazi now it's like you're
40. 1:38a Nazi and that word got stretched
41. 1:40pretty thin right you're a Nazi you were
42. 1:42a Nazi if you joined the National
43. 1:44Socialist uh party you you had mine conf
44. 1:47on your dining room table and that you
45. 1:50said H Hitler and you hated Jews Gypsies
46. 1:53and homosexuals and did things about it
47. 1:56and actively uh spoke it and and and
48. 1:59then pursued that and then it went from
49. 2:00there to like this guy this guy is not
50. 2:04wearing a mask he's a Nazi I mean that's
51. 2:06a big leap so I think that I think the
52. 2:10value of certain words became um
53. 2:12devalued to say and and the
54. 2:15weaponization of language I mean like
55. 2:18it's when you say social justice who
56. 2:20would who would be against social
57. 2:21justice and then you know you you
58. 2:24realize as my good friend Andrew Doyle
59. 2:26says and James Lindsay and Peter B goian
60. 2:30uh these are real intellectuals uh they
61. 2:33say well these are trojan horse
62. 2:35terms so it sounds good but the idea is
63. 2:38once you open up the Trojan Horse well
64. 2:40this is this is communism in here what
65. 2:42are they talking about this is like this
66. 2:44is racist this is racism they're talking
67. 2:47about there's that clip of your good
68. 2:50friend nor McDonald I don't remember
69. 2:53where this was even from
70. 2:55Norm like that sounds like some cby
71. 2:58gobbley cook it was like some I think he
72. 3:01was Norm would hate that I'm talking
73. 3:02about this stuff you absolutely hate it
74. 3:05that's what anybody wants to smart
75. 3:07comedian serious comic yeah yeah who
76. 3:11wants that let's go see that serious
77. 3:14comedian but I I don't want to be
78. 3:16relegated as just a comedian I'm a human
79. 3:18being and at a point you know people
80. 3:21want to ask my opinion I'm going to give
81. 3:22it I I I think this wil ideology which
82. 3:25again borders on a has religious
83. 3:28architecture to it will collapse because
84. 3:30and I'm going just tell people cuz what
85. 3:32do you mean collapsing they said no it's
86. 3:33going to fall because the uh the
87. 3:35underpinings behind it um isn't the same
88. 3:38as um Christianity I mean you see some
89. 3:42Greek monks in the monastery that's been
90. 3:43there since the 13th century you know
91. 3:46900 years and it's an order and they
92. 3:48have they do this on Mondays and you
93. 3:51know and then Tuesdays they get up and
94. 3:53they have this it's one monk does this
95. 3:54and been doing it for you know almost a
96. 3:56millennium
97. 3:58now and they
98. 4:00and there is a purpose behind that
99. 4:02whereas in the 1960s you had communes
100. 4:05you're going like hey would it be a
101. 4:07great idea if we all live together for a
102. 4:08little bit you know six months later you
103. 4:10know wouldn't be a great idea if we
104. 4:11didn't live all together we didn't live
105. 4:12together what if I didn't see you ever
106. 4:13again you know but so in in very much
107. 4:17the same way the this woke um philosophy
108. 4:20doesn't have the same underpinnings as
109. 4:22as Christianity Christianity it's core
110. 4:25is love uh love your enemy uh love
111. 4:28others as thyself self um
112. 4:32forgiveness
113. 4:34sacrifice these
114. 4:37are something you can build uh hope you
115. 4:42you can build your life around um this
116. 4:45is something that uh is beneficial to
117. 4:48everyone whereas this woke philosophy is
118. 4:51is seems to be based on um creating
119. 4:55division um separating yourself from
120. 4:58everyone else yeah um
121. 5:01dividing and conquering and at its
122. 5:03Essence it seems to be vengeful or
123. 5:05revenge for people who didn't uh ever
124. 5:08feel like they fit in and now they have
125. 5:10the upper hand or trying to now that's
126. 5:12nothing to build a movement on that
127. 5:14seems like it'll last like a a 900 year
128. 5:17old Greek monastery one thing that is
129. 5:19interesting to me is that it does seem
130. 5:22like you are part of a commun a a comic
131. 5:25community that I wonder if this is a
132. 5:28generational thing you know like the you
133. 5:32know the you know Seinfeld
134. 5:36Sandler you know Norm the old SNL like
135. 5:39the the Heyday of grizzled veterans well
136. 5:42like when you know when SNL was really
137. 5:44like consistently funny and we all
