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- 0:00We're going to talk about emotions in a
- 0:01way that I think you've probably never
- 0:04heard them in your life described about.
- 0:06But if you've studied neuroscience and
- 0:08then like hypnosis and interrogation,
- 0:10then you might have thought about what
- 0:12we're going to talk about tonight.
- 0:13Something tells me that's a rare thing.
- 0:15The one thing I want to say about
- 0:17emotions is that they do not have an
- 0:19expiration date.
- 0:20>> [music]
- 0:21>> They will never in your life work
- 0:23themselves out. If you didn't process
- 0:25it, you're still paying for it. Like
- 0:28right now, tonight, while you're sitting
- 0:29here. So your nervous system is running
- 0:31an open tab, and that's kind of how I
- 0:34view a lot of these things. Just these
- 0:36tabs that are open.
- 0:38So every emotion that maybe you choked
- 0:40it down instead of feeling it,
- 0:43every bit of grief that you skipped
- 0:45over, every rage that you maybe smiled
- 0:47through, every time you said like I'm
- 0:49fine [music] and your chest was on fire.
- 0:52All of that goes somewhere. [music]
- 0:54It went somewhere. And wherever it went,
- 0:58it started occurring interest.
- 1:03So the thesis for tonight, every
- 1:05unprocessed emotion becomes a line of
- 1:09credit that your nervous system is
- 1:12silently paying interest on. This thing
- 1:15that we all call personality is usually
- 1:18just a collection of unpaid invoices
- 1:22from childhood. So the title of
- 1:24tonight's lecture is emotional debt.
- 1:28>> [music]
- 1:40>> So if you think like, oh I'm just an
- 1:42impatient person, that's not a
- 1:43temperament that you have. That's a bill
- 1:46you haven't paid. Your need to stay busy
- 1:48all the time isn't because you're
- 1:50ambitious. It's a payment you're making
- 1:52on something. And maybe you can't sit in
- 1:54silence.
- 1:55And we think, oh that's just a
- 1:57preference that I have. That's an
- 1:58avoidance of a creditor somewhere.
- 2:00[music]
- 2:01But let me give you the biology of this
- 2:03first so it doesn't sound like a yoga
- 2:05retreat. Let's go deeper into this
- 2:07stuff. When something emotionally
- 2:09significant happens in your life,
- 2:12and and your your system doesn't get to
- 2:15complete that response,
- 2:18the charge of that emotion doesn't
- 2:20disappear or fade off. It gets stored
- 2:22[music] somewhere.
- 2:25And specifically, it stays lodged in a
- 2:28lot of these things called subcortical
- 2:31structures.
- 2:32This is the amygdala, the insula, the
- 2:35brainstem, the body itself. The body is
- 2:38subcortical if you just take a look at
- 2:40anatomy.
- 2:41But they're not stored as memory. That's
- 2:43the one big mistake I think a lot of
- 2:45people make. They're not stored as
- 2:47memory. They're stored as a state.
- 2:50>> [music]
- 2:51>> This is the part that people miss.
- 2:53That when somebody has trauma, they're
- 2:55not remembering something. They're not
- 2:57remembering some unprocessed emotion.
- 2:59This is re-entering them. And that's a
- 3:02huge difference, remembering versus
- 3:03re-entering. That's when you can be when
- 3:05you can be 45 years old, sitting in a
- 3:08boardroom meeting somewhere, somebody
- 3:10raises their voice just a little bit,
- 3:12and then you're not 45 anymore. You're
- 3:14seven, and you don't know why your hands
- 3:17are shaking.
- 3:19This not like I got triggered in the way
- 3:22that people about on TikTok.
- 3:24It's your nervous system replaying an
- 3:26incomplete response because it never got
- 3:29to finish.
- 3:34So here's how it actually works. Here's
- 3:35the real biology of this
- 3:38in a way that I've never in my life seen
- 3:40anyone explain any of this stuff, and I
- 3:41wish I had 20 years ago. So when a
- 3:44threat or some kind of emotional event
- 3:47happens, our autonomic nervous system
- 3:50mobilizes this response. You've heard
- 3:53the list before. It's fight and flight
- 3:55and freeze and fawn, friend, whatever
- 3:58you want to call it. If the response
- 3:59completes, if you fight and then you
- 4:02win, if you run and you escape, if you
- 4:05cry and somebody rescues you [music] or
- 4:08holds you,
- 4:09the charge dissipates.
