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  1. 0:00now it's the last thing you saw her
  2. 0:01which one she was laying in bed when she
  3. 0:03was alive and kind of having makeup run
  4. 0:05down her face obviously that would be
  5. 0:08you wouldn't know where she is right
  6. 0:09because obviously right now we can't
  7. 0:11find her that make sense to you to all
  8. 0:13those questions make sense to you so
  9. 0:16what what would you answer to all of
  10. 0:17those questions I had nothing to do with
  11. 0:20what's going on right now I did not
  12. 0:23physically harm her I mean I did last
  13. 0:26time I saw her was in bed letting on her
  14. 0:31side with some mascara on her face after
  15. 0:34we had a conversation and I do not know
  16. 0:38where she is right now both of them yes
  17. 0:42so you nail them perfectly and who do
  18. 0:46you think would have hurt in the girls
  19. 0:49home do you think would have done
  20. 0:51something to them
  21. 0:52honestly like they've exhausted like
  22. 0:54every option that we have of people that
  23. 0:56know like even if it's kind of crazy
  24. 0:58like what is your one go to like thought
  25. 1:01about what could have happened that
  26. 1:06somebody I don't know and I don't know
  27. 1:09who they are or what they're about and
  28. 1:10that
  29. 1:11have her and the kids and that I'm not
  30. 1:14safe right now and that they've been
  31. 1:17physically hurt so obviously like I said
  32. 1:21we kind of have to expect the worst and
  33. 1:24hope for the best if we do end up
  34. 1:27finding your wife and your two girls
  35. 1:29murdered what do you think should happen
  36. 1:31to that person that would have done that
  37. 1:35first possible thing
  38. 1:41t-there going to be like life in prison
  39. 1:42or the death penalty isn't it that's the
  40. 1:45only two things you really can do that's
  41. 1:49only really is that you're talented you
  42. 1:51have are there some people are only
  43. 1:53launched that person's really screwed up
  44. 1:55and maybe they deserve some you know I
  45. 1:59did not give this my my wife and my kids
  46. 2:03like from a neutral perspective and
  47. 2:05should be different that's my wife and
  48. 2:07kids do you know anything else about
  49. 2:13answer anything you haven't told
  50. 2:14detectives that you wanna share that's
  51. 2:16today we make sauces every option of
  52. 2:21trying to reach out to friends and
  53. 2:23family that may have seen her heard from
  54. 2:25her so it's like we have like nothing
  55. 2:30really else to like go off of right now
  56. 2:33as far as like who could have her or
  57. 2:37where she to be
  58. 2:42I'm gonna have you take a bathroom break
  59. 2:44in here for a while I get one as well
  60. 2:47and let me find out which path you are
  61. 2:50eligible to use hopefully one of them
  62. 2:52will come in here and help us firm
  63. 2:54figure out which bathroom and we're
  64. 2:55going to come back in here and then
  65. 2:56again I tell you how why the polygraph
  66. 2:58works and we're just going to get kind
  67. 3:00of into the testing you know that's cool
  68. 3:01with you okay if you already know what
  69. 3:03the questions are that I care about Joe
  70. 3:05okay all right so let me see if I can
  71. 3:08direct you to the bathroom
  72. 3:19it's hard to obviously out to lobby and
  73. 3:22I'll try to sit right there real quick
  74. 3:24and then I'll congratulate here how you
  75. 3:26take a look you whatever sorry your
  76. 3:28pockets Wow
  77. 7:36[Music]
  78. 8:21[Music]
  79. 8:24oh yeah
  80. 9:29charcuterie oh good
  81. 9:34Oh baby okay do you want to melt do oh
  82. 9:39no no I'll do it
  83. 9:41I'm feeling like now that like years
  84. 9:45don't start now all right you have any
  85. 9:49bad habits uh I used to like Orioles and
  86. 9:53so ever my my go to during the pregnancy
  87. 9:56yeah what kind of somebody's you like
  88. 10:00under disease of love that is everyone
  89. 10:04work makes fun of me for drinking it oh
  90. 10:06my favorite like the Baja blast I'll do
  91. 10:09okay in like that because all they still
  92. 10:11have it
  93. 10:12amount for it was steak quesadilla not
  94. 10:17knew about how glasses might go - let's
  95. 10:21go over the questions they're getting on
  96. 10:22the test is that cool with you just
  97. 10:24thing you know the works at Ellen
  98. 10:25questions and there's no surprises and
  99. 10:27that kind of stuff okay remember one my
  100. 10:30love my breathe like there's missus yeah
  101. 10:32I want to find all that to go if you're
  102. 10:35actually still a person you still have
  103. 10:37functions that have to go on for you to
  104. 10:39be alive so yes you have to you will be
  105. 10:41able to breathe and we just don't want
  106. 10:43you to move a bunch there's a desk and
  107. 10:46I'll explain that to you it's for very
  108. 10:47short periods of time and I have no
  109. 10:49doubt being a healthy guy like you are
  110. 10:51that you'll have no problem doing that
  111. 10:53okay
  112. 10:59I had like 15 year old boys up to like
  113. 11:05in five year old men that are able to
  114. 11:07sit still just during the polygraph self
  115. 11:09or I've no doubt someone like you is
  116. 11:11more than able to sit still or okay so
  117. 11:15we're going to go over the Parsons or
  118. 11:16even on the test like I said on this
  119. 11:17show you every single question there's
