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Quali nuovi psicofarmaci dobbiamo aspettarci nel futuro — Transcript

by Dott. Valerio Rosso · 1,971 words · 340 segments · language en · Watch on YouTube

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  1. 0:00So, if you ask someone on the street
  2. 0:02how an antidepressant works, what’s
  3. 0:04the first word that’s going to come
  4. 0:06out? Serotonin. Nine times out of 10,
  5. 0:10they’ll answer with serotonin—it
  6. 0:12increases serotonin, it rebalances it,
  7. 0:14or if they’re really well-informed,
  8. 0:16they'll mention reuptake inhibition,
  9. 0:18all that stuff. At most, someone might
  10. 0:22add the word dopamine, and, well, if
  11. 0:24someone is really, really prepared,
  12. 0:26you’ll hear the word norepinephrine.
  13. 0:30Well, for decades, psychopharmacology
  14. 0:32has revolved almost entirely around
  15. 0:35these three names: serotonin, dopamine,
  16. 0:37agonists, antagonists, and, obviously,
  17. 0:40norepinephrine. And it’s precisely
  18. 0:44for this reason, for this reductionism
  19. 0:46we’ve heard for so many years, that
  20. 0:48today I want to talk about the drugs
  21. 0:51that will likely arrive, because the
  22. 0:53most interesting novelty is that we are
  23. 0:55finally stepping out of that enclosure
  24. 0:58based on these three words: serotonin,
  25. 1:00dopamine, norepinephrine. We are, at
  26. 1:03the very least, trying to step out of
  27. 1:05that enclosure. Let’s start with
  28. 1:07something that almost nobody mentions,
  29. 1:09which is arguably the most important
  30. 1:11thing to know. Serotonin, dopamine, and
  31. 1:14norepinephrine are very important
  32. 1:15neurotransmitters, but the neurons that
  33. 1:17produce them are relatively few, right?
  34. 1:20They are gathered in small nuclei in
  35. 1:23the brainstem and midbrain, which then
  36. 1:25project throughout the entire brain,
  37. 1:28certainly, but they are not the most
  38. 1:30abundant neurotransmitters; they are
  39. 1:33modulators, let’s say, like volume
  40. 1:35knobs on my instruments. The real
  41. 1:40traffic, the majority of
  42. 1:41neurotransmitters—the foundation—
  43. 1:43passes through somewhere else entirely;
  44. 1:46for example, it passes through
  45. 1:48glutamate, which is the main excitatory
  46. 1:50neurotransmitter of the central nervous
  47. 1:52system. The vast majority of neurons in
  48. 1:56the cortex communicate using glutamate
  49. 1:59and its, let's call it, inhibitory
  50. 2:01counterbalance: GABA. Yeah, GABA. If
  51. 2:05the brain were a city, glutamate and
  52. 2:07GABA would run the show. Glutamate
  53. 2:10would be the accelerator and GABA would
  54. 2:12be the brake for almost every car on
  55. 2:15the road. I mean, let’s use an
  56. 2:17example—I don’t know what kind of
  57. 2:18example I’m giving you, but one
  58. 2:19pushes, and the other brakes. Yet, for
  59. 2:21decades, it’s been talked about very
  60. 2:23little, both inside and outside of
  61. 2:25conferences. In reality, there are so
  62. 2:27many people out there who don't have a
  63. 2:28clear idea about GABA and glutamate.
  64. 2:31Then there is more, though; there is
  65. 2:33also acetylcholine. Acetylcholine,
  66. 2:36which, mind you, is not the most
  67. 2:38abundant in the brain—it’s
  68. 2:40certainly not like glutamate or GABA—
  69. 2:41but it was the first neurotransmitter
  70. 2:43ever discovered, and it’s the one
  71. 2:45that, you know, makes muscles contract,
  72. 2:47right? It regulates a good portion of
  73. 2:51the autonomic nervous system, and in
  74. 2:53the brain, it plays a key role in
  75. 2:54attention, memory, and, in turn, the
  76. 2:56regulation of dopaminergic activity.
