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  1. 0:00Why do we get married? How long has
  2. 0:02marriage existed? It's always been
  3. 0:04celebrated the same way. You don't know
  4. 0:06how much I had to read to make this
  5. 0:07video, so right off the bat I'm asking
  6. 0:09if you can give me a like, because
  7. 0:11today we're going to talk about the
  8. 0:13origin of marriage in the West and how
  9. 0:15this institution changed the way people
  10. 0:17love each other. Hello, my lanteris. To
  11. 0:19think about this video, I suggest you
  12. 0:21imagine a trip back in time. It's the
  13. 0:24year 100 BC in ancient Rome. Two people
  14. 0:27love each other and want to celebrate
  15. 0:29this act of love in some way. A man and
  16. 0:31a woman are going to live together, but
  17. 0:34there's no ceremony, no priest, no
  18. 0:36registry, no papers to sign, no white
  19. 0:39dress. They're married simply because
  20. 0:42they want to be married. According to
  21. 0:44Roman law, that's enough. To be married
  22. 0:47, you simply had to want to be married.
  23. 0:50The day one of the two wants to break
  24. 0:51that union, they simply break it off
  25. 0:53and that's it. There's no divorce, no
  26. 0:56trial, they simply separate. That was a
  27. 0:59marriage. Now let's go back, for
  28. 1:01example, to the 11th century somewhere
  29. 1:03in Western Europe. A man and a woman
  30. 1:05who love each other are in the forest
  31. 1:07alone, with no one else present, and
  32. 1:09they tell each other that they want to
  33. 1:10be married, that they are a married
  34. 1:12couple. Again, there is no priest, no
  35. 1:14witness, no paper to sign, no party,
  36. 1:17but they are married. For the Catholic
  37. 1:20Church at that time, those two people
  38. 1:22lost in a forest with no witnesses are
  39. 1:24married simply because they said their
  40. 1:26vows out loud. That was also a marriage
  41. 1:29. Now let's go to the year 1600, to
  42. 1:31what is now Peru. A man is brought from
  43. 1:34Mexico as a slave and when he arrives
  44. 1:37in Lima he decides to go to court to
  45. 1:39claim that he was brought against his
  46. 1:41will and that he should not have been
  47. 1:44transferred because he was legally
  48. 1:46married in Mexico and slavery was above
  49. 1:49marriage. He was married in the church
  50. 1:52and said that it was not fair that
  51. 1:54slavery should be above marriage. That
  52. 1:56was also a marriage, but later in the
  53. 1:58video we will see how it went. These
  54. 2:00three scenes do not share protocol,
  55. 2:02forms, temporal location, or
  56. 2:04geographical location; but they are
  57. 2:05about three marriages, three very
  58. 2:07different marriages that make us think
  59. 2:09that there was no single way to get
  60. 2:11married throughout history and that, in
  61. 2:13reality, the question is poorly
  62. 2:15formulated because we cannot trace the
  63. 2:17origin of marriage. We should ask
  64. 2:20ourselves how the institution or
  65. 2:22tradition of two people getting married
  66. 2:24was transformed. So, throughout this
  67. 2:27video, we are going to see how this
  68. 2:29institution was transformed and we are
  69. 2:31going to see something that blows my
  70. 2:33mind, which is: in the same century in
  71. 2:35which romantic love was understood as
  72. 2:37the criterion for getting married, it
  73. 2:39was decided to prohibit people from
  74. 2:41marrying whomever they wanted. But
  75. 2:44anyway, let's start by tracing the
  76. 2:46early origins of what we understand as
  77. 2:49marriage. You've probably heard a story
  78. 2:54about the origin of marriage,
  79. 2:56especially from the Marxist tradition,
  80. 2:58which goes something like the one I'm
  81. 3:00going to say next, greatly simplified:
  82. 3:02that, first of all, humans lived in a
  83. 3:04state that could be described as
  84. 3:05promiscuous, where the way in which we
  85. 3:07should relate to each other was not
  86. 3:09institutionalized. Then came a
  87. 3:12supposedly matriarchal stage where
  88. 3:14women made the decisions, where a
  89. 3:16mother goddess was worshiped. This
  90. 3:18wasn't the case, but anyway, I have to
  91. 3:20tell you the story. And then with
  92. 3:22agriculture and the emergence of
  93. 3:24private property, men needed to start
  94. 3:26organizing inheritance and so they
  95. 3:28imposed the rule of monogamy in family
  96. 3:30ties to establish how they were going
  97. 3:32to organize property based on the bond
  98. 3:34between mother and father and that's
  99. 3:36supposedly where patriarchy was born.
  100. 3:40Well, this is a 19 th-century theory
  101. 3:42that is no longer accepted, but it was
  102. 3:45the traditional explanation for the
  103. 3:47origin of monogamy or marriage, where
  104. 3:49it was understood that it was the way
  105. 3:51to organize society at a time when
  106. 3:53family structures required an order
  107. 3:55based on how they were going to
  108. 3:56distribute goods in a supposed
  109. 3:58inheritance. A theory that is quite
  110. 4:01particular because it assumes that
  111. 4:02matriarchy is like a primitive way of
  112. 4:04organizing patriarchy in a more modern
  113. 4:06and civilized way. But well, we are not
  114. 4:08going to go into details because this
  115. 4:10is not just for you to think about.
