Psych in elders — Transcript
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- 0:00yeah it's a welcome this lecture will be
- 0:04about the psychiatric conditions in the
- 0:07elderly please make sure you have read
- 0:11chapter 21 out of your elders text it is
- 0:16actually just a few pages most of it
- 0:20will probably read as a review but I
- 0:24think it is still very important because
- 0:26it gives specific things that we need to
- 0:30look at in to consider when we're
- 0:32looking at the elderly population so as
- 0:35we go through what are some of the
- 0:39statistics kind of some of those
- 0:46statistics well as we've probably
- 0:49already talked about before more older
- 0:54people are representing a larger
- 0:57population than ever had before and the
- 1:00book even says by 2030 they expect it to
- 1:06be 70 1.5 million people over the age of
- 1:0865
- 1:10so everybody's living longer you know
- 1:14with all the new medical advancements so
- 1:17I think it just some of the mental
- 1:19health issues start to become more
- 1:23obvious and I hope as well you begin to
- 1:28see that because people have gotten
- 1:30older and having to deal with more
- 1:32things some things that they had dealt
- 1:36with fine earlier in their lives might
- 1:38tend to now lead to some mental health
- 1:42issues that they didn't have before some
- 1:47of those things that we need to consider
- 1:48or that they develop those because of
- 1:51the aging process often times you can
- 1:55develop some of the anxiety and
- 1:58depressive disorders because of aging
- 2:01but you can also don't forget that you
- 2:06know just because you have anxiety and
- 2:08depression doesn't mean you never get
- 2:09old so
- 2:11because of those medical advancements
- 2:14and many newer medications if you were
- 2:17diagnosed earlier in life those things
- 2:20don't go away
- 2:22so now someone's gotten over the age of
- 2:2565 they've always dealt with depression
- 2:27and anxiety now you add on top of things
- 2:31you know maybe some physical things
- 2:33going on with them because of Aging that
- 2:36can make the anxiety and depression
- 2:39worse which then turns into depression
- 2:44often times resulting in suicide it's
- 2:47becoming one of the number one killers
- 2:52in the older population Oh suicides
- 2:55becoming more common but I don't know
- 2:58that we always hear about it
- 3:00I think sometimes that's because there's
- 3:05other medical conditions going on that
- 3:08we might think that that's what might
- 3:12have killed the person instead of maybe
- 3:14necessarily a suicide and then also
- 3:17dementia you know that is you know I
- 3:20have really affects mental health and
- 3:22it's you know a mental disorder so it
- 3:25can truly really affect someone and not
- 3:29only the person who has the dementia but
- 3:32as well as think about the loved ones
- 3:35who are taking care of the person with
- 3:38dementia they oftentimes will also
- 3:40present with some anxiety and depressive
- 3:42disorders
- 3:47oftentimes what you'll see is an elder
- 3:54will be admitted into the hospital into
- 3:57an acute setting but then they the
- 4:00patient can't stay there as they
- 4:02stabilize their meds so they're
- 4:03discharged to the nursing home you know
- 4:06we know that a lot of our psychotropic
- 4:09meds take several weeks in order to see
- 4:12how they're gonna react so they can't
- 4:14keep somebody in an acute setting that
- 4:16long so they'll discharge them to the
- 4:18nursing home so oftentimes those become
- 4:22the caregivers before our
- 4:26with all this mental illness and they
- 4:28are not equipped to have the training to
- 4:32treat these mental illnesses you know I
- 4:35think a lot more nursing home staff you
- 4:37know know how to deal with the physical
- 4:41ailments that someone might have and not
- 4:43necessarily be really good and
- 4:47identifying any of those mental
- 4:50illnesses or just think oh the person's
- 4:54gotten older that's just the way they
- 4:56are there's nothing we can do you know
- 4:59they're just not with familiar with what
- 5:02we can do or even to identify that there
- 5:07is an actual mental illness going on
- 5:11another thing to consider with the
- 5:14elderly population er there's also an
- 5:16increased number of single adults as
- 5:20they grow older you know it could be
- 5:22that they've there's an increased
- 5:24divorce rate they've moved away people
- 5:28have moved away or they have been
- 5:31widowed so we have this that people
- 5:36start getting isolating themselves
- 5:37because they're afraid to go out you
- 5:40know they've been around people all
- 5:42their lives and all of a sudden maybe
- 5:44all their kids move away their spouse
- 5:46has passed away significant other is
- 5:49gone you know so now there's thing only
