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  1. 0:00Yeah.
  2. 0:00Um, so Jubal tonight, um, just based off
  3. 0:03of everybody talking to everybody,
  4. 0:05watching some video, you're being
  5. 0:07charged with homicide.
  6. 0:14On the afternoon of February 22nd, 2025,
  7. 0:18traffic near US 231 and Harrison Avenue
  8. 0:21in Panama City, [music] Florida, turned
  9. 0:23into a deadly crime scene. What
  10. 0:25investigators described [music] as a
  11. 0:27road rage encounter started with a
  12. 0:28confrontation between people in two
  13. 0:30vehicles.
  14. 0:31Within moments, the [music] situation
  15. 0:33escalated. A brief physical altercation
  16. 0:35broke out. The drivers returned to their
  17. 0:38vehicles, and then gunfire erupted.
  18. 0:4148-year-old Georgiann Garner was killed.
  19. 0:43>> [music]
  20. 0:43>> Her 19-year-old daughter, Merly Lewis,
  21. 0:45was critically injured. Two other people
  22. 0:48inside [music] Garner's vehicle survived
  23. 0:49without physical injuries.
  24. 0:51Police say the suspects fled in a gray
  25. 0:53Dodge Ram.
  26. 0:54A nearby Panama City police [music]
  27. 0:56officer heard the shots, saw the truck
  28. 0:58leaving the scene, and a pursuit
  29. 1:00followed with help from the Bay County
  30. 1:01Sheriff's Office and the Florida Highway
  31. 1:03Patrol.
  32. 1:04The investigation would later focus on
  33. 1:06Jubal [music] John Simmons.
  34. 1:08Prosecutors said the gun used in the
  35. 1:10shooting was thrown into a drainage
  36. 1:11[music] ditch during the chase,
  37. 1:13recovered by police, and linked to the
  38. 1:15shooting through forensic testing.
  39. 1:16[music]
  40. 1:17This is the interrogation of Jubal John
  41. 1:19Simmons.
  42. 1:25So,
  43. 1:26is it John?
  44. 1:28Jubal? Jubal. Jubal. Jubal, hey.
  45. 1:32My partner, Detective Cruz, okay? We're
  46. 1:34going to be the ones talking about just
  47. 1:35what happened tonight. I'll go ahead and
  48. 1:37get the ball rolling. What are you in
  49. 1:38here for?
  50. 1:46Any water or anything, man?
  51. 1:48No. Okay.
  52. 2:03>> Jubal, let me just get my recorder going
  53. 2:04just so I can record our conversation
  54. 2:06tonight, okay?
  55. 2:10Madam Secretary, the date is June
  56. 2:12February 22nd, 2025. I'm Detective
  57. 2:15Brettner with the Panama City Police
  58. 2:17Department. The time is 8:15 p.m.
  59. 2:21I'm at the Panama City Police
  60. 2:22Department. This is in reference to PCP
  61. 2:24case number related to the
  62. 2:26determination. With me present is
  63. 2:28Detective Brettner.
  64. 2:30Jubal Johnson. Okay. And what's your
  65. 2:33date of birth?
  66. 2:34August 17th, 1971. Okay. And what is
  67. 2:36your phone number for you?
  68. 2:38Um
  69. 2:39I don't I got one number three. Okay.
  70. 2:42Is that a working phone number? Okay.
  71. 2:44And what is your home address for you?
  72. 2:47Um
  73. 2:48I do not have one at the moment.
  74. 2:50Okay.
  75. 2:51Um
  76. 2:52couch surfing, you don't have a home at
  77. 2:53all. No, I do live in an RV. RV, okay.
  78. 2:56Where at? Um on some property that uh
  79. 3:00she owns.
  80. 3:01She? Yeah. Okay.
  81. 3:03Do you know
  82. 3:05what road it's by, what road it's off
  83. 3:06of?
  84. 3:07Um Western.
  85. 3:09Huh? Southwestern Road. Okay. Is that in
  86. 3:11Bay County? Okay.
  87. 3:15And you prefer to be called Jubal, you
  88. 3:16said? Jubal, okay.
  89. 3:18So Jubal, just um
  90. 3:21just trying to get the whole story of
  91. 3:22what's happened, okay? We obviously want
  92. 3:23to get your side of just what occurred
  93. 3:25tonight. Um but before I talk to you,
  94. 3:27I'm just going to read you your rights,
  95. 3:28okay?
  96. 3:30Um after I read them, just give a yes or
  97. 3:31no if you understand, okay?
  98. 3:33Okay. You have the right to remain
  99. 3:35silent. Anything you say can be used
  100. 3:37against you in court. You have the right
  101. 3:39to talk to a lawyer for advice before we
  102. 3:41ask you any questions. You have the
  103. 3:43right to have a lawyer with you during
  104. 3:44questioning if you wish.
  105. 3:47If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will
  106. 3:49be appointed for you before any
  107. 3:50questioning. If you decide to answer
  108. 3:52questions now without a lawyer present,
  109. 3:54you have the right to stop answering at
  110. 3:55any time until you have consulted a
  111. 3:57lawyer. Do you understand those? No,
  112. 3:59ma'am. Do you still wish to talk to me
  113. 4:00tonight? I do not. Okay.
  114. 4:04So,
  115. 4:05just to clarify, you're
  116. 4:07you don't want to talk to me tonight or
  117. 4:08are you requesting your lawyer?
  118. 4:10Um both. Both? I will not be able to
  119. 4:12talk tonight, though. I'm free now.
  120. 4:15Okay.
  121. 4:16Is there something that you I mean, can
  122. 4:18we get you a blanket or something to get
  123. 4:19you through the
  124. 4:20I don't like clothes. May I get
  125. 4:22something I would No, you're in a
  126. 4:24helpless situation. I'm good.
  127. 4:32Okay.
  128. 4:34Do you want to go over I got to go to
  129. 4:35the bathroom. Yeah.
  130. 4:37Um so, Juvon tonight,
  131. 4:39just based off of everybody talking to
  132. 4:41everybody, watching some video, you're
  133. 4:43being charged with homicide.
  134. 4:46Okay.
  135. 4:47So far you shot at CI
  136. 4:49and her daughter. They're probably about
  137. 4:50to die.
  138. 4:51Um so, that's two homicides.
  139. 4:54You're also being charged with attempted
  140. 4:56murder as well on top of those.
  141. 4:58Okay?
  142. 5:00These are first-degree felonies, you'll
  143. 5:02probably never get out of prison, okay?
  144. 5:08You can go ahead and do that.
  145. 5:11You can use the sign in your back.
  146. 5:2375 residents.
  147. 5:25Mhm.
  148. 5:45Spell your first name for me, again.
  149. 5:49I V Y
  150. 5:51B E L L A
  151. 5:54I V Y B E L L A It's I I go by Bella.
  152. 5:58Okay, but give me your full legal
  153. 6:00>> Bella. Ivy? Ivy Bella. I
  154. 6:04V Y
  155. 6:05>> V as in Victor Y B E L L A. Ivy Bella.
  156. 6:09All one word. Yes. What's your middle
  157. 6:10name? Coral. Spell it.
  158. 6:14Coral. Spell it.
  159. 6:17C You do not spell it? Do you know how
  160. 6:19to spell it?
  161. 6:20>> Spell it for me because I don't know.
  162. 6:21People spell their names weird. Spell it
  163. 6:22for me.
  164. 6:23>> You're being very rude to me. I'm not
  165. 6:24being rude.
  166. 6:25Spell your name.
  167. 6:26>> to be nice if you're being rude to me.
  168. 6:28You're the one who's being rude.
  169. 6:31I don't understand this respect for
  170. 6:33yourself Spell your last name for me.
  171. 6:35E N C I N O Spell it. Yes, 2604, right?
  172. 6:44Bella. I'm sorry?
  173. 6:46>> 2604, right?
  174. 6:47Uh-huh. I don't know what that means.
  175. 6:49Your date of birth. I'm 20. Yes. What's
  176. 6:52the last four of your socials?
  177. 6:56Where are you Last place you stayed at
  178. 6:58was out of Florida, right? Tallahassee.
  179. 7:00Okay. Well, that's in Florida. Okay. The
  180. 7:02capital
  181. 7:09Good?
  182. 7:11Okay.
  183. 7:12Is there a detective on the way too?
  184. 7:14Yes. Is there a detective on the way
  185. 7:16too? She's Yeah, yeah.
  186. 7:17They had to call her from home. It's her
  187. 7:18day off, so it took her minutes to get
  188. 7:20ready and come up, so she's coming. Why
  189. 7:23do we have to talk to a detective
  190. 7:24instead of officers? Because of the
  191. 7:27whole situation that took place.
  192. 7:28Nothing Nothing I can do as far as
  193. 7:30talking to you, okay? She'll be here
  194. 7:32shortly.
  195. 7:39Hello. Hello. Yeah, I'm Detective
  196. 7:41Brachner. Wanted to come over here real
  197. 7:43quick. Just need to go over this one.
  198. 7:45I'll take those handcuffs off of you.
  199. 7:52This is Sergeant Clark. Hello. Hi.
  200. 7:55What's your name?
  201. 7:56Bella. I go by Bella. Okay, Bella. You
  202. 7:58don't have to go by Bella. That's what
  203. 7:59you can call me.
  204. 8:01It's my real name is just Ivy Bella. I'm
  205. 8:04Bella.
  206. 8:05Yes, ma'am.
  207. 8:06I'm not a lawyer or anything.
  208. 8:15Okay, Bella, you said
  209. 8:16you have a
  210. 8:18How old are you? I'm 21.
  211. 8:20>> 21.
  212. 8:22Um,
  213. 8:23obviously you know why we're getting
  214. 8:25involved tonight, okay?
  215. 8:26Um,
  216. 8:30just for my purposes, I don't want you
  217. 8:31to be recording on my phone, okay? Of
  218. 8:32our conversation?
  219. 8:37Madam Secretary, the date is February
  220. 8:40February 22nd, 2025. I'm Detective
  221. 8:42Brettner with the Panama City Police
  222. 8:44Department. This is in reference to PCP
  223. 8:46D case number later to be determined.