  116. 4:13This theory, as I say, was developed
  117. 4:15towards the middle and end of the 19th
  118. 4:17century by European intellectuals of
  119. 4:19the time who, of course, had a highly
  120. 4:21evolutionary view of humanity. We saw
  121. 4:24this in the video that came out last
  122. 4:26week about prehistory, where they
  123. 4:27thought that the least organized or
  124. 4:29ancient societies were primitive; that
  125. 4:31supposedly, over the years those
  126. 4:33societies were going to become more
  127. 4:35complex and were going to reach a more
  128. 4:37advanced and more civilized stage,
  129. 4:38which was the present one. A view that
  130. 4:41today, of course, we reject precisely
  131. 4:43because it is Eurocentric, biologistic,
  132. 4:46evolutionist, but that at that time was
  133. 4:48, let's say, what was thought in the
  134. 4:51academic world. In that context where
  135. 4:54different academics and different
  136. 4:56thinkers tried to find an origin for
  137. 4:58the institutions in which they lived.
  138. 5:01Federich Engels, a very important
  139. 5:03intellectual at the time, very close to
  140. 5:05Marx, with a very close and very
  141. 5:07strange bond because, well, later if
  142. 5:09you want to Google Engels Marx and you
  143. 5:11will see that there is a bond of
  144. 5:12friends maintaining other friends, but
  145. 5:14that is a topic for another video. But
  146. 5:17anyway, Engels, a very important
  147. 5:19thinker of the time, develops a
  148. 5:21hypothesis about what is the origin of
  149. 5:23the traditional family, of marriage and
  150. 5:25so on. In his thesis, The Origin of the
  151. 5:28Family, Private Property and the State,
  152. 5:30which is a key book, let's say, for
  153. 5:32Marxist thought, of course set in the
  154. 5:34late 19th century. Today we can make
  155. 5:36many criticisms of it, but for its time
  156. 5:38it was something quite novel. It
  157. 5:40introduced questions that until then
  158. 5:41had not been present, let's say, in the
  159. 5:43discussions. And in that thesis is
  160. 5:45where he tries to explain the origin of
  161. 5:47the monogamous, patriarchal family and
  162. 5:49so on at that time, somewhat with the
  163. 5:51story I told you a moment ago. What he
  164. 5:54established is that the entire family,
  165. 5:56the entire institution of the family
  166. 5:58and so on, is organized based on
  167. 5:59private property. The State organizes
  168. 6:02it precisely with the question of
  169. 6:04inheritance and ownership of goods in
  170. 6:05mind. And fundamentally the
  171. 6:08subordination of women within that
  172. 6:10family has its origin in private
  173. 6:11property, which is something truly
  174. 6:13novel, important, but well, nowadays it
  175. 6:15has been overcome. He is going to say
  176. 6:17that the way in which we organize
  177. 6:19families is not natural, it is not
  178. 6:20something eternal, but rather something
  179. 6:22historical, it is precisely a product
  180. 6:24of capitalism, of the demands that this
  181. 6:26capitalism is having, which was already
  182. 6:27consolidated towards the end of the
  183. 6:2919th century. I was going to say that,
  184. 6:32precisely, this monogamous family does
  185. 6:34not arise from love or personal
  186. 6:35decision, but rather comes from the
  187. 6:37first oppression in history, which is
  188. 6:39the oppression of men over women, who
  189. 6:41are considered private property within
  190. 6:43this capitalist structure and that,
  191. 6:45from the consolidation of the family,
  192. 6:47the State later emerges to control it.
  193. 6:49Well, but I do not want to get into
  194. 6:51that, I do not want to bring up such a
  195. 6:52complex debate, but you have to
  196. 6:53understand how they explained the
  197. 6:54origin of the monogamous family until
  198. 6:56the 19th century. The problem is that
  199. 6:58this explanation, as I said a moment
  200. 7:00ago, was based on this evolutionary
  201. 7:02theory that is now being overcome. And
  202. 7:05here comes Levistro, a very important
  203. 7:08anthropologist for the new currents of
  204. 7:10thought of the 20th century, who
  205. 7:12refutes these evolutionary ideas that
  206. 7:14there are primitive and civilized
  207. 7:16stages. On that subject, on incest, I
  208. 7:19have a video in particular, which is
  209. 7:21about incest, about the prohibition of
  210. 7:23incest. A widely viewed video, I'll say
  211. 7:25something very disturbing, widely
  212. 7:27viewed by many men. I have two videos
  213. 7:29that have more views from men than
  214. 7:32women, which are about the prohibition
  215. 7:34of incest and about why women have
  216. 7:37breasts. I don't know if it's
  217. 7:39disturbing or if it's good, but it's
  218. 7:41striking, at least that these are the
  219. 7:43most viewed videos by men, because they
  220. 7:45also coincide with the most searches on
  221. 7:48pornographic pages where the incest
  222. 7:50category is one of the most searched. I
  223. 7:53don't know, I'll put it out there;
  224. 7:54leave your thoughts below. But let's go
  225. 7:56back here to the origin of marriage.
  226. 7:58Although these theories were surpassed
  227. 8:00in the following decades, they laid the
  228. 8:02foundations for the main questions that
  229. 8:03we were going to ask ourselves about
  230. 8:05human behavior. For example, why choose
  231. 8:08monogamy or why choose marriage? Here
  232. 8:11we are not yet talking about marriage
  233. 8:13as a religious or state institution,
  234. 8:15but rather as a choice to bond based on
  235. 8:17monogamy, to choose a partner
  236. 8:19supposedly for life. Although Engels is
  237. 8:22being questioned today, he lays the
  238. 8:23foundation for questions that will be
  239. 8:25useful to us later on, because this is
  240. 8:27something that the social sciences have
  241. 8:29: although ideas raised in the past can
  242. 8:30be refuted, those ideas at least leave
  243. 8:32us with questions to continue
  244. 8:34questioning ourselves. So, it is not
  245. 8:36that what we say today diminishes,
  246. 8:38eliminates, or removes the past from
  247. 8:40the focus of discussion, but rather
  248. 8:42that it adopts and complicates it. So,
  249. 8:48it is clear that we cannot trace a
  250. 8:49single origin of marriage as a social
  251. 8:51norm. So, perhaps it is worth asking
  252. 8:55ourselves, what does marriage convey,
  253. 8:57what is the idea of building a
  254. 8:58monogamous relationship in a society?