- 5:52they don't know what to do with
- 5:53themselves so it becomes a huge issue
- 5:58that even the APA is calling a spiritual
- 6:01crisis because people just don't know
- 6:05what to do with themselves anymore and
- 6:07what a better thing for OT to come in
- 6:10and focus on we know how to help people
- 6:14find what they can enjoy to do help them
- 6:17find new things or maybe rekindle
- 6:21something that they like to do when they
- 6:24were younger you know to give them that
- 6:26sense of purpose so that's why I really
- 6:32think you know we've been talking about
- 6:35all of you know of all those are these
- 6:37psyche things that we can do for
- 6:38patients
- 6:39we tend to kind of focus on you know mid
- 6:44or early mid adults but a lot of you are
- 6:49gonna be working in the nursing homes
- 6:50and working with an elderly population
- 6:52so we need to be open and aware that we
- 6:59can use some of those same strategies
- 7:01that we've used for younger men adults
- 7:05for our elderly population too we need
- 7:09to be open to be consultants I also
- 7:13think we need to be just open to
- 7:15listening being that ear for them to you
- 7:20know when they're having a really bad
- 7:21day and you know the physical ailments
- 7:24are just overwhelming them being that
- 7:27ear to listen to help them you know to
- 7:32help them realize you know things that
- 7:35they still can do even though they have
- 7:38these deficits or help them find new
- 7:42interests so they can still find a sense
- 7:45of purpose I think that's the one true
- 7:47thing that everybody wants whether
- 7:50you're young old disabled you know not
- 7:54you want to have a sense of purpose and
- 7:56I think the older you get you tend to
- 8:01lose you know your sense of purpose
- 8:04because things have happened and you no
- 8:07longer have the original purposes that
- 8:09you did before you know kids have grown
- 8:12you know you don't have a spouse to take
- 8:14care of anymore
- 8:15you know maybe you've retired you know
- 8:18your whole life is kind of shifted and
- 8:21we need to use that as an opportunity to
- 8:25push ot you know make this you know an
- 8:30emerging area of practice not just
- 8:32mental health but mental health in the
- 8:34elderly you know find these specific
- 8:37groups of people whether they are in the
- 8:39nursing home or you know think senior
- 8:42centers you know these are true people
- 8:46that we can really make a connection and
- 8:48a difference in
- 8:50we need to find ways to be creative so
- 8:54we can be less dependent on those
- 8:57third-party payors because oftentimes
- 9:00they're gonna pay and reimburse very
- 9:03little for mental health you know they
- 9:07want to see that you're treating these
- 9:08major medical conditions you know
- 9:11oftentimes you know the insurance and
- 9:13the medical model doesn't always value
- 9:18the mental component the mental health
- 9:20component I'm sure you've been seeing
- 9:23some of that you know in your mental
- 9:26health settings that it's hard to get
- 9:28some reimbursement for things but I also
- 9:30think that that's when we need to become
- 9:32creative you know and be advocates for
- 9:36our patients even if it's just being
- 9:39that you know that one treatment we just
- 9:41truly listen and help guide them through
- 9:45their medical conditions so they don't
- 9:49allow the mental illness to take over
- 9:51you know we as OTS are capable of doing
- 9:55that that is in our realm of treatment
- 9:59our met you know our model of practice
- 10:03so I just want to encourage you all to
- 10:06make sure you are open-minded to all of
- 10:09those things and you know the signs and
- 10:12symptoms you're gonna see you know with
- 10:14them that I looked old young adult you
- 10:18would see some of those signs and
- 10:19symptoms and the elderly as well so be
- 10:22aware of those things you know trying to
- 10:25tie in your strategies that we've taught
- 10:30you you know for other adults tie them
- 10:33into the elderly population as well
- 10:37there are several assessments that we as
- 10:42ot can use as well as the textbook also
- 10:46talks about some assessments that are
- 10:50very interdisciplinary
- 10:51I think getting other disciplines
- 10:55involved is very helpful as well I think
- 10:59especially in the nursing home because
- 11:00you have access easy access
- 11:04to other disciplines so thinking just
- 11:08some of our assessments you have the EPI
- 11:11you could want to do an amps you can do
- 11:15a co PM oh we know how to do that one
- 11:18backwards and forwards write an activity
- 11:22card sort do with a coat scale bring a
- 11:27Kel's in you know figure out where some
- 11:30of their deficits are and what we can
- 11:33maximize volition question or volition
- 11:39questionnaire you know thinking back to
