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0:25Hello everyone. Welcome to episode 134
0:28of Summon Sign the Last Deas weekly
0:31in-depth game discussion podcast. I'm
0:33your host as always, Brad Ellison
0:35joining me. I got the homie.
0:38>> You already know.
0:39>> Got him, dude. Mr. Cognito Cog, what's
0:41up, dude? Good.
0:43>> Chilling, man. Chilling. Oh, man. Just
0:45getting ready for the week, you know,
0:46and I got I got the call. I was
0:48summoned. Yep.
0:49>> I was like, I like I like this subject.
0:51So, I was just like, "Oh, he picked me.
0:54He thought of me on this." I was like,
0:55"Yes."
0:56>> Oh, yeah.
0:57>> Yeah. So, we going to have some fun
0:58today.
0:58>> Oh, yeah. We're going to have some good
1:00fun.
1:00>> How's everything going, man? With ILP,
1:03the Dukes. [sighs]
1:04>> Yes. A lot a lot going on. We We We're
1:07covering a lot of games.
1:10>> Sadly, the games I really want to talk
1:11about, I can't talk about on some side.
1:13[laughter]
1:14>> Not yet.
1:15>> We Yeah. Not yet. Not yet. We're a
1:16little early. A little early. But, no,
1:18it's been it's been a lot going on. But
1:19right now, I'm in um I'm in Germany
1:21mode. I'm in Germany mode to be honest
1:22with you.
1:23>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
1:24>> Gamescom. Okay.
1:25>> Gamescom. So, it's it's really ramping
1:28up and hotels and flights and and then
1:31Yeah, bro. It's crazy.
1:33>> So expensive.
1:34>> Woo. Oh, it's different than Japan. You
1:36You would have thought that. [laughter]
1:37I was like, damn. The euro versus the
1:40dollar is something different.
1:41>> Yeah.
1:42>> Versus the yen.
1:43>> Yeah.
1:45>> Crazy.
1:45>> Yeah. So, we learned about that. And
1:47then uh just kind of like appointments.
1:49You know, you know the routine when you
1:50do these conventions and shows. So,
1:51we're trying to like line up everything.
1:54do all the booking for you guys?
1:56>> I do about
1:5780%. I'll say I I've I've come down to
2:0170 and now let add it take a little bit
2:03more person cuz it gets too much, bro.
2:05It gets too
2:06>> a lot.
2:06>> Yeah,
2:07>> cuz you're doing like what four people
2:08at least with you. Yeah,
2:10>> four people the bookings and then some
2:12people like, "Hey, we only have this
2:14time and or we only have two people and
2:16you know how it goes, right?" So you got
2:18to and then you know if you're not quick
2:20when the email comes in for the for the
2:22titles of the you know the companies you
2:24like you're like damn like you got to
2:26move on it. So it's one of those things
2:27where it's always stop what you're doing
2:28email just came in yada yada yada. So
2:30we're in that mode and then obviously
2:32just getting familiar with Germany. I've
2:33never been you know so I've been taking
2:34a lot of advice from people and then
2:36obviously a lot of people who you know
2:38are going also because of us you know
2:40say which is kind of dope you know. So
2:41I'm excited. It just it gets hectic the
2:44pre preparation and then usually people
2:47don't realize after a convention is also
2:49the busiest time because they want
2:51content and this and Yeah. So it's a
2:53lot. It's a lot. So we in that we in
2:55that zone right now man.
2:56>> Yeah. They'll come knocking at your
2:57door.
2:58>> Oh yeah. Yeah. So it's it's been we just
3:00in case you know things may have slipped
3:02your mind you know stuff that you ask
3:04for. We like to see coverage. [laughter]
3:07>> So I get it. You know the relationships.
3:08You know how it go.
3:10>> But how you been man? What's been going
3:11on with you? Uh, pretty good, dude. Been
3:14I've been in uh lock in mode with the
3:17gym recently. Cause
3:19>> the gains have been happening slowly,
3:21but it's been good. I been eating more
3:23more protein,
3:24>> which has been a struggle. I'm not a
3:26huge eater, so it's kind of a struggle
3:28for me, but
3:29>> okay,
3:29>> I'm finding cheats. My biggest strat
3:31now, Cog, is to put protein powder and
3:34Greek yogurt, and that's what does it
3:36for me.
3:37>> Yeah, that's a game changer right there.
3:38That's a game changer. If you're in bulk
3:40mode also, that's a great one because
3:42it's um Greek is is really good. Also,
3:45um I don't know if if you're in really
3:47bulk mode. The other thing I would say
3:48is uh Caseian protein
3:51>> um like not not too far before bread, I
3:53mean before bed, it's really good. It's
3:55like a slow digestive protein. So, while
3:57you sleep cuz basically when you're
3:58sleeping, it's like that fasting period
4:00of 8 hours. So, it's kind of like slow
4:02digesting through your body and like for
4:04people that are really, you know, they
4:05want to bulk, they they do that as well.
4:06So, yeah, man. And and a little creatine
4:09will help you. I have creatine. All
4:10right, let's go.
4:11>> Yeah. Yeah. Got that. Um, wait, how much
4:13grams of that case protein do you have
4:15per night?
4:15>> I get it's about I got what it's called
4:17dietized. I said it too. It's about I
4:19think it's about 24
4:20>> 24 g.
4:21>> Yeah. It's it's a I like the taste. It's
4:23like a cookies and cream. I throw that
4:25in there with a little almond milk. You
4:27know what I mean? And it's it's
4:29delicious, man. It's like a shake. It's
4:30like I'm cheating. I'm like, "Oh, this
4:31is great." You know what I'm saying? So,
4:33yeah, I've been doing that for a while,
4:34man. But uh yeah, like when I'm in that
4:36bobbo, but yeah, if you if you try to do
4:37what's our goal, sir, what do we what
4:39are we trying to do?
4:40>> Bulking more. I'm I'm not like I want to
4:42get this certain weight or anything like
4:44that. I'm just going
4:46>> Okay.
4:47>> So, I'm like, all right, we could slow
4:48down a little bit. [laughter]
4:50>> But I got to be careful, man.
4:51>> Like the caffeine in the pre-workouts,
4:54they're kind of messing me up. I got to
4:56be careful.
4:56>> Got to be careful.
4:57>> Like yesterday, I was doing um hip
5:00thrusts
5:01>> and I almost passed out.
5:03>> I was like, "Okay, dude.
5:04Gotta chill out.
5:06>> Yeah.
5:07>> I'm gonna step back from that stuff.
5:09>> So,
5:10>> do you do you attribute it to the
5:12caffeine, per se, or like just too much
5:15or like
5:16>> It could have been just me pushing too
5:17hard.
5:18>> Okay.
5:18>> But I felt a little more ppped than
5:21usual, I guess.
5:22>> Gotcha. Gotcha.
5:23>> So, I'm like, "All right, maybe I should
5:24just like not do that for a little bit.
5:26[laughter] We'll see how the future
5:28workouts go without it. I'm going to try
5:30to do without any pre-workout or
5:32whatever."
5:33>> Yeah. See how your body feels. See how
5:34your body feel. For me, I was when it's
5:36older, it's tougher.
5:37>> I'm always, you know, tired or sometimes
5:39I need that little, you know what I'm
5:40saying? I get it, dude.
5:41>> So, it's tough. But I understand like I
5:43mean, if you could do it without it, for
5:45sure. You know what I'm saying? Is Is
5:46yours just a quick question, is yours
5:47like a a base pre-workout eye or does it
5:50have like the beta ality where it makes
5:51you like tingle and all?
5:53>> No, it doesn't have that kind of stuff.
5:55>> It doesn't have anything like that. And
5:57like I've tried other things like I had
5:58coffee one time before and that did not
6:01work out well for me at all. I was like,
6:03"This sucks. I can never do this again.
6:04>> I can't do co coffee is just that's
6:06laxative for me." Like I [laughter] like
6:08like literally literally an hour late.
6:10I'm like 30 minutes late. I'm like,
6:11"Yeah, I got to go." [laughter]
6:13>> I think the the strat for me right now
6:15as cog is I'm going to try to
6:18have no caffeine most of the time, but
6:20occasionally maybe have a little bit
6:22here and there. Just not every day. I
6:24don't want it being an everyday kind of
6:26thing. Maybe
6:27>> like caffeine's fine, but I think I was
6:29just having too much all around. too
6:31much throughout the day.
6:32>> Good point. Good point. Yeah.
6:34>> Cuz you know, we're like of the mindset
6:36of like a teenager still where it's just
6:38like, oh yeah, gamer time, caffeine
6:41time, all that stuff. [laughter]
6:44>> Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely something I
6:45got to work on, too. So, for me, it's
6:47more
6:48podcast cuz like I it helps with my
6:50energy. You know what I'm saying?
6:53>> I podcast almost every day. So, I'm like
6:55I am drinking a lot of caffeine. If you
6:57really analy I was really analyzing. So
6:59yeah, I try to make a constant effort to
7:00not especially on the days I'm not
7:02podcasting, not doing other stuff to
7:03like eliminate it because yeah, it can
7:05get, you know, too much.
7:07>> Yeah. And I haven't walked in like four
7:10or five days and I usually walk every
7:11day and that helps a lot I think. So I
7:14got to get back on that stuff cuz I'm
7:15getting old too and that's just what
7:17happens when
7:18>> the big 31. I remember those days. What
7:20you
7:21>> I'm 39.
7:22>> Are you coming up on the Yes, you coming
7:24up on the Yes. Let's go. I look saddest
7:27for sure right now. Yeah.
7:28>> Here we go. But here's here's the thing,
7:30Brat. Like this is when things
7:33>> 40 is when
7:35happens, bro. Bro, you going to be like,
7:37why is this not working anymore? Like,
7:39why is it like body parts just want to
7:41act up for no reason? Like, yeah. Yeah.
7:44That's maintenance mode. And and and
7:47staying on top of it because little
7:49nagging things can progress into serious
7:51things. And it's not careful about it.
7:54You seem like a guy that's always, you
7:55know, kind of
7:55>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty good
7:56about like keeping an eye on things and
7:59checkups and all that kind of stuff.
8:00>> For sure. For sure.
8:01>> I will say though, tonight
8:03>> or I woke up at 3:00 a.m.
8:05>> and I was like, "What the fuck?" And my
8:07eye was just very dry.
8:10>> Oh [ __ ]
8:10>> And pain, like sore pain. I was like,
8:12"What's happening?"
8:14>> Oh no.
8:14>> And I was like, "Is it my like a fan or
8:17something like that or is an allergy
8:18kicking up going on there?" But I put in
8:20some eye drops.
8:22>> Okay.
8:22>> Had a ibuprofen.
8:24>> Okay.
8:24>> And it's still lingering a little bit,
8:26but I'm way better now than I was
8:29earlier.
8:30>> This has happened to me before, so I
8:31think it's an allergy thing
8:32occasionally.
8:33>> Okay. Okay.
8:34>> Like everyone in my family has
8:35allergies.
8:35>> Gotcha. Okay.
8:36>> So, it's just probably one of those
8:37things, but it's just extremely
8:40annoying.
8:41>> Yeah. Yeah. No, stay on top of it
8:42though. Like I said, little things
8:44trans.
8:46Yeah. So, stay on top of it for sure.
8:48>> Yeah. But uh I don't know. I guess it's
8:51not really anything surprising or new
8:52for me.
8:54>> Luckily, I don't have it. Like my my
8:55brother has allergies way worse than I
8:57do, so I lucked out on that side. But
8:59[laughter]
9:00>> it is what it is.
9:01>> Yeah. I was just
9:02>> When you get old,
9:04>> get ready, everybody. All you young
9:05bucks listening, it gets worse.
9:08[laughter]
9:09>> That's what it is. It gets worse, bro.
9:10Once you hit 40.
9:12>> Yeah. You're with You're on uh Duke with
9:14Maddie. Yeah, that still that still
9:17innocent young boy.
9:20>> He's dirty.
9:22>> He's like, I pulled my muscle and I I
9:24don't know what to do.
9:26[laughter]
9:28>> I was like, ah, the good old days when
9:30you just you just move a certain way and
9:32something happens and you're like, bro,
9:34I remember when I like started getting
9:3630 like I would get like um what you
9:37call it like the Charlie horses. I'm
9:39like, why am I just getting
9:40>> Oh, yeah, dude.
9:41>> It's been a while since I had one, but
9:42yeah, those suck so bad. Can it wake you
9:45up out your sleep? And I was like, okay,
9:47I think what it is, you know, I don't
9:48have a lot of electrolytes in my body. I
9:49started working on having bananas. And
9:51then, you know, sometimes even like a
9:53little Gatorade and stuff like that
9:54every now and then. But yeah, then that
9:56helped. I'm like, okay, I'm noticing
9:57going it's your body talking to you,
9:59telling you you're not doing something
10:01completely right and we just want to let
10:03you know. So, oh yeah, those
10:05>> point where I'm like, okay, I got to
10:07stretch more certain areas like Yeah.
10:09Sometimes when I like bend down or like
10:11move really kind of unusual, I'll feel
10:14like kind of in my traps up here or
10:16something like that. I'm like, "Okay,
10:17dude. [laughter] All right, dude. Got to
10:20be a little more careful now." But I
10:22will say stronger than I've ever been in
10:24my entire life right now, though.
10:25>> Let's go.
10:26>> So, that's good.
10:27>> Oh, I like that. We got to see Bulan,
10:29Brad. Let's
10:29>> see more. I'm not trying to get like
10:33>> You ain't on there. Say, "Excuse me,
10:35Brad. Can you tell me where the bus is?"
10:36The bus is right over there.
10:38>> Yeah. I'm not hitting those yet.
10:39>> You ain't there yet? You ain't Okay. You
10:40ain't there for directions.
10:41>> I'm not going I'm not going like
10:43[laughter] there or like that. Or like
10:46hit him with like a little like that or
10:48something. [laughter]
10:49Get one of those.
10:52>> I feel you though. I feel you. Got
10:53[laughter]
10:54>> Excuse me. I think it's over.
10:57>> I like when big dudes get big for the
10:59first time and they don't know how to
11:01act. And then you you know when you know
11:03dudes is feeling theirel it's the walk.
11:05>> Oh you was the student the dudes with
11:07the extra. And I'm like bro I understand
11:09you been going Yeah. Yeah. I hate them
11:11dudes at the gym. I be like bro I get
11:13it. You got your gains. You feeling
11:16yourself but you ain't got to do all
11:18this. Like you doing too much bro. It's
11:20funny though. You got to like cuz you
11:21can tell like they're so proud of you.
11:23>> Yeah dude. Well, it's like when you get
11:25that pump going, you got like a nice
11:26pump, dude. You feel like a Super
11:27Saiyan.
11:28>> Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
11:29>> You know, like the veins are popping.
11:32>> Hell yeah.
11:33>> Muscles are bulking. Yeah. You're like,
11:35>> "Hell yourself. Hell yeah." Cuz you see
11:37your body transform in front of your
11:39eyes. You're like, "Yo, you see what the
11:41physicality, you know, the physique is
11:42capable of." And it is dope to see it.
11:44Just the young ones, they kill me
11:46because they're so arrogant. And it's
11:47hilarious to me.
11:49>> I remember [snorts] that.
11:50>> Yeah. Yeah. When the older guys
11:53Headphones on, head down.
11:54>> Head down. That's it. Yep.
11:56>> Straight to work.
11:56>> I'm locked in. Yeah.
11:57>> Yes, sir.
11:58>> I don't give a [ __ ] about anything else.
11:59[laughter] Just
12:00>> I'm not here. I get mad when dudes talk
12:02to me. I be like, "Oh my god." All
12:03right. Yeah, man. All right. Cool. All
12:04right. Thanks, bro. Like, dudes be
12:06wearing, "Oh, nice shirt. Nice." All
12:08right, man. Thank you, brother. And then
12:10they just stand and like now it takes me
12:12out of my set. I'm losing my pump. I'm
12:14like,
12:14>> bro, you know what I'm saying? Like, and
12:16I don't want to be rude. That's why a
12:17lot of times I'll have my joys in
12:20blasted so I can't hear you. Like you
12:22literally got to like physically
12:25>> cuz I'm like yo bro I can't because
12:26otherwise they people would have flawed
12:28conversations about life.
12:31>> I don't mind talking occasionally but
12:32like
12:34>> if someone tries to talk to me during a
12:36set
12:38>> then I'm like hold on
12:40>> just wait kind of thing like that. Wait
12:42till I'm done with the set. I'm like
12:43lifting some heavy ass weight. I'm like
12:45I'm going to [ __ ] hurt myself if
12:47>> you keep talking bro I I it's it's
12:50etiquette. It's a certificate that I is
12:52required especially during set like
12:54that's a no no in my opinion like you
12:56finish or you like hey brother how many
12:57you got because I want you jump that's
12:59different I'm like yeah bro I got you or
13:01hey yo jump in is cool
13:02>> yeah of course yeah I don't mind the
13:03workins yeah absolutely
13:04>> yeah I don't mind the work but it's just
13:05the guys that like they really excited
13:08they want to talk and I'm just like all
13:10right bro and I'll try to keep it short
13:11and respectful but then it's like okay I
13:13got I got to go right
13:14>> yeah but like you and me are the same
13:16kind of boat you know we're wearing like
13:17gamer shirts and all that kind of stuff
13:19so people are always like dude nice
13:20shirt.
13:21>> Like I was wearing my Final Fantasy 7
13:22remake shirt one time
13:24>> and this guy was like, "Dude, nice
13:26shirt." He goes, "Look what I'm
13:28listening to." He holds up his like
13:29phone and he's listening to Wind Winged
13:31Angel while he's working out.
13:32>> Fire. We going to talk about that.
13:34>> I was like, "Holy
13:37>> I've never encountered that. That's
13:39fire. I've never encountered someone
13:41that's like a gamer as far as music is
13:44concerned. I've always got the gamers
13:46like I'll get the OGs. I'll wear like a
13:48Sega or an Atari hat." Yeah.
13:50>> And OG's will come up to be like, "Yo,
13:51nice hat or whatever." Whatever. You
13:53wear a shirt that maybe a gamer, but I
13:54guess my gym, I'm sure, these are just
13:57hardcore suns out, guns out. They don't
14:00>> There ain't really no gamers where I'm
14:02at for whatever reason at my gym. So,
14:04it's kind of cool that you got to
14:05experience that.
14:06>> Yeah, my gym's much more It's a big gym.
14:08It's not as like I know ex I've seen
14:10your gym and I know exactly what the
14:11vibe and that kind of gym brings. It's
14:14like all business bro dudes that are
14:17into super working out. My gym gets
14:19people of all
14:20>> skill levels and whatever people have
14:22been there. So, it's cool. I get a lot
14:23of, you know,
14:24>> guys are just working out earlier on and
14:26stuff like that. You got some really
14:28jack dudes though. Don't go don't get me
14:30wrong. Hell yeah.
14:31>> You got some big boys. Absolutely.
14:33>> But mostly Jim has been very good. I
14:37haven't had any problems really. I
14:39haven't had to say anything to anyone.
14:40Thank God. I don't want to be that guy.
14:43But I will be that guy if you're being
14:46annoying.
14:48>> What you do, bro? What's the Brad move?
14:49Let me hear it,
14:50>> bro. If you don't at least like rack
14:52your weights or something like that to
14:54like a reasonable level,
14:56>> like if you're leaving four [ __ ]
14:58plates on each side of a barbell
15:00>> and go walk off of the machine,
15:02>> just bounce. Just bounce. Yeah,
15:04>> that's wild.
15:05>> That's a problem. That's a problem.
15:06>> That's a problem. They they they have
15:08they're very strict on my gym about
15:09that. They hate that. Like you get
15:11thrown out my gym if you do that. Like
15:12it's awesome. I love I love that. And
15:14they like the old man he would come
15:16down. He would hunt you down. It would
15:17be like a gestapo like you didn't rack
15:19your weights, bro. Like I love I was
15:21like, "Oh, this is the gym for me." Like
15:22I was like, "Oh, this is great."
15:24>> The the worst though offenders are the
15:27guys who try to commandeer multiple
15:30machines.
15:31>> Oh my god. One machine at a time, dude.
15:34>> One at a time. You don't need to set up
15:35your little fort, your little shop going
15:37on here. Three machines. You put your
15:39jacket on one thing, your bag on
15:41another. Don't do that, man. [laughter]
15:43>> Yeah, don't do that. You do one at a
15:45time,
15:46>> bro. I'll jump right in there like And
15:48then I'll start working out [laughter]
15:50and he Oh, bro. I was like, "Oh,
15:51[clears throat] yeah. How many you got?"
15:51Okay. Cuz I'm working in it. Cuz bro,
15:53you cannot commandeer.
15:54>> Can't just do that, man.
15:55>> The machine's here. Like, nah, bro. I
15:58agree with you.
15:58>> One machine at a time. So, have good
15:59gym, everybody.
16:01>> Good. Yeah. Have good gym. That's That's
16:03a fact.
16:03>> Yeah. And get your asses in there. All
16:05right.
16:05>> Yes.
16:06>> I know it's intimidating,
16:07>> but it's all good. No one's judging you.
16:10>> Exactly. Everyone's there to get better.
16:12>> Absolutely, brother. You already know.
16:14>> All right. Hey, this is a video game
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16:32>> Wish you banned. Which you wish you were
16:34temporarily banned.
16:35>> It's crazy how there is literally
16:36something every week I feel like for
16:38that company. Just something at le
16:41sprinkle of some sort of drama,
16:44something
16:45every week. It's good content.
16:47>> I'm like jealous, dude. I wish Nintendo
16:49was like that, [laughter]
16:51>> bro. That's why I say I tell I tell
16:53Matt, I like, "Bro, we got to be
16:54thankful. Xbox gives us something to
16:56talk about every week." Yeah.
16:58>> Week, bro. It's always something good,
17:00bad, and different.
17:01>> Yeah. Yeah. It's frustrating. Like
17:03Nintendo, I'm like, "Oh, okay. You guys
17:04are just being you're not doing anything
17:07crazy yet. Let's go get something.
17:10[laughter]
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17:30well.
17:31pair of shoes wrote in said yo Ellis uh
17:34the brad gun and the alter's last
17:37variable
17:39cog uh gets sent on special missions due
17:42to the new ninja ninja profession I must
17:45wrote ninjutsu the only twist is that
17:48both of you have to choose his weapons
17:51you have to choose one legit weapon and
17:52one detrimental weapon think nunchucks
17:55but also having to carry around a pool
17:57fun noodle what would you choose for him
18:00keep in He is being sent to infiltrate
18:02the new Xbox headquarters to confis to
18:06confiscate Asha Sharma's top secret Xbox
18:08files. Stay cool everyone and hope you
18:11all have a fantastic week. Uh, actually
18:13it's Xbox at all caps now.
18:15>> Yes. Yes. Yes. [laughter]
18:18>> You got to make remember that. It's it's
18:20it's much more intense now.
18:22>> Exactly. Super intense now.
18:23>> Yeah. All right, K. We got to pick your
18:25one legit ninja weapon, one bad ninja
18:28weapon.
18:29>> All right. Legit. legit.
18:30>> So, as as a resident ninja fan, you
18:33know, I mean, you can't go wrong with
18:36the traditional katana, obviously, your
18:38main sword, your stuff like that.
18:40>> Um, but I I'm like a remember ten shoe.
18:43I'm a cow cow traps guy.
18:46>> You know what I'm saying? Kind of like
18:47that.
18:48>> You want that as your main weapon.
18:49[laughter]
18:50>> But remember, we're infiltrating. This
18:52is true. You're infiltrating,
18:54>> right? Remember, this is we see people
18:55don't realize the jitsu is really the
18:57art of stealth. not being seen going in.
18:59So, we don't want the confrontation.
19:01We're trying to avoid. So, we want our
19:03little puffs of smokes. We're little cow
19:05traps in case people are chasing and
19:06following us. Okay.
19:07>> You know what I'm saying? Got. So,
19:08that's the that's the vibe I'm in. You
19:10know what I'm saying? I'm sneaking in.
19:11I'm being stealthily kind of thing. So,
19:14what are you thinking? What do you
19:15think?
19:16>> I was thinking for you, Tonfuz.
19:19>> Oh, those are fire. I like
19:21>> Yeah, basically those batons you kind of
19:23hold like that. I can see that.
19:24>> Hell yeah. Tonfas are fire. I haven't
19:25heard that. izing those forearms right
19:27there, too.
19:28>> Let's go, baby. Let's go.
19:29>> That could be fun. I think the the cow
19:32traps is very funny, though. I like
19:33that. I mean, you kind of sold me on it
19:35cuz you're saying you want to avoid all
19:36confrontation pretty much.
19:38>> I'm sticking to the mission. They say we
19:40got to infiltrate Ash's thing. You know
19:41what I mean? I'm trying to be stealthy.
19:43You know, [laughter]
19:45>> I think one of the like the detrimental
19:48thing we could do, I guess you want to
19:50be stealthy.
19:52Stealth games, distractions.
19:56Kazoo. You use a kazoo to maybe lure
20:00someone somewhere. A guard.
20:03>> I [laughter and gasps] think that the
20:04patrol pattern.
20:05>> Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
20:08>> All right. I like that. I like that. A
20:09wild ass was kind of funny [laughter]
20:12with it because it was hilarious to me.
20:14But yeah. Yeah. It'll it'll work with
20:16detriment because Yeah. It's funny. It's
20:18loud and people gonna be like, "What the
20:20hell is that?" Exactly. Go towards the
20:22noise. Throw it off. facts.
20:24>> Oh man, I wonder who's guarding. So I
20:27guess it' be Asha guarding the Xbox
20:30secret files.