- 4:12So the system goes back to baseline. It
- 4:13files the event as boom, that's been
- 4:16resolved. Done. But if the response gets
- 4:19interrupted, so if you can't fight
- 4:22because you're a child, if you can't run
- 4:24because it's your home and that's your
- 4:27spouse that's doing the traumatizing. If
- 4:29you can't cry because crying gets
- 4:32punished in in your house, the
- 4:34mobilization doesn't ever
- 4:36>> [music]
- 4:36>> complete. So in the energy that was that
- 4:39was mobilized, like all these resources
- 4:41that got spun up, they have to go
- 4:43somewhere.
- 4:44So it gets locked into the body.
- 4:47Maybe it's a bunch of tight shoulders or
- 4:49chronic jaw pain or stomach problems
- 4:52that you've been to 50 doctors to try to
- 4:54figure out, and nobody knows what's
- 4:56going on with your stomach. So it's just
- 4:59kind of this little baseline hum
- 5:02of anxiety that's been there so long
- 5:05that you think it's how you are. We call
- 5:08it personality when it's just storage.
- 5:10There's storage happening.
- 5:12There's this guy named Peter Levine. He
- 5:15created this thing called somatic
- 5:16experiencing, and it showed this decades
- 5:19ago. And this other guy, his name is
- 5:21Bessel van der Kolk.
- 5:23He did a bunch of actual research
- 5:26[music]
- 5:27that confirmed a lot of this stuff. So
- 5:30the brain's primary number one job is
- 5:33predicting what's going to happen next.
- 5:35So if an emotional event just goes
- 5:37throughout my life and it's unresolved,
- 5:40the brain starts scanning You think it's
- 5:42doing that to heal? No. It's doing that
- 5:44to prevent. That's it's a prevention
- 5:46mechanism. So it builds this
- 5:48architecture in your brain to avoid some
- 5:51things. Don't get close to people like
- 5:54that. Don't say things like that. Don't
- 5:57feel things like that. Don't be in a
- 5:58room like that. [music] And over time,
- 6:02those micro-avoidances become your
- 6:04entire life.
- 6:06So we say like, oh you need to step out
- 6:08of your comfort zone. You don't have a
- 6:09comfort zone. What you call a comfort
- 6:12zone is this perimeter around your
- 6:14nervous system that's built around the
- 6:16things that it couldn't finish
- 6:17processing.
- 6:19That's it.
- 6:20That's your comfort zone. So and what
- 6:22happens to debt over time?
- 6:24It compounds. So now I have compounding
- 6:27debt.
- 6:28And what we're looking at, this isn't a
- 6:30metaphor anymore. This is the math that
- 6:32your body does. This is real. And four
- 6:34things happen neurologically when
- 6:36emotional debt accumulates. I promised
- 6:38you biology, here it is.
- 6:41Number one, you have this thing called
- 6:43the amygdala. This is a big emotion
- 6:45center, but it becomes hypersensitized.
- 6:48If I have several events happen, the
- 6:51threshold for activation for the next
- 6:53event can trigger my amygdala even
- 6:56easier the next time. Especially if it's
- 6:58within like 90 days. So it takes less
- 7:00and less over time to set you off.
- 7:03So you used to be able to to handle
- 7:05criticism, and now just a little
- 7:07somebody's tone is a little bit off and
- 7:09it ruins your day. And you think to
- 7:11yourself like, well man, I'm getting
- 7:12weaker.
- 7:14That's not weakness.
- 7:15You're accumulating interest. That's all
- 7:17that's happening.
- 7:19So the second thing that happens is
- 7:21prefrontal cortex starts losing ground.
- 7:25It starts losing its ability to dictate
- 7:26what's going on, to think. This is our
- 7:29executive function, our planning,
- 7:30reasoning, impulse control, perspective.