- 11:41our Moho model that we've discussed you
- 11:44know where are their values of interests
- 11:46lying I think some of you are using this
- 11:50these as well as some of your other
- 11:52projects maybe with your Findlay project
- 11:54some of these assessments so make sure
- 11:58you feel well versed in these that you
- 12:01could perform these to give some
- 12:05concrete evidence to why our patients
- 12:09need some of this mental health and to
- 12:12be able to tie it back into their
- 12:14function okay so we have some
- 12:18multidisciplinary assessments the first
- 12:23one is a R and quad health survey
- 12:26questionnaire and it just has 36
- 12:28questions they capture reliable and
- 12:32valid information regarding the
- 12:34participants perceptions about their
- 12:37health status so just you where do you
- 12:40see yourself you know do you think
- 12:42things are good bad it gives you a sense
- 12:44of where they think their health is and
- 12:49then back has an anxiety inventory and a
- 12:53depression inventory so several
- 12:57disciplines can use this to come
- 12:59together okay
- 12:59where are they falling anxiety arises as
- 13:02more depression is it a little of both
- 13:06and then I know a very popular one when
- 13:08I was in the nursing house was the
- 13:11mini-mental oftentimes either activities
- 13:14or social work would do a minute mini
- 13:17mental exam to kind of see where their
- 13:19cognitive status was that's why I think
- 13:23it's very important to kind of make sure
- 13:25you're working with those disciplines
- 13:27maybe they already did a mini-mental at
- 13:30the beginning when the patient was a
- 13:32minute admitted to the facility and you
- 13:36can then perform one of the OT
- 13:38assessments and bring that information
- 13:40together to hopefully come up with a
- 13:43plan
- 13:45you can then utilize the other
- 13:49disciplines expertise in certain areas
- 13:52you know maybe social work can help you
- 13:55out with some of the mental health
- 13:58issues while you're working on a
- 13:59physical issue or you can help social
- 14:03you know you guys kind of have some
- 14:04ideas off of each other to be able to
- 14:07best suit this patient but don't forget
- 14:11about those other disciplines because
- 14:12they you know can bring some ideas to
- 14:16the table and can help you find you know
- 14:20some ideas maybe they've seen something
- 14:22that has worked for a patient before so
- 14:25please don't forget about those
- 14:30specifically going over depression
- 14:33depression is the most common
- 14:35psychiatric disorder affecting people of
- 14:37this age so I do think that that is you
- 14:42know extremely Jarre you know that you
- 14:46know it's the biggest dis or so we know
- 14:48we have to deal with this it can be from
- 14:53long-term it can also be very
- 14:56situational you know we've talked about
- 14:58you know imagine if you were you know a
- 15:00very functioning adult and you've had a
- 15:02stroke and you can no longer do the
- 15:05things that you want to be able to do
- 15:06you know you've come with you know an
- 15:08illness has made you not be able to do
- 15:12what you did for yourself before and
- 15:15you're in the hospital then you've gone
- 15:17into the nursing column and every you
- 15:19know the control has been taken away
- 15:21from you that can be very depressing you
- 15:25know so sometimes it's not even just
- 15:27okay think you've see it diagnosed
- 15:29depression they've had it all their
- 15:32lives be on the lookout for those people
- 15:35who you know because of the illness have
- 15:38now seemed to turn and you know you know
- 15:41that this is a likelihood you know
- 15:43they've had a major illness a major
- 15:46accident injury that you know depression
- 15:49is very likely and you want to try and
- 15:52help avoid those things from further
- 15:56sliding and impacting the patient's
- 16:00well-being know that if it is just new
- 16:05and situational hopefully the severity
- 16:07will not be as bad or it might be bad
- 16:12because this was a very very functioning
- 16:14adult and all the sudden you know
- 16:17strokes can come out of nowhere and all
- 16:20of a sudden they're not even able to
- 16:21feed themselves you know so that could
- 16:23cause you know severe depression but
- 16:27also look at those okay if they've been
- 16:28dealing with depression all their lives
- 16:30and one more thing happens with their
- 16:33physical health that could just spiral
- 16:37them and you want to help them control
- 16:40that because oftentimes the depression
- 16:44will have negative effects on their
- 16:46health the book even points out that you
- 16:50know some like heart doctors they you
- 16:53know it's kind of a chicken and the egg
- 16:54thing did the heart condition lead to
