RM lecture correlational and quasi experimental research with narration — Transcript
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- 0:01welcome to the lecture for research
- 0:03methods uh be talking about
- 0:05correlational and quasi experimental uh
- 0:08research uh first of all it's important
- 0:10to kind of distinguish how these these
- 0:12types of research these
- 0:13research designs are different from
- 0:16experimental research which we've
- 0:18already um talked about a good bit in
- 0:20terms of correlation research uh it's
- 0:22different from experimental in terms of
- 0:24you don't really do anything to the
- 0:25participants there's no uh manipulation
- 0:27of an independent variable You're simply
- 0:29um measuring
- 0:32um variables traits or characteristics
- 0:35of your participants you're not uh doing
- 0:38anything to
- 0:40them uh in quasi exper research um
- 0:45things may uh be done to participants
- 0:48but you can't assign individuals to
- 0:51levels of the independent variable if
- 0:53this happens with quad experiment
- 0:55research it can also be sort of like
- 0:56correlational where you're not doing
- 0:58things like if you're looking at um
- 1:00difference between are there gender
- 1:02differences on some
- 1:04trait some would argue that that's quasi
- 1:07experimental um I would argue it's close
- 1:09to really correlational correlational is
- 1:10really when you're trying to do an
- 1:13experimental type thing and you're
- 1:15trying to causing effect but you just
- 1:16can't assign individuals to level to
- 1:18levels of the variable um for some
- 1:21particular
- 1:22reason and for both of these you cannot
- 1:25directly infer causation from your
- 1:27results all you can say is you know
- 1:29either there is a relationship or there
- 1:31is a difference between groups dep if
- 1:34you're doing correlational or quasi
- 1:38experimental a little bit uh more
- 1:39closely correlational research uh the
- 1:42goal is to identify the degree to which
- 1:44uh variables are related you know so you
- 1:47know does a person's amount of u x tell
- 1:51you anything about the amount of Y that
- 1:53they will have or show and is there a
- 1:55relationship between these two variables
- 1:57um for example is there a relationship
- 1:59between level of educ
- 2:00and
- 2:02income um so when you're talking about
- 2:05these relationships generally thing you
- 2:07know is it a strong relationship and if
- 2:10uh if you have a strong relationship
- 2:12then knowing a person's level on some
- 2:14variable and say variable X if you know
- 2:17that then you're confident you could
- 2:19predict their level on variable y right
- 2:22if there's a strong relationship between
- 2:23X and Y also if a person's level on
- 2:26variable X changes a particular amount
- 2:28then you're confident you could predict
- 2:30how their level on variable y would
- 2:32change um or would have changed as well
- 2:36an example would be uh if you're
- 2:38measuring uh intelligence get an IQ
- 2:40score from the the Whisk right a child
- 2:44measure of intelligence uh and then also
- 2:47looking at that same person or same
- 2:48group of people's IQ scores on the
- 2:50Woodcock Johnson just a different IQ
- 2:52test they're pretty similar they have
- 2:54people doing similar things people who
- 2:56score high on the Whisk will score high
- 2:58on the Woodcock Johnson people that
- 2:59score low on the Whisk will score low on
- 3:01the Woodcock Johnson um and these are
- 3:04really two different measures of the
- 3:05same thing so not surprising that you
- 3:07should expect a strong relationship
- 3:09between scores on those two
- 3:10tests uh things may be related but may
- 3:13not be that strong of a relationship
- 3:15right could have a weak relationship um
- 3:17this is whenever if you know a person's
- 3:19level on variable X and you have some
- 3:22idea uh what their level on variable y
- 3:25would be but the confidence and accuracy
- 3:27of that prediction is limited example be
- 3:30uh IQ score on the Whisk and um level of
- 3:33creative achievement they're somewhat
- 3:36related but there are plenty of really
- 3:37creative people that have pretty high IQ
- 3:40scores and some that have fairly low IQ
- 3:42scores there's enough of relationship
- 3:44there that we can say yes there is a
- 3:46relationship but it's not a real strong
- 3:48one so knowing that knowing um about one
- 3:51variable doesn't tell you a whole lot
- 3:53about um the other
- 3:56variable excuse me uh and then also
- 3:59there's possibility there could be no
- 4:00relationship between um two variables um
