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  1. 0:01welcome to the lecture for research
  2. 0:03methods uh be talking about
  3. 0:05correlational and quasi experimental uh
  4. 0:08research uh first of all it's important
  5. 0:10to kind of distinguish how these these
  6. 0:12types of research these
  7. 0:13research designs are different from
  8. 0:16experimental research which we've
  9. 0:18already um talked about a good bit in
  10. 0:20terms of correlation research uh it's
  11. 0:22different from experimental in terms of
  12. 0:24you don't really do anything to the
  13. 0:25participants there's no uh manipulation
  14. 0:27of an independent variable You're simply
  15. 0:29um measuring
  16. 0:32um variables traits or characteristics
  17. 0:35of your participants you're not uh doing
  18. 0:38anything to
  19. 0:40them uh in quasi exper research um
  20. 0:45things may uh be done to participants
  21. 0:48but you can't assign individuals to
  22. 0:51levels of the independent variable if
  23. 0:53this happens with quad experiment
  24. 0:55research it can also be sort of like
  25. 0:56correlational where you're not doing
  26. 0:58things like if you're looking at um
  27. 1:00difference between are there gender
  28. 1:02differences on some
  29. 1:04trait some would argue that that's quasi
  30. 1:07experimental um I would argue it's close
  31. 1:09to really correlational correlational is
  32. 1:10really when you're trying to do an
  33. 1:13experimental type thing and you're
  34. 1:15trying to causing effect but you just
  35. 1:16can't assign individuals to level to
  36. 1:18levels of the variable um for some
  37. 1:21particular
  38. 1:22reason and for both of these you cannot
  39. 1:25directly infer causation from your
  40. 1:27results all you can say is you know
  41. 1:29either there is a relationship or there
  42. 1:31is a difference between groups dep if
  43. 1:34you're doing correlational or quasi
  44. 1:38experimental a little bit uh more
  45. 1:39closely correlational research uh the
  46. 1:42goal is to identify the degree to which
  47. 1:44uh variables are related you know so you
  48. 1:47know does a person's amount of u x tell
  49. 1:51you anything about the amount of Y that
  50. 1:53they will have or show and is there a
  51. 1:55relationship between these two variables
  52. 1:57um for example is there a relationship
  53. 1:59between level of educ
  54. 2:00and
  55. 2:02income um so when you're talking about
  56. 2:05these relationships generally thing you
  57. 2:07know is it a strong relationship and if
  58. 2:10uh if you have a strong relationship
  59. 2:12then knowing a person's level on some
  60. 2:14variable and say variable X if you know
  61. 2:17that then you're confident you could
  62. 2:19predict their level on variable y right
  63. 2:22if there's a strong relationship between
  64. 2:23X and Y also if a person's level on
  65. 2:26variable X changes a particular amount
  66. 2:28then you're confident you could predict
  67. 2:30how their level on variable y would
  68. 2:32change um or would have changed as well
  69. 2:36an example would be uh if you're
  70. 2:38measuring uh intelligence get an IQ
  71. 2:40score from the the Whisk right a child
  72. 2:44measure of intelligence uh and then also
  73. 2:47looking at that same person or same
  74. 2:48group of people's IQ scores on the
  75. 2:50Woodcock Johnson just a different IQ
  76. 2:52test they're pretty similar they have
  77. 2:54people doing similar things people who
  78. 2:56score high on the Whisk will score high
  79. 2:58on the Woodcock Johnson people that
  80. 2:59score low on the Whisk will score low on
  81. 3:01the Woodcock Johnson um and these are
  82. 3:04really two different measures of the
  83. 3:05same thing so not surprising that you
  84. 3:07should expect a strong relationship
  85. 3:09between scores on those two
  86. 3:10tests uh things may be related but may
  87. 3:13not be that strong of a relationship
  88. 3:15right could have a weak relationship um
  89. 3:17this is whenever if you know a person's
  90. 3:19level on variable X and you have some
  91. 3:22idea uh what their level on variable y
  92. 3:25would be but the confidence and accuracy
  93. 3:27of that prediction is limited example be
  94. 3:30uh IQ score on the Whisk and um level of
  95. 3:33creative achievement they're somewhat
  96. 3:36related but there are plenty of really
  97. 3:37creative people that have pretty high IQ