- 16:58the depression or the depression lead to
- 17:00the heart condition you don't know you
- 17:03know so it is very common to see that
- 17:07someone will develop depression and then
- 17:09their overall health will decline
- 17:11because they're not as active they're
- 17:14not following through with things
- 17:15they're not enjoying life anymore
- 17:18and then their overall health will
- 17:21suffer because of that so we have to
- 17:23keep that in mind also anxiety is
- 17:29another major deficit or diagnosis
- 17:36that's seen in this population we
- 17:39oftentimes need to have more
- 17:42supportive counseling and meds
- 17:45I also anxiety often accompanies the
- 17:50depression so you need to keep in the
- 17:53back of your mind if you've seen someone
- 17:55who is depressed you have to keep an eye
- 17:59out for the anxiety as well they will
- 18:02probably go hand-in-hand especially if
- 18:05there has been some sort of major
- 18:10illness or accident that has you know
- 18:13kind of halted their life birth or if
- 18:18there is some terminal diagnosis this
- 18:22patients going to become very anxious
- 18:23about what's going to happen they don't
- 18:25understand what has happened to them
- 18:30there is another specific assessment for
- 18:34anxiety that the hospital tends to use
- 18:39so hopeful I'm hoping you know you just
- 18:42kind of hope that these things get
- 18:44caught sooner I do think I tend to win
- 18:48the hospital hurries and discharges
- 18:51quickly the anxiety the depression is
- 18:54often not caught right away so that is
- 18:58when you'll see you know the people in
- 19:00the nursing home nursing therapy social
- 19:04work they're the ones finding the
- 19:08anxiety and the depression coming out
- 19:09because hospital just kind of gets
- 19:11unstable and then you know discharges
- 19:15them here you go so you need to be on
- 19:19the lookout for those things and to know
- 19:24that if you see a person with anxiety
- 19:28you have to intervene
- 19:30it will limit their function you know
- 19:33some people if they've been anxious all
- 19:35their lives they will have their own
- 19:37strategies whatever it might be they're
- 19:41used to dealing with the anxiety might
- 19:44just be reminded of their strategies but
- 19:49if not if this is a new thing that
- 19:51they're like you know what does this
- 19:53mean you know
- 19:55what does this diagnosis mean what are
- 19:56all these meds you know why are you
- 19:59telling me I can't do this anymore they
- 20:01get very anxious and that's gonna
- 20:03interfere with their ability to function
- 20:06so you have to intervene kind of think
- 20:10of this way with the depression and the
- 20:12anxiety you can't help them physically
- 20:15if you don't help them mentally as well
- 20:18you know they're going to refuse there
- 20:21because they don't understand all of the
- 20:23big words that everybody's using you
- 20:26know they don't understand why they
- 20:27can't go home you know what do you mean
- 20:30my arm doesn't work anymore and or
- 20:33they'll refuse because that's their way
- 20:36of controlling the situation you know
- 20:38they don't want to go down to dinner at
- 20:40five o'clock they always ate at six you
- 20:43know you'll see some of these things
- 20:45come out and you're not gonna be able to
- 20:47help with their physical deficits if you
- 20:51don't work on their mental deficits as
- 20:54well so you have to be open to listening
- 20:56to all that and be willing to kind of
- 21:00tie them both in at the same time and to
- 21:04be able to talk your patient through
- 21:06that you know what I understand this is
- 21:09difficult you know here's what these
- 21:11things mean you know here's why we don't
- 21:14think you could go home yet you know
- 21:16being able to explain and take the time
- 21:20out will be huge huge for your patients
- 21:27thinking of suicide in it obviously it's
- 21:30not a very you don't want to think about
- 21:33it but older Americans are more likely
- 21:37to die by suicide than any other age
- 21:39group and they say older men are more
- 21:44likely to commit suicide than any other
- 21:46group and but you know likely use a
- 21:50firearm I think this is because they
- 21:53they don't know what to do anymore
- 21:55you know they've totally lost
- 21:58you know everything that they thought
- 22:00was themselves it's gone and they don't
- 22:03know how to get back out of that hole
- 22:05you know everything you know things were
- 22:08fun
- 22:08all up until you know their health
- 22:11started deteriorating or they've now
- 22:14lost a spouse that and they don't know
- 22:16how to deal with being alone you know
- 22:19those should be huge red flags that you
- 22:22know I really think we forget about our
- 22:27elderly and we just kind of tend to push
