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0:19Hey everybody, it's James Lindseay.
0:21You're listening to the New Discourses
0:23[music] podcast and as we have been
0:26doing, we're going to explore a little
0:28bit more about um Islam. In this episode
0:32today, I'm actually going to be reading
0:34from a book that I'm not criticizing for
0:37once. Um I'm going to read from a book
0:40by my friend Danny Burmawi, who runs the
0:43Ideological Defense Institute, IDI. Um,
0:48I recommend you check out the well Danny
0:51himself, but also the uh the IDI
0:54platform. Go look them up on X, see what
0:57they're doing. Um, then he's really
0:59putting himself on the front line as far
1:01as it goes in terms of defending America
1:04or helping at least inform Americans
1:06about how we can defend ourselves
1:07against the jihad uh that is coming for
1:11us largely through like kind of policy
1:14and population means although there is
1:16some terrorism built in there and he's
1:18written this book I think that's very
1:19important. I've read the book all the
1:21way through to make sure it's not crazy.
1:23Um, it's a very important book for
1:25Americans, uh, and Westerners more
1:27generally to kind of get their heads
1:29around what the deal is with Islam's
1:33orientation toward Israel and Western
1:36Civilization. It's titled Islam, Israel,
1:39and the West, a former Muslims analysis.
1:42So, Danny is um, a Jordanian by birth.
1:46He was raised as a Muslim till he was
1:48roughly 20 years old, if I've got that
1:50right. Maybe there's a detail wrong
1:52here. He is now a Christian. He lives in
1:55the United States at this point, but is
1:57not a US citizen. Um, and
1:59[clears throat] he runs this this this
2:01ideological defense institute. Full
2:03disclosure, he asked me to join the
2:05board of its adviserss, and I have done.
2:07Um, but I found this book to be very
2:09informative. It's written in a very
2:11plain, nononsense way. It's compellingly
2:13written and uh with his permission I'm
2:16going to read to you about 10 or 11
2:18pages of this book from the second
2:20chapter which is titled the Islamic war
2:23on Israel to give you some context in
2:25particular. This isn't by any stretch
2:28the most like dramatic or informative
2:32even part of the book. I really
2:34recommend you read it. It's about 210
2:36pages long. um at least 200 of those
2:40pages are pretty amazing. Uh and it it's
2:44really like I said clarifying and eye
2:46openening for people in who who are not
2:48familiar with some of these complexities
2:50in the history. This section is actually
2:52more about the history of the region
2:55called Palestine and the so-called
2:57Palestinian cause. And while this from
3:01what I'm starting to look into, I went
3:02on this major rabbit hole due to reading
3:04this particular part of the book um and
3:07I found out that this is actually a
3:09relatively um accessible and superficial
3:12treatment of a really scary phenomenon.
3:15But I think it's really worth hearing
3:17and inviting you to get into that same
3:20rabbit hole of what in the hell is
3:22Palestine? As a matter of fact, what is
3:25it about? What is it for? Why is the
3:29radical left, which is not really Muslim
3:32but mostly communist, so invested in
3:35this concept of Palestine and thus
3:37anti-Israel. What does that have to do
3:39with the woke right and their
3:40anti-Israel stance, which seems to be
3:43favoring and helping communists against
3:45the United States, not just against
3:48Israel. It seems to be a very strong
3:49anti-America agenda, using Israel kind
3:52of as an excuse in both cases. Well, we
3:55can kind of get to the root of that by
3:56understanding this. so-called
3:57Palestinian conflict or the Palestinian
4:00cause is a better way to phrase that. I
4:03say so-called every time you hear the
4:04word Palestine or Palestinian, you
4:06should put it in scare quotes cuz it's
4:08not a real thing. And that's kind of the
4:10important part to understand here. But
4:12Burmawi here, Danny puts a really fine
4:15um point in very simple language on kind
4:17of what the big picture is about what's
4:19going on there. And I just wanted to
4:20share that with you. And again, this is
4:21with his permission reading from his
4:23book, which I encourage you to get. I'll
4:25put links to that. It is called Islam,
4:27Israel and the West. A former Muslims
4:30analysis. Like I said, Danny Bawi was a
4:33Jordanian Muslim who is now living in
4:36America and is a Christian and has been
4:38a believing Christian for uh many years.
4:41Um so just this is going to kind of pick
4:44up in media rest in the middle of a uh
4:48section and I'm going to read the two
4:49subsequent sections after that and just
4:51the first paragraph of the one after
4:53that. So, I'm just going to read, like I
4:55said, about 11 or 12 pages of this,
4:57maybe it's 10 or 12 pages, I don't know,
4:59of this book and to give you a a flavor
5:01of how Bawi writes, but also to give you
5:03a taste of um what this Palestinian
5:08cause is really all about when somebody
5:10sits down and in a simple way, like I
5:12said, there's a deep rabbit hole here
5:14that's worth going into, but in a simple
5:16way breaks breaks it down for a lay
5:19audience that's not familiar with all of
5:21this complicated history. And I say that
5:23when I say that I'm starting in media
5:24arrest, um I'm skipping a lot of very
5:27complicated history to start kind of in
5:30the middle. So we're going to start as
5:32we often do with a uh with a pronoun
5:36this that um I'm not going to fill you
5:39in on, but that this is this kind of
5:42long century long I should say history.
5:45So obviously the history of the region
5:46of Palestine goes back much further. Um,
5:49but this uh particular section, let me
5:52go back a page and see what the it's
5:54titled or a few pages, is called the
5:56root of the conflict. So, it's several
5:58pages that he's just spent explaining
6:01kind of how all these different factions
6:03of Muslims and Arabs and so on think and
6:06so on, including things about the Muslim
6:08Brotherhood, 12 Shia and so on. If you
6:11don't know what 12ver Shiaism is, um,
6:15that's what Kini and the Iranians
6:18believe in. If you don't know what the
6:20Muslim Brotherhood is or why it's Sunni,
6:23this is one of these and what the
6:24difference is between those two things
6:26and why it's so weird that all these
6:28Sunni leaders are showing up to the Shia
6:32cleric Kamani's funeral and paying their
6:35respects like this book will help you
6:37clarify that. But I'm not going to get
6:38into all that. I'm going to start kind
6:39of in the middle of the story here. I'm
6:43not talking about Assad and all of these
6:45different characters that you've heard
6:46of. I'm going to start with this. This,
6:50he says, was the culmination of a
6:52centurylong ideological struggle. So
6:56that's what he's just described. driven
6:59by the conviction and this is the key
7:01point that I want to start with here
7:03driven by the conviction that only
7:05Islamic governance is legitimate. Okay,
7:09so this is the key root cause of the
7:12Islamic war on Israel as this chapter is
7:15titled. This is the key to Islam Israel
7:17in the west as he is analyzing it which
7:21is that many of the players involved
7:24only care about Islamic rule seeing all
7:29other rule particularly in formerly
7:31Islamic controlled lands as
7:34illegitimate. So Israel represents
7:37Jewish sovereignty. And the case he's
7:39been making up to this point is that the
7:41Muslims barely cared as different groups
7:44controlled the land going back. The land
7:46was originally conquered in the 600s uh
7:49by by one of the uh califfs of Islam.
7:54the whole region was taken over and this
7:57changed hands again and again and again
7:59from the 600s down through the 1400s
8:02when the Ottomans who are ultimately as
8:04we would call them today Turkish took
8:06control of the land with their empire
8:08and they're still Muslims and it was you
8:10know the Arabs weren't happy about it
8:12but so what and then in 1917
8:17something different happened it was 1517
8:19to 1917 sorry uh that that went that the
8:22Ottomans controlled the era or maybe
8:24it's 16. I don't know. I don't care. Uh
8:27at any rate, 1917, World War I saw the
8:31British and the French and the Allied
8:33powers defeat the central powers,
8:36including in particular by 17, not 18,
8:39the Ottomans, and they took the land and
8:42they set up with the intention of
8:45recreating a Jewish homeland in Eat's
8:48Israel, the land of Israel. And now you
8:52have a non-Muslim
8:55steward and then eventually sovereign of
8:58that land. And the so-called
9:01Palestinians lost their The entire
9:04history of the wars in the region for
9:07the last century is only comprehensible
9:09through that lens, which is that
9:12non-Muslims
9:13control the land and the Muslims lost
9:16their And this sentence I started
9:19with is the core explanation for why.
9:22Just want to drive in how important it
9:24is to understand this. This he said was
9:27the culmination of a centurylong
9:29ideological struggle. So we're talking
9:31about by 2024 century long you go back
9:34to what the early 1920s or even 1917
9:40when this power shift happened and took
9:43the control of the land the stewardship
9:45of the land out of Muslim hands for the
9:48first time since the 7th century. This
9:51was the culmination of a centurylong
9:53ideological struggle driven by the
9:55conviction that only Islamic governance
9:58is legitimate.
10:00the Assad regime's secular baism, the
10:04Lebanon's uh like Lebanon's
10:06Christian-led state was an affront to
10:08the UMA's vision of sovereignty. So
10:10here's a Islamic word um um is all of
10:14the Islamic lands treated as if they're
10:16kind of one country in a sense. And so a
10:19good parallel for thinking about this in
10:20a western context is that it's like the
10:22Islamic Empire or if you want it's like
10:24the Soviet Union. Soviet Union was a
10:26bunch of united socialist states, right?