  255. 9:01What is that decision that we do not
  256. 9:03know if it is individual or, let's say,
  257. 9:05imposed by some institution that
  258. 9:07reproduces in a society? Well,
  259. 9:10throughout history, all types of
  260. 9:11marriage that we can find, I mean, from
  261. 9:13this Roman marriage to the one in the
  262. 9:15Middle Ages, to that of colonial
  263. 9:17America, have something in common,
  264. 9:19which is that all marriages throughout
  265. 9:20history sought to organize society.
  266. 9:23They regulate a transmission. You might
  267. 9:26ask, "A transmission of what?" of goods
  268. 9:28, of status, of belonging to a group,
  269. 9:30of inheritance, of children. Marriage
  270. 9:33regulates all of this, and that is the
  271. 9:35key to understanding why marriage has
  272. 9:36always been a public matter; because it
  273. 9:38regulates things outside the State,
  274. 9:40outside the Church. But, for example,
  275. 9:42in ancient Rome, depending on who you
  276. 9:44married, what status you were going to
  277. 9:46transmit to your child in the next
  278. 9:47generation: whether he or she would be
  279. 9:49a citizen or not. When you get married
  280. 9:52in the Middle Ages, let's say, you
  281. 9:53regulated what you were going to pass
  282. 9:55on to your children in terms of goods,
  283. 9:57tools, trades, titles. In other words,
  284. 10:00the transmission of something in a
  285. 10:01marriage is always at stake. The first
  286. 10:03thing that comes to mind is the
  287. 10:04transmission of the dowry. The dowry is
  288. 10:07a set of goods, money, or resources
  289. 10:10that is transmitted in marriage through
  290. 10:13the bride. The bride enters the
  291. 10:16marriage with a dowry, which would be
  292. 10:17like an advance on her father's
  293. 10:19inheritance. This is what gives a woman
  294. 10:22value in the marriage market, making
  295. 10:24her more or less coveted in that
  296. 10:25marriage market. So, marriage regulates
  297. 10:28the transmission of the dowry, what the
  298. 10:30bride brings to marriage. This tells us
  299. 10:33something very interesting, which is
  300. 10:35that in the marriage of women from
  301. 10:37wealthy sectors, marriage was not an
  302. 10:39individual decision, but rather a
  303. 10:41family patrimonial transaction. In
  304. 10:44other words, if you are giving your
  305. 10:45daughter an economic value in a
  306. 10:47marriage market, it will not depend
  307. 10:48solely on your daughter's decision to
  308. 10:50get married or not, but rather it will
  309. 10:52depend on the family to say: "Hey, no,
  310. 10:53look, I'm leaving you all this
  311. 10:55inheritance so that you can marry a
  312. 10:56good suitor." Well, find one who is
  313. 10:58economically on par with us. I gave
  314. 11:01this example to understand how in all
  315. 11:03marriages there is always the
  316. 11:04transmission of something. Now, in
  317. 11:06addition to transmitting these goods or
  318. 11:09this status or this place in society, a
  319. 11:11woman is also being exchanged, let's
  320. 11:14say. Here I am going to return to the
  321. 11:16theory of Levistro, this structuralist
  322. 11:18anthropologist who is super important
  323. 11:20for anthropology and I am going to go
  324. 11:22back a little to what I talk about in
  325. 11:24the video on incest, where Levistro
  326. 11:26proposes that marriage is a form of
  327. 11:28exchange of women. In the first forms
  328. 11:30of social organization, different
  329. 11:32groups established bonds with each
  330. 11:33other through marriage alliances. For
  331. 11:36example, group A establishes a
  332. 11:38relationship with group B, marrying the
  333. 11:40daughter of one of group A to one of
  334. 11:42group B, exchanging women. We are
  335. 11:44allies. In that sense, where the
  336. 11:47marriage alliance was very important to
  337. 11:49make alliances with other groups, that
  338. 11:51is where the taboo of the prohibition
  339. 11:54of incest appears. The prohibition of
  340. 11:57incest has to do with the fact that I
  341. 11:59do not want there to be endogamous ties
  342. 12:01within my group. For example, my
  343. 12:03daughter marrying her cousin, because
  344. 12:05we are all from the same group. I want
  345. 12:07my daughter to marry someone from the
  346. 12:08other group. So, that is where the
  347. 12:10taboo of incest appears. I explained it
  348. 12:12very simply. I have a video of almost
  349. 12:15half an hour talking more in depth
  350. 12:17about this, but anyway, and I want it
  351. 12:19to be clear that within marriage, in
  352. 12:21its origins, there was the issue of the
  353. 12:22pure transmission of women, an exchange
  354. 12:24of women between groups to seal
  355. 12:26alliances. In the video on the
  356. 12:29prohibition of incest I also talk about
  357. 12:31this, but although Listro's thesis is
  358. 12:33super important and is, let's say, a
  359. 12:35founding one in anthropology, it has
  360. 12:37been reviewed with a gender perspective
  361. 12:39mainly by Gale Ruby, an anthropologist
  362. 12:41who says something very interesting
  363. 12:43about the origin of marriage. Also,
  364. 12:46Listro's main criticism, as I say in
  365. 12:48that video, is that he takes women
  366. 12:50simply as an object of exchange,
  367. 12:52without will, action, interference, or
  368. 12:55ability to say anything. But you will
  369. 12:58see how this system of exchanging women
  370. 13:00, these marriages, generate a system of
  371. 13:02subordination for women, which helps to
  372. 13:04explain that patriarchy is a
  373. 13:06construction and not something innate
  374. 13:08in nature. But I'm getting off topic.