- 22:31them into a corner they have gotten old
- 22:32they've lived a long life they're good
- 22:34you know well know maybe you know just
- 22:37because they're 75 doesn't mean they
- 22:39couldn't live for another 20 years
- 22:41you know it's or even if it is only
- 22:44another year can we make that a good
- 22:46quality of life can we you know help
- 22:49them make their last year or six months
- 22:53whatever it will be can we help make
- 22:56that as bet as good as we possibly can
- 23:00and allow them to feel some satisfaction
- 23:04in wherever they are you know in their
- 23:08life and I know that's difficult you
- 23:10know some sometimes it's just easier
- 23:13just to focus on the physical deficits
- 23:17with our older Americans but they go
- 23:23hand in hand
- 23:24I really truly believe you cannot help
- 23:27one without working on the other one as
- 23:30well
- 23:33dementia we might not think of it as a
- 23:36mental illness but it truly is you can
- 23:40get dementia from other underlying
- 23:42conditions I think you know Alzheimer's
- 23:46is the most common form but that is one
- 23:50thing that everybody needs to remember
- 23:53you know demit Alzheimer's is a form of
- 23:56dementia it's not the other way around
- 23:58so there are other different types of
- 24:02dementia Lewy body being another one
- 24:06there's also Parkinson's patients can
- 24:10develop dementia from the Parkinson's so
- 24:15dementia is the big global word and then
- 24:17there's the other like kind of
- 24:18subcategories
- 24:21but they can have this for you know a
- 24:23decade you know from early onset until
- 24:28you know the patient passes away there
- 24:31is the slow decline of their skills and
- 24:36that can really weigh on especially the
- 24:40patient but their caregivers as well you
- 24:43know all of a sudden you're watching
- 24:44your loved one slowly forget you know
- 24:48who they are who you are you know then
- 24:52you're trying to make sure they remember
- 24:54to eat you know keeping them safe that
- 24:57they're not taking too many meds are
- 24:59they taking their meds you know so
- 25:02dementia can cause you know mental
- 25:07illness for both sides you know in the
- 25:11early stages imagine what we like to
- 25:14sell you know we all have those days or
- 25:17you know I find it my head wasn't
- 25:19attached I you know I'd forget it how
- 25:22where are my keys where you know where'd
- 25:23I leave this but you can figure out
- 25:26where they are you know but imagine
- 25:28that's every day all day and you you
- 25:31know each day you tend to lose a little
- 25:33bit more and a little bit more of who
- 25:35you are you know and you're aware of it
- 25:39that can be very very difficult for
- 25:43patients to know you know they're slowly
- 25:45realizing they don't know who their
- 25:48spouses they don't recognize their kids
- 25:51you know that can be very disturbing and
- 25:55I think that can tend to you know to fly
- 26:00before about suicide I think that can
- 26:03tend to lead you know to that because a
- 26:06patient you know what no I don't want to
- 26:08become a burden to my family I don't
- 26:11want to eventually forget even how to
- 26:13feed myself so being aware that you know
- 26:18the dementia is going to cause some
- 26:20mental health issues as well and being
- 26:23open to being able to help our patients
- 26:26through that alcoholism I mean even if
- 26:32they are recovering alcoholic there
- 26:35still damage done to the brain from all
- 26:40of the alcohol excessive alcohol use is
- 26:45the third leading cause of death because
- 26:49of the lifestyle that it tends to evoke
- 26:54long term problems you know or
- 26:57short-term problems you have you know
- 26:59impaired judgment unintended injuries
- 27:03like from a fall but the longer the use
- 27:07they're gonna have increased
- 27:09neurological and cardiovascular issues
- 27:12it's gonna lead to psychiatric problems
- 27:16they have an increased risk of cancer
- 27:19and liver disease you know so even if
- 27:22you just think of you know someone who
- 27:25has the increased risks of those
- 27:27physical body illnesses and now you and
- 27:32on top of it we have the psychiatric
- 27:35changes that the alcohol causes in the
- 27:37brain you can see how this could cut you
- 27:41know be a mixture of someone wouldn't
- 27:46know what to do you know it's can become
- 27:49a huge problem and I think even those
- 27:54patients who are recovering alcoholics
- 27:56they could fall back you know into
- 28:00drinking again because they're trying to
- 28:01figure out how do I handle all of this
- 28:04you know cuz they'll they're aging and
- 28:07they don't know how to deal with you
- 28:09know them they've got a heart problem
- 28:10and I can't work like I wanted to and
- 28:13think you know my brain just isn't