  224. 8:48The time is 6:43 p.m.
  225. 8:51Uh, with me present is also Sergeant
  226. 8:54Clark and Ms. Ivy Bella. Can you state
  227. 8:57your full name just for the record?
  228. 8:58>> Ivy Bella, you can call me that. And
  229. 9:00what's your date of birth? 02 06 2004.
  230. 9:04And what's a good phone number for you?
  231. 9:06850-319-109.
  232. 9:11Okay, and what's a good home address for
  233. 9:13you?
  234. 9:21Okay.
  235. 9:22And um,
  236. 9:24just before I kind of get into it, I'm
  237. 9:26going to read you your rights, okay?
  238. 9:28Um,
  239. 9:30just at the end of it, just tell me yes
  240. 9:31or no if you understand, okay?
  241. 9:33You have the right to remain silent.
  242. 9:35Anything you say can be used against you
  243. 9:36in court. You have the right to talk to
  244. 9:38a lawyer for advice before we ask you
  245. 9:40any questions. You have the right to
  246. 9:41have a lawyer with you during
  247. 9:42questioning. If you cannot afford a
  248. 9:44lawyer, one will be appointed for you
  249. 9:46before any questioning if you wish. If
  250. 9:48you decide to answer questions now
  251. 9:50without a lawyer present, you have the
  252. 9:51right to stop answering at anytime until
  253. 9:53you have consulted a lawyer. Do you
  254. 9:55understand this?
  255. 9:58Okay. Do you still wish to talk to me
  256. 10:01tonight about what happened?
  257. 10:03Yeah, fine. Okay.
  258. 10:06Um
  259. 10:07Sign right here. That's just saying I
  260. 10:08read you these and you understand.
  261. 10:13Why am I being arrested? For what? For
  262. 10:15right now, you're being detained, okay?
  263. 10:17>> Okay.
  264. 10:24And this is just until we can figure out
  265. 10:27what happened, what's going on. You say
  266. 10:29you're from Is your Tallahassee the home
  267. 10:31address?
  268. 10:32It's the last known address that I live
  269. 10:35on property that is I don't have an
  270. 10:37address for, so technically I'm
  271. 10:40homeless, so. Mhm.
  272. 10:42Um how long were you raised in
  273. 10:44Tallahassee?
  274. 10:45No, I lived there for like a year. Okay.
  275. 10:48Uh what had you in Bay County today?
  276. 10:51Um I would live in Bay County. I just
  277. 10:54went outside to um I actually went to
  278. 10:56Pepper's and then I was going to um
  279. 10:59Uncle Ernie's. I just didn't realize
  280. 11:01there was a parade going on, so I
  281. 11:03decided to go home.
  282. 11:04Okay.
  283. 11:06So, you went to Pepper's. Did you work
  284. 11:07at Pepper's or did you just We were just
  285. 11:08eating in there.
  286. 11:09Okay. Who is we?
  287. 11:11You know, my friend.
  288. 11:13Okay. What's your friend's name? It's
  289. 11:15John. That's what I know. Okay. Do you
  290. 11:17know his last name or anything?
  291. 11:20Okay. So, um you and John were hanging
  292. 11:22out today going to grab some lunch or
  293. 11:24dinner? Lunch.
  294. 11:25>> Lunch, okay.
  295. 11:27And did you just not want Pepper's so
  296. 11:29you decided to go to Uncle Ernie's
  297. 11:30instead? We went to Pepper's. we just
  298. 11:33only got like chips and salsa and like
  299. 11:34appetizers, so we decided to get like
  300. 11:37actual food somewhere else. Okay.
  301. 11:40I see the beads on your neck. Did you
  302. 11:41guys enjoy the event at all? I just
  303. 11:43happened to stop at the restroom and a
  304. 11:45couple older ladies, I asked them about
  305. 11:48the beads and they handed me a few when
  306. 11:50I walked out the restroom. Okay.
  307. 11:53Um did y'all go to the events at all
  308. 11:55down there?
  309. 11:56Just I went to we stopped in the main
  310. 11:58street and bathroom went to the bathroom
  311. 11:59and I got a little bag of popcorn and we
  312. 12:01decided to go home cuz I we didn't
  313. 12:03realize there was a whole parade going
  314. 12:05on.
  315. 12:05>> Mhm. Yeah, it's it's crazy that time of
  316. 12:07year. I I hate working that thing, it's
  317. 12:09too many people for me.
  318. 12:12Um
  319. 12:13So how long were you guys going after?
  320. 12:16We were going home. I was going home.
  321. 12:18Okay.
  322. 12:19And that's to tell after you you moved
  323. 12:22here, correct? Bay County.
  324. 12:24Where's home in Bay County?
  325. 12:25Out in Fountain. Fountain. Can you give
  326. 12:28me the address?
  327. 12:30There is no address. Okay. I live in my
  328. 12:32truck. Okay. On these properties? Yeah,
  329. 12:35I just stay where I can.
  330. 12:39What road is it off of?
  331. 12:42Um
  332. 12:45I want to say
  333. 12:47Silver Lake.
  334. 12:49Okay.
  335. 12:54And um
  336. 12:57You may have said it and I just missed
  337. 12:58it. How long have you known John?
  338. 13:01Not too long. Okay. When did you guys
  339. 13:04meet?
  340. 13:05Just a rough estimate.
  341. 13:07Oh, a few months ago. Not too long, but
  342. 13:09I don't even know. Okay.
  343. 13:11How
  344. 13:12um We're just good friends. How did
  345. 13:14y'all meet?
  346. 13:16Through mutual friends? We both work
  347. 13:17here. Okay.
  348. 13:19Where do you work?
  349. 13:21I don't work out here anymore.
  350. 13:24What did you used to do?
  351. 13:25Like um
  352. 13:27freelance work. Pretty much anything I
  353. 13:29can do. Okay. Like, um, events. So,
  354. 13:32like, I go on Craigslist and I just
  355. 13:33search up
  356. 13:35something with ads.
  357. 13:36Yeah. What What work do you like to do?
  358. 13:39Serving. Serving? Okay. I was a server
  359. 13:41for 6 years, so Yeah. I know that life.
  360. 13:46You like it? It's okay.
  361. 13:48Okay.
  362. 13:50So, you got to home to Fountain and John
  363. 13:53with you?
  364. 13:55He was just coming with me, yeah. Okay.
  365. 13:57Was he with you all day?
  366. 13:59No, we went to Peppers, yeah. Okay.
  367. 14:02So, you picked him up
  368. 14:04or did he stay with you in the truck? We
  369. 14:06were just staying together for a little
  370. 14:08bit.
  371. 14:09Okay.
  372. 14:10Um, is he like you guys like boyfriend
  373. 14:14and girlfriend or what what's that like?
  374. 14:17We're good friends, I think. Okay.
  375. 14:21So, he stays in the truck with you, you
  376. 14:22guys are good friends, and you're headed
  377. 14:24to Peppers today.
  378. 14:25We already went. I mean, earlier you
  379. 14:28were headed to Peppers, went to Uncle
  380. 14:29Ernie's, and now you're headed home.
  381. 14:32Tell me what what was the drive on the
  382. 14:34way home? Um, we were coming from like
  383. 14:38Canal Road to turn on the 231 and I was
  384. 14:41making that turn
  385. 14:42and, um,
  386. 14:44the car in front of me had completely
  387. 14:46cut me off and almost hit me. Okay. And
  388. 14:49then when I was upset and I was like,
  389. 14:51"Hey, you know." They all got out of
  390. 14:54their car and came to my vehicle. One of
  391. 14:57the passengers, uh, I think they were in
  392. 14:59the back seat, came to my door and I had
  393. 15:01my window down.
  394. 15:03I don't know what she had on her. I
  395. 15:05don't know what
  396. 15:06and and they all got There was two guys
  397. 15:08and two girls and one of them came up to
  398. 15:11my vehicle Okay. and I opened the door
  399. 15:14and when I opened the door she she
  400. 15:15punched me in my face. I don't I don't
  401. 15:17even know what I felt it. I don't know
  402. 15:19if I got That was that is on this side
  403. 15:21here. I don't know if it is anything on
  404. 15:23this side, but I felt it and she punched
  405. 15:25me in my face.
  406. 15:26And that's when I just ended myself.
  407. 15:28How'd you defend yourself?
  408. 15:31I drove off. All right.
  409. 15:37And what happened after that?
  410. 15:41Um I heard police cars and then there
  411. 15:43was a car in front There was a police
  412. 15:45car in front of me
  413. 15:46and I I tried to veer off and we hit
  414. 15:48each other.
  415. 15:50Okay.
  416. 15:51Um
  417. 15:54So, you said she cut you off. You
  418. 15:56remember where I you said 231. Where at
  419. 15:58on Church Street 231?
  420. 16:00>> Um
  421. 16:01left on North. She went in the left lane
  422. 16:03and I stayed in the You know, she went
  423. 16:05in the right lane and I stayed in the
  424. 16:07left lane and I got to proceed to be in
  425. 16:09that lane. She completely just got over
  426. 16:12on me and almost hit my vehicle. Do you
  427. 16:14remember where like businesses were
  428. 16:16nearby? It's um
  429. 16:20I think I know what you're talking
  430. 16:21about. I just wanted to make sure for my
  431. 16:22>> Yeah, it's like where the Waffle That
  432. 16:24light where the Waffle House is.
  433. 16:27Okay. I think And she cut you off. What
  434. 16:30is she driving?
  435. 16:31It was a red car and like it looked like
  436. 16:33a SUV. That's all I can say. Okay. So,
  437. 16:37she cut you off. Yeah, she She almost
  438. 16:39hit my vehicle and I was upset and then
  439. 16:42all of all everybody in the vehicle got
  440. 16:45out.
  441. 16:46And one of them came to my driver door.