10:30It wasn't Russia. Russia was just the
10:32biggest one and the most central of
10:33them. But there were all these other
10:35satellite states. Well, not even
10:36satellite states were all these other
10:37states that were incorporated formally
10:39into the union. And then there are all
10:40these satellite states. And so the UMA
10:42that so that's like a socialist or a
10:44communist um Soviet republic that spraws
10:48out beyond Russia with Russia kind of as
10:50its center. The UMA is like that in a
10:52sense. It is this sprawling
10:54international project. It doesn't matter
10:56if there are two one country, two
10:58countries or 57 countries in it. It is
11:01this broad sprawling concept of a single
11:04Islamic nation that in some sense many
11:08if not most if not all that's
11:10complicated when we get to the Shia
11:13versus Sunni divide uh among others. But
11:16many if if not most if not all um
11:19Muslims will who at least those who
11:21believe in the concept of a caliphate ru
11:24r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r
11:24r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r
11:24ruling over the uh this single Islamic
11:28land called the um would agree upon. So
11:30many Muslims believe in this concept of
11:32the ummah. The um means the Islamic
11:35empire in some sense and the goal is to
11:37spread the um so the idea here that he's
11:40conveying is that uh the sovereignty
11:43being shifted out of Muslim hands
11:46starting again in 1917 during World War
11:49I with the defeat of the Ottomans is an
11:52affront to the Umah's vision of
11:54sovereignty. So this he's claiming is
11:57and this is the key point is a
11:58fundamentally a war of sovereignty of
12:02who can be sovereign in any land that
12:05was previously controlled by Muslims.
12:08I've heard a debate. I don't know what's
12:09true in the past. I've made the case
12:11passionately. I was told I was wrong. I
12:13was told by somebody else I was right. I
12:15don't know. Um but that this concept
12:17when this land was conquered all the way
12:19back in the 7th century, it was declared
12:21wak
12:23w aqf. So you can barely hear the f on
12:26the end of that, but wak uh is is land
12:29that has been set aside for Allah. Allah
12:32is which means the god is the owner of
12:35that land. And once Allah is the owner,
12:37that's totally inalienable. Only Allah
12:40can own or control that land. uh in the
12:43future. It is set aside entirely for his
12:46purposes as a god and only Muslims of
12:50sufficient uh devotion can be its
12:53stewards. I don't know how relevant that
12:55doctrine is. I hear in the modern world
12:57that doctrine is sometimes relevant,
12:59sometimes not. I hear that I've
13:00overstated the case. I do know that it
13:02is in the kamas charter that it they
13:05recognize the land of Eretz Israel where
13:08Israel is today the land of Israel as
13:11being Islamic wak and therefore feel
13:14compelled under Islamic duty to try to
13:17take it back that's in their 1982
13:19charter I haven't read a lot of the
13:21other charters so I don't know if they
13:23if like Hezbollah's charter from 1985
13:25etc say something similar um but at any
13:28rate uh this broader idea of The ummah
13:32is sufficient without getting into wak
13:34that this idea that the umah once
13:36Islamic is always Islamic and therefore
13:38only Islamic sovereigns can run it
13:41implies that Jewish sovereignty or
13:44Christian sovereignty or ba'ist
13:46sovereignty in the area is a problem and
13:49that's what he's saying and you cannot
13:51understand this issue outside of that
13:53that very many Muslims in particular
13:56ones that have lots of weapons and are
13:58willing to act in jihad with those
14:01weapons believe that nobody but Muslims
14:04have a legitimate claim to sovereignty
14:06on that land and anything else is an
14:08affront. That means there is no solving
14:11the problem. There is no two-state
14:13solution. There is none of this from
14:15their perspective which aligns with
14:17everything we've seen for a century. He
14:20says that is why the war on Israel must
14:22be understood within the same framework.
14:25It is not a dispute over settlements or
14:28borders. It is a war against Jewish
14:30sovereignty itself. And that's a key
14:33concept we all have to have. That's why
14:35I'm lingering so much on this first
14:36paragraph.
14:38He says, "Just as Lebanon's Christian
14:40sovereignty was rejected for daring to
14:42rule Islamic land outside of Sharia, so
14:45too, Israel is rejected for daring to
14:48exist as a sovereign Jewish nation on
14:50territory once claimed by Islam." So
14:53this is a fundamental conflict clash in
14:57fact of civilizational
14:59uh beliefs and structures. The Islamic
15:02world believes that the ummah is the
15:04ummah and we could get into the walk
15:05part of this or not. It's irrelevant or
15:08maybe super relevant. I don't know and I
15:10don't particularly care. The Islamic
15:12belief held by maybe upwards of most of
15:16two billion people. I have no idea how
15:18many Muslims a high percentage of them
15:20believe in it. believe that the land
15:22where Israel now sits cannot be
15:25controlled by anything but Muslims and
15:27the land where Lebanon now sits cannot
15:29be controlled by anything but Muslims.
15:32Therefore, a Christian Lebanon is
15:34unthinkable. It is an affront to Allah.
15:36That is a problem that they will go to
15:39war for and have at least these
15:41fundamentalist radicals. We're going to
15:43hear more about who they are when we get
15:45to the end of this part or this uh this
15:47section I'm going to read. Now, same
15:50thing, and this is the key for us, is
15:52with the Jewish idea. A Jewish state or
15:55even a secular Jewish state of Israel
15:58doesn't have to be a religious Jewish
16:00state of Israel. It's not even
16:01particularly always all about the Jewish
16:04thing. It's that it's non-Islamic
16:06sovereignty, a sovereign state on land
16:08they regard to be fundamentally Islamic.
16:10And this is a clash of civilizations
16:12because in Western civilization, we
16:15believe in things like nation states. We
16:17believe that if you got your ass kicked
16:20in World War I and you lost your land
16:21and it got put under the protectorate
16:23and then we come up with all these plans
16:25to the United Nations and so on and like
16:28that's the deal. But Muslims in large
16:31numbers reject that concept entirely.
16:34And what Barawi is saying here in the
16:37book is that if you don't understand
16:38that, you don't understand anything
16:40about the conflict in Israel from its
16:44Muslim neighbors. Okay. So just as
16:47Lebanon's Christian sovereignty was
16:49rejected for daring to rule Islamic land
16:51outside Sharia, so to Israel reject is
16:55rejected for daring to exist as a
16:57sovereign Jewish nation on territory
16:58once claimed by Islam. Israel's
17:01emergence forced the Arab world to
17:03accept the permanence of the nation
17:05state system. That's basically the
17:08Westfalian system which is largely what
17:11we consider to be western civilization
17:14coming out of the middle ages.
17:16That is why Israel remains an obsession.
17:19Erasing it would not just mean the
17:21elimination of one small state. It would
17:24reopen the path to a caliphate, undo
17:27hard uh the hard boundary that Israel
17:29imposed and restore the dream of empire.
17:33So that's a big statement and that's key
17:36to understand. Israel is an obsession
17:39among their neighbors, not just because
17:41they're Jewish, but also because it
17:43actually represents the cornerstone of
17:45Western civilization since the Middle
17:48Ages, which is the nation state system
17:50that they reject. They believe if they
17:53are into the caliphate, if they are into
17:56the Ummah, they believe that there
17:58should be one giant Islamic empire, that
18:00the national borders are kind of mostly
18:02irrelevant. um they have some
18:05significance but the secondary
18:06significance and this is a fundamental
18:09rejection that any land can have any
18:12sovereign control over it whatsoever
18:15that's not Muslim and in line with the
18:18um and the the the dream of an empirical
18:21caliphate. So the next section is called
18:24hijacking Palestine. I feel like I
18:27wanted to read this was the section I
18:28originally wanted to read for this
18:30podcast and when I started to reread it
18:32to double check I was like this is this
18:34is missing something and it was that
18:35context I just gave you but Palestine
18:38becomes the object and his claim is that
18:40Palestine as a concept gets hijacked by
18:43certain movements that we're going to
18:44hear about in order to achieve what
18:48we've experienced for at least the last
18:5150 years which is the kind of unrest and
18:54terrorism and violence and continuous
18:56kind of war in the region. But now
18:58you've heard the basis for that war. You
19:01understand why the Muslim side, the Arab
19:03sides continually reject the idea of a
19:06two-state solution. Why that's
19:08completely unworkable. Why October 7th
19:11resulted in the murders of so many
19:14left-wing Israelis. So many of them that
19:17were murdered were left-wing Israelis
19:18who believed in what was sometimes
19:20called or is called the Conceptsia. this
19:22idea, this concept or conception that
19:24they could be nice enough to the
19:26Palestinians, the Gazins, etc., uh,
19:28Gazins in particular, to bring them into
19:32wanting to have a positive social and
19:34economic arrangement and and maybe make
19:36it work. These people would go out and
19:38protest on the weekends in favor of
19:41Gazin's rights. They would employ them.
19:43And little did they know that the
19:44Gazins, the so-called Palestinians, were
19:47actually using those opportunities to
19:49map out the territories that they were
19:52going to destroy and rape and murder and
19:55kill on October 7th. They were being
19:58taken advantage of in their kind of
20:00kibutnik left-wing s semi-communist way
20:04of thinking. And boy, did that wake up a
20:06country. And so a lot of Israel's
20:08attitude in the wake of October 7th,
20:102023
20:12uh has been an awakening from this
20:14delusion that a two-state solution is
20:16workable. It's as if they came back to
20:18the reality that Burmawi is com
20:20conveying here. But to understand what's
20:22going on, we have to understand this
20:24idea of Palestine. And what he is
20:26presenting here is that it's a hijacked
20:28concept. So hijacking Palestine, he
20:32says, "For most of recorded history,
20:33Palestine was a geographical label, not
20:36the name of a state or the banner of a
20:38distinct people. To project backwards
20:41the notion that a sovereign Palestinian
20:43nation once existed, dispossessed by
20:46colonial conspiracies is historical
20:49revisionism of the highest order." In
20:51other words, Palestine never existed as
20:54a state. Never. It has never been one.
20:57It has no history as such. He says um of
21:01the highest order, the term was never
21:03created by Arabs and certainly not by a
21:06people calling themselves Palestinians.