  120. 11:19not a question I'm just going to add you
  121. 11:21know for the thrill event or anything
  122. 11:23like that you know other work so the
  123. 11:25first question is going to be on the
  124. 11:26test it's going to be regarding
  125. 11:27Shannon's disappearance do you intend to
  126. 11:30answer all the questions truthfully yes
  127. 11:32and you're only going to get to answer
  128. 11:35yes or no to these questions okay oh so
  129. 11:38it's easy because you know you there
  130. 11:41should be no questioning your mind
  131. 11:42whether you need to answer yes or no to
  132. 11:44the questions okay
  133. 11:45for the first relevant question that I'm
  134. 11:48going to ask that we had already gone
  135. 11:50over it's going to be teaching
  136. 11:51physically cause your name's
  137. 11:52disappearance no are you lying about the
  138. 11:56left I'm you shot you saw Shannon
  139. 11:58no I'm saying her name right okay and
  140. 12:02then do you know where Shannon is now
  141. 12:05okay so
  142. 12:06three that we'd already discussed before
  143. 12:08right so physically causing someone's
  144. 12:10disappearances either you know obviously
  145. 12:12harming them to the point where they you
  146. 12:14know are either dead or tend to longer
  147. 12:17functional you know maybe you left them
  148. 12:19for dead you know in some field
  149. 12:20somewhere or something like that so
  150. 12:23maybe they weren't actually deceased but
  151. 12:25you know that you would have been the
  152. 12:26Cod direct cause of their disappearance
  153. 12:28okay
  154. 12:28so that makes my students okay and then
  155. 12:31obviously lying with left forearm that
  156. 12:34would be because maybe you help someone
  157. 12:36or you did it yourself or something like
  158. 12:38that and then you hoped dispose of them
  159. 12:40or put them somewhere lock the lock
  160. 12:41somewhere or whatever okay and then
  161. 12:45knowing where she is now
  162. 12:47again that would be either some kind of
  163. 12:49direct knowledge like you either side
  164. 12:50you did it you know where you put them
  165. 12:52or someone told you where they are
  166. 12:54something like that or if [ __ ] Ian
  167. 12:56called you at the store Matt but you
  168. 12:59that kind of stuff okay that makes sense
  169. 13:02objections
  170. 13:03okay you're going to be taking what's
  171. 13:05called a directed live polygraphs so
  172. 13:07what that means is they're going to be
  173. 13:09test questions on the test where I'm
  174. 13:10wanting you to lie because I want to see
  175. 13:13what your body looks like when you tell
  176. 13:14a lie on the tempters okay I know it
  177. 13:17seems kind of weird but you're going to
  178. 13:18know which questions these are they're
  179. 13:19going to be easy to answer so it's going
  180. 13:22to be like they're all going to start
  181. 13:23with before 2018 so this first one is
  182. 13:27before 2018 did you ever lose your
  183. 13:29temper with someone you cared about
  184. 13:31we've all lost our temper which I've
  185. 13:33always cared about in our life so I want
  186. 13:35you to think about you want to tell me
  187. 13:36what it is but I want you to actually
  188. 13:38have that moment in your mind when you
  189. 13:41actually lost your temper with someone
  190. 13:42you cared about today whether
  191. 13:45positioning a mother with your parents
  192. 13:46whether with your children I mean it
  193. 13:48could be with anyone but it was no right
  194. 13:50to say no to them yes so you're going to
  195. 13:53actually lie to that question since we
  196. 13:54all have lots of our temper with someone
  197. 13:56we cared about in the before so I'm
  198. 13:58going to say before 2018 did you ever
  199. 14:00lose your temper with someone you cared
  200. 14:02about and you're going to trade no
  201. 14:04because you're telling us why awesome
  202. 14:06the next one of those four they're like
  203. 14:08three
  204. 14:09the next one's going to be before 2018
  205. 14:11remember it's all going to start with
  206. 14:12that before 2018 do you ever hear that a
  207. 14:15the test that is your clue to go crap
  208. 14:17this is a question I have to lie to on
  209. 14:19the test okay so this one's going to be
  210. 14:21before 2018 did you ever say anything
  211. 14:23out of anger to a loved one it's going
  212. 14:26to be well we've also something out of
  213. 14:29anger to a loved one but I want you to
  214. 14:31take a minute and actually think of a
  215. 14:33time when you've actually said something
  216. 14:35out of anger to a loved one you have to
  217. 14:37have been in your head yeah okay they
  218. 14:41want you to actually think of that when
  219. 14:43you answer this question on the test
  220. 14:45okay
  221. 14:46so again before 2018 did you ever see
  222. 14:48anything out of anger to a loved one
  223. 14:50you're going to say okay you're telling
  224. 14:51us the last one is before 2018 have you
  225. 14:56ever wanted to hurt someone to be even
  226. 14:57with them now that you actually hurt
  227. 14:59them but that maybe they pissed you off
  228. 15:01so bad you know that you were like oh I
  229. 15:03can touch that guy in the face right now
  230. 15:05or you know whatever not that you
  231. 15:06actually ended up even hurting anyone
  232. 15:08but that you ever thought about hurting
  233. 15:10someone
  234. 15:11with them so I want you to take a moment
  235. 15:13and think about our time and just make