  98. 3:40scores and some that have fairly low IQ
  99. 3:42scores there's enough of relationship
  100. 3:44there that we can say yes there is a
  101. 3:46relationship but it's not a real strong
  102. 3:48one so knowing that knowing um about one
  103. 3:51variable doesn't tell you a whole lot
  104. 3:53about um the other
  105. 3:56variable excuse me uh and then also
  106. 3:59there's possibility there could be no
  107. 4:00relationship between um two variables um
  108. 4:04so knowing a person's level in variable
  109. 4:06X doesn't tell you anything about what
  110. 4:08their level in variable y might be
  111. 4:10example would be IQ score on the Whisk
  112. 4:13and weight there's no correlation
  113. 4:16between those two variables um no
  114. 4:19differences in intelligence or
  115. 4:21systematic differences in intelligence
  116. 4:22related to differences in
  117. 4:25weight um okay when we're looking at
  118. 4:27correlation resarch
  119. 4:30uh we can look at the relationship
  120. 4:31between two variables or among multiple
  121. 4:34variables depending on the exact type of
  122. 4:36study you're looking at uh either way
  123. 4:38you're doing the variables that you're
  124. 4:40looking at can fall into one of two
  125. 4:41categories predictor variables and
  126. 4:43Criterion variables so predictor
  127. 4:46variables um this is the variable the
  128. 4:49variables you're predicting with right
  129. 4:51so let's say if you know X and you want
  130. 4:55to predict y then X is your predictor
  131. 4:58it's the thing you know predicting with
  132. 5:02uh example if you're trying to predict
  133. 5:03um which NBA team um will will win uh
  134. 5:09the championship based on the average
  135. 5:11height of players on each team so I'm
  136. 5:14trying to predict who's going to win
  137. 5:15based on height of the players so
  138. 5:18average height of the players is my
  139. 5:20predictor
  140. 5:21variable um and the Criterion variable
  141. 5:25um is the outcome you're predicting
  142. 5:28right so in the pr example which team
  143. 5:30will win that's what I'm trying to
  144. 5:32predict that's the Criterion the
  145. 5:35outcome um with correlation resarch we
  146. 5:39we're looking at um you know
  147. 5:41relationships and there are different
  148. 5:42types of relationships kind of
  149. 5:43mathematically speaking uh we can break
  150. 5:45it down into um two uh two basic types
  151. 5:49uh the most common we look at in terms
  152. 5:51of the stats that you probably are
  153. 5:53familiar with would be looking at linear
  154. 5:55relationships between uh
  155. 5:58variables um
  156. 6:00this is one thing way you think of is if
  157. 6:02you chared the relationship between two
  158. 6:03variables the relationship would look
  159. 6:05like a line right so changes in variable
  160. 6:07X will will lead to a set amount of
  161. 6:10changes in variable y right and it's
  162. 6:12always the amount of change is a
  163. 6:15constant um so you know IQ score in the
  164. 6:18Whisk and IQ score in the look like
  165. 6:19Johnson it's a linear
  166. 6:21relationship um but the might also be
  167. 6:24interested in curval linear
  168. 6:25relationships and Le at least two types
  169. 6:28of Curves we think about uh kind of an
  170. 6:30asymmetric uh curve think about one that
  171. 6:34um uh starts uh kind of flatten and gets
  172. 6:37more steep or starts Steep and then gets
  173. 6:40flatter uh when it's that either way
  174. 6:43basically um you have the changes uh
  175. 6:46well one example would be where
  176. 6:48initially small changes in X correspond
  177. 6:51to small changes in Y at low levels of X
  178. 6:54but as you get to larger levels of X
  179. 6:57then small changes in X correspond to
  180. 6:59large changes in y an example of an
  181. 7:02asymmetric curve linear relationship
  182. 7:03would be um relation between amount of
  183. 7:05stimulus and The Sensation uh it
  184. 7:08produces so this is a example from the
  185. 7:10web looking at as the stimulus increases
  186. 7:14how do you um what do you how how much
  187. 7:17do you notice the the difference right
  188. 7:21and it's not a straight linear
  189. 7:22relationship it's a curval linear
  190. 7:25relationship uh the other type of curval
  191. 7:27linear relationship
  192. 7:29would be U any type of kind of symmetric
  193. 7:32curve uh this happens when this happens
  194. 7:35the direction of the relationship