21:09It was imposed by conquerors. First by
21:12the Romans and then later by the British
21:14as an imperial designation for a region
21:17whose population never self-identified
21:20as a single nation. So, don't let people
21:23fool you that Palestine is this ancient
21:25nation and they pull out their
21:26propaganda and these old coins and all
21:28this crap. Yes, Arabs lived there for a
21:33long time backwards. In fact, many of
21:35them lived there almost in really bad
21:37conditions for themselves under Ottoman
21:39rule. And they weren't always fans of
21:42the, like I said, think of them as
21:43Turks, as of the Turkish Ottomans. In
21:47fact, part of what happened in World War
21:48I was that the British and the French
21:50went and struck a deal with a bunch of
21:52the Arabs and said something about Arab
21:53sovereignty and an Arab state uh in
21:56return for helping them overthrow the
21:58Ottomans because they needed the
22:00Ottomans destroyed in order to win World
22:02War I because the Ottomans had an
22:05alliance with the Hungar
22:07Austrohungarians, Austria, which had an
22:09alliance with Germany, them creating the
22:11primary, the triple alliance that
22:13created what was called the central
22:15powers that the triple alliance which is
22:17really like four countries of the uh
22:19allied powers were fighting against
22:21those being British, France, Italian and
22:24uh Russian. And so this is a very
22:27complicated war. But at any rate, the
22:29British and the French promised that if
22:31the Arabs helped overthrow the Ottomans,
22:33they could have an Arab state. And it
22:34turns out they never had any intention
22:36of giving them that. So the British and
22:37the French sort of screwed them over um
22:39in a manner of speaking. Uh and that is
22:42kind of part of the root of the conflict
22:44here. But the real root of the conflict
22:45is what we've just discussed that this
22:48is Arab or sorry this was Islamic land
22:50that should never ever in the minds of
22:52many Muslims ever be allowed to have
22:55sovereignty uh controlled by anybody
22:57else. All right. So here we're talking
23:00though that this was this term Palestine
23:02was an imperial designation that the
23:04Romans actually gave it that was then
23:06ratified by the British coming in when
23:08the British stepped in in 1917.
23:11The origin, Barmawi tells us, of the
23:14word Palestine dates to the Roman
23:15Emperor Hadrien in CE 135. So that's a
23:21long time ago. 135, you're talking about
23:23the the Roman destruction of Jerusalem
23:25in 70 through 74 and just about 60 years
23:30later, we have the designation of the
23:32entire region being called Palestine. He
23:35says after the Jewish Bar Koba, no,
23:38Kokbar, sorry, I read that wrong. the
23:40Barokba revolt. The amp emperor Hadrien
23:44was pissed off. It is an act of
23:46deliberate in an act of deliberate
23:48humiliation. Barmawi writes, "Hadrien
23:50renamed the province of Judea to Syria
23:53Palestinia,
23:55borrowing the name from the long
23:57defeated Philistines, historic enemies
24:00of Israel, in order to suppress Jewish
24:02identity and erase Jewish claims to the
24:04land. So, one does not merely piss off
24:06the Roman Empire, but the Jews had
24:08managed it with their revolt, the
24:10Barhawkba revolt. Uh, and in the Romans
24:14decided, Hadrien decided to humiliate
24:16them by not only defeating them again,
24:19but renaming the entire region in the
24:21name of their historical enemies, the
24:23Philistines, naming it Syria Palestina.
24:27That's where the word Palestine comes
24:29from. The name persisted uh in
24:32Byzantine, Islamic and European writings
24:35as a regional term, but never as a title
24:37of a state, a government or a national
24:39movement. So now 135
24:43AD, fast forward to the late 19th and
24:46early 20th centuries. By then, Barmawi
24:50tells us under Ottoman rule, the land
24:51known today as Israel, he says the West
24:54Bank, which the Israelis call Judea and
24:56Samaria exclusively, uh, and Gaza, which
24:59is controlled by Egypt or was controlled
25:01by Egypt, I'm sorry, uh, was not
25:03governed by a single entity called
25:05Palestine. Instead, it was divided into
25:07administrative districts. The Jerusalem
25:09Sanjac and parts of the Beirut and
25:12Damascus viles. These are kind of
25:14political designations for amounts of
25:16land. So a bunch of sanjocks creates a
25:18viliet. It's like districts versus like
25:21provinces or something like that. There
25:23was no Palestinian authority, no
25:26parliament, no flag, no capital city
25:29bearing that name. Only after the fall
25:32of the Ottoman Empire in World War I did
25:34the term reemerge, this time under
25:36British control as an administrative
25:38convenience, not a recognition of
25:42national identity. The League of Nations
25:44mandate for Palestine granted to Britain
25:47in 1922
25:49codified the term in law. The mandate
25:52explicitly called for the establishment
25:54of quote a national home for the Jewish
25:58people end quote while safeguarding the
26:00civil and religious rights of existing
26:03non-Jewish communities. Nowhere did it
26:06recognize nor even hint at a sovereign
26:09Arab state of Palestine. Arab leaders
26:13across the region knew this well. Their
26:16resistance, it says, was not to defend a
26:19uniquely Palestinian identity, but to
26:22reject Jewish sovereignty all together.
26:25Again, that key point of what's going on
26:28in the region. What did emerge under the
26:31British mandate were emblems of
26:34governance, passports, coins, stamps,
26:37official, and official steels bearing
26:39the word Palestine. Yet, these should
26:42not be misread as signs of national
26:44existence. So, that's the propaganda
26:46that you'll see a lot of times. Like,
26:47look at this old coin. It predates the
26:49founding of Israel and the land was
26:51called Palestine, but there's coins,
26:53etc. There's actually a photo of one of
26:54these and it says Palestine in English
26:57across the top. And in Hebrew, it says
27:00the same on the left and in Arabic it
27:02says the same on the right. If you go to
27:04Israel today, you'll see that literally
27:06every sign is in these three languages
27:08in equal size, equal prominence.
27:13Um, so this is the propaganda that you
27:15see these things as alleged evidence
27:16that Palestine goes back historically.
27:19But Barmawi says, "Don't fall for it."
27:21He says, "These should not be misread as
27:23signs of national existence. They were
27:25colonial tools as politically empty as
27:28stamps marked British India or French
27:31Indo-China. Passports labeled Palestine
27:34were issued by British consulates and
27:36carried equally by Jews and Arabs. The
27:40Palestinian Citizenship Order of 1925
27:43merely confirmed that all Ottoman
27:45subjects in the territory would
27:47henceforth be quote citizens of
27:50Palestine under British authority. So
27:53anybody who was there at the time when
27:55the British took over, all Ottoman,
27:58notice the word subjects, by the way,
28:00all Ottoman subjects in the territory
28:02would be quote citizens of Palestine.
28:04This was not a unique nation by any
28:06stretch, and no Arab nation in the
28:09region would have recognized it as such.
28:12Indeed, he writes, "Jewish institutions
28:16freely use the word quote Palestine
28:18during the mandate, not because they
28:20identified as quote Palestinian in the
28:22modern Arab sense, but because it was
28:25the internationally recognized name of
28:27the territory. The Palestine Post,
28:30today's Jerusalem Post, was a Jewish
28:33newspaper. The Palestine Philarmonic
28:35Orchestra, now the Israel philarmonic,
28:37was founded by Jewish refugees from Nazi
28:40Germany. The Jewish agency referred to
28:44uh its work quote in Palestine.
28:47Palestine Airways Limited and the
28:49Palestine Electric Corporation were both
28:52Jewish owned enterprises. Jewish
28:54products carried the label quote made in
28:56Palestine just as goods made in Alaska
28:59before 1959 bore quote made in US
29:03territory.
29:05Arab nationalists did not object to this
29:08terminology because at the time quote
29:10Palestinian was not a national
29:13identifier. The Arab press itself
29:16referred to Jews as Palestinians just as
29:18it talked uh just as it spoke of Yafa
29:21citrus or Hifa textiles as Palestinian
29:25exports. When Arab activists organized
29:28economic boycott, they called them
29:30boycott of quote Palestinian products.
29:34Tellingly, there was no Palestinian
29:36flag, no Palestinian parliament, and no
29:40Palestinian government. Throughout this
29:42period, Arabs in the land were absorbed
29:45into broader Arab nationalist and
29:48panislamic movements. Their loyalties
29:50were to Damascus, Cairo, Baghdad, or to
29:54Islam itself, not to a distinct
29:57Palestinian nation. He here shows a
30:01picture of a newspaper uh headline that
30:04says Arabs to boycott Palestinian goods
30:08uh vote action against Jewish industry
30:10charging tai with Zionism and political
30:14aims.
30:16He goes on to write when Arab armies
30:18invaded the nashant state of Israel in
30:211948 they did not march under a
30:24Palestinian banner. They fought under
30:27the flags of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq,
30:31and Lebanon. Their aim was not to quote
30:34liberate Palestine as a sovereign
30:37homeland, but to annihilate the Jewish
30:40state. I'll just add that that is
30:41absolutely what they said they were
30:43going to do. It was absolutely uh their
30:46goal. And the reason that this all
30:47kicked off was because the British by
30:501947,
30:52strapped because of World War II, had
30:54had enough of the squabbbling and the
30:56fighting in the region and handed the
30:58problem off to the new newly formed
31:00United Nations, which then issued
31:03something like resolution 181, which uh
31:07sought to create effectively a
31:09partition, a two-state solution, which
31:11the Jews were like, "Yeah, okay. We'll
31:14take it." And the Arabs were like, "Oh,
31:16hell no. We are going to war." And their
31:19goal was not to go to war with Europe or
31:22to go to war with the United Nations or
31:24to go to the United Nations and argue
31:25and fight and try say how terrible this
31:28was. It was to solve the problem by
31:31eradicating all of the Jews. That was
31:34the goal. So by May 15th of the next
31:37year, 1948,
31:39um the UN finally ends up having to
31:42throw up its hands. And in this gap, you
31:45have Bengurian leading the Israeli
31:47contingent to sign the declaration of
31:49independence which is immediately
31:50ratified by President Truman within an
31:53hour or so, the US president and so on.
31:57um the international bodies immediately
31:59start to recognize the sovereign state
32:01of Israel. And this uh at that point um
32:05civil war within the region shifts to a
32:08war of destruction from these five
32:10armies which did not march under a
32:13unified Palestinian flag or talk about
32:15Palestine at all. They were their own
32:17countries. Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq,
32:20and Lebanon sought to erase and
32:22eradicate the Jews. They lost that war
32:26tra like catastrophically. That's the
32:28word I'm looking for because
32:29catastrophic loss of a war is a
32:31catastrophe. So they called this whole
32:33affair the Nagba. It wasn't tragic for
32:36them. It was uh hilarious in a sense. So
32:38the Nagba is them having lost this war
32:41where they tried to drive the Jews out
32:43of the land because they had established
32:45a sovereign country. But they in fact
32:46were already waging this war a year
32:48earlier. And the reason they were waging
32:50the war earlier was because the United
32:52Nations tried to partition the land. So
32:54we go back to Burmawi's original point
32:56that gives all of this the context.