  236. 15:16sure that you do have something in your
  237. 15:18head
  238. 15:23got it so when I ask you to course on
  239. 15:26the touch before 2018 have you ever
  240. 15:28wanted to hurt someone to be even with
  241. 15:30them you're going to say no because
  242. 15:32you're telling us why awesome the next
  243. 15:35questions are that are what we call no
  244. 15:37truth questions they're going to be
  245. 15:38really easy to enter so it's going to be
  246. 15:40is your first name Christopher yes good
  247. 15:44were you born in 1985 yes are you now in
  248. 15:47the state of Colorado yes are you now
  249. 15:49sitting down yes are the lights on in
  250. 15:52this room yes do you understand that I
  251. 15:55will only ask you the questions we have
  252. 15:56discussed that's the last question okay
  253. 15:59so we just went through every single
  254. 16:01question on the test okay so the only
  255. 16:04questions that you'll hear come out of
  256. 16:05my mouth okay so let me go through those
  257. 16:07one more time and you just say yes or no
  258. 16:09how you would answer them on the test
  259. 16:10okay regarding Shannon's disappearance
  260. 16:14do you intend to answer all the
  261. 16:16questions truthfully yes did you
  262. 16:19physically caution and disappearance no
  263. 16:22are you lying about the last time you
  264. 16:24saw Shannon no do you know where Shannon
  265. 16:28is now
  266. 16:28No and before 2018 did you ever lose
  267. 16:33your temper with someone you cared about
  268. 16:35no before 2018 did you ever see anything
  269. 16:39out of anger to a loved one know her
  270. 16:42fortune as an 18 have you ever wanted to
  271. 16:44hurt someone to get even with them no is
  272. 16:47your first thing Christopher yes were
  273. 16:51you born in 1985 yes are you now in the
  274. 16:54state of Colorado yes are you now
  275. 16:57shutting down yes are the lights out in
  276. 16:59this room yes do you understand that I
  277. 17:02will only ask you the questions that we
  278. 17:04have discussed yes okay that's it any of
  279. 17:08those questions give you any heartburn
  280. 17:10or make you go WOW I'm just like my
  281. 17:14heart's kind of still like dirt like is
  282. 17:17this whole like prank and this is not a
  283. 17:19like process that where you shouldn't be
  284. 17:22nervous so so that is to be expected ago
  285. 17:25we find it like I told you before that's
  286. 17:26not gonna con you to fail the test or
  287. 17:29anything like that confirm no one would
  288. 17:30take the test if that's what it went off
  289. 17:32of okay okay that's just what I feel
  290. 17:36right now it's like I don't know like
  291. 17:37did you do any research on polygraph no
  292. 17:40I
  293. 17:41like Oh all I know is like when I watch
  294. 17:44Vietnam TV at all I see is like you know
  295. 17:46this right here and then like that that
  296. 17:50looks like but you just doze off your
  297. 17:52heart rate or what what is the deal
  298. 17:54yeah I don't explain all those
  299. 17:55components that I'm going to put on you
  300. 17:57so no like I mean I came in here my
  301. 17:59heart's going a million miles a minute
  302. 18:01and it's at the stop
  303. 18:02yeah so and you'll notice too that the
  304. 18:06second the second I put all the
  305. 18:10components on you that's when it really
  306. 18:11feels like oh [ __ ] just got real
  307. 18:13like that's just everyone has that oh
  308. 18:15[ __ ] moment right when everything gets
  309. 18:17attached because you're like oh crap
  310. 18:20so I promise I I will get you through
  311. 18:24this okay
  312. 18:25just one sec
  313. 18:32have you ever been pulled over before
  314. 18:34yes okay I don't most thing oh oh I get
  315. 18:40you're pulled over a lot hmm cool yes oh
  316. 18:43good so I've been explained polygraph in
  317. 18:45a way that makes the most sense to me so
  318. 18:47I just assume it makes the most sense to
  319. 18:49other people okay
  320. 18:50so just bear with me I like to ask
  321. 18:52people about a time that they got pulled
  322. 18:55over you know and how they felt when you
  323. 18:58realize they were getting pulled over by
  324. 18:59the police you know that moment when
  325. 19:00you're pressing a hill you see a cop on
  326. 19:03the side of the road or going to go
  327. 19:05around a corner that you cop there or
  328. 19:07all of a sudden you bring the flashing
  329. 19:08lights you move everywhere and I usually
  330. 19:10ask you um like just describe how you
  331. 19:12felt when you realize you're getting
  332. 19:13pulled over by the police it's kind of
  333. 19:15right for it right now if so you know
  334. 19:16most people have the heart beating out
  335. 19:19of the chance they kind of start
  336. 19:20hyperventilating some people get mad
  337. 19:22it said well all the things are
  338. 19:24happening inside your body when you
  339. 19:25realize you're getting pulled over by
  340. 19:27the police are actually being regulated
  341. 19:28by your autonomic nervous systems okay
  342. 19:31excuse me you kind of sound like
  343. 19:33automatic that's basically what it is
  344. 19:35whenever your brain senses that you're
  345. 19:36in a stressful or threatening situation
  346. 19:38it automatically kicks in these
  347. 19:40physiological changes inside your body
  348. 19:41because it thinks it needs now to keep
  349. 19:43you alive okay if you heard a fight
