RAW: Chris Watts' mother, Cindy Watts, questions son's plea deal — Transcript
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- 0:00I wake up every every morning just
- 0:02crying you know thinking this is not
- 0:04gonna be what's gonna happen every
- 0:07single day it's just so hard to get
- 0:11through it I just don't know how to get
- 0:17through it
- 0:23tell me about his childhood did he play
- 0:26sports was he in scouts what kinds of
- 0:28things did yes he played sports he
- 0:30played sports from the time he was five
- 0:32years old up until he was 17 and he was
- 0:37in basketball he was in baseball he was
- 0:39in football and loved NASCAR he and his
- 0:45dad went to the NASCAR races all the
- 0:47time
- 0:50loved sports he loved sports and he had
- 0:55he he was a good kid
- 0:58had two best friends and that's who he
- 1:03grew up with and still our friends with
- 1:05them today and there's nothing nothing
- 1:12that would have predicted any of this
- 1:15could have ever happened no nothing
- 1:18nothing in his childhood at all I would
- 1:23have never in a million years thought
- 1:24something like this could happen to him
- 1:27at all you didn't see things like him
- 1:30getting into fights no no no fighting he
- 1:35was quiet and he got along with people
- 1:40and he didn't start anything and he he
- 1:44was a perfect teenager tell you the
- 1:48truth he took not even Rebell he wanted
- 1:51to go to NASCAR Tech we made that
- 1:54possible for him what did he do after he
- 1:56finished school he worked at the
- 1:59dealership as service technician and was
- 2:02making good money and who loved it
- 2:05he bought a tool box
- 2:10he started lying his tools and enjoyed
- 2:17it he was doing well when and where did
- 2:22he meet Shannon they met and he liked
- 2:27her she liked him but it didn't I don't
- 2:31think that was love at first sight or
- 2:33anything they they took a little while
- 2:36and got I guess got to know each other
- 2:37and he know dated it was always a little
- 2:41a little strange that she always said a
- 2:46lot of things about Chris in front of me
- 2:48that I didn't like like this isn't the
- 2:53kind of person I would date he doesn't
- 2:58know how to do this or he doesn't know
- 3:01how to do that he looks like a skater
- 3:04boy look at his hair look how much stuff
- 3:09he puts on this hair it's just it was
- 3:10just on and on and on and I just got a
- 3:13bad feeling when they got married in
- 3:162012 do they get married in North
- 3:18Carolina they did mm-hmm how was that no
- 3:23we didn't attend really mm-hmm we didn't
- 3:26attend the kitchen in and I just
- 3:28couldn't get along and I don't I didn't
- 3:32like the way she she treated him what do
- 3:34you know about their marriage and their
- 3:37issues Oh
- 3:39very little very little he can only
- 3:42observe he I could only observe what
- 3:46what I saw when I was around them
- 3:50Christopher was always seemed anxious
- 3:54and he when she needed something I mean
- 4:00he would run he wouldn't walk he would
- 4:03run he would get it he just always
- 4:05seemed to be right there at her beck and
- 4:08call and that did that seem odd to you
- 4:15very odd it was very odd and he just
- 4:17seemed nervous so how much did you see
- 4:20them over these
- 4:21six years uh probably twice a year we
- 4:26would go out there did you stay with
- 4:29them or yeah we would stay with them and
- 4:33stay a week and then come back home
- 4:36tell me about Bella and Celeste Oh Bella
- 4:40was just like Chris just just like him
- 4:46shy cautious conservative Cece was a
- 4:53ball of fire and she was fearless
- 4:57completely fearless she just loved to
- 5:00run run run run run so they were
- 5:03wonderful it breaks my heart to know
- 5:08that they're not here they were
- 5:10beautiful children beautiful children
- 5:14what did they call you me me me how
- 5:18about Ronnie what did they call Papa do
- 5:22you think chris loves Shannon Oh God he
- 5:25loved her yes I believe he loved her at
- 5:28first I believe he did but I think as
- 5:33the years went on I think it just being
- 5:39being in a that kind of a relationship
- 5:42which the social worker even said think
- 5:46that marriage should have ended a long
- 5:48time ago Shannon's pregnancy and was