- 7:34And you see chronic emotional activation
- 7:37literally reduces prefrontal cortex
- 7:39engagement. So the amygdala starts
- 7:41running more and more of the show. So
- 7:44you become more reactive, less
- 7:47reflective,
- 7:49more impulsive,
- 7:50and less patient. You're paying compound
- 7:53interest on a debt that you just [music]
- 7:55didn't know you had.
- 7:56So the third piece, this is something
- 7:58called the HPA axis. This thing stays
- 8:01activated. So HPA stands for
- 8:03hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal
- 8:06axis. Your stress response system is
- 8:09what this thing basically is. So when
- 8:11emotional debt accumulates, [music]
- 8:13cortisol stays elevated. And what you're
- 8:15thinking might be crisis, it's not a
- 8:17crisis way. It's in a background hum
- 8:20kind of way. So chronically elevated
- 8:22cortisol suppresses what? The first
- 8:25thing that it shuts off. Immune system
- 8:27function. Second thing is your the
- 8:30architecture of your sleep, the quality
- 8:31of your sleep. The third thing is your
- 8:33ability to consolidate memories. Fourth
- 8:36is it increases what's called visceral
- 8:39fat storage, which automatically, as a
- 8:42cascade, accelerates something that
- 8:45scientists call cellular aging. It's a
- 8:47fun word for dying. That's your body
- 8:50paying the bill. When you have emotional
- 8:52debt, it doesn't just make you feel like
- 8:54it ages you. It makes you sick, and it
- 8:57kills you probably, I would say, at the
- 9:00same speed as cigarettes.
- 9:02And there's the fourth thing that
- 9:03happens here. This debt doesn't act like
- 9:06a financial debt.
- 9:07>> [music]
- 9:07>> Now the debt starts turning into a
- 9:09recruiting agent. Unprocessed emotions
- 9:12don't stay isolated. They start pulling
- 9:15other systems into the payment plan.
- 9:19They're going to get co-signers on the
- 9:21loans. They need more payment.
- 9:24So your relationships become
- 9:28debt servicing arrangements.
- 9:31Your career becomes a distraction
- 9:34strategy.
- 9:35And what about all the habits that you
- 9:36have? They're interest [music] payments.
- 9:39The collateral?
- 9:41It's your identity.
- 9:42So everything starts organizing around
- 9:45the debt. And from the outside,
- 9:48and even in the mirror,
- 9:49it just looks like, oh that's me. That's
- 9:51just how that person is. That's just
- 9:53their personality. That is a nervous
- 9:56system drowning in a load of compound
- 9:58interest and building an entire life
- 10:00around staying one just one payment
- 10:04ahead.
- 10:08Now we get into servicing [music] the
- 10:10debt. How do we service the debt?
- 10:14So if emotional debt is a compounding
- 10:16thing, the system needs a way to manage
- 10:20all these payments. So it can't process
- 10:23the original emotions, right? That
- 10:25window kind of closed. Debt servicing
- 10:28never reduces what you owe. It just
- 10:31keeps you from defaulting today. This is
- 10:34the most common payment plan on earth is
- 10:38numbing some kind of anesthetic for for
- 10:41what's going on in my life. Alcohol,
- 10:43[music] weed, scrolling, pull
- 10:47food, shopping, binge-watching TV shows.
- 10:51If you're very very honest, we're not
- 10:53doing those things cuz we really deeply
- 10:55enjoy them. We do it because feeling
- 10:58nothing is cheaper than feeling
- 11:01everything that we owe, than thinking
- 11:03about the debt. And the thing about
- 11:05numbing, it works.
- 11:08It works, and that's why it's so hard to
- 11:11stop.
- 11:13And everybody thinks man, I wish I had
- 11:15some more discipline in my life, then
- 11:17I'd be able to stop the
- 11:19but be able to stop smoking crack. It's
- 11:21not discipline. It's a successful
- 11:24short-term debt management strategy. The
- 11:27debt is patient like every debtor,
- 11:29right? Is patient. They wait for the
- 11:32vacation that you can't enjoy, the
- 11:34retirement that you will never sit still
- 11:37in
- 11:37or feel any kind of purpose in.
- 11:40The weekend that's going to fill you
- 11:42with absolute dread instead of the rest
- 11:45that it's supposed to fill you with.
- 11:47That's the bill.