  350. 19:45flight or freeze before so excuse me
  351. 19:48Chris you're walking in the woods you
  352. 19:49hear a bear growl you're going to fight
  353. 19:51the very afraid you're going to run away
  354. 19:52okay your brain going you're no real
  355. 19:54over it now you can't only process the
  356. 19:56tapping so I'm going to give you three
  357. 19:58options to help keep you alive okay so a
  358. 20:00lot of people are like what the hell
  359. 20:01does that have to do with telling a lie
  360. 20:03well I'm sure you would agree from a
  361. 20:05very young age your father taught you
  362. 20:07you know that's wrong to lie cheat or
  363. 20:09steal would you agree with that and that
  364. 20:12there's consequences when you lie to
  365. 20:13your skill would you agree with that so
  366. 20:16if I ask you a question Chris and I say
  367. 20:17did you do whatever and the word no
  368. 20:20comes out of your mouth your brain will
  369. 20:22automatically sense that as I've
  370. 20:23stressful or threatening situation
  371. 20:25because it no search consequences with
  372. 20:27that lying just told there's a Verity of
  373. 20:29it it really doesn't matter to your
  374. 20:30brain I mean it you could get grounded
  375. 20:32Friday night or you could for the rest
  376. 20:33your life in prison your brain early to
  377. 20:35generally differ
  378. 20:3624:18 of the consequence which is no
  379. 20:39holy cow you told a lie there's
  380. 20:40consequences with those lies and in
  381. 20:42special same physiological changes
  382. 20:44inside your body okay the same thing
  383. 20:46that we're happening when you heard the
  384. 20:47bare ground the woods the same things
  385. 20:48that were happening when you realized
  386. 20:50you were getting pulled over by the
  387. 20:51police okay so so the awesome thing
  388. 20:53about pi r f is I get to measure what's
  389. 20:54going on inside your body when you're
  390. 20:56answering questions on the test okay and
  391. 20:58I do that by attaching these components
  392. 21:01to you okay in ropes by those here in
  393. 21:04just a minute and I've already told you
  394. 21:06on the touch like you're gonna have
  395. 21:07questions on the test where I know
  396. 21:08you're telling the truth like is your
  397. 21:10name first name Christopher and I have
  398. 21:12questions on the test where I know
  399. 21:13you're telling a lie about hurting ever
  400. 21:15seen anything hurt a loved one or you
  401. 21:17know those types of questions so I get
  402. 21:20to see what your body looks like on the
  403. 21:21inside well I know you're telling a
  404. 21:22truth and I know you're telling a lie
  405. 21:24and then I get to compare that to the
  406. 21:25relevant questions about the if you
  407. 21:28physically cause you Nance disappearance
  408. 21:30if your are you lying about the last
  409. 21:32thing you saw and if you know where she
  410. 21:33is now and I get to compare those to
  411. 21:35those questions that make sense to you
  412. 21:37and I feel like I felt this is the
  413. 21:40heartbeat thing that's what we think
  414. 21:42that I thought it was men met Rodolfo
  415. 21:43you know I just think you know like a
  416. 21:45lot of people are like well my heart's
  417. 21:47beating out of my chest
  418. 21:48you are your own baseline like I'm not
  419. 21:51comparing you against the guy
  420. 21:52I did last week or you know someone I
  421. 21:55did ten months ago so your heartbeat is
  422. 21:59up here that's just where you're at like
  423. 22:01that's your baseline for me today okay
  424. 22:03and then when you react you're just
  425. 22:05going to react up here some of there's a
  426. 22:07little more calm or you know maybe they
  427. 22:09you know they're don't believe your
  428. 22:11heart actually not beating as fast
  429. 22:12they're going to be their baseline maybe
  430. 22:14going to be down here but they're going
  431. 22:15to have that chain reaction does that
  432. 22:17make sense so if you're both going to
  433. 22:18have the same reaction you're just going
  434. 22:20to have different baselines okay so I'm
  435. 22:22actually the component ever'body no ox I
  436. 22:24think it makes the most sense but I do
  437. 22:26need to kind of move your chair a little
  438. 22:27bit and I'm going to actually have you
  439. 22:29can we set these down on the floor like
  440. 22:32that slow is that cool with your water
  441. 22:36just a little bit because I'm going to
  442. 22:39put your arm up here and you can have a
  443. 22:46feedback so the first thing that we're
  444. 22:48going to put on Chris is your called
  445. 22:52move across to the blue one's going to
  446. 22:55go coming down by your belly the silver
  447. 22:57one goes up a little higher underneath
  448. 22:59your armpits okay if you're going to
  449. 23:00measure involuntary movements in your
  450. 23:02chest cavity during the test okay so
  451. 23:04what I need to do is particular together
  452. 23:05like a dive in our swimming pool put
  453. 23:07your wrist on top of your head I'll pop
  454. 23:09your head okay and then just lean
  455. 23:11forward slightly so your backs off the
  456. 23:14back of the chair perfect
  457. 23:17the other thing
  458. 23:22if anytime like there's still to tie it
  459. 23:24or whatever just let me know okay sits
  460. 23:26and I can adjust it for you pretty
  461. 23:29skinny though want to make sure it's not
  462. 23:31I'll fall down too far after hands up