  77. 2:59Well, an old lady, one might say, of
  78. 3:02neurochemistry, but a lady who is
  79. 3:03coming back into fashion: acetylcholine
  80. 3:06. And here we come to the question
  81. 3:08after this introduction. An important
  82. 3:09question. Are there psychotropic drugs
  83. 3:12that work on these systems—obviously
  84. 3:15I cannot say new because they are not
  85. 3:17—on these systems that have been
  86. 3:19largely overlooked by
  87. 3:21psychopharmacology until now? Yes, yes,
  88. 3:24absolutely yes. Some are already here,
  89. 3:26and many others will arrive. A small
  90. 3:28aside: if you are interested in
  91. 3:30psychopharmacology, please follow my
  92. 3:32project, www.psfarmacologia.it. And on
  93. 3:37Instagram, follow the corresponding
  94. 3:40page, psicofarmacologia.it. Search for
  95. 3:43"psicofarmacologia" on Instagram, you
  96. 3:44will find everything. Likewise, if you
  97. 3:47search for "psicofarmacologia" on
  98. 3:49Google, you will see that the first
  99. 3:50result is psicofarmacologia.it, which
  100. 3:52is my project. A site that aspires to
  101. 3:55be a reference for medical students,
  102. 3:58residents, and perhaps even some, uh,
  103. 4:00doctors who are not, how should I put
  104. 4:03it, fully specialized in psychiatry or
  105. 4:06neurology; but I guarantee you it is
  106. 4:08very well done. It contains all the
  107. 4:12theory and practice a healthcare
  108. 4:14professional needs to truly understand
  109. 4:16how psychotropic drugs work, because
  110. 4:19understanding how they work is the
  111. 4:21prerequisite. To use them well. Uh,
  112. 4:25that is my motto, the motto of
  113. 4:26psicofarmacologia.it. But let's move on
  114. 4:29. So, are there psychotropic drugs that
  115. 4:32work on these new systems—very old
  116. 4:33systems, actually, but addressed well
  117. 4:35by psychopharmacology? Yes, absolutely
  118. 4:38yes. On the glutamatergic side, the
  119. 4:42turning point in recent years—so,
  120. 4:44already stuff on the market—has been
  121. 4:46ketamine and, shortly after, uh, let's
  122. 4:48better say esketamine nasal spray. Uh,
  123. 4:52ketamine is almost free, esketamine
  124. 4:54costs a lot; well, anyway, it has
  125. 4:56specific approval for
  126. 4:57treatment-resistant depression. But we
  127. 4:59should, as it were, in my opinion, also
  128. 5:01look a bit at intravenous ketamine
  129. 5:03which, moreover, also has better
  130. 5:05results. But if you want to be
  131. 5:07practical and fast, esketamine nasal
  132. 5:09spray has been directly approved for
  133. 5:10treatment-resistant depression. So, a
  134. 5:13drug that acts on the glutamate
  135. 5:15receptor and that, in a portion of
  136. 5:17patients, reduces depressive symptoms
  137. 5:20in hours, hours or days at most instead
  138. 5:22of weeks. To this has been added a
  139. 5:26combination of dextromethorphan and
  140. 5:27bupropion with a glutamatergic action,
  141. 5:29a new drug that will arrive, and on the
  142. 5:31GABA side, there is this combination of
  143. 5:33drugs, for example in this case
  144. 5:35dextromethorphan, the one, to be clear,
  145. 5:37from cough syrup, with bupropion—just
  146. 5:39think about it. So they, too, have a
  147. 5:42glutamatergic action. Instead, on the
  148. 5:45GABA side, neurosteroids have arrived
  149. 5:47for postpartum depression, uh,
  150. 5:49therefore allopregnanolone. Incredible,
  151. 5:52it works very well for postpartum
  152. 5:54depression. They are not magic wands,
  153. 5:56okay? They have limitations, costs,
  154. 5:59side effects, and work on only a
  155. 6:01portion of people, obviously, but they
  156. 6:03have, let's say, broken the dogma of
  157. 6:05the three molecules that seemed to have
  158. 6:07to work for everything—serotonin,
  159. 6:09dopamine, and norepinephrine. On the
  160. 6:12cholinergic side, however, the biggest
  161. 6:14news concerns schizophrenia. In 2024,
  162. 6:17the first antipsychotic that does not
  163. 6:19directly block dopamine receptors was
  164. 6:21approved in the United States, okay?
