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Reacting to Ross Cameron’s Momentum Trading Strategy (Is He Legit?) — Transcript

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  1. 0:00Warrior Trading, aka Ross Cameron, is
  2. 0:02one of the biggest names in the space,
  3. 0:05and you asked me if he's legit. Ross
  4. 0:07uses a specific momentum trading
  5. 0:09strategy that he claims has made him
  6. 0:11millions. But, and this is a huge but, I
  7. 0:15believe there is a massive disclaimer
  8. 0:17you need to be aware of regarding his
  9. 0:19so-called trading profits, and it isn't
  10. 0:22just his FTC lawsuit. I'm Lance, and
  11. 0:24after making over a hundred million
  12. 0:26dollars trading on Wall Street, I'm done
  13. 0:28trading my health for wealth. And now,
  14. 0:30[music]
  15. 0:30I feel that it's my responsibility to be
  16. 0:33the voice of reason in the trading
  17. 0:34education space full of fake gurus
  18. 0:37promising you [music] fast profits. I
  19. 0:39spent dozens of hours watching Ross's
  20. 0:41videos, and I even put on sunglasses
  21. 0:43[music] and a mustache to go incognito
  22. 0:46and observe his paid chat room. The
  23. 0:48things I'm willing to do for audience
  24. 0:50requests. Hey, don't get any weird
  25. 0:52ideas, you sickos. So first, who is Ross
  26. 0:56Cameron? On his own site, Ross says he
  27. 0:58grew up in Vermont and first
  28. 1:00in stocks during the dot-com era. He
  29. 1:02opened his first Ameritrade account in
  30. 1:042001 while still in high school, studied
  31. 1:07architecture and in New York at a design
  32. 1:09firm before finally going full-time into
  33. 1:12trading. He founded Warrior Trading in
  34. 1:142012 as what began as the Day Trade
  35. 1:18Warrior blog. Well, I was in the early
  36. 1:19days of my trading career at Trillium.
  37. 1:21At that time, I had no idea who he was
  38. 1:24until over a decade later once I started
  39. 1:26spending more time on the retail trading
  40. 1:28side of things. Ross's trading style is
  41. 1:31pretty clear and specific. He is
  42. 1:32fundamentally a small-cap momentum day
  43. 1:35trader, mostly looking for intraday
  44. 1:37continuation. He says he only wants to
  45. 1:40trade stocks making extreme moves
  46. 1:42because that is where the most edge is.
  47. 1:44Using scanners, he is searching for
  48. 1:46floats under a hundred million shares,
  49. 1:48strong daily charts, high relative
  50. 1:50volume, and some catalysts such as
  51. 1:52earnings, an FDA announcement, or other
  52. 1:54breaking news. He also says the daily
  53. 1:57list is usually tiny after he screens
  54. 1:59the market, which fits the way momentum
  55. 2:01traders narrow their universe to a
  56. 2:03handful of in-play names rather than
  57. 2:05trading everything. So far, all good.
  58. 2:08Essentially, he's focusing on small cap
  59. 2:10stocks that are in play due to high
  60. 2:12volume, large ranges, and ideally a
  61. 2:15breaking news catalyst. All of that I
  62. 2:17full-heartedly endorse. All of this fits
  63. 2:20into the criteria that I also look for
  64. 2:22when finding edge in the market, which I
  65. 2:24get into in my broken slot machine
  66. 2:26concept video. It's linked below.
  67. 2:28Particularly in the small cap space,
  68. 2:29it's generally far safer to focus on
  69. 2:32continuation longs going with the trend
  70. 2:34rather than trying to focus on shorting
  71. 2:37them. Statistically, yes, these do tend
  72. 2:40to mean revert and come back to Earth.
  73. 2:42But in doing so, many traders blow up on
  74. 2:45the stocks that end up going up hundreds
  75. 2:47or even thousands of percents higher.
  76. 2:50Momentum trading of in-play micro cap
  77. 2:52stocks is absolutely a viable strategy,
  78. 2:55and I did myself a considerable amount
  79. 2:58of trading that style while at Trillium.
  80. 3:00I eventually stopped doing this though
  81. 3:02because I started to face scalability
  82. 3:04issues in these smaller cap names. You
  83. 3:06can only put so much capital behind a
  84. 3:08name that might only trade a few million
  85. 3:10shares per day while trading for a low
  86. 3:12share price. The other part I love about
  87. 3:14what Ross is doing is he uses tech to
  88. 3:17help find more of his best setups.