  463. 23:34I'm going to do summer one
  464. 23:48until it gets too much personal okay
  465. 23:51folder okay the next thing we use um you
  466. 24:00put your hands for I'm sorry groups with
  467. 24:02a blood pressure cuff this is the same
  468. 24:05kind of Russian blood pressure cuff you
  469. 24:06would find in a doctor's office
  470. 24:07how do they're trying to get your blood
  471. 24:09pressure when you're in I use this to
  472. 24:11measure the rate of blood flow through
  473. 24:12your body during the test it was
  474. 24:14actually found it's much more we get a
  475. 24:17much better reading if we put on your
  476. 24:18cap instead of your arms or you okay
  477. 24:20maybe you put on your cap so just go
  478. 24:23ahead put that leg just right straight
  479. 24:24up in the air for me
  480. 24:36okay go ahead and put down the only
  481. 24:38thing about doing it on the café's we
  482. 24:40just have to make sure we don't step on
  483. 24:41it and it doesn't rub against for back
  484. 24:43which I think you'll be fine
  485. 24:44just make sure they don't step on the
  486. 24:46cord okay and then the last thing we use
  487. 24:48these are called electrodermal activity
  488. 24:50activity place in layman's terms are
  489. 24:53just going to measure your sweat gland
  490. 24:54activity during the test okay that's why
  491. 24:57I need your or maybe we should screw you
  492. 25:04back to sit out so okay spread your
  493. 25:11fingers out for me
  494. 25:13put them up just a little bit there you
  495. 25:21did you know we use me okay how about
  496. 25:23you there's all right it's usually all
  497. 25:27people see sometimes we'll build the
  498. 25:29blood pressure cuff
  499. 25:34and with these like during the test the
  500. 25:37important thing about those is that we
  501. 25:38just want to kind of put your hand kind
  502. 25:41of dead on the table we don't want to
  503. 25:42push down we don't want to pull up
  504. 25:44anything like that so all yours
  505. 25:45you're just going to be completely flat
  506. 25:47on the table and just panel that you're
  507. 25:48here arm go lip and your hand go limp
  508. 25:50okay during the testing Olga right now
  509. 25:53you can move around you can do what you
  510. 25:55put it in your lap whatever it's not
  511. 25:56gonna hurt it do you want sugar water
  512. 26:00I'll be okay what's the bat for the bat
  513. 26:10actually one oh sorry
  514. 26:12and we're going to discuss a bunch of
  515. 26:14motions in Zermatt what that does is
  516. 26:18obviously detect motion and then
  517. 26:20movement in your body so that's how
  518. 26:22important it will be that you remain
  519. 26:23completely still during the testing if
  520. 26:26you move your little toes you know with
  521. 26:28lifting weights up everything happens
  522. 26:30from your core you move your little toe
  523. 26:32obviously it's going to register on my
  524. 26:34on my feet pad so it's very very
  525. 26:36sensitive so that's how important do you
  526. 26:39completely still to the probably most
  527. 26:42cameras on my like folders yeah just
  528. 26:47file and you get it so we're going to go
  529. 26:49over uh Tecna dressed like this like
  530. 26:51memory not an enormous area those
  531. 26:55limiters my head connects
  532. 26:56actually try not to suck in a little bit
  533. 27:01there we go
  534. 27:07there it'll be better for sure is that
  535. 27:10to tiny town that's tighter but this far
  536. 27:15- we're good
  537. 27:17okay this is this type is good thing so
  538. 27:21we're going to go over a pretext now and
  539. 27:24then I'll explain how I need you to fill
  540. 27:25in all that and then we get into the
  541. 27:27actual testing okay so this is what we
  542. 27:30call a directed live back dish test okay
  543. 27:33and I'm going my chair over here
  544. 27:44so obviously a directive a practice test
  545. 27:47kind of gets you a indication that I
  546. 27:49probably want you to lie on the practice
  547. 27:50x-ray I don't want you to lie yet I will
  548. 27:53tell you what at that point that I want
  549. 27:55you to lie okay look how many numbers
  550. 27:58you see on this piece of paper or which
  551. 28:00one's been trained three I want you to
  552. 28:02write the number three on the line where
  553. 28:04it's anything okay person you can use
  554. 28:06your right or your left hand are you
  555. 28:08writing projecting right okay pretty
  556. 28:14good okay the lifetime mm-hmm so this is
  557. 28:18the drawer to my practice ten so what
  558. 28:20that means is I'm going to ask you if
  559. 28:22you row every single number on this
  560. 28:24piece of paper okay so I want you to be
  561. 28:27truthful to all the numbers but I want
  562. 28:29you to light that when I asked you if
  563. 28:30you wrote the number three you really
  564. 28:32did right than the retreat but I want
  565. 28:33you to say no that you did not want you
  566. 28:35to lie to me okay so the part set
  567. 28:38regarding that number you're on the
  568. 28:40piece of paper did you write the number
  569. 28:41one no did you write the number two no
  570. 28:46good Disher it's number three yes No
  571. 28:52you're lying to that one got another
  572. 28:53right okay how are you did you write
  573. 28:55number four no did your Athenry fight no
  574. 28:58thanks close to that try that one more
  575. 28:59time okay we're ready the number in the
  576. 29:01newspaper did you write the number one