  375. 13:10The important thing is that she
  376. 13:12reinforces this idea that marriage is
  377. 13:15the institution that somehow formalizes
  378. 13:18the subordination of women by men.
  379. 13:20Because in that exchange system, where
  380. 13:22men are the ones who choose which woman
  381. 13:25to exchange with which group of men, in
  382. 13:27some way it is the beginning of this
  383. 13:29subordination or this power that men
  384. 13:32have over women. She is going to insist
  385. 13:34on this: it is a social construct and,
  386. 13:36like all social constructs, it can be
  387. 13:37dismantled. Another intellectual who is
  388. 13:40going to say something about this is
  389. 13:41Herna Learner, who for me is a top
  390. 13:45academic. In fact, I plan to make a
  391. 13:47specific video about her, because she
  392. 13:49has a very interesting theory that
  393. 13:51explains the origin of patriarchy, that
  394. 13:53nothing is crazy, let's say, her book
  395. 13:55is actually called The Origin of
  396. 13:57Patriarchy, and if you want me to make
  397. 13:59that video, you can leave a like, you
  398. 14:01can leave a comment and you can make
  399. 14:03this video reach 10,000 likes. If it
  400. 14:04reaches 10,000 likes, that video will
  401. 14:06come out, that video will come out
  402. 14:07anyway, but it will come out faster if
  403. 14:09this one has 10,000 likes. Well,
  404. 14:11Hernarner is going to be very
  405. 14:12interesting, discussing and questioning
  406. 14:14Engels 'theory in particular. You saw
  407. 14:16that I told you about marriage as a
  408. 14:18result of private property. She's going
  409. 14:20to say the opposite, that marriage
  410. 14:22comes first and then private property,
  411. 14:24because men's ownership of women's
  412. 14:26sexual and reproductive capacity within
  413. 14:29marriage precedes the capitalist
  414. 14:30private property that we know and, of
  415. 14:32course, it's also a social construct.
  416. 14:35Her thesis is fantastic because, well,
  417. 14:37I don't want to get too involved in
  418. 14:38that because I'm going to talk about a
  419. 14:39video about it. But anyway, I don't
  420. 14:41want to get ahead of myself; I'm going
  421. 14:43to continue with this video that I'm
  422. 14:45finding quite chaotic because I really
  423. 14:47had to read a lot, especially things
  424. 14:48that I had already read in college and
  425. 14:50I had to read them again. And how is it
  426. 14:52that talking about marriage is such a
  427. 14:54broad topic? Because, as I told you at
  428. 14:56the beginning of the video, we either
  429. 14:58talk about the institution of the State
  430. 15:00or the Church, or we talk about
  431. 15:02monogamous relationships, or we talk
  432. 15:04about how we build...since it was so
  433. 15:06chaotic, I decided to organize it this
  434. 15:08way: first, talking about marriage as a
  435. 15:10monogamous union outside the State and
  436. 15:12outside the Church, to understand where
  437. 15:14this choice of having a supposedly
  438. 15:16lifelong bond with another person comes
  439. 15:18from, which we are seeing here has a
  440. 15:21lot to do with the subordination of
  441. 15:23women within the creation of networks
  442. 15:26between men. But I think that all of us
  443. 15:28who are most closely linked to the idea
  444. 15:30of marriage have an idea that has to do
  445. 15:32with the Catholic Church, above all,
  446. 15:34although all the different societies
  447. 15:36had different forms of monogamous
  448. 15:38unions or not. But anyway, since we are
  449. 15:40talking about the West, we are going to
  450. 15:42talk about monogamous ones, and the
  451. 15:44different churches institutionalized
  452. 15:46marriages differently, because there
  453. 15:48are religions that allow polygamy. For
  454. 15:50example, here we are going to talk
  455. 15:52about Western marriage. The monogamous
  456. 15:54marriage that we traditionally know
  457. 15:57from our parents' and grandparents '
  458. 15:59movies. Let's leave out all the
  459. 16:02religious explanations or polygamous
  460. 16:04explanations of other types of
  461. 16:06marriages that are not the ones we
  462. 16:08mostly see in the West, because
  463. 16:10otherwise this video would be crazy.
  464. 16:13Imagine, it's going to be a 6-hour
  465. 16:14video. So I'm going to make this
  466. 16:17clarification that I'm only limiting
  467. 16:19myself to Western, monogamous marriage
  468. 16:21in the Catholic Church. You saw that at
  469. 16:27the beginning of this video I gave
  470. 16:28three examples of marriages that were
  471. 16:30considered marriages in different eras,
  472. 16:32none of which had to do with a priest
  473. 16:34or a church necessarily, but rather had
  474. 16:36more to do with a promise that one
  475. 16:38person made to the other. If we imagine
  476. 16:41a marriage in our imagination today,
  477. 16:44we're going to think of a bride in a
  478. 16:47white dress, a best man, a maid of
  479. 16:49honor, a groom, a church, a father
  480. 16:52giving away the bride. Sure, church
  481. 16:56marriages are becoming fewer and fewer,
  482. 16:58but hey, when you think about movies or
  483. 16:59the cultural constructs in your head,
  484. 17:01there's always a priest in what we
  485. 17:03imagine as a marriage. The church
  486. 17:06intervenes in some way. However, I'm
  487. 17:08telling you from the examples I read in
  488. 17:10this video, the church wasn't
  489. 17:12intervening in any of these forms of
  490. 17:13marriage. At what point did the Church
  491. 17:16adopt the institution of marriage? Well
  492. 17:18, in the 15th century, as I told you at
  493. 17:20the beginning of the video, in the 1st
  494. 17:23century AD, in ancient Rome, people
  495. 17:25chose to get married. All that was
  496. 17:27needed was the will of the parties to
  497. 17:29get married. The church didn't
  498. 17:31intervene in any way. The marriage
  499. 17:33lasted as long as the intention to be
  500. 17:35married lasted, basically. And during
  501. 17:37the first centuries of Christianity's
  502. 17:39existence, the church didn't intervene
  503. 17:41in these loving bonds between people.