  442. 16:48You said a female. Was it the same
  443. 16:49female that was driving? No, it was the
  444. 16:52female behind the female that was
  445. 16:54driving. And then when she got out, the
  446. 16:56female that was driving got out and then
  447. 16:58two There's two guys that got out. Okay.
  448. 17:02Um where were you at when they got out?
  449. 17:04Um we were at a light.
  450. 17:06Do you remember which light? Um
  451. 17:09I have no clue. Okay.
  452. 17:11So, it wasn't the same light that you
  453. 17:13had just got cut off at? No, it was we
  454. 17:15were taking a left
  455. 17:16>> Mhm. and she went into the left lane and
  456. 17:19I was in the right lane and she got over
  457. 17:21on me and we were at that light right
  458. 17:23there. Okay. So we stopped at the light
  459. 17:25and she's in front of you? She got in
  460. 17:28front of me. I I just It's like she's
  461. 17:30right in front Okay. Okay. So the female
  462. 17:33what what side does the female get out
  463. 17:35of? It was the driver's side and she was
  464. 17:37behind the driver. The passenger driver
  465. 17:39or the passenger on the driver's side
  466. 17:41got out. Do you remember what she looked
  467. 17:43like or anything? She had dark hair. Um
  468. 17:48probably a little maybe just a little
  469. 17:50thicker than me. Not really
  470. 17:53tall, short? Probably maybe the same
  471. 17:55height as me maybe just a little
  472. 17:57shorter. I I don't know.
  473. 17:58Um
  474. 17:59What was she saying? Did she say
  475. 18:00anything to you?
  476. 18:01>> Yeah, she was yelling at me saying oh
  477. 18:03something about her mom blah blah blah
  478. 18:05cuz I was upset that they cut me off and
  479. 18:08I was just like hey you know visibly
  480. 18:09upset at the driver like hey what the
  481. 18:12heck you know it's like
  482. 18:14>> So when her you get out of the car were
  483. 18:16you like honking or
  484. 18:18I didn't honk at them at all.
  485. 18:20I didn't honk at them. I was just like
  486. 18:22are you freaking kidding me like you
  487. 18:24know? So she gets out of car and she
  488. 18:26comes up to you. Yeah, she came to my
  489. 18:28driver's door. Yeah and I opened my door
  490. 18:31and once I opened my door she hit me in
  491. 18:33my face. Okay, just with her closed
  492. 18:35fist? Yes. Okay and then at that time
  493. 18:38the other passengers get out? Yeah, all
  494. 18:40the I think they were already out the
  495. 18:43the two guys were already out and then
  496. 18:44the mom got out.
  497. 18:46Okay, did they say anything to you?
  498. 18:48Yeah, they were yelling The two guys I
  499. 18:50don't think they said anything to me but
  500. 18:51the mom was yelling at me. Yeah. Okay,
  501. 18:53what was the mom saying? She was just
  502. 18:55saying something about her daughter.
  503. 18:57Okay.
  504. 18:58Um did they ever like get up as close as
  505. 19:01the um
  506. 19:02the girl who punched you was? Did they
  507. 19:03ever get that close to the truck?
  508. 19:05The mom did not the two guys.
  509. 19:07>> Okay.
  510. 19:08And did the mom punch you at all?
  511. 19:11No. Okay.
  512. 19:12So after the arguing and yelling,
  513. 19:16you said you took off from them.
  514. 19:18Okay. And what during the argument at
  515. 19:22the light,
  516. 19:23what was it John doing?
  517. 19:26He was like I was I was telling them I
  518. 19:29was like, "Hey, don't come at me, you
  519. 19:32know, I'm not like this is Florida. You
  520. 19:35have a You have a three steps towards me
  521. 19:37or I can defend myself." Okay. You know,
  522. 19:40like if you can come at me three steps
  523. 19:42threatening, then I can defend myself
  524. 19:44because I don't know what you have or
  525. 19:46what you are doing. Right. Just as much
  526. 19:48as you don't you know, so.
  527. 19:50Did they have any weapons? Were they
  528. 19:53They were reaching, so I don't know if
  529. 19:55they did. How were they reaching? They
  530. 19:57were reaching in like in their pocket or
  531. 19:59in their pants like they did have
  532. 20:00something. Okay. But they never like
  533. 20:03openly displayed any weapon that you
  534. 20:05saw? I It looked like they were trying
  535. 20:08to grab one. That's what it looked like
  536. 20:09to me. Okay. But they never It looked
  537. 20:12like they were, but they never did?
  538. 20:14It looked like they were grabbing one,
  539. 20:16yeah.
  540. 20:17But did they ever grab one?
  541. 20:19I didn't see one, but I saw them
  542. 20:21grabbing. You saw them trying to get
  543. 20:22just for the record, if you actually saw
  544. 20:25a gun or a knife or anything? I just saw
  545. 20:27them grabbing and they were close enough
  546. 20:29to me where I didn't know I had to
  547. 20:31protect myself. Okay. So, you drove away
  548. 20:33to protect yourself?
  549. 20:34>> I did. Okay.
  550. 20:36And I guess
  551. 20:38back up a little more.
  552. 20:39Did you What did What was it John doing
  553. 20:42when they when they were approaching
  554. 20:44your car when the girl punched you? What
  555. 20:46was his reaction to all of this? I don't
  556. 20:48know. I wasn't paying attention. Okay.
  557. 20:52And
  558. 20:54as you're taking off,
  559. 20:56was anything said? Anything further
  560. 20:58said? Anything like that?
  561. 21:00I don't even know.
  562. 21:02I I drove off when I saw light turn
  563. 21:05green. Okay.
  564. 21:07Um
  565. 21:08So, what was I going to keep myself in
  566. 21:09that position?
  567. 21:11You said you took off. Did you cut them
  568. 21:13off to get away? Did you follow behind
  569. 21:15them?
  570. 21:16I went around them to get away. There
  571. 21:18was a turning lane and I went in the
  572. 21:20turning lane. Okay. And I turned.
  573. 21:23I can't remember if I turned at that
  574. 21:25light or I turned at a light to get away
  575. 21:27from them. And then that's when I heard
  576. 21:29cop cars and I saw a cop car in front of
  577. 21:30me and I was like, "Oh, crap." And I I
  578. 21:33just tried to pull off and we we smacked
  579. 21:36each other on the side. Okay.
  580. 21:39So,
  581. 21:42and what happened after you hit the
  582. 21:43officer?
  583. 21:44Or the officer hit you. What happened
  584. 21:46after that?
  585. 21:47I stopped. The my steering wheel um
  586. 21:51locked and I couldn't move my steering
  587. 21:53wheel at all. So, I the truck went where
  588. 21:55it went and I slammed on my brakes so I
  589. 21:57didn't Mhm. mess anything else up and
  590. 22:00then the cop came up to my vehicle and I
  591. 22:01put my hands up.
  592. 22:03Okay.
  593. 22:04Um
  594. 22:08Do you Are you Do you have a firearm?
  595. 22:11Like do you own a firearm? Anything like
  596. 22:13that? Nothing?
  597. 22:15Does John own a firearm?
  598. 22:17I don't know.
  599. 22:18Okay.
  600. 22:22So,
  601. 22:23you're you're you're leaving out a lot
  602. 22:25of key details.
  603. 22:27Okay.
  604. 22:31I'm just telling you everything that I
  605. 22:32know. Yeah, I get your you're probably
  606. 22:34scared. That's obviously something that
  607. 22:36will but I I mean I just had some girl
  608. 22:39come up and punch me in my face in my
  609. 22:41truck. And I I live in the country. I'm
  610. 22:44not the type of person that
  611. 22:46appreciates that. I you know, so I might
  612. 22:50defend myself when somebody is
  613. 22:52threatening me or I feel like my life is
  614. 22:54threatened. So, how did you defend
  615. 22:55yourself tonight? I drove off. You know,
  616. 22:58I I cuz I think she was mad that I
  617. 23:00opened my door when she came up to my
  618. 23:02door and she punched me in my face. Mhm.
  619. 23:05And what like when I was going out like
  620. 23:09it was an altercation. So, and
  621. 23:14I just defended myself. I'm not going to
  622. 23:16let somebody come up to me and hurt me
  623. 23:19and threaten me.
  624. 23:21So,
  625. 23:22I have the right to protect myself. I
  626. 23:25But you need you keep saying that, all
  627. 23:26right? Driving off is not necessarily
  628. 23:29protecting yourself. Protecting yourself
  629. 23:30that's just leaving the area, okay? How
  630. 23:33did you protect yourself? When she came
  631. 23:35up to the vehicle, I protected myself.
  632. 23:38How did you do that?
  633. 23:41I when she hit me, I I protected myself.
  634. 23:45I tried to get her away from me. Okay,
  635. 23:47so how did you try to get her away from
  636. 23:49you?
  637. 23:51I
  638. 23:52I just tried to get her away from me. I
  639. 23:53don't even know how Did you push her
  640. 23:56punch her? I didn't punch her. I know I
  641. 23:58didn't punch her. So, how did you try to
  642. 24:00get her away from you then? I was trying
  643. 24:02to I was
  644. 24:03maybe push I don't even know what I did.
  645. 24:05I was just trying to get her away from
  646. 24:06me. Just react with what you did. Like
  647. 24:09maybe it was push I don't know if it was
  648. 24:11pushing. I don't know how to I was just
  649. 24:13trying to get her away from me and she
  650. 24:15wouldn't. So, I'm
  651. 24:17Did she just eventually walk away or
  652. 24:21I I think maybe when she she did walk
  653. 24:24away that's when her mom came up to me.
  654. 24:26All I know is there was always somebody
  655. 24:28in my face. Okay. None of them was
  656. 24:30always in my face and when the light
  657. 24:32turned green, I tried to drive off.
  658. 24:35Okay.
  659. 24:36And that's the only thing you did to
  660. 24:37protect yourself?
  661. 24:41Were they outside of your car when you
  662. 24:43drove off? Like they were standing right
  663. 24:44there when you drove off? The guys were
  664. 24:46still outside of their car, yes, when I
  665. 24:48drove off when the light turned green.
  666. 24:50Okay.