  577. 29:03no did you write the number two no did
  578. 29:06you write the number three well did you
  579. 29:09write the number four no did your is
  580. 29:10number five okay so in essence you're
  581. 29:12saying no to every single number that I
  582. 29:14asked you about if you wrote but
  583. 29:16obviously you're lying when you say you
  584. 29:17didn't write there are three because we
  585. 29:19just both watched you write the number
  586. 29:20three okay then I catch theater okay
  587. 29:23so during the testing I want to leave
  588. 29:25this right here you need to look in the
  589. 29:27area of this clipboard
  590. 29:28you can't look side to side up down
  591. 29:30wherever person wants to look you don't
  592. 29:32have to fixate on the number three but
  593. 29:33you can be looking visually in this
  594. 29:35general area right here okay but you do
  595. 29:38have to remain completely still
  596. 29:39there's no coughing belching sneezing
  597. 29:41sniffling anything like that during the
  598. 29:44test okay just breathe what's that is
  599. 29:46breathing just yes you do breathe in so
  600. 29:50it gives you alive yeah so you need to
  601. 29:55make blood people like well I didn't
  602. 29:56know how to beat your leg statue you
  603. 29:57pretty much have to be still a statue
  604. 29:59like I said it's for very short periods
  605. 30:00of time I will if for some reason I have
  606. 30:04to give you an instruction during the
  607. 30:05test
  608. 30:05maybe you're moving your little finger
  609. 30:07you don't even notice it's actually kind
  610. 30:09of like a little thing that you're doing
  611. 30:10and you don't really realize you're
  612. 30:12doing it just six whatever I've asked
  613. 30:14you to fix and do not go oh my god I'm
  614. 30:17sorry you're not apologize do not move
  615. 30:19do not do anything I'll know already
  616. 30:22that you feel horrible about what you
  617. 30:23just did I just don't need you to
  618. 30:25acknowledge it okay I just need you to
  619. 30:27actually fix whatever I she takes like
  620. 30:29see you just picked up your little your
  621. 30:31finger over there I checked up with your
  622. 30:32finger I don't need you to go I'm sorry
  623. 30:35you know that you've altered exactly so
  624. 30:38and that's probably fine I'm just saying
  625. 30:40if I point something out like that just
  626. 30:41ever just stop what doing whatever I'm
  627. 30:43asking you to do okay does that matter
  628. 30:45to you during the touch if you cannot
  629. 30:47look at me I will be staring at you just
  630. 30:50to make sure all the components are
  631. 30:51staying where they're supposed to and
  632. 30:53now it feels super creepy to have
  633. 30:54someone staring at you and you can't
  634. 30:56serve at my salon but that's just kind
  635. 30:58of the name of the game today okay do
  636. 31:00you have any questions no like I'll try
  637. 31:04to sneeze or Berber you like that yeah I
  638. 31:07love Orange anything like this can you
  639. 31:10put your whole hand on the table
  640. 31:13for you know make sure that you didn't
  641. 31:17no way yeah
  642. 31:19no you're good you could just stick your
  643. 31:20whole hand on there so I could see it
  644. 31:22that'd be perfect
  645. 31:23there's no talking during the test the
  646. 31:25only talking is to do is to say yes or
  647. 31:28no sometimes people have a problem can
  648. 31:33you look at me right so I know you're
  649. 31:34you're right but you're like in the zone
  650. 31:37of progress I'm very happy hey so I
  651. 31:39asked you a question and you a lot of
  652. 31:41people have you know an automatic
  653. 31:43reaction goes yes
  654. 31:44no they move their head so just be
  655. 31:46conscious about the fact that your whole
  656. 31:49body including your head you can be
  657. 31:51completely still the only movement
  658. 31:52that's actually gonna happen from your
  659. 31:53body's your mouth though and if they yes
  660. 31:55or no but your head should say so so try
  661. 31:58it so if I tell you you know if I have
  662. 32:00to give you instruction Lee stop nodding
  663. 32:01your head or some like that just stop
  664. 32:03and open your mouth and say the words
  665. 32:05instead of moving your head okay that
  666. 32:07make sense and I'm like I said I know
  667. 32:09most people don't do that on purpose and
  668. 32:11they're not realizing that they're doing
  669. 32:12it until I point it out to them so if I
  670. 32:15do that just receive you did except for
  671. 32:17me okay there is no air in your cuff
  672. 32:20right now I will over inflate your cuff
  673. 32:22when we start you'll feel like your legs
  674. 32:24going to fall off for just a brief
  675. 32:25second and then I let almost all the air
  676. 32:28out and I pump it up about halfway that
  677. 32:30just gets a layer but without for me
  678. 32:31gives me a nice clean reading on the
  679. 32:33chart okay do you have any question
  680. 32:37and that's it so make sure that all so
  681. 32:41that I asked the question in its
  682. 32:42entirety before you answer sure
  683. 32:46especially with the numbers people
  684. 32:48already know what number is coming next
  685. 32:50or sometimes I'll say did you write
  686. 32:51there it now and they cut me off there
  687. 32:53has to be a delineation between the time
  688. 32:55I and the question of the time you
  689. 32:57answer so just make sure that you're not