- 11:49The next most popular thing is
- 11:51performing.
- 11:53And these people become the funniest
- 11:55person in the room, the most charming,
- 11:57the most helpful, the caretaker, the
- 12:00most agreeable, the most fine. So when
- 12:04we see a lot of performance, that's
- 12:05servicing a debt. And I want you to view
- 12:07this as both like this is how you can
- 12:08change your own life, but this is also
- 12:10how you can profile people that you
- 12:12speak to every day. Everyone's servicing
- 12:14debt.
- 12:15Loneliness.
- 12:17Massive like 27% APR loneliness. And
- 12:21it's not the loneliness where nobody's
- 12:23near me, nobody's around me. I'm at home
- 12:25with my cats and This is a time where
- 12:28everyone's around you and no one knows
- 12:31you. Not one person truly knows who you
- 12:35are. That's the most expensive
- 12:37loneliness that you could ever
- 12:38experience. So they think that that edge
- 12:40is like some anxiety from their life.
- 12:42The edge is what? Now that you know,
- 12:45it's debt.
- 12:48The substance is the only payment method
- 12:51that they found that works fast enough
- 12:53to keep them functional. So
- 12:54>> [music]
- 12:55>> self-medicating is also about speed.
- 12:57Speed to normal. If you take the
- 12:59substance away without addressing the
- 13:01debt, you're not going to get somebody
- 13:03that's like recovering or anything
- 13:04[music] like that. You get a person
- 13:06drowning that has nothing to hold on to.
- 13:09Why is like 90%
- 13:11of addiction treatment fail?
- 13:13It confiscates [music] the payment
- 13:15method without acknowledging the debt.
- 13:20And then there's the relational version
- 13:22of debt servicing that everybody
- 13:23mistakes for love. The person who can't
- 13:26stop giving in relationships, they
- 13:28overfunction. I'm going to anticipate
- 13:30every single need that I possibly can.
- 13:32They're going to sacrifice, they bend
- 13:33over backwards, and they're like, this
- 13:35what I'm doing right now, that's love.
- 13:38That's just debt servicing. But they're
- 13:40thinking like if I'm really needed by
- 13:42somebody, if I can make myself so
- 13:45necessary, you're not attracting into
- 13:48your life what you want. You're
- 13:50attracting what your nervous system
- 13:51recognizes, [music]
- 13:53whatever it grew up with. If love came
- 13:55with anxiety, you're going to feel most
- 13:57alive around people who make you
- 14:00anxious. If being like close to another
- 14:03human came [music] with control, then
- 14:06you're going to feel safe with people
- 14:08who dominate you. If you were 8 years
- 14:11old and love or affection or
- 14:13appreciation came with [music]
- 14:14conditions,
- 14:16you're going to grow up feeling that the
- 14:18only love that's real is the kind that
- 14:21you have to earn. You're going to walk
- 14:22past the person who offers you peace.
- 14:27Trauma is an event, an event [music]
- 14:31that breaks through my system's capacity
- 14:33to cope with it and finalize a little
- 14:35loop. That's all it is. You can point to
- 14:39it. You can name it. Clinicians can give
- 14:41it a ICD-10 code or a DSM code from the
- 14:46psych manual.
- 14:48Emotional debt is an accumulation, is
- 14:51not an event. A thousand probably small
- 14:54moments where something was felt and not
- 14:58finished. You needed to be angry or you
- 15:01needed to kind of vent and you learned
- 15:02it wasn't safe.
- 15:06You were six and you had to grieve
- 15:08something and somebody forced you to
- 15:09[music] be strong, to look strong. Times
- 15:12you needed to be a child and your
- 15:14parents made you be [music] the adult.
- 15:16They ruin your life worse than PTSD
- 15:19and none of them are trauma in [music] a
- 15:21clinical sense, but all of them created
- 15:23debt.
- 15:25And I'm not trying to blame your parents
- 15:26for anything. They probably did their
- 15:27best [music] as most of ours did. Why
- 15:30did your parents do this to you? Cuz
- 15:32they were in debt also, big time.