  667. 24:51So, let me ask you just kind of changing
  668. 24:53directions, okay?
  669. 24:55You said you haven't known Don that
  670. 24:57long, is that correct? Not too long.
  671. 24:59Okay, what's not too long?
  672. 25:01Couple months, weeks?
  673. 25:03Few months. Few months.
  674. 25:05Do you love John?
  675. 25:09No.
  676. 25:10Okay.
  677. 25:12Are you trying to protect John?
  678. 25:15No, there's not really much to protect
  679. 25:17him from.
  680. 25:18I was protecting myself. Okay. Uh-huh.
  681. 25:21So, y'all haven't been in a relationship
  682. 25:23for 3 years? For 4 years?
  683. 25:30I've been with him Weren't there
  684. 25:31Facebook photos of both of y'all from 4
  685. 25:33years ago?
  686. 25:35I don't know.
  687. 25:36Weren't y'all last year celebrating your
  688. 25:393-year anniversary? I was in Google.
  689. 25:43Is that this dude?
  690. 25:45You told me his name was John.
  691. 25:50So, this
  692. 25:51Miss Bell? Is that Bella? Bella. Okay.
  693. 25:56I'm giving you
  694. 25:58an opportunity to be very honest with me
  695. 26:00tonight, okay?
  696. 26:02I want the whole story from start to
  697. 26:03finish what happened. John does not care
  698. 26:05what happens to you tonight.
  699. 26:07Okay? Don't forget
  700. 26:10All right, that's why I asked if you
  701. 26:11loved John cuz John doesn't seem like he
  702. 26:13seems to care about you.
  703. 26:17I need an honest from your side of the
  704. 26:19story
  705. 26:20what happened tonight.
  706. 26:21>> I told you what happened. I just
  707. 26:23defended myself.
  708. 26:25And what? She came up to my vehicle
  709. 26:28and I defended myself.
  710. 26:30That is what happened.
  711. 26:32Did you feel like your life was in
  712. 26:33danger? Yes, I did. There was four
  713. 26:35people coming out of that vehicle and I
  714. 26:38am one person one person with me.
  715. 26:41I know who who they are, what they have
  716. 26:44on them.
  717. 26:45>> Did John do anything to defend himself
  718. 26:47or you? Yes, he just defended to defend
  719. 26:51We had to defend ourselves. They were
  720. 26:52coming up to our vehicle.
  721. 26:54>> How did John defend?
  722. 26:57I I don't even know. He defended how he
  723. 26:59felt he needed to defend.
  724. 27:01I think you
  725. 27:02Just being honest with you, okay? I
  726. 27:04think you're real.
  727. 27:06And I think you're really scared to talk
  728. 27:07tonight.
  729. 27:09Okay?
  730. 27:15If you didn't do what had happened,
  731. 27:16John's already in trouble. You know
  732. 27:18that.
  733. 27:19Okay?
  734. 27:20You know that, right?
  735. 27:24I don't know.
  736. 27:25We defended ourselves.
  737. 27:27Okay, what did John do to defend? You
  738. 27:29can say I don't know. I know you know.
  739. 27:32Okay?
  740. 27:33He defended himself. How did he I do not
  741. 27:35know. We defended ourselves. Okay, and
  742. 27:36that's fine. If you felt like your life
  743. 27:38was in danger, that's okay. Okay?
  744. 27:41But how I need your honest story of what
  745. 27:43did you do to defend? What did John do
  746. 27:45to defend y'all? We defended ourselves.
  747. 27:47>> What What action did you take to defend?
  748. 27:50I don't know. I drove off.
  749. 27:52I That's all I remember is me driving
  750. 27:54off.
  751. 27:55And then there was cops.
  752. 27:58What did John do?
  753. 28:00He was He was in passenger to me. I was
  754. 28:02driving. You said John had to defend us.
  755. 28:04We had to defend ourselves.
  756. 28:06>> Okay. What action did you take to
  757. 28:08defend? Driving away is not defending
  758. 28:09yourself. That's
  759. 28:11You're removing yourself from a
  760. 28:12dangerous situation. That's not
  761. 28:13necessarily defending yourself.
  762. 28:19I'm saying when they came up to our car,
  763. 28:21we had to defend ourselves. And how did
  764. 28:23you do that?
  765. 28:25I defended myself with what I had on me.
  766. 28:28What did you have on you?
  767. 28:30Me.
  768. 28:36What What did you do? Did you push her?
  769. 28:38Did you punch her? I did not punch her.
  770. 28:41I tried to get her away from me. I don't
  771. 28:43know if I pushed her. I know I didn't
  772. 28:45swing on her. I know I didn't punch her.
  773. 28:47I tried to get her away from me. And
  774. 28:49then her mom came up to me and there was
  775. 28:50two dudes coming out of the car. There
  776. 28:52was a whole bunch of people coming out
  777. 28:54of the car.
  778. 28:56I didn't know what was going on.
  779. 29:08It's a very difficult situation when you
  780. 29:10have people coming at you. And I don't
  781. 29:12disagree. I I I don't know what they had
  782. 29:14on them. Like they were reaching for
  783. 29:16something.
  784. 29:17I didn't know what they had on them or
  785. 29:19who what type of person they were.
  786. 29:22Okay. So, obviously you felt like your
  787. 29:23life was in danger cuz from what you
  788. 29:25know they're reaching for something. And
  789. 29:27a And a
  790. 29:28a normal person thinks like well they're
  791. 29:30reaching for a gun or a knife, right?
  792. 29:33That's the realistic thing everyone
  793. 29:34thinks of.
  794. 29:38So,
  795. 29:39what you can you say I don't know I
  796. 29:42don't know. I need you to just sit there
  797. 29:44and try to remember
  798. 29:46what action did you and John take to
  799. 29:48defend yourselves?
  800. 29:58I defended myself.
  801. 30:00Was it worth killing somebody over? You
  802. 30:02know somebody died tonight. I would not
  803. 30:04know that. That's what y'all are looking
  804. 30:05at right now. So, either you're going to
  805. 30:07start telling us the truth or you're
  806. 30:09going to keep lying and dig yourself in
  807. 30:11a deeper hole. I did not I was defending
  808. 30:14myself.
  809. 30:15>> ourselves.
  810. 30:16Did she deserve to die? No. I I don't
  811. 30:19know that. Tell us what happened. Tell
  812. 30:20us about that. How did she die?
  813. 30:22I don't know. You were there.
  814. 30:27You were there.
  815. 30:29I defended myself. Somebody got out of
  816. 30:31their car coming at me. Okay. So, here
  817. 30:33here's how this flows.
  818. 30:35Okay. We have a female who's dead in the
  819. 30:37hospital.
  820. 30:39We have another female who looks like
  821. 30:41she's is to die too. That's two
  822. 30:42homicides.
  823. 30:44I need to know how did you defend
  824. 30:46yourself?
  825. 30:48I defended myself.
  826. 30:50>> Why is that?
  827. 30:52What is I defended myself?
  828. 30:55I was trying to defend How did these two
  829. 30:57females end up basically one female dead
  830. 31:00and I have another daughter who's
  831. 31:01probably about to die. I want to know
  832. 31:03what got us to that point. I think I
  833. 31:06need a lawyer.
  834. 31:08And I want my phone call, please.
  835. 31:11You can have that at the jail.
  836. 31:16Go with him now.
  837. 31:20You can bring her back.
  838. 31:32Anything else?
  839. 31:35You're just so worried you're getting
  840. 31:36charged with four counts of accessory to
  841. 31:38homicide.
  842. 31:43And one count of principal to homicide.
  843. 31:51Bela, let me check with Jeff Watson
  844. 31:53Ball. I'm not here to ask you questions
  845. 31:54or anything like that, okay? I'm just
  846. 31:56telling you what you're being charged
  847. 31:57with right now until I actually book you
  848. 31:58in and see.
  849. 31:59All right, so um before you go up to the
  850. 32:02jail,
  851. 32:03um and what was your last name, Bela?
  852. 32:05Bela. Can you spell that for me?
  853. 32:07>> B E L
  854. 32:10C C I I N N O Just like it sounds, huh?
  855. 32:16Yeah. And your first name Bela is B E L
  856. 32:18L A? It's I V I V Y
  857. 32:22B E L L A B
  858. 32:25E L L A,
  859. 32:26okay.
  860. 32:27And
  861. 32:30All right, I'm going to let you know
  862. 32:31what you're being charged with. You're
  863. 32:32being charged with one count of
  864. 32:33accessory to murder.
  865. 32:35Okay? Um
  866. 32:40accessory to the murder
  867. 32:46and three counts of accessory to
  868. 32:48attempted murder.
  869. 32:55So, I'm not going to be able to do bond
  870. 32:57until Monday?
  871. 32:59Um with these charges, you probably
  872. 33:00won't get a bond.
  873. 33:06I'm just being straight with you, okay?
  874. 33:11Do you have any other questions, by
  875. 33:12chance?
  876. 33:19I can't talk to you about the case
  877. 33:21unless you wanted to talk to the
  878. 33:23detective that was in here talking to
  879. 33:24you earlier.
  880. 33:27And um
  881. 33:29from what I heard, you live on Silver
  882. 33:30Lake Road?
  883. 33:32Homeless. Homeless, okay.
  884. 33:36Am I able to use the bathroom before
  885. 33:38We'll get somebody to come and get you
  886. 33:41to the bathroom, okay?
  887. 33:43You said they're going to throw me in
  888. 33:45Are they going to go to court tomorrow?
  889. 33:50You'll go to jail this evening and
  890. 33:52um you'll get a first appearance and
  891. 33:54um
  892. 33:56and then after that, you'll probably be
  893. 33:58in jail until
  894. 34:00the direction.
  895. 34:04I can't tell you when they I you know, I
  896. 34:06can't I don't know what your bond will
  897. 34:07be if they give you a bond or anything
  898. 34:09like that. I don't know. You know,
  899. 34:10that's
  900. 34:12totally with the judge.