  89. 3:19Especially in this modern day of vibe
  90. 3:21coding, you absolutely need to be using
  91. 3:23filters and scanners to find more of
  92. 3:26your best setups. It is inexcusable to
  93. 3:28miss an A+ setup for your trading style.
  94. 3:31So, he does a great job of using that
  95. 3:33tech to build a morning watch list each
  96. 3:35day. Like I said, so far, so good.
  97. 3:38Another important sign to identify real
  98. 3:40traders is whether they are transparent
  99. 3:42about losses and their risk management.
  100. 3:44So, let's hear what Ross has to say
  101. 3:45about some of his P&L giveback rules.
  102. 3:47>> I am pleasantly surprised, bordering on
  103. 3:50shocked, to have such a nice green day
  104. 3:53here. I'm currently sitting up
  105. 3:55$52,503.87.
  106. 4:00Phenomenal. I peaked at 72,000 on the
  107. 4:03day. So, I gave back about a third of my
  108. 4:05profit. And in a way, to give back
  109. 4:07$20,000
  110. 4:10I mean, that's a lot of money to give
  111. 4:11back considering I wasn't even up 20,000
  112. 4:13on the month coming into today. So, I
  113. 4:16just gave back more in those last few
  114. 4:18trades than I've made in the last like
  115. 4:20week and a half. But, today the market
  116. 4:23was hot. And you know what? I had
  117. 4:24several opportunities today to walk
  118. 4:27away. I could have walked away when I
  119. 4:28was up $15,000. That was a green day,
  120. 4:31three times the cold market goal. I kept
  121. 4:33trading. Then I was up 25,000. Could
  122. 4:35have walked away then. Then I was up
  123. 4:3732,000 on the day. Could have walked
  124. 4:39away then, but I didn't. I then took a a
  125. 4:41$6,000 loss and was up 27,000 on the
  126. 4:45day. Made a $5,000 loss. I could have
  127. 4:47walked away then. I didn't. I stuck
  128. 4:49around. I kept waiting for good quality
  129. 4:51trades. And then I rallied all the way
  130. 4:54up to 45, 55, 65, 72,000. Gave back 10
  131. 4:57grand off the top real quick to 61. Gave
  132. 5:00back another 10 grand to 51, 52. And I
  133. 5:02said, "That's it." At that point, I'm
  134. 5:04done. And so, I feel like
  135. 5:08this is really important. There was a
  136. 5:09comment, uh, I think it was yesterday or
  137. 5:11maybe the day before, uh, the day that I
  138. 5:13was up like 25,000 and finished up only
  139. 5:16about 7 or 8,000, uh, that I I had
  140. 5:19pushed it too hard. And I said, "You
  141. 5:20know, on the one hand, you're right." He
  142. 5:21said, "Yeah, look, you were up $20,000.
  143. 5:23Why don't you just take that and walk
  144. 5:24away?" I don't like to cap my green
  145. 5:26days. I want to cap my red days. I have
  146. 5:29to cap my loss days. But, I don't want
  147. 5:31to cap my green days because what about
  148. 5:33days like today where, you know, if I'm
  149. 5:35just willing to dig deep and trade a
  150. 5:36little longer, I end up tripling or
  151. 5:39quadrupling, whatever it might be, my
  152. 5:41daily goal. Okay, I actually love a lot
  153. 5:44of this. For starters, Ross recognizes
  154. 5:47that when your market is hot and the
  155. 5:49opportunities are there, you need to
  156. 5:51press on the gas. This touches on my
  157. 5:53concept of exponential bet sizing. It
  158. 5:55sounds like he had a really slow month
  159. 5:57prior to this day and had his foot off
  160. 6:00the gas. But then was immediately able
  161. 6:02to turn it on because he recognized it
  162. 6:04was the day to go for it. This is so
  163. 6:06critical as you scale and grow as a
  164. 6:08trader. Next, he discusses how even
  165. 6:10though he was up a bunch of money and
  166. 6:12having a good day, he kept on pressing
  167. 6:14because the opportunities were there.