  195. 7:36changes depending on the value of x
  196. 7:39example show here is um classic one of
  197. 7:41anxiety and performance so at low levels
  198. 7:44of anxiety there's this positive
  199. 7:46relationship right where at low levels
  200. 7:47of anxiety you start to increase anxiety
  201. 7:49performance gets better but to a point
  202. 7:52then you know this kind of dimin returns
  203. 7:53where now at higher levels of anxiety as
  204. 7:56anxiety continues to increase
  205. 7:58performance then begins to
  206. 8:04decrease and depending on what type of
  207. 8:07relationship um you're looking at will
  208. 8:09impact what statistical test you use um
  209. 8:12here I kind of focus more on just linear
  210. 8:14relationships even among linear
  211. 8:15relationships there's different types of
  212. 8:17test the most common we think about
  213. 8:18would be B variate correlations right
  214. 8:20looking at the relationship between just
  215. 8:22two variables um and the type of byar
  216. 8:25correlation you use depends on what form
  217. 8:28the data in most common both variables
  218. 8:30are um continuous right when that
  219. 8:33happens use a Pierce and r u there are
  220. 8:35different correlations if your data um
  221. 8:37are ordinal um or in any other kind of
  222. 8:40format you might have different um
  223. 8:42different correlational statistics but
  224. 8:44the most common one again is that the
  225. 8:45pier and R and it generates they all
  226. 8:48generate a correlation coefficient right
  227. 8:50that R which ranges in value from -1 to
  228. 8:53one and both -1 and one represent
  229. 8:57perfect relationships right
  230. 9:00where um we have perfect predictability
  231. 9:02if we know uh there's a constant an
  232. 9:06expectable level of change uh change in
  233. 9:09X corresponds to an expectable level of
  234. 9:11change uh in y um so the two things are
  235. 9:15perfectly perfectly related as that
  236. 9:17correlation gets closer to zero away
  237. 9:20from the ends of negative 1 and one it
  238. 9:21draw us to the middle the correlation
  239. 9:24gets closer to r equal Z that indicates
  240. 9:26there's no relationship right at least
  241. 9:29no
  242. 9:30linear relationship or system there
  243. 9:32changes in one variable aren't
  244. 9:33systematically related to changes in
  245. 9:35another
  246. 9:36variable uh so looking at the
  247. 9:39correlation coefficient the sign tells
  248. 9:41you the direction of the relationship a
  249. 9:43negative correlation uh is a negative
  250. 9:46relationship uh where as values you
  251. 9:48increase on one you it decreases on the
  252. 9:51other or if you decrease on one it
  253. 9:54increases in in the other you you can
  254. 9:56look at it either way just think of as
  255. 9:58any kind of inverse
  256. 10:01relationship like um if the the amount
  257. 10:04the amount of
  258. 10:05time uh you spend uh watching TV and uh
  259. 10:09your GPA should be inversely correlated
  260. 10:13where people who watch more TV score
  261. 10:16have lower gpas and people who have
  262. 10:17lower gpas watch more TV right um and if
  263. 10:23it's a positive correlation you know
  264. 10:25above zero positive correlation that
  265. 10:27means that the co vary in the same
  266. 10:30direction so as one increases the other
  267. 10:32increases or as one decreases the other
  268. 10:34decreases so study time and GPA should
  269. 10:37be positively correlated the more you
  270. 10:39study the higher the GPA the less you
  271. 10:41study the lower the
  272. 10:43GPA so the sign tells you the direction
  273. 10:46the further away it gets from zero
  274. 10:49um the the stronger the relationship in
  275. 10:52terms of kind of really quantifying how
  276. 10:55strong the relationship is we look at
  277. 10:57something called the coefficient of
  278. 10:58determin ation um which for this is just
  279. 11:02the square of the R so if you have a
  280. 11:03correlation of .5 the coefficient
  281. 11:06ofation is .5 * .5 which is equal to
  282. 11:090.25 and that's helpful because the two
  283. 11:12things have a correlation of
  284. 11:130.5 the coefficient termination is 0.25
  285. 11:17which is 25% right if we convert it to a
  286. 11:20percentile and that's significant
  287. 11:22because with a correlation of 0.5 that
  288. 11:24means that the variability in X accounts
  289. 11:28for 25 5% of the variability in W so if