- 4:04so knowing a person's level in variable
- 4:06X doesn't tell you anything about what
- 4:08their level in variable y might be
- 4:10example would be IQ score on the Whisk
- 4:13and weight there's no correlation
- 4:16between those two variables um no
- 4:19differences in intelligence or
- 4:21systematic differences in intelligence
- 4:22related to differences in
- 4:25weight um okay when we're looking at
- 4:27correlation resarch
- 4:30uh we can look at the relationship
- 4:31between two variables or among multiple
- 4:34variables depending on the exact type of
- 4:36study you're looking at uh either way
- 4:38you're doing the variables that you're
- 4:40looking at can fall into one of two
- 4:41categories predictor variables and
- 4:43Criterion variables so predictor
- 4:46variables um this is the variable the
- 4:49variables you're predicting with right
- 4:51so let's say if you know X and you want
- 4:55to predict y then X is your predictor
- 4:58it's the thing you know predicting with
- 5:02uh example if you're trying to predict
- 5:03um which NBA team um will will win uh
- 5:09the championship based on the average
- 5:11height of players on each team so I'm
- 5:14trying to predict who's going to win
- 5:15based on height of the players so
- 5:18average height of the players is my
- 5:20predictor
- 5:21variable um and the Criterion variable
- 5:25um is the outcome you're predicting
- 5:28right so in the pr example which team
- 5:30will win that's what I'm trying to
- 5:32predict that's the Criterion the
- 5:35outcome um with correlation resarch we
- 5:39we're looking at um you know
- 5:41relationships and there are different
- 5:42types of relationships kind of
- 5:43mathematically speaking uh we can break
- 5:45it down into um two uh two basic types
- 5:49uh the most common we look at in terms
- 5:51of the stats that you probably are
- 5:53familiar with would be looking at linear
- 5:55relationships between uh
- 5:58variables um
- 6:00this is one thing way you think of is if
- 6:02you chared the relationship between two
- 6:03variables the relationship would look
- 6:05like a line right so changes in variable
- 6:07X will will lead to a set amount of
- 6:10changes in variable y right and it's
- 6:12always the amount of change is a
- 6:15constant um so you know IQ score in the
- 6:18Whisk and IQ score in the look like
- 6:19Johnson it's a linear
- 6:21relationship um but the might also be
- 6:24interested in curval linear
- 6:25relationships and Le at least two types
- 6:28of Curves we think about uh kind of an
- 6:30asymmetric uh curve think about one that
- 6:34um uh starts uh kind of flatten and gets
- 6:37more steep or starts Steep and then gets
- 6:40flatter uh when it's that either way
- 6:43basically um you have the changes uh
- 6:46well one example would be where
- 6:48initially small changes in X correspond
- 6:51to small changes in Y at low levels of X
- 6:54but as you get to larger levels of X
- 6:57then small changes in X correspond to
- 6:59large changes in y an example of an
- 7:02asymmetric curve linear relationship
- 7:03would be um relation between amount of
- 7:05stimulus and The Sensation uh it
- 7:08produces so this is a example from the
- 7:10web looking at as the stimulus increases
- 7:14how do you um what do you how how much
- 7:17do you notice the the difference right
- 7:21and it's not a straight linear
- 7:22relationship it's a curval linear
- 7:25relationship uh the other type of curval
- 7:27linear relationship
- 7:29would be U any type of kind of symmetric
- 7:32curve uh this happens when this happens
- 7:35the direction of the relationship
- 7:36changes depending on the value of x
- 7:39example show here is um classic one of
- 7:41anxiety and performance so at low levels
- 7:44of anxiety there's this positive
- 7:46relationship right where at low levels
- 7:47of anxiety you start to increase anxiety
- 7:49performance gets better but to a point
- 7:52then you know this kind of dimin returns
- 7:53where now at higher levels of anxiety as
- 7:56anxiety continues to increase
- 7:58performance then begins to
- 8:04decrease and depending on what type of
- 8:07relationship um you're looking at will
- 8:09impact what statistical test you use um
- 8:12here I kind of focus more on just linear
- 8:14relationships even among linear
- 8:15relationships there's different types of
- 8:17test the most common we think about
- 8:18would be B variate correlations right
- 8:20looking at the relationship between just
- 8:22two variables um and the type of byar
- 8:25correlation you use depends on what form
- 8:28the data in most common both variables
- 8:30are um continuous right when that