  504. 17:45It blessed them, gave its opinion on
  505. 17:46them, sometimes saying they were good
  506. 17:48or bad, but it didn't organize them, it
  507. 17:50wasn't part of the institution, let's
  508. 17:52say, the institution of the church. It
  509. 17:55was still a purely family matter. The
  510. 17:58first change we see occurred in the
  511. 18:0011th century, when the Church decided
  512. 18:02to introduce a series of changes to the
  513. 18:04sacrament of marriage and proposed that
  514. 18:07for a marriage to exist, two things had
  515. 18:09to happen. First, there had to be
  516. 18:12consent from both parties to want to be
  517. 18:14in that marriage, and second, that
  518. 18:16marriage had to be consummated with a
  519. 18:18sexual act. Of course, this had to do
  520. 18:21with the need that the Church was going
  521. 18:22to start to have for a larger
  522. 18:24population, for more people to be born.
  523. 18:26So, within marriage, the sexual act was
  524. 18:28going to be something that the Church
  525. 18:29encouraged in order to have children,
  526. 18:31because, well, more people were needed
  527. 18:33in the world at that time, in the 11th
  528. 18:35century; but a priest was not needed
  529. 18:37for that marriage, witnesses were not
  530. 18:38needed, and the parents did not need to
  531. 18:40be willing. All that was needed was for
  532. 18:43both parties to want it, to have the
  533. 18:45will, to have the consent, and to
  534. 18:47consummate their act. What is important
  535. 18:50, however, is that once that act is
  536. 18:51consummated, the marriage is
  537. 18:53indissoluble, you cannot separate. This
  538. 18:56is important because this change, which
  539. 18:58was introduced in the 11th century, was
  540. 19:00radical for the Middle Ages, because it
  541. 19:02introduced the issue of women's consent
  542. 19:04. During most of the Middle Ages, there
  543. 19:07was the issue of arranged marriages,
  544. 19:09which would continue to exist; arranged
  545. 19:11marriages, especially among the upper
  546. 19:12classes. But up until that point in the
  547. 19:15Middle Ages in Europe, a father could
  548. 19:16choose who to marry his daughter to,
  549. 19:18and it didn't matter whether his
  550. 19:19daughter wanted to or not. Well, in the
  551. 19:2111th century, the issue of consent was
  552. 19:23introduced, where the woman had to give
  553. 19:25her consent and had to say she was in
  554. 19:27favor of who she wanted to marry, which
  555. 19:29gave her a certain autonomy. And let's
  556. 19:31look at this again in the 11th century,
  557. 19:33in a couple of centuries this went back
  558. 19:34. In other words, we're going to see
  559. 19:36that the history of marriage, now yes,
  560. 19:38as part of a Catholic institution
  561. 19:40within the church, has its twists and
  562. 19:41turns all the time that had to do with
  563. 19:43the needs of the church at each moment.
  564. 19:45I won't even mention when the state
  565. 19:47steps in. Now, in the 10th, 14th, and
  566. 19:4910th centuries, the Church began to
  567. 19:50have a series of conflicts regarding
  568. 19:52the issue of what marriages were valid,
  569. 19:54because if you don't have witnesses, if
  570. 19:56you don't have an order, if you don't
  571. 19:58have a structure that somehow organizes
  572. 20:00or allows you to have, I don't know, a
  573. 20:02registry of marriages, there's a whole
  574. 20:04mess between people who want to annul
  575. 20:06marriages, but don't annul them. So, in
  576. 20:09the 15th century, the Church,
  577. 20:11particularly at the Council of Trent,
  578. 20:13decided that no marriage would be
  579. 20:15considered legitimate unless it was
  580. 20:17performed in front of a priest. From
  581. 20:20the Council of Trent onwards, in order
  582. 20:22to get married you had to go in front
  583. 20:23of a priest, and the priest had to
  584. 20:25witness that you were getting married
  585. 20:26and had to keep a registry. Of course,
  586. 20:28you had to have other witnesses in
  587. 20:29addition to the priest. It began to get
  588. 20:31organized and, for the first time,
  589. 20:33marriages began to be registered. Here
  590. 20:35begins a tradition that would continue
  591. 20:37for centuries, in the case of Argentina
  592. 20:40until the end of the 19th century,
  593. 20:42where the church kept records of all
  594. 20:44civil matters of the population, births
  595. 20:46, deaths, marriages and baptisms. It is
  596. 20:49the church that now has this very
  597. 20:51important record. From then on, the
  598. 20:54form of marriage did not change much,
  599. 20:57it is quite similar to what we have
  600. 20:59today, with a priest, witnesses, and
  601. 21:01the bride and groom. Then the issue of
  602. 21:04the party and the berequetengue were
  603. 21:05added, that came a little later, but we
  604. 21:07have this structure where you have to
  605. 21:09present people who can testify that
  606. 21:10people are loving each other because
  607. 21:12they want to get married and not
  608. 21:13because they are being forced to, and
  609. 21:15the priest is the one who authorizes or
  610. 21:16not the marriage. It is important to
  611. 21:19note here that, already in the 15th
  612. 21:21century, we have the occupation, the
  613. 21:23conquest, the invasion, the Spanish and