  168. 6:16Bingo. We never ever want to hit a P&L
  169. 6:19target and call it a day. The reality is
  170. 6:22that in trading, our best trading days
  171. 6:24will make up a crazy outsized portion of
  172. 6:27our annual P&L. You never ever want to
  173. 6:30cut off the asymmetry of your winning
  174. 6:32days. You do want to cut off the
  175. 6:34asymmetry of your bad days. And he says
  176. 6:37exactly that, which is the point of
  177. 6:39having a daily loss limit. He goes on to
  178. 6:41mention how as he started to give back
  179. 6:43P&L, usually around 30% off his highs,
  180. 6:46is when he will turn it off and call it
  181. 6:47a day. So in general, this isn't a bad
  182. 6:50idea and I've done similar before. As
  183. 6:52part of my daily report card, which I
  184. 6:53discuss in this video, I've mentioned
  185. 6:55the idea of having P&L giveback rules.
  186. 6:58The benefit of this is most traders will
  187. 7:00do well off the open. Then they feel
  188. 7:01like they are playing with house money
  189. 7:03and squander that P&L away over the
  190. 7:05course of the day when the opportunities
  191. 7:07might have slowed and become more
  192. 7:09limited. So overall, yes, yes, yes, yes.
  193. 7:13>> Yes.
  194. 7:13>> Yes.
  195. 7:14>> SAY IT AGAIN.
  196. 7:15>> YES.
  197. 7:16>> The only exception is I never like fully
  198. 7:19calling it a day because in trading
  199. 7:20anything can happen at any moment. If
  200. 7:22the market is open and I haven't hit a
  201. 7:24daily risk limit, my butt is generally
  202. 7:27in the seat. As part of my daily report
  203. 7:29card, I will have giveback rules. For
  204. 7:31example, if I am up 100K and the
  205. 7:33opportunities are slowing, I might only
  206. 7:35be willing to give back 25K of those
  207. 7:37profits rather than go all the way back
  208. 7:40negative to my normal daily loss limit.
  209. 7:43If I hit a give back rule, I will then
  210. 7:45be hands-off unless something truly
  211. 7:47exceptional happens. Because I recognize
  212. 7:49that sometimes incredible opportunities
  213. 7:51can make your year when you least expect
  214. 7:54it. Now, onto the next clip.
  215. 7:55>> And this right here is the hardest part
  216. 7:58of being a trader. When you get into
  217. 8:00these cycles of two steps forward, two
  218. 8:02steps back.
  219. 8:03So, Thursday was red 10,000, rounding
  220. 8:06up.
  221. 8:07Then 5,000 in the green on Friday, 5,000
  222. 8:10in the green on Monday.
  223. 8:12Two steps forward, and now today, boom,
  224. 8:15right back to where I was on Thursday. I
  225. 8:18gave back everything I made in the last
  226. 8:19two days. That's discouraging. That's
  227. 8:21frustrating.
  228. 8:23Right? That There's There's no I think
  229. 8:25that's pretty safe to say. That's a
  230. 8:26frustrating experience to spend two days
  231. 8:29chipping away, coming down, you know,
  232. 8:32into my office, getting up early,
  233. 8:33sitting down, trading, and then coming
  234. 8:35up short with nothing.
  235. 8:37So, that's a frustrating experience.
  236. 8:39Now, how do you respond to that
  237. 8:41frustration?
  238. 8:42>> A couple nice things here. I love that
  239. 8:44he is openly discussing his losing
  240. 8:45trades. And he is speaking about a point
  241. 8:48that I'm sure his audience can very much
  242. 8:50relate to, as we all can as traders.
  243. 8:52Sometimes you work your damn ass off
  244. 8:55only to go one step forward and give it
  245. 8:57all back the next day. Or sometimes you
  246. 8:59are just losing again and again. It
  247. 9:01feels like you're moving backwards and
  248. 9:03getting worse. Rightfully so, this is a
  249. 9:06part of the job, and what matters most
  250. 9:08is how you respond and handle it. Let's
  251. 9:10hear how he does so.
  252. 9:12>> When I get kicked off the horse, I kind
  253. 9:14of jump back on. Like, all right, you
  254. 9:16you try to show me, I'll show you.
  255. 9:19What's that mean? Jump into a second
  256. 9:21trade.
  257. 9:22And I did. I took a second trade. Not
  258. 9:23immediately, but I did take a second
  259. 9:25trade.
  260. 9:26I get kicked off again. I lose on the
  261. 9:28second trade. Now, I'm red on two
  262. 9:29stocks.
