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0:00Ramon Dino lost the title and came in
0:02third at the Miss Olympia, and then
0:03posted a photo at a nightclub using a
0:05vape and smoking something. That photo
0:08didn't go down well, it didn't go down
0:10well with his fans, it didn't go down
0:12well with those who follow Ramon, those
0:14who admire Ramon, and seeing the
0:16athlete going to a nightclub after such
0:18a horrible result, after such a tragic
0:20moment, the way everything happened.
0:22Ramon was seen at a nightclub smoking a
0:25vape after the Miss Olympia. So I think
0:28he needs to rest, man. Seriously, I
0:30think he needs to rest. I think he
0:32needs to spend time with his family,
0:34travel, enjoy a couple of weeks without
0:36training, let his joints recover.
0:39Imagine if he just does everything,
0:41like, lives a quiet life resting,
0:43thinking about what he can and can't do
0:45. And then next year he can come back,
0:48and if I were in his position I would
0:50prepare for the Olympia. Dude, the guys
0:53are all ganging up and tearing Brandão
0:55apart, saying that he only thinks about
0:57resting and all those other things too.
1:01He's been under pressure all year, man.
1:03He needs to rest his head more than
1:04anything. But I think six months isn't
1:06enough, man.
1:07Six, four, or five.
1:08But do you think what he has to gain
1:10from ARD, man?
1:11Is it what he has to lose if he doesn't
1:13do well?
1:14It's like this, look.
1:15No, if he loses, he has a lot to lose.
1:16If he wins,
1:17I think if you think like that, then
1:18don't go up anymore, man. Retire
1:19already. Exactly. If you're going to
1:21think like that, what do you have to
1:23gain or lose, the guy will never
1:24compete again, man. Geez.
1:27After losing his championship title and
1:29finishing third in the Olympia, Ramon
1:31appeared at a party and in a photo
1:32posted with Bruno Santos, he also had
1:34what appeared to be a vape in his hand.
1:37This was enough to spark a discussion,
1:39with some criticizing and others
1:40defending him. The Momento Maromba page
1:43even shared this video from influencer
1:44Charles Xavier. And check out what he
1:46said.
1:48Ramon Dino lost the title and came in
1:49third at Mr. Olympia, and then posted a
1:51photo at a nightclub using a vape and
1:53drinking whiskey. The comments exploded
1:56. On one side, the criticism was harsh.
1:58He lost and went to a nightclub. Anyone
2:00who wants to return to the top needs to
2:02be focused even offstage. For these
2:04followers, the image looks bad and
2:06raises doubts about his commitment to
2:08the next Olympics. On the other side,
2:10the response was direct. They're going
2:12to forbid the guy from living. Ramon
2:13spent months dieting, training, and
2:15under pressure. The championship is
2:17over. He can't go out with friends,
2:19enjoy a night out, and have time for
2:21his family. Ramon has been among the
2:23best in the world for years, but does
2:26that mean he needs to live 24 hours a
2:28day for bodybuilding tourism? And you,
2:31in your opinion, should Ramon give up
2:33these nights to return to the top, or
2:35have the fans gone too far? Leave your
2:37opinion in the comments.
2:40Well, another person who commented on
2:41the subject, and this one is better
2:43known by the guys here and is quite
2:44relevant in his comments, was Shain.
