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RAW: Chris Watts' mother, Cindy Watts, questions son's plea deal — Transcript

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  1. 0:00I wake up every every morning just
  2. 0:02crying you know thinking this is not
  3. 0:04gonna be what's gonna happen every
  4. 0:07single day it's just so hard to get
  5. 0:11through it I just don't know how to get
  6. 0:17through it
  7. 0:23tell me about his childhood did he play
  8. 0:26sports was he in scouts what kinds of
  9. 0:28things did yes he played sports he
  10. 0:30played sports from the time he was five
  11. 0:32years old up until he was 17 and he was
  12. 0:37in basketball he was in baseball he was
  13. 0:39in football and loved NASCAR he and his
  14. 0:45dad went to the NASCAR races all the
  15. 0:47time
  16. 0:50loved sports he loved sports and he had
  17. 0:55he he was a good kid
  18. 0:58had two best friends and that's who he
  19. 1:03grew up with and still our friends with
  20. 1:05them today and there's nothing nothing
  21. 1:12that would have predicted any of this
  22. 1:15could have ever happened no nothing
  23. 1:18nothing in his childhood at all I would
  24. 1:23have never in a million years thought
  25. 1:24something like this could happen to him
  26. 1:27at all you didn't see things like him
  27. 1:30getting into fights no no no fighting he
  28. 1:35was quiet and he got along with people
  29. 1:40and he didn't start anything and he he
  30. 1:44was a perfect teenager tell you the
  31. 1:48truth he took not even Rebell he wanted
  32. 1:51to go to NASCAR Tech we made that
  33. 1:54possible for him what did he do after he
  34. 1:56finished school he worked at the
  35. 1:59dealership as service technician and was
  36. 2:02making good money and who loved it
  37. 2:05he bought a tool box
  38. 2:10he started lying his tools and enjoyed
  39. 2:17it he was doing well when and where did
  40. 2:22he meet Shannon they met and he liked
  41. 2:27her she liked him but it didn't I don't
  42. 2:31think that was love at first sight or
  43. 2:33anything they they took a little while
  44. 2:36and got I guess got to know each other
  45. 2:37and he know dated it was always a little
  46. 2:41a little strange that she always said a
  47. 2:46lot of things about Chris in front of me
  48. 2:48that I didn't like like this isn't the
  49. 2:53kind of person I would date he doesn't
  50. 2:58know how to do this or he doesn't know
  51. 3:01how to do that he looks like a skater
  52. 3:04boy look at his hair look how much stuff
  53. 3:09he puts on this hair it's just it was
  54. 3:10just on and on and on and I just got a
  55. 3:13bad feeling when they got married in
  56. 3:162012 do they get married in North
  57. 3:18Carolina they did mm-hmm how was that no
  58. 3:23we didn't attend really mm-hmm we didn't
  59. 3:26attend the kitchen in and I just
  60. 3:28couldn't get along and I don't I didn't
  61. 3:32like the way she she treated him what do
  62. 3:34you know about their marriage and their
  63. 3:37issues Oh
  64. 3:39very little very little he can only
  65. 3:42observe he I could only observe what
  66. 3:46what I saw when I was around them
  67. 3:50Christopher was always seemed anxious
  68. 3:54and he when she needed something I mean
  69. 4:00he would run he wouldn't walk he would
  70. 4:03run he would get it he just always
  71. 4:05seemed to be right there at her beck and
  72. 4:08call and that did that seem odd to you
  73. 4:15very odd it was very odd and he just
  74. 4:17seemed nervous so how much did you see
  75. 4:20them over these
  76. 4:21six years uh probably twice a year we
  77. 4:26would go out there did you stay with
  78. 4:29them or yeah we would stay with them and
  79. 4:33stay a week and then come back home
  80. 4:36tell me about Bella and Celeste Oh Bella
  81. 4:40was just like Chris just just like him
  82. 4:46shy cautious conservative Cece was a
  83. 4:53ball of fire and she was fearless
  84. 4:57completely fearless she just loved to
  85. 5:00run run run run run so they were
  86. 5:03wonderful it breaks my heart to know
  87. 5:08that they're not here they were
  88. 5:10beautiful children beautiful children
  89. 5:14what did they call you me me me how
  90. 5:18about Ronnie what did they call Papa do
  91. 5:22you think chris loves Shannon Oh God he
  92. 5:25loved her yes I believe he loved her at
  93. 5:28first I believe he did but I think as
  94. 5:33the years went on I think it just being
  95. 5:39being in a that kind of a relationship
  96. 5:42which the social worker even said think
  97. 5:46that marriage should have ended a long
  98. 5:48time ago Shannon's pregnancy and was
  99. 5:54Wendy what did Chris tell you about that