- 28:16thinking clearly so I'll just go back to
- 28:18drinking you know and that's obviously
- 28:21just going to make things worse
- 28:23especially if some of their medications
- 28:26have you know and a lot of them do now
- 28:29have side effects you know with alcohol
- 28:33but I do tend to think even later in
- 28:36life people who weren't you know
- 28:39necessarily alcoholics maybe they just
- 28:41had an occasional social drink I think
- 28:44as life situations chain
- 28:48they can turn into alcoholics because
- 28:52they don't have any other outlet you
- 28:55know think of somebody who is now
- 28:57retired okay well what do I do with
- 29:00myself all day okay well I'll just you
- 29:02know I used to have a drink when I came
- 29:04home from work so I'll start with one
- 29:06and then before they know it they're
- 29:08drinking all of the time because they
- 29:11just don't know what to do with
- 29:13themselves so no alcohol can cause a
- 29:17huge problem whether it's a past problem
- 29:22or become a current problem and then
- 29:28aging with a psychosis you know as you
- 29:33age you also have different side effects
- 29:39to the medications or the long-term use
- 29:43of the medications can cause tardive
- 29:48dyskinesia some of these medications
- 29:50could cause dementia and they are
- 29:53discovering more you know certain
- 29:55medications at first they might not
- 29:58think there's any issues but when
- 30:01there's long term use more medications
- 30:05they're starting to see that there are
- 30:06changes in the brain that are occurring
- 30:10and then that could cause long-term
- 30:13effects like the dementia so knowing you
- 30:20know if someone is you know 20 30 years
- 30:23old when they're diagnosed taking
- 30:26medication all their lives they might
- 30:28now start developing some of these other
- 30:31issues because of the long term years so
- 30:38what are some things we need to think
- 30:40about when we're thinking about some
- 30:41interventions no it's a revolving door
- 30:45you're gonna see him for a little while
- 30:48they'll be okay then they'll come back
- 30:49you'll treat oh they'll go away they'll
- 30:52get discharged and they'll come back you
- 30:54know just kind of like what you're
- 30:56seeing in your mouth
- 30:57you know your outpatient mental health
- 30:59site this is you know like it would be
- 31:01you know at a nursing home you know
- 31:03you'll set things up something will
- 31:06happen and then they'll have to come
- 31:07back so it is always this constant
- 31:12revolving door with patients but you
- 31:16want to think about setting up some
- 31:18habits and rituals that this patient can
- 31:21follow to help them deal excuse me with
- 31:26how to structure their day you know if
- 31:29you have some structure to your day
- 31:30you're less likely to start mind
- 31:32wandering and worrying about different
- 31:35things or focusing on what's wrong or so
- 31:40you've got this nice structure I've
- 31:42developed some good habits through the
- 31:44day I can get through each day giving
- 31:47them some sort of meaningful occupation
- 31:49giving them a purpose that's truly what
- 31:54they need you might have your giving
- 31:56direct care you might have to set up you
- 31:59know doing more structured mental health
- 32:03type treatment sessions so actually
- 32:07treating and helping with some
- 32:10strategies also making sure everything
- 32:14the caregiver education you know we can
- 32:18never stress enough how important it is
- 32:21to teach the caregivers because they are
- 32:25truly the ones that are helping keep
- 32:28this client on the right path helping
- 32:33with what you have taught them carrying
- 32:36over all of that information you know
- 32:40patient can never do it alone they need
- 32:43help and you can't always be there so
- 32:46you have to teach the caregivers you
- 32:48know if they're they do if your patient
- 32:50does this or your family member does
- 32:52this try and give them this remind them
- 32:55of this set them up with these
- 32:57strategies they have to value it just as
- 33:01well as your patient because they are
- 33:03the ones that are going to be in the
- 33:05trenches with the patient at two o'clock
- 33:08in the morning when they're having a
- 33:10crying spell
- 33:11or you know when you know they need to
- 33:14get up and go to the bathroom and they
- 33:15don't recognize where they are they need
- 33:19to pee just as prepared and equipped
- 33:22with how to handle things as you would
- 33:25give those things to your patient
- 33:31so hopefully again make sure you go back
- 33:34and read through the chapter it should
- 33:37be a fairly easy read like I've said
- 33:40everything should be kind of some sort
- 33:42or review and that is all
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