- 8:33happens use a Pierce and r u there are
- 8:35different correlations if your data um
- 8:37are ordinal um or in any other kind of
- 8:40format you might have different um
- 8:42different correlational statistics but
- 8:44the most common one again is that the
- 8:45pier and R and it generates they all
- 8:48generate a correlation coefficient right
- 8:50that R which ranges in value from -1 to
- 8:53one and both -1 and one represent
- 8:57perfect relationships right
- 9:00where um we have perfect predictability
- 9:02if we know uh there's a constant an
- 9:06expectable level of change uh change in
- 9:09X corresponds to an expectable level of
- 9:11change uh in y um so the two things are
- 9:15perfectly perfectly related as that
- 9:17correlation gets closer to zero away
- 9:20from the ends of negative 1 and one it
- 9:21draw us to the middle the correlation
- 9:24gets closer to r equal Z that indicates
- 9:26there's no relationship right at least
- 9:29no
- 9:30linear relationship or system there
- 9:32changes in one variable aren't
- 9:33systematically related to changes in
- 9:35another
- 9:36variable uh so looking at the
- 9:39correlation coefficient the sign tells
- 9:41you the direction of the relationship a
- 9:43negative correlation uh is a negative
- 9:46relationship uh where as values you
- 9:48increase on one you it decreases on the
- 9:51other or if you decrease on one it
- 9:54increases in in the other you you can
- 9:56look at it either way just think of as
- 9:58any kind of inverse
- 10:01relationship like um if the the amount
- 10:04the amount of
- 10:05time uh you spend uh watching TV and uh
- 10:09your GPA should be inversely correlated
- 10:13where people who watch more TV score
- 10:16have lower gpas and people who have
- 10:17lower gpas watch more TV right um and if
- 10:23it's a positive correlation you know
- 10:25above zero positive correlation that
- 10:27means that the co vary in the same
- 10:30direction so as one increases the other
- 10:32increases or as one decreases the other
- 10:34decreases so study time and GPA should
- 10:37be positively correlated the more you
- 10:39study the higher the GPA the less you
- 10:41study the lower the
- 10:43GPA so the sign tells you the direction
- 10:46the further away it gets from zero
- 10:49um the the stronger the relationship in
- 10:52terms of kind of really quantifying how
- 10:55strong the relationship is we look at
- 10:57something called the coefficient of
- 10:58determin ation um which for this is just
- 11:02the square of the R so if you have a
- 11:03correlation of .5 the coefficient
- 11:06ofation is .5 * .5 which is equal to
- 11:090.25 and that's helpful because the two
- 11:12things have a correlation of
- 11:130.5 the coefficient termination is 0.25
- 11:17which is 25% right if we convert it to a
- 11:20percentile and that's significant
- 11:22because with a correlation of 0.5 that
- 11:24means that the variability in X accounts
- 11:28for 25 5% of the variability in W so if
- 11:32two things are perfectly correlated
- 11:33correlation of one or 1 the coefficient
- 11:36determination is one and you can account
- 11:39for all the variability in X with the
- 11:41variability in y and really that only
- 11:43happens if you're measuring the exact
- 11:45same thing two different ways like
- 11:46you're measuring uh height using
- 11:48centimeters and height using inches as
- 11:51long as you're measuring accurately
- 11:53those things those two sets of
- 11:54measurements will have uh r equal um 1.0
- 11:59correlation the variability uh in one
- 12:02group in height in inches is the same as
- 12:04the variability in that group in um
- 12:09ctim um okay so pretty straightforward
- 12:12for for B correlations uh and there's
- 12:14some other types of correlations we
- 12:15won't go into right now but the other
- 12:17kind of big group of tests uh would be
- 12:20um different types of regression
- 12:22multiple regression uh this is whenever
- 12:24you want to look at um multiple
- 12:27predictors how they relate to
- 12:29uh as they relate to each other how they
- 12:32predict some
- 12:34criteria uh when you're looking at
- 12:36multiple aggression uh it'll generate
- 12:38these things called beta weights which
- 12:40are conceptually like little
- 12:41correlations right for each predictor in
- 12:43the Criterion um separately and doing
- 12:46multiple regression looking at the data
- 12:48weights you can tell which predictor has
- 12:49the strongest relationship with the
- 12:51Criterion uh and you can see how well uh
- 12:55prediction of the Criterion can be
- 12:57improved by adding or deleting