  290. 11:32two things are perfectly correlated
  291. 11:33correlation of one or 1 the coefficient
  292. 11:36determination is one and you can account
  293. 11:39for all the variability in X with the
  294. 11:41variability in y and really that only
  295. 11:43happens if you're measuring the exact
  296. 11:45same thing two different ways like
  297. 11:46you're measuring uh height using
  298. 11:48centimeters and height using inches as
  299. 11:51long as you're measuring accurately
  300. 11:53those things those two sets of
  301. 11:54measurements will have uh r equal um 1.0
  302. 11:59correlation the variability uh in one
  303. 12:02group in height in inches is the same as
  304. 12:04the variability in that group in um
  305. 12:09ctim um okay so pretty straightforward
  306. 12:12for for B correlations uh and there's
  307. 12:14some other types of correlations we
  308. 12:15won't go into right now but the other
  309. 12:17kind of big group of tests uh would be
  310. 12:20um different types of regression
  311. 12:22multiple regression uh this is whenever
  312. 12:24you want to look at um multiple
  313. 12:27predictors how they relate to
  314. 12:29uh as they relate to each other how they
  315. 12:32predict some
  316. 12:34criteria uh when you're looking at
  317. 12:36multiple aggression uh it'll generate
  318. 12:38these things called beta weights which
  319. 12:40are conceptually like little
  320. 12:41correlations right for each predictor in
  321. 12:43the Criterion um separately and doing
  322. 12:46multiple regression looking at the data
  323. 12:48weights you can tell which predictor has
  324. 12:49the strongest relationship with the
  325. 12:51Criterion uh and you can see how well uh
  326. 12:55prediction of the Criterion can be
  327. 12:57improved by adding or deleting
  328. 12:59predictors right so if you're saying
  329. 13:01trying to figure out okay what predicts
  330. 13:03suicide uh suicide um suicidal actions
  331. 13:08and you have all these variables you can
  332. 13:09put them all on the multiple regession
  333. 13:10and figure out okay all these 10
  334. 13:13variables it's significant ression
  335. 13:14that's great but really I predict just
  336. 13:16as well with five of those variables as
  337. 13:19with all 10 so in real world sense you
  338. 13:21say okay I'm I'm only going to ask
  339. 13:23questions about those five variables and
  340. 13:24not waste the time with the others
  341. 13:26because they don't add anything to the
  342. 13:27predictive validity and that's something
  343. 13:29that multiple pression uh can do for you
  344. 13:31is tell you what things um are needed to
  345. 13:33predict some Criterion
  346. 13:36right excuse me okay um so when looking
  347. 13:41at the results of your statistical test
  348. 13:42you're always as we've talked about
  349. 13:44before looking for statistical
  350. 13:46significance uh and sometimes you won't
  351. 13:48find statistical significance you won't
  352. 13:50find kind of mathematical evidence for
  353. 13:53relationship you won't find a
  354. 13:54significant correlation or a significant
  355. 13:57um regression but in reality there is a
  356. 14:00relationship present and that can happen
  357. 14:02uh for a variety of
  358. 14:04reasons uh one of the big ones is a
  359. 14:07truncated range this has to do uh
  360. 14:09usually with how you selected your
  361. 14:11sample um so like if we say um does uh
  362. 14:16GRE predict um how well you do in grad
  363. 14:20school and the answer for most is no and
  364. 14:25for uh for you all and for most people
  365. 14:27in graduate school no it doesn't predict
  366. 14:30well at
  367. 14:31all but and here's where it get the
  368. 14:34beginning if we gave the GRE to
  369. 14:37everybody children older adults all
  370. 14:41kinds of people it would predict pretty
  371. 14:43well who would do well in uh in grad
  372. 14:46school but the thing is people who want
  373. 14:49to go to grad school who have taken a
  374. 14:50lot of Under courses who know a lot of
  375. 14:52stuff already are the only ones that
  376. 14:54take the gr so you have this trunk head
  377. 14:56you're looking at only one portion of
  378. 14:58the people in terms of academic skills
  379. 15:00and knowledge and all these things
  380. 15:02you're restricting the range this trun
  381. 15:03headed range of individuals and you're
  382. 15:06trying to predict GPA in grad school
  383. 15:08with this test score and it doesn't work