  100. 5:56was excited it was no I don't think he
  101. 6:01was I think it was a shock to him and he
  102. 6:05said that they have been talking about
  103. 6:07divorce that you know they are not they
  104. 6:11are not compatible anymore
  105. 6:13and he was not happy anymore and I
  106. 6:17finally thought he's finally seen the
  107. 6:19light and I take it Chris had never been
  108. 6:22in trouble with the law never he's got
  109. 6:25one speeding ticket you didn't even know
  110. 6:26about that tell me what happened when
  111. 6:29they were reported missing what what did
  112. 6:31you find out how did you find out who
  113. 6:33told you I think Ronnie called me Ronnie
  114. 6:38called me and said that they're missing
  115. 6:40and I thought I don't believe it I
  116. 6:44didn't believe they were missing I
  117. 6:46believe that she was going to punish
  118. 6:49Chris she was just going to punish him
  119. 6:53take the girls and just punish him I had
  120. 6:55no idea have anything else Christopher
  121. 6:59called and said mom they're searching
  122. 7:03the house I said okay that's fine I mean
  123. 7:09and I still was not worried I had been I
  124. 7:13was not worried
  125. 7:14I just thought Shannon had run off with
  126. 7:16girls so walk me through the sequence of
  127. 7:22events over the next few days the jr.
  128. 7:24hasn't traveled to Colorado Ronnie did
  129. 7:27Ronnie did and I mean Christopher let
  130. 7:32everybody come in her phone is there her
  131. 7:36purse is there everything is there and
  132. 7:39but there's no kids and there's no
  133. 7:42Shannon and I still was I was not
  134. 7:47worried you know I thought she has just
  135. 7:51gone off and I'm gonna punish you for
  136. 7:54this and you can worry about me
  137. 7:56but when Christopher called us and he
  138. 8:00said I said do you want us to come down
  139. 8:03now he said tell Dad I need him tell Dad
  140. 8:07I need him to come down I said what
  141. 8:10about me and he said no mom just stay
  142. 8:11just send dad and he picked him up at
  143. 8:14the airport and they drove to the police
  144. 8:16station and Chris still didn't say
  145. 8:19anything to him nothing he had already
  146. 8:23been interrogated seven hours prior to
  147. 8:25that he had already let the police go
  148. 8:28into his home search everything he had
  149. 8:33and he was going in for another
  150. 8:35interrogation the next thing after five
  151. 8:38hours they called Ronnie and said that
  152. 8:42your son wants to talk to you before he
  153. 8:44tells us anything and that's when
  154. 8:47Kristopher broke down and cried and said
  155. 8:50I'm sorry dad he said I went into a rage
  156. 8:53and I killed her
  157. 8:55after she killed Cece and Bella and he
  158. 8:58found out where he is and then they
  159. 8:59wouldn't let him see him he couldn't see
  160. 9:02him and so he was going back to the
  161. 9:05airport when his public defender called
  162. 9:09him and told him to come back so and
  163. 9:11that's when Ronnie meant his public
  164. 9:13defender and so talked to her for a
  165. 9:20while
  166. 9:21and they kept in touch with us and let
  167. 9:26us know what's going on and then what
  168. 9:27was the next update that you got was it
  169. 9:29the next update I got was Ronnie called
  170. 9:35Jaime and told him they found their
  171. 9:38bodies and they rushed over here nobody
  172. 9:43told me anything until they walked
  173. 9:46through the door and they told me what
  174. 9:49happened and I just fell to the floor I
  175. 9:51just fell to the floor it was it was
  176. 9:56unbelievable it's been unbelievable ever
  177. 9:59since and what did his attorneys tell
  178. 10:06you about contact with him you know
  179. 10:08starting one with his rooms no contact
  180. 10:11everything is recorded no contact no
  181. 10:15letter-writing I didn't see the harm in
  182. 10:18the letters you know hi son
  183. 10:21love you keep fighting we are here to
  184. 10:26support you what is wrong with that what
  185. 10:29can the DA do about letters like this
  186. 10:32why couldn't we just write him a letter
  187. 10:38we did were we did what we were told to
  188. 10:40do when they called us to tell us that
  189. 10:44Chris was thinking of a plea that he
  190. 10:47wanted to speak to us about it and when
  191. 10:50we got down there it was a lie they he
  192. 10:52they wouldn't let us talk to him about
  193. 10:54anything and then we had to talk to him
  194. 10:57through a screen and a phone
  195. 11:01and he just looked yeah he was crying I
  196. 11:07mean he he wasn't crying he was you
  197. 11:11could see the movement in his mouth that
  198. 11:12when I talked about Bella and I talked