32:58Besides the fact that none of these
32:59people were quote Palestinian, the
33:02context is you have now sovereignty that
33:05is not Islamic on lands regarded as part
33:08of the Ummah, as part of Islamic land.
33:11That's the root of the whole problem.
33:14That's not solvable by a two-state
33:16solution. A two-state solution
33:18perpetuates the problem. And when you
33:20understand this, you understand why they
33:21reject every attempt for a two-state
33:24solution and a stable peace. Very
33:27important to understand. He goes on,
33:30Burmali writes, "The 1948 ArabIsraeli
33:33war marked a decisive turning point.
33:36With Israel's Declaration of
33:38Independence secured legally,
33:39diplomatically, and militarily, the old
33:42British administrative label of quote
33:44Palestine was vacated. Into that vacuum,
33:48a new narrative was born. For the first
33:50time, the term Palestinian began to
33:53acquire the weight of national identity.
33:55So what happened was you had a term for
33:57a region that dealt with a lot of
33:59different things and it suddenly lost
34:01its meaning when Israel became a state
34:03in 1948 and they took advantage of the
34:07evacuated ter evacuated term to give it
34:10a new meaning which is this kind of
34:12meaning of resistance and that's the
34:14same exact kind of resistance and I mean
34:16this very literally that we hear from
34:19leftists on campus today the same
34:21resistance that they said when they held
34:23up their fists in black lives matter.
34:25The same resistance when they said that
34:27their main objective in 2016 would 17
34:31would be to resist Trump. This is the
34:34same communist resistance and it was
34:36imported overwhelmingly
34:39not immediately but overwhelmingly from
34:41the Soviets as we will hear in the years
34:44that followed. So this is back in 1948.
34:47Burmawi writes the Arab world confronted
34:50a propaganda dilemma. how to
34:52delegitimize a Jewish state that had
34:54emerged within the framework of an
34:56international uh within the framework of
34:58international law and United Nations
34:59recognition. Okay, so this is why again
35:01I say this is a clash of civilizations.
35:04The two civilizations are western
35:06civilizations or really west failian
35:08civilization that recognizes nation
35:10states and all of this international fra
35:14law framework the United Nations
35:15recognition the recognition of say the
35:17president of the United States etc.
35:20and the fact that under Islamic views,
35:23the Islamic worldview does not recognize
35:27its legitimacy because it's not under
35:29Islamic sovereignty. So this is the
35:31clash of civilizations, Islamic versus
35:34Westfallian or Western. That is the
35:36fundamental core issue and Israel is
35:39literally the nexus of this. So if you
35:41are siding with the Palestinian cause
35:44instead of with Israel, you are taking
35:46the side of the Islamists who have
35:49teamed up with the Soviets who have
35:51teamed up with their modern descendants
35:54and you are teaming up against Western
35:56civilization. So don't you dare tell me
35:58you're a defender of Western
35:59civilization, but that you just have
36:01some questions about the legitimacy of
36:02Israel as a state because they stole
36:04land from the Palestinians or whatever
36:06else. Don't you dare tell me that you
36:08are not siding with the western
36:09civilizational concept and these are the
36:12two concepts that are at war. Is the
36:14umma and the caliphate legitimate or do
36:17western norms of international law and
36:20statethood nation state recognition
36:22actually mean something? That's the
36:24fundamental conflict and this is very
36:26clear here.
36:28The solution Barawi writes was
36:30retroactive invention. So they invented
36:34Palestine backwards to create a lever to
36:38uh delegitimize Israel as a sovereign
36:41state because their worldview does not
36:43include that while everybody else's
36:45worldview does. This is why it's such a
36:48weird and awful and crazy thing that we
36:51have Europeans now coming out in the
36:53wake of October 7th legitimizing the
36:56claim that Palestine is a state. That is
36:59why this is so crazy. They are literally
37:01rejecting the concept of the nation
37:03state itself to uh that all of western
37:07civilization including their states are
37:08based on in order to ratify this bogus
37:12as he calls it retroactive invention. He
37:16says a displaced and oppressed
37:17Palestinian nation that's in quotes
37:20Palestinian nation end quote was
37:22conjured into history supposedly
37:25predating Israel. Yet before 1948, not a
37:28single international resolution, not a
37:30single Arab League charter, and not a
37:32single local declaration referred to a
37:35sovereign Palestinian nation. The
37:38identity was not preserved from
37:39antiquity. It was constructed after the
37:42fact. What emerged were political tools,
37:44symbols masquerading as heritage. The
37:47Palestinian flag, for example, was not
37:50of Palestinian origin at all. It derived
37:52from the banner of the Arab revolt of
37:551916,
37:56later used by the short-lived Arab
37:58Federation of Iraq and Jordan in 1958,
38:02and finally co-opted by the Palestine
38:05Liberation Organization in 1964.
38:08So, there's your so-called Palestinian
38:10flag and its actual history. Its design
38:13is shared by Jordan, Sudan, Kuwait, and
38:16the former United Arab Republic. There
38:18is nothing uniquely Palestinian about
38:21it. And he shows some proof of that in
38:23an image on the next page. He says,
38:25"Unlike nations such as Lebanon or Syria
38:28which are which emerged with borders,
38:30capitals, constitutions, and functioning
38:32bureaucracies, the so-called Palestinian
38:34state has no historical parallel. The
38:37Palestinian identity as understood today
38:41was not the continuity of an ancient
38:43people but the product of defeat. A
38:46reactionary identity forged in the
38:48crucible of conflict defined not only by
38:52its own achievement. Sorry, defined not
38:54by its own achievements but by the
38:56opposition to Jewish sovereignty.
39:00So it shakes out of the Nagba is more or
39:02less the point. This is not to deny that
39:05Arab families lived in the land. Now,
39:07this is an important point. So, this is
39:10what I was saying before. People lived
39:12there. People that are Arabs lived
39:14there. Muslims lived there. But they
39:16lived there under Palestinian or sorry,
39:18under Ottoman rule, not Palestinian
39:20rule. That was my point. I messed it up
39:22completely. They lived there under
39:23Ottoman rule, not Palestinian rule.
39:26There was no Palestinian rule to speak
39:28of. So he says, "This is not to deny
39:31that Arab families lived in the land for
39:32centuries or to erase the memories of
39:34those who once dwelt in Hifa, Acre or
39:37Hebron. I bet you that's not pronounced
39:40acre,
39:41Acra, I don't know. But the lineage and
39:44the nostalgia do not constitute sorry
39:47but lineage and nostalgia do not
39:49constitute nationhood. Across the Middle
39:51East, millions of Arabs trace their
39:53ancestry to particular towns, villages,
39:55or tribes. Yet not every village becomes
39:58a state. The claim that quote Palestine
40:00was hijacked by Israel inverts reality.
40:04It was the Arab world that hijacked the
40:06label, transforming it from a neutral
40:08geographic term into a weaponized
40:10political narrative. Here lies the great
40:13irony. The Jews of mandatory Palestine
40:16fought against the British for national
40:18independence, much as Christians in
40:20Lebanon or Arabs in Syria resisted
40:23French colonialism. Those struggles
40:25culminated in the birth of a sovereign
40:28or of of sovereign states plural.
40:32But the Jewish victory alone among them
40:34was denied legitimacy by its neighbors.
40:36The Arab world accepted independence for
40:39Iraq, Syria, and Jordan, but not for
40:41Israel. Why? Because Israel was not
40:44Islamic.
40:46Period. The rejection of Jewish
40:49sovereignty was absolute. So there's a
40:52very clear point being made. All these
40:54other countries kind of forged in the
40:57same mess and same crucible. Nobody
40:59complained. The only complaint was about
41:01the Jewish state. And yes, that's partly
41:02because it's Jewish, but it's also in a
41:05very big way because it is straight up
41:07not Islamic. And that is in
41:10contradiction to their view that Islamic
41:12land once held is always only
41:16legitimately ruled by Muslims.
41:19Unable to reverse the facts on the
41:21ground, he writes, "Arab leaders turned
41:23instead to linguistic and historical
41:25appropriation. They seized the only
41:27label available, Palestine, and infused
41:29it with new meaning. What had been uh
41:33the British mandate's administrative
41:34shortorthhand became retroactively the
41:36name of an of an allegedly ancient
41:39people. The rejection of partition was
41:41reframed as resistance to displacement.
41:43The denial of peace was rebranded as a
41:46cry for justice. Thus, a convenient
41:48narrative was born. The Jews had stolen
41:50quote Palestine and the Palestinians
41:52simply wanted it back. On the ground
41:55there in Israel, you can actually see
41:57this kind of propaganda playing out. If
42:00you go anywhere basically that you can
42:02see areas controlled by the Palestinian
42:05Authority, you'll see these very
42:07bizarrel looking olive groves near
42:11Palestinian villages, but not really in
42:13them near them. and they're very um they
42:17don't look organic. Now, olive trees
42:19grow really slowly apparently. So, the
42:21deal is that they're mature trees. So,
42:23basically the Arab Palestinian people
42:25then claim we've been cultivating these
42:27trees for generations. We've been here
42:29forever. But in fact, what they're doing
42:31is going and digging up mature trees and
42:33planting them in groves that make it
42:35look like this. So, this idea of a retro
42:38and and that's very easily provable by
42:40the way. Uh, and so the idea of a
42:44retroactively created ancient history to
42:46the so-called Palestinian people is
42:48something that they work very hard at
42:50producing, but it's straight propaganda.
42:54Okay, moving on with Barmawi to the next
42:56section is titled nominalism, which is a
42:58really deep philosophical thing. He
43:00touches on that for about a paragraph.
43:02Uh, I'm not going to really worry about
43:04that too much. which I know some of you
43:05that listen to the podcast regularly are
43:07very interested in this and I will leave
43:09it to you to do whatever you want with
43:10that. But uh he's going to make a point.