  165. 6:24Instead, it acts on the M1 and M4
  166. 6:26muscarinic acetylcholine receptors and
  167. 6:28modulates dopamine in an, let's say,
  168. 6:29indirect way. After more than 70 years
  169. 6:33of antipsychotics all built in some way
  170. 6:35on the same principle, that is, as
  171. 6:38dopamine antagonists, this is an
  172. 6:40important paradigm shift—a major, I
  173. 6:42would say radical, one. That said,
  174. 6:46science must be explained well, let's
  175. 6:48say explained in full, because many
  176. 6:50other muscarinic drugs stumbled later
  177. 6:52in the registration trials, the ones
  178. 6:54that are supposed to demonstrate
  179. 6:55efficacy. The same drug did not yield
  180. 6:59the hoped-for results when it was
  181. 7:01tested as an add-on to other
  182. 7:03antipsychotics. So, enthusiasm yes, but
  183. 7:05I would say let's keep our feet on the
  184. 7:07ground because these are experimental
  185. 7:09drugs that objectively still need to be
  186. 7:12very thoroughly tested in
  187. 7:13post-marketing studies. This is
  188. 7:15important. What else do we have? Well,
  189. 7:17you all expect me to talk about
  190. 7:18psychedelia. I have already spoken
  191. 7:21about it in several dedicated videos,
  192. 7:23also in a very critical way, so here I
  193. 7:25will only tell you one thing:
  194. 7:27psilocybin for treatment-resistant
  195. 7:29depression has completed phase 3 trials
  196. 7:31and an application for FDA approval is
  197. 7:33underway. LSD in pharmaceutical
  198. 7:36formulation has given quite positive
  199. 7:38results in phase 3 for anxiety and
  200. 7:41depression. Depressive symptoms—it
  201. 7:43would be nice to better understand what
  202. 7:45and in what way. And furthermore, in
  203. 7:482025, AbbVie, one of the largest
  204. 7:50pharmaceutical companies in the world,
  205. 7:53put up to 1.2 billion dollars on the
  206. 7:55table to acquire a short-acting
  207. 7:57psychedelic. I must say that this is a
  208. 8:01good thing on one hand. Larger, more
  209. 8:04rigorous studies, clear rules, and
  210. 8:06access for patients who want many of
  211. 8:07their new drugs. On the other hand,
  212. 8:11however, that slightly naive, slightly
  213. 8:13hippie, and even idealistic world that
  214. 8:15kept research—or rather, the spirit
  215. 8:17of psychedelia—alive for decades,
  216. 8:19when no one believed in it, risks being
  217. 8:21completely absorbed and denatured by
  218. 8:23Big Pharma. So, moving to the other
  219. 8:27side of the barricade, because
  220. 8:28industrial logic pushes toward
  221. 8:30patentable molecules, not toward
  222. 8:32psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy:
  223. 8:34therefore sessions are increasingly
  224. 8:35shorter or absent, and in some cases,
  225. 8:37even toward compounds that promise an
  226. 8:40antidepressant effect without, let's
  227. 8:41call it, the trip—therefore in the
  228. 8:43absence of a psychedelic effect. I mean
  229. 8:47, it's all legitimate, all very
  230. 8:49interesting, let's call it, worth doing
  231. 8:52, but the heart of the psychedelic
  232. 8:54renaissance, from my point of view, is
  233. 8:56very, very distorted, in the sense that
  234. 8:59the idea was that the substance alone
  235. 9:01wasn't enough, that what mattered were
  236. 9:03the interventions, let's call them
  237. 9:05psychotherapeutic, under psychedelics.
  238. 9:09That the therapeutic relationship
  239. 9:10mattered, the setting, the integration
  240. 9:12of the experience. Well, that part
  241. 9:15isn't patentable, and in my opinion,
  242. 9:17since it’s not a scalable part, I
  243. 9:19guarantee you it will be forgotten, and
  244. 9:21we'll be left with new
  245. 9:22psychopharmaceuticals, let’s call
  246. 9:24them psychedelics, without the spirit
  247. 9:26of psychedelia. This is my opinion.