20:32>> Her top secret files. Yeah, Asha. You
20:34got to go through booty.
20:36>> Got to go through booty. Got to get
20:37balls in there. I'm saying we got to see
20:40Greeny at the front desk. [laughter]
20:44We got to stick past marketing. We got
20:46We got to get through, man. We got to
20:47get to those files.
20:48>> Okay. Yeah. I believe it though. I
20:49believe it could happen.
20:51>> No doubt.
20:52>> All right, Cog. So, originally on the
20:54show, we were going to have Marco
20:56Meatball, but unfortunately, he had to
20:57cancel. He has other things that came
20:58up. So, we'll try to get him on in the
21:00future, though. But for that episode, we
21:03were going to have a segment
21:06breaking down since Marco is a big music
21:09guy
21:09>> and I knew Cog was as well. So, I got
21:11Cog on originally as well, cuz we were
21:12talking about music.
21:13>> Mhm.
21:14>> We had a thing going on where we were
21:15going to list our top five gaming
21:17soundtracks, [clears throat]
21:20>> and I was like, "Cog, we we got to do it
21:21anyway still, you know."
21:22>> Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
21:23>> Cuz this is just too enticing. I don't
21:25think we've ever done something like
21:26this on the show gaming soundtracks
21:28wise. So,
21:28>> hell yeah.
21:29>> And I know Cog, like I said, is the big
21:31music guy. So, I was dying to know what
21:33he would pick.
21:34>> Cuz sometimes he throws out like
21:36curveballs to me like he's he's jamming
21:38to the Shinobi Genesis soundtrack and
21:41stuff like that. I'm like, "Okay, this
21:42guy this guy's been around the block for
21:45a while. He knows."
21:46>> Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
21:47>> So,
21:48>> we will do first, I guess, Cog. We can
21:50do some honorable mentions if you want.
21:52>> Yes.
21:52>> Cuz there's too many.
21:53>> There's too many.
21:54>> As I was saying to Cog before we started
21:56recording, I was like, I don't I was
21:57looking at my list and I was like
21:59>> constantly just trying to decide if I
22:01wanted to flip things around or not.
22:03Maybe move some stuff, bump it up, bump
22:05it down.
22:06>> There's just too much.
22:07>> There's too much.
22:08>> And I'm looking at my honorable mentions
22:09and these were literally things I wrote
22:11down in like 15 seconds. I just thought
22:13of them really quickly. I didn't think
22:14too deeply about it.
22:16>> I was like, man, there's just so much
22:17good [ __ ] already.
22:19so much.
22:20>> Cog, let's just do some honorable
22:22mentions first. Let's see what you got.
22:24>> All right. This is tough because it's
22:26almost going to sound sacrilegious to
22:27have this as an honorable mention.
22:29>> It's it's it's funny. There's too much
22:31good stuff.
22:32>> It's too much good stuff. And but I I
22:34said I cannot do this show with Brad and
22:37not mention, you know, especially
22:39playing Halo campaign right now. like
22:41Halo's theme in that soundtrack. You
22:44know,
22:44>> you know, I'm I'm a big proponent you're
22:46going to see consistently of like
22:48>> usually a good sign for a soundtrack is
22:50like when the title screen has something
22:53so gripping and amazing. And I remember
22:55hearing those Gregorian chants
22:58iconic.
22:59>> What the hell is this? Like my young
23:02gamer brain wasn't ready for this level,
23:04you know what I'm saying? of fidelity
23:06and and sound, you know, kind of thing.
23:08And obviously, you know, the classic
23:09Halo Thieves
23:11>> [clears throat]
23:11>> Yeah, it is good,
23:12>> bro. So, it it's it's iconic. I want to
23:15shout them out. Are we doing a back and
23:16forth or you want me to keep going?
23:17>> We can do back and forth.
23:18>> Let's do back and forth. Let's do back
23:19and forth. Yeah. So, what you guys are
23:21mentioning,
23:22>> first one I have written here is Persona
23:245.
23:25>> Oo.
23:26>> Have you listened to the soundtrack at
23:27all?
23:28>> Yes, I have.
23:28>> Very jazzy, very upbeat.
23:31>> Yes.
23:31>> Under the mask is like one of the best
23:34gaming songs like ever. I just love that
23:36song. It relaxes me all the time. It's
23:39like the perfect song for exactly what
23:40you're doing in that game.
23:42>> Oh yeah.
23:42>> Just chilling out in your little room
23:43and all that kind of stuff. All the
23:45tracks in this song have a vibe
23:49and I love it. I think it's so good. I
23:51do listen to the soundtrack occasionally
23:53just throw it on.
23:55>> All of these things on my list are like
23:57I listen to these
23:58>> just on the reg like just freely. So
24:01that's how you make it past my my uh
24:03>> my call.
24:04>> But yeah, Persona 5 incredible
24:07soundtrack. Persona, you guys know of
24:08course always have good music since
24:10three on especially. I don't I don't
24:11know about two tune and one. I don't
24:12have a lot of experience with them, but
24:14three, four, five, incredible
24:15soundtracks all with their own vibe
24:17style of music they go for. And five
24:20really goes for like this more jazzy
24:21kind of upbeat vibe that I really like.
24:25>> Like three has more of kind of like a
24:27hip-hop vibe. Four is like
24:31idol vibe, I would like Japanese
24:33idol vibe and vibe.
24:36>> Just
24:37superb. Chef's kiss.
24:39>> Check it out if you haven't heard it.
24:40>> Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Absolutely.
24:42Absolutely.
24:43>> All right. All right. What you got?
24:44>> So, for another honorable mention, you
24:46know, I want to shout out the legendary
24:50Zur. You know what I'm saying? He is a
24:52person like I said obviously you know
24:54when I hum the starfield scenes
24:58>> you know so that obviously in Fallout
25:01and those kind of things like
25:02>> there's a lot that he's done and it's
25:05very what I I consider his stuff like
25:08>> mood you know what I'm saying like you
25:10know what I mean not necessarily like
25:12that beat was hot you know but he he's
25:15very it's everything about like I play
25:16soft or you play Fallout games you play
25:18like it's very mood and environment
25:21based kind of thing and they're ambient
25:24almost in a way. You know what I'm
25:25saying? So yeah, for sure. For sure. Got
25:28to shout him out. Legend. And yeah, he's
25:30doing it a long time. And again, another
25:32theme, amazing title screen tracks to
25:36really grip you about what you're about
25:39to play. And that's why I love this
25:40stuff so much.
25:41>> So, how many he did? Starfield. He's
25:44done many Elder Scrolls games, right?
25:47>> Okay.
25:47>> Yeah. I think cuz I always confuse it.
25:49It's him. I know who you talking about.
25:51And then there's if B was here, he'd be
25:53strangling me right now. [laughter]
25:55I believe the other guy is James Su who
25:58does like the the like he did Oblivion's
26:00theme, you know what I'm saying? Kind of
26:02thing. So I I trust me, I used to get
26:03them confused. I mean like so they
26:05they're in the same pocket and they all
26:07kind of do the same thing. But like
26:09yeah, I wanted to show you know
26:11specifically because he's his resume is
26:14even bigger than what I've given credit
26:15for. Just the stuff that I've come in
26:17contact with him and what I've known him
26:19for is really cool. So yeah, I wanted to
26:21shout about that.
26:21>> Okay.
26:22>> Mhm.
26:22>> Next for me.
26:24>> Yes. What you got?
26:24>> This one felt bad to cut.
26:27>> All right. What you got?
26:28>> I was like [sighs]
26:30Near Automata.
26:32>> Oh, that [ __ ] good.
26:33>> Yeah, it near Automata is a very special
26:37game.
26:38>> Mhm.
26:38>> Especially if you don't know anything
26:39about it. If you go into that game
26:41blind,
26:42>> it's I mean it's an old game at this
26:43point. It's been talked about to death.
26:45Everyone loves it, me included.
26:48But this soundtrack
26:51is so
26:53melancholic.
26:54>> Mhm. [clears throat]
26:55>> But it's also it's weird. So it's very
26:58like kind of sad sounding,
27:00>> but
27:02you can see the beauty in at the same
27:04time.
27:05>> I guess it's kind of like a thing with
27:06Near the game itself. It's like this is
27:08a lot of depressing ass [ __ ] Yep.
27:10>> There's a lot of like beauty
27:12and things that make me happy when I
27:14just think about it.
27:16>> It's really weird. This whole soundtrack
27:18makes me feel when I first heard it, it
27:21made me feel nostalgic somehow. The
27:23first time I heard it, it just gives me
27:25that sensation of something like that.
27:27>> Like you feel good and happy, but there
27:30is like some sort of lingering sadness
27:32the entire way throughout.
27:35>> Hell yeah. And I think that is just the
27:37game itself and the soundtrack like
27:39perfectly encapsulates that entire
27:41feeling.
27:42>> And there are just I forgot who the
27:43singer is on this but there are just
27:44gorgeous vocals on this soundtrack too.
27:47It's incredible. Highly recommend it.
27:49Obviously play the game if you haven't
27:51as well
27:52>> because it ties in it works super well
27:54into the game.
27:56>> Salute. Salute. Yeah. I think I was just
27:58looking through my honorable mentions
27:59right now because everything that was
28:01pretty much ready to get into it. Yeah.
28:02But there there's like a couple of games
28:04I don't know if they like
28:07worthy of that. Like now I'm going to
28:09make my cuts now. I'm going to get into
28:11my list because my list is different.
28:12You're going to see that's probably the
28:14last of my mention cuz my my main you're
28:16going to see it's it's very more
28:19intricate. So yeah, that's probably the
28:21last of my
28:22>> Okay. Um I have some where I'll just
28:24rapid fire them. But I will say on my
28:26list I only have one per franchise game.
28:28I don't have multiple franchises or
28:30games from a franchise. So, okay,
28:32>> got to make some cuts,
28:33>> but I'll list them here.
28:35>> Okay,
28:35>> ChronoCross right away.
28:38>> Banger soundtrack.
28:39>> Banger.
28:41>> Gameplay gamewise, I don't like as much
28:44as Chrono Trigger.
28:45>> Yeah, Trigger's the goat.
28:46>> But banger soundtrack once again though.
28:49Incredible.
28:50>> Chrono Cross. Okay,
28:51>> Final Fantasy 9, my second favorite
28:54Final Fantasy. Incredible soundtrack. Of
28:57course, you know the boy, your boy out
28:58there, Mumasu making that.
29:00>> Salute. Absolute
29:01>> Final Fantasy 14, not so much, but other
29:06great people like Sokun on there.
29:08>> Super Mario 64. Love that [ __ ]
29:10soundtrack.
29:11>> Of course,
29:12>> that soundtrack goes hard. Super Mario
29:13Galaxy as well.
29:15>> Mhm.
29:15>> Dragon Quest 8, my beloved.
29:18I That is I keep the CD of that in my
29:22car and that's the only CD I
29:24>> Okay. Is that soundtrack? That's the
29:26only one. [laughter]
29:27>> All right. All right. Katamari Damasi.
29:31Incredible soundtrack that takes that
29:35game to a whole another level.
29:38Incredibly diverse as well.
29:40>> Mhm.
29:41>> And finally, I just wrote Donkey Kong
29:42Country 1, two, three.
29:44>> Okay. No, no, I get all great. All
29:47great.
29:48>> All right.
29:48>> I just thought I just thought of a few
29:50real quick.
29:50>> Oh, yeah. Rapid fire. Go for it.
29:51>> All right. Cuz now you you take you you
29:53got to sit out. Just fire it. All right.
29:55I would say cuz this is a second kid
29:56getting into me. Uh the Fantasy Star.
29:59>> Fantasy Star 2. Oh my god, I love
30:02Fantasy Star. And
30:04>> it is some of the best uh some of the
30:06best boss music encounters when you
30:08fight Dark Force. I thought I forgot
30:09about that. That was huge to me. Going
30:11back to my Sega arcade days, I would say
30:14>> surprisingly like Outr Run and Hang On.
30:16Um Outr Run specifically was the first
30:17game where I ever seen you actually
30:19change the music in a game. And uh the
30:21soundtrack, what is it? Musical Sound
30:23Shower is one of that's goed. That track
30:25is like a it's like a h it's a happy
30:28Caribbean kind of thing going on. It's
30:30it's a vibe. So, shout out to Outrun and
30:33of course Arcade
30:35Shinobi.
30:36>> I love the I'm still to this day trying
30:39to find that component.
30:42I mean, he's done other things, but he
30:44did stuff with the Sister 661, but that
30:46particular uh tracks on that game,
30:49especially stage three, the boss stage
30:51and um you know, the first stage iconic.
30:54The only person I've seen remixed it is
30:55T Lopes who did uh Art of Vengeance. But
30:58like I would love to like if anyone's
31:00ever like interviewed F I've never like
31:03does this man is this man still alive?
31:05[laughter] Like like I would love to
31:06know the history of the arcade Shinobi's
31:10>> uh soundtrack cuz that is [snorts] it's
31:11a it is dope and they they had that
31:13sound chip rock. I still don't know how
31:15they were able to get sound that good
31:17sound out of that that board back there.
31:19But yeah, so shout out to them for sure.
31:20I want to shout those honorable mentions
31:22out. All right.
31:24>> Um, let's do number five. Cog, let's
31:26start with you as well. Let's keep it
31:27going.
31:27>> Let's go. All right. So, this one
31:29obviously is going for every should be
31:31on everyone's list, but it's the
31:32newcomer. It's the newcomer. And
31:35>> it's just too impactful with Expedition
31:3733. It it just it just, you know, um,
31:41you know, it's funny cuz I know we
31:42supposed to have Marco. I was going to
31:43talk to about it because I I seen a
31:45video [laughter] in reference to it and
31:46he kind of spoke to the same emotions I
31:48did. I think for me though, it's
31:50different. The track everyone I think
31:51likes is like I know what everyone else
31:54likes. For me it's the Gustaf track.
31:58>> The Gustaf track is a very somber theme
32:02and you feel a lot of that motif
32:05throughout the beginning of the game.
32:07You see these little uh snippets of it
32:09and it's a very it kind of it reminds me
32:12of the Gage. It reminds me of how sad
32:15this world is. kind of what you alluded
32:16to earlier, like you know, it's there's
32:18a little bit of hope, but this is a
32:20really dark world and I love that theme.
32:24So, yeah, Expedition 33 with that. And
32:26then I would say, like I said,
32:27>> this is going to be a franchise cuz with
32:28them, you know what I'm saying? I would
32:29say obviously the Alicia title screen.
32:31Amazing. We we know what that is. You
32:33know how you booted that up.
32:35>> And um funny one that people don't talk
32:38about is the um the Lumair. It's called
32:42In Lum's name. So it's whenever you
32:45fight the mimes.
32:47>> Mhm.
32:48>> That's a J. That's a vibe. That beat
32:50when you fight the vines, they come out.
32:53>> Yo, that joint is is dope, man. So yeah,
32:55I want to shout that game. Wow. I know
32:58Addict likes um when you there's one
33:01when you return back to Lumir towards
33:03the end of the game. That's sick.
33:04Obviously, everyone likes the world map.
33:06I mean, it's just so much, right? It
33:09just but it's you can't whatever Laurian
33:12just the fact that they found this guy
33:13to start and then the singer she's oh my
33:16god
33:16>> yeah she's great
33:17>> she's amazing like I get emotional when
33:19I hear her say all the time it's it's
33:21amazing so yeah expedition 33 is golded
33:25in this short time and it's on my like
33:27my number five so to speak list
33:29>> yeah I wonder about like their next game
33:30which I assume will be clear obscure
33:32something it'll be like their version of
33:34Final Fantasy is my guess if the
33:37soundtrack will kind of have like the
33:39same vibe like the soundtrack for this
33:41game uh from what I recall is like very
33:44like strings orchestral and with like
33:47the singer stuff like that. I wonder if
33:48they'll do that same kind of vibe again
33:49or if he'll like really switch it up.
33:51I'm not really sure. Hard to say, but it
33:53is exciting.
33:54>> Yeah,
33:55>> very very exciting.
33:57>> They're in an interesting spot to see
33:58where they go with it. Yeah, cuz I mean
33:59it it's one of the most amazing debuts.
34:03Like I almost feel bad for them. The
34:05pressure that the bar has been set so
34:06high. Can they realistically even match
34:09what they've already done? Cuz it's that
34:11amazing.
34:12>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
34:14All right. Uh for me, number five,
34:16>> what you got?
34:18>> Ocarina of Time.
34:20>> Of course. Of course. Of course.
34:22>> An iconic soundtrack that lives rentree
34:26>> in many people's heads, including mine.
34:28Of course. Composed by Koji Condo, who
34:32made the Mario theme.
34:37He's back
34:39>> and making more iconic songs that still
34:42live throughout the Zelda franchise
34:44today.
34:46>> The title theme, if you remember the
34:48beginning, the opening with Link riding
34:50on his horse with the Pona.
34:51>> Oh yeah,
34:54>> the moon. The moon coming up. The
34:56ocarina comes in.
34:59Oh my god, what a title screen. Sick. Of
35:03course, Zelda's theme, iconic as well.
35:06>> Hell yeah.
35:06>> Long Ranch.
35:10Yep. Lost Woods, a a fan favorite from
35:14everybody.
35:15>> Gerudo Valley, kicking that little
35:17Spanish guitar going in there.
35:19>> Spanish joint. Yeah, that was fire. That
35:21was fire. I like that.
35:22>> Uh, Zora's Domain, incredible song as
35:25well. Just perfect music for every
35:29single area. perfectly captures the vibe
35:32of it and sells it and just enhances
35:34everything.
35:35>> There is nothing negative about the
35:36soundtrack. It does everything exactly
35:39as it should in this game. Of course,
35:41it's not as sophisticated as a lot of
35:44other songs cuz, you know, it's made on
35:45N64 cartridge, but for how good the
35:50songs are on that thing is incredible.
35:53And just how if you play these songs to
35:56people now, instantly recognizable.
35:59You're gonna have you're gonna have
36:00grown ass men shedding tears.
36:03>> Oh, that's that's definitely grown.
36:04Yeah, grown man tears on that for sure.
36:06What?
36:07>> Yeah,
36:08>> I can read it, bro.
36:08>> You're done.
36:09>> Hell yeah.
36:10>> All right,
36:11>> number four. Cog, what do you got?
36:12>> Number four, bro. I think you'll
36:15appreciate this.
36:16>> Okay,
36:17>> Final Fantasy 7.
36:19>> Oh, yes, I do.
36:20>> 7. Yeah, man. Bro, I'll never forget
36:23like, bro, let's start early. Let the
36:26battles begin.
36:31Like, yeah,
36:32>> that goes so hard.
36:34>> And I like the
36:39it gives like like that's me doing the
36:41summon. I'm like, oh, I'm I'm I'm
36:43basically it's giving you hope. You're
36:45about to unleash all your powerful stuff
36:47to fight whatever you're fighting cuz
36:48you're in it. Like, I love that theme.
36:51Let the battles begin is to me beating
36:53the odds and it it it reminds me of
36:56doing a summon for the first time and my
36:58my little cog's mind was blown. I'm like
37:01video games can do this. Like this is
37:03amazing.
37:04>> You know what I'm saying?
37:05>> We're older so it's hard to like
37:07emphasize how mind-blowing visually that
37:10game was when it came out. What people
37:13have no idea like it
37:14>> I told you it made my hardcore dude bros
37:19who all they played was like you know
37:22what I'm saying batted and they were
37:24like what's that they wanted to know
37:25what a JP was they wanted to play that
37:29>> so yes so I want to say the bad again um
37:31come on I mean
37:33>> one winged angel come on
37:35>> oh yeah just incredible
37:38>> incredible
37:40I was Like what is going on? And his
37:43name is in the song. Sepharov's name is
37:46in the song. Sephro like bro, the
37:49buildup, the orchestra, the just it's
37:52just so much going on. And what's my man
37:54name? Noble. Oh my god.
37:57>> Legendary. You know what I'm saying?
37:59Like that that is one of the most iconic
38:01boss themes I've ever heard. Like for
38:03sure. And then I want to give a
38:05honorable mention as far as Final
38:06Fantasy 7 being wearing that that pocket
38:08with the remake. Um there's a track that
38:12that'll get a lot of attention that I
38:13love.
38:15>> So if part one remake uh Corno's
38:18Coliseum, Cornelo's Coliseum.
38:20>> Mhm.
38:20>> Um it's you kind of waiting before you
38:22go in and you're getting you're staging.
38:25>> Yeah. Yeah.
38:26>> Yeah. That it is it goes so hard that
38:29beat right there. Yeah. Put in Cornelo
38:31Coliseum. Y'all listen to that track. It
38:34goes super hard. And then there's one
38:36that um when they're in the underground,
38:38man, you keep bumping into those dudes.
38:40You know those goons? You know the
38:42goons?
38:43>> I know the goons. Yeah,
38:44>> they're clowns. And you we always wreck
38:46them every time.
38:47>> Yes.
38:48>> But yeah, but leading when you that
38:50domain area where they are underground,
38:54you know, when you first encounter
38:55there's a theme.
38:56>> I know exactly what you're talking
38:57about. I don't know what it's called,
38:58but I can
38:59>> It's got like scratching and remixing
39:01and stuff going on.
39:03>> Dude, those snow tracks are so good,
39:04man. Bro, that joint is a vibe, son. So,
39:08yeah, man. That whatever that theme is,
39:09it it goes so Yeah,
39:12>> there it is.
39:14>> Let's go. Hell yeah. So, yeah, I want to
39:17give Final Fantasy 7 all all the praise.
39:21There's more tracks obviously,
39:22>> but I was just talking the ones that
39:24kind of for whatever reason always and
39:26also um even like the Makeo reactor just
39:29like you know.
39:29>> Oh my god. Yeah.
39:31>> Yeah. Like when you when you go in
39:32deeper deeper and it's a very odd
39:34>> unsettling.
39:35>> Yeah. It's unsettling.
39:38>> Mhm.
39:40>> Like I'm like oh like what's about to
39:42happen? You know what I'm saying? Like
39:43kind of tense.
39:45>> Yeah. It's very tense. Yes. Yes. Cuz the
39:47merc you don't know what's going on.
39:48Barrett's there. I love it. So salute to
39:50Final Fantasy 7. That's that's
39:52definitely a list.
39:52>> All right. You know I love that pick.
39:54>> Let's go.
39:55>> Number four for me.
39:56>> Mhm.
39:57>> Chrono Trigger. Oh, Golden Ivantis would
40:00love you right now.
40:01>> Gasori Mitsuda, composer. I brought up
40:04Chronocross earlier.
40:06>> The Chrono Trigger soundtrack is
40:11when I think about it, I'm like, this
40:13this is like literally perfect. It's
40:16like you have done incredible work. And
40:20I'm going to get right here. I love the
40:21SNES sound chip or whatever they had in
40:23that thing.
40:25>> Sounds so good. So good. I was made fun
40:28of the Sega one compared to it.
40:30>> Shout out to Streets of Rage, though.
40:31They can do some good [ __ ] I'm not
40:33saying there's there's some great Sega
40:34tracks,
40:35>> bro. Don't get me wrong, you talking
40:37real console war 16bit console war
40:40stuff. But you preaching to the soul
40:42because real ones know any Sega kid
40:44would admit it.
40:46>> When we heard the SNEDS sound chip,
40:48>> we were like, "Our chip don't sound like
40:50that."
40:51>> Yeah.
40:52>> We was like smart box on the Genesis.
40:55Yeah, [laughter]
40:56everything is that
40:57>> it was
40:59>> only a few was able to maximize a little
41:01bit just but on their best day a true
41:04second kid will admit the yes sound chip
41:07was just next level.
41:09>> But I'm I was like thinking about it
41:11last night and I was just looking or I
41:13was like on YouTube just kind of
41:14flipping through the soundtrack and I
41:16was like the main theme a banger
41:18immediately right off the bat just the
41:20gate sets the tone for that game. It
41:23just screams that main theme to me. Cog
41:25adventure
41:26>> and I'm like this is exactly what you
41:28need to do. The beginning of that game,
41:31>> peaceful days, of course. Memories of
41:33green,
41:35>> the wind scene,
41:37>> secrets of the forest, I love as well.
41:40Frogs theme. Frog's my boy.
41:44>> Yeah. Holding up the sword and all that
41:45[ __ ] dude. That gets me hyped.
41:49Let's go. The trial. Mhm.
41:52>> When you're, you know, of course, going
41:53through the trial, the music that's
41:54playing there is so good.
41:57>> I wrote this twice. I wrote this is
41:59like, this song is the goat probably for
42:01Chrono Trigger. Corridors of Time.
42:04>> I wrote it I wrote Quarters of Time that
42:06I wrote again and I wrote in all caps
42:07for some reason.
42:09>> But Corridors of Time is like
42:12I'm going to show someone a song from
42:13Chrono Trigger. I'd put this on.
42:15Especially when this song plays in the
42:18game.
42:20>> It's kind of like a feeling you haven't
42:21gotten throughout the entire thing. Like
42:23this vast feeling of wonder.
42:26>> Mhm.
42:27>> It feels like, you know, it's like those
42:28moments in games when you step out like
42:30let's say Breath of the Wild, you know,
42:31you walk out,
42:33>> finally get out of the shrine, you see
42:34all of Hyrule, you're like, whoa.
42:36>> That everyone likes to do. It's like the
42:37vault 101 moment for a lot of people and
42:39stuff like that.
42:40>> Yes. But just this Chrono Trigger moment
42:42and this is like a Super Nintendo game,
42:44but you just see the landscape and where
42:46you're at. You're like, "Whoa, this is
42:49crazy." And this this song's playing.
42:51I'm getting like chills just thinking
42:53about it. It's so incredible.