  690. 32:58doing that for me okay so give you one
  691. 33:02second I have to make a file name here
  692. 33:33your birthday one more time five 1585
  693. 33:44so I will tell you when the touch is
  694. 33:46going to begin and then I will tell you
  695. 33:47when that touch is going to end
  696. 33:48don't move in between that time and then
  697. 33:50I will tell you at the end when it's
  698. 33:52okay for you to move around and relax
  699. 33:54okay so just a family like you are until
  700. 33:57I tell you that it's okay okay
  701. 34:01stepfather you know I'm like stressing
  702. 34:05my fingers up no just like seriously
  703. 34:08just kind of like like your hand is on
  704. 34:10your lap just lay your hand right there
  705. 34:11okay maybe I'll just didn't beat these
  706. 34:14flat there right I mean it just just
  707. 34:15like lay on the table so are they do
  708. 34:18they not what they not normally be
  709. 34:20touching well is this plea at this fine
  710. 34:25okay and again you're going to be
  711. 34:27looking straight ahead just make sure
  712. 34:32you don't move okay
  713. 35:13the test is about to begin please remain
  714. 35:15still
  715. 35:33regarding what number you are on the
  716. 35:35piece of paper did you write the number
  717. 35:36one well
  718. 36:00did you write the number two Oh
  719. 36:28did you write the number three no
  720. 36:55did you write to number four No
  721. 37:21did you write the number five No
  722. 37:48this portion of the test is complete
  723. 37:50please remain still I take the
  724. 37:51instrument out of operation
  725. 37:59he's gonna like and feel the Gredos you
  726. 38:07remember to lie and everything I was
  727. 38:08awesome those so you are mostly a really
  728. 38:13bad liar
  729. 38:14have people told you that before like
  730. 38:16the second you tell a lie like they can
  731. 38:18tell like on your face but because it's
  732. 38:20shaking you lied to the number-3 like I
  733. 38:22know if you heard me cooking but and
  734. 38:23like turn down the sensitivity because
  735. 38:25you're starting to go off the page so
  736. 38:26that is what I need to see as the
  737. 38:29pellagra fir because that tells me that
  738. 38:31you know what's wrong to tell a lie and
  739. 38:33you're actually having a significant
  740. 38:34reaction when you lie so that it's
  741. 38:36awesome so thank you for being a liar
  742. 38:39that was the thing that's a good thing
  743. 38:41we don't want to be good Liars so thank
  744. 38:43you for being a horrible liar and then
  745. 38:46just shows me that you know obviously on
  746. 38:47the test when we're asking you know
  747. 38:49significant stuff about your wife if
  748. 38:51you're like that it's going to be even
  749. 38:52ten times more amplified
  750. 38:54so I appreciate that I appreciate that
  751. 38:57very much more than you know
  752. 38:59so that was awesome so let me get the
  753. 39:02questions to the test up if you want to
  754. 39:04take a drink of your water just to kind
  755. 39:06of everyone you're good okay so do you
  756. 39:11have any other questions about the
  757. 39:12questions of the test okay so we're
  758. 39:16going to ask be such a questions we have
  759. 39:18to ask them at least three times so we
  760. 39:20call them charts so we have to do at
  761. 39:21least three charts we can do up to five
  762. 39:27charts depending on you know if you're
  763. 39:29not giving me good data for some reason
  764. 39:30or you're moving or something like that
  765. 39:32we could do up to five charts okay so
  766. 39:34hopefully moving on done three that's
  767. 39:36what my hope is and I imagine we will
  768. 39:40get them done in three so okay and the
  769. 39:43coolest thing about this is right now
  770. 39:44there's only one person in this room
  771. 39:46that knows what the truth is and in
  772. 39:48about five minutes there's going to be
  773. 39:50two of us so that's the coolest part
  774. 39:52okay and then I don't go share that with
  775. 39:54them out there okay so you you don't
  776. 39:57have any other questions or anything you
  777. 39:59know
  778. 40:05so you don't want any [ __ ]
  779. 40:07for starters
  780. 40:24heart rate out the stop the scales
  781. 40:27that's right until hunger training your
  782. 40:30own baseline you're good no problem a
  783. 40:37pen can you let me know when your race
  784. 40:39begins during this part of the test I
  785. 40:42want you to focus from the back of the
  786. 40:43chair okay
  787. 40:44not looking up side to side anything
  788. 40:47like that
  789. 40:48once you go without doing that nope you
  790. 40:50doing great you but actually the
  791. 40:52clipboard and gone now so your area of
  792. 40:55focus is going to be like in this area
  793. 40:56okay yeah don't like focus on top of so
  794. 40:59intense that you end up you know kind of
  795. 41:03going cross-eyed well don't just make
  796. 41:05sure you don't do that okay it's kind of
  797. 41:07okay look around like right in that area
  798. 41:09okay do you remember those questions
  799. 41:11that you just have to lie to and before
  800. 41:142018 right remember you're going to tell
  801. 41:17a lie to those questions yes okay now
  802. 41:20virtually never to anything this is
  803. 41:22before 2018
  804. 41:24there's regardless before 2018 right and
  805. 41:26you're going to think about yeah right
  806. 41:29yeah after you after you're asked full