138. 5:46watched it but thank you but at the same
139. 5:48time I remember all I remember is people
140. 5:50telling us how much we sucked like
141. 5:51Saturday night lives dead and all that
142. 5:53every generation yeah every generation I
143. 5:56mean thank you but I think they got a
144. 5:58good a good crew now and I thought that
145. 6:00Kate McKinny crew I thought like he had
146. 6:01will farell I mean it's so I I think
147. 6:04it's if that was where you grew up that
148. 6:07or that was your formative years that's
149. 6:08yours you know and I I it was a great
150. 6:11place to start I will say that and it's
151. 6:13it's a great place that that when
152. 6:16something's happening in America like an
153. 6:18election or something there's no better
154. 6:19place to go to to kind of get a gauge on
155. 6:21the and a lot of that's responsible to
156. 6:24this one guy named Jim Downey who did
157. 6:25most of the uh political uh comment on
158. 6:29that show for years it does seem like in
159. 6:32a world where you know the entertainment
160. 6:34industry has always been broadly
161. 6:36Democrat Le of and it should be I mean
162. 6:38it should be because it's young people
163. 6:39doing it right and it's like you know um
164. 6:42traditional liberalism is pretty good
165. 6:45you know traditional liberalism not how
166. 6:46it's been misused how we went from
167. 6:48women's rights to men you know
168. 6:52playing playing basketball against women
169. 6:55you know um I don't know how that that
170. 6:57seems we're getting into fights with
171. 6:58women which is my particular favorite
172. 6:59how how that's defensible by I know and
173. 7:01it's like and I feel sorry you know I
174. 7:02feel sorry for more than the woman in
175. 7:04the Rings the announcers is pretending
176. 7:05this is okay hey well what a what a you
177. 7:08know a tremendous uh you know breaking
178. 7:11barriers there and he broke her jaw I
179. 7:13mean she broke her jaw so it's it's it's
180. 7:16be you have to ridicule it at this point
181. 7:18it have you have to laugh at it it's the
182. 7:19only chance for it to collapse and I do
183. 7:21think it will collapse but I think going
184. 7:23back to what you're saying about um you
185. 7:25know I think young people traditional
186. 7:27liberalism gay rights I mean women
187. 7:29women's rights EXT you know um expanding
188. 7:33Freedom free speech I mean these These
189. 7:35are you know traditional you know as
190. 7:37much equality as you can get this sounds
191. 7:39like good stuff don't judge people by
192. 7:41the color of their skin that's that's a
193. 7:43good Bedrock to Foundation to build your
194. 7:46Society on and and we had it and then
195. 7:48someone suddenly said we didn't have it
196. 7:49like we didn't have it and it was under
197. 7:51the Obama Administration where started
198. 7:53to become um where I think it was kind
199. 7:56of proof that we' moved in the right
200. 7:57direction here's the elect uh you know
201. 8:00voting for and two times and all of a
202. 8:04sudden um we were more racist now than
203. 8:07we were so I I think again it was people
204. 8:10were abusing um the system that uh gave
205. 8:15rise to an incredible amount of of
206. 8:17freedom in the greatest experiment of
207. 8:19freedom in the history of the world but
208. 8:21it does make it vulnerable to attack and
209. 8:23that's where you're seeing a an attack
210. 8:26on the Western Civilization now A friend
211. 8:27of mine made a document a bunch of years
212. 8:30ago called can we take a joke and he's a
213. 8:32big Lenny Bruce fan okay I think you
214. 8:34might have even been in this movie it's
215. 8:35been a while since I've seen it but you
216. 8:39know Seinfeld's been out saying like
217. 8:41comedy's dead there's no comedy anymore
218. 8:43I don't agree with that yeah I was
219. 8:44curious what you think about that CU I
220. 8:45think it's just you have to be more
221. 8:46clever about it I mean like I you
222. 8:49there's a really great comedian I don't
223. 8:51know if a comedian
224. 8:53ever you know funnier or more outrageous
225. 8:56than Sarah Silverman she's the complete
226. 8:58opposite politically how I stand now and
227. 9:01but the way that she communicates ideas
228. 9:03is absolutely brilliant and she gets the
229. 9:05ideas by getting the audience to gree to
230. 9:08these horrible places and uh you would
231. 9:10watch her go I would never tell a joke