42:57>> Get get like put this makes me mad when
42:59I just think about Coron Trigger. Just
43:02Why is there not like a proper port for
43:03this on everything?
43:04>> I Bro, that's what I waited for. I told
43:06I totally bo I'm like when are they
43:07pointing your drink? Cuz I don't want to
43:09play you. I want to I want them to
43:11really focus on it. I it it you guys are
43:14the most ravenous fans.
43:16>> Mhm.
43:17>> And I'm like, why is it dishonored? You
43:19know what I mean? Like it's just I
43:22Yeah, the Chrono Trigger fans go so hard
43:24and it's just so frustrating. Is it a
43:27license? Like what is the issue?
43:28>> I think that might be some of it with
43:30cuz I believe Tolli is involved because
43:33of Akira Toriyama who died of course all
43:36the character design stuff like that.
43:37So, I think that could be a thing. There
43:39is a PC port of the game.
43:42>> Mhm.
43:42>> Which is okay.
43:43>> Yeah.
43:44>> So, I mean, I've played through it and
43:45it's it's fine,
43:46>> but I it does annoy me that Chrono
43:49Trigger is not available on everything
43:51for cuz a lot of people haven't played
43:53it
43:54>> and it's just like such a beloved game.
43:56It's such a brisk RPG as well.
44:00>> It's a shorter one, but it feels
44:02extremely complete and satisfying when
44:04you get it. Incredible game. the Dream
44:07Team, you know.
44:08>> Um, it had uh Why can't I think of all
44:11the guys names, but it was like a
44:12collaboration, I think. Um, I'm going to
44:14look this up just because I don't want
44:15to like someone. It was this. So, I'm
44:16going to look at this really quick
44:18>> before I forget it all.
44:20>> Absolutely. Professional podcast. That's
44:22what we do.
44:22>> Yeah.
44:23>> You know what I'm saying?
44:24>> Cuz I just want to make sure it's the
44:25people I'm thinking of.
44:26>> Absolutely.
44:27>> Okay. Hi Sakaguchi. I was thinking of
44:29that, right? creator of Final Fantasy,
44:31Yugji Hori, the creator of Dragon Quest,
44:35>> and Akira Toriyama, creator of Dragon
44:37Ball
44:38>> back then.
44:39>> Back then, that's luminaries getting
44:41together to do something special.
44:43>> So, you got three goats right away
44:45teaming up to make a dream project
44:47>> and it lived up to the hype. So,
44:52>> what else can I say, man? It's just a
44:54timeless classic.
44:57>> Hell yeah. Hell yeah. That's sick. Sick.
44:59No, I love it. I mean, that's a great
45:00choice. Can't can't deny that one. It's
45:02impactful for me. We up to three now,
45:04right?
45:05>> Yes. Three.
45:06>> So, three. This is again no surprise for
45:08those who know me.
45:10>> The Destiny series, bro.
45:12>> Destiny. You like that Paul McCartney
45:15song.
45:15>> Listen, Paul McCartney go listen, I got
45:17to get it goes hard. I got to shout out
45:19to him and Marty McDonald. You know what
45:21I'm saying? Um, Odonaldo. He he again
45:24the music of the spheres it you know as
45:26a person who loves space a person who
45:28loves the idea of the great frontier
45:30what's out there kind of energy it did
45:32give that sense of wonder like okay what
45:34is happening out there but then you had
45:35specific theme stuff like the cabal
45:38stomp and and stuff like that for
45:39certain planets to give you an idea of
45:41each race your faction right kind of
45:44thing but I have to admit this is going
45:46to sound controversial because I know
45:48Marty's beloved and he's a legend but
45:51I'm more of Michael Salvatorei, Skyluen,
45:54Destiny 2 guys, and I feel they they in
45:58my humble opinion, again, those are
46:00classics what Marty did, but Destiny 2
46:03soundtracks,
46:05man, there are some I will say this,
46:09Marty may have the better collection as
46:11an album, but as far as individual
46:15tracks throughout the history of Destiny
46:17since,
46:18>> I feel that Dave's got stuff that he
46:20that he can't Marty can't mess So, the
46:22ones that stand out for me, for those
46:24who know, um, it's called Deep Stone
46:26Lullabi. This is one of the most
46:29beautiful
46:31tracks. You're in the Deep Stone Crypt
46:33Raid. You just fight this crazy
46:34encounter. You come out the raid and the
46:36the b the the whole theme is you're in
46:39this space station, right? You step out
46:42into space. The game goes into space and
46:46it is the most beautiful
46:50>> emotional
46:52track I have heard where you feel some
46:55it is it is gorgeous like this track
46:58>> this is a classy joint I'm listening to
47:00>> oh Deep Stone Lullabi takes you
47:02somewhere and it it's again one of the
47:05most special things my one of my
47:06personal favorite a lot of this is raid
47:08themed you're going to see cuz raids
47:09really take a lot out of you so you
47:11appreciate it more Um it's the name of
47:14is called um the shell of what's been.
47:17And you fought this dragon. Her name is
47:19Riven. And you've killed the dragon. And
47:21now you come out with the heart. And the
47:24mission's not over. You thought you
47:25killed you slayed the great beast, but
47:26it's not over. You had to escape with
47:28this beating heart. And it's this really
47:32tense ramp up guitar riff kind of.
47:38My Destiny fans, y'all know what I'm
47:39talking about. and it goes so hard. Like
47:43that's what And then like I said,
47:44Destiny's giving me a lot of rock vibes
47:47too or certain things. You know what I'm
47:48saying? So you got that. Um I would say
47:50I would have to say Shadow Thief is up
47:52there. A very classic theme. And for my
47:54hardcore really super rock, super it's
47:58called Sepix Redux. Um Ebonsis, if
48:01you're listening, I know this is your
48:02favorite track. Um bro, again, just
48:06energetic. Um you know, balls to the
48:09wall. We're fighting, you know what I'm
48:11saying? This crazy, you know, uh, fallen
48:15scepter thing. It, bro, Destiny has so
48:17many then just in sitting in in space in
48:20the title screen, you know, very the
48:22somber stuff from Destiny 2's campaign.
48:25>> I could go on about Destiny, but Dest
48:27that's the reason why it it hurts so
48:29much that it's gone. You know what I'm
48:31saying? Because I could, this is going
48:33really corny, but I could listen to
48:34Destiny music and it really, it'll take
48:36me exactly to the place, what I was
48:38doing, the encounter I was at, and I'll
48:40get emotional. I'll tear up. Like,
48:41that's the power of Destiny's music. And
48:44I'm just like, god damn it. [laughter]
48:47You sit there, you're like, man, this
48:49this is special right here. So, yeah,
48:51that's that's that's what that's how
48:53>> here, man. That's good.
48:54>> Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
48:55>> All right.
48:56>> Three for me.
48:57>> Let's go.
48:59Castlevania Symphony of the Night. Oh,
49:02>> SA love you right now.
49:04>> Class etiquette.
49:07>> A higher standard. This makes me feel
49:10like an aristocrat when I listen to
49:12this.
49:13>> Hell yeah. Let's go.
49:16>> Dance of Gold is a song early on in the
49:18game and it is just you are in this like
49:21laboratory kind of thing going on.
49:23Dracula's laboratory going in there. The
49:26game starts off rocking. If you remember
49:28the beginning of the game, have you
49:29played three civia tonight?
49:30>> I have. I was forced.
49:32>> Okay. You're forced
49:33>> for solving
49:35all of you need to play it. I'm like,
49:37all right, bro. I was like, oh my god,
49:39this is beautiful.
49:40>> Yes, it is a beautiful game.
49:42>> Beautiful. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
49:44>> But, you know, the game begins. You bust
49:46in Dracula's Castle Alakard. You are
49:48just chopping dudes down. There's like a
49:49rocking guitar going on and all that
49:51kind of stuff.
49:52>> Mhm. You run into death, strips you of
49:54all your stuff, your gear, back to
49:56square one with Alikard punching [ __ ]
49:59>> The first like area you go into is kind
50:01of this alchemy lab and you get this
50:04waltz that kicks in
50:06>> and just sets this tone because you know
50:09Dracula is an evil demon who is a
50:11[ __ ] psychopath and he will tear you
50:14limp for limb, but he is an aristocrat
50:17also at the same time. He loves the
50:18finer things in life as well. He's a
50:21he's a man/demon of science as well. And
50:25when this song kind of just kicks in,
50:28it sets the tone for the rest of the
50:29game of just you knowing you are going
50:31to be in this nightmare scenario, but
50:34there's going to be beauty and elegance.
50:38Beauty and elegance throughout the
50:39entire thing, just like Dracula, that's
50:41what he likes. And that is
50:42>> true here. Mhm.
50:44>> I think that song wood carving uh
50:46Patricia, not Patricia, Patita,
50:50>> uh just with this amazing harps accord
50:52kicks off the joint. I love a harps
50:54accord. [laughter]
50:55>> I love a harpsicord.
50:57>> Shout out to the harps accord. I'm a big
50:59fan.
51:00>> Marble gallery.
51:02>> Let's go.
51:04>> Just a a banger.
51:06>> Prayer, which is kind of like the file
51:08select music, is just this woman singing
51:10and that's it.
51:11>> It's just her. It is so hauntingly
51:14chilling every time. They use it
51:15throughout Castlevania games as well.
51:17>> Okay.
51:18>> But it's incredible. Crystal teardrops
51:20when you're just like in these like dark
51:22caves.
51:24>> Got this really nice jazzy piano going
51:27the whole time. It's really weird. It's
51:29like I'm in this terrifying location.
51:32>> Mhm.
51:32>> But the beat is just too good.
51:34>> Too good.
51:35>> You're still kind of like just bobbing
51:36your head to it.
51:37>> Hell yeah.
51:38>> Uh let me see here. Lost Painting, of
51:41course. I think that's the the other uh
51:44harps accord jam that I'm super into.
51:47>> And Wandering Ghost starts off very
51:48eerie, these ghostly sounds. Then you
51:52get this really like
51:56and it's just so [ __ ] good. This
51:58soundtrack is incredible front to back.
52:02>> I will never stop loving you, Symphony
52:04Night soundtrack or Symphony Night in
52:05general. It's just too damn good. It's
52:08incredible and it makes me feel fancy
52:10and that's a good thing. [laughter]
52:13>> I like that. I like that. We all need to
52:14feel bougie and feel bougie once in a
52:16while. Hell
52:17>> yeah. Now this one for me, number two,
52:21um this is where I really discovered my
52:25techno and EDM kind of pocket.
52:29>> Um the Tekken series as a whole.
52:32>> Oh, Tekken. Yeah,
52:33>> Tekken is just man the first Tekken.
52:37Yeah, not so much. But Tekken 2 probably
52:40started and then there's a couple I
52:41remember the Paul Felix theme. It was a
52:43vibe. I'm like, "Okay, cool. This is
52:44this is cool." Like fighting music you
52:46could bounce to. That's how that's how
52:48Tekken was. But for me, I'll never
52:50forget Tekken 3.
52:53>> I this music, this character's track
52:57made me love the character. He became my
52:59friend, which was Water Egg. Hooray. It
53:02was the most vi again. It was a It was
53:04It was upbeat. It was techno. the
53:06guitar. Whoever did the guitar on this
53:10song, this is legendary.
53:14Like I was like, when that beat would
53:15come on on his stage in front of the
53:18dojo, I'm like, that's my favorite
53:20character. I was like I cuz I it would
53:21get me excited. It like when I hear that
53:24beat, I have to defeat you. Like I
53:26cannot take him off because
53:27>> that's the best feeling. Yeah.
53:28>> Yeah. It's just that. So I would say
53:30that um now I want to give out a Tekken
53:32tag
53:34>> PlayStation version specifically.
53:38>> They got some bangers, bro. They got
53:40This is where they really started to get
53:41Eric experimental
53:43and they started to put they do the
53:45technos, they did the vibes, but they
53:48would put vocals or synth stuff in it,
53:50right? So Yoshi Ritzy stage is a
53:53classic. So basically he's like a a
53:56ninja, right? But during the beat is
53:58this crazy beat, right? Right. And it's
53:59sick. It's dark. You're in a forest.
54:01You're fighting this ninja. Right.
54:03>> And while it's going on, it's like no
54:05eyes, no ears, no m I'm like, "What is
54:08[laughter] going on?" Like, and you hear
54:09this synth verse. No eyes, no ear. I'm
54:12like, but the when the beat hit
54:15you like, yo, [screaming]
54:17like Tekken is like, "We're going to the
54:20rave tonight. [laughter] We're going to
54:22the rave. It's going down.
54:24>> It's going to be like a Blade intro from
54:26the Blade movies." Like the intro. It's
54:28>> Thank you. You know what I'm talking
54:29about. You know that, bro. You me and
54:31you were in the same pocket. Now
54:33>> that that's that was the pocket I was in
54:35because I remember you you said it
54:36perfectly.
54:37>> Blade walks into the club.
54:39>> You thinking everything's cool. I mean
54:40the the you know the people that they
54:42caught in the the victims
54:44>> and then he realizes it's a vampire club
54:46and the rain starts coming down.
54:48>> Starts rain down.
54:49>> Huge Tekken soundtrack.
54:51>> Tech. That's Tekken. That's Tekken
54:52[laughter] right there. So I would say
54:54that. Um and then I would say a couple
54:56album mentions. Tekken Tag 2's uh Jin
54:59theme is goated
55:01>> guitar riffs crazy upbeat.
55:04>> Now Tekken 8.
55:07Wow. They got some joints. I would say
55:11the highlight for Tekken 8 would
55:12probably be in France the twi. You want
55:16to talk about bougie party?
55:19>> The Twilight cruise ship. Tekken 8 is
55:23one of the greatest soundtrack. You
55:26could play that. I see them playing that
55:28in clubs for real. Tekken 8, Twilight
55:31Cruise ship. I've seen it played outside
55:33in real life. It is, bro. It is a vibe.
55:37It's But here's the thing. It's jazz.
55:41>> It's jazz with a bro. It is such a It's
55:45such a bougie
55:47cool vibe. That's a It's a banger, bro.
55:51So, yeah, I want to shout them out. And
55:53uh actually a couple of the composers I
55:55fell in love with the soundtrack. I have
55:56the vinyl somewhere here. Vinyls here. I
55:59got the vinyl. But um I found out the
56:02composers and they followed me cuz I was
56:04like, "Bro, what was y'all thinking?"
56:05>> Oh, that's cool.
56:06>> Bro, the Japanese composers fuz cuz I
56:08cuz they think about a Tekken that I
56:10don't like. A lot of these companies
56:12you'll see they'll be like when you try
56:13to find out who did the track, it'll be
56:15like Sega Sound Team.
56:17>> Yes.
56:18>> Not like no we ain't doing that. who is
56:22the actual composer and then I found
56:24yeah shout out to and all those guys
56:27they killed it. So Tekken goated and oh
56:30last thing the thing that Tekken 8 does
56:32which is pretty amazing they have the
56:34track and then as the round goes on
56:37let's say you get to round three of the
56:38fight they have the climax version of it
56:42>> bro and it's it's like a different twist
56:44on it and it's usually cool as hell and
56:47like Twilight dope decisive blow that's
56:51the the the arena stadium kind of energy
56:53dope and I want to say honorable mention
56:56to um Tamashi This is the the part where
56:58you Jin Kazama is hurt and Lin Zou is
57:02trying to protect him in this very
57:04spiritual forest while his life is in
57:06danger. It's very kind of emotional
57:08moment and it's a very you hear this
57:10very uh awesome Japanese singer in the
57:12back and she's she's going crazy. Yeah.
57:15Crushed it, bro. So, shout out to the
57:17Tekken soundtrack. Yeah, for sure.
57:18Definitely changed my life.
57:20>> Okay,
57:21>> cog. Let's talk about Castlevania. Mhm.
57:24>> How Castlevania the Night makes me feel
57:26like an aristocrat from like the 1800s.
57:29>> Yes.
57:29>> Doing snuff, drinking champagne or
57:32something like that, putting my nose up
57:34at people. That's what Cify the Night
57:35makes me feel like.
57:38Next game makes me feel like
57:41hugging a loved one. It's been a while.
57:45Haven't seen them for a little bit, but
57:46reunite. It could be a great friend you
57:48just haven't seen. But you felt this
57:50feeling of joy and warmth.
57:53>> But
57:54Little bit of sadness, too. Just thrown
57:56in there. Little dash.
57:57>> Okay.
57:58>> Kingdom Hearts 2.
58:00>> This is from Yoko Shimamura, who is a
58:03legend.
58:04>> Street Fighter 2. That's her baby. Guile
58:07theme. That's her baby.
58:09>> Wait a minute. This is
58:11>> Yeah, that's her. Parasite, that's her.
58:14>> Wow. I love
58:16>> Look at her, dude. If you look at her
58:17like video game credits, like what she's
58:19done, she's
58:20>> Give me the name. Give me her name
58:20again. Give me the name. Yoko Shimamura.
58:24>> Yep. Fauna.
58:25>> She is a Japanese incredible.
58:26>> Wait, she's the one that did She did
58:29Final Fight and Street Fighter, too.
58:33>> Yeah, she's a legend.
58:35>> I got Don't tell me she did the She did
58:37the K. If she did the Ken theme, I'm
58:39going to go crazy.
58:40>> I think so. I think she probably did
58:41most of them.
58:42>> That would be wild.
58:46>> That goes hard. What? Oh, she did Guile.
58:50God is fire. Like, wow. Okay, thank you
58:53for this. I did not know who who she
58:54>> Yeah, she is a legend. Yeah, she did
58:56Kinstein as far as I can tell. So,
58:59>> bro,
59:00>> she's incredible, you know, and she's
59:01been around the block for a long time.
59:03She's done some Final Fantasy stuff like
59:05songs here and there. She did uh like 15
59:07was mostly her,
59:08>> but Kingdom Hearts is kind of where she
59:10I think became like more famous among
59:12people.
59:13>> She is like the like the uu of Kingdom
59:16Hearts pretty much. She is like the
59:17grandmother of it.
59:19And Kingdom Hearts 2 is a very
59:23emotional game despite what you might
59:25think about it on the surface. You know,
59:27you're like, "What's this goofy ass
59:28game? This kid with big shoes rolling
59:30around with Donald and Goofy."
59:32[laughter]
59:33But if you're there from one chain of
59:35memories, you're ride or die with these
59:37guys.
59:38>> Dude, Sora, Donald, Goofy are my boys
59:40for life. I would do anything for those
59:42guys essentially. And this game just
59:45kind of takes everything to a whole
59:47another emotional level.
59:49>> Mhm.
59:50>> And I feel happy when I hear it, but I
59:52also feel sad somehow. It's super weird
59:55and I can't really describe why. But if
59:59you turn on Kingdom Hearts, any of the
1:00:00games,
1:00:01>> Final Fantasy has Prelude is kind of
1:00:03like their intro thing,
1:00:05>> you know, the
1:00:07all that stuff. Kingdom Hearts has
1:00:09Dearly Beloved, which is just like this
1:00:13beautiful, elegant. This is like some
1:00:15Beethoven tier [ __ ]
1:00:17>> intro with piano that'll make you feel
1:00:19something. I don't care who you are.
1:00:22>> And the version in two I think is just
1:00:23incredible. Starts off this really nice
1:00:25cello
1:00:26>> and just kicks into that very classy
1:00:30man. I'm thinking of like moments in the
1:00:33game like Lazy Afternoon. You are at the
1:00:35beginning of the game, you start off as
1:00:36Roxis. Oh, and you were it's like
1:00:38there's summer vacation and
1:00:41the a big thing about it is like summer
1:00:43vacation's almost kind of over feeling
1:00:44and like all of us can relate to that,
1:00:46you know, like summer is coming to the
1:00:48end, school is coming back, so you're a
1:00:50little bit sad there's all this going on
1:00:51there with your friends doing all that
1:00:53summer [ __ ] playing there. Very great.
1:00:58Sister Showdown, incredible song.
1:01:00>> Kyrie's theme. Kyrie's theme is like I
1:01:03think one of the best character themes
1:01:05that I could think of in gaming. Her
1:01:06theme is just so exquisite.
1:01:09The afternoon streets. Yeah. Running
1:01:11around with the boys, getting up into
1:01:13mischief. Just
1:01:15>> captures a sense of like innocence but
1:01:17fun at the same time.
1:01:19>> Hollow Bastion. Reviving Hollow Bastion
1:01:212.
1:01:22>> Carries is a call back to one. You
1:01:24return to this place that was like a a
1:01:26hostile world, but now it's been retaken
1:01:29and settled.
1:01:30>> And Organization 13's theme in this
1:01:33game. the piano, who are like the big
1:01:35bads in this game, just sets the tone
1:01:37throughout the entire game. All the
1:01:40Kingdom Hearts soundtracks are really
1:01:41good, all of them, but two, I think,
1:01:44just hits me in the heartstrings a
1:01:46little bit more than the other ones. So,
1:01:49>> so two is So, two is you got
1:01:53>> for soundtrack. Oh. Oh, yeah. Well, two
1:01:55is kind of considered like the goat of
1:01:56the series, and I can't really deny it,
1:01:59honestly.
1:02:01And I don't know, just
1:02:04perfect songs, perfect time, perfect
1:02:06place, all that kind of stuff. It's just
1:02:08one of those things that just came
1:02:09together so
1:02:11>> seamlessly and it just works. Everything
1:02:13about it just works.
1:02:14>> No, thank you for putting me on on her.
1:02:16I I I had no idea that that's who she
1:02:19was. And um all this time I've been
1:02:22rocking out to her. Didn't had no idea
1:02:24it was that that's dope. That's dope.
1:02:26And And now And I know Kingdom Heart
1:02:27fans go hard.
1:02:29>> It's a vibe. That's what's up, man.
1:02:30Salute. I'm definitely going to do my re
1:02:32more research on her. Yeah, we up to
1:02:34number one now, right? We up to number
1:02:36one.
1:02:37>> Yeah, this is I had to really think
1:02:39about it and I was just like, okay, who
1:02:40had the most influence on me? Who is the
1:02:42person who, you know, or soundtrack,
1:02:45right, that you go, okay, this changed
1:02:47my life and it it had to be Yuzo
1:02:50Kashiro. Yuzo Kashiro is definitely my
1:02:53goat. Fun fact, he follows me and we
1:02:58have talked. That's
1:02:59>> I never thought I would wait. I've never
1:03:00met him, but he's on socials a lot. Um,
1:03:03this is the guy who did uh the Streets
1:03:05of Rage series. This is the guy who's
1:03:08done the Revenge of Shinobi. He done
1:03:10Shinmu. Um, he showed me that like he he
1:03:16his he would be like I guess like how is
1:03:19he doing video game music? He should be
1:03:22doing music like like that's he's that
1:03:26good. You know what I'm saying? I'm just
1:03:27like, I don't understand how they found
1:03:28this man. Like, but yeah, like um again,
1:03:31you're talking think, you know, you boot
1:03:32up Streets of Rage and you know, you're
1:03:34in the 90s and I told I told Colin this
1:03:38I was like the title screen to
1:03:42Streets of Rage where the text comes up
1:03:45and you're listening to it. It's this
1:03:47very sad, somber,
1:03:50dark thing.
1:03:51>> Mhm. And this like kind of flute kind of
1:03:53whatever thing kind of plays kind of
1:03:55starting it up. No beat. Then the beat
1:03:58hits and it's it bro it goes so hard and
1:04:02it's a it's a sadness. It's a somberness
1:04:04but there's hope like these three
1:04:07warriors kick
1:04:09and then
1:04:11it's just it's a it's like a hip hoppy
1:04:14technoy
1:04:16dance club think like ' 90s club kind of
1:04:19vibe but it goes so hard. I told people
1:04:22that particular track, play that at my
1:04:23funeral when I die.
1:04:25>> Yeah.
1:04:25>> Play that. That song I said I want at
1:04:28the funeral cuz you like he came from a
1:04:30hard thing. But you know say he came
1:04:32from a hard place but but you know it's
1:04:35a it's a journey. It's like the track
1:04:37represents a journey to me and I love
1:04:38that. So shout out to the that um
1:04:40obviously Streets of Rage one. I want to
1:04:43give one I know people consider two
1:04:47>> the goat for him
1:04:49>> but one I feel as a collective
1:04:53is probably his best work the player
1:04:57select screen fight against is a socal
1:05:00attack the barbarian when you fight the
1:05:02boss bro it goes extra hard now I will
1:05:06say yes we get the streets of rage 2
1:05:09he's at his max level he's at he's at
1:05:11his ultimate power you You know what I'm
1:05:13saying? You've got the uh what you call
1:05:14it? You got it's called Go Straight.
1:05:15That's his legendary straight.
1:05:20>> I get it. Goed. Go. All I would just say
1:05:23there's an album. I like the streets of
1:05:25Ra one album met better, but go straight
1:05:27is goated. There's another song that
1:05:29doesn't get enough credit. Um where you
1:05:31go underground. It's called Alien Power.
1:05:33It's a very weird distinct vibe. It's
1:05:37something completely different than he's
1:05:39ever done before. Alien Power goes hard
1:05:43on Streets of Rage 2.
1:05:45>> Dude, this sounds like an early 2000s
1:05:47song. Like he How is he so ahead of the
1:05:49curve,
1:05:50>> bro? I'm like he he should have been in
1:05:53the club. Like there's footage of Yuzo
1:05:56Cashiro doing concerts
1:05:59with just Streets of Ray and people in
1:06:02the crowd. IT IS A VIBE. I WAS LIKE,
1:06:05"YO,
1:06:06>> he
1:06:06>> It's kind of crazy how he was like not
1:06:09like how is he not a huge EDM artist or
1:06:12something like that?"