  614. 21:25European colonization of the Latin
  615. 21:27American continent; and all these ways
  616. 21:29of relating were transferred to the
  617. 21:31American continent, where the ways of
  618. 21:33relating in pre-Hispanic societies, in
  619. 21:35the indigenous societies that inhabited
  620. 21:37here, were very different from those in
  621. 21:39Europe. For example, there were a lot
  622. 21:42of societies that were polygamous where
  623. 21:45polygamy was allowed mainly among the
  624. 21:47most hierarchical positions. And here
  625. 21:51the church was going to tell them, "
  626. 21:52Niaca, you are going to mold yourselves
  627. 21:54to European ways of relating and
  628. 21:56marriage was transferred to the
  629. 21:57indigenous societies that were being
  630. 21:59subjugated." Of course. And notice how
  631. 22:05important marriage was going to be as
  632. 22:06an institution. I'll go back to the
  633. 22:08example I gave you at the beginning of
  634. 22:10the video. You saw that at the
  635. 22:11beginning of the video I gave you three
  636. 22:12examples. One of a marriage in ancient
  637. 22:16Rome, another in the Middle Ages and
  638. 22:18another in Lima, let's say, around 1600
  639. 22:20, where an enslaved man named Juan
  640. 22:22Villegas was taken from Mexico to Lima
  641. 22:25to be sold. And when he arrived in Lima
  642. 22:28he said, "Hey, stop, you can't move me
  643. 22:30from one region to another, you can't
  644. 22:33sell me just like that because I have a
  645. 22:35wife, my wife stayed in Mexico and
  646. 22:37marriage, which is a very important
  647. 22:39sacrament for the church, should be
  648. 22:41above servitude." So you're telling me
  649. 22:43that since the Spanish crown you
  650. 22:44endorse what the church says. Well,
  651. 22:46it's your own church that made me marry
  652. 22:48a woman. I respected that union. Well,
  653. 22:50this case is very special because, well
  654. 22:53, although it shows the agency that
  655. 22:55this enslaved man Juan Villegas had to
  656. 22:57seek out the court, to present
  657. 22:58witnesses, to initiate a trial, to
  658. 23:00demand that he return to Mexico with
  659. 23:02his wife. What he said is very
  660. 23:05interesting, because he said, "It's not
  661. 23:07fair that the law of marriage be broken
  662. 23:09by the law of slavery." You know what?
  663. 23:12The guy was right. They proved him
  664. 23:14right. The church said, "No, yes, stop.
  665. 23:16Marriage is very important. You are
  666. 23:18married, you are going to return to
  667. 23:19Mexico, you are going to live with your
  668. 23:20wife, you are going to continue being a
  669. 23:22slave." Of course, that does not change
  670. 23:23. But we are going to return you to the
  671. 23:26region of origin where you were from in
  672. 23:28Mexico so that you can live with your
  673. 23:29wife, because marriage comes first. I
  674. 23:32bring this up as an example so that you
  675. 23:34can see how important the institution
  676. 23:36of marriage was for the church, which
  677. 23:37made it possible to listen to the
  678. 23:39demands of an enslaved person that were
  679. 23:41not generally listened to. At the
  680. 23:43beginning of the video, I also said
  681. 23:44that something very curious happens in
  682. 23:46the historical journey that we can take
  683. 23:48of marriage. It is that in the same
  684. 23:50century that it became normal for
  685. 23:52people to marry for love, certain types
  686. 23:55of marriage also began to be prohibited
  687. 23:58. Well, the idea that people marry for
  688. 24:03love is somewhat of a historical
  689. 24:05anomaly, because the norm throughout
  690. 24:07history has not necessarily been
  691. 24:09marriage for love, but for convenience,
  692. 24:12survival, or arrangement. The thing is
  693. 24:14that for centuries marriage fulfilled
  694. 24:17many social, economic, and cultural
  695. 24:19functions. It responded to individual
  696. 24:21needs, and individual needs or
  697. 24:23individual desires were actually
  698. 24:25relegated to secondary importance.
  699. 24:27Throughout history, people got married
  700. 24:29more out of necessity than out of love.
  701. 24:32Well, the turning point in all this
  702. 24:34came in the 17th century with the
  703. 24:35expansion of the economy and the
  704. 24:37emergence of wage labor, which weakened
  705. 24:39the power of parents over their
  706. 24:41children, since it was the parents who
  707. 24:43most often influenced their children's
  708. 24:45marital decisions. At the same time,
  709. 24:48the language and ideas of the
  710. 24:50Enlightenment kind of revived this
  711. 24:52issue of love and individual desire,
  712. 24:54and especially since the 19th century,
  713. 24:56changes in the way people lived and in
  714. 24:58the way people thought led to the
  715. 25:00emergence of these individual marital
  716. 25:02decisions, where people began to marry
  717. 25:04out of love and by choice, and not so
  718. 25:06much because of parental mandate or
  719. 25:08decision. Here, when I was making this
  720. 25:11part of the video, I read something
  721. 25:13that I found very funny because it's
  722. 25:15somewhat true. It is that when romantic
  723. 25:17love triumphed within marriage, let's
  724. 25:19say, the seed was planted that
  725. 25:21stabilized the institution of marriage.