43:13I think that point is important and I
43:15think it actually adds a lot of
43:17roundness and color to what we've just
43:18discussed so far. But just to summarize
43:21so far what he just said is that
43:23Palestine ain't real. Palestine is a
43:26political fiction that was created
43:28specifically to resist the idea of a
43:30Jewish state after they attempted to
43:32destroy it politically and economically
43:35and militarily and failed. And the they
43:38here are the various Arab states in the
43:40region. Well, not even just Arab, Egypt
43:42was involved too in the area. So they
43:45wanted to get rid of a sovereign Jewish
43:47state or a sovereign non-Islamic state
43:50in the region because it contradicts a
43:52fundamental worldview tenant of Islam.
43:56And this everybody in Islam who believes
43:58in reestablishing a caliphate and
44:00everybody in Islam who believes in the
44:02ummah, this broad Islamic empir imperial
44:06land, uh all would agree that the
44:10problem itself is a state outside of
44:12Islamic control on land that Muslims
44:15once controlled. And I reiterate, I
44:17think the walk is actually relevant.
44:19it's in the Hamas charter, but I hear
44:21that that's mostly lip service and that
44:24um it's dangerous to take too seriously
44:26some of these things um because you
44:28never actually know what they're saying
44:29is actually true and when it's not. All
44:32right, so this next section, nominalism,
44:35he says in the classical philosophical
44:37sense, nominalism is the idea that names
44:40nomina are not realities in themselves
44:43but mere labels attached to things. In
44:46other words, the name does not
44:47necessarily reflect an independent
44:50essence. It is a designation, a
44:52convenience, a construct. Applied
44:54politically, nominalism means the use of
44:56a name, symbol, or label, not because it
44:58represents an authentic reality, but
45:00because it is a useful tool for power,
45:02legitimacy, and manipulation. So, you
45:05can guess what he's going to do with
45:06this. Islamic movements, most
45:08prominently in the Muslim Brotherhood,
45:10founded in 1928,
45:12recognized that. So that's a Sunni
45:15project just for the people keeping
45:16square at home recognize. In fact, the
45:19Muslim Brotherhood is not just a Sunni
45:20project. It is a Salafist jihadist
45:23project. So these are specialized terms.
45:25Salafism is the belief that the first
45:28generations of Muslims including
45:30Muhammad and his first immediate
45:31successors had the only really authentic
45:34model for Islam. So they're looking
45:37back, I forgot the Arabic for this, but
45:38it's something all salaf or something
45:40like that. And so they're called
45:41Salafists. and they look it means
45:43basically like the originals or
45:45something like that. I forgot the I
45:46forgot the details. It doesn't really
45:47matter. That's what they're looking back
45:49to. And there are lots of branches of
45:51Salafism. Something like eight or nine.
45:53Nine, I think, is what Grock told me.
45:55They don't all agree. They're not all um
45:59they don't they're not all jihadis. And
46:01the ones that are jihadis don't always
46:03agree with each other either. The
46:04Wahhabis are Salafists and they're
46:06jihadis, but they don't agree with the
46:08Muslim Brotherhood. I think I get
46:10confused. I don't really care. I'm just
46:12trying to tell you there's more context
46:13here and you can feel free to dig into
46:14the rabbit hole and I eventually will
46:16and I'll eventually get it straight, but
46:18that's not today and that's okay. We're
46:20all learning together here. That's what
46:21we do on New Discourses. So anyway, he
46:24writes, "Islamic movements, most
46:26prominently the Muslim Brotherhood,
46:27founded in 1928, recognized that openly
46:30calling for the restoration of the
46:32caliphate would provoke repression from
46:35the new nationalist regimes. Yet they
46:38also saw in the issue of Palestine a
46:40divine opportunity to reignite the
46:42passions of the Umah under the guise of
46:45resistance. So Salafists believe big
46:47time in the ummah especially the jihadi
46:49ones. So the jihadist ones want to
46:51rebuild the um this is what their goals
46:53are. When we read from milestones by sed
46:56kupa he's also a salopist jihadist uh
47:00kind of in the Muslim Brotherhood vein.
47:02He in fact was kind of the intellectual
47:03like renewer of the Muslim Brotherhood
47:05project in the 1960s
47:08with his very Leninist structure of it.
47:11Um which is kind of important. He says
47:13so they saw in in in the issue of
47:15Palestine. Notice he didn't say in
47:17Palestine is a place. This is some very
47:19precise language he pulled. He says in
47:21the issue of Palestines they saw a
47:23divine opportunity to reignite the
47:24passions of the Uma under the guise of
47:27resistance. Now we're in the 1920s by
47:30this point. So this word resistance is a
47:34word that is going to already be infused
47:36with Soviet ideas. That's very important
47:39to have in the back of your head. By
47:41branding the fight for Palestine as a
47:44religious obligation, jihad against
47:46infidels who had desecrated sacred
47:48Islamic land, they could rally Muslims
47:50without directly challenging Arab
47:53nationalist governments. The Al Axa
47:56mosque was rebranded as the front line
47:59of Islamic dignity itself. So, what's Al
48:02Alaska? Alaska is the I think it means
48:05like the I don't know for sure. Um but I
48:07think it means like the furthest or the
48:09furthermost um mosque. It's like the one
48:12that's the most distant. It's the one
48:13that's the furthest out from where uh
48:15Muhammad was doing his business. So,
48:17it's the most distant mosque allegedly
48:19and it's the one that they placed on the
48:21Temple Mount uh in Jerusalem. Um which
48:24is also probably a retroactive maneuver
48:28in order to incorporate Jerusalem.
48:29There's a whole part in this book about
48:31that. Actually, it's right after the
48:32part I'm going to read here and I'm not
48:34going to get into it. Um, anyway, the
48:36Alaka Mosque was rebranded as the front
48:38line of Islamic dignity itself. So, that
48:40is the black domed or gray domed mosque
48:43on the temple mount next to the golden
48:45dome that is in fact itself the the dome
48:48on the rock. So, the golden dome is next
48:51to Ala Mosque. It is in Jerusalem which
48:53is in it's actually in East Jerusalem.
48:56So it's like right on the edge of um
48:59either Judea or Samaria or both maybe
49:01and their border. Okay. So anyways,
49:05we're also mosque front line of Islamic
49:07dignity itself. The emotional and
49:09theological power of Jerusalem amplified
49:12by the historical memory of Islamic
49:14conquests was weaponized. This is by the
49:16Muslim Brotherhood to reawaken religious
49:19fervor across populations being
49:21secularized from above. this that's the
49:25Arab nationalists are secularizing the
49:28Arab states and these guys are like oh
49:31hell no. So this is an internal um Arab
49:34Muslim conflict that's happening between
49:37like Muslim Brotherhood types who don't
49:40recognize these nationalist types as
49:42Muslims at all and these Arab
49:44nationalist types who do recognize
49:47themselves as Muslims and that want to
49:49modernize in many respects. So this is
49:52an internal battle that's going to spill
49:54out over kind of the whole frigin world.
49:56But it's worth noting that. Okay. So um
50:00this allowed this whole process that we
50:02just described. Barawi writes, allowed
50:04Islamic governments to galvanize mass
50:06support, recruit fighters, and preach
50:08militancy under the banner of quote
50:10Palestinian, while in reality laying the
50:13groundwork for a broader Islamic
50:15revival, a theological project aimed at
50:18re-islamizing
50:20a Muslim world that had been saturated
50:22with Western legal codes, secular
50:24education systems, and nationalist
50:26ideologies imposed to remold societies
50:28in the image of the West. So when you
50:31start talking about nationalism, even if
50:33it's a pan-Arab nationalism, you start
50:35talking about the different kingdoms on
50:36the Arabian Peninsula and so on, they
50:39have more or less, there's nothing in
50:41the Wasfalian nation state model that
50:43says you can't have a kingdom. Certainly
50:46there isn't. Everything at the time was
50:48kingdoms. So they are now breaking off
50:51into nations and looking for nationalist
50:53projects. And the Muslim Brotherhood as
50:55a theological project is like, "Oh, no,
50:57no, no, no. This is not what Muslims do.
50:59We look, we're Salafist. We look back to
51:01the earliest times in Islam. And when we
51:03look back to them, we see this idea of
51:05building the um one single giant Islamic
51:08empire that's ruled by a leader that is
51:10called the caiff or the califf that
51:12follows after uh and in the mold of
51:15Muhammad. Um and so they're like, we
51:19need to reisslamize Islam. This Muslim
51:23world is not Muslim at all. And you can
51:24read that very clearly in Kutba. And I'm
51:27sure we'll cover some of that in some of
51:29the podcasts. And I know I've talked
51:30about a little bit uh in those episodes
51:32about milestones that um the Muslim
51:35Brotherhood did does not believe that
51:37most Muslims are Muslim. So this is an
51:39extra challenge to this entire
51:42discussion by the way, which is that
51:44there are lots and lots and lots of
51:46Muslims in the world that don't
51:47subscribe to these particular Salophist
51:49views or into the uh clerical Shia views
51:54like the 12vers that follow Kmeni. Um,
51:57and none of these people necessarily
51:59agree. So, they don't necessarily There
52:01are lots of Muslims who don't
52:02necessarily agree with all this, but the
52:04problem is is that it's really hard to
52:06find where they will like stand up
52:08against it. Like, you just don't find it
52:09anywhere. And I don't know exactly why
52:11that is, except that these guys will
52:13definitely kill you. And they are
52:15actually also standing very firmly on
52:17the Quran and the hadiths in the Sunnah.