1:06:13>> Yes, he should be like a huge EDM. You
1:06:16could tell it's clearly he was
1:06:17influenced by what was going on, but he
1:06:19himself is special. And I'm like, bro,
1:06:22like, so I know he's still doing other
1:06:23stuff and stuff like that, but I also
1:06:24want to give him credit because, bro, I
1:06:27did not know back then
1:06:30>> he did the Revenge of Shan [laughter]
1:06:32piece.
1:06:33the guy,
1:06:34>> BRO. LIKE THE title screen and the the
1:06:37the Shinobi track amazing. Even the B
1:06:42fights and um bro, the everything this
1:06:45man has touched for the most part, bro.
1:06:47He's done Shinmu.
1:06:50>> Yeah,
1:06:51>> I got two of my goats to work with each
1:06:53other. I got Y Suzuki, who's literally
1:06:55the person who actually made me fond of
1:06:57Sega arcade games and you know, the hang
1:07:00ons all that stuff.
1:07:01>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and Yuzo Kosiro came
1:07:03together on Shu. And again, I would I
1:07:06wouldn't say like that it's it's a
1:07:08that's one of those things where I feel
1:07:09it's a very ambient. It's about the
1:07:11environment kind of thing. Yeah. I don't
1:07:13think like Shenmue has bangers.
1:07:15>> Yeah. When I think of Shenmue, I think
1:07:16of like that song that opens when you
1:07:18open your journal like the Yeah, that's
1:07:21what I think of Shenmue. [laughter]
1:07:22>> Exactly.
1:07:22>> Yeah. It's like so I'm never going to
1:07:24say Shenmu has bangers. I want to say
1:07:25that. But it's definitely one of those
1:07:27joint and he he throws a little hip-hop
1:07:30joint. He got some some joist in there
1:07:31too on certain areas. But yeah, I want
1:07:33to give
1:07:34>> Yuzo Kosiro his flowers. I I really
1:07:36think this is a guy that's ahead of his
1:07:38time.
1:07:39>> He still, in my opinion, doesn't get the
1:07:41proper do he deserves, which is weird to
1:07:44me, but he is goated in all gaming
1:07:47circles. I just wish
1:07:49>> like this is a guy that needs a lifetime
1:07:51achievement award. Like he needs to be
1:07:53like we need to be doing that for our
1:07:55luminaries. He's one of them. So yeah.
1:07:57>> Yeah, he definitely tastes better. He
1:07:58showed me that the effect of He's
1:08:01influenced so many. He showed me the
1:08:02effect of what good music in a video
1:08:06game does to the overall quality of a
1:08:09game. And I'm just like, okay, for sure.
1:08:11So, yeah, he that's definitely one of my
1:08:12goats for sure.
1:08:13>> He uh he chose the wrong team. He chose
1:08:15Sega. So,
1:08:16>> probably probably that's what it was
1:08:17though. You real though. It's like it's
1:08:19like you're the best guy on Xbox, but
1:08:21like you know what I'm saying? Like,
1:08:22[laughter] you know what I'm saying? But
1:08:23like no one knows you cuz no one has an
1:08:24Xbox.
1:08:25>> Yeah,
1:08:26>> you can you can make that point. That's
1:08:28probably why he wasn't if he was on
1:08:29>> if he was at Nintendo dude.
1:08:31>> Yeah. He'd probably be he'd be goated.
1:08:33>> Yeah. [laughter]
1:08:34He'd be in some like museum like
1:08:37honorary person or something like that
1:08:39>> next to my or somebody. Yeah.
1:08:41>> I think that's it for him. He's like
1:08:44>> more scrappy I guess.
1:08:45>> Yeah.
1:08:46>> He's so [ __ ] good. It's crazy how
1:08:48good this guy is at music. It's insane.
1:08:50>> It's insane.
1:08:50>> And he still kills it. Yeah.
1:08:52>> Yeah.
1:08:52>> Yeah. I'm like listening to Streets Rage
1:08:542. Streets Race 2 or Streets RA in
1:08:56general
1:08:57>> is definitely one of those games like
1:08:59you play Sega games.
1:09:00>> Yeah.
1:09:01>> And I'm not trying to [ __ ] on the
1:09:02soundtrack or anything like that,
1:09:03honestly.
1:09:04>> But you play and you play Streets of
1:09:06Rage and you're like, whoa, this is a
1:09:08step above anything I've heard on this
1:09:11console facts.
1:09:13>> And like I love the Sonic soundtracks
1:09:15and all that stuff. Those are great.
1:09:17>> But you hear this guy, he's like on a
1:09:19whole different level.
1:09:19>> He's Yeah. You you felt you like every
1:09:22other Genesis game, let's be honest, it
1:09:24was average.
1:09:25>> It was like seeing a a band at a talent
1:09:27show. Then you go see the [ __ ]
1:09:29Beatles and you're like, "Wow."
1:09:30>> You're like, "What?" [laughter]
1:09:32Yeah, bro. I know people who have fallen
1:09:34in love with Streets of Race just soily
1:09:36because it was that music and it was him
1:09:38and they were just like,
1:09:39>> "Man,
1:09:39>> yeah. Follow me."
1:09:40>> So, you grew up in New York, man. I
1:09:42couldn't imagine there was like, dude,
1:09:43walking around like blasting this sound
1:09:46in your headphones would be so good.
1:09:48People were watching me play Sheets of
1:09:50Ra like, "Yo, what's that? I gotta pick
1:09:52that up." Like it was that in in that
1:09:54era, he was at the perfect time in that
1:09:57game. They they took over the beat him
1:09:58up scene and Yeah. And then obviously
1:10:00Genesis with the two-player and stuff
1:10:02like that. Yeah, it was amazing.
1:10:04>> Damn.
1:10:05>> Incredible.
1:10:06>> Yeah, man. What you got? What should
1:10:07>> All right, final one. You brought this
1:10:08up earlier, but it's my number one.
1:10:10Final Fantasy 7.
1:10:12>> Let's get it. I want the track. Let's
1:10:14go.
1:10:15>> It's weird. I associate a lot of my top
1:10:17things with like a vibe and or like a
1:10:19thing in life. Like I said, Cy the Night
1:10:22Aristocrat,
1:10:24Kingdom Hearts
1:10:26kind of like a a warm hug with a t of
1:10:29sadness. Final Fantasy 7 to me is
1:10:33life. All of life, ups, downs,
1:10:37happiness, joy, sadness, despair. It has
1:10:42everything and it hits every single
1:10:44emotion for me.
1:10:47I think of just the main theme when
1:10:50you're like walking around the open
1:10:53world and all this kind of stuff and it
1:10:54just kicks in.
1:10:57Oh my god. Especially when you get the
1:10:59high wind and everything. It's
1:11:01incredible
1:11:02when you get into that first Gova fight.
1:11:08>> That's Addict's favorite track. I
1:11:09forgot. Janeova goes crazy.
1:11:13>> Mhm.
1:11:14>> That was like I think that was the
1:11:16hardest I popped off in remake. The
1:11:17first remake when that kicked off, dude,
1:11:19it was like
1:11:20>> what?
1:11:21>> It hit so hard for me. [clears throat]
1:11:23>> Uh, of course, Onewinged Angel. Everyone
1:11:25knows this song. This is like
1:11:27transcended game music
1:11:30>> and it's just a pop culture thing I feel
1:11:32like at this point.
1:11:33>> Hell yeah.
1:11:34>> Wait, can can I slap you that up?
1:11:36>> Yeah. Yeah. What's your favorite part or
1:11:41segment or snippet? Obviously, we love
1:11:43Angel.
1:11:44>> What's the part that gets you
1:11:47>> crazy?
1:11:48>> Uh, when I think it starts getting like
1:11:51the vocals come in like
1:11:57Okay, I got you. I got you.
1:11:58>> Cuz there was like nothing like that in
1:12:00the game and they save that for the
1:12:04final final boss. You're like, "We're
1:12:06getting vocals in here now all of a
1:12:08sudden."
1:12:09>> Yeah. That is restraint to me.
1:12:12>> Yes.
1:12:13>> You've been You've been holding that.
1:12:15You got this in your back pocket. You've
1:12:17been holding that the entire time,
1:12:19>> bro.
1:12:20>> And you're like, "All right, we're just
1:12:21going to drop this right here."
1:12:23>> Bro, I remember it like it was
1:12:24yesterday. It's like, you know, playing
1:12:26the original on PlayStation. Like,
1:12:28that's why PlayStation one to me is
1:12:29Goldie. Like I I'll never forget I'm
1:12:31playing this and I'm like he's in that
1:12:34heavenly kind of form, right? And you're
1:12:36like,
1:12:37>> "Bro, what is this?
1:12:39What is the insane?" Continue. Continue.
1:12:42>> Um, one track I really like is called
1:12:45Dear to the Heart. Now, this is I think
1:12:47of like there's this one point in the
1:12:48game where you're kind of walking across
1:12:51train tracks
1:12:52>> or something like that towards I think
1:12:53it's towards like the gold sauce area.
1:12:56>> Okay. And the song is just playing
1:12:59>> and
1:13:00it is super nostalgic somehow. And I
1:13:04don't really know why because what's
1:13:06going on in the game at this point isn't
1:13:07like a nostalgic moment or anything like
1:13:09that.
1:13:10>> But just something about it reminds me
1:13:13of like the the good old days, you know,
1:13:15when you're you're rolling with your
1:13:17your friends, you're just goofing off
1:13:19doing dumb [ __ ] or whatever. Complete
1:13:21innocence.
1:13:22>> Listen to it.
1:13:22>> Somehow it does that. And I don't really
1:13:24know how it conveys it to me, but it
1:13:25does.
1:13:26Another song I love a lot is called
1:13:28Under the Rotten Pizza.
1:13:31>> Oh, THAT'S MY I GOT THAT I GOT THAT RED.
1:13:33THAT'S MY JOINT. OH, YOU LIKE that
1:13:35>> in Midgar on the lower like below the
1:13:38plates or whatever.
1:13:42>> It's a mysterious.
1:13:45Yeah.
1:13:46>> Yeah.
1:13:47>> That is like them being like, "Yo, PS1
1:13:49right here, [ __ ] Check out this sound
1:13:51chip we got on this thing."
1:13:53I thought I was one of those that under
1:13:54the rotten piece that that's that's a
1:13:56it's a deep cut. People don't talk about
1:13:58that one.
1:13:59>> It's a great song, man.
1:14:01>> Uh, of course, Aith theme. Everyone
1:14:04knows this song.
1:14:06Everyone when you play this game, it
1:14:08this will resonate with your
1:14:09heartstrings. That's for sure. Tifa's
1:14:11theme I really like as well. When you
1:14:13get to Seventh Heaven, she's there and
1:14:14her theme kicks in. Wonderful. The
1:14:16battle theme, as you brought up earlier,
1:14:19>> is just wonderful. There's so many good
1:14:21battle themes in this game. It's crazy
1:14:24to me. It's just like the GOAT
1:14:26soundtrack. It just capt
1:14:29and and excels exceptionally well at
1:14:32everything. It's one like it to me it's
1:14:34like one in a generation kind of thing
1:14:37like that or like I mean um is just
1:14:40popping off constantly.
1:14:41>> Yeah.
1:14:42>> But seven it just reached a whole
1:14:43another level I think and it resonates
1:14:46with people of all ages. Of course,
1:14:48people our age who grew up playing it,
1:14:50but you know, you got newcomers coming
1:14:51into the series,
1:14:53>> these tracks they're playing and
1:14:54remaking a lot of stuff. Of course,
1:14:55there's new songs in the remake games,
1:14:57but there's a lot of
1:14:58>> the old songs just reworked and
1:15:00reinterpreted.
1:15:01>> Mhm.
1:15:02>> And it's just that damn good, man. It
1:15:05really is worth the hype.
1:15:07>> Oh, yeah.
1:15:07>> I know a lot of people are like, "Oh, I
1:15:08don't like Final F seven. I don't like
1:15:10it." It gets more attention than the one
1:15:12I like.
1:15:13>> That's what it is. It's jealousy. It's
1:15:15jealousy, bro. That's all it is. And I
1:15:18hate to tell you boys, it's by way for a
1:15:20reason.
1:15:22>> It is what it is.
1:15:23>> I don't see them remaking the others uh
1:15:25with the same speed. There's a reason.
1:15:27There's a reason.
1:15:28>> Just let just let go. Just accept it and
1:15:31let go. [laughter]
1:15:33>> But yeah,
1:15:34>> Final Fantasy 6 fans get so mad at me. I
1:15:36don't I don't I don't pick fights with
1:15:38them. They just get You can tell it's
1:15:40jealousy because I never say anything
1:15:42disparaging about six. You know what I'm
1:15:44saying? I I understand Kefa boys. I get
1:15:46it.
1:15:47All I'm saying is like when like it's
1:15:48like they really get angry.
1:15:51>> Yeah. It's Yeah.
1:15:52>> Yeah.
1:15:53>> I've experienced that. I've run into
1:15:54many Final Fantasy 6 fans like that.
1:15:56Many.
1:15:57>> They get so angry
1:15:57>> in real life and online.
1:15:59>> Yes. Yeah. It's hilarious. But no, you
1:16:02got some good picks, man. And you made a
1:16:04good point because
1:16:05>> Final Fantasy 7, it's the range of
1:16:09emotions that that's what makes it
1:16:11special. You got a little bit of
1:16:13everything. I like what you said about
1:16:14the nostalgic track. I'm I'm going to go
1:16:16back to that one. They said that you
1:16:17said that reminds you of the whole beans
1:16:18and stuff like that.
1:16:19>> Um yeah, they just it's just so many
1:16:21that like I said they
1:16:23>> they hit different emotional beats and
1:16:26you get a wide range on Final Fantasy 7
1:16:29specifically. So that's I like your
1:16:30theory, your equivalent to life, right?
1:16:32Cuz that's life. You you got to have the
1:16:34ups, the downs, the good moments. So
1:16:35Final Fantasy 7 it capsules all that.
1:16:37And they have some really really cool
1:16:40heartstring kind of moments as well too.
1:16:42So yeah, shout out to them. I forgot
1:16:43about Jindo. How did I forget a bunch of
1:16:45>> I got to bring up Cosmo Candy because
1:16:47someone will get mad at me if I don't.
1:16:48>> Oh, you have to. Yeah.
1:16:51>> Oh, no. Wait. Uh,
1:16:52>> let's go.
1:16:54Yeah, that's it.
1:16:57[groaning]
1:16:58Yeah. Yeah. Every It's It's all good.
1:17:00It's all good.
1:17:01>> I got to go back. I got to go play. I
1:17:02got to play after this.
1:17:02>> It's all [laughter] good.
1:17:04>> Like the remake games, of course, I
1:17:05love, but the music to me is always like
1:17:07something I really look forward to
1:17:08hearing in these games. when I when I
1:17:10start like a new one, I'm like pumped to
1:17:12hear the music how they're going to do
1:17:14it.
1:17:15>> Absolutely. Yeah. Goed. Goed.
1:17:17>> Shout out. All right. Those are our top
1:17:19five for now. These could change
1:17:21probably pretty often for the most part
1:17:22for us, but that's just what it is right
1:17:24now. So, if your game didn't make the
1:17:26cut, sorry.
1:17:27>> Apologies.
1:17:28>> Make your own list. Post it down below.
1:17:30There you go. [laughter]
1:17:32>> Hey, that was a fun exercise. That was
1:17:34good.
1:17:34>> That was fun. Hell yeah.
1:17:37>> All right. uh games that we've been
1:17:40playing. You've been playing the altars
1:17:44uh loss. Is it last variable
1:17:46>> or is it
1:17:47>> last variable? Last variable. Sorry.
1:17:49Last variable. Yeah. Last variable. Like
1:17:51last day. Last variable.
1:17:52>> Oh, okay. Last. Okay. I'll write that
1:17:54down just sir.
1:17:55>> I wrote last for some reason.
1:17:57>> Last for the time stamps for old Lockort
1:17:59there.
1:18:00>> Yes, sir.
1:18:00>> All right. This is an expansion for the
1:18:03altars.
1:18:04>> Yes.
1:18:04>> All right.
1:18:05>> Yeah, man. Alters was uh last year one
1:18:08of my underrated gems. Uh
1:18:10>> yeah, I remember you me talking about
1:18:10it.
1:18:11>> Yeah, it's one of those games that um
1:18:13you had it's about it was long game. It
1:18:16was about like 20 hours or whatever
1:18:18itself and um you beat the game and
1:18:21again so again you're stuck on a planet,
1:18:23you know, um you find this uh material
1:18:25called Repidium. You you go on like this
1:18:27research expedition and what happens is
1:18:30your whole crew dies. It's just you by
1:18:32yourself. And what ends up happening is
1:18:34you find this uh material called
1:18:35rapidium. Repidium is this top secret.
1:18:37This is the reason why you are sent out
1:18:39there. And this this rapidium has the
1:18:41secret to recreating, you know, more
1:18:44clones and stuff like that of yourself.
1:18:46So while you out there, you have to kind
1:18:48of build a base, do your thing, and
1:18:51you're talking back and forth with the
1:18:53company that sent you out there. And
1:18:55they're a little sh they're a little
1:18:57little shady,
1:18:58>> of course. Yeah.
1:18:59>> Use the rapidium. You know what I'm
1:19:00saying? See what you can do. And that's
1:19:02when you start to recreate the clothes
1:19:04of yourself. Now, the clones represent
1:19:06different periods of your life where
1:19:07it's like, okay, if Brad would have done
1:19:09this, then he would have been a rock
1:19:10star. If Brad like, you know, so it's
1:19:12like, we got to make Rockstar Brad,
1:19:14we're going to make this. Like, so it
1:19:15it's so cool these kind of um altars of
1:19:19Yandolski, which is the main character.
1:19:21And you do that, you beat the game, and
1:19:23I don't want to spoil it, but it is the
1:19:25game is base management. The game is
1:19:28exploration out on the on the planet,
1:19:30resource management, but also the
1:19:32interactions of making sure the altars
1:19:35listen, do what you got to do. They all
1:19:37have their own personalities. They all
1:19:39have their own things. And there's
1:19:41variables with that as well. So, when
1:19:43you beat the game, the game had multiple
1:19:45endings. [clears throat]
1:19:47>> Very powerful stuff. And the game kind
1:19:49of teaches you about life choices and
1:19:53and it's very it's a heartfelt game. You
1:19:55know what I'm saying? Like it's very
1:19:57like you could tell like whoever the
1:19:59writing in this is exceptional. Like
1:20:01they wanted to get a message across
1:20:03about different aspects of life and what
1:20:06it means to be human, right? That's kind
1:20:08of the theme of the alter. So you beat
1:20:09it. I'm like, "All right, cool. I'm
1:20:10satisfied." I did hear it was coming out
1:20:12with DLC. I'm like, "All right, cool."
1:20:13Now, one of my favorite altars in the
1:20:16entire game is the scientist because the
1:20:20scientist is a pragmatic [ __ ]
1:20:22>> [laughter]
1:20:23>> He's like, "Look,
1:20:25>> he's like he's like the the game st he's
1:20:27like Activision." He's like, "Look,
1:20:30>> Bobby, crunch them. Get them in the salt
1:20:32minds. I don't care." He said, "Cuz you
1:20:34got this option to put crunch hours
1:20:36whenever there's like, you know, real
1:20:38events and you cuz you got a day and
1:20:39night cycle, right?" And you're like,
1:20:40"Bro, we got to work past that. If guys,
1:20:43they want good food, they're going to
1:20:44eat mush for 10 weeks. We don't care. We
1:20:46got to get it done." He's one of those
1:20:48guys. He's pragmatic. Here's the here's
1:20:50the solution. you give him things to
1:20:51research and he always errors on the
1:20:54side of I don't care about anyone's
1:20:55feelings and get this [ __ ] done like
1:20:58he's that guy like so
1:21:00>> basically how the DLC goes they they
1:21:04definitely pick an ending that they
1:21:06consider cannon right I ain't going to
1:21:09spoil because there was like some of the
1:21:10endings are wild
1:21:12>> so this is the ending where he stays
1:21:15behind right he figures out there's this
1:21:18oasis on the planet and his scientific
1:21:20for curiosity like wait a minute every
1:21:22time this deadly sun comes around this
1:21:25one part of the planet the oasis seems
1:21:28to survive and it's like it's it it it
1:21:30grows life fauna food like I got to
1:21:32figure out the scientific curiosity me
1:21:34so he's like you guys go on ahead I'm
1:21:36staying here so this and this one is
1:21:40Yandowski the scientist and it's his
1:21:42journey and what's going on so all right
1:21:44let me see how this is going to go bro
1:21:45they this thing first of all they've
1:21:47done a phenomenal job because what he
1:21:50says is, "Okay, I'm not dealing with the
1:21:53the mistake Yandelli made. I'm He's got
1:21:56all these emotional guys. I'm going to
1:21:57make only scientists like me. I'm not
1:22:00going to have any emotional issues with
1:22:02these fools." So, you've got Yandowski
1:22:04the chemist, Yandoski the physicist,
1:22:06Yonoski, you know what I'm saying? So,
1:22:08but the funny thing is he's in just as
1:22:10much problems as anybody else [laughter]
1:22:12because these versions of himself have
1:22:14their own issues. But what's dope about
1:22:16this where the game became mechanics
1:22:18changed now is that before you were in
1:22:20this kind of like rolling base and it
1:22:22was big and it was above ground. Now
1:22:23it's kind of underground. You have
1:22:25limited resources. The thing that's
1:22:27different too is you have to make a cryo
1:22:30chamber. So what happens is you found
1:22:32the secret to preserving yourself in
1:22:35stasis.
1:22:36>> Mhm. But and you have to do this every
1:22:3913 days to have enough saved away so
1:22:43that when the deadly sun comes that
1:22:45wipes off everything from the planet
1:22:47except the oasis. Anything in the oasis
1:22:50can can maintain and sustain itself.
1:22:52Right? So you're building infrastructure
1:22:54from your base to the oasis. Plus you're
1:22:56trying to learn the secret of how this
1:22:59thing is going. So it's very meta. It's
1:23:02very law of continuum. It's geeky. Also,
1:23:05the game goes into
1:23:08they go there. They go into a like you
1:23:10got this thing called Yanbot. [laughter]
1:23:12>> Yanbot.
1:23:13>> Yanbot is a cuz he's your AI companion.
1:23:16And it's it also goes into ethics of
1:23:20what is
1:23:21>> allowed with the human soul and it goes
1:23:25there. Like, bro, tremendous, right? I'm
1:23:2810 hours in on a DLC.
1:23:31>> Damn. I'm like, bro, this I said, wait,
1:23:34how long is this 20? The DLC last 20
1:23:37hours. So, I will say
1:23:39>> hours,
1:23:39>> bro. It is 20. I'm 10 hours in. I'm
1:23:41thinking I'll be finished by the time I
1:23:43do something. I'm Oh, yeah. I'm like,
1:23:45this is still going on. But it it I will
1:23:46say this.
1:23:48>> I highly I do not recommend this DLC if
1:23:51you did not play the base game,
1:23:52>> okay? because it kind of requires, in my
1:23:55opinion,
1:23:57uh not an expert level of play, but
1:23:59you've got to know the mechanics through
1:24:02and through because you can get caught
1:24:03out there. They did uh change things and
1:24:05allow you to save different times, stuff
1:24:07like that. But yeah, no, the game the
1:24:09game is great. They have some new also
1:24:10other new mechanics. Also, alters have
1:24:12secondary skills and sets and stuff like
1:24:14that they can do. Um I don't want to
1:24:16spoil too much, but I would just say
1:24:18this is a fantastic DLC. And then
1:24:20obviously my man Alex Jordan
1:24:23I I'm going to continue to bloate if
1:24:25this man does not get an award for
1:24:27playing not only in the first game eight
1:24:31characters of him and variations who
1:24:33have extremely distinct accents and all
1:24:36it's one guy doing all of this and yes
1:24:40again the matters of the heart come up
1:24:42and then you realize the scientist has
1:24:44to actually change his mentality. You
1:24:47also have this whiteboard that you um
1:24:49kind of almost like a detective board
1:24:51and you try to figure out things
1:24:52scientifically what's going on. So long
1:24:53story short, alter laws variable amazing
1:24:56so far. 10 hours in I can't believe I'm
1:25:00back in this this thing get taken over
1:25:02my life again.
1:25:03>> Yeah. Yeah.
1:25:04>> Yeah. So yeah, I want to shout them out.
1:25:06Tremendous game.
1:25:07>> Yeah. Yeah. I remember you were hyped
1:25:09about it before. Did he the guy get
1:25:11nominated last year? Did he
1:25:13>> he got a few awards from some shows? I
1:25:15believe DICE they won
1:25:18>> they won an award. He I think Alex
1:25:20Jordan himself has not won an award.
1:25:22Okay. But the alter started winning
1:25:24other awards at um other shows. I think
1:25:26Dice they pulled I was there for DICE
1:25:28and there was another one that they
1:25:29pulled away. So yeah. Salute to the
1:25:30team. They're getting some recognition
1:25:31man. It's 11 bit studios. Fantastic job
1:25:34man. They're killing it.
1:25:36>> Okay. Yeah. Shout out to those guys
1:25:38right there.
1:25:39>> Yes sir.
1:25:39>> I wonder if I think Lockmore liked that
1:25:41game a lot too. I wonder if he'll get to
1:25:42it.