232. 9:12about race and this way and then she
233. 9:14just gets them to go okay and then she
234. 9:16does it so it really is in your
235. 9:18application and and your execution I
236. 9:20should say uh and like you know I was
237. 9:24trying to figure out you know one of the
238. 9:26great comics of of all time and one of
239. 9:27our certainly for our generation is c k
240. 9:30oh yeah and you I just like oh how does
241. 9:34he get away with and and I had to you
242. 9:36had to look at it you know
243. 9:39structurally and I was going like huh
244. 9:43okay he gets the audience to be okay
245. 9:47with questioning their own lack of
246. 9:49morality through his lack of morality
247. 9:52and so it's just it's a clever way to
248. 9:55get to talk about interesting stuff in
249. 9:57in the societal taboos which Lenny Bruce
250. 9:59talked about a comedian from the 1960s
251. 10:02really um which which opened up the
252. 10:05floodgates to a different um well to
253. 10:08questioning things um that we should
254. 10:12question all of it and I remember you
255. 10:13know my good friend John C from Mony
256. 10:15python talking about and him and Eric
257. 10:18Idol uh telling me about um Peter Cook
258. 10:23and the foot lights at I think it was at
259. 10:26Cambridge um Cambridge or Oxford I think
260. 10:29it was K the foot lights at at Oxford at
261. 10:32Cambridge and uh they'd never seen
262. 10:35anybody make fun of the Prime Minister
263. 10:37or the royal family and it's you it
264. 10:39wasn't even in their thinking that this
265. 10:41was a possibility so in all deference
266. 10:43and respect for Jerry Seinfeld is one of
267. 10:45the great masters of standup comedy of
268. 10:47the 20th century um by far I mean it's
269. 10:51it's anybody who disagrees with that is
270. 10:53is not you know to be taken seriously in
271. 10:56comedy but in all deference to him I
272. 10:58would say we just have to work harder I
273. 11:00mean I'm out there more because I have
274. 11:03to be but I'm out there more doing more
275. 11:05shows so I have to get things done um
276. 11:08and bring the audience along in in a way
277. 11:11that is acceptable to them and I totally
278. 11:14stole this idea from from the the
279. 11:17structural um the structure of Louis CK
280. 11:20which is if I make myself the butt of it
281. 11:22then I can get them to question this
282. 11:24this uh this morality whether no matter
283. 11:28what their political leaning
284. 11:29if I can talk about like how I want my
285. 11:32son to win at Athletics um in high
286. 11:36school and he's clearly not talented but
287. 11:38I want him to hold a trophy and I and
288. 11:40there's a conversation that I give to do
289. 11:41with my you know on stage where I talk
290. 11:43about talking to my son about joining
291. 11:45the women's team and it just nobody you
292. 11:48know yeah and the audience is really
293. 11:51uncomfortable but they they find
294. 11:54themselves laughing because of the you
295. 11:56know because I make myself in it because
296. 11:58I'm not talking talking about them doing
297. 12:00it I'm not talking about a specific
298. 12:02person this is all
299. 12:04just you know this is imaginary but if
300. 12:07you set up the scenario in a way that is
301. 12:10purely comic and and and keep them off
302. 12:14guard and make yourself like the bad
303. 12:16person in this and then I think you can
304. 12:18get to ideas so I would say in all
305. 12:21respect to Jerry Seinfeld no you can I
306. 12:24mean I will say there's certain places I
307. 12:26wouldn't do it I mean I've had people
308. 12:28extremely up
309. 12:30set it's been in the news that's how you
310. 12:32know it is a problem but I I refuse to
311. 12:35give into it but I've been on the news
312. 12:36for telling jokes I mean how do you get
313. 12:38on the news for a joke right but that's
314. 12:41that's that's that's that's how the news
315. 12:43is and that's how the place we're at um
316. 12:46and I was in Canada recently where it
317. 12:48happened I take that as a badge of honor
318. 12:51because I think you have to keep kicking
319. 12:53doors down and you know even when they
320. 12:57you know were complaining about it they
321. 12:58were also complained that people were
322. 13:00laughing loudly right well because it's
323. 13:02a reflection on how how horrible we all
324. 13:04are but well it's yes it is like these