- 12:59predictors right so if you're saying
- 13:01trying to figure out okay what predicts
- 13:03suicide uh suicide um suicidal actions
- 13:08and you have all these variables you can
- 13:09put them all on the multiple regession
- 13:10and figure out okay all these 10
- 13:13variables it's significant ression
- 13:14that's great but really I predict just
- 13:16as well with five of those variables as
- 13:19with all 10 so in real world sense you
- 13:21say okay I'm I'm only going to ask
- 13:23questions about those five variables and
- 13:24not waste the time with the others
- 13:26because they don't add anything to the
- 13:27predictive validity and that's something
- 13:29that multiple pression uh can do for you
- 13:31is tell you what things um are needed to
- 13:33predict some Criterion
- 13:36right excuse me okay um so when looking
- 13:41at the results of your statistical test
- 13:42you're always as we've talked about
- 13:44before looking for statistical
- 13:46significance uh and sometimes you won't
- 13:48find statistical significance you won't
- 13:50find kind of mathematical evidence for
- 13:53relationship you won't find a
- 13:54significant correlation or a significant
- 13:57um regression but in reality there is a
- 14:00relationship present and that can happen
- 14:02uh for a variety of
- 14:04reasons uh one of the big ones is a
- 14:07truncated range this has to do uh
- 14:09usually with how you selected your
- 14:11sample um so like if we say um does uh
- 14:16GRE predict um how well you do in grad
- 14:20school and the answer for most is no and
- 14:25for uh for you all and for most people
- 14:27in graduate school no it doesn't predict
- 14:30well at
- 14:31all but and here's where it get the
- 14:34beginning if we gave the GRE to
- 14:37everybody children older adults all
- 14:41kinds of people it would predict pretty
- 14:43well who would do well in uh in grad
- 14:46school but the thing is people who want
- 14:49to go to grad school who have taken a
- 14:50lot of Under courses who know a lot of
- 14:52stuff already are the only ones that
- 14:54take the gr so you have this trunk head
- 14:56you're looking at only one portion of
- 14:58the people in terms of academic skills
- 15:00and knowledge and all these things
- 15:02you're restricting the range this trun
- 15:03headed range of individuals and you're
- 15:06trying to predict GPA in grad school
- 15:08with this test score and it doesn't work
- 15:10for that group if we had put everybody
- 15:12in there and everybody had gone to grad
- 15:14school and had gotten the GPA then yeah
- 15:16it it would have a significant uh
- 15:17correlation but for graduate students it
- 15:20doesn't predict well because of the
- 15:22truncated
- 15:24range
- 15:25um an even kind of maybe more obvious
- 15:27example um
- 15:30uh I looked at a measure of aggression
- 15:33in the number of times uh you've been
- 15:37arrested uh most people say yeah that
- 15:40probably that makes sense that more
- 15:41arrested people probably get in trouble
- 15:43with law more often and more likely to
- 15:45get arrested probably not a big
- 15:46correlation but big enough sample I
- 15:48could probably find a small small
- 15:51correlation if I looked at just the
- 15:53people in this class probably wouldn't
- 15:55find that because again Trump had range
- 15:57and even more than that i' probably have
- 15:59no
- 16:00variability probably in this class um
- 16:04nobody or very few people have been
- 16:06arrested at least for violent crimes uh
- 16:09let's hope um and I can't find a
- 16:12correlation if there's no variability if
- 16:13everybody is the same on either one of
- 16:15the variables you're not going to find a
- 16:17significant correlation you can't
- 16:18predict variability with no variability
- 16:21so you have to have uh some diversity in
- 16:23your sample on the variable you're
- 16:24looking at to find significance if
- 16:26everybody's at the same IQ level and
- 16:28you're trying to predict something with
- 16:29IQ even if there is a relationship
- 16:31between those two variables you're not
- 16:33going to find it if there's no
- 16:34variability you've got to have
- 16:35variability in both of your variables to
- 16:37find any kind of relationship okay so
- 16:40you've got to have um a wide range of
- 16:42people and you have to have variability
- 16:44in both of the variables that you're
- 16:46you're looking
- 16:47at uh and then thirdly you might be
- 16:50looking at the wrong type of
- 16:51relationship
- 16:55so uh
- 16:59let's say you're looking at uh the
- 17:00relationship between um uh climate
- 17:04between heat uh you how hot it's outside