- 5:54Wendy what did Chris tell you about that
- 5:56was excited it was no I don't think he
- 6:01was I think it was a shock to him and he
- 6:05said that they have been talking about
- 6:07divorce that you know they are not they
- 6:11are not compatible anymore
- 6:13and he was not happy anymore and I
- 6:17finally thought he's finally seen the
- 6:19light and I take it Chris had never been
- 6:22in trouble with the law never he's got
- 6:25one speeding ticket you didn't even know
- 6:26about that tell me what happened when
- 6:29they were reported missing what what did
- 6:31you find out how did you find out who
- 6:33told you I think Ronnie called me Ronnie
- 6:38called me and said that they're missing
- 6:40and I thought I don't believe it I
- 6:44didn't believe they were missing I
- 6:46believe that she was going to punish
- 6:49Chris she was just going to punish him
- 6:53take the girls and just punish him I had
- 6:55no idea have anything else Christopher
- 6:59called and said mom they're searching
- 7:03the house I said okay that's fine I mean
- 7:09and I still was not worried I had been I
- 7:13was not worried
- 7:14I just thought Shannon had run off with
- 7:16girls so walk me through the sequence of
- 7:22events over the next few days the jr.
- 7:24hasn't traveled to Colorado Ronnie did
- 7:27Ronnie did and I mean Christopher let
- 7:32everybody come in her phone is there her
- 7:36purse is there everything is there and
- 7:39but there's no kids and there's no
- 7:42Shannon and I still was I was not
- 7:47worried you know I thought she has just
- 7:51gone off and I'm gonna punish you for
- 7:54this and you can worry about me
- 7:56but when Christopher called us and he
- 8:00said I said do you want us to come down
- 8:03now he said tell Dad I need him tell Dad
- 8:07I need him to come down I said what
- 8:10about me and he said no mom just stay
- 8:11just send dad and he picked him up at
- 8:14the airport and they drove to the police
- 8:16station and Chris still didn't say
- 8:19anything to him nothing he had already
- 8:23been interrogated seven hours prior to
- 8:25that he had already let the police go
- 8:28into his home search everything he had
- 8:33and he was going in for another
- 8:35interrogation the next thing after five
- 8:38hours they called Ronnie and said that
- 8:42your son wants to talk to you before he
- 8:44tells us anything and that's when
- 8:47Kristopher broke down and cried and said
- 8:50I'm sorry dad he said I went into a rage
- 8:53and I killed her
- 8:55after she killed Cece and Bella and he
- 8:58found out where he is and then they
- 8:59wouldn't let him see him he couldn't see
- 9:02him and so he was going back to the
- 9:05airport when his public defender called
- 9:09him and told him to come back so and
- 9:11that's when Ronnie meant his public
- 9:13defender and so talked to her for a
- 9:20while
- 9:21and they kept in touch with us and let
- 9:26us know what's going on and then what
- 9:27was the next update that you got was it
- 9:29the next update I got was Ronnie called
- 9:35Jaime and told him they found their
- 9:38bodies and they rushed over here nobody
- 9:43told me anything until they walked
- 9:46through the door and they told me what
- 9:49happened and I just fell to the floor I
- 9:51just fell to the floor it was it was
- 9:56unbelievable it's been unbelievable ever
- 9:59since and what did his attorneys tell
- 10:06you about contact with him you know
- 10:08starting one with his rooms no contact
- 10:11everything is recorded no contact no
- 10:15letter-writing I didn't see the harm in
- 10:18the letters you know hi son
- 10:21love you keep fighting we are here to
- 10:26support you what is wrong with that what
- 10:29can the DA do about letters like this
- 10:32why couldn't we just write him a letter
- 10:38we did were we did what we were told to
- 10:40do when they called us to tell us that
- 10:44Chris was thinking of a plea that he
- 10:47wanted to speak to us about it and when
- 10:50we got down there it was a lie they he
- 10:52they wouldn't let us talk to him about
- 10:54anything and then we had to talk to him
- 10:57through a screen and a phone
- 11:01and he just looked yeah he was crying I
- 11:07mean he he wasn't crying he was you
- 11:11could see the movement in his mouth that