  901. 34:16But from my past experience with these
  902. 34:18charges right here, your bond will be
  903. 34:20high or denied. In fact,
  904. 34:26All right.
  905. 34:29And then mean, any
  906. 34:31or anything like that?
  907. 34:41Can I get her to talk to AI? You want me
  908. 34:43to bring her back in here?
  909. 34:48Yeah. Okay.
  910. 34:49Just give me a few minutes. Um, we'll
  911. 34:51get you to the bathroom first, okay?
  912. 34:53Yes, please. Okay.
  913. 35:00Okay, then.
  914. 35:03Again, I'm Detective Joe Westfall, okay?
  915. 35:05I'm one of the detectives with the
  916. 35:07police department in Naples, sir.
  917. 35:09Um, Detective Brown asked me to come and
  918. 35:11talk to you earlier, and I know you
  919. 35:13asked for a lawyer previously, okay? And
  920. 35:17then prior to I go out the room, you
  921. 35:19said you wanted to talk to her again.
  922. 35:20Are you Are you wanting to talk to her
  923. 35:23about this case?
  924. 35:24Um, you want to talk to me, okay?
  925. 35:27Basically. All right. Um,
  926. 35:29like I said, the Miranda's read to you,
  927. 35:32um,
  928. 35:32then talked to you a little bit, and you
  929. 35:34asked for a lawyer. Are you willing to
  930. 35:35talk again?
  931. 35:37Yes. Okay. So, what I'm going to do, I'm
  932. 35:39going to read the Miranda to you again,
  933. 35:41okay?
  934. 35:42And then we'll swear you in, and then
  935. 35:44we'll go from there, okay?
  936. 35:46You um
  937. 35:48You have the right to remain silent, do
  938. 35:49you understand that? I need a verbal yes
  939. 35:51or no. I'm sorry. Um, anything you say
  940. 35:54can be used against you in court, you
  941. 35:55understand that?
  942. 35:56>> Yes. Okay. You have the right to talk to
  943. 35:58a lawyer for advice before we ask you
  944. 36:00any questions, do you understand that?
  945. 36:01>> Yes. Okay. You have the right to do have
  946. 36:03a lawyer with you during questioning, do
  947. 36:05you understand that?
  948. 36:06Okay. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one
  949. 36:09will be appointed for you before any
  950. 36:10questions, if you wish to, do you
  951. 36:12understand that? Yes. If you decide to
  952. 36:14answer questions now without a lawyer
  953. 36:15present, you have the right to stop
  954. 36:17answering at any time until you have
  955. 36:18consulted a lawyer, do you understand
  956. 36:20that?
  957. 36:21Okay. Are you willing to talk again?
  958. 36:23Yes. Okay.
  959. 36:24Um
  960. 36:26Raise Well, you can't raise your right
  961. 36:27hand. Um
  962. 36:29Do you swear to tell the truth, the
  963. 36:29whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
  964. 36:31Okay, did I hear yes? Yes. Okay.
  965. 36:34All right, well, um
  966. 36:36I heard a little bit of the conversation
  967. 36:38you was having
  968. 36:39um with the dispatcher
  969. 36:41um earlier.
  970. 36:42Um tell me
  971. 36:45what you wanted to talk about.
  972. 36:48Well, when they when they came out the
  973. 36:50car, that's when he shot at them because
  974. 36:52they came out at us. Okay, they came out
  975. 36:55at you?
  976. 36:56Okay. Well, first the passenger and then
  977. 36:59when all the other people got out,
  978. 37:00that's when he shot because they all got
  979. 37:02out towards us. Okay. Now, you
  980. 37:04understand there's a video of this whole
  981. 37:07incident? No, I didn't know. Okay. So,
  982. 37:11um now, what I saw is when he was
  983. 37:13driving around, that's when he shot. Is
  984. 37:15that
  985. 37:17accurate to what you you seen?
  986. 37:19>> No, I thought it was before. Okay. Or as
  987. 37:21we were going by, I don't know. As you
  988. 37:23were going by?
  989. 37:25Okay, did he say anything No. prior to
  990. 37:28shooting?
  991. 37:29Okay. They were coming at me. They were
  992. 37:32coming at you? Okay. They didn't get in
  993. 37:35the vehicle prior to you driving off?
  994. 37:37They didn't get in the vehicle, no.
  995. 37:39Okay. Now, I want you to think real hard
  996. 37:41about this, okay?
  997. 37:44You're behind them.
  998. 37:46Tell me from the beginning. You come up
  999. 37:47behind them.
  1000. 37:48Okay.
  1001. 37:50People get out of their their vehicle.
  1002. 37:53Am I correct? Yes. Okay. First, it was
  1003. 37:55the passenger behind the driver seat.
  1004. 37:58She got out
  1005. 37:59and came to my driver door.
  1006. 38:01>> Okay. Was that a female or a male? A
  1007. 38:03female. Okay. And she came to your
  1008. 38:05driver's door? Yes. Okay. And when I
  1009. 38:07opened the door, she punched me in my
  1010. 38:09face.
  1011. 38:09>> Okay. What was the conversation you
  1012. 38:11prior to her punching you in the face?
  1013. 38:14She was coming at me about cuz my mom
  1014. 38:16was the one driving, I guess.
  1015. 38:18So, she was upset. Yeah. What was she
  1016. 38:21saying to you? Do you remember?
  1017. 38:24I don't even know what she was saying.
  1018. 38:25She was just
  1019. 38:28All I know is something that that was
  1020. 38:30her mom. That's the only thing I know.
  1021. 38:32Okay. And she punched you in the face.
  1022. 38:34Where'd she punch you with it?
  1023. 38:36Just my
  1024. 38:38left eye. Your left eye? Okay.
  1025. 38:42And after she punched you in the face,
  1026. 38:43then what happened?
  1027. 38:45Then that's when everybody else got out
  1028. 38:47of the vehicle. Mhm.
  1029. 38:50And when they got out of the vehicle,
  1030. 38:51did they approach your vehicle?
  1031. 38:53The mom did, yes. The mom did? And the
  1032. 38:55guy they started acting like they were
  1033. 38:57going to walk towards and then they were
  1034. 39:00they got back in the vehicle.
  1035. 39:02>> They got back in their vehicle? And when
  1036. 39:04the light turned green.
  1037. 39:05>> Okay. And that's when they got back in
  1038. 39:06their vehicle.
  1039. 39:08Okay. So, after they get back in their
  1040. 39:10vehicle and the light turns green, then
  1041. 39:12what did you do?
  1042. 39:14I drove around and then that's when the
  1043. 39:16shots were already fired.
  1044. 39:19The shots were already fired or was it
  1045. 39:21being fired as you was going to buy
  1046. 39:23them?
  1047. 39:24I don't know. English. Who was shooting
  1048. 39:26those shots? John. John?
  1049. 39:29And where was he sitting?
  1050. 39:31The passenger seat.
  1051. 39:32>> The passenger seat? And you was driving,
  1052. 39:33correct? Okay. The front passenger.
  1053. 39:36Yeah. Okay.
  1054. 39:38Okay. So, after the shots were fired,
  1055. 39:42um
  1056. 39:43was there any conversation you had with
  1057. 39:45John?
  1058. 39:46No.
  1059. 39:48He wasn't yelling
  1060. 39:50at you or anything like that? No. I just
  1061. 39:53I I'm already made the turn cuz that was
  1062. 39:55the turn to go home.
  1063. 39:56>> Mhm.
  1064. 39:58And then
  1065. 39:59when I just I happened to see the police
  1066. 40:01cars in front of me. Mhm.
  1067. 40:04And when you seen the police cars in
  1068. 40:05front of you, what what was going
  1069. 40:07through your mind at that time?
  1070. 40:08I was trying to pull over to
  1071. 40:12like pull off to the side. Mhm. And that
  1072. 40:15cop, I think he thought I was trying to
  1073. 40:17just like go by him. Mhm. And we hit
  1074. 40:21each other and then my steering wheel
  1075. 40:22locked. Mhm. And I I just pressed on my
  1076. 40:25brakes. Okay.
  1077. 40:27Then
  1078. 40:28you pressed on your brakes. Did you come
  1079. 40:30to a complete stop?
  1080. 40:33I can't brought me to a stop where my
  1081. 40:35truck was right at I don't even know if
  1082. 40:37I hit that car that was right there. I
  1083. 40:40Now, did they get you
  1084. 40:41Were you They get you out of the
  1085. 40:43vehicle?
  1086. 40:44That point
  1087. 40:45>> up to the vehicle and I had my hands up.
  1088. 40:48>> Now, prior to you hitting the officer
  1089. 40:51the officer's vehicle
  1090. 40:54did you know that officers were behind
  1091. 40:56you at that time? No. I I once I heard
  1092. 40:58the cop lights, I saw him in front of
  1093. 41:00me. Mhm.
  1094. 41:02I already made I thought I was already
  1095. 41:03planning to go home and
  1096. 41:05that was the turn to go home and then
  1097. 41:07once I saw the cop car, I was already in
  1098. 41:10the parking lot. Okay.
  1099. 41:14If uh
  1100. 41:15if John was shooting to protect to
  1101. 41:17defend y'all, right? Did you Did any of
  1102. 41:20you guys call law enforcement?
  1103. 41:23It wasn't Did it seem like there was
  1104. 41:25time?
  1105. 41:28How many people were in the truck? Just
  1106. 41:30me and him.
  1107. 41:31Okay.
  1108. 41:33Just the two of you?
  1109. 41:37So, prior to John shooting at at the
  1110. 41:40vehicle, did he say anything prior to
  1111. 41:41that?
  1112. 41:44Not that I recall.
  1113. 41:47Did you have a gun?
  1114. 41:49No. You didn't have a gun in the
  1115. 41:50vehicle?
  1116. 41:53Did you know John had a gun?
  1117. 41:55No.
  1118. 41:57Did he keep the gun in your truck if
  1119. 41:59he'd been staying with you?
  1120. 42:05Yeah,
  1121. 42:06I guess I knew he had it. I just didn't
  1122. 42:08really
  1123. 42:11So
  1124. 42:13All right.