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4:02During the night, this photo of Ramon
4:04at a club with Bruno Santos came out,
4:07with what appears to be a vape in his
4:09hand. This photo here didn't go down
4:12well, it didn't go down well with the
4:14fans, it didn't go down well with those
4:16who follow Ramon, with those who admire
4:18Ramon, because a good portion of the
4:19fans are very angry with Ramon, they're
4:21giving him a hard time, making harsh
4:23criticisms, but a good part of the
4:25public cried, they were moved by Ramon
4:27finishing in third place, they were
4:29really very sad and seeing the athlete
4:30going to a nightclub after such a
4:32horrible result, after such a tragic
4:34moment, the way everything happened,
4:36doesn't sit well to say the least. Oh,
4:39but he has the right to, okay, he has
4:41the right to do what he wants, to eat,
4:42to have fun. But, at this moment with
4:45the fans, this doesn't sit well. At
4:48this moment, a little tact and thinking
4:50about everyone who supports him,
4:52because the guy who cried because Ramon
4:54finished third, the guy who was moved
4:56by Ramon, by everything that happened,
4:58the guy who went to see him at a
5:00nightclub right after, or even goes,
5:02but goes to a more private place,
5:04doesn't take a picture, doesn't post,
5:06it wasn't the right moment. I'm not
5:08saying the athlete can't do that, that
5:10he doesn't have the right, but this
5:12wasn't the time to do that, much less
5:14to post a photo. And again, because
5:16Ramon's fans are going to get very
5:18angry with what I'm saying. He has the
5:20right to live, to enjoy himself, but
5:22the timing is very bad. And this photo
5:24adds another layer to this tragedy for
5:27those who love bodybuilding. This
5:30weekend was sad for us as fans because,
5:32while the opponents and the people who
5:34lost were there posting and thanking
5:36everyone and saying they'll come back
5:38stronger next year, Ramon made that
5:40post and had other posts giving
5:41indirect or direct jabs at the press,
5:43who now can speak ill of him, and have
5:45reason to. And in truth, everyone
5:49wanted to say only good things about
5:50Ramon, everyone wanted to praise Ramon,
5:52everyone praises him. I personally
5:55praise Ramon whenever I can. And what I
5:58really wanted today, this Sunday, was
6:00to be making a video saying Ramon,
6:01two-time champion, clapping, laughing,
6:03celebrating. Unfortunately, that's not
6:06it. We have to make a video like this.
6:07So I am certain that I am quite
6:08saddened by having to make a video like
6:10this. I don't like making critical
6:11videos. Ramon is an idol of Brazilian
6:13sport. Ramon has all the potential to
6:16regain this title, but certainly things
6:18happened, as he himself said, that need
6:20to be restudied, redone, rethought, and
6:23changed. And I hope from the bottom of
6:27my heart that with everything that
6:28happened, with all these mistakes, with
6:30all this management that once again
6:32wasn't the best—and woe to anyone who
6:34criticizes, because they'll take a lot
6:36of flak for criticizing—but I hope
6:37from the bottom of my heart that this
6:39improves, that it gives Ramon an extra
6:41boost, that it gives him a different
6:43perspective, even more so, as he said,
6:44to improve what needs to be improved.
6:47That's right.
6:48And guys, this complete video by Shin
6:50is amazing, where he did a
6:51retrospective of Gino's preparation,
6:53which can even explain a lot of his
6:54result. We'll make sure to leave it
6:56here in the description for anyone who
6:58wants to check it out, because the part
6:59we separated was just a snippet that
7:00makes more sense in relation to the
7:02subject of this video. Yes, but Bruno
7:04Viot was another influencer who talked
7:05about Ramon's attitude and seems to
7:07have a different opinion than Shain.
7:09Ramon was seen at a club smoking vape
7:12after the Mr. Olympia. [ __ ] it, that's
7:15my reaction. [ __ ] it. Ramon won Mr.
7:17Olympia, he was the Classic Physique
7:19champion. It would be really cool if he
7:21could win several times, if he were
7:23champion in sequence, but anyway, he
7:25reached an absurd physique. He's
7:27already won in my opinion, in the sense
7:29of winning in life. If he doesn't have
7:32that ambition to keep winning year
7:34after year, that's up to him. I
7:38understand that he has incredible
7:39genetics, he could use that to be one
7:41of the best in history, but in terms of
7:42the history of bodybuilding in Brazil,
7:44he already is, whether he likes it or
7:45not, one of the greatest in history.