  263. 9:31Ooh. All right, now you start getting a
  264. 9:33little Now, you know, this is when
  265. 9:35you're kind of
  266. 9:37grasping at straws. It's not looking
  267. 9:39good. So, do I take a third trade? I
  268. 9:41take a third trade, I jump into
  269. 9:42something and get smoked again? Now, I'm
  270. 9:44red on three out of three stocks. Where
  271. 9:45do I Where do you draw the line? Three
  272. 9:47strikes, you're out. It's baseball, you
  273. 9:49know, but
  274. 9:50why why even go for three? Why not just
  275. 9:52cut it at two? Like, at a certain point,
  276. 9:55I think it makes sense to accept defeat.
  277. 9:57So,
  278. 9:59the problem is, in the face of
  279. 10:00frustration and disappointment, it's
  280. 10:02very easy to continue trading, and you
  281. 10:06start spiraling. Because the feeling of
  282. 10:08that disappoint that feeling of that
  283. 10:10frustration I'll turn on my whiteboard
  284. 10:11here.
  285. 10:12The feeling of the frustration is so
  286. 10:14strong, you don't want to feel
  287. 10:14frustrated anymore. And so, the best way
  288. 10:16to alleviate that frustrated feeling,
  289. 10:18well, where's it coming from? The fact
  290. 10:20that I'm red $12,000. So, if I can make
  291. 10:2212,000, I won't feel frustrated anymore.
  292. 10:25So, now, that's only 20 cents on a
  293. 10:2660,000 share position, you guys.
  294. 10:29So, 60,000 shares, the next stock I see,
  295. 10:32I'm either making 20 cents and I'm
  296. 10:34back to flat on the day, or I'm losing.
  297. 10:37I mean, think about it. 60,000 shares,
  298. 10:40you lose 5 10 cents maybe on slippage
  299. 10:42getting in, another 5 10 cents on
  300. 10:44slippage getting out. Next thing you
  301. 10:45know, I'm down 25,000 on the day.
  302. 10:47And actually, statistically, I have an
  303. 10:4980% chance of doubling my loss after I
  304. 10:53go below max loss.
  305. 10:54>> That mentality of striving to make the
  306. 10:56first losing trade's loss back and
  307. 10:58taking another trade to alleviate the
  308. 11:00pain of being negative on the day is
  309. 11:02real. And his awareness of that inner
  310. 11:04dialogue is so important. This is not
  311. 11:07generally the type of commentary you get
  312. 11:09from trader frauds. This comes only from
  313. 11:11having gone through these shitty phases.
  314. 11:14Even better is the fact that Ross has
  315. 11:16studied his trading data to learn when
  316. 11:19he is most likely to spiral. Traders
  317. 11:21will often study their charts, but they
  318. 11:23fail to study the data of their own
  319. 11:25trading and miss a ton of key insights
  320. 11:28like this in the process. Another great
  321. 11:30part in that clip is where he discussed
  322. 11:32his reading of the tape and recognizing
  323. 11:34that his buy orders were getting filled
  324. 11:36easily on hidden sellers, yet when it
  325. 11:39came to sell, there was nothing there to
  326. 11:41absorb what he was just able to buy. In
  327. 11:43his niche of small caps, the ability to
  328. 11:46read the tape like this and recognize
  329. 11:48discrepancies between buyers and sellers
  330. 11:50is so critical. I also really love the
  331. 11:53part where he mentions having a rough
  332. 11:55daily loss limit that is equal to what
  333. 11:57he can make on one good day.
  334. 12:00>> I don't really have
  335. 12:01at this point a very hard set max loss
  336. 12:05on my account of where I have to stop. I
  337. 12:07generally say that I don't want to lose
  338. 12:09more than I can make in one good day.
  339. 12:12Because when you lose more than you can
  340. 12:13than you make in on your
  341. 12:15on your typical day, it's that's where I
  342. 12:18personally get really triggered and I
  343. 12:19get really frustrated.
  344. 12:20>> In day trading world, that is a very
  345. 12:22reasonable loss limit for an experienced
  346. 12:24trader. Particularly as he says that he
  347. 12:27knows himself and that exceeding that
  348. 12:29amount triggers him psychologically.
  349. 12:31This is really, really good stuff. It is
  350. 12:34clear to me that he has done the
  351. 12:36reflections necessary to know his
  352. 12:38trading style and to know himself. Would
  353. 12:40I recommend that he have at least some
  354. 12:42form of hard-coded daily loss limit?