  1125. 42:14I was just saying that I didn't
  1126. 42:17Right. And there's nothing wrong with
  1127. 42:18that. That's perfectly legal to have it
  1128. 42:20for protection.
  1129. 42:21I guess the person who you knew he had a
  1130. 42:23gun and he lives with you in the truck.
  1131. 42:25So, the truck is the gun home
  1132. 42:27essentially.
  1133. 42:29Right?
  1134. 42:32Where does he usually keep the gun in
  1135. 42:34the truck?
  1136. 42:37He still
  1137. 42:38I don't know.
  1138. 42:42I wherever it's safest. He usually has
  1139. 42:45it on him.
  1140. 42:46On him?
  1141. 42:48Okay. Or home. I swear it's
  1142. 42:51not a lot of It's not the first time
  1143. 42:53people have tried to attack us.
  1144. 42:56Have you ever seen him pull a gun on
  1145. 42:58somebody else before? No.
  1146. 43:00And once they came like we never had
  1147. 43:02somebody come at me and lay their hands
  1148. 43:04on me.
  1149. 43:07So, where did he Did he have the gun on
  1150. 43:10his
  1151. 43:12uh tonight or tonight? It was in the
  1152. 43:14truck. Okay. Was it like in the center
  1153. 43:16console or
  1154. 43:18>> in the side.
  1155. 43:19Like the side of the door? Like the
  1156. 43:21seat. Okay.
  1157. 43:24Do you know what kind of gun this is or
  1158. 43:25what it looks like?
  1159. 43:28What does it look like?
  1160. 43:30It looked like a pistol.
  1161. 43:33I don't really know guns. I just know
  1162. 43:35like pistols.
  1163. 43:36>> What color was it?
  1164. 43:38Black.
  1165. 43:41So, did he after you guys were
  1166. 43:44approached on you're driving away,
  1167. 43:47when does he reach for the gun?
  1168. 43:50I don't know. I just heard shots when I
  1169. 43:53left. Now I'm sorry I didn't learn.
  1170. 43:55Okay.
  1171. 43:57Now, I want you to be truthful about
  1172. 43:59this, okay? So, when you're sitting in
  1173. 44:01the truck and then they that passenger
  1174. 44:04gets out and approaches your truck,
  1175. 44:06okay? You open the door, right?
  1176. 44:09Prior to you opening the door, did John
  1177. 44:11have a gun in his hand?
  1178. 44:13He didn't have a gun in his hand then?
  1179. 44:14You didn't remember seeing it then?
  1180. 44:17So, when you get punched in the face,
  1181. 44:19they go back to their vehicle,
  1182. 44:22when the light turns green, you get back
  1183. 44:24in the truck. Did you see John pull a
  1184. 44:26gun then?
  1185. 44:28No, I was I was I wasn't you know paying
  1186. 44:30attention to when
  1187. 44:33he pulled it. Did you hit their vehicle
  1188. 44:35when you was driving around it? No, no.
  1189. 44:39When did you first hear the shots?
  1190. 44:42When I started driving.
  1191. 44:45When you first started driving Mhm.
  1192. 44:48When you started around their vehicle,
  1193. 44:51going around their vehicle? When I
  1194. 44:53started driving, that's when I just
  1195. 44:55remember
  1196. 44:59Look, we're not trying to hit you up on
  1197. 45:00something, but we just need the truth.
  1198. 45:01We have somebody that died, okay?
  1199. 45:04We got another person that we don't know
  1200. 45:05if he's going to make it.
  1201. 45:08All right. I mean,
  1202. 45:11is he your boyfriend?
  1203. 45:14He is your boyfriend?
  1204. 45:16How long you've been together?
  1205. 45:17Not that long.
  1206. 45:19What, a few months?
  1207. 45:23Not two months,
  1208. 45:25like about a year.
  1209. 45:27Since August of last year.
  1210. 45:30Is he hot-headed? No.
  1211. 45:33He's not hot-headed? No, he's not. He's
  1212. 45:36a protector. He's a protector?
  1213. 45:40Do you think driving by a vehicle that
  1214. 45:42people are already inside their vehicle
  1215. 45:44not a threat to you at all?
  1216. 45:47And then he decides he's going to
  1217. 45:48discharge his firearm there and kill him
  1218. 45:50somebody?
  1219. 45:54Is that protecting? No, right. What do
  1220. 45:56you mean you didn't know? You sitting in
  1221. 45:58the truck driving.
  1222. 46:00You're going around a vehicle, not a
  1223. 46:03threat to you, not
  1224. 46:04at all.
  1225. 46:07They weren't a threat to you once they
  1226. 46:08got back in their vehicle.
  1227. 46:10I understand you got punched in the
  1228. 46:11face. I don't know. They I feel like
  1229. 46:13they had weapons on them there. I feel
  1230. 46:15like they were about to grab something.
  1231. 46:17How would you know they're inside their
  1232. 46:18vehicle?
  1233. 46:20I don't know. It was when they were out.
  1234. 46:23When they were out, you got punched in
  1235. 46:24the face. When you got punched in the
  1236. 46:26face, did you see a gun in their hand?
  1237. 46:27No. Okay.
  1238. 46:30The light turns green, he gets back
  1239. 46:31inside their vehicle, you decide to
  1240. 46:33drive around their vehicle, all around
  1241. 46:36their vehicle, okay?
  1242. 46:38And then you shoot at them.
  1243. 46:40Inside their vehicle.
  1244. 46:43They were inside their vehicle.
  1245. 46:49How can you say that's self-defense?
  1246. 46:57I don't know why this all happened. All
  1247. 46:58I know is what I told you. Okay.
  1248. 47:04Do you feel bad for these victims? Yes,
  1249. 47:06but
  1250. 47:08I don't even know who it was. What would
  1251. 47:10you tell the victims' family?
  1252. 47:13I don't know what to tell them.
  1253. 47:18Do you understand the situation you're
  1254. 47:20in?
  1255. 47:21I'm trying to.
  1256. 47:26All for a guy that you've only known for
  1257. 47:28a few months.
  1258. 47:31And for a person to sit there and do
  1259. 47:32what he did tonight, you can't sit here
  1260. 47:35and tell me he ain't a hothead.
  1261. 47:48You got anything else? Has he ever tried
  1262. 47:50to protect you before? You said you guys
  1263. 47:51have had to protect yourselves in the
  1264. 47:52past. What happened with those?
  1265. 47:58It's
  1266. 47:59just somebody
  1267. 48:01It was just some kind of just like, you
  1268. 48:03know,
  1269. 48:05not really enraged, but just just
  1270. 48:07somebody just being rude.
  1271. 48:09Trying to come at me and
  1272. 48:11threatening me.
  1273. 48:14Did John pull a gun on them then?
  1274. 48:17No.
  1275. 48:18I
  1276. 48:20I had um
  1277. 48:21I had a knife on me at the time.
  1278. 48:24And I pulled it and I told him to not
  1279. 48:26come near me.
  1280. 48:27What time? Where did that happen at?
  1281. 48:30It was about like
  1282. 48:31It was at a campground that we were
  1283. 48:33staying at and it was just like some
  1284. 48:37crackhead and you know,
  1285. 48:39it was I don't know. They were want They
  1286. 48:40were trying to like take my stuff
  1287. 48:42and steal from me, you know, and I
  1288. 48:47So, when these officers pulled up behind
  1289. 48:49you, did you would you assume that it
  1290. 48:52was for you? That it was for what had
  1291. 48:54just happened?
  1292. 48:55I had just thought
  1293. 48:57I don't even know. I I just remember
  1294. 48:59seeing an officer in front of me.
  1295. 49:03Okay.
  1296. 49:04Was John telling you to drive faster to
  1297. 49:06get out of here?
  1298. 49:08Not that I remember. I was just I just
  1299. 49:11made that turn cuz that's where we were
  1300. 49:13going home.
  1301. 49:14I heard the cop cars and by the time I
  1302. 49:16realized that there was one in front of
  1303. 49:17me
  1304. 49:19and
  1305. 49:21and we smashed together and my wheel
  1306. 49:23locked.
  1307. 49:27So, obviously John, you and John are
  1308. 49:29facing some probably the most serious
  1309. 49:31charges, right?
  1310. 49:35Okay.
  1311. 49:36This is obviously going to go to court,
  1312. 49:38okay?
  1313. 49:39When the judge and the attorneys and the
  1314. 49:42jury are watching this interview,
  1315. 49:44okay, cuz we're going to do search
  1316. 49:45warrants, right? We are going to dig
  1317. 49:47into your phones. We're going to dig
  1318. 49:49into your truck. We're going to dig into
  1319. 49:51you and John's past, okay?
  1320. 49:54Is any of this not true?
  1321. 49:57That you had just met John, that you
  1322. 49:58have been off and on. Because here's
  1323. 50:00what We've just been off and on for a
  1324. 50:02while now. For years or months?
  1325. 50:06Probably a few years now. Okay.
  1326. 50:08Is there anything I know specially is
  1327. 50:10that ties y'all to being together for
  1328. 50:12years? Text messages, friends, because
  1329. 50:14we're going to we we talk to everybody.
  1330. 50:16Somebody's Somebody got killed tonight.
  1331. 50:18We're going to do
  1332. 50:20Okay. Is John your only friend then?
  1333. 50:23Pretty much.
  1334. 50:24Okay.
  1335. 50:25And here's where I'm getting with this,
  1336. 50:27okay?
  1337. 50:28Here's a little bit
  1338. 50:30when you lie, obviously, right?
  1339. 50:34So when we start digging into these
  1340. 50:35things, then we can take your story
  1341. 50:37apart.
  1342. 50:38If you know you get what I'm saying?
  1343. 50:43I didn't know somebody died. So I know
  1344. 50:45you know you know you know somebody
  1345. 50:46died.
  1346. 50:48What was the conversation you and John
  1347. 50:49had in the truck?
  1348. 50:51Where did you see him pulling the gun
  1349. 50:53from?
  1350. 50:54I didn't see him.