7:48He'll already be remembered. That's an
7:49absolute fact. And the fact that, oh,
7:51this year he came in third, that year
7:52he came in fourth, doesn't erase that,
7:54doesn't change that. I really think
7:56it's a shame in the sense that he could
7:58have gone further. It would have been
7:59sensational if that had happened. But
8:01if he wanted to stop there, I'm not
8:03going to compete anymore, I've had
8:04enough, everything's fine.
8:06Well, the truth is that once again Amon
8:08ended up putting himself in a
8:09controversy and dividing opinions
8:10regarding his actions. But now, what do
8:13you think of this specific situation?
8:15Comment below, but continue watching
8:16this video because, still talking about
8:18Ramon, in Renato Cariani's live stream,
8:20some opinions were given about the next
8:21steps Dino should take, opinions that
8:23caused controversy, and Igor Capró
8:25even made a video that ended up giving
8:26even more prominence to the whole thing
8:28. We've included a clip from his video
8:30here, so check it out. Hey Rafa, we
8:33were just talking, uh, after the
8:35emotion, the friendship, uh, and
8:37everything that involves our
8:39relationship with Ramon, in other words
8:42, digesting Ramon's defeat, what's your
8:47take on how the competition went? What
8:50would be the next steps? If you think
8:52Ramon should go to the Arnold Classic
8:54in Ohio, if you were Ramon, let's say,
8:55Ramon should go, that's the wrong topic
8:57, because he has to do what he thinks
8:59is best. But if you were Ramon, faced
9:01with this defeat, would you go to OA to
9:02mark your territory, saying: "Hey, I
9:04don't think I'm dead yet, look, I won
9:05and look at the physique I can show,
9:07you know, man?
9:08Or not, let's work this year and let's
9:10make next year happen.
9:11I think Ramon is tired. I think he's
9:14been extremely dry for too long, almost
9:16to the point of being ready to compete
9:18for more than two months,
9:20much more. Like, in the condition he
9:22was in, if he dehydrated, he would be
9:23ready to compete very well.
9:25Yeah, you remember when he went to do,
9:26I think it was pizza because he did
9:27that event,
9:27man, he was ready.
9:29If he really dehydrated, I think he
9:30would have won that championship, okay?
9:32Easy.
9:33So, I think he's been too hard, man.
9:35Too hard.
9:35And I think he needs to rest. I think
9:37he needs to take his family, travel,
9:39enjoy some time without training for a
9:40couple of weeks, let his joints recover
9:42. Imagine if he" These guys are going
9:45to compete too, cut everything out,
9:47like, live a quiet life resting,
9:49thinking about what they can and can't
9:51do, and then next year come back, and I
9:53, in his position, would prepare for
9:55the Olympia, because,
9:57let me just pause here to say this:
9:59Brandão has this opinion, okay? This
10:02opinion didn't sit well with the public
10:04. I even saw, I received this video
10:07which was actually a cut from the
10:09Sangue Marombeiro channel. People were
10:12sending it to me on Instagram, and, man
10:14, the crowd is heavily attacking
10:16Brandão, saying that Brandão only
10:17thinks about resting and all that, okay
10:19? And in a little while, when they
10:22finish their line of reasoning, I'll
10:24explain why I understand Brandão's
10:25line of reasoning, but I don't agree
10:27with it, okay? And I'll show in
10:29practice that there isn't one exact
10:31line of reasoning, right? And there are
10:33many things to do. I'll use several
10:35examples here, but just to make it
10:37clear to you that... "Okay, I'm
10:38recording this video because of that,
10:40okay? What made people send it to me
10:42was precisely Brandão's opinion that
10:44Ramon needs to rest and all that,
10:46mainly because a photo of Ramon at a
10:48club smoking vape came out. This idea
10:50of seeing that [ __ ], right? But anyway,
10:53it's
10:54the ultimate title, so it's the title
10:56he had, lost, and he has to work to
10:57recover that title. No, Arnold, he's
10:59already champion, period.