  248. 9:29I've written and said it in a thousand
  249. 9:30articles, a thousand other videos, go
  250. 9:31watch them. This brings us to what I
  251. 9:34think is the most important point of
  252. 9:36this entire video: even with all these
  253. 9:37new molecules, the future of psychiatry
  254. 9:39will increasingly move toward
  255. 9:40multimodal treatments. This is the
  256. 9:45success of psychiatry, if there is to
  257. 9:47be success: that is, medication, but
  258. 9:49also psychotherapy, psychoeducation,
  259. 9:51lifestyle medicine, lifestyle—all
  260. 9:53thought of together as part of the same
  261. 9:56project and, furthermore, let me add,
  262. 9:58environmental modifications, as it’s
  263. 10:00currently becoming an increasing
  264. 10:02generator of mental suffering, this
  265. 10:04unnatural, accelerated, dystopian world
  266. 10:06we are living in. Let me give you an
  267. 10:10example I know super well: adult ADHD,
  268. 10:11where medication can make a huge
  269. 10:13difference, but. We see it every day,
  270. 10:16it's true, in some people (70%to be
  271. 10:18exact), but alone it doesn't teach you
  272. 10:19how to organize a day, it doesn't
  273. 10:21repair years of damaged self-esteem, it
  274. 10:23doesn't make you understand how your
  275. 10:25mind works, it doesn't increase
  276. 10:26awareness, it doesn't change an
  277. 10:27environment, or generally, the
  278. 10:29relationships that cause you difficulty
  279. 10:31. There you need, I repeat,
  280. 10:34psychoeducation, cognitive-behavioral
  281. 10:36interventions, mindfulness, practical
  282. 10:38strategies, coaching, coaching, and
  283. 10:40coaching. I am a huge advocate of
  284. 10:42serious coaching, done by psychologists
  285. 10:44and psychotherapists who know what they
  286. 10:46are doing. And, of course, lifestyle
  287. 10:49medicine. You know, in fact, the best
  288. 10:52results come when all these pieces work
  289. 10:54together, and the coaching approach is
  290. 10:56more interesting because one can decide
  291. 10:58to reach the finish line with a precise
  292. 11:00goal. The same point can be made, I
  293. 11:03don't know, for others—not a
  294. 11:05neurodivergence, but a classic
  295. 11:06psychopathology, let's say, bipolar
  296. 11:08disorder; the mood stabilizer remains
  297. 11:10the pillar, lithium. Nobody questions
  298. 11:13that, but we know that psychoeducation,
  299. 11:15the family approach, all psychotherapy
  300. 11:17reduces relapses; regularity of rhythms
  301. 11:19, sleep, steps, schedules, social
  302. 11:20activities, are integral parts of the
  303. 11:22treatment. Lifestyle medicine is also
  304. 11:26fundamental in bipolar disorder. The
  305. 11:28same goes for depression, OCD, and so
  306. 11:30on and so forth. So, what psychotropic
  307. 11:32drugs should we expect? As I told you,
  308. 11:35drugs that work on glutamate, GABA, and
  309. 11:38acetylcholine, plus repurposed
  310. 11:40psychedelics—we’ll see if they
  311. 11:43become psychedelic journeys or simply,
  312. 11:45uh, mundane medications. Uh, the real
  313. 11:49question, the one I invite you to
  314. 11:50reflect on now, I’d say is another.
  315. 11:53As always, uh, will we be able to
  316. 11:56integrate all these drugs into
  317. 11:58treatment paths that view the person in
  318. 12:01their entirety and all dimensions of
  319. 12:03mental health? Or will we keep looking
  320. 12:07for the magic pill, this damn magic
  321. 12:09pill that we know doesn't exist? Uh,
  322. 12:12will we manage to become people who
  323. 12:14create therapeutic paths rather than
  324. 12:17looking for the magic pill? We'll see,
  325. 12:19uh, we'll see, we'll see. I'm a bit
  326. 12:22pessimistic. Well, I hope this topic
  327. 12:24was also useful, and as always, I
  328. 12:25remind you that this video is purely
  329. 12:27for informational purposes and in no
  330. 12:29way replaces talking to a specialist.
  331. 12:32If you wish to receive information on
  332. 12:33diagnostic evaluations or therapeutic
  333. 12:35paths, you can find more information in
  334. 12:37the description below. That's all for
  335. 12:39today as well. If I’ve been helpful,
  336. 12:41leave me a like, subscribe to the
  337. 12:42channel, turn on the bell notification;
  338. 12:43best regards, and we'll see each other
  339. 12:45soon to talk about a new topic. Bye.
  340. 12:46Bye.

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