  355. 12:44Absolutely. Every single trader should
  356. 12:47have some type of hard-coded loss limit
  357. 12:49just in case. Because when we are at our
  358. 12:52worst, we can spiral and one bad day can
  359. 12:55ruin a decade-long career. So, let's
  360. 12:58pause here for a moment. Based on all
  361. 13:00the content I've shown thus far, I have
  362. 13:03nothing but glowing commentary to say.
  363. 13:05I'll be honest with you. I was actually
  364. 13:08quite pleasantly surprised by the videos
  365. 13:10I was watching. It truly is high-quality
  366. 13:13content that I think many could learn a
  367. 13:14ton from. Value add, well-paced,
  368. 13:18real-world advice. I can say with an
  369. 13:20extremely high level of confidence that
  370. 13:22Ross is genuinely doing the trading and
  371. 13:24he knows his small-cap momentum niche.
  372. 13:27Considering what a total cesspool this
  373. 13:29industry is, that is pretty much about
  374. 13:31as good of a review as I would give
  375. 13:33someone. That being said, those of you
  376. 13:35might recall from the beginning of my
  377. 13:36video that there is a big disclaimer.
  378. 13:39And no, that was not just watch bait. So
  379. 13:42now, let's dive into it because this
  380. 13:44dark side is critically important.
  381. 13:47Ross's transparency is exceptional, and
  382. 13:49I do think he has made over $10 million
  383. 13:52in trading profits. Relative to most
  384. 13:54internet trading educators, Ross has put
  385. 13:57far more public documentation around his
  386. 13:59own results than the typical guru. His
  387. 14:01website explicitly says he continues to
  388. 14:04make broker statements available for
  389. 14:05public review, and the verified earnings
  390. 14:07page references an independent
  391. 14:09accountant's report. This is especially
  392. 14:11important after his prior FTC fine for
  393. 14:13some of his marketing, which from my
  394. 14:15understanding of the case wasn't really
  395. 14:17so crazy out of pocket. It wasn't that
  396. 14:20big of a deal. That said, after a fine
  397. 14:22like he received, you would have to be
  398. 14:24out of your mind to totally lie about
  399. 14:27these statements and publish fraudulent
  400. 14:28claims when you already have a massive
  401. 14:31target on your back. So yes, I
  402. 14:33absolutely think his trading is real.
  403. 14:36Now, onto the butt. The more interesting
  404. 14:39critique is also the harder one. Ross
  405. 14:42clearly knows trading. He clearly
  406. 14:44understands momentum, and he clearly is
  407. 14:47genuinely placing the trades. He has
  408. 14:49more real receipts than most of the
  409. 14:51internet's trading clowns combined. On
  410. 14:53that basis alone, yes, he is transparent
  411. 14:55in a way that most trading influencers
  412. 14:57are not. But here's where the
  413. 14:58conversation gets much more nuanced and
  414. 15:00much more important. Ross is live
  415. 15:03streaming his trading to thousands of
  416. 15:05traders in his chat room daily. On one
  417. 15:07hand, that looks like transparency. At
  418. 15:10the same time though, that also creates
  419. 15:12a massive conflict of interest in that
  420. 15:14traders in his community are
  421. 15:16piggybacking off of his live trades.
  422. 15:18When you are trading microcap stocks,
  423. 15:21this can have very real impacts on the
  424. 15:23price movement. Imagine if every time
  425. 15:25you bought a stock, people bought 10
  426. 15:27times your size after you. It is the
  427. 15:30same exact price dynamic of a pump and
  428. 15:32dump scheme. This is exactly what Zack
  429. 15:35Morris, a famous stock pump and dumper
  430. 15:37from the COVID era, and others in the
  431. 15:39past have been prosecuted for. So look,
  432. 15:41I am not accusing Ross Cameron of any
  433. 15:44pumping and dumping, but I do think when
  434. 15:46he enters a trade, he's doing it on its
  435. 15:49own merits and all of it is legal. But I
  436. 15:51also strongly believe he is a massive
  437. 15:53tailwind when he does so because of his
  438. 15:55thousands of chat room members, some of
  439. 15:57whom piggyback him into the trade. This
  440. 15:59is especially problematic when these
  441. 16:01small cap momentum markets are really
  442. 16:03hot. In hot markets, participants are
  443. 16:05eager to chase into small cap momentum
  444. 16:07names, and coupled with very thin
  445. 16:09floats, some of these names can go
  446. 16:11hundreds or even thousands of percents
  447. 16:13higher. It can make a huge difference
  448. 16:16because even traders not following Ross
  449. 16:19will pile in on high volume breakouts.