11:01He doesn't need to, he has nothing to
11:02prove to himself, no, nothing. He has
11:03to get the title back,
11:04no. And suddenly he runs the risk of
11:05competing in the Arnold and losing to
11:07those guys.
11:07Exactly. Because he won't have time to
11:09rest and do a good preparation.
11:11Imagine how much those guys would hurt
11:14him.
11:14Okay, let's pause for the first time so
11:16I can show you the first thing here,
11:18okay? Still on Rafael Brandão's
11:20opinion, and who's confirmed for the
11:222027 Arnold Classic Ohio is Nick Walker
11:25, okay? Nick Walker, who just..." To
11:27win Mr. Olympia. Uh, he commented that,
11:30man, it's like this, the day after the
11:32Olympia, we have the Olympia on Friday
11:33and Saturday, then on Sunday they have
11:35a conference which is kind of a
11:36conversation, this and that. And in the
11:39middle of that conversation, Nick
11:40Walker said: 'Man, I'm going to the
11:42Arnold Classic Ohio, I'm going because
11:44I need to change my family's reality, I
11:46need to pay off my parents' debts, and
11:48the Arnold prize is $ 750,000, right?
11:50So I want that, I won the Olympia, I'm
11:52catapulted and I'm going there to
11:53compete. '"" So, why am I bringing up
11:55this information? Because Nick Walker,
11:57just like Ramon, doesn't have much left
11:59to do, man. He can't gain muscle mass,
12:02he can't make major physique
12:04refinements. What he needs is momentum.
12:07And the momentum from preparation might
12:10bring details to his physique that only
12:12proper preparation delivers. So, Nick
12:15Walker said it clearly, like,' Man, I
12:17don't have anywhere else to put muscle
12:19mass, I don't need it, I need to refine
12:21my stage presence and my overall
12:23physique. 'So, thinking about that, I'm
12:25going to the Arnold Classic Ohio. And
12:27I'll tell you, man, does Ramon have
12:28anything to improve in his physique?
12:30Nothing, brother. The truth is, we
12:33can't let ourselves be fooled, because
12:35Ramon can't improve, man. He can't,
12:39dude. Ramon's physique is the same,
12:41with slight differences. It's been like
12:43that for years, and everyone warned us,
12:45well, not everyone, right? Because most
12:47of the time, ah, many people prefer to
12:49say what they don't know. "Ramon wants
12:51to hear things, not what's true, right?
12:55But many people who talk about
12:57bodybuilding online have been saying
12:59for some time now, especially to
13:01Ramon's audience, which is very young
13:03and sometimes very emotional, that with
13:05each passing year, progress becomes
13:08more difficult, because that's how it
13:10is at any stage of our lives. The
13:13better you are at something, the harder
13:16it becomes to get even better. In other
13:19words, in bodybuilding we say, the more
13:21trained you are, the less trainable you
13:24become, because you reach such a high
13:26level that making improvements becomes
13:29increasingly difficult. And Ramon, man,
13:31since 2021 he's made crazy progress
13:33that made you stop and think:" Damn,
13:35this guy isn't normal. "However, Ramon
13:37cannot do anything else within a
13:39context where a height-to-weight
13:41limitation exists, which simply means
13:43that he has absolutely nowhere else to
13:45go. Because for an athlete to improve,
13:48he needs a weight margin, and it's
13:49precisely this weight margin that will
13:51allow him to gain weight. A little more
13:53muscle, man, this and that. And Ramon
13:55definitely doesn't have it, just like
13:57Mike doesn't, just like Wesley Sepacol
13:59doesn't anymore, just like Ruffy Diesel
14:01doesn't have as much. So what's the
14:03point of these guys being inactive for
14:05so long? You understand? How many
14:08months do they need to rest? So that's
14:11the first point. Brandão is talking
14:13about fatigue, about evolving and all
14:15that, and about not going to the Arnold
14:17Classic thinking about that. However,
14:19the situation that Ramon finds himself
14:20in is one where, man, what is he
14:21actually going to do all year long?
