Polish lawmaker who grew up under communism WARNS American students — Transcript

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1. 0:00Communism is a failed idea. It's been
2. 0:02tried time and time again and it never
3. 0:04works. In fact, it leaves people worse
4. 0:07than it finds them. It promises to give
5. 0:10free school, free health care, free
6. 0:12housing, but in reality, it takes. It
7. 0:15strips people of their freedom, their
8. 0:17innovation, and their independence. And
9. 0:19eventually, it kills. Take Cuba. Fidel
10. 0:23Castro was viewed as a hero, a savior.
11. 0:25He wasn't a communist, he was a
12. 0:27democratic nationalist. Sound familiar?
13. 0:30He promised free speech, free press, and
14. 0:32free elections. But then, he got a
15. 0:34little power and all that changed. He
16. 0:37seized properties and nationalized
17. 0:39businesses. He even canceled Christmas
18. 0:42so workers could focus on their
19. 0:43sugarcane crop. And to solidify his
20. 0:46control over the people he promised to
21. 0:48help, he ended democratic elections.
22. 0:52Here's the thing about communism. Once
23. 0:54you're voted in, it's tough, if not
24. 0:56impossible, to vote it out. It's an
25. 0:59ideology that must be faced proactively,
26. 1:02not reactively. Because if you're
27. 1:04reacting, you may be too late. That's
28. 1:06why middle and high school students in
29. 1:08Florida are receiving expanded history
30. 1:10lessons this year on the real history of
31. 1:12communism. It's an important shift,
32. 1:15especially when we have Marxism being
33. 1:17amplified at the college level. But
34. 1:20believe it or not, there is at least one
35. 1:22university taking up the task of
36. 1:24defending democracy. Florida
37. 1:26International University has welcomed
38. 1:29European Parliament member Dominik
39. 1:31Tarczyński to campus. He was born in
40. 1:34communist Poland and will be leading a
41. 1:36lecture titled Communism in the past,
42. 1:38present, and future, its impact on the
43. 1:40economy and individual freedom. We sat
44. 1:43down to talk about that critical lesson.
45. 1:47>> You are a Polish member of the European
46. 1:50Parliament and you've actually come here
47. 1:52to America on on a bit of a mission. So,
48. 1:55kind of give me your background and what
49. 1:57it is that you're trying to do here in
50. 1:59the US?
51. 2:00>> I was born in Poland, Eastern Poland, in
52. 2:021979. It's important because that was
53. 2:04the communist times. I remember that
54. 2:07President Reagan and John Paul the
55. 2:09second, these two giants freed Poland
56. 2:13from communism. But, I can see communism
57. 2:15coming back and I can see that America
58. 2:18needs
59. 2:20There's a need for fight. I mean, honest
60. 2:22fight.
61. 2:23And my presence here, first of all, is
62. 2:27my way to pay respect for freedom.
63. 2:30And this is very, very personal to me as
64. 2:33a person who grew up
65. 2:35under communism.
66. 2:36>> Yeah.
67. 2:37>> I was
68. 2:387 years old when my mom asked me to
69. 2:41queue for shoes for all night.
70. 2:43>> Wow.
71. 2:44>> There was no food.
72. 2:45There was no nothing to buy. I know what
73. 2:47communism is.
74. 2:49So, I'm trying to take action not to be
75. 2:51observer, but I want to be a fighter.
76. 2:55Go out to the people. Try to explain how
77. 2:58evil communism is. They call themselves
78. 3:00socialists. They call themselves selves
79. 3:03social democrats. They are communists.
80. 3:06And now I can hear from
81. 3:08Bernie Sanders or AOC about the
82. 3:10socialism and equality.
83. 3:12Yeah, everyone was equal in Poland.
84. 3:14Everyone was equally hungry in the same
85. 3:17way. That's socialism.
86. 3:19>> Obviously, you're here in the United
87. 3:21States teaching a college course that's
88. 3:23called communism in the past, present,
89. 3:25and future. It's impact on the economy
90. 3:28and individual freedom. So, what is it
91. 3:31you are teaching in this course that you
92. 3:33think is important for young Americans
93. 3:35to hear?
94. 3:36>> Reality.