  450. 16:21So essentially, Ross has the ability to
  451. 16:23light the spark, his chat room provides
  452. 16:25the gasoline for the move, then in times
  453. 16:28of hot markets, the rest of the world is
  454. 16:30the rocket fuel. And that is the heart
  455. 16:32of my issue. My issue is not whether
  456. 16:33Ross places the trades or whether he
  457. 16:35knows how to trade or whether he is more
  458. 16:37transparent than the average guru. He
  459. 16:39clearly is. My issue is that once you
  460. 16:42combine a legitimate momentum trader
  461. 16:44with a giant live audience in a niche
  462. 16:47that is already reflexive, thin, and
  463. 16:50crowded, especially one that is often
  464. 16:52entering these trades premarket when
  465. 16:54they are most easily influenced, you
  466. 16:57create a structural advantage that
  467. 16:59public broker statements do not fully
  468. 17:01explain. That advantage is not illegal.
  469. 17:05It may not be explicit manipulation. It
  470. 17:08honestly isn't even his fault that he
  471. 17:10developed such a big following, and if
  472. 17:11that has always been your product
  473. 17:13offering, should he really have to cut
  474. 17:15off the live trading? It is a judgment
  475. 17:17call that I would imagine very few
  476. 17:18people would say no to. In my opinion
  477. 17:21though, it absolutely does muddy the
  478. 17:23waters when you try to evaluate how much
  479. 17:25of his P&L comes from pure stand-alone
  480. 17:28trading skill versus how much comes from
  481. 17:30being the person who buys first while
  482. 17:33thousands of people are watching the
  483. 17:34tape and scrambling to join him after.
  484. 17:37For many of the larger live trading
  485. 17:39influencers, you end up with the
  486. 17:40following of traders that look to
  487. 17:42piggyback you, but they get worse
  488. 17:44entries and exits. Rather than learning
  489. 17:46properly, they are trying to make a
  490. 17:48quick buck by the piggybacking. I'm sure
  491. 17:50this isn't most of his audience, but I'd
  492. 17:52also bet anything that is definitely
  493. 17:54some of them. And for that exact reason,
  494. 17:56I do not find this piggybacking ethical
  495. 17:59and I never share any of my own trading
  496. 18:01that could influence the position. Once
  497. 18:03you are the front man of a giant
  498. 18:05real-time microcap chat room, you have
  499. 18:08to at least ask the adult question. In a
  500. 18:10stock with low float and extreme
  501. 18:12intraday momentum, what is the value of
  502. 18:14being first, being visible, and being
  503. 18:16copied? My answer is a lot, potentially
  504. 18:19a whole lot. Maybe not every day, maybe
  505. 18:22not in every trade, but enough that I
  506. 18:24would never be comfortable judging the
  507. 18:26raw trading record as if it were
  508. 18:27generated in a vacuum. Even if you are
  509. 18:29not intentionally trying to exploit
  510. 18:31that, even if you're just trading your
  511. 18:33system honestly, the structure itself
  512. 18:35creates a massive cushion in your
  513. 18:37trading. The audience knows what you're
  514. 18:39watching. They know your style, they
  515. 18:41know your preferred setups. They see
  516. 18:43your fills in real-time. In hot
  517. 18:45small-cap conditions, that is not a
  518. 18:47trivial detail. That is an inherent part
  519. 18:50of the market microstructure. And before
  520. 18:52somebody says, "Well, that's just the
  521. 18:54cost of teaching live." I get that
  522. 18:56argument. There is some truth there, and
  523. 18:57again, I'm not saying I even fault Ross
  524. 18:59for this. But if you build a business
  525. 19:01around live trading small caps in front
  526. 19:03of thousands of traders, then the fair
  527. 19:05critique is that your educational model
  528. 19:08and your trading results are not cleanly
  529. 19:10separable. They bleed into each other.