14:23Because he can't let go of his diet,
14:25because if he gains too much weight it
14:27becomes difficult to make weight, okay?
14:29He can't make improvements because he
14:31doesn't have the margin to put on that
14:33weight, and I and nobody will convince
14:35me that within the same weight Ramon
14:37has, he's going to be able to take a
14:39transformed physique to the M20
14:40Olympics stage. And above all, Nil
14:43Davin's victory came about, and very
14:45clearly to the majority of people,
14:46precisely from his ability to overcome
14:48his own opponents while operating
14:50within his own structure. Nildav wasn't
14:53the most conditioned guy there. Nilda
14:55wasn't the most muscular guy. Nildav
14:57had a build from another planet, and
14:59Ramon isn't going to be able to make
15:01changes to his build to get close to
15:03Neil in that regard, okay? So Nick
15:05Walker's situation is similar to
15:08Brandão's and Ramon's. And Nick Walker
15:11has already decided:" Man, I need to
15:12compete more to refine myself more. So
15:14I'm going to the Arnold Classic Ohio. "
15:15Hey, are you saying that's the smartest
15:18strategy? Hold on. So, he should really
15:22rest, relax, enjoy life a bit, and next
15:24year come back and do a more relaxed
15:26preparation, tightening his diet. He
15:30should leave the strategy that worked
15:32for him, tightening it up in the last
15:33two weeks.
15:34It's better for him to suffer for two
15:35weeks.
15:36Pay attention to what Superman is going
15:37to say now, okay guys?
15:38Two months of balancing things out and
15:40it won't work, it won't work. It's the
15:42thing you mentioned, Renou, you're
15:43going to stop, because when you push
15:45yourself for two weeks, when you start
15:46carb-pumping, your body is asking for
15:48it. On the first day of carb-pumping,
15:49but on the second, man, the carbs start
15:51building, the muscle starts filling up,
15:52it keeps building.
15:54So, Rafa, but like, damn, we're in
15:56September, the Arnold is in March.
15:58I wouldn't do it.
15:59I wouldn't do it.
16:00No, but we're in October, right?
16:01Yeah, so end of September, right? We're
16:04in October, right? We're not in October
16:05. We're going into October. October,
16:07November, December, January, February,
16:10end of March. That is, today is the
16:1320th, right, which is until today.
16:15Today is the 28th. The Arnold will
16:18happen from the 23rd to the 27th of
16:20March, more or less. So there are six
16:23months until then, six months until the
16:25Arnold, okay? Let that be clear in your
16:27minds. There's
16:28no time, there isn't, in my view, from
16:29what I saw yesterday, he needs to rest.
16:31No, he rests for two days, he rests for
16:33a month, then he comes back already in
16:35rhythm. Man, he's the guy who finishes
16:37in 45 days. Easy, man.
16:38But it's a difference.
16:39But it's four and a half months.
16:41Yeah, but hey, like, he's under
16:43pressure all year, bro.
16:44He needs to rest his head more than you
16:46, but I think six months isn't enough,
16:48man.
16:48It's six, it's four and five.
16:50But what do you think he has to gain
16:51from Arnold, man?
16:53Is it what he has to lose if he doesn't
16:54win?
16:55It's like, look.
16:56No, if he loses, he has a lot to lose.
16:58If he wins,
16:58well, I think if you think like that,
16:59then don't compete anymore, man. Retire
17:00already. Exactly. If you think like
17:03that, what do you have to gain or lose,
17:04the guy will never compete again, man.
17:07Why would Mike compete anymore, right?