  384. 15:10for that group if we had put everybody
  385. 15:12in there and everybody had gone to grad
  386. 15:14school and had gotten the GPA then yeah
  387. 15:16it it would have a significant uh
  388. 15:17correlation but for graduate students it
  389. 15:20doesn't predict well because of the
  390. 15:22truncated
  391. 15:24range
  392. 15:25um an even kind of maybe more obvious
  393. 15:27example um
  394. 15:30uh I looked at a measure of aggression
  395. 15:33in the number of times uh you've been
  396. 15:37arrested uh most people say yeah that
  397. 15:40probably that makes sense that more
  398. 15:41arrested people probably get in trouble
  399. 15:43with law more often and more likely to
  400. 15:45get arrested probably not a big
  401. 15:46correlation but big enough sample I
  402. 15:48could probably find a small small
  403. 15:51correlation if I looked at just the
  404. 15:53people in this class probably wouldn't
  405. 15:55find that because again Trump had range
  406. 15:57and even more than that i' probably have
  407. 15:59no
  408. 16:00variability probably in this class um
  409. 16:04nobody or very few people have been
  410. 16:06arrested at least for violent crimes uh
  411. 16:09let's hope um and I can't find a
  412. 16:12correlation if there's no variability if
  413. 16:13everybody is the same on either one of
  414. 16:15the variables you're not going to find a
  415. 16:17significant correlation you can't
  416. 16:18predict variability with no variability
  417. 16:21so you have to have uh some diversity in
  418. 16:23your sample on the variable you're
  419. 16:24looking at to find significance if
  420. 16:26everybody's at the same IQ level and
  421. 16:28you're trying to predict something with
  422. 16:29IQ even if there is a relationship
  423. 16:31between those two variables you're not
  424. 16:33going to find it if there's no
  425. 16:34variability you've got to have
  426. 16:35variability in both of your variables to
  427. 16:37find any kind of relationship okay so
  428. 16:40you've got to have um a wide range of
  429. 16:42people and you have to have variability
  430. 16:44in both of the variables that you're
  431. 16:46you're looking
  432. 16:47at uh and then thirdly you might be
  433. 16:50looking at the wrong type of
  434. 16:51relationship
  435. 16:55so uh
  436. 16:59let's say you're looking at uh the
  437. 17:00relationship between um uh climate
  438. 17:04between heat uh you how hot it's outside
  439. 17:07and aggression and you get uh a wide
  440. 17:09range um of temperatures um from very
  441. 17:13hot to very cold and you get a wide
  442. 17:16large population and you find zero
  443. 17:20correlation could happen if you're
  444. 17:22looking with just kind of a regular
  445. 17:24Pierce and R linear relationship type
  446. 17:26thing because
  447. 17:29the relationship between heat and
  448. 17:30aggression seems to be curol linear
  449. 17:32right so aggression goes up as it gets
  450. 17:34hotter but then when it gets to a
  451. 17:36certain amount of heat aggression
  452. 17:38aggressive acts start to come down and
  453. 17:39it's too hot to go out and get into
  454. 17:41fights and because it goes up and down
  455. 17:45when you look at it with a in a linear
  456. 17:47way it's going to cut right across the
  457. 17:49middle of that curve and look like a
  458. 17:50correlation of zero same thing the other
  459. 17:53way if you're looking for a curve linear
  460. 17:54relationship but the actual relationship
  461. 17:55is linear you won't find simp results
  462. 17:57either so you want to make sure you're
  463. 17:59looking at the right type of
  464. 18:02relationship um okay so with uh
  465. 18:06correlational
  466. 18:09research
  467. 18:11um we we've got some limitations in
  468. 18:13terms of what we can uh conclude right
  469. 18:16we can't infer causality because it's
  470. 18:18not an experiment and because we we're
  471. 18:20kind of missing that piece and we're not
  472. 18:22assigning people to groups we're not
  473. 18:23doing stuff to people the importance of
  474. 18:25measurement validity
  475. 18:27really um increases right because this
  476. 18:29is where you can exert some uh some
  477. 18:32control and some uh some skill in
  478. 18:34designing study to make sure that you're
  479. 18:36measuring what you say you're measuring
  480. 18:38because what you're able to conclude
  481. 18:39about these about a relationship between