- 11:12when I talked about Bella and I talked
- 11:15about Cece and the memorial service that
- 11:18we had for for them and he asked what
- 11:21kind of what pictures did we use and you
- 11:23know what was the song just you can see
- 11:26how he was trying to hold back tears
- 11:29what what day was that do you remember
- 11:32well we flew in on that Monday we flew
- 11:35in on Monday and we saw him Monday night
- 11:39and then the plea deal was on Tuesday so
- 11:42Monday night was when they when you
- 11:44wanted to talk to him yes yes and we
- 11:48weren't allowed and it would have it
- 11:51would have helped us so much to be able
- 11:55to talk to him I wouldn't have to go
- 11:57through all this now everything just
- 11:59seems to be shrouded in secrecy and and
- 12:02and just tell us what is going on let us
- 12:07ask Chris if it's okay if you talk to us
- 12:09I just don't like the way it was handled
- 12:12from the very beginning I don't like the
- 12:14way it was handled I want to save your
- 12:16life that's all we're just here we're
- 12:18going to save his life we don't we don't
- 12:23we want him to get life in prison it was
- 12:25like they already knew he was guilty and
- 12:27this was the end of it were you worried
- 12:30about the death penalty being a
- 12:31possibility no I didn't care about the
- 12:33death penalty nobody's gonna die in
- 12:36Colorado I don't think anyone has what
- 12:40one person Colorado is changing so I
- 12:47people stay on the on death row forever
- 12:50there was no I think he'd be safer on
- 12:55death row and her parents said they
- 12:58didn't want any more death so I don't
- 13:02see how the death penalty could have
- 13:03mattered all I want is the truth
- 13:06I just want the truth but that's it and
- 13:11I know Chris
- 13:14it would take responsibility and I guess
- 13:22maybe he is I don't know I don't know I
- 13:26just can't see him doing that what do
- 13:30you think the truth is about how Shannon
- 13:34Bella and Celeste I don't know anymore
- 13:38honestly I don't know his frame of mind
- 13:43and I don't know his frame of mind
- 13:45because why would you plead guilty to
- 13:49something you didn't do and that's all I
- 13:51want to know why would you plead guilty
- 13:54if you didn't do it if you told your dad
- 13:56you didn't do it and that's what I want
- 14:00to know and they said well you'll be
- 14:03you'll find all that out Christopher
- 14:05will talk to you when and after he's
- 14:09sentenced it'll isn't that too late then
- 14:11and it isn't too late what if he tells
- 14:13me no I didn't do it I just took this
- 14:16plea deal because they told me I was
- 14:17going to go to jail anyways I just want
- 14:20the truth all of us just want want the
- 14:23truth that's all but I would like to
- 14:25know what what triggered it how can a
- 14:29perfectly normal young man and he he's
- 14:33normal he was normal but he wasn't
- 14:35evaluated when he came in to the system
- 14:38he wasn't normal if you did this most
- 14:42people they're in it's bewildering to me
- 14:44it is it is absolutely how does this
- 14:47happen how did this happen and I go back
- 14:51in my mind thinking was there something
- 14:55I didn't pick up with on Chris but I
- 14:58can't think of anything except he was
- 15:00quiet it sounds like in your own mind
- 15:03you're unsure as to what happened yes
- 15:06have you
- 15:10have you reconciled the idea that he
- 15:13could have done all of this yes and that
- 15:17scares me to death
- 15:19it scares me to death to think that he
- 15:23could have done all of this and I don't
- 15:27want to go there I don't want to go
- 15:29there right now but in I don't see why
- 15:34he's pleading guilty
- 15:35I wouldn't I'd fight I'd fight to the
- 15:40end
- 15:40but then you asked yourself what a
- 15:45normal person put dispose of the bodies
- 15:50the way he did and I would have called
- 15:53911 if it happened like that what would
- 15:57you say to Chris right now if he were
- 15:59sitting here if we were by ourselves no
- 16:04I would say Christopher I need to know
- 16:08what happened that night I need to know
- 16:11what happened I've got I've got to I've
- 16:16got to get these thoughts out of my head
- 16:19I what I think could have happened but I
- 16:23need to know and I think in time he will