- 15:34[music] They can't give you something
- 15:36that they never got. So they passed the
- 15:39balance of their debt forward
- 15:41>> [music]
- 15:41>> without knowing it. And now all that's
- 15:43in your account. Financial systems have
- 15:45this
- 15:46There's a point where the payments can
- 15:48no longer cover the interest and the
- 15:50structure collapses, right? That's
- 15:52bankruptcy.
- 15:53So emotional systems have the exact same
- 15:55threshold
- 15:57and when you hit it, the results are
- 15:59very predictable.
- 16:01You have a breakdown, you have a a
- 16:03health crisis, your identity collapses.
- 16:05Sometimes all three of these things
- 16:06happen at one time.
- 16:11Everything that works to resolve
- 16:13emotional debt, therapy, somatic work,
- 16:18TRE, trauma releasing exercises,
- 16:20psychedelics, breath work, [music]
- 16:22meditation, maybe just one of those
- 16:24seminars where you like stare people in
- 16:26the eye and never speak to them and it's
- 16:27like [music] some a little culty, they
- 16:29all share one active ingredient. It's
- 16:32perspective.
- 16:35Not perspective like you have to look on
- 16:37the bright side of things. And I also
- 16:39don't mean it's perspective like other
- 16:42people have it worse than you. That's
- 16:44not perspective by the way. That's
- 16:46comparison and contrast wearing like a
- 16:48little self-help costume. I'm talking
- 16:51about perspective as a mechanical shift
- 16:54in vantage point. Meditation, DMT,
- 16:58mushrooms, LSD, MDMA, perspective shift.
- 17:01Cognitive behavioral therapy, really
- 17:03really long long time, but at the end of
- 17:06it there's some perspective shift that
- 17:08happens.
- 17:09But that single shift, the shift in
- 17:11perspective is the how of how emotional
- 17:15debt gets processed. And I will go out
- 17:17on a limb and say that it's every time
- 17:20and there is no exception. There is zero
- 17:23exception to this.
- 17:25Think about what happens in therapy when
- 17:27it actually works. It's not the advice.
- 17:30Even therapists will tell you this. It's
- 17:33not the diagnosis that they get. It's a
- 17:35moment [music] where you say something
- 17:37out loud and hear it from outside of
- 17:39yourself for the first time. You've been
- 17:42living inside of a story for maybe 30
- 17:44years and and suddenly you're looking at
- 17:46the story instead of from inside of it.
- 17:49From above.
- 17:51Your debt actively prevents you from
- 17:55gaining the one thing that could resolve
- 17:58it. The avoidance, numbing, busyness,
- 18:01whatever you want to call it,
- 18:03caretaking, none of it should is random.
- 18:05It's a defense mechanism against what?
- 18:08Perspective.
- 18:13Telling somebody in a massive emotional
- 18:15debt to just feel your feelings. Imagine
- 18:18one of your friends comes to you and it
- 18:20calls you and it's like, hey dude, I
- 18:21just found out I'm $400,000 in debt. And
- 18:24your advice to your friend is, well,
- 18:26just start saving. Then you're a
- 18:28right? It's technically correct and
- 18:30absolutely useless. So what actually
- 18:33works here is a series of perspective
- 18:35shifts.
- 18:39Step one is to see the payments. From
- 18:42unconscious to conscious, most people
- 18:44that are in emotional debt, they don't
- 18:46know they're in debt. They think they're
- 18:47just tired or they're stressed or I'm
- 18:49getting older or that's how life is. The
- 18:52first move is learning to see the
- 18:54pattern. If you react
- 18:55disproportionately, that's [music] debt.
- 18:57That's the first big big thing that you
- 19:00need to become aware of. When you avoid
- 19:03specific feelings with predictable
- 19:05behaviors, that's debt. Every time. If
- 19:09rest feels dangerous, that's debt. When
- 19:12you can't be alone in silence without
- 19:14reaching for something, that's debt.
- 19:16When your body has like weird tension in
- 19:18it and like weird where you feel like
- 19:21all the time like you've got to go get a
- 19:23massage, but that has no physical
- 19:25explanation, that's debt. So you don't
- 19:27have to know the original event. That's
- 19:29the good news here. You don't you don't
- 19:31even have to know what the hell
- 19:32happened. You could have amnesia for
- 19:33your whole childhood, you'd still be
- 19:35fine. You only have to see the payments
- 19:37that you're making. That's the first
- 19:39shift, from inside the pattern to
- 19:41slightly above it, even if it's an inch
- 19:44above it.