  199. 11:15about Cece and the memorial service that
  200. 11:18we had for for them and he asked what
  201. 11:21kind of what pictures did we use and you
  202. 11:23know what was the song just you can see
  203. 11:26how he was trying to hold back tears
  204. 11:29what what day was that do you remember
  205. 11:32well we flew in on that Monday we flew
  206. 11:35in on Monday and we saw him Monday night
  207. 11:39and then the plea deal was on Tuesday so
  208. 11:42Monday night was when they when you
  209. 11:44wanted to talk to him yes yes and we
  210. 11:48weren't allowed and it would have it
  211. 11:51would have helped us so much to be able
  212. 11:55to talk to him I wouldn't have to go
  213. 11:57through all this now everything just
  214. 11:59seems to be shrouded in secrecy and and
  215. 12:02and just tell us what is going on let us
  216. 12:07ask Chris if it's okay if you talk to us
  217. 12:09I just don't like the way it was handled
  218. 12:12from the very beginning I don't like the
  219. 12:14way it was handled I want to save your
  220. 12:16life that's all we're just here we're
  221. 12:18going to save his life we don't we don't
  222. 12:23we want him to get life in prison it was
  223. 12:25like they already knew he was guilty and
  224. 12:27this was the end of it were you worried
  225. 12:30about the death penalty being a
  226. 12:31possibility no I didn't care about the
  227. 12:33death penalty nobody's gonna die in
  228. 12:36Colorado I don't think anyone has what
  229. 12:40one person Colorado is changing so I
  230. 12:47people stay on the on death row forever
  231. 12:50there was no I think he'd be safer on
  232. 12:55death row and her parents said they
  233. 12:58didn't want any more death so I don't
  234. 13:02see how the death penalty could have
  235. 13:03mattered all I want is the truth
  236. 13:06I just want the truth but that's it and
  237. 13:11I know Chris
  238. 13:14it would take responsibility and I guess
  239. 13:22maybe he is I don't know I don't know I
  240. 13:26just can't see him doing that what do
  241. 13:30you think the truth is about how Shannon
  242. 13:34Bella and Celeste I don't know anymore
  243. 13:38honestly I don't know his frame of mind
  244. 13:43and I don't know his frame of mind
  245. 13:45because why would you plead guilty to
  246. 13:49something you didn't do and that's all I
  247. 13:51want to know why would you plead guilty
  248. 13:54if you didn't do it if you told your dad
  249. 13:56you didn't do it and that's what I want
  250. 14:00to know and they said well you'll be
  251. 14:03you'll find all that out Christopher
  252. 14:05will talk to you when and after he's
  253. 14:09sentenced it'll isn't that too late then
  254. 14:11and it isn't too late what if he tells
  255. 14:13me no I didn't do it I just took this
  256. 14:16plea deal because they told me I was
  257. 14:17going to go to jail anyways I just want
  258. 14:20the truth all of us just want want the
  259. 14:23truth that's all but I would like to
  260. 14:25know what what triggered it how can a
  261. 14:29perfectly normal young man and he he's
  262. 14:33normal he was normal but he wasn't
  263. 14:35evaluated when he came in to the system
  264. 14:38he wasn't normal if you did this most
  265. 14:42people they're in it's bewildering to me
  266. 14:44it is it is absolutely how does this
  267. 14:47happen how did this happen and I go back
  268. 14:51in my mind thinking was there something
  269. 14:55I didn't pick up with on Chris but I
  270. 14:58can't think of anything except he was
  271. 15:00quiet it sounds like in your own mind
  272. 15:03you're unsure as to what happened yes
  273. 15:06have you
  274. 15:10have you reconciled the idea that he
  275. 15:13could have done all of this yes and that
  276. 15:17scares me to death
  277. 15:19it scares me to death to think that he
  278. 15:23could have done all of this and I don't
  279. 15:27want to go there I don't want to go
  280. 15:29there right now but in I don't see why
  281. 15:34he's pleading guilty
  282. 15:35I wouldn't I'd fight I'd fight to the
  283. 15:40end
  284. 15:40but then you asked yourself what a
  285. 15:45normal person put dispose of the bodies
  286. 15:50the way he did and I would have called
  287. 15:53911 if it happened like that what would
  288. 15:57you say to Chris right now if he were
  289. 15:59sitting here if we were by ourselves no
  290. 16:04I would say Christopher I need to know
  291. 16:08what happened that night I need to know
  292. 16:11what happened I've got I've got to I've
  293. 16:16got to get these thoughts out of my head
  294. 16:19I what I think could have happened but I
  295. 16:23need to know and I think in time he will