  726. 25:24Because when marriage moves to the
  727. 25:26emotional sphere, to love, romance, and
  728. 25:28so on, it thrives more as a personal
  729. 25:30relationship and less as an institution
  730. 25:32. Let's say the institution has less
  731. 25:35weight and emotion has more weight. And
  732. 25:38that is what ends up destroying
  733. 25:39marriage to the point that today people
  734. 25:41may not even want to get married. They
  735. 25:43are in love, they love each other, they
  736. 25:44choose to live together and they don't
  737. 25:46get married because the emotional
  738. 25:47aspect weighs more than the
  739. 25:48institutional aspect. But anyway, I
  740. 25:50told you a while ago that in the same
  741. 25:52century, in this 17th century, where
  742. 25:53this issue of love within marriage and
  743. 25:55personal choice flourished or emerged,
  744. 25:56and it was no longer so much the
  745. 25:58mandate of your parents or survival. It
  746. 26:00was the same century where certain
  747. 26:02types of marriages began to be
  748. 26:03prohibited. This was mainly in Spain
  749. 26:06and in the Spanish colonies in America,
  750. 26:09let's say. It's the late 17th century.
  751. 26:13The Spanish monarchy gave rise to the
  752. 26:15Bourbons, a dynasty that tried to
  753. 26:17organize the American colonies. They
  754. 26:20made a series of reforms to organize
  755. 26:22the American colonies, which they felt
  756. 26:24were somewhat left to their own devices
  757. 26:26, initiating a series of reforms to
  758. 26:28extract more money from the colonies
  759. 26:30and, at the same time, organize them,
  760. 26:32prioritize them, and so on. In this
  761. 26:34context, they enacted a series of laws
  762. 26:37that sought, as I say, to organize
  763. 26:39society and, above all, to prevent
  764. 26:41society from mixing with those who were
  765. 26:43not so desirable. Basically, they
  766. 26:45prohibited people of different castes
  767. 26:48from marrying each other, an enslaved
  768. 26:50person from marrying a Creole person, a
  769. 26:53Spaniard, or an indigenous person from
  770. 26:55marrying a Spaniard. They legally
  771. 26:58prohibited mixed marriages, we could
  772. 27:00think of between castes. This is
  773. 27:03something that had already been seen
  774. 27:04throughout history. Different societies
  775. 27:06prohibited these types of marriages.
  776. 27:08For example, at one time in ancient
  777. 27:09Rome, plebelli and patricians were not
  778. 27:11allowed to marry, but that is very
  779. 27:12distant. We are talking about 300 years
  780. 27:15ago in the same context, at the same
  781. 27:17time when it seems that the issue, one
  782. 27:19would think, was more individual, when
  783. 27:21the individual desire to marry
  784. 27:22prevailed. Well, at the same time they
  785. 27:25are saying, "Well, no, marry whoever
  786. 27:26you want, but not that one, because he
  787. 27:28is not of your caste, he is not of your
  788. 27:29class." The law protects the lineage of
  789. 27:31the lineages that they want to protect.
  790. 27:34Of course, this law applies above all
  791. 27:36to the Spanish, to the whites, to the
  792. 27:38Creoles, not so much to the indigenous
  793. 27:40people and to the slaves and to the
  794. 27:42mestizos or the mulattos, who were
  795. 27:44considered a lower caste, a lower
  796. 27:46segment, but it begins to apply to
  797. 27:48these groups with a higher level of
  798. 27:49blood purity. They have purer blood.
  799. 27:53This does not prevent a series of
  800. 27:55marriages from occurring, let's say,
  801. 27:57outside of these norms, but of course
  802. 27:59it is not the most normal, it is not
  803. 28:01the most general, but rather it is a
  804. 28:03law that governs society and is more
  805. 28:05the rule than the exception. Since the
  806. 28:08consolidation of modern states, towards
  807. 28:10the end of the 19th century, different
  808. 28:13Latin American and European countries
  809. 28:15began to have laws of civil equality
  810. 28:17and most marriages were permitted
  811. 28:19without racial differentiation. In
  812. 28:22Latin America, in the United States,
  813. 28:24racial segregation laws continued for a
  814. 28:27couple more decades, let's say until
  815. 28:29very recently. For example, in the case
  816. 28:32of Argentina, which is where I am from,
  817. 28:35starting in 1853, with the Constitution
  818. 28:37, anyone could marry whomever they
  819. 28:39wanted, simply by expressing their will
  820. 28:41to do so and, well, following all the
  821. 28:43steps that the State required, such as
  822. 28:45the issue of witnesses, being of legal
  823. 28:47age, and so on. With the consolidation
  824. 28:50of modern states, until the end of the
  825. 28:5219th century and the beginning of the
  826. 28:5420th century, a series of secular laws
  827. 28:56began to be enacted, for example, in
  828. 28:57Argentina, which removed the monopoly
  829. 28:59on marriage from the Church; the State
  830. 29:01took it over. The State began to
  831. 29:03regulate all these civil matters of
  832. 29:05births, deaths, marriages, and so on.
  833. 29:08And the issue of church marriage became
  834. 29:10something more closely linked to each
  835. 29:12person's creed or personal choice, to
  836. 29:13the point that today, in order to get
  837. 29:15married, one simply had to do it in a
  838. 29:17civil ceremony; the issue of church
  839. 29:19marriage was optional, depending on
  840. 29:20each person's beliefs. Of course, in
  841. 29:23Argentina and in many other Latin
  842. 29:25American countries, church marriage was
  843. 29:28also linked to a certain status, but oh
  844. 29:30well, I'm leaving the video. Yes, I
  845. 29:35found it interesting to think about how
  846. 29:38these choices of monogamous lifestyles
  847. 29:41or couples, lifelong marriages, and so
  848. 29:43on, were not natural issues inherent to
  849. 29:46human nature, but rather came from a
  850. 29:48social construct. The State does not
  851. 29:51legislate against love because it
  852. 29:52simply resents love. The State
  853. 29:55legislates against love when love
  854. 29:56becomes dangerous to the system it
  855. 29:58wants to build. When love questions the
  856. 30:01system of inheritance and caste, when
  857. 30:04it disrupts society, marriage becomes
  858. 30:06something serious when marriage
  859. 30:08challenges the pre-established order.