52:19Uh so they they have a lot of
52:22theological advantages in addition to
52:24having weapons that people are
52:26legitimately scared of. But anyway, he's
52:29saying that what's going on here is a
52:31theological project aimed at
52:33re-islamizing a Muslim world that had
52:36become saturated with Western legal
52:37codes, secular education systems, and
52:40nationalist ideologies imposed to remold
52:42societies in the image of the West,
52:44which these guys, the Muslim Brotherhood
52:46doesn't like that. So that in 1928
52:48that's what the Muslim Brotherhood's
52:49coming into existence to create. He says
52:52the Boleviks seek so that now we've got
52:55now we've got our communists right. So
52:56that's Lenin's party. The Bolevixs
52:59seeking to undermine British and French
53:01dominance attempted to export Marxism
53:04into the Arab world by framing
53:06anti-Zionism
53:07as part of the global struggle against
53:09imperialism. This by the way kind of
53:12worked. So, the anti-Zionist narratives
53:14are cooked up, strongly cooked up. The
53:18sentiment is there in the Middle East,
53:20as we're already hearing in the Arab
53:22world, but the narratives are cooked up
53:24in the Soviet Union, specifically as a
53:27way to undermine Western, aka British
53:29and French control,
53:31in the region. This has a lot to do with
53:33trying to do their expansion of the
53:35Soviet Union, realizing that the West is
53:37trying to constrain them and stop
53:38countries from going communist. So the
53:42bolevixs in the aim of undermining
53:44British and French dominance attempted
53:46to export Marxism into the Arab world by
53:49framing anti-sionism. So that's hatred
53:52or being against the idea of Israel
53:54having a sovereign state in ET Israel
53:57which is where it is today as part of
53:59the global struggle against imperialism.
54:01For the Soviet Union, Zionism was recast
54:04as a colonial enterprise imposed on the
54:06Arab masses by Western capitalism. So
54:10this is ultimately where you like you're
54:12seeing the seed planted by KGB basically
54:15to create all of what we call postc
54:17colonial theory some decades later being
54:20planted right here in the sandy soils of
54:23the uh Arabian peninsula. This narrative
54:26he tells us was formalized in common
54:29turn resolutions of the 1920s and 1930s
54:33which explicitly linked quote the
54:35Palestine question to the worldwide
54:38liberation of oppressed peoples. I went
54:40on my rabbit hole here. I actually
54:41literally didn't even finish the
54:42paragraph. I set the book down, looked
54:44into the communists and the Palestine
54:46question and came back to the book and I
54:47spent an entire day reading um things
54:50from the 80s, things from earlier, even
54:52looking for some of these documents from
54:54the 1920s and 1930s talking about the
54:56Palestine question. So certainly by the
54:581970s and 1980s, they're using
55:00explicitly the phrase the Palestine
55:03question in Marxist and Soviet
55:06literature. In 1984, they wrote this
55:08really long explanation of the Palestine
55:11question. In fact, it's a book, but most
55:13of the book is documents like resolution
55:15181 from the United Nations from 1947
55:18and so on. But the writing, the forward
55:20is 30ome pages of the Palestine question
55:23from the perspective of the Soviet Union
55:26mid 1980s. So, we're at the end of the
55:28Soviet Union, but still Soviet Union.
55:31and it reads exactly like the
55:34you would hear from any campus flyer or
55:36protest today to almost the letter. The
55:40only thing they do is mention Soviet
55:42Union a bunch of times that you wouldn't
55:43hear in today's stuff. It is almost to
55:46the letter the same narratives and I
55:48thought that was extremely interesting.
55:50So here we have this massive infusion
55:52that lasts through the majority of the
55:5420th century the entire middle part 60
55:56years of the middle part of the 20th
55:58century. Soviet infusion into the Arab
56:00world and the broader world around it in
56:02terms of the so-called Palestine
56:04question. Barmawi tells us Soviet
56:06propaganda consistently depicted Jews
56:08and Palestine not as a people returning
56:11to their ancestral homeland
56:14but as agents of British imperialism. So
56:17there is why you will not see the left
56:21see Jews going to ETS Israel or to
56:24Israel itself as the indigenous peoples
56:27coming back. So that you know I hear
56:29this all the time. Oh the left supports
56:30indigen indigenity. They were they want
56:33indigenous peoples. Well the indigenous
56:34peoples and then the left is like no
56:36you're not. The Palestinians are. And
56:38that was straight Soviet propaganda that
56:40poisoned generations of left-wing
56:43thinkers both high and low in their
56:45status in the uh in the west. And that's
56:48your explanation. They were recast not
56:50as the indigenous people that that was a
56:52false narrative that they're not the
56:54same people. Whatever it took, these
56:55were Soviet narratives that were fed not
56:58only to Arabs but to Westerners to
57:00convince them that no, no, no, this is
57:02just British and American later
57:05originally British later American
57:07colonialism and imperialism marching
57:10into the area which was a Soviet
57:12operational point, a strategic
57:14operational point because control of the
57:16Middle East is so central to the Soviet
57:18Union success because of its access to
57:20warm water ports, later oil and so on.
57:23Um, and but not to mention the
57:25crossroads of the of the kind of the the
57:28Middle East or as as Dugan calls it, the
57:30world island, which is Europe, Asia, and
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58:46So, after 1948, Bermawi tells us the
58:49USSR entrenched this rhetoric further,
58:51supplying Arab regimes with weapons and
58:54saturating the region with ideological
58:56literature that cast Israel as nothing
58:58more than an outpost of Western
59:00exploitation. Having read John Paul
59:02Sarter uh on this coming from the 1950s
59:05and 1960s all the way up to uh his
59:08forward for wretched the wretched of the
59:10earth written by France Fannon in 1962 I
59:14can see very clearly um this exact same
59:16mentality. Sartra spent a lot of time
59:18actually in the so-called Palestinian
59:20context feeding these narratives,
59:22bringing these narratives actually and a
59:24lot of Western communist literature into
59:29um the the Arab world and was firmly on
59:32the side of the Arabs. And if you read
59:34his forward to the wretched of the
59:36earth, as I've read parts of it uh on
59:38the podcast here before, if you read
59:40that long forward, you can see that it
59:43is actually what Douglas Murray
59:46called in description the strange death
59:49of Europe. It is the plan to basically
59:52have the colonies, whether it's Middle
59:54East, whether it's North and Central
59:56Africa, whether it's South Africa, and
59:58whether it's India, come and basically
1:00:00recolonize Pakistan. come and recolonize
1:00:02and take over England uh and France and
1:00:05so on and Europe and in retribution for
1:00:09colonization through the uh you know
1:00:1219th and early 20th centuries and that
1:00:14they would that Europe would deserve
1:00:16this and that they should not fight it.
1:00:19They should just embrace it which seems
1:00:20to be what a lot of their leaders have
1:00:22done which I find absolutely staggering.
1:00:24So anyway there's a lot of I'm just
1:00:26drawing connections here. Um, like I
1:00:28said, this is a very I'm adding a lot to
1:00:30a much simpler presentation here. Um,
1:00:34where did I leave off here? Okay. In
1:00:35doing so, Burmawi says the Soviets used
1:00:39quote, "Palestine is a convenient
1:00:40rallying cry through which Marxism could
1:00:43penetrate Arab societies under the guise
1:00:44of anti-colonial solidarity." I'm just
1:00:47going to add that he also that the USSR
1:00:49also Soviets also bent the mind of the
1:00:52western left
1:00:54in terms of this cause which explains
1:00:56their long de they did not recently take
1:01:00up the Palestinian cause like after
1:01:01black lives matter kind of burned out.
1:01:03They were doing the Palestinian cause
1:01:05decades ago decade in the 50s in the 60s
1:01:09they were doing especially by the 60s
1:01:10they were doing this and certainly you
1:01:12talk you read like Angela Davis um who
1:01:15was Herbert Marcusa's PhD student she
1:01:17was she ran for vice president in the
1:01:19communist party USA she lost she said
1:01:20that the reason was the communist party
1:01:22USA was too conservative so she left it
1:01:24for something more radical she becomes
1:01:26like a godmother for the thing that
1:01:27becomes called intersectionality
1:01:30um hardened communist still deep deep
1:01:33deep in the prison abolition, Marxist
1:01:35prison abolition movement, long lifelong
1:01:38communist, tons of work in Cuba, etc.
1:01:40And she said that she was radicalized
1:01:41for the first time in the classroom with
1:01:42Marcusa and the second time in Palestine
1:01:45where she was also taught many of her
1:01:48methods of active resistance. Um, so
1:01:51this has been a not just the Arab
1:01:53sensibilities that Burmaui is telling us
1:01:55about being warped by the Soviet Union,
1:01:58but also the western left being
1:02:01completely warped by these exact same
1:02:03lines, including, as he calls it,
1:02:06antic-colonial solidarity, which became
1:02:08known as postc colonial studies after
1:02:10the so-called Palestinian American
1:02:12Edward Sed wrote orientalism in 1979 and
1:02:16basically kind of took that ball and ran
1:02:19with it while also postmodernizing it in
1:02:22the the the frame the deconstructive
1:02:23frame of Michelle Fuko which you can
1:02:26read more about in um cynical theories
1:02:28which I wrote back in 2020 with Helen
1:02:30Pluckros. Back to Bramawi he writes Arab
1:02:33dictators had their own incentives to
1:02:35inflate the Palestinian issue. So okay,
1:02:38Soviet Union has interests but so did
1:02:41the Arab dictators. regimes that had
1:02:44failed to deliver prosperity or freedom
1:02:46discovered the political gold mine of
1:02:48externalizing failure, right? The
1:02:50standard kind of Marxist thing now is
1:02:53being picked up by these Arab tools in
1:02:56the name of Palestine. He says if Israel
1:02:59could be blamed for poverty, tyranny,
1:03:01military defeats, and stagnation, then
1:03:03corrupt elites could continue ruling
1:03:05with impunity.
1:03:08Story as old as time, by the way, right
1:03:10there. Israel became the scapegoat that
1:03:12allowed Arab rulers to survive. The key
1:03:15to sustaining that narrative was not
1:03:17merely the existence of Israel, but the
1:03:20perpetual misery of Palestinian
1:03:22refugees. And now we're going to hit on
1:03:23an extraordinarily important point
1:03:25because we're, oh, the Palestinians. Oh,
1:03:27the Palestinians are so oppressed. Who's
1:03:29oppressing them?