  296. 16:27tell me probably nothing you ever would
  297. 16:30have imagined it my first never never no
  298. 16:36and not not from the son that I raised
  299. 16:41and Ronnie raised in and our children
  300. 16:45you know we just we just did everything
  301. 16:50for them
  302. 16:51we worked for them and we wanted them to
  303. 16:55have a good good life good education and
  304. 16:58we stressed education and there they
  305. 17:04were both doing well I thought you know
  306. 17:08I mean marriages can be bad but you can
  307. 17:11get out of them and and go on but I
  308. 17:16don't know what was going through
  309. 17:17anybody's mind that night I mean I feel
  310. 17:22too much
  311. 17:23I definitely feel everything way too
  312. 17:25much and have a conscious the conscience
  313. 17:29that I just feel way too much what do
  314. 17:36you want to happen now what would you
  315. 17:37hope would happen now well I I want
  316. 17:44Chris to have his day in court I mean I
  317. 17:50need to know I mean I feel wonderful if
  318. 17:54I could talk to him and he could tell me
  319. 17:55what happened and then we can all go on
  320. 18:00but if he didn't do it
  321. 18:02if he did not do this then I need to I
  322. 18:06need to I need somebody to defend him I
  323. 18:08need someone to defend him if he did not
  324. 18:11do this do they have the evidence he's
  325. 18:17my son I got to do everything I've got
  326. 18:20to do everything I can to help to make
  327. 18:23sure that that he is defended properly
  328. 18:28but he said this is his decision so I
  329. 18:31don't know there's doubt I have doubt
  330. 18:35that he did I can't see that he did it I
  331. 18:40just cannot see him doing that as much
  332. 18:43as he loved his girls how do you do that
  333. 18:46I just don't see it I just can't see him
  334. 18:50doing it I just wanted to make sure that
  335. 18:53he has I just wanted a defense I wanted
  336. 18:56him to be defended and you haven't had
  337. 19:00any discussions with his attorneys about
  338. 19:02this no I asked them do you know what
  339. 19:08happened they said no we don't only
  340. 19:15person that knows what happened is Chris
  341. 19:18well then he's told you his story you
  342. 19:21know in the affidavit they said they
  343. 19:26would defend him if he wanted to to go
  344. 19:28forward but he said he didn't want to go
  345. 19:32forward the bottom line is you would
  346. 19:34have liked to have been part of
  347. 19:35discussion with me doesn't that's what I
  348. 19:38thought we were going down there for at
  349. 19:40least let us talk to him let us talk to
  350. 19:42him it would have made all the
  351. 19:44difference in the world if they would
  352. 19:46have just let us talk to him if he was
  353. 19:49going to do this what difference does it
  354. 19:51make who's who's listening but he has
  355. 19:55our love he has unconditional love I
  356. 19:57will never abandon my son he did a
  357. 20:00horrible horrible if that comes to pass
  358. 20:04that he did this then I still love him
  359. 20:08he's my son and I will always love him
  360. 20:12and a lot of people don't understand
  361. 20:14that and I don't understand that why
  362. 20:15they don't well could you talk a little
  363. 20:19bit about some things we talked about
  364. 20:21yesterday he said you know I think I
  365. 20:23think your exact words were he's not the
  366. 20:25psychopath no he isn't he's not the
  367. 20:27sociopath next door he's not the
  368. 20:29psychopath
  369. 20:30he didn't kill little small animals he
  370. 20:32didn't do any of these things he was he
  371. 20:35was a good child I didn't see anything I
  372. 20:41didn't see anything that was abnormal
  373. 20:44about him except he was socially awkward
  374. 20:48you know he had trouble socializing but
  375. 20:52so did I when I was younger I think you
  376. 20:55learned that as you grow and I think he
  377. 20:58felt a little bit more comfortable and
  378. 21:00more comfortable in his skin and he he
  379. 21:04he just I don't think you just had the
  380. 21:08right person at his side I don't that
  381. 21:14relationship was toxic from the very
  382. 21:17beginning what would you say to
  383. 21:19Shannon's family if you talked to them
  384. 21:25god I'm so sorry this happened you know
  385. 21:30for both our families because we both
  386. 21:32lost everything
  387. 21:34you know they lost a daughter we lost
  388. 21:37our son
  389. 21:38we lost our grandchildren we all lost
  390. 21:43everybody did and
  391. 21:48it you'll never get it back and they
  392. 21:52were precious they were so so precious

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