1:25:43>> Yes. I saw Lock's uh tweets and again
1:25:46they've got some really cool callbacks
1:25:48for those who played the first one and
1:25:49stuff like that. But dude, I'm telling
1:25:51you guys, man, I shout out to my man
1:25:52Jimmy. A couple of LSM guys, they
1:25:54playing it now, but I'm like, "Cog, this
1:25:55game." And it it's a very addictive
1:25:58game. You can't play and stop. You next
1:26:02thing you know, four or five hours have
1:26:03gone by and Yeah, it's one of those.
1:26:06>> Yeah, that's good stuff. Okay. Very
1:26:08nice.
1:26:08>> Yeah.
1:26:09>> All right. So, for me, Cog, what you
1:26:11got?
1:26:11>> I've been playing
1:26:14Spyro the Dragon.
1:26:16Now, I have never played through a Spyro
1:26:19game, so I was like, "Okay, there's a
1:26:21new Spyro coming out.
1:26:23I know people love these series, these
1:26:26games. I remember they so since the PS1
1:26:29era."
1:26:30>> Mhm.
1:26:31>> I was like, "All right, we got to start
1:26:32plugging these holes that I got from
1:26:34these old games." So, let's start
1:26:35tackling this slowly. So, I decided to
1:26:37play Spyro. I am playing the rem
1:26:39remastered versions of the games,
1:26:41>> okay? cuz I think the original versions
1:26:44are only available on PS3
1:26:47>> and I don't want to dig it out. I don't
1:26:49want to drag that that big old [ __ ]
1:26:50down here. I don't want to deal with
1:26:51that.
1:26:53>> And it was on sale, so I just bought it
1:26:54for like 15 bucks, I think, is for all
1:26:56three games. So, yeah, this comes with
1:26:57all three games. I'm only playing the
1:26:59first game right now, though. I'm not
1:27:00going to play them back toback. I think
1:27:01I'm going to space it out.
1:27:02>> Okay,
1:27:03>> but before I get into all that, let me
1:27:04read a couple writins here. Ninja DC
1:27:06wrote in and said, "Good day, boys.
1:27:08Spyro holds a special place in my heart
1:27:10since I first played it on my cousin's
1:27:12PS1. It made me a fan of Insomniac and
1:27:15had me locked in for the next series
1:27:17when I got a PS2 Ratchet and Clank or
1:27:19Ratchet becoming the definitive game of
1:27:21my childhood. When the remake came out,
1:27:24I was given the opportunity to finally
1:27:25beat the trilogy, which went on to
1:27:28become my first three platinums. Brad,
1:27:30how do you feel or how does it feel to
1:27:32play the OG Spyro games? And what place
1:27:34and price point does Spyro have in
1:27:36modern gaming or modern gaming market?
1:27:40I'll get to that in a second. Tyler uh
1:27:43Kamandinski wrote in said, "Hey,
1:27:44summoners. Spyro is my favorite
1:27:46franchise of all time. The unique and
1:27:48enchanting worlds that lie behind each
1:27:51portal, the banging soundtrack that is
1:27:53very uh '90sesque, and the stunning
1:27:55visuals. How have you been enjoying your
1:27:58first playthrough? I would strongly
1:27:59recommend or encourage playing the
1:28:01second and third game as they are great
1:28:02evolutions. I will at a later point.
1:28:05>> Mhm.
1:28:06>> I don't want to get burnt out though.
1:28:07We'll come back. Uh he brought the
1:28:09soundtrack. Stuart Copeland, the drummer
1:28:12from The Police, actually did these
1:28:13soundtracks, which I think is very
1:28:14interesting and they are good
1:28:16soundtracks. So, shout out Stuart.
1:28:18>> Mhm.
1:28:19>> Uh but how does it feel to finally
1:28:21place? What place and price point does
1:28:23Spyro have in modern gaming mark the
1:28:24market? I think there is room for Spyro.
1:28:26Obviously, he's coming back. Toys for
1:28:28Bob who did this collection that I'm
1:28:30playing. Shout out to those guys. Do
1:28:32Banjo next. I know you guys were talking
1:28:34about that. Do it. It's time to move on
1:28:37from Spyro. You know, you get you get
1:28:38your one game. Let's go back to the bear
1:28:40and the bird.
1:28:41>> They need redemption. So,
1:28:43>> big time.
1:28:44>> They need big time redemption. So, let's
1:28:45get them back. All right, guys. I tr I
1:28:47trust them though with Banjo Kazouie.
1:28:49So, hopefully they'll do it. Um, in
1:28:52terms of Spyus Place in the market and
1:28:54price, I I don't know, 50 60 bucks, I
1:28:58guess. I don't think it should be 70
1:29:00probably.
1:29:02Platformers are weird right now where if
1:29:04you're not Nintendo, it seems like it's
1:29:06hard to sell a platform at a like the
1:29:08highest price.
1:29:10>> A lot of people [clears throat] aren't
1:29:11willing to pony up. Like even Astrobot
1:29:13was 60, I think.
1:29:16>> Yes.
1:29:16>> Wasn't full price. It was 60 or 50,
1:29:18something like that.
1:29:19>> Mhm. And I think Spyro could easily slot
1:29:22into that. Um, I assume it'll be on Game
1:29:25Pass. I assume. Did they say Do you
1:29:28remember if they said it was going to be
1:29:29there when they show that trailer?
1:29:31>> I remember. I actually It was funny to
1:29:33talk about they didn't mention Game
1:29:34Pass. Okay.
1:29:35>> But but yeah, I mean, who knows if that
1:29:37may come later, but for from my
1:29:39understanding right now, I just remember
1:29:41them saying, "Hey, it's coming to the
1:29:42platform." And I'm assuming they have
1:29:44the marketing. You know what I'm saying?
1:29:46Yeah. But as far as the Game Pass thing,
1:29:48I didn't see the mention just yet. Hm.
1:29:50Yeah. [snorts]
1:29:52Yeah. Yeah. I don't really know. I'm not
1:29:53sure because I Oh, we can get that
1:29:55another time, but just get Game Pass. I
1:29:57don't know if everything's going to be
1:29:58day one going forward. Everything. I
1:30:00don't know. I don't really know how it's
1:30:01going to change. We're in uncertain
1:30:02times in the gaming industry right now.
1:30:04So, things are changing quickly.
1:30:05>> Exactly.
1:30:06>> But anyways, yeah, I think Spyro could
1:30:07totally thrive in this market. I think
1:30:10that trailer, if I remember correctly,
1:30:12got a lot of views. Like, people are
1:30:13very hyped for this game
1:30:15>> when it came out. So, I was like,
1:30:16>> and part of it like, dude, I want to I
1:30:18want to get in on the fun. and I want to
1:30:19know what the excitement's about. I want
1:30:20to be there. I want to be hyped with
1:30:21everybody. So,
1:30:23>> got to play it.
1:30:24>> And I think Spyro is just a very
1:30:26charming, simple little game. Of course,
1:30:28it's a remake of a PS1 game, the first
1:30:30one. So, it is very simple. You know,
1:30:32you are Spyro the Dragon. And the whole
1:30:34thing is like, hey, your dragon pals got
1:30:36turned into stone. You got to save them
1:30:38all. And that's the story pretty much. I
1:30:43I guess there's like a villain. I don't
1:30:44really know who they are though or
1:30:46anything like that.
1:30:47>> [laughter]
1:30:47>> I think they're at the very beginning of
1:30:49the game then I don't hear about them
1:30:50anymore
1:30:51>> or any [clears throat] else but you know
1:30:53it's PS1 right PS1 platformer
1:30:56but yeah you like have a hubs you start
1:30:58in you go basically you go to different
1:31:00worlds throughout or lands
1:31:02>> uh throughout the game first one you
1:31:04start in is like more medieval themed
1:31:06and it's like you have a little hub area
1:31:08and there are like little gateways that
1:31:10take you into levels very 3D platformer
1:31:13of that area or that era [snorts] um In
1:31:17each level, there's dragons to save,
1:31:20eggs to collect from like some enemies,
1:31:22and rupes to get. Very classic stuff.
1:31:25>> I will say I was very impressed with the
1:31:27enemy variety in this game.
1:31:29>> There is like different enemies
1:31:31throughout each world that are all
1:31:33themed to the world and it's been
1:31:35consistent throughout the entire game.
1:31:37So, I've been very impressed from that
1:31:38stand
1:31:39>> cuz I'm like, "Yeah, no, it's PS1
1:31:42platformer. There's probably like, you
1:31:43know, five or six enemies in the entire
1:31:45game." No, there's a lot. And they all
1:31:48have like different like move sets and
1:31:50stuff like that. Like
1:31:51>> there's like a fantasy world you go to
1:31:52later on. There's like wizards and they
1:31:54all have like their different elements.
1:31:55There's like a a wind wizard and there's
1:31:57like a fire one, a blizzard one, and
1:31:59there's like ones that push rocks out
1:32:02>> knock you off ledges. I was like, damn,
1:32:04this is pretty cool. I've been pretty
1:32:05impressed from that front. There's
1:32:06enemies like that wear armor, so you
1:32:09can't use your breath attack on them.
1:32:10You got to charge into them. And there's
1:32:12other like big boys that are too big, so
1:32:14you have to shoot them with fire,
1:32:16>> which is cool. [snorts]
1:32:17>> Uh, the game's divided up into two level
1:32:19types. The majority of the game, I would
1:32:21say, is like 90% 80%.
1:32:24You are running around a spiral on the
1:32:26ground, bashing dudes, jumping, gliding.
1:32:29You have like a little glide, which is
1:32:31cool.
1:32:32>> Mhm.
1:32:32>> Those [clears throat] are like the main
1:32:33core of the game, but there are also the
1:32:34levels that revolve around flying.
1:32:37>> Okay. where you're like flying the whole
1:32:38way and each level has like objectives
1:32:41you have to do before time runs out.
1:32:43Like the first one you have to fly
1:32:46through these dude cog, you know how it
1:32:47is. In the this era, games loved making
1:32:50you fly through rings. They love [ __ ]
1:32:52like this
1:32:53>> big time.
1:32:55>> Getting flashbacks to Superman 64.
1:32:57>> Hate it.
1:32:59[laughter] You're flying through rings,
1:33:00but then you got also destroy like a
1:33:02certain amount of like there's these
1:33:03planes going around and there's the
1:33:05trains you got to blow up at the same
1:33:06time and you got to get these chests.
1:33:08So, you have to do all these objectives
1:33:09in one go before time runs out.
1:33:11>> Mhm.
1:33:12>> And it's pretty tricky. Like lot some of
1:33:15them are pretty tough. Like I had to
1:33:17like do multiple multiple runs to get
1:33:18the routing down and all that because
1:33:20they get more complex as they go on like
1:33:22the layouts, all that kind of stuff.
1:33:23>> And they're okay. They're definitely my
1:33:25least favorite part compared to the
1:33:26normal levels, but they're okay. I don't
1:33:29hate them, but they're an interesting
1:33:31experiment. I get it. You're a dragon.
1:33:33You want to fly around. Yeah, you got to
1:33:35do something like that. So, I'm curious
1:33:36how that'll kind of evolve in the later
1:33:38game.
1:33:39>> But yeah, like I said, it's just a very
1:33:41simple game. There's some fun like
1:33:43movement tech later or like movement
1:33:44areas later on. There's like this tree
1:33:45top level that I guess is pretty
1:33:47infamous. If you want 100% everything,
1:33:49it could be tricky. Like I've definitely
1:33:51had this part throughout the game co
1:33:53where I've been stumped or I'm like how
1:33:54do I get up there
1:33:55>> and that's not something you like run
1:33:57into on games that often nowadays you
1:33:59know cuz got yellow paint everywhere or
1:34:02you
1:34:02>> yellow paint the legs the white
1:34:04character telling you
1:34:06>> hey let's check out over there something
1:34:08like that and I'm like oh this is just
1:34:10like cool classic platforming challenges
1:34:13that I like. So I was getting like
1:34:14stunned for a little bit. It's kind of
1:34:15interesting. I'm like man how do I get
1:34:16up there? like thinking about it, trying
1:34:19to stuff, dying.
1:34:21>> So, it's been pretty fun from that
1:34:22standpoint cuz I you don't get that a
1:34:24lot uh from newer games. So, it's been
1:34:26kind of uh nostalgic, I should should
1:34:28say.
1:34:29>> Uh but yeah, I dig the game. The music,
1:34:32like I said, is cool. The remake or the
1:34:33remaster looks really good. Really good.
1:34:36>> Yes, it does. Looks really good.
1:34:37>> So, shout out to Bob's there. Um yeah,
1:34:40simple game, but I'm enjoying it. Simple
1:34:42pleasures I should say with this game.
1:34:44Are you like I said, is this part of you
1:34:46also getting ready for the for the new
1:34:47one? Obviously getting get ratiated.
1:34:50Yeah.
1:34:50>> Yeah, I want to get ready for the new
1:34:51one because like
1:34:53it like Spyro was a game like I remember
1:34:55playing like a demo of it or something
1:34:57when I was young on PS1 and stuff like
1:34:58that. I'm like, "Oh, this is cool." But
1:35:00I just never like got around to playing
1:35:02>> a full game or anything like that. And
1:35:05it's just been kind of one of those
1:35:06things that I've always wanted to get
1:35:08to. They did the Reunited Trilogy and I
1:35:10was like, "Oh, nice. Finally, I'll do
1:35:11this." And I just never got around to
1:35:13it. Round to it.
1:35:14>> Crash Bandicoot's like this for me as
1:35:15well. I've never played through a Crash
1:35:16Bandicoot game all the way, so
1:35:18>> I'll need to tackle those again as well.
1:35:20>> Nice. The Crash series. Jason.
1:35:23>> Yeah, I played some of the remake and
1:35:24boy was that game infuriating.
1:35:27[laughter]
1:35:27>> So, I got to get back to it. I'll have
1:35:29to revisit those and play through them.
1:35:32>> So, I'm just like kind, you know,
1:35:33checking off some of those uh blank
1:35:35boxes. Blank spots.
1:35:36>> My gamer boxes. Yeah.
1:35:38>> Hell yeah.
1:35:39>> You ever played those games? It's like,
1:35:41>> bro, they judge you and they judge the
1:35:42hell out of you, dear. Oh my god. What
1:35:44you mean? You call yourself a gamer?
1:35:46>> Yeah. You haven't played that? I can't
1:35:48play everything. All right.
1:35:50>> It's impossible. That's just Bro, it's
1:35:53so funny how people get old.
1:35:54>> People were like, "Why didn't you play
1:35:55these games when they came out?" And I
1:35:56was like, "Dude, I was playing RPGs on
1:35:59PS1." That's what I was doing at the
1:36:01time.
1:36:01>> Facts. Facts. That's where I come from,
1:36:04too.
1:36:05>> Shout out Spyro. Happy to see him back.
1:36:07>> Hell yeah. Looking forward to the later
1:36:09games whenever I get to them.
1:36:10>> Absolutely. Shout out to Toys Football,
1:36:12man.
1:36:13>> Dope they got their independence to able
1:36:14to do what they want to do. And they
1:36:15were passionate. I remember talking to
1:36:17them
1:36:17>> at um Summer Game Fest and stuff post
1:36:20Xbox showcase.
1:36:21>> They were very hyped about Spyro. They
1:36:24the passion they have for that franchise
1:36:27>> spoke volume. So yeah, they're excited,
1:36:29man. For sure.
1:36:30>> They made Crash 4, right?
1:36:33>> I think so.
1:36:34>> I think so. Because I heard Crash
1:36:35Forward was like really good,
1:36:38>> like super underrated.
1:36:40>> Uh Crash Ford. I'm pretty sure they did
1:36:43because they did like a lot of the Yeah,
1:36:44Toys for Bobs because they did the Crash
1:36:46Insane trilogy, I think. So,
1:36:48>> they're in their wheelhouse right now.
1:36:51>> Do this for Banjo Kazouie next.
1:36:52>> Yeah, they need that. They need to be
1:36:54the stewards.
1:36:55>> Yeah, I think they're because I don't
1:36:56know about Rare anymore. I don't really
1:36:58know what's going on with them. So,
1:37:00yeah. [snorts]
1:37:01[laughter]
1:37:02About that. about that.
1:37:05>> Yeah.
1:37:06>> All right, Cog, let's do sort it out.
1:37:09Anything for you this week? Anything you
1:37:10think needs sorting?
1:37:12>> Yeah. Um, Matt Booty, I need you to come
1:37:14to the front of
1:37:15>> That was going to be me. Yeah,
1:37:17>> you need to come to the front of the
1:37:18congregation. See, this is why fans get
1:37:22frustrated. See, you're making me look
1:37:24bad. I I I I I've been on this platform
1:37:27of LSM. All LSM fans are going to laugh
1:37:29right now. I like transparency. I like
1:37:32communication, right? I don't like when
1:37:33companies don't talk, right? So, I want
1:37:35to be clear. I do like that.
1:37:37>> However, when you talk [laughter]
1:37:41can't be contradicting,
1:37:44not he didn't even allow enough space to
1:37:47go by. You have him and Matthew Ball.
1:37:50Matthew Ball saying one thing as far as
1:37:52exclusivity, right? And here comes
1:37:54[laughter] that booty saying a slight
1:37:57variant and a caveat with as far as
1:38:00exclusivity and you know well nothing
1:38:02set in stone and Xbox fans say no here
1:38:06we go again because a lot of Xbox fans
1:38:08feel you are undoing what Asha Sharma
1:38:11and Ma and Matthew Ball have been saying
1:38:14as far as exclusivity and what the
1:38:16thought process is as far as live
1:38:17service and stuff like that. But he had
1:38:20he felt the need to say even put it this
1:38:22way. Even if you felt that way thi this
1:38:25was not the time especially when Matt
1:38:27Ball is saying the opposite.
1:38:31>> So that's why he's kind of getting the
1:38:33smoke this year. Again I don't have
1:38:34nothing personal with with the man. It
1:38:36just this particular instance I could
1:38:38see why people are upset. It's
1:38:40>> so yeah Matt Booty
1:38:42>> sort it out [laughter] because you've
1:38:45got to be on the same page. Even if you
1:38:47don't, let's say you don't agree, you
1:38:49got to provide a unified front and give
1:38:51the perception. Have that conversation
1:38:53behind the scenes if you feel like maybe
1:38:55not everything, but you literally can't
1:38:57say something different right on stage
1:39:00or whatever this interview with Games
1:39:02Radar was, you know, in conjunction. So,
1:39:04yeah, that that's why I sort it out.
1:39:06It's just to me it I'm just like, how
1:39:08are you guys still still not on the same
1:39:11page?
1:39:13You got one guy saying one thing and you
1:39:15got one guy saying another. You guys
1:39:16have been doing this for years.
1:39:17[laughter]
1:39:18Years
1:39:20>> and booty. You've been in this multiple
1:39:21times. And
1:39:25it's just like once again, I don't know
1:39:26who to believe.
1:39:28>> I know.
1:39:28>> What is the deal?
1:39:29>> That's why people are always going to
1:39:31question. That's why people always going
1:39:32to have the eyebrow raised, right?
1:39:34Because it's these situations. I can
1:39:36have my idea of what I think is
1:39:37happening, but it doesn't matter. The
1:39:39perception is what you just said.
1:39:42>> Yeah. It's just I mean are you doing
1:39:45exclusives permanently? Are you not? Are
1:39:48you case by case basis? Like what's
1:39:50going on here? He said I wouldn't overly
1:39:52fixate on single player. He clarified. I
1:39:55think that's a good rule of thumb, but
1:39:57it isn't some something certainly that's
1:39:59carved into stone about exclusives. I
1:40:01believe in single player stuff. So, I
1:40:04don't know. It is like for you guys
1:40:06especially who are like, you know, big
1:40:08time in the Xbox scene. It's just like
1:40:10you guys have been pulled back and forth
1:40:13constantly, things changing. The brand
1:40:15is this, the brand's now that. And it's
1:40:18like we are in this new kind of era
1:40:20where Asha has been in charge. And it
1:40:22seems like everyone, they're getting all
1:40:24on the same page. But then you get
1:40:26people like Matt Booty who are just like
1:40:28saying not what you think they would
1:40:29say, but at the same time like Matt
1:40:32Booty, you should know better. Do you
1:40:34actually know better? like right now too
1:40:36much and you're saying what you
1:40:38shouldn't say yet
1:40:39>> or
1:40:40>> are you kind of like rebelling somewhat
1:40:43some or something like that trying to
1:40:45damage control like ease the I don't
1:40:47know like I said and you brought up I
1:40:50don't know what to think I don't know
1:40:52I'm not sure yeah as for especially for
1:40:55a company that talks as much as they do
1:40:57I still don't know [laughter]
1:40:59I feel like dude I'm not kidding every
1:41:02week or two I feel like something is
1:41:04changing Right. [laughter]
1:41:08>> There's like some mixed messaging. We're
1:41:10doing this. Okay. One week everything
1:41:12everyone goes with that for like a
1:41:13couple weeks, a month. Maybe
1:41:15someone says something else. It's like,
1:41:17whoa, whoa, hold on. Wait. You're saying
1:41:18this now? This kind of like that. I
1:41:20don't know.
1:41:21>> Sony's got their own problems. Like Sony
1:41:24doesn't talk maybe enough or sometimes
1:41:26they're just they [laughter] just kind
1:41:27of ride it out. Yeah,
1:41:29>> but at least I guess they don't have
1:41:30someone contradicting each other like
1:41:33two high
1:41:34>> highle people essentially.
1:41:36>> Yeah.
1:41:37>> So, my guess is Cog, my theory is
1:41:41they're waiting to see how things do
1:41:42this year and
1:41:45uh of course they're going to see wait
1:41:47to see how uh Gears and that's probably
1:41:50the main one in Clockwork. See how they
1:41:51perform to
1:41:52>> kind of go from there is my guess.
1:41:55>> Okay, I see what you say. But so maybe
1:41:57they're not trying to commit too hard to
1:41:59which way yet
1:42:02>> like a hedging like a booty's comment
1:42:05kind of read like I'm hedging my bet.
1:42:07I'm giving myself an out giving us an
1:42:09out just in case kind of energy
1:42:11>> in case something changes. Yeah. Like
1:42:13but if like if Gears does really well
1:42:16for them being a console exclusive and
1:42:18whatever and Clockwork and they go
1:42:20further in that direction they be like
1:42:22>> wait we're all good. But in case things
1:42:24change and they start going the more
1:42:26multiplatform strategy again, they'll be
1:42:27like, "Hey dudes, like
1:42:29>> we told you.
1:42:30>> We told you not to get too comfortable."
1:42:32So
1:42:33>> very,
1:42:34>> yeah,
1:42:37it's crazy.
1:42:38>> It's crazy.
1:42:39>> Always on Xbox.
1:42:40>> Yeah, I saw Maddie saying some [ __ ] He
1:42:42was like, "Just shut up." Or something
1:42:44like that. [laughter]
1:42:47>> Classic classic Xbox. You never have
1:42:50enough to talk about.
1:42:51>> Yeah. Yeah. Justin Marian wrote in said,
1:42:54"Sort it out to the physical games
1:42:57clowns harassing people online."
1:43:00>> This has been like a contentious topic
1:43:01obviously.
1:43:03>> Being rude and harassing devs, small and
1:43:05large, is only hurting the game industry
1:43:07and the people making games. And for
1:43:08what? To try to get a disc that doesn't
1:43:10have the full game on it. Anyways,
1:43:13you're not getting Sony to redesign the
1:43:15PS6 and invest new discs to fit these
1:43:18large games on them. I now have a Legend
1:43:21Digital Deluxe Premium pre-orders
1:43:23through PSN to show support and disdain
1:43:27for these idiots.
1:43:30>> Damn.
1:43:30>> Throw it out and see who need a
1:43:32therapist.
1:43:34>> Damn, Justin.
1:43:36>> Justin, we got name and shame. We wrote
1:43:38[laughter]
1:43:38>> Yeah, he's standing up business.
1:43:41>> We dude, we got some spicy ones this
1:43:42week, dude. I think we have a counter
1:43:44for that later on, too. So, I wanted to
1:43:46throw those both in.
1:43:47>> Mhm. And just to be clear, all these
1:43:49sorted outs, I don't necessarily endorse
1:43:51any of them or condone any of them. I
1:43:53just think they're funny and I want to
1:43:54put them on the show.
1:43:56>> Absolutely. You got
1:43:57>> That's all I'm saying.
1:43:58>> Mhm.
1:43:59>> Okay, dude. He's calling people idiots,
1:44:02dude. [laughter]
1:44:03>> Hilario, he going in.
1:44:04>> Yeah, he's going in.
1:44:05>> That's walk Forward cut scene wrote a
1:44:08great name.
1:44:10>> My sorted out is for all the fake
1:44:12outrage surrounding ID software.
1:44:16shot right at Colin. If you're so upset
1:44:18about the layoffs, why didn't you play
1:44:19the Dark Ages? And why aren't you
1:44:21playing the Rev uh Revelations expansion
1:44:23right now?
1:44:25>> It plays much more like Eternal.
1:44:27>> Don't even think about using Day One
1:44:29Game Pass as an excuse when Expedition
1:44:3133 and Oblivion launched a month prior
1:44:33and crushed it while also being Day One
1:44:36Game Pass games. Even Stalker 2
1:44:38outperformed it and that game was
1:44:40broken.
1:44:43I mean, I get the sentiment. I get the
1:44:46sentiment. And um, you know, it's tough.
1:44:48Look, I don't want to minimize, you
1:44:51know, the the the the gutting of the
1:44:53studio. Like, my main thing is the
1:44:56luminaries that were lost. That's my
1:44:58thing. Like, damn, they lost
1:45:00>> really veteran leadership, veteran guys
1:45:02who really understand that tech. And
1:45:04yeah, the fear at first was like, whoa,
1:45:06like, you know, are they just a shell of
1:45:08them? I was worried they were going to
1:45:10be turn 10 to be honest with you. We're
1:45:12just like we just keep it around, you
1:45:14know, kind of thing. So I am glad that
1:45:17they got in front of it. The studio made
1:45:18a statement. I am glad that Hugo
1:45:21>> Yeah.