- 19:47The second step is to name your debt
- 19:49servicing behavior. This is the second
- 19:52shift. so from embedded to observing.
- 19:54So, everybody has a go-to. So, what is
- 19:56your debt servicing behavior?
- 19:59Numming, anesthetic, overworking,
- 20:03performing, controlling, helping,
- 20:06self-medicating, withdrawing,
- 20:09whatever. Don't judge it and don't try
- 20:11to stop it. Even more good news, you
- 20:13don't have to give a about
- 20:14self-you. You just name it because
- 20:17naming it creates distance between you
- 20:20and the behavior. This is a big thing
- 20:22for your brain. And like coming up with
- 20:24a name in your mind and saying, "Oh,
- 20:25yeah, I got it now." It's different than
- 20:27like writing it down, printing it out,
- 20:29putting it somewhere where you're going
- 20:30to see it.
- 20:31Distance is where all choice lives and I
- 20:34want you to remember that. And that's
- 20:35just when I talk about sciops, if you
- 20:37sum sciops up in like three or four
- 20:40words, it would be closing distance.
- 20:43If I close distance, I eliminate choice.
- 20:45I just make you live inside of the
- 20:47thing.
- 20:48Then you don't know the difference.
- 20:50So, the moment that you see all of this
- 20:51and that your your behavior isn't just
- 20:53who you are, then the thing starts to
- 20:56kind of stutter a little bit and it's
- 20:57not a stop, it's a stutter. You're going
- 20:59to start experiencing little stutters
- 21:01cuz you're going to be hyper-aware of
- 21:03all your debt servicing behaviors. So,
- 21:05that's perspective really kind of doing
- 21:07its work. You move the vantage point 1
- 21:09more inch and the whole system flinched
- 21:12a little bit. That's really good.
- 21:18>> [music]
- 21:19>> So, step three
- 21:20is let your body finish what it started.
- 21:23So, all the emotions stored in your body
- 21:25are
- 21:26maybe some kind of incomplete motor
- 21:28responses, right? You never got to
- 21:29fight, you got to run away and escape.
- 21:31The scream that kind of maybe stayed in
- 21:33your throat. The collapse [music]
- 21:35uh you never got to surrender to. You
- 21:37think those are memories. Hopefully by
- 21:39now you know better. Those are not
- 21:41memories. Those are unfinished moments,
- 21:44unfinished movements.
- 21:47And the body has to finish a lot of
- 21:48those.
- 21:49And I don't mean intellectually,
- 21:52I mean physically.
- 21:53This is where we have shaking and
- 21:55trembling and crying without a story
- 21:58attached to it. I would highly recommend
- 22:01you look into these neurogenic tremors
- 22:03[music] or there's like 90 brand names
- 22:06for neurogenic tremors now even though
- 22:07it's just a natural response of your
- 22:09body. Uh TRE is the most common brand
- 22:12name. It's like branding the word
- 22:14migraine. Maybe it's rage you get you
- 22:17get out of your body through movement.
- 22:19Letting the body do what it was never
- 22:21allowed to do. But you can't do this
- 22:24from inside the activation.
- 22:27That's just re-traumatization.
- 22:30You do it from this shifted vantage
- 22:32point.
- 22:33You never do it from inside the system.
- 22:36It's like a fish swimming faster and
- 22:38faster to try to not be wet anymore. You
- 22:41can't do it from inside the system, you
- 22:42have to be out first.
- 22:44So, present enough to feel it,
- 22:46aware enough to be able to watch it move
- 22:49through your body. That's the window of
- 22:50tolerance right there. It's a
- 22:52perspective.
- 22:55Close enough to feel,
- 22:56far enough to witness the thing. And
- 22:59this is where you have somatic work.
- 23:01There's all kinds of uh people that do
- 23:03all of this. Structured breathwork,
- 23:05vagal toning, these extended exhale
- 23:08protocols. Cold exposure is one of the
- 23:11best in the world, cold exposure. And I
- 23:14don't think these are random like
- 23:16wellness trends. Our ancestors have been
- 23:18doing this for like 10, 15,000
- 23:20years. They're the tools that expand the
- 23:23window.