  530. 19:12The room helps sell the education and
  531. 19:14the education audience may also help the
  532. 19:16room leader in ways that are difficult
  533. 19:18to measure. And that's the piece I think
  534. 19:20that gets glossed over when people say,
  535. 19:22"Well, Ross posted statement, so case
  536. 19:24closed." No, case not closed. The
  537. 19:27statements close one debate and open
  538. 19:29another. They go a long way toward
  539. 19:31showing the trades are real. That
  540. 19:32matters. I give him full credit for
  541. 19:34that. Most gurus will not get that far,
  542. 19:36but it does not answer the more
  543. 19:38interesting question, which is whether
  544. 19:40those returns would look the same if
  545. 19:42Ross were quietly trading the same
  546. 19:44strategies with no camera, no chat room,
  547. 19:47no alert system, and no audience piling
  548. 19:50into the same names after him. And I
  549. 19:51want to stay very disciplined here
  550. 19:53because this is where reaction videos
  551. 19:54can get sloppy. It's easy to slide from
  552. 19:56a fair critique into making accusations
  553. 19:59that I cannot prove. I cannot, nor can
  554. 20:01anyone, easily prove what percentage of
  555. 20:04his profits come from his audience
  556. 20:05chasing him after him. That being said,
  557. 20:07it is my personal belief that the
  558. 20:09tailwind is very much significant to his
  559. 20:12P&L. I would not be surprised if the
  560. 20:14tailwind is responsible for a majority
  561. 20:16of his trading profits. I spoke about
  562. 20:18Ross's trading performance and this
  563. 20:19issue with four unrelated senior traders
  564. 20:22in the chat room space, each with over a
  565. 20:24decade of trading experience and each
  566. 20:26running their own trading communities.
  567. 20:28And they have been a part of Ross
  568. 20:29Cameron's trading community at points in
  569. 20:31their career. Every single one of them
  570. 20:33said they believe that the majority of
  571. 20:36Ross Cameron's profits come from his
  572. 20:38followers piggybacking his trades. Two
  573. 20:41of the four traders I spoke with went as
  574. 20:43far as saying they confidently believe
  575. 20:45Ross would not be profitable were it not
  576. 20:48for his chat room tailwind. Wow, that is
  577. 20:51a big statement. So, where do I land? I
  578. 20:53land somewhere in the middle. Ross is
  579. 20:55absolutely not in the same bucket as the
  580. 20:57worst trading frauds. He absolutely is a
  581. 21:00real trader with a decade of real
  582. 21:02experience. His understanding of the
  583. 21:03micro cap space, reading the tape, and
  584. 21:06his own trading habits are clearly real.
  585. 21:08His transparency on providing statements
  586. 21:10deserves recognition. At the same time,
  587. 21:12I think it's totally fair to question
  588. 21:14the purity of the record and put a
  589. 21:16disclaimer on his profits in this
  590. 21:17specific case. The same way that Mark
  591. 21:19McGuire and Barry Bonds had the steroids
  592. 21:21asterisk. In plain English, Ross may be
  593. 21:24a very good trader, but also maybe not
  594. 21:27since he is not trading under laboratory
  595. 21:29conditions. I totally think his
  596. 21:31following has a lot to learn from him,
  597. 21:33especially if you're beginner. His
  598. 21:35content's great, but as a consumer, you
  599. 21:37need to question how transferable that
  600. 21:40edge is to you as the audience, and also
  601. 21:43how transferable that edge is outside of
  602. 21:45the market of microcaps. And maybe the
  603. 21:47biggest lesson for beginner traders is
  604. 21:49this. Even when someone is legitimate,
  605. 21:51that does not automatically mean their
  606. 21:53edge is clearly replicable by you. Yes,
  607. 21:56you can still learn from them, and I do
  608. 21:58genuinely love his content. It does
  609. 22:01provide real learning lessons. It was
  610. 22:03entertaining and had awesome pacing. At
  611. 22:05the end of the day, the trading
  612. 22:06influencer industry is always buyer
  613. 22:08beware. There are minimal rules or
  614. 22:10regulations. So, you as a consumer need
  615. 22:13to do your due diligence and find the
  616. 22:15teacher that is right for you. If you
  617. 22:17found value in this reaction piece, hit
  618. 22:19that subscribe button and let me know
  619. 22:21who you want me to analyze next. I try
  620. 22:23and always tell it like it is, no
  621. 22:25holding back the punches. Thank you for
  622. 22:27watching, and I'll see you in the next
  623. 22:29one.

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