  807. 41:32question yes yep perfect
  808. 41:34all right you ready do it okay so
  809. 42:17because is about to begin is remain
  810. 42:19still
  811. 42:46do you understand they only ask you the
  812. 42:48questions we have discussed yes
  813. 42:52and so
  814. 43:13regarding Shannon's disappearance you
  815. 43:15attend today after all of the questions
  816. 43:16truthfully yes
  817. 43:40your first name Christopher yes
  818. 43:47it's pretty normal
  819. 44:21before 2018 did you ever lose your
  820. 44:23temper with someone you cared about no
  821. 44:48did you physically toss Shannon's
  822. 44:50disappearance well
  823. 45:14were you born in 1985 yes
  824. 45:47before 2018 did you ever see anything
  825. 45:50out of anger to a loved one no
  826. 46:16are you lying about the last time you
  827. 46:17saw [ __ ] no
  828. 46:43are you now in the state of Colorado
  829. 47:19before 2018 have you ever wanted to hurt
  830. 47:21someone to be even with them No
  831. 47:38from
  832. 47:51do you know where Shannon is now well
  833. 48:18this portion of the test is complete
  834. 48:20please reach the electric instrument out
  835. 48:21of operations
  836. 48:31how do you feel horrible arms yeah this
  837. 48:35is trying to look at something without
  838. 48:37nothing better the chair think yeah yeah
  839. 48:41and it's kind of weird like that's why I
  840. 48:43always tell people not to silicosis I
  841. 48:46must be trying to get everything still
  842. 48:49do you feel like you're in a good
  843. 48:51position right now I'm sitting in the
  844. 48:53other so it's okay okay just let me do
  845. 48:57this
  846. 48:57do you have any issues with the
  847. 49:00questions as far as physically coming to
  848. 49:02dance disappearance there anything that
  849. 49:05you are like I don't like kind of
  850. 49:07questions you know we're good maybe you
  851. 49:09know Mom if Akashi are you know exactly
  852. 49:12what I'm talking about that over I would
  853. 49:13just quit dumb under okay
  854. 49:17and it's Sarge last time you shower you
  855. 49:20know talked about in the bedroom when
  856. 49:21you shower makeup coming down her face
  857. 49:23and then if you know where she gets now
  858. 49:26having direct knowledge of where she
  859. 49:28would be at this moment okay okay so you
  860. 49:33want to take some drink water or you
  861. 49:35ready to start like a charge
  862. 49:41confirming what I don't do now I'm
  863. 49:44telling you
  864. 49:45[Music]
  865. 50:01everything my stable yeah so good like
  866. 50:05that
  867. 50:05yep
  868. 50:14honey during this test on the last test
  869. 50:22you're breathing really looking so
  870. 50:24please just show you normal breaths okay
  871. 50:27we can't have deep breaths or oh my dear
  872. 50:29oh okay I'm sorry
  873. 50:30sighs okay just breathe is normal as
  874. 50:32possible okay so that little sucker yeah
  875. 50:37all right you ready
  876. 50:44I'm on the way right okay we're gonna
  877. 50:48get started to stay still
  878. 51:18that test is about to begin please
  879. 51:20remain still
  880. 51:47do you understand that I only ask you
  881. 51:49the questions we have discussed
  882. 52:13regarding Shannon's disappearance do you
  883. 52:15intend to answer all the questions
  884. 52:17truthfully yes
  885. 52:39are you now in the state of Colorado yes
  886. 53:06before 2018 have you ever wanted to hurt
  887. 53:08someone to get even with them No
  888. 53:44are you lying about the last time you
  889. 53:46saw Shannon
  890. 54:11your first one Christopher yeah
  891. 54:37before 2018 did you ever lose your
  892. 54:39temper which one would you cared about
  893. 54:40No
  894. 55:16do you know where shenana is now No
  895. 55:43were you born in 1985 yes
  896. 56:18before 2018 did you ever see anything
  897. 56:21out of anger to a loved one no
  898. 56:53it's pretty normal
  899. 57:02did you physically call Shannon's
  900. 57:04disappearance wrong
  901. 57:13[Music]
  902. 57:29partially the test is complete presuming
  903. 57:31so I take the instrument out of
  904. 57:32operation
  905. 57:38keep in the lab I think we should be
  906. 57:42able to getting in one more chart I
  907. 57:44really need your breathing to be normal
  908. 57:46mentor like all our place else art
  909. 57:49that's okay
  910. 57:50like sometimes I feel like I'm not
  911. 57:51bringing in nothing like that
  912. 57:55I don't want to do that yeah yeah I just
  913. 57:59needed normal responsible or not
  914. 58:00so I fluctuated okay sure Bobo
  915. 58:04everything I just want to be able to get
  916. 58:06it down for you and you one more chart
  917. 58:08instead of do three marks so yeah no no
  918. 58:14you don't want that
  919. 58:23you tell me when you okay I know if
  920. 58:27coming a broken record but I have to ask
  921. 58:28you again issues with those questions on
  922. 58:30the test you know exactly what I mean
  923. 58:32when after physically causing your
  924. 58:34disappearance last time you saw a man
  925. 58:37and if you know where she is that so no
  926. 58:42question rather no okay
  927. 58:49tell them
  928. 58:53and I started to say so
  929. 59:15they break through the nose or breathe
  930. 59:18into the mouth matters it doesn't matter
  931. 59:20you know
  932. 59:29what
  933. 59:48potestas oxygen facial and still
  934. 59:57you understand that I only ask you the
  935. 59:59questions

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