  1351. 50:57But what did he say to you when you were
  1352. 50:58driving off?
  1353. 51:01I I don't really even know. I
  1354. 51:05When you heard the shots, you didn't say
  1355. 51:06what was that or anything like that?
  1356. 51:09Like what are you doing?
  1357. 51:11Or were you like, "Yeah, that's what I
  1358. 51:13want. Shoot him up." No, I
  1359. 51:16I don't even know.
  1360. 51:28I don't know. I just remember hearing
  1361. 51:30it. I I was always driving off and I
  1362. 51:34And then I heard cop cars and
  1363. 51:38When did you hear the cop car?
  1364. 51:40When I turned down the street.
  1365. 51:44So how come you didn't in, over and call
  1366. 51:46911 and John just shot at this car.
  1367. 51:50I don't know. It It all happened so
  1368. 51:52fast. He was Is it cuz he knew what he
  1369. 51:54knew was wrong?
  1370. 51:59Let me ask you a question. Do you think
  1371. 52:01what he did was wrong?
  1372. 52:04In any way? I don't think somebody
  1373. 52:07deserved to die. No, I just He was
  1374. 52:10protecting me. I thought he was
  1375. 52:12protecting me. But like my partner
  1376. 52:14already said, they're already back in
  1377. 52:15their vehicles.
  1378. 52:19You can no longer claim self-defense
  1379. 52:21when somebody has already left and
  1380. 52:22they're getting back in their vehicles.
  1381. 52:24Do you think what John did was wrong?
  1382. 52:29I don't know.
  1383. 52:38Do you care about this man?
  1384. 52:44Yeah.
  1385. 52:46Do you care about him enough to lie for
  1386. 52:48him? No.
  1387. 52:54I just don't know.
  1388. 52:55I was just How old are you, Belle? 21.
  1389. 52:5821.
  1390. 53:00And like I said, we're not trying to hem
  1391. 53:02you up with nothing, okay?
  1392. 53:05But looking at the whole picture,
  1393. 53:07y'all got yourself in a mess.
  1394. 53:10And all we want is the truth. And when
  1395. 53:12you go in front of a jury, like she
  1396. 53:13says, in front of a jury, judge, and
  1397. 53:15state attorney, they're going to want to
  1398. 53:17see the truth. If you're If you're
  1399. 53:19looked at as a liar, it doesn't It
  1400. 53:21doesn't go good for you, okay?
  1401. 53:24I know there was a conversation after
  1402. 53:25after he shot the gun.
  1403. 53:27He was probably telling you to keep
  1404. 53:29running when the police pulled up behind
  1405. 53:31you.
  1406. 53:33It's probably better that you were
  1407. 53:35driving cuz there's no telling what he
  1408. 53:36would have done. Because he just shot at
  1409. 53:38somebody, ain't no telling what he would
  1410. 53:39have done.
  1411. 53:43And thank God he didn't decide to start
  1412. 53:45shooting at officers cuz both both of
  1413. 53:47y'all would have been dead at this
  1414. 53:49point.
  1415. 53:59You're 21.
  1416. 54:01And you're with a guy that just killed
  1417. 54:03somebody.
  1418. 54:05And what looks bad for you is is the
  1419. 54:08fact that when police got behind you you
  1420. 54:09got going.
  1421. 54:13Were you scared of someone? Was he
  1422. 54:15telling you to keep going? What was that
  1423. 54:17conversation?
  1424. 54:18I don't remember there being a
  1425. 54:20conversation.
  1426. 54:22I just So, you wanted to run from the
  1427. 54:24police then. You wanted to leave these
  1428. 54:26people bleeding out dead and dying. So,
  1429. 54:28then what was the What made you want to
  1430. 54:30keep going?
  1431. 54:32I just don't know. I
  1432. 54:34Now, let me ask you this, okay?
  1433. 54:37We are going to go talk to John.
  1434. 54:39Okay? Now, is John going to try to
  1435. 54:41defend you as much as you're trying to
  1436. 54:43defend him at this moment?
  1437. 54:46When we throw these charges and when we
  1438. 54:48when when we throw these charges in
  1439. 54:50front of him,
  1440. 54:52you think he's going to sit there and
  1441. 54:53say,
  1442. 54:54"Oh, I was trying to get her to stop. I
  1443. 54:56was trying to do this and do that and do
  1444. 54:57this."
  1445. 54:59No, he's going to hell, no. He's going
  1446. 55:00to say she kept running.
  1447. 55:06When you see an officer in front of you,
  1448. 55:07why didn't you just stop?
  1449. 55:13No, I I I saw
  1450. 55:15>> I can tell you why. I can tell you why.
  1451. 55:17Cuz you're trying to get away.
  1452. 55:19That's why you hit his vehicle.
  1453. 55:21>> I I couldn't stop. That's why you hit
  1454. 55:24his vehicle.
  1455. 55:29That that at any point
  1456. 55:31when the officers were were after you or
  1457. 55:33whatever, coming behind you, when you
  1458. 55:35see an officer right directly in front
  1459. 55:38of you, that was a point if you needed
  1460. 55:39to stop. Would you agree?
  1461. 55:42I thought I tried. You thought you
  1462. 55:44tried. You never slowed down. You never
  1463. 55:47slowed down. What about when the
  1464. 55:49officers are chasing you around the
  1465. 55:50parking lot? Why didn't you stop then?
  1466. 55:55I I just remember seeing the one in
  1467. 55:57front of me.
  1468. 55:59Okay.
  1469. 56:00Well, here here's what we're looking at,
  1470. 56:01Bella, okay?
  1471. 56:03I This is 2025.
  1472. 56:05Almost every inch of America is covered
  1473. 56:07in a camera.
  1474. 56:09Not only that, do we have police
  1475. 56:10officers.
  1476. 56:12Not only that, we have other witnesses.
  1477. 56:14We have people that are staying in the
  1478. 56:16hotel five floors up that watched the
  1479. 56:18whole thing.
  1480. 56:20You did not want to stop for the police,
  1481. 56:21did you?
  1482. 56:23Because you know that your boyfriend had
  1483. 56:25just shot up the car.
  1484. 56:28I didn't know he killed somebody. I
  1485. 56:30didn't ask you if he killed somebody. I
  1486. 56:31didn't ask you if you knew he killed
  1487. 56:33somebody. You knew he had No, he shot up
  1488. 56:35the car. You You just admitted that.
  1489. 56:38Bella I didn't know he had shot at the
  1490. 56:41car.
  1491. 56:43Where did you think he was shooting at?
  1492. 56:45The ground or something. It didn't seem
  1493. 56:47I Okay, that's And how is that different
  1494. 56:49than him shooting at You're defending
  1495. 56:50yourself that he's shooting at the
  1496. 56:52ground. How would that defend you if he
  1497. 56:55killed him? Like the like the tires or
  1498. 56:57something so they couldn't like fault
  1499. 56:59like I thought. That's what I thought.
  1500. 57:02Okay, regardless what he shot at, okay?
  1501. 57:04We We can't unless that's what he shot
  1502. 57:05at, okay? He shot a gun, okay? You know
  1503. 57:08he shot a gun, right? Am I Am I correct?
  1504. 57:11Okay. So, you know that's against the
  1505. 57:12law. So, when you took off, you knowing
  1506. 57:15him shooting a gun is against the law,
  1507. 57:17right?
  1508. 57:19You understand that? I Yeah, I did.
  1509. 57:21Okay. So, you've got that in your head,
  1510. 57:23okay? You know your boyfriend just shot
  1511. 57:25a gun. I don't care less where where you
  1512. 57:27thought he was shooting it at, but you
  1513. 57:29know he shot a gun, right?
  1514. 57:31Okay. So, when the police got behind
  1515. 57:33you, what she's asking you when the
  1516. 57:35police got behind you, you wanted to run
  1517. 57:37because you knew he just got done
  1518. 57:39shooting a gun. It doesn't I don't care
  1519. 57:42what you thought he shot at. You ran
  1520. 57:44because he just shot his gun.
  1521. 57:48It's all on video. From the moment you
  1522. 57:51your boyfriend shot that gun killing
  1523. 57:54somebody, all the way up to the moment
  1524. 57:56you got caught, every single bit of it
  1525. 57:58is on video. So, you want to sit here
  1526. 58:01and lie that you didn't know the police
  1527. 58:03was behind you?
  1528. 58:05They was right behind you.
  1529. 58:09And then the one that was coming up in
  1530. 58:11front of you,
  1531. 58:14that's when I would have stopped.
  1532. 58:16But, you took it upon yourself to ram
  1533. 58:18him to get away.
  1534. 58:23Was John telling you to get away? Did
  1535. 58:25you want to stop and John was telling
  1536. 58:26you to keep going?
  1537. 58:30Cuz Bella, here's how the picture's
  1538. 58:31painted for me in the court right now,
  1539. 58:33okay? The picture's painted that you got
  1540. 58:36pissed off at somebody on the road.
  1541. 58:38Okay?
  1542. 58:39You and John got mad enough where John
  1543. 58:41shot up a car, even if you're saying you
  1544. 58:44oh, I didn't know he shot up a car,
  1545. 58:45regardless, you knew John had shot at
  1546. 58:47this vehicle. After John shot this
  1547. 58:49vehicle, you took off, ran from the
  1548. 58:51police officers, rammed your car into
  1549. 58:54the one of my fellow officers.
  1550. 58:57Okay? All the way away to cover you and
  1551. 58:59John. That's how the picture is painted.
  1552. 59:03That's how it's going to look.
  1553. 59:05You shot and killed somebody, tried to
  1554. 59:07get away from it, and then you tried to
  1555. 59:08ram an officer with your car.
  1556. 59:14Bella, you're 21 years old. You will
  1557. 59:16never get out of prison on these
  1558. 59:17charges.
  1559. 59:45>> Is there anything else you want to say
  1560. 59:46to us, Bella?
  1561. 59:50Okay.