  482. 18:41variables hinges almost entirely on how
  483. 18:44you measure those variables right so
  484. 18:47figuring out how to measure something
  485. 18:48really well and really accurately with
  486. 18:50high with a high level of construct
  487. 18:51validity becomes very very important
  488. 18:54when doing correlational research
  489. 18:58so we know we can infer a causation well
  490. 19:01why not as you I'm sure have heard
  491. 19:04before but I'll just iterate one more
  492. 19:06time uh two main reasons directionality
  493. 19:09right if there's a correlation between
  494. 19:11variables A and B are are related we
  495. 19:13don't know if a caused b or B caused a
  496. 19:16right so if we find a correlation
  497. 19:18between um sun exposure and mood where
  498. 19:22more sun exposure is associated with
  499. 19:24more positive
  500. 19:25mood okay well is it that being out in
  501. 19:28the sun makes people feel better or is
  502. 19:30that when people feel better they're
  503. 19:31more likely to go out and be in the
  504. 19:33sun people who are depressed stay home
  505. 19:36in the dark we don't know which variable
  506. 19:38which way the the the flow of causality
  507. 19:42goes if we didn't assign people to go
  508. 19:44outside or not go outside right we're do
  509. 19:46a correlation we're asking people hey
  510. 19:48how much have you gone outside what's
  511. 19:50your mood like if we're just asking
  512. 19:51people stuff we're not manipulating
  513. 19:52anything then we don't know about the
  514. 19:55direction of the causal
  515. 19:57relationship uh the other day would be
  516. 19:59the third variable where if there's a
  517. 20:01correlation between A and B it could be
  518. 20:04that it's explained by some C
  519. 20:06relationship where a causes C which
  520. 20:09causes B um and the example I always
  521. 20:12cite is that there is a correlation
  522. 20:14between a number of asay in people's
  523. 20:17houses and um likelihood of getting
  524. 20:20cancer and having asay doesn't cause
  525. 20:23cancer but asays are associated with
  526. 20:25smoking and smoking smoking is
  527. 20:27associated in a causal way with cancer
  528. 20:30so there's that third variable that
  529. 20:31explains the relationship between
  530. 20:33between two other
  531. 20:37variables so if it can't you can't infer
  532. 20:39a causation well why would you use it
  533. 20:41why wouldn't you just do everything uh
  534. 20:44experimental uh well lots of reasons one
  535. 20:47would be you might be interested in
  536. 20:49multiple levels of a variable right so
  537. 20:53uh in an
  538. 20:54experiment um think about like a a drug
  539. 20:57study we we do uh with the drug without
  540. 21:00the drug that's two groups well say I
  541. 21:02know I want to know about um how much of
  542. 21:04the drug affects people well I could do
  543. 21:07okay um no drug low dose high dose now
  544. 21:10I've got to have a certain number of
  545. 21:11people in each of those groups right and
  546. 21:13as I well I want to do no drug really
  547. 21:16low slightly low medium slightly big
  548. 21:19really big the more kind of I divide it
  549. 21:21up the more people I have to having
  550. 21:22groups to maintain statistical power and
  551. 21:25the more tests I'll be doing to compare
  552. 21:27group a to Group B to group C Group D so
  553. 21:29on and so forth so if I really want to
  554. 21:31know about well at all levels of the
  555. 21:33drug people at really high slight Less
  556. 21:36in that what's what's the relationship
  557. 21:39with these symptoms it might make more
  558. 21:42sense to do a correlational study where
  559. 21:44I just look at how much of the drug
  560. 21:45people are taking and what their
  561. 21:47symptoms are like and then I get all
  562. 21:49kinds of variability uh and see if there
  563. 21:51is any kind of linear consistent
  564. 21:53relationship and I might find that
  565. 21:55there's not um a linear Rel maybe it's
  566. 21:57this kind of step function where uh
  567. 22:00between 0 and 10 mg there's no uh no
  568. 22:05effect then between 10 and 20 everybody
  569. 22:07in that group has the same amount of
  570. 22:09symptoms maybe maybe not but looking at
  571. 22:11the correlation I can find that I can
  572. 22:12find if it is is this weird kind of Step
  573. 22:14thing like looking graphically at the
  574. 22:16data or is the smooth linear function or