1:45:22>> Martin got in front of it. That's huge
1:45:23because again he just did he's he's
1:45:25steward of you know the Doom the Dark
1:45:27Ages and everything that's going on
1:45:28right now just the Doom franchise right
1:45:29now. And for him to say, "Okay, look,
1:45:32we're still, you know, as big as we were
1:45:34in 2016 and, you know, we're still doing
1:45:37obviously Tom Warren put out the report
1:45:39they're doing, they still have a do
1:45:40project." So, I was like, "Okay, cool."
1:45:41That gave me hope. I'm like, "All right,
1:45:43cool." Now, I'm still not defending them
1:45:45being gutted. You know what I'm saying?
1:45:46But if they're coming out, this how this
1:45:48how I look at it in corporate.
1:45:52If you don't agree with what's going on
1:45:56vehemently, you don't have to put out no
1:45:59public statement doing anything,
1:46:01>> right?
1:46:01>> Cuz you could just be like, "Look, I
1:46:03ain't really feeling this." And I, you
1:46:04know, especially if you're a studio
1:46:06lead, it's harder. I feel like for a a
1:46:09Hugo or a Todd Hart like if they're not
1:46:11truly now granted they may not like
1:46:13everything
1:46:14>> but if they're disgusted
1:46:17you don't get out there and say hey you
1:46:19know things are not that bad guy things
1:46:22are great not you know not great but you
1:46:23know what I'm saying like things are
1:46:24okay guys you know let kind of soo the
1:46:26savage so look yes it's part PR spin we
1:46:29ain't going we're not fools here part of
1:46:31his PR spill we got to we got to soo the
1:46:33savage beast but there's a part of them
1:46:35this is the point I'm trying to tell
1:46:37they've been given some form of
1:46:39asurances of things that they want cuz
1:46:42then you're more inclined to make a
1:46:43public statement and say, "Hey, you
1:46:45know, it's not as bad cuz maybe they
1:46:47told you, hey, okay, we did we we we
1:46:49gutted this, but you're going to get
1:46:50this, you're going to get that or we may
1:46:52build whatever the promises were. That's
1:46:55how corporate works. So that's why when
1:46:56I see him and tell, oh, they're giving
1:46:59you something because you you now want
1:47:01to jump in front of it because normally
1:47:02you wouldn't say anything.
1:47:04>> Yeah. You've been incentivized is what
1:47:06I've been trying to say.
1:47:06>> Yeah, totally. Totally.
1:47:08>> Yeah.
1:47:08>> Yeah. You know, I was kind of surprised
1:47:10to hear they said they were working on
1:47:11Doom again. I don't know if that means
1:47:13necessarily just like an expansion again
1:47:15or something smaller,
1:47:16>> but I was kind of hoping they'd try
1:47:17something different to space it out.
1:47:19>> To space it out.
1:47:20>> Don't get me wrong, I love Doom. I love
1:47:22Doom. I don't want Doom to go anywhere,
1:47:24but like maybe throw in a Quake there.
1:47:25See what their version of Quake would be
1:47:27now or something like that. Or something
1:47:28completely new maybe. I'm not sure.
1:47:31But um
1:47:32>> yeah, whatever they're going to do. I
1:47:34like it. So looking forward to whatever
1:47:35game they got coming.
1:47:36>> Yeah, I'm glad there for sure.
1:47:38>> All right, Marcus wrote in and said,
1:47:41"Sort it out to myself.
1:47:45I am a big physical collector and when
1:47:47Xbox games started coming to
1:47:49PlayStation, I wanted the discs, but
1:47:51sadly I'm strict on discs not being
1:47:53coasters. Indiana Jones, Fortza 5, The
1:47:57Outer Worlds 2, all not complete on
1:47:59disc,
1:48:00>> but I'm a hypocrite. I need Halo. Yes,
1:48:03it's a coaster, but I need that coaster
1:48:05in my collection. Screw you, Xbox, for
1:48:08never putting games on disc, apart from
1:48:11Gears Reload being complete. And screw
1:48:14you, PlayStation, for taking away discs.
1:48:16Sort it out to myself for still buying.
1:48:18Have a good day, Jed. I love these kind
1:48:21of ones. the call outs, but they're
1:48:23like, "I'm guilty of it, though.
1:48:25Everyone's got a price."
1:48:28>> Million dollar man. The million dollar
1:48:30man.
1:48:31>> Yeah. Classic. Well said. Well said.
1:48:33It's It's that. It's
1:48:35>> And they know it. That's the sad part.
1:48:37They know it. They know it. They like,
1:48:38"You ain't going anywhere.
1:48:40>> You ain't going to do shit."
1:48:42>> Exact. [laughter] You know do them. You
1:48:44know how they do it.
1:48:45>> Yeah.
1:48:45>> I don't care what it I feel it was a
1:48:48coordinated strategic move. This is kind
1:48:51of genius by Sony. They go, "Okay, we
1:48:53want to do we want to get rid of this
1:48:55physical media. We want this out of
1:48:56here."
1:48:57>> So, what we'll do is we have the
1:48:59marketing. We're Rockstar.
1:49:01>> Yeah.
1:49:02>> Send GTA out there first.
1:49:05>> Yeah.
1:49:05>> Digital only.
1:49:06>> Let's see what happened.
1:49:07>> Yeah. You ain't going to buy GTA because
1:49:09of digital.
1:49:09>> You ain't gonna buy GTA. You ain't going
1:49:10to buy Gert. Okay. Yeah. Exactly.
1:49:12[laughter]
1:49:14>> They saw they said, "Yep. All right. Got
1:49:16them." Yeah.
1:49:16>> Now, [laughter]
1:49:18>> PlayStation, we're no longer at. And
1:49:20they they're letting you know now
1:49:22>> because they know. All they got to do is
1:49:24send send you a shiny GTA. Dudes already
1:49:28sold they sold for 10 pieces of silver
1:49:29for some Call of Duty Black Ops digital.
1:49:32People already people put their tiki
1:49:34torches down quick.
1:49:36>> I was like like it's [ __ ] You're like
1:49:38talking like it's Judas like selling
1:49:40[laughter]
1:49:42ratt Jesus to the Romans.
1:49:44>> They ratted out Jesus. They sold. They
1:49:46sold for 10 pieces of silver and a Call
1:49:49of Duty. They was like, "Oh my god,
1:49:50that's the greatest Black Ops. I love
1:49:52it." Yeah, Call of Duty Black Ops one
1:49:54and two. That was like a week later.
1:49:56That was so funny.
1:49:57>> They were like, "We got them." I it
1:49:59again, I don't want to. Our physical
1:50:01bros are really bad right now.
1:50:03>> And I want to be respectful cuz look, I
1:50:05do agree. Yes, we should have options,
1:50:06bro. We should have options like the
1:50:08option.
1:50:08>> Yeah. put an attachment because what we
1:50:10don't like is don't in the same breath
1:50:14force F digital right but then say yeah
1:50:18oh by the way our legacy your PS3 and VA
1:50:22those we're just randomly taking them
1:50:23off the bro that's scary now that now
1:50:26you've got the power to just wake up one
1:50:29day and just take things off that I hate
1:50:32that so that's the part I wish they need
1:50:34we need to have like in my opinion like
1:50:36um you know like GOG has like some type
1:50:39of digital preservation. That's not
1:50:42where we have to go now. So that's the
1:50:43fight. I think that's the real fight now
1:50:45cuz digital's happening. But that that
1:50:47was it was just I didn't like them
1:50:48pulling away. I love Vita. Like I'm a VA
1:50:51guy.
1:50:52>> I was like, damn, bro. You just going to
1:50:54just yank these things, you know, from
1:50:56people. So that that's the thing. So
1:50:58yeah, hopefully we could get to that
1:51:00that level.
1:51:00>> You know what's funny is like I saw that
1:51:01kind of stuff
1:51:02>> and I'm used to Nintendo just shutting
1:51:05down stores real quick. So I like was
1:51:08like the the meme first time kind of
1:51:10thing seeing that
1:51:11>> we all sitting there with the with the
1:51:13[laughter] news. Yeah.
1:51:14>> First time. [clears throat]
1:51:16>> Yeah. Like well because Yeah. I'm like
1:51:193DS Story got shut down a while ago.
1:51:21Like they just ready to kill those
1:51:22[ __ ] things as soon as possible. And
1:51:24Nintendo's not great about old games
1:51:27being able to access them a lot of their
1:51:28old games. I mean they got better at it
1:51:31but it's like
1:51:32>> can't buy it. I can't buy them.
1:51:34>> You can't I know.
1:51:35>> Can't buy it. Got to rent him.
1:51:38>> Tough time, brother. Hondo.
1:51:39>> You gotta You gotta pick your battles
1:51:40and take your victories when you can get
1:51:42them.
1:51:42>> 100%.
1:51:44>> All right, Cog, keep it up. The exact
1:51:46opposite.
1:51:47>> You got anything?
1:51:48>> Yes, I do. Um, keep it up, Josh Sawyer.
1:51:52>> Oh, yeah. I just saw this thing you're
1:51:55probably talking about today.
1:51:57>> Yes. So, well, some something new
1:52:00happened today. Let me know cuz I
1:52:01>> I don't know. Well, I just saw something
1:52:03today with it. It was like it was him
1:52:05talking about
1:52:07>> he was playing Fallout I think uh New
1:52:09Vegas and he was talking about the
1:52:10creation engine and how great it was but
1:52:12then he was also just saying how buggy
1:52:14it is the entire time and [laughter] I
1:52:16was like that's so funny. I love that
1:52:17[ __ ]
1:52:18>> I love bro Josh is a real one like it be
1:52:21I I never thought we got I get a chance
1:52:23to um interview him. This is when
1:52:24Ultimate existed, right? Duke Ultimate
1:52:27existed back then and we got him in for
1:52:29uh
1:52:30>> bro one of the more brilliant minds.
1:52:32That guy is he's like not only is an
1:52:34amazing game developer, he's like an
1:52:36amazing historian. He's like he's just a
1:52:39brilliant guy. He's one of the smartest
1:52:41guys in the room kind of guy. You know
1:52:43what I mean? So it's just like you kind
1:52:44of like you got to be on your aame
1:52:46talking.
1:52:47>> Yeah. It's like talking about co you're
1:52:49like oh [ __ ]
1:52:50>> don't want to blow it for this guy.
1:52:52>> Exactly. So yeah, like but one thing
1:52:55that I I gave him credit was like, you
1:52:57know, I know a lot of people get crap,
1:52:58you know, with Phil with the whole like,
1:52:59hey, um, they allow uh, studios to run
1:53:02rampant, too much creative fear. And
1:53:04that's fair. I think there's some
1:53:05fairness to that. But also, I always
1:53:06tell people,
1:53:08>> listen to our Josh Sawyer interview
1:53:09because what you realize was that these
1:53:12companies were like, we're not signing
1:53:13with you, Xbox, because your history was
1:53:15meddling and doing too much and we need
1:53:18assurances that we are going to have.
1:53:20So, so part of his thing was like,
1:53:23>> I'm not joining unless my project gets
1:53:26released
1:53:28>> and it was his side project which was
1:53:30pentiment and he had a smirk when he
1:53:32told us this. I was like, so I stopped.
1:53:34I said, "Wait a minute, Josh. You just
1:53:36say that." I was like, he's like, "Yeah,
1:53:37yeah." And he said, "I I flex some
1:53:39creative muscle there." And I was like,
1:53:40"Ah, that's how we got pepper." But re
1:53:44realistically what I I'm happy to keep
1:53:46it up is that not only that a lot of
1:53:50Fallout fans love the Vegas, right?
1:53:53>> They love, you know, Obsidian and we
1:53:56just didn't understand like what is
1:53:58going on? Why can't this happen? So to
1:54:01hear the news that Josh Sawyer is going
1:54:03to be leading an Obsidianled
1:54:06mainline Fallout game is amazing and I'm
1:54:10super happy for him because no
1:54:11disrespect to Bethesda. Bethesda makes
1:54:13great open worlds I feel. But when it
1:54:15comes to narrative and choice and
1:54:18consequence, I feel Obsidian is way
1:54:19better especially
1:54:22Sawyer that's peak Obsidian to me. So
1:54:28him I would just love to be a fly on the
1:54:30wall just see him talking to you know
1:54:32Todd or whatever and I'm just so happy
1:54:35because that was my dream. No disrespect
1:54:37the pentiment out cuz I will got to
1:54:39throw a little pentiment slander in the
1:54:41sense that I would when when they told
1:54:43me yo Josh Sor's got a game coming. I
1:54:45didn't know what it was. I was like oh
1:54:47if I brought up I'm like double A and I
1:54:50was like oh it's Bible stories the game.
1:54:52Oh, [laughter] like like I I wasn't
1:54:54expecting that. Like I And don't get me
1:54:56wrong, Pentiment is amazing. It just
1:54:59wasn't what I thought. So now I was like
1:55:01it's like Sawyer with a budget. Sawyer
1:55:04with a IP.
1:55:06>> Super happy for him. So I'm sorry. Keep
1:55:08it up Joshua. You a hustler, man.
1:55:09Whatever you doing in the building,
1:55:11baby. I like what you do. You fought
1:55:13because that means he wants to do this.
1:55:15That's what I think people to realize.
1:55:17Numinaries don't just, you know, if they
1:55:19don't agree with something, they like,
1:55:20"Yo, I'm out.
1:55:22I know this guy's person. He's shown it
1:55:24to me that if he doesn't get what he
1:55:26wants, he ain't doing it. So, the fact
1:55:29that he's doing a mainline fallout game,
1:55:32whether that question is going to be
1:55:33whether it's creation engine, which you
1:55:36said like I say choked in the past, is
1:55:38that a mandate by Bethesda say, "Okay,
1:55:40look, we gave you the IP, but you got to
1:55:43use because we need mods, we need, you
1:55:45know what I mean?" That's a good
1:55:47question. Or does Josh push back and say
1:55:50look ours is kind of a different take
1:55:52and we are comfortable as a studio cuz
1:55:54remember Obsidian just uses Unreal.
1:55:56Yeah, I was gonna ask you. Yeah. What
1:55:58they use,
1:55:58>> right? So, that's gonna be the real
1:56:02question. I would love to be a father of
1:56:03development, but yeah, shout out to
1:56:04Sawya, man. He But that man's a hustler.
1:56:08Something else, man. I like
1:56:09>> I guess it's like, is it important for
1:56:10you to be able to pick up cheese and
1:56:13store it in a room, I guess, in my house
1:56:15to you?
1:56:15>> That's a good question.
1:56:16>> Use Creation Engine. But it's a tough
1:56:18one though, Brad, because even though I
1:56:20agree like is that necessary if they're
1:56:22doing a spin, the the thing that I know
1:56:25a lot of people that don't like
1:56:26Bethesda, we got to give them this. I
1:56:27know people don't like Starfield or
1:56:28whatever, but why these games resonate,
1:56:31they almost because of the sandbox
1:56:33nature, they're almost like live service
1:56:35single player games. I can mod it. I can
1:56:37come back. I can create my own crank, my
1:56:39own missions, my own, you know, reality
1:56:43based on the things I can manipulate in
1:56:44the world. And people love that. And I
1:56:47think see this is going to be Sawyer's
1:56:49fight. He not that he's going to get
1:56:51bullied into it, but I know corporate
1:56:54Asha and I'm going to be like, "Yeah,
1:56:55how much money we make on mods and why
1:56:57don't we have that in your you know, I'm
1:57:00curious about those conversations." That
1:57:02gets interesting.
1:57:03>> Yeah. I guess my thing for him would be
1:57:05if he is considering using Unreal.
1:57:07>> Mhm.
1:57:08>> It'd be like it's just way more
1:57:10efficient
1:57:11>> and it's we can get talent on this way
1:57:14easier.
1:57:15>> Yes. More people know how to use Unreal
1:57:16than Creation.
1:57:17>> 100%. Yes. Good call out.
1:57:19>> So maybe it'll be just speed up the
1:57:20process. It just depends what their
1:57:22plans are with the game, I guess, or
1:57:23whatever their vision is like you were
1:57:25saying. Yeah.
1:57:25>> Yeah.
1:57:26>> Case by case. Uh I have two actually,
1:57:28but one of them was going to be them
1:57:31>> getting these Fallout projects in line
1:57:33because I agree with you and Maddie, you
1:57:35guys have been saying this for years is
1:57:36like how is there no Fallout anything?
1:57:39You have 76, but that's not like the
1:57:41main thing. It's a thing and it can
1:57:44please some Fallout fans, but Fallout is
1:57:46like mainly a a single player franchise.
1:57:49It's like with Final Fantasy, you know,
1:57:53you have the online games, but you also
1:57:55have the standalone single player ones
1:57:57still. Those still coming. So, you know,
1:57:59you feed the soul that way.
1:58:00>> Oh, yeah.
1:58:01>> But now you're making it happen, and
1:58:03that's great. I think Obsidian making
1:58:05one makes a whole lot of sense, and it
1:58:07should have happened a long time ago,
1:58:09depending on if they wanted to or not. I
1:58:10have no idea if Obsidian wanted to
1:58:13anyways and whatever how protective Todd
1:58:15was of [clears throat] Fallout and all
1:58:18that kind of stuff. Asha is like no
1:58:22I that like that's the kind of
1:58:23leadership we need. Like I understand
1:58:24Phil had a completely different
1:58:26relationship with them. They seem like
1:58:27good friends with each other, but this
1:58:28seems more like business time right now.
1:58:31>> Yep.
1:58:31>> And I think that's what's needed right
1:58:33now.
1:58:34>> So I'm happy about that. Uh
1:58:37did are they doing another Fallout game?
1:58:39The did um Bethesda say like they're
1:58:42starting work on Fallout 5 or whatever.
1:58:44>> Fallout 5. Yeah.
1:58:45>> Okay. So that's great.
1:58:46>> Yeah.
1:58:47>> I will say though the other hand these
1:58:50games are far away.
1:58:52>> And this reminds me of this won't it
1:58:54won't be probably the same case but it
1:58:55reminds me of Elder Scrolls.
1:58:57>> Oh man.
1:58:58>> It reminds me of like [laughter]
1:59:00look guys, we know everyone hates us
1:59:02right now. We know the chips are down.
1:59:04Uh, break the [ __ ] GLASS. WE'RE
1:59:07MAKING FALLOUT.
1:59:09We're not going to show you dick. Not
1:59:10even a logo, though. Nothing. But it
1:59:13exists. It's like, okay.
1:59:15>> But at this point,
1:59:17>> I think people are okay with that cuz
1:59:18they just want acknowledgement that it's
1:59:20happening. Like Maddie [ __ ] over the
1:59:22moon,
1:59:23>> bro. Living his best life.
1:59:25>> Living his best life right now. He's
1:59:26living his best life with that Cotor
1:59:28thing. Like,
1:59:29>> yes. This this poor boy had Cotor remake
1:59:32announced a while ago and that thing is
1:59:34just like I don't even know what the
1:59:36[ __ ] going on with that game.
1:59:37[laughter]
1:59:38>> So, he needs some wins. So, hopefully he
1:59:40can get that. And honestly,
1:59:43I think with Fallout
1:59:46>> from Obsidian, it'll get more eyes on
1:59:48that company again
1:59:50>> and they'll kind of get maybe more
1:59:52respect. I don't think they get as much
1:59:53respect as they deserve. I don't think
1:59:55they're like top of the line developer
1:59:59>> or anything like that, but I think they
2:00:00are underrated in a lot of regards.
2:00:02>> No.
2:00:03>> So hopefully like I mean I didn't play
2:00:05about it. Didn't look very interesting
2:00:06to me and I know a lot of people liked
2:00:08it, but like
2:00:10>> let's be real. It hasn't been received
2:00:11that well.
2:00:12>> No players. It's it's it's what is it 82
2:00:16or something like that? 83. Whatever.
2:00:18Good solid game. Some flaws for sure.
2:00:21But um yeah, we're not going to sit
2:00:22here. I'm not going to sit here and tell
2:00:23you, "Oh, yeah, it's critically."
2:00:25>> I'm just saying like perception western
2:00:27players like
2:00:28>> that game's like already out of
2:00:30everybody's mind. No one gives a [ __ ]
2:00:31about it anymore.
2:00:32>> For sure. For sure. But yeah.
2:00:33>> So, and sadly Outer Worlds 2 kind of
2:00:36seems like that happened as well. I I
2:00:39heard Maddie and Lock really liked it,
2:00:41so that's good. But
2:00:43>> no one's not enough people are playing
2:00:44it. It's like
2:00:46>> sales
2:00:46>> kind of people just like skipping over
2:00:48it. So maybe this will get more eyes on
2:00:50them again, which would be great
2:00:51>> cuz I would love that. You know, they're
2:00:52they're a local dev for me.
2:00:54>> They're like 10 minutes from me. So I
2:00:56want these I want these guys to do well.
2:00:59You know, I got to support the local
2:01:00team.
2:01:01>> Absolutely.
2:01:01>> Them Blizzard right there. Yeah. It's
2:01:03like got to support those boys. I'm
2:01:04hoping I'm hoping the best for them. So
2:01:06>> No, it's a good point.
2:01:07>> Very excited. I'm actually more excited
2:01:09about their version of Fallout than
2:01:12Bethesda's.
2:01:13>> I think that's more interesting,
2:01:16>> bro.
2:01:18Oh. Uhoh. Careful.
2:01:19>> Just [ __ ] Bethesda, MAN. JUST
2:01:22[laughter]
2:01:23pisses me off, dude.
2:01:24>> Get your [clears throat] piss.
2:01:25>> You got you got your asses [ __ ] beat
2:01:27by The Witcher 3 with Fallout 4. Beat
2:01:31hard.
2:01:33>> Then you come out with Starfield, which
2:01:35I didn't love.
2:01:37>> I played 11 hours of it. Didn't love it.
2:01:39I know people love it. You love it. Cog
2:01:41lo or of course Cog Jean loves it.
2:01:43Maddie, I think enjoyed it.
2:01:46But they've been getting their asses
2:01:47beat in the RPG. They used to be the
2:01:49premier western RPG studio. They've been
2:01:51getting their asses kicked for a while.
2:01:53So hopefully they can get back in
2:01:55action. You know,
2:01:56>> I feel you.
2:01:57>> I dude, please. Just like
2:02:00>> how many times do we still got to do the
2:02:03like the awkward camera zoom to talk to
2:02:05an NPC that zooms in a little to the
2:02:08face? Can we just do something else?
2:02:09Like I understand you want to keep it
2:02:11immersive, but like
2:02:12>> that's real.
2:02:12>> Can't you think of something better at
2:02:14this point?
2:02:15I don't know. Maybe they'll work on
2:02:16that. That's like a pet peeve of mine,
2:02:18bro. You got to work on those loading
2:02:22screens
2:02:23>> enough, man. Like, I was playing
2:02:25Oblivion Remastered. And I know Oblivion
2:02:27is an older game, but it's like [ __ ]
2:02:29a loading screen to go upstairs to the
2:02:31house that I already have to load to go
2:02:33into. Damn it, Brett. [laughter] Like, I
2:02:37remember had a lot of loading screens,
2:02:38too. I'm like, come on, guys. Like if is
2:02:41this like because of the creation engine
2:02:44this is the price to pay? I don't want
2:02:45to pay that price.
2:02:46>> What you you don't want to like
2:02:48manipulate 35 million oranges and
2:02:50potatoes in the world?
2:02:51>> I don't give a [ __ ] about that at all.
2:02:53Well, you could pick up every ad. It's
2:02:54like I don't give a [ __ ] about
2:02:56[laughter] this Coke bottle or whatever
2:02:59you're going to find here.
2:03:00>> You're clearly looking forward to the
2:03:01Obsidian versions. [laughter]
2:03:02>> Yeah, it's like don't get me wrong, it's
2:03:05cool that you could do that stuff. I is
2:03:07really cool. I respect tech like that,
2:03:08but it's like at what cost though.
2:03:10>> No fair to me. That's the cost. I know
2:03:12that's
2:03:12>> I'm going to be I am a non-expert in
2:03:14this stuff whatsoever. I have no idea
2:03:17truly. But I'm just saying as a casual
2:03:18player of these games, that's the
2:03:20feeling I'm getting.
2:03:21>> I got you. I got you. Look,
2:03:23>> we'll see. Sorry that turned into a
2:03:24sorted out real quick.
2:03:25>> I love it. I love it. No, this is good.
2:03:27I'm learning about your tastes and but
2:03:30to your point, you're honest about
2:03:32you're like, "Look, I don't care about
2:03:34that aspect, right, of of of
2:03:36manipulating every object." I Why are
2:03:38you with the antiquated turnaround? Why
2:03:40are you with the the Lotus? These are
2:03:43valid Bethesda creation engine
2:03:45criticisms. I don't think there's
2:03:46anything wrong in in what you said in
2:03:48that regard. And then I I think the
2:03:50point that resonated the most where a
2:03:52lot of people agree with you is they
2:03:54feel the champ. I mean, Bethesda was the
2:03:57champ.
2:03:58>> They were the champ. They were,
2:03:59>> right? So, a lot of people feel like,
2:04:01"Yo, the champ, he been rock." Like,
2:04:03people done lapped him now, right?
2:04:05People will say, they will say, "Look at
2:04:07what Larry's doing." Right. They say,
2:04:09"Look at what you project."