- 16:27tell me probably nothing you ever would
- 16:30have imagined it my first never never no
- 16:36and not not from the son that I raised
- 16:41and Ronnie raised in and our children
- 16:45you know we just we just did everything
- 16:50for them
- 16:51we worked for them and we wanted them to
- 16:55have a good good life good education and
- 16:58we stressed education and there they
- 17:04were both doing well I thought you know
- 17:08I mean marriages can be bad but you can
- 17:11get out of them and and go on but I
- 17:16don't know what was going through
- 17:17anybody's mind that night I mean I feel
- 17:22too much
- 17:23I definitely feel everything way too
- 17:25much and have a conscious the conscience
- 17:29that I just feel way too much what do
- 17:36you want to happen now what would you
- 17:37hope would happen now well I I want
- 17:44Chris to have his day in court I mean I
- 17:50need to know I mean I feel wonderful if
- 17:54I could talk to him and he could tell me
- 17:55what happened and then we can all go on
- 18:00but if he didn't do it
- 18:02if he did not do this then I need to I
- 18:06need to I need somebody to defend him I
- 18:08need someone to defend him if he did not
- 18:11do this do they have the evidence he's
- 18:17my son I got to do everything I've got
- 18:20to do everything I can to help to make
- 18:23sure that that he is defended properly
- 18:28but he said this is his decision so I
- 18:31don't know there's doubt I have doubt
- 18:35that he did I can't see that he did it I
- 18:40just cannot see him doing that as much
- 18:43as he loved his girls how do you do that
- 18:46I just don't see it I just can't see him
- 18:50doing it I just wanted to make sure that
- 18:53he has I just wanted a defense I wanted
- 18:56him to be defended and you haven't had
- 19:00any discussions with his attorneys about
- 19:02this no I asked them do you know what
- 19:08happened they said no we don't only
- 19:15person that knows what happened is Chris
- 19:18well then he's told you his story you
- 19:21know in the affidavit they said they
- 19:26would defend him if he wanted to to go
- 19:28forward but he said he didn't want to go
- 19:32forward the bottom line is you would
- 19:34have liked to have been part of
- 19:35discussion with me doesn't that's what I
- 19:38thought we were going down there for at
- 19:40least let us talk to him let us talk to
- 19:42him it would have made all the
- 19:44difference in the world if they would
- 19:46have just let us talk to him if he was
- 19:49going to do this what difference does it
- 19:51make who's who's listening but he has
- 19:55our love he has unconditional love I
- 19:57will never abandon my son he did a
- 20:00horrible horrible if that comes to pass
- 20:04that he did this then I still love him
- 20:08he's my son and I will always love him
- 20:12and a lot of people don't understand
- 20:14that and I don't understand that why
- 20:15they don't well could you talk a little
- 20:19bit about some things we talked about
- 20:21yesterday he said you know I think I
- 20:23think your exact words were he's not the
- 20:25psychopath no he isn't he's not the
- 20:27sociopath next door he's not the
- 20:29psychopath
- 20:30he didn't kill little small animals he
- 20:32didn't do any of these things he was he
- 20:35was a good child I didn't see anything I
- 20:41didn't see anything that was abnormal
- 20:44about him except he was socially awkward
- 20:48you know he had trouble socializing but
- 20:52so did I when I was younger I think you
- 20:55learned that as you grow and I think he
- 20:58felt a little bit more comfortable and
- 21:00more comfortable in his skin and he he
- 21:04he just I don't think you just had the
- 21:08right person at his side I don't that
- 21:14relationship was toxic from the very
- 21:17beginning what would you say to
- 21:19Shannon's family if you talked to them
- 21:25god I'm so sorry this happened you know
- 21:30for both our families because we both
- 21:32lost everything
- 21:34you know they lost a daughter we lost
- 21:37our son
- 21:38we lost our grandchildren we all lost
- 21:43everybody did and
- 21:48it you'll never get it back and they
- 21:52were precious they were so so precious
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