  1562. 59:53Are you sorry, Bella? Yeah, I I I
  1563. 59:56I don't know. I really don't even know
  1564. 59:59what's going on right now. How do you
  1565. 1:00:00not know what's going on? I'm trying to
  1566. 1:00:02process it and
  1567. 1:00:06Well, I want you to what
  1568. 1:00:08when you get to the jail, I need you to
  1569. 1:00:10really process this whole thing.
  1570. 1:00:15Okay.
  1571. 1:00:17Cuz I'm going to tell you I'm going to
  1572. 1:00:19tell you straight up. One person's dead.
  1573. 1:00:22The other person that come and punch you
  1574. 1:00:23in the face,
  1575. 1:00:25we don't know if she's going to live
  1576. 1:00:26through tonight.
  1577. 1:00:28Okay?
  1578. 1:00:29There was other vehicles struck by him
  1579. 1:00:31and you.
  1580. 1:00:33All right. And then you ran over a
  1581. 1:00:35police officer.
  1582. 1:00:38All of this is serious stuff, okay?
  1583. 1:00:41Every bit of it serious. It's not a
  1584. 1:00:42joke. It's not a dream. It's not a
  1585. 1:00:44nightmare. It's real life right now
  1586. 1:00:47here.
  1587. 1:00:48You know? And if you're worried about
  1588. 1:00:50John, well, you don't got to worry about
  1589. 1:00:51him no more cuz you're probably never
  1590. 1:00:53going to see him again.
  1591. 1:00:57You know, all we're asking is for simple
  1592. 1:00:59truth. If I know. If he told you to keep
  1593. 1:01:01running, if he told you to keep running
  1594. 1:01:03or whatever, then it is what it is. If
  1595. 1:01:06not, if that's fine, too. You know, I'm
  1596. 1:01:08not trying to put words in your mouth.
  1597. 1:01:10All right. If you want to say here say
  1598. 1:01:12you don't remember, we're not going to
  1599. 1:01:13waste our time. We're going to leave out
  1600. 1:01:15of here. I'm going to finish eating my
  1601. 1:01:16pizza that I got in the room. It's
  1602. 1:01:17getting cold right now. Then we're going
  1603. 1:01:19to go talk to John. Then we're going to
  1604. 1:01:21see what he has to say about you, okay?
  1605. 1:01:24I think he did.
  1606. 1:01:30It was me and Lauren. I just don't know.
  1607. 1:01:32Okay.
  1608. 1:01:33I don't I don't I don't want you to say
  1609. 1:01:35probably, and I don't want you to tell
  1610. 1:01:37me what I want to hear. I just can't
  1611. 1:01:39remember.
  1612. 1:01:40>> If you don't remember, that's fine,
  1613. 1:01:41Bella. I'm not trying to put words in
  1614. 1:01:43your mouth. You can't remember, you
  1615. 1:01:44can't remember. That's fine.
  1616. 1:01:45I know everything Everything Wait. No,
  1617. 1:01:47everything's like real like I
  1618. 1:01:50Everything's going really really fast,
  1619. 1:01:52and I understand that. I understand that
  1620. 1:01:54100%, but you know, I
  1621. 1:01:57you know, just just our
  1622. 1:02:00our experience usually when a female's
  1623. 1:02:01driving, it's just got a male in the
  1624. 1:02:02backseat. He's usually hollering, "Keep
  1625. 1:02:04going. Keep going. Keep going." Okay?
  1626. 1:02:06That's just our experience. But if
  1627. 1:02:08that's you can't remember, then that's
  1628. 1:02:09fine. That's fine.
  1629. 1:02:13I don't want to put words in your mouth.
  1630. 1:02:16Huh?
  1631. 1:02:18You'll find out in the court. The driver
  1632. 1:02:20is the one that died. The one that
  1633. 1:02:21punched you in the face is the one
  1634. 1:02:22that's struggling right now to to
  1635. 1:02:24survive throughout the night.
  1636. 1:02:28Mother and daughter.
  1637. 1:02:30Mother and daughter.
  1638. 1:02:32And the one that died today, guess what?
  1639. 1:02:34Today was her birthday.
  1640. 1:02:37Today was her birthday.
  1641. 1:02:40So, happy birthday to her.
  1642. 1:02:43I don't know.
  1643. 1:02:47All right, Bella. We'll get you out of
  1644. 1:02:48here here shortly.
  1645. 1:02:50I'm so
  1646. 1:02:51sorry. Mhm. I'm so sorry. You guys
  1647. 1:02:53remember
  1648. 1:02:54anything? I don't know.
  1649. 1:02:56I'm just trying to process it all and do
  1650. 1:02:59all of this
  1651. 1:03:00trying to like
  1652. 1:03:02tell you all or nothing. I'm just trying
  1653. 1:03:04to remember what happened. I'm not
  1654. 1:03:05asking you to Bella, okay? No, I know.
  1655. 1:03:08I'm just I feel like y'all think I'm
  1656. 1:03:10lying to y'all, but I'm just not.
  1657. 1:03:12I I don't I'm just trying to remember
  1658. 1:03:14what I remember. Like I got
  1659. 1:03:16Well, forgive you a little bit and we
  1660. 1:03:18come back, you think you think really
  1661. 1:03:20hard. Okay?
  1662. 1:03:22You think really hard about what
  1663. 1:03:24happened tonight. You think really hard
  1664. 1:03:25what like Detective Westall said. Don't
  1665. 1:03:27make up stuff for us. If you really
  1666. 1:03:29can't remember, you say so.
  1667. 1:03:30>> remember it. Don't make it up. Don't
  1668. 1:03:32tell us what we want to hear. If you
  1669. 1:03:34can't remember, that's fine.
  1670. 1:03:36It's okay.
  1671. 1:03:38Everything was happening really fast and
  1672. 1:03:39I understand it 100% like I told you.
  1673. 1:03:43A lot of adrenaline is going on and so
  1674. 1:03:45what that you're not hearing a lot of
  1675. 1:03:46things, it's fine.
  1676. 1:03:50I just don't want you to make sit here
  1677. 1:03:52and think about it and make up some
  1678. 1:03:53stuff cuz you won't that you think
  1679. 1:03:55that's what we want to hear.
  1680. 1:03:56>> want to try to bring something that's
  1681. 1:03:58not true. That's fine. That's fine. I
  1682. 1:04:00know that would get me in more trouble.
  1683. 1:04:02Yeah, that's fine. Trouble that I'm
  1684. 1:04:04already in. I just Okay, that's fine.
  1685. 1:04:10That's fine. Hey, wait.
  1686. 1:04:13Maybe I'm confused. We're going to touch
  1687. 1:04:14base in a little bit, okay? Think Think
  1688. 1:04:17from start to finish what happened,
  1689. 1:04:18okay?
  1690. 1:04:20And we'll be back in just a couple
  1691. 1:04:21minutes, all right?
  1692. 1:04:29In the end, this case moved far beyond
  1693. 1:04:31the first chaotic moments on the
  1694. 1:04:32roadway.
  1695. 1:04:34What started as a confrontation between
  1696. 1:04:36people in two vehicles
  1697. 1:04:37>> [music]
  1698. 1:04:37>> became a deadly shooting that took the
  1699. 1:04:39life of Georgianna Garner,
  1700. 1:04:41left her daughter Mary Lee Lewis
  1701. 1:04:42critically injured, [music]
  1702. 1:04:44and changed multiple families forever.
  1703. 1:04:46For the surviving victims, this was not
  1704. 1:04:49just a brief encounter in traffic.
  1705. 1:04:51It became the moment that divided
  1706. 1:04:52[music] life into before and after.
  1707. 1:04:55For investigators, the case came down to
  1708. 1:04:57what happened after that confrontation,
  1709. 1:04:59the gunfire [music] that followed, the
  1710. 1:05:01pursuit from the scene, and the evidence
  1711. 1:05:03recovered along the way.
  1712. 1:05:05Prosecutors later said the firearm
  1713. 1:05:07[music] was thrown into a drainage ditch
  1714. 1:05:08during the chase, recovered by police,
  1715. 1:05:11and connected to the shooting through
  1716. 1:05:13forensic testing. Jubal John Simmons
  1717. 1:05:15[music] was ultimately found guilty of
  1718. 1:05:17second-degree murder with a firearm,
  1719. 1:05:19three counts of attempted second-degree
  1720. 1:05:21murder with a firearm, two counts of
  1721. 1:05:24shooting into an occupied vehicle,
  1722. 1:05:25[music]
  1723. 1:05:26and one count of discharging a firearm
  1724. 1:05:28from a vehicle.
  1725. 1:05:29He was sentenced to two consecutive
  1726. 1:05:31[music] life terms, along with
  1727. 1:05:33additional consecutive prison sentences.
  1728. 1:05:35As of the available custody information,
  1729. 1:05:37[music]
  1730. 1:05:38Simmons was listed in Florida Department
  1731. 1:05:40of Corrections custody. His
  1732. 1:05:41co-defendant, [music]
  1733. 1:05:43Ivy Bellet Encino, was also convicted.
  1734. 1:05:46Prosecutors said [music] she was driving
  1735. 1:05:47the truck as Simmons fired from it, and
  1736. 1:05:50she was found guilty of accessory after
  1737. 1:05:52the [music] fact charges and fleeing and
  1738. 1:05:54attempting to elude.
  1739. 1:05:56At sentencing, Encino received 15 years
  1740. 1:05:58for accessory [music] after the fact and
  1741. 1:06:0015 years for fleeing and attempting to
  1742. 1:06:02elude, with those sentences running at
  1743. 1:06:04the same time, followed by 5 years of
  1744. 1:06:06probation. But for the people who lived
  1745. 1:06:09through this case, the sentence does not
  1746. 1:06:11erase what happened on February 22nd,
  1747. 1:06:132025. [music]
  1748. 1:06:15A road rage encounter lasted only
  1749. 1:06:17moments. The consequences will last a
  1750. 1:06:19lifetime.
  1751. 1:06:21If you found this video informative,
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  1755. 1:06:28continue covering important stories like
  1756. 1:06:30this one. Thank [music] you.

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