- 23:24This is what our ancestors did. Our
- 23:25brains haven't changed in 200,000 years
- 23:28and we have so much narcissism in our
- 23:30culture that we think we're going to
- 23:32invent a medication and outsmart these
- 23:35ancestors who built like pyramids and
- 23:37like figured out reality. They knew what
- 23:39they were doing.
- 23:40>> [music]
- 23:41>> And a lot of this comes natural to us
- 23:42but we suppress it. So, we want to teach
- 23:45the nervous system that activation
- 23:48doesn't have to mean emergency.
- 23:50And I promise you, you will not ever
- 23:52think your way out of debt.
- 23:55You have my word.
- 23:56It's never going to happen. You have to
- 23:58feel your way out. You have to always
- 24:01feel your way out of debt from a vantage
- 24:03point where feeling
- 24:05isn't drowning, which is why we've got
- 24:07to get out first.
- 24:11Step four
- 24:13is stop taking on new debt.
- 24:17That's a big step.
- 24:18>> [music]
- 24:18>> And this has to be a daily perspective
- 24:21practice.
- 24:22Every time you you are choking something
- 24:25down instead of feeling it and you say,
- 24:26"I'm fine." when you're not, you're
- 24:28overriding your your body's signals
- 24:31because you've got to do.
- 24:33>> [music]
- 24:33>> You're borrowing again. You're back
- 24:36getting another loan out.
- 24:38You're adding to the balance. So, just
- 24:39start with one thing.
- 24:41When you feel something, just stop and
- 24:44give it 10 seconds of your time. Just 10
- 24:47seconds.
- 24:49And if you realize it later,
- 24:51take the 10 seconds right then whenever
- 24:53you you realize it. You don't have to
- 24:55process all that stuff fully. You don't
- 24:57have to understand it. You don't have to
- 24:59And the biggest thing, you don't have to
- 25:00intellectualize sh
- 25:02You just have to let that stuff land. 10
- 25:05seconds, [music] that's all it is.
- 25:07So, what you're doing in those 10
- 25:08seconds is you're shifting your
- 25:09perspective around in real time instead
- 25:12of being the person who might react, you
- 25:15become the person who just notices. You
- 25:17can still react however you want. You
- 25:19just have to notice.
- 25:21That's it.
- 25:22And if your nervous system knows that
- 25:25maybe feelings are allowed to arrive, it
- 25:28stops storing them.
- 25:30I'm going to say that again.
- 25:31If your nervous system knows that
- 25:33feelings are allowed to come in and
- 25:36fully be present, it's going to stop
- 25:38holding on to them. It's just like how
- 25:40your body deals with that.
- 25:45Step five is get a witness. This is the
- 25:49deepest perspective shift of all.
- 25:51I would say this is like from isolation
- 25:53to being seen.
- 25:56A lot of emotional debt was
- 25:58probably 99% [music] of your emotional
- 26:01debt was created in isolation.
- 26:03Even if there were people around you,
- 26:05you were mentally isolated. You're alone
- 26:07with something [music] that was too big
- 26:09for you. A big part of what the system
- 26:12is still holding on to
- 26:14uh isn't just a bunch of emotion, it's
- 26:16the aloneness.
- 26:18Aloneness by itself is debt.
- 26:22The feeling of loneliness especially in
- 26:23[music] childhood is debt. So, the
- 26:25discharge process
- 26:28very often needs a witness. And here's
- 26:32here's my caveat to this. And maybe I'm
- 26:34wrong about this. It's not a person to
- 26:36fix anything,
- 26:37it's not an an advice giver,
- 26:41it's not somebody who's going to like
- 26:42reframe all of your pain into a lesson.
- 26:46I mean a witness.
- 26:48Someone who can sit with you while
- 26:50something is like moving through your
- 26:52body and not not try to make it stop.
- 26:57When you're sobbing, you have to tell
- 26:58this person, "If you
- 27:00care about me at all,
- 27:02you will ignore me like a psychopath
- 27:04during this process.