- 17:07and aggression and you get uh a wide
- 17:09range um of temperatures um from very
- 17:13hot to very cold and you get a wide
- 17:16large population and you find zero
- 17:20correlation could happen if you're
- 17:22looking with just kind of a regular
- 17:24Pierce and R linear relationship type
- 17:26thing because
- 17:29the relationship between heat and
- 17:30aggression seems to be curol linear
- 17:32right so aggression goes up as it gets
- 17:34hotter but then when it gets to a
- 17:36certain amount of heat aggression
- 17:38aggressive acts start to come down and
- 17:39it's too hot to go out and get into
- 17:41fights and because it goes up and down
- 17:45when you look at it with a in a linear
- 17:47way it's going to cut right across the
- 17:49middle of that curve and look like a
- 17:50correlation of zero same thing the other
- 17:53way if you're looking for a curve linear
- 17:54relationship but the actual relationship
- 17:55is linear you won't find simp results
- 17:57either so you want to make sure you're
- 17:59looking at the right type of
- 18:02relationship um okay so with uh
- 18:06correlational
- 18:09research
- 18:11um we we've got some limitations in
- 18:13terms of what we can uh conclude right
- 18:16we can't infer causality because it's
- 18:18not an experiment and because we we're
- 18:20kind of missing that piece and we're not
- 18:22assigning people to groups we're not
- 18:23doing stuff to people the importance of
- 18:25measurement validity
- 18:27really um increases right because this
- 18:29is where you can exert some uh some
- 18:32control and some uh some skill in
- 18:34designing study to make sure that you're
- 18:36measuring what you say you're measuring
- 18:38because what you're able to conclude
- 18:39about these about a relationship between
- 18:41variables hinges almost entirely on how
- 18:44you measure those variables right so
- 18:47figuring out how to measure something
- 18:48really well and really accurately with
- 18:50high with a high level of construct
- 18:51validity becomes very very important
- 18:54when doing correlational research
- 18:58so we know we can infer a causation well
- 19:01why not as you I'm sure have heard
- 19:04before but I'll just iterate one more
- 19:06time uh two main reasons directionality
- 19:09right if there's a correlation between
- 19:11variables A and B are are related we
- 19:13don't know if a caused b or B caused a
- 19:16right so if we find a correlation
- 19:18between um sun exposure and mood where
- 19:22more sun exposure is associated with
- 19:24more positive
- 19:25mood okay well is it that being out in
- 19:28the sun makes people feel better or is
- 19:30that when people feel better they're
- 19:31more likely to go out and be in the
- 19:33sun people who are depressed stay home
- 19:36in the dark we don't know which variable
- 19:38which way the the the flow of causality
- 19:42goes if we didn't assign people to go
- 19:44outside or not go outside right we're do
- 19:46a correlation we're asking people hey
- 19:48how much have you gone outside what's
- 19:50your mood like if we're just asking
- 19:51people stuff we're not manipulating
- 19:52anything then we don't know about the
- 19:55direction of the causal
- 19:57relationship uh the other day would be
- 19:59the third variable where if there's a
- 20:01correlation between A and B it could be
- 20:04that it's explained by some C
- 20:06relationship where a causes C which
- 20:09causes B um and the example I always
- 20:12cite is that there is a correlation
- 20:14between a number of asay in people's
- 20:17houses and um likelihood of getting
- 20:20cancer and having asay doesn't cause
- 20:23cancer but asays are associated with
- 20:25smoking and smoking smoking is
- 20:27associated in a causal way with cancer
- 20:30so there's that third variable that
- 20:31explains the relationship between
- 20:33between two other
- 20:37variables so if it can't you can't infer
- 20:39a causation well why would you use it
- 20:41why wouldn't you just do everything uh
- 20:44experimental uh well lots of reasons one
- 20:47would be you might be interested in
- 20:49multiple levels of a variable right so
- 20:53uh in an
- 20:54experiment um think about like a a drug
- 20:57study we we do uh with the drug without
- 21:00the drug that's two groups well say I
- 21:02know I want to know about um how much of
- 21:04the drug affects people well I could do
- 21:07okay um no drug low dose high dose now
- 21:10I've got to have a certain number of
- 21:11people in each of those groups right and
- 21:13as I well I want to do no drug really
- 21:16low slightly low medium slightly big