325. 13:07people are laughing at this he's
326. 13:08encouraging their hate you know and I go
327. 13:12no I don't think so I think you know
328. 13:14we're adults in a room uh talking about
329. 13:18something that that I think they're
330. 13:19finding some relation to and the idea is
331. 13:23to um it's it's not to attack specific
332. 13:26things but to attack some sort of uh
333. 13:29something that is deserving of ridicule
334. 13:31I I've always I've tended to think that
335. 13:33there's sort of
336. 13:34two paths that most comedy tries to take
337. 13:39there's more than that but hear me out
338. 13:41you're the I want because you're the
339. 13:43feel like I'm talking to so you know the
340. 13:46ayatolla there's cool yes there
341. 13:49is well one is to to sort of Revel in
342. 13:53like what is super super familiar like I
343. 13:55watched your your woke up in America
344. 13:57special so much it is
345. 14:00about like being married and being asked
346. 14:04to go kill a spider like that literally
347. 14:06happened like the the we me and Lisa
348. 14:08shut off the TV she goes into the
349. 14:10bathroom screams and says there's a
350. 14:12spider that's the it's the biggest
351. 14:14consistently the biggest laugh in my
352. 14:16show which has nothing to do with
353. 14:18politics but it has to do with sexual
354. 14:20politics and power and the fact that a
355. 14:22guy can be um just as um scared of a
356. 14:27spider as or more so than a woman and I
357. 14:30think there's some people can relate to
358. 14:31that all of them everyone can relate to
359. 14:33that and it's a scream of a laugh which
360. 14:35is fantastic I wish I had more of those
361. 14:38kind of jokes but you know what's
362. 14:39interesting is that there seems to be
363. 14:41a uh a deliberate emasculation happening
364. 14:45in society and in Show Business I just
365. 14:47saw this movie by by John krinski that
366. 14:50that which is brilliant those movies
367. 14:52that a quiet place are absolutely
368. 14:54brilliant and like he is a guy who is a
369. 14:56a hero for actors saying don't just be
370. 14:59an actor be a producer be a writer be a
371. 15:01director do all these things and make
372. 15:02make something you make a hit and and
373. 15:04God bless him and Mary is Mary the most
374. 15:06beautiful woman in acting you know a
375. 15:08real hero for all of us actors but then
376. 15:10he made this new one and if I may you
377. 15:13know respectfully be disrespected now he
378. 15:17made the guy scared and like frightened
379. 15:20and screaming and the woman covering his
380. 15:22mouth and
381. 15:24like and just totally mulated this guy
382. 15:27you know and like the woman takes off a
383. 15:29sweater and gives it to the guy and it's
384. 15:31a total
385. 15:34demasculate this a man as as
386. 15:38entertainment you know and uh I found
387. 15:41that to be like come
388. 15:43on why am I you know and I and I don't I
389. 15:46don't think that that's a a singular um
390. 15:50exception in Show Business now and as
391. 15:53the Arbiter of societal trending I think
392. 15:57they are making a choice here that men
393. 15:59can be just as weak and useless and
394. 16:03which feeds back into the thing which is
395. 16:04my trigger which is this idea of toxic
396. 16:07masculinity do you like the way the air
397. 16:09conditioning works in this place or the
398. 16:11fact that the building isn't collapsing
399. 16:13well that's toxic masculinity that's
400. 16:15guys who probably didn't uh the guys who
401. 16:18did the work probably wanted to not go
402. 16:20to college whatever they wanted to work
403. 16:22with their hands or they didn't want to
404. 16:23was like I didn't I didn't want to
405. 16:25finish college I wanted to be a comedian
406. 16:26I want to get out of there and like but
407. 16:28what run Society Plumbing welding it's
408. 16:32not toxic masculinity it's men
409. 16:35accomplishing that needs to get done and
410. 16:37if it doesn't get done everything falls
411. 16:39apart and so to attack that as if
412. 16:41there's something wrong with that is to
413. 16:45me that is objectionable that to me is
414. 16:47um deserving of ridicule it does feel
415. 16:50like there's this sort of thing that's
416. 16:51baked into like what progressivism wants
417. 16:54to do which is to say I it's not good
418. 16:58enough to toate the people on the edges