2:04:12>> Project. You made a good point. I forgot
2:04:14when Fallout 4 dropped. It was The
2:04:16Witcher right there. I forgot about
2:04:19that. And that was the the matchup.
2:04:21People were like, it it was a clearcut
2:04:24with it because a lot, not that Fallout
2:04:254 was terrible, but people didn't like
2:04:27the voice protagonist. People didn't
2:04:29feel it was RPG enough.
2:04:31>> Yeah.
2:04:32>> That they felt like they casualized a
2:04:34little bit of certain things with
2:04:35Fallout
2:04:36>> 4 cuz I believe I played Fallout. Let me
2:04:38see. Just we clarify. I think Fallout 4
2:04:40I want to see when this came out
2:04:42exactly. November. Okay.
2:04:44>> Yeah.
2:04:44>> And The Witcher.
2:04:46>> When The Witcher 3 come out? I feel like
2:04:47they were around the same time. Did we
2:04:48get that?
2:04:49>> May. No, sorry. I was going to say I'm
2:04:50pretty sure I played The Witcher.
2:04:52>> Okay. But they were like the same year.
2:04:53Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, I know I wasn't
2:04:55completely off, but I remember it was
2:04:56the comparison cuz Witcher 3 was it was
2:04:58that
2:04:58>> cuz that happened to me cuz I played
2:05:00Witcher 3 then I played Fallout like
2:05:03sometime after that and I was like,
2:05:04"What the [ __ ] dude?
2:05:06>> What the [ __ ]
2:05:08>> You wasn't feeling vats. YOU WASN'T
2:05:09FEELING
2:05:10>> NO, I like I actually really like the
2:05:11bat system. I think the vats are super
2:05:13cool. I really like it. But I think it
2:05:16was more of just kind of not pushing
2:05:19forward. Like I played Fallout 3 and I
2:05:22liked Fallout 3. I was like, "Oh, this
2:05:23is cool." That was my first Fallout
2:05:24game.
2:05:25>> Okay.
2:05:25>> And I'm a very I'm a total noob and like
2:05:28novice into all the Bethesda like RPGs
2:05:30and all that kind of stuff.
2:05:31>> Mhm.
2:05:32>> So, but then I played four.
2:05:34>> Mhm.
2:05:34>> And I was [clears throat] like, man,
2:05:35this doesn't seem like
2:05:38that big of a leap to me.
2:05:40>> Especially because, you know, Fallout 3
2:05:41was PS3 era and this was PS4 era. Yes.
2:05:45>> And like Fallout 4, I love I love
2:05:47Valentine though, the the synth guy.
2:05:48That guy's tight.
2:05:50>> But I was like this base building thing,
2:05:52I'm like this I don't this doesn't work.
2:05:54I don't think. And it's just I don't
2:05:56know. It didn't impress me when The
2:05:57Witcher like three and I've played
2:05:59Witcher one and two before that and that
2:06:01game like really impressed me where I
2:06:02was like, whoa,
2:06:04>> this game's [ __ ] insane.
2:06:06>> Oh yeah.
2:06:07>> I played Fall. I was like, oh, okay.
2:06:09Yeah. It's like, okay, more the same to
2:06:11you. We're a little safe. And like
2:06:14it's because you know like these guys
2:06:15made Skyrim and [ __ ] in Oblivion which
2:06:17are incredible games.
2:06:19>> So it's just like weird to me. They just
2:06:21didn't like
2:06:23>> push the envelope like I expected. It's
2:06:26kind of like damn like this is fine but
2:06:28kind of expected more. I guess
2:06:30>> I get you. I get you.
2:06:31>> So that I need that like ambitious
2:06:35>> but like
2:06:36>> truly Yeah.
2:06:37>> Runs good as well from them.
2:06:39>> Yes. Yes. Your game's got to run good,
2:06:41man. Like Oblivion Remastered still not
2:06:43running good. [laughter] It's like you
2:06:45can't just abandon stuff like that, man.
2:06:47>> Yeah, that's not good. Look, I hate that
2:06:49about that. That they have a in my
2:06:51opinion a major QA issue. I I don't want
2:06:54to Yeah. I don't want to give them the
2:06:55out like, oh, that's just the charm.
2:06:57Like, no. Like, okay. It's one thing.
2:06:59>> I think the charm is okay for like a
2:07:01game or two.
2:07:02>> Yeah.
2:07:02>> Like, I remember when Skyrim came out,
2:07:04Cog, you remember this? Like people
2:07:06laugh at glitches and stuff like that. I
2:07:08like, oh, it's so funny, dude. like
2:07:09someone hinders flying a million miles
2:07:11into space.
2:07:12>> I get it. I remember like Reddit and
2:07:14that whole thing was like, "Oh, I took
2:07:15an arrow to the knee and all that [ __ ]
2:07:17Everyone just [ __ ] eating that." It's
2:07:19fine. You can do that,
2:07:21>> but only so much.
2:07:23>> You're going to have diminishing
2:07:24returns.
2:07:25>> And we're in the era where everyone's
2:07:26ready to [ __ ] jump down their throat
2:07:28right now.
2:07:29>> They get Yeah. People get People are
2:07:32overly critical. Like they they see a
2:07:34starting game.
2:07:34>> Oh, yeah. They're It's like where
2:07:36Naughty Dog's at right now. People are
2:07:37ready to kill that company,
2:07:39>> bro. Remember with um Insomiac, was it
2:07:42Puddlegate?
2:07:43>> Yes. Yeah,
2:07:44>> bro. Like it was it gamers now? Like why
2:07:48does it this like it gets crazy? So
2:07:50yeah, I agree. It's way tougher right
2:07:52now, especially with social media.
2:07:53>> Like you know, you know, YouTubers
2:07:57and this could be Maddie actually too.
2:07:59You know, they're waiting for Todd to
2:08:02say whatever he's gonna say about this
2:08:04game,
2:08:05>> Fallout. the next thing you know they're
2:08:08waiting for that it just works moment
2:08:10[laughter]
2:08:11whatever four times the detail whatever
2:08:13they said they're waiting for these
2:08:14they're waiting [laughter] for these
2:08:16gotcha moments
2:08:17>> oh you already know the clips in 4K
2:08:19they'll be ready
2:08:20>> they're going to be flowing they're
2:08:21ready to go so they got to be extra
2:08:23careful this time around
2:08:26so exciting times though
2:08:28>> yes
2:08:29>> oh yeah quickly had another quick one
2:08:31just shout out shout out to blood blood
2:08:33of the dawn walker they went gold
2:08:34recently rebel wolves with that game
2:08:36which comes out September 3rd I think.
2:08:38So quite a ways to go still seem pretty
2:08:41confident if it's already gone gold.
2:08:43>> Love to see that. I'm very excited about
2:08:44that game.
2:08:45>> The game looks good.
2:08:46>> Looks good. Old Witcher guys, vampires
2:08:49open world.
2:08:51>> Hell yeah.
2:08:51>> Can't do everything in one run
2:08:53playthrough. I love that [ __ ] So sign
2:08:55me up. I hope it's good.
2:08:57>> Sign me the hell up.
2:08:59>> It looks sick.
2:09:00>> All right,
2:09:02where are we at now? Um, oh yeah, we
2:09:04gotta read the audience.
2:09:05>> Yeah, that's okay.
2:09:06>> Sorry, we got me and K just got caught
2:09:08up talking about Bethesda.
2:09:09>> Just having fun. [laughter]
2:09:11>> Sid track.
2:09:12>> Yeah, Cream Lord wrote in said, "Howdy,
2:09:14boys." I don't like that name. I have to
2:09:16I have to keep it up. Uh, for ID
2:09:18Software, the DLC for the Dark Ages is
2:09:21insanely high quality. It's like Eternal
2:09:23in the Dark Ages had a baby.
2:09:25>> I hope that after what M or I hope after
2:09:27what Microsoft did to them, they can
2:09:29recover. Hugo Martin is still there who
2:09:31has been in the game director since 2016
2:09:34which gives me some hope and he just did
2:09:36a stream the other day and made it
2:09:37pretty clear that Doom isn't over yet. I
2:09:39guess time will tell this if they're
2:09:41able to rebound. I have a Slayer's mark
2:09:44as a tattoo and these games mean so much
2:09:47to me so I'm choosing to be optimistic
2:09:49about their future. Sad that so many
2:09:51people were laid off the day before
2:09:53delivering something this excellent.
2:09:55Yeah, true, true, dude. I have heard
2:09:58good things about this DLC. That's
2:10:00really good. I was one of those who
2:10:01wasn't as hot on this game compared to
2:10:03the other two.
2:10:04>> Mhm.
2:10:05>> But it sounds like they've done a lot of
2:10:07things that would entice me more. So,
2:10:09>> yes. Revelations.
2:10:10>> Might get back on that later.
2:10:12>> But I don't own the game.
2:10:14>> Okay.
2:10:14>> Cuz I played on Game Pass when it came
2:10:16out.
2:10:16>> Got it.
2:10:17>> I'm like, maybe I'll catch it on a Steam
2:10:20sale or something. I'm sure there's
2:10:21going to be one around the winter. I
2:10:22don't need to rush to play this game.
2:10:24>> Revolution's late. I I would advise it.
2:10:27It's all the feedback for guys like you.
2:10:30>> Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. I
2:10:33love that [ __ ]
2:10:35And just to be clear, I don't think Dune
2:10:36the Dark is a bad game whatsoever. Just
2:10:39the each Doom game kind of has like its
2:10:41own little flavor and it was just my
2:10:43least favorite flavor of ice cream out
2:10:44of the three.
2:10:46>> That's all.
2:10:46>> A lot of people a lot of people agree
2:10:47with you too. Yeah.
2:10:49>> Jace Tumulovich or Tumulavic wrote in
2:10:52said, "I like to give a big keep it up
2:10:54to my backlog. Everyone seems so
2:10:56concerned with the future of gaming, but
2:10:58this feels like the perfect time to
2:10:59finally return to Yakuza Dragon and many
2:11:03more. And with my ayn Thor shipping
2:11:06soon, I imagine it could go for the rest
2:11:09of my life without needing a new game.
2:11:11Thanks for being there for us backlog.
2:11:13Yik, shout out to your backlogs as long
2:11:15as you don't neglect them.
2:11:16>> Yes,
2:11:17>> the backlog will be good to you.
2:11:19>> Always would be good during quiet times,
2:11:22which are rare.
2:11:23>> I want quiet times, man.
2:11:24>> Same. I'll be like, "Yo, games are
2:11:25delayed." Yes.
2:11:26>> Yeah, dude. Give me multiple months.
2:11:29Give me a Give me a [ __ ] year with no
2:11:31new games. And I would have plenty of
2:11:33stuff to play
2:11:35for.
2:11:35>> Preach.
2:11:37>> All right, let's get a game
2:11:38recommendation from the audience for the
2:11:40audience.
2:11:41>> Shimone. Shimone wrote in. Is that like
2:11:43a Michael Jackson thing?
2:11:44>> Yeah.
2:11:46Shimona.
2:11:47>> Yeah, that's definitely Mike. [laughter]
2:11:49>> Game recommendation. Hey Brad,
2:11:51recommending recommending Romeo is a
2:11:53dead man. Talk about a fever dream, but
2:11:56in the best possible way. Devil May Cry
2:11:58vibes with the weirdest yet most
2:12:00creative experience I've had in a long
2:12:02time. Check it out, y'all. This is
2:12:03Grasshopper. Uh Suda 51.
2:12:06>> Oh, yeah.
2:12:07>> Oh, I love Suda. So wild. He's
2:12:09>> you, Dude. Yeah, his games. I haven't
2:12:11played a whole lot of his games, but
2:12:13when I do play them, I'm like, whoa,
2:12:14these are wild. This man has a vision
2:12:18>> and I think a lot of his vision is very
2:12:20rough from what I've played
2:12:21gameplaywise, but there is a vision
2:12:23there
2:12:24>> and you could tell when you play one of
2:12:26his games it's one of his games. So I
2:12:28always give an aur like that a shout
2:12:30out.
2:12:31>> It looks cool. Oh yeah, I'm in there.
2:12:33Okay.
2:12:34>> Yeah. Shout out Sher of the Damned. Him
2:12:37and Shinji Makami on that game.
2:12:39>> That game was sick. It's ridiculous, but
2:12:41it's it was fun. No.
2:12:44>> Yeah, man.
2:12:45All right, Cog. Last game for us this
2:12:48week, which is This is the Police. I
2:12:51think Micah talked about this like a
2:12:53year. This game's been out for a while,
2:12:55right?
2:12:55>> Yes.
2:12:56>> Yes.
2:12:56>> This is my This is actually my second
2:12:59playthrough. Um
2:13:01>> Yeah. I haven't played this run back.
2:13:03Okay.
2:13:03>> Yeah. I haven't played this game. I
2:13:06played this game first on Nintendo
2:13:08Switch.
2:13:09>> Oh, wow. That's so funny. You playing on
2:13:11a Switch,
2:13:11>> bro. This game I don't know how it was.
2:13:14one of those things. It's early in the
2:13:15Switch life cycle. I I beat Breath of
2:13:18the Wild.
2:13:19>> I'm just I'm on the store. I'm like,
2:13:21"What is this?" Yeah. I'm like, "What is
2:13:23So, I'm like, "This looks interesting."
2:13:24And then I watched the I'm like, "Wait a
2:13:26minute." Um, it's the voice of the guy
2:13:28that did Duke Nukem who plays um Jack
2:13:31Boy. You play this uh kind of
2:13:33slashcorrupt
2:13:35uh police chief. Yeah.
2:13:37>> Kind of thing. So, it's a stream
2:13:38strategy stim adventure game where
2:13:41pretty much with an amazing narrative
2:13:43and amazing voice acting. Let's just get
2:13:45that off the off the bat. And check your
2:13:49uh check your Discord. I'll send you
2:13:50some messages. So, basically, I will um
2:13:53you basically have you run a a police
2:13:56station. You have a set amount of cops
2:13:58and there's like shifts, dayshift, night
2:14:00shift, whatever. And then what happens
2:14:01is the the basic core gameplay is this.
2:14:05on the left side of the screen, cases
2:14:07are coming in. They'll be like, "Yo,
2:14:09>> uh, LA shooting, you know what I'm
2:14:12[clears throat] saying, is going down."
2:14:12And then you've got your officers that
2:14:14they all have a number over them. They
2:14:15have like a that's their professionalism
2:14:17rating. That's how Yeah. how good they
2:14:20would be, you know, anything. Now, a lot
2:14:23of cases, they'll they'll sell you the
2:14:24set amount of cops that probably should
2:14:27go to the scene based on the severity of
2:14:29the crime. So, you be like, "Okay, this
2:14:30is a threeman job." But sometimes you're
2:14:32like, "Hey,
2:14:33>> Officer Sanchez got like a 300,
2:14:36>> you know, rating. I'll put he I'll send
2:14:38him and maybe one other instead of
2:14:40three." You know what I mean? You could
2:14:41do that. Then you have your your ones
2:14:43with low professionalism,
2:14:44>> right?
2:14:44>> And then you'll have, like I said, not
2:14:47only that the random events, but the
2:14:49dope part about it [laughter and gasps]
2:14:51is like all of them have personalities.
2:14:54Some dudes will be like, "Yo, I'm not
2:14:55showing up to work today. I'm going to
2:14:57do this, that, and the third." You know
2:14:58what I'm saying? So you could choose
2:14:59again, the day off. Then you got day
2:15:01shift, you got shift A, shift B of
2:15:04hiring new people. The other thing about
2:15:06the game is detective work. There's also
2:15:08times where it's like, okay, um there's
2:15:11a murder that goes down and you
2:15:13basically it's like a game of Pictionary
2:15:15where you have to there's like, you
2:15:17know, this person was shot, activist
2:15:19suspect was shot on the scene at this
2:15:21thing. You've got like four or five
2:15:23eyewitness accounts who you could choose
2:15:25to believe and then you have the end
2:15:28scene right of how of what happened. So
2:15:31then based on the detectives you assign
2:15:33their professional racism they'll try to
2:15:36construct pictures of what they think
2:15:38has happened. So now you have to put the
2:15:41pictures in sequence the right ones
2:15:44right to see okay in this order I think
2:15:46based on all the information I have now
2:15:48some of them are false positives some of
2:15:50the witnesses are lying
2:15:52>> right and then you got to kind of put
2:15:54that together and then it's still that
2:15:55over even if you solve it right okay
2:15:58that was secret now you have to now send
2:16:01your officers over there to the suspect
2:16:03and then depending on how dangerous he
2:16:06is or whatever it is and the professor
2:16:08you can then solve a and then mess up
2:16:10because the guy got away, someone got
2:16:12killed, you know, on the scene. It's
2:16:14that kind of thing. So, the game has so
2:16:17much micromanagement, but where it
2:16:19really wins.
2:16:21>> First of all, I love the art style. It's
2:16:23called We Studio,
2:16:25>> bro. It's a very distinct art style,
2:16:28right? It a And but what I what I think
2:16:31Brad, bro, they go there. There is no
2:16:34like the fact this game exists with the
2:16:38level of sexuality, the level of crime,
2:16:42the level of vulgarness in the and the
2:16:45voice act. But here's the thing, bro.
2:16:49This game goes there with the most
2:16:51sensitive issue. I load up the game. I
2:16:53was telling Maddie this. I was like, I I
2:16:55sent you a picture.
2:16:56>> Yeah. So, now mind you, so this is your
2:16:58day-to-day management. You're Jack boy.
2:17:00Then you got to deal with the mob. the
2:17:02mall be like, "Yeah, so what's up, man?
2:17:04We going to need you to give us 100,000
2:17:06off the books every month and and you
2:17:08got a ticking timer on that where it's
2:17:11like if you keep ignoring them, oh,
2:17:13you'll see a cinematic where they come
2:17:14up to your house and they just straight
2:17:15murder you."
2:17:16>> Whoa,
2:17:17>> bro. So, you got that then you got city
2:17:20hall, right? So, city hall be like,
2:17:22"Hey, the mayor, you know, he's trying
2:17:23to run the election and look um there's
2:17:25racial tensions right now. The games the
2:17:27funniest ever seen." They like, "Yeah,
2:17:29you know, we got these racial tensions
2:17:31going on." So, I'm going to need you to
2:17:32fire all the black cops while you have
2:17:33all your force.
2:17:35>> Excuse me. This is the police.
2:17:37>> Like, bro, this game is walking. What
2:17:41you going to say?
2:17:41>> Does it take place in a certain time
2:17:43period or is it
2:17:44>> It's official time. It's called You're
2:17:46City of Freeberg, right?
2:17:47>> Okay.
2:17:48>> Jack Boy, the main antagonist who
2:17:51protagonist who you are,
2:17:52>> bro. He's got his own problems. He's got
2:17:54He's like a drunk. He's got a a wife
2:17:56that left him. Of course, voice acting,
2:18:00>> the story, the writing is so like
2:18:04literally the writing is so good.
2:18:06Sometimes I pause the game, screenshot,
2:18:07and laugh out loud. I'm like, this is
2:18:10hilarious. Who did this, bro? So, they
2:18:12have This is the police. They did come
2:18:13up with a This is Police 2.
2:18:15>> Police 2. They tried I guess they tried
2:18:17to take the criticism. They're like,
2:18:18"Oh, there's no action in this game.
2:18:19It's just, you know, whatever." So, they
2:18:21tried to make actually a turnbased
2:18:23component when you send the officers out
2:18:25there. It's okay. It's simple. I
2:18:27>> prefer the original.
2:18:29>> The original to me it for Oh, the music
2:18:32actually. Very
2:18:34>> very jazzy, very time period PC kind of.
2:18:37And they give you a lot of uh different
2:18:38tracks to kind of pick. But highly I
2:18:41think this is one of the most
2:18:42underrated. It's a Steam sale. I believe
2:18:44I think it was still going on. We was
2:18:45doing it where you get the bundle of all
2:18:47their games for like eight bucks. It's
2:18:48like this please this please. One two
2:18:50they got this other game. We studios.
2:18:53It's a crime this game. People don't
2:18:56know about it and I will definitely be
2:18:58the biggest advocate for it. It is
2:19:01hilarious.
2:19:03This is the police co-sign for me. I
2:19:06highly just play a little bit of it.
2:19:08I'll just tell people just play play 20
2:19:10minutes.
2:19:12>> I I dare you that you won't be addicted.
2:19:14I dare you. I'm telling you this game.
2:19:16So this is my like
2:19:17>> go to bed game. This is like you know
2:19:20what I'm saying? Like we do a couple
2:19:22cases. Just let me do a couple things.
2:19:24Yeah. And what it is is um I used to
2:19:26play it on Switch. I beat it on Switch
2:19:28and I rebought it on Steam and on Xbox
2:19:31and I want to get the achievements on
2:19:33Xbox. That's why I was like, "Let me let
2:19:34me knock this out."
2:19:35>> That's cool, man. It's got you itching
2:19:36for
2:19:37>> Yeah.
2:19:38>> Yeah. That's fun when you're like, "Oh
2:19:39man, I want to get the achievements cuz
2:19:40it's that addictive. A reason to keep
2:19:42going."
2:19:43>> Facts. My two comfort food games are
2:19:44usually This is the Police or or Destiny
2:19:46right before bed. All right. Do a couple
2:19:47things and then I call it for the night.
2:19:50>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm really happy to hear
2:19:51like that they go pretty hard on a lot
2:19:54of subject matter.
2:19:56>> Oh yeah.
2:19:56>> Cuz you know the cops deal with a lot of
2:19:59[ __ ] up [ __ ] So it's cool to see like
2:20:00you as a player kind of having to deal
2:20:02with this like you showed me like a
2:20:03black activist got shot in like one of
2:20:05the screenshots or something like that.
2:20:06Like
2:20:07>> very like real like relatable crimes.
2:20:10Yeah. like,
2:20:11>> "Yeah,
2:20:12>> bad."
2:20:14>> Bad should and what I like is they
2:20:16they're not afraid to tackle it, but
2:20:18they have their spin and humor on
2:20:19certain things and they have their
2:20:21serious moments on certain things. But
2:20:22it's really well done. I I can't
2:20:24describe how much fun this game is.
2:20:27>> Yeah. With things like this, like this
2:20:29kind of like subject matter, I think
2:20:30it's it's cool to do, but you just have
2:20:32to do it in a good way. I think like
2:20:34that.
2:20:34>> Yes. Yes. 100%. Like you don't want to I
2:20:37think it should be like not necessarily
2:20:38the entire game like throwing [ __ ] like
2:20:41this at you, but like occasional things
2:20:42where it comes up like whoa whoa whoa
2:20:44whoa hold up here cuz a game like this
2:20:47you got to have like the like the silly
2:20:48petty crimes occasionally and stuff like
2:20:49that.
2:20:50>> Oh bro, dude is streaking out front and
2:20:53grandfather and it's mumbling words. You
2:20:56know what are you sometimes? Oh another
2:20:58thing I forgot to tell you another thing
2:20:59too is it becomes there's not enough
2:21:02cops and there's too much things going
2:21:03on a day. There are a lot of false
2:21:06alarms and what the writing is so
2:21:08excellent is you got to deduce to see
2:21:11okay you know what also some success
2:21:14rate depends on um the sometimes like if
2:21:18you send like a female cop to a
2:21:19situation she might be better diff they
2:21:22diffuse based on whatever that spec so
2:21:24it it's so well written bro and that's
2:21:26the thing that they don't get enough
2:21:28credit it really and then also I forgot
2:21:29another thing there's also the what I
2:21:31would consider the choose your an
2:21:32adventure sometimes you send someone to
2:21:34the scene or you send something and it's
2:21:36like okay you got to the scene but you
2:21:39know let's say car stolen right you send
2:21:41the officer scene um you go there car is
2:21:44unattended do you you know uh sneak
2:21:47around do you um you know guns drawn at
2:21:51like depending on that could go another
2:21:54path so it's still not over and there's
2:21:56these other layers to it that just adds
2:21:58a lot of complexity and it's a lot of
2:21:59fun to it based on decision
2:22:00>> making hell yeah
2:22:03>> uh Billy but not So talented wrote and
2:22:04said, "Sup summoners cog. Cool that
2:22:06you're playing This is the Police, a
2:22:07game I'm a big fan of. Wondering if
2:22:09you've played Dispatch and went
2:22:11backwards. Or was it a recommendation?
2:22:13As a turn-based guy, you might like it
2:22:15or might like the sequel even more is it
2:22:18has some basic XCOM style missions as
2:22:20calls?"
2:22:20>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So yes, um,
2:22:23Dispatch, the only reason why I'm
2:22:24holding off cuz uh, everybody's bad
2:22:26like, "Why you be you you would love it?
2:22:28Why haven't you played it?" Is once I
2:22:30heard, okay, an Xbox version is coming,
2:22:32it's kind of like Final Fantasy. I was
2:22:33like, "Okay, I got to play it on my you
2:22:35know what I'm saying? I want to play in
2:22:36the ecosystem." But um yes,
2:22:38>> that definitely that's on the list. And
2:22:40yeah, like I mentioned, this is the
2:22:41police too. Um it's a it's it's a
2:22:44sequel. It's Jack Boy situation. There's
2:22:46this other uh I believe I think female
2:22:49police commissioner and kind of like a
2:22:51small um not a small like a a very rural
2:22:55town. It's not like big city where the
2:22:57part one is.
2:22:58>> It's different. It's cool. It's not bad.
2:23:01I just don't feel the I think they just
2:23:04they gave in to people, you know,
2:23:06complaining that there wasn't any
2:23:08combat, but it is turnbased.