- 27:06Your job is to keep you safe and that's
- 27:07all. The other person's presence
- 27:10gives you a perspective
- 27:13that you probably can't [music] create
- 27:15by yourself. Something happens when
- 27:18there's people around us.
- 27:19When somebody's holding space for
- 27:21[music] you, it like actually holding
- 27:23the space without flinching and without
- 27:27fixing [music]
- 27:28anything, they become like a little
- 27:29mirror in my opinion. In that mirror,
- 27:32you can probably finally [music] see
- 27:34what's kind of been moving through you
- 27:36without being consumed by it. And it's
- 27:38the thing that most people needed at age
- 27:41five
- 27:43and didn't get. So, getting it now at
- 27:45age 30 or 40 or 50 or 60, it's not going
- 27:48to undo what happened, but it completes
- 27:51something
- 27:53that's been waiting to finish probably
- 27:55for a very long time.
- 27:59You didn't choose [music] your debt.
- 28:03Nobody opens a line of
- 28:05emotional credit on purpose.
- 28:08It was opened for you
- 28:11by circumstances that you didn't
- 28:13control.
- 28:14It was at an age when you couldn't
- 28:16understand what was happening
- 28:18and you've been making payments ever
- 28:20[music] since.
- 28:21All the little tight smiles, all the I'm
- 28:24good, the sleepless nights maybe, the
- 28:26relationship that collapsed under the
- 28:29weight of some random sh and they still
- 28:31don't know why that relationship
- 28:33collapsed. That's a system doing its
- 28:35best with what it was given. So, I
- 28:37didn't want to make tonight about fixing
- 28:39anything. I just want to make it about
- 28:41shifting the vantage [music] point,
- 28:43shifting perspective because I don't
- 28:46want you to also think that debt is the
- 28:48enemy.
- 28:49Your fixed position inside of the debt
- 28:51is the enemy. You move this
- 28:54vantage point and the debt starts to
- 28:56move with it. And you're going to kind
- 28:57of go from like, "Why am I messed
- 28:59[music] up? What's wrong with me?" to
- 29:02"What do I owe?" And then you go to
- 29:04like, "How do I start paying it back?"
- 29:07That is perspective shifting.
- 29:09And it's the beginning
- 29:11of
- 29:12>> [music]
- 29:12>> everything. Authorities are reporting a
- 29:14citywide manhunt underway.
- 29:17>> [music]
- 29:27[music]
- 29:30>> The world is breathing.
- 29:31>> [music]
- 29:34>> A fragile sound.
- 29:36>> [music]
- 29:38>> No echoes here.
- 29:42>> [music]
- 29:43>> On sacred ground.
- 29:47A quiet pulse.
- 29:49a steady [music] beat,
- 29:51the truth we feel in simple heat.
- 29:55>> [music]
- 29:56>> Barefoot steps
- 29:58on hallowed ground,
- 30:00a sacred rhythm we have found. [music]
- 30:11>> [music]
- 30:19[music]
- 30:22>> The world just breathes, and I can feel
- 30:26it.
- 30:26>> [music]
- 30:26>> A perfect [singing]
- 30:28promise can't conceal it. The shadows
- 30:32leaning
- 30:33on [singing] the light,
- 30:35>> [music]
- 30:35>> another beautiful, quiet night.
- 30:42>> [music]
- 30:49[music]
- 30:55[music]
- 30:57>> The past is gone,
- 30:59but we remain, [singing]
- 31:02washing over
- 31:03>> [music]
- 31:04>> all the pain.
- 31:06A simple truth,
- 31:08a feeling [music] pure,
- 31:10a soft connection
- 31:12to endure.
- 31:19>> [music]
- 31:25[music]
- 31:32>> The world just breathes, [music]
- 31:34and I can [singing] feel it. A perfect
- 31:37promise can't conceal it. The shadows
- 31:42leaning [singing]
- 31:43on the light,
- 31:45another beautiful, quiet night.
- 31:57>> [music]
- 32:11[music]
- 32:22[music]
- 32:26>> This quiet night,
- 32:28>> [music]
- 32:31>> what makes it right?
- 32:35>> [music]
- 32:39>> And the world just breathes. [music]
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