95. 3:36Reality, my personal experience because
96. 3:39for young kids, and also for for for
97. 3:42students, socialism is pictured as a
98. 3:45beautiful idea of equality, right?
99. 3:50I tell you why this is very important
100. 3:53for me.
101. 3:56It comes from my family.
102. 3:58When
103. 4:00World War II ended,
104. 4:03communists took over Soviet Russia.
105. 4:06And my grandfather said, "No, no, no.
106. 4:08I'm not going to end the I'm not going
107. 4:10to finish my my war because we've got
108. 4:12new occupier,
109. 4:14but it's the Poland is still occupied."
110. 4:17So, he was in charge of underground army
111. 4:20in in my city. And when he was 27,
112. 4:25the only safe place where where he could
113. 4:27sleep was empty grave at the cemetery.
114. 4:32Communists would kill them straight
115. 4:33away.
116. 4:34Then my father, he was one of the
117. 4:36founders of Solidarity in Poland in my
118. 4:39town.
119. 4:40When they tried to have a conversation
120. 4:43about Poland, patriotism, values,
121. 4:46they had to go out and have a walk to
122. 4:48the cemetery because the whole home was
123. 4:52tight.
124. 4:54That's my childhood.
125. 4:56I I do not want any child to go through
126. 4:59this process.
127. 5:01So, I think it's very important to have
128. 5:03this um debates and uh and be with the
129. 5:06with the students
130. 5:08to
131. 5:09challenge them.
132. 5:10>> I want to name and go through a couple
133. 5:12of the kind of foundational policies of
134. 5:16the DSA platform, abolishing the current
135. 5:19police and prison systems, defunding the
136. 5:21Department of War and closing all US
137. 5:24military bases overseas, eliminating the
138. 5:27US Senate, the Supreme Court, and the
139. 5:30presidency.
140. 5:31Dominic, give me your thoughts on the
141. 5:33DSA.
142. 5:33>> Communism.
143. 5:34Communism. I mean, 100%. You want to
144. 5:36destroy your own country. That's what it
145. 5:38is.
146. 5:39I mean, mainly it's a mental disorder.
147. 5:41It's a sabotage. No one would ever say
148. 5:44these kind of things in Poland, not
149. 5:46after 70 years of communism. None. Even
150. 5:49the most radical left would not say such
151. 5:51a ridiculous ideas. No one would propose
152. 5:54that. So, the question is, who wants to
153. 5:56who wants to push the Democrats?
154. 5:59It has nothing to do with democracy.
155. 6:01That's why I think midterms are so
156. 6:03important because if
157. 6:05I don't believe that but if they would
158. 6:07win
159. 6:08you would get what it is. That's my
160. 6:12opinion as a European citizen.
161. 6:14How important that is for you?
162. 6:16Do you remember when
163. 6:17President Trump said, "Okay, we're not
164. 6:19going to take care of you. You're not
165. 6:20paying 2% for NATO." Germans were
166. 6:22laughing.
167. 6:24Uh in UN. Who's laughing now?
168. 6:27President said, "Okay, if you want to
169. 6:29spend money on illegal migrants, on
170. 6:31jihadists, but you don't want to pay 2%,
171. 6:33I'm not your private bodyguard." Same
172. 6:35night uh summit. European Union found
173. 6:37money and they're going to pay.
174. 6:39This is strong leadership. And Europe
175. 6:42found out that okay, now we have to pay
176. 6:44for what we agreed for in a treaty, 2%.
177. 6:47So,
178. 6:48this is how I see cooperation in a free
179. 6:50world, really free world, because what
180. 6:53we hear from socialists is just a
181. 6:55utopia. It's it's not real.
182. 6:58So,
183. 6:59it's not real and and and so sad that so
184. 7:02many people are still
185. 7:04um
186. 7:06manipulated to the extent
187. 7:09that they are so radical
188. 7:12that they're on the streets protesting
189. 7:14against their own country, burning
190. 7:17flags. It wouldn't happen in Poland,
191. 7:18never.
192. 7:20>> Another key tenant of the DSA platform
193. 7:23is of course abolishing ICE. They want
194. 7:24to grant amnesty to all illegal
195. 7:26immigrants. We've seen Poland actually
196. 7:28really crack down on migration. How
197. 7:31important is that for a country to have
198. 7:33secure borders?