  860. 30:11So, marriage does not have a single
  861. 30:13origin. We cannot be stuck with a
  862. 30:14single origin. The idea of this video
  863. 30:17was to demonstrate how over time in
  864. 30:19different societies and at different
  865. 30:22times it took on different meanings and
  866. 30:24uses that were adapted and modified to
  867. 30:26the needs of the dominant actors at
  868. 30:28each moment. I know this video is a bit
  869. 30:32messy, but my idea was to provide you
  870. 30:34with a tool to answer something that
  871. 30:36has been asked a lot lately. You have
  872. 30:38seen that we are into this thing of
  873. 30:40returning to traditional values, the
  874. 30:41traditional family, mother, father and
  875. 30:43children married for life. Well, the
  876. 30:46next time someone tells you that we
  877. 30:48have to return to the traditional
  878. 30:49values of traditional marriage, you ask
  879. 30:51them, what traditional marriage?
  880. 30:54Ancient Rome, where people got married
  881. 30:56and unmarried whenever they wanted,
  882. 30:58let's say, they simply had to wish to
  883. 30:59no longer be together and then they
  884. 31:01separated; the marriage of the Middle
  885. 31:02Ages, where to get married you simply
  886. 31:04had to go to a forest and swear your
  887. 31:06love to the other person without
  888. 31:07witnesses, without judges, without
  889. 31:08records; or the marriage of the 17th
  890. 31:10century, which perhaps did not allow
  891. 31:12you to marry someone simply because
  892. 31:13they were from a different caste.
  893. 31:16Something to think about. Thanks for
  894. 31:17watching this video up to this point.
  895. 31:19The truth is that it left me a little
  896. 31:20crazy. I know it left me crazy, but
  897. 31:22I'll tell you why. I was planning on
  898. 31:25publishing another video, recording
  899. 31:26another video today, but before I
  900. 31:27started recording I realized that I had
  901. 31:29to read some things that didn't quite
  902. 31:30make sense to me. So I said, well, I
  903. 31:32had this video more or less
  904. 31:34pre-arranged in terms of structure and
  905. 31:35I said, well, I'll record it. Anyway, I
  906. 31:37more or less know what I want to talk
  907. 31:39about. Well, as I was talking I
  908. 31:40realized that I wasn't so sure about
  909. 31:42what I wanted to talk about. So, I went
  910. 31:44a little crazy. But hey, these are
  911. 31:46videos that take me a long time to read
  912. 31:48because I really read a lot to make
  913. 31:49these videos. You know that, well, I
  914. 31:51have a commitment to what I talk about
  915. 31:53because I am a historian, let's say. So
  916. 31:55, I feel a double commitment and it is
  917. 31:57costing me a lot to make so many videos
  918. 31:59. It is like maybe I get too tangled up
  919. 32:02in the readings, but hey, let's wait
  920. 32:04and get back into the rhythm. I am
  921. 32:06going to start making videos that take
  922. 32:08me less reading to have time for the
  923. 32:10videos that take me more reading. My
  924. 32:12camera turned off 600 times in the
  925. 32:14middle of recording for so long, so I
  926. 32:16don't even know what I was saying. But
  927. 32:18hey, thank you for watching this video
  928. 32:19that was crazy, that no one is going to
  929. 32:21watch, that is going to be very long,
  930. 32:22that I am going to want to kill myself
  931. 32:24because I am going to spend 40 hours
  932. 32:25editing a video that no one is going to
  933. 32:26watch. So your comment is doubly
  934. 32:28appreciated, and the like if you want
  935. 32:30to see the video about the origin of
  936. 32:32patriarchy. And I remind you that I
  937. 32:34have my show, uh, "Depende del pasado,
  938. 32:36no es el problema", which I'll be
  939. 32:38performing in Comodoro Valia, Puerto
  940. 32:39Madrín, and Bariloche; my special "
  941. 32:41Brujas", which I'll be performing in
  942. 32:43Montevideo, Córdoba, Rosario de, La
  943. 32:45Plata, and Buenos Aires; and that in
  944. 32:46January I'll be in Mexico City and
  945. 32:48Tulum, and I'm going to get the tickets
  946. 32:50now. I think they're probably already
  947. 32:53on sale because I'm recording this a
  948. 32:55week before publishing it, but I think
  949. 32:57they'll be on sale next week or so:
  950. 32:59Mexico City, late January, Tulum, early
  951. 33:01February, I think February 3rd in Tulum
  952. 33:03, but I can't say anything yet because
  953. 33:05I don't know. If you want me to go to
  954. 33:08another country, invite me to Uno vuela
  955. 33:09, uno sueña alto. I'm distracted, I
  956. 33:11don't know if you can tell by the way I
  957. 33:13talk that maybe I'm not being that
  958. 33:14serious, but I'm fed up. I spent an
  959. 33:16hour recording this video, so double
  960. 33:18that like, double that comment. And if
  961. 33:20you want to subscribe, I'm close to
  962. 33:22200,000, and I can't think of what to
  963. 33:24offer you for the 200,000, what special
  964. 33:26to offer you; because for the 100,000 I
  965. 33:28did a special about my thesis, my
  966. 33:30research, my undergraduate thesis in
  967. 33:32history. Nobody saw it, that video has
  968. 33:3420,000 views, so I'm not going to
  969. 33:36promise anything, because you won't see
  970. 33:38what they promise. I'm exhausted. Now I
  971. 33:40have to edit this very long video.

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