17:10Nil Davin will have to compete in some
17:12other show this year and throughout
17:14this season. For what? If you're afraid
17:16of losing a competition, it doesn't
17:18even make sense for you to want to
17:19compete. And if you don't want to
17:21compete, for most athletes, you won't
17:23even get your spot at the Olympics. So,
17:26look, Ramon is an Arnold champion and
17:28he's one of the best in the world, even
17:31though he had a terrible submission,
17:33man, Ramon's awful physique, in quotes,
17:35of course, was enough to keep him among
17:37the top three in the world. That
17:40already shows how good this guy is. The
17:42big problem is that he has nowhere to
17:44go, man. What will spending a year
17:47without competing, without doing
17:48anything, bring Ramon? Because a
17:50submission that wasn't executed
17:52correctly caused his loss at the
17:54Olympics. And we know that in two weeks
17:56, if Ramon finishes differently, he'll
17:58beat practically everyone competing in
18:00Classic Physique. Maybe he won't beat
18:03Nilda Davin, because it seems more like
18:05a structural issue than anything else,
18:08but a different submission from Ramon.
18:10Two weeks from now, Ramon is very
18:12difficult to beat, man. Maybe he could
18:15even surpass Nilda Davin, if he makes
18:17some kind of mistake in the final
18:20finish. So, what Ramon seems to lack
18:23isn't time, a year dedicated to
18:25training, no, because he did that this
18:28year. What Ramon seems to lack now is a
18:31bit more awareness when landing, and he
18:33needs to stop making those sudden
18:35changes right at the last minute. It
18:37means stopping the constant chase after
18:39judges, listening to conflicting advice
18:41from everyone, and arriving on stage
18:42like a madman, without having any idea
18:44of what you are supposed to do. It
18:46seems, man, that he lacks that...what's
18:49the word, dude? Uh, it's not stage
18:51presence, no. That cunning, it seems
18:53like he lacks that cunning, you know?
18:56That kind of cunning, taking an extra
18:59step, you know, figuring out where
19:01you're strongest and showing it to the
19:03judges, referencing your opponent in
19:05the sense that you're better than him
19:07in a certain group, like he did with
19:09Sebum, and another time, touching on
19:11Sebum here and there, all that stage
19:14cunning. That's what it seems like. And
19:16in my opinion, of course, because I
19:18know it's worth absolutely nothing.
19:20That might only come with even more
19:22stage presence, which is precisely part
19:24of the refinement that Nick Walker
19:25referred to." Brother, I don't have the
19:28mass to put on, I've already proven I
19:29can get there super conditioned. What's
19:31the point of me staying locked up for a
19:33year, man? "It doesn't make sense to me
19:36for Ramon. And it also doesn't make
19:38sense for him to be afraid of losing
19:40the Arnold Classic, because in the end
19:41the goal is the Olympia. If you don't
19:43win the Arnold Classic, obviously
19:44you'll hardly have the level to win the
19:46Olympia. So, this will be a clear
19:48signal to you that, well, it's over,
19:50huh? You need to change your life
19:52because Classic Physique isn't working
19:53anymore. And I am absolutely sure that
19:55Ramon does not want to keep losing all
19:56the time in Classic Physique. So maybe
19:59it would be more beneficial for him to
20:00go to the Arnold Classic, recognize his
20:02current level, and try to see if he
20:04still has what it takes to win Classic,
20:06because perhaps even rethinking the
20:08future of his career is precisely
20:09through competing, which will signal
20:11whether he needs to rethink things or
20:13not. So, guys, those were Igor's
20:15statements about what was said in
20:17Renato Cariani's live stream, but it
20:19doesn't end there. This complete video
20:21is over 30 minutes long, where Igor
20:23analyzes and gives a well-founded
20:24opinion on the whole thing. So, we
20:26highly recommend you watch the full
20:28video on his channel. The link will be
20:31in the description. Seriously, go check
20:33it out now. Before you leave, just
20:34leave your comment about everything
20:36that was said in this video below.
20:37That's all for now. Hugs to everyone
20:39and see you next time.

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