2:23:10>> It's okay. It's just it's a very simple
2:23:13turnbased. I don't consider it. And
2:23:14sometimes I felt the turnbased was a
2:23:15little unfair to be honest with you. I
2:23:17didn't feel like some of the situations
2:23:18were really fair. But I'm going to get
2:23:20back to this police two. I'm just
2:23:22getting my um you know, my playthrough
2:23:23done with this the police one. But yeah,
2:23:24I am going to give it a shot again. See
2:23:26if it see if my feelings have changed
2:23:28because it's been it's been years. is
2:23:29most of these games I played 2017 2018.
2:23:32>> Yeah, it's been a while. I looked at a
2:23:33trailer earlier and it was from like 9
2:23:34years ago.
2:23:35>> Yeah, bro. It's like a minute.
2:23:37>> Yeah, that's always such a fun feeling
2:23:39when you return to a game that you
2:23:41weren't like necessarily driving with or
2:23:43something like that. I guess you
2:23:44complain, you're like, "Oh, this why was
2:23:46I hung up on that?" It's like not a big
2:23:48deal. Something like that. You can
2:23:49appreciate it in a different way.
2:23:50>> Yeah. Sometimes.
2:23:51>> But the opposite can happen as well.
2:23:53>> Yes. We like, "Oh, this didn't age
2:23:55well."
2:23:55>> Yeah. All right. Let's end the show with
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2:24:12This is from the Diddler. Hey guys. Yes,
2:24:15classic Diddler. A frequent ride in
2:24:17person.
2:24:18>> Oh, frequent. Okay.
2:24:19>> Very frequent.
2:24:20>> Yeah.
2:24:20>> Hey guys, which live service games do
2:24:22you actively play? I currently jump
2:24:24between Overwatch, Marvel Rivals,
2:24:26Zenless Zone Zero, and I rotate between
2:24:28all fighting games. I need to stop
2:24:30playing these games since they are all
2:24:32or are all time wasters, but they always
2:24:35have updates that I have to try. It's
2:24:36the main reason why my backlog is huge
2:24:38as it is. Before live service games, it
2:24:41felt like I had more time in the day. I
2:24:43used to go out a lot more and still feel
2:24:45like I had time to play everything. Now,
2:24:46I rarely go out and these days feel
2:24:49short. I can relate to that.
2:24:52>> Yes. And one thing about that is it
2:24:54seems like I'm sure it actually was
2:24:55true, but less games came out back then.
2:24:58Definitely. Even when I was like in high
2:25:00school and stuff like that, so I had
2:25:01more time to catch up. I remember like
2:25:04waiting months for stuff to come out.
2:25:06>> But now it just kind of comes up real
2:25:08quick.
2:25:09>> Oh, okay. Like I needed something to
2:25:11play, but now there's so much stuff to
2:25:12play.
2:25:13>> Uh live service stuff. The only thing
2:25:14I've been playing kind of off and on is
2:25:16Final Fantasy 14, but I'm probably going
2:25:18to take a break soon because the
2:25:20expansion's coming out in January. So,
2:25:23I'll hop back in when that comes out
2:25:25this time around. But other than that, I
2:25:28I haven't been playing Marathon that
2:25:29much. I might check out that update
2:25:30that's coming out with adds the PVE
2:25:32thing. I might check that out a little
2:25:34bit to check it out.
2:25:35>> Yeah.
2:25:36>> But yeah, I've been kind of grinding
2:25:37more on single player games right now.
2:25:38I've been getting I was away from that
2:25:40for a while, but now I'm getting back
2:25:41into it. Comes in phases. No Overwatch
2:25:44for you. You've
2:25:45>> No, not right now. We're No, we're not
2:25:46playing Overwatch right now.
2:25:48>> Okay.
2:25:49>> Come back and you know, got to take
2:25:52breaks.
2:25:53>> Okay, fair enough. Fair enough.
2:25:54>> Gotta take breaks. Oh, I'm not done with
2:25:55the game forever or anything like that.
2:25:56>> You just you're downtime right now.
2:25:57>> Yeah, I'm just playing other stuff right
2:25:59now.
2:25:59>> Gotcha. Fair enough. Fair enough. That's
2:26:01all.
2:26:01>> Yeah. Yeah. Same for me. I'm pretty much
2:26:03repetitive. I will look into the the
2:26:05marathon PVE mode because I want to see
2:26:06how they tackle that. Um, but it's been
2:26:08Destiny just on my, you know, it's
2:26:11basically the last harrah and they've,
2:26:12bro, they've added so much content. So,
2:26:14my new thing is I'm kind of like just
2:26:17taking my time savoring, you know, just
2:26:19go to this planet, do this activity, and
2:26:21everything has been, it's pretty much
2:26:23the biggest update they've done, and
2:26:25it's such a love letter to, you know,
2:26:26the fans. So, it's like, bro, it's
2:26:29always something to do. So, I'll just
2:26:30tackle one little thing, you know, a
2:26:32time and I'll knock in and jump out.
2:26:33Bro, even Sparrow Racing League, bro,
2:26:35was so much fun. the Sparrow Racing
2:26:37League is back. I'm like, yo, and they
2:26:39got like unique weapons that are crazy
2:26:41amazing. So, I I have tons of content. I
2:26:44ain't even worry about that. So, again,
2:26:45just I jump in every now and then, but
2:26:47for the most part, like you're doing I
2:26:49am also playing my major games cuz I
2:26:51that could be I could get caught up into
2:26:53a dangerous loop doing that. So,
2:26:55>> yeah, cuz I neglected a lot of single
2:26:57player stuff. Like when Marathon first
2:26:58came out, I played a lot of that. So, I
2:27:00was like, it's time to catch up again.
2:27:02I've been very behind. Like, I didn't
2:27:04even played Bond yet. Still, I'm super
2:27:06behind.
2:27:06>> Damn. I'm in early in the beginning, I
2:27:08got to get back to that. I You get
2:27:09caught up, bro. Y
2:27:10>> Yeah. All right. A rabbit that only eats
2:27:13wrote and said, "Since Brad is playing
2:27:15Spyro, I figured this question was
2:27:16relevant. We've seen all sorts of
2:27:19animals, animal based platformers. In
2:27:21this case, Spyro, a dragon, we've seen a
2:27:24raccoons, we've seen apes, lizards, kind
2:27:26of with geck, and cats and stray. What
2:27:28other animals would make good 3D
2:27:30platformer or at least an interesting
2:27:32protagonist?"
2:27:34H an animal, huh?
2:27:38>> I mean, what hasn't been done, though? I
2:27:40felt like we've got
2:27:41>> Yeah.
2:27:42>> So, we got
2:27:43>> You know why I was thinking of Cog? I
2:27:45was like, "Oh, a shark would be a good
2:27:46idea." Then I just remembered the
2:27:48Maneater games, which are actually, at
2:27:50least the first one I played was fun.
2:27:52That was a fun ass game.
2:27:54>> Yes.
2:27:55>> Shout out, dude. Maneater.
2:27:57>> Check out
2:27:58now, but cool ass game, dude. You're
2:28:00just a shark causing terror.
2:28:02>> Causing [laughter] terror.
2:28:04trying to think. I'm like, "Yeah, cuz
2:28:05shark, cat,
2:28:08bandicoot,
2:28:09>> bandicoot." What about a bear?
2:28:12>> That's right. Has a bear. You're right.
2:28:13No, I don't think we've had a
2:28:14>> I can't think of a bear off the top of
2:28:16my head.
2:28:17>> Mhm. We have our hedgehog.
2:28:20>> Got the hedgehog. Yeah.
2:28:22>> And is it um what's like
2:28:23>> Oh, Banjo Kazouie, but I mean he's in
2:28:26the he's like I don't know. He's locked
2:28:28up.
2:28:28>> Yeah, that's true. Yeah, he's locked up.
2:28:30Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah,
2:28:31people Yeah. Vanjo fans about to be
2:28:33upset. But yeah, I mean there's really
2:28:35not much we haven't done. I was
2:28:39[laughter] like I was like elephants are
2:28:40cool. Then I was like oh there was that
2:28:41game Timbo.
2:28:42>> Timbo. Yeah. Yeah.
2:28:44>> Oh man.
2:28:45>> Um I mean I guess a lion or something or
2:28:49a tiger. I don't know.
2:28:50>> A tiger. Yeah.
2:28:52>> That's the only I can really think.
2:28:53>> You're kind of right. It's like what
2:28:55hasn't been done? But [laughter]
2:28:57everyone's kind of attacked that genre
2:28:59with their own spin.
2:29:03And then what the hell was Super Lucky
2:29:05Tales?
2:29:06>> He's like a fox, right?
2:29:08>> Lucky tail. What was that consider? A
2:29:10fox. We've done foxes.
2:29:12>> Yeah.
2:29:12>> You know what I'm saying?
2:29:14>> Yeah.
2:29:16We're running low on animals, man.
2:29:18>> We're running real low on animals. What
2:29:20What could we do, man? I guess something
2:29:22crazy would be like um as a person who
2:29:25has a fear of snakes,
2:29:28snake game would be kind of wild.
2:29:30>> Yeah,
2:29:31>> snake game be kind of wild. Yeah, either
2:29:33snake nether like cobras or pab boa that
2:29:36would be kind of wild.
2:29:38>> Yeah, I'm not super into snakes as well.
2:29:40>> I hate snakes. So, it's like I I like
2:29:43there's a part of me that's intrigued to
2:29:44see like how they would attack a snake
2:29:46or I don't play with
2:29:48>> snake platforming mechanics. Yeah.
2:29:49[laughter]
2:29:51>> Okay. I like that answer. Let's go with
2:29:53that. Snakes.
2:29:53>> Let's go with that. All right.
2:29:55>> All right. Shawn Mason coming in hot
2:29:57right here.
2:29:57>> The homie
2:29:58>> said, "Hey, Summoners, keep bench cut.
2:30:02Ocarine of time, Halo 3, Uncharted 2.
2:30:07Best Sean M. Damn Sean throwing out
2:30:10really tough questions.
2:30:13>> Keith Edge cut. All right, I'll just I'm
2:30:16going to keep Ocarine of Time. That's
2:30:17Stan, baby. We know you're keeping that.
2:30:19>> I'm keeping that thing.
2:30:22>> Bench. Who am I benching? Who am I
2:30:23cutting? Damn.
2:30:26>> Okay, here's my logic. I'm going to
2:30:28bench Halo 3 and I'm going to cut
2:30:31Uncharted 2. And I will say I'm going to
2:30:33cut Uncharted 2. Chart 2. Incredible
2:30:35game. Calm down. Calm down, everybody.
2:30:37Put your put your guns down. All right.
2:30:40Four is my favorite.
2:30:42>> I haven't played through them all
2:30:43recently, but I I think four is my
2:30:45favorite. So,
2:30:46>> it's not the peak with Halo three might
2:30:49be the peak.
2:30:50>> That is clearly. [snorts]
2:30:52>> So,
2:30:54I don't get this is Sean. What are you
2:30:56doing to us?
2:30:59>> Bro, you're getting us in trouble.
2:31:00There's going to be three fan bases or
2:31:03two fan bases out of this.
2:31:04>> I think we're going to make a lot of
2:31:05people mad this episode. Bethesda fans,
2:31:08if we didn't pick their favorite game
2:31:09for soundtracks.
2:31:10>> Oh, yeah.
2:31:12>> And now this.
2:31:13>> And now
2:31:15You know, I'm the Halo guy. So, you
2:31:16know, I'm keeping that.
2:31:17>> Keeping the Halo. Okay.
2:31:20>> Sell the fans. Please don't come for me.
2:31:21But
2:31:22>> it's all right. You gota You gotta be
2:31:23honest with yourself. You got to cut it.
2:31:24>> I'm just I'm just No, no, no, no, no. We
2:31:26ain't cutting them.
2:31:27>> Okay.
2:31:27>> We're just going to put you on the bench
2:31:29cuz I like
2:31:30>> I'm I I like the older ones and I like
2:31:33Breath of the Wild. I I I can bench you
2:31:35just for a little bit. You You one of
2:31:36the goats, but I could put you you got
2:31:38other stuff to play. I'm not cutting
2:31:40Charlie. I'm the same as you cut. I was
2:31:41just I'm going have to catch you. Like
2:31:44[laughter] I don't have that
2:31:45association. And I know people really
2:31:48love this game.
2:31:49>> Is it dope? It's a good game.
2:31:50>> It is dope. And I And I get it. And they
2:31:52they're like, "Cog, you better get on
2:31:53those games." And I think this is
2:31:54>> Oh, you haven't played them?
2:31:56>> No, cuz this is PS3. That's what they
2:31:58get mad at me like.
2:31:59>> You play them on uh PC though.
2:32:00>> Oh, okay.
2:32:01>> Oh, no. Wait, hold on. No, sorry. Let me
2:32:02re. You can play four and Lost Legacy on
2:32:06PC. That's it,
2:32:06>> right? Not. Yeah. The older ones cuz
2:32:08that was I'm assume these are when this
2:32:10is height of PS3 era I'm assuming.
2:32:12>> But you can play on PS5. They have PS4
2:32:15remaster by Blueoint.
2:32:17>> Everyone is saying cuz I remember I
2:32:19played one and I wasn't wowed.
2:32:22>> One is like
2:32:24>> good first step. Two is like it's like
2:32:26the Assassin's Creed thing.
2:32:28>> There you go.
2:32:28>> Two is like the [ __ ] like you're like
2:32:30whoa. What?
2:32:31>> That's what I That's what I heard. I
2:32:32heard people like Carl, you've only
2:32:34played one. Two is when it really That's
2:32:36crazy.
2:32:37>> Yeah. And it's funny people tell me that
2:32:39because I was just like, these are the
2:32:41same people that get mad at me when I
2:32:42say, "Hey, I like Avou as a foundational
2:32:44piece." I'm like, "Bro, it could things
2:32:47could I'm from the era where the
2:32:49Uncharted 2 could happen." You know what
2:32:50I'm saying? That's what I'm trying to
2:32:51tell people. But yeah, no, I do I do
2:32:53need to play it because
2:32:55>> yeah, people really love that game. I'm
2:32:57all right, I got to give it a fair shot
2:32:58because remember, I'm a Tomb Raider guy.
2:33:01So I always looked at one like, "Oh, use
2:33:03a use a fraud, Tomb Raider, male dude."
2:33:06>> Yeah, you're a dude raider.
2:33:09>> Boss, that was great.
2:33:11>> Definitely. So that's I always looked at
2:33:13it like that. But people like, "No, no,
2:33:15it got hard. It I think I did play
2:33:17>> Did they have like What was the Vita
2:33:20one?
2:33:20>> Golden Abyss.
2:33:22>> I played that."
2:33:22>> Oh, you played Golden Abyss. That's
2:33:24funny.
2:33:24>> I played Golden Abyss. That's
2:33:26>> probably the the worst one.
2:33:27>> The worst one yet again. I wasn't wild.
2:33:30It was around launch.
2:33:31>> It was a launch game, I think, or close.
2:33:33>> I was like, "All right, let me give it a
2:33:35shot." Plus, I want to show off my new
2:33:36hardware. And again, it just I was like,
2:33:38"What? People liked it." [laughter]
2:33:41>> I was just like, "It's okay. It wasn't
2:33:42terrible. It's just okay." But again, I
2:33:45didn't play the best ones that I I do
2:33:46need to play.
2:33:46>> Yeah. I would love to get your opinion
2:33:48on especially like two whenever you get
2:33:50to it because you know, you you're not
2:33:51playing it when it was there like when
2:33:53it's crazy new tech, you know, it's an
2:33:54older game now. So, I wonder what you
2:33:56think about it now.
2:33:57>> Yeah. So, two for it time was like
2:33:59>> Oh, yeah. tattoo was insane for it time.
2:34:01The set pieces, dude, in
2:34:04>> next level. Next level. Yeah.
2:34:06>> Dope. Dope.
2:34:07>> All right. A very special boy wrote in
2:34:09and said, "With all the talk about
2:34:11digital media, etc., won't the next
2:34:12phase just be buying direct from
2:34:15publishers websites? I re I recently
2:34:18bought some virtual currency for Skate
2:34:20off the EA website because they give you
2:34:23more coins if you buy directly. Won't
2:34:25the next step just be publishers giving
2:34:28better deals on their stores to
2:34:30essentially cut Sony and Xbox out?
2:34:33>> That is interesting.
2:34:34>> It is interesting. Yeah. I mean, this
2:34:37direct, you know, to consumer kind of
2:34:40thing is interesting. I just think
2:34:42probably Sony is not like going for it
2:34:44like they what control like that store.
2:34:47>> Yeah, cuz like how are you going to buy
2:34:50if like a PlayStation only has one
2:34:52storefront? You can't put your
2:34:53storefront on there as well. Like you
2:34:55can sell things in the game to it, I
2:34:58guess. Or you could sell a code maybe on
2:35:00your website for cheaper
2:35:03>> that you can put in the PSN. I guess
2:35:06that's what you could do cuz that's kind
2:35:07of like the thing they're saying with
2:35:09>> uh the PS discs going in the future is
2:35:11that they will sell
2:35:13>> codes or whatever at retailers
2:35:15>> to avoid like a monopoly them getting
2:35:17sued and stuff like that.
2:35:19>> Yeah. No, for sure. It it's going to get
2:35:21tricky because again all this comes down
2:35:23to control. Yeah. And people trying to
2:35:24to to to maximize revenue. That's one of
2:35:27the main reasons.
2:35:28>> But yeah, we gonna see how the the lords
2:35:30of the storefronts handle this.
2:35:33>> Yeah, that is an interesting point. I
2:35:34haven't really thought about that very
2:35:36much, Special Boy. So, good point to
2:35:37bring up. Yeah,
2:35:38>> good stuff
2:35:39>> because yeah, you know, in the future,
2:35:41whatever, you know, it's like, hey,
2:35:42Square is selling their games
2:35:44$5. I mean, Square Enix wouldn't do this
2:35:46cuz, you know, they got the Square Enix
2:35:48tax and everything, but someone's on
2:35:49their store selling a game for five $10
2:35:53cheaper digital code.
2:35:54>> It's like, okay,
2:35:55>> you know, because there's like there's
2:35:56like key sites out there and all that
2:35:58kind of stuff that do stuff like that.
2:35:59So,
2:36:00>> yeah, maybe that'll creep more into
2:36:02consoles than with everything else.
2:36:03That'll be interesting.
2:36:04>> Yeah, we got to see how this thing is
2:36:06gonna play out. There's a lot of
2:36:07questions. Yeah, we are in such a a
2:36:09weird time right now with gaming with we
2:36:11don't have any kind of answers about how
2:36:13things are going to go for the most part
2:36:14for the next generation. We're kind of
2:36:17at the tail end. We're in a waiting
2:36:18period where there's a lot of questions
2:36:20still like Cogen.
2:36:21>> Yeah, for sure.
2:36:23>> All right. Hashim Barcat wrote in said,
2:36:25"Good day, summoners. Did you play a
2:36:27game that you really enjoyed, but you
2:36:29didn't understand the story clearly? My
2:36:31most recent example is Signalis. It's a
2:36:34wonderful indie survival horror inspired
2:36:35by classic PS1 games. After finishing
2:36:38the game, I had to watch a few lore
2:36:40videos to fully understand the story.
2:36:42Regardless, it has become one of my
2:36:43favorite horror games, and I will
2:36:45recommend it and sing its praises for a
2:36:47long time. Thank you for the great
2:36:48content, and I wish you all a great
2:36:50week.
2:36:52>> I like it.
2:36:53>> This happens to me all the time with
2:36:54games because I love a lot of games that
2:36:55are like this, dude. You play like any
2:36:57From Software game. You ain't You ain't
2:36:59getting all that story your first
2:37:00playthrough. Hell no. Mhm.
2:37:03>> You find out stuff later on, you're
2:37:04like, "Whoa." Then you watch Lorie like
2:37:06uh you were saying, and it's like, "Oh,
2:37:08I didn't even think about that." Or, "I
2:37:09didn't even notice that." Happens all
2:37:11the [clears throat] time for me with
2:37:12games. So,
2:37:14>> I agree. I agree. There's so many years
2:37:16you go back, you like you try to make
2:37:18sense of of it [snorts] or you didn't
2:37:20get the full scope of it. You know what
2:37:22actually happened to me for actually
2:37:23some of my smaller atmospheric games
2:37:26where they like they're very
2:37:29vague on interpretation.
2:37:31>> Yes. And you're like, "Okay, what
2:37:33happened with that?" And then what do
2:37:34you think? You know, I think of games
2:37:36like, um, there was this game I really
2:37:38liked that nobody liked. It was called
2:37:40Somerville. I love this game.
2:37:42>> Oh, yeah. I remember that game. Yeah.
2:37:44>> Yeah. Again, flawed, but it had a couple
2:37:46things about it that I really It was the
2:37:48guys that u remember
2:37:49>> it was like Limbo guys, right?
2:37:51>> Yes. Remember the guys that made Inside
2:37:53and whatever. Yeah. So, they made Limbo,
2:37:54then they made Inside, then they split
2:37:57>> and one group made Cocoon. Mhm.
2:38:01>> Which is amazing, different game. And
2:38:02another big group made Somerville. And
2:38:04Somerville kind of looked a little bit
2:38:06more closer to inside to me. So I was
2:38:08like, let me go with that. See what it
2:38:09is. Turn found out that Cuckoo was the
2:38:11better game. But [laughter]
2:38:13um Somerville,
2:38:15bro, there is some relationships between
2:38:18humans and and robots and some other
2:38:21things and messaging. When you get
2:38:22towards the end, it was one it's an epic
2:38:25sequence and it had multiple endings,
2:38:26but I was like, yo, what did this mean?
2:38:28I watch I was watching YouTube videos
2:38:31and people were their synopsis of what
2:38:32happened and I was like, "Oh, this is
2:38:34great." Like you go down a rabbit hole
2:38:36and stuff like that. So yeah, I love
2:38:37games like that where sometimes it it's
2:38:40open to interpretation or just in
2:38:41general where it's just like, "Hey, game
2:38:42that has a lot of lore, but you still
2:38:44want to figure out, you know, more
2:38:46context and stuff." So yeah, happens to
2:38:48me all the time.
2:38:49>> Yeah, man. [snorts] All right. Uh with
2:38:52that, we're done. Kong, great episode.
2:38:55Love chatting with you as always. Thanks
2:38:57for joining me. Appreciate it.
2:38:59>> Uh before we go, anything you want to
2:39:01plug, final thoughts, words, anything
2:39:03like that, man.
2:39:04>> No, for sure, man. Again, um another fun
2:39:06episode. Summer's always fun. I was
2:39:07like, and I got the car. I was like,
2:39:08"Yeah, we going to do it." Well, you
2:39:09said soundtracks. I was like, "Oh, you
2:39:11couldn't get me here fast enough." I was
2:39:13like, I could I had to cut things off
2:39:15the list. I was like, "This is great."
2:39:16So, yeah, super dope to actually do the
2:39:18show with you and all that. And then, as
2:39:19far as pluging, yeah, man, on lords
2:39:21ofgaming. If guys who really support the
2:39:23articles, it really means a lot to us.
2:39:25We've been growing. We do a lot of
2:39:26stuff. We got lots of LSM members who
2:39:28are are now down with the team and doing
2:39:30their thing and and putting out great
2:39:32content. So, salute to that. And then
2:39:34obviously, you know, ILOP, which I'm
2:39:36working on. We got to get y I know
2:39:38scheduling. We going to work this out
2:39:39because I got sitting around, bro. I'm
2:39:40tired of this. It's been too long.
2:39:42>> Yeah. Going on.
2:39:43>> Just give me like a week heads up.
2:39:45>> A week heads up. Okay. Yep. Fair enough.
2:39:47Fair enough. And we got that. And then
2:39:48obviously, you know, define it through.
2:39:49And then also for the people who um
2:39:51who's been liking our Lord's After Dark,
2:39:54>> uh which has been all f We record it
2:39:56Friday, but it usually drops Tuesday.
2:39:57That's what Insider Gaming and uh little
2:40:00more uh raw, let's just say, or it's a
2:40:03one topic show. You know what I'm
2:40:05saying? One topic.
2:40:06>> It's just one topic
2:40:07>> and go in.
2:40:09>> It's once a week. Yeah, once a week. One
2:40:11topic. Again, you find it on the inside
2:40:12of Gabby Avenue. Shoot salute to those
2:40:14guys. But yeah, get ready for Germany
2:40:16and you know Gamescom, man. So, I'm
2:40:19excited, bro.
2:40:19>> Yeah, man. Make sure to get your rest.
2:40:21>> Yes, it's gonna be brutal.
2:40:24>> That's what I heard. Yeah.
2:40:25>> Gonna be brutal, but
2:40:26>> happy for you. Is Maddie going?
2:40:28>> I heard Maddie is going.
2:40:30>> Okay, cool.
2:40:31>> I said, "Okay, very nice."
2:40:33>> He's got things going on, man. So, I'm
2:40:35like, "All right, let's get it."
2:40:36>> Any of our European homies, you guys see
2:40:38them there?
2:40:39>> Yes.
2:40:39>> Show them some love.
2:40:40>> Absolutely.
2:40:41>> I know Gamescom is humongous, so you
2:40:43might not see him. [laughter]
2:40:44>> I heard that people said, "I'm not ready
2:40:46for the scope."
2:40:47>> Yeah, I heard it's insane.
2:40:48>> I heard it's insane. So, yeah, I got it.
2:40:50>> Oh, yeah. Buckle up.
2:40:51>> Yes, sir.
2:40:52>> All right, everybody. Thanks for
2:40:53watching, listening. Appreciate it. See
2:40:55you next week everybody. Take care.
2:40:57Goodbye. Summon Sign is a product of
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2:41:04The show is written and hosted by me,
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