1:03:31And the answer is not Israel. The answer
1:03:34was never Israel. The key to sustaining
1:03:38that narrative from the corrupt Arab
1:03:40rulers who wanted to use Israel and the
1:03:42so-called Palestinian cause to maintain
1:03:44their corrupt power, he writes, was not
1:03:48merely the existence of Israel with its
1:03:52Muslim imaginary uh running with the
1:03:56UMA, etc., like we've discussed, but
1:03:58also the perpetual misery of Palestinian
1:04:01refugees. Rather than resettling them,
1:04:04Arab governments deliberately kept
1:04:06Palestinians in camps, denying them
1:04:09citizenship, property rights, and
1:04:11economic integration. They were kept
1:04:13poor to remain politically useful. By
1:04:17contrast, Israel absorbed some 850,000
1:04:20Jewish refugee refugees who were
1:04:22expelled from Arab lands, granting them
1:04:25citizenship and integrating them into
1:04:27society. No camps, no intergenerational
1:04:30victimhood. Palestinians were not
1:04:32victims of Israel, but of Arab regimes
1:04:35who weaponized them for political
1:04:38theater. The so-called quote right of
1:04:40return was never meant as a solution. It
1:04:44was a perpetual talking point, a tool to
1:04:47delay peace and sustain hatred.
1:04:52No leader exemplified this nominal use
1:04:54of Palestine better than Egypt's Gamal
1:04:56Abdal Nasser. Now just as a historical
1:04:59point, Nasser is also the one who hanged
1:05:02Sahed Kutba for being too radical in
1:05:041966.
1:05:06Nasser, he writes, was willing to
1:05:08explore peace, even reaching out to
1:05:10Israel in 1956 through an American
1:05:12Quaker intermediary. But when his
1:05:15requests for Western arms were rejected,
1:05:18he turned to the Soviet Union and
1:05:20transformed himself into the icon of
1:05:23Arab anti-Zionism.
1:05:25That's a very interesting sentence. For
1:05:28Nasser, Palestine was not a humanitarian
1:05:30concern, but a vehicle for unifying the
1:05:32Arab world under his brand of socialist
1:05:36nationalism. That's a useful phrase, by
1:05:38the way, if we don't want to call the
1:05:39woke right national socialists.
1:05:41Socialist nationalism is 100% what
1:05:43they're selling, just as an aside. So
1:05:46Nasser's political genius was in
1:05:48reframing defeat as heroism. Even after
1:05:51the crushing loss of the 6-day war in
1:05:541967, which ended on June 8th around the
1:05:58on the same day as the strike on the USS
1:06:01Liberty that we always hear about from
1:06:03the Gropers, he retained support because
1:06:06he had quote fought for Palestine. So he
1:06:09loses the six- day war to Israel
1:06:11viciously in 1967.
1:06:13Egypt is crushed in this war and he
1:06:16isn't delegitimized here in 1967.
1:06:19Instead, he retains legitimacy because
1:06:21he's a hero who was fighting for the
1:06:23cause of Palestine. Results did not
1:06:26matter. Appearances did. Other Arab
1:06:29leaders quickly learned the lesson.
1:06:31Adopting Palestine as a cause was the
1:06:34shest way to suppress disscent at home
1:06:36while posturing as revolutionaries
1:06:38abroad. While Nasser hijacked Palestine
1:06:42to construct a secular pan-Arab
1:06:44identity, his rival, King Fisol of Saudi
1:06:47Arabia weaponized it in religious terms.
1:06:50Threatened by Nasser's republicanism and
1:06:52the appeal of Arab socialism,
1:06:55Fisol feared that pan-Arab nationalism
1:06:58would sweep away monarchies. So here you
1:07:00have the king of Saudi Arabia who runs a
1:07:02country called Saudi Arabia that's now
1:07:04getting rich off its balls on oil money.
1:07:06he would like to keep that thing as a
1:07:08monarchical nation that he's in charge
1:07:10of. However, now Nasser is pushing this
1:07:14pan-Arab
1:07:15uh idea where there's going to kind of
1:07:16be like one big panarab means big all of
1:07:20Arab of of the Arabian Peninsula is
1:07:22going to work as kind of like one big
1:07:23Arab nation. And guess what that means?
1:07:26Saudi Arabia is not its own nation
1:07:27anymore. So he's like, "Uh-oh, that's
1:07:29not going to work. We have to do
1:07:31something different. We have to use some
1:07:34kind of religious thing to counter it."
1:07:36And that's what he says. Bmawi writes to
1:07:38counter this pan-Arab nationalism that
1:07:40might sweep away the monarchies. He
1:07:42turned to the very Islamic movements
1:07:43that Nasser had repressed. Which one?
1:07:47Who did he hang? Say KBA. So now you
1:07:50have the Saudis reaching out to the
1:07:53Muslim Brotherhood that Nasser was
1:07:55trying to suppress and destroy in the
1:07:56name of a panarab program um in the name
1:08:00of Palestine. Nonetheless, this is all
1:08:03very complicated history. So he reaches
1:08:05out to the various Islamic movements
1:08:06that Nasser had repressed. The Muslim
1:08:08Brotherhood crushed in Egypt in Egypt
1:08:11sorry found refuge and financing in
1:08:13Saudi Arabia. The decisive shift came
1:08:16after the 6-day war. At the cartoon
1:08:19summit of 1967, Nasser arrived
1:08:21humiliated, militarily defeated, and
1:08:23economically desperate. Fisol, now
1:08:26ascendant and backed by oil wealth, held
1:08:28the leverage in exchange for Saudi
1:08:30financial aid to rescue Egypt. Fisol
1:08:33demanded the release of imprisoned
1:08:34Muslim Brotherhood leaders, not Kutba
1:08:37who had been hanged the year before.
1:08:39Nasser weaker weakened and cornered
1:08:41agreed. By freeing the Brotherhood,
1:08:43Fisel introduced a powerful Islamic
1:08:45current into Arab politics. Somewhere in
1:08:48this is the Saudi Arabian streak of
1:08:50Salafism called Wahhabism or Wahhabis. I
1:08:54don't know exactly how that fits in, but
1:08:56it is distinct from um the Muslim
1:08:58Brotherhood in some way or another. And
1:09:00again, this is all a little more
1:09:02complicated than I understand so far.
1:09:04Turns out that Muslims, I won't say like
1:09:06orcs, don't get along with one another
1:09:08very well when they're different tribes.
1:09:11I'm just going to say that. Anyway, this
1:09:14was the turning point, Burmawi tells us.
1:09:16With Saudi wealth behind them, Islamic
1:09:18movements flourished. Mosques, schools,
1:09:21media, and charities across the region
1:09:23preached a theologically charged version
1:09:25of anti-Zionism. So that becomes now
1:09:28anti-ionism, anti-Israel becomes the
1:09:31glue holding together the Islamic
1:09:33movement after this long turbulent first
1:09:36half of the 20th century, the first
1:09:37twothirds really where Arab nationalism
1:09:40had failed, re-islamization
1:09:43succeeded, Barawi writes. He says it
1:09:45reshaped societies from the inside out.
1:09:48Secular modernist legacies of British
1:09:50and French rule were erased. Arab
1:09:53identity was no longer defined by
1:09:54language, law, or territory, but by
1:09:56allegiance to Islamic struggle. Now,
1:10:00Islamic struggle in Arabic is jihad.
1:10:05And remember that in Kutba's book,
1:10:07Milestones, the longest chapter by like
1:10:10twice over is the chapter on jihad. Uh,
1:10:13and Palestine, he tells us, became the
1:10:16vessel through which this ideological
1:10:18order was preached and enforced.
1:10:21Even the Shia world trans. So now we're
1:10:24in a whole Whoops. We were in Sunni. Now
1:10:26we're in Shia. We're in a different sect
1:10:28of Islam. Very theologically different.
1:10:31They don't like each other. They kill
1:10:33each other. They kill each other as
1:10:35apostates as Muslims only can. But I
1:10:39digress. So now we're shifting a little
1:10:41bit of gears. Even the Shia world
1:10:44traditionally distant from Sunni causes
1:10:47was swept into this current after Iran's
1:10:501979 re uh revolution Ayatollah Kmeni
1:10:54declared the last Friday of Ramadan to
1:10:56be aluds day making the liberation of
1:11:00Jerusalem a pillar of his foreign
1:11:02policy.
1:11:05Through proxies like Hezbollah, Iran
1:11:07embedded itself in the Palestinian
1:11:10cause, not because it loved
1:11:11Palestinians, but because it recognized
1:11:13that the road to Arab hearts was paved
1:11:16with anti-Zionism.
1:11:19Thus, Palestine became the single thread
1:11:21binding together otherwise
1:11:23irreconcilable ideologies, secular Arab
1:11:26nationalism, Sunni revivalism, Shia
1:11:30theocracy, and tribal monarchies, all
1:11:33converging in opposition to Israel as
1:11:37what? As a sovereign state outside of
1:11:40Islamic control. The next section is
1:11:43called hijacking Jerusalem. I'm not
1:11:45going to read the whole thing. We're
1:11:46going to wrap this up, but I want to
1:11:47read the first bit. It says, "The
1:11:50Islamic hijacking of the land of Israel
1:11:53did not begin in the 20th century, nor
1:11:55was it merely a reaction to Zionism or
1:11:57the modern state of Israel. Its roots
1:12:00reach deep into the earliest years of
1:12:02Islam's imperial expansion when
1:12:05theological manipulations and political
1:12:07opportunism transformed Jerusalem into
1:12:10an ideological flash point. Long before
1:12:12the Palestinian cause was manufactured
1:12:14as a unifying symbol of Arab and Islamic
1:12:17grievance, the biblical homeland,
1:12:19specifically Jerusalem, had already been
1:12:22appropriated by Islamic rulers seeking
1:12:24legitimacy, power, and dominance within
1:12:27their fractured world. And he goes all
1:12:29the way back to the Rashadun Khalif Umar
1:12:32Iben Al- Katab in 637
1:12:36to make this case. Um, if I remember
1:12:38right, there was one more paragraph I
1:12:40wanted to read from this section um
1:12:43about all of the fighting. Uh, the
1:12:46result was devastatingly effective. I
1:12:48think there's just think I messed up.