- 21:19really big the more kind of I divide it
- 21:21up the more people I have to having
- 21:22groups to maintain statistical power and
- 21:25the more tests I'll be doing to compare
- 21:27group a to Group B to group C Group D so
- 21:29on and so forth so if I really want to
- 21:31know about well at all levels of the
- 21:33drug people at really high slight Less
- 21:36in that what's what's the relationship
- 21:39with these symptoms it might make more
- 21:42sense to do a correlational study where
- 21:44I just look at how much of the drug
- 21:45people are taking and what their
- 21:47symptoms are like and then I get all
- 21:49kinds of variability uh and see if there
- 21:51is any kind of linear consistent
- 21:53relationship and I might find that
- 21:55there's not um a linear Rel maybe it's
- 21:57this kind of step function where uh
- 22:00between 0 and 10 mg there's no uh no
- 22:05effect then between 10 and 20 everybody
- 22:07in that group has the same amount of
- 22:09symptoms maybe maybe not but looking at
- 22:11the correlation I can find that I can
- 22:12find if it is is this weird kind of Step
- 22:14thing like looking graphically at the
- 22:16data or is the smooth linear function or
- 22:18it even a curv a linear
- 22:21relationship um so I might be interested
- 22:23in multiple levels of the variable um
- 22:25that I'm I'm interested in um sometimes
- 22:28times I just can't uh manipulate the the
- 22:32independent variable uh for ethical or
- 22:34or practical U
- 22:36reasons right if I want to know uh the
- 22:41relationship between um well uh
- 22:45infidelity repeated infidelities and um
- 22:48partner uh
- 22:50violence I can't go out and tell people
- 22:52okay I need you to cheat on your spouse
- 22:54uh six times I need you to cheat on your
- 22:56spouse three times I need you to cheat
- 22:58your spouse zero times and I want to see
- 23:00how often um partner violence occurs in
- 23:02your relationship right can't can't do
- 23:04that but I can go out and I can give
- 23:06service people just measure how
- 23:08frequently they um cheated on their
- 23:10partner and I can measure I can ask them
- 23:12how frequently they engaged in or were
- 23:15victims of partner
- 23:18violence excuse me and then um sometimes
- 23:22I don't want to manipulate an invariable
- 23:25or I don't want high levels of
- 23:26experimental control right maybe I want
- 23:28a more naturalistic design I want to see
- 23:31what happens in a natural setting right
- 23:36um you know this is what I really I'm
- 23:38maybe focusing more on external validity
- 23:40and not that concerned with internal
- 23:42validity maybe i' they've already
- 23:44established that you know a can cause B
- 23:46and I want to find if it happens in the
- 23:48real world right people found okay well
- 23:50um this kind of a silly example but um
- 23:53people run faster uh when being chased
- 23:57uh by a bigger bear
- 23:58right and they found that in the lab
- 24:00setting my show people pictures of bears
- 24:02and measuring the heart rate and they
- 24:03kind of extrapolate from that well you
- 24:05probably run faster but would you really
- 24:08is that higher heart rate really
- 24:09correspond to faster running or not well
- 24:12one one way to do it I could go out and
- 24:14watch people that come across bears and
- 24:17again ethically I can't uh um and it
- 24:19wouldn't be realistic to tell people
- 24:21okay you're going to go on the forest
- 24:23and there's going to be a bear I'm going
- 24:24to watch how fast you run that's not
- 24:26real world real world would be watching
- 24:29campers and whenever a bear comes up the
- 24:31person starts to run measure how fast
- 24:33they run and measure how big the bear is
- 24:35and now I've got a very naturalistic
- 24:37design and I can see um if that kind of
- 24:40lab finding really does generalize to uh
- 24:43the real world okay silly example but
- 24:47anyway U quasi experimental research um
- 24:52similar in many ways but also maybe a
- 24:54bit different uh its goal broadly um
- 24:57stated is to identify group
- 25:00differences right so um are men and
- 25:03women different on something
- 25:06are uh people who
- 25:08have previous military experience
- 25:11different from people who don't have
- 25:12previous military experience right where
- 25:14again I can't assign people to one group
- 25:17or the other but I I want to know these
- 25:18groups uh are
- 25:20different uh now with some quasi resarch
- 25:25the goal is to examine some sort of
- 25:27cause effect relationship where you want
- 25:29to exam cause and effect but you can't