199. 7:34>> most important. This is why my political
200. 7:37motto is be like Poland. Uh it comes
201. 7:40from my speech in in European
202. 7:41Parliament, when I said zero.
203. 7:44Zero. Not [clears throat] even one.
204. 7:46Not even one. Zero. We build the wall.
205. 7:49And then, unfortunately, one of our
206. 7:51soldiers was killed with a spear. Our
207. 7:54parliament gathered two days. We changed
208. 7:57the law. Now, we can use uh little
209. 7:59weapon. We can use light bullets.
210. 8:00Numbers dropped. This is why Poland is
211. 8:03the safest uh country in the European
212. 8:05Union. Highest GDP after COVID. The
213. 8:08lowest number of rapes. No beheadings.
214. 8:11No stabbings. We don't have that. It's
215. 8:13official data. But, without strong
216. 8:15America, there's no strong Europe.
217. 8:18We need you. That's why I'm here.
218. 8:19Because I love Poland.
219. 8:21But, I love America, and I'm grateful
220. 8:23for what you what you have done in the
221. 8:24past.
222. 8:25>> A Cato Institute survey found that 53%
223. 8:28That's over half of Gen Z view socialism
224. 8:32positively. And only 45% of them view
225. 8:35capitalism positively. So, it it is
226. 8:38going to be very tough with this
227. 8:40generation. What do you hope they leave
228. 8:42your course realizing about those two?
229. 8:45>> I'm going to try to explain and compare
230. 8:47it with capitalism and and what is the
231. 8:49difference. How many people died under
232. 8:52communism? Well, it's over 200 million.
233. 8:55So, I I I'm going to I'm going to show
234. 8:56historical facts, data, my personal
235. 8:59experience. If this is not enough,
236. 9:03I'm going to take you to one of the
237. 9:04socialist country. We're going to spend
238. 9:05there a week or two.
239. 9:07And you're going to see
240. 9:09when there is no food,
241. 9:11when there is
242. 9:12no housing,
243. 9:14when there are
244. 9:15the people are tortured,
245. 9:17killed,
246. 9:18raped. This is what happened in Poland.
247. 9:21If you disagreed
248. 9:23with the one political party, Communist
249. 9:25Party, you were dead. They do not know
250. 9:27what communism is. Let them see.
251. 9:30>> Unfortunately, I don't think a lot of
252. 9:32young Americans and Americans in general
253. 9:34know the truth because we've been very
254. 9:36fortunate in this country.
255. 9:38>> That's right.
256. 9:38>> 250 years of freedom and liberty has
257. 9:41granted us the ability not to focus on
258. 9:44that, not to really understand what
259. 9:47communism and socialism is and what it
260. 9:49does to a country. I'm curious um with
261. 9:52with the rise of all these far-left
262. 9:54radicals,
263. 9:55is there any concern among your
264. 9:57colleagues in Europe of history
265. 9:59repeating itself?
266. 10:00>> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
267. 10:01>> What do you hear?
268. 10:03>> Well, what we what we are hearing is
269. 10:05okay, communists will be back.
270. 10:07And we have to be ready. But they are
271. 10:09coming from the countries which never
272. 10:12experienced communism. That's the
273. 10:14problem. Sometimes you have to touch the
274. 10:15bottom
275. 10:16to realize what you just lost.
276. 10:19So, I think it's very important
277. 10:23for everyone in America to understand
278. 10:25and this is
279. 10:27my very personal
280. 10:29do not let lunatics take over.
281. 10:32Please vote. Do it for America. Do it
282. 10:35for the free world. Do it for the
283. 10:37Western civilization. Do it. I know
284. 10:40there are things people are not happy
285. 10:42about. We are not saints. We are not
286. 10:44ideal. We make mistakes.
287. 10:47Look at Poland. How many were shot dead
288. 10:50during communism? Just because they were
289. 10:52they were protesting.
290. 10:54And this is what socialism leads you to,
291. 10:57leads you to the radical radical left
292. 10:59leads you to the communism, communism
293. 11:01leads you to the dictatorship and death.
294. 11:04Suffering, hunger, and death.
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