  575. 22:18it even a curv a linear
  576. 22:21relationship um so I might be interested
  577. 22:23in multiple levels of the variable um
  578. 22:25that I'm I'm interested in um sometimes
  579. 22:28times I just can't uh manipulate the the
  580. 22:32independent variable uh for ethical or
  581. 22:34or practical U
  582. 22:36reasons right if I want to know uh the
  583. 22:41relationship between um well uh
  584. 22:45infidelity repeated infidelities and um
  585. 22:48partner uh
  586. 22:50violence I can't go out and tell people
  587. 22:52okay I need you to cheat on your spouse
  588. 22:54uh six times I need you to cheat on your
  589. 22:56spouse three times I need you to cheat
  590. 22:58your spouse zero times and I want to see
  591. 23:00how often um partner violence occurs in
  592. 23:02your relationship right can't can't do
  593. 23:04that but I can go out and I can give
  594. 23:06service people just measure how
  595. 23:08frequently they um cheated on their
  596. 23:10partner and I can measure I can ask them
  597. 23:12how frequently they engaged in or were
  598. 23:15victims of partner
  599. 23:18violence excuse me and then um sometimes
  600. 23:22I don't want to manipulate an invariable
  601. 23:25or I don't want high levels of
  602. 23:26experimental control right maybe I want
  603. 23:28a more naturalistic design I want to see
  604. 23:31what happens in a natural setting right
  605. 23:36um you know this is what I really I'm
  606. 23:38maybe focusing more on external validity
  607. 23:40and not that concerned with internal
  608. 23:42validity maybe i' they've already
  609. 23:44established that you know a can cause B
  610. 23:46and I want to find if it happens in the
  611. 23:48real world right people found okay well
  612. 23:50um this kind of a silly example but um
  613. 23:53people run faster uh when being chased
  614. 23:57uh by a bigger bear
  615. 23:58right and they found that in the lab
  616. 24:00setting my show people pictures of bears
  617. 24:02and measuring the heart rate and they
  618. 24:03kind of extrapolate from that well you
  619. 24:05probably run faster but would you really
  620. 24:08is that higher heart rate really
  621. 24:09correspond to faster running or not well
  622. 24:12one one way to do it I could go out and
  623. 24:14watch people that come across bears and
  624. 24:17again ethically I can't uh um and it
  625. 24:19wouldn't be realistic to tell people
  626. 24:21okay you're going to go on the forest
  627. 24:23and there's going to be a bear I'm going
  628. 24:24to watch how fast you run that's not
  629. 24:26real world real world would be watching
  630. 24:29campers and whenever a bear comes up the
  631. 24:31person starts to run measure how fast
  632. 24:33they run and measure how big the bear is
  633. 24:35and now I've got a very naturalistic
  634. 24:37design and I can see um if that kind of
  635. 24:40lab finding really does generalize to uh
  636. 24:43the real world okay silly example but
  637. 24:47anyway U quasi experimental research um
  638. 24:52similar in many ways but also maybe a
  639. 24:54bit different uh its goal broadly um
  640. 24:57stated is to identify group
  641. 25:00differences right so um are men and
  642. 25:03women different on something
  643. 25:06are uh people who
  644. 25:08have previous military experience
  645. 25:11different from people who don't have
  646. 25:12previous military experience right where
  647. 25:14again I can't assign people to one group
  648. 25:17or the other but I I want to know these
  649. 25:18groups uh are
  650. 25:20different uh now with some quasi resarch
  651. 25:25the goal is to examine some sort of
  652. 25:27cause effect relationship where you want
  653. 25:29to exam cause and effect but you can't
  654. 25:31really do it uh in the same way as you
  655. 25:33would with an
  656. 25:35experiment um so you have to be cautious
  657. 25:38about how you report results of a quas
  658. 25:40experimental study but to make uh your
  659. 25:44argument for a cause VOR relationship
  660. 25:46stronger there's some things uh you can
  661. 25:48do right you exert as much experimental
  662. 25:50control as possible obviously then the
  663. 25:52other big thing is to measure relevant
  664. 25:54variables right so
  665. 25:56um if you have
  666. 25:59um two you want to compare two treatment
  667. 26:03groups right uh people that uh go to AA
  668. 26:07and people that go to um a a treatment