- 25:31really do it uh in the same way as you
- 25:33would with an
- 25:35experiment um so you have to be cautious
- 25:38about how you report results of a quas
- 25:40experimental study but to make uh your
- 25:44argument for a cause VOR relationship
- 25:46stronger there's some things uh you can
- 25:48do right you exert as much experimental
- 25:50control as possible obviously then the
- 25:52other big thing is to measure relevant
- 25:54variables right so
- 25:56um if you have
- 25:59um two you want to compare two treatment
- 26:03groups right uh people that uh go to AA
- 26:07and people that go to um a a treatment
- 26:10program without any spiritual
- 26:12component and you can't if you can't
- 26:15assign people to go to AA or not go to
- 26:17AA right you you're just looking at
- 26:20these existing groups and it's a quasi
- 26:21experimental study and you and you want
- 26:24to uh argue maybe that there's some
- 26:26effect of the spirit component of AA
- 26:29these people will be different after
- 26:31doing their group who did some other
- 26:33group that didn't have a spiritual
- 26:34component so what you have to do is
- 26:35anticipate what people might say about
- 26:38that difference so if you found the
- 26:40groups different and you said oh it's
- 26:41because the spiritual component other
- 26:44people say well yeah but U maybe the
- 26:47people that went to
- 26:49AA um were of higher SCS or lower SCS
- 26:53people went to the other group right so
- 26:54you try to anticipate any kind of
- 26:56relevant variables that people might say
- 26:57could explain your group difference and
- 26:59you measure those and you try to
- 27:01establish that your two groups are
- 27:03equivalent um before you measure the
- 27:05dependent variable because that's the
- 27:07whole uh the one of the main goals of
- 27:11assigning individuals to levels of the
- 27:12infinite variable is to
- 27:14establish equivalency of groups before
- 27:17the intervention that way after the
- 27:19intervention is done if they're
- 27:20different it's because of the
- 27:22intervention not because of some
- 27:23pre-existing difference so measure any
- 27:25kind of relevant anything that might be
- 27:26relevant um pre-existing differences
- 27:29that people would try to uh criticize
- 27:31your study with and then you would say
- 27:32oh yeah well it could be but these
- 27:34groups were actually exactly the same on
- 27:36that
- 27:38variable excuse me
- 27:44um okay uh one other thing with the
- 27:48Quasi experimental uh
- 27:50research uh statistically uh very
- 27:53similar to um experimental studies right
- 27:56so uh frequently the exact same stuff so
- 27:59if you're looking at you know three
- 28:01groups uh you're going to be using an
- 28:02anova if it's two groups you probably be
- 28:04doing a T Test um if it's just one point
- 28:07in time all
- 28:10right um which can be confusing because
- 28:12then you think okay um I'm comparing
- 28:14these two groups using a T Test uh and
- 28:17therefore um you know I'm
- 28:19comparing may this AA group to this
- 28:21nonaa group do a test and okay then
- 28:25clearly um the spiritual a caused this
- 28:28difference you can't say that you may be
- 28:30tempted to say that because you use a t
- 28:31test and you think oh T Test is
- 28:32causation no all it is is a group
- 28:35difference then you can try to make the
- 28:37theoretical kind of rational argument
- 28:39for why that difference uh occurred and
- 28:42your argum probably be for some cause of
- 28:44relationship but you have to be very
- 28:46careful and justifying that and the data
- 28:49don't justify that you have to kind of
- 28:51rationally justify it based on other
- 28:53data and other kind of um theoretical um
- 28:57arguments
- 28:58okay uh so correlational quas quasi
- 29:01experiment
- 29:02research um probably more commonly used
- 29:07uh in our field than uh experimental
- 29:09research just because it's hard to
- 29:10assign people to groups and doing doing
- 29:12clinical work um so important to to know
- 29:14about these these designs uh and the
- 29:18thing to keep in mind is just because
- 29:19it's not experimental doesn't mean that
- 29:22you have you can forget about all the
- 29:23stuff we talked about with experiments
- 29:24in terms of um
- 29:28um uh uh focusing on uh validity and
- 29:32doing things the right way to uh ensure
- 29:35that you're making valid conclusions
- 29:37draw you can draw valid conclusions from
- 29:39your results all those things still
- 29:42apply um to both quas exp and
- 29:44correlational research okay take
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