1:12:50We're going to read two, but we're
1:12:51three. We'll see. The result was
1:12:52devastatingly effective. Within a
1:12:54generation, devotion to Jerusalem had
1:12:56been cemented not through revelation,
1:12:58but through political necessity. A
1:13:00sacred geography had been invented, and
1:13:02once invented, it could not be undone
1:13:04without existential crisis. The memory
1:13:06of the Jewish temple was buried and in
1:13:08its place a Muslim narrative took root
1:13:10declaring Jerusalem to have always
1:13:12belonged to Islam.
1:13:15Uh Abda al- Malik did not have to
1:13:17fabricate this out of nothing. Islam's
1:13:19superessionist theology. That's an
1:13:22interesting phrase, isn't it, guys?
1:13:24Already lent itself to the appropriation
1:13:26of Jewish and Christian symbols. He
1:13:28merely weaponized it to solve his
1:13:30political problem again and again and
1:13:32again. You hear this story, by the way.
1:13:34For centuries, this myth laid dormant,
1:13:36only to reawaken with the rise of modern
1:13:39Zionism. As Jews began returning to
1:13:42their ancestral homeland in the late
1:13:4419th century, the Islamic imagination
1:13:46received its old revived, sorry, its old
1:13:49claim with renewed intensity. It was the
1:13:52establishment of the state of Israel in
1:13:541948 and especially Israel's capture of
1:13:58Jerusalem in the six- day war of 1967
1:14:01which they call the Nakah by the way
1:14:03that reignited the second great
1:14:05hijacking of the city. The loss of the
1:14:08Temple Mount to Jewish sovereignty was
1:14:10not merely a military defeat but an ide
1:14:13sorry a theological crisis striking at
1:14:16the core of centuries of Islamic
1:14:18appropriation. If Jews could reclaim the
1:14:21very ground Islam had declared its own,
1:14:23then Islam's claim of supremacy was
1:14:26exposed as fragile.
1:14:29And so the appropriation deepened. Al
1:14:31Axa became the rallying cry of the 20th
1:14:34century. Islamic movements from Hamas
1:14:36and Gaza to Hezbollah and Lebanon.
1:14:38Jerusalem was involved uh invoked,
1:14:41sorry, as the epicenter of grievance and
1:14:43jihad. Sermons thundered with
1:14:45accusations of Jews defiling Alaka. Even
1:14:48though Israel uniquely preserved Muslim
1:14:51access to the site, facts mattered
1:14:54little. The myth was everything. Alaka
1:14:56was transformed into a symbol not only
1:14:58of lost sovereignty, but of apocalyptic
1:15:01destiny. Both Sunni and Shia
1:15:03esquetologies invested Jerusalem with
1:15:06end times significance. the Motti would
1:15:09arise, Jesus would return, and the final
1:15:12battle would be fought there against the
1:15:15Jews. And he goes on, but I'm not going
1:15:17to read more of it. I encourage you to
1:15:19get the book. The book is Islam, Israel
1:15:21in the West, a former Muslims analysis
1:15:23by Danny Burmawi, who is the CEO of an
1:15:26entity called the Ideological Defense
1:15:28Institute, IDI. That is a good summary.
1:15:31It's a little longer than I meant to
1:15:33take here, but that is a very, very good
1:15:34summary of the Palestinian cause. And
1:15:39just as that's a good summary of the
1:15:41Palestinian cause, this broader story
1:15:43that he tells in this book that explains
1:15:45what's going on both with Islam as a uh
1:15:48worldview or set of worldviews in some
1:15:51sense and its ambitions and its
1:15:53relevance to what's going on in Israel,
1:15:55its views on Israel, the propaganda that
1:15:57we're fed here in the West, its views on
1:15:59America, its views on the West itself.
1:16:01Almost the rest of the book isn't even
1:16:02about Israel for for the most part. It's
1:16:04about the West as a broader project. um
1:16:07and Islam's fundamental incompatibility
1:16:11and dislike for it and desire to destroy
1:16:13it. I recommend you pick it up and read
1:16:15it. Um is it's Islam, sorry, Islam,
1:16:18Israel in the West, a former Muslims
1:16:20analysis by Danny Burmawi. Uh and I,
1:16:24like I said, I'll put some links, but
1:16:25you now have heard what the Palestinian
1:16:27cause is really about, at least from his
1:16:29analysis. If you look up on Grock or you
1:16:31go read some literature that's not
1:16:33Palestinian
1:16:35or Soviet, you'll find the same story.
1:16:37If you go read the Soviets, you hear
1:16:39what any leftist idiot or on
1:16:41campus will tell you that makes no
1:16:43sense. This actually makes sense. This
1:16:45aligns with all of the relevant history
1:16:48um and is is solidly grounded. So, I
1:16:52urge you to take very seriously this
1:16:53analysis. I think this analysis of that
1:16:55situation is largely correct. Um, I'm
1:16:58sure there are some Jewish listeners who
1:17:00can find some details that they would
1:17:01like to add and feel free somewhere in
1:17:04comments or whatever. Um, but yeah, so
1:17:07the Palestinian cause is fake. That's
1:17:10the story. The Palestinian cause is a
1:17:12flatout rejection of the idea of
1:17:14sovereignty, not just of Jews, yes, of
1:17:17Jews, but not just of Jews, of
1:17:19sovereignty at all in the region that is
1:17:23not Islamic. I don't think it would be
1:17:25as heated, but it would be heated if
1:17:27there were a solid Christian state of
1:17:30Lebanon reestablished. There's a special
1:17:32hatred for Jews. It's actually I think I
1:17:34think Danny covers it. He may not cover
1:17:36it. Um but the special hatred of Jews
1:17:38boils down to the fact that uh Muhammad
1:17:41when he first came up with all of this
1:17:43crap uh went from I guess Mecca to
1:17:46Medina and he went to the Jews there and
1:17:48he was like look at this great
1:17:50revelation that I have and they laughed
1:17:51at him. And so rather than originally
1:17:54they all prayed facing not Mecca but
1:17:56rather facing Jerusalem. And he was
1:17:57trying to create like basically like um
1:18:00a spin-off religion uh a new revelation
1:18:04or whatever uh for for Judaism with some
1:18:07Christian elements. And they laughed at
1:18:09him and were like this is total
1:18:11bollocks. Anybody who actually knows the
1:18:13Jewish scriptures would reject this.
1:18:14We're Jews. We're not changing and you
1:18:16don't get to just change our religion
1:18:17and you're literally nobody predicted
1:18:19you and like whatever. So, he got really
1:18:21mad at Jews and their hatred for Jews is
1:18:23particularly deep uh and powerful as a
1:18:27result of what amounts to Muhammad's
1:18:29humiliation in trying to pass one over
1:18:31on Jews who saw straight through them
1:18:33because they actually know their
1:18:34tradition. Um
1:18:37any illusions to modern situations that
1:18:40you might make are totally on your own.
1:18:42Uh I won't go there. But at any rate,
1:18:45the Palestinian cause uh is is is is a
1:18:48contrivance against sovereignty in the
1:18:50region that's not Islamic and especially
1:18:53against Jewish because its relevance
1:18:56within uh Islamic uh history and
1:18:59theology. There you go. Is that when you
1:19:03start to understand this stuff, this is
1:19:04kind of my last comment. When you start
1:19:06to understand this stuff, it actually
1:19:08starts to get you mad at all of this
1:19:10ultimately mostly, not just Islamic, but
1:19:13largely Soviet KGB contrived and derived
1:19:17propaganda that we're being fed here and
1:19:19have been fed here in the West about
1:19:21what's going on there, which up until
1:19:23basically October 8th, 2023, virtually
1:19:26nobody on the right wing believed at
1:19:29all. It was a almost uniquely
1:19:31dirt leftist thing to believe any of
1:19:34this. But since October 8th, 2023,
1:19:36because of people like Candace Owens and
1:19:37increasingly Tucker Carlson and these
1:19:39woke cry idiots and like whatever other
1:19:42the Russians who seem to have infused
1:19:44this heavily, this anti-war uh mentality
1:19:48that's been exploited now a large swath
1:19:50of the American rightwing believes this
1:19:53exact same Soviet Islamic red green
1:19:57alliance contrivance that is ultimately
1:19:59against Western civilization. Um, and
1:20:02that contrivance is called the
1:20:04Palestinian cause. Whether you cut it as
1:20:06the left does as pro Palestine or you
1:20:09cut it as the right does as anti-Israel
1:20:12and some Americaon kind of d uh
1:20:16dialogue. Um, it's the same thing. And
1:20:21ultimately what it is is
1:20:23largely Soviet,
1:20:26largely Islamist re-is Islamization
1:20:29um like the Muslim Brotherhood
1:20:32propaganda designed to to undermine
1:20:35Western civilization in favor of the
1:20:38Islamic model of of nations and and
1:20:43basically geopolitical organization. And
1:20:45so like don't do that. Like come on
1:20:49guys. up until literally we used to say
1:20:51if you had like all these thoughts up
1:20:53until like five years ago and then you
1:20:55suddenly changed all your views you're
1:20:57probably a leftist. Well guys if you had
1:20:59all these views about you know Israel
1:21:02being on the between Israel and like
1:21:06the caliphate [music] that Israel is
1:21:08probably the good guy and a good ally
1:21:10for America and then suddenly it all
1:21:12changed following October 8th 2023.
1:21:15you might be a leftist or woke or a
1:21:18useful idiot to those um those
1:21:20narratives. [music] And like I said,
1:21:22Burmawi in this book lays out that
1:21:25narrative construction and the real
1:21:27history very clearly. I encourage you to
1:21:29read it. And [music] I also encourage
1:21:30you to get off the anti-Israel hate.
1:21:33Stop being a useful idiot to Soviets and
1:21:37Islamists [music] because it's not going
1:21:38to help your country. You're not helping
1:21:40anything. you are a leftist or one of
1:21:43their tools and you need to stop it if
1:21:45that's you. If it's not you, thank you
1:21:48for having a brain. Share [music] this
1:21:49with somebody who's lost theirs.
1:21:56[music]
1:22:03[music]
1:22:08>> [music]
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