419. 17:00we have to flatten the flatten the curve
420. 17:03so to speak the bell curve the bell
421. 17:05curve of reality which is actually like
422. 17:07most people are going to be comfortable
423. 17:09in this thing that looks pretty much
424. 17:11like normal life men and women
425. 17:14relationships
426. 17:16concerns and we should want to tolerate
427. 17:19the people who don't want that but
428. 17:21instead it's got to be like no no no no
429. 17:23we have to destroy that there has to be
430. 17:25Norms exactly well Thomas Soul talks
431. 17:27about much than I do in his book um uh
432. 17:31the fallacy of U social justice is the
433. 17:34idea of of um of flattening out some
434. 17:37people so other people can benefit from
435. 17:39it there's the the idea that there can
436. 17:42be equality of outcome is uh is lucer
437. 17:45because there's certain people that are
438. 17:46going to be better making beer you know
439. 17:49the Germans have been doing it for a
440. 17:50thousand years they're going to make it
441. 17:51better the opportunity the the idea that
442. 17:53the Filipinos are going to just jump in
443. 17:55and take over the beer business it's a
444. 17:57thousand years we' making Bill know they
445. 18:00know what they're doing you know and
446. 18:02there's I wouldn't write off the Koreans
447. 18:03they're pretty good at catching up yeah
448. 18:05but but they they learned from the
449. 18:07German they the the what was built by
450. 18:09the Germans so there's just the idea you
451. 18:11don't have same outcomes in the same
452. 18:13family so there the there's there's this
453. 18:16this myth this mythology and this the
454. 18:18idea of of doing something good and it's
455. 18:21like just reminds me of like nature you
456. 18:22know we need to get rid of these
457. 18:23squirrels we got to bring in from um
458. 18:26that little island those other these
459. 18:28those little Badgers and kill the
460. 18:29squirrels we bring him and then they
461. 18:31come in and they don't kill the
462. 18:32squirrels they kill all the Sheep you
463. 18:34know or whatever they just it up every
464. 18:36every chance they get so I guess it's
465. 18:40it's it has to be functional it has to
466. 18:42be tried you have to look at this
467. 18:44instead of these big sweeping measures
468. 18:46that's um uh you know like the diversity
469. 18:49equity and inclusion it's um it doesn't
470. 18:53work I mean the the idea of they want
471. 18:56diversity of skin color but not
472. 18:59idea they don't want the diversity of
473. 19:02ideas or ideology or anything they just
474. 19:04want to to look different but they don't
475. 19:07God forbid if you're a different color
476. 19:10but you're thinking differently then
477. 19:11you're out then you're a you know then
478. 19:14they have other derogatory terms for you
479. 19:17so I don't know my mom was Filipino my
480. 19:19dad was Jewish so I never felt included
481. 19:21anywhere with anything it's kind of
482. 19:23always felt like an outsider and I
483. 19:24always question things and I never
484. 19:26included in any group and I felt like an
485. 19:28outsider and I felt like as a standup
486. 19:29I'm an outsider I felt as my standup
487. 19:31career as an outlier I I'm out I'm
488. 19:34outside of it and I don't feel uh
489. 19:36beholden to any of it and I think that's
490. 19:38a it's the proper place to be I do think
491. 19:40I'm pigeon hold now as you know in this
492. 19:43because particularly I I feel I've never
493. 19:47felt um the underpinnings of what made
494. 19:50this country so great um like as
495. 19:53Washington would say that there's a
496. 19:55reason why freedom of speech is the
497. 19:57first Amendment
498. 19:59because all the other ones are relying
499. 20:02on it and that was even before guns I
500. 20:05mean I a lot of you know guns first what
501. 20:07are you talking about freedom of speech
502. 20:08Let's do the guns we needed the guns to
503. 20:10defeat the British but but he said that
504. 20:13freedom of speech that that was first I
505. 20:15mean that there's some I mean these that
506. 20:16wasn't taken lightly so the real arm the
507. 20:20arms that we have the real Armament that
508. 20:23is society is has been
509. 20:27gifted by the an incredible uh document
510. 20:31was freedom of speech so that's the
511. 20:34arming of the
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