  669. 26:10program without any spiritual
  670. 26:12component and you can't if you can't
  671. 26:15assign people to go to AA or not go to
  672. 26:17AA right you you're just looking at
  673. 26:20these existing groups and it's a quasi
  674. 26:21experimental study and you and you want
  675. 26:24to uh argue maybe that there's some
  676. 26:26effect of the spirit component of AA
  677. 26:29these people will be different after
  678. 26:31doing their group who did some other
  679. 26:33group that didn't have a spiritual
  680. 26:34component so what you have to do is
  681. 26:35anticipate what people might say about
  682. 26:38that difference so if you found the
  683. 26:40groups different and you said oh it's
  684. 26:41because the spiritual component other
  685. 26:44people say well yeah but U maybe the
  686. 26:47people that went to
  687. 26:49AA um were of higher SCS or lower SCS
  688. 26:53people went to the other group right so
  689. 26:54you try to anticipate any kind of
  690. 26:56relevant variables that people might say
  691. 26:57could explain your group difference and
  692. 26:59you measure those and you try to
  693. 27:01establish that your two groups are
  694. 27:03equivalent um before you measure the
  695. 27:05dependent variable because that's the
  696. 27:07whole uh the one of the main goals of
  697. 27:11assigning individuals to levels of the
  698. 27:12infinite variable is to
  699. 27:14establish equivalency of groups before
  700. 27:17the intervention that way after the
  701. 27:19intervention is done if they're
  702. 27:20different it's because of the
  703. 27:22intervention not because of some
  704. 27:23pre-existing difference so measure any
  705. 27:25kind of relevant anything that might be
  706. 27:26relevant um pre-existing differences
  707. 27:29that people would try to uh criticize
  708. 27:31your study with and then you would say
  709. 27:32oh yeah well it could be but these
  710. 27:34groups were actually exactly the same on
  711. 27:36that
  712. 27:38variable excuse me
  713. 27:44um okay uh one other thing with the
  714. 27:48Quasi experimental uh
  715. 27:50research uh statistically uh very
  716. 27:53similar to um experimental studies right
  717. 27:56so uh frequently the exact same stuff so
  718. 27:59if you're looking at you know three
  719. 28:01groups uh you're going to be using an
  720. 28:02anova if it's two groups you probably be
  721. 28:04doing a T Test um if it's just one point
  722. 28:07in time all
  723. 28:10right um which can be confusing because
  724. 28:12then you think okay um I'm comparing
  725. 28:14these two groups using a T Test uh and
  726. 28:17therefore um you know I'm
  727. 28:19comparing may this AA group to this
  728. 28:21nonaa group do a test and okay then
  729. 28:25clearly um the spiritual a caused this
  730. 28:28difference you can't say that you may be
  731. 28:30tempted to say that because you use a t
  732. 28:31test and you think oh T Test is
  733. 28:32causation no all it is is a group
  734. 28:35difference then you can try to make the
  735. 28:37theoretical kind of rational argument
  736. 28:39for why that difference uh occurred and
  737. 28:42your argum probably be for some cause of
  738. 28:44relationship but you have to be very
  739. 28:46careful and justifying that and the data
  740. 28:49don't justify that you have to kind of
  741. 28:51rationally justify it based on other
  742. 28:53data and other kind of um theoretical um
  743. 28:57arguments
  744. 28:58okay uh so correlational quas quasi
  745. 29:01experiment
  746. 29:02research um probably more commonly used
  747. 29:07uh in our field than uh experimental
  748. 29:09research just because it's hard to
  749. 29:10assign people to groups and doing doing
  750. 29:12clinical work um so important to to know
  751. 29:14about these these designs uh and the
  752. 29:18thing to keep in mind is just because
  753. 29:19it's not experimental doesn't mean that
  754. 29:22you have you can forget about all the
  755. 29:23stuff we talked about with experiments
  756. 29:24in terms of um
  757. 29:28um uh uh focusing on uh validity and
  758. 29:32doing things the right way to uh ensure
  759. 29:35that you're making valid conclusions
  760. 29:37draw you can draw valid conclusions from
  761. 29:39your results all those things still
  762. 29:42apply um to both quas exp and
  763. 29:44correlational research okay take

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